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- 0:04Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns have not swept the Pittsburgh Steelers in
- 0:07Speaker 1: a regular.
- 0:08Speaker 2: Season since 1988.
- 0:10Speaker 1: Top movies back in 1988, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Die Hard,
- 0:14Speaker 1: George H.W. Bush was elected the 41st president of the
- 0:18Speaker 1: United States 12 days prior. The Steelers after that game
- 0:21Speaker 1: fell to 2-10 on the season, which was tied for
- 0:24Speaker 1: the worst record in the NFL. And Aaron Rodgers was
- 0:28Speaker 1: four years old. back in 1988, the only active Steeler
- 0:32Speaker 1: or Brown player alive at the time. And I venture
- 0:35Speaker 1: to guess that Brian Bacco and our guest, Ashley Bastok,
- 0:39Speaker 1: might not have been alive either in 1988. I'll let
- 0:42Speaker 1: them confirm that. I was eight years old at the time,
- 0:44Speaker 1: so I was definitely alive. But Ashley, joining us from
- 0:48Speaker 1: Cleveland.com once again. Ashley, were you alive? And B, how
- 0:51Speaker 1: are you?
- 0:53Speaker 2: I'm good.
- 0:53Speaker 3: I'll answer the second one first. I was not alive.
- 0:56Speaker 3: I was born in November of 92. So, yeah, this
- 1:00Speaker 3: has not happened in my lifetime. And that's not an exaggeration.
- 1:03Speaker 4: Yeah, I wasn't alive either. Ed and hi, Ashley. Thanks
- 1:06Speaker 4: again for coming on. And what was running through my
- 1:08Speaker 4: mind for some reason was Jay-Z was still probably four
- 1:12Speaker 4: or five years away from releasing his first album. But
- 1:16Speaker 4: that almost doesn't seem like that much of a stat
- 1:19Speaker 4: because he's still going to be hosting the Super Bowl
- 1:21Speaker 4: halftime show. So he's kind of the Aaron Rodgers of rap,
- 1:24Speaker 4: I guess. He's still going, and well, I guess we'll
- 1:27Speaker 4: see if he's still going strong.
- 1:28Speaker 1: Ashley, the last time we talked to you, it was
- 1:31Speaker 1: before the Thursday night game, before the Steelers and Browns
- 1:35Speaker 1: met for the first time this season. Of course, the
- 1:37Speaker 1: Browns win that game in dramatic fashion right at the end.
- 1:39Speaker 1: It was a great game back and forth. The Steelers
- 1:42Speaker 1: came back in the fourth quarter, fell short. Cleveland gets
- 1:44Speaker 1: the win, and the Browns have been on fire since.
- 1:46Speaker 1: They're now 5-2 on the year, just like the Steelers are.
- 1:50Speaker 1: Are you surprised by this 5-2 start after seven games?
- 1:53Speaker 1: What's the vibe in Cleveland right now that people have
- 1:55Speaker 1: to be going crazy, I would think?
- 1:58Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm definitely pleasantly surprised as I get
- 2:02Speaker 3: some wind here in Cleveland.
- 2:03Speaker 2: Very typical for this time of year. I was pleasantly surprised.
- 2:07Speaker 3: You know, when the season started, I said I felt
- 2:09Speaker 3: like this team ceiling was sort of in the eight
- 2:13Speaker 3: to nine win range. And I think a lot of
- 2:16Speaker 3: people felt like that was even too optimistic. We know
- 2:20Speaker 3: Vegas had their win total set at five and a half.
- 2:24Speaker 3: So it's been certainly a pleasant surprise and it's the
- 2:29Speaker 3: way they keep winning. I mean, obviously this game between
- 2:31Speaker 3: these two teams last time really came down to the wire,
- 2:35Speaker 3: but every Browns win has been because Deshaun Watson in
- 2:39Speaker 3: this offense has have had a game-winning drive in the
- 2:42Speaker 3: fourth quarter, so they've all been kind of dramatic, too.
