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Loose Partnership · Boundary Corner Podcast

• 0:45
  Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast.
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  Brother. We are back after a little
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  layoffs. I'm Curtis Wilson.
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  I'm Brian Sigler. Yeah buddy.
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  It's been a little bit of time here but we're back at it here
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  on a Wednesday night. Doing what we do, we got a lot
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  of topics tonight. A lot of stuff to cover.
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  We spoke last week on Monday and we basically said we don't have
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  enough to go this week, maybe. 30 minutes.
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  Let's Skip and it's like the college football.
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  God said, oh really guys, here's a bunch of crap.
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  Yeah, well, some content, we got some content for you.
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  Yeah, we have some hokey stuff, we got some hokey adjacent
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  stuff. We got some national stuff.
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  Here you go, he's everything. And it's everywhere.
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  And, you know, we haven't been here in a few weeks.
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  But for the next three weeks, you're going to see us back to
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  back to back. We each then we're going to take
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  a little break before the season and for the Camp starts but, you
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  know, your boys. We got to have a little Vacation
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  time Brian had a wedding to go to.
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  We've been doing the normal spawn, summertime stuff here.
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  Yeah, it kind of is what it is, everything between the pool and
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  Cocktails and cookouts. Yeah, trip trip trip to New York
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  for a wedding, had another wedding thrown in there.
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  Been been down to the beach, a couple times, not not anywhere
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  far away. Just just Virginia Beach with
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  the inlaws, So but it's been a good time.
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  It's been, it's been a fun summer.
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  So far, we got through the fourth had a good time.
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  So a little fireworks, you know, didn't didn't blow up little
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  finger off or anything. So I think we're doing, all
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  right. He should just say he didn't
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  jpp. I did not jpp it.
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  Oh no, I'm not going to roll in here.
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  Missing digits. I think I'm good.
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  But let's get to a brownie. Have so much to cover.
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  Let's hit a couple quick headlines before we get into the
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  deep topics of the night. Let's start with this.
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  Now, it's just a few weeks ago. Pete Morris is essentially no
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  longer the assistant ad. He has moved to Northern Iowa
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  and is now the director of University relations.
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  I have not seen any announcement as of this time.
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  I'm who is replacement is if somebody has let us know, I
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  heard it was up to her mop with a bucket for a head on a great
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  jobs. Well, let's just say this, we
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  clearly know that over the last about six months, seven months,
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  people like RJ of the Hokey football Twitter account.
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  Yeah, they took they took away his passwords.
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  He was no longer. They send me the tweets and you
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  could tell it. It was obvious.
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  Yes, we hit 3 because dude, tweeted the same from The Hokey
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  account, like he did from his personal account.
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  Man, only thing missing is he didn't tweet some like weird-ass
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  steak. was he was eating at night, he was leaving in but
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  that but the bigger pieces, it finally, we noticed after that
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  time, it looks like they had given it to someone potentially
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  a student. You can tell by the way it's
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  tweeted it's not your you have some set time stuff but it's not
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  everything set timed. It's in random stuff out there.
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  Some fun stuff Graphics Department always doing an
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  awesome job. So Pete's going to be interested
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  to see cuz I feel like this is going to be one of those Brent
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  priors you kind of know about because this is essentially
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  going to be his media guy. So interesting, I'm assuming is
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  going to come from Penn State at some point.
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  State or some other stuff that he's had along the way.
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  Exactly. Exactly.
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  All right, let's hit this real quick.
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  A little national news, it's not official yet, but it looks like
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  there's been recommendations for transfer portal Windows.
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  It used to basically just be a free-for-all for nine months.
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  From basically August 12 May 1 in that's just dumb.
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  You have kids trans you know getting in the portal in season.
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  But now they're looking at potentially two windows
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  essentially, the way it's shaping up one after second
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  national Signing Day and then one after Spring ball for a
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  couple weeks. I will say I like this because a
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  it to me it helps the students out because they need to commit
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  to where they're going to be at for the semester because how
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  many kids are out there right now, without a place to go.
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  It said, yes sad because there are so many kids that do not
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  have a home and and some kids, I think it's going to help having
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  them, you know, if it's one of those in season.
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  Ian's, you know, if the situation is unfavorable hey you
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  stick it out for the rest of the season, you might get some extra
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  tape that's going to benefit exactly where your next stop is.
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  So but then also, with the whole idea of the Spring ball thing Is
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  if you go through spring practice to where you are,
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  right. Yep.
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  Go to Spring practice where you are again more additional tape.
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  You know, there's tape going on every day inside these programs
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  and if you like you're not the fit again, there's more info to
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  get out to your potential. Next school.
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  Also like having it after national Signing Day.
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  The second one, which should be the only one but that's neither
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  here nor there because at least at that point in time or the
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  coaching. Staffs now week away from the
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  student athlete They know where they sit at, right?
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  They know exactly where they sit at and it's kids start going.
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  They can start preparing for the next recruiting cycle versus the
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  way it is. Now, you know, you could be
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  sitting there and it's like, okay, boom, dropping the hammer
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  in the middle of the season. It's like, okay, we didn't
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  account for this. So I think the winners are a
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  good idea. Of course, they're planning on
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  it. Because what else does the NCAA
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  do? They can't make decisions to
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  save their life. So you the n-c-double-a having a
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  good idea put on their plate and then talking about it and
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  punning. I've never heard that story
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  before in my life. Oh wait that's every situation
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  that we've been dealing with the past 15 20 years and it's
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  probably why the situation we're going to talk about a little
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  lady. Here has happened and eventually
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  I think I want to see any Josh P, put it out there for those
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  who hate the NCAA, what happened?
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  Kind of could be the beginning of the end.
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  So we'll see ya. Yeah, and I mean, let's talk
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  about the windows a little bit more real quick before you move
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  on. You know, we talked you talked
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  about the window after the the second signing day, I'm a bigger
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  fan of maybe having it after the first Signing Day, okay?
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  Only because if you're looking to get enrolled in a new school,
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  get in the winter workouts, with that new school, the timing
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  works better like mid-December through early January versus Has
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  little bit later in January. And if that be weary in, that
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  makes sense to either way, you've got to have a time limit
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  on it, you can't just have a free-for-all like, it's been but
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  again, something the NCAA didn't want to govern as usual still
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  not governing at the moment. So hopefully it gets worked out
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  one way or the other by someone of the other real quick kick,
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  the basketball. You met illuma, did not get
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  drafted, but he has, you know, signed on with the Grizz I think
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  me and you were to the point he made the right decision.
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  You know, obviously now he's got a free agent contract in
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  regardless, what workouts, he would works out in the NBA.
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  The hope is he can make a roster and stay in the league 10 years.
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  Yeah, but I think now because he's getting that pub at the NBA
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  level I think if he cannot get on with anyone in the league
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  he's going to have a 10 or 12 year career somewhere overseas
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  whether it's Germany. Italy, Spain, France.
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  Some of those you know good second-tier leagues.
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  Yep. And have a very healthy living
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  like several Hokies have over the last decade.
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  Yeah, I mean he's definitely going to be a guy that can tear
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  up one of the European leagues. You know whether he can catch on
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  and find a bench role or a role player roll with with an NBA
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  team is to be seen but you know, I definitely think he's gonna,
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  he's got professional career ahead of him for the next five
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  to ten years regardless of whether that's here or somewhere
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  overseas. He's now so best of luck to
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  alumina in the future, and Brian, we've hit it.
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  We are about to hit one of our three big topics tonight.
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  We're going to look at recruiting Because boy.
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  Oh boy has the last week. Been pretty crazy for the Hokies
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  as the Hokies landed six commits.
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  Um, you know, since roughly the end of last week.
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  Yep. Currently her 24/7, ranked 35th
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  with with 15 total commits. Remember, this is no limit this
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  year. So I think we're halfway there.
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  I think we'll see it. I think at least 10 more,
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  probably 15 more or by having this shit, What we're Living on
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  a Prayer. We're halfway there.
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  We're halfway there. We're Living on a Prayer.
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  Yes, exactly. 35th in the overall and the composite kind
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  of where we said we should be. We won't top 30.
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  I think we can live with 35 but let's talk about these kids
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  crying. Take a look at them.
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  Each, let's start with the first commit here.
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  You know, we talked about, you got to look at the small school.
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  You cannot Over look like places, where we grew up and
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  they didn't Overlook and it's to vorian Copeland at Appomattox
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  counting. Not too far from where we grew
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  up. He's a linebacker Prospect for
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  2476. 493 pounds, he is the 19th, ranked player in the state
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  of Virginia. He is a three-star, 87 /, 24/7.
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  And you know, his offer lists Definitely a smart kid with
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  offers from Pain, Princeton and Dartmouth.
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  But essentially, it came down really to UVA and Tech he chose
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  Tech. So just kind of taking a look at
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  him. Brian.
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  What are you projecting for Copeland?
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  He's kind of that guy could see probably going to start in that
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  Sam roll. But could potentially move over
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  to will, depending on how much he's able to put on Weight Wise
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  and play against the Run. But I like his build out the
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  gate. That 64 frame can definitely
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  take a little bit more size. Get him in the weight room.
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  Get a little bit more weight on him and see what he can do.
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  But runs pretty well. I like his athleticism.
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  We'll see if he can hold up at Sam but if he's not at saying, I
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  could see him sliding over to will at some point.
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  Um, you know, do you? I mean, I think he's one of
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  those guys that's probably when he steps on campus is a
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  three-year project. Appomattox is a very small.
