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Young Eagles Defense Showing Chops At Training Camp · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: Inside the Birds is back.
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Speaker 2: What's going on? Everybody?
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Speaker 1: It's Jeff Mosher Andrew de Checko here for Inside the Birds.
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Adam Kapen will be back with us on the next one.
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But Andrew, since we last did since Inside the Birds
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podcast last drop, there have been two Eagles camp practices.
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The first one happened in pads and then on Thursday
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that was a yellow practice.
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Speaker 2: Correct, that was a ninety minute or.
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Speaker 3: Yellow practice and it ran about an hour, twenty hour,
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twenty two something like that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was and I was probably covered in
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sweat just two minutes into the hour and twenty minute sessions.
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Speaker 3: So listen, I'm want to seeing one it was ninety degrees,
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but I was talking to another reporter and the real
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feel was one oh three, so you could argue that
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it was even hotter out there than it was on Tuesday. Yeah,
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but I mean, once one, if it's hot, it's hot.
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Speaker 2: There's uh So let's recap.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna go through offensive defense some of the things
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that I stood out to both of us that are
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worth discussing, and then but I want to start off
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really just with taking inventory on the injury situation. Some
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of them are minor. Some of them may not be minor.
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You know, the Eagles don't exactly volunteer who's out for what.
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But the practice. I think Zach Bone has now missed
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two practices with a back. And it started off with
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back contusion and then it was just back the after
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Thursday's practice. So you wonder did they just run out
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of space when they're typing out or is it? Is
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it not now just regular back, Just like with DeVante Smith,
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it went from back stiffness to back.
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Speaker 3: So either way, this general back sore, as I guess.
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And then so Nolan Smith missed two in a row
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with the concussion.
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Speaker 1: Too, right, right, do you remember the play that he
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got hit on. I think you were describing it to me.
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Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't I don't remember.
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Speaker 2: You just remember seeing you.
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Speaker 1: He looked like a little bit off at one point, right, yeah, yeah,
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all right, So either way, uh slight concern with Bond.
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I always get concerned with back injuries for anybody. You
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saw what happened to Cam Jurgens by the end of
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last year. We're only in training camp. Davante Smith always
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seems to have like a knee or an ankle or
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but he always seems to be okay, so I'm not
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like hugely concerned, but you hate to hear about receivers
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that have back injuries too.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Eagles are really lighting numbers at wide
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receiver Jeff Terras Marshall. That's a new addition to the
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injury list. He has the knee he looked like at
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the end of a running play during team period. He
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was hurt two practices ago, and then he was spotted
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on the sideline. But it's not the lineup. Danny Gray
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is no longer there. Davante's out, so that there are
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a little light on numbers there. They signed if Aodai
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out of sam Houston State, who spent some time with
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the in the spring.
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Speaker 4: Just to add another body for reps.
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Speaker 1: So yep, yep, much needed. So I'm glad you mentioned
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that because I would have forgotten. We've spent a lot
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of time this offseason talking about the idea of Danny
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Gray making the fifty three his four to three speed,
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which really you don't see a lot of on the
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Eagles receiving corps. Then he got hurt, So describe how
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he got hurt first, right, you remember seeing it, right?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: He collided with Drew mccuba. I believe it was a
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crossing pattern. It was Saturday's practice and both players were
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dinged up. Danny Gray had the finger and Macouba has
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the shoulder. That still kept him out. Unfortunately, if you're
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on the.
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Speaker 4: Bubble and you're not able to practice and you're already
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light on.
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Speaker 3: Numbers, it's a matter of math. They have to make
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room and they need to be able to have bodies
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to practice. So Danny it was a casualty, and he's
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been nicked up with the Niners as well. It's kind
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of been his story. I don't believe it's about the
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ability he has speed. He has flat on occasions, but
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when you're on the bubble, they can't really afford to
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keep you around if you're not going to be out there.
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Speaker 1: Right, and he must it must have been a case
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where they thought he wasn't going to be back soon
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enough to really compete.
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Speaker 2: He would. He went on waivers. I believe he went unclaimed.
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Speaker 1: So if the Eagles want to bring him back, they'll
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be able to. But for now, it's sort of like
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the dream is over, right, because we put a lot
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of time and effort in talking about what could be uh,
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And obviously the injury, as you mentioned, that's kind of
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bit him in the in the rear end for his
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career now and unfortunately that kind of derailed the latest one.
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So we'll we'll check back and see if the Eagles
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wind up bringing him back in some capacity. But obviously
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it was a it was a collision that left him
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with that. And then Macouba has not been back with
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that shoulder yet and he's missing some valuable reps as well.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he is, and Nick Sirianni talked about having to
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get creative and how he gets mccuba up to speed
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if he's not on the field, and that's walkthroughs, that's
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film study and mental reps. Of course, Vic van Joe
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really co signed that and echoed the same sentiment. But
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I still don't believe that you should sound any sort
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of an alarm. It's an injury that we don't quite
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know what the timeline is. Obviously, it's not ideal for
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a rookie to be missing time. But I saw mccooper
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working off to the side during practice today with a
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trainer when I was watching the offensive lineman and the
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defensive lineman, And if you watch him moving around after
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practice like he had a trey a Rita's water ice
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and he.
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Speaker 4: Was moving around.
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Speaker 3: So I don't know that it's a cause for concern
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at this time, but we'll have to obviously monitor it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, it'd be good to see him get back
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on soon, and certainly before the first preseason game. E. J.
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Speaker 1: Jenkins tight end is out with a hamstring, and those
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are it for the guys who are out limited. Johad
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Campbell continues to be listed as limited by the team,
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but continues to be out there pretty much a lot.
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Jialen Carter also limited it but and now he played
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I think on the first team today, probably more so
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than he has before.
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Speaker 3: So I think that was his first time getting eleven
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on eleven work since coming back from the shoulder.
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Speaker 2: See.
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Speaker 1: I thought he had been in there on the last
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time I was there Monday, but I could be wrong.
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Speaker 4: Sometimes he might have.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So for people who don't get a chance to
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go see camp, a lot of times in camp, guys
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will do the half jersey thing.
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Speaker 2: They'll roll up their jersey halfway.
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Speaker 1: So ninety six could look like ninety eight, could look
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like ninety nine. Ninety eight looks like ninety nine if
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you're only seeing the upper half of a number. So
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it is very difficult at times, especially in the trenches,
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to figure out who's who, especially when guys.