- 2:46Speaker 4: Yeah, Ashley, and I was going to say, I mean,
- 2:48Speaker 4: part of that was the Steelers game. It's kind of
- 2:51Speaker 4: wild how that one played out, and now they'll get
- 2:53Speaker 4: a chance to quickly, relatively speaking, turn around and wipe
- 2:57Speaker 4: away those frustrations. You know, I was going to ask you,
- 3:02Speaker 4: Jared Verse has really been making a lot of headlines
- 3:05Speaker 4: this week, and I guess Cam Hayward kind of returning
- 3:08Speaker 4: fire a little bit. I mean, What's your read on him?
- 3:11Speaker 4: Because obviously our exposure to him is only in the
- 3:15Speaker 4: Steelers-Browns context. Do you think he came into this knowing
- 3:18Speaker 4: this rivalry is a big brother, little brother thing, and
- 3:20Speaker 4: he was determined to be an antagonist in a leadership way?
- 3:25Speaker 4: Or was he actually genuinely miffed by some of the
- 3:28Speaker 4: chippiness from that first game about a month ago?
- 3:31Speaker 2: I think he was genuinely miffed.
- 3:33Speaker 3: We asked him again today, and of course we asked
- 3:36Speaker 3: him after the game when he described what he viewed
- 3:40Speaker 3: as dirty things happening from the Steelers. And after the game,
- 3:45Speaker 3: he wouldn't say. Today, he still wouldn't say. So he
- 3:48Speaker 3: didn't want to get into details, but he was standing
- 3:51Speaker 3: by that. Whatever he felt like happened was dirty in
- 3:55Speaker 3: his mind. And, you know, I think, though, the thing
- 3:57Speaker 3: with Jared, that being said, like, Jared Verse loves to talk. Like,
- 4:02Speaker 3: he does not shut up. And there were so many
- 4:05Speaker 3: days in training camp where that was, like, all you
- 4:07Speaker 3: heard the entire practice.
- 4:10Speaker 1: And.
- 4:10Speaker 2: One of the more.
- 4:12Speaker 3: Famous moments from this year's training camp was when Jared
- 4:16Speaker 3: Burse and rookie left tackle Spencer Fano came to blows.
- 4:21Speaker 3: And I think it was the second week, maybe like
- 4:23Speaker 3: day nine or 10 of camp. So kind of those
- 4:25Speaker 3: dog days. And Spencer like kind of just got sick
- 4:28Speaker 3: of hearing Jared talk and having a power rusher come
- 4:32Speaker 3: at you the same way basically every day. So they
- 4:35Speaker 3: came to blows. It won Spencer the left tackle job.
- 4:37Speaker 3: Todd Munkin really liked that. But yeah, Jared Burse and
- 4:40Speaker 3: Quincy Williams, the linebacker, are the two guys on this
- 4:43Speaker 3: defense that just don't ever stop talking when they're out there.
- 4:46Speaker 3: But I do think, that being said, Jared was genuinely
- 4:49Speaker 3: bothered by something that happened in the game.
- 4:52Speaker 2: What it is, I've tried to find out, and I
- 4:54Speaker 2: still don't know.
- 4:55Speaker 4: Well, I hate to say it, but when it comes
- 4:56Speaker 4: to Browns pass rushers and Steelers, there's a little bit
- 5:00Speaker 4: of history of, I don't know if boy who cried
- 5:02Speaker 4: wolf is the right way to phrase it, but Let's
- 5:05Speaker 4: hope that nothing spills over quite that much and it's
- 5:07Speaker 4: just a normal physical game between these two teams and
- 5:11Speaker 4: nothing beyond the pale.
- 5:12Speaker 1: We're talking with Ashley Bastock from Cleveland.com. We talked to
- 5:16Speaker 1: Ashley before the first meeting between the Steelers and the
- 5:18Speaker 1: Browns on that Thursday night game. The rematch this Sunday
- 5:21Speaker 1: at Accuture Stadium. A lot on the line. First place
- 5:24Speaker 1: by themselves, the winner between the Browns and the Steelers
- 5:27Speaker 1: this Sunday. That's where they will be in the AFC North.
