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Skyler Conder and Shane Lyons: Varials · The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine

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  Speaker 1: Like that right outside.
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  Speaker 2: Why today we've got Skyler from Verriols super excited to
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  Speaker 2: chat with you.
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  Speaker 3: Skyler.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously, Uh, for those that don't know, you're the
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  Speaker 2: brand new member of Rials, uh, you know, Screaming now
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  Speaker 2: and I'm just super excited to chat about the album.
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  Speaker 2: I was listening to a little bit of it today
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  Speaker 2: and I'm just really stoked about it. It's just it's
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  Speaker 2: so heavy, it's you know, it's all the things that
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  Speaker 2: Verrioals always has done really well and more.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just really stoked about it.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll talk obviously all about the new music. But
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  Speaker 2: before we dive into that, how are.
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  Speaker 3: You doing today, Scalar good Man?
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  Speaker 4: How are you doing?
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  Speaker 3: Just fine? Just just another day.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, I live in Minneapolis or the Twin Cities, so
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  Speaker 2: it's it's been a little kind of lately, but but yeah,
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  Speaker 2: just a nice winter day right now. So yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: work from home typically, so it's just a nice, uh,
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  Speaker 2: nice chill friday.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're working from home. Is very very niceome sh.
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  Speaker 3: It's great, It's really great.
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  Speaker 2: So well, h let's talk about just your journey of music. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: you you don't have really much history with Varios. You
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  Speaker 2: know your you're brand new for the most part. I
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  Speaker 2: know you said just a bit ago that you've been
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  Speaker 2: kind of in the band for about a year year
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  Speaker 2: and a half but officially have been announced for a
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  Speaker 2: few months now, but so you know, you haven't spent
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  Speaker 2: a ton of time with arials. But yeah, I love
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  Speaker 2: to just here just what kind of got you into
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  Speaker 2: music to begin with, Like what were some of those
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  Speaker 2: first early music memories for you that maybe maybe eventually
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  Speaker 2: inspired you to want to become a musician.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Man, so my like growing up obviously, like my mom
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  Speaker 5: like would always like have certain like bands playing on
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  Speaker 5: the radio.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot of Lincoln Park Biscuit.
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  Speaker 3: Your mom like Parking Biscuit.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, she was.
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  Speaker 4: She was super super big into it.
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  Speaker 5: So that kind of like into like I've always been
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  Speaker 5: driven to like heavier music like typically because that's like
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  Speaker 5: what was like kind of engraved into my brain at
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  Speaker 5: a young age.
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  Speaker 4: Oh there is so dude.
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  Speaker 6: Sorry I'm the late.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah go ahead and go ahead, go ahead.
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  Speaker 5: Uh but and yeah, so Lincoln Park one Biscuit that
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  Speaker 5: was like first two like main bands that were like
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  Speaker 5: engraved into my brain as a young kid.
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  Speaker 4: And then I remember my cousin showed me pray for place.
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  Speaker 5: Bring me there, and I was like, I want to
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  Speaker 5: learn how to make noises like that. Yeah, So I
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  Speaker 5: started watching like a bunch of YouTube videos is Zo screaming,
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  Speaker 5: you know, people just like doing like vocal lessons like
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  Speaker 5: in videos and stuff, and just over time like started
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  Speaker 5: learning how to like train my voice to do that.
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  Speaker 5: I would practice like vocals to a lot of like
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  Speaker 5: last and seconds of wife Chelsea Grinn.
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  Speaker 4: I was pretty driven into death core. That was excuse me.
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  Speaker 5: Uh that was where like my my brain really really
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  Speaker 5: liked to go when I was like learning how to
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  Speaker 5: be a vocal, like getting into heavy music. And then
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  Speaker 5: from there I started like bands when I was younger,
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  Speaker 5: playing a band called omen A while ago. That was
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  Speaker 5: probably like through like middle school and high school. I
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  Speaker 5: think I started when I was like fourteen or fifteen,
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  Speaker 5: which Varials played with back in the day.
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  Speaker 4: That was like how I met all of them. And
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  Speaker 4: then I.
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  Speaker 5: Started a band called Cell and that was just like
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  Speaker 5: a little side project. Deal got pretty active, like touring
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  Speaker 5: wise and stuff like that, and funny enough, before Cell
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  Speaker 5: had started, I worked with Varios previous. Uh so the
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  Speaker 5: album I was doing before was Scars. I did, like
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  Speaker 5: I want to say, like seventy five percent of it,
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  Speaker 5: but it just ended up not working out, just because
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  Speaker 5: like where my life was at the time and whatnot.
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  Speaker 5: Started touring with Sell full time, probably like a year
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  Speaker 5: or two after that, and then called me and needed
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  Speaker 5: to come fill in for a couple of tours and
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  Speaker 5: then got the official as when.
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  Speaker 2: You say that you were doing some work with Scars,
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  Speaker 2: like like how when what capacity were you?
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  Speaker 5: Like, so I had like after Travis had quit, they
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  Speaker 5: hit me up. Sean initially hit me up, asked if
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  Speaker 5: I would be interested in trying out. I said, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I flew out to Philly. I think I demoed I
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  Speaker 5: can't remember if any of the songs that I demoed
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  Speaker 5: made the record, but demoed some of the various songs
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  Speaker 5: that they had, and then I got the official spot
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  Speaker 5: but and went to the studio and was recording Scars.