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Speaker 2: Are running in and running out.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, Dylan Carter was there with the first team,
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so that's a good sign. And Shoulders is fine. He's
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good again. Aj Dillon was considered limited. I thought he'd
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got a decent amount of work. On Thursday we watched
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him get some carries. But you do notice that guys
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like Montreal Johnston and Seun Derek Powell are also getting
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will Shipley.
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Speaker 2: Of course we're all also getting run in there too.
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We're doing I think Andrew.
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Speaker 1: The big thing is it's back and again that's not great,
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but it's not neck so that's that's good.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And at this point the summer, you don't want
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to rush somebody back from anything or have them play
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through it in a in a large capacity. I mean,
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we're we're we're always getting into August, so you don't
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want to you don't want to rush anything. But I
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thought Montreal Johnson Junior, you never want to get too
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carried away. But there's been moments through the six practices
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that he's caught my attention and accelerates.
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Speaker 4: Through the line.
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Speaker 3: The vision, good contact balance, and I think he can
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give you potentially some jews as a kick returner.
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Speaker 4: So he's a guy that I have highlighted for the preseason.
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And SHANDRK.
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Speaker 3: Powell today he had a couple of nice runs and
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had a couple of touchdowns.
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Speaker 4: The I guess it was Tuesday's practice.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, hey man, you're getting to the good stuff. I'm
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trying to get through these injuries. Oh yeah, it's okay,
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I'm just kidding. I'm kidding, but that is good. I
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also thought Johnson, since we're talking about.
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Speaker 2: It, he has some cut jump.
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Speaker 1: Cuts, which yeah, is pretty good, so especially if you're
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gonna play in his own based system.
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Speaker 2: So I like that saw that out of him.
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Speaker 1: And I think with the offensive line Andrew that you
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know Jurgens is listed as limited. He's clearly on a
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pitch count because there are times we saw Brett Toth
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again at center, which I don't know how much longer
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we're gonna have to see that. But also I noticed
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Lane later in the practice on Thursday, Lane came out
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was replaced by Matt Pryor. On the first team, Dickerson
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was replaced by Toath, while while Jurgens was at center, Dickerson,
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Toath was at left guard. So it looks like they
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were given maintenance to a lot of the veterans on
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the offensive line.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I think Kendall even got a little work at guard
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as well. Yes, yeah, yeah, they were doing a little
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mixing and matching.
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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
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Speaker 1: We'll talk about it later because it folds in with
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another point. But Ben van Sumer and left practice. He
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kind of limped off the field on a play. Now
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that one's kind of worth watching because I don't think
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he came back in and the way he was limping,
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uh didn't look really. I'm not saying you torror or
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anything like that. I just think that that's the kind
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of thing that he might take a few days. I
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don't know, he could be back tomorrow, who knows. But
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he definitely limped off the field and I did not
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see him re enter, did you.
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Speaker 5: No?
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Speaker 4: He did not.
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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so he didn't re enter.
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Speaker 4: But it does it speaks to a larger point that
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I'm sure you and I are going to get to.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple of points actually, so remind me formationally
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and then also what put him out of the game. Well, actually,
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let's start with defense, all right, and the thing that
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jumped out of me at defense today, And this is
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where Van sumer And folds in is And I'm trying,
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I think we're all trying to make sure we don't
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fall into our trap of putting too much into training camp.
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So nothing I observe means that these guys are infallible
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or if they have to play a lot, that an
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opponent can't scheme around their weaknesses and exploit them. But
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for what you're looking for now, baseline athleticism, instincts, knowledge
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strengths like that, I think you gotta be really pleasantly
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happy with Jahad Campbell, Smilemonden, and Jeremiah Trotter.
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Speaker 2: Not just in the Thursday practice but throughout camp.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think these guys, especially for a long
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time Eagles writer like me who has seen probably the
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bottom of the barrel at.
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Speaker 2: That position, I think we've talked about it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the athleticism and the instincts alone, maybe
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not with Trotter, who's more less have an athlete but
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more of an understanding the position just just show a
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lot of they all seem to know what they're doing
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pretty well.
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Speaker 2: Is that fair?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is fair, and it's a noticeable difference compared
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to years past. But I think this collection of players, Jeff,
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they all bring something different to the table. They all
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have a different type of skill set. And we're not
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even including to Kobe Dean yet. Obviously he's on the
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pup list, but he's another player that when you look
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at some of this op finality that some of these
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players provide, there's there's a there's a chance you can
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get multiple of these guys on the field at once,
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but there's you have a young player like Campbell who's
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ahead of schedule.
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Speaker 4: Mond and Junior I thought had a really active day Trotter.
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Speaker 3: Junior has been one of the shining stars at training
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camp through six practices, and of course Zach Bond being
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the All pro that he is. Obviously he's not practicing currently,
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but they have a really good balance there of talent.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I spoke to someone who who will remain nameless here,
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but this person said, Bobby king Man, he's doing a
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great job, and you know what, he's sort of like
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the Wizard of Oz. Nobody talks about the inside linebackers coach.
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You wrote a great story about him last year during
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the Super Bowl. But no matter how much pubby he
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might get here and there, people are not going to
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associate the success with Bobby King, but they probably should
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because he's doing an excellent job. I know you have
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talked with him specifically about his emphasis on block destruction,
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which frees us to why Ben Van Sumern was limping
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off the field because Jahad Campbell and he might get
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a little talking to because he's probably been a little
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overly physical in camp. Dallas Goddard talked about it too, Jihad,
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was it Campbell? Yeah, Campbell's the one who kind of
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lit him up? Yeah, yeah, yeah, lit him up. And
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remember they're not in pads on Thursday. You lit them up,
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and listen. You like to see the aggression, you'd like
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to see the violence. I'm sure the coaches inside are like,
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all right, I like that, But you also got to.
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Speaker 2: Keep guys healthy. So I think Campbell's doing a nice job.
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Speaker 1: But I think you wrote this in your observations on
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Inside the Birds dot com.
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Speaker 2: It's probably gonna have to dial down a little bit.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it says a lot if you're knocking someone
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like Van Sumer into the ground. Van Soomer is a
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very physical player. But this is now a series of
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events because it was trying to punch the ball out
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from Tanner McKee and on one practice and tackling Dallas
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Goddard on a crossing route. Then today he brought down
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Keelan Robinson after a run. Now these aren't hard hits,
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but he's taken players down to the ground. But the
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big one, of course, is the one that you outlined
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Jeff with Van Sumer and he didn't return to practice.
