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#83 - Andrew Kauffman of 'Andy's Mobile Dyno' & Freedom Motorsportz · After-Hours with Faction! Motorsports

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What's up guys? Welcome back to another episode
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of Faction After Hours podcast. On today's episode we have Andy
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from Andy's mobile Dinos, and you guys have also possibly seen
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him at Freedom Motorsports because he's been tuning there
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for, I don't really know how long, but I'd say at least five
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years. So he's, you know, he's been
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tuning a lot of cars at Freedom Motorsports and now Andy is
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doing his own mobile Dino service.
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So basically what that means is he can travel to you and perform
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your Dino tune wherever you are. For example, he did a bunch of
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tunes for us down at English Town, basically right at the
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track, so trackside tuning and he want, he wants to come over
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here and do tuning at our shop, but I said we'll probably get
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evicted. So he can't really do that here.
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It's it's definitely very loud, but it's awesome that he's able
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to do this now and travel. So I'm sure he would be willing
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to travel out of state as well. Just contact him on Instagram
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and maybe you can set something up with him.
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We had a great conversation and I hope you guys enjoy.
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There's a lot of information in this one, so you know, get your
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I have to that that has to happen.
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Malcolm tried to just start that podcast with no.
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Intro with no intro because this one is a pre recorded episode.
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I know a lot of people think that it's live sometimes when
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it's not, but welcome everybody to the Faction After Hours
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podcast. Tonight we're here to bring you
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another guest. We have Andy from Andy's mobile,
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Dino. That's a commercial right there,
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but actually Andy is the tuner that I feel like you and Frankie
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have a long relationship is. This true?
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I don't know if it's long, but we have a pretty A.
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Couple years. Yeah, a few years.
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You're a tuner. Yeah, he's the one that does all
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the tuning for pretty much any car.
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If we're involved with a car that needs to be tuned, it's
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probably going to Andy, because, yeah, I don't have anyone else
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that we bring the cars to, really, now that I'm thinking
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about it. Unless it's a Subaru, then it
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might go to prime motoring. That's like down the street.
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Oh yeah, that makes sense. Because down the a lot of
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Subaru. Yeah, down the street's a lot
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easier than 2 1/2 hours away. Which is where you're from and.
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My setup's not all-wheel drive, and yeah, I don't tune a lot of
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Subarus. Yeah, true.
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Oh yeah, I forgot. It's not even all-wheel drive.
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Nah, that it's a shop in Westchester that's just a few
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minutes down the road. OK, I'll rent from them if I
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need it, but. Yeah, yeah.
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OK, so you've done Subaru stuff before, but.
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Yeah, that's more or less before I started out, but more so at
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least with the laptop stuff like really getting into flashing
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Evos and and Subarus were the start of that.
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Oh yeah, the microser. I was just about to ask.
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Well, like jokingly off camera, I said.
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I'm going to ask what's the first thing you ever tuned?
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But I guess you answered that yourself just now.
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Yeah, more or less so. I got an Evo 8 in 2006 when I
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was was in college and honestly growing up I didn't have a
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computer at home or anything. I didn't know anything about
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computers. Decided to get into a an
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engineering degree that was very much computer based.
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So. Yeah, it's like I was I'm.
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I'm like trying to piece together here, 'cause I'm like,
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is this guy not use computers to tune today?
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Like, what's about the? What is he about?
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To tell me. In high school I was pretty set
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on being a mechanic, just kind of like cars.
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Just going to go with that. But then yeah, through college,
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doing more with electronics, microprocessors and all that.
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Had a laptop to do all of my schooling and whatnot.
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And my roommate had an O3 Bug Eye WRXSTI turbo and injectors.
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And I had a O3 EVO 8 and a lot of open source ECU stuffs
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available for those EVO Flash, EVO scan, so ECU flash and ROM
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Raider for the Subaru stuff. So we got into flashing and
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tuning the stock he sees in those.
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So that's probably that's really how I got much more into doing
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the laptop stuff before that, Like my first car when I was 16
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was a 90 Eagle Talon TSI, love the WRC watching rally racing
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all the time. Had to have an all-wheel drive.
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We had just talked about DSM stuff.
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Was it? DSM shit is a common common
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conversation in. This.
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OK, so when you're when you're dabbling in this stuff, how old
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are you roughly at this time? You said college, so.
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Yeah, that was 20. 20 OK How are you not afraid to just cause me?
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I'm like, OK, if I fuck around with some stuff, I'm breaking
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it. I'm doing like how How How are
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you? How'd you get a part of it like?
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What? Not to mention, these are brand
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new cars, yeah. Yeah, I couldn't.
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I couldn't afford that. I mean, it was a really good
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deal. I got it cheap because it needed
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a clutch, possibly other stuff. So yeah, I couldn't pass it up.
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Got a load on it, repaired it. Yeah.
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They're probably, what, five years old at this point?
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Yeah, yeah, It was like. You said it was O 6, not to age
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you or anything. I don't know if.
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You want? Oh yeah, that was.
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How old is it? O 636 OK, 37 soon.
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Real soon. Yeah, those are.
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Like brand new cars? Yes, O 5 is my year I graduated
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high school. So no, because I want to give
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the the the listeners are dude, I just found found this out.
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But our listeners age from fucking as young as I don't even
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know how young these kids are. And then to like older people
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who listen to this. So I want to give them a gauge
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that Andy can't just fucking go to YouTube and type in.
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Oh yeah. Oh, and it was way different
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back then too. It was a lot harder to get into
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figuring anything out because it wasn't like, you know, they have
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these nice tools like the tuning school, Horsepower Academy.
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You just go online, watch all these videos that explain
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different types of EC, us different strategies for boost
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control, nitrous control, you name it.
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Anything you want to find out, even specific to the exact
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platform you're working on? Videos out there back then trial
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and error. Figured out.
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Try not to blow the. Car.
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That's exactly what I'm talking about.
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Impossible. How are you dodging that you had
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to have some sort of pictures or like words?
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There was. There's definitely, like,
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there's books that have been out there for a long time, but most
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of it, you know, I started out even before cars was into power
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sports, dirt bikes, 4 Wheelers, whatever.
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Same deal with those. Get one that's blown up for
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cheap. Figure out how to put it back
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together. Yeah and forum though.
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And that was just yeah, for Oh yeah, especially with the EVO
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stuff and the Subaru stuff like Naziak Evo M there's a all the
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information, there's a wealth of of knowledge on there for yeah,
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for tuning an EVO back in O six there was write ups.
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You know DIY instructions. You could follow those and
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pretty much. You brought up.
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Get it right from there. You brought a Porsche?
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Horsepower Academy. Horse horsepower, bro.
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Such a good source of information, but I can't stand
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his accent, man. Are you kidding me?
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Oh my God. You're so fucking me, dude.
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He sounds so cool. Fuck.
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You He's so like proper. But I think it's making that
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like, I'm like, Oh my God, gotta stop.
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You gotta think though, such a cool concept.
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It's a really good, yeah, I well, I paid for something on
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that thing before. I've never.
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I can't even say I have. I definitely have.
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It was something maybe I should. Probably engine assembly one or
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whatever. I was like this guy.
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This guy is a fucking genius. I'm gonna.
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And kind of ironically, before HPA they had a shop St. tune, so
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I mean STM. Oh, STM, which is?
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You know, probably heard of STM New York.
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They did a lot of Vivos too. Yeah, it sounds familiar.
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But they had the fastest CT9A, which is Evo 7 through 9 chassis
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for a while. OK, when that was big, like AMS
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had one of the fastest ones and butcher racing and you know, do
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some racing. I remember those.
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Real big. And yeah, do you?
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Remember that fucking guy? The fucking fat white dude from
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like Connecticut or something that would that would tune and
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he was on he had so many videos on YouTube and he was like Bush
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or power. Bush or power?
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No. You're not talking about Big Al.
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Are you? Definitely, definitely.
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Bush or Power? What the hell is a Bush?
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Or power. I don't know much about that
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guy, but his videos are fucking funny.
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That's all I remember. Yeah, I think.
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He Is he alive? I don't know.
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Bro, I don't know, dude, I don't know.
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Isn't that a crazy question to ask?
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I guess, but like he was older. Yeah, he came and went fast,
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like. Yeah.
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He was. Are we talking about like, his
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lifespan? Well.
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His video, just the, you know, his oh, OK activity and motor
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sports and and stuff. It wasn't a lot of good stuff
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about him on Evo M Like at first he was just blown, came in real
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fast and was over in it. You know, really popular source
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for people in the Northeast. And then, you know, there was
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jokes that started floating around like the Sea of Eights.
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They're talking about the timing tables that people would find in
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their ECU, that he would do just like 8° of timing from this load
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up every RPM, just like he was just throwing shit out.
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There, I don't know. I know, that's what.
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I I told Carl. Me and Frankie just looked at
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each other with the same look of I.
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Told Carl before. Before he came I.
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Was like, he's going to be talking about a lot of shit.
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We're not going to understand how they're.
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Timing tables I'm like. Because me and.
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Andy will have conversations at the track and I'll be like
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talking about some problem and then and then he'll just start
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going off and I'm like, Oh my, I'm look the meme with all the
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numbers in it and I'm like trying to figure out what's
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going on and. I'm like holy.
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Shit, this guy's too smart for me, but.
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I always OK I this is might be off tangent.
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No, it's about tuning. What am I talking about?
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There's a scene in Tokyo Drift. When was the last time you
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watched Fast and Furious Tokyo Drift?
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Oh, probably not that. Long ago?
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Oh, pretty recent. It was on Netflix.
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Do you have Netflix? You've.
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Got to have. It was oh, it's on.
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Netflix. There's this scene in there
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where they're whole, they're tuning the RX8, tuning it, you
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know, and they're like, they're like.
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Oh, he. Wants to know there's a there's
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a hole in your fuel map or some shit like that.
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Does that does that? Does that hold any type of water
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at all? Basically, what does that mean
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and can you explain? It yeah, like what are they
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talking about Does that does that even remotely?
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I mean, you'd have kind of, I guess, if you just like didn't.
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Does that should make you chuckle?
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Like, what are you talking about?
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Some like some stuff like there's only so many conditions
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you're going to actually like reach in the table, like load an
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RPM. You're not going to hit a turbo
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car, you're not going to hit one bar of boost at 1000 RPM.
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Most likely, yeah, hopefully not.
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But you would still extrapolate, you know, roughly where you do
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hit that load. You know it's going to be
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something in this ballpark probably never going to be
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reached, but but you see that a lot with if I'm looking at other
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tunes or difficult, you never know what might be in in an ECS
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where he's been messing around with it.
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And like I imagine when they say like a hole in the field table,
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there's just like a part of the field table that's just not
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really. Filled in.
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Filled in or populated with sensible numbers.
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It would just be mega lean or rich or something and.
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It's that bad. It's not what we're trying to
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avoid. Yeah, generally, yeah.
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You don't want to leave any spots that are going to be so
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far out of whack that it's just going to sputter and and that
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would. Freak me out.
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But you see that a lot and like say someone that's just been
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taking their car to the drag strip and they'll have like an
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area of the map that's kind of, it's like the main timing map,
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but there's just like a hole in it that's just for where they
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stage on. You know, if they foot break it,
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where their converter stall is like let's just pull a bunch of
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timing out to get the boost to build up, get into a higher part
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of the table where it's just like normal numbers again.
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But it's not really the right way to do it.
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And if you're St. driving it and you pass through that part of
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the table, it would you feel like crap?
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Yeah, you lose all the you lose a ton of power and.
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That definitely would cause NILA to drift bad.
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That's yeah, Nila. Yeah.
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What? You don't know the main girl
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character? She was Tokyo.
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She was hot. Had my heart.
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Don't do disrespect her, just call her hot.
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She was pretty hot. She was gorgeous.
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Malcolm, can you confirm her tonight?
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Malcolm Gab. Malcolm Gab.
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He's here. Tokyo Drift?
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7 out of 10. Wow.
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Thank you. Goodbye.
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All right. I mean, it's hard to please
17:17
Malcolm. Though do do most.
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Cause Princess is just so amazing.
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Yeah, just, you know. You know.
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She's probably in here somewhere.
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She's creeping. Moving.
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Forward. Can you make sure to give her to
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let her listen to that part? I love Princess.
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She's. Probably in here.
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It's not recorded. Oh fuck.
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We're not live so she'll hear it.
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Either way, may just just look so bad just now it's.
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Just me. Don't worry.
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It's not you. I know.
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Well I wanted to know do most EC us like populate the map
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themselves or you have to go in there and like Oh my God.
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Yeah, you you can. Start with a base file and a lot
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of stuff. Like say someone has whatever EC
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they put a haltech in their car and it's not something to have a
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base map for. You get any software you can
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download, AM Infinity, tuner, haltech, ESPNSP, whatever ECU
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master. They all have their own library
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of base files, and if you're talking about like the most ECS
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are going to run like speed density, they're going to have a
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VE table. You can just go find a source
18:17
generally for a starting point. But you know if it's speed
18:21
density, you can more or less fill it out with close guesses
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and it's a good starting point. You're going to be like 50 or
18:29
60% at idle, you're going to be like 100% at peak torque.
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We just kind of smooth everything out between there and
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then when it actually gets time to tune it, you know, set it up
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properly. But.
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So there is one company to name in there.
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Why? Power FC.
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Power FC There's that, there's that.
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Pre populated. They come with pre populated but
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they don't come with like different maps.
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It's a nice concept though that I was thinking would be a good
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service to add kind of a a missing service in the industry
18:58
right now. You know, you get a standalone
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ECU and it's you're expected to just read through the 40 page
19:04
instruction and go to the website with the correct file,
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yadda yadda. But it's really nice when you
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get something like a power off seat, plug it in, turn it on and
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it'll start, yeah. Will it?
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I don't know any. Cases, yeah.
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And even if you have larger injectors you just go to the
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injector section. It's just has a general scaling,
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you just add or reduce until. Oh, I could do that.
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And he just complimented Apexi. Or I think I could do that I.
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Think that's what draws people to him?
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Is he just? Plugged it in.
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Pretty plugged usually. Just got to run.
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I'll tell you what draws. What now?
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What about Mega? Game score What is?
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A a buddy of mine runs Megasquirt and he's like, yeah,
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I just went in there. I just fucking typed whatever
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the fuck in, which seems to work pretty good.
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I'm like, are you serious? Like when I I believe him.
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Like he found a map I guess, or something.
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No, he just probably was working on it on himself.
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I don't. I don't.
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Know. So he probably just plugged.
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It in. Yeah, there's nothing.
19:55
So they they sell, plug and play EC US as well.
19:58
I mean, you have to go load the base file, but it'll if you get
20:00
one for a Fox Body Mustang, you load their base.
20:04
Tune for it. We'll probably be pretty close.
20:07
You can do the same thing with the Haltech plugin or any of the
20:11
kits with, you know, patch harnesses.
20:14
Plug them in, put the base file in.
20:15
I'm probably going to be close. Think about Big L Right now I'm
20:18
just. Who is this?
20:19
Person. Push your power I'm.
20:22
I'm going to send you the videos later.
20:23
You're going to have to because I.
20:25
Fucking I forgot what his name was till right now, so.
20:27
I I've messed up. A buddy of mine had an Evo.
20:29
I think I've mentioned him on the podcast before.
20:31
Hopefully he does fucking find this shit.
20:32
But he had an Evo. It was probably the first fast
20:36
car I've ever felt where I was genuinely afraid.
20:40
But it was tuned by somebody, I think.
20:42
I don't know where in New York it was.
20:45
No, it was. His name was like Urkel or
20:47
something like E Spec. Oh.
20:50
Yeah, or something like that. And.
20:52
We would, that is, Yep. That is.
20:54
Yep. I think he's in Florida now or
20:55
something. But yeah, Urkel, yeah.
20:57
That was him. That's a guy that took a bunch
21:00
of. Evils.
21:00
Yeah, No. Feeling that that was it.
21:03
Because a friend of mine had gotten their stuff tuned at that
21:07
shop and like I it came back and it was a lot of like weird
21:09
things about it. But.
21:11
Everyone always blames the tuner, too.
21:13
No, no, it was the tunes. The the car was built there.
21:15
And no matter how close it is to running or not, it just needs a.
21:17
Tune. Yeah, it just needs a tune.
21:19
It could be like multiple cracks in the intake manifold.
21:22
Now the. Tunes we We've called Dandy so
21:24
many times. We're like, yeah, we think it's
21:26
just the tune, yeah. And he'll be like, he'll go in
21:29
and he'll like remote in and like try to look for something.
21:31
He's like, I don't really see anything on here.
21:32
How annoying has that got to be? Like you know the answer most of
21:36
the time is that would that, would that be correct in saying
21:38
that? Well, it depends like if it's
21:41
something you know with a sense or anything that you can, I can
21:44
see on my end if it's if we're talking like trying to remote
21:46
diag, I can tell or I can get an idea of what might be wrong.
21:51
But sometimes it's it's frustrating because I'm like I
21:54
know if I was there I'd I would look for this or that but it's
21:58
yeah there's varying levels of difficulty with doing the remote
22:01
stuff and that's I remote tune a little bit but it's you just
22:06
never know what you're. Going to get from that sounds
22:07
like a pain in the ass. I'm sorry, but it's Is it a pain
22:10
in the ass? Imagine.
22:11
So much it really is down to who's on the other side.
22:15
Like I had a customer that was in, I think he was somewhere in
22:18
Michigan Man Power FC S chassis. And I said.
22:22
Michigan. I wasn't going to remote tune.
22:24
I would have, yeah. I would have said no right off
22:25
the. Bat Who the fuck?
22:26
Is it? Who are you?
22:27
It's like, I don't know about remote tuning a Power FC
22:30
because, you know, I have to get them to wire the wide band into
22:33
their data, log it so I can actually see even that much
22:36
data. But he did that.
22:39
You know, I gave him, sent him like a brief instruction and he
22:42
couple hours later sent me back a log.
22:45
He's like, did I do this right? That looks.
22:47
Yeah, that actually looks correct.
22:49
Figured all right well, at least get a base tune going.
22:51
And from start to finish it was less than an hour and it's
22:55
tuned. It worked.
22:56
I've done a lot it. Was easy.
22:57
I've done that with my car before.
22:58
I sent Dave from Toge factory tune my car in like 2014 because
23:03
I I actually had it. Funny enough, I had it done at
23:05
freedom. But it wasn't you.
23:06
It was someone else. And I must have got it back.
23:10
And I was like, I must have thought there was some weird
23:12
problem with like probably some dumb shit, probably like Idol or
23:15
like street driving shit. And then he's like, I don't even
23:19
know how this conversation got started or what, but all of a
23:22
sudden he's like, yeah, I'll do it.
23:23
I send him the map. I do like a what do you call it?
23:27
Street. Datalog A Yeah.
23:30
Data log on my Power FC. And I was like, damn, this is
23:32
sick. So I had to get like the data
23:34
logic and all that bullshit. That's why I have it and then
23:37
do. I need that.
23:38
Dude, he did. He did two runs.
23:41
Then I drove the car like that for fucking six years.
23:44
Five years, Same tune. I was like, this shit runs
23:46
pretty good. And then the piston melted.
23:49
But I think that was my. Fault Six years, though.
23:52
Yeah, no, it was great. It was cool.
23:54
You know, it's cool that we could do this like, remote shit.
23:57
I think I'm thinking about it too much because I'm over here.
23:59
I'm like, well, you put one of these numbers in wrong, let's
24:03
say. Not that I'm going to do that,
24:05
not that I'm going to do that. I'm going to fully entrust
24:08
everything into Andy now because now I'm hearing this.
24:11
I'm like I'm too stupid. I think to try this on my own.
24:16
There's some things that, like you just don't.
24:19
You could. You could probably learn how to
24:20
do it like when I. Yeah, but why wouldn't I just?
24:22
I'd want it to be. True.
24:23
Yeah. You're not gonna do it yourself.
24:25
Well, yeah. So I would go to somebody like
24:27
Andy. But you could learn to know what
24:28
you're looking at when you're when you have the computer
24:30
plugged in and everything, which I feel like is pretty.
24:32
Would you suggest people? Is it a learnable?
24:35
Are not learnable? Is that even a fucking word?
24:37
Do you think people are able to teach themselves that still
24:40
today like how to tune on the street even with like the newer?
24:44
Or would you say it's easier now with the newer EC US?
24:46
It's a lot easier, yeah. There's so much better
24:49
collecting data and making it viewable.
24:51
And I mean, we need to go back to like chip tuning, NISS stock,
24:55
Nissan EC, US like it's a lot of just rummaging around in the
24:59
dark like or like I'm probably here on this table.
25:04
I don't know. And you know.
25:06
Wait, what do you mean like you don't even know?
25:08
You. Ballpark.
25:10
Know what the depending on. You know this if you're logging
25:14
and you have all of the. Tools.
25:16
Sometimes this stuff wasn't available, you know, years and
25:18
years ago. So like sometimes it just be.
25:22
So. Like the right thing to do and.
25:25
It's just hauling ass at. Trial and error, yeah.
25:28
So when they when they say like ROM tuning and shit like you're
25:31
talking about Evos and STIs, is that like completely different
25:35
than Nissan? So, yeah, a little bit.
25:40
Because you need like a ship or something for a Nissan.
25:42
It's like a lot of OBD 2 stuff, especially you know, Subaru's,
25:45
Evos, BMWs, OBD2 BMWs. You can flash the EPROM through
25:52
the OED 2 port. So when you're talking about
25:55
chip tuning, there's already CU's.
25:58
Let's just say, for example, like an RB20 is an easy one.
26:01
They just have a single like DIP 24 EPROM chip.
26:06
You desolder it, put a socket in, so you make it removable,
26:09
and you actually just so you modify the chip.
26:13
Yeah, so you got to find the file on the chip.
26:15
Convert it so that you can mess with it.
26:18
Yeah, you put a rewritable memory chip in there and and
26:22
then somebody yourself or somebody else out there in the
26:26
world of the Internet has to take the actual binary file
26:31
dumped off of that EPROM and go through it and find the tables.
26:35
Make a definition like a XML file.
26:38
That seems way harder. Addresses all of it so that you
26:41
can open it up in a hex editor and view the tables correctly.
26:45
And even then sometimes like data is not always in the same
26:48
spot, from ECUID to another ECUID, from year to year.
26:53
Some things change. You have to modify it and make
26:56
sure you're editing the right thing 'cause sometimes you might
26:57
just it looks correct in the table you enter something in and
27:01
it just works the whole file. I was going to say car won't
27:05
even run on it. You key on no fuel pump prime,
27:07
it's like, well yeah, that wasn't the right thing to
27:10
change. Dude.
27:11
And then, like you, you probably mailed it out and then you got
27:13
it back, and then you 'cause that's what they used to.
27:15
Do too. Yeah, they would do mailing
27:17
chips back and forth, dude. That shit's crazy.
27:20
I don't, Yeah. Some people still ask for that.
27:22
I'm. Like I know people veer away now
27:25
from like stuff like that, like remember Rs entropy.
27:30
Yeah, he still he still does that, Yeah.
27:32
Yeah, I know you. Just send him your mods and then
27:34
you send it out and then he literally chipped.
27:37
He's literally just basically doing what you just said.
27:39
Just. But he's doing the all in one,
27:41
like he just sends it back. It's ready to go, I think,
27:43
right? Yeah, I think a lot of them will
27:44
be like, this is with Azee 32 math and his MO 555 injectors or
27:50
whatever. And it's just like he's done
27:52
enough of them. He's got a catalog.
27:53
Yeah, he's like, yeah, that's so, you know, you know he's
27:55
probably tuned several a a bunch of those in person.
27:58
We knows it works no matter how. Many times I hear about that
28:01
shit like working and stuff. I always think to myself.
28:03
The Horror Story. But isn't isn't every every car
28:06
still a little different? Some are making different
28:08
compressions. Some.
28:10
Yeah. What if you have?
28:11
I mean, God forbid you have cams in there.
28:12
You don't even know you have them.
28:13
I mean that could be another problem too.
28:14
Dude, I don't know, man. Stuff like that, that changes
28:17
actual VE, the engine that is going to have more of an effect.
28:21
But you know. The one the engine 20. 8 versus
28:25
another like a 28860 Rs versus like a 2871.
28:31
Probably in the same turbine. Probably like the same turbine
28:34
housing. You're not messing with the back
28:36
pressure. The engine sees that much.
28:37
It's not going to be vastly different.
28:40
It's so. Weird like.
28:41
But then, But then of course you get a car on a dyno and you
28:44
start running it and you're making adjustments.
28:46
That's the other thing. So there's always, you could
28:49
tinker forever. There's always little bits of
28:51
stuff you can clean up, and that's something you just get
28:55
used to over time. You just know where, like that's
28:58
enough. That's the that's fine enough.
29:00
So no matter what, like if you got a male in tune, it's not
29:03
gonna. Be never gonna be 100% OEM, but
29:07
I feel like you just want it to run good enough for you to drift
29:10
as long as you can. Yeah, but you want it to be safe
29:13
too. Well, yeah, That that goes with
29:16
what I just said. Like you can't be on something
29:19
dangerous forever. Yeah.
29:21
Yeah, and that's really the trade off too is like the harder
29:24
you lean into it, you're always trading off longevity for
29:27
reliability. You know if you take an engine
29:29
and add 50% horsepower and the OEM designed it to make it, you
29:34
know, through the warranty period as reliably as possible
29:37
without too much you know, over engineering and cost.
29:41
But you know that same to that same token, like every stock ECU
29:45
has the same file on it. They're not custom.
29:47
Tuned or unique from? One another.
29:48
So you know it's all about how far you trend away from that?
29:53
That was a kind of cool point. Yeah, literally.
29:55
It's not like the stock ECU is different for each fucking car.
29:59
Yeah. Newer ECU's are really good at
30:01
just they just figure everything out real time anyway.
30:04
Yeah, that's what I was thinking, but older ones.
30:07
Older ones, they were just like that chip that we were just
30:09
talking about taking out of an old Nissan ECU.
30:11
They're all basically the same. Same tables, same numbers are in
30:14
those. I will say that I've ridden in a
30:16
car with an Rs enthalpy where it works good as hell.
30:21
D walk in 240SX the blue one. Nick dude, that thing hauls ass.
30:27
There's a video of me geeking in that and it's like the old setup
30:30
that I said to him. I was like you know, this setup
30:32
is like that setup that everybody says stay away from
30:36
this. Why?
30:37
What? What?
30:37
Just cause of the R it's old everything.
30:39
It's like a disco potato looking turbo and like the the, the I
30:44
seen, the the ECU I'm like is this on like that old type of
30:50
thing and like this power steering stuff is all like so
30:52
it. Really makes like, what, 300?
30:53
Horsepower. It's fast as shit.
30:54
Could be a million in there, I think.
30:57
Yeah. What's up, Victoria?
30:58
I hope you hear this, but that's.
31:01
The other you brought up the point there, that stuff's
31:02
getting a lot older. Like, there's one thing to chip
31:05
to in these cars, you know? Like, to me, they don't seem
31:07
like they're that much older than they are, you know?
31:10
Yeah, but 20 years ago that might have been a good option,
31:13
but now that's some that's old hardware.
31:17
I don't know how. Houses are worn out.
31:19
Those are, you know, components in that ECU are probably not
31:22
working the way they're supposed to be.
31:23
What if it's just broken in just the right amount?
31:26
You know what I mean? Like where where something is
31:29
just letting something else go by and it's making it 1000%
31:33
better. I never really thought about the
31:35
ECU is being worn, but. Yeah, I mean there's there's
31:38
components, they have everything has you know a life cycle.
31:41
It has even like relays, they'll have a a switch limit, like a
31:45
million or something really high value.
