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Roselyn Sanchez on the Beauty of her 40’s and 50’s, Breaking Cycles, and Raising a Mini-me · How Hard Can It Be? with Diana Maria Riva

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  Speaker 1: If your life already included a successful career, a long marriage,
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  Speaker 1: a happy family, and even wearing a crown, would you
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  Speaker 1: say your best years were behind you? Not from an ex-guest.
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  Speaker 1: She swears that her 40s and 50s have been the
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  Speaker 1: beginning of her greatest hits. Today, we're talking about breaking
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  Speaker 1: the generational cycles, raising your mini-me, and how staying slightly
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  Speaker 1: mysterious to your partner keeps them on their toes. Because truly,
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  Speaker 1: how hard can it be? Welcome to another episode of
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  Speaker 1: How Hard Can It Be? I'm your host, Diana Maria Riva,
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  Speaker 1: and we are here with a queen.
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  Speaker 2: You know her from, well, first of all, she's done everything.
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  Speaker 1: She's an actor, producer, writer, mother, and wife, and wonderful sister-girlfriend.
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  Speaker 1: And you know her from Without a Trace, Rush Hour 2,
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  Speaker 1: Devious Maids. I know her because she has played not
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  Speaker 1: only my sister, but my BFF in Chasing Papi. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: this Puerto Rican boricua beauty, inside and out, Rosalyn Sanchez!
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  Speaker 1: We were just saying that we've known each other for
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  Speaker 1: a long time. And this is the thing that gets
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  Speaker 1: me when I'm thinking about how long we've known each other.
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  Speaker 1: And we don't have opportunities to actually sit down and chat.
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  Speaker 1: When we did Miss Miami, which was a pilot that
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  Speaker 1: did not get picked up ABC, where she was just
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  Speaker 1: a renegade law enforcer. It was amazing. We went to Miami.
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  Speaker 1: That's the first time we met. And my son was
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  Speaker 1: only nine months old. It was my first time away
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  Speaker 1: from him. I cried all the way until they fed
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  Speaker 1: me champagne.
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  Speaker 2: And he's 24 now.
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  Speaker 1: 24 years ago. Yes, about to be 25. That was 24.
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  Speaker 2: You know what happened with the Miss Miami? Because we
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  Speaker 2: were ahead of our time.
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  Speaker 3: We were.
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  Speaker 2: It's like they decided to go with this Latina lead
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  Speaker 2: with a thick accent. I was so happy. I felt
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  Speaker 2: so blessed. I was already like planning my life in
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  Speaker 2: Miami because we shot in Miami. I had everything calculated.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't get picked up. And I'm going, what do
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  Speaker 2: you mean? And then now every time that I think
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  Speaker 2: about Miss Miami, and I saw it recently. maybe like
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  Speaker 2: five years ago, I was like, you know, I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to check it out, the high dot again. And it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't bad at all. No. It wasn't bad at all.
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  Speaker 2: And I said to myself, you know what? We were just,
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  Speaker 2: it was too soon for them to have somebody with
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  Speaker 2: an accent Latina as a lead and a Latino-based show,
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  Speaker 2: you know? Yeah. It is what it is.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we could have been groundbreaking. Whenever they don't pick
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  Speaker 1: up shows like that, that could be, that they weren't
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  Speaker 1: ready for, but you just, it marvels that, marvels you
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  Speaker 1: that they could have been groundbreaking.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there was a first All in the Family.
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  Speaker 1: There was a first The Sopranos. All of those things
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  Speaker 1: were groundbreaking and different. And it's just amazing that they
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  Speaker 1: didn't roll the dice on it. But here we are,
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  Speaker 1: 24 years later, you look gorgeous.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, Mama. Likewise.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you. And I just wonder, in those
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  Speaker 1: 24 years, a lot has changed. But I do have
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  Speaker 1: this little icebreaker in Called, what was your, oh shit,
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  Speaker 1: is this midlife moment? Did you have a moment? And
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  Speaker 1: it could be something serious. It could be something as
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  Speaker 1: simple as hair growing in places that it shouldn't be.
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  Speaker 1: Or it could be like crossroad, what you're not doing anymore,
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  Speaker 1: putting up with whatever. It's like one of those moments
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  Speaker 1: where you're like.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my God. You know, I think as a person,
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  Speaker 2: that happened once I had kids. You know, I became
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  Speaker 2: a mom very late in life. My first kid was
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  Speaker 2: at 38. Dylan, I was 44. So I waited a
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  Speaker 2: while to be a mom. And I had no idea
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  Speaker 2: that I had so many issues. Wow. Family trauma.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 2: That my entire life I refused to pay attention to
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  Speaker 2: or I'm the type of person that me pongo gringolas.
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  Speaker 2: I don't say anything. I just keep going. And once
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  Speaker 2: I became a parent, it was like hitting a wall.
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  Speaker 2: Then I was like, oh! I have a problem with
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  Speaker 2: this and with that and with that and I don't
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  Speaker 2: want this for my life and I don't want this
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  Speaker 2: upbringing for my kids. And I started calculating and moving
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  Speaker 2: numbers around and I was like, what is going on
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  Speaker 2: with me? Okay, parenthood has changed me dramatically.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think that was the trigger then? The trigger is,
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  Speaker 1: because I feel like when I became a parent, I
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  Speaker 1: suddenly felt my own mortality. I'm like, oh, I can
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  Speaker 1: and will die someday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then I'm leaving these two behind.
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  Speaker 2: And I think about it because even my daughter said
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  Speaker 2: to me not too long ago, and I was like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: you know, but then it's really, Messed with me. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to tell her, but it messed with me.