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We'll obviously have to wait and see what transpires, but
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he does need to ratchet it down a notch or.
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Speaker 4: Two because he can't do that. You can't injure your
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own teammates.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, at some point, and I would put my money
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on Landon Dickerson, someone, some big offensive lineman is going
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to go up to him and knock him, knock his
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some sense into him.
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Speaker 2: Or try to start out one of those relays. Or yeah,
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Blaine would be number two. It was either him or Lane.
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Yeah that I could see see doing that, or.
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Speaker 1: I could I could see my lot, who's become a
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real leader of this, at least getting in his face
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and telling him to cut that, you know.
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Speaker 2: What out before he got really physical with him. But
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you never know.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, he's got to tone it down and we'll
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see because you Van sumer In, we'll talk about this
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on offense. I observed them today on Thursday playing a
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ton of twelve personnel. Twenty two personnel. They are really
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I thought there was more of that than eleven personnel. Now,
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granted they're a little banged up, right. You mentioned this,
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No DeVante Smith, no Terrass Marshall, so that might have
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been a too. But you know, Van Sumerin is going
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to be a part of their package if he makes
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the team and they use the fullback. So got to
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keep that guy guy healthy, especially with him coming off
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the knee injury.
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Speaker 4: He's also a core special teamer.
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Speaker 3: You never know if you go light it at tight end,
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you keep two let's say, Van sumer And offers some
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optionality there as well, really good pass catcher, so he
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does have a little bit more of a larger role
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than just a handful of plays as a fullback he
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can has he provides added value elsewhere.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, Mandan made a similar play in that it
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looked like Steen was wrapping around like a poll and
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Mandan came around and look, he didn't put him out
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the way Nolan Smith put out, you know, Trey Smith
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or Elgton Jenkins. But he drove him back and that
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was a thought. And Mandan is a guy that we've
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talked about with good speed, good athleticism. I thought there
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was an example of a way a linebacker can use
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can turned speed to power where it's not exactly a
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pass rush but a block destruction in a play, And
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that was a really impressive play from London.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he plays with a lot of physicality, Jeff.
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Speaker 3: I've noticed him whenever he's attacking the line of scrimmage
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or even just in pursuit of the football.
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Speaker 4: There's urgency.
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Speaker 3: Now, he did not shine, particularly the other day when
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the running backs were in past pro versus linebackers. I
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thought he lost more than he won in terms of that.
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And he's a slighter build, but he is a sharp
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and stinctual player and plays bigger than his size.
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Speaker 4: He's about six two two twenty four.
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Speaker 3: But I think that when you when you look at
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what he's been able to do thus far, you have
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to be pretty plead if you're the Eagles.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we've talked about this and written about this.
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Speaker 1: Trotter has had a really good camp as far as
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knowing where to be, the instincts, the playmaking. I mean,
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he's just really really He reminds me more and more
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as I watch him of TJ. Edwards in that he's
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not gonna blow anybody away with the testing, but he
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will blow every buddy away with his just ability to
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be in the right place at the right time.
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Speaker 2: And it's hard.
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard to make a big play against
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him unless he is just out sped by like a
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crossing route or something, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: Like, he will always be in the.
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Speaker 1: Right space at the right time, and that, to me,
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it was TJ Edwards to a t so.
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Speaker 3: Edwards obviously was a little bit bigger, but I think
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Trotter is actually more instinctual. And I agree he always
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seems to know where the where the football is going.
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Their ability to read and diagnose, to play recognition, these
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are all harrmarks of his game, and all of those
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qualities are typically what Dick Fangio looks for in off
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ball linebackers.
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Speaker 1: Right, Definitely, let's let's go to the front line. I'll
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ask I'll start with you. A couple of things caught
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my attention. Anything from the front four, the interior line.
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Speaker 2: Especially.
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Speaker 3: The defensive line. Yeah, Jordan Davis. I thought Jordan Davis
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had some depression today. He's not getting home. He was
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forcing quarterbacks off their spot, flushing them, and there was
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a couple of hasty throws from a number of different
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quarterbacks because of Jordan Davis. He may have even had
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the final rush of practice. I believe he did. But
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if he's able to continue to do that, I think
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the Eagles will take that all day, and they're certainly
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banking on him taking that next step. Moro Ojomo jeff
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has also been another player that last summer, I thought
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that there wasn't a practice that went by that he
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wasn't affecting a play or a series in some way
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with his physicality and violence, and you're seeing it manifest
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again for another summer. He's winning whatever his matchups are, quickness, leverage,
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all those good things, and I do believe that he
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Both players there's a lot riding on them, but I
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think Jomo's going to really take this lead forward in
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year three.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I like the way He's so differently built than Milton Williams,
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who I think was like stockier and more compact, where
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Moro is a little more slender and has the longer arms,
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but he really uses those hands in those arms to
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his advantage.
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Speaker 2: He's got quick feet. Yeah, I'm really I'm excited to
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see his development, see where it goes.
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Speaker 1: And then you know, the the thing I always do
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to check myself is then I'm excited to see when
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the league sort of notices, how do they counteract them?
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What does he do to counteract that? Which is always
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sometime you know. Five six games into into the season,
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I had Jordan Davis and Jaylex Hunt as sort of
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a sandwich sack on that last right right.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I wasn't sure if Jordan provided it, like the initial
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pressure or was the clean up guy, but they were
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both right around.
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Speaker 4: I think it was Jordan that that provided the initial pressure.
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Speaker 3: And how about josh Ushe there is a handful of
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plays today that I thought that he really acquitted himself well,
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particularly I mean there was this Dallas Godd blocking him, granted,
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but he you know, shed the block he got around
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the edge, forced Jalen Hurts to throw an ill fated
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pass down the sideline to Johan Dotson that fell in completely.
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It's a small play here or there, but I think
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that he's outperformed to this point as he's Ojelari.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, that's an interesting point because it made
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me think of last year. We probably hadn't reached that
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time yet at this time.
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Speaker 1: We're only a week in, but maybe, you know, five
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or six days from now. Last year, I think we
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were all starting to wonder when Bryce Huff was going
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to show up, right and starting to feel that way
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a little bit about o Jelari right now.
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Speaker 2: I know it's in him. I know he's a good.