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  I can't remember their to a or 1A 2A.
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  I think to a well. So, he's coming from a smaller
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  school. He probably is the best athlete
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  on the field, every time he plays.
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  Yeah. And which sometimes that hurts,
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  but sometimes that helps You know it's one of those coin
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  flip, some guys get in they can't they can't deal with it
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  some guys get it and they strive to be what they were before.
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  So you're projecting at a linebacker position.
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  His primary recruiters Joe Rudolph and Chris, Mar I think,
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  you know, we saw Rudolph, we know, he went through glass, he
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  was down on Southside. So clearly he's kind of found
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  his neck of the woods there and sure for sure.
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  Awesome, good land there. Now, the next one. you know that
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  we went out of state on But it's still within the footprint, by
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  maybe 10 minutes. Obviously a connection to Brent
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  Pride Penn State and prize listed as his primary recruiter
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  with more being a secondary and that's a sand Stevens at a
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  Decatur Central and Indianapolis 64, 210 lb linebacker, a top 10
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  player in the state of Indiana three-star. 87, And you know
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  offers from Iowa State Purdue and you know looks like
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  Cincinnati had some interest from some other big ten schools
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  like Nebraska and Minnesota. So definitely Real Deal Prospect
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  obviously with Tommy Stevens is brother being you know also a
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  division one player footballs in his blood Brian.
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  Where are you projecting Stevens?
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  And you know how far do you think he has to come?
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  He doesn't have to come. As far as Copeland, I'm
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  projecting him at a Mike, I think, just based on his speed,
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  he's probably doesn't have enough quickness to to be
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  outside, whether it will or in Sam.
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  I think he's definitely going to end up in Mike, but I like, I
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  like his instincts. I like his technique.
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  He's somebody that depending on what happens.
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  You know, with after this season, I can see him having the
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  impact probably in his second year on campus.
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  So me he's he could be the real deal, not necessarily an elite
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  player at the position, but somebody solid that can hold
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  that down as we kind of transition from one regime to
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  the next. Bo super interesting to see that
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  prowess is primary and that might have been.
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  Maybe he was the primary when he was at Penn State and it's just
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  one of those things that can carry over because very rarely.
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  Do you see a head coach be a primary only guy?
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  So you kind of Wonder is this his linebacker?
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  His prototypical Mike linebacker would just suggest be to go
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  ahead. Just just enough speed to go you
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  start sideline to sideline and get there.
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  He's not Got somebody that's gonna, You Know, cover a slot
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  receiver, one-on-one. You don't, you don't want that
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  match up a lot of the game but he's a guy that can hang in
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  there and get the job done. And as you said, I think, you
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  know, Pride was probably his primary at Penn State.
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  They already had a relationship established, he kept that going
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  brought Marvin's and smart was going to be his position coach,
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  and his coordinator, and kind of let the rest take care of
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  itself. But I think of the, the
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  linebacking pickups that we had, this is probably my Favorite.
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  Because I think it's a really good fit for prize system,
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  especially if you know, he's able to stick it to my position.
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  Yeah. Now, he does play also
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  quarterback and I know there was the joke from his brother about
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  possibly getting some time in the room with Tyler.
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  Bowen, I don't foresee that, but it's always, you know, it's
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  always good to know, having a linebacker who played that
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  position, because there is a lot of the mental parts to
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  understand. If you're playing a, how many
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  times do we always hear it? Crying.
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  Go back to your Everett team with Peyton Manning when they
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  played the Ravens. How many matchups was it between
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  Manning and Louis? Making the calls, make the
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  adjustments making the second one.
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  So definitely like having that background with him.
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  Yeah, definitely a chess match there.
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  So if you can get somebody that can handle that part of it.
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  And kind of see things as they're happening and pick it
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  up, make the adjustments, get everybody where they need to be
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  get the alignment right. That's what you need.
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  Absolutely. All right.
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  But we weren't done yet. That's, that's the
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  understatement. Oh my gosh.
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  We're just getting halfway there now.
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  And the next was Caleb. Woodson had a battlefield up in
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  Haymarket rated as a safety 63 200 pounds.
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  Number 31, player, in state of Virginia, three starred in 86.
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  Held some offers and some interest from Florida State Wake
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  in Virginia Ryan. You immediately told me the
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  second we talked about him. He's not going to play safety in
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  this system. Yeah.
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  I mean I think he's going to end up at Sam.
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  I think he could play safety. There's potential there but I
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  think speed is probably his biggest weakness, top end speed.
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  I think we can get him at Sam and because he does tackle.
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  Well, he does have really good. Instincts.
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  I think Sam is going to be where he ends up long-term and I think
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  he can really thrive in that position.
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  Also, good to see here, you know, Battlefield Haymarket
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  that's up in Northern Virginia, right?
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  Right. Yeah.
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  My losing my mind. So that's kind of the, you know.
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  It's kind of one of your first Northern.
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  Virginia wins there again. It's anything we see in
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  Virginia. Now, do we want four stars?
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  Do we want? Five stars from Virginia?
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  Yes. But it's something we've said
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  since day one, it's you have to lay the foundation.
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  You have clue to make the relationships and taking players
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  who, you know, are, you know, ranked in the top thousand and
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  ranked in the top 30 in the state, that's what you do.
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  You find the players that fit your system and what you hope
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  is, it's the benefits later, right?
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  It's treating Caleb Woodson and his family in the coaching staff
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  at Battlefield, right? If they have a four stars, In
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  two or three years, he knows the relationship.
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  He knows how the staff treats people.
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  Yeah, that's going to be the big thing.
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  We're laying the foundation. Again, we're getting back into
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  those big schools that produce consistent division.
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  One Talent within the state, and we're getting those
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  relationships back. We've gotten away from that.
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  We had gotten to a point where if it wasn't, you know, a
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  relationship that was already there it was, they were finding
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  it, hard to get some some Headway of some of these key
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  recruits in the state. Eight.
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  This is laying the foundation and the guy we're going to talk
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  about next is, is another big part of laying that Foundation.
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  It's at Primary School's, absolute, before we jump to him.
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  We got a couple folks that are already hitting us up in the
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  chat tonight. Brian, let's throw those up
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  here. Obviously, Dwight always we
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  appreciate you listening, brother, talking about
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  battlefields of great program and he can play and he is a tech
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  guy. Love to hear that from the white
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  and again, it's making the in rows in Battlefield, and there's
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  one more in there, Brian. And talking about a Saint
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  Stephen's, our coach Robbie Compton.
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  I buddy talking about Mike in this system is closed as a cube.
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  You can be on the D so we hear that about Stephens again.
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  It's good feelings. But Brian, the next one that
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  happened. I think it hit watching the
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  video gave chills seeing at one picture with his dad's name, the
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  reflection, the picture of Dad in the background Braylon
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  Johnson at a Highland Springs. Restar when he committed it it
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  felt like one of your own was coming home and it was one of
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  those. I don't think I ever had a time
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  since he started his recruiting, that he wasn't going to come.
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  I think he knows the importance of it.
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  I think he knows how big a player.
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  His dad was in the building of the foundation back in the 90s.
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  I think he understands how important player he is right now
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  and his high school is to the rebuilding of the tech program.
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  Yeah, this is a big pickup on several fronts.
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  Number one, he's a good player. That's, that's first and
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  foremost. But number two, what it means to
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  get a legacy player from a program like hi.
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  Springs, son of a great coach and that's not hyperbole in the
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  slightest, a great, great coach, and great form of hokey.
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  So, I mean, this is, this is what it's all about.
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  And watching the, the commit video, obviously, both of us,
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  you know, in the 804 area. I mean, it was, it was special,
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  you know, watching hokey highlights watching.
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  Shut up from, from his, his area, the city.
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  I mean it was special across-the-board.
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  Yes, it was super special. Now let's talk about the
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  football player now because, you know, you know, he's Lauren
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  Johnson's kid. Everybody knows that, but when
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  you look at the tape, E6, 170 pounds that project him and
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  safety. Is he staying at safety?
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  Is he a corner? Where do you think they're going
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  to try to fit him in? I think he's probably stays the
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  safety. I think he could be free safety
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  in this system. He might end up sliding over a
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  corner. A lot of times though.
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  You know guys started corner and get moved to safety so I don't
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  know if that's the path. He's if he's gonna come in and
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  you know go through a spring or fall with with cheetah and then
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  slide over with piercing after that.
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  We'll see. But I think ultimately he's
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  going to end up playing safety for us.
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  I like to hear that, you know, just just one of those, just one
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  of those things that make you feel good.
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  One of the guys who was the original DB, you son, hopefully
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  bring it back to prominence again.
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  And I think again, in the state, the Highland Springs, Inn Road
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  were made at the end of the Fuente era.
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  Really driven hard home by JC. I really do believe that I
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  really do believe, JC and Darrell and couple.
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  Other guys, really drove it home.
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  And I think this program or this current program, Am really knows
• 22:47
  the focus of it. They know the focus of it and
• 22:50
  it's awesome to see. So you know, I'm just glad he's
• 22:56
  committed again. If you have not watched the
• 22:57
  video go watch it. Especially if you're from here
• 23:00
  in Richmond. It'll it should make you feel
• 23:02
  some chills. All right, Brian, let's talk
• 23:05
  about some speed. Next, let's talk about the
• 23:09
  eastern part of North Carolina, Southern ashes on trail on
• 23:12
  Mitchell. 62 185 class. Bad as an athlete.
