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ITB: Eagles Schedule Analysis, Part I: Revenge Games Highlight First Four Weeks · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Inside the Birds is back. What's going on, everybody? It's
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Mosher and Adam Kaplan And guess what. We just
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  Speaker 1: finished a podcast series going through every single positional position
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: on the Eagles and the depth chart and giving intel
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: on that. We're about to start a new series and
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  Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to this one. It'll be a
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  Speaker 1: little bit shorter. What we're gonna do is go through
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles schedule, and what we've done is break it
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  Speaker 1: up into four parts. All right, We're gonna start off
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  Speaker 1: with the early part as the schedule goes on, and
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  Speaker 1: then for the next three podcasts gets to the end.
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  Speaker 1: But we're gonna go through the matchups of who they
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  Speaker 1: play and really get into, Adam right, the nitty gritty
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  Speaker 1: of the matchups, the strategies of all the new coaches,
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  Speaker 1: the new schemes of philosophies the Eagles.
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  Speaker 2: Are going to be seeing week to week basis.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what I really love about it at this
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  Speaker 1: time of the year in May, to be able to
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  Speaker 1: really get like football junkie talk and really good intel.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of that comes. We talked to so many
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  Speaker 2: people for the pre.
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  Speaker 1: Draft process from other teams, and we kind of know
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  Speaker 1: what they're thinking, what they're doing, and it's good intel
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  Speaker 1: to use in these situations because then the egos wind
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  Speaker 1: up playing them this season. So I really looking forward
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  Speaker 1: to this podcast series.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, looking forward to it. It's it's gonna be interesting
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  Speaker 3: to see what happens. It really is because nothing stays
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  Speaker 3: the same with the National Football And that's why I
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  Speaker 3: kind of laugh at strength of schedule. No NFL team
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  Speaker 3: stays exactly the same, Like literally, no team does like
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  Speaker 3: that in a Dallas though Dallas will get into them later.
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  Speaker 3: No show they're running back their entire offense. That like
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  Speaker 3: doesn't happen starting eleven. It's it's extremely rare, but hey,
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  Speaker 3: they're doing it. I mean usually have one change, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: staffs change, personnel, staff change. And by the way, when
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  Speaker 3: I do my own strength of schedule, I add that
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  Speaker 3: in there because if a team has an injury, how
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  Speaker 3: thoughtful are they? Are? They smart enough for they aggressively?
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  Speaker 3: Howie that matters to me when you look at strength
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  Speaker 3: to schedule.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure for sure.
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  Speaker 1: So in this podcast, we're gonna do weeks one through four,
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  Speaker 1: So it starts off week one Verse Commanders Week two
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  Speaker 1: at Titans Week three at Bears, Week four verse Rams.
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  Speaker 1: And the interesting thing, to your point, Adam, is not
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  Speaker 1: just that three of those four teams Eagles played last year,
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  Speaker 1: but there's a lot of differences with them, and it
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  Speaker 1: really starts in Week one against the Commanders, because to
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  Speaker 1: your point, there is a lot that is different with
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  Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders, including a new offensive coordinator and a
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  Speaker 1: new defensive coordinator. And what I really think is cool
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  Speaker 1: about this being a week one matchup, besides the fact
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  Speaker 1: that last year you had to wait till Week sixteen
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  Speaker 1: for the first of the matchup.
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  Speaker 2: By the time you got it, and it was ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: My time you got the Commanders.
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  Speaker 1: Were out ye. So yeah, what I like about this
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  Speaker 1: is that the Eagles and Commanders offensively are trying to
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  Speaker 1: get to the same point with similar schemes and styles,
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  Speaker 1: different people but and different personnel, but with similar scheme philosophy.
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  Speaker 2: So what I mean is you obviously the Eagles are
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  Speaker 2: Sean Mannion. They bring him in.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about the the McVeigh and Lafleur influences of
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  Speaker 1: that kind of an offense. And David Blow is that
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  Speaker 1: that pronounce yeah yeah, yeah, and knew who is I'll
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  Speaker 1: let you talk about this, but he's sort of like
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  Speaker 1: a Manion story and like he's very inexperienced too and
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  Speaker 1: trying to do offensively the same things.
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  Speaker 3: He's another guy. This I believe will be his third
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  Speaker 3: year coaching. Right, I'll double check it's either I think
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  Speaker 3: it's his third year. It's either second or third year,
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  Speaker 3: but I believe it's his third. Nevertheless, like this is
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  Speaker 3: a huge jump for this guy. Now Here's what I
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  Speaker 3: was told. They were so con First of all, Cliff
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  Speaker 3: Kingsbury and Dan Quinn had they just they didn't see
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  Speaker 3: how to eye on the structure of the offense in
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  Speaker 3: terms of when to run what kind of the outlook
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  Speaker 3: of the scheme. Right, Cliff Kingsbury runs his scheme, he
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  Speaker 3: was great in year one. Nobody had a problem with him.
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  Speaker 3: You're two, Quinn and I was told that they just
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  Speaker 3: didn't see eye to eye. And they were also concerned
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  Speaker 3: with David blow Leaving being hired potentially by the guy
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  Speaker 3: who got tutored by him or the guy who tutor
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  Speaker 3: blocs use me, Ben Johnson the source. One person told
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  Speaker 3: me that Ben Johnson might have hired him to maybe
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  Speaker 3: he'd be the non play calling OC obviously, but with Washington,
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  Speaker 3: he's going to call the plays like this is a
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  Speaker 3: big jump man. He just retired a couple years ago.
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  Speaker 3: He was a He was a undrafted journeyman type, you know,
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  Speaker 3: very smart. Uh, got brought up in the West Coast scheme,
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  Speaker 3: Ben Johnson's version of it. Johnson is a West Coast guy,
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  Speaker 3: but he's got his own version of it. Yep, and uh,
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  Speaker 3: it's it's fascinating. So their offensive line schemes changed, I'm
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  Speaker 3: told has changed completely. It's it's zone. Its zone. They
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  Speaker 3: were a combination of gap and zone. That's changing. So
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  Speaker 3: and then defensively, Darante Jones comes in and he's gonna
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  Speaker 3: run a thirty four now like you could say he's
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  Speaker 3: he's certainly in a way a disciple of Flores, but
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  Speaker 3: nobody sees it like Brian Flores man. He's just like
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  Speaker 3: so an orthodox. Right. Remember the game back and was
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  Speaker 3: it twenty thirteen or twenty twenty two, I don't remember.
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  Speaker 3: They played the Eagles on a Monday night. They decided
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  Speaker 3: they're gonna drop like nine and rush eight.
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  Speaker 1: Ye I mean rushed two.
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  Speaker 3: And he was running hell out of it with Jeandre
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  Speaker 3: Swift I think.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and not only that, they were putting like off
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  Speaker 1: ball linebackers on the line of scrimmage like this instead
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  Speaker 1: of down linemen. Yeah, I was like, why is Jordan
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  Speaker 1: Hicks playing a three technique or something like that?
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  Speaker 3: It was It was was wild. But Brian Flores is
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  Speaker 3: brilliant and Danty Jones is seen as very very sharp.
