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7-07-26 Hour 3 - A deep dive on Sean Payton's psyche/Vic can't get enough!/ESPN's Top 10 players at each position · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: All right, let me ask you guys a question here,
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  Speaker 2: because Moses said during Oh by the way, there was
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  Speaker 2: a redraft of the twenty twenty four draft and Bonis
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  Speaker 2: was the fourth quarterback off the board, not the sixth,
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  Speaker 2: but he is still behind Drake may Haylea Williams and
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  Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels. Pexter says this, what has bo done to
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  Speaker 2: believe that he should be higher than fourth, the fourth
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  Speaker 2: quarterback in that draft. An article today from the Denver Post,
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  Speaker 2: Troy Rank and Parker Gabriel, we're talking about how sports
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  Speaker 2: books have set the over under for touchdown passes for
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  Speaker 2: Bonicks at twenty three to twenty four and a half.
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  Speaker 2: He has gotten over that number in each of his
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  Speaker 2: first two years, including twenty nine his first year in
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  Speaker 2: the league.
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  Speaker 1: And now he's got Jalen Waddles.
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  Speaker 2: It's seems to be something that a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: are asking, and it's one of those spots where bo
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  Speaker 2: Nicks is either not getting the respect he deserves or
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  Speaker 2: people think that the team is carrying Bo Nicks in
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  Speaker 2: one way or another. Nicks, But to say, what has
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  Speaker 2: Bo done to believe that he should be higher than
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  Speaker 2: the fourth quarterback in that draft? The answer to me
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  Speaker 2: is simple. He is easily the biggest winner out of
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  Speaker 2: any of them. He wins football games. They've won a
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  Speaker 2: tony what was it? What was he tied for like
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  Speaker 2: second or third most in NFL history for a quarterback
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  Speaker 2: in his first two seasons and wins. That counts for something.
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  Speaker 1: It absolutely does. Now Is it mitigated by the fact
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  Speaker 1: that most of the time, most of the time, the
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  Speaker 1: defense has been really kick ass. Yes, okay, so I
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  Speaker 1: think people probably figure that into the mix when they're
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  Speaker 1: thinking about it. But the guy, vic, he's one games man.
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  Speaker 1: He wins, you know what I mean. So that's that's
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  Speaker 1: God to account for something.
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  Speaker 2: It has to the thing about bon Knicks, And I'm
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  Speaker 2: telling you, if he can put together and hopefully it
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  Speaker 2: happens this year, a more consistent stretch of play in
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  Speaker 2: the first three quarters as he does in the fourth quarter,
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  Speaker 2: you're talking about one of the better quarterbacks in the league.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's something that every team virtually would
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  Speaker 2: sign up for. But there is hesitation with people surrounding
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  Speaker 2: bon Knicks, and I'm trying to figure out what that is.
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  Speaker 2: I have my own hesitations with Caleb Williams, and everybody
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  Speaker 2: seems bought in on him.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not.
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  Speaker 2: I've told you I don't trust a quarterback in this
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  Speaker 2: era of football that completes fifty eight percent of his passes.
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  Speaker 2: That's a terrible number. It was like thirty fourth in
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  Speaker 2: the league or something like that. Last year. His rating
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  Speaker 2: was still better than oh Nix though, true, but that's
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  Speaker 2: because he would supplement that with huge plays, and I
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  Speaker 2: think to a certain extent, that's what's happening with bon Nicks.
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  Speaker 2: He would have insane stretches of play for like ten
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  Speaker 2: to fifteen minutes with a lot of nothing else surrounding it.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know. I don't know how people did
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  Speaker 2: the evaluation.
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  Speaker 1: Tell you what's remarkable, Matt Stafford, at his age, is
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  Speaker 1: still the best year of his career. He's still under
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  Speaker 1: the I mean, the guy throw for forty six touches
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  Speaker 1: over forty seven hundred yards. I mean, that's a that's
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  Speaker 1: a hell of it. Led the league in radio. That's
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  Speaker 1: a hell of it. MVP season.
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  Speaker 3: Hey guys, I'm about halfway through this Sean Payton Opus
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  Speaker 3: by Seth Wickersham. Can I read you a paragraph that
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  Speaker 3: is pretty interesting?
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  Speaker 2: You know what?
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  Speaker 1: I woke up this morning. Go God, I wish Ifick
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  Speaker 1: would read to me.
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  Speaker 4: Please, I think it's interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you?
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  Speaker 2: Please do So.
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  Speaker 3: He's going through film to prepare for Buffalo in the playoffs,
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  Speaker 3: and he wants a fake punt, and he finds a
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  Speaker 3: fake punt that Troit pulled off in twenty nineteen, and
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  Speaker 3: he says, how can we mimic that? How can we
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  Speaker 3: do our own version? So now I will read straight
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  Speaker 3: from this quote. He had first seen the play a
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  Speaker 3: year ago, January twenty twenty five, when the Broncos faced
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  Speaker 3: the Bills in Buffalo during the Wildcard round. It was
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  Speaker 3: going to take a miracle to beat the.
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  Speaker 4: Bills that year. You remember that game?
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  Speaker 3: Obviously, Peyton watched seventy one fake punts looking for one
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  Speaker 3: to adopt and adapt.
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  Speaker 4: He entered the game with two of them.