• 23:18
  I think we are on his only division or his only P5 offer
• 23:24
  East Carolina appstate, some other folks that had a look at
• 23:28
  them here, 26 player in the state of North Carolina, but you
• 23:32
  know, we hear speed and then you hear ten point.
• 23:36
  Three hundred meters, that's fast.
• 23:39
  Yeah, he's a burner, he's a burner and yeah, he's fast and
• 23:45
  I'll tell you what, I like he's fast, but I see 62.
• 23:49
  I see 185, hmm. So he's fast but he's not like
• 23:55
  small fast. He's got a little bit of size to
• 23:58
  him and I think that's going to end up having him somewhere on
• 24:02
  that wide receiver position. And I like that for him, I think
• 24:08
  initially at the gate, he's probably going to be a special
• 24:10
  teams contributor, but I think long-term, you can see him, you
• 24:13
  know, making some noise, even as just You know, primary, you
• 24:17
  know, one-dimensional thread as a wide receiver, you can see him
• 24:21
  making some plays that way. Where's the tape out on him?
• 24:24
  What's it showing him doing? You know, down at Southern Ash,
• 24:26
  that you've seen? You know, he does a little bit
• 24:31
  of everything for them but you know, they had them lined up a
• 24:35
  lot of different places on the field, okay?
• 24:38
  On both sides of the ball. But I like I said, I think
• 24:41
  primarily he's going to be a white out for us.
• 24:44
  I'm just based on his frame, his speed and what he can do with
• 24:48
  the football. Yeah, primary recruiter Willis
• 24:52
  to whole second date was Tyler. Bowling me and you talked about
• 24:56
  this with everybody Robbie and some other folks, as well Steve
• 25:00
  Holt was brought in him and Derek Jones were brought in to
• 25:04
  sort of handle North Carolina. Stews dad was a coach down there
• 25:07
  one, some one, a lot lot of connections and you know when
• 25:13
  you when you hear athlete and then I hear what you talked
• 25:16
  about like he's everywhere backfield all over the line
• 25:19
  playing defense. Again, I don't feel like we were
• 25:24
  doing that as much in the last are sometimes, it's just go find
• 25:27
  the best athlete on the field. You bring him in, you figure out
• 25:30
  where he plays the best Collegiate football and then you
• 25:32
  let him do it. We saw that how many times in
• 25:35
  the Beamer area and it worked out a lot, though.
• 25:40
  You know, sometimes we can don't try to be, he is a running back
• 25:45
  like no, he is a football player figure out of the running backs,
• 25:49
  his best position. Impress talked about in several
• 25:52
  his press conference. I'm sorry.
• 25:54
  You know, we'll get you on campus.
• 25:55
  We know you're a player, we like, how you go about your
• 25:57
  business, we'll figure out where you can best, we can best
• 26:01
  maximize your abilities for your success, and for our success and
• 26:07
  I think that's one of the type of players that we're trying to
• 26:09
  get on campus. And another one, is the the next
• 26:12
  guy we're going to talk about here in just a couple minutes.
• 26:15
  Absolutely another athlete out of the state of South Carolina,
• 26:20
  a top 10 player in the state of South Carolina three star on.
• 26:25
  Had some interest from West Virginia and Penn State and
• 26:30
  Thomas Williams. Five foot, ten hundred eighty
• 26:33
  pounds out of Powdersville, tell me just out of Greenville area.
• 26:38
  What's the tape saying on him? I mean, Corner running back.
• 26:42
  You know, is he another defensive back?
• 26:44
  The cheetah was his Primary receiver.
• 26:48
  Yeah, I could see him being a corner, I can see him line it up
• 26:52
  at running back. He's got, you know, I'm not
• 26:54
  going. I'm not going to compare him to
• 26:56
  to Macho Harris, but he's got some of the same type of build,
• 26:59
  and same type of qualities. Not quite as Elite level as
• 27:04
  Macho, obviously, but he's got some of the same type of traits
• 27:08
  and I think I can see him at running back.
• 27:10
  I can see him out there corner, but you know, we'll see if he
• 27:14
  can do. Open the into a starter at those
• 27:16
  positions but he's got talent. He's got some some, some good
• 27:21
  wiggle at the running back position, he's able to break
• 27:24
  away when he gets in the open field they use them a lot on
• 27:26
  some screens and things out of the bout fact feel things
• 27:30
  outside of the box so he's able to do those things as well.
• 27:34
  So it might be if he ends up running back, maybe more of a
• 27:39
  more of a chance Black Rain Blackshear type type model, I
• 27:43
  think probably less less of a Seaver than those two, but still
• 27:47
  very capable. Awesome.
• 27:52
  Anytime you hear name, Macho Harris, it's tough to live up to
• 27:54
  that, but it's awesome to hear the qualities, again.
• 27:57
  He's an athlete. I just said he get the athletes
• 28:01
  in the door, figure out their best place to play.
• 28:03
  Also like going down the South Carolina, getting a top 10
• 28:06
  player, they have certain States, if you can get a top 10
• 28:09
  player and you feel good about it and you know, but let's just
• 28:14
  talk over all about the last week.
• 28:16
  Really, it was 647 of the people when you were announcing And the
• 28:22
  seventh it had it had been the ups and downs ups and downs was
• 28:28
  you know, behind the scenes or you know they didn't know it was
• 28:31
  going to do. He eventually chose elsewhere
• 28:33
  but No, there's no big like Crown Jewel in this with the
• 28:39
  exception of Braylon because of who he is but they didn't know
• 28:43
  how hundred player anything. But what does he go?
• 28:46
  When you go on a streak like that, when you get six good
• 28:50
  players they aren't scraping they're all about 86. 87.
• 28:54
  Probably a few of them could get bumped higher this year.
• 28:57
  But what does that mean to you in your head?
• 29:00
  When you hear this was a run good players.
• 29:04
  Different areas of the country you know athletic and overall
• 29:08
  just good football players. Yeah.
• 29:10
  I mean Mitchell aside, these are all like mid-to-high three star
• 29:13
  players. These are your your typical Oil,
• 29:16
  you know, year two year, three contributors coming in, so I'm
• 29:21
  hoping to see, maybe even a little bit higher than that, for
• 29:24
  a couple of these guys, depending on some of these areas
• 29:26
  where we have depth concerns. But I think it's a good solid
• 29:31
  running gives you momentum on the trail of gives you something
• 29:33
  to talk to other recruits about and I think that's big when you
• 29:38
  got guys in the boat. It's a little bit easier sell
• 29:41
  than when you're trying to sell. Sell something that Other people
• 29:46
  haven't bought into yet. And we know that the guys on
• 29:51
  that roster had bought in, but we still have to get that buy-in
• 29:54
  from the guys that are coming here for their future and that's
• 29:58
  still to be determined and it's nice when you get a run like
• 30:01
  this, especially from a couple key areas in your state, along
• 30:06
  with some good grabs in the, the outer reaches of your footprint.
• 30:13
  It gives you momentum on the trail and it gives you something
• 30:15
  else to sell. Did you something else to get
• 30:18
  your? Get your name on the lips
• 30:20
  especially in the state of North Carolina and South Carolina that
• 30:24
  when it's discussed, that this player here went to Virginia
• 30:29
  Tech from this state. Now, I really look at times
• 30:32
  Williams with that top 10 player in South Carolina, leaving,
• 30:35
  South Carolina. I mean, it looks like he was was
• 30:38
  not recruited by those down there, but 24/7 puts him as a
• 30:41
  top 10. Like we've always said, trust
• 30:43
  24/7. He's lowered really by the
• 30:46
  composite rankings elsewhere. Because if everybody had in
• 30:50
  there, he'd be a significantly higher than the composite but
• 30:53
  it's it's getting those Good Vibes in his those kids.
• 30:56
  As we talked about and Dwight mention about Battlefield
• 31:00
  getting the good relationship building.
• 31:03
  When you have that stud and the coaches at your school in the
• 31:08
  family's inside your school and the teachers can speak to who
• 31:12
  these people are and where you're going.
• 31:15
  It's so key because you see it all the time and we've seen the
• 31:19
  social media blitz is and you just hear stories from the
• 31:22
  Camp's, Real Deal coaching staff here that this isn't a
• 31:26
  nine-to-five for them that I think these guys eaten, breathe
• 31:31
  sleep at all the time. Yep.
• 31:33
  Yep. And you can tell the seriousness
• 31:36
  that they go about their business.
• 31:38
  Yeah, you know, we'll see if that turns into the recruiting
• 31:42
  winds that we need and the winds on the field.
• 31:44
  We need but we're definitely going about our business a lot
• 31:49
  better than we've seen in the last, you know, five, six,
• 31:52
  seven, eight years, nine years, whoo, that definitely throughout
• 31:58
  the majority of the of the Fuente era so we can definitely
• 32:03
  attest to that. We can we can tell that that
• 32:08
  we're putting the effort in and we're seeing we're starting to
• 32:11
  see some results, we're starting to see that pay off some.
• 32:14
  I'm hoping that we get some more bigger wins as we kind of close
• 32:19
  out the back half of this cycle that's going to be important.
• 32:25
  Yeah we got it. We had a lot more left.
• 32:27
  We got a lot more left. We got we got about we're a
• 32:30
  little over halfway through right now, we're but we need to
• 32:34
  keep pressing forward. And keep looking for areas where
• 32:40
  we can gain some ground but I feel like we're building the
• 32:43
  right foundation. I just want to see maybe one or
• 32:46
  two home runs as we're hitting these singles, and doubles on
• 32:50
  the trail. All right here.