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  Speaker 3: And we'll see now the big problem for Washington and
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  Speaker 3: they know it. It was a mistake. I know why
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  Speaker 3: they did it. They went fort last year. They brought
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  Speaker 3: in a bunch of older players. You know, this is
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  Speaker 3: what happens the front offices, particularly gentleman. They come out
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  Speaker 3: of the blue. You know, they were a special team
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  Speaker 3: in year one. They have a special quarterback in Jade Daniels.
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  Speaker 3: He was elite as a rookie and they were great.
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  Speaker 3: They got boat raced by the Eagles in the championship game,
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  Speaker 3: but you know that that happens. But they were really hurt.
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  Speaker 3: They were really old last year. And Adam Peters, a
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  Speaker 3: GM admitted on the record he talked about with them media.
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  Speaker 3: They don't want to be like that, and they've got younger.
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  Speaker 3: They still have some older players who are locked into contract. Wise,
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  Speaker 3: but they've got much younger and offensively folks. It's I
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  Speaker 3: would think. I know they're very high on an TONI.
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  Speaker 3: Williams was a guy that we were very high on
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  Speaker 3: the pre pre draft process out of Clemson. The coaches
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  Speaker 3: we talked to like him should be their slot receiver.
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  Speaker 3: But Jammy Brown's back after his one year, ten million
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  Speaker 3: dollars deal which didn't work out with Jacksonville. He was
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  Speaker 3: hurt a lot. He's back. He can run Clorin Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: Burks did Treylon Burks before he heard his finger played well.
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  Speaker 3: But Deebo Samuel their fascination. By the way, with Brandon Ayuk,
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  Speaker 3: I get it. Peters was there with Brandon Ayuk. Ayuk
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  Speaker 3: has had an ac entry. Uh, he was sort of
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  Speaker 3: disconnected from the club. It's a very odd situation, not
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  Speaker 3: a secret. Washington wants them. San Francisco's not take is
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  Speaker 3: going to take their time. Whenever you feel like they're
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  Speaker 3: going to release them, they'll release him. But I don't
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  Speaker 3: know why Peters is so hell bent on getting a
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  Speaker 3: guy that, like, all of a sudden, he's going to
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  Speaker 3: know more than everybody else does, Like he canting handled
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  Speaker 3: this guy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I guess the idea is this, right A.
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  Speaker 1: If there's one area where the commanders are really falling
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  Speaker 1: short as they try to get back to being a contender,
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  Speaker 1: is that for all the improves they mint they made
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  Speaker 1: on the offensive line, they just have not surrounded Jane
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  Speaker 1: Daniels with a whole lot of young, explosive talent. Now,
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  Speaker 1: it's nice to have to your point, like Terry McLaurin,
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  Speaker 1: And yes, they drafted Antonio Williams, and we saw a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of a renaissance last year from Treylon Brooks,
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  Speaker 1: but you know you're running back to their Bill Jacclowski
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  Speaker 1: marriage Rushad. Why we'll see if Kate Roan Allen can
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  Speaker 1: make a difference. And honestly, McLaurin was hurt a lot
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  Speaker 1: last year and he's he's a good receiver. He's a
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  Speaker 1: very consistent thousand yard receiver. I took nothing away, but
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  Speaker 1: when he was at his best, Brandon Ayuk was an
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  Speaker 1: absolute out. You up and just make break your ankles guy.
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  Speaker 1: And if and if you give up nothing to just
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  Speaker 1: sign that guy and he can get his head straight
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  Speaker 1: and he's recovered from the industry from the injury. You
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  Speaker 1: get it yourself a major steal there.
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  Speaker 3: So three or four years ago, I was at Niners
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  Speaker 3: camp and I just remember talking to one of the
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  Speaker 3: coaches and I just abused the defense. He was just unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: Like you've been a hundred two hundred practice PARBTM in
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  Speaker 3: your life, maybe more. You probably could remember some of
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  Speaker 3: the great elite practice from probably Eagles practices and sometimes
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  Speaker 3: Joined practice, who knows. Yeah, but it was kind of embarrassing,
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  Speaker 3: like they could not defend this guy and he's he's
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  Speaker 3: unbelievably talented. And Kyle Shanahan got in his sleep. This
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  Speaker 3: is when hands Shanahan, we're having issues. Ayuk was a
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  Speaker 3: sort of to himself guy and uh I might have
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  Speaker 3: been during a bye week Shathan they met and he
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  Speaker 3: he let him know on their notes on certain terms
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  Speaker 3: like this, I expect to be way better. Your purchase
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  Speaker 3: gotta be better. And anyway mm hm, uh I got
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  Speaker 3: the got with the program. He was elite and then unfortunately,
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  Speaker 3: you know, he tours a c L. He was almost
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  Speaker 3: he was very closely traded to Pittsburgh and then he
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  Speaker 3: you know again he turns a cl and then here
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  Speaker 3: you are and they want him so to move this along.
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  Speaker 3: Here a lot of these, A lot of the injury
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  Speaker 3: guys are back. They're feeling better about their offensive like
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  Speaker 3: a Conco will be their move tight end. John bateses
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  Speaker 3: with the why Ben sin It has not worked out
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  Speaker 3: in the first years? Was the second round pick they
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  Speaker 3: overdrafted him. You mentioned the running game cross Key America
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  Speaker 3: is not in every down back. They don't see him
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  Speaker 3: that way. He's not powerful enough mm hm for for
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  Speaker 3: people in Fantasy Dynasty League, Kethron Allen, get him Rashad
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  Speaker 3: Waite in a one year deal. Hell, he'll see Tom
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  Speaker 3: on third down, Alan could and Jerome Ford. I forgot
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  Speaker 3: he's on there. Count handle the third down a little bit.
• 10:02
  Speaker 3: K Tron Allen, the Dynasty has a chance down the road.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think so.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, Blao has only been a coach for
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  Speaker 1: two years, so just like man he was the assistant
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  Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach for the Commanders.
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  Speaker 3: So hang on, is this his second year?
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  Speaker 2: No, this will be his third year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be thirty right. Yeah, that's scary that
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  Speaker 3: that is.
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  Speaker 1: It's that's what we've been saying about Manion. It's the
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  Speaker 1: same thing. Never run a room. Only been a coach
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  Speaker 1: for two years.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I never really had this kind of pilit
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  Speaker 3: you know, but you just I remember our friend John g.
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  Speaker 3: Filippa when he was for first time playing GOLL with Cleveland.
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  Speaker 3: So like John said, you gotta do it someday. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and John did so well. I got interviewed at forty
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  Speaker 3: nine ers next year for the be of their head coach.
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  Speaker 3: That went to Chip Kelly, right.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it was Kellen Moore who had the very
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  Speaker 1: similar background and then had a number One offense in
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  Speaker 1: his first So it can it can be done.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, it could be done.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 3: So that offensively, Daniels's back his health, He's got to
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: build his body up. Cosmey's back. Connelly was terrific at
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  Speaker 3: right tackle as a rookie. Tunsall was great at left tackle.
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  Speaker 3: There's still a little questionable at center and left guard.
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  Speaker 3: Chris Paul's a good run blocker. They believe he might
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  Speaker 3: be Stralla's offensive lineman.
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  Speaker 2: You've been talking about him for two years.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked about He didn't get that. You know
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  Speaker 3: what the problem is. I guess no one else saw
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  Speaker 3: it what we had heard. He didn't get the good
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  Speaker 3: free agent deal. But he's back. They liked him obviously
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  Speaker 3: they went in him back. Now defensively their past rush.
