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Science Fiction Quadruple Feature · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 4: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 6: I am Brian and we are coming to you live.
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  Speaker 3: Via digital recording from.
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  Speaker 1: Louisville Supercon at the Kentucky International Convention Center in scenic
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  Speaker 1: downtown Louisville.
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  Speaker 8: There, see, he had the voice ready to go, so
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  Speaker 8: I thought I'd just pitch it to you. And joining
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  Speaker 8: me this week is.
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  Speaker 1: George Buehler, the WBKI fanatic.
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  Speaker 8: We've crossed over on the internets like a... years ago
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  Speaker 8: maybe a couple years ago it's been a while yeah
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  Speaker 8: let's start the fanatic chat yeah and we're always like
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  Speaker 8: we should just go ahead and sit down and do
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  Speaker 8: a show and finally this week i was like you
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  Speaker 8: know we should just sit down while we're there because
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  Speaker 8: we'll both be there oh.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah i mean i love listening to movie meltdown all
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  Speaker 1: the time to support your you know podcast.
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  Speaker 8: Yes so it's like yeah Much appreciated. Some people out there,
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  Speaker 8: I'm not singling you out, listener, but some people aren't
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  Speaker 8: sharing the way that they should, where George is pretty
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  Speaker 8: awesome about it.
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  Speaker 1: You know what? You got to share, folks. You got to.
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  Speaker 1: Same thing with my folks. They share. It kind of
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  Speaker 1: helps to get the word out.
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  Speaker 8: It's very important. So I appreciate you getting the word
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  Speaker 8: out for us.
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  Speaker 1: That's a great show. I love supporting it.
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  Speaker 8: I appreciate it. So I'd say, how's it been? But
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  Speaker 8: I know it's been pretty awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god uh this has been a hell of
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  Speaker 1: a show it really has been um i basically did
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  Speaker 1: 10 interviews between friday and saturday all right uh starting
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  Speaker 1: with kevin conroy the voice of batman.
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  Speaker 8: I i it's funny that how many people still reference
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  Speaker 8: it because everybody gets in there who's the best batman
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  Speaker 8: most of the real geeks put him at the top
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  Speaker 8: of the list absolutely even though visually never been in
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  Speaker 8: a movie audio has been the most and awesome Batman ever.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you gotta think, you know, you had,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it started with the Batman the Animated Series,
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  Speaker 1: then went to the Adventures of Batman and Robin, then
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  Speaker 1: Justice League, then Justice League Unlimited, then Batman Beyond, then
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  Speaker 1: the Brave and the Bold, then the three Arkham series games.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, and the movies. Mask of the Phantasm.
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  Speaker 1: Mask of the Phantasm.
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  Speaker 8: I saw a Phantasm here today. Actually, it was last night.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, that's a great costume.
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  Speaker 9: He was.
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  Speaker 4: He was awesome.
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  Speaker 1: I saw him.
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  Speaker 8: That's a deep cut for, you know, not for geeks,
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  Speaker 8: but for normal people. They wouldn't have no clue who
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  Speaker 8: you are.
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  Speaker 1: So that's cool. I've seen some great costumes. I saw
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  Speaker 1: a girl who was probably under the age of 12.
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  Speaker 1: dressed from hitchhiker's guide for the galaxy she had the
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  Speaker 1: bathrobe she had the towel she had the don't.
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  Speaker 8: Panic damn good for a little kid you know for
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  Speaker 8: it was it blew me away that's pretty impressive i
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  Speaker 8: saw and this is it's funny how because you're seeing
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  Speaker 8: such a generational shift because i remember just a few
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  Speaker 8: years ago i was talking to someone probably early 20s
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  Speaker 8: and they were referencing how awesome space jam was and
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  Speaker 8: i'm like what Okay, everyone I knew when it came
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  Speaker 8: out hated Space Jam. But, like, kids didn't have that. Like,
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  Speaker 8: they didn't bring all this baggage to it from old
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  Speaker 8: school Warner Brothers. So, like, the fact that, like, they
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  Speaker 8: just grew up and it was Bugs Bunny and it
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  Speaker 8: was awesome. And so, like, now they're older and they're
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  Speaker 8: just like, no, that was great. Like, basketball and Bugs?
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  Speaker 8: And I'm like, oh. Oh, wait, okay. It didn't even
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  Speaker 8: occur to you to not like it. So, as I
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  Speaker 8: was in there earlier, there's a girl that's, I don't know,
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  Speaker 8: maybe 13, dressed as Babs.
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  Speaker 10: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 8: In the full basketball gear with her ears tied together
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  Speaker 8: in a ponytail. That's impressive. In a rabbit tail. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 8: I was just like, that's cool. And again, like, no
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  Speaker 8: judgment because... You don't know. I mean, again, you're older,
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  Speaker 8: you have a weird take on stuff. But I want
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  Speaker 8: to support kids loving geeky things.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 8: Even if it's Space Jam, I guess, go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm kind of lost in a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the anime stuff. My anime goes back to Akira, Vampire
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  Speaker 1: Hunter D, Fist of the North Star, the stuff.
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  Speaker 4: From the 80s.
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  Speaker 8: I've watched a few of those. I have Vampire Hunter D.
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  Speaker 8: That's about as far as I go.
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  Speaker 1: I'll say I think the most recent anime I saw
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  Speaker 1: was Ninja Scroll, which probably came out in like 95
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  Speaker 1: or 96.
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  Speaker 8: You were right on top of things. Cutting edge of anime.
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  Speaker 1: So basically all the series, you know, the Cowboy Bebop,
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  Speaker 1: the One Piece.
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  Speaker 8: That one's the one I will say is good. I
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  Speaker 8: saw that on Adult Swim enough to go, okay, I
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  Speaker 8: actually like this. Like it's well written. Yeah, so much
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  Speaker 8: of the other stuff I just do not connect with
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  Speaker 8: at all. but yeah cowboy bill it's.
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  Speaker 1: Worth watching so i think it basically i've already watched
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  Speaker 1: enough tv as it is professionally so it's hard to
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  Speaker 1: like i mean people like oh have you watched this
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  Speaker 1: on netflix but no i watch seven hours of cw
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  Speaker 1: television a week.
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  Speaker 8: Thank you that is my every week i go into
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  Speaker 8: like people will be like oh i really love this
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  Speaker 8: series and i'm like i can't start a new series
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  Speaker 8: i can't i spend all week editing this and then
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  Speaker 8: i watch a couple of movies for the show and
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  Speaker 8: that's all i have time to do like there's just
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  Speaker 8: I wish I could just sit at home and watch
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  Speaker 8: TV all day and live, but I can't do that.
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  Speaker 1: I make an exception for wrestling. I watch about eight
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  Speaker 1: hours of wrestling a week.
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  Speaker 8: Thankfully, I didn't get too far into that, which I
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  Speaker 8: will get to later when you get to your connections,
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  Speaker 8: I believe, as we go. But yeah, thankfully, I didn't
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  Speaker 8: go too far down the wrestling road.
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  Speaker 1: I'm in too deep.
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  Speaker 8: I really am I just pick the ones that I
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  Speaker 8: like and I'm like you know The Rock that dude's
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  Speaker 8: awesome so I just I follow him on his movie
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  Speaker 8: career and I anybody that strays over and I'm like
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  Speaker 8: Hulk you made a lot of questionable decisions you stay
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  Speaker 8: over there Rock you're.
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  Speaker 1: Cool come with me so I've got to meet and
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  Speaker 1: be in the presence of a lot of great ones
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  Speaker 1: The Rock has not unfortunately been on my radar.
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  Speaker 8: Yet yes I'm still hoping to have him on the
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  Speaker 8: show so come join us on that episode.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah call me please yeah I have questions.
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  Speaker 8: So, yeah, you just kind of started grazing the guests.
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  Speaker 11: Oh, yes.
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  Speaker 1: So let's see then. After Kevin Conroy, I had the
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  Speaker 1: absolute pleasure of talking with John Wesley Shipp, which he
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  Speaker 1: was my flash.
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  Speaker 8: I will get back to him towards the end of
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  Speaker 8: the episode.
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  Speaker 1: And the really, really cool thing was that he came
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  Speaker 1: to our booth, the CW booth, and interviewed him from there.
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  Speaker 1: He got to meet all of our crew. I got
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  Speaker 1: a couple of station IDs recorded as well, so I
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  Speaker 1: got some editing to do.
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  Speaker 8: I posted that today, actually. I saw that, and I
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  Speaker 8: was just like, He seems so fun.
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  Speaker 12: Oh, my.
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  Speaker 8: And you were so giddy to be talking to him.
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  Speaker 1: Cloud nine.
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  Speaker 8: You can tell how happy you were.
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  Speaker 1: Cloud nine. Oh, my God. I mean, I was able
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  Speaker 1: to hold it together talking to him. And I went
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  Speaker 1: and met Alice Cooper. I didn't get an interview with him.
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  Speaker 1: I wish I would have.
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  Speaker 8: He walked past. I ran into a guy that I
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  Speaker 8: used to work with. And we're standing there. And he's
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  Speaker 8: a big, like, he was there buying, like, his toys. Like,
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  Speaker 8: he's everything of that era he loves. So, like, he's
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  Speaker 8: standing there in the middle of talking.
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  Speaker 1: He goes, dude.
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  Speaker 13: Dude, Alice.
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  Speaker 8: He's walking down the hall to go do whatever Alice
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  Speaker 8: needs to do because he's Alice. And he just goes, hey, Alice,
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  Speaker 8: and sticks his hand out. Without breaking stride, Alice shakes
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  Speaker 8: his hand, keeps on going. I'm just like, dude, you
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  Speaker 8: just shook Alice's hand.
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  Speaker 1: That's pretty awesome.
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  Speaker 8: So he seems pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: Because he's Alice. He was amazing. Alice is one of
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  Speaker 1: those guys that there's a top five of people I've
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  Speaker 1: always wanted to meet. And I've always been able to
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  Speaker 1: hold it together meeting celebrities and wrestlers, stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: I can certainly confess with great humility that walking away
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  Speaker 1: after having a wonderful conversation with him, him signing one
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  Speaker 1: of my records, I was fighting back some tears. I've
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  Speaker 1: never had that experience meeting a celebrity, but you know what?
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  Speaker 1: Alice was the great exception.
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  Speaker 8: Alice is a pretty big deal. I just kind of
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  Speaker 8: want to hang out and talk horror movies because I
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  Speaker 8: know the depths of his horror geekery. It's so ridiculous.
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  Speaker 8: He comes here a lot because he's a weirdo that
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  Speaker 8: wants to play golf.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, sure, yeah.
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  Speaker 8: God bless him. Or Satan or whichever.
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  Speaker 1: I would rather have him healthy and playing golf than
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  Speaker 1: how he was in the 80s.
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  Speaker 8: It's just so funny seeing him in his golf attire
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  Speaker 8: and just like, never mind.
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  Speaker 1: But man, he's looking great. He's not slowing down. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: praise Jeebus.
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  Speaker 8: I saw him the last time he came through here
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  Speaker 8: and they did it at the fair of all things.
