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Andrew Hawkins · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 1: This episode of Busting with the Boys. The Boys is
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  Speaker 1: presented by Barstool Sports.
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  Speaker 2: I don't see one white jersey guy in the in
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  Speaker 2: the background there, what's that about?
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  Speaker 1: Not in the visual?
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  Speaker 3: Not in the visual, Russell Wilson.
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  Speaker 4: Not on the wall? Actually crazy?
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  Speaker 3: Wow, what's the browns on? What's the browns one at
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  Speaker 3: the top?
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  Speaker 4: That's uh Odell? Oh yep, not like upstairs.
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  Speaker 2: That counts that tucked away. He got cut by the Bengals,
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  Speaker 2: and you said, all right, I'm just gonna put this
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  Speaker 2: away from now.
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  Speaker 4: M I don't know if Joe's going to be joining us.
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  Speaker 4: Hold on.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, we were trying to get Joe on here.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I was trying to.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, Taylor, I saw him. I was trying to find
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  Speaker 5: your NFL network deal. But I stumbled upon the one
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  Speaker 5: you did with Joe and Andrew looks like he's in
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  Speaker 5: the same exact spot where he was interviewing you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple of days ago.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we did a Bust with the Boys that out
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  Speaker 4: you last week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I had a little segment deal.
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you.
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  Speaker 1: I was.
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  Speaker 2: I got off the phone, all right, I got this
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  Speaker 2: that interview, and I called Will and I told him.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, Hey, I was just blowing you out there.
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  Speaker 2: I was giving you love talking about how every team
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  Speaker 2: needs a hard working core for special teams.
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  Speaker 3: White guy.
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  Speaker 2: Really, seriously, they did that, They didn't new Ship. I
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  Speaker 2: was the one doing it, man, I was out there
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  Speaker 2: singing your praises. You think Joe Thomas and Hawk knows
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  Speaker 2: who you are?
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  Speaker 5: Come on, baby, I often Hey, I've been on the
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  Speaker 5: phone with Hawk many of times about the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, Taylor, really, when.
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  Speaker 5: I was first starting, I was like, hey, can I
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  Speaker 5: you mind if I call you and like pick your
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  Speaker 5: brain about stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, right now, you're un busting with the boys. Now,
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  Speaker 2: this is how we do our podcast, and it's just go.
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  Speaker 4: I love it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a go go mentality. Man, it's a go
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  Speaker 2: go mentality.
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  Speaker 1: He's joking on.
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  Speaker 4: No, he's not. Oh wow, okay, it was it was
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  Speaker 4: my fault.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna resituate myself.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna stay a picture of all those send
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  Speaker 2: that to Joe and say, Yo, that's fucking crazy.
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  Speaker 4: He's gonna be like, Hawk never hit me, and he's
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  Speaker 4: gonna be right because the message that I sent to
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  Speaker 4: him never.
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  Speaker 1: Sent So, Yo, are you at your house right now.
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  Speaker 4: I'm at my house. I'm not garage.
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  Speaker 3: You built that.
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  Speaker 4: I did as soon as quarantine hit. No way, those
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  Speaker 4: are my son's jerseys. That's why there's no white guys.
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  Speaker 1: Oh your son's racist, Yeah, my son. This isn't me,
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  Speaker 1: this is my son.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just I'm just the man that taught him
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  Speaker 2: all his values and core values and morals.
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  Speaker 3: But this is my son. Don't worry, he's the bad egg.
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  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Bro.
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  Speaker 2: If you went into my closet right now with my jerseys,
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  Speaker 2: you would it would be a diverse portfolio.
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  Speaker 3: It would be a very diverse portfolio.
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  Speaker 4: All right. First off, I have Andy Dalton upstairs, but
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  Speaker 4: these are all so Andy Dalton is I mean, come on,
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  Speaker 4: that's like I count at least three white guys, right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't know where you're going with that,
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  Speaker 1: but once you said, I.
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  Speaker 3: Was like, oh, yeah, he's kind of right.
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  Speaker 4: The rest of them are aj is this boy that's
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  Speaker 4: actually Taylor Gabriel. It's not Calvin Ridley. So they sent
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  Speaker 4: those to him, and you know that he's into MVPs
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  Speaker 4: and blond hair. Odell. Come on, makes a bunch of
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  Speaker 4: sense as a receiver.
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  Speaker 2: When you look at a guy like Odell, who when
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  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously he was picked one pick after me,
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  Speaker 2: he was picked to the Giants.
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  Speaker 3: Absolute stud for a little bit, yeah doubt.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that for his first season, made the most
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  Speaker 2: incredible catch of all time, and then at the turmoil,
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  Speaker 2: like I don't know the whole story. I'm a big
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  Speaker 2: fan of Odell actually, so I'm just kind of like
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  Speaker 2: weeding through the weeds right now, trying to figure out
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  Speaker 2: where I'm going with this, because at one point, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: to get traded a franchise with that much talent that
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  Speaker 2: Odell has, there's gotta be some frustration on both sides.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think happened there with those guys?
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  Speaker 4: You know, I don't know, man, it doesn't It doesn't
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  Speaker 4: really make sense to me. Odell is a beast, and
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  Speaker 4: even as a receiver, like even when I was playing,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we play the Giants, and you know, when
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  Speaker 4: you're an offense, you really don't care what's going on
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  Speaker 4: in the field. You're trying to get your win. You're
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  Speaker 4: trying to like figure out the next thing and get
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  Speaker 4: your rest, you know whatever. Right when we play the Giants,
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  Speaker 4: he was one of like three players that I would
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  Speaker 4: stand up to go on the sideline to watch because
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, this kid is just different and he
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  Speaker 4: is so that like as much as that catch has
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  Speaker 4: catapult him in the superstar them, that's not a lucky catch.
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  Speaker 4: There is such a small percentage of receivers that I
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  Speaker 4: don't care how many chances you give him can make
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  Speaker 4: that catch and it wasn't luck. And like when you
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  Speaker 4: watch him, he just has so many attributes to him.
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  Speaker 4: The only thing that's kind of stood in this way
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  Speaker 4: is some of the situation stuff. You know, he's a
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  Speaker 4: passionate dude, but even the stuff you hear that the
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  Speaker 4: people talk about him. I mean, it's typically like stuff
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  Speaker 4: that we're not even gonna remember in ten years, five years,
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  Speaker 4: three years, two years, like the net stuff on the sideline,
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  Speaker 4: Like teammates don't say he was a bad teammate. And
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  Speaker 4: if they don't say that for me, I really just
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  Speaker 4: don't give it. Damn.
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  Speaker 2: It shouldn't matter, Yeah, exactly, Like if you don't like
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  Speaker 2: the person but they're giving you results. If I'm a
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  Speaker 2: business owner and I don't like the person giving me results,
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  Speaker 2: but other people around aren't affected by him, negatively, that
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  Speaker 2: have to work on a day day basis, play on Sundays.
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  Speaker 3: Where where's the issue there?
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  Speaker 2: Do you think you think the Giants made a mistake
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  Speaker 2: by getting rid of them?
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  Speaker 5: Ah?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I mean, it depends on what they're doing, though,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I was a part of
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  Speaker 4: a Browns team that got rid of all their They're
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  Speaker 4: even you know, I wouldn't call us good by any
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  Speaker 4: stretch of the imagination. But are they're decent players to
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  Speaker 4: put themselves in draft position? You know? So? I mean
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  Speaker 4: if that's the Giants for trying to do, you know,
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  Speaker 4: but if they're looking for talent, they're not gonna They're
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  Speaker 4: not gonna find another receiver like Odell Beckham. That's not
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  Speaker 4: what's gonna happen if that was their goal.
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  Speaker 5: No, No, he's a complete freak.
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  Speaker 3: Him.
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  Speaker 2: Him and Jarvis du they're they're both different, but they're
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  Speaker 2: both so competitive.
