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Sophie Cachia's Surprising Baby Plans · Outspoken the Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
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Speaker 1: Amy Torber. And I'm Kate Torber. And coming up on
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Speaker 1: today's show, Barley cracks down on influencers, Molly May's luxury
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Speaker 1: car regret, Olivia Rogers' wildly intense birth story, and Sophie
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Speaker 1: Keisha's surprising baby plans. But first, is having a Snapchat
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Speaker 1: group chat considered too millennial?
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Speaker 2: Oh.
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Speaker 1: Because over the weekend, we were shamed on our Instagram
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Speaker 1: story when we shared a screenshot from a conversation that
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Speaker 1: we were having in our own Snapchat group chat about
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Speaker 1: Off Campus. Yeah, thank you for that. I was not
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Speaker 1: expecting that to appear suddenly on Outspoken's page. Pretty embarrassing
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Speaker 1: because I have been peer pressured into watching Off Campus.
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Speaker 1: I said last week that I was not interested in
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Speaker 1: the teen drama. I am hooked. Thank you for those
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Speaker 1: in the Facebook community who encouraged me to watch it.
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Speaker 1: You're not only hooked, you also have fallen in love
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Speaker 1: with Garrett Graham. Yeah, so I shared in our private
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Speaker 1: Snapchat group a picture from Belmont's Instagram account and I wrote, well,
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Speaker 1: I'm a wannabe puck bunny now. It was very funny.
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Speaker 1: I legitimately laughed out loud. That's very millennial of me
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Speaker 1: to say. But as soon as I saw Sophie's little
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Speaker 1: bitmoji appear, I knew what she was going to do.
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Speaker 1: I knew that conversation wasn't private. It ends up though,
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Speaker 1: that the joke really was on her because one of
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Speaker 1: our listeners DM'd us saying, you all having a Snapchat
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Speaker 1: group is so millennial. Now I want to throw us
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Speaker 1: under the bus further because The Snapchat group in question
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Speaker 1: is actually called Sissy Chat. Yeah, I think one of
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Speaker 1: the rules of having a millennial group chat of any
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Speaker 1: kind is it has to have a really lame title. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean we were taking the piss when we named
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Speaker 1: it that. We've got another group chat with a friend
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Speaker 1: of ours and for some reason it's called Ginge Candy
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Speaker 1: Girls Chat. Oh, I thought you were going to talk
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Speaker 1: about the one we've got a MILFs chat as well.
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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 1: I thought it would be funny with one of our
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Speaker 1: friends who's a mum as well. I couldn't care less
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Speaker 1: whether this was considered millennial it is a necessity to
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Speaker 1: have a group chat. And US content creator, Jillian Gerdt,
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Speaker 1: she summarized my thoughts exactly.
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Speaker 2: A millennial's version of a support system is a group chat.
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Speaker 2: It's four people and nobody's qualified. And the name would
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Speaker 2: absolutely ruin our careers. That is where we process trauma.
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Speaker 2: That is where we make major life decisions. I mean,
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Speaker 2: sometimes you'll just be having a full-on mental breakdown and
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Speaker 2: the response is just a meme. And you're like, honestly,
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Speaker 2: that helped. That is more than just a friendship. That
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Speaker 2: is a crowdsourced coping mechanism.
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Speaker 1: I need to point out, Jillian was talking about group
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Speaker 1: chats in general, and I think Gen Zers are involved
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Speaker 1: in group chats, but I don't think that they use
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Speaker 1: Snapchat to have a group chat. And We have a
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Speaker 1: group chat on Messenger and in our text messages and
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Speaker 1: on Snapchat. And my husband finds it so funny. He's like,
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Speaker 1: hang on, you have like three different chats going on
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Speaker 1: with your sisters. And I'm like, yeah, because there's different purposes.
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Speaker 1: So the Snapchat group chat is for conversations that you
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Speaker 1: want to disappear. The funniest thing about it is we
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Speaker 1: could be having a fight in our Messenger group chat
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Speaker 1: and then you'll send through a Snapchat totally unrelated. Everyone's like, oh,
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Speaker 1: that's so cute. Yeah, it's weird, isn't it?
