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Cubs news and notes: Ben Brown steps up, Liam Hendriks’ comeback and more · North Side Territory: A Chicago Cubs Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome into Northside Territory. Foul Territory Networks. Cubs podcast. I
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  Speaker 1: forgot what I was doing there. I'm I'm Sharma with my.
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  Speaker 2: Illinois Hoops Illinois Hoops podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I wasn't sure what we were talking about. Patrick.
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  Speaker 1: The Cubs salvaged a game out in Atlanta. They were
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  Speaker 1: struggling a little bit for a while, got shut down
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  Speaker 1: by some good pitching. Uh just scuffled in general on offense.
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  Speaker 1: But I think, you know, we we've talked about this
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  Speaker 1: offense comes and goes. The pitching showday, Minaga remains brilliant.
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  Speaker 1: Ben Brown. I mean, I there's there's watching him, there's
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  Speaker 1: looking at the numbers, there's the stuff. It seems like
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  Speaker 1: it's all coming together. I know it was only four
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  Speaker 1: we still need the full test of turnover a lineup
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  Speaker 1: three times, but right now his return to the rotation
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  Speaker 1: is just I mean, it's going so well, and it's
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  Speaker 1: coming at a time where the Cubs desperately need someone
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  Speaker 1: to step up in the rotation. Like I said, Showeda's
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  Speaker 1: been there all season. But this is a guy that
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  Speaker 1: you know, we've talked about for a couple of years now,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I believe if I'm remembering correctly, he started
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  Speaker 1: in the rotation last year and it didn't go so
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  Speaker 1: well and he got moved out, and he's been a
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  Speaker 1: huge piece of the bullpen. I mean, I was a
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  Speaker 1: little cautious about this, like, ed, do you want to
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  Speaker 1: move a guy that's so important to the bullpen? Right now?
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  Speaker 1: It's working out so well that I don't think you
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  Speaker 1: can really question it.
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  Speaker 2: And understandably skeptical and this not everyone gets this many chances.
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  Speaker 2: And I think Ben Brown was kind of the classic
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  Speaker 2: spring training story because he's a really friendly dude, and
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  Speaker 2: he's extremely articulate, and he looks the part, and he
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  Speaker 2: does have a lot of backers in the organization, so
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  Speaker 2: you knew that they would kind of give him some runway.
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  Speaker 2: He just didn't know exactly what form or shape it
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  Speaker 2: would take. And you know, everyone's optimistic in Arizona. You
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  Speaker 2: know it's sunny. It was certainly hot this year, but
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  Speaker 2: it's usually you know, perfect perfect weather, perfect setting, working
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  Speaker 2: on stuff. Had a great offseason, but to his credit,
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  Speaker 2: he really applied everything and he would say that it
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  Speaker 2: took all of these experiences to get him to this
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  Speaker 2: point where, yeah, I mean he's awesome, and I think
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  Speaker 2: because he's had these stops and starts, we can't get
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  Speaker 2: too far ahead of ourselves. But this is also like
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  Speaker 2: what great seasons take of guys doing sort of unexpected
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  Speaker 2: things or overperforming, and he has certainly been a stabilizing
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  Speaker 2: force that they needed.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, I want to see him turn over
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  Speaker 1: a lineup one more time, go get through the lineup
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  Speaker 1: a third time. That's not because he hasn't been doing
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  Speaker 1: well enough to do that. It's because you know, he
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  Speaker 1: isn't built up yet to do that. My guess is
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  Speaker 1: we're pretty close to seeing him do that as assuming
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  Speaker 1: he sticks in the rotation. But right now there's some
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  Speaker 1: things that look I don't know what came first. Did
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  Speaker 1: the confidence come first, or did the did the development
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  Speaker 1: of the other two pitches come and then that led
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  Speaker 1: to confidence? Probably it's kind of like it came together.