• 32:54
  Well Brian. So we went to bed a week ago and
• 33:01
  you know, College football seem normal, right?
• 33:06
  They'll come is intact, you know looking at the bigger Team
• 33:10
  league, you know Camp sir, you know the dead periods coming on.
• 33:15
  Obviously the coaches are probably wrapping evaluations
• 33:18
  probably about to take their two-week vacation before they
• 33:20
  get ramped up for camp and all of a sudden on the 30th, it
• 33:26
  dropped that USC and UCLA would be moving to the Big Ten.
• 33:34
  Yep, let me go ahead, but before I give mine, give me your
• 33:38
  initial reaction because I'm sure your phone blew up.
• 33:42
  I'm sure your Twitter notifications and other
• 33:44
  notification with this is like, what the hell?
• 33:47
  It's you 30th? Well, yeah, it was blowing up.
• 33:51
  It was blowing up by initial reaction.
• 33:54
  Where is this? The Domino. because, I think
• 34:01
  we've been kind of flirting with that.
• 34:04
  What's the Domino that's going to really throw complete and
• 34:08
  utter turmoil into what we know? Of call of as college football,
• 34:14
  right? You know, we saw we thought it
• 34:18
  might be something that when Texas and Oklahoma made the SEC
• 34:21
  mood, was it going to be an immediate domino effect there?
• 34:25
  You know, as soon as I saw this news I was like, is this is this
• 34:28
  the one where they're all going to topple?
• 34:30
  Or is this more of a? Just the Big Ten is getting into
• 34:35
  you know one of the three best media markets in the country and
• 34:39
  these two schools are trying to reap the benefit of Big Ten.
• 34:42
  Media money. Yeah.
• 34:45
  Well - and it still to her is still too early to tell at this
• 34:49
  point, but I mean I think that that's where I was at the gate
• 34:51
  is that is this is this, the Domino that's going to lead to a
• 34:56
  brand new era of college football?
• 35:00
  The New Order a college football.
• 35:02
  And it's looking like very well, it could be because I think now
• 35:06
  we're at the dawn of the super conferences and my first thing
• 35:10
  was it was a little bit of shock to say a that is a long travel.
• 35:14
  That is two teams who were used to nice weather football going
• 35:20
  to pay places. Basically.
• 35:22
  After mid-october, there is no nice weather football.
• 35:26
  No anywhere in the Big Ten anywhere.
• 35:29
  So that sort of, you know, little shocked but it's like,
• 35:33
  now you have you look at the SEC and you look at the Big Ten
• 35:37
  there at 16, There are 16, the SEC roughly stretches from the
• 35:43
  coast of South Carolina into the plains of Oklahoma.
• 35:47
  And now the Big Ten is stretching literally from New
• 35:49
  York to LA. And, you know, we sit here and
• 35:55
  the question is, how much more movements coming a, how much
• 35:58
  more movement is coming? Because I think the one reason
• 36:02
  this move was made was because the pac-10 or Pac-12.
• 36:07
  Meteorites, are up and basically 2023.
• 36:11
  And obviously, there's an ounce if they're going to the table
• 36:14
  and are trying to negotiate a deal, but how much more movement
• 36:18
  could we see now there are reports that the Big Ten doesn't
• 36:22
  want you dubber organ. And the Big 12 trying to
• 36:25
  convince PAC 12 teams to come the acc's not saying today.
• 36:29
  Damn word, which scares the shit out of me.
• 36:31
  You have tech fans left and right screaming.
• 36:33
  We need to bleep and get on it with Bayonne calls, don't fuck
• 36:38
  us. Yeah, and and all of that is
• 36:41
  right, right? Like right now.
• 36:42
  No one knows where we're heading and if I'm if I'm Wit Babcock,
• 36:47
  I'm I'm game. Thering the shit out of this
• 36:50
  thing. Yes, I'm calling the Big Ten.
• 36:54
  I'm calling the SEC but I'm also calling the ACC E office and get
• 37:00
  on the horn with Phyllis time saying, you need to add some
• 37:05
  teams and get get us. Some better meteorites on this
• 37:10
  deal. So, we have a little bit more
• 37:12
  firewall if this is going to carry forward, but I'm
• 37:15
  definitely hedging. I'm definitely seeing if the ACC
• 37:19
  ends up, getting blown up. If we start getting poached, you
• 37:22
  know, two three big teams on the front end.
• 37:25
  I mean that that's I'm looking to get out at that point.
• 37:30
  Yeah, if you're losing, if you're losing Miami, you're
• 37:33
  losing FSU, you're losing Clemson, you're losing the UNC?
• 37:38
  You need to go ahead and have a plan in place because you don't
• 37:42
  want to be that, you know, the guy holding the bag at the end.
• 37:46
  Know you don't. Now, luckily for Tech in this
• 37:49
  sense is, you know, we do have a big footprint.
• 37:55
  It in some major media markets, I don't I don't give a shit.
• 37:59
  What the media says? Well Maryland's a no Northern
• 38:02
  Virginia DC in the southern part of Maryland is not Maryland
• 38:07
  country. The TV sets, you can turn it on
• 38:10
  and see, Marilyn ain't no more fucking body watching, Maryland
• 38:14
  football up there. So for me, that's baby state.
• 38:22
  For me though, if you're the SEC and you want to get into a top
• 38:24
  10 Market, where your best bet they're a, if you take a look at
• 38:30
  the long-term history of the football program, you feel it's
• 38:34
  going to be competitive, you know, we show up for games,
• 38:36
  we're not going to be, you're not showing us on ESPN on a
• 38:40
  Saturday night and it's, you know, a half full Stadium.
• 38:43
  That's not gonna happen. So we have some things going for
• 38:47
  us. It's also that value.
• 38:48
  Which are buddy. Dr. Jeremy Let's put up the day
• 38:52
  which I think shocked me and you talking about this is a little
• 38:55
  few years older but Tech essentially athletic department
• 38:59
  being at valued at two hundred eighty million dollars.
• 39:02
  Which I think as being you look kind of shocked that we're ahead
• 39:05
  of some people. We did not expect to be ahead of
• 39:09
  ya and I think that's, you know, our brand is taking a little bit
• 39:12
  of a hit since those numbers came out.
• 39:14
  So it's probably not 100% indicative but it's also not
• 39:18
  fall off the map either know. You know, that had us number
• 39:22
  three in the conference. In terms of valuation, I
• 39:25
  wouldn't put us any lower than probably five since then.
• 39:29
  Yeah, you know, maybe a year, UNC jumps us, maybe he wasn't
• 39:35
  was right. Who was the weather with right?
• 39:37
  Right below. Us, was it Louisville?
• 39:41
  Hold on. Let me get that.
• 39:42
  I remember who it was UNC. Would have.
• 39:44
  Had to make up 120 million dollars?
• 39:46
  Yeah, I knew they were pretty and let's be honest, I mean, in
• 39:50
  terms of Revenue, Jordan brand and basketball is where their
• 39:55
  valuation is. They don't really have a brand
• 39:58
  in football. So if we're talking football, I
• 40:02
  mean UNC is UNC. They've got they've got the
• 40:05
  Jordan brand, they've got basketball.
• 40:07
  They've got their a you status. That's going to help them in a
• 40:09
  Big Ten type negotiation but I don't think they really carry
• 40:13
  enough weight in terms of negotiation with the SEC.
• 40:17
  Especially since when you get a Virginia Tech because of where
• 40:21
  the alumni are, you're getting that that Nova, you're getting
• 40:26
  80 for and 757 but you're also getting A lot in the RDU area,
• 40:31
  you get a lot in the Charlotte area.
• 40:33
  We talked about it earlier, getting a lot in the Atlanta
• 40:35
  area. So we've got a presence pretty
• 40:39
  much up down. We talked about it wherever the
• 40:42
  Robbie throughout the 40 Corridor throughout the 85
• 40:45
  Corridor. Well, you know, up 95 towards
• 40:49
  the DC area, it's really, we've got that type of presence and we
• 40:53
  got that type of brand and travel that I think is going to
• 40:57
  help us long term, especially if we're talking as You see versus
• 41:00
  Big Ten, the third place team back in.
• 41:04
  When that thing was come out, it was Georgia Tech at 215 million,
• 41:09
  okay? Okay.
• 41:10
  And they probably probably suffered some hits since then as
• 41:13
  well, Dave, definitely suffered some head since then a couple of
• 41:18
  the ones we were like ahead of that kind of, you know, shocked
• 41:22
  me a little like, Kentucky being in the SEC.
• 41:25
  Having a superior, you know, an Elite basketball program being
• 41:29
  above Them. Especially, since Stoops has
• 41:31
  been there, really elevating their football program that kind
• 41:34
  of shocked me a little bit but let's let's let's flip a little
• 41:38
  bit here. Brian.
• 41:40
  Can we say who's really driving this?
• 41:43
  Who's really driving? Why these moves are being made,
• 41:47
  because I really don't think Greg Sankey or Kevin up in the
• 41:50
  Big Ten or the guys driving this.
• 41:52
  It's ESPN and Disney and it's Fox TV Executives.
• 41:57
  Now, they are driving this because they're pretty, they're
• 42:01
  presenting. Here's here's what could happen.
• 42:04
  If you, if you scoop up these two markets here's what can
• 42:08
  happen for you and then that's presented and then that's
• 42:11
  driving, everything else. Well, but but what did I say to
• 42:16
  you? Earlier on, if you take USC out
• 42:18
  of the Pac-12, their negotiations on their next TV
• 42:22
  dealer going to be significantly lower depth are going to be
• 42:26
  higher than what they were 11 years ago.
