Latest / Club 520 Podcast / Mike Bibby on mentoring Jeff Teague, losing to Kobe’s Lakers, playing with LeBron on Heat
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- 0:01Speaker 1: The volume.
- 0:06Speaker 2: All right, we back another episode of Club five twenty podcasts.
- 0:09Speaker 2: I'm the host, my name is DJ Wells. We got
- 0:11Speaker 2: a special special guest.
- 0:12Speaker 3: In the building.
- 0:13Speaker 2: Yo vet a legend. To my left, Man, we're gonna
- 0:16Speaker 2: introduce my man's last to my far left. We got
- 0:19Speaker 2: my dog. Bishop be hearing out the pre legs. How
- 0:21Speaker 2: you was nasty, cool and nasty. Let's get to a baby.
- 0:23Speaker 3: Let's see Bibby.
- 0:24Speaker 2: Normally he come to work and you know how to struggle,
- 0:27Speaker 2: and he come to work with the black forces of
- 0:28Speaker 2: the White Lacey. But he had to tell them we're
- 0:30Speaker 2: gonna let him work out in the prime time today.
- 0:31Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Man, shout out to prime Man.
- 0:34Speaker 3: He got the t and though both all day. He
- 0:41Speaker 3: started off to my right, my dog young not your
- 0:44Speaker 3: young tea.
- 0:45Speaker 1: Got you what Man, I'm chilling and I had to
- 0:46Speaker 1: put some Jordans on for team down Man. Yes, sir,
- 0:50Speaker 1: my God showed me so much loving Onlon. I'm so
- 0:52Speaker 1: high for this episode.
- 0:53Speaker 5: My o, G.
- 0:54Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you do the honest. DJ and Man
- 0:55Speaker 3: for show Man.
- 0:56Speaker 2: Listen Man, one of my favorite players of all time,
- 0:58Speaker 2: man before the Steph Curry he was the cod is
- 1:00Speaker 2: Light skinning point guard. Ever man got a long time
- 1:03Speaker 2: NBA fed sneaker fishing out. We got the man Mike
- 1:05Speaker 2: Bibby in the building. Appreciate you slide on this, big dogs.
- 1:07Speaker 5: Y'all, haven't man, I've been. I told Jeff, Jeff, you
- 1:09Speaker 5: got to get me on there man. Soon I called him.
- 1:12Speaker 5: I was wondering if you I'm surprised you have the
- 1:13Speaker 5: same fucking number.
- 1:14Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't switch up too much.
- 1:16Speaker 5: And I called him, I said, Jeff, I need to
- 1:17Speaker 5: get on there, man, So you know, I appreciate you
- 1:19Speaker 5: getting me on here.
- 1:20Speaker 4: Show man.
- 1:20Speaker 3: We excited.
- 1:21Speaker 1: I mean, I tell everybody that's the best teammate og
- 1:24Speaker 1: I had.
- 1:25Speaker 3: He showed me love, he showed me the roads.
- 1:28Speaker 5: Fucked up too, because real because I wasn't the guy.
- 1:34Speaker 5: I wasn't the bit that I wanted to be. Because
- 1:36Speaker 5: that's some ship in the upper management going on. When
- 1:39Speaker 5: they draft, I'm like, damn, they're trying to get me
- 1:41Speaker 5: out of here. They got a point guard. I didn't
- 1:42Speaker 5: really know much about you when you came, but when
- 1:44Speaker 5: you came, I knew a matter of time he was gonna,
- 1:46Speaker 5: you know, eventually take it over. But I mean, I
- 1:49Speaker 5: feel like I didn't give I gave you a little bit.
- 1:52Speaker 5: I didn't give you all that I think I should have,
- 1:53Speaker 5: just because the ship that was going on.
- 1:55Speaker 1: Man now, but you used to always tell me, like
- 1:57Speaker 1: my rookie year, you showed me love. I really have
- 2:00Speaker 1: to pay for nothing I have to I was out
- 2:01Speaker 1: whatever I had to do. You made sure I was okay.
- 2:05Speaker 1: But you always told me, like, your time gonna come.
- 2:07Speaker 1: You enjoyed mind used to be like, yo, your time
- 2:09Speaker 1: gonna come. Don't worry about the big because I wasn't playing.
- 2:11Speaker 1: You like, don't trip about it. Your time gonna come.
- 2:13Speaker 1: He was like you, like, you're gonna replace me. And
- 2:15Speaker 1: as a young dude, I couldn't understand that. I'm like
- 2:18Speaker 1: many he keeps saying that, bro, I want to play
- 2:20Speaker 1: right now. And then as I got older, I was like, dang,
- 2:22Speaker 1: I know what Bigby was talking about.
- 2:24Speaker 5: See, but what what do you always what? He started
- 2:26Speaker 5: me out of respect? You know what I mean? There
- 2:27Speaker 5: was times, you know, when I first got there, you
- 2:30Speaker 5: know it was time. But the second year, halfway through
- 2:33Speaker 5: the second year is like, okay, I'm trying to I'm
- 2:35Speaker 5: starting to wind down. But then even in the third year,
- 2:37Speaker 5: he had to start me just out of respect, you
- 2:39Speaker 5: know what I mean. And even when I went to
- 2:41Speaker 5: New York, he was like, I wanted to play me
- 2:44Speaker 5: and start me. I'm like, what he I'm done. I
- 2:47Speaker 5: was done like two years ago. I'm not trying to
- 2:50Speaker 5: play right now. So I mean, that's just the way
- 2:52Speaker 5: what he was, you know, just out of respect he
- 2:54Speaker 5: would starting me. And like I said, I knew your
- 2:56Speaker 5: time would come. Man. You took over that team and
- 2:59Speaker 5: led that team to the next playoffs when it was coming.
- 3:02Speaker 3: So I appreciate it. Man.
- 3:03Speaker 1: I did learn a lot though, Like I couldn't shoot, like,
- 3:06Speaker 1: but the pocket passing and stuff like, I learned that
- 3:09Speaker 1: all from him. He taught me how to play with
- 3:10Speaker 1: Al Horford for so like. But he's like, hey, this
- 3:13Speaker 1: is how you gotta get out open. You hit this
- 3:15Speaker 1: pocket past hour, you'll get an assist every time.
- 3:17Speaker 5: And I was like, yeah, I remember the one time
- 3:20Speaker 5: he was in practice and I you know, I mean
- 3:23Speaker 5: I I catched the ball from it. You know, they
- 3:24Speaker 5: make a standing this close to me. I said, Jeff,
- 3:28Speaker 5: what do you do? He's like, man, they told me
- 3:31Speaker 5: to pick you up full court. I said, for fucking
- 3:35Speaker 5: You're gonna try to work and practice. I'm trying to
- 3:38Speaker 5: say this ship for the game. Man, I'm just like,
- 3:39Speaker 5: come on, I just throw that ship to Joe. Joe smooth,
- 3:42Speaker 5: go ahead, y'all. I mean like, as soon as I
- 3:49Speaker 5: kind of about to turn around and walking up the court,
- 3:50Speaker 5: he's standing. They just told me to pick you up
- 3:55Speaker 5: full court. I got to pick you up. Come on.
- 4:01Speaker 3: Every practice too, man, practice for sure.
- 4:04Speaker 5: That might cut my years down. Problem, yeah, Man, Like,
- 4:08Speaker 5: come on, man, just pick me up at half Man,
- 4:11Speaker 5: I'm gonna come down and swing it, and I'm gonna
- 4:13Speaker 5: be the fifth option. You know what i mean. Come
- 4:15Speaker 5: to me. I'm gonna shoot it.
- 4:16Speaker 3: So man, we got we got to the origins.
- 4:19Speaker 5: Man.
- 4:19Speaker 2: Like I said, Man, your basketball career is crazy, especially
- 4:22Speaker 2: with today's climbing with the nil and stuff.
- 4:24Speaker 3: How good you were in high school?
- 4:26Speaker 1: Man?
- 4:27Speaker 3: You the cash there early.
- 4:28Speaker 5: I would have liked a little bit. Man. I didn't
- 4:30Speaker 5: need the five million that they're getting now, but I
- 4:32Speaker 5: would I could have took a couple of thousand, a
- 4:35Speaker 5: couple when you're coming from nothing, we couldn't even get
- 4:41Speaker 5: a slice of pizza. You were there when you couldn't
- 4:42Speaker 5: even get a slice of pizza for free. Fact. So man,
- 4:46Speaker 5: it's good, like the money they getting there, and it's good.
- 4:50Speaker 5: But when you get paid more than the coach, that's crazy. Nothing.
- 4:54Speaker 5: If I'm playing man and I'm making more than the coach,
- 4:58Speaker 5: coach won't be able to tell you anything.
- 5:00Speaker 3: Yeah, especially sixteen seventeen.
- 5:03Speaker 5: Yeah, come on, man, But it's about time to get them.
- 5:07Speaker 5: They deserve the money, man, deserve it.
- 5:09Speaker 1: But if you was to get paid you, how much
- 5:10Speaker 1: you think you would have got? Liked to go to
- 5:12Speaker 1: Arizona from out here?
- 5:15Speaker 5: I think it's been a lot. Everybody always talks about
- 5:18Speaker 5: how much money I got from going to Arizona.
- 5:20Speaker 4: I didn't.
- 5:20Speaker 5: I didn't get a dime go to Arizona. No, I
- 5:23Speaker 5: believe I know you got some money.
- 5:26Speaker 1: Not when I got there, I got some money. I
- 5:28Speaker 1: didn't get none to go there. But when I got there,
- 5:30Speaker 1: I definitely made my around.
- 5:32Speaker 3: Maybe about eight yeah, for sure to get But he
- 5:36Speaker 3: was the number one, number one point guards class. He
- 5:39Speaker 3: was a Gatorade Player of the Year ninety six.
- 5:41Speaker 5: Looking at these guys now, like you're getting some backups
- 5:44Speaker 5: and stuff now making a million two million, That was
- 5:46Speaker 5: the guy the football player from Texas, the backup.
- 5:51Speaker 3: You're talking about talking about taking like.
- 5:55Speaker 5: Three million dollars. Ain't play the game yet.
- 5:58Speaker 3: That's many.
- 5:59Speaker 5: Clearly everybody known Henry was like the most Henry. The
- 6:11Speaker 5: most money Henry ever made in the season was seventeen thousand.
- 6:14Speaker 3: Wrong, man, what thousand?
- 6:17Speaker 1: The NBA dem are Oh yeah, but they they owe
- 6:20Speaker 1: some of the old guys.
- 6:21Speaker 3: They definitely do.
- 6:22Speaker 4: You definitely do for Henry on and clear seventeen. It's crazy.
- 6:27Speaker 5: That's we're playing with Maurice Cheeks, doctor j Doug Collins, yeah,
- 6:32Speaker 5: se Darryl Dawkins. So you have a lot of guys
- 6:35Speaker 5: with him.
- 6:35Speaker 3: That's a squad. Yeah, but you can't hoop it and
- 6:38Speaker 3: have to have a part time job. That's that's.
- 6:42Speaker 4: That's crazy.
- 6:42Speaker 5: A lot of them was like that back then.
- 6:44Speaker 2: It was so like we said, man, we in Arizona
- 6:47Speaker 2: and what you did in the shorts man like legendary stuff,
- 6:51Speaker 2: and man, we got to you know, we talked about
- 6:53Speaker 2: shoes on here, man, and what you do for the
- 6:55Speaker 2: shoe game.
- 6:56Speaker 3: We just got to start there.
- 6:57Speaker 2: How was that to be at like that school where
- 6:59Speaker 2: they was like the insight for all the dope shit.
- 7:03Speaker 5: We really weren't. We were just you know what happened.
- 7:05Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you the story of how we got
- 7:06Speaker 5: the phones we got. So back then, everybody always like
- 7:11Speaker 5: if your uniform was written white, you wore the same
- 7:14Speaker 5: color as a uniform as white, you know what I mean.
- 7:16Speaker 5: So the Nike guy comes before the tournament and was like, hey,
- 7:21Speaker 5: I got a shoe for you guys. It's not out
- 7:25Speaker 5: yet and it's not your color. But soon as you
- 7:27Speaker 5: say it's not out yet, I said, I don't care
- 7:30Speaker 5: what color you need them I need. So they gave
- 7:33Speaker 5: one pair of everybody on the team. Some of the
- 7:34Speaker 5: guys warm, someone didn't. And I just think that me
- 7:38Speaker 5: wearing them and being on the court all the time
- 7:41Speaker 5: kind of set it off for me and winning the championship.