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  Speaker 2: One was called Rutger's Special tweaked from that twenty nineteen
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  Speaker 2: Raiders game, which Peyton named after Broncos fullback Michael Burton.
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  Speaker 4: A scarlet Knight's graduate.
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  Speaker 2: The other one, Denver's punter, throws an outside pass to
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  Speaker 2: Buffalo's JaMarcus Ingram. Peyton had targeted Ingram after reading that
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  Speaker 2: he missed a practice that week due to the birth
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  Speaker 2: of his first child. Peyton called it baby shower and
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  Speaker 2: ran it in the second quarter for a first down.
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  Speaker 1: This is great. How can you now love this kind
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  Speaker 1: of stuff?
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  Speaker 2: Wait a minute, Wait a minute. The guy missed a
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  Speaker 2: practice because his baby was born and so so and
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  Speaker 2: Sean Payton, so he must be an idiot this week.
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  Speaker 1: This is awesome.
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  Speaker 3: Not only did he target him, he called the play
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  Speaker 3: baby shower.
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  Speaker 2: He punished a man for having sex.
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  Speaker 1: That's what he did. Hey, a lot of guys get
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  Speaker 1: punished for I thought you were gonna bring up the fact.
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  Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna be at the fact that
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  Speaker 1: that he wanted to run the fake punt in the team.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: Talked him out.
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  Speaker 2: We talked if you guys missed this from earlier.
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  Speaker 1: He talked about that already in his program.
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  Speaker 2: Sean Payton. In overtime of the Bills playoff game this year,
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  Speaker 2: the Broncos got a first down on the first play
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  Speaker 2: of overtime, then went three and out. After that, he
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  Speaker 2: was so nervis because the Broncos defense at that time
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  Speaker 2: gave up like four hundred and fifty yards of offense.
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  Speaker 2: They were they allowed ten third down conversions on fifteen
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  Speaker 2: attempts from bout.
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  Speaker 1: That's correctly already given up thirty points.
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  Speaker 2: They'd already given up thirty points. Sean Payton was convinced
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  Speaker 2: if Josh Allen got the ball back the game was over,
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  Speaker 2: that they were gonna lose. He calls a fake punt
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  Speaker 2: on fourth and eleven at his own thirty eight yard line,
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  Speaker 2: and the team goes out there and goes, this ain't
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  Speaker 2: gonna work, and they end up punting the ball anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Full dolphin, Then.
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  Speaker 3: So are you saying that the team, the players over
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  Speaker 3: overruled coach looked vick I was trying to find it
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  Speaker 3: in the article.
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  Speaker 2: This is what my my chat Beachy summary has said,
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  Speaker 2: is that it's called the vetoed, the overtime veto It
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  Speaker 2: is revealed Sean Payton called a risky fake punt on
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  Speaker 2: fourth and eleven in overtime, but the players famously ignored
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  Speaker 2: to call it. The line of scrimmage, ultimately saving the season.
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  Speaker 2: Is what it says. Now, I've been trying to find
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  Speaker 2: that in the article they started talking about FI punts
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  Speaker 2: and now I can't find where they're actually doing it.
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  Speaker 1: It's somewhere in that in that Warren piece.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that led to Josh Allen deep ball over
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  Speaker 2: the middle, and the play that Buffalo will argue to
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  Speaker 2: this day was the wrong call, which is Jacon McMillan
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  Speaker 2: getting the interception. Denver drives down the field, kicks a
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  Speaker 2: field goal.
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  Speaker 4: Game over right here?
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  Speaker 1: You ready, please, it's more reading.
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  Speaker 4: Here we go.
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  Speaker 3: The super Bowl is now real, and it took everything
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  Speaker 3: they had plans executed, and scrapped everything. We called the
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  Speaker 3: play Rutger's special fourth and eleven. Wait, Peyton called Rutgers
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  Speaker 3: special in overtime on fourth and eleven.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, we had the right look.
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  Speaker 2: The players vetoed it at the line of scrimmage, maybe
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  Speaker 2: saving Denver's season.
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  Speaker 4: I was so pissed. Peyton says it was perfect.
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  Speaker 3: He grabs my note book and starts drawing up how
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  Speaker 3: it would look on the field, which is how he
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  Speaker 3: drew it up all week. And although he's certain and
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  Speaker 3: clear and resolute, my mind drifts off, stunned and amazed
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  Speaker 3: and impressed and mildly terrified at his gall his ego,
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  Speaker 3: even his recklessness. Imagine his offseason if they'd lost in
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  Speaker 3: overtime because of a failed fake punt. Just then, Bo Lowry,
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  Speaker 3: the team's vice president of player health and Performance, enters,
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  Speaker 3: as he does every game. Peyton keeps explaining Rudgers special.
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  Speaker 3: Lowry looks oddly solemn. The whooping of music from the
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  Speaker 3: locker room seems loudy louder. Lowry holds a scrap.
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  Speaker 4: Of paper with a list of injuries on it.
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  Speaker 2: Guys on the side of these walls are dressed and showering,
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  Speaker 2: hugging their families, heading out for the night. Lowry rattles
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  Speaker 2: off a few notes and then hails bow. Lowry says
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  Speaker 2: bow Paint says fractured his ankle. He'll undergoes surgery on Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: And that was it for the fake punt talk. Huh,
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  Speaker 2: the well written article fourth and eleven, and he wanted
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  Speaker 2: a fake punt thirty eight when the players didn't run it.