31:49
But you can reach it like sometimes, you just have to
31:54
replace old hardware. What do you think is going to
31:57
happen with like? I don't know, like because in
32:00
the future, you know, future, you know this scary shit.
32:06
Like, do you think tuning is going to be a way of do you
32:08
think eventually ECU's are just going to fucking figure this
32:11
shit out? I mean they kind of do already,
32:13
but I he's saying if you if you put like performance.
32:15
Modifications. I'm saying like somebody gets
32:19
they make something newer than a link or newer than a standalone.
32:22
But you're saying like if I buy a car and I have a standalone on
32:25
it or something and then I put like a bigger turbo on it, the
32:27
ECU will? Just figure it out, know what to
32:29
do. Yeah, yeah, I guess that is a
32:30
valid question. If that's possible, absolutely I
32:34
think so, like. Not to run you out of your job
32:36
or anything that. 'D be great if.
32:39
That'd be awesome if it just works that well and.
32:42
He goes on a vacation for like, do you have like, are you are
32:46
you guys busy as hell? Like how often?
32:48
He's got a full time job too, right?
32:49
Yeah, the tuning's a part time thing for me.
32:51
I just do that on weekends. I wanted to ask you what you do
32:54
full time. Or for a company that we do
32:58
automated industrial equipment. So OK, basically just automated
33:02
forklifts, no drivers. That's some fucking.
33:05
And we're over here talking about automated tuning.
33:07
That's some. Terminators.
33:08
Synchronicity. I'm a little scared of
33:11
automated. Machines.
33:12
It's pretty. It's been around for a long time
33:14
so. Oh yeah.
33:16
Yeah, and. It.
33:17
Just does one thing, you know? It's people.
33:20
Yeah. It's not.
33:20
Yeah. It's just like a real big AI
33:22
element, right? Now.
33:23
But maybe they will. That's what they'll use.
33:25
For the tuning. For taking over the world.
33:28
Well, there's actually Dodgey CU's have a neural network.
33:31
They're. I mean, you could say they're
33:33
AI. What was that?
33:35
Wait, can you do you have any more information on this?
33:38
Yeah, like I said, back to the thing.
33:40
What if you throw a turbo on it? HP Tuners has a nice neural
33:44
network training tool and you can go in and adjust how the
33:48
neural network works and train it for conditions that you're
33:51
expecting and it will pre train the AI well.
33:55
You're saying neural network you're talking about, yeah.
33:57
The brain, yeah. That's what an artificial neural
34:00
network that's that's AI. You're so freaking smart.
34:07
That's. Why you like, that's why.
34:08
You're. Yeah, them, them automatic robot
34:10
stuff. And then Andy's like, yeah.
34:13
So. You said Dodge does that.
34:15
That's the, yeah, that's the strategy they have I.
34:17
Feel like those Hellcats should probably not have that kind of
34:19
technology. I fucking love that shit, man.
34:22
Yeah, but I don't know. But it's all a matter of like
34:25
there's a preset number of conditions it's going to look at
34:29
for scenarios, and it's trained to do a certain thing.
34:33
Yeah, when a certain combination of events happen.
34:35
And it's not a really like advanced AI or anything, yeah.
34:39
Crazy like, yeah, now that. I think that's.
34:40
What they say and then. Somebody in somebody's going to
34:42
be listening to this and they're going to, they're going to
34:44
probably be like, they've been doing this for years, you
34:47
fucking idiot. And I'm going to, what the hell
34:49
do I know? Like what the?
34:51
Even like Ford, kind of real time Nissan, the new ECU's, they
34:55
kind of real time figure out the amount of ignition advance they
34:58
should have. I saw a comment the other day
35:01
where 'cause they were arguing, that clip of us talking about
35:04
power FCS with PJ. Yeah, I didn't even know.
35:06
That there was an argument, somebody's comment, I I wish I
35:09
remembered the name, but it said stop making 1998 engine run like
35:16
2023 engine or something like that and that should suck.
35:20
With me it was really good, whatever it was.
35:22
That should suck with me because if if it ran, if let's say that
35:25
one J, I'm going to use the one J as an example.
35:27
It's my favorite thing. But let's say A1J ran amazing in
35:30
1999 on the power FC. What is preventing it from
35:34
running just as well now? To me on the power, to me the
35:37
only thing people argue about Andy could chime in, but the
35:40
only thing people really argue about is the fail safe.
35:42
So I feel like that is the most important thing about modern EC
35:44
US compared to like a power of C.
35:46
That's definitely a huge factor. Yeah.
35:49
Yeah. It can compensate for a number
35:52
of you can add sensors and strategies that compensate for
35:56
more conditions than the power of C ever knows about, and they
35:59
can add different protection measures, engine protection that
36:03
intervenes when any number of different things or, you know,
36:08
out of spec. Or this is how I this is how I
36:10
compare it. When people have this argument
36:11
with me, I'm like, all right, so me with the power of C in my car
36:15
is like a 1941 like Mustang fighter pilot versus like where
36:22
I versus 1,000,000 gauges on the fucking thing.
36:24
And I got to make sure they're all working versus like, you
36:26
know, a new F16 that's not even new.
36:29
What's an F22? You just want to do.
36:32
You just want to be so it's just a computer.
36:34
And they're just like everything's fine.
36:36
Well, I have AI have an. Opinion I don't need.
36:38
To I don't need to know anything, I don't think.
36:39
Gauges. No one looks at cages.
36:41
You don't. Need I look at gauges when shit
36:43
is already too late? It's like I oh, I guess it's
36:47
fucked. I don't know, man.
36:49
That's all the gauge is ever going to do for you.
36:50
You're going to like, oh, something broke.
36:52
Oh, it was that. I don't know, man.
36:53
I look at my gauge, it's already.
36:54
I do. I look at gauges.
36:56
I look at them right before I right before I'm about to hit,
36:58
going to turn one and then right after the last turn.
37:00
Dude, I look at the gauges. If I had a gauge, I don't
37:04
remember the last time I did. But when I'm about to get sent
37:07
off, like, I look at it once and then maybe if something goes
37:12
wrong, like I feel like a yeah, I'll like go like like look over
37:17
like that. But maybe that's it.
37:18
That's all you need. That's what I'm saying.
37:20
That's why I feel like I didn't need it.
37:23
I'm used to doing that. Yeah, I mean.
37:25
Can you? This is maybe off topic now, but
37:28
to both of you, Can you guys ride in a car without looking at
37:32
a single piece of information aside from the speed?
37:37
You mean like getting in the? Car like looking never look,
37:39
never look down no, but on. On track.
37:41
Or no, no, no, just in general, just in general.
37:44
Say in my Z like. Like going on the street, going
37:46
to the store. I'll look at the temp gauge on
37:48
the grid. It doesn't really matter where
37:50
it's at. I'll be like, OK, it's too hot,
37:53
gonna drive it again. And you know, what I really look
37:55
for is the steam to come out of the.
37:58
Yeah. You're looking for visible.
38:00
Failure blew the pressure cap. You know, crap it can.
38:02
Now it's. But I mean like.
38:04
I mean like your everyday driving.
38:06
Because I've noticed this are you ever get in a car with
38:08
somebody who's knows nothing about?
38:10
Cars. Probably a car person.
38:11
Thing I know. I know nothing about cars at
38:13
all. Sorry, Chris is hitting
38:15
something outside. I think he's beating up Jesus.
38:18
No, Jesus is not here. Jesus is.
38:20
Jesus is. Out sick today we got his
38:22
replacement, Lewis. Lewis is.
38:25
Going to look at them, they're all working.
38:26
Oh my God, Eddie's filming them too.
38:28
Look at that. Shit.
38:28
Oh my God, they're working. They're working on Chris's
38:30
engine. Holy.
38:32
Crap. God bless.
38:35
What the hell were we? Talking to I definitely checked
38:37
gauges in my truck. Yeah.
38:39
But but everyday. People pressure, it's not
38:41
overheating. Cool.
38:42
They don't know what these gauges do.
38:44
Yeah. That.
38:45
Blows my mind. And the newer cars that come out
38:48
have less and less gauges. They're no, but there's Don't
38:51
worry about it. There's a bunch in there.
38:52
You just gotta like click through and there's like
38:55
information on everything. I mean dummy gauges, but.
38:58
I remember my mom. This is like 7 years ago.
39:00
My mom got a Subaru Impreza. I was like, oh, it's the new
39:03
one. It must be pretty nice.
39:04
I was like, where's the water temp gauge?
39:06
They just got rid of it. It's a light, it just says blue.
39:09
Yeah, blue when it's cold. And then it goes.
39:11
Away when it's I was like, dude. A lot of cars don't have
39:15
dipsticks you don't measure. Yeah.
39:17
That one, the mechanical means of measuring the oil, It just
39:19
has that, that one weird. A light will come on if it's too
39:21
low. It's because they don't want
39:22
you. To know when it's too they.
39:23
Just want it to blow up and you bring it in for warranty get.
39:25
To the dealer? Yeah, get your maintenance.
39:27
Yeah. My roommate Tyler has.
39:29
You've seen Tyler's car. He has a newer.
39:31
My roommate has a newer Caiman. One day there's a crazy error
39:35
message. I believe it said coolant level
39:39
low red big turn off or. Something like that.
39:44
He also has an SW20MR2, so he's like cooling level, no.
39:51
So then he he's like still calm about it.
39:53
He's like, yeah, he'll get like just slightly below gives you
39:56
that message so that you could go to the dealer and fucking
39:58
have him do a service on it and then it's over.
40:00
That's what Eddie's car just did outside with the fucking the
40:03
Volkswagen his His cooling level was low and it like.
40:06
Like you better fucking you better fuck it now.
40:09
Get the hell out of the car. Right now it's.
40:12
Over for you. Yeah.
40:14
You guys dude, kiss. This car.
40:15
Goodbye, I. Love gauges, man.
40:17
The more gauges the better. Like the old Japanese, like.
40:20
I was just about. These One Cars and Style guys
40:22
love that. I was all like. 40 gauges?
40:24
Yeah, supposed. To be edgy, bro dude, he just
40:27
want that. Was like what I like did.
40:29
You hear yourself earlier. What it's.
40:31
It's like I'm 1941. That's what it is though.
40:35
Airline pilot. That's what it is and.
40:37
Everyone else around me is like. Some nerd.
40:40
New. Yeah, yeah.
40:42
That's how I feel. That's you.
40:43
There's some. There's some cool nostalgia to
40:45
that, especially like analog gauge, yes.
40:46
You know. Yeah, feels more mechanical.
40:48
This fucking gritty boost. Gauge right here.
40:51
You know how long it took me to find this thing on Yahoo
40:54
Auctions? I'll find that for you right
40:55
now. So that's a Alibaba.
40:57
That's a gritty gauge, but it's a it's really a deafy.
41:00
It's just a gritty face. They did like a a collaboration
41:03
or something at some point. So those are all the ones I have
41:06
and this was like the last one I needed but I finally found it.
41:10
Do you know what I liked? I do like that.
41:12
But if if we're going, oh, mechanical, you know, on old
41:17
planes when they had the old label maker that like it like
41:20
almost punches it and stamps it, Dymo used to make them oh, where
41:24
you feel. Like, I know what you're talking
41:25
about, yeah. I bought 1 so I could fucking
41:29
make the little labels for like the oil pressure.
41:31
One's going to say drunk. That's some edgy shit.
41:35
Come on, dude, You want to be Tom Cruise?
41:37
Come in. Got that shit?
41:40
He's got a label maker 100% our cars look.
41:42
Cooler with all those gauges, you know, no linky CUS.
41:45
I just don't. No, they're good.
41:48
Though I don't like when when they are places where they don't
41:51
belong. You know what I mean?
41:53
Like like where? Like, I don't know.
41:56
Like, it just asks that there's a good way to make those gauges
42:00
look. Yeah, yeah.
42:01
But there's also a bad way to make those gauges look.
42:03
And you also. Got to make sure you can
42:04
actually see them. That's why I like those newer
42:06
ones. You could have like a whatever
42:08
you call that Dash info screen and that is those eight gauges.
42:15
In. One little 4 by 4 screen.
42:17
Dude, I feel like. Power of C was ahead of its time
42:19
with that, at least back there. With the commander.
42:22
Back then, because you could. See all those, all that
42:24
information like now modern ECU's, they do have that, but
42:28
you gotta pay like extra for it or something like that.
42:30
But yeah, that was a nice yes. First thing they added, Yeah,
42:34
for something. So.
42:35
Cold edit the anything you want with that that you can do like
42:38
anything you can do with the FC Commander software or the log at
42:42
FC Edit like do you you can get to all that.
42:45
Through the Yeah, you ever seen people like, do a whole map on
42:48
that thing? Yeah, I can't.
42:50
Can you actually though 'cause now that Andys?
42:52
Here tuned a whole. Thing that you have done.
42:54
Someones done it. Yeah, that would.
42:55
Be horrible. You can.
42:57
Though yes. Randy has said to me, yeah, you
42:59
can build a whole tune on there. But now that you're here, can
43:02
you? If you wanted to, I guess, yeah.
43:05
That's fucking terrifying. You go into each cell and you
43:08
can change the. Number at once at a time and you
43:10
can only see like the ones directly around them, so you
43:13
have to. I'm just never going to touch
43:16
it. I'd be so scared to touch it.
43:18
And then like, something will change and I'm like, Oh my God,
43:20
what did I just. Do I?
43:21
I would. I would mess with mine back then
43:23
because I was like, oh, idol, like only idol problems.
43:26
I would not fuck with anything like on throttle because I was
43:28
like, I'm not. I don't know where that's going
43:30
to be, but I would like try to mess with it a little bit and
43:33
like dude, it's just so much to learn.
43:36
What do you read in the manual? I was on forums probably, yeah.
43:40
And if you go on forums, you'll see the crazy motherfuckers that
43:43
are like, yeah, I did my whole tune through the handheld.
43:45
I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
43:47
What's a log it data Log it. So that's like an aftermarket
43:51
Australian company, I think it is or New Zealand?
43:54
Australian or New Zealand? Yeah, they're all.
43:56
From down there somewhere. They basically made the Apexi
43:59
software, but they made their own version of it so that you
44:02
can. Record it.
44:03
So you can basically hook a laptop up and edit.
44:06
Do I need that? That's what I would recommend if
44:10
you were going to get software, but you don't actually need it.
44:12
You just need the. Well, actually, if you go to a
44:14
tuner, he's going to have everything to plug.
44:16
In like you, Andy, you, yeah. Yeah.
44:18
So you'd be. Fine.
44:18
Perfect. All right.
44:20
Yeah. I just had it so that I 'cause I
44:23
originally the one I had was like quote UN quote hardwired
44:26
into my car. Like I put it behind my glove
44:27
box and just had a cable running out.
44:29
That way I could plug in and then either data log or check
44:33
something if I had to, or change some settings here and there,
44:35
like the the water temp adjustment and all that shit.
44:39
Like when it gets hot, that's the only fail safe I have and
44:42
stuff. Yeah, so stuff like that.
44:44
But then everyone always needs it, so I got to rip it out of my
44:47
fucking car. Do you have any like?
44:48
Weird. What's the weirdest thing you've
44:51
ever tuned like in like you're like, this is kind of different
44:54
or do you just always is. What is it always just race
44:57
cars? Mostly race cars.
45:03
I'd definitely like to stick to more like standalone EC US and
45:06
stay away from like. You know, like a Honda.
45:09
Newer cars. Everyone comes in and just wants
45:12
you to turn off all their emissions codes, and that's.
45:14
That's getting. Sketchier and sketch.
45:16
And I'm like, I don't do that. No.
45:18
Yeah, someone comes. Oh, this other shop wouldn't
45:20
turn my P4420 off for my Hatters.
45:24
That no one would have cats, you know?
45:26
And it's like, now you can. Is that getting harder and
45:28
harder to do with the new EC US? It's getting restricted more.
45:33
Yeah 'cause I know. I think Cobb doesn't let you do
45:35
that anymore or something. Like that?
45:37
No, they they don't. They they got, they kind of got.
45:40
Super. Like, yeah, yeah, they did.
45:42
They showed up at their facility and that's why they don't sell
45:45
any more catalyst downpipes or anything like that.
45:47
Yeah. Because even that off road use
45:49
only doesn't really doesn't. Really fly anymore?
45:53
It's it sucked for us, 'cause we had a customer come in like less
45:57
than a year ago and I was like, oh.
45:59
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, You just get the
46:00
downpipe and the stage two tune and all this, put it on and go
46:05
plug in the access port. It's like, oh, there's no stage
46:06
two. I'm like, what do you mean
46:07
there's no stage two? How do you how are you supposed
46:09
to? I got your downpipe with the cat
46:12
and they're just like, yeah, we just don't make it.
46:14
So I had to get a dyno tuned. Yeah, I'm like, shit, that kind
46:17
of sucks. Yeah, they're just reducing
46:20
their liability. That's what I'm that's what I'm
46:22
saying. That's what I'm afraid of.
46:23
For the future is like that tunability that like freedom
46:27
that I guess we have the newer cars.
46:30
I feel like it doesn't offer that.
46:33
Not nearly as much. It's way more complicated like
46:37
certain newer cars. I mean if that's got to be
46:39
pretty much the only thing you spend all your time on or you'll
46:42
never get good at it. It's just it's too much to try
46:46
and just it's again, I think a lot of people think you plug in
46:49
and it's the same. Oh, fuel table ignition table.
46:51
But it is. Not, no.
46:53
What does it look like now? It's like circles.
46:55
Stocky. CU just like the rectangle or.
46:57
Just like the like you don't have those tables at all in
47:01
newer like it's the same the big three like Stalanis, Dodge, Ford
47:06
and GM. They don't have those tables
47:10
like it. They have like virtual tables.
47:15
It'll just real time calculate what needs to happen based on
47:18
the angle of the flapper and the intake manifold or the angle of
47:21
the variable Cam, the load, the Barrow.
47:24
Like, you know, 20 different sensors that it's picking
47:28
exactly what it needs to do in that scenario.
47:31
It's going off of a completely different set of data.
47:34
Now which? Is not like a 3D table and it's
47:36
like whoa 10 dimensions. See.
47:38
I didn't know that. Oh, so there's just more
47:40
variables to the to its programming I guess.
47:43
Yeah, like even like a a coyote has like the first years of that
47:47
all the way back to like what, 2012 or 13?
47:50
I don't know. I don't too many of those of
47:52
like 27 ignition tables based and they're ballparks for
47:56
various different conditions and it just kind of interpolates
47:59
between them for whatever it needs.
48:01
Or like let's say you have a 370Z out here, you could open
48:04
that up like three 50s. They have a burn time.
48:07
They don't even have like an ignition advance.
48:09
It's not even number of degrees of ignition advance, it's just
48:12
some number that quantifies to an amount of time that it takes
48:16
for the gas and fuel to to burn. So how the fuck do you tune
48:22
that? You don't start from a known
48:24
point and it just kind of like a lot of things like up revel
48:27
convert it to an actual ignition table.
48:30
Ecutech does the same type of thing.
48:31
But even like a smarter you see like what's in the the 370's,
48:35
you could go in and just put the wrong numbers in that table.
48:39
And if you log in and watch the second the knock sensors pick
48:43
anything up, I mean not even second, we're talking 200
48:46
milliseconds of the log. You'll see it just go back to a
48:49
different, like a lower number. That's correct.
48:51
It's. Like it's compensate or
48:54
compensating like thinking for itself.
48:56
Yeah, I think you could. It's probably safe to say you
48:58
could go in and put a way advanced ignition table into
49:02
370, do a run and I don't. I don't know if you could blow
49:06
it up like it would just it would say no, that's I mean.
49:09
That's not right. Stop, stop, stop, Pull all the
49:11
timing out and run what it thinks it should.
49:14
I mean that is. That is cool though, because it
49:16
means the engines should be better.
49:20
Should definitely should make. It more reliable theory, yeah.
49:23
And the same goes like it'll if you have an excessively low
49:26
timing table, it will slowly learn up.
49:31
You could in theory flash a tune on a car that makes less power
49:36
Dino back-to-back. You know, lose 20 horsepower, go
49:38
drive around and beat on it for a full full tank of gas or
49:42
something. Put it back on the Dynamo,
49:43
probably be back to where it was power wise.
49:45
Before crazy Wow. I don't ever think about that
49:51
kind of thing like the way that you just thought about that.
49:53
I'm like, this might be broken. Try another time like.
49:59
You did mention that earlier too.
50:00
I think about like putting the wrong number in somewhere, but
50:02
just in general like going kind of way back to like learning and
50:07
being careful to not break anything.
50:09
I think starting off you know I was way more gun shy and thought
50:13
the the smallest wrong turn and going to nuke this engine.
50:17
But the reality is engines put up with a lot.
50:22
I mean it's. It's not good.
50:25
He's telling me he's looking at me like, go ahead, man, I'm just
50:30
kidding. There's a margin of error there
50:32
for sure. Yeah.
50:33
It's just. You don't want to do that to it,
50:36
you know, Ideally, the less, the less abuse you put in on that
50:41
engine setting it up, the better.
50:42
You know you don't want to because like being there,
50:44
blindly guessing, and like you're still adding wear.
50:47
Like, I'm that kid. Tank the whole thing Like one
50:50
bad pull most likely. I mean, you could, but.
50:53
Probably not. Maybe I'm not a kid now, but I
50:54
I'm that kid who's like, what's it going to take for me to St.
50:58
Drive this to the tune like so I could just get there, You know
51:01
what I mean? You know how many times?
51:02
I'm sure you probably run into that A bunch of times.
51:04
Dude, you got Jay-Z. You probably just plug that
51:05
thing in and start it. You'll be all right.
51:07
Probably. That's how I feel with Jay ZS
51:09
lately. They run on.
51:11
They are pretty remarkable on what they'll just be fine with,
51:14
dude. We put the Jay-Z in Miyagi's
51:16
car. We were like, all right, let's
51:19
let's make some. Let's put some time ahead for
51:21
some. All the problems we're going to
51:22
have and we go to start, I can't just call Andy, be like, yeah,
51:24
we're going to go to the tune, start it up, fucking runs
51:28
totally fine. On the Power FC.
51:30
Yeah, immediately. I'm like, what?
51:31
And then we drove it. I remember we drove it down the
51:33
street and I was like, I don't even know if we need a tune, but
51:36
I guess we got to get a tune like that's.
51:38
How we tune it at first. No, we were just like this car
51:41
runs totally fine, but you do that with a 240 with an Sr.,
51:45
we'd be lucky if it idles. What about the gauges?
51:47
They were reading all the right data, yeah.
51:48
It was weird, yeah. Yeah, that's giving me hope.
51:51
Because I hope one day when I put that, put that in there that
51:54
that same thing happens to. Me and then you bring it to Andy
51:57
and he tells you he made 300 something horsepower and.
51:58
You're like whoa, sick sick. That's all dude.
52:01
I. Was just telling him outside.
52:03
I was like, I've never had anything over.
52:05
Yeah, anything. Neither did Miyagi.
52:07
Dude, I'm fucking ready dude. Yeah.
52:10
I'm I I'm going to be at the Burger King drive through.
52:12
Just talking and now he does mobile tuning.
52:15
So like we did a. Yeah, I want to ask about that.
52:17
We we had, we tuned wags this car at the track and yeah, yeah,
52:22
that was pretty cool. I'd like to do more of that.
52:25
Seems a lot of people come from this area.
52:26
So yeah, like find a central, a more central location.
52:30
Is that still OK down there or you think they're giving them
52:32
problems with the? Noise, I think it's OK.
52:34
I haven't talked to to Chris recently about it, but.
52:36
I don't. I don't think it's a problem.
52:38
Yeah, once the weather gets better, probably.
52:40
E Town will probably be the spot for tuning now.
52:43
What do you? What?
52:44
Where is that like, a common thing?
52:45
I've seen them at like shows where they're like, yeah, $20 a
52:48
dyno run or whatever. That is so cheap.
52:50
You know what I mean? I don't know.
52:52
But you know, just to get like the power or like they'll like
52:55
run it on. The get the reading, yeah.
52:56
I did a so that was the E Town weekend, was the one weekend I
53:00
did of going somewhere and tuning on the road or remote or
53:06
mobile whatever, and I did one car show and I did one car meet
53:11
at another local shop just doing runs like that.
53:13
That's what you're you. So you're using it not just for
53:16
tuning, or you're literally using it for what I mentioned.
53:19
Yeah, I'd like to just kind of open up another revenue stream.
53:21
Even though, like I've been pretty as busy as I can get on
53:24
weekends throughout the summer tuning.
53:26
But I have a friend that does a lot of Rd. racing and he brought
53:30
up how they have the hardest time getting a diner there.
53:32
Because all of the all the road racing guys they need, you know,
53:36
they're all their classes are restricted by power to wait.
53:38
So they need to they weigh their cars and Dino to pass compliance
53:43
for, yeah, for the race. We should do that for the car
53:46
track. I wish they would, honestly.
53:48
But. No, we're not doing, no.
53:50
One ever does that for drifting. They're like, oh, fuck it,
53:52
whatever, Yeah, your tire size is right.
53:54
It's OK you're in the. Car.
53:56
It's like what? It's so subjective though, you
53:58
know what I mean? Like it's.
53:59
Not if you have a power fucking like oh, you cannot be over 350
54:03
horsepower like. I mean that that scales at FD.
54:06
You come off the track, you have to you get pulled randomly.
54:10
They do go over the scales. But weight and tire, right?
54:13
With FD, yeah, they they check a few things, which is good to
54:16
make sure, like you're not, yeah, cheating.
54:19
I think the weight to tire ratio thing is the best, basically the
54:25
best thing you could do other than the horsepower thing.
54:26
I feel like that is the best way to make sure everything's fair,
54:31
because if you know, if you can't have a certain tire size,
54:33
you could have a Miata but with 1000 horsepower.
54:36
But you need to have a certain tire size because your car
54:38
doesn't weigh that much, yeah. And if you're ever bored, check
54:40
out some of the the regulations on different NASA groups because
54:43
there's chassis specific stuff. There's all there's it gets very
54:46
nitty gritty. It's all kinds of little stuff.
54:48
But then in that nitty gritty, there's like little It's crazy
54:54
what some people will come up with, like to take maximize just
54:59
how much you can get out of that fucking little car within a set
55:03
of regulation. We'll take a hit in one place
55:05
because it's going to help their specific setup in another way.
55:08
So pick and choose what kind of things they're going to take a
55:12
weight hit for, ballast the car a little differently or add
55:14
weight. And, you know, pick and choose
55:16
which things that they're. You know, maybe they'll run a
55:19
different type of tire, like a Toyo instead of a Hoosier,
55:21
because they can run a little bit more horsepower and this
55:23
track is more long straights where they're going to benefit
55:27
more from having the extra power than hurt from a little less
55:31
grip in the turns or whatever. Damn, I love saying who's you,
55:35
dude? It's such a cool tire name.
55:37
Like, yeah, you you. Andy, how did how did you get so
55:42
fucking smart? How did this happen like?
55:45
Well, I think it's just, you know, if you spend enough time
55:48
doing a certain thing like, you know, for talking in my
55:50
wheelhouse, like people always say that about tuning knowledge
55:53
or something like, well, I've been doing it for.
55:55
Yeah. A couple decades, yeah.
55:57
You kind of surround yourself. It'd be.
55:58
Bad if I didn't sound like I knew what I was talking about.
56:01
That would be scary. Yeah.
56:02
Do you? Drift too, like are you in that
56:05
space, are you? Is your space tuning and that's
56:08
what you love. I before I where I work now.
56:11
Before I started that job I had a couple a few different cars
56:15
and I was at the track a few times but 2012 I stopped
56:20
drifting going to the track. Then 2020 decided I'm going to
56:25
start back up again, so I got a 350Z and it's been a lot of fun.