19:28
Speaker 1: Pass rusher, and I'm not gonna like sit here and
19:30
say this guy lost at all or training camp, is
19:32
indiccative of anything. But just like the way Jaelex Hunt
19:35
last year seemed to be the only guy consistently showing
19:39
up as an edge rusher, especially as he started to
19:42
get more and more reps with the second team third team,
19:45
I feel like we're saying that.
19:47
Speaker 2: About Ouce, you know, but not as much about O'jelari.
19:51
Speaker 1: Nolan Smith has been out, Hunt's been fine, but really
19:54
there's only one guy to me standing out so as
19:58
far as consistent pressure generation, then that would be.
20:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, definitely, And and Vic Fangio pretty much said
20:05
as much that no one's really surfaced one way or
20:08
the other behind Nolan Smith and Jayoaks Hunt. It seems
20:12
like if is able to keep stacking days like that
20:14
productive days, he might be one that emerges. Because he's
20:18
outperformed Ja Lari to this point, there's obviously still a
20:22
ways to go.
20:23
Speaker 2: Yeah.
20:23
Speaker 1: Now, as for Davis, I just think we need to
20:25
see this for a couple of practices in a row.
20:27
He has this habit of flashing and then not flashing flashing,
20:30
but it was good to see that he got some pressures.
20:32
Didn't didn't play as high as he was the day
20:34
I was there on Monday. I thought he played high
20:36
maybe one day or Tuesday. I lose track, So I
20:39
would like to see a little bit more development there
20:41
from him. I also thought Gabe Hall showed a little
20:44
pocket push yeah, a couple of times today. He's an
20:47
interesting guy. He's sort of quietly having a nice camp.
20:50
Speaker 3: He yes, And actually I wrote down there was a
20:53
couple of plays where I thought he was disruptive, but
20:56
then there was another other plays where I thought he
20:58
got a little high his pad level was, and he's
21:01
a longer guy, he's about six five ninety five, but
21:04
he's gonna have to use try and get lower a
21:07
little bit just for leverage purposes.
21:09
Speaker 4: But yeah, you're right. Largely today, I thought that he
21:12
had a solid showing.
21:14
Speaker 1: All right, let's move to the secondary man. Was there
21:17
any reason for Vic Fangio to just crap all over
21:19
a Dori.
21:20
Speaker 2: Jackson the other day?
21:23
Speaker 1: I laugh, and I mean he I thought, I think
21:25
Odori's actually been okay in camp. Nothing has jumped out
21:28
of me. But you know, paraphrasing, he basically said, look,
21:31
I didn't even sign this guy. I didn't even like
21:34
watch tape of him, how he wanted him, how he
21:36
signed him. He was invisible for the first few days
21:39
of camp because the ball didn't come his way, and
21:41
yet he still runs with the first team. So I
21:43
do think Vic was trying to say, I need to
21:45
see more of the ball coming his way to get
21:47
some some job, and that's why he's probably been on
21:49
the first team more so than than Killie Ringo. But
21:53
it's certainly I don't know. I'm sure you made the
21:56
same sort of like weird face when he was just
22:00
unnecessarily killing adri Jackson.
22:03
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's interesting. I mean, the day before that,
22:06
Adoori had a solid day. Yeah, he had a nice
22:08
pass breakup. And I don't think he's had a flashy camp,
22:13
but I think he's made some plays here or there
22:15
when the balls come as well.
22:16
Speaker 4: He's also given up some as well. But today he rolls.
22:20
Speaker 3: Out there with the first team and I think, Vic,
22:23
if you're trying to decode what he's tried to say there,
22:26
it's probably that he just needs to see more right
22:29
and he needs to see more of the ball coming
22:32
his way, see how he reacts to it, the ball skills,
22:34
the instincts. On the other hand, Keithy Ringo had a
22:37
couple of nice pass breakups today. One was an underthrown
22:40
pass down the sideline to Darius Cooper. The rookie wide
22:43
receiver Tanner McKee under threw it. Ringo should have picked it,
22:46
but it was a pass breakup. He also had a
22:48
nice one in the end zone to Johnny Wilson on
22:51
another McKee pass. Johnny Wilson has not played to his size,
22:54
but that was a nice breakup for Ringo.
22:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah.
22:59
Speaker 1: By the way, the really strange comment was we need
23:02
to find about from Vic about Ader, we need to
23:05
find out who he is or who he is is. Now,
23:08
how many times do you hear that about a guy
23:10
who's already played eight years in the end, this is
23:13
his ninth year and he's almost thirty. He'll be thirty
23:15
next month, no, no, September, so in about six weeks. Very
23:19
rarely do you hear about a thirty year old corner
23:21
that someone hasn't figured out who he is or is
23:24
not yet. That's that's fascinating to me.
23:28
Speaker 3: But it made sense to me, though, Jeff, because whenever
23:33
I think of Adori Jackson, prior to him arriving at
23:36
the Eagles and seeing him play, he was always sort
23:39
of an enigma, a polarizing player because he was a
23:42
first round pick. I've seen him play well with the
23:45
Titans before, I've seen him have some some stretches where
23:47
he wasn't very productive. So I guess Vick's trying to say,
23:50
we need to find out more about this guy or
23:53
maybe this is who he is.
23:55
Speaker 2: Yeah.
23:55
Speaker 1: No, that's that's a really good point, an excellent point,
23:58
and I tend to well, we'll see how things go.
24:01
Speaker 2: But I tend to think that this competition between.
24:03
Speaker 1: Him and Killy Ringo is going to continue to be
24:09
like back and forth for a little bit here. It's
24:11
not gonna be like last year, where I don't know,
24:13
we're just a couple of days away from when Rogers
24:16
just completely.
24:16
Speaker 2: Took the job and ran with it.
24:18
Speaker 1: I have a feeling that they're gonna it's a better competition,
24:21
first of all, I think, and I think Vic is
24:25
gonna have to see this one through for a little
24:27
bit longer, including some preseason games. So that's what the
24:32
secondary there. Well, there was somebody else I wanted to
24:35
bring up. Oh yeah, we should talk about Mac McWilliams
24:38
because he had a really nice pass breakup in the
24:40
end zone on Kylan Grantson and that was actually which
24:44
we'll get into. Also, McKee makes a really nice I
24:47
mean McKee is flushed out of the pocket, keeps his
24:50
eyes down.
24:51
Speaker 2: The field, throws it in a.
24:52
Speaker 1: Place where he probably thought only Granson could get it,
24:55
and it wasn't intercepted, so it was still a good throw.
24:57
Speaker 2: But McWilliams batted it down.
