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Stephen A.Smith, Penn State Crack House Taken Down, Greatest MLB Players of All-Time · Heads Of State Podcast

0:15
SPEAKER_10: Cheetos, thank you, Cheetos.
0:16
SPEAKER_10: We appreciate it.
0:17
SPEAKER_03: I'm about to cut that out, yo.
0:19
SPEAKER_03: We're recording now.
0:19
SPEAKER_03: I can't put no no endorsements up.
0:21
SPEAKER_03: Hey, Cheetos if it ain't paid for we need a deal, Cheetos.
0:25
SPEAKER_02: Fritole, holla at us for real.
0:28
SPEAKER_03: I'm one of your stockes, Welches, fruit snacks.
0:32
SPEAKER_02: We've been eating Frito Lay's for 45 years, yo.
0:35
SPEAKER_02: You owe us.
0:35
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, hell yeah.
0:36
SPEAKER_10: We got equity.
0:38
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
0:40
SPEAKER_02: 45 years of just solid contribution to the Cheeto factory.
0:44
SPEAKER_02: Oh shit.
0:44
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, like come on.
0:46
SPEAKER_10: Like when we add it all up, shit.
0:47
SPEAKER_10: We got a little peace, a little half for some.
0:49
SPEAKER_02: Come on.
0:50
SPEAKER_02: Come on, Frito Lay.
0:51
SPEAKER_02: You know better.
0:52
SPEAKER_10: Holler at us, man.
0:53
SPEAKER_10: I invested money and years off my life.
0:58
SPEAKER_10: I mean, yellow nine, yellow 40.
1:02
SPEAKER_12: Yellow dye.
1:07
SPEAKER_12: We was eating that shit before anybody knew what it was.
1:10
SPEAKER_12: We love that shit.
1:11
SPEAKER_10: Well, that's the thing.
1:12
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yeah.
1:12
SPEAKER_10: We kind of transitioned to that because it's so funny because we could taste the difference because Doritos used to be used to taste different.
1:18
SPEAKER_10: It used to just be 100%.
1:20
SPEAKER_10: The ingredients were not what they are now.
1:22
SPEAKER_10: They were more like tortilla type nacho.
1:26
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yes, yes.
1:27
SPEAKER_02: I just got to go back to the case.
1:34
SPEAKER_10: Now they're just terrible.
1:35
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, uh oh, yeah, they're like cool ranches.
1:37
SPEAKER_03: Cool ranch is good though.
1:39
SPEAKER_03: I thought about a cool ranch.
1:41
SPEAKER_10: I like the uh sour cream.
1:42
SPEAKER_10: Cool ranch is the ruffles.
1:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, cool ranch, cool ranch in a lot.
1:48
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yeah.
1:48
SPEAKER_02: See me back.
1:50
SPEAKER_02: I had a cool ranch in Doritos used to have shit a lot in the 80s, early 90s.
1:57
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yeah.
1:58
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
1:59
SPEAKER_10: I haven't had a whole bag, like yeah, me neither.
2:02
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, they used to be incredible.
2:04
SPEAKER_10: They they're the last, like, if I get the mixed bag chips, and they they're the ones left, honestly.
2:10
SPEAKER_10: I mean, and the last a lot, I agree.
2:13
SPEAKER_10: And I I like the the cheddar sour cream ruffles.
2:16
SPEAKER_10: Not you know, the kids don't like that, but I like those little head.
2:19
SPEAKER_10: I used to I was good with a sandwich.
2:20
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, when those came out, I was like, I'm about to say those are good with like sandwiches, yeah.
2:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
2:27
SPEAKER_02: It's so funny.
2:28
SPEAKER_02: When you get like a box, when you get a box of like uh chips, the wackest ones always stand there the longest, yo.
2:35
SPEAKER_02: Like some of them, some chips, the chili fritos.
2:42
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
2:43
SPEAKER_02: I like chili Fritos, but they they go last all day, yo.
2:47
SPEAKER_10: You know why they were good?
2:48
SPEAKER_10: Because every time you ate them, you was hungry, and that was the last option.
2:52
SPEAKER_10: Anytime I had those Fritos, I I was like, Man, okay, you always try to eat them like a delicacy, like these shits is like something that they're not.
3:00
SPEAKER_10: Remember Friday, we were like, yo, I got them crisp.
3:03
SPEAKER_10: Like, no.
3:07
SPEAKER_03: Was that Friday?
3:08
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, no, chili Fritos Friday too.
3:13
SPEAKER_02: Oh big worm.
3:15
SPEAKER_02: I heard I heard they make a new Friday.
3:17
SPEAKER_02: I heard they got the script going.
3:18
SPEAKER_02: I heard everything is popping with the new Friday.
3:22
SPEAKER_02: We should start with Ice Cube.
3:23
SPEAKER_03: Did you see Ice Cube with Tucker Cartuga?
3:26
SPEAKER_10: Oh, no, no, we were not.
3:27
SPEAKER_10: No, no, actually, you didn't see that shit?
3:29
SPEAKER_10: Oh, there's anything crazy.
3:31
SPEAKER_10: Oh, okay.
3:33
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, remember Yeah he was like, Your life sucks.
3:37
SPEAKER_10: I owe you.
3:41
SPEAKER_10: Oh, Pierce, oh yeah, yeah.
3:43
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
3:44
SPEAKER_03: Let me see.
3:44
SPEAKER_03: I got the I got a clip queued up.
3:46
SPEAKER_03: Look, if this is the best clip that they got, it must have been a boring ass interview.
3:49
SPEAKER_03: Let me see.
3:50
SPEAKER_03: Okay, okay.
3:52
SPEAKER_11: I don't know if the producers was just copy.
3:56
SPEAKER_03: Oh.
3:57
SPEAKER_11: Oh I've been um, you know, I tried to go on I tried to go on the view.
4:03
SPEAKER_11: They didn't have me on the view.
4:05
SPEAKER_11: Wow.
4:05
SPEAKER_11: Um well a few of the guests just really didn't like where I was coming from.
4:11
SPEAKER_10: So I saw this clip before.
4:14
SPEAKER_11: So that's what I was told by the producers.
4:17
SPEAKER_11: You know, I don't know if the producers was just copping out and using some of the hosts to not have me come on and explain myself.
4:26
SPEAKER_11: But you'd be a good booking for them.
4:28
SPEAKER_11: I've been on there before.
4:30
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
4:31
SPEAKER_11: You know, it's just when I've he's very confused.
4:33
SPEAKER_03: You know, Tucker Carlson's face, yo.
4:35
SPEAKER_03: You know, oh my god, why?
4:37
SPEAKER_03: What who are these hates?
4:38
SPEAKER_03: He does that thing where he squints, he's like, Ice came in.
4:45
SPEAKER_11: Depending on thinker, when I've, you know, I'm not, you know, I don't I don't follow their uh their brand of politics, I guess.
4:56
SPEAKER_01: But if you can't think for yourself, then you're not really free, are you?
5:00
SPEAKER_11: No, you're not.
5:02
SPEAKER_11: You're not.
5:03
SPEAKER_11: But I've been excluded, I've been excluded on Oprah, you know.
5:08
SPEAKER_11: On Oprah?
5:08
SPEAKER_11: On Oprah, yeah, I've been excluded.
5:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, man.
5:12
SPEAKER_01: I would think you'd be the person Oprah would want to promote.
5:16
SPEAKER_01: I mean, you grew up in South Central, you were successful at a young age.
5:22
SPEAKER_03: You grew up in South Central.
5:25
SPEAKER_02: What about my music career and my acting career?
5:29
SPEAKER_10: I tell you what, Ice Ice Cube's one of the, I mean, he's but I saw that clip, but they didn't really have a back and forth.
5:35
SPEAKER_10: I thought there was something they had back and forth.
5:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
5:38
SPEAKER_01: You say what you think.
5:39
SPEAKER_01: Like I thought that was the goal.
5:41
SPEAKER_11: Me too.
5:42
SPEAKER_11: You know, I don't know what it is, but you know, several of my you know, I had a movie called Barbershop, you know.
5:50
SPEAKER_11: Um I remember that that I wasn't invited to participate with the cast.
5:55
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
5:55
SPEAKER_11: Uh produced a show called uh Black White.
5:59
SPEAKER_11: Uh and it was it was a very controversial show.
6:04
SPEAKER_11: And um once again, they had the whole cast on, but I wasn't invited.
6:08
SPEAKER_11: So I don't know what that's an Oprah show.
6:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I don't know what that's a But an Oprah is obviously a saintly godlike figure who's revered by all decent people.
6:19
SPEAKER_01: Why would she exclude you?
6:22
SPEAKER_11: I really don't know.
6:24
SPEAKER_11: You know, that's that's something that I would love to find out, but I I don't I can't tell you, you know, if there's a single thing that I've done or said to her.
6:37
SPEAKER_01: Have you noticed that it is more controversial to criticize Oprah than to burn the American flag?
6:42
SPEAKER_01: Really?
6:45
SPEAKER_01: I've never heard anybody criticize Oprah.
6:48
SPEAKER_01: Do you think it's political or do you think it's deeper than that?
6:50
SPEAKER_01: I don't I mean, you're not like a right winger.
6:52
SPEAKER_11: No.
6:52
SPEAKER_01: No.
6:53
unknown: No.
6:53
SPEAKER_01: You don't even seem that political.
6:56
SPEAKER_11: No, I'm not really.
6:57
SPEAKER_11: I'm pretty much, you know, um swan do right by the people, you know.
7:02
SPEAKER_11: So if that comes through political means, that comes through the private sector.
7:06
SPEAKER_11: Wherever it comes, you know, uh I'm down to work with whoever's down to do something right for the people.
7:13
SPEAKER_10: So I have a question.
7:15
SPEAKER_10: Go ahead.
7:16
SPEAKER_10: I just have one quick question.
7:17
SPEAKER_10: There's a parallel, it's kind of just something funny I thought of.
7:21
SPEAKER_10: And I don't know how how we extrapolate this, how we make this like we could calculate this, but just in betting terms, if I bet one dollar that Ice Cube would be on this form doing this right now, what do you think that would be?
7:36
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, what do you think would be worth 10 trillions?
7:38
SPEAKER_10: Trillions.
7:40
SPEAKER_10: What would the odds be that this is happening right now?
7:45
SPEAKER_03: You know, the world, it's a wild.
7:46
SPEAKER_02: I mean, Ice Cube.
7:48
SPEAKER_02: He literally like he had like 17 eras.
7:52
SPEAKER_02: Like his whole career, he started like he it's kind of amazing that he's even lasted this long.
7:58
SPEAKER_02: It's a really a testament to him and his ability to reinvent himself into like he he's literally when he was in Neb, he was like what, like 17, 16, like he was a kid.
8:09
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
8:10
SPEAKER_10: 17.
8:12
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
8:13
SPEAKER_03: And you know, he's a stone cold gangster.
8:15
SPEAKER_03: I mean, like you you've seen the movie and what he was doing back then compared to what he's doing now.
8:20
SPEAKER_03: He kind of soft, yo.
8:22
SPEAKER_03: Like, he he looked like he's just broken.
8:23
SPEAKER_03: I don't know what happened to him.
8:24
SPEAKER_03: He must have lost a lot of money doing something.
8:26
SPEAKER_03: Like, they must have lost the rest problem.
8:29
SPEAKER_03: Oh, he's he's in bed with them Russian motherfuckers, right?
8:32
SPEAKER_03: Like with the investment on that big three, isn't there?
8:34
SPEAKER_03: Some Russian gangsters.
8:36
SPEAKER_02: He's got he's got some some something's involved with it.
8:38
SPEAKER_10: Like, remember the Russians owned the New Jersey nets for a little bit for like six months?
8:44
SPEAKER_02: They don't Perkeroff.
8:47
SPEAKER_02: No, that motherfucker, he came in there, he just he just went in and started making deals.
8:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
8:53
SPEAKER_02: And they was like, Yo, you gotta go, yo.
8:55
SPEAKER_02: You just you you ain't even trying to like play.
8:57
SPEAKER_02: He probably didn't even know what basketball was.
8:59
SPEAKER_02: Like, he was just like, whatever.
9:02
SPEAKER_02: Like, yo, why these guys running up and down this court?
9:04
SPEAKER_02: Oh, they played basketball.
9:06
SPEAKER_10: Okay, but but you know, he stole um oh no, what you say, he stole what like he stole Robert Kraft's Super Bowl ring.
9:13
SPEAKER_10: You heard that story?
9:14
SPEAKER_10: Oh, yes, yes, he gave he had him put it on and he never gave it back.
9:18
SPEAKER_12: Yo never gave it back.
9:22
SPEAKER_10: That was Putin, that was Putin.
9:24
SPEAKER_10: That was Putin.
9:26
SPEAKER_12: One of them, man.
9:26
SPEAKER_10: Yo can't give him my ring back?
9:28
SPEAKER_10: No, you go, yo.
9:29
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yeah, Putin did that.
9:30
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, they was some shit like uh I mean look, at the end of the day, you know, it's funny how like crazy the Lakers are like the Chitlin circuit right now, with the the you know, the bus family is going crazy on this little and it's 17 and 8.8 percent, and they they infight it because the brothers are like, yo, let's flip this they hate they hate Jeannie Bus.
9:54
SPEAKER_02: Literally, like they hate her, and they've been hating her for probably about 20-30 years.
9:58
SPEAKER_10: She's been in control for forever since she's gonna be a little bit more than a control, yeah.
10:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, and she's uh I mean the Lakers just like a shit organization.
10:07
SPEAKER_02: I mean, they look so to be such a beautiful franchise and to be uh really the most popular NBA brand, right?
10:16
SPEAKER_02: And to now look at them like you know who I haven't heard from though?
10:20
SPEAKER_02: We haven't heard from Magic.
10:22
SPEAKER_10: Oh, yeah, Magic chilling, you know.
10:25
SPEAKER_10: Why doesn't Magic and Shaq get together?
10:27
SPEAKER_10: Magic Shaq into all of those guys, and then Kobe State, you know, they're never gonna let a black man do that shit.
10:34
SPEAKER_03: Come on, they barely let these motherfuckers get a fucking anything because they could they could put the group together.
10:39
SPEAKER_02: I mean, they could they could put a group together, and the way I look at it now, the NBA is not even vetting these owners, right?
10:45
SPEAKER_02: Like, they just giving people like that guy from the who owned the Dodgers.
10:48
SPEAKER_02: He even had no money, really.
10:50
SPEAKER_10: Like, his money building lawsuits, yeah.
10:53
SPEAKER_02: He's yeah, he's gonna have to sell the Dodgers, yeah, to pay off his debts.
10:57
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, isn't that funny where you're like, yo man, I gotta sell this shit.
11:02
SPEAKER_10: Like, no, I got the Lakers, like you want to buy the Lakers.
11:06
SPEAKER_02: Anybody want to buy a Lakers?
11:08
SPEAKER_02: Like, you know, who do you call to be like, hey, I I got the Lakers?
11:12
SPEAKER_02: Anybody want to buy them?
11:12
SPEAKER_02: And they're like, Yeah, sure, it's the fucking Lakers, of course.
11:15
SPEAKER_10: That's a testament of money, though, right?
11:17
SPEAKER_10: Because it it's the same with Donald Sterling making an increase, right, in profit where it was a fire sale, him making an increase in a fire sale.
11:25
SPEAKER_10: Where do you ever see in a fire sale?
11:27
SPEAKER_10: Everybody knows you need to sell, right?
11:29
SPEAKER_10: And you go up two and a half billion dollars.
11:32
SPEAKER_03: He bought the team for what, like 36 million or something.
11:35
SPEAKER_03: Maybe smoke cheaper.
11:36
SPEAKER_02: No, he brought it for he brought it for 10, and then he sold it.
11:38
SPEAKER_10: And it's 12 and a half, yeah.
11:40
SPEAKER_10: 10 billion, sold it for 12 and a half billion.
11:42
SPEAKER_10: So two and a half billion dollars.
11:44
SPEAKER_03: The other guy, the Clippers guy.
11:46
SPEAKER_03: Oh, Donald Sterling?
11:47
SPEAKER_10: Oh, that was 800 million.
11:49
SPEAKER_10: 800 million or 1.2 billion.
11:51
SPEAKER_10: 1.2 billion.
11:52
SPEAKER_03: I thought he sold for a million dollars.
11:53
SPEAKER_10: But you're talking about um, you're talking about.
11:55
SPEAKER_10: I thought you said Donald Sterling.
11:57
SPEAKER_03: Oh, bomber, not yeah.
11:58
SPEAKER_10: Well, no, I'm I'm just talking about the the relationship as far as like it's a fire sale, right?
12:03
SPEAKER_10: And it's like most times, say you you say somebody knows you need to sell your house or you need to sell some asset.
12:08
SPEAKER_10: You're gonna take a haircut, yeah.
12:11
SPEAKER_10: They're gonna say, Oh, I can get, you know, but with a team, right?
12:14
SPEAKER_10: With an NBA, uh, you know, these this billionaires club, you're making money.
12:18
SPEAKER_10: You're making more money.
12:20
SPEAKER_10: They're like, You have to sell who, you know, yeah, and and you're like, man, this is messed up.
12:25
SPEAKER_10: And they're like, Yeah, I'm sorry, this is messed up, but I'm gonna pay you a premium.
12:29
SPEAKER_10: Right, right, yo, yo, it sucks, yo.
12:31
SPEAKER_10: It sucks.
12:32
SPEAKER_02: Hey, you know what?
12:33
SPEAKER_02: When this sell goes through, I'll get you some courtside tickets, too, bro.
12:37
SPEAKER_03: I fuck with you, but I'm gonna need courtside.
12:40
SPEAKER_10: Like, this thing would be worth 15 billion if this wasn't happening to me.
12:44
SPEAKER_10: No, and you're right.
12:45
SPEAKER_02: 12 billion.
12:46
SPEAKER_02: We look so bad, though.
12:47
SPEAKER_02: The NBA in itself is looking really bad with the bomber shit.
12:50
SPEAKER_02: And how the NBA gonna come out and say, yo, nothing happened.
12:54
SPEAKER_02: Like, really?
12:54
SPEAKER_02: I mean, technically, nothing did happen.
12:56
SPEAKER_02: They do, they they do that.
12:58
SPEAKER_10: They had a they had a fake they had a no-show company, no show job.
13:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he had a no, he had a no-show job, no bid, no show, like the Sopranos and shit, right?
13:07
SPEAKER_02: They would just they you know what I'm saying, when Chris and them would just be outside stealing fucking uh uh cable cables from the people.
13:15
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
13:15
SPEAKER_03: We're not paying any copper wires and shit.
13:19
SPEAKER_02: Fiber boxes, good money in that, yeah.
13:22
SPEAKER_02: And getting a check, and getting a paycheck, yeah, and getting a paycheck, and it's like I don't know, man.
13:28
SPEAKER_02: The NBA, um, but I don't know.
13:30
SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna talk about the NBA because I I can't stand the Sixers now.
13:34
SPEAKER_02: What?
13:36
SPEAKER_02: Somebody let LeBron live, yo.
13:38
SPEAKER_03: You can't let LeBron live, can you?
13:41
SPEAKER_02: He got out of LA Yeah.
13:43
SPEAKER_10: Why is LeBron?
13:44
SPEAKER_10: Why is LeBron why would he be talking about LeBron on the Sixers?
13:46
SPEAKER_10: Come on.
13:47
SPEAKER_10: The Sixers, that's LeBron is not, that's not the they they got one, two, few players ahead of him on the Sixers.
13:53
SPEAKER_10: You know that.
13:54
SPEAKER_10: Come on, you know that.
13:55
SPEAKER_10: Come on.
13:55
SPEAKER_10: What do you mean?
13:56
SPEAKER_10: You saying Jalen Brown is not gonna be ahead of LeBron?
13:59
SPEAKER_03: LeBron is gonna be 42 years old in December.
14:02
SPEAKER_10: And he's gonna 42.
14:04
SPEAKER_03: What was what was MJ doing at 42?
14:06
SPEAKER_03: Sorry to make this hilarious.
14:07
SPEAKER_10: No, no, but but again, you you have to defer.
14:10
SPEAKER_10: LeBron has to defer.
14:11
SPEAKER_10: You admit that, right?
14:12
SPEAKER_10: Defer to admit that defer to other players on the team.