56:29
The thing's a tank, so yeah, and if you need seat time, lowest
56:33
dollar per lap, just get a 350Z. Yeah, I kind of agree with that.
56:37
I drove one like once for real around Englishtown and I was
56:41
like, this shit's fucking good to go and it's got not much done
56:44
to it. Does like a full lap was in his
56:47
car. I was there.
56:48
You could. Cut the lock stops, you know,
56:51
use the put an extension on the factory handbrake, maybe some
56:54
project new shoes. For yeah, that's what they eat
56:56
brake shoes and got them in stock.
57:00
Yeah, that's. Plug plug plug plug plug plug.
57:03
I got the drift one. Remember did you at Grange?
57:07
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Mine was a very early one.
57:10
They. Didn't let you go in 3rd gear
57:12
though. I don't care, it's still 8 like.
57:16
Yeah, the rest of the track, yeah.
57:17
Like really easy. That is not my car.
57:20
The only thing I do have a gripe with a 350Z and it's because I
57:25
got like, I got like claustrophobic.
57:29
I get the window wouldn't go down all the way and so and it
57:32
was this big of a window that the tire smoke like wasn't
57:36
leaving quick enough. So I started to like, freak out
57:40
and like, I couldn't see and I was like.
57:41
Oh my God. I when I'm in AZI, feel like I
57:43
am inside of something. Well, you know what I mean?
57:46
Like very, very, like, yeah, like the doors here, the
57:50
window's here. I'm like, I can't see.
57:52
Like, I just dude, the doors are way too big.
57:54
I feel like inside of there, Frankie.
57:56
Like. This I don't.
57:59
If you sit in like a a any Camaro Gen. 4.
58:02
Up. Oh, don't.
58:03
Even. And then you get back into this.
58:04
You're like, oh, I can see everything.
58:05
Oh wait, it's a. Normal car is.
58:07
That like the Transformers Gen. Like where it's Gen. 5.
58:10
Yeah, but Gen. Fours are, they have this, yeah.
58:14
The, the the windshield, rear front and rear windshields are
58:17
like, I don't know what kind of angle that is.
58:19
They're just almost flat. It feels like you're literally
58:22
in a tank looking through, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
58:25
The Z feels like that a little bit, but I don't know.
58:27
I have my seat as low as I can get it.
58:29
I I don't know. I can barely see stuff, but I
58:31
just. Yeah, I don't know what.
58:33
Driving by sound. It is the windshield too.
58:35
Driving. Completely.
58:37
I'm just just. Driving by smell.
58:40
Actually, I prefer that. Way I do spend like half of my
58:43
time off of the track too, so you know, driving through the
58:46
dirt and ruts. Oh, I thought you.
58:48
Meant like 'cause for me I I I'm.
58:49
Not just all over the infield, mow the mow the grass a little
58:52
bit I. Know, sometimes now I find
58:54
myself like, not on the track, but not 'cause I'm spinning off,
58:57
but mainly 'cause I'm either like watching or like hanging
59:00
out, or just like enjoying it as a whole, like that the whole
59:04
drift event has to offer. You.
59:07
Know what I mean? Like that.
59:08
That's that's fun. God, I fucking miss the warmth,
59:12
dude. I miss summer activities, dude.
59:14
I'm over this. Do we all just move to Florida?
59:17
No. It's the only.
59:18
Place that's warm, apparently. Texas, maybe?
59:20
We have some friends in the Discord who are from Tennessee
59:23
and the time the the well what what time was it?
59:25
Like 10:00 at night. I'm like what time, what's the
59:28
what's the temperature over there?
59:29
He's like, oh it's like 10°. I'm like, isn't it supposed to
59:32
be hot? No.
59:33
Yeah 'cause Texas right now is freezing cold.
59:36
And I thought that. Place was supposed to be hot
59:37
too. Yeah, but I checked Florida and
59:39
it's hot in Florida, so it's global.
59:40
Warming man, it might be OK, it is.
59:42
Warm. Global warming.
59:43
That's what it is. Yeah, but I thought global
59:45
warming was supposed to make it warmer.
59:47
Let's say they that's what it. Was it's called global warming?
59:50
That was the original idea, but no.
59:52
No, it's. Global cold, Yeah, they changed
59:54
it to climate change. Just shifts around.
59:55
That's crazy, bro. They're just trying to drive
59:58
clothing sales up. I swear.
59:59
To God. No.
1:00:01
Well, if you think about it bro, like the weather app controls so
1:00:05
much of us right now. I opened the weather.
1:00:08
Malcolm thinks the government controls the weather.
1:00:09
Was it you, Malcolm, or was it someone else?
1:00:11
We talked about this. Yeah, I never said that, but I
1:00:13
do believe it. Why?
1:00:16
The cloud seeding. Yeah, like all that weird shit.
1:00:19
Yeah, out there. Cloud Seed.
1:00:20
I don't really believe that. Literally.
1:00:22
But maybe it's. Real.
1:00:23
I don't know. No, they.
1:00:24
Can do that to some degree, yeah.
1:00:26
Yeah. But I don't know if.
1:00:27
But do they do it? I don't.
1:00:30
To promote rainfall in place. Certain areas and stuff, yeah, I
1:00:33
don't think that's. I don't know.
1:00:35
There's got to be something they.
1:00:36
Can do on a scale to. Change the climate on the Earth.
1:00:40
I don't know what the benefit is of that.
1:00:42
Yeah, I don't know. That's the thing I always doubt
1:00:44
with some of those conspiracy theories.
1:00:45
I'm like, ah, it's usually, I don't see the cost benefit.
1:00:49
Yeah. You know.
1:00:50
Yeah, exactly. It's to drive clothing sales up
1:00:52
or something like winter clothes and like trucks and like salt.
1:00:56
They need something to drive those truck sales up right now
1:00:58
because no one wants to buy those trucks. $90,000 for for a
1:01:03
truck is crazy. Any.
1:01:05
Trucks, dude, like new trucks are fucking insane. 2023 Sequoia
1:01:09
was 89 grand for that Top Model 1.
1:01:12
It's crazy. I'm like what?
1:01:13
That's the Top Model, Top Model of a Ford F-150 or F-250 is
1:01:17
probably like 120 grand by this point.
1:01:19
Yeah, it was a couple years ago. You could get the O350 or 450
1:01:23
platinum or whatever maxed out over six figures, yeah.
1:01:28
It's crazy. Because like the XLXLT whatever
1:01:30
with the vinyl floors, the absolutely no options.
1:01:32
They're pretty. They're still less than half.
1:01:34
Yeah, yeah, they are less than half, but they're.
1:01:37
Still, like, 50 crazy. What are we packing in there
1:01:39
all? Kinds.
1:01:41
Of a Bose stereo. Nice stuff, nice stuff.
1:01:44
Seats. Vented seats.
1:01:45
Those are great. Vented seats are my younger
1:01:49
brother's like like benchmark for luxury.
1:01:52
He's like my balls are cool. Yeah.
1:01:55
That's a good. Way.
1:01:56
What's cooler than what? What's, like, more luxurious
1:01:58
than that? Like Tony's, he's got a 2015 at
1:02:01
Freedom and we went to right after he got it.
1:02:05
We towed his 48 foot enclosed 2 cars in it down to TX 2K in
1:02:11
Houston and on the way back drove straight through all the
1:02:15
way home, one shot just stopping for fuel.
1:02:18
And I think it was the the smart cruise, the the hill descent.
1:02:24
You know, you just set the speed, turn the air on the
1:02:27
climb, you know, seats perfect. You're not sweating in the seat,
1:02:30
you just drive for 26 hours straight.
1:02:34
Those those things have like that.
1:02:35
I don't think I could do that in mine.
1:02:37
No. Big center console too, so
1:02:39
you're not even touching elbows with your with your copilot
1:02:42
like. You could doze off for a few
1:02:44
minutes, it's probably fine, it'll.
1:02:45
That's. Crazy.
1:02:47
I mean, actually, yeah. Well, maybe not its intention,
1:02:50
but like actually might be OK. So I look.
1:02:53
I look for new trucks every day, and I never bought one.
1:02:54
This is for the last seven years and I always, I always make sure
1:02:58
I'm looking for the ones with the lane depart option, 'cause
1:03:00
I'm like, whatever vibrates the seat or something.
1:03:03
I was like I need that. That could be.
1:03:04
A lifesaver You're dozing or something?
1:03:06
Yeah, that would have helped me a lot.
1:03:08
It she works nights. I was like kind of hype when she
1:03:11
got something like that cause hers is a she has a CRV and the
1:03:13
wheel like or it'll go obviously like, yeah.
1:03:17
But like it, it will. Once I heard it vibrated the
1:03:19
seat, I was like, I need that 'cause sometimes on the way back
1:03:21
from final bout and I'll just be, you know, a little little
1:03:25
snooze. Or the whole?
1:03:26
Cabin is awake and then except for the driver, we're asking him
1:03:30
like, yo, like, do you need somebody else to drive?
1:03:33
Like we're all we're. All.
1:03:34
Shake me a little. Oh, OK, and I'm back on.
1:03:37
The road I think what you want isn't like a little wheel
1:03:39
vibration. You need the one where it's
1:03:41
like, it's like, oh, veering out of the lane.
1:03:43
The chair is fully going to just like.
1:03:45
Yeah, that would be sick. Oh, that would be sick.
1:03:47
Like. That's what you need.
1:03:49
I know that's what you want too. Like you don't want the little
1:03:51
vibration like now Max Max. Yeah.
1:03:54
No, that would be good. During any of the newer cars,
1:03:57
actually detect when you're tired.
1:03:58
Like little coffee. No little coffee model display.
1:04:01
What? How does it?
1:04:02
Know. Like pull over?
1:04:04
All over. Get a Take a break, drink a
1:04:06
coffee. For me, if I saw you.
1:04:08
Is that everyone? To do.
1:04:10
Yeah. Oh yeah.
1:04:10
Like, I think BMW has a little. I think Mercedes.
1:04:13
A coffee Mer with some. Maybe it's it's it's German
1:04:15
luxury car. Yeah, the first time I saw it,
1:04:17
I'm I'm pretty sure. Coffee, Bitch, I don't drink
1:04:19
coffee. How about that?
1:04:20
Yeah. But I want to.
1:04:22
Tell me what the fuck to do. Yeah, yeah, fuck.
1:04:25
That's crazy, I know. Halden, a friend of another
1:04:28
friend of mine fucking told me about this thing in Chevy called
1:04:31
like Hyper Cruise or something like that.
1:04:34
Hyperspace. No, it's a Towing Cruise
1:04:38
control. Is that what you were
1:04:39
referencing before Smart Cruise? Something like that.
1:04:43
I don't know if it's that fancy. But but you mean like towing
1:04:45
with cruise? Control cruise, Yeah, And like
1:04:47
the tax, if you're getting close to a car, you know, you think
1:04:49
you 70, but there's enough cars around.
1:04:51
Everyone seems to be driving 69 and 71 miles an hour.
1:04:53
So just like just have to incrementally speed up and
1:04:56
stuff. It's just it does like an auto
1:04:58
cruise where it'll adjust when you're catching up to somebody.
1:05:00
But when you're loaded down like, I feel like I drive my
1:05:03
truck a little differently. When I'm trailing something
1:05:06
like, I'm not like. Whoop.
1:05:08
Like, you know what I mean? Like I'm not like kickdown
1:05:10
method this thing so. It knows you have a trailer on.
1:05:13
It that's what I'm. Asking.
1:05:14
Oh, it would also, yeah, like for the hill descent stuff, it
1:05:16
has an exhaust brake and so if you have that turned on, you're
1:05:21
going downhill and you're gaining speed.
1:05:22
It actually it turns. It's got a Jake.
1:05:24
Brake, exhaust, Brake on. It'll down the shake you're.
1:05:27
Not a Jake Jake Brake, but. Yeah, not.
1:05:29
Quite not. It doesn't actually change the
1:05:31
exhaust valve timing. Ah shit it doesn't.
1:05:32
Just an exhaust brake. Just fucking like kind of like
1:05:36
it. But it's.
1:05:36
Not as cool, it's not. That loud.
1:05:38
That. 'D be good enough for me, dude.
1:05:40
Could you explain to me and the listeners how a real launch
1:05:44
control or rather two step system works?
1:05:46
Because I know a lot of people think it's just like some simple
1:05:50
thing you can do in the tune. Like all the street takeover
1:05:52
kids, they want the two step thing, but they don't realize.
1:05:55
That is that still people like. That stuff like generally from
1:06:00
like the most basic standpoint, I guess like any of the anti
1:06:02
like stuff you're looking basically at reducing, reducing
1:06:07
timing, maybe sending some extra fuel through the exhaust.
1:06:11
You're just looking at generating heat, turbo heat
1:06:14
drives a turbo. Yeah, the more you retard your
1:06:17
timing, you're taking heat out of the what would normally be
1:06:21
going into the, you know, the chamber and the water cooling of
1:06:24
the engine. You're sending it out the
1:06:25
exhaust instead so more heat spins the turbo up.
1:06:29
You can even see that, say starting a base tune, you have
1:06:33
it just deliberately like 5 or 6°.
1:06:35
Low on timing, you might overshoot boost by several PSI.
1:06:40
Add the timing in, make more power at lower boost.
1:06:43
The boost will, you know the amount of boost it'll make on
1:06:47
the same wastegate setting can vary just by how much time you
1:06:50
have in the engine. If it's too low or not.
1:06:51
OK. So it's that kind of concept
1:06:53
where and there's more to it with the timing of the ignition
1:06:57
cut and all that, but? And when they talk about this
1:07:00
stuff, I always think about, I always think about rally racing
1:07:04
one like the real anti anti lag where it's like you let off the
1:07:07
gas and but don't. Aren't those cars set up way
1:07:09
different, where it's like pumping air into the system or
1:07:12
something? Yeah, that's a secondary air
1:07:14
injection and like so same type of concept except actually
1:07:19
introducing fresh air into the exhaust manifold.
1:07:21
So when you send that extra fuel out of the exhaust with the
1:07:25
really high EG TS, you get actual combustion events
1:07:29
happening in the exhaust manifold.
1:07:31
Which would then make it like not lag.
1:07:32
Is that why? Basically, yeah.
1:07:34
You never knew that. Never seen people make those.
1:07:38
They'll make they'll put like a fuel stack on a turbo maybe seat
1:07:41
welded onto like a a heater exhaust pipe or something on a
1:07:46
drum of some sort. What the?
1:07:48
We'll take an old air tank. I think I've put a tube out of
1:07:51
that into the turbine. I was thinking of a turbo and
1:07:53
then the outlet of the turbo goes back into the tank.
1:07:55
Then you just burn coal or wood or whatever in it and you can
1:07:58
actually, if you do it right, you can get the turbo to run
1:08:01
like a jet engine, feeding itself from just a fire from a
1:08:04
fuel to a fuel stack. What the fuck?
1:08:07
You know, take that concept, It's a little jet engine, more
1:08:11
or less. So if you fuel it, it doesn't
1:08:13
need anything else other than hot air spinning the turbine,
1:08:18
and it's going to recycle that. It's compressed air.
1:08:21
Feed the turbine with even higher air density like you
1:08:26
could run like with especially the secondary air injection.
1:08:30
I mean, theoretically if you had an ignition source and a fuel
1:08:33
source that was feeding in the exhaust, I mean you wouldn't be.
1:08:35
You don't have to have a running engine to make the turbo.
1:08:37
Yeah, yeah. You're just spinning the turbo
1:08:39
kind of. And that's just so when you're
1:08:41
off the throttle, the turbo is spinning at like full power.
1:08:45
Yeah, so you could be off throttle and there's different
1:08:48
ways, you know the secondary air injection that's more or less
1:08:51
like a bypass instead of a blow off valve.
1:08:53
It just reverts any pressurized air from the compressor side
1:08:57
into the exhaust manifold. You're basically just using the
1:08:59
engine to just throw hot air and fuel into the turbo and try to
1:09:06
generate that combustion events in the in the exhaust.
1:09:08
Manifold. Because you'll you'll come back
1:09:11
on throttle then, and it's the turbo's like the shaft speed's
1:09:14
going to be right up there, whatever it needs to be.
1:09:16
For so you can do that minus the secondary air system.
1:09:20
You can kind of make the engine do that.
1:09:22
Are you kind of like making it have a load on itself, but.
1:09:24
You could do it with drive by wire too, or a throttle kicker.
1:09:29
Even if it's drive by cable some of the easier cheaper.
1:09:32
They don't work quite as well as an actual, you know, air
1:09:35
injection system, but if you just kick the throttle open
1:09:40
while the engines on D cell. Yeah.
1:09:43
You can't have it have the normal ignition and fuel would
1:09:46
be the same as stepping on the throttle.
1:09:47
But yeah, you do like a cyclic ignition cut, like a cyclic
1:09:51
idle, like a lot of those cars have.
1:09:53
'Cause my friend was talking about, he wanted to get his, he
1:09:55
wanted to get this on a Subaru. And I was like, so it's kind of
1:09:58
like it's kind of like brake boosting but not having to brake
1:10:01
boost maybe? Like, yo, that's what I was
1:10:03
thinking too. Degree.
1:10:04
Yeah, yeah. And when you said when you're
1:10:06
off throttle it's like stabbing the gas.
1:10:08
I'm I'm all I'm thinking is of when you put the clutch in
1:10:11
you're pulling the handbrake and you're going boom boom boom boom
1:10:13
boom boom boom boom boom boom Oh yeah you're keeping the dump and
1:10:17
that's spinning this one I'm. Thinking you're putting load on
1:10:20
the engine maybe? Or no?
1:10:22
I don't know. So not it's so much like some of
1:10:24
them do, like they'll just cut a certain cylinder out of the
1:10:27
spark pattern. You just have a cyclic ignition
1:10:30
cut. That's just cutting a different
1:10:32
cylinder each time through the engine cycle of something like
1:10:34
that, one or two or three whatever to you get the engine
1:10:38
to D cell. So you're not getting like a
1:10:40
runaway condition where you're all that.
1:10:43
It's effectively like having the throttle open still, but
1:10:45
limiting the engine by some other factor than the throttle.
1:10:49
I mean into that degree you can also like if you go in and say
1:10:53
floor a car and just reduce the timing advance, you will
1:10:57
theoretically you'll get to a point where it just won't Rev
1:10:59
any higher because you have the ignition so low.
1:11:01
Either a stab the CAS a tooth or two.
1:11:05
You know you're saying you get to the point where you can floor
1:11:07
the car and it just Revs super slow because it has no timing in
1:11:11
it. Then you'll have the exhaust
1:11:13
manifold glowing red instantly. How would you activate?
1:11:16
Yeah, I've been there before. How would you activate something
1:11:19
like that while you're driving the car?
1:11:21
Like to? They'll usually work with the
1:11:26
detect D cell like you. Could do this shit
1:11:29
automatically. So like every EFI system, pretty
1:11:33
much every you know when you lift off the throttle and your
1:11:35
engine braking, it turns the fuel injectors off.
1:11:37
It just knows at this much vacuum and this low of throttle
1:11:41
in this RPM window, like above the idle area, turn the
1:11:44
injectors off because it's just engine braking anyway.
1:11:46
So you could detect it in that same kind of method, or clutch
1:11:51
or clutch switch or a combination, a combination of
1:11:54
things. A lot of those cars, if you're
1:11:56
thinking like WRC cars, they don't have a clutch switch
1:11:58
really. I mean, they do, but you're not
1:12:00
clutching when you're down shifting.
1:12:01
It's shifting up very much. Yeah, usually it'll have
1:12:04
sequentials. Dude, I wish I could drive a
1:12:06
rally. Car there is that whole era like
1:12:08
a tuning phenomenon, Cuz now that's like 80s, OK?
1:12:14
I'm thinking like the ones when I was.
1:12:15
Growing Up group. B like, yeah, that's that's what
1:12:17
I'm thinking. I don't know when you say rally
1:12:19
and anti lag. I don't think of anything else
1:12:22
except for Group B and I'm hearing and like.
1:12:25
Yeah, I just think of. Like like again.
1:12:27
Like again and again. Early 2000s when I was watching
1:12:29
like rally racing, I always think about.
1:12:31
Yeah, it's the same error I think of.
1:12:33
Yeah, but same. Kind of shit, I'm sure.
1:12:37
MacKinnon. Yeah.
1:12:38
And like Colin McCray type Subaru that sound like and it's
1:12:42
always like at a hairpin or something because you hear it
1:12:45
like yeah, they pull a handbrake and then they're off and then
1:12:48
you that's when you hear it or. You hear it when they hit a
1:12:50
jump, little jump. As a kid I didn't know what the
1:12:52
fuck that was. And then I knew it's anti lag.
1:12:55
And now that I know what kind of causes the anti lag, now I'm
1:12:57
like, oh, I kind of get why fire comes out.
1:13:01
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 'Cause it's literally
1:13:02
combusting, yeah. Turbo Smart makes a special
1:13:05
valve for doing secondary ear injection now and even like you
1:13:09
mentioned somebody adding on a Subaru, definitely Evo's, I
1:13:13
think Subarus also they came equipped with that hardware in
1:13:16
Japan. What they have this there's like
1:13:19
an extra vacuum like for an Evo, there's an extra vacuum can
1:13:22
underneath of the manifold and it has a solenoid that controls
1:13:26
it. So and there's some piping that
1:13:30
runs around. You can actually see it on every
1:13:31
Evo. In the US, between runners 1:00
1:13:33
and 2:00 and 3:00 and 4:00, there's there's this weird flat
1:13:35
spots that's actually they're drilled out and have banjo bolts
1:13:39
in them. In.
1:13:40
Japan. For homologation reasons they
1:13:42
have it on OE cars in some. Countries ohk.
1:13:44
OK, so. It's not.
1:13:45
It's not. Sort of like.
1:13:47
But it's but almost. There for on from the factory,
1:13:49
but tape, like those guys doing the open source ECU stuff on the
1:13:53
Evos back in the day on Evo M, they found those tables.
1:13:57
They actually have like an air tank that's there too.
1:14:00
Yeah, so it fuck yeah off bottle.
1:14:02
It'll dump stored compressed air from that tank.
1:14:05
So. City exhaust manifold.
1:14:06
I want to hear Evo now. I know that dude.
1:14:08
I like Evos, but The thing is, is I can't Yo shout out Johnny
1:14:11
Evo fanatic. Yeah, he probably.
1:14:13
Knows about this. Shit, he definitely knows about
1:14:15
this. We have a friend named Johnny.
1:14:16
He's just this like, spirit that just floats around.
1:14:19
Dude, He. Lives in the Mountains Bear
1:14:20
Mountain area. Whoa.
1:14:22
Whoa. Well, that's not where he is.
1:14:24
Yeah, he's never there. Yeah, there's another one, but
1:14:27
dude, he's there every. I'll go hiking on the weekend
1:14:29
and I'll just, I'll, I'll go up and I'll just see Johnny asleep
1:14:32
in his car. Waiting like.
1:14:34
What are you doing up here, Cars?
1:14:35
Cooling. Down always doing some runs.
1:14:37
Like dude, that's all he does. So, but it's pretty sick.
1:14:41
He knows everything about Evos. That's our Evo guru.
1:14:43
I wish he was here to hear like all May.
1:14:46
Hopefully hear it. Yeah, yeah, that's crazy, man.
1:14:49
Yeah, anti lag is sick, but all the kids want now is just.
1:14:53
They just wanted to make a. Loud.
1:14:54
They just want the noise, yeah. Yeah, I don't pop bangs, flame
1:14:57
tunes. I don't ever do any of those.
1:14:59
Yeah. Thank.
1:15:00
God. Yeah, what most.
1:15:01
Of the times the emails we get. Like who the flame tune on my 20
1:15:05
flame? Bro, yeah.
1:15:07
Don't reply. Block.
1:15:08
I mean, dude, we get phone calls almost every week.
1:15:12
I would say I just realized I we haven't even delved into
1:15:14
probably what the kind of shit you run into on a daily basis
1:15:17
now. Yeah, they're.
1:15:17
Always looking for those tunes. I just feel like that's the
1:15:20
thing, verbal. Tune.
1:15:21
Verbal tune. That's.
1:15:22
What they call. It verbal.
1:15:23
Tune verbal tunes. Why does that?
1:15:25
Even that even that just sounds fucking horrible.
1:15:28
Sounds broken. Why?
1:15:29
Why do you even wanna I'll? Tell you who did it, It's BMW.
1:15:33
That's the. Those are the because B.
1:15:35
MB MW programmed like after fire in their stock tunes.
1:15:40
Like fucking 10 years ago. Maybe more than 10 years ago
1:15:43
now. But I remember the second you'd
1:15:45
let off the throttle, you'd hear like a little, like a little
1:15:48
little thing. And I've looked into it, and it
1:15:50
was programmed from the factory to do that to, like, add some
1:15:53
exhaust noise, I guess. And I was like, OK, so I'm gonna
1:15:57
blame them because the second you put an exhaust on one of
1:15:59
those cars, you really hear it. I think people just want to
1:16:02
emulate that. Yeah.
1:16:04
Anti legs now, yeah, you know they want to fake the funk.
1:16:07
Yeah. I mean like some car.
1:16:09
Again, add to Frankie's point that came in that my roommate
1:16:12
has was the first car that I heard where it wasn't a BMW and
1:16:19
it does it really aggressively. Really.
1:16:21
Yeah. Like from the factory.
1:16:23
From the factory it has the Porsche exhaust, the it's the
1:16:27
valved exhaust where you could like switch it to loud and quiet
1:16:30
or whatever on loud you you know how far my driveway is from
1:16:35
driveway to corner. If it's accelerating from that
1:16:39
distance to there and you decell, it doesn't so loudly
1:16:43
already. Like it's like so.
1:16:45
They're they're obviously doing it from the factory now.
1:16:47
It sounds a little different though.
1:16:48
I fog with it, yeah. It's cool.
1:16:50
I mean a lot of it's they just tune the D cell areas like turn
1:16:54
the D cell fuel off kind of a lot of times like we were
1:16:56
talking about how fuel injectors are off on D cell.
1:16:59
If you leave them on and just retard the timing a lot in that
1:17:02
area of the map where you're under high vacuum, it'll you'll
1:17:05
do that. It'll bang a lot, really badly.
1:17:08
Is that bad for it technically? I mean it's not yeah it's not
1:17:13
helping anything. Can't really do it with a with
1:17:16
with having a factory catalyst overheated so and that would
1:17:21
also that would. Also.
1:17:24
Yeah. So it's really, you know, I I
1:17:26
like, I always think of it as like you know the EPA really
1:17:29
shut down diesel tuning. I feel like rolling coal was a
1:17:32
big factor and I had a lot of those videos went viral.
1:17:35
People like rolling coal on a group of people dining in, you
1:17:39
know, on. The lawn.
1:17:40
I know exactly where you're going.
1:17:41
You know what I mean? It's nothing.
1:17:44
It's a big red flag that says I'm defeating, you know, factory
1:17:49
emissions equipment. Please catch me.
1:17:51
And the whole point is, you know, get it drawing attention
1:17:53
to yourself. You're drawing attention to the
1:17:55
one thing that we really want to be on egg shells about right
1:17:58
now. Which?
1:17:58
Is I don't even know what the creating emissions update is on
1:18:01
that last time I looked into that was like over a year ago
1:18:03
but I know they were doing some they were in court and all this
1:18:06
for the with the EPA and. Yeah, there's a lot.
1:18:08
If you check SEMA, yeah there's a long.
1:18:12
Ago. They're the ones that were
1:18:13
involved with it, I guess. It was SEMA.
1:18:15
They're trying to fight it, yeah.
1:18:16
So there's a whole. What do you call that?
1:18:20
Collecting petitions petition. Yeah, because they they want to
1:18:24
lock it down to the point, like if the car ever came with a VIN
1:18:26
number, it's a streetcar, can't do anything.