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  Speaker 2: She said, do you realize that when Dylan graduates from
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  Speaker 2: high school, you're going to be like almost 80 something
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  Speaker 2: years old? You won't be able to meet his kids. Oh, God.
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  Speaker 2: Can you believe that?
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, what are you talking about? What are
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  Speaker 2: you talking about? I'm going to be fabulous. Are you joking, Isabella?
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  Speaker 2: You're so crazy. You know what I mean? And then
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  Speaker 2: I went to take a shower and I was shaking.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Going.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 2: You're right. I'm 53. I told Eric that night, do
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  Speaker 2: you know that we're going to be very old by
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  Speaker 2: the time Dylan has kids?
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  Speaker 1: We won't be able to.
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  Speaker 2: Meet the kids. So what are you talking about? Well,
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  Speaker 2: your daughter just told me. And, yeah, it hits you.
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  Speaker 2: I just go, I have dear friends, like my sisters
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  Speaker 2: from high school. They're grandmas. Oh, yeah. And they're enjoying
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  Speaker 2: their grandkids. Yeah. And they love them, you know. And
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  Speaker 2: I get the pictures and I'm going, oh, my God,
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  Speaker 2: this is amazing. And I am so happy for them
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  Speaker 2: and I love them. Yeah. I don't know if I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to be able to live that.
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  Speaker 1: So thank you, Sebi, for bringing it on a platter.
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  Speaker 2: That's why, you know what's happening? That's why, I mean, it's,
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  Speaker 2: you know, because we live in Hollywood and the business,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and everything is full of caca. But you
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  Speaker 2: know how the longevity saga, you know, and everything is
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  Speaker 2: about looking younger and peptides. And what can you do
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  Speaker 2: to be able to prolong your life?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: 10 years ago, I'll be like, that's laughable. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm so young. I don't even have to think about it.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's an obsession. Yes. Because all I care about
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  Speaker 2: is how healthy can I be when I'm 75 and
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  Speaker 2: at 80.
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  Speaker 1: That's a difference. That is a game changer.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: When you talk about, like, I remember when I first
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  Speaker 1: realized about two years ago that I had a pinched
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  Speaker 1: nerve in my back.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: But before it was properly diagnosed that it was a
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  Speaker 1: pinched nerve, everything went through.
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  Speaker 2: Is it MS? Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Is it a slipped disc? Is it an ALS? Is
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  Speaker 1: it whatever? Because this was going numb, inexplicably, like all
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  Speaker 1: that stuff. And then, you know, they did all the
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  Speaker 1: tests and a neurosurgeon said, no, it's a pinched nerve.
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  Speaker 1: But then life became about preserve the back. Stretching and
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  Speaker 1: preserve the back. And now I feel like I am 80.
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  Speaker 1: But if I want to be 80, I have to
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  Speaker 1: stretch and preserve the back. But that's a big change,
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  Speaker 1: a shift in mindset when it's not just about skin anymore.
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  Speaker 1: It's about just quality of life. internally, externally, so that
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  Speaker 1: you're here as long as possible.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, my father just passed. He was 86, I believe.
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  Speaker 2: And the last year and a half, he was unrecognizable.
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  Speaker 2: He had a stroke, and then he did not have
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  Speaker 2: the will to live anymore. We all believe that he
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  Speaker 2: had the capability with the right therapy and mindset to
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  Speaker 2: get out of that bed.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And the wheelchair. Yeah. He chose to, for whatever reason,
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  Speaker 2: to just let himself go. But it kills me because
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  Speaker 2: when I think about my dad growing up, my dad
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  Speaker 2: was an athlete. He was vibrant. My dad was a trunk. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Era un roble. Yeah. And then to see him go
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  Speaker 2: down so fast, so sad, it also triggered something in me.
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  Speaker 2: And even looking at my mom, my mom then aged 30.
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  Speaker 2: 20 years taking care of him.
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  Speaker 1: I bet, yes.
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  Speaker 2: So now my mom can't even walk, and I just,
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  Speaker 2: I go home, and it depresses me, and I am
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  Speaker 2: so determined not to allow any of that to happen
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  Speaker 2: to me. You know, listen, a stroke comes out of nowhere,
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  Speaker 2: there's no control. Yes. But at least I know, God forbid,
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  Speaker 2: something like that happens to me, I'm going to use
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  Speaker 2: every ounce of my being to get up from bed.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think, God, in the way of his mindset?
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  Speaker 1: My dad says this all the time. He says, if
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  Speaker 1: I'm a burden, that's all I think that generation can
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  Speaker 1: think of, is if I'm a burden, I'm out.
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  Speaker 2: I'm done.
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  Speaker 1: Don't do anything more in life to keep me going.
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  Speaker 2: He made sure that he went down and everybody went
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  Speaker 2: down with him. Oh, okay. So it was different. It
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  Speaker 2: was almost selfish to the point that everybody's telling you,
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  Speaker 2: the experts are telling you, if you do this and
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  Speaker 2: this and this and this and this, you have a chance.
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  Speaker 2: And you chose not to do it. and become more
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  Speaker 2: and more abusive. And then it's not only your problem,
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  Speaker 2: it's everybody's problem. So as a family, we all took
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  Speaker 2: a hit because we just couldn't understand. If you were
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  Speaker 2: the man, el cheche, the life of the party, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm invincible, you know, I'm above everybody.
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  Speaker 1: What was his name?
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  Speaker 2: Efraín.
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  Speaker 1: Don Efraín.