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  Speaker 3: We were joking, how much like the kid Martin, the
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  Speaker 3: pass rusher from Jacob Martin, the pass rusher from Temple.
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  Speaker 3: I would choke him as a thing. Nine years ago they
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  Speaker 3: brought him in. He was their fifth pas rusher. They
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  Speaker 3: became their number one because everybody got hurt. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 3: they're running. They're moved to a thirty four. A. Daffielway
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  Speaker 3: had sort of a breakout season after the trade with
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  Speaker 3: coming over from Baltimore to the Chargers. Chasing talked about
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  Speaker 3: he wanted to get paid. He got paid one. I
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  Speaker 3: believe it's a one year deal with good money. Right,
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  Speaker 3: Leo movable chest piece, Sunny Styles could wind up being
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  Speaker 3: the best player out of this draft to three years.
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  Speaker 3: Like now, I know it's a it's a big jump.
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  Speaker 3: He's been playing linebacker very long. But the talent that
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  Speaker 3: he's freakish.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and and to put him in a Dernte Jones
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  Speaker 1: slash Brian Flores type system where you're probably gonna move
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  Speaker 1: him around and on third down you're gonna blitz him
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  Speaker 1: from all angles and he's gonna come at you. With
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  Speaker 1: all that thought, I mean, it's it's gonna work. It's
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  Speaker 1: hard not to see. It's hard to see it not working.
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  Speaker 1: But honestly, Adam that I think the trickle down effect
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  Speaker 1: of signing leoshanal good run stopping one backer right, adding
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  Speaker 1: Sunny Styles allows them to use Frankie Luvu more situationally.
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  Speaker 2: He to me, he is a better pass rusher.
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  Speaker 1: Than he is a downhill linebacker or a coverage he
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  Speaker 1: gets exposed. You know, last year they would just splash. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: last year they just wound up putting him on the edge,
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  Speaker 1: as you were saying, only Jacob Martin. They didn't have
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: too much edge rushers. But now with more edge depth
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  Speaker 1: with Calevon Chason and of course in Oway, they can
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  Speaker 1: be a little bit more judicious and how and when
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  Speaker 1: they want to use Luvu and not expose him into
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  Speaker 1: positions where he gets vulnerable. So I think this defensive
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  Speaker 1: front is deeper, stronger, more athletic for sure by adding
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  Speaker 1: Styles and Chason and odoll o'dapia ohay. And I think
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  Speaker 1: if Jerson Newton gives him a good he needs to
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  Speaker 1: give him more as the second round pick and your
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  Speaker 1: debt for that fore man, for that interior.
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  Speaker 2: Rusher but that's a good start. It's pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: They've done a nice job of adding getting younger and
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  Speaker 1: getting more athletic.
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  Speaker 3: They got They added so many players. Him settles back, Uh,
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  Speaker 3: he was with them years ago. DJJ DJ Davidson comes
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  Speaker 3: over from the Johnts. You mentioned Johnny Newton. They decided
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  Speaker 3: to keep Deron Paynt and not cut him. Shy Tuttle
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  Speaker 3: who's a been around a long time, Charles and Metta,
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  Speaker 3: who's long you could play and Nickel if you go
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  Speaker 3: four down, you can play them inside if you want.
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  Speaker 2: Why right, don't forget about why is Tetrick Wise is?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Trick Wise is back from his injury. He had
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  Speaker 3: a major knee injury. Armstrong's back from his injury. This
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  Speaker 3: is where they're they're at. They had like they need
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  Speaker 3: thirteen players over thirty over thirty less season. That's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gonna have some interesting cutdown decisions on some
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  Speaker 1: of these veterans because, like I said, they've done a
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  Speaker 1: good job of adding bodies for depth, guys who can
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  Speaker 1: play in this league. The don't have to be stars.
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  Speaker 1: I kill a Weatherspoon back, just like kind of the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles getting Jones is an extra corner. Right, They've got bodies,
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  Speaker 1: so they've got good competition. I think Week one is
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  Speaker 1: going to be a really interesting matchup. It's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a showcase of these two new offensive philosophies, but it's
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  Speaker 1: also gonna be a showcase of just how much the
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  Speaker 1: Commanders defensively are going to either storm onto the scene
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  Speaker 1: with new athleticism and pass rush or just not really
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  Speaker 1: be there yet.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna know.
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  Speaker 3: One issue that I do us. We like Nick Cross
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  Speaker 3: comes over from Indy. Yeah, they've got Will Howris comes
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  Speaker 3: over from the Saints. Kwan Martin could play nickel or safety,
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  Speaker 3: so they're gonna be fine at safety. But my problem
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  Speaker 3: is at corner. I know that there tree Amos Apparently
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  Speaker 3: he grated out very well before he got hurt. They
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  Speaker 3: felt he played really well. We'll be starting he unfortunately
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  Speaker 3: got hurt, but he played well. Who was the second
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  Speaker 3: rounder last year? But Sanders still dropped off a little bit?
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  Speaker 3: Is he a nickel? See this is Mick Robertson. Mick
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  Speaker 3: Robertson was drafted by the Raiders to play nickel. He
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  Speaker 3: did well Detroit ran out of corners. He had a
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  Speaker 3: play corner he moved from nickel to corner. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 3: he did, and he got a nice deal with with
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  Speaker 3: with the Commando. So I struggle with their outside corner
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  Speaker 3: group other than tree Amos. So if you're the Eagles,
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  Speaker 3: if you could protect, I'm going after the corners, Like
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  Speaker 3: you know. Part of this is while we're doing this
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  Speaker 3: is how can the Eagles win?
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  Speaker 1: Sure?