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  Speaker 2: Thank god Ja Kwon McMillan came up with that pick five.
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  Speaker 1: Thank god the Bills had five turnovers in the divisional play.
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  Speaker 1: Five turnovers, but you know what, live one hundred yards
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  Speaker 1: of offense but five pos.
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  Speaker 4: This is what I love about.
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  Speaker 2: Sean Payton though he doesn't care what you think, what
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  Speaker 2: we think. He saw the play and he said it
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  Speaker 2: was going to work, and you know what, you gotta
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  Speaker 2: have that ability to take risks as a coach, you can't.
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  Speaker 4: I love it.
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  Speaker 1: It's made him a successful coach.
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  Speaker 2: Do what happens though, if what Wickersham said comes to
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  Speaker 2: fruition that they don't overrule the call, essentially they run
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  Speaker 2: the fake punt, it misses, and you lose about a
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  Speaker 2: minute later to some sort of you know, let's say
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  Speaker 2: Buffalo picks up a first down, kicks a field goal.
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  Speaker 2: What's the conversation then, yeah, you blew it? Well, I
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  Speaker 2: mean Sean Payton won. I mean, look, he's a guy
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  Speaker 2: who attempted an on side kick in a Super Bowl
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  Speaker 2: in a non on side situation. He's willing to do it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the most aggressive coach from your thirty eight, Well,
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  Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, vic, the most aggressive coach
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  Speaker 2: in the NFL is who Dan Campbell never kicks? He
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  Speaker 2: always goes one on fourth down. Who's his mentor who's
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  Speaker 2: his heat? Is a disciple of that Peyton. Hey, y'all,
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  Speaker 2: I'll be Sean Payton.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, we're running the Rutgers special here, all right, get ready,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna work. Got the great look for it. And
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  Speaker 1: the players say, seriously, I wonder like I love it.
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  Speaker 1: The line of scrimage, Chamberlain.
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  Speaker 4: Who at the line of scrimmage?
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  Speaker 3: This is where my curiosity gets the best of me
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  Speaker 3: because I want more details.
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  Speaker 4: So who says nah punt? Like? Who makes that call
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  Speaker 4: at the line of scrimmage?
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  Speaker 2: Who's terrified to run back to the sideline after you
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  Speaker 2: decided I'm going to go against the coach's wishes? How
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  Speaker 2: many times does that happen? By the way, this wasn't
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  Speaker 2: you know? If Peyton Manning over rules a play call
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  Speaker 2: at the line of scrimmage to a head coach, you
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  Speaker 2: might be like, well, it's Peyton Manning. He must have
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  Speaker 2: seen something. This is a special teams.
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  Speaker 1: Now, who's who? Who's who's making that decision?
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  Speaker 2: This is special teams going directly against the generals.
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  Speaker 1: Arn when everybody get in, everybody get in here. I
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  Speaker 1: don't care if the old man says, we're putting this ball?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah overru.
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  Speaker 1: Cannot get enough of that, Thank you, Nelly.
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  Speaker 2: So three oh three five four nine to two feet.
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  Speaker 1: As we roll on here, Vic, we haven't talked about
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  Speaker 1: this at all, but Jason Robertson is going to arbitration
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  Speaker 1: with the Dallas Stars. There are several players going to
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  Speaker 1: arbitration this year. I send out a tweet a couple
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  Speaker 1: of days ago when I found this out, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure it's this way in other sports, but my exposure
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  Speaker 1: to what has been in hockey, tration hearings in hockey,
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  Speaker 1: if it was me and I and I know what
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  Speaker 1: I know, it would be my absolute last reason, absolute
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  Speaker 1: last resort. Yeah, I've got one more, especially if I'm
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  Speaker 1: a player. I'll explain.
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  Speaker 3: I'll explaining, and I agree with you because you have
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  Speaker 3: some detail on this. When we come back, I have
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  Speaker 3: another just the intricacies of detail. I have another paragraph
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  Speaker 3: I have to read.
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  Speaker 2: All right, will continue to read.
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  Speaker 1: You're you're trying to kill me today, aren't you so good?
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  Speaker 1: You're trying to Ohjo Lombardi Kane back with you. Our
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  Speaker 1: three rolls on again with this guy. He's doing something.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what he's doing, but he's doing something important. Vic,
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  Speaker 1: you wanted to read your little Why don't you while
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  Speaker 1: we have this opportunity, why don't you read more of
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  Speaker 1: this dissertation to us, because we just can't seem to
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  Speaker 1: get enough of it.
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  Speaker 4: Again, it's very detailed.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it's very exciting stuff. It's it's great.