25:00
Speaker 1: He stay tight, batted it down, and I feel like
25:03
he's had good practices.
25:05
Speaker 2: He's working at inside and outside.
25:07
Speaker 1: Vic spoke much, you know, like nicer about him, saying
25:11
like we're really seeing what he's got and he could be.
25:14
Speaker 2: One of those guys Like I.
25:15
Speaker 1: Part of me wonders if Vick is really I want
25:18
to see if he makes his way to like second
25:20
team Nickel gets mixed in with the first teamers, because
25:24
part of me does wonder if Vic wants sees enough
25:27
of him at Nickel, if he feels more comfortable then
25:30
with the gene, playing more safe through or more outside corner. Really,
25:35
I don't think they want to move the gene out
25:37
of Nickel completely, being like when maybe more like as
25:41
a dime or then in certain situations when you're gonna
25:44
move the gene.
25:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the faster he progresses, the more optionality
25:48
he gives Vic Vangao potentially. And what I've noticed from him, Jeff,
25:51
is he breaks on the ball suddenly and with good
25:55
quickness and anticipation. He makes up for his lack of
25:58
size with with hide. Just think football acumen. And that's
26:01
something that's really inherent and that really stood out to
26:05
me when I saw him play at UCF. It shined
26:08
through six practices here and that pass breakup. I totally
26:12
forgot about the one to Grantson, but I was thinking
26:14
about the one to Johnny Wilson a couple of days
26:16
ago that he had. I think he had another breakup
26:18
during Team Joe that wasn't maybe it was earlier in practice.
26:22
But as an aside, it feels like Grantson gets targeted
26:27
a lot more than Harris and Bryant.
26:31
Speaker 2: Yes, it does seem that way. Harrison.
26:33
Speaker 1: I don't want to say he's been invisible, but I
26:36
just haven't noticed him doing anything all that in particular
26:39
as opposed to Grantson, who dropped a touchdown in the
26:41
last practice that we were at. But at least he
26:44
was open and had his hands on the ball and
26:46
then came back and made some catches today.
26:48
Speaker 4: You're by the way you mentioned Mac Williams.
26:52
Speaker 3: I probably should also mention Eli Rix, who had an
26:55
interception today on a pass that Jay when Hurt sailed.
26:58
It was a Texas route Akwon Barkley. He secured the interception.
27:02
It was a red zone situational drill. They were doing
27:04
the two minute end of game scenario and Eli was
27:08
actually working with the first team at that instance.
27:11
Speaker 4: Right, nice play.
27:12
Speaker 3: He's had some nice reps against one on one during
27:14
doing one on ones and also team period. He's quietly
27:18
put together a nice start to training camp and you
27:21
see the length and it just seems like he's playing
27:23
a lot faster than he has over the past couple
27:25
of years.
27:26
Speaker 2: It does, It does.
27:28
Speaker 1: He'll be another one that's sort of I mean, he's
27:30
competing to be a top backup or one of the
27:31
first two backups.
27:32
Speaker 2: He's a good special teamer, right.
27:35
Speaker 3: Well, here's the interesting thing, Jeff, because he only played
27:37
in seven games last year, he played fourteen defensive steps
27:40
and only fifty one on special teams, but they kept
27:42
him on the roster.
27:43
Speaker 4: I don't think special team is necessarily his forte.
27:46
Speaker 3: He's like a leaner build, and I'm not so sure
27:49
that him running down the field and getting mixing it
27:51
up and getting physical is his thing. He's more of
27:53
a He's a young cover corner with good length and
27:56
they come at a premium today's NFL.
27:58
Speaker 4: So that's kind of the way that I view.
28:00
Speaker 3: I am of the belief that they're intrigued with what
28:02
they have there and that's why they kept him on
28:04
the roster.
28:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you.
28:06
Speaker 1: He'll be interesting to watch and I think, listen, the
28:10
way to put a bow on this is that I
28:11
know there's a lot of concern about the secondary and
28:14
but there's there's some guys here.
28:16
Speaker 2: Who are holding their own playing well.
28:18
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean anything as far as the regular season,
28:22
but they have got optionality here. I mean, they certainly
28:24
will have some guys and even if you know, like
28:27
a guy like Rix, like if he makes a team,
28:28
he's been on the team for two years, he's been
28:30
in this system. Now this is year two. He's been
28:34
on the team for three years. This is his second
28:35
year of this system. So you'll get guys who are
28:37
at least comfortable. They'll know what their responsibilities are, they
28:40
know what their roles are. You see that kind of continuity,
28:43
and that's a good thing. And not to mention, you know,
28:46
Mitchell the Gene are really high end players who are
28:49
having Mitchell and Mitchell more so than the Jean. But
28:53
Mitchell is having a really, really good camp. I think
28:56
from what I've seen so far, they'll figure it out.
28:59
With safety. I just you know, we already talked about
29:01
the inside linebackers. We know the line is going to
29:04
have its guys. I think people can think that, yes,
29:07
this defense might take a little bit of a step back,
29:09
but I don't see it being like a hemorrhage or
29:12
anything like that.
29:12
Speaker 2: I think that there's some good young talent here.
29:16
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the whole point.
29:17
Speaker 3: It was an off season season of maintenance to ensure
29:20
that they have that young nucleus intact and then really
29:22
build around that.
29:23
Speaker 4: They have a lot of intriguing young pieces.
29:25
Speaker 3: Now the question now becomes how quickly can they all
29:28
blend together and absorb that the defense, because it is
29:32
kind of complex depending on what position you play, let's
29:35
say safety or linebacker. But from what we have to
29:37
go off of right now, it seems like they have
29:39
a lot of different components that I think can can
29:42
fit into this puzzle.
29:44
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Speaker 1: So as we transition to offense, I want to make
30:21
a big picture observation that I think I talked about
30:23
this with you on the sideline. I've noticed a lot
30:27
of motion from Kevin Patulo. I feel like there's been
30:31
motion on at least sixty percent of the plays that
30:33
I've seen. It's not Shanahan style motion where you've got
30:38
two guys motioning, one guy shifting play action off of it.
30:43
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that at all.
30:44
Speaker 1: This is more of your traditional West Coast style of motion,
30:48
but it's involved the tight ends a lot. Sometimes you
30:51
see slot receivers motioning a time, but I've seen a
30:54
lot of tight end motion. In fact, there was a
30:56
play where god Ter started off in the right slot
31:00
motion to the left, then ran a corner from the
31:02
left and Hurts hit him really beautifully along the left side.