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Speaker 4: So this is my, what I thought was beige-y, brass-y, silvery.
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Speaker 4: I mean, do you know what? The description I'm giving
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Speaker 4: is exactly how it actually looks, to be honest. I
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Speaker 4: just feel as though in some lights, it just looks
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Speaker 4: incredibly gold.
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Speaker 1: Molly Mae is having serious regret about the color of
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Speaker 1: her new luxury car. The UK influencer, who is due
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Speaker 1: to give birth to her second child any day now,
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Speaker 1: made the revelation in her latest YouTube video. Now, the
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Speaker 1: car in question is a Mercedes G-Wagon, which retails for
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Speaker 1: around 200,000 pounds. And it's actually the second G-Wagon that
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Speaker 1: Molly has owned because just before she gave birth to
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Speaker 1: her first daughter, Bambi, she bought the same model, but
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Speaker 1: in a chocolate brown color. Now, at the time, she
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Speaker 1: shared a photo of the car on her Instagram and wrote,
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Speaker 1: bought myself a cool mom car. She then went on
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Speaker 1: to say it was her dream car and had been
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Speaker 1: on her goals list for a very long time. Look,
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Speaker 1: it's not uncommon for a pregnant woman to purchase a
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Speaker 1: bigger family car, but it just cracks me up that
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Speaker 1: this is the second G-Wagon that she has bought in
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Speaker 1: the space of like three years. What happened to the
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Speaker 1: brown one? That was beautiful. Yeah, I was pretty surprised
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Speaker 1: because this car was really her pride and joy. She
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Speaker 1: spoke about how she kept it in mint condition, but
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Speaker 1: she admitted she was actually advised to upgrade the car.
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Speaker 1: She said, oh, I think it's something to do with
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Speaker 1: the lease being up. I don't really know. I don't
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Speaker 1: know the terminology. I'm guessing she actually means the warranty
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Speaker 1: because g-wagon warranties last four years and she's had the
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Speaker 1: car for three and a half years so it makes
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Speaker 1: sense now we need to talk about the color because
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Speaker 1: she thought she ordered the car in a beige color
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Speaker 1: which is very molly may yeah it cracked me up
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Speaker 1: so many people were commenting on tiktok like why is
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Speaker 1: everything she owns beige it's on brand for her yeah
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Speaker 1: unfortunately when the car arrived she realized it was actually
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Speaker 1: gold let's take a listen to what she said i.
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Speaker 4: Ordered the car in what i thought was like a beige,
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Speaker 4: a beige colour, like a silvery, beige goldy, I don't
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Speaker 4: even know, I just thought it was kind of like
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Speaker 4: a subtle, like pearlescent-y, beige-y colour, with maybe a slight
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Speaker 4: fleck of gold in it, but like, anyway, the cars come,
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Speaker 4: and I haven't actually told any of my friends and
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Speaker 4: family this year, because they all think I love the car,
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Speaker 4: but basically I've decided that I'm actually like, the colour
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Speaker 4: is not for me.
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Speaker 1: At all, Now, I did some research and the colour
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Speaker 1: Molly purchased is actually called colour hair gold, which is
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Speaker 1: described as a distinctive, luxurious matte gold paint finish. Maybe
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Speaker 1: she didn't read those details. Like maybe she was just
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Speaker 1: shown a photo and went, yep, you know, there's so
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Speaker 1: much going on. I'm heavily pregnant. I'll take that one.
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Speaker 1: I mean, a lot of people find that difficult to
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Speaker 1: believe that you wouldn't actually, you know, do the research
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Speaker 1: into a $ 200, 000 car. What is obvious to me is
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Speaker 1: she didn't see it in person. And I'm wondering if
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Speaker 1: it was some sort of push present from Tommy and
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Speaker 1: maybe he goes, pick which one you want online and
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Speaker 1: I'll work it out for you. I mean, he's been
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Speaker 1: away at a training camp while she's heavily pregnant. Maybe
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Speaker 1: this is a bit of an apology as well. I
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Speaker 1: actually liked the gold, but I could see what she meant.