14:17
SPEAKER_02: Realistically, he's probably like realistically, he's the third option, but I think he has so much cachet, and them cats are gonna be scared of him.
14:26
SPEAKER_02: Like, honestly, fourth quarter when they get crunch time.
14:28
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, especially if he's he's only playing like 25 minutes a night.
14:32
SPEAKER_03: Imagine low, you're LeBron on 25 minutes in the fourth quarter.
14:36
SPEAKER_02: But see, that that shit ain't gonna last though, yo.
14:38
SPEAKER_02: Because his ego too much to be like, I'm I'm gonna be 25 minutes a game.
14:43
SPEAKER_02: I thought about this.
14:44
SPEAKER_02: He's gonna try to.
14:44
SPEAKER_02: They tried to do it with the Lakers.
14:46
SPEAKER_10: No, I thought about this, and this is actually Austin Reader kept getting hurt.
14:50
SPEAKER_10: This is actually, remember how I said the the whole um MLK Malcolm, you know, whatever, but this is a better comparison.
14:56
SPEAKER_10: Oh god, this is who LeBron is.
14:58
SPEAKER_10: No, this is who LeBron is.
14:59
SPEAKER_10: Honestly, Hank Aaron, Hank Aaron, he's the Hank Aaron of basketball.
15:05
SPEAKER_10: Tell me that's not true.
15:06
SPEAKER_10: The the the chick, the leader of home runs, right?
15:09
SPEAKER_10: Consistent, 20 plus years, 20 home runs a season, right?
15:14
SPEAKER_02: You know, you know, you know, you know he never hit he never hit 50 home runs in a season uh Hank Aaron.
15:19
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, exactly.
15:20
SPEAKER_10: Great player, you know, like LeBron has led the league in scoring once.
15:24
SPEAKER_10: Take nothing away from him, right?
15:26
SPEAKER_10: But I think that's a good one.
15:30
SPEAKER_10: Oh, he died, he died in 2021.
15:32
SPEAKER_03: I didn't ask him.
15:32
SPEAKER_10: Hank Aaron and um and and LeBron.
15:34
SPEAKER_10: Hank Aaron LeBron's the Hank Aaron, and not in the civil rights way, but in the player way.
15:40
SPEAKER_10: Right.
15:40
SPEAKER_03: Yo, his yo, his batting average, his career batting average is 305.
15:45
SPEAKER_03: That's good.
15:46
SPEAKER_10: He was yeah, yes, he was great player.
15:49
SPEAKER_10: That's what I'm saying.
15:50
SPEAKER_10: So what we say LeBron is great.
15:52
SPEAKER_03: We say LeBron is great.
15:53
SPEAKER_03: We're not saying the in that era of baseball, who is the greatest of all time in that era?
15:59
SPEAKER_02: Well, we well, my as my dad would say Willie Mays is the greatest player he's ever seen.
16:03
SPEAKER_02: Well, he said he says Bobby Bond, Bobby, Barry Bonds is the greatest player ever.
16:09
SPEAKER_02: For his era in the 60s was uh Willie Mays, who happens to be Barry Bond's godfather.
16:14
SPEAKER_02: How crazy is that?
16:15
SPEAKER_02: That's crazy.
16:19
SPEAKER_03: So Henry Aaron, uh look, I'm gonna put the Wikipedia up just so I can prove you wrong.
16:27
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
16:28
SPEAKER_03: What?
16:28
SPEAKER_03: That he's not LeBron James?
16:30
SPEAKER_03: No, this is a proof.
16:31
SPEAKER_03: No, that you're comparing him to LeBron James, but I think Is he better than LeBron?
16:36
SPEAKER_10: As far as baseball-wise, is he better?
16:38
SPEAKER_10: No, I'm saying baseball, yes.
16:41
SPEAKER_10: No, is he a greater player, like as far as in baseball terms than LeBron is in basketball terms?
16:47
SPEAKER_05: Like as far as his cachet.
16:51
SPEAKER_10: Okay, I don't know.
16:52
SPEAKER_10: See, I don't know.
16:54
SPEAKER_10: I think he's I think he's on that he's he's an all-time home run leader.
17:00
SPEAKER_03: A second ago, you were like, this is who he is.
17:02
SPEAKER_03: LeBron is Henry Aaron, right?
17:06
SPEAKER_02: Hey, hey Marble, he was a 25-time all-star.
17:08
SPEAKER_03: What the five-time all-star.
17:11
SPEAKER_03: But no, but but think about LeBron.
17:13
SPEAKER_10: One World Series, think about one MVP.
17:16
SPEAKER_10: Think about LeBron.
17:17
SPEAKER_10: 20, what, one-time all-star?
17:18
SPEAKER_10: This is he is Hank Aaron.
17:20
SPEAKER_10: He's Hank Aaron.
17:21
SPEAKER_10: I don't think so.
17:22
SPEAKER_03: LeBron got better.
17:24
SPEAKER_03: No, this is he led the league in home runs four times.
17:26
SPEAKER_10: But but in baseball three goal gloves.
17:29
SPEAKER_10: I mean, four-time home run leader, four-time RBI leader.
17:33
SPEAKER_03: In this era, man, there was guys.
17:35
SPEAKER_03: I I want to even say, like, well, Luke Garrick was before him.
17:39
SPEAKER_03: It's harder, it's harder to win a um the uh uh baseball winning a world series.
17:43
SPEAKER_02: In baseball, winning a world series is incredible.
17:45
SPEAKER_02: Like because you're depend you're dependent on really the pitching.
17:48
SPEAKER_02: Like you can't even do so much.
17:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that motherfucker.
17:53
SPEAKER_02: Wait, how are you a 25-time all-star, yo?
17:55
SPEAKER_02: Like, think about that.
17:56
SPEAKER_02: Like, you play 30 fucking years, that's how you do it.
18:00
SPEAKER_02: Oh, oh, hold on.
18:02
SPEAKER_10: Oh, hold on.
18:03
SPEAKER_10: What'd you say?
18:04
SPEAKER_10: Play 30 years.
18:07
SPEAKER_10: Oh, you trying to discredit uh Hank Aaron based on how many years he played?
18:12
SPEAKER_10: Why didn't you?
18:13
SPEAKER_10: I didn't discredit him.
18:14
SPEAKER_03: I said that's how you get to fucking 25 All-Star games.
18:16
SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
18:17
SPEAKER_03: So that's that's how we have.
18:26
SPEAKER_03: Pretend flu.
18:27
SPEAKER_03: I'm sorry, when he really just ate some fucking bad mozzarella sticks.
18:30
SPEAKER_10: Um look at his runs batted in, 2297.
18:34
SPEAKER_10: That's 3000.
18:37
SPEAKER_10: Hank Aaron is like the model of consistency.
18:39
SPEAKER_10: What are you talking about?
18:40
SPEAKER_10: 3000.
18:40
SPEAKER_10: No, somebody got 3000.
18:42
SPEAKER_10: Somebody got 3,000, right?
18:43
SPEAKER_10: But I'm saying, no, hold on.
18:44
SPEAKER_10: Runs batted in?
18:46
SPEAKER_10: No, you're talking about hits.
18:47
SPEAKER_10: 3,000 hit club.
18:49
SPEAKER_10: Let me find out.
18:50
SPEAKER_10: He's almost got four.
18:52
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, look at the top 10.
18:53
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
18:54
SPEAKER_10: I'm just gonna ask the No, somebody may have like a high, but 20, 2300 is pretty high.
19:00
SPEAKER_03: Oh, Hank Aaron holds the record.
19:02
SPEAKER_03: My bad.
19:03
SPEAKER_10: Shit.
19:04
SPEAKER_02: Yo, yo, so he was a 25 time, a 25 time all-star.
19:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's think about that, yo.
19:12
SPEAKER_02: Like, that's insane.
19:14
SPEAKER_03: So, wait, you're giving him credit for longevity stats, but you don't give LeBron credit for the biggest.
19:18
SPEAKER_03: No, no, no, no.
19:19
SPEAKER_10: That's the thing.
19:20
SPEAKER_10: I I think I think they're they're competitive.
19:22
SPEAKER_10: People don't put him up, but people don't, yeah, people don't put him up as like the Yeah, because there were guys like that that that hit better, like like Lou Garrett.
19:29
SPEAKER_10: Because of impact different ways.
19:30
SPEAKER_10: Let me see.
19:31
SPEAKER_10: Playing Impact different ways.
19:33
SPEAKER_10: And that's what we're saying about MJ.
19:35
SPEAKER_02: So Marvel, you're saying MJ is more Willie Mays.
19:37
SPEAKER_10: Like Impact is just yeah, like player-wise.
19:40
SPEAKER_10: Yes, something you've never seen, right?
19:42
SPEAKER_02: Like, I mean, look at look at Mickey Manuel, yo.
19:44
SPEAKER_02: His RBI is only 1509, yo.
19:47
SPEAKER_02: Seven times World Series, got a thousand more 20 all-stars, three MVPs.
19:52
SPEAKER_03: Ank Aaron only won one.
19:53
SPEAKER_03: He did a tri run the triple crown.
19:54
SPEAKER_03: This is more LeBron James than no, because he's on the fucking Yankees.
19:58
SPEAKER_02: No, the Yankees had 17 Hall of Famers, bro.
20:02
SPEAKER_02: He got seven World Series.
20:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
20:05
SPEAKER_10: He didn't play with all 17 of them, motherfuckers.
20:07
SPEAKER_10: This is more MJ.
20:08
SPEAKER_02: This is more MJ.
20:08
SPEAKER_10: Oh, get the fuck out of here.
20:10
SPEAKER_10: Yo, this is more.
20:11
SPEAKER_02: The Yankees, yo, were like, I mean, they're the Yankees.
20:14
SPEAKER_02: They're like they were like the Bulls.
20:15
SPEAKER_02: Like they're beats.
20:19
SPEAKER_02: When you think of when somebody who doesn't care about sports knows who the Yankees are, right?
20:23
SPEAKER_02: Because they just see them winning all the time.
20:25
SPEAKER_10: Like the Bulls, yeah.
20:27
SPEAKER_02: Lou Gehrick, 340 average.
20:29
SPEAKER_03: Seven time.
20:31
SPEAKER_03: Like the Bulls, you know.
20:32
SPEAKER_03: Six time in two-time MVP, triple crown in the 34.
20:36
SPEAKER_03: Yo, baseball stats be crazy.
20:37
SPEAKER_03: Damn.
20:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they'd be yeah.
20:39
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he and Lou Gehrick played in that um, I don't think it was at the couple of years.
20:44
SPEAKER_02: They played like the 50s, right?
20:45
SPEAKER_04: Well, shit, he died in the 40s.
20:48
SPEAKER_03: 23, yeah.
20:48
SPEAKER_03: He was at the tail end of that Dead Bowl area.
20:50
SPEAKER_03: Yo, that that the Dead Bowl area was like they were throwing like a um, it's like you're trying to hit a hit a uh a rock wrapped up with with uh string.
21:00
SPEAKER_03: Yo, go to Willie May's go to yeah, go to Willie May's Willie.
21:04
SPEAKER_03: Go to Willie Mays.
21:05
SPEAKER_10: Do you know the first time um uh sports would televised uh Primetime was uh Monday?
21:10
SPEAKER_03: He was born the same year as my dad, 1931.
21:13
SPEAKER_03: They're the same age.
21:14
SPEAKER_10: And then after that, 72.
21:15
SPEAKER_10: After that, the uh all the sports after that started doing that.
21:20
SPEAKER_02: Go to his career highlights, yo, slide him up a little bit.
21:23
SPEAKER_10: Oh, how many hits?
21:24
SPEAKER_10: Look at that.
21:25
SPEAKER_10: 32, wow.
21:27
SPEAKER_03: 3,000 hit career.
21:28
SPEAKER_03: Willie Maze's the yeah, he's incredible.
21:30
SPEAKER_03: His shit was incredible, yeah.
21:32
SPEAKER_03: Who 301 career batting up?
21:34
SPEAKER_03: But no, no, no.
21:34
SPEAKER_03: 660 home runs.
21:36
SPEAKER_03: No, the best uh player of all time is Ricky Henderson, and I'll show you why.
21:40
SPEAKER_03: Uh Ricky's up there.
21:42
SPEAKER_03: Ricky's up there.
21:43
SPEAKER_03: He is the best of all.
21:44
SPEAKER_03: He's the greatest baseball player of all time.
21:45
SPEAKER_03: Check this out.
21:47
SPEAKER_03: 279, 3,000 hits, 297 home.
21:50
SPEAKER_03: This is a leadoff hitter, by the way.
21:52
SPEAKER_03: I know hitter most runs in NBA.
21:54
SPEAKER_03: I mean MLB history, 1,000 RBI club, which This is crazy to get a thousand RBI and two thousand.
22:04
SPEAKER_10: That's kind of low as a leadoff, though.
22:07
SPEAKER_10: Runs batted in?
22:09
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, that's kind of low as a leadoff.
22:11
SPEAKER_02: No, because when you think about the Marvel Novan because the inner no one's on no one's on base when he comes up.
22:17
SPEAKER_10: Well, no, no, but I'm saying, but no, but I'm saying he comes in uh second, like so.
22:21
SPEAKER_10: If you come on the uh the the the if you're bottom or top or whatever the next inning, he's coming right behind the big hitters.
22:28
SPEAKER_10: So he's not he's ahead of the big hitter.
22:30
SPEAKER_10: No, no, no, if he he's gonna hit first, second, somebody's third, right?
22:34
SPEAKER_10: And then you go to the next inning, and then they're gonna go through and they're gonna go through, right?
22:38
SPEAKER_10: But if people get on base, he comes up, he should be he should be getting more people.
22:42
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the people, okay.
22:43
SPEAKER_03: The the set the the eight seven, eight, and nine follow him, and the eight and the nine is usually uh a uh pitch.
22:49
SPEAKER_03: Your worst your worst hit.
22:52
SPEAKER_03: Or the deck, like the DH uses well, DH is usually just a really good hitter, so they'd be in the middle.
22:57
SPEAKER_03: But nah, I I think you don't have to be able to get it.
23:00
SPEAKER_03: You don't you don't know what you're talking about, just stop talking.
23:02
SPEAKER_03: How many World Series?
23:04
SPEAKER_03: Keep eating your Cheetos, keep eating your Cheetos, bro.
23:07
SPEAKER_10: Well, he should have more.
23:08
SPEAKER_10: So, okay, look up the top for a leadoff hitter.
23:10
SPEAKER_10: Look at the top uh runs batted in for leadoff hitters.
23:12
SPEAKER_10: Let's see.
23:13
SPEAKER_10: Let's see.
23:16
SPEAKER_03: Who has runs bad and in for a leadoff hitter in MLB history?
23:21
SPEAKER_10: Probably itch Ichiro, probably.
23:23
SPEAKER_03: Ichiro?
23:24
SPEAKER_03: Maybe Ichiro.
23:25
SPEAKER_03: Ricky Henderson has the most runs batted in as a leadoff hitter.
23:28
SPEAKER_03: Told you.
23:29
SPEAKER_03: Oh, damn.
23:30
SPEAKER_03: 1100, yeah.
23:32
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
23:32
SPEAKER_02: The thing about Ricky Henderson, yo, he could get a walk and he's he's he's he's scoring.
23:36
SPEAKER_02: Like he he would put so much pressure on the team because he got it.
23:41
SPEAKER_10: How many home runs does Ichiro have?
23:45
SPEAKER_02: Ichiro, each.
23:46
SPEAKER_03: How many home runs does Ichiro have?
23:49
SPEAKER_03: Are you using Siri or Gemini?
23:51
SPEAKER_03: Gemini, bro.
23:53
SPEAKER_03: 117 home runs.
23:55
SPEAKER_03: I mean, Ricky got 300.
23:56
SPEAKER_03: Almost 300.
23:57
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
23:57
SPEAKER_10: No, Rick.
23:59
SPEAKER_10: Because you gotta put him in the category, I feel like.
24:01
SPEAKER_10: The leadoff hitter.
24:02
SPEAKER_03: And he didn't play a long career, by the way.
24:03
SPEAKER_03: He didn't play like 100 million years like everybody else.
24:06
SPEAKER_03: Like, so I think he played 79, 2005.
24:10
SPEAKER_02: Damn.
24:10
SPEAKER_03: He died last year, I think.
24:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
24:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was pretty young.
24:14
SPEAKER_03: Look, two-time World Series with Oakland.
24:16
SPEAKER_03: He could have won a couple with the Yankees with the Yankees.
24:19
SPEAKER_10: Was Ricky was um was um um was what you're calling on that team?
24:23
SPEAKER_10: Um uh Jackson?
24:25
SPEAKER_10: Reggie Jackson?
24:26
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, uh-uh, no.
24:27
SPEAKER_10: He played 25 seasons.
24:28
SPEAKER_10: Because Reggie Jackson played won a couple World Series with the A's, right?
24:32
SPEAKER_10: Oh, yeah.
24:32
SPEAKER_10: Uh he won he won he won four, yeah.
24:34
SPEAKER_02: He won four with the A's and I think three with the Yankees.
24:37
SPEAKER_02: I think he won two with the A's.
24:38
SPEAKER_10: No, uh choose with the A's, I thought.
24:40
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
24:41
SPEAKER_02: Go to go to go to uh Reggie.
24:42
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, Reggie's might be incredible, too.
24:44
SPEAKER_10: He's yeah, but no, Rick Rick, Ricky, just to say.
24:47
SPEAKER_10: No, he's up there, but I wouldn't say best baseball player of all time.
24:50
SPEAKER_03: Comparing most stolen bases.
24:53
SPEAKER_03: Most stolen bases.
24:54
SPEAKER_03: He's probably the best beat-off hitter, though.
24:55
SPEAKER_03: No, I don't okay, whatever.
24:56
SPEAKER_03: I'm not gonna argue with y'all about this.
24:57
SPEAKER_03: Go to Reggie Jackson, go to Reggie Jackson real quick.
24:59
SPEAKER_03: You all think Michael Jackson is still the best.
25:01
SPEAKER_03: No, no, like a Michael Jordan.
25:03
SPEAKER_03: Here we go, here we go.
25:04
SPEAKER_03: Basketball player.
25:05
SPEAKER_03: 500 home runs, 262 hitting.
25:07
SPEAKER_03: You ever see his documentary?
25:09
SPEAKER_03: Yes, yo.
25:11
SPEAKER_03: So he got five, he got five world series.
25:13
SPEAKER_03: Five World Series, yo.
25:14
SPEAKER_03: Oh, wow.
25:15
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he got two with the A's.
25:16
SPEAKER_03: Oh no, wait.
25:17
SPEAKER_03: Uh three with the A's.
25:19
SPEAKER_02: Three with A's, two with the Yankees.
25:20
SPEAKER_03: When they went back to back when he hit the three.
25:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're right.
25:23
SPEAKER_03: Yo, Oakland was no joke back then, boy.
25:25
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, ALMP in 73.
25:28
SPEAKER_03: Damn.
25:29
SPEAKER_02: It's so funny now.
25:30
SPEAKER_02: Base baseball is I mean, I don't know.
25:35
SPEAKER_02: It's I think the players are really good now, but it's not superstars.
25:39
SPEAKER_02: Like, it ain't no like, I mean, you got Otani, but but it's no like like, you know, yeah, we have like Barry Bonds and Mark Maguire.
25:47
SPEAKER_02: It's Otani and Judge now.
25:48
SPEAKER_02: That's it, really.
25:49
SPEAKER_10: I mean, as far as you know, the like the big name that you would like pay to watch.
25:54
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the steroid era was great.
25:56
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, remember the uh Sundays that you could get from the ice cream truck that had the it was the baseball hat, and they they used to put a little his little plastic baseball hat.
26:05
SPEAKER_03: And they yo, Mark Maguire never won an MVP.
26:08
SPEAKER_03: I didn't know that.
26:09
SPEAKER_03: He did.
26:10
SPEAKER_03: He did win rookie of the year, though.
26:11
SPEAKER_03: I remember that, man.
26:12
SPEAKER_03: He had 49 home runs as a rookie or some shit like that.
26:15
SPEAKER_03: That was crazy.
26:18
SPEAKER_03: How many home runs he got?
26:19
SPEAKER_03: Five and 87, yo.
26:21
SPEAKER_03: Five eighty.