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  Speaker 2: Don Efraín. Don Efraín.¿ Qué pasó? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: What? Did that play into you making connections about any
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  Speaker 1: of those family triggers, that history, that family history or
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  Speaker 1: trauma that you said you kind of skipped over?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, like crazy. Yeah. Like crazy. First of all, it
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  Speaker 2: was like, it makes me emotional. It's like the disappointment
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  Speaker 2: that I was like, that's, you're not who you said
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  Speaker 2: you were. It was weird.
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  Speaker 1: How he built himself your whole life.
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  Speaker 2: Shocking. Wow. I was like, I don't recognize you. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know you. I want nothing to do with that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's been really interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Very interesting. That is different. I think that I've heard
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  Speaker 1: multiple different stories of women in this chapter, my girlfriends
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  Speaker 1: in this season of life where we are working, we're vibrant,
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  Speaker 1: we're still accomplishing things that we want to do. We're
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  Speaker 1: still raising our children because even though yours is 14
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  Speaker 1: and 8, mine's 21 and 24, I'm still taking care.
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  Speaker 1: The 24-year-old, he is on his adult life right now.
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  Speaker 1: But the 21-year-old, she's still in school.
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  Speaker 2: She's with you.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm supporting her while she does her path to
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  Speaker 1: med school. But, you know, when you think about it
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  Speaker 1: from the perspective of you're still a daughter and then
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  Speaker 1: you're this parent. And so what are you going to
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  Speaker 1: change and shift and do differently, you know? So that does–
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  Speaker 1: I mean, clearly that's a personality trait in there, something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I think I learned– listen, it's interesting because even–
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  Speaker 2: I think my whole life is about– I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if you believe in this, Diana– The importance of breaking cycles. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: You know, and I think we're here for, we're put
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  Speaker 2: in earth for,¿ cómo se dice? Estamos aquí for a reason. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know, and for you to be able, for your
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  Speaker 2: soul to be able to advance, you know. Yes. There's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of lessons that you have to learn. Almost
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  Speaker 2: you have to keep graduating, graduating, graduating. And through seeing
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  Speaker 2: my parents' marriage and upbringing... I've been able to consciously
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  Speaker 2: make a decision to be like, I am breaking the cycle.
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  Speaker 2: It ends right here. Because I'm not going to do that.
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  Speaker 2: Even making the choice of like, I've been married to
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  Speaker 2: Eric for 20 years. But before Eric, I had my
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  Speaker 2: share of. relationships that I was just attracted to people
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  Speaker 2: similar to my dad. Interesting. You know, until one day
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  Speaker 2: I said, what am I doing? I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: be Olga. Nothing against Olga. Olga is my mom. My life,
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  Speaker 2: you know, mi mamá es un ser humano extraordinario. But
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  Speaker 2: I don't want that life. Yeah. Yeah. So I had
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  Speaker 2: to consciously be like, no, I am going to choose
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  Speaker 2: as a life partner, partner somebody that It's not going
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  Speaker 2: to put me through that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And if you don't know, Rosaline, the beautiful Rosaline,
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  Speaker 1: is married to the very handsome and talented, smart and
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  Speaker 1: kind Eric Winter.
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  Speaker 2: Good people.
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  Speaker 1: So you were born and raised in Puerto Rico.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: He is American.
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  Speaker 2: Born and raised in L.A. In Los Angeles, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: L.A. boy. L.A. boy.
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  Speaker 1: And did you guys find your upbringings to bring– because
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  Speaker 1: this can happen in any marriage– your upbringings to be
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  Speaker 1: vastly different when it comes to things like this? Very different.
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  Speaker 2: Very. Every, even the podcast that we had together that
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  Speaker 2: we're going to continue at some point, the whole laugh
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  Speaker 2: about is we're so incredibly different. But that was part of,
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  Speaker 2: I think, the magic, you know, because we like culturally,
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  Speaker 2: the way we think about things, you know, the fundamentals
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  Speaker 2: and the things when it comes to values, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and the way we want to parent our kids, then yes,
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  Speaker 2: of course, you know? Okay. Pero, yeah, when everything else,
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  Speaker 2: we're very, very different. And we've been able to make
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  Speaker 2: it work. Not easy, you know? It's up and down,
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  Speaker 2: like everything, because sometimes the difference is at the beginning
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  Speaker 2: they're cute, and ha, ha, ha, until they're not cute anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Until they're not. You know what I mean? And you're like, ah,
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  Speaker 2: you know? That was adorable.
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  Speaker 1: Now you're a pain in the ass.
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  Speaker 2: Now you're a pain, yes. Pero, but for the most part,
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  Speaker 2: it's been, it's amazing. And for me... This is what
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  Speaker 2: I go to bed every night with. If something happens
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  Speaker 2: to me, God forbid, are my kids going to be okay?
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  Speaker 2: They're going to be more than okay. Yes. Yes. So
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  Speaker 2: I chose correctly.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you did. Congratulations. You know, you're a working mom,
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  Speaker 1: and you've been a very successful mother. And you have
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  Speaker 1: two children that are younger, 14 and 8. Yes. And
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  Speaker 1: your oldest, Debbie, is a rising... tennis champion. Literally saw
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  Speaker 1: her on TV the other day. Little Latina Sarita Williams there.
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  Speaker 1: Game face on, too. What did I see her do?
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  Speaker 1: Was she dancing to the music.
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  Speaker 2: She walked off because she had scored?