1:18:29
Yeah, it was scary shit. Like kill the industry stuff.
1:18:33
Yeah. No, that's and I.
1:18:35
Don't think driving around backfiring randomly is like
1:18:38
helping, helping anything, no. Not at all.
1:18:40
I don't know anything that's going on in that space, but I do
1:18:43
know enough where I'm like that's why I ask about what do
1:18:46
you think is going to happen in the future.
1:18:48
Because even that right there, I didn't really know a lot about
1:18:50
it and know Sema's involvement in it, I didn't know anything
1:18:53
about that. But I do know it is would kill
1:18:56
industry, kill hobby. It would be just like a part of
1:19:03
our memory, maybe if that was happened, maybe not in our
1:19:06
lifetime, I feel like, maybe not in our lifetime.
1:19:08
Hopefully, or we find a way around it, like we find a way
1:19:10
around most things. But still, I mean this country,
1:19:13
we get all there's a lot of leniency with cars still and I
1:19:17
feel like it's it could possibly, it could go away at
1:19:19
any moment. Yeah, just by, yeah.
1:19:21
If you just look by comparison at some other places, it's yeah,
1:19:25
you do a lot more. I mean, you know, I'm not saying
1:19:27
that I that I had, you know, don't abide by the law or the
1:19:32
maybe that in any of my cars I've ever been inspected.
1:19:35
The things that people get pulled over for in Canada, yeah,
1:19:38
is insane. Too much like of a tire like
1:19:41
that much? Yeah, the cars look looks
1:19:43
lowered. Like Australian Malcolm, Jordos
1:19:46
shout out Jordos self-proclaimed Australian Malcolm.
1:19:50
He gets a ticket for having the tire.
1:19:54
Just that far out in Australia dude.
1:19:56
And it's like. Here, when it's by, they'd be
1:19:58
like, is this stock? And if you like.
1:20:00
It's by measurement like you. It's by fine, like 22
1:20:03
millimeters. You you two $220.00 for you
1:20:05
that's. They'll come and measure your
1:20:07
headlights. Yeah, it's crazy.
1:20:08
If you have coilovers, or you know even if it's vented,
1:20:12
drilled, slotted brake rotors or anything you like, if you change
1:20:15
anything related that could be a safety aspect of the car, you
1:20:19
should, to get it resorted to be legal.
1:20:21
I would have to go through, figure out how to leave that
1:20:23
country. That's all I'd be trying to
1:20:24
figure. Out I think there's I think it's
1:20:26
like here where different states have different yeah rules or
1:20:28
different counties. You know, yeah, so certain.
1:20:30
Areas inside the same state here are different but.
1:20:33
I think right now I'm in that hopefully I can just enjoy this
1:20:36
as much as I can state. Yeah, man.
1:20:38
Yeah, I I think about this shit often because I have a shot.
1:20:41
Let's just get 11J experience, please.
1:20:45
But I'm always just like, hopefully they just grandfather
1:20:47
in old cars. Like I I keep telling myself
1:20:50
that I'm like, maybe they'll just let the old car people do
1:20:53
whatever. They want, they're like it's
1:20:54
going to kill itself. Yeah, maybe.
1:20:56
Yeah, right. Because I feel like they're
1:20:57
going to fucking be here. Old car thing is like cars that
1:21:00
precede the clean air. Act Exactly some. 1972.
1:21:04
Motherfucker. Yeah, technically, if they
1:21:08
really crack down on those laws that exist, they could restrict
1:21:12
anything newer than like 70, oh, 72 or 74.
1:21:15
I don't remember what it is. Well, in the cars we like.
1:21:17
I'm beyond on the street. That's bad.
1:21:19
No, no, no. Hopefully.
1:21:21
OK, here's here's what I'd want to happen if this if this
1:21:24
happened to us right now, you know we would be fucking what
1:21:28
You know. You know in the Harley and the
1:21:30
Davidsons documentary how they got like those street racing
1:21:32
people that are building the cars on the low, low, But you
1:21:35
know, that's us. Oh, great, we would be.
1:21:37
Going to prison? We would be so fucking cool,
1:21:41
man. Like instead of biker gangs, we
1:21:42
just have Japanese, 90s, Japanese sports car gang.
1:21:45
Yeah, but but then like, but then like all the American car
1:21:48
people will be separate, but then they'll be like, shit,
1:21:50
we're fighting for the same. Thing, dude.
1:21:52
They'll let them get away with it somehow.
1:21:53
They'll let the American cars get away.
1:21:55
With, but then the American cars will be like.
1:21:56
Yeah, I think worst case would be like they're just going to
1:21:59
regulate harder with cars that are on the street registered
1:22:02
actually putting in miles every year like you know MPA, if
1:22:06
you're under 5000 miles you're. A mission exempt.
1:22:08
I didn't even know about this. What is?
1:22:10
That you're. A bad, calm.
1:22:11
And he's a calm guy, bro. He's already looking at the pro.
1:22:14
He's like, you know what? It probably might not even that
1:22:16
be that. Bad you didn't.
1:22:18
Break you're like. He's a half glass full guy.
1:22:20
The world is. Over, I said.
1:22:22
At this point in my age, I daily drive a diesel pick up anyway so
1:22:27
the fun car stays on the track. Yeah, we're not like that.
1:22:30
I'm not too worried about streetcar personally.
1:22:33
Yeah, I feel like hopefully I start to think like that too,
1:22:37
cuz it costs me more money to drive my toys on the street.
1:22:41
Nah, that's more. Exposure.
1:22:43
You could get hit by somebody like, that's what.
1:22:47
That's kind of killed it for me. I was in a couple, I had car
1:22:49
accidents as a passenger and I'm like, you know what, we don't
1:22:52
need to go. Fast.
1:22:52
Yeah, that's. I don't really speed on the
1:22:54
road, but if I do I'm. I'm driving my car out on the
1:22:56
street for a completely different reason.
1:22:58
And it's just because I want to bring this thing that I work mad
1:23:02
hard on on the street so everybody could fucking see it
1:23:05
and suck my Dick. I mean, I mean just like take
1:23:08
see it maybe, you know? Just see it.
1:23:10
This is, yeah. I like driving cars on the
1:23:12
street, I don't think. That's I don't know how you can
1:23:14
enjoy your car is on the fucking ground in terms of.
1:23:17
And what? It's not that low anymore.
1:23:20
I don't know. It's really.
1:23:22
High right now it's. High, but like I don't.
1:23:26
Know. I used to enjoy it more, like in
1:23:27
my hometown, kind of the middle of nowhere, lots of farmland.
1:23:30
Yeah. Now it's like I just feel like
1:23:32
when I get pulled over, hassled or something.
1:23:34
I don't. Yeah, I'm scared to like.
1:23:36
I feel like cops have been very lenient ever since COVID
1:23:38
personally, but I also have not been St.
1:23:40
Driving that's changed. A drift car.
1:23:41
Yeah, Frankie. Yeah.
1:23:44
You haven't driven like a modified car on the street in a
1:23:46
minute. I have been doing 90 miles an
1:23:48
hour in the fast lane every every day and no one's pulled me
1:23:51
over yet It's. Weird.
1:23:52
Hey, bring them in. Bring them over, yeah.
1:23:53
No front plate, no inspection, No, no.
1:23:56
Definitely no inspection. Like 3 years, none of my cars
1:23:59
cruising around. Yeah, three years.
1:24:00
No inspection stick. Ever had it?
1:24:02
I don't. I don't think the cops really
1:24:03
give a shit anymore right now. Well, it'll change, but.
1:24:06
Here's here's what I do notice. I I get, I get pulled over.
1:24:11
I don't know about anybody else with my standard practices.
1:24:15
You know, keep your fucking hands.
1:24:17
Yeah, I've never been that kind of person.
1:24:20
But like, I I'm like this. I used to think this mattered,
1:24:23
you know, Like, yeah, You remember?
1:24:25
Like, yeah. I have friends that like they
1:24:26
just take the key out immediately put on the
1:24:28
dashboard, but they're usually doing like 140 miles an hour
1:24:30
when they get pulled over, so. No, I just know, like, keep your
1:24:33
hands right there if I'm gonna move.
1:24:35
Yeah. Hey, I'm out of reach in my
1:24:36
pocket. Is that cool?
1:24:39
Is that OK? But.
1:24:41
And then when he's done telling you, he'll be like, OK, so why
1:24:43
do you have tents? Can I give you a ticket?
1:24:45
But well, like I feel like now if I got caught St. drifting
1:24:47
because now I I I find my brain wandering 'cause I'm like I'm
1:24:51
about to have a one GI want to do criminal activity now I.
1:24:53
Would definitely do that. Yeah.
1:24:55
So then I'm like looking at spots and I'm like, what would I
1:24:58
tell a cop now? Like he's.
1:25:00
Probably not even going to catch you.
1:25:02
He'll never. Catch you?
1:25:02
He would, if he caught me and it was just, it would be just me
1:25:06
and like another person because you need a spotter.
1:25:11
Like what did he get out of here?
1:25:13
He'll be like I saw, yeah, I saw you.
1:25:15
I saw you racing. Yeah, I was testing something
1:25:18
out. I wasn't and.
1:25:20
Then your grand, I saw. You all right?
1:25:21
Well, I wasn't. And then that's it.
1:25:23
And then he just gives you a ticket for no front plate.
1:25:24
America was built on doing stuff like this, buddy.
1:25:27
Well before your time. I wouldn't.
1:25:28
I don't. Know if you want to have that
1:25:29
argument with him right there, but.
1:25:31
I would. No, I wouldn't.
1:25:32
You heard all the stories with Johnny getting pulled over and
1:25:34
everything. I would never argue with a
1:25:35
police officer. You're crazy.
1:25:36
And Johnny just denies everything.
1:25:38
Never. I've been in a I've been pulled
1:25:41
over once. Where the kid we're driving?
1:25:44
It was my first car. Where?
1:25:45
My tuner little car? It was an Integra.
1:25:47
The wheels were already orange. All the stickers on the back.
1:25:49
Yup, be patient. I'm lowered all that key chain.
1:25:52
And you were lowered on springs or?
1:25:53
Something on the front only be real patient.
1:25:58
This is my. Brake.
1:25:59
Yeah, be patient. I'm lowered.
1:26:00
But we're driving and like one of the very first times I ever
1:26:03
got pulled over was because it wasn't even my fault.
1:26:06
Like the passenger that had this huge banner on the front of like
1:26:11
our me and Chris's like car. Group What was it then?
1:26:13
It was called Royal Works. Shut the fuck up with an E Why
1:26:17
has this? Not been known Malcolm boy.
1:26:19
He knows about it. He knows.
1:26:20
He knows about it. You know about.
1:26:21
It wait, Royal works. I never knew about that Royal
1:26:23
works. Where's Chris?
1:26:24
Is Chris still here? He's got to be.
1:26:25
Here. No, he's gone.
1:26:26
He's gone. He left.
1:26:28
What a fuck. He would have known about Royal
1:26:30
Works, man, But Royal Works was like the very first.
1:26:32
Like let's hang out in a parking lot and do nothing and be really
1:26:36
do nothing with our lives for like an hour of a day.
1:26:39
So we did. We did that.
1:26:40
I had a huge banner we're driving past and this cop is
1:26:44
just posted up in the median and the passenger looks at the cop
1:26:47
as we're driving and goes really, really like sitting out
1:26:52
in the median He. Just says.
1:26:53
And the cop just pulls right out and I'm like.
1:26:57
Why the? Fuck did you do that?
1:27:00
That's like when. He got me a ticket.
1:27:01
It was the one of the first tickets I ever got.
1:27:03
For the banner. For the banner, where normally
1:27:06
he probably wouldn't have. Yeah, sometimes I sometimes I
1:27:10
tell people. Like, just fucking be respectful
1:27:12
sometimes, I swear. Yeah, yeah.
1:27:15
It takes like 1% to not be a. It takes no effort to just not.
1:27:21
It's not going to cost you anything to be less of a Dick.
1:27:23
Yeah, You know, I feel like some people forget that nowadays.
1:27:27
I remember we got pulled over and Miyagi was in my passenger
1:27:29
seat. We didn't get pulled over.
1:27:31
The whole thing was fucking ridiculous as fuck.
1:27:34
But you just said you got pulled over.
1:27:35
Which one is it? I'll tell you the story.
1:27:36
I think I already told the story on here.
1:27:38
We're like, we are going to Formula D We had the trailer.
1:27:40
I had to stop at the bank. I must have told this recently,
1:27:42
I think. But we we pull into the bank.
1:27:45
At the bank, there's cops everywhere.
1:27:47
They have a speed. They have not even a speed
1:27:48
thing. They're literally just, they're
1:27:51
literally just pulling people over from their seatbelts and
1:27:53
they have a fucking guy in the in the bushes like looking for
1:27:55
people with no seatbelts. I'm like this is insane sting.
1:27:58
Operation for. Seat belts.
1:28:01
You have a sting operation at 9:00 in the morning for their
1:28:03
own townspeople. I'm like, what the fuck is the
1:28:06
logic here? So I pull.
1:28:08
I'm like, OK, I pull in, I see all these cops.
1:28:10
I'm like, OK, I just block all of them in 'cause I I have a
1:28:15
trailer. I'm like, I'm taking these four
1:28:17
spots right here. Get out, go to the bank, come
1:28:20
back in, start pulling away. One of the cop walks.
1:28:24
Hey, whoa, whoa whoa. I'm like, can I help you?
1:28:27
He's like, yeah, License. I'm like, excuse me, He's like,
1:28:30
oh, you weren't wearing your seat belt when you made that
1:28:32
turn back there. I'm like, when what what are we
1:28:35
doing, dude? The dumbest shit ever.
1:28:39
I'm like, OK here And then right away, Miyagi's like, what the
1:28:43
fuck is the problem? Like immediately.
1:28:45
God. See.
1:28:46
Fuck. Immediately he starts to give
1:28:47
him the cop lip and he's like, actually, you know what?
1:28:49
Give me your shit too. And he gives him his
1:28:51
information. Miyagi gets a ticket for no seat
1:28:53
belt. I get a ticket for.
1:28:55
I don't even know what I think. The problem was that my
1:28:58
passenger, when the cop asked him for his ID, wouldn't give
1:29:01
it. That's another problem, yeah.
1:29:03
Which you know, I mean after a few minutes of argument like he
1:29:06
never gave it to. Him, I was going to say.
1:29:08
Did it? Did he ever give it to him or
1:29:09
no? No, you don't have to, I don't
1:29:10
think. But either way, you're causing a
1:29:12
problem. I was 19.
1:29:13
My face was probably blood red, like just saying like dude, just
1:29:18
fucking give him. Fucking.
1:29:20
License. So anyway, I had to drop the
1:29:23
trailer off the trailer didn't have its registration renewed or
1:29:27
some shit, so I had to leave the trailer there, go to the DMV,
1:29:32
renew my registration, get my truck inspected, come back, pick
1:29:36
that up, and then go get Josh to leave his car from Staten Island
1:29:39
and then go to Formula Drift just because they had a sting
1:29:42
operation at the fucking bank. Yeah, for and for me.
1:29:45
I'll be talking shit to the cop, but yeah, bro.
1:29:50
I haven't been pulled over in a minute.
1:29:52
Knock on fucking wood. I'm not.
1:29:54
To me, they're just pirates. Like when I see that going on.
1:29:56
Yeah, highways, they're just, they're just pirates.
1:29:58
They're just robbing people and that's it.
1:29:59
And it's legal. I'm like, this is fucking crazy.
1:30:03
Don't you think that's crazy? Do you not think that's crazy?
1:30:05
I mean, like to an extent, like sometimes you're.
1:30:07
Stealing money from your own townspeople.
1:30:10
You're not protecting anything. I.
1:30:11
Feel like they're just there to protect everybody from like
1:30:13
scumbags they know. But they're looking at
1:30:15
seatbelts. Here's the.
1:30:16
Here's an example like. Yeah, I mean, victimless,
1:30:20
victimless crime. Yeah.
1:30:21
Like, is it? I don't know.
1:30:24
We'll say we didn't check you for your seat belt.
1:30:26
We wouldn't have known you were driving with an unregistered
1:30:28
trailer, you know? But is it?
1:30:31
Does that? Really.
1:30:32
Yeah, no, that's not how that works at least.
1:30:34
It should. Is that serving the?
1:30:35
General public That's not. That's not how it should work in
1:30:37
this country, at least. Like maybe Canada, but not here.
1:30:41
Like what is that? One of my favorite times to get
1:30:44
pulled over. I mean, even if you're.
1:30:46
Not necessary. Even if you're going to talk
1:30:47
about speeding like speed trap, I don't agree with speed traps
1:30:50
either, but at least they make a little bit more sense.
1:30:52
Like you're you're going a crazy speed.
1:30:55
You know, you're you're endangering people.
1:30:57
This guy's hiding in a Bush with binocular.
1:31:01
Oh, he's got no seat belt. Pull him over.
1:31:02
Like for fucking. If I get in an accident, I'm
1:31:06
going to get hurt. No one else is.
1:31:08
I'm. I'm no seat belt on.
1:31:09
I'm gonna get hurt. Yeah.
1:31:11
Like why do you have to do? To anyone else.
1:31:12
It's so. Weird.
1:31:14
But even speed, they always like, live and die with that.
1:31:15
Like speed is what kills. Yeah, there's there's whole
1:31:18
countries that a lot of their major highways don't have speed
1:31:22
limits. In Germany, you can drive as
1:31:25
fast as you want and any if you're near the city or
1:31:29
something, you know, there's a lot of traffic.
1:31:31
Those areas have speed limits. Yeah, in between.
1:31:34
See the circle with the three you know, Gray hash marks, no
1:31:38
speed limit, and as. Fast as you want and they have
1:31:41
one fucking rule. Move the fuck over.
1:31:44
And everybody moves. Over and everyone moves.
1:31:46
Over people know how to get on and off the highway.
1:31:48
But here in America, no one knows that.
1:31:50
The right lane doing 150. Being careless, not paying
1:31:54
attention and being on your phone, that's as dangerous.
1:31:57
Or more, that's what's. More dangerous?
1:31:58
Yeah, for sure, but. Yeah, over there though, you
1:32:01
know, even if you get caught speeding, it's like €10 per like
1:32:05
10 mph over you. Know something like that?
1:32:08
And if you get caught going 40 over, it'd be like the
1:32:11
equivalent of like less than the service fees and all that BS
1:32:16
they slap on tickets here. What the fuck is that?
1:32:19
A $15 speeding tickets? Like $120.00.
1:32:22
Have you been to Europe? Yeah, I've.
1:32:25
Been all over for my job, so yeah, I'd like I left some.
1:32:28
It's town in central Germany, like Erfurt.
1:32:31
I was driving down to Munich couple hour drive and I was in
1:32:35
AI. Had a Jetta wagon TDI and just
1:32:39
absolutely flat on the throttle for like 2 hours straight dude.
1:32:43
Just like I wish I had like a day long for that easy to be
1:32:46
like. I averaged 98% throttle for two
1:32:50
hours. The car would go 220 kilometers
1:32:53
an hour downhill, just barely breached like 2:30.
1:32:57
Now do they have speed limiters over there like on the engines?
1:33:01
Not no. Most of them can just go fast.
1:33:04
Fast as possible, I'm just trying to think what.
1:33:05
If you have like an M5 or something like it will go 200
1:33:08
what? The.
1:33:09
I'm trying to think of what my foot would feel like, Like I'm
1:33:12
just sitting there like. It's kind of fun.
1:33:15
You see a turn coming like it's a pretty wide turn, but like can
1:33:18
this Jetta on snow tires do it at 130 while?
1:33:21
Yeah, like we're going to find out.
1:33:25
Dude, do you think that like now we're getting deep, But like, do
1:33:28
you think that is like like them not having a like a lot of speed
1:33:34
limits and having cars that don't have limiters and things
1:33:37
like that? Do you think that creates an
1:33:39
environment where people don't really find the need to do
1:33:42
reckless shit versus America, where speed limiters speed
1:33:46
limits, you're going to get pulled over speed traps?
1:33:48
Yeah. So like during that, that
1:33:50
certain jobs we were doing, we were working in conjunction with
1:33:54
another company. And one of the other guys that I
1:33:56
was, you know, traveled all over the different job sites.
1:33:59
He would be their German guy. And he says, you know, most
1:34:02
people don't speed because gas is expensive.
1:34:06
And if you're driving a hundred, 120 miles an hour, you're
1:34:09
getting bad fuel economy. Yeah.
1:34:11
Most people, unless you're, you know, unless you have the money
1:34:13
to buy like a new M5 or a 9/11 like you're not speeding around
1:34:17
because it would cost too much. Yeah, like you're not taking
1:34:20
your Ford Focus to like, fucking or Mondeo, whatever the other.
1:34:23
Point It'd be better to leave 20 minutes earlier and save 20
1:34:27
bucks. So in America it's I'll go to
1:34:28
prison, and in Germany it's the gases too much.
1:34:30
But they're also like way more. They take that, they're very
1:34:34
disciplined. They take that responsibility
1:34:36
driving very serious. You can't drive until you're 21.
1:34:39
You have to do all something like that.
1:34:41
You have to do all kinds of It's not just like, go to the DMV,
1:34:44
run over a couple cones, and the guy's like, oh fuck it, here's
1:34:46
your license, dude. The driving test taught me it's
1:34:49
difficult to. Get your license.
1:34:50
Yeah, and if you lose it, like, you can lose it forever.
1:34:54
But that's the thing that speeding not a big deal if you
1:34:58
don't stop completely at a stop sign where there's like a
1:35:00
pedestrian crossing especially. Straight suspended.
1:35:03
Straight to the. Jam.
1:35:04
Yeah, you're not I for A. While OK.
1:35:07
So I guess it's just different things.
1:35:08
So like, they take that really like driving inside the towns
1:35:12
and cities, like, yeah, don't mess around.
1:35:14
Like, so there's people around you got to actually injure
1:35:16
somebody by being careless. So, America, you can you can tap
1:35:19
someone that stops. I don't.
1:35:20
Know I think it's the the discipline part because you.
1:35:24
Don't see people on the phones on the highway.
1:35:25
Yeah, paying attention. Come up behind somebody, they
1:35:28
move over. You actually spend more time
1:35:30
watching your mirrors for somebody who's flying up behind.
1:35:32
You. I'd be so scared.
1:35:33
Flash the high beams for you to get over people get over.
1:35:36
That's that's so funny. You can just bomb down the left
1:35:38
lane. Flash your high beams or
1:35:39
accountable somebody. They just.
1:35:40
They just move. Dude, I try that on Route 17.
1:35:42
It doesn't work. I'll be behind.
1:35:45
I'll be behind someone for eight hours just going like this.
1:35:47
Yeah, they. Just, I've I've said it.
1:35:49
They only slow down. Yeah.
1:35:50
Then they just. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:35:52
They slow down. That's the best.
1:35:53
Or someone like they have the yield sign.
1:35:55
They're like. Yeah, yeah, they're ready.
1:35:57
Off the road like fucking letting you in here.
1:35:59
Slow down, yeah. Over my dead body at.
1:36:01
The same speed I am. Growing up in this area, I I
1:36:04
learned to just if if I'm merging onto a highway, I look
1:36:08
and if I don't think he'll crash.
1:36:09
If he hits the brake, I just go. He'll figure it out.
1:36:12
If if it's if it looks like a dangerous situation on my end,
1:36:15
like I made a big mistake, that's one thing.
1:36:18
But if it looks like he has enough time to slow down, I'm
1:36:20
going out. Either way, as long as my
1:36:21
blinkers on, he's got to figure that out.
1:36:23
Like, dude, that's all I do now. Like I'll put my blinker on.
1:36:26
I look no ones there in the immediate area.
1:36:30
I'm fucking going. I imagine you're also like doing
1:36:31
your best to get up to Hwy. speed.
1:36:33
You're not like you're not. You're not merging in at 40
1:36:35
miles an hour and then once you're in, you and traffic like
1:36:38
oh should speed. Up.
1:36:39
Oh, I hate that. The rate everyone's driving.
1:36:41
No, you just enter a 20 and just.
1:36:42
Stay at 20 dude in. And just.
1:36:44
Hope for the. Best I like taking exits faster
1:36:47
than the flow of traffic, 'cause then I just it's that's my way
1:36:50
of saying you guys are so fucking slow that this Koiya is
1:36:53
taking this off ramp that says 40 at 60 and you're going 45 on
1:36:59
the highway. Like you'll be behind someone
1:37:01
and we're we're entering the highway and then they like come
1:37:03
to a stop and you're like, no, that's not, that's not how this
1:37:06
works. Right.
1:37:07
Yeah. It's like you just made it
1:37:08
difficult. Yeah, you just made it so.
1:37:10
Difficult if you were going the speed they where it'd be much
1:37:13
easier to just slide in wherever.
1:37:15
They were. I think that has a lot to do
1:37:16
with just like I don't, I don't want to say car people, but like
1:37:19
for some reason people who are like in touch with driving more
1:37:23
a little bit. They just, like, think of things
1:37:25
differently because you'll be with like a normal person and
1:37:27
they're like like panicking when they get on Hwy.
1:37:30
It's like. One of my favorite things I
1:37:33
drive. My work is east from where I
1:37:35
live. So in the morning drive into the
1:37:37
sun and like drive into the sun going down the Turnpike around
1:37:41
the corner. Usually it's the one like right
1:37:42
by 476 of the northeast extension get flash from the
1:37:46
sun. So many people's first
1:37:49
instinctual reaction is stomp the brakes like, oh shit, I'm
1:37:53
blind. Everybody else is too.
1:37:55
What I should do is drastically change my position on the road
1:37:59
and my speed on the road. Hopefully everyone behind me.
1:38:02
Catch them off guard. You know.
1:38:03
While they're blind. Gotcha.
1:38:05
Like, oh, we're safe, guys, That's.
1:38:07
Fucking nuts. That's you know what they won't
1:38:08
expect still going 40 right now the.
1:38:10
Worst I've ever experienced. You know when your windshield is
1:38:13
salty and that happens. Oh, it's total White House.
1:38:16
But I'm not slowing down. I feel like that's I don't have
1:38:19
any HVAC in my in my drift car it didn't come away your.
1:38:22
Daily has a little bit of problems.
1:38:24
It currently doesn't either. Plenty plenty of wipers.
1:38:28
Too much wipers. Too much wipe, yeah, Andy said
1:38:31
on the way. Here is he stopped working and
1:38:33
the wipers won't stop going. The wipers are just on low.
1:38:36
They're stuck like on the low setting.
1:38:38
Yesterday and then today when I got in, no fan, no HVAC.
1:38:41
So, so annoying. What kind?
1:38:42
Of still. Come on.
1:38:43
Board or? Yeah, it's a it's an old 1F-350.
1:38:47
OK, so something you know electrical problems still
1:38:50
happen. You're too calm, dude.
1:38:52
It is. My feet were a little chilly.
1:38:54
On the I was. Going to say it's it's I I want
1:38:56
to get the degrees. Your way home is going to suck.
1:38:58
I want it's 32° it's. Going to be a little colder now.
1:39:01
I might do like a couple checks to see if it's something I can
1:39:05
at least unplug the wiper motor, so that's not annoying me the
1:39:07
whole time. Just pull the.
1:39:09
The It's going to drizzle. It's real dried out for two
1:39:14
hours straight while I'm driving in a 30° cab.
1:39:17
You're gonna fucking need them like some weird reason.
1:39:20
You're gonna need them. That does happen.
1:39:22
And then you're gonna be like. You're gonna pull that one fuse
1:39:25
out, and then you're gonna be driving, and then a fucking
1:39:27
monsoon is gonna come out of nowhere.
1:39:28
What the? Fuck, I have to do that on the
1:39:30
IS, I'll. Just pop the that's what I do.