• 42:27
  But they're not going to be astronomically higher because
• 42:30
  you took the biggest brand. Fox and ESPN benefit off that
• 42:35
  and fox and ESPN, and also benefit off of.
• 42:39
  Yeah, you're adding USC, but we're already given you guys
• 42:42
  close to 50 million of Team. It might be worth, you know, an
• 42:46
  extra three or four million. It's not worth an extra x amount
• 42:50
  of dollars. It would be out if the Pac-12
• 42:53
  had them. Yeah.
• 42:54
  Yeah. They're coming out better on
• 42:57
  their end in terms of net between the two TV deals.
• 43:00
  Yes. Yeah.
• 43:01
  And you know you get a conference that gets into
• 43:06
  another Market. Just happens to be one of the
• 43:08
  largest markets in the country. They are already in.
• 43:12
  You just get to absorb it into your biggest contract instead of
• 43:15
  having to pay another substantial contract, that's
• 43:19
  where my mind is, even the Texas.
• 43:21
  Can Oklahoma thing that was ESPN's absorbing this into their
• 43:25
  biggest contract. Yeah.
• 43:28
  And you can say oh Texas can Oklahoma move the needle?
• 43:31
  Know they move the needle for the Big 12 they do.
• 43:33
  It's not going to. It's not going to bother this.
• 43:35
  It's not going to get the same type of bump in the SEC.
• 43:38
  Exactly the same type of bump in the big tent know, so whatever.
• 43:43
  They're bumping up on the SEC and Big 10 deals, it's getting
• 43:47
  dropped off on the other side. So exactly, it's just not,
• 43:52
  they're making more money off of it and that's where you can
• 43:55
  really see it driving now because the In is, if the pac-10
• 43:59
  of the Pac-12. They go ESPN's consolidating
• 44:03
  debt. Yep.
• 44:04
  That's exactly what they're doing.
• 44:06
  But if they keep these two conferences alive which now
• 44:10
  that's going to be a thing for ESPN to play because content is
• 44:14
  what drives them right. If they screw up and kill a
• 44:17
  conference, they're sort of killing themselves and people
• 44:21
  say well they have the big ones but you're still Killing Revenue
• 44:28
  in some way because and now at this point or that were they
• 44:31
  saying we've built such a monster where we can't show all
• 44:37
  the games we want to show, but now they are potentially
• 44:40
  diluting. What product is left because
• 44:45
  they might kill a conference and then those games matter less.
• 44:48
  So you know, it's definitely a risky move but I, you know, I
• 44:52
  think long term it's going to probably be Find for them
• 44:55
  because I don't think I think there's there's another in game
• 45:00
  that the conference's are playing with this.
• 45:04
  That we'll talk about here in a little bit.
• 45:07
  Yeah, big in games. Now, it came out today, the
• 45:10
  loose agreement between and bron bron allow Brian titling.
• 45:16
  This episode loose agreement, the loose agreement between
• 45:19
  discussion between the Pac-12 and the ACC.
• 45:24
  If you're the Pac-12 and if you're the ACC, do you almost
• 45:30
  just say effort. Let's let you know, use your
• 45:34
  brains would be as follows this would be your top 10 brands and
• 45:37
  this isn't to me, this is not a bad look.
• 45:41
  Virginia Tech, Clemson, Florida State, Miami Oregon, u-dub,
• 45:48
  Stanford, Arizona, State, and I'm going to give you tall
• 45:53
  because Utah's what they've done the last five years, going
• 45:55
  through a Rose Bowl. Yeah.
• 45:57
  That mean they've had they've had waves before too so that
• 46:00
  they're not exactly a you know a brand that nobody knows about
• 46:04
  but could those 10 teams carry a 28 2014.
• 46:11
  Conference Jesus Christ. Could that carry could you just
• 46:16
  say we're merging, we're going to have an east and west.
• 46:20
  We're gonna have a championship game.
• 46:21
  We're going to have some crumbs, we're going to have some
• 46:22
  cross-country rivalries. Could it I'll say this the Bold
• 46:27
  stroke of fully combining his no dumber than this loose
• 46:30
  partnership idea playing a championship game.
• 46:33
  So I mean if you're going to go all in go the fuck all in and
• 46:37
  make it so a it's harder for these teams individually to back
• 46:44
  out for some for greener pastures and number to get your
• 46:48
  media deal in place where Are you have that Juggernaut in
• 46:51
  place? Right?
• 46:52
  Because right now what the SEC and what the Big Ten have that,
• 46:56
  no other conference has is clout and firewalls.
• 47:02
  Yeah, they're not they're not going to get poached because of
• 47:05
  their clout and because of the firewalls that they have in
• 47:07
  place and that's why when we talked last year, about the Big
• 47:11
  Ten and the ACC and the Pac-12, you know, look them in the eye
• 47:18
  deal. Whatever the hell that shit was
• 47:20
  I'm telling you got to you got to know that the big Tim has the
• 47:26
  leverage in all of this shit like you're making the most
• 47:29
  money if you're not, if you're not putting something In writing
• 47:33
  ACC and Pac-12 about to get fucked and what happened?
• 47:36
  They got fucked. Yeah that they they they've been
• 47:39
  put on alert and now somebody's got to do something.
• 47:43
  So either either you're going to slowly watch your conference
• 47:47
  crumble true or going to get around the yeah, there's going
• 47:52
  to be a loophole in the in the grant of rights at some point.
• 47:55
  The grant of rights firewall is going to get busted or the eight
• 47:59
  or the, or the SEC or the Big Ten Or just going to say, Screw
• 48:04
  will for the next five years. We'll just eat the 70 million
• 48:09
  and they and and schools that already have the money to do
• 48:14
  some of this stuff. They know long term.
• 48:16
  They're going to come out better so they might whether two or
• 48:19
  three years of short-term pain. Well I'm looking at FSU in
• 48:22
  particular Well, because FS you can probably handle it.
• 48:28
  FSU. Well, I'm going to, I'm going to
• 48:30
  say this if you want me to be straight up with you.
• 48:32
  I mean this is also a move especially the Virginia Tech
• 48:38
  were to go to the Big Ten. This would be a move for, not
• 48:44
  only Athletics but academics. So the question is, would
• 48:48
  someone like Tim sayings? Be willing to go out there and
• 48:54
  say you know, we're going to do this move with it.
• 48:59
  And what we're going to do is we have an endowment, right?
• 49:04
  How much you think to Virginia Tech endowment is?
• 49:08
  I do not know you might look too close.
• 49:11
  It's almost okay, Billy. He might just say, we're just
• 49:15
  screw the grants of, right? We're going to, we're going to
• 49:17
  take care of ourselves because we're looking at this as a, not
• 49:21
  only a athletic move, but this is a massive move for our
• 49:25
  research University. To be partnered with the Big Ten
• 49:29
  school, right? Yeah.
• 49:33
  And the question is, how close are we to that AAU membership
• 49:36
  threshold? You know, it's mostly based on
• 49:40
  the research side of things, it's hard to get that threshold
• 49:45
  without a fully-fledged. Medical school, it's hard to.
• 49:51
  It's hard to get there just because of how much research is
• 49:53
  done on that side of the the aisle but it's definitely
• 49:58
  possible. There are several schools
• 50:01
  Georgia Tech for One. They don't have a medical school
• 50:04
  that that are a you schools, but again, that threshold is much
• 50:09
  harder to meet without that. That element how close we are.
• 50:13
  I could say, I know that was a goal of sayings when he took
• 50:17
  over was to get, Virginia Tech to AA you status, but we're not
• 50:23
  there and I don't know how close we are and I don't know if we've
• 50:26
  got enough time to get there before more of these dominoes
• 50:29
  start to fall. So, that will be, you know, some
• 50:33
  of, the more interesting things. We've already mentioned the
• 50:39
  firewall, the ACC does have the best, but I think eventually
• 50:42
  people get around it and or universities will just say we're
• 50:45
  going to eat it because long term, it's going to work for us.
• 50:49
  Yeah, of the other three conferences that are potentially
• 50:52
  getting poached ACC as the best firewall.
• 50:54
  But they also have the one that probably should get wrote.
• 51:00
  Somebody Yeah, exactly exactly. And you know packed will
• 51:07
  probably the most poachable because right now they've got a
• 51:11
  expiring, meteorites deal. So somewhere in the middle there
• 51:17
  is the Big 12 Yeah. Well the Big 12 had their big
• 51:22
  two coached I don't think anybody's poaching.
• 51:24
  Anybody out of the V12 yet. Not unless we're going unless
• 51:28
  they're going to 24. Alright, let's end it with this
• 51:33
  because we've already talked about what could happen to the
• 51:35
  ACC. Do you think the Hokies are safe
• 51:38
  one way or the other? I don't feel 100% safe just
• 51:47
  because I'm not sure if we're in a position where we're going to
• 51:52
  dictate the terms and be as proactive as we need to be to
• 51:57
  get this done. That's my concern.
• 51:59
  I'm not saying that with isn't capable, I'm saying, I don't
• 52:02
  know if you know, I think Whitney knows what needs.
• 52:05
  What needs to happen. I don't know if he can get us
• 52:08
  there. We'll see because there's a lot
• 52:12
  of moving Parts here. And I think he Ands that but I
• 52:15
  don't know if it comes down to the ACC isn't taking the steps
• 52:19
  we need to if he's going to push hard enough for that SEC offer.