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  Speaker 3: I know you're being very facetious because you just refuse
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  Speaker 3: to read, but I'll do it for you. The detail
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  Speaker 3: in game planning that Sean Payton takes is I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I know a lot of coaches do this stuff, but
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  Speaker 3: this is crazy. So he wanted to call the game
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  Speaker 3: against Buffalo the Oxygen Tank Game. That's what he wanted
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  Speaker 3: to call it because he wanted to run his hurry
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  Speaker 3: up offense, his NASCAR package, use it intermittently, and get
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  Speaker 3: the Bills gassed in this game. So he told his assistant,
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  Speaker 3: We're going to call this the oxygen Tank game. I'll
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  Speaker 3: read from the article here by Seth Wickersham. He tells
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  Speaker 3: Paul Kelly's assistant to order one hundred or so small
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  Speaker 3: oxygen tanks to give to the team prior to the
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  Speaker 3: game with special labels. Pursuits like this, cheesy and earnest,
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  Speaker 3: are about more than giving the players an artifact to
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  Speaker 3: put in their bookshelves. More than about making memories, as
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  Speaker 3: Peyton says, it's about trying to orchestrate a feeling even
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  Speaker 3: before the outcome can genuinely generate it.
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  Speaker 2: And he's not done. He tells the video team to
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  Speaker 2: pull clips from movies where people suffocate in thin air.
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  Speaker 2: A few hours later, a folder hits his computer. He
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  Speaker 2: sifts through them, stops at one. It's from the movie Everest.
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  Speaker 2: At the Summit in Swirling Wind, a climber.
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  Speaker 3: Is about to die. His wife is called to say
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  Speaker 3: a final goodbye. Peyton has sold a few things. He
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  Speaker 3: wants headshots of Little Broncos pasted on that mountain with
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  Speaker 3: Levi Stadium in the distance. He wants the dying climber
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  Speaker 3: to have Allen's jersey number seventeen on his jacket.
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  Speaker 2: When they call home. He wants to splice in a
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  Speaker 2: clip of Hailey Steinfeld, the actress, and Alan's wife talking
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  Speaker 2: on the phone. Hours later, Peyton watches the new clip.
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  Speaker 2: He likes it, but adds one more note. He wants
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  Speaker 2: Harder to Breathe by Maroon five to play as it
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  Speaker 2: fades to black. All right, so he's a certified psychopath
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  Speaker 2: who gives a rats asss No, hang on sounds so good. No,
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  Speaker 2: I do care about this, Moser.
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  Speaker 1: You go and do whatever you gotta do today. This
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  Speaker 1: is one of the best articles I've ever read. He's
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  Speaker 1: really not saying.
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  Speaker 5: Even got Josh Allen's wife move This is awesome.
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  Speaker 2: He took a movie. He put Josh Allen in the
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  Speaker 2: movie of the man dying. When he talks to his wife,
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  Speaker 2: he said, make that Hailey Steinfeld, Josh Allen, that's crazy behavior.
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  Speaker 4: Oh but Moser doesn't want to learn more. He wants
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  Speaker 4: to sit in stupidity.
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  Speaker 1: We got a crazy head coach. He's turning over calling plays.
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  Speaker 2: Also, Harder to Breathe by Maroon five as it fades
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  Speaker 2: to black is a very upbeat song for somebody dying.
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  Speaker 5: You heard it, we hear it, and also not to
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  Speaker 5: nicol and dying. The music choice I personally would have
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  Speaker 5: gone with no Air Jordan's sparks, Chris Brown, How am
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  Speaker 5: I supposed to breathe with no Air?
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  Speaker 4: Come on? How do you know all these songs give me?
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  Speaker 2: Harder to Breathe by Maroon five. I guarantee you've heard this.
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  Speaker 2: If you've one song about is in the air tonight?
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  Speaker 2: If you've been to walk Rings, You've heard this song.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I've been to Walgreens.
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  Speaker 2: All I'm telling you is, if I'm trying. I've never
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  Speaker 2: seen the movie Everest, but if the scene is this
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  Speaker 2: man is he has no oxygen, he's about to die,
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  Speaker 2: he's easy, you know, final conversation he's gonna have with
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  Speaker 2: his wife before he croaks. And then this song comes on.
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  Speaker 6: Just a weird choice that made the black See what
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  Speaker 6: I mean, VIC, Can I read one more?
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  Speaker 2: Just wait now? Like queue it up at the chorus.
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  Speaker 2: Hang on a second. Here's what it would have sounded like.
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  Speaker 2: I suppose.
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  Speaker 1: Tell the kids that I love.
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  Speaker 7: Them every what is that?
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  Speaker 4: I think it's great.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you this right now. I maybe it's
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  Speaker 2: different if you're in the room. I always feel like
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  Speaker 2: these little quirky coaching things that they do. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think that would hit with me. I think I'd be like,
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  Speaker 2: this is kind of lame, to be.
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  Speaker 4: Honest, Like, I don't know, I don't know. You don't
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  Speaker 4: live it the game.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe every film session for a player gets boring and old,
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  Speaker 2: and maybe they want something like this. I like this too,
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  Speaker 2: So Peyton, confiding in seth Wickersham says he has a
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  Speaker 2: recurring dream, and he has trouble sleeping obviously in his
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  Speaker 2: recurring dream.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: And we talk about recurring dreams on this show. Here's
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: what happens.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: Quote, let's kickoff, cameras, fans, lights, buzz, national anthem. He's
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: late to the game. He's on a bike in his underwear.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: He pedals, but the bike won't move. He pedals harder.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: It goes nowhere. The game kicks off. He's finally on
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: the sideline. His offense is on the field, his quarterback
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: is looking for him. The call to play.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: He shouts the play, still in his underwear, but nobody
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: can hear him. His chest seizes up and he screams,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: thirty two lead, thirty two lead.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: And then he suddenly awakens.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: All right, you know what I'm with, Mosher, I've had
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: enough of the story. Like he's crazy, he's a crazy person. Wait,
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: so he's on a bike on the sideline, he's in.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: His underwear, and he bikes to the stadium.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: You can't get there in time. That's his recurring dream.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: We all have these dreams, right, don't you have dreams
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: about being late to your test? Nope, you don't have those.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: I don't have the dream of me being in my
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: underwear on a bike like I had a football game.