1:39:33
I'm driving. That's what I do on my on the IS
1:39:35
on the drift car the wipers will work randomly if it starts to
1:39:40
rain automatic. Oh.
1:39:42
The problem is, is if it's like a light rain and it's like one
1:39:46
of those situations where it's like.
1:39:48
On and off automatic wipers. No, Oh.
1:39:51
That's what I'm. Saying it just does it.
1:39:53
I don't know why. Maybe water makes some sort of
1:39:57
contacts of a sort of short happen so.
1:39:59
I I you might have a leak in your windshield.
1:40:01
Maybe, Yeah, that's kind of what.
1:40:03
Screwed up my truck. I just happened to notice,
1:40:06
especially with snow. One of them, you know, holds the
1:40:08
moisture on the cow for a long time.
1:40:10
Get in and like weird electronic stuff.
1:40:13
What happens? I start looking under the dash
1:40:14
and it's wet. Start pushing around the
1:40:16
windshield and I can feel areas where it's not adhered well.
1:40:20
Oh no, I hope not. How?
1:40:21
Did the windshield put in Because it was, I mean, not
1:40:24
right away. I drove until it was like
1:40:25
literally falling out. Yeah, and then I push it out of
1:40:29
place. It's.
1:40:29
Like, oh shit, this might be a little leak.
1:40:32
That negligence might be why I don't have heat right now.
1:40:36
That's that's. It's most mechanics.
1:40:38
What? The way I look at it though, you
1:40:39
know, if you let a problem go long enough, eventually it's
1:40:43
going to be really obvious what's wrong.
1:40:44
And that's what I. Say it's like something.
1:40:46
Inside the engines making noise, well, you know, keep running it
1:40:49
because it's way easier to check like your bearings and
1:40:51
everything when half of them are on the ground.
1:40:53
If you can't see. Like, well, that's the problem.
1:40:55
So my truck has a problem it's having.
1:40:57
It's had a problem for two to three years now.
1:40:59
There's a loud banging noise in the back when I make like a
1:41:02
right turn and get on throttle and I'm like, all right, this
1:41:06
problem seems pretty fucking bad, but it's been two years and
1:41:11
nothing's happened. Can't.
1:41:12
Be that bad. That's what I'm saying.
1:41:14
It keeps working. We always say, like, Malcolm
1:41:17
always says, like I'm going to be getting on a highway, like on
1:41:20
AU turn or something, and then my bed's just going to go one
1:41:22
way and my fucking truck's going to.
1:41:23
Be going the other way, It's. Like one of those things, like
1:41:25
the more you work on cars, the less you want to work on your
1:41:27
own. Car.
1:41:28
Yes, yeah. And but also that theory is
1:41:30
right though. Like if you don't know what it
1:41:32
is and you know you're not going to get stranded because you're a
1:41:34
mechanic or something, you just fucking keep driving it till it
1:41:36
breaks. Eventually it'll make itself
1:41:39
obvious. It'll make it obvious, that's
1:41:40
why. That doesn't.
1:41:41
Work now you don't want to buy fuse boxes on fire and we'll be
1:41:43
like, oh, that's just one of my papers are stuck.
1:41:46
On I knew that really could. Be a Really.
1:41:49
Dangerous idea. Too obvious now.
1:41:51
Yeah, it's. So obvious my car's on fire.
1:41:53
Something shorting and sparking under the hood like I bet
1:41:55
that's. It yeah.
1:41:57
What's that smell? And then flames are just coming
1:41:59
out from under the hood. That's got an extra roll of
1:42:01
electrical tape in there. I'll just enough.
1:42:04
The guests had checked the the the early tuning and and self
1:42:09
taughtness has like weathered you so well.
1:42:12
You just don't care anymore. You're like.
1:42:13
He is, Yeah, He is. Oh.
1:42:14
It's definitely I'm jaded now, just even just from being in
1:42:18
cars and stomping on the throttle like that used to make
1:42:20
me nervous just getting in a car on the dyno.
1:42:23
There's a lot going on and I forget about it until I have
1:42:26
someone else, like, operate a car in the dyno.
1:42:28
They're like, it's so weird, like you're sitting stationary
1:42:30
and there's so much noise and everything going on, dude, they
1:42:32
don't even notice it anymore. That shit is so scary to me.
1:42:35
I think that so that kind of fell over the time that I wasn't
1:42:38
driving on track. Once I was driving on track
1:42:40
again, that very much changed the way I feel like when I'm
1:42:44
actually going out drifting, really don't think about stuff
1:42:48
like that. I have.
1:42:50
Friends that are like, oh, get nervous around like tree turn,
1:42:52
I'm always looking at those barrels out there.
1:42:54
I'm like, there's barrels out there.
1:42:57
You're wide. You're going to hit those
1:42:58
barrels. I'm like, I don't.
1:42:59
I just tell people I black out the moment ago.
1:43:02
I don't. I don't remember.
1:43:04
I can't. You probably couldn't even ask
1:43:06
me. What you're like look?
1:43:07
Like doing a dish. You're like more confident now?
1:43:11
Yeah, I just don't think about There's like, in my mind there
1:43:14
are zero consequences on track. Maybe it's 'cause you didn't
1:43:17
drive the car there too, That's. Incredible.
1:43:20
That helps. That's a big deal.
1:43:21
Like. I'll just wad the thing and be
1:43:23
like, that was fun. Yeah, I guess I'm not drifting
1:43:25
for a little while. Is it just 'cause you you you're
1:43:27
you're you're able to trust it more mechanically 'cause you're
1:43:31
like, I know the limit of this thing?
1:43:34
I don't know even about that because I don't bowl check as
1:43:36
much as I should. Jesus, sometimes.
1:43:38
I'm just like it's probably. Fun.
1:43:39
It's AZ. So.
1:43:41
Or something will even be loose, Like I feel wobble like oh,
1:43:43
there's definitely a control arm coming off but.
1:43:45
You know this is more like Tom Nazaro 2.
1:43:49
More laps left in this. Session I can ride it.
1:43:51
Out. I don't.
1:43:52
I don't think Tom's doing that. Probably he feels something
1:43:54
loose and he's mid. He probably just keeps drifting
1:43:56
that. I've had that only happen knock
1:43:58
on wood one time and it was when we went to mid pond which is was
1:44:02
what like 15-16 hours away from here.
1:44:04
The wheel I guess fell off the IS you know the ball joint.
1:44:07
The whole situation thing, well, it happened to me so like, it
1:44:13
happened like of course, like at the worst time far away from
1:44:16
home. But I could not have been more
1:44:19
unbothered by it, I guess could. Have been even worse if you were
1:44:21
in tandem and he was like and it went.
1:44:23
Yeah. Yeah, but it happened like we
1:44:25
were driving. I did one drift and I'm like,
1:44:27
oh, OK that was pretty good. Did did some of these.
1:44:30
I'm like something felt kind of loose and as soon as I went like
1:44:32
one, see, that's. It it went.
1:44:35
And I'm like, whoa. But how much easier was it to
1:44:38
troubleshoot it? It.
1:44:40
Was it was pretty easy. We still couldn't figure out
1:44:43
what it was. I was like, I thought the coil
1:44:44
over snapped, but then it got worse because the wheel fell off
1:44:50
and I was like, oh that's got to be the problem.
1:44:52
Oh my God. I guess your theory is pretty
1:44:55
good though. What is that like when your
1:44:56
wheel falls off and you like? That's the funniest.
1:44:59
Thing. It was funnier, I guess, for
1:45:01
everyone else. Because, like, I swear to you.
1:45:05
Like. You're looking at your mangled
1:45:06
up Fender over your hood. Like, yeah, no, I was.
1:45:09
I got it all. I got it off track and
1:45:12
everything. Like I I was driving.
1:45:14
I'm. I'm telling my buddy Ethan.
1:45:15
I'm like, yo, something's wrong. I think.
1:45:18
You really drove that shit off the track?
1:45:19
Yeah. And and and and the the ball
1:45:21
joint was just resting on the inside of the FNO one and it was
1:45:26
just and then we slowed down. I saw the wheel or the car was a
1:45:31
little, you know, cock. I guess the TIE rod's still on
1:45:33
there, so. Yeah.
1:45:35
Yeah, it was a little. Bit but the the the problem was
1:45:38
was after we stopped and then tried to go, that's when it just
1:45:43
went boom. Yeah, that's where that picture
1:45:45
is. I'm like, yeah, some some
1:45:47
photographer. Dude, I forgot who took the
1:45:49
picture. He got a good photo.
1:45:50
Of it. He happened to be walking by
1:45:51
like whoa. And I'm like, yo-yo, yo-yo get
1:45:54
this really quick, 'cause? That stage took us Carl Carl
1:45:56
stage. Yeah, because then after that,
1:45:58
all I needed. I just wanted to focus on
1:46:01
getting it. Yeah, where it's got to go.
1:46:04
That reminds me of this was a long time ago.
1:46:06
I used to have RX7. I got it from Rich, had it
1:46:10
before me, and I ended up with his cousin Eric, who fabricates
1:46:12
at freedom. Oh wait, I don't know if you
1:46:14
know Eric, back that freedom. Well, I remember in RX7 drifting
1:46:17
with Rich. Was that the same car or was
1:46:20
that a different? Rich had it before I did.
1:46:22
This was 2011 to 2013. OK, I'm thinking of 2000. 14 was
1:46:26
LS LS1 Black FC, but Eric had it and he was out of club, loose,
1:46:33
just getting closer and closer to the wall until he got too
1:46:36
close. And like the steering was not
1:46:38
right in the car either, like you go a little too far, like
1:46:41
you had no lock stops, you go a little too far, wrap the tie
1:46:44
rods and you're just you're stuck.
1:46:46
Like it's trouble so. It sounds terrifying.
1:46:49
It was not like safe. It was not well set up, we'll
1:46:52
say. And you know, he's getting
1:46:54
closer when something happened, you know, catches the back of
1:46:57
the car, pulls the front end into the wall.
1:47:00
But it's just that, that image of just a wheel with a hub and
1:47:04
coil over. Attached to it.
1:47:06
Just rolling down the bank towards tree turn.
1:47:08
Just the whole left front corner.
1:47:09
Just, oh, I forget which side. You know what?
1:47:11
I mean, yeah. The whole corner suspension and
1:47:13
wheel just cruising. Away there's another IS3.
1:47:15
So funny a a friend of mine from I forget he's he's in New York
1:47:19
somewhere, but his name's Amar. He has an IS300 as well.
1:47:22
There's a He got memed, dude. Like, memed because it was the
1:47:26
whole wheel. Yeah, with the spindle rolling
1:47:30
like so many photos of it got taken, I was like, damn.
1:47:34
Out. Complete in the lap that was.
1:47:35
That happened to OSW with Who drives a Mustang in Pro?
1:47:42
Travis Reader. Are you talking about when all
1:47:44
the wheels came off? Beat em.
1:47:46
I don't know. I will.
1:47:47
No, Somebody lost a beat em in practice at OSW, one of the
1:47:51
years I was down there. He lost a corner.
1:47:56
I don't know. One of the rear wheels came off.
1:47:57
I don't know what broke. It's kind of rough there when
1:47:59
you transition from the bank down the infield and the wheel
1:48:03
finished the lap and as soon as they cross the line everybody
1:48:06
starts cheering and it's just so funny.
1:48:09
Wait, 'cause if it was an Oval track, hold what it like?
1:48:12
Rode the wall for a while. I forget where exactly it came
1:48:16
off if it was on like the infield last turn.
1:48:20
But it crossed the line like actually.
1:48:22
It came off the car flipped a few times, landed with a fair
1:48:27
amount of momentum and just rolled over the finish line.
1:48:29
My worst fear is if stuff happened.
1:48:31
Everyone cheered for. It, yeah.
1:48:33
My worst fear, though, is that it would hurt somebody else.
1:48:36
Yeah, that's a. That's an object like.
1:48:38
With the mobile dyno stuff, something flying off and hitting
1:48:41
somebody, I'm a little worried about that it.
1:48:43
Yeah, yeah. What kind of insurance can you
1:48:45
get for that waiver? Liability.
1:48:47
Yeah, you can't get a waiver from everybody that's there.
1:48:49
I mean, it presumably used them to work with an event organizer
1:48:53
and CEO. What kind of waiver they have
1:48:55
like? Maybe you just put that in there
1:48:57
too? Put that in the waiver when they
1:48:59
enter the. Everyone on the front.
1:49:00
Flying Dino parts. I've never had any in in like
1:49:04
the I bought that Dino a little over 10 years ago now, right
1:49:08
around 10 years and nothing's ever flown off even in the shop
1:49:12
wherever had like a tire D bead, which doesn't do much, you just
1:49:17
kind of shift side to side a little.
1:49:19
Yeah. That would be shit in myself.
1:49:22
Dr. Shafts Vibrate. A board runs for stuff like
1:49:26
that, or hear a rear wheel like coming loose and lift, but
1:49:30
nothing that did any damage or flew off.
1:49:33
But, but you've had like, have you had like motors blow like
1:49:35
that? I feel like that's got to be
1:49:37
more common than like a hardware issue.
1:49:39
I had only like very, very recently had a catastrophic and
1:49:43
it was an Sr. you know, Of course it was.
1:49:45
Of course. I don't even know why I don't.
1:49:48
It was a freshly built engine and it just dumped number for
1:49:52
rod. Oh, there's a million reasons
1:49:54
why. So holy shit I don't.
1:49:56
Know something was up with it, but that's the first one I've
1:49:59
had. I actually first.
1:50:01
That's the first time like inside parts become outside
1:50:03
parts. Oh, it's pretty.
1:50:05
Impressive that. That was the first one.
1:50:07
I've had stuff like also mostly SRS.
1:50:11
They come in, they're like. I just settled this engine
1:50:12
myself. I do one run the limiter and it
1:50:14
has a. It has a obvious rod knock on
1:50:17
Excel and I'm like you, you know, you're going to get to do
1:50:19
it a second time. You know, oils, oils, fully
1:50:23
glitter, like, yeah, that. I mean you can't.
1:50:27
I guess you could run an engine so badly that you would do but.
1:50:31
Wiping. Out bearings.
1:50:32
With a tune on a 300 horsepower 4 cylinder, you can't even make
1:50:37
you'd blow a head gasket or fold a rod long before you'd hurt a
1:50:41
bearing from the tune being way off.
1:50:43
Like that stuff. That's just Nissan stuff.
1:50:46
Oil supply, they're not the greatest, you know, they're kind
1:50:49
of known for that, right? Even the VQS, you don't keep
1:50:52
those topped up with oil, you're.
1:50:53
Going to I feel like VQS, you're going to blow up no matter what
1:50:55
you do. I I think.
1:50:57
Eventually. Durable.
1:50:59
I don't know. I.
1:51:00
Can't. I'm thinking the old ones, not
1:51:01
the newer. Mine's an O3 and that engine, so
1:51:03
it's. Ade, right?
1:51:05
Yeah, DE 200 something, 1000 miles.
1:51:08
It took it out of my car and now it's in Kyle Supco's S14.
1:51:13
And it's still going. Yeah, I mean, it burns a lot of
1:51:15
oil, especially on a cold. Start, I was about to say.
1:51:17
That's popped off though. Yup, That's how you know it's
1:51:19
good. You know, it's all right.
1:51:21
Oil's work there. It's work out a little bit.
1:51:23
More I'm going to get AZ eventually one day for the shop
1:51:25
because I I do want to build one of those cars.
1:51:27
Rev UPS are not the most reliable, but DS, my other my
1:51:31
daily driver has 335,000 miles. Really.
1:51:36
I killed the engine eventually, but you.
1:51:38
Know. I was.
1:51:41
Calmly. Like, yeah, it.
1:51:42
Was my bad, you know. So it's, but it's.
1:51:45
Always like a negligence type of it's it's self-inflicted wound
1:51:49
type of so good engine so you. Really is you have a daily 3
1:51:52
foot easy, yeah. Yeah, you have another another
1:51:54
row three. Got it from.
1:51:58
It was abandoned. Was that a impound lot?
1:52:01
Got it cheap. 335,000 miles. Someone took care of it.
1:52:06
Holy. Shit, Then I got it.
1:52:07
It's not so nice anymore. 335,000 miles on Azi.
1:52:12
Changed oil, didn't do anything else for 5000 miles.
1:52:16
Then I was at a friend's shop and we were all doing Donuts so
1:52:20
you know, bought the whole tire I'm going to use.
1:52:22
The whole tire went through like an entire pair in one non-stop
1:52:27
donut session. Parked it.
1:52:30
I just pictured that engine screaming, but it's an old.
1:52:32
Man, it went from like. Just like again and again and
1:52:36
again and again and again. But.
1:52:37
The engine is like an old man because it's got 300. 1000 tires
1:52:41
help me and like you know it was like 5 minutes of limiter just
1:52:46
straight to key off, put it in park and go inside.
1:52:50
Then when I left later I keyed it on and you know that like
1:52:53
before it builds oil pressure. First hit had a little wrap like
1:52:57
oh that's it. That's new.
1:52:59
So then the next day when I got home, I checked the oil.
1:53:02
Nothing on the dipstick. All right?
1:53:04
At least a quart. Nothing.
1:53:06
Another quart. Just getting there.
1:53:09
All right, well, that makes sense.
1:53:10
I didn't check it for 5000 miles.
1:53:11
OK, with 300,000? Miles, they probably.
1:53:13
Would have lasted. Yeah, probably, if it had oil in
1:53:16
it before you did the doughnut. I felt a little bit bad, 'cause
1:53:18
that was a kind of a dumb way to end its streak.
1:53:20
But you know what? It shit happens.
1:53:23
Yeah, that'll happen. Play stupid games.
1:53:25
Plenty more DES for like $500 I hope.
1:53:27
Derek gets his shit, Derek said. He got his shit.
1:53:29
Really makes me so mad that they don't make that twin turbo kit
1:53:32
from Gretty anymore. That's all I want.
1:53:35
I know it's. Probably can, but they have
1:53:36
adapter plates to put factory GTR turbos on them.
1:53:40
BTW sells them. I want something that's like, I
1:53:43
like the Gretty kit because it was like, I know those turbos
1:53:45
were not big, I just want it to change the sound hopefully.
1:53:48
Oh, it makes them sound fine. Even a single turbo set up, just
1:53:51
like build a wide pipe from the stock manifolds changes
1:53:55
everything. That was it.
1:53:55
Because I don't want to push power like you, ever.
1:53:58
See the ones now with the turbo in the back.
1:54:02
Yeah, you know what's up with those?
1:54:03
Crazy. I never really, like, did
1:54:05
research into that shit. But all I think about is like,
1:54:08
is the exhaust pressure the same when it's all the way back
1:54:10
there? Like I guess.
1:54:10
Yeah, you get enough, you get enough velocity back there, it's
1:54:13
you got to pressurize the whole pipe.
1:54:15
But it's not. It's not as laggy as people make
1:54:19
it out to be. You know it.
1:54:20
You know, it's a lot on LS cars, but yeah, it's not bad.
1:54:23
You know what's really important when you have a setup like that?
1:54:26
Exhaust. Leaks.
1:54:27
Yeah, probably. You definitely need all your
1:54:29
gaskets. Yeah, in there and tight.
1:54:31
Yeah, that makes sense. You should have seen the look on
1:54:33
my face when I saw one of those for the first time.
1:54:35
It was AG 37. And, you know, obviously the
1:54:38
bumpers cut. Yeah.
1:54:40
I'm driving like. A Lambo, yeah.
1:54:42
Yeah. No.
1:54:42
No, no. A lot of people are trying to do
1:54:44
the the rear dual mounts. It was just the center, just the
1:54:47
center section, enough for you to see the turbo the entire
1:54:50
time. Mind you, I'm not the smartest
1:54:53
person in the room sometimes, but the entire time I'm driving
1:54:57
behind this thing, questioning if that's a turbo.
1:55:01
You're like, I was like, what the fuck am I looking at right
1:55:05
now? Like 'cause they'll use the
1:55:06
filters right there, the turbo, and then, you know, it sounds
1:55:09
different. Have you tuned one of those like
1:55:11
a rear mounted set up? Not on AVQ, but on LSS, yeah.
1:55:15
And and you, did you notice any, I mean it's so hard to ask that
1:55:18
question. No, I I mean if you did a
1:55:21
back-to-back like same set up with mounted in the front or
1:55:25
mounted in the back you there, I'm sure there's a difference.
1:55:27
You know, there's definitely be a discernible difference, but
1:55:29
it's not bad. I mean for a Street car, the
1:55:33
one, the one was an automatic GTO built engine and had like a
1:55:38
76mm something that's not that big for a six litre I.
1:55:41
Was. Going to say 76mm.
1:55:43
Kind of large 7675's, too small for that engine really, but.
1:55:47
So this might be a dumb comparison.
1:55:49
You tell me if it's dumb. You know how people are always
1:55:51
like, oh, I got to put a high mount intercooler in because I
1:55:53
don't want all the piping going down.
1:55:57
Do you think that's like? Relatable.
1:55:59
There's a whole a little, I mean that's still area you got to,
1:56:02
you have to fill. But yeah, that volume in the
1:56:05
grand scheme of things isn't a ton.
1:56:07
I mean, I but I don't get me wrong, I really like a clean
1:56:09
setup like that too. Like I like I did a doing AVR 30
1:56:12
swap into my car. Yeah, and they have, you know,
1:56:16
dual twin turbo, twin air to waters and the turbo outlets
1:56:20
just go straight up to the inner corner, straight into the
1:56:22
throttle. It's definitely nice.
1:56:23
Like that's going to get you that a little bit, but you know
1:56:26
you're talking in the case of like small percentages.
1:56:30
And then I think about Subarus, when they they do the opposite,
1:56:32
they'll be like, oh, I need a front mount intercooler.
1:56:34
Piping runs. Piping is just like. 3 laps
1:56:36
around the engine. Bed, yeah.
1:56:37
It's like you're adding seven feet of piping when you when you
1:56:40
literally had one foot or less and then but they run those cars
1:56:44
and they're like, oh, they they never complain about it.
1:56:47
There's a whole thing to sizing the piping like the air
1:56:50
velocity. Garrett has a nice tool in their
1:56:53
website, like ideally like for intercooler piping and all that
1:56:57
you don't, You want your airspeed to be like half a mock
1:56:59
and what the yeah, you can get way into, you know, I'm sure
1:57:03
it's a lot of fabricators. I want a Mach 5.
1:57:05
I know. I'm like, give me the air.
1:57:06
Mock airflow at. Mach one not great.
1:57:09
Yeah, but apparently half, you know, half the speed of sound is
1:57:12
so magic number. That's so interesting.
1:57:15
I didn't fuck what I'm over here like intercooler piping.
1:57:19
Just connect one end to the other.
1:57:20
The air is going hundreds of mph through there.
1:57:23
Kind of insane. It's going to cover the ground,
1:57:25
that one foot. It's going to get there.
1:57:27
Yeah, like it's going to take it real long.
1:57:30
Yeah, like. Half the time it takes you to
1:57:31
yell at the throttle body, that air's going to be there.
1:57:33
You know, like that's pretty fast.
1:57:35
That's so crazy. Half a mock.
1:57:37
What the? Fuck, I never knew that.
1:57:40
Definitely the first time that's been said on here.
1:57:43
Dude, the mock. Yeah, the fuck.
1:57:46
So that's ideal airspeed, I guess, they say, Garrett says.
1:57:49
The general rule of thumb, something like that.
1:57:51
There's all kinds of stuff you can read on cylinder head design
1:57:55
and airflow, and that's, I don't know, all's.
1:57:57
I know if you use a turbo to make the air pressure higher, it
1:58:01
gets better. It takes out some of those
1:58:04
imperfections of port flow a little bit.
1:58:06
I I feel like. Score one for.
1:58:08
Turbo I try to. I try to always go back.
1:58:11
Well, especially now is after the conversation we just had
1:58:13
about, like, there are limitations, but like, you know,
1:58:19
the turbos have been around for a while.
1:58:21
You know, like, what the hell were they doing before?
1:58:23
Just like making it. This is the.
1:58:25
Craziest stuff too, that I'd like.
1:58:27
I like the idea of the flip intercolor piping is mounted
1:58:31
high. I smash into the ground a lot
1:58:33
with my drift car, so I'm like, yeah, I rip all that piping out.
1:58:36
It's nice. It's clear that makes sense when
1:58:38
I go through the woods. It'll stay intact.
1:58:40
Yeah, but you know they'll put I need to short route my
1:58:46
intercooler piping. Take a 12 inches of intercooler
1:58:49
pipe will turn out. But I want to run this old T
1:58:51
series, just get a get get AG 25 bro.
1:58:55
That's going to make it so much better and it doesn't matter.
1:58:59
Like that's so true. Oh my God, those people.
1:59:02
Misappropriate funds so much and I, you know, I get that all the
1:59:06
time. People ask me that's one of my,
1:59:08
I mean paves, they'll get a lot of texts from people like it's
1:59:12
not a, you know, not the media and it's if a couple people here
1:59:15
and there. I'll have customers that I want
1:59:17
to get tuned next year when I get my car finished, they'll
1:59:20
text me, text me like all this you know what would you run and
1:59:23
be your opinion on these parts whatever.
1:59:24
And I'll tell them like this is this is what I would get and
1:59:28
they show up with like not that the exact.
1:59:30
Opposite. Shit faction Motorsports, who
1:59:32
would put on I? Mean that's.
1:59:33
What I do to breakies? The one thing you don't want to
1:59:35
skimp on is injectors. And we're like, well, eBay had
1:59:39
these genuine Bosch injectors for cheap and I'm like, man, you
1:59:42
did. You did the one thing.
1:59:43
I got them. Used.
1:59:44
That's great. You made it worse somehow.
1:59:46
Yeah, the. One thing.
1:59:49
Though that kind of segues us into I mean somebody we we have
1:59:53
all these questions here but somebody asked how to size their
1:59:56
turbo appropriately, does that piping and all of that.
2:00:01
I I don't know. I'll probably get some kick back
2:00:04
on this one, but my opinion is yes, the smallest turbo that can
2:00:08
meet your goals with probably the biggest or close to the
2:00:12
biggest AR turbine housing that it comes with.
2:00:16
Getting a turbo that's too big and choking it with a small AR
2:00:18
turbine housing is not going to make up for the amount of lag
2:00:21
you're introducing just from just the inertia, from all that
2:00:24
extra wheel and mass that you're trying to spin.
2:00:27
You're way better off. Get a turbo that you're going to
2:00:31
wring out to get to your goal and then choke it as little as
2:00:34
possible with the biggest terminals you can get.
2:00:36
It's going to out spoil the bigger turbo with a small AR
2:00:40
because a lot of times if you're on a good setup you could go
2:00:42
from a point 62.63 whatever, let's say terms of T3 to a .82
2:00:48
and you will. You might even make power
2:00:50
sooner. It will be at less boost because
2:00:52
you don't look at PSI versus RPM pressures, just resistance to
2:00:57
airflow. If your setup works right, it
2:00:59
will make more power at half that amount of boost.
2:01:02
What does the A/R stand for out of curious?
2:01:05
Aspect ratio. I think it is aspect ratio, but
2:01:08
it's a turbine size. That's the larger.
2:01:10
So when that number is larger, that's the turbine we're
2:01:13
talking. About, yeah, and it's it's
2:01:15
proportional to the turbo. So a .63 on a 58mm turbine is
2:01:19
not the same as .63 on a 72mm turbine, because it's a ratio
2:01:23
against the diameter of the wheel.
2:01:25
He's kind of saying almost the opposite of what most people
2:01:29
think when they think of turbos, like, oh, I'm going to get the
2:01:31
smaller I. Fully call that a myth.