- 5:30Speaker 1: Ashley Bastock. Two players on offense have really shined so far,
- 5:34Speaker 1: the two rookies, Denzel Boston and Casey Concepcion. They're one
- 5:38Speaker 1: and two among rookie wide receivers. The Steelers rookie wide receiver,
- 5:41Speaker 1: Jeremy Bernard, is fourth in the NFL. Both these two
- 5:45Speaker 1: have really turned it on, especially late. We know Concepcion
- 5:48Speaker 1: coming off a huge game against the Titans. Your thoughts
- 5:52Speaker 1: so far on these two rookie wide receivers? They have
- 5:55Speaker 1: a good tight end too, you guys, with the Browns,
- 5:57Speaker 1: with Harold Fannin Jr., also with three touchdown catches so
- 6:00Speaker 1: far this year.
- 6:00Speaker 3: Yeah, they have this core of young pass catchers, and
- 6:04Speaker 3: I think it's been helpful because they've kind of come
- 6:06Speaker 3: along at different times. So Denzel Boston was the guy
- 6:10Speaker 3: who started hot immediately, and that was kind of how
- 6:13Speaker 3: training camp went for him too. But as he got
- 6:16Speaker 3: more attention, I think he's kind of slowed down a
- 6:18Speaker 3: little bit, but I don't know how much of it
- 6:20Speaker 3: is attention versus some of these other guys have just
- 6:23Speaker 3: gotten going. And I think obviously in the Steelers game,
- 6:26Speaker 3: he had that one long pass. I think it was
- 6:27Speaker 3: the 60-yard reception for him there. So he is that
- 6:31Speaker 3: typical X profile, explosive catch kind of receiver. Casey Concepcion
- 6:37Speaker 3: is smaller. Like Denzel Boston's the biggest guy in the room.
- 6:39Speaker 3: He's like six, four. He's the biggest receiver I think
- 6:42Speaker 3: they've had in my time covering the team. But Casey
- 6:46Speaker 3: is that smaller profile and he just can do a
- 6:49Speaker 3: bit more. You know, I think the Browns really consider
- 6:51Speaker 3: him a huge part of that auxiliary run game. Todd
- 6:54Speaker 3: Munkin talked A lot about that this week. So that's
- 6:57Speaker 3: not just touches on the ground, which he can do.
- 7:00Speaker 3: It's his ability in the short pass game as well.
- 7:03Speaker 3: And I really felt like this past week against the
- 7:05Speaker 3: Titans was Harold Fannin's first game where he got going.
- 7:08Speaker 3: So he had to have a procedure on a groin
- 7:12Speaker 3: injury he suffered actually in week 17 last year against
- 7:15Speaker 3: the Steelers that kept him out of the finale in Cincinnati.
- 7:18Speaker 3: And he missed most of the offseason program. He was
- 7:21Speaker 3: back for training camp, but he didn't do a ton.
- 7:23Speaker 3: And I do find like when you have these younger
- 7:25Speaker 3: players and they miss a significant chunk of the offseason,
- 7:28Speaker 3: I think it maybe takes them a little bit.
- 7:30Speaker 2: To get back up to speed.
- 7:31Speaker 3: I think we saw that with Harold, but I do
- 7:33Speaker 3: think he did a lot more this past week against
- 7:36Speaker 3: the Titans.
- 7:37Speaker 4: It seems like guys tend to miss at least one
- 7:39Speaker 4: game when they have a head injury in the previous game.
