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Michelle Sobel & Harry Gottlieb: Strengthening Democracy Through Joyful Collaboration
In this episode of The PlayFull Podcast, Kristine Michie talks with Michelle Sobel and Harry Gottlieb—co-founders of Unify America—about reducing polarization, rebuilding civic trust, and helping people collaborate across differences with curiosity and play. They explore how civic skills grow through structured dialogue, why diverse groups often generate stronger solutions than solitary experts, and how joy and imagination can shift communities away from adversarial habits. Through programs like the Unify Challenge and Civic Gym, Michelle and Harry share how campuses and communities can…
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