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Speaker 1: It was very flashy and you could just imagine her
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Speaker 1: pulling up. In front of paparazzi and just looking like
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Speaker 1: this real wanker that's bought herself this bright gold car. Yeah, well,
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Speaker 1: she actually said part of the reason that she doesn't
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Speaker 1: like the colour is because it's drawing too much attention.
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Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.
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Speaker 4: And every time I drive around in it, everyone's like,
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Speaker 4: as if to be like, I'm driving one of those
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Speaker 4: cars that wants to be looked at. And it's really
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Speaker 4: not the case. I don't want the car to be
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Speaker 4: looked at.
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Speaker 1: I absolutely love Molly Mae, but I can see the
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Speaker 1: irony in that comment. Like, oh, I don't want any attention,
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Speaker 1: but I'm driving around in a 200K G-Wagon. Yeah, but
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Speaker 1: where she lives, probably everyone's driving around in a fucking G-Wagon. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but if you're trying to not be noticed by the
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Speaker 1: paparazzi and you're driving into Manchester, you're going to stand
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Speaker 1: out like a sore thumb in a G-Wagon, aren't you?
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Speaker 1: Have you seen her sister Zoe Ray's car? Because that
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Speaker 1: car stands out. I think it's a Land Rover. It's massive.
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Speaker 1: And it's this really unique blue. No, I actually haven't
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Speaker 1: seen Zoe Ray's, but I remember when Molly May got
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Speaker 1: her license, she got it when she was about 21
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Speaker 1: or 22. And she ended up buying herself a Land
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Speaker 1: Rover straight off the back. And people were like, oh
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Speaker 1: my God, I can't believe she splurged on that car.
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Speaker 1: But that was nothing compared to these G wagons. She
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Speaker 1: bought her mama car as well for Christmas. So this
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Speaker 1: is the thing, like we think it's such a big
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Speaker 1: deal getting a $ 200, 000 car. But for these people, it's nothing.
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Speaker 1: Like the fact that she didn't view the colour in
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Speaker 1: person is now just saying, you know what, I'm just
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Speaker 1: going to get it wrapped. I'm just going to change
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Speaker 1: the colour completely. Like this is a small issue for her.
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Speaker 1: This isn't as big as it is for us. In
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Speaker 1: terms of the colour that she's going to get the
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Speaker 1: car wrapped in, do we think she's going to go
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Speaker 1: beige or do you think she could go matcha and
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Speaker 1: have the little Mercedes logos in that light pink sort
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Speaker 1: of strawberry matcha colour? I think if she doesn't want
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Speaker 1: to draw attention to herself with a gold car, I
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Speaker 1: hardly think she's going to get a matcha coloured car.
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Speaker 3: As soon as my way of apology for the previous debacle,
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Speaker 3: Flylo offered us a very good deal on a package
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Speaker 3: holiday to Colombia. Now as soon as we came out
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Speaker 3: of Bogota... As soon as we came out of Bogota airport,
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Speaker 3: Peter was bitten by a rabid dog.
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Speaker 1: Influencer's love affair with Bali may be over. Indonesian immigration
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Speaker 1: authorities are cracking down on foreign content creators working on
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Speaker 1: tourist visas. A task force has even been specifically set
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Speaker 1: up to target content creators illegally creating promotional content in
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Speaker 1: the holiday hotspot. Now, this recent shift signals a real
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Speaker 1: pivot from Bali's previously lenient attitude towards influencers. Yeah, for
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Speaker 1: many years, there's been a real gray area around whether
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Speaker 1: influencer brand deals were considered a visa breach. But since
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Speaker 1: April this year, Bali's immigration authorities are getting rid of
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Speaker 1: any of that uncertainty and and are treating the influencer
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Speaker 1: economy as an immigration problem. Yeah, it's really interesting when
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Speaker 1: you delve deeper because they are saying that they consider
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Speaker 1: a breach to be any work that could cause economic
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Speaker 1: benefit to the tourists, even if money doesn't exchange hands.