• 18:40
  Speaker 7: Oh my god.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: I've had the dream about being late to get my
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: final examined and I'm not dressed.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I can't find any clients.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I've had that dream before, absolutely, where I actually I
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: show up for finals but I haven't been there all semester. Yep,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: I've done that. I've also had a dream where I'm
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: outside the arena for some reason in the intermission and
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I can't get back up to do the do the game.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: I used to have when I was when I worked
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: in the news at Channel four, I used to have
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: this dream that I would go on set and I
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: didn't have my proper clothes on. I had a T
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: shirt and I forgot all my scripts and I just
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: spent like I'm just panicking, just total panic mode.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: That was always a dream. What do you dream about
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: if you don't have these dreams? Brat literally the stress
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: free life.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Literally.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: I think Vic, you could have made up all of
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: these stories. I think you could have made all of
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: these up. I don't think there's a story that Seth
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Wickersham could write in this article as crazy and outlandish
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: and exaggerated as it could possibly be, or I wouldn't
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: be like, Okay, well, I guess Sean Payton does that too.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Uh he went and he actually uh had them all
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: eat dog food after the first half, because you know
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: what I mean, Like, what else can he do?
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: The more I read this, the better it gets.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: All Right, Well, most you want to talk about Robertson, Well, sure,
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: I'll just say this. I only want to hear your
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: take about Robertson if you read it. I'm just kidding.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Go, So.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Robertson's it appears he wants to stay with the Dallas
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Jason Robertson.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: By the way, Jason Robertson, because again, you had the
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Seattle krack and ready to pay him big time money
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: if he would accept the deal, right, he wouldn't. He
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: wouldn't go there. So what's really weird about? I mean,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: they're gonna give him what fifteen per? He's looking for
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: fourteen per apparently, and the stars are like, we'll give
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: you a little over twelve. He's like, I ain't good enough.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: So he wants to be paid more than Ranton and
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: okay for a ninety six points season, forty five goals.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, the guy's a score, no doubt about it.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Good player, good player. But NHL arbitration. And again, I
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: don't know about baseball arbitration because I haven't lived in
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: that world. But I do know about NHL arbitration, and
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I'm sure it works the same. Anytime somebody goes to arbitration,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: it's the player's agent's job, and the player's usually in there.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Usually it's the player's agent's job to explain to the
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: arbiter why his client deserves or her client. That's an
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: easy job.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you all the reasons why my guy
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: is awesome. That's great, the weird parts of the other
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: side of the table, which is I want this player
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: on my team. But here's all the reasons why you
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: suck this.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, Vick. The job of the team,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: and they have to have one bulldog. The job of
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: the team is to get in there in front of
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: the arbiter and say, yeah, that's our player. We'd like
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: to pay him twelve million bucks a year, but let
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: me explain to you why he doesn't deserve one penny more,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: and they tear him down. Absolutely. It's that job. To
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: go in there and land base your own player, and
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: it creates hard feelings and it creates tension, and everybody's
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: an adult going into it. But I'll tell you this way,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: more often than not, these things are settled before they
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: walk in that room because everybody knows that everything's gonna
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: be laid out on the table and it ain't gonna
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: be fun. Yeah, because if you do actually do the
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: arbitration and laid out there for the arbiter to eventually
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: make a ruling, Dude, the team will absolutely nitpick every
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: aspect of your game. Sure, they're gonna bring up video
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: now you're not playing defense. They're gonna bring up video
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: where you screw it. They're gonna do all this kind
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: of stuff because they want to win, but they still
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: want you as a player. It's a very odd and
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: weird thing. So I don't know how it's gonna look.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna stay in Dallas or
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: what the story is going to be. My guess is
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: they will settle before they get into that room. That's
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: my guess.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I would assume so too.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: He'll accept the deal like at thirteen, you know, something
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: like that. Twelve point nine I mean, whatever it may
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: be is gonna stay in Dallas because he's already turned
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: down fifteen. Can we, uh, just just something to keep
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: an eye on?
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Can we set something up here? And Vick, you you
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: saw this is this Luca being asked on building his
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: best two on two team with him on It is
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: this what this question is.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: I don't know what the hell.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: This Q and A is, but this is Luca being
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: asked questions about specific players, and I don't know what
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: it is. I just know that he keeps answering.
• 23:27
  Speaker 8: One name ultimating two on two Shay Nikolajoki, Yuki, Yoki,
• 23:35
  Speaker 8: Ki Hi Yoki, Chile, Kevin Durant, Oki, O'Neil, yuk Okay,
• 23:42
  Speaker 8: Charles Johnson, Madriic Johnson, Hi Yoki, Chi k Lebron, James,
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: yuk Ki ChIL, Larry Birth, Larry Birth, Larry birth Al,
• 23:58
  Speaker 8: Michael Jordan, and Jordan Okay.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: So Jeorde's the best of all.