- 7:41Speaker 4: So are we kind of widely expecting DeJuan Jones to
- 7:45Speaker 4: be back out there at right tackle? And if so,
- 7:47Speaker 4: how did Jones look in training camp and preseason? Because
- 7:51Speaker 4: obviously the big fella from Ohio State has started in
- 7:53Speaker 4: these Steelers matchups before. but lost his job coming into
- 7:56Speaker 4: this year to a combination of new acquisitions and, you know,
- 8:00Speaker 4: maybe new coaching staff wanting to go a different way
- 8:02Speaker 4: at that spot.
- 8:02Speaker 3: Yeah. So Titus Howard did not practice again on Thursday. So,
- 8:07Speaker 3: I mean, we know that the turnaround is getting tight
- 8:10Speaker 3: to clear that protocol. Part of the concussion protocol is
- 8:12Speaker 3: obviously going through actually practicing and making sure you don't
- 8:16Speaker 3: have symptoms for like a I feel like right now
- 8:21Speaker 3: it's trending towards we are going to see DeJuan Jones.
- 8:24Speaker 3: That's who has replaced Titus in both of the games
- 8:26Speaker 3: where he got injured this past week with the concussion.
- 8:29Speaker 3: And then DeJuan also played against the Jets in week
- 8:32Speaker 3: five when Titus left with a knee injury. But that
- 8:35Speaker 3: didn't cost him any time other than that game.
- 8:37Speaker 2: So DeJuan, yeah, he was in the mix.
- 8:40Speaker 3: Like I honestly felt like DeJuan Jones was going to
- 8:42Speaker 3: come into training camp and they were going to just
- 8:44Speaker 3: be working him as a swing tackle from the jump.
- 8:48Speaker 2: And that wasn't the case.
- 8:49Speaker 3: Like he was fully in competition for the starting left
- 8:52Speaker 3: tackle job, which. I think it's a testament to him
- 8:54Speaker 3: because Spencer Fano is the guy that they.
- 8:56Speaker 2: Drafted number nine overall.
- 8:58Speaker 3: And they were very adamant when they drafted Spencer that, no,
- 9:02Speaker 3: he wasn't moving inside. No, he wasn't moving to the
- 9:05Speaker 3: right side. He's going to be our left tackle of
- 9:07Speaker 3: the future. So DeJuan came back. I think this is
- 9:09Speaker 3: the leanest he's been by far. And he said he
- 9:13Speaker 3: definitely felt better in this last game against the Titans overall.
- 9:17Speaker 3: than in the Week 5 game against the Jets. I
- 9:21Speaker 3: believe he got credited for a sack and three pressures
- 9:24Speaker 3: in that Jets game. He allowed three pressures this past game,
- 9:27Speaker 3: but they were all hurries, I believe. So he looked better. And, yeah,
- 9:32Speaker 3: I mean, I think I would expect him right now
- 9:36Speaker 3: to be the guy. And, of course, as you alluded to,
- 9:38Speaker 3: his first ever NFL start came in that Monday night
- 9:41Speaker 3: football game in 2023. And he had to hold off
- 9:46Speaker 3: TJ Watt and did like a pretty good job of it.
- 9:48Speaker 3: I don't think he gave up a sack in that game.
- 9:51Speaker 3: I know he got a Baldi's breakdown after that game
- 9:56Speaker 3: that he was really excited about. So he certainly has
- 9:58Speaker 3: experience playing in Pittsburgh. and being kind of thrown into
- 10:01Speaker 3: things out there.
- 10:02Speaker 1: We're talking with Ashley Bastock of Cleveland.com, Brown's beat reporter
- 10:07Speaker 1: there in Cleveland. Both Ashley and Brian joining us from
- 10:10Speaker 1: both the Steelers and Brown's facilities here. Practice late in
- 10:14Speaker 1: the week. You can hear our train in the background
- 10:16Speaker 1: for one of the two of you. I'm guessing that's
- 10:17Speaker 1: Brian because I know where the Steeler facility is. And, Ashley,
- 10:20Speaker 1: I'm guessing, is that you with the train? Yeah, we
- 10:23Speaker 1: have a train right across the street. You can hear
- 10:25Speaker 1: it in, like, all our podcasts. There went the whistle.