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Speaker 1: So that means that influencers can no longer accept free
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Speaker 1: hotel stays, no unpaid photo shoots for cafes or bikini brands.
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Speaker 1: It's going to be a real hit to a lot
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Speaker 1: of influencers. Yeah, and I means for things like holiday
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Speaker 1: vlogs where influencers earn AdSense on that content? Like, is
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Speaker 1: that a visa breach? Yeah. I think that they might
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Speaker 1: turn a blind eye to that. That would be harder
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Speaker 1: to prove because if you get home and you create
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Speaker 1: a holiday vlog. Yeah, surely not.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: It's not just influencers they're cracking down on either. Officials
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Speaker 1: are also looking into photographers and DJs that work for freebies.
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Speaker 1: So sort of influencer adjacent fields as such. And they're
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Speaker 1: taking this really seriously. They've already set up a task
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Speaker 1: force of hundreds of offices to actively review social media
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Speaker 1: content to find influencers illegally working. I just imagine this room.
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Speaker 1: of male officers scrolling bikini photos and zooming in and
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Speaker 1: being like, hang on, this is just work. It's quite
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Speaker 1: funny because- This is an ad. It's quite funny because
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Speaker 1: they're specifically focusing on regions like Canggu and Uluwatu and
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Speaker 1: they're literally patrolling these hotspots. In the first three weeks
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Speaker 1: of the operation, they found 62 foreigners in breach of
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Speaker 1: their travel visas. I wonder if Bonnie Blue sparked any
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Speaker 1: of this because she was going to be deported for
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Speaker 1: filming content over there. I mean, I get it. There
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Speaker 1: are a lot of people who are working over there
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Speaker 1: and they're not declaring it. So I can see why
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Speaker 1: this is an issue. It is a really interesting move
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Speaker 1: though when you consider how important tourism actually is for
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Speaker 1: Bali because it is a massive part of their economy
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Speaker 1: and obviously it brings in a lot of opportunities for locals.
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Speaker 1: I think it's just indicative of how society views influencers
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Speaker 1: at the moment. I mean, it's got a really negative
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Speaker 1: connotation attached to the word and people don't want to
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Speaker 1: give influencers a free ride, even if it's helping them out.
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Speaker 1: I wonder if there's an element of revenue raising though,
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Speaker 1: because Bali, it's still recovering from COVID. A year working
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Speaker 1: visa costs around $ 1, 500 to $ 2, 500 Australian dollars. That's a
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Speaker 1: lot of money. Also factoring in how many people are
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Speaker 1: receiving fines now. It's pretty fascinating when you compare Bali's
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Speaker 1: treatment of influencers to the way Dubai treats influencers. I mean,
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Speaker 1: obviously this was pre the Iran war. But Dubai is
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Speaker 1: renowned for welcoming influencers with open arms. They've even created
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Speaker 1: special visas to get them to live there. So it's
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Speaker 1: really the opposite of what Bali is now doing. I mean,
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Speaker 1: Bali is making it difficult for influencers to work there.
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Speaker 1: We know how much Molly Mae's sister Zoe Ray hated Bali.
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Speaker 1: Imagine if they came and fined her for her influencer work. Well,
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Speaker 1: in terms of these penalties that influencers are facing if
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Speaker 1: they are found to breach their travel visa, there are
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Speaker 1: hefty fines. They can also be deported immediately and face
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Speaker 1: a potential travel ban and a lengthy travel ban in that.
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Speaker 1: I've been craving these silly little dot cakes. Nara Smith
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Speaker 1: has recreated the viral dot cake and I'm not okay.
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Speaker 1: Let's have a listen.
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Speaker 2: Even though it's literally just a cake with some sprinkles
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Speaker 2: on top, I needed to try it.
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Speaker 1: I got started making my sprinkles since those take about
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Speaker 1: seven hours. Now you heard correctly. The overall process of
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Speaker 1: making those sprinkles took seven hours. It took two and
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Speaker 1: a half hours just to pipe them out alone. She
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Speaker 1: was doing every single sprinkle. Imagine how much B-roll she had.