2:01:34
This is an Internet myth. I'm glad you said that because I
2:01:36
got the bigger one from mine so and I was a little nervous
2:01:39
about. That I just tried it.
2:01:40
Back-to-back like cars. Like like say Rich's set up on
2:01:46
his FD car is Jay ZX. Yeah, fantastic cylinder head.
2:01:49
That thing makes monster power just from having the head
2:01:53
correctly ported. No other, no other real change
2:01:57
to the car, just a cylinder head swap.
2:01:59
Same turbo, same exhaust manifold.
2:02:01
It made the same power at 12 PSI less boost. 12. 12 Less almost.
2:02:08
A full bar? What the fuck?
2:02:10
Just just cylinder head work. Just head work and it make and
2:02:14
so you can imagine that turbo is making 10PSI about as fast as
2:02:18
it. Well, not as fast as it used to
2:02:19
because it doesn't need as much pressure to make power, but down
2:02:23
low, where that turbo used to have to make 15 PSI to make 500
2:02:27
foot pounds, yeah, it does it at like 5 PSI now.
2:02:30
It's just. Flowing way better, it just
2:02:32
flows better and that's crazy. That's so.
2:02:35
There's a lot of good info here just cuz I never knew.
2:02:37
First of all I never knew what that point 82.63 point whatever
2:02:44
AR meant. Now I kind of.
2:02:46
Now I at least I feel like I think I do.
2:02:47
And also how to sign, like, definitely useful information.
2:02:52
Daryl, I'm going to fucking tell you about this.
2:02:54
You better fucking listen to this shit.
2:02:56
But yeah, never knew what the fuck that was for.
2:02:59
In a modern turbo, like just to say, we use Zona Bird as an
2:03:05
example, they have the UHF Ultra High Flow turbine.
2:03:09
They kind of combine the idea of a clip turbine.
2:03:12
So what they used to do is they'd clip turbine the blades
2:03:16
down so there'd be more clearance between the wheel and
2:03:18
the housing so that you wouldn't have it would raise your choke
2:03:20
limit. OK.
2:03:21
But you sacrifice a little bit of spool for that if you get
2:03:24
more top end power. The other way that they change
2:03:28
that is some turbines have more blades, some have less, and
2:03:31
that's the same concept basically like.
2:03:33
More resistant, the amount of air that that it can pull in or
2:03:36
something like that. Yeah, just the amount you get to
2:03:38
a point where your back pressure is rising too fast, it's just
2:03:40
bottlenecking, you know and you could have an 11 blade turbine.
2:03:43
If you're bottlenecking and your back pressure is getting out of
2:03:45
control, you go to 10 blade, same thing.
2:03:47
You might lose a little spool, but you're going to gain a lot
2:03:50
in the top end. So it's always a trade off too
2:03:53
between like what's going to get you the power band you want.
2:03:57
But you know Ozona has this new one, it's it's a five on five
2:04:01
style. Like you've seen old cast
2:04:03
compressors that have, you know, 6 full size blades and six small
2:04:06
blades in between. They're doing that with the
2:04:08
turbine. They have 5 full size blades and
2:04:10
in between those are five shorter blades.
2:04:12
So you you kind of get a hybrid of more, more turbine blades,
2:04:18
but they're also half of them are clipped a lot.
2:04:21
So you have lighter weight, lighter rotating assembly there
2:04:25
and you've increased the choke limit because those blades have
2:04:29
a lot of space around them for there to move.
2:04:31
So you kind of get a mix of the two and they do spool fantastic
2:04:36
and you can make a ton of power. The ones I've tuned so far have,
2:04:41
like, way exceeded what they're rated for.
2:04:43
Probably not supposed to. Yet, I've.
2:04:45
Avoided some warranties there, but they live with it and they
2:04:48
make way more than they say they're going to make.
2:04:50
What about like the new G series Turbo is?
2:04:52
What is there any magic behind? They're great.
2:04:55
So the T series, GTG series, a lot of that the, you know, the,
2:05:00
you know like GT30GT35 you're talking about the turbine size.
2:05:04
That's what Garrett uses to designate the turbine size.
2:05:07
So if you go from AG25 to AG30 that's the different turbine and
2:05:11
then the 660 whatever the horsepower estimated number is
2:05:15
more or less like the different compressors.
2:05:18
So but kind of what I was getting at there is like AGT all
2:05:23
the GTS are that same generation of turbine era arrow, AG Series
2:05:28
that's new turbine Arrow and that hasn't changed in a long
2:05:31
time. So we're talking back to, you
2:05:34
know when GTS were factory 240, S 14's 95 or whatever, they
2:05:41
started the ball bearing T28's. That's AG, that's AGT 20 what?
2:05:45
2828 or. 286028 something like that.
2:05:49
It's a GT28 basically. I don't know.
2:05:51
They're still calling them T20 eights, but the ball bearing
2:05:53
ones are GT turbos. So you think that's how old that
2:05:56
turbine technology is? The G Series revamped, Garrett's
2:06:00
taken a little bit more of a focus on the performance
2:06:03
aftermarket. Finally, a lot of these
2:06:04
companies don't care about that because their bread and butters,
2:06:07
the OEMs, every new car has a Garrett MGT turbo on it from BMW
2:06:14
to the new Z and Infinities, they're all Garrett turbos,
2:06:18
that's what they're making money off of.
2:06:20
But even those, they have new turbine Arrow, they're billet
2:06:23
compressor wheels in a lot of them like the new Z, those are
2:06:28
billet compressor wheels that come from the factory like that.
2:06:30
You know, I heard those turbos are pretty shitty, to be honest
2:06:32
with you. They're little.
2:06:33
They're really little, at least. But they're.
2:06:36
People that work at Infinity tell us they're just like, yeah,
2:06:38
those things blow all the time, but we're like, what?
2:06:40
Yeah, I don't know. There must be some kind of
2:06:42
defect or some shit. But they also, they'll pull the
2:06:44
intake off and be like there's oil in here, turbos.
2:06:46
Yeah, that's that's. Kind of what?
2:06:47
A PCV system. Does, Yeah.
2:06:49
Yeah, I don't. Know a question?
2:06:50
How many of them are actually blown?
2:06:51
But. So those G series are pretty,
2:06:54
pretty wild. Yeah, like.
2:06:55
They they work fantastic too. Like you're going to get way
2:06:58
more out of just upgrading to a newer generation of turbo.
2:07:02
Yeah. But people still would like jump
2:07:05
through all these hoops and then put an old 2871 on and it's
2:07:09
like, well, TDO 6 easier way. Yeah.
2:07:12
Those are really everyone act like the DSM days, the TDO fives
2:07:16
and. TDO 6 I have atdo 6 on my car
2:07:17
right? Now they are not fast.
2:07:19
It used to be right. It used to be right there and I
2:07:22
used to point to it. And it's a newer like RX series,
2:07:25
gritty Turbo. I'm like, what did they change
2:07:27
like? I mean, they haven't been
2:07:28
making. These, they added letters.
2:07:29
Yeah, I'm like, if they haven't really been making these, I feel
2:07:32
like, but I guess they do make them still, but.
2:07:34
Got their. It's just crazy.
2:07:35
I feel like it just came off. Some like Mitsubishi, Fuso,
2:07:37
whatever box truck. In Japan, they're like.
2:07:39
Yes. They're like, OK, we can use
2:07:41
this one. Got good old CT15B.
2:07:45
Yeah, stock 1J turbo, but I did a steel wheel upgrade on mine.
2:07:49
Yeah, that's the important thing because those things burst.
2:07:51
Yeah. Like, aside from the fact that
2:07:54
it was blown like the there was a lot of play.
2:07:58
So I just yeah, good to have it. Checked.
2:07:59
I was like, you know what? I Yeah, the, the, the to come.
2:08:04
Fuck would that be the exhaust, The one on the the dirtier one.
2:08:08
The exhaust wheel had so many little chunks out of the fins.
2:08:13
Really. And I was like, oh, they got
2:08:15
damn. Well, I guess they replaced
2:08:17
that. I replaced them the.
2:08:19
Turbine and shaft. Yeah, the the cartridge whole
2:08:22
thing in the middle of it. You got the whole drift motion
2:08:25
or something? Or.
2:08:25
Yeah, yeah. They have like a lot of people
2:08:27
run those. That's what I yeah, put on
2:08:29
there. And now the hopefully not blow
2:08:32
up. You you'll be good.
2:08:33
Now. Miyagi didn't do that and she
2:08:34
blew up. Turbo went.
2:08:36
Yeah, on the way home too. From E Town.
2:08:38
Remember Malcolm? That'll happen.
2:08:39
Yeah. And is that why there's a tomei
2:08:41
one in there? No, he doesn't have a Tomei 1.
2:08:44
Don't don't get those for the 1J.
2:08:46
He has a dude. Don't get those for anything.
2:08:49
Really bad. They're.
2:08:50
Bad. They are bad on one JV.
2:08:51
Wait. You tell me what you've
2:08:52
experienced. Boost Creep excessively laggy
2:08:56
for how much power they won't? Make OK we put one on the RB and
2:08:59
we had the same this. I don't think it was a single, I
2:09:02
think it was the twin. It must have been a twin turbo
2:09:04
set up that they sold. Thank God you said that because
2:09:07
for me I'm like oh he's got a tow made turbo like oh.
2:09:10
For some reason. That one J.
2:09:12
It seems like some people all very good.
2:09:14
Some people have OK results. I feel like for the SR1 they
2:09:16
seem like they have OK results. But I remember we put that shit
2:09:19
on RB dude, we were like chasing our tail 'cause we were like
2:09:23
this. This cannot be this slow, like
2:09:25
something's wrong. But dude, when it hit, it
2:09:28
fucking hit hard. But it was like way too late.
2:09:32
Like you were like something's drastically wrong with this
2:09:34
engine, but nothing was wrong. Just dated turbo technology
2:09:37
after hearing Andy's reasoning for the G series.
2:09:42
Now I'm thinking like how long have I known what AGT 28 is?
2:09:45
Or like agg 28702871 R and that likes fucking everybody Honda
2:09:51
people 240 people fucking everyone 2871 R That's what I
2:09:55
knew what a turbo was. Yeah.
2:09:56
If you go way back to like when you know early 2000s again,
2:10:00
you'd be like the SC 61. That'd be like the turbo to
2:10:03
make. People were making 500 on it.
2:10:05
That was making 500 was not common.
2:10:08
That was the number that was tough to get to.
2:10:10
Now that's the same. I mean, so many stock cars,
2:10:13
dude. What about like, the whole sit
2:10:14
ones? You're like, take the diesel
2:10:16
turbo, fucking slap it on there, yeah?
2:10:18
That's. Josh for a little?
2:10:20
Bit was like, why don't you get why?
2:10:21
Don't you get the diesel turbo and put the SAFC on there on the
2:10:24
GE and I'm like. I'm all four for cobbling.
2:10:26
I'm all four cobbling nonsense together and see how it works.
2:10:29
But you don't necessarily need to bring it to me to tune it
2:10:31
then. Yeah, yeah, like.
2:10:33
I don't want to deal with it, but it is fun on, you know, your
2:10:37
own projects too. Like that was how it used to be,
2:10:39
I remember. I mean, oh, Justin had some
2:10:41
weird diesel turbo on his Sr. Oh yeah, like really common on
2:10:44
DSMS too. Whole sets from a, you know, 6
2:10:47
BT Commons, all the Ram trucks, that's what they have.
2:10:51
I have friends that still I've seen, you know, I know a couple
2:10:53
people. I've tuned a car on RB20
2:10:55
recently that had a whole set on it.
2:10:57
You know Commons diesel, Turbo. You have to mark it so good now
2:11:00
though, It's kind of. Like, that's what all the turbos
2:11:02
used to be. You know, that was one thing
2:11:03
back in the day, like a GT42. You get those really cheap
2:11:06
because they came on Detroit 60s.
2:11:08
It's just a commercial diesel engine.
2:11:10
Turbo I didn't. Get them everywhere.
2:11:12
People were slapping those on supers like crazy because you
2:11:15
get them for a couple 100 bucks. Damn, I feel like they just made
2:11:19
better noises too. I don't know.
2:11:21
But compared to like today's standards, mega lag, you don't
2:11:24
make any power. It's like a Tow Mate Turbo.
2:11:26
Yeah, back. Hope they don't listen.
2:11:29
To this before I was, you know, had the EVO, I was doing laptop
2:11:31
stuff. It was all like doing all that
2:11:33
nonsense, You know, like crush the fuel pressure regulator,
2:11:36
make a little more, yes, cut little sections of the math out
2:11:39
to compensate for the fact that you're raising fuel pressure
2:11:41
everywhere. Like, that's crazy.
2:11:42
Notch the cast to because they're not adjustable like a
2:11:45
Nissan Ones. He'd notch the cast to kind of
2:11:47
advance timing everywhere. All kinds.
2:11:49
Anything you could do you? Got to tap in the blow valve
2:11:52
the. Diverter crush the blow valve.
2:11:54
Oh yeah, all those tricks. I never, I don't know anything
2:11:56
we're talking about. It's just getting around, not
2:11:59
being able to tune. Because there was no aftermarket
2:12:01
shit, I mean. AFC or something, you know, and
2:12:04
they can only do so much and you're telling the math, You're
2:12:08
just reducing the amount of load the engine sees to reduce the
2:12:11
injector flow. But simultaneously, you're also
2:12:13
putting yourself in a higher amount of ignition advance while
2:12:17
running. More boost and more power, which
2:12:19
isn't a good way to blow something up.
2:12:21
But if you go in, you roll the cast out, crank everything up,
2:12:25
the AFC. So you got bigger injectors, but
2:12:27
you've reduced your timing everywhere a lot.
2:12:29
You know, you can kind of those fuel get away with it, those
2:12:31
fuel. Computers are so crazy to me, I
2:12:35
wish I I don't know. If you think about it way
2:12:37
fucking easier dude. Like.
2:12:39
Well, it is kind of way less. Yeah.
2:12:42
It is just like easier. It is just band aiding or you
2:12:46
know, it's just it's just a cheat try to work around.
2:12:49
And that's why, if you know anymore, even if it's my own
2:12:52
car, I'm like, I'm biased, alien, like, yeah.
2:12:54
At. This point I've.
2:12:55
Done it up, Screwing around. It's a hassle.
2:12:57
Yeah, this one's. I mean this goes again off of
2:13:00
this. Look at these questions so
2:13:01
structured. This one's from Ricardo favorite
2:13:03
and least favorite ECOECU to tune.
2:13:08
Do you have a favorite or least favorite?
2:13:11
I've been recommending a lot of this.
2:13:12
Guy's going to say Haltech. Haltech and Link.
2:13:15
Haltech and Link are nice. Fuck you.
2:13:18
I just had a feeling he likes Haltech more, but you don't.
2:13:21
You don't have a problem with Link.
2:13:22
You like Link is. Fine.
2:13:24
No, no reason, I said Haltech. Before link OK, so you like both
2:13:26
of them, yeah? What makes them better than the
2:13:29
other? Just of the from your standpoint
2:13:31
like a tuner's? Standpoint, yeah, definitely.
2:13:33
For for a tuner tuner standpoint, the user interface
2:13:36
matters matters a lot, because I mean it's going to make the job
2:13:40
way easier. Like from you looking?
2:13:43
Through I can, yeah. I have a layout that's set up
2:13:45
for Lync and I can, you know, I have a chat, you know, logging
2:13:48
channels and graphs all set up already.
2:13:50
And it's just everything you could want to see is there.
2:13:53
They have a super fast processor in them.
2:13:55
You can log everything as you know, high enough rate to get
2:14:00
good data. It's just makes life so much
2:14:02
easier when you can get all of that data.
2:14:05
Lync and Haltech both have internal logging storage, so I
2:14:09
set up auto logging whole time you're driving around your car's
2:14:13
saving logs. Hit me up with a problem, say
2:14:15
send me dump, dump the log file off the ECU and e-mail it to me
2:14:19
and I can see what it's been doing.
2:14:21
Like a doctor. Yeah.
2:14:22
That's so helpful. Like it's doing it
2:14:24
automatically. It's just all you can set it up
2:14:27
for anytime you're over 2000 RPM and more than 25% throttle or
2:14:31
whatever. You want.
2:14:32
It'll save it for like, maybe Like how long?
2:14:35
As soon as you cross those thresholds, it'll start logging
2:14:38
until you're back below those thresholds, and then you can set
2:14:41
an off timer so it'll wait 3 seconds after you're off
2:14:44
throttle to make sure you're not just doing some sort of gear
2:14:47
change or transient. You're going to get back on the
2:14:49
throttle so you don't end up with weird cuts in the middle
2:14:51
of. That's pretty helpful.
2:14:53
But that's. That's pretty.
2:14:55
You know what doesn't have that? Yeah, well.
2:14:58
Like. Yeah.
2:14:59
That seems helpful as fuck. Lower cost ECU master Black's a
2:15:05
fantastic bang. I've heard a lot of people.
2:15:07
I don't a lot. Of any people.
2:15:09
About. This ECU master.
2:15:11
But I I mean, it's fucking halt a lot.
2:15:13
Of goodies and it's cheap. Yeah.
2:15:15
Chris likes those. It's cheap.
2:15:17
User interface like pretty good. Or it's alright, it's pretty
2:15:21
good. OK, the other thing.
2:15:23
So the one thing that really separates Lincoln Altech from
2:15:27
the ECU masters if you want to do something. $1000.
2:15:31
Not even depends. Depends on the model.
2:15:34
You know, like a link plug and play.
2:15:36
For S13 they're like 14 hundred 1500 bucks.
2:15:41
Yeah, they're not even that. Crazy the the ECU Masters 1100
2:15:46
Ish 11. I think it went up recently and
2:15:48
something like that and then 250 bucks for the patch.
2:15:50
So I mean you're you're close. Yeah, 1.
2:15:54
Benefit point, it's like you're just picking whichever one you
2:15:56
want. Yeah, the prices.
2:15:57
Is so close you can do an EC master a little less.
2:15:59
I mean, and if you're doing a a wire in link like a storm or
2:16:02
something, that's. That's, yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:16:05
But you know, it depends. It's not a huge cost difference,
2:16:08
but you got it depends on what you're doing with your card if
2:16:10
it's worthwhile to have it. But the one thing with how tech
2:16:15
and links, if I want to do something based on you know it's
2:16:18
not a table that exists, I can just make a table.
2:16:20
You can just set something up generically that does something
2:16:23
that's not built into the ECU and sometimes that really comes
2:16:28
in handy. For most stuff, you don't need
2:16:30
anything outside of the normal strategies.
2:16:32
So that really is a comes down to what you're trying to do with
2:16:36
the car, and that's one thing maybe good time to know, like if
2:16:41
you're not sure what ECU to get, ask whoever going to have tune
2:16:44
it the best. ECU is the one that the person
2:16:47
you're going to have setting it up wants to use.
2:16:50
Yeah, because it would be the most comfortable with it and
2:16:51
knowledgeable on it. And if they say like, like, I'm
2:16:55
fine with doing power FCS, we're really that's what you have.
2:16:57
That's all right. But you're telling me you want
2:16:59
to, you're gonna have a fully built, you know, drift car,
2:17:03
you're gonna do competitions. We'll be like you need to not
2:17:05
run that. EC.
2:17:06
At all. You you need.
2:17:08
To get an 800 horsepower. You.
2:17:10
Yeah, like. Frankie, you're kind of like.
2:17:13
I'm on the line. You're on the fucking line,
2:17:15
pretty. I have.
2:17:16
Atdo 6 It's not that. Serious, but you have a two
2:17:18
point. 2. I want to you even and a Max
2:17:20
this turbo out for all it's worth.
2:17:21
I'd be like and run ethanol and I'm like, all right, maybe.
2:17:24
Yeah, yeah, get a house once you start doing flex fuel and shit.
2:17:27
Power FC for that, yeah. Power FC, probably.
2:17:29
Ain't there's other examples though, like you brought up more
2:17:33
like Tom. I think it happened to Tom and
2:17:36
and Josh recently. Yeah, What are they doing?
2:17:38
Josh's his S14 engine lit. I used to be in Tony's S15.
2:17:42
I let some other guy, Chris Davis or something.
2:17:45
Yeah, Chris Davis. And then I sold it to Josh and
2:17:48
that engine was never opened or something, right?
2:17:50
All just untouched. I tuned it three times in three
2:17:53
different cars. That green one.
2:17:55
Yeah, the green belt. I remember seeing that, that
2:17:58
dude. Fuel pump wiring took it out.
2:18:01
And it sucks too, because the car was here for an alignment.
2:18:03
We saw those wires. I remember I told Chris I was
2:18:06
like, what the fuck is this? And he's like, I don't know,
2:18:08
probably fucking tail lights or some shit because, you know,
2:18:11
it's right by the tail light harness.
2:18:12
And I was like, we should probably tell Josh.
2:18:14
We didn't tell Josh. But if you had, you know if you
2:18:17
had a link. He thought it was tail lights
2:18:18
too, though. Link Caltech ECU master it would
2:18:21
have threw with a fuel pressure sensor.
2:18:23
You can just set up delta fuel pressure safety.
2:18:26
If fuel pressure drops to the point that the ECU is not able
2:18:29
to compensate or the fuel's not going to atomize anymore, just
2:18:33
cut it out. Just.
2:18:35
Or at least raise a warning. I mean, that's a that's a mixed
2:18:38
bag too. A lot of people that are
2:18:39
drifting, they don't want a safety to intervene to the point
2:18:42
that I could interrupt them when they're running a wall or
2:18:44
something. Because what's the worst case?
2:18:46
It's maybe blow the engine up or like save the engine but wad the
2:18:49
car it. Could get.
2:18:51
Sketchy. It depends.
2:18:52
And that's some people are OK. They'd rather have the safety,
2:18:56
and I honestly think it's not that big.
2:18:58
It depends on where it intervenes.
2:19:00
But it would have to be if you lose.
2:19:01
Power like you're probably fine. I don't.
2:19:04
Know it would have to be a real weird situation.
2:19:07
Yeah, especially if you're not like a comp car where you really
2:19:09
rely on the the forward bite to get you through the turn.
2:19:13
That's different. But you're also probably at a
2:19:15
budgetary level where you. Hopefully you don't.
2:19:18
Fix whatever happens. But a grassroots car like you're
2:19:22
not, and you don't have so much forward, you don't have so much
2:19:25
grip in that car and so much power that that's a factor in
2:19:28
driving it. I have a sub majorly sub
2:19:30
question of this. You brought up links like next
2:19:33
tiers of ECU's like what is the difference between like the one
2:19:37
that we got up here, the drop in one for the S13 or whatever that
2:19:40
goes in the regular stock ECU versus like the best one they
2:19:43
make like what are some of the like?
2:19:45
Features some of them so that that has specifically the
2:19:48
hardware it needs to run that application.
2:19:51
Now if you want one that can do dual closed loop wide band for
2:19:54
two different banks. That's some crazy shit.
2:19:59
That's some F33. I don't built in O2 sensor
2:20:03
control. A lot of those I've tried.
2:20:05
A lot of those do have a lot of the software features, but you
2:20:07
know, it comes down to if it can support all of the goodies you
2:20:11
got on your setup, like there's some stuff that it's not going
2:20:14
to do. Yeah, so interesting.
2:20:18
The next one? Yes, Steely Tooth looks good.
2:20:21
Stevie, what's the wildest car you've had on the dyno?
2:20:25
He said. Wildest.
2:20:27
Slash fastest, slash slowest, slash coolest.
2:20:29
I'm just going to say memorable, I guess.
2:20:31
Do you have a memorable 1I? Think he asked something like
2:20:33
this earlier and we didn't really get to it.
2:20:35
So yeah, I think weird ones. There was like a kit.
2:20:39
How do you say Cataran? You know, a little?
2:20:42
A boat? No.
2:20:44
No, I was. Not a.
2:20:46
Catamaran. Not a catamaran, yeah.
2:20:49
What are they? I think I'm oh can am.
2:20:52
Like a side by side. Thing.
2:20:54
Like a razor. Knob Roadster.
2:20:56
He's going to show us. I don't know what the hell
2:20:58
there's. Probably some light poles.
2:21:00
Like a old car, Like an MG? Like a?
2:21:03
Midgem M7. Sort.
2:21:05
Of Oh. Cater.
2:21:06
Caterham. Caterham.
2:21:08
You say it. Yeah.
2:21:09
Oh, that's good. Yeah, the little one, the fat.
2:21:11
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Little go Kart guy.
2:21:13
A Mazda MZR like a 2.3 liter for the Mazda speeds.
2:21:16
Terrible engine, but it had a hump.
2:21:19
For some reason it was in there and those engines.
2:21:21
I don't think that's what's normally in there, is it?
2:21:24
They put something else in there that Revs high and sounds 4
2:21:27
cylindery hopefully. But it was.
2:21:30
I forget what turbo had on it. Upgraded built engine.
2:21:33
Oh, OK. I think we stopped at like 300
2:21:36
and 325 and yeah, the owner, you know, the owner was like, yeah,
2:21:41
driving. Let's go for a drive.
2:21:42
All right. Because he I was I asked him you
2:21:44
know if he wants to drive it make sure everything works
2:21:46
because he's he's having a lot of trouble getting some things
2:21:48
sorted out. I found problems with his fuel
2:21:50
system. I had to change the fuel line
2:21:52
routing to fix fuel pressure problem that he had.
2:21:55
I said we'll go drive around see if the transients and all that
2:21:58
are better and it feels all right and we made it like half a
2:22:02
mile and he was like I did he like do you want to drive it?
2:22:04
I I can't keep my foot in it and like, I'll drive it.
2:22:08
What the fuck? It was wild.
2:22:09
It was fast. Dude, the curb weight on that
2:22:11
thing is like about a piece of paper and a half.
2:22:14
Like. 1200 and. 14 It's insane. Oh my God.
2:22:17
They so 300 was enough to like, oh.
2:22:19
Yeah, yeah. And you're not attached to
2:22:22
anything. You're just your heads out.
2:22:23
Yeah. Yeah.
2:22:24
Scary as hell, like, And you're not exactly short.
2:22:27
Yeah, yeah. You know, if you're upside down,
2:22:29
you're like totally going to be. Totally dead.
2:22:31
Totally dead. I remember watching a Top Gear
2:22:33
episode with one of those things and they had to like build it
2:22:37
like it came. You could either save money by
2:22:40
building it or or it came pre assembled.
2:22:43
Oh that's cool I think. But those cars were.
2:22:47
What I knew about them was that they were like fucking go karts.
2:22:50
It was a lot of fun to drive, That was that was definitely,
2:22:52
especially since I got to go abuse it with the owner.
2:22:54
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You run it through its faces all
2:22:57
right if I have to. It's.
2:23:00
Like. That was fun.
2:23:01
And then like, I love Mark Fours, I see.
2:23:04
I hate saying it now because it's so like.
2:23:07
R30 fours. Always have I missed my
2:23:11
opportunity to buy one. Had plenty of chances when I was
2:23:14
younger. It's like it's like, you know,
2:23:16
we were talking about that earlier.
2:23:17
Like if I did, I wasn't tuning all the time.
2:23:19
I wouldn't be driving a 23 year old truck.
2:23:23
Yeah, yeah. It's when I bought the dyno like
2:23:26
the next week. A 96 white black interior
2:23:30
original turbo automatic, had a built engine with big boost
2:23:34
Logic turbo set up on it. If he was selling the car with
2:23:38
you know stock wheels and CCW drag pack and he wanted like 19
2:23:45
for or something. I was about to say a stupid low
2:23:48
number like that because we just got it done telling.
2:23:50
I told a story. Didn't just buy this dyno.
2:23:53
20/10/2011 around there my old neighbor sold his for like 7
2:23:58
grand, but it was not. It was Ana.
2:24:01
It was repainted. How much do they go for now?