- 7:44Speaker 5: And you know, Penny was pissed that we wore the
- 7:46Speaker 5: shoes before him, so he didn't get a chance to
- 7:48Speaker 5: wear it, but so we got to wear him before him,
- 7:51Speaker 5: so I don't think he ever even wore those ones
- 7:53Speaker 5: that we had.
- 7:53Speaker 2: And it was crazy because he was just like, man,
- 7:55Speaker 2: it'd been one thing. You know, I'm saying how it
- 7:56Speaker 2: worked out. He was like, well, man, I seen my
- 7:57Speaker 2: signmon and my shoe before me.
- 8:00Speaker 5: He was he was. They told us too, But I
- 8:02Speaker 5: mean it made the shoe blow up, made the shoe iconic. Yeah,
- 8:06Speaker 5: so what else can you ask for with that happened?
- 8:10Speaker 1: I'm surprised, like you didn't go with like Nike full well,
- 8:14Speaker 1: I know you with Nike with Jordan's, but like how
- 8:17Speaker 1: you deal with those shoes and how the phones blew up,
- 8:19Speaker 1: I'm surprised.
- 8:20Speaker 3: I ain't see, like, man, let's do this.
- 8:22Speaker 5: But I mean, it wasn't like it isn't like it
- 8:24Speaker 5: was back then how it is now, you know, stuff
- 8:27Speaker 5: like that. But Jordans and pun was only two shoes
- 8:32Speaker 5: that came at me. Nike didn't really come at me.
- 8:34Speaker 5: So damn Pune was giving the most money out at
- 8:38Speaker 5: that time, and they, you know, we got Puma, so
- 8:42Speaker 5: it was like a million dollars or something it was
- 8:43Speaker 5: giving out. And so they sent me a box and
- 8:46Speaker 5: I opened the box. I was like, man, I can't.
- 8:51Speaker 5: The shoe was like this long and it was just
- 8:54Speaker 5: had the Puma thing on the side. It was like,
- 8:57Speaker 5: I mean, it was like the clock. I said, I can't.
- 9:02Speaker 5: I said, I told him. I called my agent, I said, Dave,
- 9:03Speaker 5: I can't wear this, and he was like, you want
- 9:06Speaker 5: to go with I could probably get you. Would you
- 9:08Speaker 5: wear Jordan's I said, fucking right. That's when he put
- 9:12Speaker 5: it on there, so it was a done deal. So
- 9:14Speaker 5: I was I was with Jordan for my whole fourteen
- 9:16Speaker 5: year career.
- 9:17Speaker 3: Damn, that's funny because you almost had a situation with Puoma.
- 9:20Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I did almost go with Poma. This was
- 9:22Speaker 3: some you know, they was a little.
- 9:23Speaker 4: Bit more updated.
- 9:27Speaker 5: Because nobody was in basketball. Yeah, that was basketball stuff
- 9:30Speaker 5: going on. They sent me soccer ship. It was like
- 9:32Speaker 5: all florescent colors in ninety Florescan wasn't really it back then.
- 9:39Speaker 3: Yeah, it was gonna be their first Freddy I do no.
- 9:45Speaker 1: But I got a crazy story about when I was
- 9:47Speaker 1: ten years old when y'all played in Indianapolis the Final four. Yeah,
- 9:52Speaker 1: I met you. We're at Yeah, you was coming getting
- 9:55Speaker 1: on the bus. We was outside. I told you all
- 9:57Speaker 1: was the badass kid. So he was out there and
- 10:00Speaker 1: we was like, yo, you can sign this, and you
- 10:02Speaker 1: signed a paper for me and I was like, yeah,
- 10:04Speaker 1: that's when you became like. I was like, I like
- 10:06Speaker 1: Mike Bibby because you signed the paper. Mike Bibby is cool, cool, cool.
- 10:10Speaker 1: I was ten years old.
- 10:13Speaker 5: You would have been younger than that. I was, what
- 10:18Speaker 5: because I was eighteen?
- 10:19Speaker 1: Okay, so I be like eight yeah something in Indianapolis.
- 10:23Speaker 5: Yeah, steak and shake after the game.
- 10:26Speaker 3: Yeah, right, that's when you sign my order. Girl. I'll
- 10:30Speaker 3: never forget that.
- 10:31Speaker 1: Then, when I fast forward, I remember telling my mom
- 10:33Speaker 1: because my mom remember too. And when I got drafted,
- 10:35Speaker 1: I was like, there was like Mike Bibby on the team.
- 10:38Speaker 3: I was like, damn.
- 10:47Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, Mike's starting guard. He's gonna be
- 10:49Speaker 1: coming back because you just had signed a new deal
- 10:51Speaker 1: with him. He's gonna be coming back. He's going to
- 10:53Speaker 1: teach you the ropes and stuff. And I was like, damn,
- 10:55Speaker 1: I got his autograph when they played in the final.
- 10:57Speaker 5: That's crazy.
- 10:58Speaker 4: They was like what year was that?
- 11:00Speaker 5: Seven?
- 11:01Speaker 6: Yeah?
- 11:01Speaker 3: He was like you should tell him that, And I
- 11:03Speaker 3: was like.
- 11:07Speaker 4: I had a cold college saying because that following year,
- 11:10Speaker 4: y'all went to the DIY, y'all go to the Elite eight.
- 11:13Speaker 5: We got our ass kicked by Utah.
- 11:15Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all lost by Utah, but you had a killer game.
- 11:17Speaker 4: I think you had like nah before that, I guess Maryland.
- 11:21Speaker 4: I think had like twenty six I believe out of Maryland.
- 11:24Speaker 5: And then yeah, they put a they put a triangle
- 11:27Speaker 5: in two on us in Utah, so like they said,
- 11:32Speaker 5: you know, I think he talked to so the coach
- 11:35Speaker 5: was Majerial's right, and he talked to an NBA coach,
- 11:40Speaker 5: I forget what you want, and he was he said,
- 11:43Speaker 5: try this defense, and he said, like if the other
- 11:46Speaker 5: guys would have hit some shots, that he would have
- 11:48Speaker 5: got out of it. But some of our other guys
- 11:51Speaker 5: everybody was called that game. He lost, but like I
- 11:52Speaker 5: think he almost loved, like twenty five Yeah yeah, Doleiac
- 11:58Speaker 5: yeah yeah, but they beat the sh out of us.
- 12:02Speaker 2: Miller was killing and he probably still somewhere killing somebody
- 12:06Speaker 2: in the open gym, open LF.
- 12:08Speaker 3: It's still probably handed out work.
- 12:11Speaker 4: Is that what you knew? Like, yeah, I'm done with
- 12:12Speaker 4: this ship.
- 12:13Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the game was over there that they
- 12:15Speaker 5: kept asking me the question. I already knew what I
- 12:17Speaker 5: was gonna do. I mean, there's nothing else from your dude.
- 12:19Speaker 2: You know.
- 12:20Speaker 5: They wanted me to leave my freshman year and then
- 12:23Speaker 5: I was like, I'm not ready, man too, I'm not
- 12:26Speaker 5: ready mentally physically, not and then after my sophomore I
- 12:30Speaker 5: was like, Ship, I'm ready, Now.
- 12:32Speaker 3: Would you play the year at the conference your freshman year?
- 12:34Speaker 5: No, sophomore sophomore year, yeah, sliphomore year after I was,
- 12:37Speaker 5: And that's why I knew it was time to go.
- 12:39Speaker 3: What you think you would have win if you left
- 12:40Speaker 3: your freshman year you think would have been.
- 12:42Speaker 5: I mean probably think I probably would have went the
- 12:43Speaker 5: first round. I don't know, like that Ship that was
- 12:47Speaker 5: a I.
- 12:47Speaker 3: And then yeah, I was just wondering, Yeah, drafted duck.
- 12:51Speaker 5: Yeah that's what I said.
- 12:52Speaker 3: It was a good right decision. That was yeah smart.
- 12:59Speaker 3: I just wonder if you thought you.
- 13:00Speaker 5: Go, Like, no, I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready. I
- 13:02Speaker 5: knew I wasn't ready. That's what I was, just like, fucking,
- 13:05Speaker 5: I'm gonna stay. I'm gonna stay, man, get another year
- 13:07Speaker 5: and go on killing and see what I gotta do
- 13:09Speaker 5: because I was My girl got pregnant that that summer,
- 13:14Speaker 5: so like shit, I got him making now you know
- 13:16Speaker 5: what I'm saying.
- 13:17Speaker 2: So damn that's real. And what's crazy is I mean
- 13:21Speaker 2: we're gonna jump back around, but your pe game. But
- 13:23Speaker 2: the George was so crazy. I had a homeboy.
- 13:26Speaker 3: Shout out to my homide Dre when you see is
- 13:27Speaker 3: he gonna laugh?
- 13:28Speaker 2: He had got a pair of pees from somebody that
- 13:30Speaker 2: he had had that I ended up getting them from him,
- 13:33Speaker 2: the nine lows, the white and purple. One of my
- 13:36Speaker 2: prize was just I've ever had from the shoe, what's
- 13:38Speaker 2: one of your favorite pees you had because you had
- 13:40Speaker 2: a lot of heat.
- 13:41Speaker 5: Either say the nines or the thirteen's, those are probably
- 13:46Speaker 5: the best ones. I mean, those are the most comfortable
- 13:47Speaker 5: ones to play in. Kill my feet, I mean, but
- 13:51Speaker 5: now they do but exactly different. Yeah, so if you're
- 13:55Speaker 5: playing them now, you're used to playing the comfortable shoes.
- 13:57Speaker 5: But I mean they were all low. So, like the
- 14:00Speaker 5: loads came about because at the beginning of the season,
- 14:04Speaker 5: they'll send you like a little booklet with all the
- 14:07Speaker 5: shoes they're gonna have you wear during the year, and
- 14:09Speaker 5: it was all, you know, the fives and nines and everything,
- 14:12Speaker 5: and I was just like, can mak them a low top?
- 14:15Speaker 5: And they were like, yeah, we're probably making them low top.
- 14:19Speaker 5: So that's when me and Derek Anderson started getting those
- 14:22Speaker 5: low tops and they started cutting everything in the fives,
- 14:25Speaker 5: the two's, the nines, thirteen's everything. So it kind of
- 14:30Speaker 5: just played out and it's just like, you know it,
- 14:31Speaker 5: just give us all the low tops.
- 14:33Speaker 3: That's fire. So y'all really basically started the low twos
- 14:36Speaker 3: and all that stuff.
- 14:38Speaker 5: You could probably say that, yeah, because I mean because
- 14:39Speaker 5: no one else in the in the brand was wearing loads,
- 14:42Speaker 5: said me.
- 14:42Speaker 4: And Dad said, yeah, talked about that. Yeah.
- 14:47Speaker 5: So man, it's just I mean, it was good. The
- 14:49Speaker 5: thing was good about it is that you get the
- 14:51Speaker 5: shoes like two months early and just wear might you
- 14:54Speaker 5: can not now, but I mean the players that get
- 14:57Speaker 5: that are playing now get them earlier. You know, they
- 14:59Speaker 5: kind of say you just a little bit to the end,
- 15:01Speaker 5: but you know they still take care of me. Get
- 15:04Speaker 5: a box every month, so it's good.
- 15:06Speaker 2: Shout out to j B. I mean, that's crazy. You know,
- 15:09Speaker 2: Jeff is a crazy snick here. So baby being your
- 15:11Speaker 2: team mat you know what I'm saying.
- 15:12Speaker 5: It was Adidas when you was.
- 15:13Speaker 1: When I first got there, I was Nike, and then
- 15:15Speaker 1: I went to Adidas. I remember when I was we
- 15:17Speaker 1: was playing, y'all, one time I had Adidas on.
- 15:19Speaker 3: He was like, man, what the fuck? But when I
- 15:23Speaker 3: first got there, I had Nikes, but I was.