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Speaker 1: Like as a videographer, I'm like, fuck, that would have
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Speaker 1: been awful to have to go through to condense it
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Speaker 1: down to that one minute clip. Do we think she
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Speaker 1: really did it? She's surely got to help her to
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Speaker 1: do the rest of it. No, I reckon she did it.
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Speaker 1: What I had an issue with is the fact, and
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Speaker 1: I don't want to be picky because she made them herself,
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Speaker 1: but why were they only in red, green and blue?
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Speaker 1: Where was the yellow? Where was the pink? Where was
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Speaker 1: the white? Like it didn't have the same effect as
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Speaker 1: the dot cake if I'm being picky. She only had
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Speaker 1: seven hours up her sleeve. She didn't have 14 hours.
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Speaker 1: So she had to be picky with the colors. even
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Speaker 1: think about making your own sprinkles. Like that never, ever
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Speaker 1: crossed my mind. I didn't even know it was a thing.
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is just Nara Smith to a T.
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Speaker 1: She is rage baiting and it works. She's got over
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Speaker 1: 2 million views on the video. I thought it was
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Speaker 1: a clever take on the dot cake. As someone whose
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Speaker 1: entire feed, as I mentioned last week, is full of them.
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Speaker 1: I welcome this type of content. I'm very excited because
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Speaker 1: you've lured me over to film at your house because
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Speaker 1: you said you've made some dot cakes. Yeah, well, I've
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Speaker 1: got one special dot cake for you to try, Kate.
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Speaker 1: Dale tasted them last night. Oh, don't tell me. Maybe
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Speaker 1: don't tell me your thoughts. Okay, I won't tell you.
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Speaker 1: So you have to go over to Kate and my
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Speaker 1: Instagram account. We will be sharing the review on there. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we're going to be sharing a little bit more behind
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Speaker 1: the scenes on our Instagram account. So make sure you
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Speaker 1: go check that out. Now I am known to be
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Speaker 1: the one that's picky about packet cakes and I'm a
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Speaker 1: baker myself. I love baking. I need to ask, have
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Speaker 1: you put these in the fridge? Well, I did put
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Speaker 1: the cake in the fridge because I made it last night.
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Speaker 1: I thought that's going to affect the taste. But the
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Speaker 1: thing is I did that because I want the sprinkles
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Speaker 1: to be, you know, it's extra hard. Everyone's been putting
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Speaker 1: their spoon across the top. So you'll be able to
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Speaker 1: do that. Being in the fridge wouldn't make a difference.
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Speaker 1: It'd be hard anyway, wouldn't it? No, it does.
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Speaker 4: For my whole life, I have thought that I just
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Speaker 4: had straight but frizzy hair.
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Speaker 1: Olivia Rogers has opened up for the first time about
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Speaker 1: the wildly intense and painful birth of her son, Albert.
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Speaker 1: The former Miss Universe contestant said it was far beyond
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Speaker 1: anything she could have imagined. Now, Kate, ahead of the birth,
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Speaker 1: Olivia told her followers she was going to try for
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Speaker 1: a vaginal birth. Yeah, so she said she wanted to
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Speaker 1: try for a vaginal delivery if she could and it
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Speaker 1: was the safest option. And she ended up going into
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Speaker 1: spontaneous labor at 39 weeks and one day. Now it
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Speaker 1: came as a complete surprise to her because the day
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Speaker 1: before she said she felt completely fine and no different
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Speaker 1: to how she had been feeling previously. She even texted
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Speaker 1: a friend saying, I don't think he's coming anytime soon.