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: He went through.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: He went through every name of anybody in the league,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: and he stopped only when you got to Bird and
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Michael Jordan for talking about I guess who he would
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: take Jokic over.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Right, Yo, he's going your way. Well, Yokic your bluff
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: would And he finally gets to the bird, He's.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Like, did you guys know, by the way, because I
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: saw this is somebody dug up an old tweet the
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: night of the draft back in twenty eighteen Luca's draft.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Did you know the Nuggets had a trade package to
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: move up to number two to take him?
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: Yes, and very rejected, very well aware of that. Could
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: you imagine No, I couldn't.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Could you imagine?
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I could imagine it, and it would have been unreal
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: to have Luka Doncic available. Uh.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Gary Harris was involved in that trade package. Yeah, they
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: wanted they wanted Luca and it didn't work out.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: You know, there's did you get the other one I
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: sent you? Was it Powle Gasol? Who was asked, I
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: don't know if you got none of my blo?
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Wait? What year was he drafted?
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: Luca?
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah? He was drafted in eighteen?
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: Right? But yeah, eighteen, that was the draft that had
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: DeAndre Ayton.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Correct, that's right, and then didn't. But he wasn't drafted
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: by the Mavericks, right.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: Atlanta Hawks drafted him that they traded the rights to Dallas.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: There you go, Uh, yeah, I'm trying to find a
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: package centered around Gary Harrison. Two first round picks was
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: what it was gonna be.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it would have been worth it, obviously. Could you
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: imagine Luca and Joker on the same team. I mean,
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: my mind's blown right now. My mind is blown.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: So here's my other question.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: And I thought you'd have to surround them with a
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: ton of defense.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the uh we touched on this yesterday, but
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: I do think it's worth going back to. You said
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: something about the Celtics offering Jalen Brown for they wanted
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Murray or something. Did you repeat that what you said
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: yesterday to us? You were reading You weren't listening to me,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: were you yesterday? Stop reading Wickersham?
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: Stop stop?
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Jalen Brown? You said the Celtics did they offer the Celtics.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Celtics were.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Willing to listen to the Nuggets overtures, but the Celtics
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: wanted Murray and the Nuggets were unwilling to ship Murray.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Is that surprising to you? Well, I mean no, because
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: I told you all along if if the Nuggets had
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: traded Jamal Murray for Jaylen Brown, the Nuggets would have
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: no guards.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: Then what are we doing they need guards. They do
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: guard that I have a guard.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: They do.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: But my question became, or my mind went to this
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: place when Kronky said at that end of the season
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: press conference, everybody is on the table except for Jokic.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: That's what he said. He sent it into a microphone.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Everybody is available except for Jokic. What is Jamal available for.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: Jalen Brown.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Jalen Brown's an MVP candidate, like he is one of
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: the best players in the NBA. He is probably in
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: most people's books, Jalen Brown is a better player than
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Jamal Murray in most people's book.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: Probably. Did you see the number that?
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: And somebody tell me if I'm off base here, because
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: I just remember reading this, tell me Boston fans listening,
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: anybody associated with this.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: I believe the.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Number was in games in which Jalen Brown did not
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: play but the others did.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: The Celtics had an unreal record of like thirty six
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: and six. Look that up.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: So Natum is out, but Jalen Brown is leading the way. Yeah, no, no,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Jalen Brown is out. Oh he's out.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: They were nine to two last year when he was out.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, overall, look at what their record is without.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Jayalen Brown for the last four seasons. There were forty
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: seven and ten when he was out.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: Are you kidding me? It tells you all you need
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: to know. Wow, that tells you.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: That's really to know. That's really a that's really an
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: amazing stats.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: That sat alone tells you why the Celtics could live
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: without Jalen Brown. Forty seven and ten over four seasons
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: without him.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: In the game, That's that's an amazing stat.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Hang on, I ought to look upside else.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: What are you doing?
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: I want to see what the records of Paul George's
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: teams are with or without him. That's what I want
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: to see with Paul George. The Sixers last year when
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: twenty two and fifteen without him, there are twenty three
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: and twenty two. Okay, they were worse without him. So
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: the Celtics looked at Jalen Brown in his fifty two
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: million dollars salary and said, what are we doing?
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: We're better without him? Crazy, that's a.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Tough assumption to make.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: The numbers are the numbers, okay?
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I mean the Nuggets were okay when Jokis was out
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: of the lineup. I don't prefer it. I don't think
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: that's sustained over the course of a year. Maybe maybe
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: it was a cool month. I don't know.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: I mean I would Yeah.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Look, here's my question surrounding Jamal What what am I
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: supposed to think of Jamal Murray? Because I'm pretty confused.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Jamal Murray is somebody that every year was undervalued until
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: the post or I'm sorry, overvalued until the postseason started,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: and then he was incredibly undervalued in the last couple
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: of years. It feels like flipped. He was undervalued during
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: the regular season and overvalue during the postseason.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: What you're asking is, has the rest of the league.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Has the league figured out Jamal Murray? Just throw a
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: very big, lanky body on him and you can take
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: him out of the game.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Isn't that the end? Yeah? But okay, So if that's
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: the case, Vic, and again he got double teamed a
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: lot too. If that's the case, then figure out a
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: way to help him.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: You can figure out if if he's gonna score the
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: way he did this regular season and be be an
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: All Star, figure out a way to to help you
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: all different Nuggets.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: The Nuggets played seven games without Jamal Murray this year.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: What was the record seven games without Jamal Murray? He
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: only missed seven games. I will say they were five
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: and two.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: I'll say five and two, six and one.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: You know they get any assumptions on that time.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: Big enough. I mean, it's not scary.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: And again they will shift their style of play when
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: he's out in the big fellow, tell me in those
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: in those seven games, what were the joker numbers? I
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: don't Okay, Well, then.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: I brought up I brought this up, and I think
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: it's a valid question. I know it's a hypothetical.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: But you picked the series against Minnesota where the two
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: guys you were missing, the two injured players, the worst
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: possible series to miss.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: If I gave you the option a G and Peyton
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: Watson play, Jamal sits. Which option would you take in
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: the Minnesota series?