26:22
SPEAKER_03: Was he on the steroids back then?
26:24
SPEAKER_03: Probably not.
26:25
SPEAKER_03: Probably.
26:26
SPEAKER_03: Him and Jose, man.
26:27
SPEAKER_10: Look at his runs back then.
26:28
SPEAKER_10: Uh 1400.
26:29
SPEAKER_10: That's weird.
26:30
SPEAKER_03: He won't.
26:31
SPEAKER_03: Oakland won two World Series in that era.
26:33
SPEAKER_03: Oh, huh.
26:34
SPEAKER_03: Didn't they win two in the 90s?
26:36
SPEAKER_02: I think they went every year.
26:39
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if they definitely won that one page San Francisco.
26:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
26:42
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
26:43
SPEAKER_03: Oh, they had some shit with the fucking I fucking hated the Blue Jays back then.
26:47
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
26:48
SPEAKER_10: Look up Cal Ripkin.
26:49
SPEAKER_10: Look up Cal Ripkin's stats.
26:50
SPEAKER_10: I know his stats are very menial, but you know, like very button.
26:55
SPEAKER_03: No, you can compare LeBron to Cal Ripkin.
26:58
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
26:59
SPEAKER_03: From a longevity aspect.
27:01
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
27:02
SPEAKER_10: They like the same.
27:03
SPEAKER_10: All right, let's see.
27:04
SPEAKER_10: Let's see.
27:04
SPEAKER_10: Let's see his shit.
27:05
SPEAKER_10: Calvin Ripkin.
27:06
SPEAKER_10: Damn, he got 3,000 hits.
27:08
SPEAKER_10: No, I remember he got I remember he got the 3,000.
27:10
SPEAKER_10: I watched that game.
27:12
SPEAKER_10: 276, 400 runs.
27:14
SPEAKER_10: 430 home runs?
27:15
SPEAKER_03: 430 home runs for a shortstop, yo.
27:18
SPEAKER_02: That's incredible, yo.
27:19
SPEAKER_02: Run time MVP.
27:22
SPEAKER_02: Kyle Ripkin was a bad month.
27:24
SPEAKER_10: He was 19 times All-Star.
27:25
SPEAKER_03: I think I got his rookie card somewhere.
27:27
SPEAKER_03: 19 times.
27:28
SPEAKER_10: Two times gold glove.
27:29
SPEAKER_10: Eight times Roberto Clemente record.
27:32
SPEAKER_03: Huh.
27:33
SPEAKER_03: Damn.
27:34
SPEAKER_03: Pretty good.
27:34
SPEAKER_03: Pretty good.
27:35
SPEAKER_03: Lou Ripkin was his dad.
27:36
SPEAKER_03: Billy Ripkin was his brother.
27:38
SPEAKER_02: Yo, Kyle Ripkin Sr.
27:39
SPEAKER_02: was his dad.
27:40
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, Kyle Rick Sr.
27:42
SPEAKER_02: It said Lou.
27:42
SPEAKER_02: Who's Lou?
27:44
SPEAKER_02: That's probably maybe it's real.
27:45
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, but it's Cal.
27:47
SPEAKER_03: Maybe his grandfather or something.
27:48
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
27:49
SPEAKER_03: I saw Lou somewhere.
27:50
SPEAKER_03: Maybe I've maybe it was Lou um that the guy on the Orioles.
27:54
SPEAKER_03: Lou.
27:54
SPEAKER_10: Ken Griffey was the shit too.
27:55
SPEAKER_10: Ken Griffey was.
27:57
SPEAKER_03: I wish he won a chip.
27:58
SPEAKER_10: Oh man, me too.
28:00
SPEAKER_02: I would have he had the prettiest swing I've ever seen, yo.
28:03
SPEAKER_02: That shit was just effortless, yo.
28:05
SPEAKER_10: It was just a sweet spot.
28:09
unknown: Yeah.
28:09
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, it was.
28:10
SPEAKER_03: He was a uh lefty too.
28:11
SPEAKER_03: He was incredible.
28:11
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yeah.
28:12
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I'm a lefty.
28:13
SPEAKER_10: Damn, he's still pretty young.
28:14
SPEAKER_10: 56.
28:16
SPEAKER_10: He can still play.
28:16
SPEAKER_03: 284.
28:17
SPEAKER_03: Damn, 630 home runs.
28:19
SPEAKER_03: No.
28:20
SPEAKER_10: Damn.
28:21
unknown: God damn.
28:22
SPEAKER_03: MVP in 97.
28:24
SPEAKER_03: 10 time Golden Glove Award.
28:25
SPEAKER_03: Damn, 10 times.
28:26
SPEAKER_03: 13 time All-Star.
28:27
SPEAKER_03: One time MVP.
28:29
SPEAKER_03: He made it to the series with the Reds, right?
28:32
SPEAKER_03: One year.
28:32
SPEAKER_10: Oh, that I remember that.
28:34
SPEAKER_10: The Reds.
28:34
SPEAKER_03: Did they make it?
28:35
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
28:36
SPEAKER_10: They went, I think that's the farthest.
28:38
SPEAKER_10: No, he went to the World Series with uh Seattle, didn't he?
28:42
SPEAKER_02: I don't think Seattle never got to the World Series.
28:43
SPEAKER_02: They went to the C ALCS.
28:45
SPEAKER_02: Oh.
28:46
SPEAKER_02: They always had to play like Toronto on those things.
28:51
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, remember Ma Maud Shot, the owner of the Reds.
28:54
SPEAKER_03: She was racist as fuck, yeah.
28:55
SPEAKER_03: She's a cranky.
28:57
SPEAKER_03: She's a cranky old white lady.
28:58
SPEAKER_03: Get off my lawn, Negroes.
29:01
SPEAKER_03: Get out of here, you Negroes.
29:04
SPEAKER_03: Anyway, since we're talking to sports shit, how about your man Stephen A.
29:08
SPEAKER_03: Smith?
29:09
SPEAKER_03: No, bro.
29:11
SPEAKER_05: Can I can I interject something?
29:13
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
29:14
SPEAKER_02: First of all, I I found it be very disrespectful that the national black journalist, whatever that is, um, like if you're a journalist, you're a journalist.
29:25
SPEAKER_02: Like, whatever, right?
29:26
SPEAKER_02: Um, I thought it I found it very disrespectful that they would try to diss and discredit him, calling him like a no what is like the nobody thumbs down award or something.
29:37
SPEAKER_02: Here's a man who who he brought a lot of attention to the national black journalists, and he would he would send his show there, first take there, and they would do shows there.
29:47
SPEAKER_02: He added a lot of attention to them, and for them to use him and to disrespect him like that is just wrong.
29:53
SPEAKER_02: Now, I'm not the biggest Stephen A TV fan, but that brother has put in his work, he's putting his effort, okay.
30:00
SPEAKER_02: And okay, so what he has to believe like everyone else in the same thing?
30:04
SPEAKER_02: Why can't he have a different opinion?
30:06
SPEAKER_02: I don't understand how that's a bad thing.
30:08
SPEAKER_03: Nah, it's his opinion and they're shitting on people for no good reason.
30:12
SPEAKER_03: Well, he's in sports media, like I think.
30:15
SPEAKER_03: What does that have to do with the politics and stuff then?
30:18
SPEAKER_03: And he only, I mean, they were citing him for specifically shitting on the city.
30:21
SPEAKER_03: Well, he has no well, he has no opinion.
30:22
SPEAKER_03: He's been shitting on niggas for years, but actually that's what pisses me off.
30:26
SPEAKER_03: That they're not equal opportunity uh like um award givers.
30:30
SPEAKER_03: Like the minute he shits on like Jasmine Crockett, I don't like Jasmine Crockett, and legitimately some of the things that he says about her demeanor and also her politics, like she's a fucking Zionist.
30:41
SPEAKER_03: Um, and I don't think he's a Zionist too, but whatever.
30:43
SPEAKER_03: He shit but but but um I think he like those criticisms are fine in some aspects because I agree with some of them personally.
30:51
SPEAKER_03: Same with uh what's her name?
30:53
SPEAKER_03: What was the other woman with the bald head?
30:55
SPEAKER_03: ALC?
30:55
SPEAKER_03: No, the bald head.
30:56
SPEAKER_03: Oh um you know I'm talking about we just talking about this, Sean.
31:02
SPEAKER_03: What's her name?
31:03
SPEAKER_03: Joy Joy Joy something.
31:05
SPEAKER_03: Oh, Joy Reed, Joy Reed.
31:06
SPEAKER_03: Joy Reed, yeah.
31:07
SPEAKER_03: I never liked her because she flip-flopped a little bit on her positioning and stuff, and she's the shit on progressive, but uh she's changed up a little bit, but now she's like less condescending and stuff.
31:17
SPEAKER_03: But he he had some legit things to say about her, but like all the stuff that he says about black men for the last what 20 some odd years, sitting next to that fucking um skip baylist, you know what I'm saying?
31:30
SPEAKER_03: Pieces of shit.
31:31
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, just talking all that stuff.
31:32
SPEAKER_03: Like these niggas, both of them are were cancer to sports fucking media for over 30 years now, I think.
31:40
SPEAKER_03: Almost 30 years, right?
31:42
SPEAKER_03: And they're the reason why we're here now in this era of not giving credit to greatness like LeBron James or greatness that we see in the middle.
31:54
SPEAKER_03: That's all because he started back to media.
31:57
SPEAKER_10: If we go back to no, come on, if we go back to media, trust me, Jordan went through the the ringer just as much as any other superstar.
32:04
SPEAKER_10: Why'd they criticize him?
32:06
SPEAKER_10: No, because he was a degenerate gambler.
32:08
SPEAKER_10: No, they criticized him on the court in the middle of the room.
32:11
SPEAKER_10: They need to criticize him for losing.
32:13
SPEAKER_10: Oh my goodness.
32:13
SPEAKER_10: When the never no, he never when the gambling thing happened, when the gambling thing happened, it's like it's like saying it's like how you average 30 points in the fucking season and can't get out the second round in the playoffs.
32:26
SPEAKER_03: That's Jordan.
32:27
SPEAKER_03: Every star athlete that was Jordan.
32:29
SPEAKER_10: He criticized LeBron for losing in the finals.
32:31
SPEAKER_10: But you're missing, but you're missing the point.
32:32
SPEAKER_10: Every star athlete's gonna face criticism.
32:34
SPEAKER_10: I don't care who playing.
32:35
SPEAKER_10: No, no, no, no.
32:35
SPEAKER_10: That was legitimate criticism.
32:37
SPEAKER_03: Meaning that you are the best player in the fucking league and you can't get out the fucking fucking round.
32:41
SPEAKER_03: Okay, let's even the LeBron loses to the best team ever created in the finals.
32:45
SPEAKER_10: And okay, he doesn't deserve to let's even the fucking let's even the playing cobby.
32:49
SPEAKER_10: Let's even the playing field.
32:51
SPEAKER_10: No, I'm just gonna say to you something.
32:53
SPEAKER_10: Let's even the playing field.
32:54
SPEAKER_10: I'm gonna agree with what you're saying.
32:55
SPEAKER_10: Who gives a fuck?
32:56
SPEAKER_10: People are gonna receive fair.
32:58
SPEAKER_10: No, people no, I'm talking about criticism.
33:00
SPEAKER_10: You're gonna receive fair criticism and you're gonna receive unfair criticism if you're an athlete, if you're a star, if you're in a public.
33:09
SPEAKER_03: No one can bail us.
33:10
SPEAKER_03: No, no, no, no.
33:10
SPEAKER_03: I'm asking you specifically LeBron James.
33:13
SPEAKER_03: You did he ever get fair criticism from the saddle?
33:17
SPEAKER_10: Why do you have the saddle?
33:18
SPEAKER_10: Take get off the saddle for one second.
33:20
SPEAKER_10: You can get right.
33:21
SPEAKER_10: I'm asking you about one specific player.
33:23
SPEAKER_10: No, no, no.
33:23
SPEAKER_10: No, because it's the biggest.
33:24
SPEAKER_10: But you can hop back on the side.
33:26
SPEAKER_10: You're not gonna answer that question because you know what the answer is.
33:28
SPEAKER_10: I'm gonna answer the question, but just allow me to explain because how I'm gonna explain is that the yes or no question.
33:34
SPEAKER_10: No, it's not a yes or no question.
33:36
SPEAKER_10: Every player, no, every player player.
33:39
SPEAKER_10: Okay, yes, every star athlete, top, uh, pick a one, soccer Ronaldo.
33:45
SPEAKER_10: Um, yes, they all face are you kidding me?
33:48
SPEAKER_10: Not the same way.
33:49
SPEAKER_10: Oh my god.
33:50
SPEAKER_10: Are you?
33:50
SPEAKER_03: I saw this, I saw this this clip the other day that that really hit me.
33:53
SPEAKER_03: Uh, okay.
33:54
SPEAKER_03: During the bubble, the the the fucking um the COVID, the COVID, 2020.
33:58
SPEAKER_03: This is why is why no, why is that Lakers championship the only one that's ever criticized?
34:04
SPEAKER_02: Now you post you posted that in the thread.
34:05
SPEAKER_02: I can tell you why.
34:06
SPEAKER_02: I didn't have time to do it then because I was eating some granola bars and yogurt.
34:11
SPEAKER_10: Why is the Lakers what?
34:12
SPEAKER_10: Why is the Lakers doing what?
34:15
SPEAKER_10: Let me tell you why.
34:15
SPEAKER_10: Let me tell you why that let me tell you why that's the 55 game season.
34:18
SPEAKER_10: People do that with as well.
34:20
SPEAKER_10: Why are we pretending people do that with the hold?
34:24
SPEAKER_02: Let me let me see this.
34:25
SPEAKER_02: First of all, the social media landscape now is a hundred times more amplified than when we were growing up.
34:31
SPEAKER_02: All we had was ESPN in newspapers.
34:34
SPEAKER_02: Literally, we had to read newspapers to find out who won.
34:37
SPEAKER_02: Nowadays, it's on your phones everywhere.
34:39
SPEAKER_02: The second thing, the reason that I felt that the that bubble Mickey Mouse fake championship COVID thing.
34:46
SPEAKER_02: Okay, the reason why, and don't get me wrong, it was I I oh, it's it's it it it should count like a third championship, like a third of a championship, right?
34:54
SPEAKER_02: Not a full one.
34:55
SPEAKER_02: Why do you think I think why?
34:56
SPEAKER_02: Because if you remember, the season stopped in March.
35:00
SPEAKER_02: Remember, that's when Rudy Gobert and that's when COVID shit hit.
35:05
SPEAKER_02: The Lakers were a good team.
35:06
SPEAKER_02: Who's the best?
35:07
SPEAKER_02: The Lakers were a good team, then I agree.
35:09
SPEAKER_02: They had the best record in the league.
35:11
SPEAKER_02: Now, now now think about you play in March, but then in three months later, you come back.
35:15
SPEAKER_02: That can't be considered the same type of season.
35:20
SPEAKER_02: That has to have an asterisk to it.
35:22
SPEAKER_10: That's a whole off season.
35:23
SPEAKER_02: That's that's a whole off-season, bro.
35:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's the entire three months off.
35:28
SPEAKER_02: Now, I the conditions were crazy, but it has to have an asterisk to it.
35:33
SPEAKER_02: It has to.
35:34
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
35:34
SPEAKER_02: Because in those three months, yeah, in those three months, who wouldn't have said AD wanted twisted an ankle because he's fragile as fuck anyway, right?
35:41
SPEAKER_10: When you take three months off in a season, yeah, in between the seasons, and and and then you finish it three months later, you're gonna say that.
35:49
SPEAKER_10: That has to have some that can't be the same.
35:52
SPEAKER_10: Like, just logically.
35:54
SPEAKER_10: So if the NBA said to you right now, after during COVID, they said, you know what, this is just the safest thing, and we're gonna do the thing.
36:06
SPEAKER_02: Why are you bringing up Jordan?
36:06
SPEAKER_02: Why Jordan two and a half years off?
36:09
SPEAKER_02: But why are you bringing up Jordan?
36:11
SPEAKER_03: Yes, it has to be.
36:12
SPEAKER_03: But why are you bringing up Jordan?
36:13
SPEAKER_03: Can I can I explain why?
36:14
SPEAKER_03: No, let me just go.
36:15
SPEAKER_03: No, it has nothing to do with taking three and a half months during the season.
36:19
SPEAKER_02: Yes, when it when Kidding, we went to another same.
36:22
SPEAKER_02: Who cares?
36:23
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
36:23
SPEAKER_10: Then he came back, then he came back and won three in a row.
36:26
SPEAKER_10: For him to go to the Eastern Conference Finals all the time.
36:31
SPEAKER_03: That don't count.
36:32
SPEAKER_03: That don't count.
36:33
SPEAKER_02: No, he won three.
36:34
SPEAKER_02: He won two bad.
36:35
SPEAKER_02: He won two three peats.
36:36
SPEAKER_02: No one said he won six in a feet.
36:38
SPEAKER_10: I agree.
36:40
SPEAKER_10: Two three peats.
36:40
SPEAKER_10: Two three peats.
36:41
SPEAKER_10: Everybody says six in six.
36:42
SPEAKER_10: Two three peats.
36:43
SPEAKER_10: No, no, two, three peats.
36:46
SPEAKER_10: Six in a row.
36:46
SPEAKER_10: You know what?
36:47
SPEAKER_10: You know what?
36:47
SPEAKER_10: To me, honestly, to me, two three peats sound better than six in a row.
36:51
SPEAKER_10: To me, personally.
36:54
SPEAKER_10: Like, I did three in a row.
36:57
SPEAKER_10: Winning six in a row is clear.
36:59
SPEAKER_10: No, because you thought it was over.
37:00
SPEAKER_10: Possible.
37:01
SPEAKER_10: Like, six in a row.
37:02
SPEAKER_10: Nobody's ever won six in a row.
37:04
SPEAKER_02: And more importantly, more importantly, the Celtics.
37:07
SPEAKER_02: We have a whole new team.
37:10
SPEAKER_02: Horace Grant's gone.
37:11
SPEAKER_02: We have Dennis Robin.
37:12
SPEAKER_02: I'm older.
37:13
SPEAKER_02: Pippin's Grant.
37:14
SPEAKER_02: The leading motive.
37:15
SPEAKER_02: So we replaced him with a better player.
37:17
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
37:19
SPEAKER_02: The point I'm making is I don't even compare Michael Jordan to you're wild.
37:24
SPEAKER_02: The bubble has nothing to do with Michael Jordan.
37:26
SPEAKER_02: The bubble has anything to do with it.
37:31
SPEAKER_02: They took three months off, Hugh.
37:33
SPEAKER_02: Like, imagine that.
37:34
SPEAKER_02: Like, just think about doing anything in life.
37:37
SPEAKER_02: What do you mean, so what?
37:38
SPEAKER_03: Everybody, it's a it's still a level playing field.
37:41
SPEAKER_03: So what are you talking about?
37:43
SPEAKER_03: It's not level.
37:44
SPEAKER_02: If anything, teams, teams, it's not level.
37:47
SPEAKER_02: You played at Disney World.
37:49
SPEAKER_02: How is that level?
37:50
SPEAKER_02: Okay, Hugh, Hugh.
37:51
SPEAKER_10: All right, Hugh, let me give this example.
37:53
SPEAKER_10: You were playing in an open gym environment that was neutral.
37:56
SPEAKER_10: Hugh, let me give this example.
37:57
SPEAKER_10: Let me give this example.
37:58
SPEAKER_10: Let's say COVID had happened during the playoffs, and I want your honest answer for this.
38:04
SPEAKER_10: So let's say it's first round of playoffs, right?
38:06
SPEAKER_10: COVID happened during the playoffs.
38:09
SPEAKER_10: Playoffs are active.
38:10
SPEAKER_10: Every team is two, three games in a series.
38:13
SPEAKER_10: Then you take three months off.
38:15
SPEAKER_10: You're gonna sit here and tell me, playing through in that moment, that whatever team was gonna win at that point was gonna win.
38:21
SPEAKER_10: You're gonna tell me with certainty you feel like it would not change.
38:24
SPEAKER_10: No, be honest with you.
38:26
SPEAKER_10: What are you talking about?
38:27
SPEAKER_10: Oh my god, you're missing the point.