• 52:24
  Yeah and I don't know if sayings is going to come off the money
• 52:27
  to take that. If granted right of Rights is
• 52:29
  still in place. So there's still those pieces in
• 52:32
  place that you know potentially could hamstring.
• 52:35
  I moved to the SEC and yeah, the fear is and I think long-term
• 52:43
  What's gonna devalue? Virginia Tech's brand more is
• 52:48
  not going to the SEC and having you know, a few years where
• 52:53
  we're only winning 45 games, what's going to devalue?
• 52:56
  Virginia Tech's brand is playing football.
• 52:59
  That doesn't fucking matter. So, we better not be in a
• 53:03
  situation where you get left behind.
• 53:05
  That's the big piece. It's the the getting left behind
• 53:09
  and that's where in this situation again, if if, if the
• 53:15
  acc's not trying to push buttons, trying to push hard to
• 53:18
  get, essentially, making itself not Untouchable, but one of
• 53:22
  those Conferences. Where you can't look away.
• 53:29
  That's, that's your issue, right?
• 53:31
  Yep. You don't want to be a
• 53:32
  conference that you can look away at.
• 53:36
  And right now like the big 12, think about it.
• 53:40
  You can look away. I don't think the Pac-12 there
• 53:44
  yet because I think the organ and govern a couple of those
• 53:46
  schools can still hold your. I also luckily you know, USC and
• 53:53
  UCLA have been just shit programs last five years, they
• 53:57
  haven't been that good. So I don't want to be in a
• 54:00
  situation where our biggest matchups of the year or Wake
• 54:03
  Forest in Boston, College and maybe pain.
• 54:06
  Oh no, that I don't want to be in that situation.
• 54:09
  That's not what I, that's not worth the price of admission, if
• 54:15
  we're not playing. Number one games, that matter
• 54:18
  against Regional opponents, consistently, I don't want it.
• 54:23
  If we're not playing for a conference Championship, that
• 54:30
  gives us the opportunity to make the college football playoff.
• 54:33
  I don't want it, I don't want conference games against ODU and
• 54:37
  Liberty and Potentially down the road.
• 54:40
  J mu. I don't want that.
• 54:43
  Virginia Tech needs to play major.
• 54:47
  College football, Virginia, Tech needs to play.
• 54:50
  Basically what we've dealt our whole entire fandom, starting in
• 54:54
  the early 1990s. Big Time games all year long and
• 55:01
  they have to make that decision right now between what Babcock
• 55:05
  sayings. And even Jim Phillips of how are
• 55:07
  you going to keep this thing going?
• 55:09
  And if you're Virginia Tech in the ACC is not moving, or
• 55:13
  they're moving at a slow pace, you just say screw it.
• 55:16
  All right? Well before we get into looking
• 55:19
  at the future ACC schedule, which might not be the future
• 55:22
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  episode. All right so before we actually
• 55:54
  hit the Schedule that was released which we've got our own
• 55:59
  feelings about there was an announcement.
• 56:01
  ACC headquarters is moving from Greensboro to Charlotte, they've
• 56:05
  committed 15 million bucks. Let's just keep it in,
• 56:09
  Greensboro and commit the 15 million dollars to actually grow
• 56:12
  in a conference and making sure you're alive in five years.
• 56:17
  Yeah, the hot, the hindsight of that.
• 56:19
  That move definitely is bad optics for sure.
• 56:23
  Well the only upside is now you're at least have a major
• 56:25
  Hub. You can fly.
• 56:26
  Hi in and out of your trying to get these deals done.
• 56:29
  There's your upside right there. All right.
• 56:31
  So Brian the big change and have been discussed and finally goes
• 56:36
  through. The ACC goes starting in 2023.
• 56:40
  So they really quick turnaround to a division 'less ACC.
• 56:47
  There is no definite Landing, there's no more Coastal.
• 56:50
  Praise the lord. We got rid of coastal.
• 56:58
  Rest in peace Coastal chaos that at that after that's after
• 57:05
  January or after dutremble yeah. Sorry.
• 57:08
  We're having we're having an early ready to send off party
• 57:11
  for the coastal chaos. We are currently in the wake of
• 57:14
  coastal chaos. With so but yeah, Coast.
• 57:17
  Okay up this year. But you know the Visions are
• 57:21
  gone which is great. And essentially the top two
• 57:24
  teams are going to play for the title which you've got to love
• 57:28
  because if you can remember, everybody put your hats on.
• 57:32
  If you can remember back in the early part of the ACC when
• 57:34
  Virginia Tech came on. There Will several years
• 57:37
  Virginia Tech was legitimately the second best team in the
• 57:39
  conference, but we didn't win the coastal so we didn't get to
• 57:42
  go play in the championship game.
• 57:46
  In the same way, in both couple years where like Miami was the
• 57:49
  second best, but we beat them, and we got to go.
• 57:53
  So I like that, just in general because you're likely going to
• 57:56
  get, you know, either a an unbeaten, a one loss.
• 58:00
  And at worst a to Lost team in the championship game, which is
• 58:05
  a pleasurable. Hopefully, the Hokies are there
• 58:08
  a lot pleasurable thing to happen.
• 58:13
  Yeah, I mean I like this better. You get, you get the two best.
• 58:15
  I think that's important. As you said we've had several
• 58:18
  years, especially early in the first, you know, seven to ten
• 58:23
  years at the Hokies were in the, in the conference where, you
• 58:27
  know, we were the, we were the second best team in the
• 58:29
  conference and sometimes didn't play for the championship.
• 58:34
  A lot of times, it takes that imbalance of the, of the
• 58:38
  divisions out of play. So I'm looking forward to that
• 58:43
  aspect of it. The matchups.
• 58:47
  There were some when there was some winds and some losses with
• 58:50
  it with those matchups though. Well, let's talk about the big
• 58:54
  win. The big win is literally every
• 58:57
  four years, you're going to play every team home in a way that
• 59:01
  every four years. So that means every basically,
• 59:06
  every other year were either getting Florida State, Clemson
• 59:09
  or Miami at home. Or Louisville at home, obviously
• 59:13
  UVA every other year that's the big benefit because we had not
• 59:19
  played Clemson. We haven't been to Death Valley
• 59:22
  since 06 or 07, was it, 07 the year?
• 59:26
  Just we scored like nine different ways and they're still
• 59:30
  trying to figure out what happened.
• 59:32
  They're still running down the hill.
• 59:33
  The wrong way? Yeah, we only played them at
• 59:36
  home. What once?
• 59:39
  Twice twice. I don't think I think twice 11
• 59:43
  and 17 or 16. That sounds right now.
• 59:50
  Every other year Florida State similar, And what does that do?
• 59:56
  Well for the ACC that gives you your Prime Brands playing each
• 1:00:00
  other all the time. Every year you get to Circle
• 1:00:03
  matchups for Virginia Tech fans. It's every year there is going
• 1:00:08
  to be a massive, massive gain on campus Which that's, I mean,
• 1:00:14
  that in itself is a big deal because it's really going to be
• 1:00:18
  a sellout, which, you know, for years.
• 1:00:21
  It was, but you're going to have more eyes on Virginia Tech than
• 1:00:27
  a normal week, because let's be honest, playing, not knocking,
• 1:00:31
  but playing Georgia. Tech the first weekend in
• 1:00:33
  October at home versus playing Florida.
• 1:00:36
  State is a hell of a lot of difference.
• 1:00:39
  Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
• 1:00:43
  But I'm looking forward to some of these, especially getting
• 1:00:46
  getting to see teams every other year.
• 1:00:51
  That's big. That's big because that that,
• 1:00:53
  that hammers home, you know, the whole, the market play that
• 1:00:56
  we're talking about when you have divisions, a lot of times,
• 1:00:59
  you know, you when you try to recruit within that footprint.
• 1:01:03
  Yeah. Okay.
• 1:01:04
  They're on our schedule with their, on our schedule.
• 1:01:06
  Maybe sometimes once in a in a recruit's entire time on campus.
• 1:01:14
  Like, yeah, that make that make some of that a little bit
• 1:01:17
  difficult, especially for those, those cross division opponents,
• 1:01:21
  whether it be Clemson. I know Louisville, we had a big
• 1:01:24
  span where we didn't play them. And they still haven't come to
• 1:01:29
  Blacksburg, have they? I don't think so.
• 1:01:33
  They're back on coded year, but they have not come to Blacksburg
• 1:01:36
  and Syracuse first time coming to Blacksburg was back in 21.
• 1:01:41
  Yeah, I mean, that's asinine, that's asinine and that goes
• 1:01:44
  away. Thank God.
• 1:01:45
  But let's go to the one. Everybody wants to talk about
• 1:01:50
  the Lock 3, the lock, you know, block 3 and I think we all
• 1:01:57
  anticipated UVA. I think we all did.
• 1:02:01
  We knew? We were getting UVA.
• 1:02:03
  We thought we were getting someone else that we didn't get
• 1:02:07
  and thankfully we didn't get somebody that we thought we
• 1:02:09
  might get, we didn't get Miami, instead we get pit.
• 1:02:15
  Um-hmm. And then instead of BC we got
• 1:02:20
  wait. So, as far as traveling for your
• 1:02:24
  every three-year game, you don't have to travel that far.
• 1:02:28
  But let me press this question to you, Brian.
• 1:02:31
  Do you think that we stood on the table so hard that we're not
• 1:02:35
  playing BC every year anymore? They jerk.