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: AG and Watson play.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: Yes? Would you take that option? Yes?
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: I would?
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Why wait, wait, wait, do that one more time. So
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Jamal played a G and Watson sat y. I turned
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: that around. AG and Watson are available, Jamal is not.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, give me the benefit of hindsight. I watched
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: what happened in the previous one. They lost in six.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: I'll take my chances with the second But why though,
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Easy to say because because you're putting two players on
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: the floor. The Minnesota Timberwolves without those guys figured out
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: a way to slow Marae down as much as possible
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: and change his game. Okay, So if you take that
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: out of the equation, you know what, what can Watson
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: and ag do? I mean, are they going to be
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: able to match up better against Minnesota with those guys
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: in the lineup as opposed to just having only Murray
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: in the lineup?
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: I think the one series where you can ill afford
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: to be without athleticism, length and defense was that series. Agree,
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: those two guys represent the best of what the Nuggets
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: had the great categories.
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  Speaker 2: I swear to God, if you're gonna read to me again.
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  Speaker 4: Listen to me.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Very rarely do I go here where I don't care
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  Speaker 2: what anybody that's listening thinks.
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  Speaker 3: I don't care what anybody who works here thinks. I
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  Speaker 3: don't care what Kevin Shockey thinks. I don't care what
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  Speaker 3: you think. I don't care what my wife thinks. I
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  Speaker 3: don't care. Let's information and in detail is so damn good.
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  Speaker 3: This little piece of information from this article that I'm
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: about to give you guys, makes me absolutely love it.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Vic. Let's be honest. Every day you don't care what
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: anybody thinks. Every day you're on Brett's ass, you're on
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  Speaker 1: I love it.
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  Speaker 4: You ready.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: On game day, Sean Payton arrives five hours early. He
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  Speaker 3: drives from the team hotel in his black Benz, sometimes
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: slowing down if he sees opposing fans rolling down the
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: window and yelling to those fans you guys suck, just
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: to see their faces when they wonder if that was
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: actually him doing that. Well, a guy who looks like
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  Speaker 2: Odd, I gotta be honest. He sounds like a psycho.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: You gotta have a psycho, dude.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: Don't you know this by now? Coaches are psychos.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't you know the hours they put in?
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: Huh, they're all psychotic?
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Are you crazy? No?
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: I'm arguing that I'm not the crazy one, that I'm
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: actually the normal one in this scenario.
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  Speaker 4: I love this.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, all these years of me ripping on a
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: posing fan bases, I thought it was all for not.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: I thought, Vic, what are you doing?
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: Why are you doing? The head coach is doing it
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: in his car. It's awesome.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm just thinking about if I was competing against
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Sean Payton in something. Is he gonna run video of
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: me dying and having my last conversation with my wife?
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Is that gonna be on some hard drive somewhere? Can
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: you manage what you do?
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: Know what?
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: No, No, you know what to do.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna video you every day and then I'm gonna
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: go to Elly. You run back, find find Brett in agony. Okay, fine,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: find Brett struggling this kind of thing, and I'm just
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: gonna replay that constantly, just because just because it's fun.
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  Speaker 2: That's what.
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  Speaker 5: Videotape of your struggle.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: If if the Broncos are hosting the Lions one day
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: and you're walking in the stadium with your Lions gear
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: and Troy and family are there just to enjoy a
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: game in Mile High and as you're approaching the stadium,
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: a dude drives by and his bends rolls down the
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: window and says, hey, you losers, and it's Sean Payton, and.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: We have that.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Sean Payton just call us loser.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: No, no, you know what my reaction is.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: That's what.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: But I'm a Broncos fan. So if I'm a Broncos fan,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: so I wouldn't do that. But let's say Let's say
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: we're an opposing city and Jim Harbaugh, let's say we're
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: in l A. Broncos fans everywhere Hardball is driving to
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: the driving to the stadium, right, yeah, he goes, Hey,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: you bunch of orange clad losers.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: If you all of you that are texting and saying
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: we don't care, I don't care. I don't care if
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: you don't care. Here's the difference about care. I don't
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: care if you don't care.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: I think that's it's been a parent since the program
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: started today. You don't care if I care. You don't
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: care what I think. You don't care what Brett thinks.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: You don't care what the listeners think. You only on
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: this particular topics and a lot of other topics. You
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: only care what you think.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: That's amazing detail that needs to be disseminated to the public.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Can I ask you, guys one other question on the
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: subject to the Broncos. So ESPN, this is around that
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: time of year, we're getting close to training camp. So
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: the NFL is gonna have your top one hundred coming
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: out and ESPN is doing the top ten players at
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: every position. Patser Tanner was cornerbacks today Patsar Tann was
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: number one. That is not surprised on I do have
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: one question, and they ranked the top ten running backs
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: in the league. Now, I don't think it's a surprise
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: that the Broncos don't have a running back on this list.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: But in the honorable mention category, Javonte Williams is on there,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: so outside the top ten. But former Broncos running back
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Gavante Williams.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Wait, are you saying he's an honorable mention?