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Speaker 1: Now the birth itself happened really quickly, so fast in fact,
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Speaker 1: that by the time she arrived at the birthing suite,
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Speaker 1: she was already fully dilated and there was no time
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Speaker 1: for pain relief this is my absolute nightmare. It actually
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Speaker 1: happened to one of my friends. And I was like,
15:09
Speaker 1: but how do you keep going through that? Like, I
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Speaker 1: don't understand. You always hear these nightmare stories about how
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Speaker 1: they were in labor for 24 hours and they'd only
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Speaker 1: dilated like a centimeter. It's rare to hear that someone
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Speaker 1: is fully dilated when they arrive at the hospital. Poor Olivia. Well,
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Speaker 1: my friends who went through the same thing, She said
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Speaker 1: that she didn't really realize her waters had broken and
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Speaker 1: she ended up doing a full clean of the house
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Speaker 1: before she left for the hospital. Look, I know C-sections
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Speaker 1: aren't for everybody, but stories like this make me feel
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Speaker 1: so confident in my decision to have locked in a
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Speaker 1: C-section with Harry, a planned one. Yeah. I mean, this
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Speaker 1: is sort of part of the reason why I also
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Speaker 1: did the same thing, but I was living in fear
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Speaker 1: in that last couple of weeks of pregnancy being like,
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Speaker 1: imagine if it just happened, like it came early. I know.
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Speaker 1: I kept asking the staff. I'm like, okay, so if
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Speaker 1: I arrive and I've, spontaneously gone into labor. Can I
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Speaker 1: still have the C-section? They're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just
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Speaker 1: don't drink anything. It's just considered an emergency one. Now,
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Speaker 1: if you can believe it, it's been two weeks since
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Speaker 1: Albert was born and Olivia provided an update saying it
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Speaker 1: has been the most beautiful, overwhelming, exhausting, love-filled time. What
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Speaker 1: a perfect way to summarize those first couple of weeks. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And she also said that motherhood has been harder than
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Speaker 1: she expected in some ways. but also more incredible than
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Speaker 1: she could have imagined. I can see why people who
16:27
Speaker 1: are yet to have children get so confused when people
16:30
Speaker 1: talk about motherhood. We talk about this on our Mums
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Speaker 1: Group podcast, but it's so funny the varying degrees of
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Speaker 1: both difficulty and joy that you feel at the time. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think the best way to summarise it is The
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Speaker 1: baby is amazing and incredible. It's the other things that
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Speaker 1: come along with it that aren't so nice. Yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 1: and it's all short-lived. I mean, it sounds like they've
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Speaker 1: been doing it pretty tough because Olivia's had tonsillitis. Hugo's
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Speaker 1: had a really bad cold as well. They've been having
16:58
Speaker 1: to wear masks around their son. That would be a nightmare. Fortunately,
17:03
Speaker 1: he hasn't got sick yet and touch wood, he remains
17:06
Speaker 1: that way. But can you imagine having tonsillitis and having
17:08
Speaker 1: to get up and feed a baby every three to
17:10
Speaker 1: four hours? It sounds like my absolute nightmare. fucking nightmare,
17:14
Speaker 1: to be honest. I need to add in, we were
17:17
Speaker 1: tossing up whether we thought that they were going to
17:18
Speaker 1: go with Albie or Bertie for the nickname. I said Albie.
17:22
Speaker 1: So you were right. They are calling Albert Albie, which
17:24
Speaker 1: makes a lot more sense. I mean, I can't imagine
17:26
Speaker 1: calling a newborn Albert all the time, can you? It's
17:28
Speaker 1: really interesting because in a Q & A, someone actually
17:30
Speaker 1: asked Olivia, would she ever move back to her hometown
17:33
Speaker 1: of Adelaide? And she said, never say never. But the
17:36
Speaker 1: plan is to stay in Melbourne as they really love it.
17:39
Speaker 1: I mean, this period would be really rough for Olivia
17:42
Speaker 1: and Hugo because Olivia, of course, as I said, her
17:44
Speaker 1: family's in Adelaide. Hugo's are in Perth. How difficult would
17:47
Speaker 1: that be? Oh, I can't imagine not having your parents around.