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  Speaker 3: They do such a great job.
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  Speaker 2: There's no way in hell that the Browns should not
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  Speaker 2: be as talented as they are.
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  Speaker 4: I agree.
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  Speaker 1: I agree that, like, go ahead, finish.
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  Speaker 4: I was gonna say, like, I agree, I think it
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  Speaker 4: just takes time, man. I mean, I feel like they're
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  Speaker 4: trying to learn each other as you guys know. Man,
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  Speaker 4: you've been a part of teams that have done really
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  Speaker 4: well that people thought on like the surface shouldn't have
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  Speaker 4: been good. Hey hey drop it?
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  Speaker 3: Can I say hi?
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  Speaker 2: Hey hey, she walked over, but that she walked over
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  Speaker 2: and me, She's like, what are you doing?
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  Speaker 3: It was like Daddy's he's doing a podcast.
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  Speaker 4: Daddy, you tell your kids you're working when you're doing
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  Speaker 4: a podcast, or do you just say you're doing it?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I usually do downstairs in the basement, but like my
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  Speaker 2: WiFi is so terrible, Like for some reason, right here
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  Speaker 2: I get quality WiFi and I don't even I didn't
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  Speaker 2: even know where my computer was for the longest time.
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  Speaker 2: This is actually the first podcast I've done that's been
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  Speaker 2: actually some quality stuff.
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  Speaker 4: So it's all.
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  Speaker 3: Working out a mark his hand and ship too. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like going to we were doing.
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  Speaker 2: She's doing a mirror in her room, so she's not
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  Speaker 2: getting like doing a nap or anything.
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  Speaker 3: She's just ripping around.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, this is what this is the elements there.
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  Speaker 5: She goes, Yo, yo, Hawk, would you would you start
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  Speaker 5: on the Cleveland Browns today this year? If Hawk in
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  Speaker 5: his prime. Are you starting? Are you starting in that
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  Speaker 5: uh starting on that road?
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  Speaker 4: My am my prime?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah for sure, bro, Yes I'm the start. I'm
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  Speaker 4: the starting slot. I wouldn't start over Jarvis. I wouldn't
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  Speaker 4: thought over Odell. When you go three receiver set, your
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  Speaker 4: boy is on the field one on one they did.
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  Speaker 1: Listen. I had you.
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  Speaker 5: I had you on my Madden team when I did
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  Speaker 5: fantasy drafts, like and you were in the seventies and
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  Speaker 5: you're that slow scat receiver that produced well and gained
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  Speaker 5: a better rating the next year year two and three.
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  Speaker 1: So you were always on my roster. You were always drafted.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you ran one hundred and two hundred right in
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  Speaker 3: high school.
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  Speaker 2: You were fast ass dude, eleven like eleven three or
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  Speaker 2: something like that.
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  Speaker 3: It was crazy.
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  Speaker 4: No, that's actually not that fast.
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  Speaker 1: But it's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: You see.
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  Speaker 1: You see where we grew up. Man, that shit.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was a.
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  Speaker 3: White guy in Arizona. Then I'm that thing on damn.
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  Speaker 3: So that is a serious business. How did you get
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  Speaker 3: to you? But you ran like a four to three
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  Speaker 3: four at the comm at the comb.
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  Speaker 4: So I actually didn't get fast until college, you know.
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  Speaker 2: But it makes sense, baby, that does not make sense
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  Speaker 2: at all.
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  Speaker 4: I was like one hundred and thirty pounds in high school.
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  Speaker 4: So you can't be fast until you start getting your
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  Speaker 4: man muscles right because you need to strength to like
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  Speaker 4: kind of run through with sustained speed. So I gained
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  Speaker 4: like thirty pounds between January of my senior year and
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  Speaker 4: my freshman year of college because I like quit basketball
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  Speaker 4: because I'm likey' I gotta put weight on it, and
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  Speaker 4: I just trained like I had never really lifted weights
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  Speaker 4: or nothing like that. So I went crazy hard. I
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  Speaker 4: put on like twenty five thirty pounds of muscle, and
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  Speaker 4: then when I got to school, I was the fastest
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  Speaker 4: until I got than playing football period.
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  Speaker 1: Where where'd you go to college?
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  Speaker 4: Toledo?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, he says, He says, Yeah, we're just kind of not.
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  Speaker 3: Interesting school. Interesting, interesting choice you.
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  Speaker 2: But but after after college you ended up going to
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  Speaker 2: play in the CFL for a couple of years. So
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  Speaker 2: I talked to Cam Cameron Wake, and he was telling
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  Speaker 2: me that the CFL is like the coolest setup, like
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  Speaker 2: when you guys go to when you go to like
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  Speaker 2: other teams and you play them after the games, that
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  Speaker 2: the teams will hook up and they'll be like, hey, like,
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  Speaker 2: we'll take you boys out.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna go here.
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  Speaker 2: There's like a there's like a you can't lock your
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  Speaker 2: door at all in your hotel room, so everyone you
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  Speaker 2: just barging on you at all times, like there's some
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  Speaker 2: crazy shit that happens out there.
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  Speaker 4: What was that all about, yo? The CFL was I
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  Speaker 4: mean again, I played what six seven years in the NFL,
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  Speaker 4: not even close. CFL was way more fun just as
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  Speaker 4: a player, because here's the thing, and I love the
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  Speaker 4: NFL and the competition is top notching, the money is,
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  Speaker 4: you know. But from the CFL perspective, there's no off season, right,
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  Speaker 4: So when you your last game is like Thanksgiving weekend
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  Speaker 4: if you make it to the championship, right, So Thanksgiving weekend,
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  Speaker 4: you're off and you're done until June. So there's no
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  Speaker 4: off season in the CBA. For the CFL, you have
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  Speaker 4: to be done with practice meetings, everything by like one o'clock, right.
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  Speaker 3: That's AAMU.
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  Speaker 4: Four hour days is the max you cannot. Teams aren't
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  Speaker 4: allowed to keep you for more than four hours a day.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm in the middle of Montreal, one of the
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  Speaker 4: biggest cities in North America, just a melting pot of
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  Speaker 4: every kind of people you can imagine, shopping, you know,
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  Speaker 4: night life, you name it. And I'm done every day
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  Speaker 4: at like twelve thirty one. It feels like a summer shop.
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  Speaker 4: I'm getting paid and like you know, it was. It
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  Speaker 4: was amazing. And like you said, we travel to these
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  Speaker 4: other cities, you know, we get there a day early,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and after the game we stay. It's not
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  Speaker 4: like we get like you know in the NFL. You
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  Speaker 4: come in and you play and you leave, and even
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  Speaker 4: in that downtime there's meetings, there's you have somewhere to
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  Speaker 4: be every minute of the time that you're doing anything there.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's not like that. It's like, yo, so you
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  Speaker 4: guys did the game. We go to the game, we
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  Speaker 4: get done, hit the other team up, Like yo, what
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  Speaker 4: at the spot? Oh meet us here? We got a
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  Speaker 4: table at such and such a downtown Vancouver. Cool. You
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  Speaker 4: can kick it. The next morning, we hop on a
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  Speaker 4: plane and we fly back.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, that's wild.
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  Speaker 2: Do you what do you think the CFL wasn't, like,
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  Speaker 2: isn't as successful as the NFL?
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  Speaker 3: Then, like, is there like a.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that there should be a merger? Because
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  Speaker 2: my thought is that the CFL. First off, if you
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  Speaker 2: want to be anybody in the CFL, they want to
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: go to the NFL. Right, that's kind of like the
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  Speaker 2: stepping stone. That's our minor league in a lot of ways.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, you can call me wrong in a second,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna fa Okay, he's.