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: He's an honorable mention? Yes?
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Does it bother you? Are you so?
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: Are you asking? In a roundabout way? Did the Broncos
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: give up on it too early? Kind of?
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think they did. I would have
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: done the same thing they did. But at the same time,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: he just ran for twelve hundred yards at about four
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: point eight a pop.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: Eleven touches.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, But does he also get gloss because he's
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: a Dallas cowboy?
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: I think he was used differently.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Well, No, he's productive. I mean, yes, he's a cowboy,
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: but he's Oh, how many guys ran for tweve hundred
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: yards last year?
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: How many guys? God? I shuddered to think, what would happen? Hey,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Sakuon Barkley's you're running back for the Denver Broncos. Sean Payton,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Are you running at football or you're gonna throw it
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: thirty five times again? I mean, you know, I don't know.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: I'll give you one striking d Let's see what Webb
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: will do here. I'll give you one striking detail. Javonte
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Williams in twenty twenty four, the year before he left
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: for Dallas, he played in all seventeen games. He had
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty nine rush attempts. Last year he
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: played in sixteen Dallas in two hundred.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: And fifty two, so it's almost twice as many. Pretty
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: damn close, almost twice as many.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: So maybe something to it. Then commitment to run game
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: thing whatever. I will say he did a lot better
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: job at committing to JK. Dobbins last year before he
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: got hurt. But you need to have a running game.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: You have to.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: You look at these top tens, I mean, which.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Is why they also took a back early in the draft.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Top ten backs in the league. By the way, do
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: you know, take a guess who was one in two
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: because this is now a shift and.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Let me think about that. You're wrong, by the way,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: he's number three. How about uh? Was Derek Henry still
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: on the list?
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Derek, Derek Henry's on the list? He's not one or two?
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Is it Buffalo Cook?
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Not James Cook? James Cook is number seven, Henry's number three.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: B Jean Robinson is number one in the kay okay
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: number two, same draft, Jamira Gibbs.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, listen, those are two guys.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: By the way that, I think almost every single talking
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: head during that draft who said running backs or dime
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: a dozen, You don't spend first round picks on running
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: backs criticize both Atlanta and Detroit for taking both of
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: those guys. Are now the two best at their position.
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: Me too, Me too.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: This year's draft coming back there. It's the tide is
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: slowly rising again. Hey, y'ah. When we first talked after
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: that draft and I saw your boy in the early going,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: what did I say when you saw what Tamir? I
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: I can't remember what did you say. I don't remember
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: what you said last segment, let alone years ago.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: I remember what you said. You read the friggin article
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: for the eighty seven time in a row. I said
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: this kid is going to be a stud and he
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: is man that Jean, Well, Jean's great. But I'll tell
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: you what man, you give me Jamiir Gibbs all day,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: every day, also all night, see the daytime is a given, Brett.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but also also all night Yeah that too. All right,
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: A couple of minutes left here, Nelly, can we get
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: a fact checker?
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Nelly monitors the mistakes in today's fact checker. Fact Checker
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• 41:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, here's a fact for you.
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: A man by the name of Jason Bridgeman is going
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: to the Rocky Mountain Cigar Festival.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: Congrat JB.
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: Also, I guess this is kind of a on the
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: spot fact checker. Right now, they have the the World
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: Cup game happening in Atlanta, Argentina's all on the field there,
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: the cameras showing messy about a thousand times. Ants brought
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: out the game ball Anthony Edwards and I had no
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: idea that he was originally from Atlanta and therefore the
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: games being played in Atlanta. That's why they had him
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: be the guest of honor. But Berto and I both
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: looked up and said, I think is Anthony Edwards bringing
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: out a.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Why would they have somebody from the Hawks or something?
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Well, he went to Georgia. I mean he went to Georgia.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: He's bulldogs from there. That makes sense to me.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Oh man, if we had a guy from Denver, Uh,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: never mind, I don't know. It's it's end.
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: It's gonna be crazy.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: I guess from Denver. Yeah, okay, and we had a
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: game here blah blah blah from.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Denver went to see you. You don't think that's good
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: enough to like be a part of the community.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it is. Yeah, he played for the Hawks.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Would make a lot more sense. Okay, And you know what,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't rule it out before his career was done.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: How about that?
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: Why would you make that useless prediction? Right now, Fox
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: felt like the right time felt good.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Vic.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: If you want to know how long this article is,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Vic has not paid attention to this show now for
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: the last hour and fifteen minutes. More than more than that,
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: he has stayed staring at his computer.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Squad and he's still not through it, and he's still long.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: I've read the Bible in less time than this.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: iTunes Spotify mos Lombardy in Kane. I wonderful.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: This quicker than this thing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a wonderful Tuesday. We'll talk to you tomorrow. Let
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: you see it.