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  Speaker 8: And I was just like, was so amazed that like
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  Speaker 8: he ran all over that stage for like well over
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  Speaker 8: two hours like it just went on and i was
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  Speaker 8: like dude i am tired and i'm just sitting here
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  Speaker 8: and i'm not near as an old man as you
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  Speaker 8: are so i'm just like this is amazing that he
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  Speaker 8: is still just all over that stage and like still
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  Speaker 8: doing the crazy props and still beheading himself and all
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  Speaker 8: these things i was just like that is so impressive.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah it was truly glorious and you talk about his
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  Speaker 1: horror movie death so uh tell them the story about
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  Speaker 1: uh watching him on the muppets when i was three
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  Speaker 1: years old So, of course, this dates me.
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  Speaker 8: I'm right there with it. Well, I mean, to me,
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  Speaker 8: that's sort of the criteria. I've got a special group
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  Speaker 8: of people that, like, you know, if you were on
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  Speaker 8: The Muppet Show, makes you kind of cooler than most
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  Speaker 8: other people. So, like, anybody who made an appearance on...
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  Speaker 8: that original Muppet Show, that's pretty impressive.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. But I just got into Kiss around that time
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  Speaker 1: because Kiss Meets the Phantom Park came out the Halloween.
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  Speaker 1: A classic. I know. Right, right.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Still holds up today.
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  Speaker 8: Just as good as.
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  Speaker 1: It was then.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe.
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  Speaker 14: I don't know.
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  Speaker 15: Wow.
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  Speaker 10: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not even Chris's voice in the entire movie either,
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: by the way. A little fan tip there for you, folks.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, you know. He's not in the band to talk.
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  Speaker 8: It's fine.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, it's fine. But anyway, so he was on
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  Speaker 1: The Muppets. I knew his music, had never seen him
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  Speaker 1: perform before, didn't know what he looked like. So I
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  Speaker 1: see him on The Muppets, scares the ever-loving crap out
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  Speaker 1: of me. Oh, yeah. I can't finish the episode. Don't
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  Speaker 1: touch his music until I'm 12 years old.
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  Speaker 15: All right.
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  Speaker 8: Just at the right time for it to sink its
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  Speaker 8: hook in.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then basically what brought me back was his
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  Speaker 1: He's Back, The Man Behind the Mask, the theme from
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  Speaker 1: Friday the 13th Part 6.
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  Speaker 8: I've worked it into an episode, I believe, one of
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  Speaker 8: the music episodes. I played that one, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: A classic in the Alice lineup there, as far as
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  Speaker 1: I'm concerned. And basically that was kind of my way,
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: that was a peace offering. And so he said, well,
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  Speaker 1: when doing the Muppets, he wasn't sure about the approach.
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  Speaker 1: He was like, I don't know about it. But he said, well,
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  Speaker 1: whose recent episode people you had on? And they said
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: the four magic words, Vincent Price, Christopher Lee.
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  Speaker 6: He said, I'm in.
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  Speaker 8: That's all you need. Those guys are epic.
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  Speaker 16: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see. What other interviews have I had? I've had
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: four different wrestler interviews. Kane, Sergeant Slaughter, who put me
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: in the Cobra Clutch.
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  Speaker 8: You were asking for it. You know it.
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  Speaker 1: I literally did ask for it. He said, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to put you in the Cobra Clutch. I said, yes, please.
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  Speaker 1: Tapped almost immediately. Yes, master. He was, yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Put on the GIMP suit.
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  Speaker 15: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. GIMP sleeping. But yeah, he was awesome. Theodore Long,
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  Speaker 1: manager extraordinaire, SmackDown general manager. He was great. Booker T
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  Speaker 1: was not on my list of people. But he was
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  Speaker 1: thrown in. I'm like, yes, please. So he was cool.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see.
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  Speaker 8: I have an interesting tie-in for that. So yesterday, it's
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  Speaker 8: midway into the day. I'm trying to coordinate what I've
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  Speaker 8: got going on. And I'm like... As usual, I've got
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  Speaker 8: prep work in the morning, so I'm running behind and
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  Speaker 8: I'm like, I don't really have time to eat anything.
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  Speaker 8: Kids have a good solid breakfast. Don't follow my example.
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  Speaker 8: But I'm midway and I'm like, okay, I've got about
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  Speaker 8: an hour here before I have to get back over
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  Speaker 8: to do the other things. So let's go get some food.
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  Speaker 1: So it's funny.
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  Speaker 8: We're actually looking out the window at where I went.
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  Speaker 8: So there's a Mexican place that I went across the
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  Speaker 8: street from this convention center. And I'm standing in line
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  Speaker 8: and Again, like, I'm not so into wrestling, so I'm
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  Speaker 8: just standing in front of the counter, and there's a
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  Speaker 8: guy next to me, and I'm like, yeah, he's a
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  Speaker 8: pretty tall guy. And then I'm like, those are some
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  Speaker 8: impressive braids he has, like, kind of bound up into, again,
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  Speaker 8: a big ponytail, and I'm like, alright, alright. And again,
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  Speaker 8: don't pay any attention to it. When we get up
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  Speaker 8: to the register, the girl, there's a girl ringing people up,
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  Speaker 8: and the other girl back in the back is freaking out.
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  Speaker 8: And I'm just like, Okay, I guess he's from across
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  Speaker 8: the street. So what's funny is he, now this is
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  Speaker 8: where he did follow my lead. I'm like, put some
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  Speaker 8: sour cream on that. And he goes, hey, what'd you
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  Speaker 8: put on there? And I was like, oh, sour cream.
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  Speaker 8: He's like, yeah, give me some of that too. That
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  Speaker 8: looks good.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's awesome. I influenced his meal. That is amazing.
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  Speaker 8: But what I thought was the most impressive is, once again,
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  Speaker 8: the two levels of people who know and don't know.
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  Speaker 8: Cause the girl at the cash register was like, I
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  Speaker 8: don't know who that is. Why are you bugging me?
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  Speaker 8: And she's just like, she looks over at the girl
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  Speaker 8: who's like freaking out. And she just goes, can she
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  Speaker 8: take a picture with you? And he's like, all right.
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  Speaker 8: So he was totally cool. And it was just like,
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  Speaker 8: come here. And she, the girl was like, my heart
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  Speaker 8: is racing.
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  Speaker 13: Like she was freaking out.
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  Speaker 8: And like, He stood over there and took a picture
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  Speaker 8: with her and she went back and had to go
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  Speaker 8: do her dumb job the whole rest of the day.
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  Speaker 8: But he was totally cool with it and then took
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  Speaker 8: his new sour cream covered meal and went and ate.
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  Speaker 8: I thought for a minute I was hanging out with
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  Speaker 8: Booker T myself.
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  Speaker 1: And you influenced his media?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I brought him the wonders of sour cream.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he is royalty too. He was a king
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  Speaker 1: at one point during his career. So there you go.
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  Speaker 1: That's pretty good. You've influenced royalty.
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  Speaker 8: So again, I like that even I fall into that.
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  Speaker 8: So many other people are on the level where, because
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  Speaker 8: I'm so used to seeing celebrities at these, I don't
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  Speaker 8: hang out with them. Most of the time. But I
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  Speaker 8: at least know who everybody is. But wrestler is kind
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  Speaker 8: of a world that I'm like hit and miss on
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  Speaker 8: so many of them. So the fact that I'm standing
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  Speaker 8: right next to him the whole time and I'm like, oh, hey,
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  Speaker 8: how's it going? I had not a clue, really.
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  Speaker 17: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: According to me, just as we were on our way
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  Speaker 1: to do the show here, we passed by Kane, who I,
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  Speaker 1: of course, got to interview him. I've met him a
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  Speaker 1: couple of times before. Matter of fact, years and years ago,
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  Speaker 1: a show at the old Louisville Gardens here. Yeah. I
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: worked security there. and got to be his security escort
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: at the end of the night. So I had to
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: make sure Kane was safely escorted to his vehicle.
• 14:59
  Speaker 8: I would hope so. Someone might jump him and beat
• 15:01
  Speaker 8: him down.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: He was perfectly fine. And, of course, this was before
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: the point he had unmasked. So, I mean, old wrestling
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: fans knew him as Isaac Yankum DDS, the worst dentist
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: in all of wrestling.
• 15:12
  Speaker 10: Oh, Lord.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: And then he transitioned to the cage.
• 15:15
  Speaker 8: You sure that doesn't have a garbage pail, kid?
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: No, but that's pretty close. There was a garbage man wrestler,
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: Duke the Dumpster Drozy.
• 15:22
  Speaker 8: All right, we got that.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: Just ask me about some wrestling history. I got you covered, man.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so, you know, just had an interview with him,
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: you know, probably about 24 hours ago as we're walking by.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: I said, hey, the cane. And he said my name.
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 15:36
  Speaker 6: George.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you know my name.
• 15:39
  Speaker 8: It's weird when that happens, isn't it?
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: It really is. It is. That's happened like once before
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: with a celebrity, but it was like, it was a
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: local comedian, but still, he was a popular guy, and
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, you know my name too. So, yes,
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: that's always... That's always a big thrill.
• 15:53
  Speaker 8: It happened to me once this weekend that, again, I
• 15:55
  Speaker 8: can go into later. That's awesome. But it was very
• 15:57
  Speaker 8: weird that, like, during their Q & A, they referenced
• 16:00
  Speaker 8: me in the audience by name. And I was like,
• 16:03
  Speaker 8: that was a long time ago. Why do you still? Okay,
• 16:05
  Speaker 8: never mind. So it's cool when people are just people
• 16:09
  Speaker 8: and they just have a conversation. That's what I like
• 16:12
  Speaker 8: is kind of connecting with these people. Absolutely.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: My policy is that if I'm walking away from an
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: interview with somebody, I want them smiling and happy that
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: I was there talking to them. Yeah, I'll make a
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: good impression. I'm not going to try to railroad somebody.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: 90% of the time, I'm a fan of them already
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: and know their career probably better than they do.
• 16:31
  Speaker 8: I've run into that, too. I've referenced movies that people
• 16:33
  Speaker 8: are like, wait, I was in that?
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, never mind, then. Or my other couple interviews I did,
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Lauren Lester, the voice of Robin for Batman, the animated series,
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: and Diane Pershing, who was Poison Ivy. I referenced the
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: old Defenders of Earth, Flash Gordon, Mandrake, the Phantom series
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: that both Lauren and Diane were a part of. And
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Diane was very impressed that I knew what I was
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: talking about there. It's Flash Gordon stuff, of course. But yeah,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: so that was a great thrill. Getting to talk to
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Lauren Lester, apparently I knew his career better than he
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: did because I was bringing up him doing the voice
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: for Barbecue in the G.I. Joe show and Rock and
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: roll high school. And let's see. Oh, and a little
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: tidbit here. The new kids in the block cartoon. He
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: was the voice of Jordan Knight.
• 17:18
  Speaker 8: Jordan can't even do his own voice.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: None of the new kids do their own voice.
• 17:21
  Speaker 8: Come on, Donnie. You're an actor.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Step up.
• 17:27
  Speaker 8: Oh, I watch Blue Bloods every week like everybody does.
• 17:30
  Speaker 8: It's fine.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, Supercon has really been fantastic out here.
• 17:36
  Speaker 8: So, here's the thing that I think, because you're referencing
• 17:39
  Speaker 8: your interviews.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: Sure, yeah.
• 17:40
  Speaker 8: I think you're way more practiced at this part of it.