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  Speaker 1: A Hawk, he's a first rounder. He doesn't you know,
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't get that.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, listen, I'm just saying, like, people want to make money,
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  Speaker 2: they want to go to you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: So I've been saying, like why doesn't the CFL do
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  Speaker 2: like a regular football side, like a regular football field,
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  Speaker 2: and have four downs and all and all that, Like
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  Speaker 2: why would they, Like, why wouldn't they do the same
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  Speaker 2: exact thing that's been so successful as the NFL to
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  Speaker 2: build a bigger brand.
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  Speaker 4: So here's how it works. So, the CFL has been
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  Speaker 4: around longer than the NFL. Number one, it's the longest
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  Speaker 4: standing professional football league. They were first even down into
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  Speaker 4: the seventies. Back in like the seventies and late seventies,
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  Speaker 4: the money was not different. So there are people that
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  Speaker 4: would not play in the NFL and go play in
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  Speaker 4: Canada because they got paid more money because the NFL
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  Speaker 4: players weren't making a lot of money, so there was
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  Speaker 4: like an you know, an actual like, hey, I don't
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  Speaker 4: know what league I want to play with. It depends
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  Speaker 4: on who plays pays me more So. Even in the NFL,
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  Speaker 4: the goalposts were at the front of the end zone, right,
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  Speaker 4: they moved them to the back of the end zone.
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  Speaker 4: So back in the day, the rules were a little
• 12:50
  Speaker 4: they were a little closer than they are now. But
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  Speaker 4: the CFL has a ton of tradition and they don't care.
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  Speaker 4: Like when you're in Canada, like you don't get all
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  Speaker 4: the NFL games. They might play one on t N,
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  Speaker 4: which is their version of ESPN, but you turn on
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  Speaker 4: Sports Center, they talk about Canadian Football League like it
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  Speaker 4: is their league and they like to keep it their league.
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  Speaker 4: Even in the rosters, there's a forty two active man roster,
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  Speaker 4: nineteen of them have to be Canadian born, Like you
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  Speaker 4: can't just flood your team with a bunch of American talent.
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  Speaker 4: So it's actually it was harder for me to make
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  Speaker 4: the roster in Canada than it was in the NFL,
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  Speaker 4: just because there's only limited spots, right, and like in Canada,
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  Speaker 4: you'll have like certain positions that are just reserved for
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  Speaker 4: Canadian So like a lot of the offensive linemen, they're like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, we got our own, big white guys. We
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  Speaker 4: can we can handle that, right.
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  Speaker 3: Disrespectful.
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  Speaker 4: Everywhere, free safeties, flock receivers like possession, we got those.
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  Speaker 4: They go down and they go get like all the
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  Speaker 4: four to two guys, the four to three guys, they
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  Speaker 4: can get them. But yeah, no, they like they're just
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  Speaker 4: big on the tradition. What I what I could see
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  Speaker 4: happening is especially in the middle of a quarantine where
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  Speaker 4: there's no season there and you know, they don't make
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  Speaker 4: as much money as the NFL by any stretch of
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  Speaker 4: the imagination, but I could see where the NFL basically
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  Speaker 4: buys the CFL and makes them, you know, their kind
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  Speaker 4: of development league. I mean, well, you're.
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  Speaker 5: Thinking, you're thinking this around, like right now, you can
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  Speaker 5: see that being a play for then.
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  Speaker 4: I could see that being a play. I could see
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  Speaker 4: that being a play. It's an established league. That's the
• 14:22
  Speaker 4: difference between with the leagues that pop up here and there.
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: It's established. When I played in Montreal, every game was
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: sold out for like years, and you know they're not
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: huge stadiums are like forty thousand, fifty thousand. It depends
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: on where you go. But yeah, you know you play
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: in Saskatchewan, that's like a green Bayish town. The entire
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: city is just wrapped around that football team, like that's
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: all they have, that's all they care about.
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: But college football, they already the the NFL already has
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: a developmental leak. They already have they have college football.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: They have literally free labor. They have like, oh yeah,
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: we have everything. We have everything we need. That's what
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: they don't need that triple A single a kind of stuff.
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean they could do the spring the
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: spring thing and the thing that the other thing it
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: does to the league is that it exposes them more
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: internationally and it begins they have a place where they
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: could start to kind of test some of those markets
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: and waters and you know, but I still think of
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: development league is important even in the NFL, because you know,
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: guys come from college. They're just not ready for me.
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: If I would have went to the league right out
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: of college, I don't think I would have. I would
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: have I would have made it.
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: Was it tried, Churdy, didn't you tried?
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: Didn't you go to like a rookie minicamp or anything.
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I went to a rookie minicamp and I did
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: great because again, one on one, I'm gonna be hard
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: to guard. I'm quick and fast, right, so especially people
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: that are you know, my same development, I'm gonna do
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: well again. So I did really well, but just understanding
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: the game. Like I got to go play in Montreal
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: with Mark Trestman, who was eventually then went on to
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: be the Bears head coach in thirty years in the
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: NFL coach, But I learned the game. I learned to
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: play against grown men and in an environment where I
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: wasn't like, hey, you have to be the man right
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: now or you can't stay, which is the NFL, right like,
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: you got to bring it now. If you're coming from
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: where I was coming from, the only people who get
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: time are the guys who get in the first round,
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: second round, those kind of guys. So being in the
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: NFL when I came back down after two and three
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: years playing the Bengals, I was a rookie when Aj
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: Green and Andy Dalton came in, and I remember being
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: in the weight room in Reggie Nelson, who was a
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: free safety. It was like, yo, where's you how many
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: years you've been in the league. And I'm like, oh,
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: I'm a rookie and he was like, you're not no rookie.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, it's my first year in NFL. Where'd
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: you play at I'm like Canada. He said, yeah, I
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: can tell you played against grown men like you. That's
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: the thing, like, once you learn to play against grown men,
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: it's a different mindset. So that's the thing that the
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: TfL could do for a lot of players who may
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: have a chance to stick, but there's nowhere for them
• 16:43
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  Speaker 3: So you think if the.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: NFL requires acquires the CFL that they might just change it.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Do you think they'll change it to their rules to
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: keep it all kind of similar or do you think
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Canada fans won't like that one bit?
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: I mean I don't know. I mean, here's what I
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: I have no idea that to even the thing, right,
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: So peoplere gonna.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yeah, we're all speculated here. But it's interesting.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: But if they did, it would only make sense to
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: them to change the rules. And I don't know how
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: can the thing about Canadian football fans that love the CFL,
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: the thing that they would hate more than changing their
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: tradition and historic rules is not having anything to root for,
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: right and out. Again, I don't know if that's what
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: the situation the CFL is in, but that money not
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: coming in is a big deal to that league.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a that's a bit of a deal.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: Though.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Why not just take an NFL team like they've they've
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: been talking about doing a team in London for a
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: while yeah, like that, I don't know if I know your.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Work for NFL. Now you've sold out a little bit,
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: and that's totally fine, and so like, I don't.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: You know you've swept in there a little bit. I
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: don't know if you hear any rumbling if you and
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Goodell are having tea.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: In a new flash you work for the NFL too,
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: But no, I work for the NFL.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: But I'm also like, nobody really like all the upper
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: people are like that fucking guy again, he's just a
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: loud mouthed guy.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: Off.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking it's way different, by the way, our jobs
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: are very different.
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: You hit it with that one.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they pay you thirty times if they pay me.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: Who do you think is more a more important employee
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: to them?
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: You gonna last a lot longer. I know that I
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: feel like over time you'll make more money.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Do you do you think there's a chance, like, yeah,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: there's obviously a chance that that that the NFL is
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: gonna may have a team in London, But how's that
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: gonna work? Do you play eight home games there than
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: eight away games here? Do you have two separate facilities?
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: And why?