- 10:27Speaker 1: You can hear it in all our podcasts and videos.
- 10:30Speaker 1: We always make jokes about it. Did you just do, like,
- 10:32Speaker 1: the toot-toot thing? I should have. That was right on cue. Brian,
- 10:37Speaker 1: the Steelers facility is right next to our railroad track, too,
- 10:39Speaker 1: so there's something in common with the Browns and Steelers.
- 10:41Speaker 1: Go ahead, Brian.
- 10:42Speaker 4: There's a train going behind me, too, right now. Pittsburgh
- 10:45Speaker 4: and Cleveland. What's like the football cliche? They're on parallel
- 10:50Speaker 4: tracks right now?
- 10:51Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 10:52Speaker 4: Or they're on the same track, and they're about to
- 10:54Speaker 4: meet in the middle Sunday at 1 p.m.
- 10:56Speaker 2: You've got to love it.
- 10:57Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody has a construction vehicle, too, going on between
- 10:59Speaker 1: one of the two of you. It might be Ashley, too.
- 11:01Speaker 1: A lot more activity in Cleveland. There's wind there right
- 11:04Speaker 1: off the lake. Ashley, what's the latest on Mason Graham?
- 11:08Speaker 1: He got hurt during that Steelers game, has four sacks
- 11:10Speaker 1: on the season. They were early on in the season.
- 11:12Speaker 1: Is he healthy? Is he playing at 100%? What's the
- 11:14Speaker 1: latest on Graham?
- 11:15Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, he returned this, you know, these past
- 11:18Speaker 3: couple of weeks or whatever. And his knee, it was
- 11:21Speaker 3: a knee and an ankle that he was dealing with
- 11:24Speaker 3: after that Steelers game. And he did like briefly leave
- 11:27Speaker 3: at one point against the Titans, which kind of made
- 11:31Speaker 3: me wonder, like, OK, is he is he fully feeling
- 11:34Speaker 3: better in that leg? Like, or is it something he's
- 11:37Speaker 3: fighting through? I would guess at this stage of the year,
- 11:39Speaker 3: it's something he's fighting through a little bit. And this
- 11:43Speaker 3: is a guy who last year played with a broken rib.
- 11:47Speaker 3: And we had our suspicions about that because he kept
- 11:49Speaker 3: showing up on injury reports with a rib. He wouldn't
- 11:51Speaker 3: practice on Wednesday or Thursday, and then he would practice Friday.
- 11:54Speaker 3: So that to me typically signals something, but he wouldn't
- 11:57Speaker 3: even tell us that that's what it was until this
- 12:00Speaker 3: past off season. So yeah, I mean, he had gotten
- 12:03Speaker 3: off to such a hot start before that game, the
- 12:06Speaker 3: four sacks in their first three. So it definitely, I think,
- 12:10Speaker 3: It makes a huge difference having him out there, but
- 12:13Speaker 3: the Browns have been helped by the fact that Malik
- 12:15Speaker 3: Collins has really gotten going basically ever since Mason went out.
- 12:20Speaker 3: And he's having a career year. He just earned an extension.
- 12:24Speaker 3: It's the biggest contract he's ever gotten, which at 31
- 12:28Speaker 3: years old for a defensive tackle, that's a pretty big deal.
- 12:31Speaker 2: It's not something you see a lot. So it's definitely
- 12:34Speaker 2: a tandem in the middle right now.
- 12:36Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you do see that sometimes, like players–
- 12:40Speaker 4: they find it eventually in their career. And I think
- 12:42Speaker 4: on the defensive line, you know, you don't necessarily need
- 12:45Speaker 4: to worry too much about losing your burst, but you
- 12:47Speaker 4: get stronger, you get better with your technique. And over
- 12:49Speaker 4: here in Pittsburgh, Cam Hayward's still playing at a high level,
- 12:51Speaker 4: but yeah, they're in Cleveland, someone like Collins breaking through
- 12:54Speaker 4: and he's part of a, you know, a lot of
- 12:57Speaker 4: kind of lesser known players who were having good seasons.