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, she just burned. It was so great. And
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  Speaker 1: your sweet boy. And the demands on parents with kids
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  Speaker 1: who are good at sports. Not just in it, but
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  Speaker 1: then they're good. And this country's fascination with sports. High
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  Speaker 1: school sports is insane.
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  Speaker 2: Out of control. I know. I know. We are a
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  Speaker 2: tennis family. It consumes our lives. And we love it.
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  Speaker 2: And we are so proud of her discipline and commitment.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this little girl, God bless her. She leaves school.
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  Speaker 2: She leaves at 8. She doesn't come back home until
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  Speaker 2: 7 or 8 o'clock at night. And then homework. Every
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  Speaker 2: single day to do homework. An 8th grade student. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know how she does it. Like, I have all
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  Speaker 2: these other... Classmates and the parents that I'm friends with.
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  Speaker 2: And sometimes I feel like a terrible mom, but she's
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  Speaker 2: so independent. I don't remember Sabella ever saying to me, Mom,
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  Speaker 2: can you help me with my homework? Or, oh my God,
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  Speaker 2: I'm overwhelmed. I need some help. I don't even know
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  Speaker 2: when she has projects. I don't know anything.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Anything.
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  Speaker 1: But you know what's so funny is that that doesn't
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  Speaker 1: surprise me.
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  Speaker 2: And she's perfectly fine.
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  Speaker 1: Because she does seem like she took, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure Eric was too, but you seem very, if
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  Speaker 1: not stubborn, very set. When you set your mind to something,
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  Speaker 1: you get it done.
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  Speaker 2: She's a mini me. And it's funny because she's a lot.
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  Speaker 2: She's so fiercely independent.
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  Speaker 1: She's a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know how old you're going to be, mom?
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  Speaker 1: She's like, I did the math. She's fiercely, I know,
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  Speaker 1: this is you.
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  Speaker 2: She's fiercely independent. She's something else. It's really crazy. And
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  Speaker 2: a lot of times it's scary. And I just go,
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  Speaker 2: this girl is going to, I'm going to have premature greys,
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  Speaker 2: you know, because it's a lot. I mean, I have
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  Speaker 2: greys already. I actually covered them this morning.
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  Speaker 1: Anyways.
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  Speaker 2: Girl, we all do. And then I have to sit
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: down and be like, you know, when she walks right
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: in front of me, I just go, it's a mini me. Yeah.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: I was pretty much like that. So why am I tripping?
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, I always said about raising my children,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: especially my daughter. I'd rather her be well-informed and fiercely
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: independent and a scrapper than be in a situation where
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: she feels helpless because I sheltered her or protected her
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: too much from learning. This does lead to me sending
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: an obscene amount of video reels from Instagram saying, be
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: careful of this. Don't pick up a piece of tissue
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: paper that's on your door handle. I know Pablo's looking
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: at me like, there's a lot of freaks out there.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: And they're leaving tissue paper on your door handle. And
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: they've got poison on them.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: I talk to Sabella about everything.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: You know why?
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Because my mom is a very conservative, old school person.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Puerto Rican mom mentality. Like, I never had a conversation
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: with my mom about sex, about anything. I was very sheltered,
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: about anything. And I learned through friends and school. And
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: I was like, that's not going to happen with me.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: And it's not the most uncomfortable conversation. And she's just like, no,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: it's disgusting. I don't want to hear about it. You know,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: she hates it. But it's super important that I want
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: her to know everything about everything from mom and dad.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Yes. That's it.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: You were one of three. You have two or three
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: older brothers.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: We're four. I'm the youngest one and the only girl.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: And the only girl. So there was a sense of,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: and your mother didn't communicate to you about these things.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: And didn't talk about sex.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: No.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: So I'm guessing she didn't talk to you about midlife, menopause,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: any of that stuff, right?
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: So.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Nada. Yet you.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Nada.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: You became, you know, you created your own career. Yes.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: And you were a beauty queen. You were a pageant queen.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: And you're an educated queen. And you got your career
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: launched here in the entertainment industry. So what do you
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: bring to Sebi with this, your daughter? What do you
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: bring to her that your mother didn't bring to you
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: that you want her to know going in? Because I
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: always feel like the holy grail is if now that
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: we know.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: And we break that cycle, we teach them as early
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: as possible.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Claro, claro. Talking to her about all the things that
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: I wish my mom would have talked to me about.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Allowing her, you know, my mom did something right. My
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: mom lived her life through me. I think my mom
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: was a frustrated entertainer. Okay. My mom was very funny.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: My mom can imitate anybody like she was a proper
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: professional imitator. It's really, really funny. She's really a funny lady.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: So that's why since I was a little girl, I
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: was dancing ballet by four. I was playing piano at
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: six and she would submit me for commercials. I was
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: already doing TV in Puerto Rico when I was 19.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: And it was all my mom pushing me because that's
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: what she wanted. Yeah. She got very lucky that I
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: loved it. It wasn't like I'm doing it against my
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: will and I hate it. I don't want to. I
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: hate it. You know, like I wanted Sabella to be
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: a ballerina because I grew up as a dancer my
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: whole life. And Sabella at 11 said to me, I
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: hate ballet.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Even before 11. She's like, I don't want to do it. So, okay,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: so you don't have to do it. I never did
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: that with my mom. It was never an issue because
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: I liked it. I liked it. So... When I decided
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: to leave college because I didn't finish because I wanted
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: to move to New York to pursue musical theater and
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: I wanted to do Broadway and I wanted to then
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: go to Hollywood, my father took it not as good
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: because I had a one-year disability. finish and he's like,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: what are we talking about? I said, I'm out. My
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: mom wasn't happy by any means, but That's what she
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: grew me to be. So it wasn't a surprise when
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I said, I just want to do art, because that's
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: what you wanted me to do. And she was very
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: adamant about, I'm not going to cut your wings. I
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: don't allow anybody to do that to you. You want
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: to go? Go ahead. And that was something very valuable,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: that even though she was hypercritical, and my mom was
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: always very judgmental and hard. It was hard. It was
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: tough love. She always planted a seed inside my head about,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: you're so special. Yeah. You're so special. You're a star.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Go get it. Yeah. You know, and that has been incredible.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: And that's something that I am taking and I'm always praising.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: I don't, well, even though Sabella is funny, it's funny
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: because I don't, I don't mean to do it. I
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: don't mean to do it, you know, but I guess
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: it's all God. I have a way because I'm very strong.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: You know, you break the cycle, but there's a few tentacles.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: I know, but I don't know I'm doing it. Like
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: I like, she gets so petrified when I go to
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: her tournaments.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Why? And that's a whole new story. I don't know.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: She said that the way I'm looking at her is
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: very intimidating and it blocks her. I'm not trying to
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: do anything. No. I'm literally with my hat on my
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: glasses like this. I don't know what energy I'm giving.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: She's like, I cannot deal with you. I didn't know
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: anything about that. You're looking like Anna Wintour. I'm like that. No,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: before I was crazy. Before I was a crazy parent,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: before I knew that tennis, you can't say anything. You're like,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: do it, do it. She's the one getting kicked out
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: of Wimbledon. No, no, no. They have kicked us out.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: They have kicked you out. Me and Eric, we're crazy.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Now we know better. So we're like this, right?