• 17:44
  Speaker 8: Because here, this was a very... professionally run i will
• 17:49
  Speaker 8: say i'm impressed with this this is the first time
• 17:51
  Speaker 8: they've been to louisville right so this is a really
• 17:53
  Speaker 8: well put together and just dealing with their again a
• 17:57
  Speaker 8: big shout out to their best person i've dealt with
• 17:59
  Speaker 8: all weekend and she's been great.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Sammy yes sammy's been awesome she's.
• 18:02
  Speaker 8: Been great so like the it's one of the most
• 18:05
  Speaker 8: impressively run that i've dealt with but it's super busy
• 18:09
  Speaker 8: they get a lot going on so everything is quick
• 18:13
  Speaker 8: in and out kind of thing yeah You've heard the
• 18:16
  Speaker 8: show before. I ramble on for a really long time.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: I can do that as well.
• 18:21
  Speaker 8: But you've got it where you can do your five-minute
• 18:23
  Speaker 8: interview and get out. I don't ever know how to
• 18:26
  Speaker 8: approach those. I'm like, by the time I get started,
• 18:28
  Speaker 8: because it's my go-to now, is like, okay, I want
• 18:31
  Speaker 8: to start from the beginning. Let's go through your whole life.
• 18:33
  Speaker 8: And that's hard to do in five minutes.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 18:35
  Speaker 8: So trying to force myself into the... You'll hear as
• 18:39
  Speaker 8: we go through our interviews this episode, they're all way
• 18:42
  Speaker 8: shorter than I'm used to doing.
• 18:43
  Speaker 11: Mm-hmm.
• 18:44
  Speaker 8: And some of them will just be like, eh, we're
• 18:46
  Speaker 8: wrapping up. So as we get started, we're just as
• 18:50
  Speaker 8: quickly wrapping up. So the first of those I was
• 18:54
  Speaker 8: going to throw out there, I did talk to Sam Jones,
• 18:58
  Speaker 8: who is.
• 19:01
  Speaker 8: Again, this is one that it's kind of hard to
• 19:04
  Speaker 8: just graze that because... he has a huge story there.
• 19:08
  Speaker 8: Like there's so much that went on in his life
• 19:11
  Speaker 8: that I think you could talk for hours and hours
• 19:13
  Speaker 8: and still just be uncovering more crazy things that happened
• 19:16
  Speaker 8: to him. So like, yeah, this is, this is just
• 19:19
  Speaker 8: a bear. It's the tip of the iceberg, but you
• 19:23
  Speaker 8: do get like, he does kind of much like I expected.
• 19:26
  Speaker 8: He's somewhere between, uh, drill instructor and a motivational speaker
• 19:31
  Speaker 8: right like he's just so like again he's he's he's
• 19:34
  Speaker 8: marine so like he's still got that kind of built
• 19:37
  Speaker 8: into him yeah that's still there yeah but he's also
• 19:39
  Speaker 8: very like go out and do something with your life
• 19:41
  Speaker 8: and like that's pretty impressive so it's kind of fun
• 19:45
  Speaker 8: listening to him deliver this so I'm gonna let you
• 19:48
  Speaker 8: guys do that right now I always try to get
• 20:15
  Speaker 8: at the very beginning and sort of see how people
• 20:17
  Speaker 8: found their way into the business. So, originally from Chicago?
• 20:21
  Speaker 18: No, I was born there. They took me away, I think,
• 20:24
  Speaker 18: four months old. My dad was military. So, I was
• 20:27
  Speaker 18: born at the Great Lakes Naval Hospital.
• 20:30
  Speaker 8: Were you, early on, were you, again, which direction did
• 20:34
  Speaker 8: you go? Did you already get kind of, like, interested
• 20:36
  Speaker 8: in the military because of that?
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, yeah, my dad was Army. I think
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: he was only in for eight years.
• 20:42
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: So I joined the Marine Corps right out of high school.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: I was going to be a lifer.
• 20:48
  Speaker 18: Then I started playing Marine Corps football and I said, oh,
• 20:52
  Speaker 18: I said, I think I'm pretty good. I think the
• 20:53
  Speaker 18: NFL needs me. So I finished up in the Corps
• 20:57
  Speaker 18: and went to Seattle. That's where my grandparents were. 1976.
• 21:03
  Speaker 18: And tried out.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: And they said, no, we don't need you.
• 21:09
  Speaker 18: I played one year on their practice squad called the
• 21:12
  Speaker 18: Burien Flyers, and shortly thereafter, I read an article about
• 21:20
  Speaker 18: Clint Eastwood, and that inspired me to go to Hollywood, 1976.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: Well, I think early 77, yeah.
• 21:29
  Speaker 8: The only thing more reliable than professional sports is, you know, Hollywood,
• 21:33
  Speaker 8: as far as having a long-term career.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: Well, it's not reliable, no.
• 21:37
  Speaker 12: I know.
• 21:38
  Speaker 18: I mean, I was just telling that young lady, I
• 21:41
  Speaker 18: was giving her the statistics that only 3% of every
• 21:44
  Speaker 18: actor in the world can pay his or her bills
• 21:47
  Speaker 18: off of movie jobs only.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: So what's the other end of that?
• 21:51
  Speaker 18: That means 97% of every actor or actress has to
• 21:56
  Speaker 18: have a secondary income to pay their bills.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:00
  Speaker 8: Did you start off? I mean, again, obviously you had to.
• 22:03
  Speaker 8: How many jobs did you have going trying to get
• 22:05
  Speaker 8: the acting?
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 22:06
  Speaker 18: I took that Marine Corps attitude with me. First of all,
• 22:11
  Speaker 18: you just don't go and try something because, oh, I
• 22:13
  Speaker 18: want to give it a try. Because if that's your mindset, oh,
• 22:17
  Speaker 18: I think I want to give it a try, you're
• 22:19
  Speaker 18: already going into it sort of standard thinking, which to me,
• 22:23
  Speaker 18: standard thinking is substandard.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: It's way below average.
• 22:26
  Speaker 8: The rest of those percentage.
• 22:28
  Speaker 18: You got to go into it knowing and believing that
• 22:32
  Speaker 18: you belong, that you really belong there.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: And I believe that that's where I belong. So I didn't,
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: I wasn't moved.
• 22:39
  Speaker 18: I had a different, in other words, if I walked
• 22:42
  Speaker 18: into an audition in the little lobby area with 20
• 22:45
  Speaker 18: guys that looked like me, I never for one minute thought, oh,
• 22:50
  Speaker 18: that's my competition.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: My mind was, oh.
• 22:54
  Speaker 18: They either want Sam Jones or they want somebody else.
• 22:56
  Speaker 18: And I'm, I'm not going to take offense, but I'm
• 22:58
  Speaker 18: going to go on this, this interview here. And I'm
• 23:01
  Speaker 18: going to believe that they're going to choose me. And I,
• 23:04
  Speaker 18: so I never got bothered by, Oh, so-and-so's at the,
• 23:08
  Speaker 18: at the audition. So-and-so's up for that part, because that's
• 23:11
  Speaker 18: just all this stuff. The, the outer lane stuff that
• 23:14
  Speaker 18: just will hinder you. And, and it's a big obstacle
• 23:18
  Speaker 18: for the path that is set before you. So I've
• 23:21
  Speaker 18: kind of been, and you know, I think when I
• 23:23
  Speaker 18: started getting a little bit too good for my own
• 23:26
  Speaker 18: shoes as the years went on, you start to read.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Your own press.
• 23:31
  Speaker 18: I mean, if you read how great you are in
• 23:32
  Speaker 18: a movie, does that mean you're going to read and
• 23:35
  Speaker 18: believe if they write something negative about you? So I
• 23:38
  Speaker 18: stopped reading that. And I will say Hollywood, unless you're grounded,
• 23:44
  Speaker 18: you will get a little bit tainted, you know. So
• 23:47
  Speaker 18: just keep it real. You know, remember your upbringing. And
• 23:52
  Speaker 18: you've got to believe that this is where you belong. Otherwise,
• 23:56
  Speaker 18: you get another career.
• 23:57
  Speaker 8: You're the other 97%. So then, again, going into Flash,
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: you seem like you were tailor-made for it, but how
• 24:06
  Speaker 8: many people were up there fighting for that part?
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: You know, that's a great question. Dino De Laurentiis' casting
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: model was different. The actors will go in one door
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: and leave another door different times. You would never. I'm serious.
• 24:22
  Speaker 18: Now, some of the leading ladies you'd see there, but
• 24:25
  Speaker 18: the men you'd never see. I mean, they told me
• 24:28
  Speaker 18: years later it was Kurt Russell, who I'm a big
• 24:30
  Speaker 18: fan of. And then Arnold Schwarzenegger was there, too.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: But yeah.
• 24:36
  Speaker 18: But Kurt, have you seen Kurt in the latest movie?
• 24:38
  Speaker 18: He's incredible at Santa Claus. That guy's freaking talented, man.
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: Everything, even the Guardians of the Galaxy. Like, he continues
• 24:46
  Speaker 8: to find new career paths, yeah. So then, I mean,
• 24:50
  Speaker 8: you get in there, like, how overwhelming is that? Like,
• 24:53
  Speaker 8: I guess you were at least familiar with the character,
• 24:55
  Speaker 8: but that's a pretty huge universe to kind of take
• 24:57
  Speaker 8: under your shoulder.
• 24:59
  Speaker 18: Yeah, you know, it was such a long audition process.
• 25:02
  Speaker 18: I mean, it went on for many, many months. And
• 25:04
  Speaker 18: then finally they.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Flew me to England, and we didn't have video in 79.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: It was all film. So you did the old-fashioned Hollywood
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: screen test.
• 25:17
  Speaker 18: And then, you know, 30 days of that, I finally,
• 25:20
  Speaker 18: and then maybe seven months before that of meetings, they
• 25:23
  Speaker 18: finally said, okay, you're the guy.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: And I just thought I was so relieved. I said, great,
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: let's do it.
• 25:28
  Speaker 18: It wasn't really, and that was kind of sad because
• 25:31
  Speaker 18: there really wasn't any celebratory type moment. It was more
• 25:37
  Speaker 18: just tension and, Now the tension's relieved. Now there's more
• 25:40
  Speaker 18: tension because we're going to be shooting in three days.
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: So straight to the set then.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right.
• 25:46
  Speaker 8: Well, those, again, I was just re-watching it this week.
• 25:48
  Speaker 8: Those sets are kind of amazing. Like, what is it
• 25:51
  Speaker 8: like being in the middle of that?
• 25:52
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, I loved it.
• 25:53
  Speaker 18: But I had to block that out because I knew
• 25:56
  Speaker 18: that I had to because it was overwhelming. My first
• 25:59
  Speaker 18: lead role, all these incredible, iconic actors, and I started
• 26:04
  Speaker 18: looking at the sets and it was overwhelming. So I
• 26:07
  Speaker 18: heard that voice of reason say stop it don't worry
• 26:10
  Speaker 18: about this now don't even enjoy that stuff now because
• 26:14
  Speaker 18: all that's going to do is take you away from
• 26:17
  Speaker 18: your task at hand so i immediately started to focus
• 26:20
  Speaker 18: on what is requested of me at this very moment
• 26:25
  Speaker 18: and that's what i did that's how i how i did.