- 15:26Speaker 1: I used to look at his and his claws and
- 15:29Speaker 1: his little cubby they had at the Mareen iced to
- 15:31Speaker 1: looking there and that used to go to the backward
- 15:32Speaker 1: back I get them.
- 15:33Speaker 3: He'd be like, he's gonna kill me. Man, I could
- 15:36Speaker 3: not touch those.
- 15:37Speaker 1: You could have had anything you want, but I used
- 15:40Speaker 1: to be scared because you used to be so like nah,
- 15:43Speaker 1: You'd be like you could have them and be team Jordan.
- 15:50Speaker 5: You took careful.
- 15:53Speaker 1: P though, like because you was like your PE's was
- 15:56Speaker 1: hard at that time. I had you got the red
- 15:58Speaker 1: and white twelve p M.
- 16:00Speaker 3: And I was like maybe.
- 16:02Speaker 5: He was like no, man.
- 16:05Speaker 4: Was like, only got one.
- 16:06Speaker 5: I was like ship and the high Top. I didn't.
- 16:09Speaker 5: I didn't plan. I still got him.
- 16:10Speaker 1: Yeah, they was hard. I was like can I get through?
- 16:12Speaker 1: You're like nah, not the And then he came out
- 16:14Speaker 1: the back like you can have these though. I swear
- 16:16Speaker 1: that I got Him'm gonna show y'all because he signed him.
- 16:18Speaker 1: He's like, you had these, it's a lot say something. Jump,
- 16:24Speaker 1: I'm gonna see your picture I got.
- 16:26Speaker 3: I was like they hard.
- 16:27Speaker 5: I was like they they pease, but they only gave
- 16:31Speaker 5: like the thirteen's and the twelve they gave us, but
- 16:33Speaker 5: it's only like two pair of Yeah. I remember Joe
- 16:35Speaker 5: was with them too, so kind of gave us like
- 16:38Speaker 5: the same. They give us different colors, but it was
- 16:40Speaker 5: like two.
- 16:40Speaker 3: Of each now.
- 16:41Speaker 1: But you showed me enough love with the Sneakers when
- 16:43Speaker 1: you gave me that twenty fifth anniversary Peck. I was like,
- 16:46Speaker 1: I came over your crib and he was like, all right, man,
- 16:48Speaker 1: go ahead. I'm like what he's like, you can get
- 16:51Speaker 1: get them. I started picking up something. He's like, hold on,
- 16:55Speaker 1: I need to keep them.
- 16:57Speaker 3: It was like the all white teams. She's like, no,
- 16:59Speaker 3: he was with Nike.
- 17:01Speaker 5: Man, he'd have got anything he wanted.
- 17:02Speaker 3: I wasn't big enough yet, Na, but it's all of
- 17:05Speaker 3: He always showed me a little though.
- 17:07Speaker 2: So for show Man, we gotta talk about your career. Obviously,
- 17:10Speaker 2: you know something knows you the Arizona. Then you get
- 17:12Speaker 2: to the league. Man, you got to go to Memphis
- 17:15Speaker 2: and you know what I'm saying, cooperc was he was
- 17:17Speaker 2: the Grizzlies.
- 17:18Speaker 3: How was that that first preson? Just going from you
- 17:20Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Zona the candidate.
- 17:22Speaker 5: Again, our ass kicked every night ship. We started out.
- 17:27Speaker 5: It was a fifty game season that year. So we
- 17:29Speaker 5: started out.
- 17:31Speaker 3: Four and four.
- 17:32Speaker 5: Guess so we ended up.
- 17:35Speaker 3: I'm scared to say, you know what, forty two.
- 17:40Speaker 5: So we went through. Damn. We had three double digit
- 17:45Speaker 5: losion streaks in the fifty game season.
- 17:48Speaker 4: Shout out to the Belbie.
- 17:52Speaker 5: It was fucked up because, I mean we were in
- 17:54Speaker 5: a lot of games. We were just we were young,
- 17:56Speaker 5: our to our our vets, our superstar players. Reeves he
- 18:00Speaker 5: was twenty three, twenty you know what I mean, those
- 18:04Speaker 5: are a superstars, so we no one really knew how
- 18:06Speaker 5: to win, you know what I mean. So we're being games.
- 18:09Speaker 5: Just at the end, we'll fold.
- 18:12Speaker 4: Jerseys was tight.
- 18:13Speaker 5: Yeah he wasn't back then though.
- 18:15Speaker 3: Yeah, look was hard.
- 18:17Speaker 5: The black ones are nice. Was hard, but the white
- 18:19Speaker 5: and the Till we used to be like, man, we
- 18:22Speaker 5: hate wearing this ship.
- 18:23Speaker 3: Man, listen, I ain't gonna hold you that till grizzy
- 18:31Speaker 3: y that's like a light blue fellow dr our respect.
- 18:40Speaker 3: I hate that y'all lost every game. The biggest show,
- 18:50Speaker 3: how good was at that time?
- 18:52Speaker 5: He was a bucket? Yeah, any time you get it,
- 18:54Speaker 5: I mean, he was he was just his his He
- 18:57Speaker 5: could score on anybody, you know, up he could, he
- 19:01Speaker 5: could take you, he could shoot the jumper. He was
- 19:03Speaker 5: just young, man, Like for you to be that young
- 19:05Speaker 5: and have to lead a team, especially when you're that bad,
- 19:09Speaker 5: Like I mean, all our all our events were guys
- 19:11Speaker 5: from teams that no one like, Like they gave up,
- 19:16Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Yeah, I mean it was
- 19:18Speaker 5: tough going into the a team like that and have
- 19:22Speaker 5: your superstars being your best players and no one could
- 19:25Speaker 5: lead the right direction, you know what I mean?
- 19:28Speaker 4: How do you feel about him and Tim Thomas? Who
- 19:31Speaker 4: do you think was better?
- 19:33Speaker 5: I mean I have to go with Sif Man high school.
- 19:36Speaker 5: Tim Thomas was an animal.
- 19:39Speaker 4: Stories behind so want to.
- 19:43Speaker 5: But I mean, like just from being being close to
- 19:45Speaker 5: Sharif and watching him play, I'd have to go with
- 19:48Speaker 5: Street because I mean it was like effortless, you know,
- 19:51Speaker 5: averaging twenty some points is his first year and just
- 19:55Speaker 5: keeping the same face and you know, I mean, just
- 19:57Speaker 5: just just going buckets.
- 19:58Speaker 4: So yeah, he was wrong brief man, Okay, sure, man,
- 20:02Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
- 20:02Speaker 2: I had some tough times with the Grids and real tough,
- 20:05Speaker 2: and then you got to it when you went to Sacramento.
- 20:07Speaker 5: I won more games than sacrament in my first year
- 20:10Speaker 5: than three years.
- 20:10Speaker 3: And that.
- 20:13Speaker 5: I'm not even I was like, borderline sixty your first
- 20:16Speaker 5: year we won sixty. We won sixty two games my
- 20:19Speaker 5: first year in Sacramento, and I know we didn't win
- 20:23Speaker 5: that in three years in Vancouver becuse I added up.
- 20:26Speaker 5: We got eight, Like started putting the fust to count.
- 20:35Speaker 5: Fifty eight games in my three years compared to sixty
- 20:37Speaker 5: two in one year in Sacramento.
- 20:41Speaker 3: What was like?
- 20:41Speaker 5: What was that like?
- 20:42Speaker 1: When getting a chance to go to Sacramento with See
- 20:44Speaker 1: Webb and those guys and the team that was on
- 20:46Speaker 1: the verge of already being good, and then you go
- 20:49Speaker 1: there and you make them great?
- 20:50Speaker 5: It was It was like kind of unbelievable because I
- 20:55Speaker 5: knew the rest of peace. Michael Hya, he was the
- 20:57Speaker 5: owner of the team my last year Vancouver. He was like,
- 21:01Speaker 5: you know, we're gonna move to Memphis next year, We're
- 21:03Speaker 5: gonna start fresh. We want to get you a spot
- 21:06Speaker 5: because a lot of own you already know, Jeff, a
- 21:07Speaker 5: lot of owners are ain't gonna come tell you they're
- 21:09Speaker 5: gonna put you wherever the hell they want to put
- 21:11Speaker 5: you in to make them better. So he came to me,
- 21:13Speaker 5: he's like, where would you if we trade you, where
- 21:16Speaker 5: would you want to go? He's like, give me your
- 21:18Speaker 5: top five places. So I gave him, Like you know,
- 21:20Speaker 5: I gave Phoenix because I'm from here. I gave Sacramento.
- 21:24Speaker 5: I might even give him Indiana and tell you truth,
- 21:26Speaker 5: because I mean they was back then. They was kind
- 21:28Speaker 5: of like to one of the top teams. So I
- 21:30Speaker 5: wanted to go in to be on a good team.
- 21:33Speaker 5: And he's like, well, where's the number one team you
- 21:36Speaker 5: want to go? And I told him I said Sacramento.
- 21:40Speaker 5: And so I didn't hear nothing about it again until
- 21:42Speaker 5: I got traded. So I was out. I was at
- 21:43Speaker 5: the gyms like midnight and I'm working out. So my
- 21:46Speaker 5: brother's like, you know, dang dings to everybody, No dang.
- 21:49Speaker 5: So he get a call they just traded your brother Sacramento.
- 21:54Speaker 5: So he's like, they just traded your sacrament said well shit,
- 21:56Speaker 5: that wouldn't I would have heard about. So I went
- 21:58Speaker 5: to my car. You know, got the Vancouver number, you
- 22:01Speaker 5: got the Sacramand number. Like something happened. And so going there,
- 22:05Speaker 5: I didn't know how the fans would take me in,
- 22:08Speaker 5: how the team would take me in, replacing you know,
- 22:11Speaker 5: Jay Will and I mean they made me feel like
- 22:14Speaker 5: I was there my whole my whole career. Man. That's
- 22:16Speaker 5: it just made the so easy just to go in
- 22:20Speaker 5: there and play and just be accepted and just made
- 22:23Speaker 5: it easy for me.
- 22:24Speaker 2: And what's so crazy, Like the team that y'all had
- 22:26Speaker 2: would have been so good in today's are y'all kind
- 22:28Speaker 2: of like set the trend for it, like y'all change,
- 22:30Speaker 2: like the way that they play, especially adding you y'all
- 22:32Speaker 2: would have went crazy in this I mean I went
- 22:34Speaker 2: crazy in that era too, But y'all would have been
- 22:36Speaker 2: so good now, especially with the position because I think
- 22:38Speaker 2: Chris Webbits was one of the most underrated players.
- 22:39Speaker 5: Ever is probably one of the best superstars I played with,
- 22:42Speaker 5: probably him, him and Mellow, iould say, but just going
- 22:46Speaker 5: there the thing that the thing Webb held himself accountable,
- 22:52Speaker 5: So that kind of trickled down that everybody that what
- 22:54Speaker 5: made it so good to where it wasn't pointing fingers
- 22:57Speaker 5: at anybody and doing that. But he always he fucked up.
- 23:00Speaker 5: He was I was like, shit, that's not bad. I'm
- 23:02Speaker 5: gonna get it right, and that kind of opened the thing. Well,
- 23:04Speaker 5: you know what web could say, it I could say,
- 23:07Speaker 5: you know what I mean, So that's kind of trickled
- 23:08Speaker 5: down made it so good. Blotti was I think Vadi
- 23:11Speaker 5: was the leader on that team. I kind of going
- 23:13Speaker 5: to Atlanta. I kind of brought Vloody style to Atlanta.
- 23:19Speaker 5: You know, I come and you know, beggame about the
- 23:21Speaker 5: table or when we land where we're gonna eat. We're
- 23:25Speaker 5: gonna go stop and eat it somewhere. Everybody coming, you
- 23:27Speaker 5: know what I mean. So that's what kind of made us,
- 23:29Speaker 5: you know, feel comfortable with each other on the court.
- 23:31Speaker 5: You gotta be you gotta be friends off the court,
- 23:33Speaker 5: man in order to be a good team.
- 23:35Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's they should hear that. We part of
- 23:37Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
- 23:38Speaker 2: Been around this week, heard them from a couple players
- 23:39Speaker 2: said like that, real chemistry is.
- 23:41Speaker 3: Off the court. If you can get on off the court,
- 23:43Speaker 3: if I ain't rocking, it's evident when when she gets
- 23:45Speaker 3: real over the court.