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Now you've assumed.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: But she says, there's something that you do that makes
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: me so nervous, you know? My mom was the same way,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: but she would verbalize it. Después de la clase. Very,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: very always on me. With Sabela, I try not to
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: do that. But I guess there's something about the way
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at her that she feels judged already. So
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: I have to work on that. Because I swear to you,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: I don't mean to.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: You don't have to paint a smile on your face
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: or something. You're looking like the Joker.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: I know. But I'm trying to listen. I'm trying to be...
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Como te digo, you know, we always want to be
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: best friends with our kids. And I'm all about, I
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: want to, I want her, I want to be, I
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: want her to be my girl. I want her to
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: be able to tell me anything and everything. But I
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: also believe, and that's the old school Puerto Rican in me,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: but I'm still alpha. I'm mom.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course you are.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? So we can be
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: best friends.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: I'll never forget when my daughter was playing with a
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: traveling softball team. And, you know, it was a vibrant family.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: All the families were very vibrant, but I was definitely
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: the loudest. So she would be, you know, coming around
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: third and I'm like, So she's like, Mom, you're embarrassing me.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Don't do it anymore.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: I was like, fine.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: So the next game, I was like, I'm not saying anything.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: She hits a home run. And there was a parent, Rosa,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: who's sitting in front of me. And all of a sudden,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I look and I get a text from Rosa. She goes, hey,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Sophie just got a home run. I was like, Rosa,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I'm right here. And she's like, oh, it's so quiet.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I didn't even know.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: I thought you were here.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: And then that night, Sophie goes, mom, you can cheer
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: again if you want. I'm like, yes, you see, you see, yeah,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: it comes back around. So you, you, you know, growing
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: up in Puerto Rico and, and there's this life that
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: you are pursuing your studies and then you go through
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: the beauty pageant world and you're successful at it. Did
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: that feed anything into what you brought up before about
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: longevity in Hollywood? But just as a woman, it's not
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: even have to do with Hollywood as much as, as
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: a woman, does it bring up, things, other things that
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: you don't want to pass on to Sebi about where
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: we are, what's happening with our bodies, what's happening with
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: our skin, what's happening with the fact that this is
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: how we look now, but at 88, we're going to.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: But you know what's happening? It's a different generation, Diana.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: When we were growing up, social media didn't exist.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, thank God.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: So we didn't have that constant influence, you know, of like,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: this is what you should look like. Right. That didn't exist.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: So nowadays, I feel like it doesn't matter how much
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I try to tell Sabella, try to avoid, don't do this,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: don't do that. That's not what beauty is. You know, like,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: they're constantly bombarded with this illusion of what beauty is
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: and longevity that is 99% not even true. And that's
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: why I do teach her that. You know, when she says,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: I'm going gaga about this girl. She's the most beautiful
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: thing in the world. Because I know the truth. Mm-hmm.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: I said, I want you to understand, Sebi, there's filters
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: in there. There's surgeries. You know, when you look at her,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: she's only 25. But if she didn't do all the work,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: she wouldn't look like this 25-year-old.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: It's amazing how young they're getting work done.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: And their mind is blown. Like I said, Bella a
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: lot of times fights me. Like, you don't know that.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: I said, Mommy, I know for a fact. You know,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: if I show you everything, the lips is not, everything
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: is different. So that's not who that person is.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: And I try to teach her, you know, you're so beautiful.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: And your choices are going to be your choices, but
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to, I want her to be so secure
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: about her looks, you know, that she's the bomb, you know,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: that you don't have to get so affected. by what
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: you see, because it's not reality. But that's all they know.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: So I know it's not reality, but for her to
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: comprehend that it's not reality, it's kind of like, what
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: are you talking about? Because it's normalized.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: And there's such an innocence there, too, of believing what
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: they see. And we're just too jaded. We're too jaded.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: And once they normalize it, they block you out.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: That's even harder. They block you out.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: You don't know what you're talking about.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Have you always been one to embrace... your journey with
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: beauty inside and out? Do you face complexes? Do you
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: pick on yourself? Are you kind to yourself?
