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Football at Four: Explaining True Value of Eagles Joint Practices · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 2: Like with the Eagles.
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  Speaker 1: But before we get there, we got inner squad practices
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  Speaker 1: and that's where Adam kaplan on his way joining us
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  Speaker 1: to Foxborough, Massachusetts as the Eagles and Patriots square off.
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  Speaker 2: Adam, how are you doing today.
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  Speaker 3: Josha, I'm well, hope you deal well. So I am
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  Speaker 3: driving to Boxborough, Massachusetts some halfway there for the Eagles
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  Speaker 3: joint practices. We're really going to get a better idea
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  Speaker 3: of where the Eagles are apt because they've got this
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  Speaker 3: brand new offensive scheme. Uh and we're gonna see the
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  Speaker 3: one versus the ones. We'll get into that what that
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  Speaker 3: looks like. But they're looking forward to it for two
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  Speaker 3: days of practice. You know, I've done it when there's
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  Speaker 3: been one. I've done it when they've been two, and
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  Speaker 3: it's always good get two days in.
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  Speaker 1: So explain to the audience who you know may not
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  Speaker 1: be as familiar with how this actually works, because I
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  Speaker 1: think understanding why teams do this and the value that
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  Speaker 1: comes from this. For why the Eagles and Patriots are
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  Speaker 1: getting together this week.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so a couple of things here. Nick Sirianni, the
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  Speaker 3: Eagles head coach, and Mike Braball, the Patriots head coach.
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  Speaker 3: They love get having these joint practices with their opponents
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  Speaker 3: in a particularly whether they're the road team or the
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  Speaker 3: home team, because they they really want to get an
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  Speaker 3: idea of whether players are at because instead of coming
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  Speaker 3: against your your own players all the time, they'd really
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  Speaker 3: like to see your your first team offense versus the
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  Speaker 3: opponent's first team offense. Now we'll get into the scripting
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  Speaker 3: of it and how you do it, because I've talked
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  Speaker 3: to coaches and put off with people about how they
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  Speaker 3: like doing these things. But it's it's real important for teams, Josh.
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  Speaker 3: They want to get an idea of where their teams
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  Speaker 3: are at and how they and how they want to
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  Speaker 3: do it going forward and how they adjust off of it.
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  Speaker 3: They want to see certain parts of their team and
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  Speaker 3: where it stands. And you can't really do it so
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  Speaker 3: much against your own people because they know your own plays.
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  Speaker 3: Whereas Mike Frable Eagles up first team offense, well, Vrabel's
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  Speaker 3: never seen it. He knows they run a West coast,
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  Speaker 3: but he has no idea what it's going to look like.
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  Speaker 3: Because Sean man has never caught plays before. See, he
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  Speaker 3: don't know what what it's going to look like. There's
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  Speaker 3: so much value and seeing how your first team offense
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  Speaker 3: does against the Patriots first team defense.
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  Speaker 1: How much value also is it, Adam, not just for
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  Speaker 1: the coaches, but for the players. You know, we heard
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  Speaker 1: Sean Manning yesterday talk about how, you know, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the offense was derieled in the first preseason game
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  Speaker 1: because of the penalties and guys not being on the
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  Speaker 1: same page. So talk about the importance for the players
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  Speaker 1: with these two days.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Josh, Actually, this is an important point you
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  Speaker 3: brought up. So let's look. The Eagles had seven offensive penalties, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: three of them killed three nice plays. Now what you
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  Speaker 3: do is now again, I was second third team offense
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  Speaker 3: in some of the fourteam offense, no starters. But the
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  Speaker 3: fact of matter is they had a bunch of mental
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  Speaker 3: errors from physical errors. Those two's could go up against
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  Speaker 3: the New England second team defense, they could actually run
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  Speaker 3: the same play. Because the practices are scripted, Josh, what
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  Speaker 3: will happen tonight, Mike Rabel and Nick Sirianni with your
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  Speaker 3: meet tonight or tomorrow morning, well before practice to run
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  Speaker 3: by their staff what they want to run, and New
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  Speaker 3: England could say, yes, we're good that or no, or okay,
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  Speaker 3: we like that. We ratther not do this? How about this?
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  Speaker 3: This is what coaches have told me. They have to
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  Speaker 3: run it by. They're all scripted and and we'll get
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  Speaker 3: into that in a minute. What that looks like. What
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  Speaker 3: kind of scripting it looks like? But there's no question
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  Speaker 3: there's tremendous value and make of those corrections because the
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  Speaker 3: Eagles backups on not just offense, Mike, defensively, excuse me, Josh,
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  Speaker 3: they made so many mistakes defensively. Did you see what
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  Speaker 3: the Ravens quarterbacks did against them?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I think that is a big part of it, Adam.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you what the Ravens did to the Eagles.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the Ravens on both sides of the ball
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  Speaker 1: looked really good for three quarters, and the Eagles looked
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  Speaker 1: like the team that you know is one of the
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  Speaker 1: worst teams of football. But then you got to remember
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  Speaker 1: you got third and four string guys in there, right, Adam.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly right. And one thing to understand, And I know
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  Speaker 3: it's hard because I so on our YouTube comments, people
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  Speaker 3: are really upset. I I understand, but understand, folks, It's
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  Speaker 3: not like going to get to the regular season eleven
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  Speaker 3: backups will be starting. It doesn't work that way. A
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  Speaker 3: lot of these guys will not even play on offensive defense,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of role play on special teams. Someone won't
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  Speaker 3: eveuild the football team, somebody in the practice squad. I
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  Speaker 3: understand that you're frustration and anger. I read the comments.