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  Speaker 3: How could they beat them? Throw against their corners? Like,
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: if you could protect, you can do that. I liked it. Boy,
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: they've that. It's I mean, it's remarkable how much money
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: they spent.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well they have.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: They spent a lot. Yeah, they exactly correctly, right, Yeah,
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: they did.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: Other than you get a player second contract, sorry, second
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: contract players, players more athleticism, players with experience. Look, I
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: mean if the Eagles, if the Eagles are not right
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: offensive line, like with their health, you'll know early. Because
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: this Washington defensive front now has got some juice to it,
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: and it's got some big bodies between in the middle.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: We will know right off the start. And I love
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: your point. You're the Eagles. You got a new offense,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: your new wide receivers one's Davanta. You got a slot
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: receiver in Lemon.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: You want to use it.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, player a lot. Let's see how they attack against
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: that commander secondary. I think, well, we'll get a good
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: early picture of where both teams are headed.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: I'm going eleven personnel more than you normally would. I
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: think they're going to be a bounce. What's called a
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: coach is called a bounce eleven twelve based on the
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: personnel grouping that Eagles have. Once they trade a J Brown,
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: they'll still have plenty of receivers, but also going to
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: a lot of tight ends. You could bounce between the two.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: But on your point, Lemon's a slot. It's gonna play
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: mostly slot. You can go heavy eleven, spread them out.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: I don't trust the Washington corners. That's it for that game.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: That's a good game, though, Yeah, absolutely, and a very
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: to me, a very telltale game.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: You'll start to learn a little bit.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: I'm so dude, I'm sucking. You got me psyched for
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: this game.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: And I'm so much happier that it was them and
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: not the Cowboy. You know how I feel about having to.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: Play fun when it's funny. Every year I say, please
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: don't be Washington, because Washington's been so bad for so long.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: I I just but this time I was like, you
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: know what I could stand watching it happened to be them. Yeah,
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: but the game Week two could be a little bit
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: more intriguing than people think.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: All right, so let's talk I love that you said that.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about it, because man, talk about a team
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: that made a lot of moves. And I remember you
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: saying in the offseason, I mean, I hope everybody I
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: can go back and find the clip if I need to.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: But Adam Kaplan, who's got more intel than anybody, said, listen,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: the Titans are going to do everything in their power
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: in this free agency and then the draft to help
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: their quarterback.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: So maybe other people were surprised when they.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Passed on like an RVL resort of Sonny starts to
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: take Carneal Tate that high, But I know you were
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: not because you knew that.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: On your point. See, I just I gotta just be
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: honest with you.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Not you agree with it.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying no, no, but not every receivers coach
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: likes Carnel Tate as much as the Titans did. Right,
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: And on your point about Sonny styles might be a
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: bit high.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: This is I agree.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: I was not endorsing their moves.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying no, no.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: No, I know, but I'm trying to explain to people
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: like you have to be careful of overdrafting just to
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: help your quarterback, because then you're going with a lower
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: graded player. Tait might be the tenth best player of
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: this draft, but Sonny Styles is probably number five.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Right, But you know what.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: They've got. Mike Burgonzi is won a lot in his career.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: He's one, He's probably one. I think he was there
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: for the three Rings with the cheese. He's got person.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: He's got full personal control the first time there with
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: the times, he's got it, and they they I thought
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: for sure they cut Calvin Ridley. I thought this is
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: they were done with him, because it was he'd been
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: made a major disappointment. They redid his deal, they brought
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: him back. It was hurt. He's back. Wanda Robinson are
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: playing a ton of the other slot receivers, a dynamic
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: slot iminor I you I manan or how do he says?
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: I you im However you say yeah, I can never
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: get it right.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Into a song.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: They're like, manor yeah, I don't know whatever it is
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: you are you manor, but he's interesting. Uh chimere d
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: k uh. They've they've got a good return game with
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: those guys. They're good there where they're not great. Daniel
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: Bellinger's there because to stay ball. But man, where's the juice? Like,
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: I know, they didn't want you to conco back? They didn't.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: He had been a big disappointment for them. That Washington's
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: paying him ten million a year. Good luck?
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but Gunnerhelm did have some moments last year.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, he started, he looked like he could be
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: a decent player, but I don't know if he's like
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: ready to be te one for a competing team.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I guess you don't love the Kyland grants. In addition, huh, man, Yeah.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: He's a special team and could run. And you know Bellinger,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: here's the thing. They're paying him eight million a year
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: on a three year deal. Like that's lowan, that's he's
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: the starter. He's not an athlete. Yeah, Like, where's your
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: athletic move guy?
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess maybe that's where they view Hilm,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: But I don't know if he's that guy. That's the
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: position they have to kind of put him in. But
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: and again I.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Thought last year. He played last year, and I can
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: remember seeing some games where.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: I thought he had some good movement skills coming out
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: of Texas, had a nice career there, so maybe they
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: maybe they will see something in him.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: But really, Adam to me, now.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: It's gonna say there, they're gonna be They're gonna be
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: heavy eleven mm hmm. With if nobody gets hurt, it's Ridley,
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Tait and Robinson yep, and now go against the Eagles,
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: they'll get yeah. I think I I you man Or
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: will be in there.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: Robinson, yeah, and the other kids the return uh Tate's
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: there is gonna be there, is gonna be their big
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: play guy. That's why, that's why he went as high
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: as he did. Really would be their mid range receiver
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: run after the catch, and Wandel's are slot. They're good there.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: Like they're gonna be heavy eleven. Now, my problem is
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: that this is where the Eagles can make their money
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: here against their offense. They're not good at center, They're
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: not good at right guard. Scronsky's good, Damn Moore is
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: okay at laughter paying him a lot of money. Latham
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: is better off right than left. That's that's his that's
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: where he played that they know he wouldn't be a
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: left tackle. He had to play right. I learned that
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: in this rookie season, but in the center, right guard
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: with the Eagles front that they should eat. Now the Eagles, now,
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: the question is, well, assuming assuming that Rik Wallen holds up.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: And obviously when you when you look at their cornerbacker,
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: you got Quinn and so you're good there. And then
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: you've got you've got Coopers, your Nickels, so you're good.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: If they're gonna go heavy eleven, you're you can match
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: up with them. I'm not worried about them. Now. Kim
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: the the word within the Titans I was told was
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: Kim Ward tried to too hard. He saw like he
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: had to do too much because they had very little talent,
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: and they try to put the seam on his back
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: and and he just he's a super competitive cares he
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: only cares about football. He's got nothing else. It's like
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: a family is like no social life. Kind of one
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: of those guy he has I'm sure has one, but
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: you get my point. He's not out there going out
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: on the town. He's a football guy.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: So you like that. But they need a move tight end.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: I could see this game being competitive a little bit.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: But when you get to their defense, that's where I
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: kind of look at and say, Okay, I don't think
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: they're going to be good enough. I just don't.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: By the way, before you do defense, I didn't. I
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: didn't even notice this until now. But Week one we
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: talked about k Tron Allen going to the Commanders, and
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: you know, good job to make the Week two. The
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Titans are the team that drafted Nicholas Singleton. Yeah yeah,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Penn State backs yeah yeah.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So there's no competition Polisher starter. I tried to
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: tell people this year when they were saying Spears will
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: compete against him. He never did. Polish there is their
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: starting now. The only question is do they let him
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: handle third down Michael Carter, who has been a third
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: down back now a great past protectors there for the
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: other Michael Carter who was drafted by the Jets, and
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: then Robisky's is backup by the way, most likely over
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: over Levis coming up an injury. But defensively, I like
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: the front with John Franklinias who had a great year
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: with Denver, the paying a ton of money with Simmons's
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: a stud Jordan Elliott comes out from the Niners, but
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: it's their pass rush, yeah, Jermaine Johnson. See they're going
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: They're going to go to a forty three front because
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: that's that's the running wide nine mm hmm. So they've
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: got Franklin Myers the Simmson of their starters. They'll be
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: great there. Jordan Allen will be the first guy off
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: the bench. Jermaine Johnson's back in the scheme that fits
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: them best as a hand of the Dirk pass rusher.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: But it's focus just not that guy.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: That's what surprised me.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Is sort of amuse you w went to scheme right,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I mean not explosive. Yeah, I would have thought that