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: A little bit of everything. You know, a little bit
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: of everything. It's funny, before I wasn't as aware. Now,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: and I share this with you. First of all, what
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: we do for a living, it's impossible not to get self-conscious. Sure, sure.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: When you... are constantly competing for things, you know? You're competing,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: you're competing, you're like always applying for a job every
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: single day of your life and they will just look
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: at you, I don't like her hair, ah, she reminds
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: me of my cousin that I can't stand, you know?
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: It's like, it's so unpredictable and it's hard when people
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: that you look up to that they're incredible actresses and
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: even those that you thought they will never touch their faces,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: they will never do that, you know? And they're doing it,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: you just go, oh my God, what the heck, you know?
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: What is going on? And It is. It is hard.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to lie. I did a hysterectomy maybe
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: now four years ago. It was a choice that I
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: made because I didn't want to live in pain. And
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: I had several people tell me, are you conscious and
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: are you aware that your skin is going to change dramatically?
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Because I've been a woman that I have never had
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: issues with my skin.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: I'm invincible. You know what I mean? I don't look
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: my age. I eat healthy. I don't do drugs. I
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: don't smoke. I don't drink. It's like nothing's going to
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: happen with my skin. I'm like, Like an alien, you know?
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: You wear sunblock.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: You know, I do everything right. Yes. And when you
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: see it happening.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: From a hysterectomy.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the quality of the skin changes. Wow. I wasn't
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: aware of that. And I wasn't supplementing with HRT, as
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: you call it. I wasn't doing the estrogen and the progesterone,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: the testosterone. I started doing that two years after when
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: I was like, I feel like shit. You know what
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: I mean? Why do I feel like I'm depleted, you know? Oh,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: because you have to do hormones. And I remember I'm
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: seeing my– everything changes. I see everything changing.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: But I don't want to live in pain. So it's
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: a choice that I made and it is what it is.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: So I try to– I do– not deserve and I
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: do things– To try to keep myself going and looking fabulous.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: But it's not the same anymore. You know, I don't
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: know if this happens to you. And this is really crazy.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: And it's like a big wake-up call. You see a casting, right?
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: And you see somebody's cast.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: In this whatever movie.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: And you see this beautiful Latina. And I'm still in
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: this delusion of, I could have done that. Uh-huh. And
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: he's like, I don't understand. How come I didn't go
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: over that? I'm calling my agent. The fuck? You know
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: what I mean? Like, I didn't even go over that.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that that was happening. Did you submit me?
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? I didn't get a meeting.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: And then the girl they get is 32. Yeah. But
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: I look at her and I look at me and
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I'm so crazy that I don't see a difference.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's crazy. I think that's the
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: most astounding self-confidence that you should have.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: I don't see it.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Because I definitely know when I see somebody who's 25
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: years younger than me, I'm like, this bitch is 25
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: years younger than me.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: No, but.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: But when I see them and I find out that
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: we're actually, you know, not.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: That you look... That I look great.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: I could be their sister.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Exactly right. That's what's happening. But then I go, oh,
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: but she's 32. I can be the mother. And then
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: I go, okay, now I get it. Controlate, because she's
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: a baby. You know what I mean? Why are you
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: even thinking that you can do that? She's 32 years old.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: But in my delusion, if I see her down the street,
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: I'm not thinking I look horrible next to her. No, right.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: I think you should stay that way.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Am I crazy? No. I think I'm crazy.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: I think you should keep that mindset. The longer you
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: think I look like this 32-year-old, I'm sure the better.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: For your heart and soul. I mean, not 32, but
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: at least 40.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Whatever.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Stay there.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Stay there. I remember somebody once said to me recently,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: like my last birthday, because I'm in my mid-50s, right?
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: And someone said, you don't look a day over 45.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, hold on a second. If you're
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: going to compliment me, don't fucking go 10 years younger.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Be like 25. Something that I'm.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Nowhere near, but 45? How old do you fucking think
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: I am? It's like saying that to an 80-year-old. But
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: what is it?
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know what they're doing. They're selling their soul somewhere.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: But I will say this. It doesn't just happen to us.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: My bestie of over 40 years, we do the Happy
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Hour segments, Happy Hour with Tina. She's not in the business,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: but she sees enough of what's going on, you know,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: on TV or on Instagram, whatever, that she's like, I
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: want to get, she's got a, I said, I have
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: a Yolanda.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: She's got a raisin here. A raisin? I have a raisin.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: A raisin. You don't have bingo arms, do you? Bingo. Oh,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: my God. Yeah. This is funny. This just happened two
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: days ago. I'm obsessed with Pilates. Right? I'm obsessed with Pilates.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: So I've tried to do it every single day. And
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: this class, I was the only one that showed up.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: So I had a private. Right? And I think she
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: was Puerto Rican, the girl. the teacher, I've never seen
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: her before. Very, very cool. So I don't know if
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: it was, you have mirrors over here, you have mirrors
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: in the back, and then there was a skylight and
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: the lighting. It's a gorgeous studio, right? So I'm doing
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: like the machine and I'm going like that, doing this muscle.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: I'm going like that. And I'm looking, I have the
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: sun hitting me here and I'm looking through the mirror.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: And this here, Arrugado como con celulitis. Y yo, this
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: is not fucking happening.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: This is not happening to me.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Wrinkled with cellulite.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: She said it for those of you.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: She said basically riddled with cellulite.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the heck it was. Y yo
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: estoy haciendo la máquina and I'm going.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: I died. And I'm going, this is 53. Welcome to
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: freaking 53. Because I'm going, I think I look great,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: but I don't know what's happening.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: What's happening? You wrote, produced, and directed a film called
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Diario Mujer.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: Y Café.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: I always get the three wrong.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Mujer y Café.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Mujer y Café.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: And it's about a group of girlfriends who were high
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: school besties.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: And they finally, like they stay in touch, but they
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: decided to really reunite and go on a girls trip.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Where they all end up. facing the conflicts with each
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: other and the conflicts within themselves. And it's like a midlife.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: It's a group of women in midlife. Did you learn...