- 23:46Speaker 5: For sure.
- 23:47Speaker 2: I was one of the most unselfish teams that I
- 23:49Speaker 2: saw pass that had two leap passing big.
- 23:52Speaker 4: That was crazy. Then I had my most underrated six man,
- 23:55Speaker 4: Bobby Jack that was my guy on to live.
- 24:00Speaker 5: He gets that thing up, but he was looking to
- 24:02Speaker 5: do nothing else. Get that fu up, bro my god too,
- 24:10Speaker 5: he shoot that bitch.
- 24:14Speaker 1: But all the players actually had though, Like Geral Wallace
- 24:18Speaker 1: on the bench, you got he You had all these
- 24:20Speaker 1: guys you played with Insac.
- 24:22Speaker 5: Jared was nineteen at the time too, Damn he just
- 24:25Speaker 5: came from high school. But I mean, it was just
- 24:27Speaker 5: like everybody was okay with whoever score, as long as
- 24:32Speaker 5: he was winning. It wasn't like I've been on teams
- 24:36Speaker 5: were like if you don't if I don't get my points,
- 24:37Speaker 5: I'm gonna be on the plane shitty, you know what
- 24:40Speaker 5: I mean. And there was never a time when that
- 24:43Speaker 5: happened in Sacramento. Not one time.
- 24:45Speaker 4: Paigeon was putting that my fuck up there. Yeah.
- 24:47Speaker 5: Remember he's six ten too, Soarli is too. He was sixteen.
- 24:52Speaker 3: It was nice clip elite. He was super nice. But
- 24:56Speaker 3: people don't know how tall he is.
- 24:58Speaker 5: Yeah he was about six eight.
- 25:00Speaker 2: Yeah, but he he was the reason why that Magic
- 25:02Speaker 2: team was so good. People talking like people sleep him.
- 25:05Speaker 2: Paying a six eight point guard for the team changed
- 25:07Speaker 2: that whole situation with them.
- 25:09Speaker 5: He's a funny motherfucker too, man, understand he says, he said.
- 25:19Speaker 3: Now you speak about your like your way of leading.
- 25:22Speaker 1: Like when I first got in the league, like I
- 25:24Speaker 1: took everything so serious, like for the game, I was like,
- 25:28Speaker 1: I want to play like we had preseason games. I'm
- 25:30Speaker 1: all serious and I'll never forget our first preseason game.
- 25:33Speaker 1: Wood is talking and you take a piece of paper and.
- 25:35Speaker 3: You like boom and it hit Wood And I'm like,
- 25:42Speaker 3: I never forget.
- 25:42Speaker 1: Because I was so like listening to what was saying,
- 25:45Speaker 1: like like I'm in college, like ready to run through
- 25:48Speaker 1: a wall.
- 25:48Speaker 3: He like, let's go out there and play good. You
- 25:50Speaker 3: like piece of paper. I was like, I was like,
- 25:56Speaker 3: we got it, man. He was like Mike, you know
- 26:00Speaker 3: how it was with you. They was like brothers.
- 26:05Speaker 5: Probably one of my favorite coaches. So look at this
- 26:07Speaker 5: story with Woody. Right, So I'd always go into Woody's office.
- 26:11Speaker 5: I don't know if you were there yet. Were you there?
- 26:13Speaker 5: We almost spot somebody in the locker room. Look, he
- 26:17Speaker 5: pulls me in and pulls that's crazy. He pulls me
- 26:21Speaker 5: in the office like before before the shooting around. He's like, hey,
- 26:25Speaker 5: you think I should start go try to start a
- 26:27Speaker 5: fight with somebody and there's a light of fire on
- 26:29Speaker 5: their ass. I'm like, you gonna make sure you picked
- 26:31Speaker 5: the right out there. I don't have to get your ass.
- 26:34Speaker 5: He comes in there. I think he started going that mom. Yeah,
- 26:38Speaker 5: so he started so he started talking ship, but then
- 26:42Speaker 5: he thinking his coach is going to hold him back.
- 26:44Speaker 5: But Moe got up out of see they had to
- 26:47Speaker 5: hold mo back and then and was about to whoop
- 26:51Speaker 5: his ass, and then he took me. We got done.
- 26:56Speaker 5: He went in the back in the office. He's like,
- 26:58Speaker 5: that was good right there to Ship. You're lucky motherfucking
- 27:02Speaker 5: back because he was about to fuck you up.
- 27:08Speaker 4: The way you bro.
- 27:14Speaker 5: Was easy to MoU was easy to get the most here.
- 27:16Speaker 5: That's why were you there when they made him grows
- 27:19Speaker 5: hair out until it comes to my last year.
- 27:22Speaker 3: Oh that would have been crying that bullshit.
- 27:25Speaker 5: So we got some old hair, you know, you see
- 27:27Speaker 5: more been a ball since like eighty seven. Moa was
- 27:33Speaker 5: my guy up. So so we get there, so we
- 27:35Speaker 5: put it get we put it back together and me
- 27:37Speaker 5: Joe and Smooth will give you ten thousand dollars for
- 27:41Speaker 5: every month you grow your hair. So he comes out
- 27:47Speaker 5: this ship about that high and so nappy ship. So
- 27:51Speaker 5: we like he growned it though. You know what I
- 27:54Speaker 5: mean like we didn't think it could grow. So remember
- 27:57Speaker 5: we were in Phoenix before they traded me. So was
- 27:59Speaker 5: in walk through. I was saying, I was like, today's
- 28:02Speaker 5: the trade deadline. If anybody owe anybody money, but get
- 28:06Speaker 5: that ship today because we don't know who's gonna be
- 28:07Speaker 5: here tomorrow. They traded him. He's got traded with me
- 28:11Speaker 5: to Washington, and so I asked him. I asked him,
- 28:15Speaker 5: like a month ago, then, did anybody pay you? He said, ship,
- 28:18Speaker 5: you don't want to pay me. They didn't give you.
- 28:21Speaker 5: He can grew share out for nothing, but I'm one
- 28:23Speaker 5: that paid him. Yoh.
- 28:25Speaker 1: He used to mess with Mo so much. They used
- 28:27Speaker 1: to play this ru UFC game before practice all the time.
- 28:30Speaker 1: They would whoop his every day. I'll be coming in,
- 28:35Speaker 1: I'll be listening to him.
- 28:42Speaker 3: Best with him every day, like.
- 28:43Speaker 5: Mo fucking suck. Remember the shoes so he used to
- 28:47Speaker 5: wear this trying. I hate working with my God. Yeah,
- 28:50Speaker 5: I love about but he he coming with trunners, remember
- 28:54Speaker 5: the Jordan trunners. Trunners. Damn, come on, man, you got
- 28:58Speaker 5: socks something?
- 29:01Speaker 3: No shows.
- 29:02Speaker 5: I'm like, come on, man, you gotta put something on man.
- 29:06Speaker 3: Them just take over.
- 29:09Speaker 5: Now play NBA games in there.
- 29:13Speaker 1: I love Mo, but the last thing about because I
- 29:15Speaker 1: love he was cool. He was super cool. But they
- 29:18Speaker 1: hung his outfit up.
- 29:21Speaker 3: What they hung it up in the locker room, Bro,
- 29:23Speaker 3: from the top of the ceiling, Bro with the pain
- 29:26Speaker 3: shirt like he hung it up.
- 29:30Speaker 1: Bro.
- 29:31Speaker 3: MO came in from shooting. Oh my god, I lost it. Bro.
- 29:36Speaker 3: He was so mad and he had these true religion.
- 29:40Speaker 5: Ya returned.
- 29:42Speaker 1: Was so funny, Yo, has your bro like I hang
- 29:50Speaker 1: over outfit up? Look at this ship and they just
- 29:52Speaker 1: had it hanging terrible my fun but that ship was
- 29:58Speaker 1: so funny.
- 29:58Speaker 2: Bro.
- 29:59Speaker 3: That was about rookie year. I couldn't believe. It's the NBA. Bro,
- 30:03Speaker 3: what's going on?
- 30:04Speaker 5: You gotta have fun, man, You with each other for
- 30:06Speaker 5: nine months. You gotta make the best of every situation
- 30:09Speaker 5: you're with. You're with the guys, where you're with your family,
- 30:13Speaker 5: So you gotta have fun, man.
- 30:14Speaker 4: For sure.
- 30:15Speaker 2: Man, I got to ask about this because obviously I'm
- 30:17Speaker 2: tackinging on teams. Was crazy when y'all like heard of
- 30:20Speaker 2: Kyle Rien that this ship was real with the Tim
- 30:22Speaker 2: Donahue stuff, Like, how was that reaction.
- 30:24Speaker 5: Amongst y'all because we knew that before he came out.
- 30:27Speaker 3: Damn it was.
- 30:28Speaker 5: I mean, it's a funny situation because Chucky Brown. You
- 30:33Speaker 5: know Chucky Brown's fourteen seasons. You know, I'm in my
- 30:36Speaker 5: I'm in my fourth. Man, I'm talking cash ship in La.
- 30:40Speaker 5: So like the Mulus, the best owners ever, like they
- 30:43Speaker 5: put you at movie premieers, they put you at these,
- 30:46Speaker 5: they put you at this and in order to be
- 30:48Speaker 5: seen and stuff. So I was at movie premiers and
- 30:50Speaker 5: the red carpet talking shit, sh it's over with. Ain't
- 30:53Speaker 5: nothing they could do them, Ain't nothing. They can't stop
- 30:56Speaker 5: us on the radio talking ship. So I mean, Chuck
- 30:59Speaker 5: you Brown pulled me so they might. You know, if
- 31:02Speaker 5: they're bringing a certain crew, it's gonna go a certain way.
- 31:06Speaker 5: It was like, man, bullshit, Man, ain't no way. We're
- 31:09Speaker 5: up twenty points, server game. Ain't nothing even if they
- 31:11Speaker 5: do it and can stop. And so just watching that, man,
- 31:15Speaker 5: just seeing it looking back now, that shit makes me sick, man,
- 31:18Speaker 5: because I think we could. That could have been our
- 31:21Speaker 5: championship for damn sure. And so going and playing New Jersey,
- 31:25Speaker 5: they swept New Jersey. I think we beat the shit
- 31:28Speaker 5: out of New Jersey that year too. I think we
- 31:30Speaker 5: being a bout fifty I think one time going to
- 31:32Speaker 5: New Jersey. But it was just just sad to see.
- 31:35Speaker 5: I mean, we had that we kind of shipped the
- 31:37Speaker 5: bad Game seven, but I really don't think it should
- 31:41Speaker 5: have got to Game seven.
- 31:42Speaker 2: I shouldn't sure, like you said, you look back at
- 31:45Speaker 2: especially the team I had was so crazy and then
- 31:47Speaker 2: for that to come out, and then for them like
- 31:49Speaker 2: to Africa comes out, y'all know, and it's publicized, but
- 31:52Speaker 2: then for people like to romanticize about it, just like
- 31:54Speaker 2: that's so crazy that, like, especially like y'all worked so
- 31:57Speaker 2: hard for moments and play our ass off to beat
- 31:58Speaker 2: them situations. We know how many things have to fall
- 32:02Speaker 2: in the line perfectly to win the championship is like
- 32:04Speaker 2: to play your ass off and to have thats just like.
- 32:06Speaker 5: What the still makes me sick man, Like this, even
- 32:09Speaker 5: like Robert Horry shot, like I watched the highlights and
- 32:11Speaker 5: still watch the ship and I'll cut it off before
- 32:14Speaker 5: that before that going. I remember that ship like it
- 32:16Speaker 5: was yesterday, watching that month for boom walking in the
- 32:20Speaker 5: locker room, Damn, we gotta go one more.
- 32:22Speaker 3: That broke everybody heart.
- 32:24Speaker 5: Man.
- 32:24Speaker 3: I think the whole world was pulling for you off.
- 32:26Speaker 5: Every getting that they had our champagne already in the
- 32:28Speaker 5: locker room. They have to put all that ship back, Damn.
- 32:33Speaker 4: I know all the time. Yeah, I think you just
- 32:35Speaker 4: had a moment of silence.
- 32:39Speaker 1: There because I'm thinking about this, watching thinking about the champagne.