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: they would have, you know, maybe waited later or second
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: third and taking one of those undersized speed edge rushers
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: who can just get off the ball really quickly with
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: that space in a while, you know, like a cash
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: is about how well, who else went into the second
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: or third round that I can think of that had that.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: But they did have your guy that you mentioned. They
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: did sign Jacob Barton who did really well with the
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Commanders last year, so maybe they see him as an
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: interesting scheme fit.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: But I agree with you.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: I just I don't love this four man pass rush.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: I love Jeffer Simmons, think he's a great player. Franklin
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Myers is a stout player. But to me, you've got
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: two legitimate rushers, an interior guy and Simmons. Jermaine Johnson.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: You hope he rediscovers what he had under Sally in
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: the Jets, and then we'll see what Kendrick Faull Keldrick Faulk.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna give a guy. I'm gonna give you
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: a guy. Okay Ola Oladejo, who was hurt last year,
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: was a second rounder. Sure, I think missed a big
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: chunk of the season that they really liked him last year.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: He just a ton of talent, great length. He just
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: got hurt out of UCLA. We talked about him last
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: year with Cochelle leading on to twenty five draft. I
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: just don't right now on paper or their past rush
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: isn't good enough. But the but that's the thing about
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: the Why nine. It makes your past rush better than
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: it really is. Cornerback wise, I'm spreading them out. Alante
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Taylor once was one of the best best nickels. Now
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: he's going to have to play outside again. Flat will
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: flat to me as a nickel. You could play them
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: on the outside again. Another guy that played for the Giants.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: It's yeah, he's an okay player. Winston, you know, coming
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: back from the aco injury from last year. You know
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: from Penn State. This is the second year. Money Hooker
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: has been there for a long time, made a lot
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: of money. They're getting better. They've added I give him credit,
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Mike Burganti. Credit's added more talent. But they're nowhere near there.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: This is a game.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: I want to spread them out too. They're not good
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: enough corner. M h They'll be stout up front. We'll
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: see how Saquon does here. But this is another game.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: But I would actually spread them out.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: I see that, don't they It seems like I feel
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: like they have twin nickelbacks, right. Isn't Alante Taylor a
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: guy who played well? He's playing He's played both, but
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: two or three years I played better at nickel.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: He might be, but I don't think they're good enough
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: at corner. Yeah, and that's yeah. This is a game now. This,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: by the way, will be the second game in their
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: new stadium, the new Nissan Stadium. M hmm, they play
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: did they play them? That's so funny. Ironically, Solid goes
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: up against the Jets in Week one in Nashville. Great.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Cool, Yeah, they kind of They had the two first
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: round picks, right, Tate and Falk, But I don't think
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: they had a second rounder. No, they had that. That's
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: they took the Georgia linebacker Anthony Hill. Is it Georgia
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: or Tad. They took a Anthony Hill out of I
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: thought it was either Texas. I'm sorry Texas. Right, he's good.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah, yeah, man, you would have You
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: would have loved either a second or third round defensive
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: back somewhere, you know, whether there's not. I don't.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Well, let's put it this way. If they in terraft him,
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: you're talking about a bottom three team at linebacker. Yeah,
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: and you start three of them, Remember you start three
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: of them the atrocious linebacker without him. Yeah. Well again,
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: he's a rookie, so he's got to play well. Right,
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: So they have they're change Schames. This s game they've
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: never run before. This is going to be a big
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: change for them. They were thirty four front for several years,
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: probably well over a decade. We'll see what happens. But
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: this is a fun game. I'm a big cam More guy,
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: but that he's got a long way Togo.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, the Titans cannot in the
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: court of public opinion, the Titans cannot win that game.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Score a lot of points, and the Eagles come home
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: and sports talk radio will not be filled with wish
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Brian Dable didn't want to come here. Look how good
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: of a job he's done. Look at our guy. We
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: can barely scare score points because he's a novice. That
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: that is my prediction of what a week of sports
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: talk radio would be like in Philly if the Eagles
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: lost that game because the Titans scored a lot of points.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: You know how badly the Titans won In Matt Naggy,
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: I mean Brian Matt Naggy was going to have Brian
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Dabeles bees as oc. That's how like he's really. He's
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: just not a head coach. You can't help him.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: So oh gosha, it does not have the temperament.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: No, but he coaches the hell out of quarterbacks. So
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: I'm looking forward. Tights are a team to watch just
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: they could be a little fun, but it's a game
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: I see the Eagles winning.
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  Speaker 2: Week three is gonna be.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: A fantastic one Monday Night. It is a rematch of
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: last year's Black Friday game, except it's gonna be at
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Soldier Field in Chicago. And if you're gonna go play
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: the Bears, you might as well do it in September
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: before it really gets cold. Eight fifteen, Man, Adam, this
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: is a This is a game to look forward to
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: for a lot of reasons. A for the newness that
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: we'll talk about from both teams to b you have
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: to think the Eagles absolutely want to show the role
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: that that was not their real run defense. I mean,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: they really just blew a game. But knowing how Ben
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Johnson thinks in acts, which you know, I I got
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: to kill Ben Johnson for being complete.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: He too, because he needs to be careful. Yes, and
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: they and I get it. I have no problem with
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: putting up the Bears social media team and he has
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: to okay putting it. You know, when he when he
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: took a shot off.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that the Packers thing.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, come on, I mean, and this.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: Matt Lafour manufactured nonsense is the same division because he
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: coaching Detroit. I get that. But anyway, well, let's let's
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: not forget how bad the run defense was. Right, it
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: might have been a record at the time. It might
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: be an Eagles record. It had to be. Give him
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: two hundred yard rushers in the first half that effort.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: It was embarrassing. The tape, I remember we broke down
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: the tape with Cosel. The inside the tape tw with Greg,
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: you know, like Greig, what happened? He just go, look,
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: these guys are not the right gaps. It was a
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: little bit of hero ball. Yeah, and the fact this
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: happened with Vic Fandry was shocking. I understand nobody's perfect.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Well this happened under Vic twice now, I mean year
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: one happened against the Falcons. Remember that was just the
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: got completely steam rolls.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Well. And also there was a lot going on in
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: that game. Yes offensive me, but uh the Niners game also,
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know what the hell happened that playoff game.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: That was a disaster. Yeah, broke down totally on defense.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: But so what's new? So Ben Jonson is there is
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: back again. They are another one of those teams that came
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: out of the blue. First year, did a great job.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Caleb Willms a developing quarterback. The thing is because they
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: kind of surprised a lot of people and drafted Sam
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Roush and a tight end. And remember they traded DJ
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: Moore and did nothing well. Davion Thomas is the third
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: rounder at of LSU. I mean it's a third rounder, so.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much they did it because they
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: want to get Luther Burden on the field if they
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: feel like that.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: He understand that. But here's the thing. They don't have
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: a third receiver right now. Cliff Raymond will be a
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: special taser turner. He could play slot. He's done it.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: He's not a full time third receiver. So to me,
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: with all these tight ends, folks, you're probably going to
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: see some of the sea change. I see them. I'm
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: not saying they be full time eleven at twelve, but
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: with Comet still on the roster, make them ten million
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: a year. Colston Lovelin first rounder, did very well, very athletic.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Sam Rausch you're looking at now, you're looking at more twelve,
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: way more twelve than last year. Now remember they lost their.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Wait, wait, let's go one step further, all right, okay,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: because you're right, they add rouse to a group that's
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: already got level in the comet.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: It would not surprise me.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: I'm sure the wheels are spinning and have been ever
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: since last year when Nickveigh started messing around with all
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: these three tight end formations out in my mind, depend
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: wants to do that and modify it even.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: More thirteen that because I remember when Greg said it
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: kind of surprised him when Cliff Kingsbury might have been
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: his third or fourth before he got fired from the Cardinals.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: He was bringing his offense from Texas Tech, and like
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden, he was playing a lot of twelve,
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: like way more than twelve personnel than he had before. Well,
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: Sean McVay had never shown the inclination to run any
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: thirteen personnel. Well, for a big chunk of the season,
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: they ran most thirteen person on the NFL, which is
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: three ten ENDSWM receiver, one back. Yep. So yeah, coaches evolve,
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: So here you go, so be ready for it. Now,
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: if do they have a power back manung guy who
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: is a good story. DeAndre Swift is their starter who's explosive,
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: but he's not a power back. Now one area where
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: the Eagles could look at and feel good about it.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: Garrett Bradbury, because of Drew Dolman's retirement, is an undersized