17:51
Speaker 1: Like it would be so tough. I mean, fortunately, Olivia's
17:54
Speaker 1: mum was there for the first week of Albie's life
17:56
Speaker 1: and she was helping out with laundry and meal prep
17:59
Speaker 1: and doing all of those things that mums do. I know,
18:02
Speaker 1: but when you think about it, like it's lovely, but
18:03
Speaker 1: a week, that's so quick. Yeah. Well, it's lucky because
18:07
Speaker 1: apparently Hugo's mum has recently purchased an apartment in Melbourne.
18:10
Speaker 1: So she is going to come over for regular visits,
18:13
Speaker 1: but it'll be interesting to see if they end up moving.
18:15
Speaker 1: Because also Olivia's got a sister here with, you know,
18:19
Speaker 1: nieces and nephews. You'd want all the cousins to be together,
18:22
Speaker 1: wouldn't you? I always find influencers' maternity leave situations really
18:26
Speaker 1: interesting because they are self-employed. And if they are to
18:29
Speaker 1: take time off work, then they're not earning money. But
18:32
Speaker 1: then you've also got the fear of losing your following
18:35
Speaker 1: and your engagement. And you know, the birth of a
18:37
Speaker 1: child is that peak time of engagement for an influencer.
18:40
Speaker 1: So people are wanting to hear from them. I think
18:43
Speaker 1: what's hard for a lot of influencers is that as
18:45
Speaker 1: soon as they have children, they're then typecast as a
18:48
Speaker 1: mummy blogger. I mean, Jade Tunchi spoke about it recently,
18:51
Speaker 1: how she no longer gets invited to fashion events. And
18:55
Speaker 1: that had really upset her. I mean, Olivia is in
18:58
Speaker 1: that similar space. She does a lot of fashion content.
19:01
Speaker 1: So it's going to be interesting to see how she evolves,
19:04
Speaker 1: whether she has to evolve. I mean, a lot of
19:06
Speaker 1: new mums will be drawn to her content, but she
19:09
Speaker 1: might put off other people who aren't in the same
19:11
Speaker 1: life stage as well. Yeah, it can be a really
19:13
Speaker 1: polarizing time. In terms of how Olivia has structured her
19:17
Speaker 1: personal brand and business, she actually told her followers in
19:21
Speaker 1: a Q & A that for the last couple of years,
19:23
Speaker 1: it's been set up as a company and So she
19:26
Speaker 1: pays herself a salary and she said that she's going
19:28
Speaker 1: to continue paying herself a salary while she's on leave.
19:32
Speaker 1: So it doesn't appear like she's going to have access
19:34
Speaker 1: to any of that government maternity leave. She admitted though,
19:38
Speaker 1: she doesn't have a plan for how long she'll actually
19:40
Speaker 1: take off and she's going to play it by ear
19:42
Speaker 1: and see how she and her baby are feeling. It
19:45
Speaker 1: was funny because a lot of people followed up saying, well,
19:48
Speaker 1: what is your business? And mainline of work? And she
19:51
Speaker 1: replied saying she finds it funny that she often gets
19:54
Speaker 1: asked this question on Instagram, which is actually her main
19:56
Speaker 1: source of income. She said social media and content creation
20:00
Speaker 1: has been her full-time job for the past eight years.
20:02
Speaker 1: I think it's that thing where people hope that someone's
20:05
Speaker 1: not earning their full-time income from what they sort of
20:08
Speaker 1: deem as an easy job And by continuously asking, they
20:13
Speaker 1: hope that the influencer might slip up and let on
20:15
Speaker 1: how much they're actually ill. I also think it's because
20:17
Speaker 1: Olivia for a number of years was working as a
20:20
Speaker 1: speech pathologist and she was juggling social media as well.