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  Speaker 5: So I before Mitch did that album, I had done
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  Speaker 5: seventy five percent of it. Yeah, yeah, Like just where
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  Speaker 5: my life was at the time, I was going through
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  Speaker 5: like a pretty heavy like family loss, like just a
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  Speaker 5: bunch of like crazy stuff. So it was just like
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  Speaker 5: not worth it. And I just I couldn't make it
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  Speaker 5: happen at the time. But we have gone back and
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  Speaker 5: talked about that previously, and it's kind of funny because
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  Speaker 5: I'm I've always been when it was like super big.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like everything happens for a reason, and I think
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  Speaker 5: this is like definitely one of those moments for all
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  Speaker 5: of us, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: That's cool.
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  Speaker 2: So we also have Shane with us, and so yeah, Shane,
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  Speaker 2: I'd love to hear just kind of like how you
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  Speaker 2: before even Viariols, like how did you get into music? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like what what really inspired you? I know you've been
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  Speaker 2: kind of a long time member for the most part
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  Speaker 2: with Burials, but yeah, what what what what inspired you
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  Speaker 2: to get into this kind of music to begin with.
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  Speaker 6: I'm trying to like think about like what like brought
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  Speaker 6: me to heavy music, and I think it's like Meteor
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  Speaker 6: from link In Park was like a record that I remember.
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  Speaker 6: I would I played hockey growing up and I would
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  Speaker 6: drive to hockey practice with this family and they had
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  Speaker 6: Meteora in the car and I wasn't exposed to that
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  Speaker 6: music ever before, but they would like play the songs,
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  Speaker 6: you know what I mean, Like what was the song
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  Speaker 6: on Meteors like in the end was like the big
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  Speaker 6: radio here, but.
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  Speaker 7: Then they was like numb and like I think is
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  Speaker 7: it like yeah, nomah Faint was one of like the
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  Speaker 7: radio songs and but there was like the deep cuts
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  Speaker 7: where it was like this is like really aggressive and
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  Speaker 7: and like mean sounding, and I was like didn't quite
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  Speaker 7: not to like dive into that.
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  Speaker 6: I think another band funnily enough with like a word
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  Speaker 6: great sound that like their radio songs are you know,
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  Speaker 6: they're big songs for a reason. But Creed Creed, uh
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  Speaker 6: like Mark Tremonti from Creed is due. He's a great shutter,
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  Speaker 6: but he's got he's got riffs that are like kind
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  Speaker 6: of like pissed off. Like like it was like the
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  Speaker 6: beginnings of like why is this music sounds so like
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  Speaker 6: angry and like I liked it, like how it made
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  Speaker 6: me feelt it made me feel sorry, and uh a
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  Speaker 6: couple a couple of years down the line of like
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  Speaker 6: like hearing like slip Knot and stuff like that, like
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  Speaker 6: oh so not super heavy. And then I you know,
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  Speaker 6: got a computer and like on Lime Wire, I would
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  Speaker 6: take in like metal or something stupid and so funny,
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  Speaker 6: like my music taste with heavy music has been such
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  Speaker 6: like a ebb and flow of like different things. But
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  Speaker 6: bornabas Arius The New Rain, it was like break down,
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  Speaker 6: like just break down from start to finish. And I
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  Speaker 6: thought that was like insane that bands could just like
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  Speaker 6: chug you know what I mean. Vail Amaya, I think
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  Speaker 6: was a big inspiration. And I initially started heavy music
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  Speaker 6: is like I want to play like hard like I
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  Speaker 6: want to be good at guitar and like play heavy music.
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  Speaker 6: But I was never good enough to be playing that
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  Speaker 6: type of stuff, so I graduated. I gravitated more towards
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  Speaker 6: like the heavy ger parts of bands like that. And
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  Speaker 6: I think my my journey with music that and has
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  Speaker 6: inspired burials, you know, like just being around hardcore shows
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  Speaker 6: and seeing bands like Jesus Peace play around Philly. I
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  Speaker 6: like the like the live like the way that people
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  Speaker 6: participate live with the music. It has been like the
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  Speaker 6: the main thing. Also like what I've come to like
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  Speaker 6: really love about the music past past, like the actual
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  Speaker 6: like how it sounds, you know what I mean? For sure?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean hardcore is like ruined concerts for me,
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  Speaker 2: Like it's so hard to go to like some big
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  Speaker 2: stadium concert of some big band because like you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm used to paying fifteen dollars and feeling like I
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  Speaker 2: can be on stage.
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  Speaker 6: And yes, it's.
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  Speaker 3: Just not how most concerts are.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I think that's kind of what that like
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  Speaker 6: seeing a room pop is like, that's kind of like
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  Speaker 6: the end like inspiration for Burials, I guess as a
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  Speaker 6: heavy band, it really boils down to that, like how
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  Speaker 6: people can participate with it and connect with it and
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  Speaker 6: move around dance and there's all these different genres of
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  Speaker 6: music like m like people go to dance to that
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  Speaker 6: hip hop right go and like dance at the club,
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  Speaker 6: and it's just like like we have our own little
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  Speaker 6: world ye with heavy and people can go to you
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  Speaker 6: know those show and dance and jump off the stage
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  Speaker 6: and all that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, one thing that you know, when I when I
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  Speaker 2: look back to your guys's history, you start you get
• 10:14
  Speaker 2: started kind of at like an interesting point in heavy
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  Speaker 2: music history, or at least from my perspective. Colin and
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  Speaker 2: I Culin is my my friend, and he's not able
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  Speaker 2: to join right now for this interview, But we grew
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  Speaker 2: up super into solid state bands, you know, like Norma Jean,
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  Speaker 2: under Oath, all those types of solid state bands. And
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  Speaker 2: around that time of like to you know, maybe kind
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  Speaker 2: of mid twenty tens, maybe even early twenty tens, both
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  Speaker 2: him and I really kind of actually gravitated away from
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  Speaker 2: a lot of heavy music. It just felt like.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of those bands were either.