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: The bear had to do something, so they traded for him. Yep,
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: who is turning thirty one soon. He's a smaller guy.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: That's good for their interior. Bradbury is not a guy like.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: That's a guy I'm gonna see up. I'm gonna make
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: sure that I run stunts at him. They should be
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: able to move him a little bits.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And then I know they drafted a center
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: guard type, Logan Jones from Ionah. He's ready though he's
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: he's under three hundred pounds. Man, he's like two ninety
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: nine I think.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, three just under sixty three. Eventually he'll be their starter,
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: but I don't know will be this season. But so
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: right on on surface, jorn On Wright's a stud way
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: better than people thought. He's really good. Joe Tutney, she's
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: screwed up there. They panicked the guy had to play
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: left tap against the Eagles. I mean, you're gonna really
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: hold that against the thick he can't play anymore.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think that's what.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: I think they just strided Hi because he was getting
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: up in age and getting he.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: Was really good.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: He was They got a third rounder for him.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: It wasn't like they just know, but they thought he
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: was on the on the major aggression. He wasn't. And
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Jonah Jackson should he He's plenty left He had a
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: lot of injuries, but he's been good. No, they're good.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: Uh is.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Is that they're left tackle who they drafted last year
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: in the second round high Ozzi Trapillo got hurt and
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: he's gonna be on the shelf. But I swear I
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: think that Jedrick Willis signing was kind of sneaky good
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: on their part.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, will you will he was a stud before
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: he got hurt. He was never the same. Yeah, I'm
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: glad you mentioned that. That was a nice signing, very
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: underrated because they went through Benadette Trapillo. There's a Braxton
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Jones who also got hurt his back by the way
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: they resigned him. Yeah, so this is this won't be
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: easy because Ben Johnson an incredible schemer and play caller.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: But I totally agree with you're set up here before
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: we move their defense. If I'm Fangio, not that he's
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: going to change the way he does anything, but I'm
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: gonna have a little bit extra and the players, and
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: I'm making sure because I know coaches do this. Hm, well,
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: they have to look at the tape because they played
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: them last year, but it's got to piss them off.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: And that tape was embarrassing.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Oh god, definitely, I mean, and I think that was
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: the game. That was the game where right after Jalen
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Carter then went on too, did he go on? I
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: r he took the three or four weeks off to
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: have the the shoulders procedures because he just couldn't do
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: anything that game.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure that that contribute to it. But they
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: also were at a gap. They played like crap.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, were all around.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So so now when you look at their defense,
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: you Dennis Allen, it's done, did a good, really good job.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: They run there, he runs a forty three. The big
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: issue they have, and I'm so stunned. I know part
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: of why they didn't do anything major is dioe o'dengbo
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: got hurt last year, who they signed from the cult
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: to big free agent contract. He got hurt so they
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: couldn't cut him. So he's back. Austin Booker's mister training camp.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: If he saw him on hard knocks and Monte what's
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: rusher there's they don't rush the passure. They don't rush
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: the passer, well enough, they don't. That's good when you
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: go if you're the Eagles, you like that.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Obviously now they've played Dennis Allen's a good defensive coordinator,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: and they've kind of schemed their way around it, especially
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: last year. But to your point, they won four or
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: five games last year in the fourth quarter with these
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: amazing comebacks, including against the Packers and in the playoffs
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: That stuff doesn't happen every single year. People learn you,
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: they see your tendencies, they study you. This happened to
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: the Eagles. So to think that they.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Can't the Bears will just come in and, you know,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: pull off all these fourth quarter victories with what you're saying,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: with the pass rush not being as juicy as you'd
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: like it to be, it's gonna be very difficult. He
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: can't just rely on heroics.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: They had some unblo Remember the play where you got
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: they got the Packers right where what's his face?
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Where? Williams just ran back thirty yards flung the ball.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: It's called that's not gonna happen every year?
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Was that a money night game? Because I remember being
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: so pissed off. I just someone as an observer, I'm like,
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: this kid, this is such luck.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Right, he just threw it up. It was unbelievable.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: But but let's defend Ben Johnson or he did a
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: phenomenal job.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: He did.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: There's no two in the position to succeed, for sure.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: Brian Dable went through it. And after they came out
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: of nowhere and twenty two to win a playoff game.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: Hit the kids after that, Rogers pretty good.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: You take it away from him.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: They know how to run the ball. They will run
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: on anybody.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: They're anong guy. Holy smokes, is he good?
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: From Rutgers.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And Swift could still play. Caleb Williams. He's a
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: super aggressive thrower who had to play under center, had
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: to learn how to do it. It was a work
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: in progress. He was very up and down, but his
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Some of his games were phenomenal, some were not. This
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: is the second year he's having another offseason with Ben Johnson,
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: expect him to be better, but he was gonna match
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: up against them, especially without DJ Moore. Luther Burden now
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: is his full time starter who could run, run after
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: the catch. Guy rome o'doonzay now is a guy's gonna
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: get more pass targets. You know, they're loaded of ten
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: end This would be a tough matchup for the Egals. Defense.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Burdens the guy to look for for your fantasy dynasty folks.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: I mean that that's a guy who can step into
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: that and catch a lot of balls. And really, now
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: that DJ Moore is not in his way on defense,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: the thing that you're you're talking about at him is
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: that they really they're they're not a great defense, but
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: and they they're kind of doing the run at back. Then, yes,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: they lost from Edmunds the linebacker to the Giants, so
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: they signed Devin Bush. They lose Brisker, And when I
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: say lose, I'm not sure how aggressive the Bears were
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: retaining these guys.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: They signed Kobe Bryant, so it's really just that to change.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: The One thing though, that I really love is that
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: they drafted Dylan Daneman in the in the first round.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think he can. He'll be an early
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: candidate for Rookie of the Year because he might just slide.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Right into that.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Dennis Allis defense and patrol the back end, have a
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: billion tackles, do everything he's asked to do. He does
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: everything well.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: So they went on defense by scheme, not talent, and
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: they just don't have much. Grady Jared, I know they're
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: very happy with this leadership. Showed he could still play.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: Pay him a lot of money, but he still played well.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: Grvon Dexter was the second rounder a couple of years ago. Uh,
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: the venerable Kentavious Street, he's still going a given crowd,
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: he's still playing. And Nevill Gallimore remember him from the Rams,
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: the journeyman. Uh now corner see Jalen Johnson is so talented,
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: but he's been hurt a lot. Kyler Gordon is their
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: nickel for not one of the best nicklas in the league.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: Got hurt a lot last year. It was hurt unfortunately.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: Kobe Bryant, a Super Bowl winner with the Seahawks, is
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: over there at safety with the Anemen. As you mentioned,
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Tyrek Stevenson's back, who's been an interesting player for them. Yeah,
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: it's funny his rookie deal. So they have enough talent
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: in the back end, but this is a team you
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: should be able to protect against.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And this is where I think the fourth quarter
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: wins from last year will come back back to them
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: a little bit.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: And I think that you can move the ball to
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: see they have to.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: They're almost a little bit like San Francisco and that
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: they gotta get early. You would think this year they're
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: gonna have to lead some games because if they I
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: don't know if they can pull off coming from behind
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: all the time. You need your defense to get stops
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: and I don't just I just don't love this defense enough.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: It's got some old guys there and there Edwards up there.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Like, would you be surprised if I said,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: by the end of the year their best defensive player
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: with Staneman.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: No, And I haven't a drop offf team, to be
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: honest with you, Yeah, because Detroit was my drop off
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: team last year and that happened. But I expect them
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: to bounce back somewhat. Green Bay is gonna be very good.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: Minnesota is the who the hell knows, because here's the
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: quarterback problem.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I definitely think that I don't put much
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: in revenge factor, but I do think the Eagles are
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: going to go into this game thinking about what happened
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: last year and wanting to rectify that and show the
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Bears what they're all about.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: I would expect, and it'll be no worse than two
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: and one. I know we're not going to game my
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: game picking games, but we'll do that when we do
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: the posted pre game show. But it's a fun first
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: three weeks and the fourth week, Holy you know, it's
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: donet getting better than this.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: So I gotta ask you that why is ray? I
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: get that the Eagles run so many different slots?