31:06
And I just keep making I've been really paying attention
31:08
to this when I'm there, making notes on when I
31:11
see motion out of what personnel groupings. And it's again
31:15
it's because someone asked me on Twitter, you know what's
31:19
Kevin Patula doing from a motion standpoint, and I said,
31:22
it looks like to me, he's using quite a bit
31:24
of it, I said, but not Shanahan style. And then
31:27
someone responded, why would you use Shanahan as an example
31:30
instead of Kellen Moore?
31:31
Speaker 2: And I said, I.
31:33
Speaker 1: Didn't respond, but my thinking is, well, Kellen Moore didn't
31:36
really do last year with the Eagles what he did
31:40
in previous He adjusted to the personnel. He used motion,
31:44
but it was here and there spriad it compared to
31:46
how he had used it in the past.
31:49
Speaker 2: And I'm not talking about percentages.
31:51
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about how many moving parts there are
31:53
at one time.
31:55
Speaker 2: But here again, you're seeing it more. And then I think,
31:58
you know what you will ship.
32:00
Speaker 1: We took a nice little jet sweep off motion upright
32:04
up the right sideline. So I think it's fair to
32:07
say Kevin Patulo is doing some things that we didn't
32:09
know he would do.
32:10
Speaker 3: Here, Yeah, exactly, And I smith I think on occasion
32:13
has as well. Like I've wrote down, I wrote that
32:16
down today, there's some new wrinkles, and that's to be expected.
32:20
I believe Adam was telling us that he believed it's
32:23
going to be largely a West Coast offense, So that's
32:26
what I'm expecting to see.
32:27
Speaker 4: But there is going to be a little bit of flair.
32:29
We've seen some of that.
32:30
Speaker 3: But again we go back to sometimes whatever you see
32:33
in training camp isn't always indicative of what you're going
32:35
to see in the regular season because we we just
32:38
go back.
32:38
Speaker 4: To the past receiving.
32:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, the running backs and the midfield usage with Dallas
32:45
Godder last year as well. We hadn't really seen that
32:48
translate over into the regular season. But I mean, you
32:51
have to like what you've seen thus far because there
32:54
is some fresh concepts in there.
32:56
Speaker 1: It's a great point, like you know, I'm saying, like
32:58
I'm seeing all this motion and and maybe Kevin Botulo
33:01
after each practice with the offensive staff is saying, look
33:03
at all this motion we ran and didn't really get
33:06
what we wanted. You know, it's not you know, we'll
33:08
keep doing it because we need to do it, but
33:10
it may be something they run a lot and then
33:11
determine that it's really not helping them the way they
33:14
did So that's another way where what you see in
33:17
training camp doesn't always mean, you know, it's an evaluation thing.
33:20
It doesn't always mean it's going to happen when the
33:23
regular season starts. But I do think with a guy
33:26
like an Ia Smith and a guy like Shipley and
33:27
a guy like Avery Williams, if he winds up making
33:30
it and then you're these flex tight ends, Goddard Grantson, whatever,
33:35
you probably have the opportunity to use.
33:37
Speaker 2: It more to your ad to your advantage if you
33:40
wanted to.
33:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's interesting, you may Grantson would be a
33:45
great fit for that, because I mean I talked to
33:48
him the other day all the different things that he's done,
33:50
h back out of the backfield, motion out wide, like,
33:54
he can do a lot of different things. So if
33:57
you're trying to implement that, that would be another puzzle piece.
34:00
He talked about a three Williams and a Nia Smith
34:03
and some of those guys, Kylin Grantson would be a
34:06
nice fit as well.
34:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wrote that one of the first plays I
34:09
wrote down my notebook Grantson. It was twelve personnel and
34:11
Grantson lined up on the left side off set like
34:14
behind ye think got her and he motioned out of
34:17
it to the right. So I'm like, ah, so they're
34:19
actually using him like an h back there.
34:21
Speaker 2: That was pretty interesting. So that's good stuff. It's just
34:24
good to like keeping an eye on. Let's talk about quarterbacks.
34:28
Speaker 1: I mean the Hurts interception, as you mentioned, it was
34:31
just he said, it's funny he Barkley ran a Texas
34:35
route and Goddard sort of ran like a shallow dig
34:39
behind it. Yeah, he put his hand up and I
34:43
wasn't sure if that ball was going to.
34:45
Speaker 2: Barkley or got her.
34:46
Speaker 1: But either way, whoever was, it was an overthrow and
34:50
that led to, you know, the interception you talked about
34:53
for ricks. I want to talk about mcke though, because
34:57
I thought he was really impressive.
34:58
Speaker 2: I thought he's been impressive.
35:00
Speaker 1: His whole game is predicated on getting the ball out quickly,
35:05
and I know you wrote it in your observations. There
35:07
were a few times where he was sort of he's
35:10
using the middle of the field and getting the ball
35:12
out quickly and really splitting those seams a lot.
35:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a play that he hit Darius Cooper
35:18
and stride on a crosser for a big gain. He
35:21
had a nice connection with Johnny Wilson on an intermediate
35:24
throw over the linebacker. I think I might have been
35:27
Lance Dixon. He had the same to Nick Muse as well.
35:30
Just really good timing and pinpoint accuracy. He gets rid
35:34
of the ball and processes things very quickly, and that's noticeable.
35:37
There's at least four or five passes today that were
35:42
that were notable.
35:42
Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, and that's kind of those two passes
35:47
you mentioned. They came back to back. He hit Muse
35:51
right on the right seam really quickly. Then he hit Johnny.
35:54
It's almost like because the Eagles were in the same
35:56
defensive formation, so he's like bam bam, right seam, left seat, team,
36:00
you know, working the ball around.
36:01
Speaker 2: That was that was impressive to me.
36:04
Speaker 4: The one that he's had, he's solid.
36:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, the one that stood out to me though you
36:09
also mentioned it in your notes, but I had it
36:11
circled in my notebook.
36:12
Speaker 2: There was a play I think it was a little
36:14
bit of a play action.
36:15
Speaker 1: He fakes the handoff and he let the defense converge
36:17
a little bit and at the last second he kind
36:20
of poked it over the middle to not Muse. Was
36:23
it a lot too who kind of stumbled, but then yeah, yeah,
36:27
so that was intentional.
36:28
Speaker 2: That was a play action.