38:29
SPEAKER_10: Like by my point.
38:30
SPEAKER_10: What point are you talking about?
38:31
SPEAKER_10: You're gonna tell me that it would be the same re the same result?
38:36
SPEAKER_10: Like you're telling me everything.
38:37
SPEAKER_10: You said it was gonna be the same result.
38:39
SPEAKER_10: No, but yes, that's what we're saying.
38:40
SPEAKER_10: Okay, let me tell you an outlier from the bubble.
38:42
SPEAKER_03: Portland was a terrible team.
38:44
SPEAKER_03: We're saying it changed.
38:47
SPEAKER_03: We're saying the result.
38:48
SPEAKER_10: No, Pew, no, let's do that.
38:49
SPEAKER_10: Niggas coming off the bench was dropping.
38:51
SPEAKER_10: Remember back in algebra, we're just trying to solve for let's just make it all right.
38:55
SPEAKER_10: Niggas is dropping 50 off the bench in the bubble.
38:57
SPEAKER_10: We're not talking about teams, yo.
38:59
SPEAKER_10: Nothing about teams.
39:00
SPEAKER_10: No, I'm just saying everybody stepped up.
39:02
SPEAKER_10: It was more competitive.
39:03
SPEAKER_03: Everybody stepped up their game.
39:04
SPEAKER_03: It was a neutral playing.
39:07
SPEAKER_03: Everybody, okay.
39:07
SPEAKER_03: We're just gonna make a point.
39:09
SPEAKER_03: No, ask any player that played it.
39:11
SPEAKER_03: Ask the athletes that were missing in the bubble.
39:14
SPEAKER_03: Not the idiot who was watching it at home saying, no, this is not fair because my team's not winning.
39:19
SPEAKER_10: Okay, you're talking about the bubble.
39:20
SPEAKER_10: I'm talking about what if the bubble, right, started.
39:23
SPEAKER_10: Well, let's say people were the teams were in the playoffs, right?
39:26
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, first round playoffs, and then three months later, right?
39:30
SPEAKER_10: Everything's normal.
39:31
SPEAKER_10: First round playoffs are happening, right?
39:34
SPEAKER_10: Everything's normal.
39:35
SPEAKER_10: Three months later, they go into a bubble, change everything, and they have to finish the playoffs in the bubble.
39:42
SPEAKER_10: You're sitting here and gonna tell me I don't care about Lakers, not Bulls.
39:44
SPEAKER_10: This ain't about none of that.
39:46
SPEAKER_03: This is not what happened, though.
39:47
SPEAKER_10: Oh my god.
39:47
SPEAKER_10: Um, but we're giving you an example of three months off.
39:50
SPEAKER_10: So what the flick is.
39:52
SPEAKER_03: They finished the regular season in the bubble.
39:54
SPEAKER_03: Everybody got used to the conditions, and it was neutral.
39:58
SPEAKER_02: Used to playing at Disney World?
40:00
SPEAKER_02: Come on, Hugh.
40:01
SPEAKER_02: Like, yo, yo, you act like they were playing, they're shooting through T couple.
40:05
SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm honestly, yo, it's it's a it's a hell of an accomplishment, and we respect it.
40:10
SPEAKER_02: It's just you cannot consider it now.
40:12
SPEAKER_02: You can I do respect it.
40:14
SPEAKER_02: It was cool.
40:17
SPEAKER_02: It doesn't matter.
40:18
SPEAKER_02: It doesn't matter.
40:19
SPEAKER_02: I know you take three months off doing I don't give a shit if you're anything.
40:24
SPEAKER_02: Tell them, are you an athlete?
40:26
SPEAKER_03: You have an advantage then?
40:27
SPEAKER_02: If you have three months off, it's not about an advantage, they're saying you cannot consider that normal.
40:33
SPEAKER_02: You just can't.
40:34
SPEAKER_02: It's not a normal championship.
40:36
SPEAKER_02: The 55 season the 55 game season wasn't normal.
40:40
SPEAKER_03: Okay, but Lakers would be a good one.
40:42
SPEAKER_03: But they put but they played a 55-game season and they played the bubble the best team.
40:47
SPEAKER_02: And that's a possibility.
40:48
SPEAKER_02: We're not disputing that.
40:49
SPEAKER_02: But in that three months, you don't know what could have happened.
40:52
SPEAKER_03: You know what, you know what, you know what's not like when MJ did this.
40:55
SPEAKER_03: He took two years off.
40:56
SPEAKER_03: You know what the funny thing is?
40:59
SPEAKER_10: You know what the funny thing is?
41:01
SPEAKER_10: You know what the funny thing is?
41:01
SPEAKER_10: I'm gonna sum it up.
41:02
SPEAKER_10: I'm gonna sum it up very easily.
41:05
SPEAKER_10: Oh, here we go.
41:06
SPEAKER_10: I'm gonna there's there's two there's two examples in which we define and we have a moniker for that championship.
41:12
SPEAKER_10: One's a 55-game season, and one's the bubble.
41:14
SPEAKER_10: The rest are just a championship.
41:16
SPEAKER_10: We'll leave it at that.
41:17
SPEAKER_10: You can take it however you want to take it, but we describe them differently.
41:20
SPEAKER_10: So you want to describe it the same.
41:22
SPEAKER_10: We describe it differently just by our lexicon.
41:24
SPEAKER_10: We describe it differently, just talking about it.
41:26
SPEAKER_10: The bubble the bubble championship.
41:28
SPEAKER_10: We don't say we don't say the 2000 whatever champions, we say the bubble champions.
41:32
SPEAKER_10: Right.
41:32
SPEAKER_10: Right?
41:33
SPEAKER_10: We say the 96 Bulls, right?
41:35
SPEAKER_10: It's different the year they played and won.
41:37
SPEAKER_10: You know what I'm saying?
41:39
SPEAKER_10: 72 or 10.
41:40
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, exactly.
41:41
SPEAKER_02: Like, well, that was luck, though, I bet.
41:44
SPEAKER_03: That was luck, right?
41:44
SPEAKER_03: LeBron beat a 70.
41:46
SPEAKER_03: Well, they were the best team, and they are the best team won that year, right?
41:50
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
41:50
SPEAKER_02: LeBron beat the best team ever.
41:53
unknown: No.
41:54
SPEAKER_02: The best team ever is the 72 to 10 Bulls.
41:57
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
41:58
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
41:58
SPEAKER_02: That's the best team ever.
42:00
SPEAKER_02: Because they won.
42:02
SPEAKER_02: On the Earth.
42:03
SPEAKER_02: I mean, why do you think that's the one?
42:05
SPEAKER_02: You think they can beat the KD Warriors?
42:07
SPEAKER_02: And they got they got Michael Jordan on the team?
42:09
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
42:10
SPEAKER_02: I'm not betting against him.
42:11
SPEAKER_02: I don't care.
42:12
SPEAKER_02: I don't care.
42:13
SPEAKER_02: I'm not betting against him.
42:17
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
42:18
SPEAKER_02: You know who Luke Longley was, you know, Luke Longley was the one.
42:22
SPEAKER_02: They got Michael Jordan?
42:23
SPEAKER_02: That's all that counts.
42:25
SPEAKER_02: And by the way, let me let me tell you also would beat the Warriors.
42:26
SPEAKER_02: With this had Michael Jordan, too.
42:28
SPEAKER_02: What do you do there?
42:29
SPEAKER_02: Let me tell you who also beat the 73 and 9 uh um Warriors, the 2001 Lakers with shit out of them.
42:36
SPEAKER_02: I agree.
42:37
SPEAKER_02: I agree.
42:39
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no.
42:40
SPEAKER_03: Y'all just making up fantasy tales and shit.
42:43
SPEAKER_03: Go beat face jam.
42:44
SPEAKER_03: That's face jam tonight.
42:46
SPEAKER_03: Go beat up the face jam tonight.
42:47
SPEAKER_03: That would be harder against the shit.
42:49
SPEAKER_03: That's what y'all do.
42:50
SPEAKER_03: That shit's crazy.
42:51
SPEAKER_02: 100% crazy.
42:52
SPEAKER_02: You talking about Shaq?
42:53
SPEAKER_02: Okay, Shaq?
42:54
SPEAKER_02: Prime Shaq and Kobe?
42:56
SPEAKER_02: Come on, yo.
42:57
SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't know that's why I don't even like I don't even know who was really believing.
43:00
SPEAKER_02: Prime Shaq and Kobe.
43:01
SPEAKER_03: Yes, against the 72 and they would destroy Golden School.
43:08
SPEAKER_10: Who's guarding Kobe?
43:09
SPEAKER_10: Who's guarding Kobe?
43:10
SPEAKER_03: A lot of people could guard Kobe.
43:12
SPEAKER_03: Oh god.
43:13
SPEAKER_03: Remember, he gives up when he's gonna be in the finals when he don't feel like playing.
43:19
SPEAKER_10: Let's let's throw all the bullshit out.
43:20
SPEAKER_10: Who's guarding Golden?
43:22
SPEAKER_03: Yo, you gotta think about think about who he was the second best player on that team.
43:27
SPEAKER_03: Second best.
43:28
SPEAKER_03: And he didn't even average well in those finals like that, compared to what Shaq was doing.
43:33
SPEAKER_03: Now, mind you, it was his first run, but that wasn't his best performance.
43:38
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
43:38
SPEAKER_03: Okay, okay.
43:39
SPEAKER_10: All right, so what's the next one?
43:40
SPEAKER_10: Well, let's just move on.
43:41
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
43:41
SPEAKER_10: So you don't, you know.
43:42
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
43:44
SPEAKER_03: You know, after that, this was averaging 35 a game and all that other shit, right?
43:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
43:48
SPEAKER_03: And then they they when he was with Mark uh Mark Paul Gasol, he was that that was I don't know.
43:54
SPEAKER_10: I got uh I don't know.
43:55
SPEAKER_10: I just you don't know.
44:10
SPEAKER_10: But the point I was making before we had to prove now, what were we about to say?
44:16
SPEAKER_03: Nothing.
44:19
SPEAKER_10: No, I was just saying, like, with I I I I agree with like Ud's point with regards to the whole thing as far as working the way look, he he he has a position because of the way he acts.
44:34
SPEAKER_10: It's like, and and and and we need to stop this whole intertwine bullshit, right?
44:39
SPEAKER_10: Like Judge Judy, right?
44:40
SPEAKER_10: The way she dis talks to people with acts, it's glorified, right?
44:44
SPEAKER_10: She's a judge, no one gives a fuck.
44:45
SPEAKER_10: I love Judge Judy.
44:46
SPEAKER_10: No shots of Judge Judy.
44:48
SPEAKER_10: But he's a he's kind of a shock jock journalist, like you know, excitement type.
44:52
SPEAKER_10: Howard Stern type.
44:53
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, like he he's gonna speak and he has his own platform, so he's gonna be able to speak his mind.
44:57
SPEAKER_10: And I think that at the end of the day, when we go back to the comments and things like that, look, it's it he's talking very flippant in his own way, but he's not disrespecting like he's talking like yo, like I don't fuck with that or this.
45:11
SPEAKER_10: So he's giving his opinion of things, and that's what we get.
45:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I I don't I like you don't have to like Stephen A.
45:19
SPEAKER_02: Smith per se, but he has his shtick the same way Pat McAfee has his shtick, and you know that motherfucker's everywhere.
45:27
SPEAKER_02: He doesn't get half the uh the the hate that Stephen A.
45:30
SPEAKER_02: Smith does.
45:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but Steven Smith is so he's like anti-black, yo.
45:33
SPEAKER_03: He like he just really just hates the anti-black.
45:37
SPEAKER_02: He went to he went to HBCU school, he gives a lot of money and a lot of effort and why because he because he doesn't vote Democrat?
45:44
SPEAKER_03: No, it's not about voting Democrat, it's about understanding shit about black culture and understanding like how like he shits on any greatness that black people do and has this like what like what what do you think I'm talking about with the sports stuff.
45:58
SPEAKER_10: He's always the Kyrie Irving situation, but they always talk everybody does well what the what the um oh the um vaccination yeah no he's always like putting these people down while you know at the same time now, mind you, I don't know how what his did he have an opinion on on um Aaron Rodgers and the vaccine?
46:18
SPEAKER_03: I don't remember.
46:19
SPEAKER_10: Well, I think probably not because he didn't well ESPN in general, I think they were all kind of going at Aaron Rodgers because he was Aaron Rodgers made a point to talk about that everybody on ESPN was talking crazy when he was on the Pat McAfee show.
46:31
SPEAKER_10: The McAfee show, right?
46:32
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
46:33
SPEAKER_03: Well, either way, I just I never really appreciated his kind, mainly because of the LeBron stuff, but you don't know anything.
46:39
SPEAKER_02: So what's he supposed to do?
46:40
SPEAKER_02: I'm just curious, I'm just curious.
46:41
SPEAKER_02: So what he supposed to just like like rub LeBron's feet every day, like what's his no, no, no, be objective.
46:48
SPEAKER_02: Well, he yo, he I think he said LeBron James is one of the top four or five players he's ever seen.
46:53
SPEAKER_02: That's what he's he's one of the best players I've ever seen.
46:56
SPEAKER_10: Like, what about the thing is when he had his monologue, when he had a monologue though, after and he said when he explained everything, I thought he kind of explained everything kind of on point, and he was he he addressed all the things.
47:08
SPEAKER_10: I think one thing about Stephen A, and I think it's a problem is when you're a public figure, is if you don't run away from things and you address things, you're gonna have problems.
47:16
SPEAKER_10: Whatever, whatever way you stand.
47:18
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, if you if you if you play the dumb role and you try to kumbaya and everything, but if you address things, it's almost like in business, right?
47:28
SPEAKER_10: Like sometimes you'll lose business because you're firm on your position with a client or what have you, and sometimes you'll accept it and eat shit and keep it moving, right?
47:36
SPEAKER_10: Right.
47:36
SPEAKER_10: Some people just have a line, and I feel like he has that line, and he can he expresses that line very eloquently.
47:43
SPEAKER_10: I don't think he's ever talking crazy when he's putting getting his point across.
47:47
SPEAKER_10: So I think there's something to be said about about that, and I think that if with the the the Black Journalist Association, as far as that whole situation, the history he has with that organization coming through the ranks, there should have been more tact with them getting with him behind the scenes if there was some issues that they wanted to address, yes, and maybe have a forum or something privately, or you know, to embarrass with college campuses or something to talk about these things, talk about these issues and kind of educate.
48:18
SPEAKER_10: But I think every time, you know, the the the anyone who who's black in power, especially a male figure, and and we talked about this, Hugh, the protected class, the protected class is the is the is the black woman, and we understand that.
48:33
SPEAKER_10: I understand that as it as she should be, because you know, she's probably been mostly disenfranchised, right?
48:39
SPEAKER_10: But the relationship with black men and white men are completely different than the relationship with black women and white men, white men, so so there's a different dichotomy there.
48:48
SPEAKER_10: So, you know, Stephen A is operating within that realm, and he's trying to express himself within that realm.
48:56
SPEAKER_10: And it's hard to express yourself and be a public figure and address things and and not have somebody have their feelings hurt, you know.
49:04
SPEAKER_10: Um but I think he is poignant, and yeah, I think he's poignant in the way he speaks about how he goes through.
49:09
SPEAKER_10: I don't think he just comes off the hip.
49:11
SPEAKER_02: It doesn't, it doesn't come off like like wow at all.
49:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think it's I don't know.
49:16
SPEAKER_02: I I don't know.
49:17
SPEAKER_02: I I found that to be so like corny on their part.
49:20
SPEAKER_02: Like just to just to try to like diss them and try to like yeah, I I I like it.
49:26
SPEAKER_02: That shit was whack.
49:27
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think it should have been dressed privately, and that's another thing, and this is like a big difference between the black and white community, especially the powerful, how they handle their business.
49:36
SPEAKER_03: They did that, especially it being a very prestigious, you know, thing.
49:41
SPEAKER_03: They um they didn't handle, yeah, like you said, they should have had a closed door meeting or something like that, address the issues and and and collaborate or do something positive rather than and and maybe he'll change his tune.
49:53
SPEAKER_03: But now you shit on him, he's gonna shit on you.
49:55
SPEAKER_03: He's now he's doing he's he's getting more press from it.
49:58
SPEAKER_03: It makes them look silly because he's been shitting on black men for 30 years and you didn't say nothing about that.
50:04
SPEAKER_03: So it's like it's it's crazy.
50:07
SPEAKER_03: And I and I and that's one thing about our especially on social media in the social media era, you know, the crabs in the barrel mentality, even though you know Stephen A.
50:15
SPEAKER_10: Swiss is arguably a piece of shit, but I I I don't think look as much as he really don't mess with Steve, but like yeah, damn, he's not on your Kwanzaa list this year, my Kwanzaa list, yeah.
50:28
SPEAKER_02: I mean, damn, bro.
50:29
SPEAKER_02: Like, what like Jerry Christian is on my Kwanzaa list?
50:32
SPEAKER_03: No Stephen A.
50:32
SPEAKER_03: Swift.
50:33
SPEAKER_03: You don't like Stephen A.
50:34
SPEAKER_03: Smith's shtick, or you don't like what he's saying, or you don't think he's don't like him.
50:39
SPEAKER_03: He's a coon and fucking he's just he's just pandering the white people to get some shit.
50:43
SPEAKER_03: Like, like did why would you hear him talking like this years ago?
50:47
SPEAKER_02: Come on, people grow and develop, though.
50:52
SPEAKER_03: Why do I gotta be the same?
50:53
SPEAKER_03: No, dog.
50:54
SPEAKER_03: He flipped, he flipped, he flipped, and it's not sincere either, because he doesn't know, he don't know a goddamn thing about politics, and he's yapping about politics every day now.
51:02
SPEAKER_10: Well, I think well, again, I think it goes back to having a platform, and it and if you feel right, it it's it's hard, it's like if you have a platform, your platform is primarily you you speaking, right?
51:15
SPEAKER_10: Your opinion, your your opinion's gonna bleed through.
51:17
SPEAKER_10: He he's has a podcast, he has all the stuff, so he's gonna address different things just the same way we are, right?
51:22
SPEAKER_10: And someone's gonna have the same opinion of those opinions that we have, right?
51:27
SPEAKER_10: So we have to at some point, you know, allow for that.
51:30
SPEAKER_10: And look, he's had the number one show, sports show and sports center, what, 14 plus years, whatever.
51:36
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, and so what he's created is working, and what he's created in a big network top of the echelon is working for the masses, right?
51:45
SPEAKER_10: So he he has some kind of viability in his opinion because people gravitate towards what he's what he's created.
51:51
SPEAKER_10: So we have to give him at least that, you know.
51:53
SPEAKER_10: I think we have in these disagreements, no one ever comes together and and talks about these in an open forum and open setting so that we can intelligently address them instead of the back and forth misconstrued back, you know, social media banter, commenting, and all this kind of thing.
52:11
SPEAKER_10: So it comes straight from the horse's mouth, right?
52:13
SPEAKER_10: They should get together, have an open forum, educate the people as far as his position, their position, take questions from the audience.
52:20
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, exactly.
52:21
SPEAKER_10: Questions from the audience, opinions from the audience, right?
52:24
SPEAKER_10: Let's get a real world uh dictation of like what's really going on because everything is always social media, it's all clicks and shit like corny.
52:34
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, so hopefully that they do that.
52:37
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, they need to they need they also need to issue an apology.
52:40
SPEAKER_02: They say, yo, my bad.
52:41
SPEAKER_02: We were out of line with that.
52:43
SPEAKER_02: We Stephen A.
52:44
SPEAKER_02: Smith has been a member for 25 years.
52:46
SPEAKER_02: It was just wrong.
52:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, is that an award they give that out every year?
52:50
SPEAKER_03: Is that just a new thing for him?
52:52
SPEAKER_10: No, they give it out randomly.
52:54
SPEAKER_10: I never heard of it, but it's apparently a thing with the thumbs down award.
52:57
SPEAKER_03: It looks so stupid.
52:58
SPEAKER_10: No.
53:00
SPEAKER_03: I'm looking up real quick.
53:02
SPEAKER_03: But uh, since we're on Coons, what do y'all think about this Officer Tatum guy?
53:07
SPEAKER_03: Like, I mean, he's been actually Officer Tatum.