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  Speaker 1: He needed to get his head on straight and really
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  Speaker 1: like shake off any bad moments. There have been times
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  Speaker 1: where I'm like, huh, there's a walk and then a
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  Speaker 1: double is he going to fall apart? And he hasn't
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  Speaker 1: done that yet. We have not seen that the sinker
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  Speaker 1: is being used. I want to say, like twenty percent
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  Speaker 1: of the time, when last year his third pitch was
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  Speaker 1: used was a change up and was used less than
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  Speaker 1: five percent of the time. So he's using the change
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  Speaker 1: up more. It's over six percent now, and he's using
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  Speaker 1: the sinker twenty one point three percent, and then the
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  Speaker 1: four seam in the knuckler obviously he's go to knuckle
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  Speaker 1: curve is Obviously he's go to his go to pitches
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  Speaker 1: Era one point six whip at point eighty six. Like,
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  Speaker 1: the strikeout rate is high, the walk rate is low.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the biggest thing for me. He's missing barrels like
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  Speaker 1: he's not like he always struck guys out in he
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  Speaker 1: limited walks. What would happen is second or third time
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  Speaker 1: two through they were just sat on a pitch and
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  Speaker 1: then they hammered it. Now they can't do that anymore,
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  Speaker 1: and the hard contact is way down and that's leading
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  Speaker 1: to the confidence being way high. The results are awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Like you said, he's always had like supporters in the ORG,
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  Speaker 1: there's always been like this, Oh, if he can just
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  Speaker 1: figure it out, like he's got this nasty breaking ball.
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  Speaker 1: His velocity is actually up right now. That could be
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  Speaker 1: because he's been coming out of the bullpen, so we'll
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  Speaker 1: see how it is as he goes when they push
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  Speaker 1: him to six innings and whatnot. But this is this
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  Speaker 1: is a pretty big development for this year, and it
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  Speaker 1: feels like it's a potentially big development for the future
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  Speaker 1: of the team. We've talked about this a lot a
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  Speaker 1: lot of guys coming off of the books as far
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  Speaker 1: as starting rotation pieces. Matthew Boyd showed him Monaga Jamison
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  Speaker 1: ty Own those are right now the guy like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: two of those guys are holding things down and showed
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  Speaker 1: Jameson Tyon if you don't have them, like what where
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  Speaker 1: does this rotation? What does this rotation look like right now? Right?
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  Speaker 1: So huge pieces are are likely hitting agency and potentially leaving.
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  Speaker 1: This is a big development, especially with Jackson Wiggins hurt
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  Speaker 1: and you just don't know what his future is. You'd
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  Speaker 1: have loved to see him kind of take steps in
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  Speaker 1: the minors. That's not happening right now, so you need
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  Speaker 1: another piece of the and Kate Horton's hurt, so like
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  Speaker 1: there's no like future to hold on to when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to this rotation. So Ben Brown developing is just
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  Speaker 1: such a huge turn of events and kudos to him
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  Speaker 1: for really diving into what he needed to do in
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  Speaker 1: the off season and and he he came with a
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  Speaker 1: plan and he executed that plan, and it got some
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  Speaker 1: help from I believe Clay Holmes, and they they work together.
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  Speaker 1: And he doesn't have the same sinker. It doesn't sound like,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, I think how he uses it mentality
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  Speaker 1: that a lot of that stuff Clay Holmes helped with,
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  Speaker 1: and he's taking off. I mean, I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: we're watching here as far as how good he can be,
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  Speaker 1: but we know he has the potential to be great.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny you talk about the twenty twenty seven rotation
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  Speaker 2: like I hadn't even thought that far ahead with Ben Brown,
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  Speaker 2: just because it has been the stops and starts that
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  Speaker 2: we've talked about here, but certainly has all the makings
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  Speaker 2: of a very nice major league starting pitcher. At the
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  Speaker 2: same time, there are people as recently as spring training,
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  Speaker 2: if not this latest round of roster delberations of hey,
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  Speaker 2: maybe his stuff just plays as a really valuable high
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  Speaker 2: leverage reliever. We'll see. I mean, at the rate Coubs
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  Speaker 2: pictures have been getting injured, I think that's another sort
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  Speaker 2: of like take what you can get right now. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, we just ran a whole mailbag on the
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  Speaker 2: athletic about what's with all these pitching injuries. In the
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  Speaker 2: same breath, we have to credit the Cubs for a
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  Speaker 2: lot of good a lot of resourcefulness on the pitching front,
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  Speaker 2: that they've been able to solve problems in real time
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  Speaker 2: and stick with certain guys such as Ben Brown.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, you got to give him some credit there.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think this should drastically change trade deadline plans,
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  Speaker 1: but it does make it feel a little less like desperate.