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  Speaker 3: We don't We don't comment a lot on our board. Well,
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  Speaker 3: you know, we monitor them for foul language, personal all
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  Speaker 3: that crazy stuff, but you know, we let people generally
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  Speaker 3: say what they want. But man, the frustration level, because
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  Speaker 3: I think what's happened here, Gosh, the offense has been
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  Speaker 3: intriguing in trading camp. It's been a little bit better
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  Speaker 3: than I expected from execution standpoints. Clearly up and down
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  Speaker 3: as we expected, but there's been a lot of good
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  Speaker 3: And when that when that when the fans actually get
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  Speaker 3: to watch it because they don't get into training camp
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  Speaker 3: Unlet's say, if a business relationship with Eagles or their
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  Speaker 3: season ticket holders, they don't select season ticket holders, they
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  Speaker 3: don't get to see practice. So they watched this game.
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  Speaker 3: The performances were terrible mostly and they're like, oh, this
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  Speaker 3: is ridiculous. So I feel you. But again, it doesn't
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  Speaker 3: really matter in the scheme of things. Just relax a
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  Speaker 3: little bit. I'll be there. Andrew Decheco is already there Boxboro.
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  Speaker 3: I'll join him tomorrow. We taught like it is. We
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  Speaker 3: don't sugarcoat anything. We try to give context.
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  Speaker 1: Adams just speaking to the offense for a moment with
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  Speaker 1: a new offensive coordinator. You mentioned before, a guy's never
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  Speaker 1: called plays in the NFL before.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think is going to be the.
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  Speaker 1: Biggest thing the Eagles want to get from these two
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  Speaker 1: days with Sean Mannion in the offense, UH, timing.
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  Speaker 3: Checktion, better limit the preset penalties, no doubt about that.
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  Speaker 3: You get off to a good start. Now. I don't
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  Speaker 3: have the Patriot ginger report, but like they're gonna see
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  Speaker 3: guys like as long as they're healthy, Milton Williams, Christian Gonzales,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of big time NFL talent, some very underrated
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  Speaker 3: players that new Land has in their defense. I remember
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  Speaker 3: talking to someone with the Patriots after the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 3: who said that Milton Williams in the final quarter of
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  Speaker 3: their season he dealt with I think a high ankles frame,
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  Speaker 3: but once he got healthy, he actually carried them some weeks.
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  Speaker 3: It's a phenomenal football player, obviously the Eagles know very well.
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  Speaker 3: And I just I would like to see Wix who
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  Speaker 3: obviously they held him out, and we don't know about
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  Speaker 3: DeVante Smith because he's just getting back to practice. He's
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  Speaker 3: been two weeks from the hamstring. Hopefully we'll see you
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  Speaker 3: a little bit of Johnny Wilson. You know they were
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  Speaker 3: down four receivers Eagles were in the preseason game. So
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  Speaker 3: you like to see a lot of these guys practicing.
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  Speaker 3: And then let's see how Hurtz does Josh against the
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  Speaker 3: first team defense. This is great. This is like the
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  Speaker 3: value that coaches get. And also, and I want to
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  Speaker 3: get into the scripting because that's really important. You want
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  Speaker 3: to see, also, Josh, the timing part about it. It's
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  Speaker 3: not like Vrabel and his defensive coaches has never seen
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  Speaker 3: the West Coast offense before. Then they're going to see that,
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  Speaker 3: but they don't know what type of one they're going
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  Speaker 3: to see.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so get you that out of it.
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  Speaker 1: Explain to the audience what you mean by scripting case.
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  Speaker 1: I think people they've probably seen like the concept, like
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  Speaker 1: on a HBO Hard Knocks or something, but they might
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  Speaker 1: not fully understand what that actually on a deeper level means.
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  Speaker 3: All right, So this is what coaches have told me
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  Speaker 3: over the years. They want to work on red zone,
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  Speaker 3: two minute, four minute goal line, certain personnel group ins.
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  Speaker 3: They want to see how the defense reacts, not their
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  Speaker 3: defense which they've ran and running their own practice. They
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  Speaker 3: want to see that by the way the Patriots went
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  Speaker 3: at thirty four. Egals run at thirty four, but they're
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  Speaker 3: running fantrio. They're running way more zone defense than man
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  Speaker 3: and their coverage responsibilities are different than the Patriots are defenses.
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  Speaker 3: So they want to see how the Patriots defense reacts.
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  Speaker 3: So they'll submit what they want to run to Vraybel.