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: First of all, this was such a labor of love
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: and you didn't start this when you were 20. You
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: started this when you were, you know, what, late 40s,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: early 50s? And so to take on a task... to
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: that kind of level of completion that you didn't have
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: decades of doing, you have been acting and whatnot, speaks
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: to all women. We can pick up and try something
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: or go forward in doing something that we've always wanted
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: to do or we've never been able to take the
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: ball all the way across the finish line, and you did.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I loved every second of it.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: It was a headache. It was blood, sweat, and tears.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: What did you learn about yourself?
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: That I can do anything.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Yes, you can.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: I can do anything. Yes, you can. I can't do anything.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: It's really intense. Yeah. I just go, I just need
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: to say that I'm going to do it. And it
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: was a massive list. It was seven years, seven years
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: of like trying to get the, getting the finance, then
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: the whole thing falling apart. It was so many mountains
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: and boom. And you're like, Oh my God, what am
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: I doing? What am I doing? I can just be
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: in front of the camera. You know what I mean?
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: What am I doing? But I had this desire to
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: direct and I knew that I was going to be
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: good at it. And, and I was always afraid because
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: I didn't go to, Film school, so how am I
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: going to communicate with a DP? Like, how am I
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: going to do that? Until I talk to key people.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: You know how God sends you angels? Yes. To just
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: give you one phrase. Yes. One conversation, one word, you know,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: and they just disappear. And you just go, click. Yeah. Okay,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: it clicked. And so just tell your story. You know,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: you have enough experience in front of the camera. You've
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: been observing for 30 years how they do it. Yes.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: So why can't you do that?
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: You've been a good student.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: You're a good learner. And it was a surreal, monumental experience.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: I can't wait to do it again.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: And where can we see that? Because I've seen it
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: multiple times. Can we see it?
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: It's on Amazon, Apple, all the streamers. Yeah, everywhere.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: It's a wonderful show. And even if you don't speak Spanish,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: the subtitles are great. There's some Spanglish in it. I
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: resonated with all the characters, but the one in particular.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: And I just love that you finished that journey because
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: I think it's a testament to us. We're not done. We,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: at this age, society would like to say or accuse
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: us of being on the downhill slope. And the fact
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: of the matter is that we still have dreams that,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: like for myself, I'm just really now able to dive
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: into because my kids have gone off and I had
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: to be home and work, but not too far because
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: I didn't have someone else there. So now is my time.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: And I want to do a lot of things that
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: I am afraid of.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: But I can't. I have to stop listening to that clock.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Do. Yes. And just do.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Just keep doing.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Can I tell you how I think my favorite, my
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: 40s and my 50s have been amazing. Yeah. I think
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: it's my favorite part. Like I'm listening. I had a
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: lot of fun and a lot of accomplishments, you know,
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: and ups and downs and then had my kids. But I,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: I honestly, I can. Yeah. My 40s have been great.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. My 50s, I'm 53. I'm just starting. Yeah.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: It's amazing. When I start off this segment, this show,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: and I always say navigating life's most fantastic bullshit, it
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: is an oxymoron because it's a lot of bullshit and
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: it's a lot of fantastic discovery. And one of the
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: biggest things in this chapter is discovering who are your friends,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: who are the women that you want to– the company
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: you keep.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Got it.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Because we ain't got time for bullshit. And we had
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: a guest who likes it. Can we show this? We
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: have a guest that likes to talk about, she's a
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: big supporter, and she uplifts her girlfriends. And we learned
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: specifically how she uplifts you, and it was hilarious. I'm
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: sure you're aware of it to a certain degree, but let's.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: I read a script, and I go into the audition,
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: and I go, and it's somebody with an accent. And
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: I don't do accents very well, And so they're like, okay.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Talking to me, I go, you guys know who would
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: be great for this part? And she has an amazing accent.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: Rosalind Sanchez. And I pitched her so many times. And
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: my agent finally called me. He goes, if you fucking
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: go in one more room and pitch Rosalind Sanchez. And
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: I was like, she's just better.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: She's perfect for the part. Like, why are they seeing me? Oh,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: my God.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I love her.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: I want to ask one quick question and then go
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: on to our rapid fire. But these best decades of
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: your life, as you said, in your 40s and 50s,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: has included this wonderful marriage. You've been together with Eric
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: for how many years?
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: 20 years.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: 20 years. So there's a lot of growing up in
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: that 20 years. What would you say is your secret
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: at this stage of keeping things healthy and balanced?
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: So support has been the number one thing, yeah, for
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: us because we both do the same thing. Yeah. And
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: it's very hard when you have two actors as part
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: of the same household, you know?