53:10
SPEAKER_03: Who's that?
53:11
SPEAKER_03: Oh, he's been in the house.
53:12
SPEAKER_03: That nigga's been trying to discredit the Nolan Wells family in case.
53:16
SPEAKER_03: That big black motherfucker that's that loves the okay.
53:19
SPEAKER_02: You never seen him before?
53:20
SPEAKER_02: No, let me get a clip of this guy.
53:22
SPEAKER_03: Oh my god, yo.
53:24
SPEAKER_03: Um you you never heard of him?
53:28
SPEAKER_03: I know, I know Sean has.
53:31
SPEAKER_03: Sean agrees with like 90% of the things that he says.
53:34
SPEAKER_03: Let me check this cat out.
53:37
SPEAKER_03: Let me check this cat out.
53:38
SPEAKER_03: I'm looking up a good clip.
53:40
SPEAKER_03: Um, actually, should I go to his?
53:42
SPEAKER_03: He got a YouTube channel?
53:44
SPEAKER_03: God dang.
53:45
SPEAKER_03: One can say he's a yo, this guy just makes me mad.
53:48
SPEAKER_03: He reminds me of them.
53:49
SPEAKER_03: Um, what was that movie?
53:55
SPEAKER_03: Nah, just sort of I just want to give a shout out.
53:59
SPEAKER_10: I just want to give a shout out to MJ real quick, greatest player of all time.
54:05
SPEAKER_02: And he's opening up hospitals around here.
54:07
SPEAKER_02: Guy's great, right?
54:09
SPEAKER_02: He's a great man.
54:11
SPEAKER_10: Where LeBron school's at?
54:12
SPEAKER_10: Is LeBron school still popping?
54:14
SPEAKER_10: Where's the grandchild class?
54:15
SPEAKER_10: How come that's never on Twitter?
54:18
SPEAKER_10: I know that for just but no, why don't we ever see that?
54:20
SPEAKER_10: Like, is is you don't follow uninterrupted and all that shit?
54:23
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
54:25
SPEAKER_02: I know they had the lowest reading in the state at school, but that's another thing.
54:28
SPEAKER_02: Really?
54:28
SPEAKER_02: Is that true?
54:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
54:30
SPEAKER_02: Look it up, man.
54:31
SPEAKER_02: Wow, wow.
54:32
SPEAKER_02: Just like Martin Scorsese owns uh.
54:35
SPEAKER_03: Wait, no, no, you said he's a godfather or something like that.
54:38
SPEAKER_03: This is all true, huh?
54:38
SPEAKER_03: Francis World Club was Francis, whatever the fuck.
54:41
SPEAKER_03: You said we'll go with Type.
54:43
SPEAKER_10: Well, it was uh it was Puzo, it was the author, right?
54:45
SPEAKER_10: That wrote that Marco.
54:46
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, Mario Puzo, yeah.
54:47
SPEAKER_10: James.
54:49
SPEAKER_10: Well, I want to see this guy Tatum, yo.
54:50
SPEAKER_10: Who's and that's him right there?
54:52
SPEAKER_10: Oh, yeah, yeah.
54:54
SPEAKER_03: School literacy, LeBron James School Literacy.
54:56
SPEAKER_03: Let's see.
54:57
SPEAKER_03: So it came up in the promise of uh students from the bottom 25 reading scores.
55:03
SPEAKER_03: Okay, the bottom 25 reading.
55:05
SPEAKER_03: School literacy and math essentially rage with single digit proficiency in reading through school single digit for proficiency?
55:12
SPEAKER_10: Is that a school or a summer camp?
55:14
SPEAKER_10: Like, what the hell is going on?
55:15
SPEAKER_10: Doesn't he I mean don't they take like really like it's a noble thing.
55:22
SPEAKER_02: It's a noble thing.
55:24
SPEAKER_10: No, no, no.
55:24
SPEAKER_10: And they and they and they and they give them housing and stuff.
55:26
SPEAKER_10: So I'm yeah, yeah.
55:28
SPEAKER_02: So it's a lot of factors there.
55:29
SPEAKER_02: I'm just fucking.
55:29
SPEAKER_03: Well, I'm not I'm not I don't nah.
55:31
SPEAKER_03: Either way, they should be doing better.
55:32
SPEAKER_03: I agree.
55:34
SPEAKER_03: That's I mean, if you're actually forcing these kids to learn and giving them new shoes and clothes and housing, fuck at it.
55:39
SPEAKER_03: You better fucking.
55:40
SPEAKER_03: I mean, they're gonna grow, they gotta grow up eventually, right?
55:42
SPEAKER_03: It's like it's like okay, Terry was 12 six years ago.
55:46
SPEAKER_03: Criticism.
55:48
SPEAKER_03: Wait, listen, listen.
55:48
SPEAKER_03: In 2018, um, costs of school reportedly amounted to 8 million, which were by some perceived to be a burden on taxpayers living in comp uh comparative low-income school districts.
55:59
SPEAKER_03: Uh parents who met the criteria to enroll their children in the school, but were unable to do so.
56:07
SPEAKER_10: Criteria and children?
56:08
SPEAKER_10: What are you reading right now?
56:09
SPEAKER_10: I'm just skimming through.
56:11
SPEAKER_03: So okay, here July 2023, the school came under the scrutiny of Ohio Department of Education for its deficient performance in states, math, and English tests.
56:21
SPEAKER_03: None of the eighth grade students for the 2023-2024 school year tested proficient in math in the previous three years, and in the preceding year, only 8% of I promise students tested proficient in English.
56:37
SPEAKER_03: The achievement um component received an F grade, and the progress component, which measures growth in students based on past performance received in A grade.
56:49
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
56:53
SPEAKER_02: And I I was saying that in the in like uh a very kind of because I understand like it's a very tough thing to do.
56:59
SPEAKER_02: It's tough, yeah.
56:59
SPEAKER_02: Public educators.
57:01
SPEAKER_03: They pick underprivileged.
57:04
SPEAKER_03: So I don't know, like if Michael Jordan's opened up schools and hospitals and shit.
57:07
SPEAKER_03: I hope that he's hospitals, yeah.
57:09
SPEAKER_03: Hospitals clinics, free, free clinics.
57:10
SPEAKER_10: So help free.
57:12
SPEAKER_03: Let me just put it to you this way.
57:13
SPEAKER_03: If you open that that clinic and and hospital on on OBlock, it would be a it would be a little, you know, there'll be a high death rate, all that type of shit.
57:24
SPEAKER_02: First of all, these these brothers are doing some big things, so ultimately said about the bubble, the conditions.
57:31
SPEAKER_03: It doesn't count.
57:32
SPEAKER_03: It doesn't count.
57:33
SPEAKER_03: You have to put an asterisk next to it, right, Dayude?
57:36
SPEAKER_03: This does not count towards LeBron James's legacy because he opened up a school for underprivileged children.
57:43
SPEAKER_03: It was a very noble thing.
57:44
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yeah.
57:45
SPEAKER_10: Who knows?
57:46
SPEAKER_10: No, he's doing a good job, he's doing a good job.
57:48
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, MJ's a better basketball player, it's fine.
57:50
SPEAKER_10: He's also a better philanthropist.
57:52
SPEAKER_10: It's okay.
57:53
SPEAKER_10: It's fine.
57:54
SPEAKER_10: Everything's okay.
57:58
SPEAKER_10: He's better at philanthropy as well.
58:00
SPEAKER_02: So, you know, I bet I bet I bet I bet I bet they bumped into each other.
58:05
SPEAKER_02: MJ would say some shit like that.
58:07
SPEAKER_10: You know, you know what's funny?
58:08
SPEAKER_10: You know what's funny?
58:10
SPEAKER_10: Like, MJ's probably like, my, my, uh, my people at the clinic are getting a better medicine than your people are getting in education.
58:16
SPEAKER_10: And they're both coming from the same parts of society.
58:21
SPEAKER_10: So yeah.
58:24
SPEAKER_03: All right, let me see this cat.
58:25
SPEAKER_03: Let me see this cat.
58:26
SPEAKER_03: All right.
58:27
SPEAKER_03: You never seen this, brother.
58:28
SPEAKER_03: Huh?
58:28
SPEAKER_03: I'm glad your brain isn't isn't totally gone.
58:31
SPEAKER_03: He loves Jesus, though.
58:33
SPEAKER_03: I love Jesus too.
58:35
SPEAKER_03: We all do.
58:35
SPEAKER_00: From your understanding, obviously, you're you're their attorney representing them along with Ed.
58:39
SPEAKER_00: Are they being investigated as suspects in a crime?
58:43
SPEAKER_07: No.
58:43
SPEAKER_07: Um, just to put it as plainly as possible, they are not being investigated as suspects.
58:50
SPEAKER_07: In Jackson County, um, when anytime there's a what we call a unnatural death, the DA's office presents the information they have on that to the grand jury that's impaneled.
59:02
SPEAKER_07: And so this is one of those cases.
59:04
SPEAKER_07: This is not a criminal case um now.
59:07
SPEAKER_07: I I don't know if it will be later, but I can tell you it won't be uh when it comes to Warren, Jax, and Morgan.
59:15
SPEAKER_03: Tyler Are so he's running cover for these little white boys that murdered that kid.
59:20
SPEAKER_03: It's crazy.
59:21
SPEAKER_03: Like they he's had him on his show doing panels, and it's just it's like they're putting a black face on this bullshit that these because none of these kids have been investigated.
59:31
SPEAKER_03: The boat, they didn't even do like a they didn't put no dogs or whatever or any type of thing.
59:36
SPEAKER_03: Is it Crumb?
59:37
SPEAKER_10: Isn't Crump then they do an independent investigation and stuff?
59:39
SPEAKER_10: Isn't Crumped the Bible?
59:41
SPEAKER_03: They won't they won't do it.
59:42
SPEAKER_03: So he's running around saying this is interesting because they did a um what's his name?
59:46
SPEAKER_03: Did a whole I thought they did an autopsy.
59:48
SPEAKER_03: No, they didn't they they did, yeah, but they didn't give him they they they dissected.
59:55
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
59:56
SPEAKER_03: And then also with the um uh the forensic evidence from the boats and stuff like that, they're not letting them do the thing.
1:00:05
SPEAKER_03: And Crump said and Crump, this is all like the county, the state, whoever has to request these things, not the lawyer for the fucking um uh you know the deceased.
1:00:19
SPEAKER_03: Like, why are we asking for these things?
1:00:21
SPEAKER_03: Like, yeah, look at the boat.
1:00:22
SPEAKER_03: He was on that boat, right?
1:00:23
SPEAKER_03: They're not looking at the boat, they didn't they didn't put no dogs on it, they didn't do no thing.
1:00:29
SPEAKER_03: Nothing.
1:00:29
SPEAKER_03: So I'm like, so why and and then everybody's running cover for these kids.
1:00:33
SPEAKER_03: Wow, it's crazy.
1:00:34
SPEAKER_03: It's crazy.
1:00:35
SPEAKER_03: And this motherfucker, they hired him just to be the black face in front of it, and they're they're like they're they're making it seem like the family's not cooperating.
1:00:44
SPEAKER_03: That's what they're that's the twist they're putting on it, and people are falling for it because it's like the mother has been outspoken about not like she's just like, I want to know what happened to my son.
1:00:55
SPEAKER_03: And then they're like, Oh no, we're not gonna go look at the boat, we're not gonna even talk to these kids, and they're not even doing an investigation, it's so fucked up, and they got this nigga running cover for all of them.
1:01:05
SPEAKER_12: Have y'all been following the community and among what'd you say?
1:01:09
SPEAKER_10: Have y'all been following the Tupac murder uh case?
1:01:12
SPEAKER_10: Um probably get solved before this shit fucking over.
1:01:15
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yeah.
1:01:16
SPEAKER_02: I see bits of it mob ties.
1:01:19
SPEAKER_02: It was uh I saw him on trial.
1:01:24
SPEAKER_03: I haven't been paying attention.
1:01:26
SPEAKER_03: Is it any good?
1:01:27
SPEAKER_10: Yo, the testimony is so amazing because when they ask a question, they let somebody literally tell a story.
1:01:34
SPEAKER_10: They let somebody literally keep going.
1:01:35
SPEAKER_10: I've never seen this in a trial.
1:01:37
SPEAKER_10: Usually it's yes or no.
1:01:39
SPEAKER_10: And then they and then they let jury ask questions.
1:01:42
SPEAKER_10: Jury can ask questions.
1:01:45
SPEAKER_03: This is just now it's just a bunch of people telling stories.
1:01:48
SPEAKER_03: Like who has the grandiose tale?
1:01:50
SPEAKER_03: That nigga, um, what's his name?
1:01:51
SPEAKER_03: Schoolie D or whatever.
1:01:53
SPEAKER_03: Keefy D.
1:01:54
SPEAKER_03: Keefy D.
1:01:55
SPEAKER_03: He ain't going to no jail or anything.
1:01:57
SPEAKER_03: I don't think he is.
1:02:00
SPEAKER_10: This is one of the first times ever.
1:02:03
SPEAKER_10: And he's not gonna you know testify, but still as a quote unquote witness, that the star witness for the prosecution is also the defendant.
1:02:13
SPEAKER_10: Isn't that crazy?
1:02:15
SPEAKER_10: Because he wrote this book.
1:02:16
SPEAKER_10: So he do you know the whole story with like internally about how this all happened, right, with the proffer and everything?
1:02:24
SPEAKER_10: Oh so the DA did a proffer.
1:02:27
SPEAKER_10: Do you guys know what a proffer is?
1:02:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's like a pre-order, right?
1:02:32
SPEAKER_02: Like a deal before, right?
1:02:34
SPEAKER_10: Well, yeah, so a proffer is where uh a district attorney, federal aid, whatever agency can offer you that you can talk and whatever you say while you say the proffer is not held against you and you can't be charged for it.
1:02:48
SPEAKER_10: Right, okay.
1:02:49
SPEAKER_10: However, if you go past that and continue from that point, then you can be subject, you can have exposure.
1:02:57
SPEAKER_10: So so he he had a drug charge against him, but they brought him in, but they thought he was connected to the Biggie Small's murder.
1:03:05
SPEAKER_10: And so they were trying to get him to go undercover with that dude, Von Zip, that was connected with Puffy because they felt that Puffy had something.
1:03:13
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, they thought Puffy had something to do with Tupac's murder.
1:03:16
SPEAKER_10: So, long story short, you know, they tried to use Keefy D as an informant when and they they they pressured him in the you know, when they brought him in on the drug charge because they were basically targeting him and following him, thinking he was part of the biggie charge.
1:03:29
SPEAKER_10: So they offered him a proffer and they say, hey, whatever information you have, you can tell it, you know, no issues, right?
1:03:36
SPEAKER_10: Okay, that shit happened so long ago.
1:03:39
SPEAKER_10: They left it at that.
1:03:40
SPEAKER_10: They didn't get any information with von Zip.
1:03:42
SPEAKER_10: Von Zip was sick, cancer.
1:03:43
SPEAKER_10: He he was like, I'm out of business, blah blah.
1:03:46
SPEAKER_10: Fast forward, he writes a fucking book describing yeah, all the murder and all this kind of stuff.
1:03:53
SPEAKER_10: Then he goes on Vlad to promote Vlad, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:03:56
SPEAKER_10: He thinks he's good.
1:03:57
SPEAKER_10: He thinks he's good under the Prophet.
1:03:59
SPEAKER_10: But what he doesn't understand is the propher is is no pro se at the once you go past that point and you start then self-incriminating yourself.
1:04:10
SPEAKER_10: Sure, sure, sure.
1:04:11
SPEAKER_10: He became they they they he forced them to indict him.
1:04:14
SPEAKER_10: It's the weirdest thing ever.
1:04:16
SPEAKER_10: The weirdest thing ever.
1:04:18
SPEAKER_02: Like never I've never seen anything like this.
1:04:21
SPEAKER_02: Going on Vlad, yeah, he had mad Vlad interviews too.
1:04:24
SPEAKER_02: Oh, him and Mom ties, maybe, yeah.
1:04:26
SPEAKER_10: But it's like it's like when I've been watching the trial, and all the testimony is all the same thing.
1:04:32
SPEAKER_10: It's like they ask a question, then they sit back, and the dude's just telling stories, like, yo, their neighborhood.
1:04:38
SPEAKER_10: And the funny thing is, is that I'm not even watching it whether or not I'm trying to find out if Kv D is guilty.
1:04:44
SPEAKER_10: I'm watching it because all this background fucking detail about Suge's operations and the security and the street situation and the whole situation behind the scenes with Puffy and um and Biggie, they had issues behind the scenes that you know, like little scuffles like that I didn't really know about.
1:05:00
SPEAKER_10: Because they said before the Source Awards, Biggie and Pac was getting into it in the garage.
1:05:05
SPEAKER_10: That's what the uh head of security for uh Suge had testified to that they actually had a hold it back and one dude pulled a gun, one dude ran off.
1:05:14
SPEAKER_10: This is before before the Source Awards.
1:05:16
SPEAKER_03: That's a 95 or 94?
1:05:17
SPEAKER_03: 95, right?
1:05:18
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, because he said they tried to get in with like four, five or six cars.
1:05:21
SPEAKER_10: They had like, or like ten cars, they had like 30 people with them, Suge and them.
1:05:25
SPEAKER_10: They only let him get two cars in, and when because they were trying to keep it secure into the award show, they got in there and they saw Puffy and Keefe D was with them, and uh did you know, because he was he was messing with the Crips and they got into a whole situation.
1:05:39
SPEAKER_10: Some dude pulled the gun, the security for Shook pulled the gun who's licensed, and the dude other dude ran off.
1:05:45
SPEAKER_10: But that happened before that whole Source Award shit.
1:05:47
SPEAKER_10: I'm like, damn.
1:05:48
SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, it's it's yeah, that that mob yeah, it was it was it's been wild.
1:05:53
SPEAKER_02: It's been wild.
1:05:54
SPEAKER_02: It's uh like you said, that shit happened 30 years ago.
1:05:57
SPEAKER_10: Oh it's like it's crazy.
1:06:00
SPEAKER_02: So I mean I guess they deserve justice though.
1:06:03
SPEAKER_02: He deserves justice, right?
1:06:04
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I know he does, but this is it just at this point now it feels so convoluted and so I feel like if they had that information back then and they didn't investigate it, they were really they didn't really care because they were just trying to get well, man.
1:06:18
SPEAKER_03: LA because LA PD didn't care.
1:06:21
SPEAKER_10: Keepy D's the only one still alive out of the entire car.
1:06:24
SPEAKER_10: They're all dead.
1:06:25
SPEAKER_10: Everybody who was in the car, Lando Anderson, there was three other people in the car, they're all dead.
1:06:29
SPEAKER_10: Except for Kiffy D.
1:06:30
SPEAKER_10: And and and one of only one of them was alive when the um the feds picked this up in 2006, I believe he said 2006 or 7.
1:06:40
SPEAKER_10: Only one outside of Kiffy D was alive from that car, and they didn't even go talk to him.
1:06:45
SPEAKER_10: The guy to the the the investigator testified today, they just didn't get it, they just didn't have a get a chance to.
1:06:51
SPEAKER_10: So when Kiffy D explained this whole story, they didn't even talk to the guy in the other in the car that was with him to cover the corroborate story.
1:07:00
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:07:01
SPEAKER_10: Crazy.
1:07:02
SPEAKER_10: They were just trying to trace the money.
1:07:04
SPEAKER_10: They said they didn't do that because they wanted to trace the money to show to Diddy.
1:07:08
SPEAKER_10: They should.
1:07:08
SPEAKER_10: And they went and they wanted to trace the money to Diddy paying this gang member and then go all the way from the top down.
1:07:14
SPEAKER_10: That's why they didn't talk to the lower person.
1:07:17
SPEAKER_10: They wanted to go to the get to the top and see who you know if Diddy really paid for this.
1:07:22
SPEAKER_10: This shit is crazy, man.
1:07:24
SPEAKER_10: I'm like, this whole that whole era was so like goddamn it.
1:07:28
SPEAKER_02: Oh they still like it's to what actually happened 30 years ago and still be oh in the forefront is insane.
1:07:35
SPEAKER_02: That's an that's an incredible run.
1:07:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's uh I mean most shit be lasting for like two weeks, a year.