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: And why not, since I know we're talking about the
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Canadian Football League, why not take a team and go
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: put it in British Columbia. Go put it in Montreal,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: go put it in those the cities, the Vancouver, London. Yeah,
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, it's close in London and
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: kind of give it that trial and error.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: That's a good question. Man. I don't know. I don't
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: know how I would feel about having to play in London,
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: you know, And that's me. I'm old school. I'm also
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: you know, I.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Don't know how I feel either that that would be crazy.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: It's kind of cool to me.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but think about when you got to travel, like
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: think of just.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no question, Yeah eight hours every time?
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm saying not not a week.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: You know, you would have to go eight home games
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: in London and then go eight home games away, and
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: then you'd have to have like a separate facility in
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: the United States, like and I don't know, North Carolina,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: somewhere in North Carolina, you know what I'm saying, Like
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: a random So.
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: You think it'd be dope because it'd be like a
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: change of scenery after like a year you take.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Off, like, let's go to the US now.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: So I think there's like two different trains of thought.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: If you're like a young player trying to figure it
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: out and like really trying to make your mark in
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: the league.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: That sucks because you're not going to.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Be in it like that, you're not going to be
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: in the Beacon, you know what I'm saying of the
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: United States trying to like, you're around the players, you're
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: kind of traveling, you're doing the regular travel day that
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: everybody else is doing. But if you're towards the end
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: of your career and like, what a cool cultural experience
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: that would be to go and live in London and
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: play a sport that everybody loves and be like a
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: stepping stone of people that like you're trying to change
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: the brand, you're trying to adapt and grow, and you
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: can look back, you know, you play two three years
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: doing that and you look back and go, I was
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: one of the people that got this kind of steam
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: head that of you know, London.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: They're a franchise in London that I helped start.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: And I think so like, as a young player, I
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: don't think you would want it, But as an older player,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: I think that'd be really cool to like to be
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: a part of, you know, like this COVID thing, Like
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: depending on this COVID thing in this season, like if
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: we like get an island, like the UFC did do
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: cruise ships, you know, two teams per cruise ships. Like
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: there's gonna be documentaries, crazy shit that's gonna happen, like
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: and we get to sit there and say.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Yo, we were a part of this, like we were
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: a part of.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: This crazy, like insane world changing thing. And then still
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: play an NFL season because there's no way, there's no
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: way we don't play.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I think.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I knew we were gonna get to this eventually. I
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: I can't see.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: There's too much money.
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: Do you think do you think there's a do you
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: think there's a chance of a season not happening?
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Hold, before you do that, tell me about London because
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: because we got to hit that, and then we'll go
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: to COVID because that we're gonna never get back to London.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: Such a damn pro Yeah. No, I like London. I
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: think it would be a cool experience. What wouldn't be
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: a cool experience is traveling back and forth like that
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: would be that would just be brutal to me. And
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: like you know, and I guess in the grants game
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: that because I would never really live in the places
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: that I would play. After a while, I would have
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: my off season place and then head to the city
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: and do my thing. But when you think of like
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: off season, like where's your off season going to be?
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: Is it's still going to be in London, And like
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: you know, that means you probably have to move there
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: for the considerable amount of time. I don't know, man,
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: it would just be tough. You're right, I do think
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: so a place like Toronto makes a lot more sense
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: to expand to first. But again, those are those are
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: conversations way above both you and I. It's paygrade, no question.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Geographically that makes the most sense going on the Western hemisphere.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, but for for whatever reason, like
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: I got to play in London, will did you ever?
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Have you ever played in London? Yeah, it's kind of
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: It's a wild right, It's like you don't really like
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: the fans.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: You go out there and everyone's cheering and like we
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: scored every different differs and then you're sitting there and
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: then they score and they start cheering. That's like London
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: people are just like, fuck it, man, don't both these
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: people they don't really care. It's wet for touchdowns, dude, Yeah,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: they're rooting for touchdowns. It's like Nascar, like you want.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: They're looking for the accidents Hockey, they're looking for the fights.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: And it's like what everybody wants?
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Did you London?
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: My last year in Cleveland, Like towards the end of
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: the season, Troy Vincent came to Cleveland. Now at this time,
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: everyone's complaining about the London games, right, because they're like, Yo,
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: it's bad for your body, we got to go across
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: the country, blah blah blah. Before that's bye week, uch
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: of wield, Right, Troy Vincent comes to visit the Browns
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: and he sits down with like the leaders on the team.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: So it's like me, Joe Thomas, Tramont, Tremont Williams, Josh McCown,
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: Joe Hayden is like the Mario Davis like vets right,
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: leaders of the team. So he sits down with us,
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: we start talking about a bunch of stuff. He's like,
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: you know what about London, and we were kind of
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: all like, yo, we want to play in London. We
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: never get to play in London, Like most of us
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: had not played in London yet. So he's like, what, okay,
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: that's interesting. Joe Thomas is like banging on the table
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: for it, like yeah, man, like I want to at
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: least experience that. Everyone at least give me the chance
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: to complain about it, like everybody else, right, right, So
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: the schedule comes out that year. Of course Cleveland is
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: now playing in London. Nobody that was in that meeting,
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: not one person got to play in London for the
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: Browns traded every single person. And then Joe tears this
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: tricep the week before London. So there was like eight
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: of us and none of us got to play in London.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Oh the Joe Joe Thomas tearing of trust that that
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: was against the Titans and oh yeah, and I remember
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: I met Joe in the Pro Bowl the year before.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: And so like Joe Thomas too offensive, lignment is like
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: might be the last dance? Yeah, I guess so, yeah,
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: I would say so, Like he's like he's the dude.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: He's like, you know, the guy that looks like he
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: goes he's one of the greatest, if not the greatest.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Of all time.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Like the amount of snaps he played ten years and
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Pro Bowls that kind of thing. And I'm watching this
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: guy who I got to meet the year before come
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: towards the sideline and get up and get on his
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: tricep like he's like grabbing his tricep and they're looking
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: at him. I'm like, holy shit, like I'm watching this
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: dude end his streak right now.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: This is crazy, you know.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, you know him, you should go
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: out and you should go out and say something to him.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: So I start like jogging out there to like say
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: something to him, and like he gets up as I'm
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: running towards him and like fucking powerhawks down the down
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: the other side, Like I don't even reach him. I
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: like go to the pat him and I like don't
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: even have like turn around like halfway down.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: The field, Like this is the dumbest mistake.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: I like turn I like jogged back and all that
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: like Dennis Kelly, and like a couple dudes are looking
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: at me like hey, how that goes?
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Like I don't want to talk about it was just stupid, milk?
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: What what? What a dumb movie?
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: Because I need I need the.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Foot there definitely is like going I get him. I
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: got a pad.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: I pat him on the ad and I realized, like,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: oh shit, you're kind of out here, aren't you, And
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: like I kind of like go back, you're kind of
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: out It was crazy.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: Dude, Hey, you were a part of that moment though,
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: you know that's what it's just.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Stacking it up.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: I'm part of COVID, I'm part of a London trip
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: exactly going.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: To do Mexico City.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: But yeah, like it's not good for your body. London's
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: not good for your body. Traveling eight hours is not
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: good for your body. Trying to get sleep, like we
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: left on a Thursday, left on a Thursday, slept on
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: the plane, and then got off the plane and started
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: went right to practice. And they're like, hey, like at
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: least stay up till seven three the next day. So
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: I'm literally staring at the clock trying to go to sleep.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Finally get to go to sleep at seven thirty, wake
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: up at like two in the morning, and I'm like, uh,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what the fuck? How am I going to
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: play a game after?
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: This?
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: This is this is crazy. You go in the field,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: the field's like bumpy and rocky, and you slide and everywhere.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: It was like it's it's the worst conditions possible, but
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: it's still super awesome.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's still.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Super cool though, like the whole like you know.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: You're I'm yeah, I'm for sure glad I can say
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: I played in London, but yeah, when I actually got
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: hurt hawkeye, I tore my hamstring the week before the
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: Titans traveled to London, I told my hamstring and so
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: I got to miss out on the London trip, and
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: low key, I was kind of like, oh thank god,
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: I don't.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Got to travel and do all that shit over there.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: D right, I actually would have a deal. I wouldn't
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: have mind traveling being hurt, because then I could just
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  Speaker 1: You know that now?