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  Speaker 2: Going on hiatus, uh either maybe even breaking up like
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  Speaker 2: an under oath case. But yeah, a lot of those
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  Speaker 2: bands just kind of fell off the map for a
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  Speaker 2: little while, and it felt like a lot of like metalcore, hardcore,
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  Speaker 2: just heavy music was kind of like just sort of
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  Speaker 2: lost a little bit of its lesser that it had
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  Speaker 2: in the you know, early mid two thousands. And I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, like, but you guys start around that time,
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  Speaker 2: like that that's the time that you enter in the picture.
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  Speaker 2: And what's interesting is like I also look at some
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  Speaker 2: of the other really successful heavy bands that are huge
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  Speaker 2: right now, I mean massive bands like Knock Loose for example,
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  Speaker 2: Like that's kind of around the time that they started
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  Speaker 2: as well, And so there is something to be said
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  Speaker 2: about like you guys probably started and I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if your experience was like this where it felt like, wow,
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  Speaker 2: these are just tiny shows, and like the heavy music
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  Speaker 2: industry just isn't like what it used to be like
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  Speaker 2: maybe that's what it felt like or not. But the
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  Speaker 2: fact that you guys have like stayed, you know, you
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  Speaker 2: have stanned the test of time, like you've worked at it,
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  Speaker 2: you slugged it out, and here you are now, like
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  Speaker 2: you all are doing really successful stuff. You're you're on
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  Speaker 2: your what is it fifth album now?
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  Speaker 3: Fourth album?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, including the EPs so and you're still you're
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  Speaker 2: still doing great tours. And I don't know there, I
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  Speaker 2: know there wasn't really a particular question there, but I
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  Speaker 2: don't know just when you think of this historically, around
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: the time that you guys get started to where you're
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  Speaker 2: at now twelve thirteen years later, Yeah, how do you
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  Speaker 2: kind of see like what was it like then? What
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  Speaker 2: does it feel like it's now? Yeah, especially when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to heavy music.
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  Speaker 6: Do you want me to answer this guy?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: All since I started with the band. It's funny you
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  Speaker 6: bring up like that, like under Oath thing and the
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  Speaker 6: Norman Jene thing. I'm a casual Norman Jean fan. I
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  Speaker 6: like the one song where gas and in it, you
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  Speaker 6: know what I'm talking about, Memphis Will be Laid the
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  Speaker 6: Way sad thing, But That's funny you bring that up,
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  Speaker 6: because I didn't really have that perspective that things were
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  Speaker 6: dying down around like twenty fifteen twenty sixteen when we
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  Speaker 6: we had started. But yeah, I mean we played shows
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  Speaker 6: in twenty sixteen, twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen that were I mean,
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  Speaker 6: we played a No. One you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 6: And yeah, I think it's been a slow role for all.
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  Speaker 6: A lot of the bands that are are you know,
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  Speaker 6: kind of in our same lane, Kuba Khan not loose h.
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  Speaker 6: There's a lot of bands that kind of came up
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  Speaker 6: around that time. We're like, there's this whole thing going
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  Speaker 6: on between you know, a few of us that it's
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  Speaker 6: been cool to see, like what's like whoa like our
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  Speaker 6: like little thing that we have going is like now
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  Speaker 6: like the ship, you know what I mean, when we
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  Speaker 6: weren't thinking about it ever, like being like this big thing,
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  Speaker 6: you know what I mean. You've got bands playing arenas
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  Speaker 6: now playing you know, just h M two riffs, which
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  Speaker 6: I think is awesome, right, But yeah, it's it's exciting thinking,
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  Speaker 6: you know, knowing that you you can be like an
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  Speaker 6: ultra aggressive band and people are out there and enjoying it.
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  Speaker 6: You know, and they're not shying away. I've I've I
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  Speaker 6: think people over the years are there's so much more
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  Speaker 6: discoverability with everything that people find one thing they're like,
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  Speaker 6: this is cool. Like they might find like a bandlike
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  Speaker 6: Spearit Box or something like that, and then start to
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  Speaker 6: like go down the rabbit hole, if you will, to
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  Speaker 6: bands that you know are more hardcore inspired more like
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  Speaker 6: abrasive sound, like superbrasive sounding. I mean, people aren't shying
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  Speaker 6: away from that, They're not staying in the same place.
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  Speaker 6: Like the discoverability is really helping. Yeah, I should stay.
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  Speaker 6: It's ended, you know, Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I was going to stay too, Like it's crazy looking
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  Speaker 5: out at how like I remember being younger and happy
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  Speaker 5: music feeling.
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  Speaker 4: Like it was so like explosive.
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  Speaker 5: But I feel I feel that like now that we're
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  Speaker 5: like older, Like it's way crazy now than it was
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  Speaker 5: back then, but it's still felt the same way that
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  Speaker 5: it does now.
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  Speaker 4: Does that make sense?