• 26:27
  Speaker 8: It um well then the i mean The TED revival, like,
• 26:32
  Speaker 8: could you have ever seen that coming and what people's
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: response would be to convening?
• 26:36
  Speaker 18: Well, again, you know, in my older years now, which
• 26:39
  Speaker 18: is incredible, I mean, I love this time in my life.
• 26:42
  Speaker 18: And it's actually, you hear people say when they get
• 26:45
  Speaker 18: older it's getting better. Well, it really is because now
• 26:47
  Speaker 18: I'm getting phone calls.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm more mature.
• 26:50
  Speaker 18: I don't take offense like I used to. So I'm
• 26:53
  Speaker 18: getting these calls now from decision makers who were once
• 26:57
  Speaker 18: 8-year-old kids, Seth McFarlane. I got a call from him
• 27:02
  Speaker 18: 8 years ago saying, Hey, when I was 8 years old, Sam,
• 27:06
  Speaker 18: I saw your movie. It changed my life. I'm directing
• 27:09
  Speaker 18: my first movie.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Do you want to come on board? Boom. So that's
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: what's happening now. It's wonderful.
• 27:15
  Speaker 8: And the nerd fight. It might break out here, you know.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Flash!
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: Oh! Master of the Universe!
• 27:31
  Speaker 9: Flash! King of the Impossible!
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Just a man with a man.
• 27:43
  Speaker 8: Knowing that this event was coming up, I did just
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: re-watch Flash Gordon.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Of course. A classic, in my opinion.
• 27:50
  Speaker 8: And insane like I it's one of those like I
• 27:53
  Speaker 8: remember it but it's been a long time since I
• 27:56
  Speaker 8: sat down and watched it and I'm just like this
• 27:59
  Speaker 8: got made. Like, it's so crazy.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: It is Italian. It is colorful. It is ridiculous. But
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: it is Flash Gordon.
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: It looks amazing. Like, those sets. I love those practical sets. Like,
• 28:12
  Speaker 8: you know they're not standing in front of a green screen.
• 28:14
  Speaker 15: Oh, yeah.
• 28:14
  Speaker 8: Someone built all these sets and painted that backdrop. And, like,
• 28:17
  Speaker 8: everything is just, like, amazing that someone physically.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Did all that.
• 28:21
  Speaker 8: But also, like, I'm watching it going, like, it's, like,
• 28:24
  Speaker 8: a page and a half of plot. Like, it's all just...
• 28:28
  Speaker 8: exposition and like it just goes on from there like
• 28:31
  Speaker 8: but there's very little that like has to happen it's
• 28:34
  Speaker 8: all just kind of like and now we hang out
• 28:35
  Speaker 8: over here for a while and then they get in
• 28:37
  Speaker 8: a fight and then we go over here and we're
• 28:38
  Speaker 8: gonna have an uprising and then that's the end of
• 28:41
  Speaker 8: the movie like but I'm like it's so minimal and
• 28:44
  Speaker 8: what's set up it's such a strange structure for a film.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know I mean those days though I mean
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: the Flash Gordon stuff I mean it kept to kind
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: of the simple serials I mean basically it's like you
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: know Ming wants to blow up Earth Flash has to
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: stop him Go. That's your movie.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: What else do you need?
• 29:01
  Speaker 8: Let's talk about that Ming performance, too.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, come on.
• 29:04
  Speaker 8: The makeup is so, like, I'm kind of like, okay, yeah,
• 29:06
  Speaker 8: I mean, I hear it in the voice more than anything,
• 29:08
  Speaker 8: but I'm like, you almost can't even make out that
• 29:10
  Speaker 8: it's him because they did such a good job on
• 29:13
  Speaker 8: that weird Ming makeup that I'm just like, he's so
• 29:15
  Speaker 8: creepy and he's the ultimate villain.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: It's very similar. I saw a recent documentary about the
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: whole He-Man, Master Universe stuff, and they were talking about
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Frank Langella, who played Skeletor in the Master Universe movie.
• 29:28
  Speaker 8: Another genius performance.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Which he absolutely loved that role.
• 29:31
  Speaker 10: Oh, yeah.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: He got into it because his son was into Master
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Universe stuff, and he just went for it, and he
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: is the best thing about that movie, hands down.
• 29:40
  Speaker 8: That is one of those. I mean, you can just
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: feel him having fun inside that suit. It comes through.
• 29:45
  Speaker 8: And there's a lot of other issues with that movie.
• 29:47
  Speaker 8: But I'm like, none of it's Frank Langella. He is
• 29:50
  Speaker 8: swinging for the fences.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: I think Max von Sydow had basically the same kind
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: of feel to that. He had fun in that role. Definitely. Definitely.
• 29:57
  Speaker 8: I kind of wanted more of him. I'm like, he's
• 29:58
  Speaker 8: really not in it as much as you would expect
• 30:00
  Speaker 8: him to be.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: I know. And of course they do the whole kind of,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: you know, the end question mark. And it's like, we
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: never got a sequel. I'm like, what is up with that?
• 30:08
  Speaker 8: Another one of those movies that didn't quite deliver the
• 30:10
  Speaker 8: way I think the studio had planned. I think they
• 30:13
  Speaker 8: wanted that to be the.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Next Star Wars.
• 30:15
  Speaker 11: Oh, yeah.
• 30:16
  Speaker 8: And it wasn't Star Wars. People that love Star Wars
• 30:18
  Speaker 8: showed up for that and were like, wait, what is
• 30:20
  Speaker 8: going on here?
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: I'm a lifelong devotee of Star Wars and I love
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Mason Flash Gordon.
• 30:25
  Speaker 10: Oh, yeah.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: I watch it at least once a year.
• 30:27
  Speaker 8: But it's a very different mode. Like, it's just two
• 30:29
  Speaker 8: different universes.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: So, like. Well, basically, Flash Gordon could be like if
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Star Wars took a lot of acid and then drank
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: some slow gin fizz or something. I don't know, whatever.
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  Speaker 8: I think any of those bars that hang out in
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: Star Wars, you go to the cantina, you can get
• 30:43
  Speaker 8: hooked up. You'll get some death sticks and some sort
• 30:45
  Speaker 8: of acid-type thing. You'll be fine.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, sure, yeah. I've got a short list of movies
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I grew up with that I watch on a regular
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: basis and absolutely loved the day I die, and Flash
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: is definitely one of those movies.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 30:57
  Speaker 8: Well, one of the other ones I've been... Hoping I
• 31:01
  Speaker 8: could make this happen for years and didn't really expect
• 31:03
  Speaker 8: to because this guest hasn't been doing shows anymore that
• 31:07
  Speaker 8: I've seen. So when they added Riku Browning, I was like, okay, well,
• 31:12
  Speaker 8: first of all, I'm bringing my post because we had
• 31:15
  Speaker 8: Julie Adams on years ago. I have a creature mini
• 31:18
  Speaker 8: poster signed by Julie. And I'm like, if I can
• 31:20
  Speaker 8: get the creature also on there, like that's amazing. So
• 31:25
  Speaker 8: luckily also got to sit down. This is one of
• 31:29
  Speaker 8: those that very quickly I could tell, I'm like, I
• 31:32
  Speaker 8: need to be done. I need to wrap this up.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Sure, yeah.
• 31:35
  Speaker 8: And I'm like, he's very nice. You'll hear it in
• 31:38
  Speaker 8: the interview. But I start, again, I know he's done
• 31:42
  Speaker 8: a lot of other things that he's equally as proud
• 31:43
  Speaker 8: of because everybody wants to kind of, everybody loves the
• 31:46
  Speaker 8: Universal Monsters. So they all kind of like jump on
• 31:48
  Speaker 8: that and want to talk about the creature. Rightfully so.
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah.
• 31:51
  Speaker 8: But he had a whole career. He did a lot
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: of other stuff. So I know sometimes he probably gets overloaded.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: I'm sure, yeah.
• 31:57
  Speaker 8: But I start delving into other, I'm like, let's talk
• 31:59
  Speaker 8: about Thunderball. Let's talk about this other crazy movie that
• 32:01
  Speaker 8: you made.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah.
• 32:03
  Speaker 8: I think he's, he's like 88. Like, I think he's
• 32:06
  Speaker 8: just tired.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 32:08
  Speaker 8: So I, by the time I left, I was just like,
• 32:10
  Speaker 8: thank you just for coming out, man. This is great.
• 32:12
  Speaker 8: So the fact that I get to sit down and
• 32:14
  Speaker 8: talk to him is amazing. So, yeah.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: It really is, yeah.
• 32:17
  Speaker 8: It wraps up quickly, but I'm glad to talk to him.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: While the city was asleep, the arse was back in.
• 32:24
  Speaker 10: Maidan.
• 32:24
  Speaker 7: It was blood from And taken.
• 32:30
  Speaker 10: Away to a home.
• 32:32
  Speaker 9: Down under The borders of an open bay.
• 32:36
  Speaker 19: By the creature from the Black Lagoon A strange to see.
• 32:42
  Speaker 7: Him act so soon That there is nothing can We'll
• 32:47
  Speaker 7: be right back.
• 33:10
  Speaker 8: I'm always kind of fascinated by people that end up
• 33:13
  Speaker 8: in the movie business and didn't really start that way.
• 33:16
  Speaker 8: So with you, I mean, you grew up in Florida
• 33:18
  Speaker 8: and then were involved in scuba diving. How early on
• 33:21
  Speaker 8: did you kind of get involved in just scuba diving
• 33:24
  Speaker 8: in general?
• 33:26
  Speaker 15: I was a lifeguard at Wakulla Spring here in Tallahassee, Florida.
• 33:32
  Speaker 15: And the general manager taught us all how to hose breathe.
• 33:36
  Speaker 15: So in the movie, I hose breathed, and I didn't
• 33:40
  Speaker 15: have to learn anything. I already did it. And the
• 33:43
  Speaker 15: way I swim underwater is the way the creature swam,
• 33:49
  Speaker 15: so I didn't have to learn anything. And it was
• 33:53
  Speaker 15: a very enjoyable show.
• 33:54
  Speaker 8: Well, then, I mean, as you got into, once they
• 33:58
  Speaker 8: started doing the creature, was there a specific reason why
• 34:00
  Speaker 8: they wanted to break it up into two? Because they
• 34:02
  Speaker 8: obviously needed you for the swimming, but why did they
• 34:04
  Speaker 8: want someone else on the land version?
• 34:06
  Speaker 15: They wanted the creature to look big. And I was
• 34:10
  Speaker 15: six feet at the time. And the actors they used
• 34:14
  Speaker 15: topside were 6'4, 6'5. And Tom Hennessey was in the
• 34:21
  Speaker 15: second film. Ben Chapman was in the first film. And
• 34:25
  Speaker 15: Don McGowan was in the third film.
• 34:28
  Speaker 8: I mean, how difficult was it sort of trying to
• 34:31
  Speaker 8: get yourself down there? Because I know I've seen you
• 34:33
  Speaker 8: had weights in the suit just to keep yourself because
• 34:36
  Speaker 8: it was so buoyant. So between working with the weighted
• 34:39
  Speaker 8: suit and then having to breathe through the hose, how
• 34:41
  Speaker 8: much coordination for each shot did you have to do?
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Quite a bit.