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: See that's that's true for sure, because we when I
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: was on the Skins, we had the same schedule. You
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  Speaker 5: fly out a Thursday night after practice on a Thursday
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  Speaker 5: practice and you land, it's fucking Friday morning already, you
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  Speaker 1: It's it's terrible, and we ended in a tie against the.
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• 28:47
  Speaker 5: wasn't nothing any anybody else was doing. So we're kind
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: of like partying on the plane bag. But you don't
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  Speaker 1: You don't really know what to.
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  Speaker 5: Say that Dustin Hopkins shout out the hop You don't
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  Speaker 4: That's crazy, huh.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I think I think we played. Were you on the
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  Speaker 5: on the field together. I think there's a I think
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: there's a photo out there, probably you.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Probably shaking myself and will black men.
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  Speaker 4: I remember thinking, like, now a white dude named Compton,
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  Speaker 4: you don't see that every day?
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: That's probably, uh. I all the black people they always
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: ask me that stuff.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then Todd Gurley is he's my other guy.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: He's the only black guy I've ever met named Todd
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: in my life.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: I needed you guys to laugh at I said black
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: people because I was wanting it to be a joke.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: But people probably hear that on the pod and like,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: holy ship that constant.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: But well he then the person's listening to it, like,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: well he is from Missouri, you know black people.
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: Holy sh yo, Hey, do you do you remember when
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: that uh the referee said that you're running back.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: I forget his name.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: What that fumble that I got? The fumble recovery?
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: It wasn't a fumble recovery.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: I know I didn't have the ball.
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: A crazy Smike came up like, hey man, big player
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: at the end with that fumber. Uh two turnovers because
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: I remember I stripped on one and I was like
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: two turnovers. They're like, yeah, they got you for that
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: fumber recovery. I was like what because I remember being
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: at the bottom of the pile and smash ripping my
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: arm and.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: I was like hey.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: I was like, yo, that's my fucking arm.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Let go on my arm.
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: And uh, we get up and apparently I had the
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: pumber recovery.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Ball wasn't even on the bottom of the pile, Taylor.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: It was a phone recovery.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: So the running back drops the ball, Duke Johnson gets
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: it right back, stands up it was handed, hands it
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: to the ref and the other ref comes in and
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: points to the Redskins. The running back is holding the
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: ball in his hand like what.
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: They start jumping freaking out, like, yo, we got the
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: ball and we just we just get.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: The fucking ball and then ended up moving that game.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: I post a speaking of the last dance too.
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: I post a picture of the day the next day
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: of the referee pointing it the other way, and I
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: just put the little Jordan cry emoji faces, like all
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: over all the Browns players.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: That's up, Bro, that's messed up. I wouldn't have came
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: in the pot had done.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: That, is what? What's the weirdest things?
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: Like?
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Is that the weirdest situation that's ever happened to you
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: in a football game?
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: Weirdest situation? Heck, I don't know, man, it was all weird.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: I don't know, Like.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Flexing the watch.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Like hey Taylor, he like leans forward like.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: I don't really know.
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, that is a role that gentleman.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Getting paid pretty good by the NFL.
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: There, huh. A couple of weird situations I've had. James
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: Harrison and Jay Gruden almost fought one time.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Almost fought James Harrison.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, man, we were playing Chicago. It would have got outury,
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: but shout out to Jay because Jay didn't back down.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: I will give him. I will give him that.
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: Jay.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: We were playing versus Chicago. It was James Harrison's first
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: game as a Bengal in that like weird year where
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: he was on the Bengals and the offense got the
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: ball back with like two minutes left in the half.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: So Jay fires off three passes. Boom, boom, boom, like
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: six seconds roll off the clock, right, So defense is
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: pissed because they're like, Yo, run the football. Let's go
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: in the halftime. Kill clock. So we have to punt it.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: We're backed up, We're like on our own ten yard line.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: Punt it. They get it. They do, like three players
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: kick a field goal. We going down, and so the
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: whole James Harrison is like flipping out. So Jay's walking in.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: James is right here like I can't believe what the
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: f are you doing? Run the damn football. Black. We
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: get in the locker room and people are like trying
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: to hold James back. So as you can imagine, it
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: was like fifteen people trying to hold this man back,
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: and then Jay lost this stuff. So now they're face
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: to face. Right, no one's holding Jay back though, but
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: everyone's holding James. So James keeping us safe. This is
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: just a case, you know, James breaks free. But yeah,
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: that was a pretty crazy situation. And that actually wasn't
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: the old time that I've been around players and coaches
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: about to fight.
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: When you see James Harrison, like his videos on Instagram
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: of him putting, like pushing two thousand pounds on a
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: sled and you just see him like bench pressing all
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: of the weight, not just some of it, all of
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: the weight, You're like, well, what did pit an imposing figure?
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Like he is a mass he's got to be massive.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: And then you play against him. I remember, like I
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: put against him my rookie year and everyone's like, hey, don't.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Hey, don't piss James Harrison off. Don't piss him off.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: I'm like, what are you talking? Like, that's my thing.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: I'm a shit talker, and I'm like, what are you
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: talking about?
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: To be fine?
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: And I had the first play of the game, like
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: he jogs out there, I'm like, oh, this guy's little,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: like he's on a shore like we're we oh, we
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: gonna be all right, And I'm thinking like, how is
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: this guy got Sony Sacks?
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Such a long game? Dude?
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: It was.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: It was the first play of the game, I like
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: cut him and I start cursing at him or whatever.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: And then there's an outside zone the next play and
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: I'm going to my right and I turn and he
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: grabs me by the ankle and starts gator rolling my
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: ankle and he's.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: Like literally, I'm like, he just broke my ankle right there.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: It was. He is so strong, his center of gravity
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: is so low. I mean, as a defensive lineman, I
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: don't think you really need to be that tall.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: I think, and now that effort.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Playing James Harrison, it's like, if your center gravity is
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: out load, you can turn the corner that fast as
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: he does and use your leverage against you.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: That's a big win.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: He's like stupid powerful, Like he's he's almost as wide
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: as he is like tall. Yeah, he's he's like built
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: like a box.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: He's every day a brick ship house.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean he just literally lift like for like
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: four or five hours a day.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: And that's only posed too.
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: It's almost like how many how many prowler sled pushes
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: where you got like a house on each side?
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: He won, he won the weight room he likes over.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: It's like that.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: It's that the hard Knocks video JJ Watt's doing past
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: past drills at ten pm at night.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: It's like, hey, Jj, it's over. Practice is done now, dude.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I could just go home now.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: Any any player watching that that that's the moment that
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: we were talking about that one time where you see
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: these things on TV or the Hard Knocks and you're
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: just like, if they're going super hard all day long
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: like everyone normally does, you're not doing pastorals at ten.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Pm at night that you definitely had a rest day at.
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: Practice if you're out in front of a camera, you know,
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: hitting these past drills.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: I always look at those dudes that get rest days
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: because they're older or they're that good, and like during camp,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: like so jealous coach told me to take the day off.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you ever get those hawks?
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: I got? I got my last year, I got a
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: I think in camp I was on a two and
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: one schedule.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: What is that? Two on one day off?
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: Too? On one off?
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: You were on that?
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was on a two to one.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: I'd be going so hard.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Then he flashes.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: Again, Joe Thomas, best schedule I've ever seen in my life.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Let's hear it. Yeah, let's hear it.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: Sixteen days of work.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: You lie, he would't even practice.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: You're lying.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: Game day. That was the only time I see Joe.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: I'm flooded with society right now. I literally think I
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: have a pit in my stomach right now.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: Just he was that good. It's like this, It's like, yo,
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: you don't drive a Ferrari every day. That's a Sunday car,
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: you know. You you bring that thing out on Sundays
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: and you rev it up. You don't running it into
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: the ground Monday through Saturday. That was Joe.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: He's hearing.