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  Speaker 1: Just like, like, especially if before the deadline you see
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  Speaker 1: what Boyd and even Steel can do, I think you
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  Speaker 1: just feel less like, oh God, we have to get
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  Speaker 1: a guy, and it has to be impactful, Like it
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  Speaker 1: has to be hugely impactful. It can't just be a
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  Speaker 1: guy that eats innings. It has to be a guy
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  Speaker 1: that dominates. I mean, you still want them to go
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  Speaker 1: out and get the best players available, right, just go
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  Speaker 1: out and be aggressive and help the team, you know,
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  Speaker 1: get better. But it doesn't feel Ben Brown emergents could
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  Speaker 1: kind of lighten things and not make it feels as crazy.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Let's take a quick break and we'll come
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  Speaker 1: back and talk about how they continue to like patch
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  Speaker 1: things together in a potential or in an actual addition
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  Speaker 1: that could potentially help. All Right, guys, I if you're
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right.
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  Speaker 1: The Cubs did make an addition, and it's you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's a bigger name. We'll see what sort of impact
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  Speaker 1: it is. But Liam Hendricks has been added to a
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  Speaker 1: minor league deal. Liam Hendricks obviously was one of the
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  Speaker 1: best closers in the game about five years ago. It
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  Speaker 1: has been a little while since he's been a dominant
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  Speaker 1: force out of the bullpen. But you know, this is
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  Speaker 1: a good dude. It sounds like hard worker, and he
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  Speaker 1: came to the Cubs because you felt there was not
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  Speaker 1: only an opportunity to get to the big leagues, but
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  Speaker 1: he kind of liked their plan and thought this was
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  Speaker 1: a place that could get the most out of him
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  Speaker 1: and get him to where he wants to be or
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  Speaker 1: potentially could be.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is intrinsically a long shot. I
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  Speaker 2: mean Hendricks didn't make a Minnesota Twins bullpen that it's
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  Speaker 2: not in great shape, and you know his VLLO wasn't
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  Speaker 2: blowing anyone away in spring trading, according to our the
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  Speaker 2: information we received. But at the same time, like you
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  Speaker 2: got to take chances. I think the Jed Hoyer just
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  Speaker 2: keep taking shots on goal approach and maybe a couple
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  Speaker 2: of them will go in. Before the Hendrick signing, I
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  Speaker 2: was talking a Cups first about this, and it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of like, you know, their their attitude is like you
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  Speaker 2: sign ten to fifteen guys and if one or two
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  Speaker 2: of them hit, you look like geniuses and no one
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  Speaker 2: remembers the other guys that didn't work out. But if
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  Speaker 2: you don't like everyone you know stares at the bullpen
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  Speaker 2: and points the finger when things don't go well late
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  Speaker 2: in games. And so you know, I'm dating myself here,
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  Speaker 2: but you remember this of you know, the Cubs have
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  Speaker 2: tried this over the years. I think, I mean Joe
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  Speaker 2: Nathan was on the twenty sixteen Cubs, the former Jeez,
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  Speaker 2: former Minnesota Twins closer, but then in twenty fifteen, I
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  Speaker 2: mean they just kept churning and found that really a
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  Speaker 2: really super random bullpen because I'm just the guys I
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  Speaker 2: found him. I mean, what was it like, Clayton Richard
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  Speaker 2: was acquired like a dollar, Trevor k. Hill, Fernando Rodney
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  Speaker 2: that was a later one. There's probably you know, another
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  Speaker 2: one or two there, but it's it would not be unprecedented,
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  Speaker 2: and I think you have to take chances on a
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  Speaker 2: guy who was like that good. But you would also
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  Speaker 2: took Liam Hendricks a long time to become like Liam
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  Speaker 2: Hendricks also closer if you look at his Baseball Reference page,
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  Speaker 2: mehan he was briefly a cub for about ten days
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  Speaker 2: in December twenty thirteen.
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  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, uh, and it took him a while to
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  Speaker 1: break out the lad he jumped. It is not you
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  Speaker 1: know we heard it wasn't great this spring he was
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  Speaker 1: around ninety three. I think their goal is to be
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  Speaker 1: very patient with them. They're they're not going to rush him.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to do right by Liam. They may have
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  Speaker 1: needs at the highest level, but they're not They're they're
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  Speaker 1: going to see what they can do with them. If
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  Speaker 1: they can get them to ninety five plus, that that
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  Speaker 1: would be a win, I think, and maybe he'll get
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  Speaker 1: a shot. I don't know if that even like, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure if that's enough. I was looking at his
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  Speaker 1: numbers in the past, like when he's at his best,
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  Speaker 1: he was averaging ninety seven, like he's been averaging ninety
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  Speaker 1: five in recent years. He could barely stay healthy though
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  Speaker 1: he's got like seventeen He's got like seventeen eighteen innings
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  Speaker 1: over the past three seasons. I want to say, because
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  Speaker 1: he I think that's right. So he's you know, he's
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  Speaker 1: just it's a it's a wildcard, but it's a big name.