1:07:44
SPEAKER_02: This shit was 30 years ago.
1:07:46
SPEAKER_10: Like it's like the OJ trial.
1:07:48
SPEAKER_10: OJ trial has a new special every five years.
1:07:53
SPEAKER_10: These are new evidence.
1:07:54
SPEAKER_10: This is new new pictures, new angles.
1:07:56
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, no, he ain't going to jail.
1:08:00
SPEAKER_03: Well, he did.
1:08:01
SPEAKER_03: I wonder if he left a confession somewhere and it's just gonna come out one day.
1:08:05
SPEAKER_10: They said they talked to him at his deathbed.
1:08:06
SPEAKER_10: He still said he, you know, he didn't.
1:08:08
SPEAKER_10: Well, that's what they claimed.
1:08:09
SPEAKER_10: They said they asked him at that point.
1:08:16
SPEAKER_03: I don't know, dude.
1:08:17
SPEAKER_03: I think he was.
1:08:18
SPEAKER_03: I don't think he did it by himself.
1:08:19
SPEAKER_03: If he did, he didn't know by himself.
1:08:21
SPEAKER_03: He knows who did.
1:08:22
SPEAKER_03: How about that?
1:08:23
SPEAKER_03: He knows something.
1:08:24
SPEAKER_03: They said his son might have done it.
1:08:27
SPEAKER_10: He wasn't by himself.
1:08:27
SPEAKER_10: If he did it, he wasn't by himself.
1:08:29
SPEAKER_10: There's no way he killed her, and and look, uh the Nicole was spiced.
1:08:34
SPEAKER_10: It wasn't gonna be no like you just grabbing her up, and then dude is right.
1:08:37
SPEAKER_10: Like, it would have been two of them.
1:08:39
SPEAKER_10: That's what I'm saying.
1:08:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and he wouldn't have been able to get them, even though he's a former football player, and I don't think he would have been able to slice into the he had really he had really bad arthritic knees after all those hits he took.
1:08:53
SPEAKER_02: So he couldn't have like physically done it, but I I don't know.
1:08:56
SPEAKER_10: I I yeah, it's it's crazy.
1:08:58
SPEAKER_10: That happened in the front, it happened in the front of their house.
1:09:00
SPEAKER_10: That's crazy.
1:09:01
SPEAKER_03: That's no witnesses or anything.
1:09:03
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no one heard nothing, no one, nobody was screaming.
1:09:06
SPEAKER_03: Are you wearing the Bruno Molly shoes that nobody has Bruno Molly with the with the with the Stacy Stacy Matt?
1:09:16
SPEAKER_10: With the Stacy Adams, Addams, Stacy Adams.
1:09:21
SPEAKER_02: Yo, that that that um document, well, the OJ documentary and the 30 for 30 are just incredible.
1:09:26
SPEAKER_02: Those are some of the best things I've ever seen, yo.
1:09:28
SPEAKER_03: The white bronze really good stuff.
1:09:30
SPEAKER_03: I remember them.
1:09:31
SPEAKER_03: Man, I was in like fifth or sixth grade back then.
1:09:33
SPEAKER_03: That's crazy.
1:09:34
SPEAKER_02: That's no, it yeah, no, it was I remember we watched the trial in 1930.
1:09:41
SPEAKER_03: I'm older than you.
1:09:42
SPEAKER_03: Yo, chill children still covered.
1:09:44
SPEAKER_03: Nah, you couldn't have been watching it in night.
1:09:46
SPEAKER_03: Do you have to watch it as part of a school thing?
1:09:47
SPEAKER_03: Or like this.
1:09:51
SPEAKER_10: It came on it came on during the um yeah, that's we was in high school.
1:09:56
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, we was in high school, yeah.
1:09:57
SPEAKER_10: No, you were 94 is high school.
1:09:59
SPEAKER_02: Yo, the trial when Yeah.
1:10:02
SPEAKER_02: Yo, no, no, 96, 96.
1:10:04
SPEAKER_02: We was in high school.
1:10:05
SPEAKER_02: The trial ended 95.
1:10:06
SPEAKER_02: Oh, 95, yeah.
1:10:07
SPEAKER_10: I'm sorry, 95, yeah, 95.
1:10:09
SPEAKER_02: The trial ended, and we was in Mrs.
1:10:11
SPEAKER_02: Vandever's French class.
1:10:13
SPEAKER_02: I speak French.
1:10:13
SPEAKER_10: Bonjour.
1:10:14
SPEAKER_10: It was a it was a basketball game going on.
1:10:16
SPEAKER_10: It was a finals game.
1:10:17
SPEAKER_10: They had to stop the no I'm talking about I'm talking about the trial.
1:10:20
SPEAKER_10: The actual trial, oh, yeah, yeah.
1:10:23
SPEAKER_02: And we was watching it, and I remember the teacher was like, Oh my god, I can't believe he got off.
1:10:28
SPEAKER_02: Like, it was so it was surreal.
1:10:30
SPEAKER_02: Like, people was running through the classes, we was running through the halls, like OJ got off.
1:10:35
SPEAKER_02: Like, it was crazy, right?
1:10:36
SPEAKER_10: But you know what?
1:10:37
SPEAKER_10: You know, you know who's not getting off?
1:10:41
SPEAKER_10: The Penn State, the Penn State.
1:10:43
SPEAKER_10: Oh, yeah.
1:10:45
SPEAKER_10: Shout out to my alma mater.
1:10:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we know any we know anybody that went to Penn State, yo?
1:10:50
SPEAKER_03: Me, yo.
1:10:52
SPEAKER_03: I am totally on board with this, yo.
1:10:54
SPEAKER_03: I love to see the Penn State as a Penn State.
1:10:56
SPEAKER_03: I love it.
1:10:57
SPEAKER_03: I love to see white people getting their come up ins.
1:11:02
SPEAKER_03: Finally, finally, the real drug dealers are being exposed.
1:11:06
SPEAKER_03: Like, this is what this is where it all starts.
1:11:10
SPEAKER_03: So I know Sean, I haven't even looked at any articles on this.
1:11:13
SPEAKER_03: I know you've been following what it was.
1:11:14
SPEAKER_03: His dad is a big attorney.
1:11:16
SPEAKER_02: His dad, the dad, yeah, the dad was yeah.
1:11:20
SPEAKER_10: Top of the echelon of the fraternity, like the Marvel, you know where you you know where they live, right?
1:11:24
SPEAKER_02: The dad and family.
1:11:25
SPEAKER_02: They lived in Westbury, Long Island.
1:11:28
SPEAKER_02: I'm from Long Island, too.
1:11:29
SPEAKER_10: That's that's uh that's you, that's you, spot.
1:11:31
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, man.
1:11:31
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:11:33
SPEAKER_10: That story that's for that money, that's that money, that's that sh money.
1:11:36
SPEAKER_02: Westbury, yeah.
1:11:37
SPEAKER_02: That's all right.
1:11:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's all right out there.
1:11:39
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna I'm I'm gonna need I'm gonna need some more details on this because this story is fucking crazy.
1:11:44
SPEAKER_02: You want to see this shit?
1:11:46
SPEAKER_02: 14 of them.
1:11:47
SPEAKER_03: See, guys, this this is who's selling the crack.
1:11:50
SPEAKER_03: Oh remember that turning him.
1:11:53
SPEAKER_03: Damn, these are the guys that sell the crack cocaine to the youth.
1:11:58
SPEAKER_02: Okay, the one on the right definitely did it.
1:12:01
SPEAKER_02: He definitely did it.
1:12:02
SPEAKER_02: The one with the red tie.
1:12:03
SPEAKER_10: Oh, oh, he high, he hiding that picture.
1:12:08
SPEAKER_03: Yo, these dudes was running coke through the campus.
1:12:13
SPEAKER_03: Damn, yeah, these two right now.
1:12:20
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
1:12:21
SPEAKER_02: Yo, that story came out like I'm gonna need details.
1:12:25
SPEAKER_02: They and in honesty.
1:12:29
SPEAKER_02: If some kappas had did this or some alphas had did this, oh my god.
1:12:33
SPEAKER_02: We they they they would have been like, oh my god.
1:12:36
SPEAKER_10: Well, what they needed yo, look at the main guy, he's not he's not out on bond.
1:12:40
SPEAKER_10: This guy is not out on bond.
1:12:41
SPEAKER_10: They didn't give him bond.
1:12:42
SPEAKER_10: The other guy is at a out on a one point.
1:12:43
SPEAKER_10: The other guy you showed, he's out on a one and a half million dollar bond.
1:12:47
SPEAKER_10: But um, but you know what's so funny.
1:12:50
SPEAKER_03: Mom on Son's killing after hazing on cocaine ring.
1:12:53
SPEAKER_10: I was telling Hugh this earlier.
1:12:56
SPEAKER_10: Penn State, great institution, but damn if they don't have the biggest scandals ever in the history.
1:13:03
SPEAKER_10: Bro, the biggest scandals in the history of any university in the history of universities.
1:13:09
SPEAKER_10: Like 100%.
1:13:10
SPEAKER_10: This is this is another this this is the face.
1:13:14
SPEAKER_03: This is the drug dealers right here, people.
1:13:16
SPEAKER_03: Right here.
1:13:16
SPEAKER_03: This is the guy who's selling cocaine to your children.
1:13:20
SPEAKER_03: L.
1:13:21
SPEAKER_03: Chapel Jr.
1:13:21
SPEAKER_03: right there.
1:13:22
SPEAKER_03: What's that haircut though?
1:13:22
SPEAKER_03: Hold on, go back.
1:13:23
SPEAKER_10: What's that haircut though?
1:13:24
SPEAKER_03: Look at these.
1:13:24
SPEAKER_03: They all they come in all different shapes and sizes.
1:13:28
SPEAKER_03: Look at them.
1:13:28
SPEAKER_10: Yo, that one in the bottom left.
1:13:30
SPEAKER_10: I'm telling you, he's hiding that picture.
1:13:31
SPEAKER_12: He definitely did, yeah, he definitely did.
1:13:33
SPEAKER_03: Put these fucking nerds, yo.
1:13:35
SPEAKER_03: Look at this.
1:13:35
SPEAKER_03: These are the guys selling the crack.
1:13:37
SPEAKER_03: Look at that shit, yo.
1:13:38
SPEAKER_03: They got your kids strung the fuck out of there.
1:13:40
SPEAKER_03: That's the where they wouldn't.
1:13:41
SPEAKER_03: Look at where they live.
1:13:42
SPEAKER_03: They're the trap house.
1:13:45
SPEAKER_03: Look at this shit, yo.
1:13:48
SPEAKER_03: Why do they cut up like nail cut his thumb?
1:13:53
SPEAKER_02: That's a stock picture, yo.
1:13:54
SPEAKER_02: Who would niggas a stock picture?
1:13:58
SPEAKER_03: That don't look real.
1:13:59
SPEAKER_03: That don't look natural.
1:14:00
SPEAKER_10: Yo, did they graduate these kids?
1:14:03
SPEAKER_10: Did they actually graduate?
1:14:04
SPEAKER_10: Or were they because I saw they said they they were in school the 2024, but did they actually graduate?
1:14:09
SPEAKER_03: They look like they're older, yeah.
1:14:10
SPEAKER_03: They're in their mid-20s almost.
1:14:12
SPEAKER_10: Like, I wonder what they were doing because this happened 20, they said 2022 to 2024, I think, or 20, yeah, 2021 to 2023, something like that.
1:14:23
SPEAKER_10: But I wonder what if they graduated, just went on to like regular stuff, or were they still?
1:14:28
SPEAKER_10: Nah, man.
1:14:29
SPEAKER_10: That money's too good.
1:14:30
SPEAKER_10: What are you talking about?
1:14:30
SPEAKER_10: Were they pulling up in their were they pulling up in their bins on campus, like, yo, I'm still here, like yo, this is my block.
1:14:36
SPEAKER_10: Yo, that money is too good.
1:14:37
SPEAKER_03: Was that what they were doing?
1:14:40
SPEAKER_03: Oh, PSU on the 24 Delta Signals and brother.
1:14:43
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they were selling too much, man.
1:14:45
SPEAKER_02: So okay, so wait, so all all of them were in a uh a frat, right?
1:14:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:14:50
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
1:14:51
SPEAKER_02: And that's yo, this story.
1:14:53
SPEAKER_02: Netflix is gonna have a day with this one.
1:14:55
SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's gonna be a phone on the phone.
1:14:56
SPEAKER_02: Oh, this is definitely good.
1:14:57
SPEAKER_10: Netflix, yeah.
1:14:58
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, this shout out to Netflix, shout out to Netflix.
1:15:01
SPEAKER_10: Shout out to Netflix.
1:15:02
SPEAKER_02: We need a sponsorship, yo.
1:15:03
SPEAKER_02: We like Netflix, we watch movies too.
1:15:06
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, we invested.
1:15:06
SPEAKER_10: We invested.
1:15:07
SPEAKER_03: Look at these kids, yo.
1:15:08
SPEAKER_03: This is the face of crack cocaine.
1:15:14
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, these are the purse.
1:15:16
SPEAKER_03: Cut your purse.
1:15:19
SPEAKER_03: I know what's so funny.
1:15:20
SPEAKER_03: Yo, dog, I know people who look like this.
1:15:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they all selling drugs, yo.
1:15:26
SPEAKER_03: I'm scared, yo.
1:15:27
SPEAKER_03: I gotta cross the street when I see one of these.
1:15:29
SPEAKER_03: Shit, all day.
1:15:30
SPEAKER_10: Can you imagine though?
1:15:31
SPEAKER_10: The you you know what the funny thing about this is, which is hilarious, is that these kids were selling cocaine on campus, and I can guarantee you the fear in which they had doing this was zero.
1:15:47
SPEAKER_10: Oh, yeah.
1:15:47
SPEAKER_10: They probably had no like you figure back in the day, back in the day, if you had a little dime bag and you had to drive to your friend's house and that shit was under your fucking floor mat, you be you be like, I hope I don't get pulled over.
1:15:59
SPEAKER_10: Because if I do, my whole shit gonna get pulled, you know.
1:16:02
SPEAKER_10: I'm gonna get pulled out the car.
1:16:04
SPEAKER_10: I'm gonna man, they're gonna find this little ass shit, and they're gonna fuck me up.
1:16:07
SPEAKER_10: These kids was kilos, and they was like, Yeah, call me at yeah, I'll text you.
1:16:12
SPEAKER_10: Like, they probably have to do that.
1:16:13
SPEAKER_03: We talked about that with the justice system, yo, like how they how it's like not equal.
1:16:18
SPEAKER_03: Kid a black kid get caught with a little dying bag of weed, his whole life is ruined.
1:16:22
SPEAKER_03: One of these kids could be smoking that shit in the student fucking center.
1:16:26
SPEAKER_03: They'll be like, yo, take that outside.
1:16:28
SPEAKER_03: If they have to discipline them, it'll be like, yo, just you know, slap on the wrist or fine or whatever.
1:16:33
SPEAKER_03: And they go do it again and again and again and again.
1:16:35
SPEAKER_03: So they have a fucking crack house on their fucking campus.
1:16:39
SPEAKER_10: The trap house look that shit looked like it looks, it looks like it's almost has a Dutch uh architecture to it.
1:16:49
SPEAKER_03: This is Neolithic architecture.
1:16:53
SPEAKER_03: So you're cooking that crack in a Dutch oven and shit.
1:16:59
SPEAKER_10: 18th century Dutch in a tutor style.
1:17:02
SPEAKER_10: I don't know.
1:17:04
SPEAKER_03: Look, like I said, man, it's these guys, these guys watch your back, these are the criminals.
1:17:08
SPEAKER_03: Remember.
1:17:09
SPEAKER_10: That's don't trust no, don't trust no tie with stripes down there like that.
1:17:13
SPEAKER_10: That's the face of criminology here.
1:17:15
SPEAKER_03: Look at this shit.
1:17:16
SPEAKER_03: Delta Ups.
1:17:18
SPEAKER_02: They tell you how they got caught in the side.
1:17:20
SPEAKER_03: Well, during a hazing, some hazing thing.
1:17:23
SPEAKER_03: They probably made some kids sleep a lot of coke.
1:17:25
SPEAKER_10: So he passed out or some shit.
1:17:27
SPEAKER_10: Well, they said, yeah, they said they would have as as the rush, you had to bag the coat.
1:17:33
SPEAKER_10: So it's yeah, that's they they had they had yeah, that's that's no no, they didn't bag it up.
1:17:40
SPEAKER_10: They said they as a part of your rush, yeah, as a part of your that was part of your rush, and you had to do that.
1:17:46
SPEAKER_10: So and it's funny, I was kind of cool.
1:17:48
SPEAKER_10: Uh I was telling Jenna, I was like, I was telling Jenna this initially room, but make it part of their yeah, but part of their thing.
1:17:57
SPEAKER_10: So, but I was telling Jenna, I said it's kind of funny because I'm like, I'm thinking to myself, these kids come from means mostly, right?
1:18:03
SPEAKER_10: So I'm like thinking to myself, why would you tell them they're actually bagging coke?
1:18:07
SPEAKER_10: I would be like, hey, when he bagged the Coke, right?
1:18:09
SPEAKER_10: Bag the Coke after you bag the Coke, I'd be like, we tested y'all.
1:18:12
SPEAKER_10: Y'all didn't say anything, right?
1:18:13
SPEAKER_10: That shit wasn't real, and just do another round of motherfuckers that come in because you know if they really thought they were bagging cocaine.
1:18:20
SPEAKER_10: I'd be like, Yeah, I'm not doing this shit.
1:18:22
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, they're gonna say something.
1:18:24
SPEAKER_10: So why would you let them do that thinking that?
1:18:27
SPEAKER_02: Like, they they either got too big for their britches or just they like you said, they had zero, they had zero fear, like it was like no no one's gonna stop us.
1:18:37
SPEAKER_02: We don't give a shit, bro.
1:18:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, crazy.
1:18:39
SPEAKER_02: That's a crazy that story.
1:18:41
SPEAKER_02: I don't know how long it's gonna last in the um, you know, the social media sphere, but yeah, that that is that's incredible.
1:18:47
SPEAKER_02: I saw that I was like, nah, they they bugging, they bugging.
1:18:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's insane.
1:18:53
SPEAKER_10: Uh, shout out to Penn State, man.
1:18:55
SPEAKER_10: Shout out to Penn State.
1:18:56
SPEAKER_02: Shout out to Penn State, yo.
1:18:57
SPEAKER_02: We got sponsorship, yo.
1:18:58
SPEAKER_02: We like football.
1:19:01
SPEAKER_10: Oh, Michigan's gonna bust it up.
1:19:02
SPEAKER_03: Penn State's a machine, though, man.
1:19:03
SPEAKER_03: You're you've been up to the campus, it's beautiful.
1:19:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
1:19:06
SPEAKER_10: Oh, man.
1:19:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's beautiful.
1:19:07
SPEAKER_02: Oh, it's it's it's uh I've never been, but I would love to go to a game if you can get some tickets to the game, yo.
1:19:11
SPEAKER_02: We go see that, yo.
1:19:13
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:19:14
SPEAKER_10: We should actually, that'd be a lot of fun.
1:19:15
SPEAKER_03: That'd be a lotable, it's only like two and a half hours, three hours.
1:19:18
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yeah.
1:19:19
SPEAKER_03: It's in it's in state college, right?
1:19:21
SPEAKER_02: State college, Pennsylvania, right?
1:19:22
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:19:23
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
1:19:25
SPEAKER_03: There's another story.
1:19:26
SPEAKER_03: Well, interesting.
1:19:27
SPEAKER_03: Uh LeVar Ball had another podcast, and this time he had like NBA dads on there.
1:19:31
SPEAKER_03: I didn't watch it, I just saw this clip.
1:19:32
SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna play.
1:19:33
SPEAKER_03: Did you guys watch this clip?
1:19:34
SPEAKER_03: Oh, I I didn't know the clip.
1:19:35
SPEAKER_03: They were I do that's very interesting.
1:19:37
SPEAKER_10: It's it's a very interesting point that they were making about the NBA taking the role of dad.
1:19:41
SPEAKER_10: I thought that was very interesting.
1:19:43
SPEAKER_03: Wait, let me put this up.
1:19:44
SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna play the clip for context.
1:19:46
SPEAKER_03: But that's Jalen Brown's dad, right?