- 32:48Speaker 1: I'm like, I remember we won, we had that champ.
- 32:51Speaker 5: That got you one. That's all. That's all that, man.
- 32:54Speaker 5: You get to go home, take one home. Man, That's
- 32:55Speaker 5: what That's what it's about.
- 32:56Speaker 1: Bro.
- 32:56Speaker 5: You could say. And I made people say they want
- 32:59Speaker 5: NBA Championship for congratulations on that I finally got in one.
- 33:03Speaker 3: I was so fie something.
- 33:04Speaker 5: It's good man, y'all deserve it, man, I.
- 33:06Speaker 2: Appreciate it for sure. I got to ask, man, what
- 33:09Speaker 2: is your favorite city that you played in favor? What
- 33:11Speaker 2: favorite city?
- 33:13Speaker 5: I like playing home and I like being in Phoenix
- 33:15Speaker 5: just because I get to see my family, I got
- 33:16Speaker 5: to stay at home. I always love coming back home
- 33:20Speaker 5: as fifty people at the game, one hundred people at
- 33:23Speaker 5: the game, you know, I mean just going and just
- 33:24Speaker 5: playing in front of your family and friends. I love
- 33:27Speaker 5: coming back home.
- 33:29Speaker 1: When you leave Sacramento, you come to Atlanta, and what's
- 33:33Speaker 1: that like? Because that first year y'all in Atlanta, well
- 33:36Speaker 1: maybe your second year or whatever you y'all played the
- 33:38Speaker 1: Celtics in.
- 33:38Speaker 3: The playoffs, was the first year I think, Yeah, y'all
- 33:40Speaker 3: got it cracking. It was.
- 33:41Speaker 5: I mean it was different because, like I said, no
- 33:44Speaker 5: one really I don't think me and Joe were only
- 33:46Speaker 5: two people that ever been in the playoffs, and so
- 33:49Speaker 5: for to come there and have the city on fire
- 33:51Speaker 5: like that and take them to seven, I mean, we
- 33:54Speaker 5: got our ass beat every time in Boston, but I
- 33:56Speaker 5: mean we we had that shit on fire in It
- 34:00Speaker 5: was just I think it had to do I'm not
- 34:03Speaker 5: saying it was all me, but I think it had
- 34:04Speaker 5: to do it with a lot of just bringing the
- 34:06Speaker 5: guys together and just hanging out and just you know,
- 34:10Speaker 5: trusting people and ship like that. So I mean just
- 34:13Speaker 5: being a c like that and putting that on fire.
- 34:14Speaker 1: It was fun, man, because I came to next year
- 34:17Speaker 1: and the buzz was still there. When I got drafted.
- 34:19Speaker 3: It was like, as I had the.
- 34:22Speaker 1: Fight video with kg S, it was just like, yeah,
- 34:27Speaker 1: he had the rocky, rocky stuff going.
- 34:29Speaker 3: It was just like a buzz in the city and
- 34:31Speaker 3: I was like, see.
- 34:32Speaker 5: You got to see it. You didn't get to see
- 34:33Speaker 5: it when it was really bad, because it used to
- 34:35Speaker 5: be really bad ten years before they made the playoffs.
- 34:38Speaker 3: Yeah, I only seen the good.
- 34:41Speaker 4: Steven Jackson, it was wicked. It was wicked Jersey.
- 34:48Speaker 3: Yeah, it was nasty.
- 34:50Speaker 1: I only seen the good. So but when I got there,
- 34:53Speaker 1: Vivian and they was it was rolling. I came into
- 34:56Speaker 1: a winning team.
- 34:57Speaker 4: So you're there with Flip.
- 34:59Speaker 1: Nah wasn't there, but you you probably don't remember. He
- 35:02Speaker 1: had just left and so you know how smooth is.
- 35:07Speaker 3: He Like you took a C lost spot and you
- 35:09Speaker 3: took Flip spot. And I'm like, I don't even know
- 35:12Speaker 3: who they are.
- 35:13Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, A was young. I think it was
- 35:16Speaker 5: like a C like second year.
- 35:17Speaker 3: I'm like, He's like, you took the spot.
- 35:20Speaker 1: They're gonna be at you because we played them in
- 35:21Speaker 1: the preseason and Flip made me fall was cold.
- 35:25Speaker 5: Motherfucker man.
- 35:27Speaker 1: A lot of people find he hit me with a
- 35:28Speaker 1: snatch back and I feel I looked at the bench.
- 35:32Speaker 1: Joe Smith was like this, I looked at Ben looking.
- 35:38Speaker 5: That's why you can't pay defense like that, man, That's what.
- 35:45Speaker 3: The shot he made me so big, Josh stand up
- 35:51Speaker 3: point that.
- 35:52Speaker 5: I'm like, that's a crazy I like the story that
- 35:54Speaker 5: you told about here shooting threes to he he wasn't
- 35:59Speaker 5: about it. And my boy used to boots Smooth. I
- 36:02Speaker 5: was like, he turned around like, Smooth, it's the home fans.
- 36:13Speaker 5: He would just shoot it just because the show them.
- 36:17Speaker 5: Shut the fuck up. Yeah, you know what I mean.
- 36:19Speaker 1: Smooth was so you remember the bet you made with him? Man,
- 36:23Speaker 1: you remember ship you got to break it up. You
- 36:26Speaker 1: bet him like maybe like five or ten thousand dollars
- 36:29Speaker 1: that he can shoot. He couldn't shoot more than ten
- 36:31Speaker 1: threes that year and he would shoot all right in
- 36:35Speaker 1: front of the three point. But he had it was
- 36:38Speaker 1: like his best year. He almost should have made the
- 36:39Speaker 1: All Star team. It was my first year and he
- 36:41Speaker 1: would not shoot threes. He was just pump fake, take
- 36:44Speaker 1: a step in. He was making them and he was
- 36:46Speaker 1: like he would not shoot he like one. I was like, yeah,
- 36:51Speaker 1: but it worked. I'm like, damn Bibby really playing like man.
- 36:54Speaker 1: He figured like he figures Smooth.
- 36:55Speaker 4: Out like that.
- 36:56Speaker 5: He's the most athletic player I play with and that
- 36:59Speaker 5: I've seen that motherfucker do whatever you want if you
- 37:02Speaker 5: get in the open court so I try to just
- 37:04Speaker 5: you try to get get him in open court to
- 37:05Speaker 5: give him the ball to where he does he's not
- 37:07Speaker 5: standing in the spotting up. He was a monster in
- 37:10Speaker 5: the in the in the open court man.
- 37:11Speaker 1: He was one of the smartest players I played with.
- 37:13Speaker 1: He Todd never forget. He told me you want to shoot.
- 37:16Speaker 5: The ball team. I was like yeah.
- 37:18Speaker 3: He's like, when you get in, just go stand right
- 37:20Speaker 3: next to Joe.
- 37:21Speaker 5: And I was like why.
- 37:22Speaker 1: He's like, they gonna double team, They're gonna pass it
- 37:24Speaker 1: to you. You're gonna be wild. He's at work every time,
- 37:29Speaker 1: the bitch crying Joe.
- 37:31Speaker 5: Like cut through, smooth, smooth, like go ahead, smooth and
- 37:34Speaker 5: smooth in the way. So he getting shot. You know what,
- 37:39Speaker 5: We're there. You were there when we used to play
- 37:41Speaker 5: that game after durn practice.
- 37:43Speaker 3: Yeah, a shooting game.
- 37:44Speaker 5: No shoot, We had this fucked up game that remember
- 37:51Speaker 5: you got pissed this game right, So like it was
- 37:54Speaker 5: like five hundred dollars. So if it touched three hands,
- 37:57Speaker 5: your fifteen yea, the person that your thousands of Jeff
- 38:01Speaker 5: and five hundred. So we'll be running play all your
- 38:05Speaker 5: run you're running offense. Boom boom, someone shoots a jumper,
- 38:08Speaker 5: they start will start sprinting that. So like if it missed,
- 38:13Speaker 5: I tip the Jeff different, tip back to me and
- 38:14Speaker 5: I'll make it. You owe me a thousand, you owe
- 38:17Speaker 5: him five hundred. So we were shooting that like during
- 38:20Speaker 5: we like running.
- 38:20Speaker 3: Plays practice just like I can't take it serious.
- 38:26Speaker 5: Like I mean every every shot, Muffle was shooting and
- 38:29Speaker 5: just take off full speed and just person up where
- 38:31Speaker 5: they can't tap it. So when the ball hits the ground,
- 38:33Speaker 5: it's over with. So remember LD was like, man, do
- 38:36Speaker 5: that ship after So we said, like after the press
- 38:39Speaker 5: would be like five or six of us we get.
- 38:41Speaker 5: We shoot five shots. You can't move until you make
- 38:44Speaker 5: the three. So if you make if you make off five,
- 38:46Speaker 5: you don't know money. But if you if you miss
- 38:49Speaker 5: and you fuck them up and they don't make it
- 38:51Speaker 5: or they make it, you gotta you gotta old than
- 38:53Speaker 5: the money man.
- 38:54Speaker 1: They start doing that ship for anything though, like one fuck,
- 38:57Speaker 1: just be shooting by itself, come out of nowhere.
- 39:03Speaker 3: I would even shoot a jumper in practice. He don't count,
- 39:08Speaker 3: he don't count.
- 39:08Speaker 1: I was like, thank you please, crazy playing tipsy, serious
- 39:15Speaker 1: as hell.
- 39:15Speaker 3: This is in the playoffs. All type of ship we
- 39:17Speaker 3: have fun.
- 39:18Speaker 5: You gotta have fun.
- 39:18Speaker 6: Man.
- 39:19Speaker 5: We had fun out there was great.
- 39:21Speaker 3: Man. We gotta ask you know what I'm saying. So
- 39:22Speaker 3: you was young Nachos man, how was he as a rookie?
- 39:24Speaker 5: Man? He was just I mean you could tell that
- 39:27Speaker 5: he was like kind of under the under the bright
- 39:30Speaker 5: lights to where he listened to anything he said because
- 39:33Speaker 5: like everything they're telling him, like you couldn't tell you couldn't.
- 39:36Speaker 5: I didn't take anything what he said serious, you know
- 39:39Speaker 5: what I mean. But he like coming in he would
- 39:40Speaker 5: have to he had to listen, you know what I mean.
- 39:42Speaker 5: Like he's his mindset was like I gotta do what
- 39:45Speaker 5: I gotta do to get some playing time. So he
- 39:47Speaker 5: was going to try to stay in the right. That's
- 39:48Speaker 5: why they got Jordan Crawford out there because they didn't
- 39:51Speaker 5: want him, Jordan to corrupt. Yeah, they put Jordan the
- 39:56Speaker 5: trade with me, me, the fucking the fucking Wizards trying
- 39:59Speaker 5: to Yeah, because they don't want Jeff to be corrupted.
- 40:04Speaker 1: Man.
- 40:04Speaker 5: But I mean, but Jeff, Jeff was quiet. I mean,
- 40:07Speaker 5: he played his role. He wanted to like he wanted to.
- 40:09Speaker 5: I don't wanna say fit in. But as far as
- 40:13Speaker 5: just like being a rookie man being a rookie eyes
- 40:16Speaker 5: wide open. You're playing against superstars that you watch, been
- 40:19Speaker 5: watching on TV for years, and I mean, like I could,
- 40:22Speaker 5: I knew he was gonna be something special when the
- 40:25Speaker 5: time came, you know what I mean. Just I mean
- 40:27Speaker 5: it was good that I think to come from the
- 40:28Speaker 5: comfort a team that was winning, you know, and have
- 40:33Speaker 5: some good bets for him to getting ready for that
- 40:36Speaker 5: because you get the shitty team. Motherfuckers ain't gonna help you.
- 40:40Speaker 5: You go like a sucked up team. You're gonna be sitting,
- 40:43Speaker 5: You're gonna be by yourself all night. You know what
- 40:45Speaker 5: I mean. I would see you tomorrow and walking in
- 40:47Speaker 5: right before practice starts and ain't gonna be it ain't
- 40:49Speaker 5: gonna be. That's how it's gonna be.
- 40:51Speaker 4: Yeah, when he was in your prime, That's what I
- 40:53Speaker 4: want to ask you, Like, who was one of your
- 40:55Speaker 4: toughest matchups that you.