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  Speaker 5: But it's like huge, Like like heavy music in general,
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  Speaker 5: it's just huge right now. Like you know, you got
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  Speaker 5: like lorda Shore, like like Shane said, like Knocked. There
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  Speaker 5: are some of the like top two like big dogs
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  Speaker 5: of metal right now, and they're doing shit that like
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: most like bigger like rap groups are like eating artists,
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  Speaker 5: pop artists are doing and it's really cool to see
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  Speaker 5: how accepted metal is nowadays as well.
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  Speaker 4: I think that sims from like.
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  Speaker 5: I've talked to a few people about it, but like
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  Speaker 5: COVID like really like set up success for I think
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  Speaker 5: music overall, just because nobody had access to like concerts
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  Speaker 5: and like you know, people were doing all of these
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  Speaker 5: like you know, live stream sets and stuff like that,
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  Speaker 5: but it was still just like it wasn't enough form.
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  Speaker 5: So now that like that's fast and everybody has like
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  Speaker 5: access to it now, it's.
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  Speaker 4: Like I don't think it's gonna go anywhere.
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  Speaker 5: Like I don't think the hype that the metal scene
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  Speaker 5: has currently.
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  Speaker 4: Is like gonna fall off. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think COVID was one of those situations where
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  Speaker 2: I think it really exposed to a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: that this music that we love, this heavy music, especially
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to your you're talking about this, Shane,
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  Speaker 2: like how much like the live part of it is
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  Speaker 2: such a huge it plays a huge role of why
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  Speaker 2: we even like this kind of music. Yeah, And I
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  Speaker 2: think what COVID exposed was we can't take this for granted,
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  Speaker 2: like there there's a real possibility like these bands will
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  Speaker 2: end or uh, there's gonna be no more shows, and
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  Speaker 2: like we just can't take it for granted. And so
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  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people coming out of COVID
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  Speaker 2: just became way more appreciative of like they're not gonna
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  Speaker 2: just take this for granted anymore. Like they're gonna invest
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  Speaker 2: into these artists, they're going to go to the shows,
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna they're gonna.
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  Speaker 3: Really give a shit about this music.
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  Speaker 2: And so, at least for me, like that certainly was
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  Speaker 2: the case, and at least from what I've seen from
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  Speaker 2: other fans within this genre, like I think there was
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more of an urgency to not take
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  Speaker 2: this for granted anymore.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree with that, I think, but I mean
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  Speaker 6: I had to bring it up. But like the whole
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  Speaker 6: AI thing is like, you know, not more streaming, not
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  Speaker 6: not AI, but like streaming made it so easy to
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  Speaker 6: like consume, and I think people like almost over consumed
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  Speaker 6: where it's.
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  Speaker 8: Like I can just listen to all these bands like
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  Speaker 8: and now with with Spotify, Spotify is actually I mean
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  Speaker 8: they've promoted shows.
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  Speaker 6: On on the artist's profile. I think the live show
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  Speaker 6: and streaming have come together a little bit more when
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  Speaker 6: on in the past it was like, yeah, kind of
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  Speaker 6: separate in like a weird way, whereas like, I mean,
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  Speaker 6: you can still see it now band have a trillion
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: streams and no one comes to the shows. But I
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: think people are, like you said, they're they're trying to
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: like get involved in a way where you know, if
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: it means something to them, they can they can support
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: it on their own sound, yeah, instead of just instead
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: of just listening to it and like take it's like take,
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: you know, they're just taking the music. That's it.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: M hm, Well, let's talk about the new album, Shane.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: I know you've been working on this album for a
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: little while and then Scalery kind of came a little
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: later on to this album's kind of processed the writing
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: and the recording of it.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: So yeah, like what what.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: One of the things I'm always kind of curious for
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: for bands, especially bands that have been doing this for
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: a little while, is like, were there aspects to this
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: album as you were writing Chane that you were like,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: I want, we want to do this maybe a little different,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Like obviously there's gonna be that cool or urial sound
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: that you're always gonna kind of you're always going to
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: want to write.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: But I'm sure there was like parts of.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: This album where you're like, we want to do this
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: a little differently, we want to experiment with something like
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: this little differently. Yeah, what was there that? And if
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: there was, like what was that for you all?
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: As far as like composing the songs, Uh, there was
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: definitely like I was getting stuck personally. Just writing heavy
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: songs over and over again just like gets to me
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: where it's like I love writing heavy music obviously, but
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: I just felt like I was in the same kind
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: of space while doing it. So what I would do
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: is one thing, I would just write something weird and
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: put it off to the side and sometimes even bake
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: that into like a heavier song and just just to
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: see if it worked. I think there wasn't a conscious like, hey,
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: we gotta like try some weird stuff. It just happened naturally,
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: because you know, there was definitely at one point I
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: was like toying with the idea of just like ten
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: mosh songs, that's it, and then we like I couldn't
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: bring myself to just like do ten much songs, Like right,
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: we are going to have like it's kind of in
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: our like, you know, it's just in what we do.