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  Speaker 3: The Vrabel will go over with Sirianni. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that the coordinators will be there or not,
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  Speaker 3: but you know they'll want to go through this gosh,
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  Speaker 3: and they'll they'll talk about it. The Patriots will submit
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  Speaker 3: what they want to run, what they want to work on,
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  Speaker 3: and it'll be fun. And I cannot wait to see
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  Speaker 3: the Eagles first team defense and that phenomenal defensive line
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  Speaker 3: against just an okay Patriot offensive line, just okay, and
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  Speaker 3: Drake May who's a gunslinger and obviously a J. Brown,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, the the drama of that, it's gonna
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  Speaker 3: be kind of comical, you know. And and seeing Quinnon,
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  Speaker 3: he's seeing Quinnon, seeing Mitchell versus a J. Brown or
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  Speaker 3: well obviously will reequill and be on him. That's gonna
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  Speaker 3: be talking about matchups. That's gonna happen one way or
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  Speaker 3: the other. And Romeo Dobs, so I know they're really
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  Speaker 3: excited about and some of the interesting offensive talent and
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  Speaker 3: running back to Patriot sevn so lots of challenges and
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  Speaker 3: the scripting of how it's gonna look. It's gonna be very,
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  Speaker 3: very interesting.
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  Speaker 1: And speaking of the defense, Adam, you know, talk about
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  Speaker 1: who you're gonna be keeping eye on the defense side
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  Speaker 1: of the ball, because we know that even though Fangio
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  Speaker 1: he's established he's the play caller, we know what he is.
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  Speaker 1: But there are some guys, as you and I talking
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  Speaker 1: about on Friday, who are on this defense. They are
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  Speaker 1: fighting for roster spots.
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  Speaker 3: Oh good spot. Good point, because you know I was
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  Speaker 3: thinking I was Sophy Andrew earlier today. One of the
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  Speaker 3: biggest concerns that I have is the depth of corners
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  Speaker 3: not very good, Fanjo. Not that we didn't know this,
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  Speaker 3: We've told our Patreon members this five months ago. Vic
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  Speaker 3: Fanjo does not want de Jene playing corner. If you
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  Speaker 3: can help it now, Jonman Jones is hurt. We don't
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  Speaker 3: know when he's gonna be ready. Okay, you start practicing fully, Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Jacaran Bennetts heart he's not had a good camp. Mac
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  Speaker 3: McWilliams up and down camp. The Eagles quality of depthic
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  Speaker 3: corners are not very good. The Patriots can spread them out.
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  Speaker 3: The Patriots are like six deep at receiver. Well, if
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  Speaker 3: they run a lot of Leavin personnel gets the Eagles, Josh,
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  Speaker 3: that's not good. Like, I want to see how they
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  Speaker 3: react on your question. I'd love to see them spread
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  Speaker 3: them out. I want to because you know what if
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  Speaker 3: I'm Josh, if i am Vic Fango and Howie Roseman
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  Speaker 3: Eagles shower manager, I want to know the quality of
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  Speaker 3: my players going against my own players. I want to
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  Speaker 3: see how they play in practice against our guys. And
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  Speaker 3: there's no question this is a big deal. Really glad
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  Speaker 3: you brought it up that way. A great way to
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  Speaker 3: frame the question because they're going to learn about the
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  Speaker 3: depth of corner. Okay, yep. The addresh step Arnold Lebackhetty,
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  Speaker 3: they're really excited about, you know, playing him over four
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  Speaker 3: million fully guaranteed. And my guy Jay alex Son, who's
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  Speaker 3: been our number fifty eight, we're in Trent Cole's all number.
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  Speaker 3: He's been our guy since he was drafted. We've been
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  Speaker 3: high on him ever since he was drafted. We didn't
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  Speaker 3: to keep you this goodness early. I want to see
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  Speaker 3: how he goes against a team that was in the
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  Speaker 3: super Bowl last season, Josh, and that that's what makes
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  Speaker 3: this thing exciting. Should also mention to you, barring a
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  Speaker 3: major surprise, the weather's going to be good, so we're
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  Speaker 3: not going to have that problem. So this is gonna
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  Speaker 3: be fascinating, Josh, to see how it all plays out.
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  Speaker 1: And the other thing is Adam is not just you
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  Speaker 1: know who these specific guys are, but you're going against
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  Speaker 1: the quarterback who is extremely different than jillen Hurst.
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  Speaker 2: Drake May is not risk averse like Hurts.
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  Speaker 3: It No, he's very aggressive, he's a gunslinger. He's very athletic,
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  Speaker 3: he can run, he's big, he's coachable. From what I'm told,
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  Speaker 3: I am really looking forward to this man. And you
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  Speaker 3: know what, with Hurts, I've noticed this in some practices, Josh.
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  Speaker 3: He's made some throws where you go, wow, that's not
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  Speaker 3: him from last year. So let's just let's just let's
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  Speaker 3: just not assume that Hurts won't make those throws. I
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  Speaker 3: know that's last year. I get that in years past,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm I'm fascinated to see what happens here really, Am.
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  Speaker 2: And we will hear all about it after Day one.
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  Speaker 1: Tomorrow, Adam Cappel will join us for the next edition
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  Speaker 2: Adam, safe travels. Talk to you tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.