1:19:48
SPEAKER_06: I saw dads crying because of that situation.
1:19:51
SPEAKER_03: How do each one of you guys that's Dwayne Wade's dad, that guy.
1:19:54
SPEAKER_08: Uh Phil about the way they want to divide you guys from your son when you get to that success.
1:20:01
SPEAKER_08: Wow.
1:20:01
SPEAKER_08: I've seen it when it started with the draft.
1:20:03
SPEAKER_03: So that's that's um Jalen Brown.
1:20:08
SPEAKER_03: No, Jason Tatum's.
1:20:09
SPEAKER_03: Oh, Jason Tatum.
1:20:10
SPEAKER_03: Okay, okay.
1:20:11
SPEAKER_03: Just Justin Tatum.
1:20:12
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, his name's Justin.
1:20:13
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
1:20:14
SPEAKER_03: But I didn't even know, I thought his mom was a single mom.
1:20:17
SPEAKER_03: I didn't have a lot of.
1:20:25
SPEAKER_03: Is she white or light skin?
1:20:26
SPEAKER_03: She was older.
1:20:27
SPEAKER_03: Let me look at um Jason Tatum.
1:20:29
SPEAKER_02: You know his dad played with uh Larry Hughes.
1:20:31
SPEAKER_02: Remember Larry Hughes?
1:20:32
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
1:20:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:20:35
SPEAKER_02: So it's I don't.
1:20:36
SPEAKER_02: I you know, I've always credited, I thought I think LeVar Ball is the greatest sports dad ever.
1:20:43
SPEAKER_02: Oh, she's not black.
1:20:45
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I always thought he was a white yo, that's crazy.
1:20:48
SPEAKER_03: I had no look at this.
1:20:50
SPEAKER_03: I had no fucking clue.
1:20:51
SPEAKER_10: I thought she was a big fat white lady.
1:20:53
SPEAKER_03: I always thought she was a big fat white lady.
1:20:55
SPEAKER_10: Oh, yeah, I recognize her.
1:20:56
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I see.
1:20:57
SPEAKER_03: She got she got she got commercials with him, yo.
1:20:59
SPEAKER_03: That's J.
1:21:00
SPEAKER_03: Cole's mom as a big fat white lady.
1:21:02
unknown: J.
1:21:03
SPEAKER_03: Cole's.
1:21:06
SPEAKER_02: That's a nice mother, yo.
1:21:07
SPEAKER_02: Don't say that.
1:21:08
SPEAKER_02: That's a nice mother, yo.
1:21:10
unknown: Shut up, man.
1:21:11
SPEAKER_03: You crazy.
1:21:12
SPEAKER_03: J.
1:21:12
SPEAKER_03: Cole.
1:21:13
SPEAKER_03: Shut the fuck up.
1:21:14
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
1:21:15
SPEAKER_02: That's somebody.
1:21:17
SPEAKER_03: She lost some weight, though.
1:21:18
SPEAKER_10: Man, that's a female.
1:21:19
SPEAKER_10: She lost weight, though.
1:21:20
SPEAKER_10: She used to be bigger.
1:21:22
SPEAKER_10: Shout out's cube.
1:21:23
SPEAKER_10: Shout out.
1:21:23
SPEAKER_10: She lost weight.
1:21:26
SPEAKER_03: This is his mom.
1:21:27
SPEAKER_03: She used to be really big, but she lost weight.
1:21:29
SPEAKER_03: But go back to the thing, because we're running out of time.
1:21:32
SPEAKER_10: So yeah.
1:21:32
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yeah.
1:21:32
SPEAKER_03: Go, go, go, go back to the thing.
1:21:34
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, let's go back to this.
1:21:36
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, this is a good thing.
1:21:37
SPEAKER_10: So you guys think it's an agenda?
1:21:40
SPEAKER_09: Nothing was asked to me.
1:21:41
SPEAKER_09: We know what took for us to get our kids together.
1:21:42
SPEAKER_09: I never thought about that.
1:21:46
SPEAKER_09: It's messed up, but I know my son how much he cares and loves me, and he knows what we've been through.
1:21:50
SPEAKER_09: As long as that matters, I'm good.
1:21:52
SPEAKER_09: You way?
1:21:52
SPEAKER_06: I had a hard time when my son first went to the league with them trying to separate the players from the dads or the families.
1:21:59
SPEAKER_06: And what I tried to do is I tried to steal what I learned from my situation, is sit back and let them mature, and then you know everything will work out.
1:22:07
SPEAKER_08: If you look at any of these superstars, who it's been given from D-Rose not talking to his parents to Kobe not being able to talk to his parents.
1:22:15
SPEAKER_08: So you want to go through that.
1:22:16
SPEAKER_08: That's why I asked very definitely.
1:22:18
SPEAKER_08: It's nothing to just dodge.
1:22:20
SPEAKER_03: So I find that interesting.
1:22:22
SPEAKER_03: Like, I think it's interesting, but also like when are white parents in the NBA or any support at the forefront?
1:22:28
SPEAKER_03: I mean, okay, wait.
1:22:30
SPEAKER_03: Like the um the Manning, the Manning family.
1:22:34
SPEAKER_03: Sure, sure, sure.
1:22:35
SPEAKER_03: I guess.
1:22:35
SPEAKER_03: But these are like Tom Brady's dad is.
1:22:39
SPEAKER_03: Like, do we know?
1:22:40
SPEAKER_03: Well, but I think there's a narrative.
1:22:42
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we don't know.
1:22:42
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no.
1:22:43
SPEAKER_10: Like, I think there's just a narrative that's given because I but with many the the the overshadow.
1:22:49
SPEAKER_10: Well, the mom, which is, you know, should not be not credited, but obviously, but I think there's a um there's a there's a glorification of a single parent household in that situation, right?
1:23:03
SPEAKER_10: I Alan Iverson's mom had a lot of press in the beginning.
1:23:06
SPEAKER_10: LeBron James's mom had a lot of pressure.
1:23:08
SPEAKER_10: KD's mom.
1:23:09
SPEAKER_10: KD's mom under that still.
1:23:11
SPEAKER_10: Under that setting, right?
1:23:12
SPEAKER_10: Under that single mom, under that setting.
1:23:15
SPEAKER_10: Whereas others, right, like a curry, yeah, you might see them in the stands, but there could have been more highlighting of them as a family.
1:23:22
SPEAKER_10: Mom's still bad, though.
1:23:23
SPEAKER_10: With that, but but that's the difference, you know.
1:23:26
SPEAKER_10: I think.
1:23:27
SPEAKER_10: Um, I think with Michael Jordan's parents, I think they had a very strong that was they kind of broke the mold.
1:23:35
SPEAKER_10: Like, yeah, yeah.
1:23:36
SPEAKER_10: Because um, because ultimately, but it was his mom when we, you know, that really making sure, yeah, making sure shit was going right, you know.
1:23:45
SPEAKER_10: Um, but it's it's an interesting, it is an interesting dynamic.
1:23:49
SPEAKER_10: I had never thought about that, but I think that it is it could be an agenda.
1:23:53
SPEAKER_10: I mean, the NBA, if you know, maybe if it's not direct, but you know, leaning into that is probably giving them more control over the situation for sure, because at the end of the day, mama wants her baby taken care of, right?
1:24:07
SPEAKER_10: And NBA can provide that, right?
1:24:10
SPEAKER_10: So, where a father is like, hmm, what's going on over here, right?
1:24:14
SPEAKER_10: It's a little bit more son, you more hands over, yeah.
1:24:18
SPEAKER_10: Why are you wearing that?
1:24:19
SPEAKER_10: What the fuck is like who is what you doing?
1:24:21
SPEAKER_10: You know what I'm saying?
1:24:22
SPEAKER_10: Like, it's it's more of a checking of like the things.
1:24:24
SPEAKER_03: So I know I know a couple well, yeah.
1:24:28
SPEAKER_03: I have NBA players in my fans.
1:24:29
SPEAKER_03: Sometimes, and I'll tell you guys offline my my story is what I heard about it.
1:24:33
SPEAKER_03: But sometimes, you know, both parents don't be doing the right things, so it's dependent on what it is, yeah.
1:24:39
SPEAKER_03: But also the NBA, any sports league, absolutely, especially NFL.
1:24:43
SPEAKER_03: NFL does they NFL, you don't have no parents.
1:24:45
SPEAKER_03: You were raised by the coach, you were you came off right off the street.
1:24:49
SPEAKER_03: You were you they found you in the gutter as a as a fetus and and raised you on a football field.
1:24:53
SPEAKER_03: They don't give a fuck where you came from, just as long as your shit is fucked up, they want you in the league.
1:24:58
SPEAKER_03: So, you know, NBA is a little bit better because some now NBA like it is a a money sport, meaning you gotta have some bread to actually participate because A U, you have to go through the private trainers, trainers, yeah, all of that.
1:25:13
SPEAKER_03: So you can't just be playing on a fucking hoop in the because LeBron set that mold that standard.
1:25:19
SPEAKER_03: Like, you can't just be playing in the street now.
1:25:21
SPEAKER_03: Like, he he he he he went to a Catholic private school to play hoops, got good code.
1:25:27
SPEAKER_03: Luckily, they provided these services for free, but not everybody in the hood's gonna have that same opportunity.
1:25:33
SPEAKER_03: So it's twice as hard to be a Derek Rose nowadays and come straight out the hood.
1:25:38
SPEAKER_02: Oh, it's it's it's impossible.
1:25:40
SPEAKER_02: It's it's actually impossible.
1:25:41
SPEAKER_03: I don't think it's impossible, but it's you have to be really good.
1:25:44
SPEAKER_05: Well, somebody has to pick you up and take you out there.
1:25:46
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, pick you up, yeah.
1:25:47
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:25:48
SPEAKER_02: It's it's almost like you gotta be past good, you gotta be lucky at this point, right?
1:25:52
SPEAKER_02: Like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:25:54
SPEAKER_02: That's a big part of that for sure.
1:25:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, these guys nowadays, like you said, with the training.
1:26:00
SPEAKER_02: I mean, some of these guys be training three or four times a day in high school.
1:26:03
SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah, wake up at four o'clock, get shots up.
1:26:06
SPEAKER_10: School well, that's what a lot of the uh players, you know, talk about as far as you know the game being watered down, is that it's all about training and sets and this, it's not really about the funnel from basketball.
1:26:21
SPEAKER_10: It's not yeah, right.
1:26:22
SPEAKER_10: It's it's it's it's just about being able to do this move this way or set back this way, and be you know, getting like this hype a pocket where it's not a flow of a game type of action.
1:26:31
SPEAKER_10: And so some of a lot of the fundamentals have kind of gone away.
1:26:36
SPEAKER_10: Um, and and and what you would see as projects, and that's why like a Kobe and all these kind of people from yesteryear, where they were projects, they were still still still very skilled and in a way that was fundamentally sound, right?
1:26:50
SPEAKER_10: Like Kobe in high school could use the backboard intelligently, right?
1:26:55
SPEAKER_10: Like and shit like that.
1:26:56
SPEAKER_10: Footwork, macadamic, yeah, footwork, yeah, yeah.
1:26:59
SPEAKER_10: Um, where now it's just like three-point shot and you know, dunk on somebody, type, you know.
1:27:04
SPEAKER_10: Um, so there's no in between there's no in-between game now.
1:27:08
SPEAKER_10: No, no.
1:27:09
SPEAKER_10: I mean, Ted Duncan would not survive, like as far as a come no, I'm saying as far as his game style, as far as being a prospect.
1:27:17
SPEAKER_10: He would have to shoot things now.
1:27:19
SPEAKER_10: He would have to shoot.
1:27:19
SPEAKER_10: When he was at Wake Forest, when he was at Wake Forest, he wouldn't have been a top pick coming out of Wake Forest with that game, you know.
1:27:26
SPEAKER_10: So they would have called it too slow.
1:27:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, big man needs a perimeter, he needs to be at least they shoot 30% from the three, which is crazy.
1:27:36
SPEAKER_02: 100% like Carl, like Carl Anthony Towns.
1:27:38
SPEAKER_02: Like he's about to get paid again.
1:27:39
SPEAKER_03: He about to get another 300 million.
1:27:42
SPEAKER_03: You're gonna get more, you got half a half a somebody will pay him.
1:27:45
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he can go right back, he can go back to the next, right?
1:27:48
SPEAKER_03: You think they're gonna hit that luxury tax?
1:27:51
SPEAKER_02: They gotta pay Jalen now.
1:27:53
SPEAKER_02: I'm about to say they gotta pay him now, they gotta pay Carl.
1:27:55
SPEAKER_02: I'm not sure the way the NBA like their fiscal cap is.
1:28:00
SPEAKER_02: Now, these teams don't want to pay that luxury tax, yo.
1:28:03
SPEAKER_02: Like, they are they are slashing salaries.
1:28:05
SPEAKER_02: So, like this whole Philly thing, this Philly thing got like one year because you you just can't I can't pay all these guys.
1:28:13
SPEAKER_02: I just can't oh yeah.
1:28:14
SPEAKER_10: Well, Embiid ain't gonna get a big company.
1:28:16
SPEAKER_10: Somebody's got well, Embiid's the first one on the chopping block, honestly.
1:28:19
SPEAKER_03: If he's I wouldn't let him go, but I wouldn't I'd lowball him or not, you know.
1:28:24
SPEAKER_03: Uh yeah, yeah.
1:28:25
SPEAKER_02: He shit.
1:28:27
SPEAKER_02: He they've been trying to give I can't give him no guarantees.
1:28:30
SPEAKER_03: They should do some math and be like, how many games did you play?
1:28:32
SPEAKER_03: That's how much they're gonna pay you.
1:28:36
SPEAKER_03: You play like what 20 average 20 games a year his whole career in that bitch?
1:28:40
SPEAKER_03: I know.
1:28:41
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, let's take the max contract, divide it up into how much you make per game, and that's what we're gonna pay you.
1:28:46
SPEAKER_03: That's the just the max contract per game.
1:28:50
SPEAKER_03: Whatever that may be,$10 million a game or whatever the fuck.
1:28:54
SPEAKER_03: That's crazy.
1:28:54
SPEAKER_03: Yo, you ever see how they break it down by the minute?
1:28:57
SPEAKER_03: Like they they broke down Stephanie's contract by the minute or$100,000 a minute.
1:29:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:29:04
SPEAKER_03: They're making like I think Steph Curry makes like$650,000 a game.
1:29:09
SPEAKER_03: Something like that each season.
1:29:11
SPEAKER_10: That's why it's uh a suspension for a few games is like a huge deal.
1:29:15
SPEAKER_03: That's a fucking yo.
1:29:17
SPEAKER_03: I've I'm I make good money, but I don't think I've ever taken that much home in one year.
1:29:22
SPEAKER_03: That's a whole year of work for you to go out there and shoot some fucking threes and sit on the bench when you fucking twist your ankle.
1:29:27
SPEAKER_03: That's what I'm saying.
1:29:28
SPEAKER_10: Well, you see what Tracy Tracy McGrady signed at uh Adidas deal.
1:29:31
SPEAKER_10: He said he signed a$12 million Adidas deal coming out of high school, and he said he went to the bank, took out$500,000 in cash and just put it on his uh dining room table and just looked at it.
1:29:41
SPEAKER_10: He's like, I just wanted to see what a half a million dollars looks like.
1:29:45
SPEAKER_10: Damn!
1:29:46
SPEAKER_03: He thinks too small, yo.
1:29:47
SPEAKER_03: That's why he didn't make it in the league.
1:29:48
SPEAKER_03: I would have taken out a million dollars.
1:29:49
SPEAKER_03: No, no, too.
1:29:51
SPEAKER_03: Wait, wait, wait.
1:29:52
SPEAKER_02: Wait, what do you mean he ain't make it?
1:29:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, what do you mean he ain't making the league?
1:29:54
SPEAKER_02: What are you talking about?
1:29:55
SPEAKER_02: What are you talking about?
1:29:56
SPEAKER_02: He's thinking too small, yo.
1:29:57
SPEAKER_02: You got that much money, you think.
1:29:59
SPEAKER_02: He was a Phoenix.
1:30:00
SPEAKER_02: He was 17.
1:30:02
SPEAKER_03: You took out two million, you do the money phone, you take a picture, a couple of pictures.
1:30:09
SPEAKER_10: You got him in the Moet bottle behind you at the club picture.
1:30:13
SPEAKER_10: Well, well, think about when this was.
1:30:15
SPEAKER_10: That might have been the max he could take out in cash back.
1:30:18
SPEAKER_10: I'm about to say that was 1995.
1:30:19
SPEAKER_10: 500,000.
1:30:20
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, 500,000.
1:30:21
SPEAKER_03: I would have made a couple trips, you know.
1:30:25
SPEAKER_03: I'd say a couple trips to the bank, yeah.
1:30:27
SPEAKER_02: You know why he wears number was his number what 601, right?
1:30:32
SPEAKER_02: Oh, no, remember his his his ABCD uh uh Adidas basketball was 601.
1:30:39
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yeah.
1:30:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, no, he wasn't.
1:30:41
SPEAKER_02: I don't even know what you're talking about.
1:30:42
SPEAKER_02: No, okay.
1:30:43
SPEAKER_02: When he went, you know, like they had like the AU camps and stuff, right?
1:30:46
SPEAKER_02: So Tracy McGrady's number was like 601.
1:30:49
SPEAKER_02: And he thought he was 601 because Lamar Odom was number one.
1:30:52
SPEAKER_02: Like Lamar Odom was like back then, was like like oh yeah, oh yeah.
1:30:56
SPEAKER_02: Lamar Odom was uh so he he thought he was 601 slots behind Lamar Odom.
1:31:01
SPEAKER_02: It's wild.
1:31:02
SPEAKER_02: Crazy shit.
1:31:03
SPEAKER_10: Lamar Odom was nice, though.
1:31:05
SPEAKER_02: Oh my god, yo.
1:31:06
SPEAKER_02: You want to talk about a what if?
1:31:08
SPEAKER_02: Oh my god, yeah, I mean 6'11 can handle like that.
1:31:12
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, if it him and Rasheed Wallace, they did they did not maximize their talent.
1:31:18
SPEAKER_10: You never maximize their talent.
1:31:20
SPEAKER_10: Who's don't say Kirk Cousins?
1:31:23
SPEAKER_10: Kirk Cousins maximized if you want to take whatever he had to give and whatever he had to get, that he maximized contractually his talent.
1:31:34
SPEAKER_10: Yes, he maximized his playing starting games.
1:31:37
SPEAKER_10: Someone of his ilk starting as many games as he started in the NFL.
1:31:43
SPEAKER_02: He is so average, he is so average, but he's but he's just so like block.
1:31:49
SPEAKER_02: He's he's starting now, he's starting to start for the Raiders now.
1:31:53
SPEAKER_10: Still, uh, if we look up starting games, honestly, he has to be he's he's been in league for at least 15, 20 years.
1:32:00
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I was gonna say, right?
1:32:02
SPEAKER_10: Over 10.
1:32:03
SPEAKER_10: So he has to be up there and starts, all-time uh starting Q all-time starts for QB.
1:32:08
SPEAKER_10: Because see, someone like him still playing, he's going for stuff stuff like that, right?
1:32:14
SPEAKER_10: Be like top five all-time starts.
1:32:16
SPEAKER_10: That that adds to his, you know, because shit like that adds to his thing.
1:32:20
SPEAKER_10: That that wouldn't do much for you know, some other uh uh what's his name?
1:32:24
SPEAKER_02: Mahomes or somebody.
1:32:25
SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't know.
1:32:26
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:32:28
SPEAKER_10: Let me see.
1:32:32
SPEAKER_02: Yo, his salaries?
1:32:34
SPEAKER_02: Oh, he yeah, he man, he he you know, he makes so much.
1:32:39
SPEAKER_02: Yo, he his agent needs his like firstborn, you know.
1:32:44
SPEAKER_10: I'm gonna name my oh, yeah.
1:32:46
SPEAKER_10: I hope he has the same agent he had the whole time because he's the biggest agent is Kurt Cousins, you know.
1:32:57
SPEAKER_03: My cousin, my cousin Tobias got this as far as NBA, Tobias Harris.
1:33:02
SPEAKER_03: Oh, you've been agent Tobias Harris?
1:33:04
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, my cousin.