36:30
Speaker 1: Let the defense suck, the suck, the linebackers, everybody else
36:33
in and then bam, throw it over. And in all
36:36
three of these instances, the receivers and surprisingly they're all
36:39
tight ends right, were able to get extra yards. And
36:42
on that one a lot too fell but he didn't
36:46
have his knees on the ground, so he was like
36:47
kind of crawling on his feet right to get extra yards,
36:50
which was it was good to see. But I think
36:52
that all of that was possible because McKee A delivers
36:55
quickly and b is hitting guys in stride.
36:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, and it's timing based and it's keeping the
37:01
offense on schedule. You often hear Kevin Patulo mentioned that,
37:05
and that's something that I've noticed from McKee through six practices.
37:08
Speaker 1: Here you go, Wilson, I have to agree with you
37:12
one hundred percent. I feel like, if this guy's gonna
37:15
make the team, he's got to figure out a way
37:18
to make his six foot seven body advantageous as more
37:22
than just the blocking wide receiver. Year two, I feel
37:26
like he's not played like sixt' seven.
37:28
Speaker 3: He hasn't I was expecting a little bit more competitiveness
37:31
and attacking the catch point, pulling in those contested catches.
37:35
I mean, we just talked about Mac McWilliams having a
37:37
pass break that mc williams is five foot ten Johnny
37:40
Wilson's six'.
37:42
Speaker 4: SIX i didn't think that he gave a particularly good
37:44
effort on that.
37:45
Speaker 3: Play and when you have when you're a rangy receiver like,
37:49
that utilize that to your advantage because you have a
37:52
skill set that not not anybody else.
37:55
Speaker 4: Has it's it's not very.
37:56
Speaker 3: Ordinary but then you look at someone Like Elijah Cooks
37:59
jeff And i'm not comparing the two other than to
38:03
say they have a similar, frame AND i Think Elijah
38:06
cooks does a much better job in terms of using
38:08
his body and different things like that to his, advantage
38:11
Whereas Johnny wilson has has come up small in his
38:14
opportunities in many of his opportunities.
38:16
Speaker 4: And hasn't caught the football with a lot of.
38:18
Speaker 1: Consistency, yeah now to go back To Elijah, cooks he
38:23
nearly made another highlight reel.
38:27
Speaker 2: Play was it McKee who threw it to?
38:28
Speaker 4: Him it, Was, yeah it was, McGee.
38:30
Speaker 1: AND i think it was on a blitz because it
38:32
did look like a one on one situation where he
38:36
threw it to you, know down the like a go
38:38
route to uh To cooks who beat the corner by
38:41
just a.
38:41
Speaker 2: STUFLE i don't Think cooks is the fastest guy in the, world,
38:43
right he's just now he.
38:44
Speaker 3: Doesn't he doesn't really separate particularly. Well he uses his
38:48
frame to kind of play above.
38:49
Speaker 1: The, rim, Right so he went up between the corner
38:53
AND i think the safety was a little late to get,
38:55
there but he couldn't come down with.
38:57
Speaker 2: It or also it might have been a touchdown because
39:00
right around the.
39:00
Speaker 4: Pylon, yeah it would have been a.
39:02
Speaker 3: Touchdown he's just had he had three practices in a
39:06
row where he's flashed and then if he were able
39:09
to come down with that, TODAY i mean that's he's
39:12
already he would have already have done more this camp
39:15
Than Johnny.
39:15
Speaker 4: Wilson and that's not an exaggeration by any in any.
39:18
Speaker 2: Sense.
39:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, no he's in some, ways dare we, say
39:21
sort of A joseph In gotta of.
39:23
Speaker 4: THIS i was just gonna, say he reminds me a
39:26
lot Of joseph And.
39:26
Speaker 1: Gotta, yeah but even In gotta didn't have like four
39:30
amazing days of catches in a, Row so that's that
39:33
has been pretty impressive For.
39:34
Speaker 2: COOKS i have a feeling he's going to earn himself
39:36
a spot on the practice.
39:37
Speaker 4: Squad, yeah practice. Squad, yeah, yeah.
39:39
Speaker 1: Absolutely people are probably like fifty three your, Nuts, Jeff, no,
39:43
NO i that would be insane if it is to
39:47
say that right.
39:47
Speaker 3: NOW i think practice squad's a good, bet just given
39:51
the different roles that the other players above him.
39:53
Speaker 2: Have. Yeah, Yeah so your thoughts on Ag dillon so?
39:57
Speaker 3: Far you, KNOW i didn't really know what to expect
40:02
going into training camp with Aj, dollon BUT i Think,
40:05
jeff he's looked kind of AS i.
40:07
Speaker 4: Expected he hasn't dazzled one way or the.
40:09
Speaker 3: Other he doesn't necessarily have the juice That barkley Or shipley,
40:14
have but he's found the crease and he's broken through
40:18
the line a couple of different times in the past
40:21
protection drill where running backs and. Linebackers he missed the
40:25
initial strike on on one, occasion AND i think it
40:28
might have been Against Monda junior and lost that one pretty.
40:32
Easily so, YEAH i mean he's kind of been. UNEVEN
40:35
i guess for, Me, YEAH i.
40:37
Speaker 2: Thought i'm only evaluating him as a runner right.
40:39
Speaker 1: Now AND i actually thought today watching Him, thursday THAT
40:44
i saw some of. THAT i don't want to call
40:46
it juice because he's like a two hundred fIF but you,
40:49
know he runs well for a guy obviously his side,
40:51
right AND i thought he was running the ball pretty
40:53
well when it was in his.
40:54
Speaker 2: Hand they're getting him leathered.
40:55
Speaker 1: Up it's good that he hasn't had any neck issues right.
40:59
NOW i would say he's doing what he needs to
41:02
do to make the team as the number two or
41:05
number three running. Back even with the impressiveness that we've
41:08
seen from say A Montreal johnson or even A.
41:11
Speaker 2: Derekroll is not gonna make. It he'll be on the practice, squad.
41:14
Speaker 4: But it'll be somebody that flashes in the preseason probably right.
41:17
Speaker 2: Right people will love. Him but BUT i would, say so,
41:20
far so good FOR Aj.
41:21
Speaker 3: Dillon, yeah, NO i think you have to be pleased
41:24
if you're The, eagles because you know what you're getting with.
41:27
It with his skill, set he doesn't necessarily have the
41:30
home run hitting, ability.
41:31
Speaker 2: But, yes, yes now your boy Will.