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: I know why.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Why the heck is Eagles rams, two huge markets, two
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: great teams, a one o'clock game.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: Well, okay, so there are a couple of things. Well,
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: I agree that it should be a four o'clock game.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: I don't know what was last year's last year also
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: one o'clock game, it was yes week three by the way,
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: at Philly Week three. Well, first of all, when you
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: look at the rams, and I don't necessarily agree with it,
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: but I heard the explanation from Mike North, who's the
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: who oversees the scheduling, they're now all national team. I
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: understand maybe they don't have the greatest fan support, but
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: as a watch Matthew Stafford, yeah, Sean McVay, yep, whin
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: they win, they win, they in, they score. Their fun
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: team to watch. They're fun team, Like they're a musty
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: TV type of team. But they don't have the national
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: falling from the fan base, but from a watchability, people
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: want to see them. They're not getting seven primetime games
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: unless they're watching like, people love watching them. It's kind
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: of weird, like they don't have the national following in
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: terms of fan base, but people there their TV rings
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: are huge. Sure Stafford defy Adams, right, Poka Nakua ye.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, people know these guys.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they're They're very well coached. Look, they're they
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: can't be the Egle for some reasons. The oddest last
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: year was ridiculous. What happened? Three quarters? Eagles play bleep
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: and then Jordan Davis takes over and all sorts of
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: crazy stuff happened.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: They give the Eagles the They give the Eagles fits
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: almost every time, except for that one game where he
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: just ran all over them, But even that was a
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: third quarter breakout. But and then when it comes time
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: to making like the essential play, they just completely crap
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: the bed. You know, whether it's that fourth down in
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: the snow in the playoff game where they got where
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Stafford got sacked and then threw the ball over, or
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: or the blocked field goals.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: It just it's the Rams against the Eagles, I mean,
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: and sa Quon I mean once in the twenty fourth season,
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: I mean it just it it he had fourth place
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: of sixty yards or more like that. That's how special
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: he was. Now the Rams still have that small front.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: They're all back. Brandon Fiscus back put on a Ford
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: five ft ten and a half thirty four and three
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: quarters in charms. Don't explain it. I don't know how
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: that happens. I have six foot one half inch. I
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: have thirty four in a quarter, thirty three in a
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: quarter in charms. I have long arms for my size.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: Kind of weird. But Kobe Turner's back terrific. What's that?
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: I said, you got right guard arms.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: That's great.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: I know it's weird. Yeah, but when I was fat
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: five years ago, yeah, probably could have played right guard.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: But they run their thirty four Byron Young is elite,
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: is a pass rusher versus phenomenal. They're smaller inside backer. See,
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: that's the thing with them. They don't like their cash.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: Ben is loaded with Stafford, Kyron Williams. DeVante Adams is
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: gonna be with poc Nacola once they forgot the situation.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: Kevin Dottson. They're paying big Coin who came out of
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: nowhere a couple of years ago. They got to make decisions.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: Steve Steve Avilla. Trent mcduffin is thirty million plus per season.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: You know, Quinton Lake paying him. You got's extension. So
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: there's certain positions. But linebacker they're not paying. They're small.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: You could you could run on them. Man, that's this
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: is a game now. I say that at corner. McDuffie's
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: a stud. Jalen Watson's a nice player. After that, Emmanuel Forbes,
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: I was shocked, like he kind of revived his career.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: But I thought to Quentin Lake at the Super Bowl,
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: kind of like them that hybrid role. Man, Yeah, that's
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: kind of the way they see him.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he functions well there, I tell you on a
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: bigger picture.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: The one thing that I really don't like about the Rams,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: but I also didn't like it about them last year
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: the year before. Is their depth. I feel like at
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: several key positions, including quarterback, wide receiver, corner right that
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: if one or two guys goes down, I just think
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: their backups. I thought the Commanders had better depth than
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: the Rams. We the Commanders, we're talking about guys who
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: NFL experience, who could be four down, who win you games.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: Like he goes lose up.
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  Speaker 1: I mean the Rams lose a pass rusher or a
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: court I mean their backup quarterback is either going to
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: be a rookie or Stetson Bennett that doesn't throw me,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: you know, Like they get one injury to wide receiver,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you guys see like Jordan
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Whittington play.
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  Speaker 3: No, Well he's their three. But okay, so let's let's
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: let's go over kind of matchup boys quickly here. So
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: they're gonna be heavy twelve or heavy thirteen. Personal why
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: they don't have the three is Weddington. I was at
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: their training camp two years ago. He's got good size
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: running after the catch. He's not explosive. You're right, they
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: have no Depthit receiver, it's Adams, it's Puka Woddington will
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: be there to fall three, so they're gonna be heavy
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  Speaker 3: twelve with Parkinson, who did a great job in the playoffs.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: He's back, Higby's back, Terrens Ferguson's back, or second round
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: or last year Max Claire, that was see I know
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: now now, I know some people are like, oh, it's
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: it's because Higgby's on a one year deal in Parkinson's
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: contract expiers after the season. But back back to back
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: years with tight end second round is so unorthodox.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: I know. I guess, right, I guess his retort mcvays
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: to me, unless he would be we don't worry about
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: receiver depth because we've got four tight ends and they're
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: all really good.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, you've said this before. These guys will function
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: as a third receiver because they'll play. They could play
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: one guy if you move Adams, if Adams is out
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: for a game, or you want to play Adams inside
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: on third down, you could play one of those athletic
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: tenants X or Claire at X.
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  Speaker 2: Right, it just makes you more It makes you slower
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: and more methodical. But that's really what the Rams are.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: They don't have no explosive players, even Pooka He's explosive
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: because he's physical, but.
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  Speaker 3: He can't win. Is a true outside receiver. That's why
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: he reduces him. I mean, I know talking to their
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: coaches over the years, Sean knew that when he got
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: Cooper Cup, he knew exactly who Cooper was. Yeah, you
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: had to reduce him. He might look like an outside
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: receiver before the snap, he moves inside a little bit. Yeah,
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: you know, he's that's that's it.
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  Speaker 1: Works for all my critique. They move the ball deliberately,
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  Speaker 1: really well.