20:24
Speaker 1: And often when you followed someone who's had a full-time
20:26
Speaker 1: job like that, you get, you're like, wait a sec,
20:29
Speaker 1: so you're not doing that anymore? Yeah. And I suppose
20:31
Speaker 1: people look at Olivia and think, oh God, isn't speech
20:34
Speaker 1: pathology more important than influencing? Yeah. Sophie Keisha has revealed
20:39
Speaker 1: she wants a fourth baby. The PJ entrepreneur strategically made
20:44
Speaker 1: the admission on her business TikTok whilst promoting her latest
20:47
Speaker 1: range of PJs. It turns out though, it won't be
20:50
Speaker 1: happening for a while. Yeah, so originally Sophie and Maddie
20:53
Speaker 1: planned to get pregnant at the end of this year,
20:56
Speaker 1: but the recent proposal has thrown a spanner in the works.
20:59
Speaker 1: So they've now decided to put the plan on hold
21:02
Speaker 1: and focus on their upcoming wedding in And it makes
21:05
Speaker 1: sense that they want to focus on themselves as a
21:07
Speaker 1: couple and, you know, enjoy that special time because they
21:11
Speaker 1: literally got together when Sophie was pregnant. So she shocked
21:14
Speaker 1: her followers in June 2024 when she announced her pregnancy.
21:18
Speaker 1: And at the time she was yet to go public
21:20
Speaker 1: with her relationship with Maddie. Yeah. And it sounds like
21:23
Speaker 1: Sophie's decision in 2024 to have the baby was just
21:25
Speaker 1: for herself. She wasn't having this baby with Maddie. No,
21:29
Speaker 1: in fact, she said that she actually was sort of
21:31
Speaker 1: pushing Maddie away. She's like, oh, this is just going
21:34
Speaker 1: to be too tough. Like it's going to put a
21:35
Speaker 1: strain on our relationship. And at the time while Sophie
21:38
Speaker 1: said Maddie would be a part of the baby's life,
21:40
Speaker 1: she wouldn't be taking on the role of mum. That
21:43
Speaker 1: didn't last very long though. In March, Sophie revealed she
21:46
Speaker 1: actually changed her daughter Esme's last name to include Maddie's surname.
21:50
Speaker 1: and said, you know, Maddie is also her mum. Yeah.
21:52
Speaker 1: I can see why she said that originally, because she
21:54
Speaker 1: probably didn't want to put too much pressure on Maddie
21:57
Speaker 1: and also the relationship. It's so new. Reading between the lines,
22:01
Speaker 1: it seems like there's a chance that Maddie may actually
22:03
Speaker 1: carry this fourth baby rather than Sophie, because originally, as
22:08
Speaker 1: I said earlier, the plan was for Sophie to get
22:10
Speaker 1: pregnant at the end of this year. And that was
22:12
Speaker 1: based on the fact that Sophie's turning 36 this year.
22:15
Speaker 1: She said she doesn't really want to have another baby
22:18
Speaker 1: in her late thirties. However, They've now put that on
22:21
Speaker 1: hold for the wedding. And Sophie said what helped her
22:23
Speaker 1: change her mind was the fact that Maddie is 10
22:26
Speaker 1: years younger than her. So she's 25. So to me,
22:29
Speaker 1: this points to the fact that Maddie is probably likely
22:31
Speaker 1: to carry the next baby. Isn't she still playing AFLW? Yeah,
22:35
Speaker 1: but I mean, the season's not that long. I mean,
22:37
Speaker 1: lots of athletes come back from having babies. That would
22:40
Speaker 1: be incredible if you're in a lesbian relationship and you
22:43
Speaker 1: could just say, look, babe, this is your turn. I've
22:45
Speaker 1: had my turn. Yeah. That would be great. It'd be
22:48
Speaker 1: so much easier. Yeah. And wouldn't it be so weird
22:52
Speaker 1: for Sophie who's gone through three pregnancies now to be
22:56
Speaker 1: on the other side of it? I mean, she would
22:57
Speaker 1: be able to relate so well to the situation. Well,
23:01
Speaker 1: Sophie's yet to confirm whether this is going to be
23:03
Speaker 1: the case, but someone wrote underneath her TikTok, does this
23:06
Speaker 1: mean Maddie will carry baby number four? Enjoy your time
23:09
Speaker 1: together and the wedding. And Sophie simply replied with two
23:12
Speaker 1: black love hearts. I take that as a yes. Well,
23:16
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