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: We love to push the push the envelope a little
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: bit on our own sound. You know. I don't think
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: we're reinventing the be out or anything, but it comes
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: more from that, like I guess, fear of just like
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: being in the same house all the time.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: M hm hmm, Yeah, we're Like.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: One of the things that like I love about Riols
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: is like it it you all kind of like I
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: want to say, mash like incorporate like these different sort
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: of styles of heavy music in such a really seamless way,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Like it doesn't feel forced, and it certainly doesn't feel segmented.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Like obviously there is a little bit of that.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: New metal influence that you hear, and you guys have
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: already mentioned a little bit about like Lincoln Park being
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: an early influence for you all, and certainly there is that,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: and then obviously there's kind of maybe even to some degree,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: like some death core influences and then obviously just metal
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: core as well. And the way that you're able to
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: sort of seamlessly throughout songs kind of see those influences
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: or hear those influences within the music and such a again,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: like such a seamless way, Like I don't know if
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: there does it feel like there's some sort of formula
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: to that. Does it feel like it just comes natural
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: to you all? Is that like an intentional thing? Like
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: I'm just kind of curious, like how you're able to
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: take these different styles of heavy music and be able
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: to sort of piece them together in this cohesive way.
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah. I think we just kind of play to our strengths.
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: I mean something that happened naturally was I started writing
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: a new batch of songs when and Sky was kind
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: of coming into the fold, and I know his background
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: in like death Pore or like slam if you will,
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: So there were I would try different things just to
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: play to our strengths. I like to play to all
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: or men, Like if I had to compose drums or
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: something or bass, like, I pay attention to how my
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: bandmates would play it, and so I try and work
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: that into into the full I think that's why it
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: feels seamless, just because you know, we all pay attention
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: to each other's abilities, and I think that's part of
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: being a strong unit is is just knowing how knowing
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: how each other kind of like ticks in a way,
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: in a musical way. So that made it really easy
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: for me to what Bred does.
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: So h yeah, I definitely think us as a as
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: a group too, Like like Shane said, like we're very
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: good at like being able to understand where our strengths
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: and weaknesses are as musicians, and you know, like we're
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: not like we've never been afraid of each other, like
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: constructive criticism, especially when we're in the studio obviously, like
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: you've got to like be on ten the entire time,
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: Like this is you're you're building this craft to like
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: share with the world, and like you like I mean
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: Shane and I for sure, not saying Sean and Mike Carr,
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: but like Shane and I for sure like perfectionists when
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: it comes to like nope, do it again, do it again,
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: do it again, do it again. And there was a
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: lot of that. But I think that's why we all
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: work so well together. This is mainly because like we
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: can operate as a unit on stage really well. And
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: when it comes to like writing and stuff, like you know,
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: if I if Shane sends me a demo and I'm like,
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: all right, I'll track to it, and like get it
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: knocked out and send it back to you. But I'll
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: be like, I don't like this part though, somebody should
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: change that, And if I track, Shane will easily.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: Be like, well we should change this, or let's change this.
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: Like it it's it's good, Like we just have good
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: chemistry and that, and it also helps to like we're
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: all like really good friends as well outside of that,
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: So I think that comes into play too. Like nobody
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: like when it comes to being like in a group
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: together doing what we're good at, nobody is like getting
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: their feelings hurt when like one of us is like
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: that's not good.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: You can do better. You know. It's not like a
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: dig at anyone. It's just you.
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: You want it to be like one hundred, Like we're
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: not going to put out something that we think is
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: like ninety eight percent good, like we wanted this album
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: to be one hundred and ten percent good.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: Great if I could say that is.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: That something where like as a new person, you kind
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: of have to kind of force yourself to receive that
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: criticism a little like kind of like you have to
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: force yourself to like receive that criticism right away, because
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: like I can imagine like if you're close friends with somebody, uh,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: like because there's already been that report, like there's that
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: security in that relationship, it's a little easier. But like
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: when you're brand new, like I could at least I
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: can imagine for myself, like if I'm brand new into
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: uh like a group of people and I'm receiving that
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: kind of criticism, uh, it might feel a little bit more,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: it might sting a little bit more. I don't know
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: if that was your experience at all, Skyler, but but
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: the fact that you probably have, you know, you clearly
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: have already had some rapport with these guys, you know,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: from a few years ago. But yeah, I'm just curious, like,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: because you're new, does it kind of feel a little
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: bit like at times like you kind of have to
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: train yourself into being able to receive that criticism in
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: a good way.
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: I So I think for me, well, I just considering,
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: you know, I had heard a few of the songs
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: before we did the Throne headliner in the States last year.
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: So when I was at home, like I was demoing
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: stuff out, sending stuff back and forth, and like I
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: wasn't like a for sure thing yet. I was still
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: just like a fill in, but I was like wanting
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: to be like, you know, here's here's this, Like I
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: was showing effort more or less. And once I joined
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: full time, like we had already gone back and forth
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: to the degree of like the constructive criticism side of things.
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: So like I knew how we were going to operate
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: at the studio, and I think the main thing for
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: me it wasn't really like like lyrics, like we all
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: like like put the lyrics together as a group, Like
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: that was like a lot of like me, Mike and
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: Shane Sean helped out as well, but that like we
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: were just like.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: All right, what are we going to write about?
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: Like how like how are we gonna word and structure
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: certain verses and all this, Like it was a It
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: was a team for for sure, which was my first
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: time ever doing that because normally anytime I'm like doing
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: stuff for my other band, I'm writing lyrics before i
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: even know like what those songs instrumentally are gonna sound like,
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: and I'm like, oh, this works here and blah blah blah.
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: So it was a cool experience for that. I think
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: the main thing was like we didn't know what sound
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: I was gonna do and it was really really cool
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: because when we got to the studio, I met Josh obviously,
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: like I was like, dude, I'm a big fan of
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: your work, Like you've worked with a lot of bands
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: that I grew up listening to, and that was really
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: cool for him and I to like kind of build upon,
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: like over that and just over music in general. But
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: then he looked at me and he was like, all right, well,
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: let's give you in the boos and see what.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: Kind of noises you can make.