2:24:03
I don't know. Like that same car.
2:24:05
That same car, I mean with it set up right, all running good,
2:24:09
making like 7-8 hundred, all clean, probably like 80.
2:24:16
Yeah. 80. It's just because. 7080.
2:24:19
It's the car itself, especially. If I converted it to AVV 160,
2:24:23
the factory 6 speed and did all that other little stuff, I mean
2:24:27
maybe even more because it was a it was.
2:24:30
AI did not know that. Yeah, it was white too.
2:24:33
That's not super common. Because I remember when these
2:24:35
cars were like 40 and that was expensive.
2:24:37
Yeah, my I had a friend with one in high school.
2:24:39
I was like 17 and we just go drive around his Mark 4 Supra.
2:24:43
Let's see like like. I well.
2:24:47
I got to, I got to ride one, you know what I'm saying?
2:24:49
Drunk off the four loco. I was in one, I think.
2:24:51
I've been in one of those. I mean my my corny favorite
2:24:54
cars, R34 GTR. And like two years ago when I
2:24:56
saw those prices, I was like, well, not getting one of those.
2:24:59
Ever. And they are nice.
2:25:00
I just tuned to GTT at the shop and it's a step up from a 33.
2:25:06
I like 30 threes a lot too. I like 30 threes.
2:25:08
But 30 twos? I don't know.
2:25:10
They feel like just the same tin can that an S13.
2:25:12
Yeah. Like thank you.
2:25:13
For the amount of money I can't justify.
2:25:15
I do not like R30 twos, I just call them Fat Ass Chassis. 30
2:25:19
fours are. Pretty nice.
2:25:21
Car from the others. But I still feel like I'm in a
2:25:23
maxima from 2006 when I'm in R34.
2:25:25
I don't feel like I'm much better.
2:25:26
Yeah, I don't feel like I'm in $100,000 car.
2:25:28
Right. Yeah, still for the rate for
2:25:30
what they're going for, I would buy an R35, all that which.
2:25:33
Sucks 'cause I really hate those cars, but yeah.
2:25:35
I used to love them one day when I was a kid and I saw one for
2:25:38
the first time because I was like, Oh my God, the GTR
2:25:41
stateside. Like I don't know anything about
2:25:43
Skylines. They go firmly against what I
2:25:46
like in a car, but just a for a nice, fun, fast daily driver.
2:25:51
Yeah, maybe it's the eight, maybe the age is setting in, but
2:25:54
I'm like all drive automatic. Just get in and step on the the
2:25:58
gas and it goes. The age is setting in.
2:26:00
But you know what? It I feel like.
2:26:03
I don't like right hand drive, so that's the one downside for
2:26:05
the R34 for me, because I fucking hate driving right hand
2:26:07
drive here because it's just like everything's fucked.
2:26:09
I'm like, I can't see behind. I, you know, I can't go to
2:26:13
McDonald's. I'm just problem.
2:26:14
I'm. I'm sorry.
2:26:15
I'm totally just thinking about the first time I saw an R35 GTR.
2:26:18
Like the fucking. I just totally removed that car
2:26:22
was so cool when it came out here.
2:26:24
Now that I think about it, there was nothing before.
2:26:26
That. They were really techie.
2:26:27
They were definitely like, they look futuristic, yeah.
2:26:30
And there was They came. Out.
2:26:31
My first thought was they're not stick shift.
2:26:34
That was it. Yeah, that it was automatic.
2:26:36
I didn't like it immediately as a kid.
2:26:38
And now I'm like, yeah, I could drive around normal.
2:26:41
I've also gotten the drive in tune a variety of cars with dual
2:26:45
clutch translations and now I'm like this is actually pretty
2:26:48
sweet. It's.
2:26:48
Sweet. That was going to be the one
2:26:50
thing. The first time I drove one of
2:26:51
those and I got on the gas and I felt the clutch, like, engaged.
2:26:55
I was like, OK, that was kind of cool.
2:26:57
Once you've it feels like a manual.
2:26:58
Yeah, it feels like a manual. And it shifts so incredibly
2:27:01
fast. They come back to my friend at
2:27:04
red Races, Eric Magnusson Mainline Motorsports.
2:27:08
He has an E46M3 and he wanted to go to class up so he was LS3 but
2:27:13
he wanted to use an E9 E 90 DCT 7 speed with it.
2:27:18
Looked around a little bit, different trans controllers,
2:27:20
decided to go with a Max ECU to do both and it also works with
2:27:25
the BMWABSI think that was a big factor, I forget if that was.
2:27:30
That was like a thing that had to be.
2:27:32
Yeah, he wants. He wants that.
2:27:35
I forget heard. That so he's got a BMW trans.
2:27:37
It was, yeah. The seven speed DCT with a
2:27:39
cammed LS3 and he still had the 444 rear gear in it.
2:27:43
So 7th gear is 1 to 1. So that's short gearing,
2:27:47
especially with 400 horsepower and 400 torque.
2:27:50
Maybe even more. Once the Cam was in an holy shit
2:27:52
bananas dude and it was shift so you just stomp the throttle.
2:27:56
Just Bah Bah Bah Bah Bah. Every gear just fuck straight up
2:27:59
to limiter and 7th like it was so fast.
2:28:01
That's here's here's. Something this would be kind of
2:28:03
fun in A streetcar. It didn't work out.
2:28:05
I thought it would overheat 2030 minutes into a into a race.
2:28:09
He's back to AT56. But that that was one of the
2:28:13
experiences where I was like, all right, these, these, these
2:28:16
dual clutch transmissions are pretty rad.
2:28:17
My brother has a fucking Kia Forte, OK, OK.
2:28:22
It's the first one in the He's the first one out of the
2:28:24
siblings to like get a new car because he hurt his back and he
2:28:27
was like, I can't fucking be out of work because I can't work on
2:28:30
the car and get to work. So he bought a new car.
2:28:32
It's a Kia, but it's a Keo with a dual clutch trans and like,
2:28:37
it's somewhat peppy of a car weirded me out.
2:28:40
I was like, yo, why did you do that?
2:28:42
He's like, dude, I just drive around normal now and if I wanna
2:28:45
fucking like just flip around for a little bit, the dual
2:28:47
clutch trans impress the shit out of me.
2:28:50
And that's just a normal it's probably everyday car.
2:28:53
That's probably 2000. I see tons of art technology in
2:28:56
that fucking thing. And like, it's it's like
2:28:58
entertaining like I'm like, wow, this is like, what?
2:29:02
Time. Yeah, I feel like I'd love to
2:29:03
just have that and you know, attach some cool sounding engine
2:29:06
to it, like a Jay-Z or something and have Oh yeah, battles and
2:29:09
just imagine them in AGT. Car.
2:29:10
So I never So I never gave a shit about any of that shit,
2:29:14
really. Like, I knew it was cool, but
2:29:15
like I it's still not enough. Then I saw, wasn't it Dai
2:29:18
Yoshihara's car or something? Did you see that on YouTube?
2:29:21
Check this out on YouTube. It's AI think he he had Grady
2:29:24
build him like an R33, but they have some kind of crazy fucking.
2:29:28
Sequential in it. Yeah dude.
2:29:30
So that's another add that to the it's got answer to the
2:29:33
question cars that have really cool transmissions like
2:29:36
sequential especially if I can put a strain gauge on it and let
2:29:40
the ECU do an ignition cut. So like a a dog engagement
2:29:43
transmission will go into any gear it.
2:29:45
Was that with an air shifter in this car?
2:29:48
That's. Dude, I don't know.
2:29:49
Bro, I don't watch car videos. I saw that.
2:29:52
I was like, I need to watch this.
2:29:53
You watching him drive that shit and just you hear the RB and
2:29:56
then he just fucking boom boom. That might be another way to
2:29:59
phrase this question. Is like cars that ruin you
2:30:01
forever. Like you get into a car with a
2:30:03
sequential gearbox. Like you can I I posted a video
2:30:07
a while ago. It's an H pattern, G Force and
2:30:09
Tony's car. But like As for an example of a
2:30:11
dog, that's an age pattern but for a dog engagement
2:30:13
transmission. The second it unloads you can
2:30:16
pull to the next gear. You don't have to lift off,
2:30:18
throttle or anything. I just I hit it in first gear
2:30:21
and pull back as soon as it touches Rev limit, boom, second
2:30:24
gear push forward and just hold it forward the whole time. 3rd,
2:30:28
4th actual. Stick.
2:30:30
Or it's a It's AG force, force, speed.
2:30:32
Like what's in every drift car. Yeah, a lot of NASCAR back.
2:30:36
So he yeah, I don't know what trans they had in this car, but
2:30:38
he they did have the option to use.
2:30:40
They They had I. Don't think it was AH Pad, I
2:30:42
think it was a regular. If it's air shifted, it can it
2:30:45
can auto. Dude, it was just a cool setup.
2:30:47
I was like, I would. I would.
2:30:49
Fucking goose. He's got that Samson as shit.
2:30:53
Maybe that's no, it was. Die Kangushi has the older Die
2:30:56
has a crazy one too, but I know which one you're talking about.
2:30:59
I don't know what it is but. You got to watch those videos.
2:31:01
That shit was crazy. Matt Predmore had first a
2:31:04
Samsona and then an HTK. Samsonas you can read online
2:31:09
enabled an HTK. 2. JVTI GT40 GTX 40 or something
2:31:18
6700 on ethanol just car and. Just.
2:31:24
Like I. Need this transmission.
2:31:27
Dude, the driveline noise. When it's like, intentional,
2:31:31
Yeah, when it's intentional noise, it's sick.
2:31:35
I say intentional because this my trans made.
2:31:37
That noise for a little while. And it was because I was, I set
2:31:41
the clutch up wrong and it was just, I'm like, yo, yeah, this
2:31:46
is broken. I mean, I guess that's kind of
2:31:48
cool because maybe it's something is cooler with paddle
2:31:52
shifting and air shifting, 'cause I always just think
2:31:55
clutch is like. I mean, you can even too cool.
2:31:58
You can have a a DCT and throw a clutch pedal in with an
2:32:01
electronic switch and it'll disengage so you can treat it.
2:32:05
Like a clutch kick, yeah. There's a couple people doing
2:32:07
that now. Yeah, I've heard of that.
2:32:09
Yeah. Those BMW transmissions are
2:32:12
fucking sick too. Yeah, the ones you're talking
2:32:13
about, Yeah. And they're cheap.
2:32:15
They're actually, yeah, you can do that for.
2:32:17
Isn't that a? Reasonable price.
2:32:19
A ZF still. I don't know what transit is,
2:32:21
but I'm just thinking of like the newer like.
2:32:23
A No, no no. The.
2:32:24
Newer I heard is not actually a dual clutch.
2:32:29
Yeah, that's. Something like conventional
2:32:31
auto, that's the 88, the ZF80HP, it's in everything.
2:32:35
That's what's in like the new super, uh, the newer BMWs.
2:32:38
It shifts ultra fast. Couple companies have figured
2:32:40
out how to control it, so there's more options coming to
2:32:45
the aftermarket. Harnessing the energy.
2:32:48
Yeah, and that's why like you know, a super will make with a
2:32:52
tune down pipe intake, you know like 400 horse and 4:50 to 500
2:32:58
torque. Depends on how aggressive you
2:33:00
get. Casually.
2:33:01
Just a little over 400, right up towards 500 torque.
2:33:06
They are so fast just because of the transmission.
2:33:08
They're real. They have really good
2:33:10
aerodynamics, they're real slippery.
2:33:11
But that transmission makes anything feel way faster than
2:33:15
it. Is so interesting.
2:33:18
Yeah, no, people are using those, and I've been seeing them
2:33:20
a lot more. I just realized Rich asked a
2:33:23
bunch of questions here. Let's see what Rich is up to.
2:33:25
I heard Rich has an awesome lawn mower.
2:33:28
I heard Rich was supposed to come on this podcast.
2:33:30
When you coming on, Rich? I've noticed that when you bully
2:33:33
people they don't come. They don't come.
2:33:34
So maybe stop doing that. Rich please come on the podcast.
2:33:37
Rich I'm. Just going to keep bullying you.
2:33:40
Other than drinking and driving, what are your other hobbies?
2:33:43
That's terrible. That's really about it.
2:33:48
You ever see those videos on Instagram now where it's like,
2:33:51
fucking? I don't think.
2:33:52
Driving more fun and it's like. Yeah.
2:33:56
I think I sent them that one earlier today.
2:33:58
I was going to say your meme game is pretty fucking good.
2:34:01
Man, yeah. Sometimes I think like my
2:34:03
account is slowly trending more towards a business account.
2:34:07
But also treading towards a meme account.
2:34:08
Share. Yeah.
2:34:09
Sense in my story, Yeah. Good engagements.
2:34:12
I don't know. I think I want to keep doing it.
2:34:14
Dude, you. I don't know where you get your
2:34:15
memes from, but they're like deep cut memes that you don't
2:34:18
see. Like, they're not general pop
2:34:20
memes. Some stuff.
2:34:21
I used to go to Reddit a lot for some, but I think I've I've
2:34:23
trained my Instagram algorithm to the point where I get
2:34:26
insanity on. It Are you getting cartel gram?
2:34:29
Cartel Gram what's? That no.
2:34:31
You mean like where you just seen people get killed all?
2:34:33
Day. No, no.
2:34:34
Cartel gram is like, I don't fucking know.
2:34:37
Diego keeps sending it and now it's all over my timeline like
2:34:41
it's a fucking video of like, drone missiles getting made.
2:34:46
Why the fuck do I need this on my timeline?
2:34:48
And all the comments are like. Like the American military
2:34:51
military industrial complex. And then the then the comments.
2:34:54
Why am I getting this on my timeline like?
2:34:56
There's. Other people concerned and or
2:34:58
it's like cartel gram or it's like pill pressing like why am I
2:35:02
seeing this? OK, that makes more sense for
2:35:04
cartel gram. I guess or like Cessna videos
2:35:07
all the ingredients. Andy's just got meme gram but
2:35:12
like. What kind of memes?
2:35:13
You get on Reddit, you know there's that's where they start.
2:35:16
If you go on Reddit, you see all the memes that are on the meme
2:35:19
pages on Instagram. Like just two days sooner.
2:35:22
That's what. That's what I've heard, yeah.
2:35:24
But now I feel like it's rotating around because my
2:35:27
friend Dan loves Reddit. He'll send me shit.
2:35:30
And I'm like, dude, I saw yesterday on Instagram, Come on
2:35:33
bro, get with, get with the times.
2:35:34
It's like I feel like it's slowly wrong.
2:35:36
He's sorting by top. You gotta go new.
2:35:39
You gotta you gotta check. I wish I could remember one of
2:35:41
the memes he had. But dude, they're good.
2:35:42
Like you just follow him. Because of the memes at least,
2:35:45
yeah. Favorite.
2:35:46
Favorite. Wait, are we gonna call like
2:35:48
answer or that question answer? I would say yeah.
2:35:51
I mean, he loves transmissions. That's it.
2:35:53
Oh wait, what was the other? Question What are other hobbies?
2:35:57
Aside from drinking and driving, there was nothing about
2:35:59
transmissions. I have, yeah.
2:36:02
I don't have much time other than if I'm not working my day
2:36:06
job or tuning, I try to put my cars together.
2:36:09
Oh OK, Like my drift car's still not wired up, so I need to spend
2:36:15
some time doing that. It's just cold.
2:36:16
It's cold ish dude. You don't even don't even got
2:36:18
it. You don't got to fucking tell me
2:36:20
twice. Even have a heater and I'm like,
2:36:21
yeah, I have to get cold before it warms up.
2:36:24
I don't know about all that. That's Karl's struggle.
2:36:26
Right now I hate that shit. Next follow up question from
2:36:31
Rich. How much do you love Sr. 20s?
2:36:33
I guess like a one to 10 scale. Is it like a 12?
2:36:36
So. Let's say.
2:36:38
I've sold this on, you know, I thought I might actually get
2:36:41
asked something like this today. Like favorite engine or
2:36:43
something. Yeah, I mean, the best engine is
2:36:45
the one that fits your goals well.
2:36:48
Most importantly being inside of your budget.
2:36:51
Like see, too many like S Rs. I had Sr. swapped S chassis, but
2:36:57
I'd spend like $2000 on putting an Sr. in an S14.
2:37:00
Now you can't. I had an S14 like Cos 2A, Apexi
2:37:03
coils, exhaust, intercooler intake, S15, SRHKS clutch All
2:37:10
said and done I was $4400 another car.
2:37:13
That's crazy. You know, because I bought one,
2:37:17
I traded. I traded for an automatic KA
2:37:19
base model, but it was clean. No rust, no accidents, super
2:37:24
clean. And then I bought a rusted out
2:37:29
car that had all the aftermarket parts on it and I mean falling
2:37:32
apart. Combined with two.
2:37:34
And yeah, I put side by side in the garage and I swapped
2:37:37
everything cool from the one everything stocked from the
2:37:40
other. Sold the one automatic KA
2:37:43
falling apart from rust. Well, actually, I traded it for
2:37:46
an Audi A4, but then I had and I should have never, I should have
2:37:51
just kept that car, You know, I sold it.
2:37:55
That sounds like a come up I would.
2:37:57
Under $5000 for a S15 Sr. swap 240.
2:38:00
I'm sure the thing would have been just fine still today if I
2:38:03
just kept it, but you know. Nowadays, that's 15 grand, 20
2:38:08
grand. Why would I ever spend that
2:38:09
like? So I said my, my, my VQ ended up
2:38:12
in cost up 'cause that's 14. Initially he was looking at the
2:38:17
turbulent KA, Priced it out. You know, you go with the 5K
2:38:20
pretty quick, yeah, unless you're buying used stuff and
2:38:23
throwing something together, which he didn't, you know,
2:38:25
didn't want to throw something together.
2:38:26
You'd have to constantly be replacing stuff or you know,
2:38:30
dealing with stuff that didn't work.
2:38:31
But so looking at like new parts, as you know, cheaper new
2:38:35
parts, Nothing too fancy, like Borg Runner, Turbo Cast
2:38:39
Manifold, nothing exotic. Mega Squirt, ECU.
2:38:43
But I ended up since I was taking the VQ and CD out of my
2:38:48
car. I'm like well look at it this
2:38:50
way. You get 250 wheel horsepower,
2:38:52
250 wheel torque and the better transmission and I sold it to
2:38:59
him for less. It's about the going rate a
2:39:02
little cheap but for what he sold his KA and trans for You
2:39:05
can buy Ade with CD all day and then he bought mounts at ISR
2:39:10
makes headers at ISR makes. All said and done is 2500 bucks
2:39:14
250 horsepower. It's at least 100 more than the
2:39:17
K made. But it sounds like a VQ.
2:39:19
It does sound like the Devil's Trumpet.
2:39:21
It's not great, but have you heard an Sr. with with ISR blast
2:39:25
pipes? Yeah, that is.
2:39:28
I will just say it don't. That is worse.
2:39:30
No, it's not. It is.
2:39:31
It's not. Horrible.
2:39:32
It is not worse, but. Except for when it's like not
2:39:35
doing this like. You could make a.
2:39:37
VQ Worse type of shit. You don't need to have that
2:39:40
raspy, terrible exhaust. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:39:43
You can pick something that's not.
2:39:44
Much better. And it doesn't have to go out
2:39:47
that far. You know what I mean?
2:39:49
You know when they make it like this?
2:39:50
Far The ankle killer. What is it?
2:39:52
The ankle fucking. We had a name for that back
2:39:54
then. For me, I'm just like we were.
2:39:56
Just walking to that in the pits.
2:39:57
What if you had to like wall drag and or what if you wanted
2:40:00
to like wall drag something? Oh yeah, you're no, the exhaust
2:40:02
is coming off. Somebody had that at E Town,
2:40:05
like got hung up in someone's front wheel.
2:40:06
It was following them and then it was pointing out directly.
2:40:10
I mean just I remember Justin's only stuck out like this much
2:40:13
from his bumper and that shit got hit the wall and fucking
2:40:16
came off and just dragging the whole way like it doesn't take
2:40:19
much. Blast pipes look cool though.
2:40:22
I will say that. To an extent.
2:40:24
Back on the Sr. thing, Ave. head on one of those is it fixes
2:40:29
basically everything I don't like about that engine.
2:40:31
OK. It's the problem is rockers the
2:40:36
the Det heads are just knock prone.
2:40:38
Yeah, you. A ported VE head.
2:40:41
It might as well be AK-20 like it.
2:40:43
Why do you say they're knock prone?
2:40:45
They just they love to detonate the swish.
2:40:47
Pads and all that bullshit up there.
2:40:49
Yeah, I think the quench areas you see a lot of the ported
2:40:51
heads of those all smoothed out. But how many SRS have you taken
2:40:54
apart that look all like dinged up pie panned inside.
2:40:56
You know the head gasket won't even seal anymore because the
2:40:59
fire rings this. The deck of the block will pound
2:41:03
it out and then from detonation. Yeah, I know the deck of a block
2:41:06
is pretty suspect around where they around where it combusts, I
2:41:10
guess. Always looks like the metal's
2:41:11
just eroding away, but. Yeah, it's just.
2:41:13
That's from Ping Knock debt, whatever.
2:41:15
Yeah, most of the time. But VE heads not that sensitive.
2:41:21
I know it's it's a pretty cool mod, but it's just it's
2:41:24
especially nowadays so. But again that that doesn't help
2:41:26
the price that's. Yeah.
2:41:27
You're still spending way more money than you'd have to with
2:41:31
plenty of other options out there.
2:41:32
So your answer is really, whatever is the right answer
2:41:35
for. Yeah, the right engine for that,
2:41:37
Yeah. Sr. is not my favorite engine,
2:41:39
but I would be. Depending on What Car I had, I
2:41:42
would have a different answer. Wait, you gotta say one to 10
2:41:44
though? Where's?
2:41:44
Where's the Sr. stand? Hmm.
2:41:50
It's lightweight. I mean, it makes good power,
2:41:52
it's pretty easy and it lives if you treat it right.
2:41:54
You're in an Sr. shop right now. I wanna put it, I'll put it
2:41:57
pretty high up. I don't give it like A6 or A7.
2:42:01
Okay, you're at 7:00. Yeah, I don't. 7 is.
2:42:04
Disclaimer I'm not a big fan of of four cylinders no, that's why
2:42:08
Yeah yeah sounds 2 liter turbo was.
2:42:10
You're a six cylinder guy. But that but.
2:42:12
I'm less into, yeah V6V8 inline 6V10.
2:42:17
I'd love to see more of those. The Evo 4 cylinder sound though
2:42:20
is just not like the same. You know what I mean?
2:42:22
It definitely it has this like crazier sound to me because the
2:42:25
gearing and it just hits like so much differently.
2:42:28
It's just. Evo Everyone always wants that
2:42:30
Evo sound. They're pretty rat.
2:42:32
You just put an upgraded turbo on them, run like 26 or 27 lbs
2:42:36
of boost on pump gas and they're fine and just make 500 on pump.
2:42:40
Yep. If you could do it with an Sr.
2:42:41
So that's the other thing. I started with that.
2:42:43
Then I was like, these things blow up for nothing.
2:42:46
Like that sucks. Yeah, it does suck.
2:42:49
If you could crack them up like that and abuse them like a 4G,
2:42:52
I'd have a total different. Rating Sorry Carl, Real quick CA
2:42:54
18. What are your opinions?
2:42:56
It's like you take the worst aspects of the RB and the Sr.
2:42:59
And put them on one and then give it less displacement than
2:43:04
it deserves. Yeah.
2:43:05
It's so tiny on the stick. If that was a 2O, what would you
2:43:07
think of it? Oh man, I don't know.
2:43:11
The head sucks, I guess, right? Is that what it?
2:43:12
Is RB heads aren't bad. OK, And that's basically what
2:43:15
that is. Yeah, but.
2:43:17
The whole thing is an RB when I. Yeah, as soon as they cut them
2:43:20
the two, everything about the casting looks the same.
2:43:23
I wonder if they're strong. I don't know if they're
2:43:25
actually. Like I just thought it looked
2:43:27
so. Cute.
2:43:27
Ever have a way to find out if it would ever make enough power
2:43:30
to hurt itself? They're OK.
2:43:33
I mean, the car came in, you know, that's pretty cool.
2:43:38
Yeah. Like a silly.
2:43:40
Lady, yeah. That'd be something, or 180SX,
2:43:43
whatever. Yeah, I don't know man.
2:43:45
Something about the CA it it keeps me interested in it, but I
2:43:49
don't know. I kind of like, like, yeah, I
2:43:52
like things that just work, you know, more of like a function
2:43:55
over form type. But there's definitely something
2:43:58
to, you know, something nostalgic about.
2:44:00
Yeah. Error.
2:44:02
Correct stuff, you know, especially if you're more Street
2:44:05
car like. Yeah, exactly something.
2:44:07
In the car, that's what it should be.
2:44:09
Yeah, you don't need an air shifter on it or anything, yeah.
2:44:12
This one's from Sean. Ask Andy about his camper
2:44:15
trailer rig and why it's the best.
2:44:18
Do you have one of these things too?
2:44:20
I just have. So I got a when I thought I was
2:44:23
going to be drifting again. It's like I can't do sleeping in
2:44:26
the truck cab like I used to sleeping in the race car and I
2:44:30
have two dogs. So it's more for the dogs, you
2:44:33
know? They got to have somewhere to
2:44:34
hang out. And not get the heat.
2:44:35
So I got a slide in truck bed camper.
2:44:39
Like the one where it like is the shape of it.
2:44:42
Yeah, I just like you. Just back under.
2:44:43
It and then drop it down. It's.
2:44:44
On Jacks, yeah. I don't know if more people
2:44:49
don't do it. That would tote.
2:44:51
With the like, the Dooley has plenty of capacity and it's just
2:44:55
regular form. I got a it took me a little
2:44:58
while. I got kind of lucky.
2:44:59
I was looking for a very specific model that has a
2:45:03
generator and a bathroom. So it has a shower and
2:45:05
everything in it and cannot say enough about getting done
2:45:09
pulling into your pit and just hop in the camper and take a
2:45:12
shower. That's crazy fucking great.
2:45:14
And even if I'm parked right next to the shower as a Club
2:45:17
Lewis or whatever, it's still better.
2:45:18
Yeah, I just walk. Around somebody took a full
2:45:21
blown shit in there this past. Year, right.
2:45:23
You don't have to worry about. Land mines.
2:45:25
Land mines. No.
2:45:27
Take a shower. Walk around naked in my camper,
2:45:30
Grab a cold beer out of the fridge, hang out in there.
2:45:33
All right. Note to self Don't be looking
2:45:34
those, yeah. Knock on Andy, I don't have
2:45:37
trailer before you fucking go in.
2:45:39
Look through the windows at your own risk, yeah?
2:45:41
That's insane. That's cool though.
2:45:43
And then AC, even between sessions on a hot summer day,
2:45:49
get in there and it's 60 something degrees.
2:45:51
Unreal. Fuck, I feel like and it was,
2:45:53
you know, you can get those 4/4 to $6000, you get something like
2:45:57
that. But that's the goal I need to
2:45:59
now I have a utility body that traded my stock dually bed for
2:46:03
utility body. Need to cut it down and modify
2:46:06
it a bit so the camper will fit into it right?
2:46:08
That's about your truck, so utilize the.
2:46:10
You're trying to keep the use of some of it.
2:46:13
So I'm just adding storage space so I can carry like extra fuel
2:46:16
for my generator fans for the dyno.
2:46:19
So when I can, you know, ideally I'll be able to go somewhere
2:46:23
like up here, or you know, if I can tune to E Town again and
2:46:27
just show up with the dyno sleeping the camper there.
2:46:30
Yeah, that would be a. Set up.