• 34:48
  Speaker 15: Funny story was I was underwater and the water temperature
• 34:53
  Speaker 15: was 71 degrees. And at that time of the year,
• 34:57
  Speaker 15: the topside temperature was 49. So it was pretty chilly.
• 35:04
  Speaker 15: So when I came out of the water, I take
• 35:07
  Speaker 15: the head off, and I got pretty chilly because we
• 35:11
  Speaker 15: sat out on a barge. And members of the crew
• 35:15
  Speaker 15: felt sorry for me, so they asked me if I
• 35:18
  Speaker 15: wanted a little shot of brandy.
• 35:20
  Speaker 8: I said, sure.
• 35:22
  Speaker 15: Well, each crew member didn't know that The other one
• 35:25
  Speaker 15: had given me brandy, so they had a drunk creature
• 35:29
  Speaker 15: for a while.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: Anyway.
• 35:31
  Speaker 8: Swimming all over the place, weaving back and forth.
• 35:34
  Speaker 15: Yeah, right.
• 35:36
  Speaker 8: Well, some of the other stuff, again, I know you
• 35:38
  Speaker 8: get so much attention for the creature, but the fact
• 35:40
  Speaker 8: that you coordinated underwater for Thunderball is kind of amazing.
• 35:44
  Speaker 8: That was a lot of people. How do you get
• 35:46
  Speaker 8: that many people coordinated to do some underwater shot?
• 35:50
  Speaker 15: Well, we hired.
• 35:52
  Speaker 15: I guess, all of the scuba clubs in Florida to
• 35:57
  Speaker 15: send divers over. And we had to train them to
• 36:01
  Speaker 15: swim like we wanted them to for the film. And
• 36:06
  Speaker 15: at first, it was a little awkward. But after a
• 36:09
  Speaker 15: bunch of rehearsals, it worked out very well.
• 36:13
  Speaker 8: That's a lot of people to coordinate. So you do
• 36:15
  Speaker 8: a lot of planning topside beforehand.
• 36:17
  Speaker 15: Yeah, we worked on a barge. And we rehearsed the
• 36:21
  Speaker 15: scenes before we we'd go down. And if it went well,
• 36:25
  Speaker 15: we'd continue. If it didn't, we'd come back up, rehearse
• 36:30
  Speaker 15: it again on the barge, and try again.
• 36:35
  Speaker 8: I was looking at some of the other stuff, too,
• 36:37
  Speaker 8: like Hello Down There. It seems like a crazy concept
• 36:40
  Speaker 8: that they, to get Greenlit to make a movie, so
• 36:43
  Speaker 8: you got the underwater scenes on that one, right?
• 36:46
  Speaker 15: Yeah, I had worked with Jack Arnold on a number
• 36:48
  Speaker 15: of shows, and he said, just go over to Nassau
• 36:53
  Speaker 15: shoot your thing and uh richard dreyfus i think he's
• 36:57
  Speaker 15: at the show uh sang for the first time and
• 37:05
  Speaker 15: and i'm i met with him the last show i
• 37:07
  Speaker 15: was at and i said how did you like the
• 37:10
  Speaker 15: sharks he says no how do you like the sharks
• 37:14
  Speaker 15: i said a lot of fun.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: For me, when I'm interviewing somebody, I want to celebrate
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: their entire catalog, not just like the one main reason
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: they're there. And I think they appreciate that when you
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: bring up the other stuff they've done and appreciate that
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: as well. Because if I had the moment to talk
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: to Sam Jones, I would most certainly bring up The Highwayman. Oh, yeah.
• 37:52
  Speaker 8: I kind of wanted to and knew I wasn't going
• 37:53
  Speaker 8: to have time.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Because that was just such a really fun series. It
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: only lasted a season. I mean, come on, have the
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: guy from the Energizer battery commercials, Jocko, in it. I
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: had no idea what other kind of acting credentials he
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: had back then, aside from the Energizer commercials. But here
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: he is playing second fiddle to Sam Jones.
• 38:10
  Speaker 8: Well, Riku, that's the thing. He did so many other things.
• 38:14
  Speaker 8: And the one I just brought up there... hello down there. Okay,
• 38:18
  Speaker 8: he's the director of underwater sequences. But look at the cat. This,
• 38:21
  Speaker 8: first of all, is a movie where it's them doing
• 38:25
  Speaker 8: this test idea of like, okay, we're going to build
• 38:27
  Speaker 8: a house, only it's going to be on the bottom
• 38:29
  Speaker 8: of the ocean. So like, it's going to be underwater,
• 38:31
  Speaker 8: this entire little, it's sort of like Biodome before Biodome.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 38:36
  Speaker 8: But basically, they want to take a family down there
• 38:38
  Speaker 8: and do like a test run on it. So your
• 38:40
  Speaker 8: cast in this is Tony Randall, Janet Leigh, Roddy McDowell,
• 38:44
  Speaker 8: Jim Backus. A young Richard Dreyfuss is in the rock
• 38:47
  Speaker 8: band that happens to play. So Richard Dreyfuss, also here
• 38:50
  Speaker 8: this weekend, by the way, is playing bass or something
• 38:53
  Speaker 8: in the band that happens to be down there. Again,
• 38:56
  Speaker 8: it's in the sort of late 60s, very hip band
• 38:59
  Speaker 8: hanging out. You can tell they're trying to jump on
• 39:01
  Speaker 8: that groovy bandwagon that was going on of movies being
• 39:04
  Speaker 8: made at that point.
• 39:05
  Speaker 11: Uh-huh.
• 39:05
  Speaker 8: But yeah the fact that you've got like tony randall
• 39:07
  Speaker 8: and janet lee are the lead the family that you
• 39:10
  Speaker 8: know the head of family that gets sent down i'm
• 39:12
  Speaker 8: just like.
• 39:13
  Speaker 13: How did this come to be and then you're doing
• 39:17
  Speaker 13: underwater sequences so like i i wanted to talk about
• 39:20
  Speaker 13: that for hours um there's also some movies he wrote
• 39:23
  Speaker 13: there's one that he directed.
• 39:24
  Speaker 8: That i'm i don't even think i'm going to name
• 39:26
  Speaker 8: it yet because I feel like we're probably going to
• 39:28
  Speaker 8: come back to it. But the fact that he went
• 39:30
  Speaker 8: into directing film and writing, I mean, he created flipper essentially.
• 39:34
  Speaker 8: Like he's one of the original writers of the first
• 39:36
  Speaker 8: flipper movie. I then went on to produce the TV
• 39:39
  Speaker 8: show and wrote for the show. And I'm just like, Oh,
• 39:42
  Speaker 8: these things. I'm like, I, there's so much more I
• 39:45
  Speaker 8: want to talk to you about. But again, He's tired.
• 39:47
  Speaker 8: He doesn't want me asking him crazy questions.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: Sure, yeah.
• 39:49
  Speaker 8: So I just was thankful he came out and was
• 39:52
  Speaker 8: part of the show because, yeah, that was awesome.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, for me, I mean, all my interviews
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: mostly are on Facebook. And so I was like, well,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm just sitting there watching. I was like, yeah,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: let's try to keep it a couple of minutes.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: Why not?
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: So John Wesley Shipp, I probably went close to 10
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: minutes on. Lauren Lester actually went on with him quite
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: a while, too. I mean, he's got such a career
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: that I have, you know, things I love. So it's
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: like those are the two I think I had the
• 40:10
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• 40:18
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  Speaker 3: This is Julie Adams, and you are listening to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 7: It's part of your problem, you know, you haven't seen
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  Speaker 2: All of life's riddles are answered in the movies.
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  Speaker 4: And now, on with the show.
• 47:08
  Speaker 8: I mean, the next one is, again, one of those
• 47:12
  Speaker 8: that was in a monumental film in my life. And
• 47:16
  Speaker 8: I also have heard many stories about her over the
• 47:19
  Speaker 8: years that I was like, oh, this could be interesting.
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  Speaker 8: So when I got signed on to talk to Patricia Quinn... Ooh,
• 47:25
  Speaker 8: there you go. I'm just like, I, again... If you're
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  Speaker 8: old school here, I hung out at the Vogue Theater
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  Speaker 8: pretty much weekly at the Rocky show. And I was
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  Speaker 8: so attached to that movie and then the idea of
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  Speaker 8: the years. So I'd also heard, again, we were discussing
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  Speaker 8: that as we were kind of waiting. One of the
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  Speaker 8: people just waiting in line to get it autographed. They
• 47:57
  Speaker 8: like started talking to us and we're just like, you know,
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  Speaker 8: if she was normal, I'd be disappointed. I want eccentric.
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• 48:08
  Speaker 8: is so fun and just so exactly what you would
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  Speaker 8: expect the, the real world magenta to be great. And
• 48:16
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• 48:18
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• 48:21
  Speaker 8: I'm going to, I'm going to talk about Rocky. Cause
• 48:23
  Speaker 8: that's what I guess you have to talk about.
• 48:24
  Speaker 15: Sure.
• 48:24
  Speaker 8: But, uh, I'm right at the end of wrapping up
• 48:26
  Speaker 8: and I'm like, okay, I'm going to throw the other
• 48:28
  Speaker 8: one in that I wanted to at least mention. You'll
• 48:31
  Speaker 8: hear her response to it. You're one of the few
• 48:57
  Speaker 8: that was originally from the play. I guess what was
• 49:00
  Speaker 8: the first time you heard about the play version of
• 49:03
  Speaker 8: Rocky Horror?
• 49:04
  Speaker 22: My agent told me they were making a play for
• 49:07
  Speaker 22: three weeks upstairs at the Royal Court, and you had
• 49:11
  Speaker 22: to sing a rock and roll song and go and audition.
• 49:15
  Speaker 22: And I said, what's it called? I'd forgotten even if
• 49:18
  Speaker 22: it had the name then, because it was going to
• 49:19
  Speaker 22: be Rocky Horror. to be They Came from Denton High.
• 49:21
  Speaker 22: He didn't call it that then. Anyway, Jim Sharman, who
• 49:25
  Speaker 22: directed Jesus Christ Superstar, went to the Royal Court and
• 49:30
  Speaker 22: directed the first Sam Shepard play there, and he said
• 49:34
  Speaker 22: to them, I have this little musical, because it was
• 49:36
  Speaker 22: Richard O'Brien who was playing Herod, in Jesus Christ. He
• 49:41
  Speaker 22: said to Sharman, because he got the sack, because he
• 49:45
  Speaker 22: was no good as Herod, and he said to Sharman,
• 49:49
  Speaker 22: I got this little musical, would.
• 49:50
  Speaker 14: You be interested? He said, yeah, I'm interested.
• 49:55
  Speaker 22: And Jim Sharman, I didn't say genius lightly, but his
• 49:59
  Speaker 22: words come, and he can do it. So without him,
• 50:04
  Speaker 22: without all of them, we were an amazing melting pot
• 50:07
  Speaker 22: of talent.
• 50:08
  Speaker 14: Amazing.
• 50:10
  Speaker 22: From designer to dress designer to writer to us, actors.
• 50:17
  Speaker 22: We were wonderful, even though I said it myself. And
• 50:21
  Speaker 22: it was written while we were rehearsing. It wasn't written overnight.