41:34
Speaker 1: Shipley we talked about him taking the JETSWEEP i thought
41:37
he had a pretty good was it a blitz pick
41:39
up or a pass somewhere he had to step in
41:42
and take on a line as, yes, yes so, yeah yeah.
41:47
Speaker 3: It Was and that is going to be the determining
41:51
Factor jeff and Getting will on the field more this.
41:54
Year it's not about his past. Catching it's not he
41:56
has unique, qualities but, yeah in order to at playing
42:00
time the carve out a, role you have to prove
42:02
that you can pass for tech and that's been something
42:04
that he's been working, very very diligent on to make
42:07
sure that he's able to have that area short.
42:08
Speaker 1: Up, yeah and everybody should check out your story on
42:11
him On inside The birds dot.
42:12
Speaker 2: Com you, know he's talked about.
42:13
Speaker 1: It working on that and really how that running that
42:17
running back room becomes a lot more like diverse and multi,
42:22
OPTIONAL i guess when you consider obviously What saquon, is
42:26
but Then shipley's ability to sort of take The kenneth
42:31
game will role and advance it even more in the
42:33
as far as the round passing, game you, know but
42:37
again the pass pro and blitz pick pass to be,
42:39
there we really haven't seen yet where he's in a
42:42
situation where he has to, sort meaning, like, oh where is?
42:45
Speaker 2: It where's it all coming? FROM i mean they've they've.
42:47
Speaker 1: Thrown some blitz as a, camp but there's always that
42:50
one day or two where the decordinator just decides to
42:53
dial up every single zero blitz that he's got in his.
42:55
Speaker 2: Playbook AND i look forward to that, day probably more
43:00
than the running backs. Do but, uh but, yeah but
43:05
that's a good test so, far AND i think he's
43:07
coming along.
43:07
Speaker 1: Nicely do you did you were you there For Michael
43:13
clay's press, Conference, YES i was anything jump out to
43:16
you on.
43:16
Speaker 3: That there's a question asked About Avery williams and maybe
43:22
he hasn't been featured as, much AND i think he, said,
43:24
well he's still learning the, system learning the, language and
43:27
he cited how integral he is as a personal protector on.
43:33
Speaker 4: PUNT i believe it. Was BUT i mean he was
43:39
back there today returning some.
43:42
Speaker 3: Punts BUT i Think Annia smith is an interesting guy
43:44
in this, Equation, jeff because he does have some juice
43:48
and he was a productive returner At TEXAS A and
43:50
M michael gave me a good answer on what he's
43:52
seen From anias and AND i think that that based
43:56
on what we're seeing that could go a long way
43:57
and him maybe elbowing his way into the roster consideration
44:02
if he really can showcase some. Qualities has a good
44:04
return of the. Preseason, YEAH i mean.
44:07
Speaker 6: If The eagles had to make a fifty three man
44:09
roster today at wide, receiver you know That Aj, Brown
44:12
DeVante smith And John. DOTSON i think has had a nice,
44:15
CAMP i mean spectacular, stuff but he knows the.
44:18
Speaker 1: OFFENSE i think he's playing. Well so those three are
44:20
obviously on the. Team AND i think An ias, again
44:24
if this were today that we were making, decision is
44:26
shown that he would be among the.
44:28
Speaker 2: FIVE i mean Probably Elijah.
44:29
Speaker 1: Cooks except you, know we won't really make the fifty,
44:32
three but Not Johnny, Wilson Terrace marshall is having a nice,
44:36
camp but now he's been out for a couple of,
44:38
practices so there's there's some.
44:40
Speaker 2: Opportunity it's Funny Taylor.
44:43
Speaker 1: MOOREN i was watching him play in the slot And i'm,
44:45
like my, gosh this guy is. TINY i forget What
44:49
britain Dub, YEAH i got, that thank, YOU i Got
44:53
britain covey. Vibes so so, yeah it'll be interesting as
44:57
camp goes on and really see how this wide receiver
45:00
competition plays.
45:00
Speaker 4: Out, YEAH i can't.
45:02
Speaker 3: Wait Danny gray was the dark horse, there but he's
45:05
no more so there's opportunities to be earned anybody.
45:10
Speaker 1: Else you, know we went through offensive defense that you
45:12
wanted to make a knowe on OR i might have missed.
45:14
Speaker 3: Here we mentioned the TWO udfa running backs THAT i
45:19
thought had some nice.
45:21
Speaker 2: Moments, Yeah.
45:23
Speaker 3: GRANTSON i wanted to mention THAT i Thought grandson saw
45:25
a flurry of targets over the six, days more so Than.
45:28
Bryant they hadn't really been able to connect too much
45:31
at least today With. Grantson there was a lot of
45:33
passes that were wide or he was diving and they were,
45:35
short and he dropped the touchdown a couple of days.
45:37
Ago BUT i do think that he moves well and
45:40
he has some positional versatility that should be.
45:43
Speaker 2: Appealing.
45:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah you know when with mccooba, out Obviously Sidney
45:48
brown has run alongside Read blankenship in. Nickel it's usually
45:53
in base you're Seeing cooper and Read.
45:56
Speaker 2: BLANKETSHIP i try to look at how.
45:58
Speaker 1: They, rotate like not, rotate how they roll their safeties
46:02
in certain packages because you, Know vic always starts off
46:04
too high and then it changes after the. Snap and
46:07
Obviously Sidney brown when they're In nichol is the one
46:09
who usually tends to get in that robber slash box
46:12
roll and somebody else's the post, safety which is not
46:16
all the, time but that's What i've seen, mostly but.
46:19
Speaker 4: Oh very, quick very.
46:20
Speaker 3: Quickly N Kobe, DEAN i saw him working before, practice
46:25
doing some cone drills and pulling a sled, backwards you,
46:28
know working. Gradually and then ALSO E. J jenkins was
46:31
doing some white striding after. Practice he had a sleeve
46:35
over his right leg he has the hamstring. Issue and
46:38
THEN i saw him walking gingerly off the. Field so
46:42
that's something that we'll be keeping an eye.
46:44
Speaker 4: On but it was good to see both players getting.
46:46
Speaker 2: Some work absolutely all.
46:48
Speaker 1: Right so those are the observations we'll Obviously i'll be
46:50
back soon sometime soon next few days to continue to
46:54
recap what we see At eagles training. Camp that is
46:57
going to do it for this episode Of inside The
46:59
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47:02
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