2:46:31
I'm just. I'm slowly turning into a carny,
2:46:34
yeah. You're an overlander but Tuning
2:46:37
edition. I'm just like a horsepower
2:46:39
carny. Honestly.
2:46:42
Fucking good for you, dude. I know Nomad.
2:46:44
If I. Could work full remed.
2:46:46
In my day job I would try to buy a bigger camper and yeah, do I
2:46:49
go to You're going this time of year, just keep tuning all year.
2:46:53
The cars you know follow wherever the season's only.
2:46:55
You think you'll end up doing that, or you think that's still
2:46:57
just the, the, the? Man, I'm always back and forth
2:47:01
between those two ideas. Like I did the full time work at
2:47:05
Freedom Tune for two years, try it out, get away from the
2:47:09
corporate thing. Just like, oh this soul sucking
2:47:12
corporate job. Then when I'm not there, doesn't
2:47:14
take long and I'm like, you know, it's really nice to just
2:47:16
have benefits and chill and working on cars is a huge pain
2:47:19
in the ass. Yeah.
2:47:21
Thank you for that. I have a desk job.
2:47:25
I. Dude, And now I'm back on my
2:47:27
desk job all the time. I'm like, you know, maybe I
2:47:29
could just tune full time. Dude.
2:47:31
But I don't think I get away from doing.
2:47:33
I don't know if I can get away from doing both.
2:47:35
Your little, your little solution earlier where it was
2:47:38
like remote full time, yeah that would be with your mobile dyno.
2:47:44
I'm three days in office right now.
2:47:46
For a long time I was full remote, but my work's pretty
2:47:49
flexible. I feel like if I was like, it's
2:47:51
winter, I don't go to Florida, you know, for a month.
2:47:55
I think they work with me. I don't know.
2:47:56
That's across that bridge when we get there.
2:47:58
Dude, that's pretty good. So you might you might just do.
2:48:01
Both. If you could do full.
2:48:02
Remote. I think you could we could talk
2:48:04
about that after we don't want. I I don't like I don't like
2:48:07
putting that too much in the airwaves.
2:48:08
But I did want to. This is the 4th time I think
2:48:12
that this person has asked this question.
2:48:14
I think and it's it's unfortunately not for the guest
2:48:16
but known of B2K. How did Frankie and Carl meet?
2:48:19
This time? It's in all caps.
2:48:20
I'm assuming it's the urgency. I was buying head studs.
2:48:22
I met Frankie. I also saw Frankie on the
2:48:24
highway once when he was driving his S13.
2:48:27
And other than that, I just met you through Chris.
2:48:29
That's it. Yeah, I I remember when I think
2:48:31
about you, I think about you and Chris.
2:48:33
You guys are always together in my mind.
2:48:36
You, Chris, brought me here. I was scared shitless.
2:48:38
There was that black leather couch that was out there.
2:48:40
Everyone was sitting there. Yes, it was it.
2:48:43
Was a casting code. It was not a black weapon, it.
2:48:45
Wasn't even black. It wasn't like that.
2:48:47
What color was it it? Was beige.
2:48:49
It was. Beige.
2:48:50
We found it in the street somewhere and just threw it in
2:48:52
here. Regardless, Miyagi and them were
2:48:54
sitting there. Everybody was wearing black.
2:48:57
Everybody was like kind of hanging out.
2:48:59
Everybody was way more happier back then.
2:49:01
Not really like, Yeah, like you guys were chilling like it was.
2:49:04
Cool. Because it that's because it
2:49:05
wasn't a business. It was.
2:49:06
Cool. To be here like I was like, Oh
2:49:08
my gosh, like was. This back in like, 2016?
2:49:11
Yeah, that's when. Happy memories.
2:49:12
Came a little bit before that. 1617.
2:49:14
Like everything sucks. 15/20/16. Yeah, that was.
2:49:18
It that was definitely. It like Fetty Wap Trap Queen
2:49:21
just came out. 17. Oh yeah dude. 16 or 17 is when
2:49:25
we got this spot, so it was definitely around then.
2:49:28
But sixteen I. Think those were the good?
2:49:30
Times I was buying head studs from Frankie and I thought that
2:49:33
it was kind of cool maybe that there was like a place for me to
2:49:37
buy head studs. Yeah, I think.
2:49:39
Chris had to transact 'cause I was nervous as fuck.
2:49:42
That's all you know. There's something to brick and
2:49:44
mortar. Yeah, I've always been into
2:49:46
that. But I as the years went on
2:49:48
through me having my own business, I was like, it seems
2:49:50
like it's more and more impossible to have a fucking
2:49:52
speed shop or something. I don't know if you can make any
2:49:54
money at it, but it is, yeah. You know, even when I first got
2:49:58
in, that wasn't an option. I never, you know, it's always
2:50:00
buy stuff online now it's easy to buy stuff online, so.
2:50:02
That's way too easy too be kind. Of cool to go.
2:50:04
Just look at things like it's a mall for.
2:50:07
Auto parts, that's kind of what we're going for at this point.
2:50:09
Speaking of which, have you ever seen or heard of the Morgantown
2:50:12
Auto Mall? The what?
2:50:14
It's old. It used to be called like Mom's
2:50:15
Mall. It was actual shopping mall and
2:50:20
something with like Mannheim auction was going to buy it.
2:50:23
So the landlord asked the businesses to move out.
2:50:28
Deal fell through. Now he's got an empty mall.
2:50:30
So now you just you can store or sell your cars on consignment in
2:50:35
the mall and all the stores are just full of all kinds of
2:50:38
classic You name every car. Where is this PA?
2:50:41
Morgantown. Where the fuck is that?
2:50:44
Morgantown, PA. Like if you're headed to
2:50:47
freedom. Like another exit off the
2:50:50
Turnpike. And people just bring their cars
2:50:52
there and they just leave them inside.
2:50:53
Dude, it's. You can if you just want to
2:50:55
store your car not in the front display area.
2:50:57
It's just somewhere in the back. You know, mall wings of the
2:51:00
mall, inside climate controlled. It's like 130 bucks a month,
2:51:05
100. And 40 bucks a month.
2:51:06
Mega cheap for climate controlled storage.
2:51:10
So there's just and then there's stuff stored outside too.
2:51:12
Just wild stuff, you know, like boats, trucks, all kinds of
2:51:15
weirdness. Every local, like weirdo car guy
2:51:18
that's been collecting stuff forever, like has something
2:51:20
stored. There there's places like that
2:51:22
here like. I don't want to say where it is,
2:51:23
but. Yeah, I think I know you're.
2:51:25
Talking about, you know what I'm talking.
2:51:26
About this place Saturday, Sunday open to the public.
2:51:28
Go there like 8 to one at 1:00 PM or 8:00 AM or 1:00 PM on the
2:51:31
weekend and you can just go browse.
2:51:34
That's a YouTube video right there.
2:51:36
Oh, it'd be great for that. Tell me know when you're going.
2:51:38
Dude, let's go the. Casino across the street we.
2:51:40
Can. Let's go, Let's go.
2:51:42
Let's go. Just make a whole day out of no
2:51:43
no. No, no.
2:51:44
Because we've been playing blackjack at night, like in the
2:51:46
Faction court. It's crazy.
2:51:47
Oh really? Yeah.
2:51:48
But I do want to take a second to say thank you for coming by,
2:51:52
because I did want to say that you came from a few hours.
2:51:56
Away. And it is cold and the whole
2:51:59
heat, the no heat on the feet thing and the wiper thing.
2:52:03
Like fuck. And thank you for blessing us
2:52:05
with some serious knowledge. I got us.
2:52:08
I swear to you, this is probably the most one of the most
2:52:10
knowledgeable. Now when I look at Turbos
2:52:14
specifically, yeah, like I've asked that Question Time and
2:52:17
time again. I'm like, what the fuck do the
2:52:19
numbers? Mean and everyone's like, I
2:52:20
don't know. Bro, just get bigger ones like.
2:52:23
Just get the the bigger. Ones get the larger.
2:52:25
You get the small one. Yeah, like, but you ever?
2:52:29
Want because I also, you know, have a lot of different setups.
2:52:32
I could show you Dino graphs of Oh yeah, something that might be
2:52:36
like what you're looking for. Huh.
2:52:38
Because you've just seen. I know a lot of shit, probably
2:52:41
how many cars. Did you download?
2:52:43
Yeah. How roughly?
2:52:44
How many you think? My hard drive died last year, so
2:52:48
I lost a bunch of files that I didn't have backed up.
2:52:52
Like my entire history of tuning because I thought I had it
2:52:56
backed up. But that got I tried to download
2:52:58
that whole file off of Cloud Drive and it didn't work.
2:53:04
It was corrupt too. So I was like, well, that's all
2:53:06
of it. So I'm.
2:53:06
Sentimental. I would feel so.
2:53:08
Now I have a. Now I'm like a OneDrive.
2:53:11
Microsoft everything automatically is updated like
2:53:14
the way it was supposed to be the other drive.
2:53:16
Just hoping Microsoft OneDrive is more reliable.
2:53:19
We'll see but. Microsoft doesn't randomly get
2:53:21
taken over and then you lose everything.
2:53:24
Some sort of cyber attack? It's.
2:53:27
Probably bigger problems. Than you were.
2:53:28
Files but. Would you say it's like 1000?
2:53:32
Way more. Way more a year.
2:53:33
So this year? More than 1000.
2:53:35
This year and only so, I got my dyno back because I had the
2:53:38
trailer made over this last winter, I got it back mid June.
2:53:42
Between June and end of October, I think I tuned like 40 cars
2:53:49
just working Saturdays and Sundays and that's like not
2:53:52
every weekend. Yeah, I was going to say not
2:53:54
like fully. That's outside of my regular
2:53:57
full time job. So tuning spots get filled up
2:54:00
that quickly like. Yeah, I have like 7 or 8.
2:54:04
Months out waiting, right? Now.
2:54:05
Oh, OK, no, but I could, you know, Max will do like 3A day on
2:54:09
the weekend and if something doesn't go right, like you might
2:54:12
not get done and we're going to have to loop back around later
2:54:15
on the schedule or something. But yeah, so that's, you know,
2:54:18
you figure easy cars, five runs, difficult car might be like
2:54:23
maybe, I don't know, twenty runs multiplied by 40, that's like 5.
2:54:28
That's like 500 runs this year. Faction car with Power FC half
2:54:33
of. This.
2:54:33
Summer. I don't know, dude.
2:54:35
I was like, Waggers was fast, that was.
2:54:36
Like that was. He knows what he's doing you.
2:54:38
Guys, you guys had like there was like 4 power FCS there SRS
2:54:42
that day. It was just like I was running
2:54:44
the same tune like through every car.
2:54:46
Just do like a few runs, tweak it for that specific car.
2:54:50
Yeah, Wags was the last car in the dyno.
2:54:51
And you. That shit was good to go.
2:54:54
Like you guys were all like, yeah, everyone's like GT28S.
2:54:57
Yeah, like. Power.
2:54:58
You know, all similar cars. Really easy to crank those out.
2:55:02
We had some weird problems with Fuck, whose car was that?
2:55:04
I guess it was Wags's car. Ages car, remember?
2:55:06
Yeah. What was that car we had here
2:55:07
with? I think it was Wag.
2:55:09
It was Wags's car with the TPS. What the fuck was that problem?
2:55:12
Do you remember? Dude, I don't know if I ever
2:55:14
told you. About.
2:55:15
Oh, I remember that. Yeah, the TPS wasn't right.
2:55:17
Something with the TPS. They're flaky sometimes.
2:55:19
We got we got that R34 GTT. It had a weird fault on the link
2:55:25
for the TPS voltage dropping to the minimum and going to the
2:55:29
maximum. I think this was on.
2:55:31
Something got goofy there. This was our bad, but also
2:55:34
because I know Chris kept checking the TPS at the sensor.
2:55:37
Rotate it. It has to be in the right
2:55:39
window. And you.
2:55:40
But you can't check it at the sensor, you have to check it on
2:55:42
the computer. It needs to be plugged in.
2:55:45
Well, I mean the the reading it's you're getting on the
2:55:46
computer was way different than the reading we were getting on
2:55:49
the sensor. Depends on you have to be on the
2:55:51
sensor ground and yeah. It was weird it.
2:55:53
Could be different a little. Different, Yeah.
2:55:55
So we changed it and matched definitely.
2:55:56
Easier just if you have the commander, Yeah.
2:55:59
Sensors see what you're whatever they call it in there.
2:56:02
Yeah, that's kind of what we looked at.
2:56:04
And I was like, this doesn't seem like it's going to the
2:56:05
right thing. And then we changed that.
2:56:08
I drove it down the street and it was like a totally different
2:56:10
car. And I was like, bro, it was just
2:56:12
this fucking sensor. This whole time.
2:56:14
All we had to do was just, those are those problems where you're
2:56:17
like chasing your tail for everything.
2:56:19
We were checking the fuel system like.
2:56:21
Yeah, dude. And that's.
2:56:24
I see a lot of that. It started to get, especially
2:56:26
with doing the 2D and getting so used to like EFI systems, the
2:56:29
combination of stuff and like, oh, it doesn't seem to be
2:56:32
hitting the idle strategy right? Like the Excel fuel seems wrong.
2:56:35
Like the TPS sensor moves. Yeah, there'll be things that
2:56:38
like. You get used.
2:56:40
To it, I just recognize symptoms that have something in common
2:56:42
because it's the thing that I look at all the time.
2:56:45
I hate having you fix anything when I because when I bring a
2:56:47
car to a dyno like or what I assume a tuner wants, when the
2:56:50
car gets brought to a diner, dyno is they want everything to
2:56:53
just be ready to go, give you the car, you do it and it's
2:56:58
done. So we try our hardest to bring
2:56:59
the cars to you like that, but then.
2:57:01
There's always something, yeah, just don't be the guy that like
2:57:05
drops it off from and hits me up.
2:57:07
Says I have a customer that needs a tune.
2:57:08
Drops the car off beginning of the day when I have other stuff
2:57:12
on the schedule before that car, which they knew about, and left
2:57:15
it in front of the dyno trailer with no battery in it, having
2:57:18
never started up before and the kids just there.
2:57:21
He got dropped off with his car. Like, I hope I can drive at
2:57:24
home. I have no way home.
2:57:25
I live 2 hours away and it's a skyline so it has the, you know,
2:57:29
the Japanese little terminal. So I have to go cut the the
2:57:32
battery cables, but you know, as long as you're not that.
2:57:34
I try. I try to literally.
2:57:36
Be That sounds horrible like you're.
2:57:38
Probably doing that shit all the time too.
2:57:40
Common sense type of shit like. I don't like to be one of those
2:57:43
that make those posts too like I.
2:57:44
Don't. Yeah, you never do.
2:57:46
But you're you're an extremely pleasurable person to deal with.
2:57:49
I try to be laid back because I feel like on the flip side,
2:57:53
everybody, I hear a lot from other people.
2:57:54
They're like, it's so nice to go to a tuner that's not like.
2:57:57
Mad at the world? Yeah, it does happen.
2:57:59
Like, yeah, I try to stay pretty laid back and just like, yeah,
2:58:03
at the end of the day, like if I if your car is, I'm like, I can
2:58:07
do all this, but I'm going to charge you this an hour.
2:58:09
Yeah. And I don't have time for it
2:58:11
right now. So it's going to sit here for a
2:58:12
month. And yeah, that's all I can do.
2:58:15
Let's. I'll do it, you know, every day.
2:58:17
It's what? I was going to say is I hate
2:58:18
having you deal with anything, but then at the same time I'm
2:58:20
also like if Andy saw this problem right now, he probably
2:58:22
know the answer to it in fucking 10 seconds.
2:58:24
And then you feel like an idiot. People do message me a lot and
2:58:27
I've been thinking about I need this like collected FAQ
2:58:30
questions. Like get a lot, Yeah, do some
2:58:32
good tutorials or just even write.
2:58:34
I don't like to watch videos. I don't look at DIY videos.
2:58:38
I like to have like maybe have a website with just.
2:58:40
Yeah, if you had a website with AFA, like feels like a.
2:58:42
Quick write up. Or what to do before your Dino?
2:58:45
FAQ section Yeah, I definitely need the pre Dino.
2:58:48
Yeah, freedom. We have that freedom, We have
2:58:50
pre Dino Checklist. Yeah, they probably do an
2:58:51
inspection too. I.
2:58:52
Don't do a great job of sending that out, OK?
2:58:54
I should do better at that. I also don't.
2:58:55
I don't do a good job of get getting my waiver signed either.
2:58:58
But. That's probably a little more
2:59:01
important, yeah. Maybe step 1/2?
2:59:04
Yeah, I mean, what's it? The waiver's probably just like
2:59:06
if I blow this up, it's on you. Yeah, if anything, if your car
2:59:10
blows up on my dyno, you owe me to clean the dyno off.
2:59:13
That's great. It's not me.
2:59:16
I like that waiver. Because like obviously if that
2:59:19
happens, if I I work, I'm, I'm reasonable, but kind of protect
2:59:23
yourself against those people that aren't reasonable and I
2:59:26
don't know who's showing up, you know, so just try to keep it,
2:59:31
reduce liability where possible because that's all it would
2:59:34
take. Like, I'm not making any money
2:59:35
at this. Like I paid 40K for the trailer.
2:59:39
Yeah, I did not make 40K this year it I spent every weekend
2:59:44
tuning and it cost me money to do it.
2:59:46
Yeah, you're gonna. Be paying that off.
2:59:48
For a bit I could just sell it and have a cool car and not
2:59:51
drive around a truck with wipers stuck on with no.
2:59:55
But it'll it'll have a shower attached to it eventually.
2:59:58
It does it. Sometimes it has a shower.
3:00:00
I try to tell people that, too. It's like we're not really
3:00:02
making money here. I'm not making money, but I
3:00:03
mean, I'm hiring my friends and everyone's making a living and
3:00:07
we're OK and we're doing fun shit every day.
3:00:08
So fun laid back stuff you like to do so people think it's the
3:00:13
wrong impression that you know. If I'm sure you've seen it, they
3:00:16
have a bill racked up for like 15 K and it's 10K in parts,
3:00:21
yeah. They're like.
3:00:22
You bought these parts? Yeah, that's And stops don't
3:00:26
make a lot of money on parts. If if you're lucky, you get a
3:00:28
little margin as you should. But a lot of times you're trying
3:00:32
to match online pricing and stuff, which people don't
3:00:35
understand. There's there's some value in
3:00:37
the expertise of picking the right stuff, too.
3:00:39
I tell everyone, if you're talking aftermarket parts,
3:00:41
you're not making more than 30% ever and you're probably making
3:00:44
20% if or less. Your best bet For most suppliers
3:00:49
you might have 30% under retail, which you're probably going to
3:00:53
have to sell map exactly, and if you buy enough volume you might
3:00:57
hit 30% on a margin. That, yeah.
3:00:59
You have to have like. Price You're never going to sell
3:01:01
it. At and then they'll be like Oh
3:01:02
yeah, just just spend $20,000 with us and we'll give you 30%
3:01:05
off and we're like but what you sell exhaust like or something
3:01:10
like. Yeah, stuff you're not going to
3:01:11
buy in volume. Yeah.
3:01:12
So it's like and then you're then we just sit here and think
3:01:14
like oh should we do that just so we could say we're you know
3:01:17
so and so dealer and it's like. Sometimes I think we just get
3:01:20
into like, Porsches, yeah. That's where our buddy Ethan's
3:01:24
at right now. He just wants to sell everything
3:01:26
to get a Porsche. It's like. 3 Apropavic exhausts
3:01:28
for like 10K each. Yeah, you know, you're right.
3:01:30
Yeah, but then. But then at the same time, the
3:01:32
mark. Seriously.
3:01:33
Like, definitely more money involved, but the markup's still
3:01:36
probably fucking terrible. It's not bad, but you you have a
3:01:39
whole different level of. Clientele too.
3:01:42
It's got to be. Yeah.
3:01:43
Right. Yeah, it's definitely way better
3:01:46
for sure. But hey man, drifting's getting
3:01:49
bigger, so let's just keep going and see how see how this works
3:01:53
out. Yeah, that's why I figure if
3:01:54
people have 100K for a Mark 4 super.
3:01:56
Yeah, that's what I mean. They could, they could maybe pay
3:01:58
you a little bit more a. 100K for a GTRI mean they could
3:02:01
probably afford to do some nice work to.
3:02:04
It it's definitely a a decent time to be doing this stuff.
3:02:06
It's not the best time maybe. I don't know.
3:02:08
I feel like 2000, early 2000s might have been a better time.
3:02:11
I don't know. I didn't let Maybe I.
3:02:13
Don't know. I feel like everybody that was
3:02:14
in it was the same age as us back then.
3:02:16
Yeah, you know. I have any money even though I
3:02:19
liked all this stuff, so. Yeah, and everything I.
3:02:21
Wasn't buying as fuck too. So maybe it wasn't good.
3:02:23
I think we were all just figuring out how to do it
3:02:25
ourselves because we couldn't afford to go to any shops, Yeah,
3:02:27
and no shops were doing. It, yeah, that's.
3:02:29
The clientele couldn't. Exactly.
3:02:31
So it probably wasn't even that good.
3:02:32
Now was probably the best time. I'm glad I'm still living that
3:02:35
life keeps. Getting better.
3:02:36
Yeah, like kind of like carrying you guys as torture right now
3:02:39
for that because like I'm just free balling everything hoping
3:02:43
that God that I can there's still break everything.
3:02:45
There's still people like that, but I feel like there's not as
3:02:47
many. But maybe I'm wrong.
3:02:48
I like to absorb. I come in here, I watch what
3:02:51
Chris does for like maybe 20-30 minutes and the next time I work
3:02:54
on my car I'm like maybe more like Chris.
3:02:57
Yeah, well, do you see something he does or something and be
3:03:00
like, oh, that does work. I see Chris do shit still.
3:03:03
And I'm like, damn, I would have never thought of that.
3:03:06
That's just shit you learn from experience working with other
3:03:08
people in shops and stuff like that.
3:03:10
So yeah, but yeah, man. Anyway, thank you for coming
3:03:13
out. Yeah, thanks for having me.
3:03:14
Really appreciate it. And yeah, I'm sure Carl will be
3:03:17
hitting you up soon for. A Andy's mobile Dino.
3:03:19
Yeah. And shower.
3:03:20
Oh. Also, I was just kidding.
3:03:22
We got to shout out. Oh shit, yeah, shout out.
3:03:25
Beastie Boy E46 for sending me Oreos and Hostess Ding dongs.
3:03:31
They're not Ring Dings, but they'll do.
3:03:33
They're impossible, I told them all.
3:03:35
The dude. And his drift team is misery.
3:03:38
It's called Misery. They're from Missouri.
3:03:40
It's kind of a cool sticker. It's like a Milwaukee sticker
3:03:43
with Misery spell in a weird way.
3:03:45
Yeah, it's kind of cool, shout. Out, Beast boy.
3:03:47
Yo, he's stay feeding you and me.
3:03:48
He got me granola bars over. Here.
3:03:49
Yeah, check these guys out, Misery MIZZORI.
3:03:54
And thanks for the Oreos. All right.
3:03:56
Well, that covers today's. Episode Thank you guys so much
3:03:59
for listening. This has been Faction after
3:04:00
hours. What's your Instagram, Andy?
3:04:04
Andy's been with Dino. It actually is, yeah.
3:04:06
That's amazing. Follow at Andy's Mobile Dyno for
3:04:10
your mobile dyno needs. And for the memes.
3:04:13
And for the memes, All right. Bye That.
3:04:17
Is that it now? Where's the outro, Malcolm?
3:04:19
There's no outro. When are we going to pop the
3:04:22
bottle of Rosie? Did you just smell the mic?
3:04:35
I was curious. OK, that's fucking weird.
3:04:40
Well, that was fun. Yeah.
3:04:42
Smart guy. Yeah, too smart.
3:04:45
Genius. It went better than expected
3:04:47
because I thought it was just going to be him being way too
3:04:50
smart for everyone in this room. And then we're all just like.
3:04:53
Oh, what? But I forgot, Carl can literally
3:04:56
make a conversation with anyone. So yeah, it worked out.
3:04:59
We learned a lot of information and Andy was able to fix the
3:05:04
heat in his truck before he drove home.
3:05:05
So. Nice.
3:05:06
Yeah, so he wasn't freezing to death the whole way home.
3:05:08
Now the wipers, I don't know, maybe the wipers were still
3:05:10
going, but yeah, so I hope you guys enjoyed that one.
3:05:15
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3:05:17
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3:05:58
OK. But thanks guys.
3:06:02
What else we got going on? We got R Tech manifolds.
3:06:05
If you guys know this brand, you probably heard of it through
3:06:07
Jimmy Oaks or Adam LZ. But R Tech is a a exhaust
3:06:12
manifold brand from I believe Australia.
3:06:15
I hope I'm right with that, but somewhere down under fucking
3:06:18
Somewhere down under. Somewhere down under.
3:06:20
OK. I know you can do the accent.
3:06:24
I'm all right. There you go.
3:06:26
There you go. Yeah, somewhere down there.
3:06:30
I believe it's Australia, but they make some really good, high
3:06:32
quality manifold, so we're going to begin stocking those.
3:06:35
If anyone is interested, please. I don't want to say DM us, but I
3:06:39
know you're going to DM us anyway, so DM us or check out
3:06:44
our website or shoot us An e-mail. e-mail is best if you're
3:06:47
looking for something that's not on the website.
3:06:49
So we are placing that order probably in the next few days.
3:06:56
What else we got a lot of HPS. Lot of HPS, radiator hoses,
3:07:03
coolant hoses, whatever. Yeah, coolant hoses, radiator
3:07:07
hoses, there's even a Jay-Z kit. So if you have a Jay-Z and an
3:07:10
S13 or an S14, you know that finding the radiator hoses is
3:07:14
kind of a pain in the ass. So now we carry those swap
3:07:19
radiator hoses and we have an order coming in hopefully in the
3:07:24
next few weeks. So we will be stocking those as
3:07:26
well. Anything else?
3:07:30
I'm looking right now. Oh yeah, the Nissan VIN plate in
3:07:35
the engine Bay, the little clips that hold it in.
3:07:37
They're like rivets, but they're plastic.
3:07:39
We got those. We got those.
3:07:40
So $3.95 each, pretty good deal. Yeah, if you have to take that
3:07:46
plate off to paint the engine Bay or anything like that, now
3:07:49
you can get the replacement clips to put the VIN plate back
3:07:52
on instead of, you know, what we used to do is we just like put
3:07:55
painters tape around the whole thing.
3:07:56
But then it it never works out. You always get overspray on
3:08:00
something. Yeah, that looks like everything
3:08:04
as far as the website goes. I did want to mention that
3:08:09
Malcolm's best friend Eddie has been coming to the shop for the
3:08:12
last few weeks and he has been filming Random, basically just
3:08:16
anything that's been going on. Yeah, he just hangs out films
3:08:18
for us, takes photos and just tries to capture whatever we go
3:08:22
through on Mondays at least yesterday.
3:08:25
Was rough so. Yeah, yeah, you can see those
3:08:27
videos on the Patreon going to start posting stuff to the
3:08:31
YouTube. We just got to figure out a a
3:08:33
little schedule and a little content calendar to see what we
3:08:37
can, you know formulate for the YouTube but.
3:08:40
Yeah, so basically what's going on is if we don't have videos to
3:08:45
film on Monday and Eddie's coming, he's going to film a
3:08:47
vlog for the Patreon. So if you want to see more
3:08:50
behind the scenes footage from the shop and and stuff like that
3:08:53
and you know these videos, we're listening to music, everything
3:08:57
is good. Like we don't have to.
3:08:58
Watching Frankie work on his car.
3:09:00
Watching me work on my car for once, you know, so it's it's a
3:09:03
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