• 50:26
  Speaker 22: And Julie Covington, who was one of the top singers,
• 50:29
  Speaker 22: she was the first one to sing Evita on record.
• 50:32
  Speaker 22: They wanted her to play it, but she turned it down.
• 50:34
  Speaker 22: She was always clever like that. Anyway, and they thought,
• 50:40
  Speaker 22: get her a song because she can sing. So they
• 50:43
  Speaker 22: came in overnight with Touchy, Touchy, Trash Me, I Want
• 50:46
  Speaker 22: to Be Dirty, and she said, that's filthy, I'm not
• 50:49
  Speaker 22: singing that. We all agreed with her. Ugh, dirty song. Anyway,
• 50:54
  Speaker 22: she sang it. And the answer is, I auditioned. Little
• 50:59
  Speaker 22: Nell says she slept with the director, but I honestly didn't.
• 51:03
  Speaker 8: That does sound like something she would say.
• 51:06
  Speaker 15: Yes, quite.
• 51:07
  Speaker 8: Was the charrette already in play at that point? Like
• 51:11
  Speaker 8: you started off doing that song from the very beginning?
• 51:14
  Speaker 22: That's the only reason I took the part, was I
• 51:17
  Speaker 22: couldn't sing a rock and roll song. I could sing
• 51:20
  Speaker 22: Maria from West Side Story, but I wasn't a rocker.
• 51:23
  Speaker 22: So I went in and sang a 1930s song, and
• 51:26
  Speaker 22: they looked at me a little oddly, of course. They said,
• 51:30
  Speaker 22: have you got the sheet music?
• 51:31
  Speaker 14: I said, the what's?
• 51:33
  Speaker 22: I said, oh, no, the music's in my head. I said,
• 51:36
  Speaker 22: the piano puts me off. They thought we got a
• 51:38
  Speaker 22: right one here, right? And then O'Brien said to me,
• 51:42
  Speaker 22: if I play this to you on the guitar, do
• 51:44
  Speaker 22: you think you could sing along?
• 51:45
  Speaker 14: I said, I don't know. And he went.
• 51:48
  Speaker 22: I thought, oh.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: I did.
• 51:56
  Speaker 22: And then he started to sing it. Michael Rennie was
• 52:01
  Speaker 22: ill the day... I went jumping down the King's Road,
• 52:07
  Speaker 22: and that was the only place to be in those 70s.
• 52:10
  Speaker 22: And I thought, that's fantastic. I'm doing this. And the
• 52:16
  Speaker 22: amazing thing was that my 1930s song was perfect for
• 52:21
  Speaker 22: the usherette to sing that song, you see.
• 52:24
  Speaker 14: So it worked.
• 52:26
  Speaker 22: So I went home half an hour later and said,
• 52:28
  Speaker 22: we want you to do it. My agent said, no, no, no,
• 52:31
  Speaker 22: you haven't read the script. It might only be four
• 52:34
  Speaker 22: lines or something. He said, don't care. Heard the song.
• 52:38
  Speaker 22: He said, get the script.
• 52:40
  Speaker 14: Go pick it up.
• 52:42
  Speaker 22: Four lines was in the script of someone called Magenta.
• 52:46
  Speaker 22: I had no interest in her at all because four lines,
• 52:49
  Speaker 22: she wasn't anything. But I wanted to sing that song.
• 52:55
  Speaker 22: So that's the only reason I did it. And then,
• 53:01
  Speaker 22: after three weeks, I'd had enough and I wanted to leave,
• 53:04
  Speaker 22: and they said Mick Jagger's queuing up the last night
• 53:07
  Speaker 22: with Bianca and Elliot Gould, we've.
• 53:10
  Speaker 14: Got David Bowie, we've got Princess.
• 53:11
  Speaker 22: Margaret, all word of mouth walking in.
• 53:16
  Speaker 14: Unbelievable.
• 53:18
  Speaker 22: Queuing in the street because there's a little theatre upstairs. Okay,
• 53:22
  Speaker 22: so we go. I said, I can't stay. It's 18
• 53:26
  Speaker 22: quid a week. I give that to my nanny. I
• 53:28
  Speaker 22: want out of here. And I got things to do,
• 53:30
  Speaker 22: like Lady Macbeth and stuff.
• 53:32
  Speaker 14: You know what I mean?
• 53:33
  Speaker 22: And so they said, please stay, please. Another two weeks, please.
• 53:38
  Speaker 22: And then they moved it. They kept moving it into cinemas.
• 53:41
  Speaker 22: We kept changing cinemas into theatres.
• 53:43
  Speaker 14: Most peculiar.
• 53:45
  Speaker 22: Down the King's Road. And then I was offered The
• 53:48
  Speaker 22: Suffragettes by the BBC, by Verity Lambert, who invented Doctor.
• 53:53
  Speaker 14: Who, actually. She was the producer of the first Doctor Who.
• 53:57
  Speaker 14: It was her show.
• 53:59
  Speaker 22: And she gave me Christabel Pankhurst, which is a massive
• 54:03
  Speaker 22: big series for television. I said, well, I'm doing Rocky
• 54:07
  Speaker 22: Horror on the King's Road at the moment.
• 54:08
  Speaker 14: She said, we'll.
• 54:09
  Speaker 22: Come and see you. So the suits from the BBC
• 54:13
  Speaker 22: come to Rocky Horror. And they suddenly said to me,
• 54:17
  Speaker 22: there's no dressing room, so they met me in the
• 54:19
  Speaker 22: foyer and they said, these are for you. And it
• 54:22
  Speaker 22: was the scripts for the eight episodes. And I said,
• 54:25
  Speaker 22: thank you. And I thought, I don't know if I
• 54:27
  Speaker 22: want to do that because I haven't read these. I
• 54:31
  Speaker 22: was a bit presumptuous of them.
• 54:33
  Speaker 14: Isn't that funny? I did it.
• 54:35
  Speaker 22: So I said to Michael, I have to go and
• 54:38
  Speaker 22: play Christopher Pankhurst, mate. He said, you can, but you
• 54:41
  Speaker 22: have to finish the last show on the Saturday night.
• 54:43
  Speaker 14: I thought, you git.
• 54:46
  Speaker 22: So Richard O'Brien wrote a song.
• 54:49
  Speaker 14: At the interval.
• 54:50
  Speaker 22: It's a wonderful song called The Day Magenta Went Away,
• 54:54
  Speaker 22: and he sang it. He won't give it to me.
• 54:56
  Speaker 22: Nobody's ever heard it. I know it a bit. I
• 55:00
  Speaker 22: thought I hardly knew her. I spoke so harshly to her.
• 55:06
  Speaker 22: The day magenta went away. It's a wonderful riff-raff song
• 55:11
  Speaker 22: to magenta, and he won't let anyone hear it. I said,
• 55:16
  Speaker 22: I feel so annoyed.
• 55:17
  Speaker 14: It was wonderful. So I got very emotional.
• 55:20
  Speaker 22: And I had to get the overnight train to Halifax
• 55:23
  Speaker 22: to begin standing on a box outside a mill making
• 55:28
  Speaker 22: speeches about my father's a socialist and my father. And
• 55:33
  Speaker 22: I'm there covered in glitter, which I couldn't get off
• 55:36
  Speaker 22: because we all wore glitter. And you couldn't get it
• 55:39
  Speaker 22: off because it was made of glass. And thank God
• 55:42
  Speaker 22: I was in Victorian blouses up to my chin so
• 55:47
  Speaker 22: you couldn't see it.
• 55:47
  Speaker 8: Well, that main song that brought you in, then as
• 55:51
  Speaker 8: we moved to the movie, we were just the girl
• 55:53
  Speaker 8: in line standing there. We were discussing how Richard stole
• 55:56
  Speaker 8: it from you. That was the thing that brought you
• 55:59
  Speaker 8: in the door. So, I mean, how upset were you
• 56:03
  Speaker 8: with that?
• 56:04
  Speaker 14: He didn't steal anything.
• 56:05
  Speaker 22: The point is, I say that as a joke, the
• 56:08
  Speaker 22: point is, they said, we're not, having gone to the film,
• 56:12
  Speaker 22: the premise with Usherette opening the film, won't work. A
• 56:16
  Speaker 22: girl with an ice cream tray walking down singing the song.
• 56:19
  Speaker 22: So I said, oh, yeah, of course, right. And I said,
• 56:23
  Speaker 22: you mean I'm not singing the song? This was a lunch.
• 56:26
  Speaker 14: About the film. And they said.
• 56:28
  Speaker 22: Well, no.
• 56:29
  Speaker 14: And I thought, oh.
• 56:31
  Speaker 22: I said, oh, sorry, then I'm not doing the film.
• 56:35
  Speaker 22: And they said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. They said, look,
• 56:40
  Speaker 22: come around the corner. They produced a John Coldstone's house
• 56:44
  Speaker 22: around the corner in Kensington. They said, come and see
• 56:49
  Speaker 22: what we've got. So they showed me the sets of
• 56:51
  Speaker 22: the laboratory. They showed me things called Transylvanians, which we
• 56:56
  Speaker 22: didn't have. They showed me the costumes. They showed me,
• 57:00
  Speaker 22: and I said, I'm doing this. Anyway, so I honestly
• 57:05
  Speaker 22: thought they were going to get Shirley Bassey or somebody
• 57:07
  Speaker 22: to sing the song. And then it turned out it
• 57:11
  Speaker 22: was Richard O'Brien, and I thought, you git.
• 57:15
  Speaker 8: And I'm one of the few people that I know
• 57:17
  Speaker 8: that spent way too much time watching Hawk the Slayer. Oh, no,
• 57:22
  Speaker 8: you didn't.
• 57:22
  Speaker 14: That film was bloody marvelous.
• 57:24
  Speaker 8: Jack Palance.
• 57:25
  Speaker 16: I love that movie.
• 57:27
  Speaker 11: Great.
• 57:28
  Speaker 22: We all did.
• 57:29
  Speaker 8: Thank you.
• 57:31
  Speaker 14: I love you.
• 57:34
  Speaker 8: Thank you, man.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: You didn't mention Shock Dreamer, did you?
• 57:39
  Speaker 8: No, I would have easily talked about Shock Dreamer. No,
• 57:43
  Speaker 8: I mentioned Hawk the Slayer. Which I, myself, as a youngster,
• 57:50
  Speaker 8: spent way too much time in front of cable television
• 57:54
  Speaker 8: and saw Hawk the Slayer.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: So many times.
• 57:57
  Speaker 8: And I thought it was awesome. I watch scenes of
• 58:00
  Speaker 8: it now and I'm like, I see the problems, sure.
• 58:03
  Speaker 8: But I'm like, it's still, at a time when a
• 58:05
  Speaker 8: kid growing up loving the Beastmaster, you know, I'm like,
• 58:09
  Speaker 8: this is right up my alley. So I'm like, especially
• 58:11
  Speaker 8: like Jack Palance is so amazing in that movie. So
• 58:15
  Speaker 8: like the fact that I'm like, oh yeah, she's like
• 58:17
  Speaker 8: the witch. She's the woman, I think is how she's
• 58:19
  Speaker 8: credited ever so lovingly.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just woman, woman.