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  Speaker 2: It's just that they have to have that structure in
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: place of Cop.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: And another thing before we move to the defense. If
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: the Eagles pass rush is what we think it's going
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: to be, I'm thinking this kid, the kid Keegan trut Trust,
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: the third rounder at a Missouri who's a guard right tackle,
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: he better start a right tackle because Warn McClendon, I
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: remember talking to when we talked to BG last year.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: BG crushed the guy before tours Achilles.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, played better down the stretch last year. I mean
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: he might have improved since that awful game against a triceps.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, he he he got better.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: But you're right in that and this is again, this
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: is the Rams Suit's a low average, nothing sexy on
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: the old line. Just a big bunch of brooy guys
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: who run the ball well and workoff play action.
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: They Lark Jackson's been a stunner as an unter after
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: free agent at twenty one. He's a solid left tackle.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: Steve Avila's on a Funnie Vers rookie deal. Who has
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: been a good story. Coleman Shell who came back, was
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: with the Rams. Bears on the Rams and Dylan not
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: Vince McMahon former Eagles their backup center. He's too small,
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: should be a full back. This is see I and
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: of course Stafford's elite. Ty Simpson, as he mentioned, Kyd
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: Walls and played corner good Corn did a good job
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: last year.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in fact, I kind of I like Corum a
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: little bit more to the outside than I do Kyram Williams.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: But but you see why the Eagles do well against
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: him because the Eagles are bigger and more athletic. They
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: match up very wealth the Rams, as you said at
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: the starter with this thing, they haven't changed much. Yeah,
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: other at corner they added that's big. They spent big
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: on two chiefs corners.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Well, the Eagles have always always hit the Rams with
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: shot plays, whether it was with Barkley or as whether
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: it's wide receivers. I will say as we get into
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: the defense, the Rams have shored up their defense. They're
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: not as bad at corner as they were. I mean
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: they've added a stud in McDuffie, and last year when
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: they played the actually like everybody, they did a much
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: better job against Barkley. I think the Rams are also
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: a tough matchup for the Eagles because what do we
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: say is the recipe or the antidote to a vic
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: fan joe defense. It's being patient, deliberate, finding voids in
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: the zones, not trying to overdo it and force it.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: And that's what Stafford's pretty good at because that's what
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: his weaponry is. It's running the ball, it's hitting your
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: tight ends, finding Nikoua and Williams across the middle of
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: the field, occasionally deep, but it doesn't have to be
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: a big part of their game. So the way they
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: move the ball is a good way to battle against
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: the Fangio defense and that's why they tend to be
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: high scoring games.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I McVeigh wins by scheme again. You just just
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: to finish their offensive. That's how they win there. They're
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: committed to the run. It starts with the run. Everything
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: they do off that play action, Stafford is you better
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: be ready at corner because he's super aggressive. He doesn't care,
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: he does not care. He doesn't care that Quannon's elite.
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: Maybe you don't think he can go against Quannon. He'll
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: get he'll go against one. Well, he's going against one plenty,
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: but he's not afraid of Quinnon. He it don't don't
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: do whatever they feel like they have to do. So
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: Eagles matchup well against them, and uh, I like VIC
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: against them, I really do. Mm hmm. It's the There
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: are a lot of matchups that I believe we're going
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: to go very well for the Eagles. Against that offensive line,
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: they could eat, they could. They mentally have to be
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: ready because because McVeigh does a lot of misdirection, it's
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: it's a lot of stuff that's very unique, very unique
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: motion and all that.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: M hm. So yeah, no, I see that. I kind
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: of like the match up for both offenses against each defense,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: to be honest with you, And I think that now
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: that the Rams, who didn't blitz a whole lot, Chris
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: Rula did a great job played a lot of his own.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: Got a great four man rush because he has Fisk,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: and he's got Verse, and he's got Byron Young and
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: he's got Kobe Turner. That was good.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Those guys all get at the quarterback.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: But now if he doesn't want to spice up a
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: little bit, because you're always trying to evolve, well, you
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: have Trent McDuffie to use as a guy who can
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: rush the quarterback from the second level if you want
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: to add that, and Carl has been able to do
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: that too, so they're a little bit more diverse defensively.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: I think that will give the Eagles a little bit
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: of trouble because the Eagles by week four will still
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: be learning their new offense and what they know about
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: the Rams from playing them in the past won't necessarily
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: be the same because of what the Rams have added
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: a little bit there in the secondary, So that'll probably
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: trip them up a little bit.
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: Well, they've gone against mctealfan Watson the Super Bowl, so
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: they know these guys what Watson was so good. He
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: got pressed into service to be a starting corner, did
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: a good jay. He's got great length, he just is
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: not fast right. Curl and Kitchens and Lake when they playing,
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: they're great at safety. Forbes shocked me, like he played
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: competent football. He had been awful before last season. He's
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: got length, he can move, but he's skinny. But he
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: did a good job. But I'll tell you what I'm
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: going after Hi. When he's on the field, that's a
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: guy you can be. He still can beat him.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: All right, So after four weeks, what are the two
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: and two, three and one?
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: For three and one, I would say three and one.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. It's a challenging first four because
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: we didn't when we did the schedule, we did an
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: overall schedule. Look, we didn't really talk it like the
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: way we're doing here, which is awesome. Yeah, the commit
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: the week's one and we three and four or just
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: well and we'll do week five and we'll do the
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: Jags game and the other ones that. To be honest
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: with you, I didn't think of it like this when
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: we did the schedule review show. I don't realize quite
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: frank of how tough the first three out of four.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: Washington's a lot better than people think. Again, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean they're not.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: To me, they're not five win team. They're like a
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: nine to ten win team.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: I agree with that, and if the quarterback plays amazingly,
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: then then all bets are off. And yeah, we saw
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: that had two years ago. So yeah, I think the
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: Eagles should be two and zero, and then I think
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: the next two games Bears Rams are are coin flips.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: So I would imagine three and one.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: But if they were two and two, I wouldn't be like, oh,
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: this team is really disappointing. I think fans, of course,
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: you know, you can't lose no matter what you do,
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: you can't lose in Philadelphia. But I think fans will
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: be really concerned the way I think it's pretty tough.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: It was twenty two, okay, twenty twenty twos they made
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: the Super Bowl loss in Kansas City, but Eagles were
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: two and threefter the first five. Okay, right, I'm also
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: not the EULs obvious look at the Rams' wrongka. One
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: of the years where the Eagles were great, I don't or.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: The very good the year they won the Super Bowl
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: for the first time in twenty seventeen. One one, yeah,
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: one on one.
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: That was when the players went the douggat said they
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: got to run the ball after weekend.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: Because they lost to Kansas City in week two.
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: What year was it they were good? Maybe it was
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: with Andy.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: I like two thousand and three they were one and three.
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: One year they were bad and they well know they
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: were actually wow, no, they were actually owing two and
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: oh three.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they went one and then they won
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: and then lost again. So there were one in three.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was okay. They were two and three.
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: They went lost to one two, then lost week six
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: and then went on a major winning streak. Right, So
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: you're right. I wouldn't I seen them being three one
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: one way together. Two and two would be the absolute worst.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, well we think that will do it.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: That's good. That's a good look at week one through four,
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: and then we'll next episode will do part two. We'll
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: get into the second part of the schedule.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: That's gonna do it.
• 57:02
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