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: Joe was that good. And he was still great out
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: better than every player on the team, and you obviously
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: make Pro Bowls and stuff. His body was just so
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: worn down, like that's why Joe Jodan retired because he
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: was just done with football. Joe's body was genuinely shit, right,
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: Like so if you play ten thousand snaps, that's there's
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: a price to play. So he I mean, he couldn't
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: walk down steps and stuff, so there would just be
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: like it became it was more detrim in oral for
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: him as a player to practice. Then it was beneficial.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: So at that point, it was like, yo, he doesn't
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: need to practice. He would come out there for walkthroughs,
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: but even like standing up because he couldn't stand up.
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: His back was bad. His knees are bad, so he
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: couldn't even stand at practice like it was the best way.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: Had he not been on that schedule, he probably would
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: have been forced to retire, probably a couple of years earlier.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Anxiety, massive amounts of anxiety right now, dude.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: He if you if he doesn't look like it now,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: I shredded.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: If I'm ever at the point where my back I
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: can't like, hey, Tim, can you hoard to practice?
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: Say?
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: I can't even stand there? My back hurts so bad,
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: like you gotta, you gotta.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: That's terrifying, Like I'd be think what's gonna happen to
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: me in five years from now?
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: And he looks great.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: He looks like he's done it better than any offensive
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: line and I've seen do it.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: I bet you.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Joe Staley catches up to him because he is he's
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: looking thin thin he uh, he randomly sent me a picture,
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: sent me a picture of his shirt off.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: You know, dude's thin here. It's a little weird, but
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: it's a bit of brotherhood.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have, I have it right here, but I
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: don't know, man, like when I if you're hurting that bad,
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: and why wouldn't.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: You cut it?
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Or would you rather play ten thousand, three hundred and
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: sixty whatever snaps like he did, or was rather just
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: playing nine thousand and play about five more years?
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: You know? I think here, here's the thing about Joe, Man.
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: He he had the chance to go to the Broncos.
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: The Broncos were trying to trade for him the year
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: they won the Super Bowl, Like at the trade deadline,
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: it was like supposedly the facts came in a minute late.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: That's the only reason it didn't happen. But I really
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: think it was the GM we had at the time.
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: He didn't want on his resume that he was the
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: guy that traded away Joe Thomas from the Cleveland Browns,
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: like in Cleveland, you'll never live that down right never.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: I think he purposely, you know, sent it in late.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: But the Broncos, like Peyton Manning calling him, telling him
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: to go take a piss on the GM's death. So
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: he trades you away. But Joe didn't want to go.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: Like I remember sitting him at the lunch table, and
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: I'm thinking in my mind, like, yo, you're about to
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: go win a super Bowl if the reports are right.
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: But he was like stressed because he didn't want to
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: leave Cleveland and he was just like at that time,
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: he had been there so long and family and it
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: was like yo, I'm like, he's here to ride it out.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: So when you talk about the nine thousand and play
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: five years more, I think it got to the point
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: where the mix of both you know, his body and
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: the field right, and he wanted to be there for
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: a Browns turnaround, which is why he wanted to stay,
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: Like that was more important to him than going somewhere
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: and piggybacking off a super Bowl. But it got to
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: the point where some of the moves again being made
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: and they're getting rid of good players. They're doing the
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: like yo, draft positioning, and he's like, yo, you guys
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: are two and three years away, you know what I mean.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: So he had to start making a decision for his body,
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: like you're talking about Taylor being like, yeah, I don't
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: see this coming around anytime soon, and shoot, here we
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: are three years later, and he was right.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no question.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: Now you guys got your little Tomahawk show now now,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: not little I.
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: Don't say that, did not mean that at all in
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: that fashion. You know, you know when I wanted to
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: start to say I'm calling hawks, if if if.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: The Tomahawk wasn't a distant relative to the Busting with
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: the Boys, because when it was happening, I'm like, YO,
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: will hit me up, Like yo, I think me and
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: Taylor wrong gonna start this podcast. I gave them all
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: the keys. I said, here's what you want to do,
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: Here's how you want to do it. You got to
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: do this, you got to do that. Here's what they want,
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: here's what's worked. Keep it this. Boom boom boom. I
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: actually left that conversation and was like, Yo, this podcast
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: is going to be great. I'm telling you these guys,
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: I got them. I'm telling you man, I got the mind,
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: I got my I got my producers will back that
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: up after the first especially after your first episode. Who
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: was your first episode, Delaney, first episode, I'm like, this
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: is going to be huge.
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: Now to the boys at Roadbacks, shout out Roadback, dude.
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: Roadback is for the boys. You should be too. They're
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  Speaker 5: he was rocking a rowback cusip at the Combine. Their
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• 47:14
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: Now back to this wonderful episode with Andrew Hawkins.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: Really, oh, shout out the boys, shout out us, good
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: for us.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Hey, Taylor, Taylor.
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: I remember reaching out to him to shout out us.
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: I remember reaching out to him. I think it was
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: during the season this past year maybe or maybe at
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: the end of the summer, but.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: I was like, Hey, what's up, uh, what's up with
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: the uninterrupted? And he didn't hit me back.
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: Well, actually he responded me, He's like, you know, we
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: only it's specific kind of guys that we roll with.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Crazy. You guys don't really fit that mold.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: Crazy dude at.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Will and I will and I have proven to sell
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: our souls, dude, we will will be What are the
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: things that change that changed color iguanas?
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: What are those things?
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: Chameleon? Chameleon?
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: Can we follows right now?
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: You want me to cut my hair, shave my beard
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: and put a cord shirt on.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: What's the price tag? You know what I'm saying. We'll
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: do it. We absolutely, we'll sell out for the brand.
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: Baby.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Hey, I love it Interrupted is, but I want on,
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: I want on uninterrupted.
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: Yo.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, you don't know what interrupted is?
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: No, Okay, So let me do the boy, right, man.
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: So transition away from football. What you were thirty one?
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: Thirty one? Yep?
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: And I'm gonna let him talk about some of his
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: stuff he was doing to hustle to get in some
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: of these meetings he was getting in. But you basically
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: wanted to be an intern at Uninterrupted, which is Lebron
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: James's umbrella platform, and you would never really fully know
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: because you guys do such a good job branding.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: But what's his name, Maverick Carter?
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: Yep?
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Like Lebron's best friend.
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: He kind of runs all this stuff, all this media stuff,
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: and Hawk just reaches out and wants to get an internship, right.
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Isn't that correct?
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: You're hitting it yep?
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And so he basically just wanted because you just
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: wanted to be getting this game of not really sure
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: what you wanted to do this and that, but Lebron
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: owns uninterrupted. Yeah, the whole brand uninterrupted. Anytime you see uninterrupted,
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: just know Lebron is on that.
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: Machine, dude.
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: So you're like, you're like, what the the business CEO
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: some shit?
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, director of business development. So I was playing so
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: my last couple of years in Cleveland, you know, because
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: I mean my older brother played in the league too,
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: and I have like a bunch of family members that
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: play ball, and you guys know, you got homeboys and
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: friends that have played, and you know, you get done
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: and you got the poems up, like, yo, what's next?
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: And that's tough on a lot of guys, right, besides,
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: you know some of the other conversations just you know,
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: you've wrapped your identity and ball for so long you
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: don't know what's next. So for me, I'm like, I
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: don't want to do that. I don't want to have
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: to go through that. So I went back and got
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: my master's degree. And while I was getting my master's degree,
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: when I signed with Cleveland, which was my version of
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: a big deal. It's not left tackle money, but for me,
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: it was a big deal because I was letting somebody's
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: couch like four years early. So I was like, when
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: I got to Cleveland, I just started trying to have
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: hunt down Maverick Carter, who was again Lebron's business manager
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: and you know, runs all the companies in the business
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: of Lebron James. And I'm like, I just wanted to
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: learn because I'm like, yo, if he can give me
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: some keys, that set me up for when I'm done.