- 40:56Speaker 5: Knew you had to Ain't no over there gonna say, Marburry, Marburry.
- 41:02Speaker 5: I mean you'd like, I was never the defensive player
- 41:04Speaker 5: anyway I heard. So my main thing is like, shit,
- 41:09Speaker 5: you're gonna I would always go and I'm gonna say
- 41:11Speaker 5: the weakest player. But the guy that's really not gonna
- 41:13Speaker 5: get the most shots, Doug Christie, you need me guarding them.
- 41:17Speaker 5: Bobby Jackson with Bobby Jackson on. So, I mean the
- 41:20Speaker 5: main thing, like my thing was with Marburry, because Marbury,
- 41:24Speaker 5: he's gonna get thirty shots. He's strong, he's quick, he's fast,
- 41:29Speaker 5: and he was just I mean, he's like he's the
- 41:31Speaker 5: type of guy that, like when you go against the
- 41:33Speaker 5: point guard. His mindset was like, Okay, these are the
- 41:36Speaker 5: guys that they have trying to come up against him,
- 41:38Speaker 5: gonna go outre and try to bust his ass. He
- 41:40Speaker 5: had that mentality like for.
- 41:41Speaker 4: Real, Yeah that was a light twenty and eight guarantee
- 41:44Speaker 4: of life.
- 41:45Speaker 3: So yeah, tough.
- 41:47Speaker 4: He don't get spoken enough.
- 41:49Speaker 5: He almost made me tear my knee. Shit. He was
- 41:53Speaker 5: in Phoenix and he I kind of closed out to
- 41:56Speaker 5: him half aass, closed out and I think, okay, just
- 41:58Speaker 5: shoot it. So I kind of like and he kind
- 42:00Speaker 5: of hit me with a So I was like I
- 42:03Speaker 5: wanted to retreat, and I just like kind of sat down.
- 42:08Speaker 5: I was like dam and I got up and I
- 42:16Speaker 5: was I played the rest of the game, but by
- 42:17Speaker 5: trying the end of the game, my legs started like
- 42:20Speaker 5: it started cramping. I'm like, and that ship was like
- 42:22Speaker 5: this big damn. I said, man, please check make sure
- 42:28Speaker 5: and they I mean it wasn't torn, it was it
- 42:30Speaker 5: was spring, but that ship like this, that's on the
- 42:33Speaker 5: first time anybody shook me like that. I was trying
- 42:40Speaker 5: to let him shoot, but then I was gonna at
- 42:43Speaker 5: least try to, you know, kind of body him up
- 42:44Speaker 5: if you I can't just give him straight line to
- 42:46Speaker 5: the basket for almost killed me.
- 42:52Speaker 4: I know Memphis was, I mean, Vancouver so shitty, But
- 42:55Speaker 4: do you have a memorable game career or anything from
- 42:58Speaker 4: Vancouver that you remember, Like.
- 43:00Speaker 5: I remember playing my first game. The thing I remember.
- 43:03Speaker 5: It was a preseason game. We played the Blazers, so
- 43:07Speaker 5: I mean everybody on their team was six eight or
- 43:10Speaker 5: tall except the start of my and I remember my
- 43:13Speaker 5: first game and I turned around. They started there fucking
- 43:16Speaker 5: full court pressing me and like Scottie Pippen, she Wallace
- 43:22Speaker 5: fucking trapping me. So then fort like from the start, bro,
- 43:25Speaker 5: I can remember that like it was yesterday. I was like, damn,
- 43:28Speaker 5: if this ship gonna be like this, I don't know
- 43:30Speaker 5: if I want I don't think I want to play
- 43:32Speaker 5: no like six eight six night there. I mean, their
- 43:37Speaker 5: team was big, so it was like coming to trap,
- 43:40Speaker 5: I'm like, damn man. It was just like once I
- 43:42Speaker 5: got out there, I was okay, but there's no really.
- 43:45Speaker 5: I mean, I had a lot of assists when I
- 43:47Speaker 5: was in in Vancouver, but that's the main thing I
- 43:50Speaker 5: played with my dude, my mood out though, roof, and
- 43:53Speaker 5: all I did was just standing out there and pass him.
- 43:54Speaker 5: He's shot. So I got I got my highest I
- 43:59Speaker 5: let the I was in the top ten and assists
- 44:01Speaker 5: for three years out there, I think.
- 44:03Speaker 3: So you have some good memories, nigga. It wasn't always sorry.
- 44:09Speaker 3: You got buckets and drafted.
- 44:11Speaker 5: I said, I get drafted was a good memory, you know.
- 44:14Speaker 5: And I got a story on that too. I got it.
- 44:16Speaker 5: So it was between me and Oliver Candy to get
- 44:19Speaker 5: drafted number one. So I got super agent David Falk,
- 44:24Speaker 5: and you know, he's like, yeah, they're gonna they're gonna
- 44:27Speaker 5: wait till the day of the draft to figure out
- 44:28Speaker 5: what they're gonna pick. So the drafts in Vancouver, and
- 44:33Speaker 5: you know when you said at the table, you're there,
- 44:34Speaker 5: so like he comes back here, like they're gonna take
- 44:36Speaker 5: Olliver Candy one. Grizzly's gonna take you to like. But
- 44:42Speaker 5: I mean, it's just been there's nothing about the city.
- 44:45Speaker 5: I was just. I was nineteen, I just turned twenty.
- 44:47Speaker 5: I got a family. I don't want to move to Canada, man,
- 44:50Speaker 5: in a different country. So I go up to the
- 44:53Speaker 5: I go up to the meeting rooms. I'm with the
- 44:57Speaker 5: GM and the co coach and my agent there, and
- 45:01Speaker 5: he was like, I remember looking out the window, man,
- 45:03Speaker 5: it's I'm from Arizona. Y'all see how it is here.
- 45:05Speaker 5: We get seventy seven days in a row over one
- 45:08Speaker 5: hundred degrees, so we don't see no rain. So I'm
- 45:11Speaker 5: looking out the window and it's raining, it's dark and
- 45:14Speaker 5: it's noon. I'm like, man just telling me. I said, look,
- 45:19Speaker 5: I don't want to play here. That says nothing against
- 45:23Speaker 5: you guys, nonhe against the city, the fans, the team.
- 45:26Speaker 5: I just I told him the same thing. I'm young,
- 45:28Speaker 5: I want to be We're gonna pick you anyway, I said,
- 45:32Speaker 5: damn shift team. Minutes later, I was walking around the
- 45:37Speaker 5: thing in the Vancouver. Man, it was three years of ship.
- 45:45Speaker 4: You made it through those day up there, bro. You
- 45:49Speaker 4: went to the joint for a little bit, right, all right?
- 45:52Speaker 4: You know what I mean? What camp? You though, like
- 45:55Speaker 4: wanting to work on your game though, because it seemed
- 45:57Speaker 4: like that you was depressed out there. Now, I wouldn't
- 45:59Speaker 4: say depressed, but down.
- 46:00Speaker 5: I mean, I just I mean because when we weren't
- 46:02Speaker 5: like getting our ass kicked like that. I've always worked,
- 46:04Speaker 5: you know, ever since I got to When I got
- 46:06Speaker 5: to U of A, I would work my ass off
- 46:07Speaker 5: and was like when I got to the league, I
- 46:09Speaker 5: even worked harder. So my main thing was just like
- 46:12Speaker 5: just being on top of your game, and you know,
- 46:14Speaker 5: things were trying for good. And the first pick was
- 46:17Speaker 5: the Clippers. You know back then it was a that
- 46:19Speaker 5: was a fucked up situation, like the organization. I think
- 46:24Speaker 5: everything happens for a reason, man. So I mean, like
- 46:27Speaker 5: I said, Michael Heise, trade me the sacrament of Kings
- 46:29Speaker 5: without him, who knows what happened?
- 46:33Speaker 3: Legend was built for sure?
- 46:35Speaker 2: For sure, I gotta ask you, I know, obviously still
- 46:37Speaker 2: tuning the game on your coaching and staying on tune
- 46:39Speaker 2: with it.
- 46:40Speaker 3: What is you know some of the young players are
- 46:41Speaker 3: mind you yourself?
- 46:46Speaker 5: I like you know that some people that game I
- 46:48Speaker 5: don't know if they remind me on a subbingd I like,
- 46:50Speaker 5: I like Dame, I like something I like step I
- 46:55Speaker 5: love step like Steph's mindset in just the way that
- 46:58Speaker 5: he plays in the shots and the best shooter to
- 47:01Speaker 5: ever played a game. I remember all this ship once
- 47:09Speaker 5: I leave here. But I mean, I mean, just I
- 47:11Speaker 5: watched basketball. I like to see just guy, it's a
- 47:14Speaker 5: different game now, Like it's a lot of dripple handoffs
- 47:18Speaker 5: and stuff like that, but a lot of three point shooting.
- 47:21Speaker 5: But my main guy, Like, if I had to pick
- 47:23Speaker 5: one guy that like, I'm gonna go.
- 47:24Speaker 3: At the end, I'm not to say Dame, Yeah yeah,
- 47:29Speaker 3: dang bro.
- 47:30Speaker 2: And we talked to Dame earlier and it's like he
- 47:31Speaker 2: don't get enough just do he does? He does, don't
- 47:35Speaker 2: get enough just and he does it. He does it
- 47:36Speaker 2: at the right time of games, you know, like a
- 47:39Speaker 2: lot of game winners and stuff like that.
- 47:41Speaker 5: But he stopped up.
- 47:44Speaker 1: That's one thing that you like you did too. You
- 47:46Speaker 1: hit big tim shots, like in the clutch. You always
- 47:49Speaker 1: showed up. Even when you was in Atlanta. I remember
- 47:51Speaker 1: we used to run that out of bounds player. I
- 47:53Speaker 1: run it for my high school team. Used to I
- 47:56Speaker 1: was running the big three. What do he has some
- 48:03Speaker 1: good players, but I just remember you to make big
- 48:07Speaker 1: shots off there. You set the backscreen, get the ball,
- 48:10Speaker 1: come off, one dribble, pull up.
- 48:11Speaker 5: Same. My thing is strong, Mine is a strong thing man.
- 48:14Speaker 5: So I always like I've always had a strong mind.
- 48:17Speaker 5: I could be playing golf and it'd be down forty
- 48:19Speaker 5: strokes on the whole eighteen. I still think I've got
- 48:22Speaker 5: a chance to win.
- 48:23Speaker 4: He don't.
- 48:29Speaker 3: Come back of the site.
- 48:31Speaker 5: I feel I put enough work in, Like I've worked
- 48:33Speaker 5: hard enough on my shots. Every shot I took I
- 48:35Speaker 5: thought was going there. And so I mean it's just
- 48:38Speaker 5: just putting in the time.
- 48:40Speaker 4: That my fucker pick and roll with you. And see
- 48:42Speaker 4: Web used to be so healy too.
- 48:45Speaker 5: What killed him was Webb's jumper like Web, Like I said,
- 48:48Speaker 5: I don't even think Web gets enough credit that he
- 48:50Speaker 5: should be getting. In fact, I mean he's probably the
- 48:53Speaker 5: best big man passer probably ever played the game. Top
- 48:56Speaker 5: three for sure, and I mean he had the soft hands.
- 48:59Speaker 5: He catch any thing you throw, the knock down, the
- 49:02Speaker 5: jump shot, and the main thing with him was that
- 49:04Speaker 5: he held himself accountable. That's what made him the top
- 49:09Speaker 5: top player that I played with, Yeah, because he used
- 49:12Speaker 5: to set you up for all kind of open He
- 49:15Speaker 5: was still end up with twenty eight. It was in
- 49:18Speaker 5: the past, but he still want to score twenty eight
- 49:20Speaker 5: points for sure.
- 49:22Speaker 1: You play with some cold players, like you just said,
- 49:26Speaker 1: see you Webb underrated, should be one of the top
- 49:29Speaker 1: power forwards all time. But like you played with Mellow,
- 49:32Speaker 1: you play with Joe Johnson. I always go back and
- 49:34Speaker 1: forth and say who was the better isolation player ship,
- 49:39Speaker 1: and I always picked Joe. I think Joe was the
- 49:41Speaker 1: best isolation player I ever seen.