1:33:06
SPEAKER_03: He's terrible.
1:33:07
SPEAKER_02: Not fucking with you, no trouble.
1:33:08
SPEAKER_02: I mean, look, for a guy who's just a bruh.
1:33:12
SPEAKER_02: He's gonna make like a billion dollars.
1:33:13
SPEAKER_02: He has no pressure.
1:33:17
SPEAKER_02: No, he almost had a half a Billy, I think.
1:33:19
SPEAKER_02: He's at a half a billion.
1:33:20
SPEAKER_02: There's absolutely no pressure.
1:33:22
SPEAKER_02: He's never played good in the playoffs, but he's all he's on the Spurs this year.
1:33:25
SPEAKER_02: He's gonna get a championship this year.
1:33:28
SPEAKER_03: He signed a two-year deal with San Antonio for 30 like 51 million, 30 million.
1:33:34
SPEAKER_03: That's crazy.
1:33:35
SPEAKER_03: That's not he's veteran.
1:33:37
SPEAKER_03: He should be veteran minimum right now.
1:33:39
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he should be a good thing.
1:33:40
SPEAKER_03: He makes more money than Bronx.
1:33:42
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, hell yeah.
1:33:43
SPEAKER_03: Damn.
1:33:45
SPEAKER_03: He makes a lot more money.
1:33:47
SPEAKER_03: $300 million in his whole career.
1:33:49
SPEAKER_03: And he had that that$200 million contract with Philly.
1:33:53
SPEAKER_02: Philly, then Detroit signed to a victor.
1:33:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:33:57
SPEAKER_02: He has honestly people like Tobias Harris has like the greatest life because he has no pressure on him.
1:34:02
SPEAKER_02: I get to just chill.
1:34:04
SPEAKER_02: I could walk through the mall.
1:34:05
SPEAKER_02: No one gives a shit about me.
1:34:06
SPEAKER_02: And I got the same amount of money as the superstars got.
1:34:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:34:10
SPEAKER_03: He got lucky in that era.
1:34:12
SPEAKER_03: So his first, yo, his first contract was 1 million.
1:34:16
SPEAKER_03: This is he was in the on the bucks.
1:34:17
SPEAKER_03: He's been around the league.
1:34:19
SPEAKER_03: He's been around, yeah.
1:34:20
SPEAKER_02: I never I never really followed him until he went to Orlando.
1:34:23
SPEAKER_02: He's one of those guys that has a name, but you don't like ever say, yo, we got a guard Tobias Harris tonight, yo.
1:34:32
SPEAKER_10: Let him get his let him get his 17.
1:34:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like yo, he's all right, cool, yo.
1:34:37
SPEAKER_02: Tobias Harris, yo, he's not gonna beat us.
1:34:41
SPEAKER_02: He's not gonna beat us tonight, yo.
1:34:43
SPEAKER_02: Tobias Harris.
1:34:44
SPEAKER_02: His dad's his agent, I think.
1:34:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he is.
1:34:48
SPEAKER_03: And he's um Kelly Ubre's agent.
1:34:51
SPEAKER_03: Got Kelly Ubre.
1:34:52
SPEAKER_03: What'd she get him?
1:34:53
SPEAKER_03: Like 80 mil?
1:34:54
SPEAKER_03: How do you get that guy 80 mil?
1:34:56
SPEAKER_10: Oh, 167, 167 starts for Kirk Cousins.
1:35:00
SPEAKER_02: For Kirk Cousins?
1:35:02
SPEAKER_02: When did you come to the league?
1:35:03
SPEAKER_02: 2012?
1:35:04
SPEAKER_02: 11?
1:35:07
SPEAKER_10: Uh I think so, yeah.
1:35:10
SPEAKER_10: And look it up with he was he got drafted with RG3 because that was a good thing.
1:35:14
SPEAKER_10: RG3 was there.
1:35:15
SPEAKER_10: That must have been, yeah, that was probably 2000.
1:35:17
SPEAKER_02: As a Redskins fan, we was like, who the hell is Kirk Cousins?
1:35:20
SPEAKER_10: Oh, so he's 23rd all 23rd all time for uh shit for assistance.
1:35:26
SPEAKER_10: He's uh behind a lot here's a fun stat.
1:35:29
SPEAKER_03: Tobias Harris has made more money than Klay Thompson in his career.
1:35:34
SPEAKER_03: Wow, huh?
1:35:34
SPEAKER_03: I just I just looked up Klay's he only by two million, but that's crazy.
1:35:40
SPEAKER_02: And imagine Klay had to actually play and be good.
1:35:46
SPEAKER_02: 2012.
1:35:47
SPEAKER_02: Tobias was good.
1:35:48
SPEAKER_03: He's good, man.
1:35:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, he's fourth round, fourth, 15 and five.
1:35:53
SPEAKER_03: Come on.
1:35:54
SPEAKER_02: I like Tobias Harry, Joe.
1:35:56
SPEAKER_02: He keeps getting contracts, but it's like, god damn, why we paid him this much, yo.
1:36:00
SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah, we can't find someone in the G League to do this.
1:36:05
SPEAKER_02: Man, Tobias, yo.
1:36:06
SPEAKER_02: Oh, horrible.
1:36:07
SPEAKER_02: No, but shout out to Tobias, though.
1:36:09
SPEAKER_02: We respect yo, we need sponsorship, Tobias.
1:36:12
SPEAKER_03: Yo, okay, this is the heist right here.
1:36:15
SPEAKER_03: Joel Embiid has made 321 million dollars in his career.
1:36:20
SPEAKER_02: But but he's great though, Hugh.
1:36:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like there's there's a difference.
1:36:23
SPEAKER_02: Like, he's hurt all the time, but he's great.
1:36:28
SPEAKER_03: He's a great player.
1:36:29
SPEAKER_03: Look at you see this okay.
1:36:31
SPEAKER_03: Let me let me magnify it for the kids.
1:36:33
SPEAKER_03: Now he don't he don't play.
1:36:34
SPEAKER_03: I mean, he'll yeah, he don't play when we need him.
1:36:37
SPEAKER_03: Okay, he was a number one draft pick, right?
1:36:38
SPEAKER_03: Was he a number one?
1:36:39
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, number one pick.
1:36:40
SPEAKER_03: Yep, yep.
1:36:40
SPEAKER_03: So yeah, he did get that.
1:36:41
SPEAKER_03: This is back when now they make you know how the number one draft picks make a year now.
1:36:45
SPEAKER_03: About 15, 80, right?
1:36:47
SPEAKER_03: Crazy, crazy.
1:36:48
SPEAKER_03: They might as well play.
1:36:50
SPEAKER_02: But honestly, though, that's just still a deal.
1:36:52
SPEAKER_02: Think about yeah, pick the win base 15 million.
1:36:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
1:36:56
SPEAKER_03: See that?
1:36:56
SPEAKER_03: So we have is this how many games he played every year?
1:36:59
SPEAKER_03: Look, this is how old he was.
1:37:01
SPEAKER_03: No, no, no, that's how old, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:37:03
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, his age.
1:37:04
SPEAKER_03: Could you imagine 25 making 25 million?
1:37:07
SPEAKER_03: Dog, this ain't far off from how many games he played though in 2025.
1:37:11
SPEAKER_03: He's 31 years old.
1:37:12
SPEAKER_03: 25 making 25 million.
1:37:15
SPEAKER_03: Dog.
1:37:16
SPEAKER_03: 25 making 25 million.
1:37:18
SPEAKER_03: Oh, and don't they get a kicker for winning like MVP and all that shit?
1:37:21
SPEAKER_03: He probably got some, yeah.
1:37:23
SPEAKER_03: They get like another three, four mil for that.
1:37:25
SPEAKER_03: Oh, you know?
1:37:27
unknown: Oh, no, no, no.
1:37:29
SPEAKER_03: This is wild.
1:37:30
SPEAKER_10: 25 making 25 million?
1:37:32
SPEAKER_10: That's crazy.
1:37:33
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I mean, small, man.
1:37:36
SPEAKER_10: Athletes, man.
1:37:37
SPEAKER_03: Shit.
1:37:37
SPEAKER_03: I gotta go out there, so I gotta start shooting some hoops.
1:37:39
SPEAKER_10: Well, that's that's why that's why somebody like Stephen A.
1:37:42
SPEAKER_10: Smith can talk shit about him.
1:37:43
SPEAKER_10: No, no, you can't.
1:37:45
SPEAKER_10: Fuck you.
1:37:45
SPEAKER_10: Fuck you.
1:37:46
SPEAKER_10: You're making 30 million a yeah.
1:37:47
SPEAKER_10: So you can't even justify being a hater.
1:37:49
SPEAKER_10: No, no, listen, you can critique a motherfucker making 30 million dollars a year.
1:37:53
SPEAKER_10: Shit, come on, dude.
1:37:56
SPEAKER_10: I mean, it depends on what they do.
1:37:57
SPEAKER_10: I mean, come on.
1:37:58
SPEAKER_10: If I make okay, if I ever make 30 million dollars a year, somebody could talk some shit about me.
1:38:04
SPEAKER_10: Have at it.
1:38:05
SPEAKER_10: What am I doing wrong?
1:38:06
SPEAKER_10: Critique me.
1:38:07
SPEAKER_10: I need something in life to keep me fucking on edge.
1:38:11
SPEAKER_02: These guys are so sensitive.
1:38:12
SPEAKER_02: Like nowadays, the second you say anything about them, you're a hater.
1:38:17
SPEAKER_02: It's like, yo, why can't I just not like your game?
1:38:19
SPEAKER_02: Like, duel and be, yo, you're great, but bro, you don't play.
1:38:22
SPEAKER_10: Like when you make that type of money, there's no one around you at all.
1:38:27
SPEAKER_10: And I don't care who the fuck they are.
1:38:29
SPEAKER_10: Oh, my family tell me the real.
1:38:32
SPEAKER_10: They tell me the real.
1:38:33
SPEAKER_10: They tell me the real.
1:38:34
SPEAKER_10: Oh, yeah, okay.
1:38:36
SPEAKER_02: Fuck.
1:38:36
SPEAKER_02: You're paying for their lifestyle, bro.
1:38:38
SPEAKER_10: Like, like they told you the real before you had 30 million.
1:38:41
SPEAKER_10: I bet you that reel they told you, the conversation was a lot different before you had 30 million dollars.
1:38:47
SPEAKER_10: Look at this.
1:38:49
SPEAKER_10: No, no.
1:38:50
SPEAKER_03: Steph Curry making 62 this year.
1:38:53
SPEAKER_03: 62 mil.
1:38:55
SPEAKER_10: Get that, get that, Brad.
1:38:56
SPEAKER_10: Get that wait.
1:38:58
SPEAKER_02: Anthony Davis is still making 58.
1:38:59
SPEAKER_02: Like, he's uh damn.
1:39:01
SPEAKER_02: He sat out all the he don't even play.
1:39:04
SPEAKER_03: Like, he literally don't even play.
1:39:07
SPEAKER_03: Damn, the numbers, man.
1:39:08
SPEAKER_03: Can you imagine two years last three years?
1:39:11
SPEAKER_03: Joel and B is the highest paid player in the league.
1:39:13
SPEAKER_10: 20 years from now, 20 years from now, one year will be that the whole contract.
1:39:19
SPEAKER_10: The 20 years from now.
1:39:21
SPEAKER_10: 250 million.
1:39:22
SPEAKER_10: Look at it's already happening now.
1:39:24
SPEAKER_10: Soccer, Ronaldo, uh uh Cristiano, 275 million for one year.
1:39:29
SPEAKER_10: That's his contract.
1:39:30
SPEAKER_10: One year.
1:39:31
SPEAKER_02: So I think Luka, I think Luca's gonna be the first 100 million dollar player.
1:39:35
SPEAKER_10: I think maybe.
1:39:36
SPEAKER_10: What did what's yoke?
1:39:37
SPEAKER_10: Is Jokic already signed his new deal?
1:39:39
SPEAKER_02: Jokic is coming up, I want to say next year.
1:39:42
SPEAKER_02: After the season, yeah, yeah.
1:39:43
SPEAKER_03: Yo, Evan Mobley got a 269 million dollar contract.
1:39:47
SPEAKER_03: He's terrible.
1:39:49
SPEAKER_02: He doesn't even he average like 13 points, yo.
1:39:52
SPEAKER_02: I mean Michael Jordan must be just no, not even Michael Jordan, someone like uh I don't know, like a Chris Muller.
1:40:04
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, like a Charles Berkeley, they gotta be like, like, come on, yo.
1:40:06
SPEAKER_10: Oh, because Charles Barkley would have been getting that, yeah.
1:40:09
SPEAKER_03: LeBron, look at that.
1:40:11
SPEAKER_03: This is like two years ago, but that's crazy.
1:40:13
SPEAKER_03: LeBron went from top earner, one of the top earners in the league to veteran.
1:40:18
SPEAKER_03: He made like eight million this year, right?
1:40:20
SPEAKER_03: Or something crazy.
1:40:21
SPEAKER_03: Nah, four or something.
1:40:22
SPEAKER_10: Four or six or something.
1:40:23
SPEAKER_10: I don't know, whatever.
1:40:24
SPEAKER_10: Is it two year eight?
1:40:25
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
1:40:26
SPEAKER_10: What do you think gonna do with that money?
1:40:28
SPEAKER_10: Just put that put that shit on black on the roulette table, donate it.
1:40:31
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:40:33
SPEAKER_02: I should go to charity.
1:40:34
SPEAKER_03: Go back to school, get them better tutors, yeah.
1:40:37
SPEAKER_10: Get them some better tutors, yo.
1:40:40
SPEAKER_10: Could you imagine though that shit's your play money?
1:40:42
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, like four million.
1:40:44
SPEAKER_02: Yo, he's not even gonna live in Philadelphia.
1:40:46
SPEAKER_10: Like, oh no, he's gonna helicopter him like fucking Batman.
1:40:52
SPEAKER_10: He's gonna helicopter on top of the stairs.
1:40:56
SPEAKER_03: He's gonna drop down in the uh Dog, look what Shea's making in 3030 2030, 75.
1:41:06
SPEAKER_03: He just signed an extension, I guess, right?
1:41:08
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
1:41:09
SPEAKER_03: Shit.
1:41:10
SPEAKER_02: What's your take on Shay, Hugh?
1:41:12
SPEAKER_02: Are you a Shea fan?
1:41:13
SPEAKER_02: Like, no one talks about him.
1:41:14
SPEAKER_02: Like exactly.
1:41:16
SPEAKER_03: Like I go, yo, De'Aaron Fox is making 61.
1:41:19
SPEAKER_03: He cost them a championship.
1:41:21
SPEAKER_03: De'Aaron Fox making 61?
1:41:22
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
1:41:23
SPEAKER_03: Wow.
1:41:23
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
1:41:24
SPEAKER_03: Wow.
1:41:24
SPEAKER_03: 61?
1:41:26
SPEAKER_03: Dice Dice.
1:41:29
SPEAKER_03: Who's Ao?
1:41:30
SPEAKER_03: Who's Ayo?
1:41:31
SPEAKER_03: Who's AO?
1:41:32
SPEAKER_03: Who is this nigga?
1:41:33
SPEAKER_03: I never heard of this guy.
1:41:34
SPEAKER_03: He's a big girl.
1:41:37
SPEAKER_10: Good for them.
1:41:38
SPEAKER_10: Get that bread.
1:41:39
SPEAKER_10: Get that bread.
1:41:40
SPEAKER_10: Get that bread.
1:41:40
SPEAKER_10: I agree.
1:41:41
SPEAKER_10: I agree.
1:41:41
SPEAKER_10: I agree.
1:41:42
SPEAKER_03: You know, he's old as fuck, yo.
1:41:46
SPEAKER_03: Ao signed a five year 220.
1:41:49
SPEAKER_03: Why is he one of the top top earners?
1:41:54
unknown: Who?
1:41:54
SPEAKER_02: Where is he say that?
1:41:55
SPEAKER_03: This AO, he's the number five at the point guards.
1:41:59
SPEAKER_03: Oh, point guards.
1:42:00
SPEAKER_03: Point guards.
1:42:01
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
1:42:01
SPEAKER_03: I was about to say, I was like, top, damn, but that's a lot of money for somebody I never heard of.
1:42:06
SPEAKER_02: See, but think about this though.
1:42:07
SPEAKER_02: Like, damn, Trey Young making 212.
1:42:10
SPEAKER_02: I mean, he hasn't played in like three seasons.
1:42:13
SPEAKER_02: He's like, no, yo, he ain't playing three seasons, yo.
1:42:16
SPEAKER_02: Jalen Schuh.
1:42:17
SPEAKER_03: Yo, Austin Reeves.
1:42:18
SPEAKER_03: Shout out to Austin Reeves, yo.
1:42:20
SPEAKER_03: Shout out to Austin Reeves, yo.
1:42:21
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, he you know.
1:42:23
SPEAKER_03: I'm curious to see how he does this year.
1:42:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
1:42:25
SPEAKER_10: Shout out to Austin Reeves.
1:42:26
SPEAKER_03: God, I'm curious to see how he does this year.
1:42:29
SPEAKER_03: I mean, he did him and Luca without LeBron, it was crazy.
1:42:31
SPEAKER_03: Like they average, didn't they average like 30 35 apiece when he when they were both?
1:42:38
SPEAKER_03: They got somebody there.
1:42:39
SPEAKER_03: I don't even know these some white boys that can fucking block balls and shit.
1:42:43
SPEAKER_03: Pause.
1:42:44
SPEAKER_03: Damn, man.
1:42:44
SPEAKER_03: This is Desmond Bain.
1:42:46
SPEAKER_03: I hate Desmond Bain.
1:42:48
SPEAKER_03: I don't know why I hate him.
1:42:49
SPEAKER_03: He looks like a midget, but he's like 6'7 now.
1:42:52
SPEAKER_03: I know that works.
1:42:54
SPEAKER_02: Donovan Mitchell got paid too this year.
1:42:56
SPEAKER_02: He's making 60 million this year.
1:42:58
SPEAKER_10: Damn.
1:43:00
SPEAKER_10: Like I feel like I gotta go ahead.
1:43:03
SPEAKER_10: I gotta go.
1:43:03
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
1:43:04
SPEAKER_10: Alright, that's what I'm saying.
1:43:06
SPEAKER_10: I hate to be reminded how poor I am.
1:43:08
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I'm not trooping over motherfuckers making 60 million.
1:43:11
SPEAKER_10: God damn.
1:43:12
SPEAKER_10: I mean, I do okay with that.
1:43:14
SPEAKER_10: Average to 13 points a game.
1:43:16
SPEAKER_10: This motherfucker, these motherfuckers make you not want to sleep at night.
1:43:19
SPEAKER_10: Shit.
1:43:20
SPEAKER_03: I get a little$60,000 bonus check and I'm cheesing.
1:43:23
SPEAKER_03: These motherfuckers making that per minute.
1:43:26
SPEAKER_03: Get the fuck out of here.
1:43:27
SPEAKER_03: That's been the heads of state.
1:43:29
SPEAKER_12: Crazy.
1:43:29
SPEAKER_03: Episode eight.
1:43:30
SPEAKER_03: Oh, that rhymed.
1:43:31
SPEAKER_10: Or seven.
1:43:32
SPEAKER_10: Heads of state episode eight.
1:43:33
SPEAKER_10: Listen, he's heads of state episode eight.
1:43:35
SPEAKER_10: Good.
1:43:36
SPEAKER_10: Never, never one episode.
1:43:37
SPEAKER_10: No, drop some bars, yo.
1:43:38
SPEAKER_03: Drop some bars.
1:43:39
SPEAKER_03: I might freestyle one day.
1:43:40
SPEAKER_03: I'll bring out the stuff.
1:43:41
SPEAKER_03: I freestyle.
1:43:41
SPEAKER_10: I freestyled on the stage.
1:43:44
SPEAKER_10: We got a video of that.
1:43:45
SPEAKER_10: Shout out to Richmond.
1:43:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that was fun times.
1:43:48
SPEAKER_03: All right, bros.
1:43:49
SPEAKER_03: I'll see you all next week.
1:43:50
SPEAKER_03: Represent I thought, yo.
1:43:52
SPEAKER_04: Peace and love, y'all.
1:43:52
SPEAKER_03: All right.