• 1:02:37
  Miami away from us. Like, I don't, I think that was
• 1:02:40
  the devil's bargain. I think, I think we said we're
• 1:02:43
  not playing BC every year and they said, all right, you're not
• 1:02:46
  getting Miami. Okay, hold on.
• 1:02:48
  Or did the person at the ACC office?
• 1:02:51
  Go on a bender in, screw up, Louisville and hours.
• 1:02:55
  Because if you look at theirs I mean that's yeah.
• 1:02:59
  GT Miami UVA? Yeah, I mean that does sound
• 1:03:02
  like slightly more more VT aligned than then what we got.
• 1:03:09
  I mean you know you get You get your, you get your home state
• 1:03:14
  route with what we got to get your home state rival.
• 1:03:17
  You technically get your closest ACC opponent and then you get a
• 1:03:22
  former Big East opponent on it and then you'd so.
• 1:03:27
  And then and the closest, former Big East opponent, you get, and
• 1:03:31
  you get for a time there in the early 2000s, miss you thousands
• 1:03:34
  probably one of the better ACC One of the better ACC rivalries
• 1:03:41
  was the tech tech rivalry really from the early 2000s.
• 1:03:45
  You're okay with it, but wake should be Miami.
• 1:03:49
  Listen, everybody had to lay on the sword somewhere.
• 1:03:51
  The other. Well, maybe with the yeah, you
• 1:03:55
  know. But for Florida State got this
• 1:03:58
  one in there. We're getting there.
• 1:04:03
  Controversial opinion, that some people would at you hard.
• 1:04:07
  When you basically said, And say it.
• 1:04:11
  If it took losing Miami to get BC off our every year schedule,
• 1:04:16
  it was worth. So be it.
• 1:04:18
  We will still play. Be who will still playing Miami
• 1:04:22
  2 out of every four and I'll tell you why I'll tell you why.
• 1:04:25
  So number and it's not just I want to avoid a tougher
• 1:04:29
  opponent. But when you, when you look at
• 1:04:34
  the games with BC, getting rid of BC is more important because
• 1:04:38
  be C is a zero benefit game for Virginia Tech.
• 1:04:45
  It's a big travel game. Whether you know, whether we're
• 1:04:49
  going to play or they're coming us, it's a big travel.
• 1:04:53
  And it's a game that for Virginia Tech.
• 1:04:56
  If we win it, we were supposed to, and if we lose it, we're
• 1:05:00
  ass. It's not a game is that same
• 1:05:05
  with wait. But we're not traveling seven at
• 1:05:09
  78 hours to do that. We're going an hour and a half
• 1:05:14
  on a bus. Okay, but it's still a loss to a
• 1:05:21
  lesser opponent. I mean Bond.
• 1:05:23
  And Brian says, he doesn't care travel, but I think the other
• 1:05:27
  point we were talking about the other thing about playing and
• 1:05:29
  wake is where you're playing in a prime recruiting ground that
• 1:05:33
  you can get kids from the 336 from the Charlotte area.
• 1:05:38
  And you can get them to come to that home game or that away
• 1:05:41
  game, which is going to be the honest.
• 1:05:43
  Truth is the first away game at wake.
• 1:05:46
  It's going to be about 40% maroon and orange.
• 1:05:49
  JH that we guarding use that. That's probably I think wasted
• 1:05:52
  on the table for us, because I think waiting you that if they
• 1:05:55
  could get Virginia Tech, they would have one game.
• 1:05:58
  Every two years that they were get full capacity, they were
• 1:06:01
  going to make a boatload of money, all that game, because
• 1:06:04
  they knew where they're located, a ton of hokey fans will go to
• 1:06:09
  that game because it's going to be reasonably priced tickets.
• 1:06:11
  Easy to get in easy to get out. It's the one game like when they
• 1:06:16
  play in Sea state, It's probably the only other consistent game
• 1:06:21
  that they play that they can pack the stadium like that.
• 1:06:25
  Yeah, unless they're playing like a ranked opponent like
• 1:06:28
  Clemson or something like that. Yeah, 100 buddy, but in terms of
• 1:06:32
  throat, rankings at the window, throw, whatever the current
• 1:06:35
  records are out the window, Virginia Tech when they play
• 1:06:38
  Wake, they're going to pack that stadium.
• 1:06:39
  And when NC State plays wake, they're going to pack that state
• 1:06:43
  true. I'm seeing Robbie put in here.
• 1:06:46
  He'd rather have the recruiting area and I mean we're going to
• 1:06:48
  be in Florida twice, we're going to be in Florida every year
• 1:06:51
  anyway, so between Florida State and Miami.
• 1:06:54
  So That is what it is. They're all right.
• 1:06:57
  So who do you think got screwed? In this scenario.
• 1:07:04
  Florida State. I know I talked about earlier,
• 1:07:05
  but they got the shaft buddy, Florida State out there, playing
• 1:07:09
  Clemson, Miami, and having to go to the Carrier Dome.
• 1:07:12
  Every other fucking year is bananas.
• 1:07:16
  I mean, is this just like a way they're going to keep Florida
• 1:07:19
  State down. Like, you guys are never going
• 1:07:21
  to come back. We're going to we're going to
• 1:07:23
  give you pay just as just as Miami might be back with crystal
• 1:07:27
  ball and you get, you get that, you get Clemson and then you get
• 1:07:32
  to go. The Carrier Dome every other
• 1:07:34
  year which holy hey every one of those ranked teams lose in the
• 1:07:39
  Carrier Dome Clemson loss in the Carrier Dome during one of their
• 1:07:43
  playoff run years. Let's say we took a shit in the
• 1:07:46
  Carrier Dome. We can 2016 and years before
• 1:07:51
  that that place is just terrible to play in but you know, you
• 1:07:55
  know, who else? I think kind of got a little
• 1:07:57
  shafted. Was Miami because they Pawn
• 1:08:02
  Boston College off on my hey, hey you that's cool furthest
• 1:08:10
  south. We're going to send you furthest
• 1:08:11
  North in the conference And and same rules apply to them.
• 1:08:18
  It's a game that they get all that travel in and if they win
• 1:08:22
  they were supposed to and if they lose they shit the bed.
• 1:08:25
  Best part. Here's the best part about it.
• 1:08:27
  Miami is going to become the red bandana game for PC, right?
• 1:08:32
  That market down right now, Miami will become the red
• 1:08:35
  bandana game or BC every year the so on a Friday night when
• 1:08:41
  they actually get 80% of the stadium to turn out.
• 1:08:45
  And the crowd is electric. Hey, here comes my hammy in.
• 1:08:48
  There are 14 hour flight from South Florida.
• 1:08:54
  So, you know, I think they got screwed just as much, but look
• 1:08:57
  at it. The rest.
• 1:08:58
  The rest is pretty regionally balanced.
• 1:09:01
  They really took care of the Carolina schools.
• 1:09:04
  Just, you know, I mean, North Carolina literary.
• 1:09:07
  I'm shot there. Well, actually do got even
• 1:09:13
  better, dude. Literally doesn't have Leave the
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  state North Carolina's. First trip, is up to UVA, so,
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  but overall, you look at it, they kept, it kind of regional,
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  they kept the northern teams all together.
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  And as much as we want to get upset, Braun, you know, I don't
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  think anybody else got truly screwed.
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  It's either. OK.
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  Or best like, it's us. It's a push.
• 1:09:41
  Oh man. But Do you feel like anybody got
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  truly rewarded? Like hey, here you go.
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  I mean, maybe Duke is really the only one who can really say just
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  because they are sticking 100% in state, with their, it's Duke,
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  but it's Duke. I mean, I don't know if that's
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  going to really, really matter. I think BBC kind of got fucked a
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  little bit of as well for for talking about another third, if
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  you want to put in there with Miami Pitt and Syracuse that's
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  its regionally. Okay with them other than Miami
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  but it's still, that's a bad draw for a middle-of-the-road.
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  ACC team. You're supposed to beat
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  Syracuse. When you go to the Carrier Dome,
• 1:10:32
  we supposed to compete with pit and lose to Miami.
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  Yep. In Reality is they're going to
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  probably lose more than a few games in the Carrier Dome there.
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  Lose one of the few in the Carrier Dome and they're
• 1:10:42
  probably going to lose most of those to Miami.
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  So yeah. So I mean you could make the
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  argument that Maybe UNC got favorable because they got Duke
• 1:10:57
  instead of wait and you know, they'll get there, they got the
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  whole thing is, how many times did they played State?
• 1:11:10
  It's like they played State. It's so few is so fuse
• 1:11:13
  considering how close they are, how close they are.
• 1:11:16
  Now the bigger issue with the bigger issue with Carolina
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  playing state is State, probably going to wax them more in a few
• 1:11:24
  times because obviously So, I hope you might even say hi.
• 1:11:29
  See, I open sea State. Puts puts the fucking screws to
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  him. Well, I hope everybody can put
• 1:11:34
  the screws to them. All right, let's look here on,
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  future schedules. We looked at 23, 24, 25 and 26,
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  and there is one scheduled that just it.
• 1:11:45
  Let me and Brian's eyes up. And if you are there, go to the
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  ACC page and go look at 2024. Because man, I mean so you get
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  Clemson at home. Awesome.
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  We at Louis Vuitton, which I was kind of hoping we'd get
• 1:12:05
  Louisville instead of pit because at least their fan base,
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  you know, they actually have a living breathing fan base.
• 1:12:13
  We would go to their games, their side sparsely is like, you
• 1:12:16
  know, exactly, third filled in the hind Stadium.