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: I didn't really know I wanted to get in the
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: media on front of the camera, but I knew I
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: wanted to do it behind the camera. And you know,
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: I hunted them down. It took me like a year
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: and a half, two years, and I just hounded it
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: them and he's like, yo, bro, if you're serious about it,
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: come to la do an internship. And I'm like, all right, bet.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: So I picked my family up my last off season
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: in the league, moved out to la trained out here,
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: but I was going to classes in New York for
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: my masters. So every week I would be doing my
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: internship and on Monday, I would leave it like four
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: in the morning, fly to New York, all day classes
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: in New York, and at night on the red eye
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: right back to LAO. Whole off season. So I'm interning
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: in school and that just kind of helped developed and
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: Uninterrupted was new, so you know, it was able to
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: kind of help shape the company and initiatives, and then
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: they were like, Yo, we want you on full time
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: whenever you get done. So when I retired, I walked
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: right into yeah, being the director of business development, so
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: been there for what three years now, and then in
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: front of the camera with ESPN and NFL Network, started
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: to like kind of develop and then doing my own
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: content and then the podcast. So it's all kind of
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: worked out, man, And you know, you guys are shoot.
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, imagine that I got started when I got done, right,
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: So imagine the head start guys like you were going
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: to have. When it's all said and done, you're gonna
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: walk into opportunities like some of these quarterbacks who was like, Yo,
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: these opportunities are gonna pay you just as much as
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: you made in the league. And that's like, that's what
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: it's all about. And Interrupted is the more than an athlete.
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: That's what that shit is about. Man's being like, Yo,
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: you could do a lot of things, like you could
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: do a podcast and be the start and left tackle
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: or linebacker in the NFL, or have your own media
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: company one day. You know what I'm saying.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: There's there's something different about like when you make up
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: a dollar on the football field, Like that's awesome, but
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: then eventually it's like, well, that's my job, and then
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: you take something when you make a dollar off the
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: football field, you're like, yo, this is this is just
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: free money? Like that we did it like you like
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: it's crazy your mindset. You're like, I'm actually I'm actually
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: good at something else too, this is super cool.
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: Like you built busting from nothing. This wasn't a thing,
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: and now you've got damn how dope is that?
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: Taylor and I we would do so when we started,
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: it was like you wanted to have some in the
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: library before you release one.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: Just to have it all prepared.
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: And we just be facetiming dude, probably a lot during
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: the week and we just like, man, do we think.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: This is gonna be dope? Like yeah, stupid, Like are
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: you sure?
• 52:48
  Speaker 5: It was just and then that first call when I
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: was like yo, our first sponsorship, bro, I was on
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: like cloud nine.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: We were like we fucking did this ship. We did it.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: We the buzz, that's the whole thing, and it's scary too,
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: because you wouldn't. I mean, we're still playing with I
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: think we're the only we're the only podcast, right Will
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: that that's active, Well.
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: I identified I think the McCartney twins have one, so
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: I can't neglect that they have a pot out. But yes,
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: we're like we're like one of the first, maybe the
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: first in the space is.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: Like active as active NFL loops.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: It's cool, it's it's it's just a it's a really
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: sweet gig.
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: It's cool to be a part of. It's cool to develop.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: It's cool to like look back and see like the
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: first episodes you did and then look at what you
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: do now and how much easier it is.
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: Like you're not sweating as much.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: Like I literally was like playing with my kid and
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: I was like, well, I've got to go do a
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: podcast now.
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: It's just it's fun. It's a it's a fun experience and.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: It does it.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: It may open a lot more doors, but this is
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: like this whole podcast I say it all the time.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: Is was Will, Like Will was the one that was
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: like I want to do this, this is my like,
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: will you do this with me? And I was like absolutely,
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: And He's from the ground up, built everything, like he
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: constantly on calls and people calling, people like you, calling
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: people like Pat McAfee, like figuring out what works and
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: what doesn't. So we are learning. Curve was not so much.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: I just I just came here and I put this
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: mic and I was like, okay, well, hey, here we are.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: You know you have money, I know, I'm sure Hawks.
• 54:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna say I'm sure. Hawk sits back and
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: identifies all this stuff.
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: We make sure your is on, I'll take you yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: Just show up on this time or make sure the
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: MIC's here. He was rocking. Yo, Hey, he's serious that
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: he's looking at the prepe.
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: He was on his phone doing it with AirPods and
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: with the Wi Fi downstairs. Now, my man looks like
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: he's running a breakfast show right now in the morning.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: I'm doing it, baby.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: Was that a couple of coffee right now?
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: Yo?
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: But Hawk, what would you like? What?
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: What's like the cry you give to guys when they
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: want to pick your brain, or that you urge guys
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: in the league to do like when you're when you
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: want you identify these young guys and you want them
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: to be curious because you were like, Yo, this is
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: not gonna last forever, like everyone says, not for long,
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: but you don't know until. Like me, I always think
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: like it's not gonna last forever. But when now that
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: it's actually becoming a thing, I was really I had
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: a lot of anxiety about it, so like, what is
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: something that you try to give young guys, hey get
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: involved in this kind of stuff.
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: So when I got done, man, like, here's the thing
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: about ball, And again I prepared because what happened was
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: after I got done with college, there was a two
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: or three year odyssey of like football being done. I
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: was living on a couch my year after college and
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: working at a factory and as a caddy, you know
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying, and football was like done for me.
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: And that was like the shittiest feeling I've ever had
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: in my life. Not because football was done, but it's like, oh,
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: I don't know what my identity is literally rapped in
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: this right. I love football. I still love football, but
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: I didn't like that feeling. So I'm like, if I
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: can get it back going, I'm not gonna let that
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: happen again. And even with all of that, still, when
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: I retire from the league. You're right, there's still anxiety
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: like this is still who I am. It's been me
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: my whole life. I don't care how prepared you are,
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: You're still going to have that feeling of like, man,
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: I don't know what house is going to go. So
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: when I talk to guys, I try to be transparent
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: with them. Anyone who knows me is like, yo, if
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: I go to Hawk for't don't come to me for
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: information or advice if you don't want to hear the
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: hard truth. I'm not your guy. You know. No, I'm funny, funny,
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: hardy Hall with the sketches, But anyone who knows me
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: knows I give it to you with no chaser, like
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: you're gonna have to just take this right. But when
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: you're doing it, it's you didn't become a left tackle
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: starting and you know, one of the highest paid and
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: best left tackles in the league. Will you didn't have
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: the career that you've had and you know, be able
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: to go everywhere and people say, yo, he's an asset
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: to this franchise by just coasting it right. That's the
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: problem with a lot of guys in the league. And
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: when you play, it's like you think that because you've
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: done this thing here, people will scholarship you everywhere else.
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: Not the case. So even when we had that conversation
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: about you know when you first start busting, it was like, Yo,
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: you got to work at this and put the same
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: crazy amount of time, stress, anxiety on yourself that you
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: did when you play ball. Otherwise it won't work because
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: there are other people out here who have been doing
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: this for thirty years that would like nothing more than
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: the stuf off you out and make sure you don't
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: become a thing. It is hard to become a thing
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: and anything else when other people have devoted their lives
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: to something. So that's a testament to y'all, man, and
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: like for real, because you know you guys are from
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: the start. Just put the work in, man, and there's
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: no substitution for that. And then and again you guys
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: get to reap the benefit of that.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: It's a cool thing to.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: I'm gonn jump through the wall right now, about to
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: run through it. I'm gonna give it to you straight.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: You're gonna have to take all of that. Let's not
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: look that comment. By the way, You're gonna have to
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: take this thing, no chaser, I'm gonna have to get
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: here to take all that. I was like, I'm gonna
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: finish finishes because it was really good.