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: And that was when I got nervous because we I'm
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: more I.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: Don't want to say, like.
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: I just I'm more low lower tone when it comes
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: to me doing vocals. So we knew then it wasn't
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: We didn't want that right, Like we wanted to like
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: separate that, like we wanted to kind of captivate, like
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: obviously on the tourist chain had like, excuse me, picks
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: parts out of like live sets and been like you
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: sound really good right here, like this is like the
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: sound that you should try and go.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: For in the studio.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: You're never gonna be a I mean you can, but
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: like I'm just one of those vocalists that I feel
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: like it's not necessarily about technique per se, Like I
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: do have like my warm ups and all that, and
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: like I know how to like do what I do,
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: but like I I'm just like yelling, you know, Like
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: I'm just like yelling really loud. And so when we
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: got to the studio, we were like, all right, what
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: sound are we gonna do?
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: Like how do we want to sound?
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: And went through like different structures, like it was more
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: like low toned at first, and it was like don't
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: like that. They were like, we don't like that, that's
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: not really our style.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: And then and then.
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: I can't remember what song you were quick, but there
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: the tone that I've done in the last two songs,
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: like not like high range, but it was like the
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: mid to lower range, but like fit the vurial sound.
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: It was like the the Leo meme when he like
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: leans up and like snaps some points to the TV.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: Like they were all like that, that's it.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: It's like keep doing that, yeah, And from from then now,
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: like it was just like not soup tracking every day,
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: and it was cool because like I'm not used to
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: like doing that in that range, like because I'm just,
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: like I said, like more low tone than anything.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: So did its voice at all corporate like.
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: They they let me have my my spots to do
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: the lower lower stuff. But yeah, overall that was like
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: really the only time I think I got like nervous
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: was like just trying to find them the perfect sound.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: For the album.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly, did it mess with your voice at all?
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: They try to do a little bit of this, like
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: kind of more range, uh, I mean like.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: At first, Yeah, it was just kind of like I
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: just had to like re it was like retraining my
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: my vocal cords, like because when I get on stage
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: and so it's like it's second in nature, Like I'm
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: just like doing like Crazy Loves the whole time.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: Like it's not really anything out of my realm.
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: So when we were doing this, like there were times
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: when I was like, dude, my fucking voice shot, like
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: you know, but now it's it's second nature.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: Like any it's always sounded pretty good right well.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: With the Towur coming up, I would imagine that you're
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: gonna have to you'll have to get your voice trained
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: in that way.
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: A lot of tea normally I'm normally I'm drinking PBRs
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: and smoking before the sets. But I'm not gonna a
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: lot of tea, a lot of vocal warm ups and stuff.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: Like an hour.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Prior, I a couple of months ago interviewed the vocalist
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: I'm forgetting his name right now, but the vocalist from
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Blessed Full, and he was saying that one of the
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: ways that he trains, uh before a tour is he
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: will literally go to like a track and run and
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: as he's running, he will scream, uh, just so that
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: he's like able to do like the physicality of you know,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: running around on stage and everything that part of it,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: while his voice is.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Also like getting you know, trained as well.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: But I always thought that was really interesting to like
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: try to like incorporate yeah, not only the vocal training
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: that you have to do, but also like combine that
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: with the actual physical training.
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: So I don't know if that's something you would ever do,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: but I just found that really Yeah.
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: No, It's funny because Shane and I do our warm
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: ups together and we would be like ten minutes before
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: we're going on and we're like in like the green
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: room hallway, like we pace back and forth, but we
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: do this thing where we're like screaming at each other
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: and we're like whoa like obviously, like in the tones
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: that we're doing, if you were walking by, Like what
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: the fuck?
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: It's just like the weirdest argument I've ever heard.
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it looks like an argument, but people are just
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: yelling wow at each other.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: That's awesome. Yeah, what like, just which is so far?
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Like I know the album hasn't come out, and it's
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: gonna come out next month, but yeah, just like so far,
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: what's the reaction been from the I think there's like
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: been like one or two songs that have been like
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: released so far.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, what has been? Yeah?
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: What's the reaction been so far from Viario's fans?
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: Been crazy?
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: I remember like I couldn't sleep the night before, like
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: it was like Christmas was the next day, and I
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: was like having to like lay down and like force
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: myself to go to sleep, like my nerves and my anxiety.
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: Where this was like right before I'll Find the Dark
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: came out and I was just like, dude, like I
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: don't know like what people are gonna.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: Say, blah blah blah.
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: Like obviously, you know there's Reddit threats and ship where
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: people are like they've got this guy and he's fucking
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: killing him and you know, like they were excited for it,
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: and you know, people were like if they get him
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: like full time, like it's gonna be crazy like whatever.
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: So like I'll like, there's always gonna be like some
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: you know bad comments like fucking whatever.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: Right people are people are? People are allowed to their opinion.
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: Obviously, I'm not one who's gonna like hate on anybody
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: for like not liking the way I sound.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: But yeah, like I said, it was real.
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: It was a great reaction. Really it was. I mean
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: also for me, like uh pretty uh pretty nerve wracking,
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: like we had gone through some you know, lineup changes. Obviously,
• 33:33
  Speaker 6: we haven't released music since twenty twenty two, it's like
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: mid to late twenty twenty five, so like we've been
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: touring a little bit here and there with fill and vocalists,
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: so like trying to keep our foot in the door.