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: In the same competitive profession.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: It is competitive and it's up and down, you know,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: and one is doing well. Like for the most part,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: I was like the breadwinner, you know? And it's funny
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: because when I met Eric, I started dating Eric and
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: he just came out of doing a soap and I
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: always saw like a star. I'm going, this guy is
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: going to be the next Brad Pitt. And I thought
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: it was going to happen within five years. And it's
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: been such a long road. And now finally, because of
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: The Rookie and that vehicle that is a massive global success,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: he's finally, he made it. You know, like he is,
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: he can even walk. They have tapped into him. They
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: love him and they love the character. And it is
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: fascinating to see the reaction that he gets when he
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: walks down the street. But it happened in his 50s,
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: which I never thought. That blows me away that I'm going...
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: It took him this long, but it finally happened. So
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: now there's a shift in dynamic. Yeah.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Now I'm not working as much. I don't want to relocate.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: I've said I want to be more of a mom. Yeah.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: But I mean, crazy ambitious. Yeah. You know, and I'm
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: used to always being the one here. So now it's
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: this constant, now it's his moment. So what do I
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: have to do? I need to compliment what he's doing.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: I need to be the champ. You know, the Palm Republic,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: it all came... Eric, your show is so massive. You're
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: so likable. You're so beautiful. You're like a natural entrepreneur
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: because Eric is somebody that walks into a room and
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: he's just, people love him. They want to engage. And
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: he speaks great. He's funny. And I say, you need
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: to brand. I'm not interested. You need to get into
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: social media. I hate TikTok. I hate it. So you
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: have to capitalize. It's now.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: It's now. Yeah.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Capitalize that moment.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: You have this window. Okay? Let's go for it. Let's
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: do a rom. And listen, it's a lot of work.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: It's a lot of work. But he's thriving. So support
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: has been the number one thing. Even when I'm doing
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: amazing and he's doing okay, I need to make sure
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: that he's looking up to me. When he's doing amazing
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: and I'm just here, I need to make sure that
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: I'm happy for you. I'm so glad that I was
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: able to be a part of that journey. Yes. And
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: the same thing with him. So that's number one. And
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: number two is your sense of humor. you know, because
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: we're so different. If we don't make fun of each other,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: it'll be brutal.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be brutal. But I do love seeing you
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: go out, you know, when he was in your film.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: And when he started speaking Spanish, I'm like, this is
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: the most adorable thing I've ever seen in my life.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: And then afterwards, because I went to a screening, he
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: was so humble. He's like, I know my Spanish wasn't good.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: I'm like, who are you apologizing to? Your Spanish was perfect.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: Yes, he did really well.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: I just feel like you guys really complement each other.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: He embraces everything about you and everything you bring in
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: your history as you do him.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been amazing. It's funny because I think that
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: he always tells people, He's a Cancer, I'm an Aries.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you believe in astrology. I used to,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: now I don't pay attention to it anymore. But it's fascinating.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: He always says that it's been 20 years, but I
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: always keep him guessing. He doesn't really know what I'm thinking.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Perfect.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: And I love it. Beautiful. I'm going good.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: My job here is done. Sammy, take notes. Dylan, prepare yourself.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: I know. It's awesome. It's awesome.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: That's so good. Okay, well then on that note, let
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: me do a little rapid fire. Okay. And this rapid
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: fire is who handles this shit better, you or Eric?
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Okay? Okay.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: The different topics. Here we go. Fixing broken shit around
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: the house.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Eric.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: She's like, high school math homework.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Eric.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: College search?
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Eric. Are you home? What happened? Even at school, all
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: the parents, for play dates, they contact Eric because they
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: know that I'm not going to reply. I'm terrible. He's
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: the one man who answers his phone and replies to
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: the text. Okay. Okay.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Who's most romantic?
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: If you say Eric.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Eric.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: That's why I keep on guessing. No wonder.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: He's like, she doesn't answer. She doesn't reply.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: She's just available.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: This is embarrassing. This is embarrassing.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Who's sexier?
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: You should just give yourself that one whether it's Eric
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: or not.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: I'm sexier.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Okay. Who has more hair product? Because that man has
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: some perfect hair.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: You know, it might be a tie because Eric is
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: a metro. Metro! Metro! They're like, this is him putting
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: creams every single night. He's very funny. He's very funny.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: You're giving away your secret.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. He's very funny.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, he is. He's incredibly handsome, and he's also pretty.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: He's pretty and handsome, and he takes care of himself beyond. Well, look.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: He was at the dermatologist this morning. He said, what happened?
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: I just had this little rash over here. You don't
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: have anything over there. I have a little rash over here.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: So he went to the dermatologist, and on the way here,
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: he called me. Everything is okay. I have nothing. I
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: told you it was nothing.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: I could have saved you $ 125.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: $ 125.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: And a trip to CBS for some cortisol.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: I have a little dot over here. It's funny. It's funny.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: This is a perfect relationship. I love this so much.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: If you can keep a Metro guessing, you have one
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: that's the holy grail.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Exactly. You've done well.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: I know that I've done well in having a girlfriend
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: like you in my life. Oh, thank you. This was
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: one of the one and only times in probably the
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: last five years that we've been able to sit down
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: and actually talk.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Because we see each other, but it's a lot of people.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Always something.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: And then three words and it's chaotic.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: So I love it. But you know what? Just like
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: our girl Eva, it doesn't take, it has not taken
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: anything for me to text you and say, I need
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: your support.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: And you're like, boom, boom. I need to find a
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: place in a safe neighborhood to stay in and put
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: the boom, boom.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: Of course. Always. You know what? I'm here for you
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: always because I love you and I think you're a
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: phenomenal human being, lady, mom, everything. Thank you. Like everything.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: As are you, amiga.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Te quiero. You are. Thank you. Yay!
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