- 49:42Speaker 5: I mean, it's tough. They both I think they are
- 49:45Speaker 5: both two different types. Joe kind of used his strength more, yeah,
- 49:50Speaker 5: and uh and Melow was more use his height to
- 49:52Speaker 5: where like he'll shoot over you or step back or
- 49:54Speaker 5: something like that. Wonderable pullups. But I mean, Ship, that's hard.
- 49:58Speaker 5: That's a hard decision to make.
- 50:00Speaker 4: Eight.
- 50:02Speaker 3: He put you in the ring, right, Yeah, he played
- 50:04Speaker 3: with them up close. That's a good question, bro, That's.
- 50:06Speaker 5: Tough though, A good question I don't answer.
- 50:10Speaker 4: On I'm taking Mellow just because to me, well, y'all
- 50:12Speaker 4: niggas was in the league. What I'm saying, I just
- 50:14Speaker 4: feel like Mellow had that inside game too, but Joe
- 50:17Speaker 4: did had that postworker like Melo though.
- 50:22Speaker 5: Joe Scott.
- 50:25Speaker 6: One to hand jumper, mellowing that body and you, God
- 50:28Speaker 6: damn you, I've seen even personal that he's built like
- 50:32Speaker 6: Lebron James.
- 50:35Speaker 5: That's a bit you can't lose either way. I think
- 50:38Speaker 5: neither one of them get the justice that they deserve.
- 50:41Speaker 2: They both cold speaking Lebron use the part of that
- 50:44Speaker 2: I'm saying show that he does seem how was that
- 50:47Speaker 2: it was different?
- 50:47Speaker 1: Man?
- 50:48Speaker 5: What something I wasn't used to it, you know what
- 50:51Speaker 5: I mean? Like as far as I wasn't playing that
- 50:53Speaker 5: much anywhere, I was playing about twelve minutes a game,
- 50:56Speaker 5: and just it was different. Man, There's nothing like I
- 50:59Speaker 5: ever been in before, as far as like body fat
- 51:04Speaker 5: testsing every week if you like, if you don't make
- 51:08Speaker 5: the body fat tests, you gotta you gotta do extra cardo,
- 51:11Speaker 5: you gotta weigh yourself every week. No, I had to
- 51:15Speaker 5: pay for one of my jerseys to take my jersey home.
- 51:18Speaker 5: I had to pay for a jersey there. I think
- 51:21Speaker 5: they keep all of them. I don't know what they
- 51:22Speaker 5: keep them for, but it was hard to get some
- 51:24Speaker 5: stuff out of there, and it was just different. I
- 51:27Speaker 5: mean it was it was something different, that pat own
- 51:30Speaker 5: ship that he does and but something I wasn't used to.
- 51:35Speaker 5: It wasn't my best years or best time there, but
- 51:38Speaker 5: like I said, I was playing a little bit of
- 51:39Speaker 5: the game in my mind. Stting that started, My mind
- 51:41Speaker 5: started to go like maybe it's time for me to
- 51:43Speaker 5: be done, you know, you know all that.
- 51:48Speaker 2: Yeah, especially with all the media circus that came with
- 51:52Speaker 2: being on that team, Like you said, you transition in
- 51:54Speaker 2: your career. Can imagine that's a lot to deal with
- 51:55Speaker 2: because that's like even now a lot of people don't
- 51:57Speaker 2: want to deal with the Lakers because they don't want
- 51:59Speaker 2: to deal with come the playing with Lebron. I can
- 52:01Speaker 2: imagine that exception that y'all was getting hate. Everybody hated
- 52:04Speaker 2: you all at that time.
- 52:05Speaker 5: It was it was it was it was crazy man,
- 52:07Speaker 5: because like every like the hot hotels, I mean thousands
- 52:11Speaker 5: people outside the hotels just waiting to get autographs and
- 52:14Speaker 5: just everywhere you go.
- 52:15Speaker 4: And it was different. It was differently he was in
- 52:19Speaker 4: the rock start it comes up the heat on us. Yeah,
- 52:22Speaker 4: that was crazy. Testing for body is crazy ship. I
- 52:26Speaker 4: couldn't I couldn't played for the heat.
- 52:32Speaker 1: Well, you know what's crazy, like testing body talking about
- 52:38Speaker 1: wait and stuff. Bro, you used to do perfect push
- 52:41Speaker 1: ups in the middle of practice.
- 52:44Speaker 5: You told you told Lou I didn't work out man,
- 52:49Speaker 5: push ups, Bro. Way you've seen our weight Bro, it
- 52:55Speaker 5: was it was upstairs.
- 52:57Speaker 3: Have you been to London.
- 52:58Speaker 5: I've been to Like it's nice.
- 53:00Speaker 1: What they got a whole new facility off in and nowhere.
- 53:03Speaker 1: It's a it's in Brookhaven. Man, it's unbelievable, really unbelievable.
- 53:07Speaker 1: But the weight room you're talking about, it was terrible.
- 53:11Speaker 5: Do push ups, bro.
- 53:12Speaker 3: He would be in the middle, he had these perfect
- 53:14Speaker 3: push ups. He'll look to the sidelight, but get in there.
- 53:17Speaker 3: He could do a perfect push up. I'm like, this
- 53:19Speaker 3: could not be the NBA.
- 53:20Speaker 4: Bro.
- 53:22Speaker 6: My way out.
- 53:24Speaker 5: I'm trying to get you ready.
- 53:26Speaker 3: I'm like doing perfect push ups.
- 53:28Speaker 6: Practice would once you started hitting the weight room heavy though,
- 53:32Speaker 6: because you were not always lifted.
- 53:34Speaker 5: But they, like when I was in Sacramento, they kind
- 53:37Speaker 5: of frowned upon lifting. So when I was a Sacramento
- 53:40Speaker 5: I came back one year and they're like, Mike, I
- 53:42Speaker 5: can't keep lifting like that. You look like a linebackers.
- 53:45Speaker 5: I'm like, see what you want to do is sit
- 53:47Speaker 5: at home and do nothing.
- 53:48Speaker 3: I got I'm I left Cardio, Mike.
- 53:51Speaker 5: No, hell, I got hurt.
- 53:54Speaker 4: I got hurt twice.
- 53:55Speaker 5: I'll never do Cardio again. I got hurt twice. And
- 53:59Speaker 5: they me on the bike and on the armed cycle
- 54:02Speaker 5: and on the thing for like twelve weeks straight. Bro,
- 54:05Speaker 5: I'll say you never again. I'm not going that ship
- 54:08Speaker 5: ever again.
- 54:08Speaker 6: Because Bro used to talk about you, like used to
- 54:11Speaker 6: be on that ship. Hell know he came here for
- 54:16Speaker 6: the Big three ship. Boy, he should see by day. Bro,
- 54:20Speaker 6: he was strong. You were strong as hell and lone.
- 54:22Speaker 6: I used to be like because when I first met you,
- 54:24Speaker 6: I'm thinking of Mike.
- 54:25Speaker 3: Baby. You know I've seen man Sacramento. I walked up
- 54:29Speaker 3: to him like, damn twenty I was.
- 54:32Speaker 5: I was too five.
- 54:34Speaker 3: You had an IG filter on Twitter on the TV.
- 54:37Speaker 5: What yeah, I know what they put on there. Bro.
- 54:44Speaker 3: I was ninety five, Bro, like two hundred and five.
- 54:47Speaker 5: I was. I was two five when I got to
- 54:49Speaker 5: New York.
- 54:50Speaker 3: Bro, all it might just be chesting.
- 54:52Speaker 1: Your chest was out to here, like I'm like this, dude,
- 54:55Speaker 1: I'm like, baby, man, you could guard all big dudes.
- 55:01Speaker 1: He would tell Joe take the point guard. He'd be
- 55:03Speaker 1: guard somebody six. They trying to post.
- 55:05Speaker 5: I'm like about the post hill they got outside weren't working.
- 55:13Speaker 3: He was so strong, Bro, I was like, man, he
- 55:15Speaker 3: is too strong.
- 55:16Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't remember you like that and sex and
- 55:18Speaker 4: when you start hitting hiding the way, said Mike, look.
- 55:21Speaker 5: Like they like I come in to practice, do one bench,
- 55:25Speaker 5: one pull down, one leg, running back and you're done.
- 55:29Speaker 3: That wasn't enough.
- 55:30Speaker 5: Don't know though, but you look.
- 55:34Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie, bro, and I ain't staring at
- 55:37Speaker 4: you like that. But you don't look as crazy as
- 55:39Speaker 4: what this nigga made you said, because I was played
- 55:43Speaker 4: because I wasn't he was. I was looking for that
- 55:45Speaker 4: thing on your neck.
- 55:50Speaker 3: I seen him.
- 55:52Speaker 1: I'm used to be like hooping years ago for a
- 55:57Speaker 1: long time. So when I said, God was like a wrestler.
- 56:01Speaker 1: But now you, like you said, you don't look crazy,
- 56:05Speaker 1: like you work out a lot.
- 56:07Speaker 3: Because I don't remember you liked that. On two K two, Bro, I.
- 56:11Speaker 5: Think that they keep putting me into two K shoes
- 56:13Speaker 5: and I wanted to fucking first joring to get two ks. Man,
- 56:17Speaker 5: I get pissed coming in two k's.
- 56:21Speaker 3: Man, you get there right, get that right, many got
- 56:25Speaker 3: the Trumphy rooms. Right. You know what I'm saying, You know,
- 56:27Speaker 3: the face put me or something. Man shout out to Marcus. Yeah,
- 56:30Speaker 3: for sure. We gotta ask, man, what's your favorite Jordans
- 56:35Speaker 3: of all time?
- 56:38Speaker 5: I probably have to go with the elevens.
- 56:39Speaker 4: Man.
- 56:41Speaker 5: I like the I think they're called captain gowns all
- 56:45Speaker 5: black ones.
- 56:46Speaker 3: Damn, you're probably the only person in the world that
- 56:48Speaker 3: like them. What you mean nobody surprised by the black ones?
- 56:52Speaker 5: Right? Yeah? Yeah, what you mean you don't like those?
- 56:55Speaker 3: They decent, but not a lot of people whiting the
- 56:57Speaker 3: black though.
- 56:58Speaker 5: Right now.
- 56:58Speaker 3: I like the concourse, they're not my face.
- 57:00Speaker 5: I don't.
- 57:00Speaker 3: I don't like elevens.
- 57:01Speaker 5: I like eleven man, it's my favorite.
- 57:04Speaker 3: He's a Columbia eleven. That white.
- 57:07Speaker 5: Was the elevens.
- 57:08Speaker 1: You had the cherry cherry elevens when we were in Atlanta,
- 57:13Speaker 1: so white with the red.
- 57:15Speaker 3: You had the red pat leather. They can't end up
- 57:19Speaker 3: coming out years later. They gave them you back then,
- 57:21Speaker 3: you know what I.
- 57:22Speaker 5: Told him, because somebody was like they had that. I
- 57:24Speaker 5: seen him a I'm like, those gotta be fake. I
- 57:27Speaker 5: never seen them. And the guys like ship. We had
- 57:30Speaker 5: them for you, we just never gave them to you.
- 57:31Speaker 4: They had them on nice kicks, That's what I'm saying.
- 57:34Speaker 5: But the Nike you guys like, we had them, we
- 57:36Speaker 5: just never gave them to him.
- 57:37Speaker 1: Like because uh, you had them in Atlanta, because I
- 57:41Speaker 1: remember when you h Zach when I was I was
- 57:44Speaker 1: writing the joint.
- 57:45Speaker 5: It was probably a different one, but they gave me.
- 57:48Speaker 5: They gave me a different one.
- 57:50Speaker 3: You had a white and red eleven.
- 57:51Speaker 5: I was like it was called something else. I know
- 57:53Speaker 5: exactly what one too. And I was like Joe had
- 57:57Speaker 5: by the weren't eleven? I was like, can I get them?
- 58:02Speaker 3: He was like, you have to ask, bib. I was like,
- 58:05Speaker 3: I'm wild, I ain't gonna ask for them.
- 58:06Speaker 5: So you could have took anything. Nah.