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: But I know, hey, but Hawk was like one thing
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: that Hawg did that I thought was dope was you
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: were saying that you ordered a bunch of jerseys when
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: you got done playing, and anybody you wanted to have
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: a conversation with, you would basically write a letter with
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: that jersey and ship it to them because you knew
• 58:10
  Speaker 5: anybody who gets.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: A jersey at their officer, oh, you know, they want
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: to show it off.
• 58:14
  Speaker 5: And everything, but talk about talk about talk about doing that.
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean it's it's like people like being
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: told like that you know you appreciate them, right, or
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: that you see what they're doing. And that's one person,
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: that's all. That's how I am. If I see somebody
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: doing something dope or that I'm impressed with, I tell
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: them so again. When I was got done playing at Toledo,
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: the prestigious college that it is, don't don't hate shout
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: out to Brett Kerr by the way, shout together, that's
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: my guy. But yeah, so when I got done there
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: and like being like, hey, I played at Toledo it
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: didn't get me anywhere, even like the benefit that did
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: while I was playing there had fallen off because no
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: one cares about when you're done, right. It's just a
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: lot of people can say they used to play in
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: the NFL. How many people can say, like, yo, start
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: receiver for the Browns. Right now, I'm a leading receiver.
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: So when I got to that point, I would go
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: to my equipment guy. I would buy one hundred, you know,
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: fifty to one hundred jerseys every off season game jerseys,
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: and I would write a letter, sign the jersey, assign
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: it to somebody, and write a letter to someone that
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: I looked up to, someone I would love to pick
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: the brain of, someone I wanted to have lunch with,
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: a coffee, someone I wanted advice from, and I would
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: send it to them call in the mail. And I'm
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: not even kidding. Those relationships that I built through that
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: are still what keep me afloat to this day because
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: people will remember how you treated them when you're on top, right,
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: Like when you were the man? Were you doing this?
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: When you're done, everyone was going to reach out. Like
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: when you're done playing, every former player starts hitting up
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: the network. Hey remember me? People are used they see
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: through that, like, but when you're on top and you're
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: reaching out, they will treat you like you treated them
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: at that moment for the rest of your life. So
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: that was the mindset.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: Man, Did you want to work for NFL Network? Did
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: you want to like be a part of that?
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the situation happened. I I did not
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: think that I was going to be able to do media.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: You know, I had no because I didn't win any
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: Super Bowls. I played for the Bengals and Browns, never
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: won a playoff game, never been to the Pro Bowl,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: a reality show in Canada, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: I didn't think I had a chance to be honest,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: so when I started doing stuff, I'm like, Okay, if
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: my personality isn't what's gonna make me shine, then it
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: just ain't happening because that's not the resume that you
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: typically look for. So I started doing stuff at ESPN,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: and I would just make sure I would pass up
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: on good opportunities and just being like yo, like I
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: need to showcase my personality and being able to do
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: funny stuff. And I host the Sports are Own Snap
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: and it got nominated for Emmy. So when the NFL
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: seen that and they started reaching out, like, yo, we
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: want to make sure that we're kind of keeping up
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: with the times and you know, putting out content that
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: people are used to in these times. And who better
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: to do it than one of our own. I thought
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: it was because again, like you know, you spend your
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: whole life. You don't get to the NFL in accident.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: You've been trying to do that since you were seven, right,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: like so that you can say what you want about
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: the shield, but it's shaped a lot of our lives,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. We could talk all the
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: mess we want to as players and don't do that
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: other but the shield has been something You've been trying
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: to acquire your entire life. So to be on this
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: side of it and be able to be myself do
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: funny stuff about the thing that I'm an expert at,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: which is football. Come on, man, you can't beat that.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: You I was gonna say, hey, he dropped the mic
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 5: on that one, and now hey, now he's out there.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 5: Have you seen his impressions of the last dance. I
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 5: know you got to go here like within five minutes, sailor, but.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: Have you seen these impressions of the last dance.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: No, hey, hey, got best one?
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: Bar nine is your Dennis Rodman one. I mean that, Hey, Yo,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: that one is.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: Thank you, man. I appreciate it. Man, I was nervous.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: I almost didn't put those out. Man, Bro, it's.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: It's it's crazy how that works.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: Like I wrote in two like like blogs that I've
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 5: taken serious and I'm super nervous when I'm about to
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: like put something out, when it's like, all right, I'm
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: gonna do this, but then when people start hitting you
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: and like, yo, that's awesome, like especially teammates like you
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: were saying it, like when somebody reaches out, that's kind
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: of you see as a peer of yours, and hey,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: that's really cool and like gives you that confidence like okay,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 5: all right, I was doing the right thing.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: I'm just in my own head about it. But Yo,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: that Dennis Robins kit is fucking hilarious.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: Bro, I appreciate it. Man.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: Hey, it's probably probably the best one, the best impression,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 5: best video, mock you mocking anything I've seen about the
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: last dance.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: Like that is you are so chatting this video.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 5: Hey, when he goes he puts on there he goes,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 5: who is this?
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 6: I was like, oh, like, yo, that is so good.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: Who is this?
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: You fucking crushed that whole video? Dude? Do you just
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: set that up in your house?
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 5: Like? Are you just at home and you're like that,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 5: You set it up and you're like the wife and
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: kids like they step out and you just do your
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: like you're working.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: So when I retired, just like I told you, I
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: didn't think anybody would give me a chance in media.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: So I'm like, I'm just gonna start doing stuff on
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: my own. So I bought a green screen, I bought
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: a camera, I bought lights. This is in twenty seventeen,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: and I just had them in my carpet. I moved
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: here to La for the job, and uninterrupted, like a
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: year later, They've been sitting in my garage for three years,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: all this equipment, and when this quarantine hit, I set
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: it all up and was like, well, I got this,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: this is it, this is it, and boom, here we are.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 6: Man.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: I just started just doing it and putting it out,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: and you edited.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: You did all the editing.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: I do the editing. I shoot it, I do the audio,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: I got the mics, I do the green screen, the
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: graphics and yeah, bro, more you can do. Man.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: I'm not that he is crazy.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 5: Man. That fires me up. I'm just like, funk, I
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: gotta know more, dude, I gotta do it.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: Took me an hour and a half to figure out
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: how to set up this mic. Plug it in, that's
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: all you gotta do.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: How the fun does this thing work?
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: You just plug it in? Thanks.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: I was sewing my head about the sketches too, man,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, because, like you said, you sit there with
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: it so long. You're like, Yo, this is the dumbest
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: thing I've ever done. It right, The jokes are terrible.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: I don't look like Dennis Robbin. You sound like an idiot.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: So I sent it to my brother and I was
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: just like, Yo, here's a sketch I did a couple
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: of days ago, like just to you know, let me.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: He was like, dude, why haven't you posted this? And
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: I'm like, what do you mean? He's yo, this is hilarious.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: I'm sitting here laughing like I don't even know.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: I was all right, and I'm literally excited to watch
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: the end of the video. You look at the thing
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: and it's Michael Jordan.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: Tell you go, who is this is so funny.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: Dude, I was the best teammate to ever live. That's
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: the funny that right now.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: Have you guys been watching Last Dance? Yeah, yeah, you'll
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: definitely appreciate you. Gotta check it.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 5: Yo. Hey, the last weekend when I saw Dennis come on,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 5: I legit sort of just kind of like that soft chuckle,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: just because all I was thinking about is your fucking video.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: Dude.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 5: That's so funny.
• 1:05:23
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• 1:05:27
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• 1:05:29
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• 1:05:42
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• 1:05:46
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