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: But this is like the true like are people actually
• 33:49
  Speaker 6: gonna care? Still? And I would say it was a success,
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: and we still have you know, songs to roll out
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: and the whole album comes out, you know, and a
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: little over a month, so it's not over until you know,
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: we're on the road for that tour and you know,
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: playing the new songs to people which were really excited about.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: One of the things I like notice is, you know,
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: especially with the last album, like you know, Mitchell was,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: you know, obviously incredible vocalist, but it doesn't sound like
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Skylar to me. That Like, it sounds like it doesn't
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: sound like a completely new band with your vocals, like
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: you know, you you've got a little you know, similar
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: tones going on in your screaming and so yeah, I
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: felt like it felt very natural of a fit, to
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: be honest, just vocally, Yeah.
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, one thing that we wanted to do
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: and I've said this a ton of times, but coming
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: into the picture, like I wanted to like remind people
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: why they fell in love with to Span years and
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: years ago, while also kind of like captivating a new
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: and fresh down for it and exposing like a different
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: kind of side of what Varials is able to be.
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: And I think we the executed that like very very well.
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: I think people are going to really like that album
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: for sure.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Are there any songs in particular that come to mind
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: when you guys go on tour here shortly? Are there
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: any songs that you're like, I'm really excited to play
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: that new song for whatever.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: Reason's fun that song is.
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's probably that's I think. I really really like
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: that song a lot.
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, plus fun School, I mean, all the new songs
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: that we love playing them. They're fun, it feels fun
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: to play them. They're meant for We were talking earlier
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: about the live setting. They're meant for that, and we're
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: pretty confident that they're going to go over. Well.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, are there any specifically that you think, like from
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: a from an audience perspective, you think the audience will
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: love the most? Like, are there any one specifically that
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: come to mind? Like, there might be songs that you
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: you personally like playing, but I would imagine then there
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: are songs that you just know that's just going to
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: get the audience going. Are their songs specifically you can
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: think of that? Yeah, the audience will really appreciate.
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: Well, there's a called I mean, honestly, the whole record
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: is meant is meant for that. Even songs that are
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: off the wall, you know, there's a you know, there's
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: a fewer fast paced ones, there's some slower ones. Skyler
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: was talking about Blissful End, that's a really upbeat song.
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: The whole record is meant to be consumed, you know,
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: as as a whole. So you know, we hope people
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: like it and come out to a show and participate
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: in the music, because that's really what it's meant for,
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: you know.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Mhm, love that, love that. Well.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Uh, I'm excited for the new album, excited for the tour.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Are you guys coming to the Twin Cities by any chance?
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: In Minneapolis or Saint Paul. I haven't looked at the
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: tour dates yet. Well, next time you guys come through,
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: I'll certainly be there.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: I'm excited.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the the new album so far, the little that
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: I've heard, has just been really incredible. So I'm just
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: really stoked on it.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: So Skyler, So Shane, I know you popped on after
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: I already.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: Told Skyler all this.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: So Skyler, you can go first, but we're gonna do
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: top five most influential albums, so the albums that have
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: shaken as a person as a musician, not necessarily your favorite,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: but just most influential. Skyler, I know you were a
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: little bit more prepared for this. So do you do
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: you want to go first? Go through those top five
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: and then Shane, I.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: Don't know if I can do five, but if I'm allowed.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: Three, I think, oh certainly.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: So, like I said, one Biscuit Significant Other, that is
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: like one of my favorite albums, like from starts.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember is that the first one or
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: the second one?
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: Second one that they released? Let me look really okay,
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: I believe it was the second one.
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: That's the second one, I.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Think because it was is it like Chocolate Starfish that
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: was after that?
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Then?
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Okay, so three dollar Bill the like first, right, uh,
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: never get other.
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: I'd hate to say it.
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: Because I love Media World a lot, but Hybrid Theory, guys.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: I mean that is probably one of the most listed
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: albums on this podcast. I think, like usually, like a
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Jimmy World album is usually mentioned quite a bit, but yeah,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: I think Hybrid Theory is almost always a listed one.
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: It's just yeah, I mean it's it's a monumental record,
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: You can never go wrong with putting that on.
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to think of something else because I just
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: have so many albums that I like, Dude, I think
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna stick with to two.
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: Those are like my like Tap two, like heavy Records.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, are there any albums like more recently where you know,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: maybe in the last ten years, for example, that you've
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: listened to it and you were like, Oh, I really
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: like the way that they write, or I like the lyrics,
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: like how this person did the lyrics, or I like
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: the way that this person screams. Like has there been
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: anything in the last ten years that maybe has like
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: even influenced you to some degree as a as a
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: vocalist or as a songwriter.
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm like constant, like I always have like
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: something playing, and I'm just like, dude, my playlist is
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: like I don't even know, it's like over one hundred
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: and thirty hours worth of music. Like it's a lot,
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: not like off the top of my head, but I
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: I keep up as much as I can. I'm always
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: like trying to listen to the new stuff. But I
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: also like find myself going back to my roots a lot.
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: But I mean, you know, there's a bunch of like
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: crazy good, like young hardcore bands coming out right now,
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: especially out of Oklahoma too. You know, I like country.