- 58:08Speaker 3: I know when you gave me all the white ones, bro,
- 58:10Speaker 3: I said, I looked at you. I was like you sure.
- 58:13Speaker 3: He was like, yeah, man, go ahead, Merry Christmas. I'm
- 58:16Speaker 3: like this ship the home.
- 58:19Speaker 1: And you know, he was what twelve and a half
- 58:21Speaker 1: and I was at twelve, So I'm like, shit, it's cool,
- 58:23Speaker 1: fucking little.
- 58:24Speaker 3: Big ain't tripping happened to them? Elevens? My little brother man,
- 58:29Speaker 3: he won him to the club and got hennessy all over.
- 58:32Speaker 3: I still got him.
- 58:33Speaker 5: Damn you let him take him?
- 58:35Speaker 4: Nah, I didn't know.
- 58:36Speaker 1: So he went to my closet at my house and
- 58:39Speaker 1: he rocked him. He ain't know I was going out
- 58:41Speaker 1: that night put him on. I seen him in the club.
- 58:43Speaker 1: He kept hiding from you.
- 58:44Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm here, Bro, like, come up here. He's like, no,
- 58:46Speaker 3: I'm stay down here. What the hell you doing? So
- 58:49Speaker 3: I go up to him. I look down. I was like, man,
- 58:52Speaker 3: what the fuck?
- 58:53Speaker 1: He brung them back upstairs. He was like, I don't
- 58:55Speaker 1: know what happened, and it's n see brown everything. I
- 58:59Speaker 1: was like, man, man, these ain't coming out. Bro, these
- 59:03Speaker 1: don't come out.
- 59:03Speaker 3: He like, I don't know.
- 59:05Speaker 4: He just.
- 59:08Speaker 3: They still still got them.
- 59:09Speaker 5: What you got brothers from that boy?
- 59:18Speaker 1: Lots to me, bro, mens a lot to me, Like
- 59:21Speaker 1: it's crazy. You remember what we talked about. You bomb
- 59:23Speaker 1: me That watch? Bid was the best. He bought me
- 59:26Speaker 1: a watch. I was in Beverly Hills. We was in
- 59:29Speaker 1: Beverly Hills, whatever, and I was looking at this watch
- 59:31Speaker 1: at the hotel and I'm like looking at it and
- 59:34Speaker 1: I'm amazed, Like, look at the diamonds dropping in. He like,
- 59:37Speaker 1: when you like that watch? I'm like yeah, Like thirty
- 59:39Speaker 1: minutes go by. He called me like where you at rook.
- 59:42Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I'm here here about to leave. He's like, now,
- 59:46Speaker 1: come to my room real quick.
- 59:47Speaker 3: Come to his room. He opened a box like here
- 59:49Speaker 3: you go. It was me and jord Crawford gave me
- 59:51Speaker 3: one Jordan one. I'm like, what the fuck?
- 59:54Speaker 5: Yeah, I forgot that.
- 59:55Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
- 59:55Speaker 3: I threw my watch on so quick and my brother
- 59:58Speaker 3: still got that watch. You still got that. I'm like, damn,
- 1:00:03Speaker 3: that ship was crazy. I'm like, he got a lot
- 1:00:05Speaker 3: of money.
- 1:00:06Speaker 5: You gotta take care of you. The young guys man,
- 1:00:09Speaker 5: no matter what. When I was there once a Vancouver,
- 1:00:12Speaker 5: our older guys weren't really yeah. I mean they were
- 1:00:15Speaker 5: trying to hold on. But I mean I never had
- 1:00:18Speaker 5: that what I'm saying. So I try to make everywhere
- 1:00:20Speaker 5: I went like here ship and make sure you come
- 1:00:22Speaker 5: whenever you with me. You ain't got paid for nothing.
- 1:00:24Speaker 3: I appreciate that, bro, I appreciate that. I was a
- 1:00:27Speaker 3: cheesecake factory king every city. I was like, yeah, I know,
- 1:00:34Speaker 3: I'm going cheese hae factory today.
- 1:00:35Speaker 4: I'm like I still go cheesecake to see girls refuse
- 1:00:38Speaker 4: that as a first day Now, it's just insane.
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: Disrespect because that was you got heat. I remember was
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: when we got here to Phoenix. Uh, the cheesecake factory
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: was like it was a Califori pizza kitchen, a cheesecae
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: across from the hotel.
- 1:00:51Speaker 3: And I looked at you and got off the bus.
- 1:00:53Speaker 3: I'm like, we're going to He's like, hell no, I'm going.
- 1:00:59Speaker 5: Right on.
- 1:01:00Speaker 3: He was like, nah, I'm going home today.
- 1:01:02Speaker 5: I was like parked at the hotel to get that.
- 1:01:05Speaker 5: I'm gone.
- 1:01:06Speaker 3: I was like, I gotta pay for this. It was
- 1:01:09Speaker 3: funny because what was you eating when you went with me?
- 1:01:12Speaker 1: I literally every city over a bit so that only
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: time I didn't I just went over there by myself,
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: like went to the cheesecake factory. But every city he
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: took me, it didn't matter what city was in. I
- 1:01:21Speaker 1: remember we went to Miami. He took me to eat.
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: I got a chance with me, Fat Joe, Chris Brown,
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: all these dudes. I'm like, damn, he really famous.
- 1:01:28Speaker 3: As Hill, Like you know FA you know Fat Joe.
- 1:01:31Speaker 5: He's like, yeah, my brother.
- 1:01:32Speaker 4: They all tell you.
- 1:01:34Speaker 3: I'm like team Dom I'm looking at him like.
- 1:01:36Speaker 5: That's what that means.
- 1:01:38Speaker 1: Yeah, he the truth out here. I'm like he took
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: me to prole one twelve. He always I was always
- 1:01:45Speaker 1: a bit man.
- 1:01:46Speaker 2: Before we get out of here, we got somebody's snigger.
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: Show you fat Joe man, who collection was crazy at
- 1:01:50Speaker 2: your height.
- 1:01:52Speaker 5: I think I have more shoes. They probably got more
- 1:01:57Speaker 5: like more heat heat. I got a lot of shoes, man,
- 1:02:00Speaker 5: just I've been giving so many away. After years, it
- 1:02:02Speaker 5: kind of it kind of went down a little bit.
- 1:02:04Speaker 5: But I've been collecting the shoes for twenty years. So
- 1:02:07Speaker 5: I used to do like when out there, give me
- 1:02:08Speaker 5: the shoes, I'll be like they sen me, they send
- 1:02:11Speaker 5: me wanted everything, and I was just like, send me
- 1:02:13Speaker 5: ten period of leaves. They sent a box ten pair
- 1:02:16Speaker 5: of those. I just put them away. So I always
- 1:02:18Speaker 5: had like replicas of shoes. I like, you know what
- 1:02:21Speaker 5: I'm saying. So that's putting made a closet garage out
- 1:02:25Speaker 5: of it.
- 1:02:26Speaker 3: Yeah, man, historic even like his cars though, like I
- 1:02:31Speaker 3: always wanted.
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: I always tell everybody about the garage. Him and Joe
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: and Smooth Bro. It was like watching MTV Cribs when
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: you gotta.
- 1:02:41Speaker 5: Get yourself a nice car.
- 1:02:43Speaker 2: Bro.
- 1:02:44Speaker 5: Yeah, I ain't never had a car till like, I mean,
- 1:02:46Speaker 5: I had a car when I got the cars, man,
- 1:02:48Speaker 5: you first time I did was buying me a nice,
- 1:02:51Speaker 5: a nice Rose Bush.
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Bron, I used to come out there
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: and I had I had a seven forty five, seven
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: fifty and they popcorn my joint. I'll never forget, so
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: the whole season. This is why they popcorn, I'm gonna
- 1:03:07Speaker 1: tell you. So they used to make me buy donuts
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: in the morning. Oh ship, So they used to make
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: me buy donuts.
- 1:03:14Speaker 5: I always forget. Come on, man, just I'll get them next.
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: So I used to go get them some time. They
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: would never eat them. So I'm like, man, I ain't
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: eating them and not eating them. So I just started
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: putting the box in my locker. Shit it up there,
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: sit up there. Put it back out every morning, put
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: it back out every morning. It was finally the night
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: I think everybody the team went out or whatever. We
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: go out and smooth. You know, it had to be smooth.
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: He come in, he want a donut. This random day,
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: I put the box out. The donuts are green.
- 1:03:43Speaker 5: Damn.
- 1:03:43Speaker 3: They molded everything.
- 1:03:45Speaker 5: Even what the fuck.
- 1:03:50Speaker 3: I'm like shy, like, man, look, this.
- 1:03:54Speaker 5: Is what you're doing with our money. Where you give
- 1:03:56Speaker 5: me the money and ship what.
- 1:03:57Speaker 3: You doing was like ship.
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: Next thing you know, I opened my every time I
- 1:04:02Speaker 1: go to practice, my key is like this placed or
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: something like out or for my dog, like they about
- 1:04:07Speaker 1: to popcorn your car, damn shout to al. So half
- 1:04:13Speaker 1: the season I'm putting my key in my tight like
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: I wasn't playing in practice.
- 1:04:18Speaker 3: After a while we just stopped practicing. Wood didn't practice
- 1:04:21Speaker 3: no more.
- 1:04:21Speaker 5: So I'll be out.
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: I told them, like, I'll be playing Wood one on
- 1:04:23Speaker 1: one right, So I'm putting the key in my tight
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: of my other key in my tights the whole time.
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: Finally get to play the last game of season. I
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: forgot we play. I'm having I had a great game.
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: I had twenty six and fifteen. I'm all hype.
- 1:04:37Speaker 3: They ruled me on you.
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: We get in the locker room, everybody usually Shire, they nobody.
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: Everybody already dressed. I'm getting out the shore. They're like, yeah,
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: all right, but we're going out tonight. We're gonna see you.
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: They rushing out. I come up the steps in the linny.
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: You had to walk up these steps to get to
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: your cars. I walk up to the steps. I open
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: the door. Everybody got flashlights on. Smooth wife. Everybody don't
- 1:05:00Speaker 1: know what the fun going on.
- 1:05:01Speaker 3: I walked to my car.
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: At this time, I was dating this lady named Ashley,
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: and she like about to cry. She like, I opened
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: the door, popcorn come flying out. I first looked, what
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: the fuck.
- 1:05:13Speaker 3: I'm looking at? Smooth, I'm a flag your turn? He
- 1:05:16Speaker 3: like laughing and ship Bien like like you know, He like, ho,
- 1:05:25Speaker 3: be get this car, like see you bore. I was like,
- 1:05:31Speaker 3: and then I'm like, man, who did that ship? Tyler
- 1:05:32Speaker 3: like all right, man, they paid me five thousand dollars
- 1:05:36Speaker 3: to do the ship man. I was like, who did?
- 1:05:38Speaker 3: He was like it was all of them. They all
- 1:05:40Speaker 3: came together, community.
- 1:05:43Speaker 4: Came together.
- 1:05:44Speaker 1: He was like, you see these big He wouldn't got
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: the popcorn. Everything showed me the bag. I'm like, we're
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: my iPad. That's when the iPad firstumber my iPad at
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: He was like, oh, yeah, send your trump. I opened
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: the trunk. It's full of popcorn. I'm like, oh, they
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: ain't playing damn was they didn't sucked up, but it
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: was my dog. I went to the club with that popcorn.
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: That's crazy. This give you something to get a detail?
- 1:06:10Speaker 1: Five mins to get a detail. I ain't get a detail.
- 1:06:13Speaker 1: My brother said, ship, excite that, I'll do this ship.
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: Oh man, it's been crazy. Big dogs, Mike Biby, we
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: appreciate you sliding on this man. We were waiting for
- 1:06:26Speaker 1: this episode. Man, you big finally got on the show.
- 1:06:28Speaker 6: Man.
- 1:06:29Speaker 3: I'm so happy.
- 1:06:29Speaker 5: I appreciate y'all having me on. Man, I just watch
- 1:06:32Speaker 5: all the time. Man, that some crazy motherfucker show.
- 1:06:35Speaker 3: Before we got out of here be here sell the
- 1:06:36Speaker 3: people that can grasp some march at.
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- 1:06:40Speaker 4: Here Club five twenty
- 1:06:43Speaker 2: The volume