• 58:23
  Speaker 8: But she's mostly, yeah, she's like the witch, the, you know,
• 58:26
  Speaker 8: the sorceress of this story. And, um, But yeah, you
• 58:31
  Speaker 8: heard her. She freaked out. Because I expected her to like, again,
• 58:35
  Speaker 8: sometimes people are not so proud of certain movies. So
• 58:37
  Speaker 8: I sometimes bring up stuff that they're like, oh God,
• 58:40
  Speaker 8: I don't want to talk about that one.
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: She loved it.
• 58:42
  Speaker 8: She was so excited. She told me she loved me
• 58:46
  Speaker 8: because I brought it up. That's awesome. If you listen
• 58:49
  Speaker 8: very closely here.
• 58:51
  Speaker 14: Oh, thank you.
• 58:52
  Speaker 8: It's good to meet you. Thank you. As I'm walking away.
• 58:58
  Speaker 8: She just is so overwhelmed by it. She's just like, shit.
• 59:01
  Speaker 8: I'm like, oh, I love you. You crazy woman, you.
• 59:07
  Speaker 8: oh patricia quinn what what a piece of work.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: See now we just need somebody here in louisville representing
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: like your warrior of the future or exactly let's just
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: bring it all in.
• 59:17
  Speaker 8: I we were kind of do we started off going
• 59:19
  Speaker 8: to do just a ton of those old 80s vhs
• 59:22
  Speaker 8: classic like cable three in the morning sword and sandal
• 59:26
  Speaker 8: kind of movies oh yeah We didn't get so far in.
• 59:28
  Speaker 8: We wanted to hit some ATORs, like all of those classic,
• 59:33
  Speaker 8: very special 80s films.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: Sword and the Sorcerer is very dear to my heart. Yeah, yeah.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: Featuring Richard Moll.
• 59:40
  Speaker 8: I think there was another, not the one I've already,
• 59:42
  Speaker 8: we have done a version of the 70s Sorcerers, but
• 59:44
  Speaker 8: I think there was an 80s, if I'm remembering right.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it sounds right.
• 59:49
  Speaker 8: There's a few of them that I start to blank
• 59:51
  Speaker 8: on which was which. Like, I saw so many at
• 59:54
  Speaker 8: that time that, yeah, I have to go back and went, wait,
• 59:56
  Speaker 8: which one did this happen? So, we need to watch
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 8: them all, obviously.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and of course, we can't forget Barbarians featuring, I
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: can't remember the name of the twins, but they were
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: two twins. Those creepy twins. They were bodybuilders.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 8: They're so weird.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: They were in many movies together, but that was the
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: only sword and sandal one they did there.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 8: Yeah, they were usually wearing business suits for some reason.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 8: There's a movie where they're like businessmen and then they
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 8: tear their sleeves off the suits because their arms are
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 8: busting out.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: Maybe it was like a mafia movie or something.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 8: I don't know. I just remember them in suits without
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 8: sleeves and it was Weird.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: They're weird. The Barbarians movies, they're barely dressed. Oh, yeah.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: Throughout the entire movie. I think their pecs are even undressed.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 8: What do you mean? And then, okay, so to round
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 8: it out, this was the one that, as I came
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 8: in today, I'd already seen your John Wesley Shipp interview.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 8: And I'm like, all right, he seems fun. He seems
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 8: like he's up for it. I've had, again, I'm always
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 8: known to bring visual props onto an audio show.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 8: It's a running theme throughout this decade of episodes. So
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 8: I found something again. When you're a semi hoarder, you
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 8: dig up some really old, weird stuff.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 10: Sure.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 8: I have tons of magazines for years and years and years.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 8: And in the middle of them, occasionally a catalog because kids,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 8: you'll be shocked. Back in the day, there was no internet.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 8: So when you got weird movie geek stuff and stuff
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 8: from weird genre TV, you mail ordered it.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 8: Oh yeah that's the only way you could find things
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 8: and you had to get like catalogs from other countries
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 8: half the time just to find this weird stuff but
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 8: one of the big ones that i actually did get
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 8: a lot of at the time and i'm gonna bust
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 8: it out for you so you can experience the wonder
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 8: that is the old school um warner brothers collection oh
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 8: now you'll notice the rover danger field on the cover
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 8: here rodney uh jim oh yeah rodney doing kids stuff
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 8: Didn't ever think I would see that happen, and yet
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 8: it did.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: It happened once.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 8: But what was fun about these catalogs is as you
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 8: get into them, the people that are your models for
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 8: all these products, this is Nancy Everhard. You get people
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 8: from the shows and movies that they had at the time.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 8: This is the dumb little girl from Growing Pains that
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 8: now is in the Marvel movies for some reason. I've
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 8: never figured out what's going on. She was the add-on kid.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, Ashley Johnson.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 6: Okay, yeah.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 8: She's the one that came in towards the end. But yeah,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 8: like half of these, like here's, again, the other girl
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 8: from Going Pains is like modeling our t-shirts and whatnot.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Strange.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 8: So you get to... Oh, Lord.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: There's a.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 8: Jonathan Winters. Jonathan Winters.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: Arguing with Bugs Bunny.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 8: There's Chuck Jones, Vanna White. See, these are very special
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 8: people that they get to be in their catalog. But
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 8: I remembered when I dug this up, I was like, wait,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 8: isn't John Wesley Shipp in his Flash days... The model
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 8: for the, he is in the Sears catalog, more or less.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: And there's Amanda Pays right there. And Amanda Pays.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 8: So this is them modeling the WB leather bomber jacket.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: You know what? They make it look good.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 8: Well, as he says, he's dreamily looking at her there.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 8: You know what?
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 10: Yeah, man.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: It pays a lovely lady.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 8: I ran across this. I was just like, all right,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 8: I don't know if he even remembers that he did this.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 8: I'm like, I wonder if he has a copy of this.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 8: I'm like, I'm going to drag it here. And as
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 8: I sit down, I, you know, if we, if we
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 8: get a chance to talk, I'm going to let him
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 8: take a look at this. So yeah, that's the plan
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 8: is I'm going to unleash this, uh, this ridiculous Warner
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 8: brothers catalog where he's one of the, the models for
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 8: their fancy Warner brothers.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 8: And we'll see how he responds. I specifically wanted to
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 8: do it this time because I found something. This is
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 8: when it's good to be a hoarder. I'm assuming you
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 8: remember these? Only because, uh.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 8: Look at that.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 9: Oh, yeah.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 16: We did a whole photo. Oh, I wish I had
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 16: a picture of that.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 8: The actual 8x10s of those. That's what you need.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 16: No, I didn't think she was a bit pretty.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 8: No, you're not dreamily looking at her there.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 16: I'm not looking at her dreamily.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 8: And then, look, there was another look at those shots.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 16: Yes, I remember that.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 8: So I ran across those lately.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 16: Who is that guy?
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: What happened to him?
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 8: I was wondering if you could tell me.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 16: 28 years ago.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 8: What's sad is, yeah, it strikes me now. I think
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 8: back and I'm like, I was just ordering stuff out
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 8: of this catalog. What happened? Where's the time gone?
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 16: Yeah, no, look at the little Mark Hamill. This is
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 16: my favorite. That's my favorite.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 8: So I didn't know if you still had any of these,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 8: but yeah, if you remember the The photo shoots and
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 8: all that that went along with it.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 16: Oh, I remember.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 8: Back when it was the WB World.
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  Speaker 16: The catalog, yeah.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 8: Before CW came along.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 16: Yeah, we were CBS. Warner Brothers for CBS.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 8: Yeah, which is weird. It's all changed hands now, like
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 8: ABC and Disney. They've all changed hands so many times now.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 8: It's crazy. I know you're known for so much TV work,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 8: but you've been in a lot of stuff over the years.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 8: We focus more on movies. Are there any movies you've
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 8: been in that you think are underrated that not enough
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 8: people have seen?
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 17: Well, someone just came to me and mentioned an independent
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 17: film I did a couple years ago about the life
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 17: of Edward Fudge. He wrote the book The Fire That Consumes.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 8: Nice.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 17: And we did his life story. Mackenzie Astin played Edward.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 17: I played his father.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 10: Hmm.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 17: And that was a very moving picture. Of course, from
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 17: back in the day, there's Never Ending Story 2.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 17: And then I've done independent films, Separation Anxiety, Golden Shoes,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 17: where I played the president. You know, a couple of
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 17: different things.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 8: Playing president, are you heading that way? It's not too
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 8: hard to make that jump from actor to president.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: No, no.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 16: That is a job I would not want.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: Nobody wants.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 16: We should have somebody very experienced in that job.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 8: Yes, we should. Thank you. Yes, we should.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 16: If you know what I mean, and I think you do.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 8: I think so. But yeah, and I love The Flash,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 8: so I guess you guys have a lot of crazy
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 8: stuff coming up and impressive crossover events. We do.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 17: Tuesday night is the 100th episode, which Tom Cavanaugh directed.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 16: Bob Catalana is my Appearance manager.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 16: So sometimes that's all I can think of.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 17: But Tom Cavanaugh directed it and it sets up the crossover,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 17: the Flash Arrow Supergirl crossover, which happens the following weekend
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 17: on December 9th, 10th and 11th.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 16: And I'll be in one of the crossovers and I'll.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 17: Be in or maybe two because I just spoke to
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 17: Greg Berlanti and I'll be in the 100th.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 14: All right.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 8: Well, thank you for talking with me, man. Thank you.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 14: Thank you.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 8: Very cool. I just thought that was fun. I wanted
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 8: to drag that out.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 14: No, I love it.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 8: Thank you, man. We said at the time, we're cataloging.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 10: There's another one here. Oh, whoa, whoa.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: Here it is.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 8: The Olsens. I mean.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, there we go.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 8: The highest paid children in the world.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: And Urkel.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 8: See, he shares a catalog with Urkel. Like, that's big time, man.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 8: Bob Kane, Hawk and Batman. Oh, there we go. Exactly.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 8: Still around the cycle. bronson pin show who let him
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 8: in this catalog there we go there he is modeling
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 8: the flash t look at that you want to order
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 8: that right now don't you oh yeah i'll take the
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 8: one in black shirt so there you go see i
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 8: was like for old school fans there's mark there's mark
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 8: hamill with the with the hair like he's he's coming
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 8: straight out of the show to come do these these
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 8: these promo shots for the flash t-shirts And I was like, this.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: Is just funny. Were they paid any extra for this?