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of country records that I like. Obviously,
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: like hip hop and rap. I'm really big into that,
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: like west Side Gune, Griselda, you know stuff and that wrong. Yeah,
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: not off the top of my head, but I keep
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: up as much as I can.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: For sure, love that, love that.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Uh, Shane, do you have at least a few albums
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: that have shaped you either as a person or a musician.
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: I'm a rapid fire them off for your heavy albums.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: Or just just any It truly can be anything.
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: Okay, all right? Oh in that case, UH got Apollo
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: and Burning Star four by Cod and Cambria. Oh okay,
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: it's always on, dude, It's it's on a lot. And
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: keeping secrets is silnder A three, Cod and Cambria, second Stage,
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: Turbine Blade Cod and Cambria Canyon, I really love. I
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: can't see it, but I got a tattoo Devil's Canyon
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: Molly Hatchett And then.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: Oh that's a that's a cut I haven't heard in
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: a while.
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's I wouldn't expect anyone to know that. I'm
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: gonna pull a CD out of my my car and
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: whichever one that is, that's gonna be gonna go with.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, of course you still listen to CDs.
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: I don't have an OX in my car or you
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: have to. So I have seed, so I have CD.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: Yes, what are you driving like at two thousand and eight?
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: I'm in too, Damn, I'm in a two thousand and six.
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: I'm in a two thousand and six. Hold on, Wow,
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: these are all traged.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: No, the Pontiac's legendary dude. We love the pony.
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: Track all right? The last album.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Is that one?
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Wasn't that one from like two thousand and two or
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: something two thousand and three?
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: I got this for five five bucks at Siren Records.
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: Shoutout sirn Records.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: Hell yeah, g dude, gosh, it was back when he
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: was so.
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: I got here was this guy? Bring album?
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Aren't they coming out with a new album soon or
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: they're like getting back together or something?
• 42:10
  Speaker 6: I saw?
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: I think so, yeah, I see him doing.
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: What's album? Yeah? No pressure?
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no pressure is sick to you.
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: Circus Survived, great album. This is this is on letting go?
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: Hold on, I'm just pulling up all the fucking classic.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got You've got a good mix there.
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: The Amulet, The Amulet by Circus Survive is my It
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: was my on my UH top top songs or I
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: think there was like three songs in this on my
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: top playlist. Dang, I don't Reven know that much anymore. Really,
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: I don't like I listen to music in my car
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: when I have CDs, but I was in like podcasts
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: and stuff. But like I remember over the summer just
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: going to the driving range, like golfing and just listening
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: to that album on repeat. Incredible album. It's horrifyingly beautiful.
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: I love it.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: It's a great description. Horrifyingly beautiful.
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: Yes, yes, anything?
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, have you listened to Elis Dunes project?
• 43:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah? I I have listened to Elis Dunes. Funny enough,
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: the guitar player from Cod and Cambria is in that band. Yeah, Travis,
• 43:37
  Speaker 6: Travis Stevers, shout out Travis. We don't know each other.
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: But I watched Code side stage and I gave him
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: a handshake or something. I forget what he did. I
• 43:48
  Speaker 6: was watching him side stage, and.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: You haven't watched that since, right, Yeah, well now.
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: I remember what he did. He walked past past me
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: and you like, he like bumped my chest and I
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: was like, that's my dog. That's like my favorite band
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: in the world and my.
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: Favorite one tier.
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: And then I met Claudia. I met Claudia after that, sick.
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: That was cool. Yeah, I love I love not heavy
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: music and all.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's awesome.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Well, you can definitely hear some of those influences and
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: uh in your guys' music, which is really cool because
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: it's always fun to like hear or Yeah, it's fun
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: to talk about like some of these albums that you
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: know shape and artists and then you can kind of
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: hear in different ways how those those artists and those
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: albums have you know, influenced their their own music that.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: They're making, which is cool, so sweet.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: What do you guys want to plug? Obviously a new
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: album comes out in just over a month. Tour, Yeah,
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: what do you guys want to plug?
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: No album drops February twenty seventh, gonna be everywhere stream it,
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: listens to it.
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: Yes, we're on tour as well.
• 44:53
  Speaker 9: Don't forget got out Cot and Cambria, got out a
• 45:00
  Speaker 9: vessel shut shout out, shout.
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: Out back room from Oklahoma, shout out with my boys,
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: my family.
• 45:11
  Speaker 6: I love you guys, Fearless Records. There's a lot of
• 45:16
  Speaker 6: people to think, you know what I mean, clearly, hopefully
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: you put.
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: There's been so many people in the scenes, but everybody
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: knows we.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Love them, love it, love it. What when does the
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: tour start again?
• 45:30
  Speaker 6: I think March is twelfth, right, March twelfth in Detroit, Detroit, Michigan.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: Okay, so a couple of weeks after the album gets released.
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: And then everybody will have time to put it in
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: and check it out and then love it.
• 45:45
  Speaker 6: Sweet.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm excited. Anything else you guys like the plug.
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: I think I'm good.
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: That's it for me.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having us. By the way,
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: this is really cool.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, well, thanks so much, guys. I'm I'm super
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: stoked about the new album. You know, this last year
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: for music was one of my favorite years ever, and
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: you know, with your guys' new album coming out, Conversion's
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: got the new album coming out here soon, Like, there's
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: just already so many new albums I'm already excited about,
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: and so your guys' album is definitely one of them.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: So just super super stoked. So thank you guys so
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: much for chatting more about it.
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you so much for album. Appreciate it.