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  Speaker 1: It's a guy who has had a huge impact these things.
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  Speaker 1: Like you said, if one in ten, two in ten
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  Speaker 1: work you you look smart and it and it feels
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  Speaker 1: good and you're doing something right because these you got
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  Speaker 1: to take a lot of shots in the bullpen, and
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  Speaker 1: especially when the injuries are piling up. You know who
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  Speaker 1: knows when Hunter Harvey, if he if and when he
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  Speaker 1: will help this team. Philm Ayton is kind of like
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  Speaker 1: you had a rough one on Wednesday, you had a
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  Speaker 1: good one on Thursday. Palencia looked dominant. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: Jacob Webb looks a lot better than whatever was going
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  Speaker 1: on at the beginning of the season. It's almost like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we don't have a full season worth yet,
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  Speaker 1: but it's reminding me of the way Caleb Thielbar started
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  Speaker 1: last year and looked like, Wow, this guy is cooked.
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  Speaker 1: And then and then he was dominant and Jacob Webb
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  Speaker 1: were like, what is this is not looking good? And
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  Speaker 1: then he's been great since then. We'll see how long
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  Speaker 1: it lasts. But they they've they've put it together. They
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  Speaker 1: they have enough. You shouldn't say they have enough. They've
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  Speaker 1: been getting through games and winning games in the bullpen.
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  Speaker 1: You're not like coming away after every series and saying like,
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  Speaker 1: oh no, how do they get through a game with
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  Speaker 1: this bullpen? Somehow? They've put it together. You got to
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  Speaker 1: keep adding, though, because who knows when the next blow
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  Speaker 1: up will be or when the next injury will pop up.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break Patrick and then
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  Speaker 2: don't know, you're are you closer to the highway than
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: the home plate? Like? It just like extreme extreme interest
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: in this series or renewed interest, I should say. I
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: think it has certainly lost some of its novelty. I
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: think the game has just become more corporate, so I
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: think some of the personalities have faded away. Ozzie is
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: still great on the pre and post game shows, and
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: I do think this White Sox team has sort of
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: you made people pay attention and kind of re engaged
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: their fan base and a really interesting way. I was
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: just kind of looking at their notes, and I think
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: they have something like the maybe the fourth best record
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: in the American League. Right now are tied for the
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: fourth best record in the American Langue, which is kind
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: of crazy. There was game above five hundred, but you know,
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: they don't play in a very good division. We've seen
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: it happen with young players before, like once it kind
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: of gets some confidence and get used to the grind
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: of a major league season. I think questions are always
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: going to be about, you know, the pitching, you know,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: if they'll have enough, and sort of how they look
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: at the trade deadline and like whether or not they
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: can you know, stay relevant, and if they'll get reinforcements,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: if they'll do kind of a you know, the buy
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: sell thing, or if or if the bottom just falls
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: out eventually because the season is so long and this
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: is not like a group that has that muscle memory,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: but it should be you know, a good atmosphere and
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: curious to see how the White Sox present this weekend.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, beyond seeing if the Cubs bats can kind of
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: get going again, there are two I'm I'm looking I'm
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: going to be watching this weekend. First, one important, really
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: important to the Cubs is Edward Cabrera, Like I felt
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: like he has been on shaky ground in his starts,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: but he's been getting through them. He's been he's been
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: limiting the damage, limiting runs. The last start wasn't so great,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: whereas he can his stuff kind of tick up at
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: least start to tick up, Like it just doesn't look
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: as dominant stuff wise as it has in the past.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: You want to kind of see him like start finding
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: his rhythm. The other thing is, I'm just curious about
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Davis Martin. He's been awesome for the White Sox, whether
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: the Cubs offense is clicking or not. I'm just like,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: can this guy continue? Is this guy for real? I
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: don't know, but like kind of coming. I mean, I
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: knew who he was, but it still feels like it's
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: coming out of nowhere that he's this good. So we'll see.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: This is good. I do believe, like when you talked
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: about the prices to get in, it could be kind
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: of fun this weekend. Maybe maybe there'll be a little
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: bit more drama and excitement on the South Side, but
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: the Cubs certainly need to get some wins, you know,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: before heading back home and where they have one fifteen straight,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: so you know, get some wins. On the south Side,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: get back home, and see if you can continue to
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: stay hot when Milwaukee comes to town. All right, that's
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: it for this episode. Thanks so much for listening to
• 23:24
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• 23:28
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• 23:31
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• 23:34
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