• 1:12:21
  Yep. So Georgia, Tech Commonwealth
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  Compass at home that day at year.
• 1:12:26
  And then, even though these aren't the most exciting Road
• 1:12:29
  games, Duke-carolina pit and Wake Forest.
• 1:12:33
  If you are a Virginia Tech fan. If you want to purchase all ACC
• 1:12:38
  games this year, you would not have to step on a plane to go to
• 1:12:42
  those games. Then you're getting the biggest
• 1:12:45
  dog at home. I would love to see when that
• 1:12:49
  game is going to be. But that's like that's what
• 1:12:54
  we're talking about. You get Clemson at home in 2024.
• 1:12:57
  It's also going to be year three of prai or we should start
• 1:13:00
  seeing some Corner get turned. Yeah.
• 1:13:03
  So I mean with that with the combination of it, somewhat weak
• 1:13:09
  and Regional away schedule. You get Clemson to where you can
• 1:13:14
  showcase, what you got, you get UVA at home and your next
• 1:13:18
  toughest competition in the home schedule.
• 1:13:20
  Is Louisville. That's going to be a year where
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  if the Hokies can turn a turn a corner.
• 1:13:28
  They've got some potential to to really get, you know, plus 8
• 1:13:33
  plus 9 potentially 10 wins that year.
• 1:13:38
  Yeah. And that's the biggie but then
• 1:13:41
  you like look at like 20 25, we're getting Florida State at
• 1:13:44
  home and we're on the road in Miami.
• 1:13:47
  Yep. 20:26 and NC State. Yeah.
• 1:13:50
  And NC State Miami at home Clemson on the road.
• 1:13:56
  And this is really why it was done because If you take a look
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  at some of these schedules and you know look it like let's look
• 1:14:06
  at 20 25 again and let's look at Florida State.
• 1:14:08
  They're playing Miami. They play Clemson.
• 1:14:11
  We know and they play us. Those that's three massive
• 1:14:15
  matchups and we looked at ours already for 25 words, Florida
• 1:14:18
  State and Miami and NC State on the road.
• 1:14:22
  What you're doing is for the ACC when they do that schedule, you
• 1:14:27
  could literally schedule a significantly big matchup every
• 1:14:31
  single week all throughout the year and put your biggest fans
• 1:14:35
  in the best spots in spotlights. Put your best traditions in
• 1:14:40
  spotlights, but your best stadiums and spotlights, that's
• 1:14:43
  Why this was done, that's why it was done because you because you
• 1:14:47
  because you know, we saw what was it, 16 we played Clemson
• 1:14:51
  that game pulled like a 396, so almost four million people.
• 1:14:55
  Watch that game. And for an ACC team, that's
• 1:15:00
  huge. You know the SEC usually pulls
• 1:15:04
  about six and a half on Saturday, afternoons to say
• 1:15:07
  you're pulling for that's that's a massive number.
• 1:15:11
  And now you're saying you're putting all these programs and I
• 1:15:14
  think that's why we were left out Because I think they know we
• 1:15:18
  draw eyes and if you leave Miami off our schedule, Clemson
• 1:15:22
  Florida, State and Miami are going to be constantly every
• 1:15:25
  year and usually there's going to be two a year. for one of the
• 1:15:30
  most passionate fan bases to play one of the biggest
• 1:15:32
  opponents, very true head throat.
• 1:15:37
  Very sure through. That was one of our Facebook.
• 1:15:42
  Watchers tonight. Jacob.
• 1:15:43
  Uh, shoutout. Yeah, and we had talked about
• 1:15:46
  that when we were going through because we said the out of
• 1:15:49
  conference lined up, pretty nicely to because the two
• 1:15:51
  toughest out of conferences were at home as well.
• 1:15:55
  That year. So it does, it does line up Yeah
• 1:16:06
  that's going to be on at home and then it's Vandy and
• 1:16:14
  Nashville ODU and significantly favorable that if you know 2024
• 1:16:25
  could be a really big building year but let's talk about this.
• 1:16:29
  What do you think? I've given you my opinion.
• 1:16:32
  What do you think this means for Hoagie football and and the prai
• 1:16:35
  ERA with this change? I think it's good because again,
• 1:16:39
  you talking about getting games in the footprint more
• 1:16:43
  consistently, I think it's going to be a good recruiting tool.
• 1:16:45
  I think it's going to be good to not have to play the same
• 1:16:50
  opponents as many same opponents every year that's going to help
• 1:16:56
  with you know in terms of scouting and things like that.
• 1:16:58
  It's going to be a little bit harder for for folks to get a
• 1:17:02
  hold on what Virginia Tech's trying to do.
• 1:17:04
  So coaching will definitely separate the cream and I think
• 1:17:08
  we got a good a good set of guys on that front at this point.
• 1:17:11
  So and I think the way that the schedule is lining up especially
• 1:17:15
  for 2024 is really going to benefit that kind of turning
• 1:17:20
  point for prize he's getting his guys in as he's gotten the Guys
• 1:17:25
  are already on campus establishing the system, they
• 1:17:28
  know the ins and outs. They know how to kind of run it
• 1:17:31
  like clockwork, right? So that's going to be that
• 1:17:34
  Turning Point year. I feel like and it comes a time
• 1:17:38
  where our schedule is lining up to not only have some some good
• 1:17:42
  Marquee matchups but also in terms of travel and strength to
• 1:17:47
  beat to be somewhat favorable as well.
• 1:17:50
  It's very true. And you know, something else, I
• 1:17:52
  was just thinking about here 2024 because of the weird years
• 1:17:57
  of the covid years, you know, still going to be eligible.
• 1:18:01
  There's a parent Wells. Hey, potentially a three-year
• 1:18:08
  starting quarterback in the year, where everything's
• 1:18:11
  implemented a guy, who's shown some promise.
• 1:18:13
  Now we should have more guys to throw the ball to buy them to.
• 1:18:17
  Hello? I'm will go but my hope is Grant
• 1:18:19
  Wilson. The quarterback in 2024 if he
• 1:18:22
  just lit it up in 2023 and we want 11 games a year ahead of
• 1:18:25
  schedule. All right, so the portal, no one
• 1:18:32
  else has left. No one else has entered.
• 1:18:34
  There's a lot of kids out there again.
• 1:18:35
  I feel sorry for them. If you have not The Hardy would
• 1:18:41
  Virginia Tech tailgate event is 11 days away. 20 bucks for a
• 1:18:47
  ticket. I'm not sure if they're still on
• 1:18:49
  sale or not. I would have said they were the
• 1:18:51
  last time I checked, but, you know, I don't know if they've
• 1:18:54
  gotten to a Full House here or not but they were talking about
• 1:18:57
  selling. They were talking about selling
• 1:18:59
  tickets on day of events. I don't I don't think wherever
• 1:19:02
  they're having at this time, like, a capacity thing.
• 1:19:04
  You don't have a limitation for can, I mean me and you go there,
• 1:19:08
  we've been there. Brian.
• 1:19:09
  There is no limitation, you get 6,000 people as big as an area
• 1:19:13
  that is, I don't know whether going to park everybody.
• 1:19:15
  But hey, if you work that out, when, you know, we'll get there
• 1:19:19
  early get there, really early. Speaking of, I've got to have a
• 1:19:22
  couple beers hit the food trucks early.
• 1:19:27
  I can tell you 20 bucks is pretty much the price of a beer.
• 1:19:30
  They're usually get a 16 oz usually somewhere between six
• 1:19:33
  and eight bucks. You leave a tip.
• 1:19:36
  The beer itself is worth the $20.
• 1:19:40
  All the other stuff is a lot of fun.
• 1:19:42
  Also, before we wrap up here, you get snacks, and you get to
• 1:19:45
  hear some coaches and potentially some players, talk
• 1:19:49
  about some football and so in a very good chance to meet them
• 1:19:53
  and interact with these guys up front.
• 1:19:55
  That's usually a lot of the hockey club events you pay that
• 1:19:58
  money. You get the interaction.
• 1:19:59
  And as we've seen, Brent price and some of this other staff, I
• 1:20:03
  had a feeling. If you walk up at them, start a
• 1:20:04
  conversation they would Carry it on with you.
• 1:20:08
  So that's awesome. Now one last piece of
• 1:20:12
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• 1:20:16
  a few days ago, our Twitter account, boundary Corner, hit,
• 1:20:19
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• 1:20:26
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• 1:20:29
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• 1:20:35
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• 1:20:36
  I never thought we'd get as many listens as we've gotten or this
• 1:20:41
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• 1:20:48
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• 1:21:00
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• 1:21:06
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• 1:21:09
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• 1:21:12
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• 1:21:19
  nation, made some new friends, had some good laughs and really
• 1:21:25
  looking forward. Hopefully this year, getting
• 1:21:27
  back in the stadium. I don't have a small small
• 1:21:31
  child. Yeah.
• 1:21:35
  Well different when you got a small small child.
• 1:21:37
  But yeah, but we really appreciate you guys again.
• 1:21:40
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• 1:21:56
  we'll throw it up there and we'll talk about it.
• 1:21:59
  All right? Brian is anything happened to
• 1:22:01
  the ACC in the Pac-12 merged where we have to gnaw and
• 1:22:08
  hopefully hopefully the Big 12 does approach those 16 they were
• 1:22:11
  talking about out, the gate from the Pac-12 or the loose
• 1:22:14
  partnership is always already is Already.
• 1:22:17
  You know folding that I yeah I think we're good to go.
• 1:22:22
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• 1:22:23
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