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 8: I wonder, you know, it's like, I think it's kind
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 8: of funny that, you know, you don't see this kind
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 8: of stuff now. Like nobody's this, this is kind of
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 8: the tail end of like being knee deep in like
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 8: a studio, you know, it's like now everybody just does
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 8: a one-off movie. You sign one deal and you're out.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 8: And like, so the fact that they were this ingrained
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 8: in the Warner Brothers, uh, to do their modeling shots
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 8: for the catalog. I just thought that was so much fun.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: That's fantastic.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 8: All right, John, let's take a look at this thing.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 8: He was a good sport, and you heard him. You
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 8: got to come join in on the new, used to
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 8: be on the old WB, but now it's CW.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 8: He's got all kinds of cool stuff coming up on
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 8: the CW. I'm sure you can tell them about that.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: Well, of course, this week is the 100th episode of
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: The Flash coming up on Tuesday, December 4th. I've got
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: it on very good authority from Jordan. Wesley Shipp himself.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: That episode is not to be missed because Elseworlds, the
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: big crossover, always happens annually here. It's coming up next
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: week on December 9th, 10th, and 11th. That's a Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. Basically,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: the December 4th episode of The Flash leads right into
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: the crossover.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 17: Yeah.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: And then basically Supergirl and Flash do a little bit
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: of switcheroo this year for the crossover. So basically Flash
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: is first on December 9th, then Arrow, then Supergirl. So
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: it's going to be awesome. I mean, we're dealing with,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: we're introducing Batwoman. We're introducing Lois Lane finally. Superman will
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: be involved in all three episodes. For comics fans, one
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: thing that really strikes a very deep chord with me,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: they're introducing the Monitor series. Into the Arrowverse, which can
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: only mean one thing. We are leading towards Crisis on
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: Infinite Earths.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 8: I saw the Superman in the new... Alternate suit on
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 8: the little promo on there.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the black and silver.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 8: That's going to be different. We're definitely heading down a
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 8: different territory here.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: But the most important thing we're kind of glossing over
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: here is that there's a big lineup part. Of course,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: the main plot of Elseworlds is that Barry Allen is
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: the Green Arrow, Oliver Queen is the Flash, and no
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: one knows but them. Everybody else thinks it's normal. They
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: are the two that know it's not. But there's a
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: lineup shot towards the promo there, towards the end of it.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: You see, you know, Oliver dresses the Flash. Barry's dressed
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: the Green Arrow. Kara's there in all Supergirl regalia. But
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: there's a fourth person in that lineup. That would be
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: John Wesley Shipp in the 90s Flash suits.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 8: In the classic era. Not the cool t-shirt he was
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 8: just wearing. But that same era that came out of
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 8: this catalog is his old school outfit. So yeah, I've
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 8: heard him. Heard him go on about that, I think,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 8: in your interview. Yes, he did. And it was, yeah,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 8: it was kind of cool that they're definitely... I mean,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 8: to me, it was really interesting when they brought him
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 8: in as sort of an unofficial. Like, okay, we're not
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 8: exactly acknowledging this is the same universe because he wasn't Flash.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 8: He was instead Barry's dad. But at the same time,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 8: the fact that they then... work in Mark Hamill's character.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 8: They work in all like, they've got all these ties
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 8: to it.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: Like Amanda pays in the first season. It's yeah.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 8: It's like a nod to the old. It's like, it's
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 8: not like, Oh, we're just going to like throw out
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 8: this old, you know, series that people loved. It's like,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 8: we're going to pay tribute to it in a weird way. And,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 8: kind of morph it into this new different thing. I
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 8: thought that was amazing that they brought him on board.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 8: And now that they keep finding new and interesting ways
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 8: to work him back in every season, it's pretty awesome.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, when normally he plays Jay Garrick on the show,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: which basically at this point is the flash from earth tube.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: Of course we know it was like the classic silver
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: age flash or golden age flash.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 6: Sorry.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 8: Don't upset Comic Eats.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I should know better. But yeah, so that
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: was really cool having him. Of course, that was a
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: big thrill for me when they revealed the man in
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: the Iron Mask and it was the real Jay Garrick.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: He was him. Yes, because Flash fans have been wanting
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: him as Jay Garrick since day one.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 8: It's, yeah, the fake out that they did of like, no,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 8: he's going to be the dad. That's what you thought.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: Exactly. But then, of course, the question that he amusingly
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: narrowly avoided was my theory that he's not exactly the
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: Barry Allen from his show, that he's our Barry Allen
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: from the future. Could he comment? And he avoided the question.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 8: Are you trying to ruin their show?
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to ruin anything. Don't spoil it for anyone.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: I have theories.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 8: Fan theories is a thing.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: Your fanatic is no different.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 8: We'll have to introduce you to the internet. That's where
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 8: they live and breed.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: I kind of help some of that a little bit too.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 8: I'm sure. I'm trying to think. There's been... So many
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 8: things going on this weekend. Are there any other high
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 8: points that we haven't already covered for you?
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: Well, I did get to speak to Charles Martinier, the
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: voice of Mario. That was really cool. Nice, nice. Of course,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: it was very cool for my 11-year-old nephew as well,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: who is currently obsessed with all things Mario.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 8: It's weird how that hangs on. You'd think as many
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 8: years ago as it started... And as many times as
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 8: it's kind of gone up and down, like the popularity,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 8: depending on what system comes out, you know, it's like
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 8: sort of big again. And then it'll disappear and you'll
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 8: think maybe it'll be gone for good this time. And
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 8: it's back every time.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 15: It really is.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 8: It comes back with a vengeance.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 6: Mario.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 8: Again, I saw a lot of people dressed as Mario.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 8: There was one last night as I was leaving that
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 8: was dressed in a red business suit, but with the
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 8: Mario mustache and a red Mario cap.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 10: Oh, wow.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 8: But otherwise was in a full like suit and tie
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 8: that was also the same shade of red as his hat,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 8: is businessman Mario. Nobody makes more money than Mario, so
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 8: I guess that's accurate.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: He's been doing the role for 28 years.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 14: That's crazy.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: Talk about gainful employment. God bless him.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 8: It has been a pretty amazing convention. I'm glad to
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 8: have them. As I said, this is their first year here,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 8: but they've been doing it for many years. I briefly,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 8: a while ago, talked to one of the co-runners And then, again,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 8: talking to Sammy earlier this weekend, yeah, kind of getting
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 8: the overview of how they've been running this show. And
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 8: it's really well put together.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: It really is.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 8: Professionally run. And having been to as many as I have,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 8: I've seen some that don't quite do things right over
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 8: the years. So, yeah, it's really promising to see them
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 8: come in this first year and already have things running
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 8: as smoothly as they did. So, this is impressive. Yeah.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 8: Points to them.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Oh, and one other thing I almost forgot to
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: leave out. I didn't get to interview him, but I
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: did get to hang out a little bit with Lloyd
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: Kaufman of Troma Films. Another person I was really looking
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: forward to meeting. He was awesome.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 8: I don't know what to do with Lloyd.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: Look, I have a standing invitation to come to New
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: York and hang out at Troma Films anytime I want.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: Get a tour. I have to be put to work. Uh, yeah.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if I'm going to hang out
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: with Lloyd Kaufman, I want to be either in a
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: movie or help him make one.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 8: I did discuss last year this, I mean, I am
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 8: always amazed with the business end of what he's done
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 8: and building this weird little studio on his back the
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 8: way he did. But yeah, I do remember, um, last
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 8: year when I talked to Sean Gunn, who was also
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 8: here this weekend, but like last year I sat down
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 8: with him and, that's kind of what I focused. Like he's,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 8: I guess at this point, so used to just having
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 8: guardians of the galaxy thrown at him. But like the
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 8: fact that I was talking about Tromeo and Juliet and
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 8: he was just like, Whoa, okay. Uh, let's, let's go
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 8: back to that. So like he, again, it's interesting where
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 8: they came from and how much work was put into
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 8: that original little first run of movies. And he's turned
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 8: it into its, its own weird little empire. So more,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 8: more power to you, Lloyd.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 11: I know.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: And the thing I love too, of course there's, A
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: lot of celebrities out here, they're charging for autographs. They're
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: charging for pictures, which a lot of people, this is
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: the way they're making money nowadays.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: It's fine.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 8: It's a career at this point.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: Totally acceptable now. For folks who balk at those prices, like, well,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: you probably haven't been to a convention before.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's the way the world works now.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: So what's wonderful is to get the rarities of a
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: big star or somebody that's an iconic statue like Lloyd Kaufman,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: and he doesn't charge for autographs and pictures.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 8: Yeah, he just likes coming out and hanging out and
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 8: talking with people.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: He has a table full of merch on the other end.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 8: Don't worry. He'll sell you merchandise.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: He will make some money. He's not going to go
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: home poor today. He's always been a businessman. Yes, but no.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: It was a great thrill getting to meet him, too.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: Louisville Supercon has just been absolutely amazing.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 8: Definitely impressive. So, yeah, just shout out to them. This
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 8: one is louisvillesupercon.com. Go there and figure out what's going
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 8: on for this version. But they've got, I think, four
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 8: or five other ones that they do throughout the year.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 8: I know they started in Florida, and they've kind of
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 8: branched up. From there. So, like, go Google them. You know,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 8: find the main site and find them closer to you
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 8: if you're not near Louisville because they're putting together a
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 8: good show.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's a fantastic show.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 8: I'm definitely looking forward to seeing what they put together
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 8: next year for Louisville Supercon.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: Most definitely.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 8: All right. I think we've rounded it out.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: I think so, too.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: We've said all we can really say about Louisville Supercon,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: I believe.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 8: Until next week.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 8: I have a very special... extra episode that spawned from
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 8: this weekend.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 6: Oh, fantastic.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 8: And I'm going to tease it right now. So you
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 8: come back next week because it's up there. It's one
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 8: of my favorite discussions. So be back next week. Fantastic. Otherwise,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 8: that about does it. We will return next time. Same
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 8: geek feed. Thanks for listening.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: Take care, guys.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 5: Michael Rennie was ill the day the earth stood still.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 14: But he told us where.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 5: We stand And Flash Gordon was there in silver underwear
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 5: Cloud of Rains was the invisible man. Then something went
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 5: wrong for Faray and Crickon.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 8: They got caught.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 9: In a sailor jam. Then at a deadly pace, it
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 9: came from outer space.
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  Speaker 5: And this is how the message read.
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  Speaker 19: Fiction.
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  Speaker 9: Devil feature.
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  Speaker 7: Dr.
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  Speaker 20: X will build a creature.
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  Speaker 11: Sea and droids fighting.
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  Speaker 9: Bright and jealous.
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  Speaker 11: And Francis does it Forbidden planet Oh, oh, oh, oh.
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  Speaker 20: At the late night, double feature picture show.
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  Speaker 23: I knew Leo G. Carroll was over.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 5: A barrel when Tarantula took to the hills.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 14: And I really got.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 5: High when I saw Johnny Scott fight a triffid that
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 5: spits poison and kills.
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  Speaker 23: Dan Andrews said prunes.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 20: Gave him the runes, and passing them used lots.
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  Speaker 21: Of skill But when worlds collide, said George Pell to
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  Speaker 21: his bride I'm gonna give you some terrible thrills Like
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  Speaker 21: your science fiction.
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  Speaker 9: We'll build a creature Sea androids fighting Bright and jaded.
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  Speaker 11: And Francis stars.
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  Speaker 9: In Forbidden Planet.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, oh, oh, oh.
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  Speaker 14: Half a late night, double.
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  Speaker 11: Feature, picture show.
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  Speaker 8: I want to go. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
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  Speaker 20: To the late night, double feature picture show By RKO
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  Speaker 20: To the late night, double feature picture show In the
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  Speaker 20: back row.
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  Speaker 19: Oh, oh, oh To the late night Double-featured picture show Oh, oh,
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  Speaker 19: oh Ryan with an I.
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  Speaker 3: With a Y.
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  Speaker 14: With a Y, alright. Ryan with a Y.
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  Speaker 8: Otherwise, if you were ready.
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  Speaker 16: Yes, Brian, with a Y.
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  Speaker 6: All right.
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  Speaker 15: Thank you.
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  Speaker 6: This episode is a production of Movie Meltdown, produced and
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  Speaker 2: Talk hard!
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