- 12:59Speaker 4: Like I was looking at the sack totals today, Ash.
- 13:01Speaker 4: I mean, The last question I have for you is
- 13:03Speaker 4: pretty simple. Who is Sam Kamara? I don't think I've
- 13:05Speaker 4: ever seen that name in my life until I looked
- 13:07Speaker 4: at the Browns defense. I'm not trying to give any
- 13:10Speaker 4: bulletin board material, but I give the guy credit. It
- 13:12Speaker 4: looks like he's been in the league for a while
- 13:14Speaker 4: and just finally notched his first NFL sack this season.
- 13:16Speaker 1: Good for him.
- 13:17Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been a guy who has been around Cleveland
- 13:19Speaker 3: for really the last like four or five years. I
- 13:22Speaker 3: think 2022 was his first season because it was actually
- 13:25Speaker 3: the first year before former D coordinator Jim Schwartz was
- 13:29Speaker 3: hired and Jim Schwartz got here and loved Sam Kamara.
- 13:32Speaker 3: They loved his versatility because he can play inside or outside.
- 13:37Speaker 3: And he has done that. I mean, he's mostly done
- 13:40Speaker 3: that as like a practice squad guy and they've elevated
- 13:42Speaker 3: or signed him to the active roster. So, I mean,
- 13:45Speaker 3: I'm actually curious like what they're going to do because
- 13:47Speaker 3: we're coming up on his limit for elevations here for
- 13:50Speaker 3: the season. So yeah, I'm curious if he'll get a
- 13:53Speaker 3: roster spot, but him and Aiden Huntington is the other name.
- 13:56Speaker 3: He's a former undrafted product as well. The Browns got
- 14:00Speaker 3: him last year. He played at a handful of schools,
- 14:03Speaker 3: including Kent State, Tulane, and he's played really well.
- 14:07Speaker 2: He's got a couple of sacks, I think. He's got
- 14:09Speaker 2: a recovered fumble. So both of those guys have really,
- 14:13Speaker 2: really stepped up. But yeah, both of them are actually
- 14:16Speaker 2: holdovers from the Jim Schwartz era and that scheme, which
- 14:21Speaker 2: so many similarities between that and what Mike Rutenberg runs
- 14:24Speaker 2: here now.
- 14:24Speaker 1: Last question for you, Ashley, then we'll let you go.
- 14:26Speaker 1: The vibe in Cleveland, I started the conversation with you
- 14:29Speaker 1: off with this, and I'll end it with this as well.
- 14:31Speaker 1: How big is this for them to sweep the Steelers?
- 14:33Speaker 1: I mean, I know Brian and I talked earlier this week.
- 14:36Speaker 1: We kind of compare the Browns to our baseball team
- 14:39Speaker 1: here in Pittsburgh with the Pittsburgh Pirates, and I say
- 14:41Speaker 1: that with all due respect for both organizations because it's
- 14:44Speaker 1: been a long time since the Pirates have been relevant
- 14:47Speaker 1: when it comes to winning. So they'll start the season
- 14:49Speaker 1: off in April, May. They'll be in first place, but
- 14:51Speaker 1: we all know what's coming later on. That's happened in
- 14:54Speaker 1: Cleveland a bunch of times, too. Is everybody bought into
- 14:57Speaker 1: this five and two or is everybody kind of waiting
- 15:00Speaker 1: for the for potentially the basement floor to be pulled out?
- 15:04Speaker 3: Well, I definitely think in the building they are like
- 15:06Speaker 3: totally bought in. I think the only other Browns team
- 15:09Speaker 3: that I have experienced that just feels very cohesive in
- 15:14Speaker 3: their messaging week to week and the tone they're putting out.
- 15:17Speaker 3: It's the 2023 team, which, you know, did not win
- 15:20Speaker 3: the division, obviously, but did make make it to the playoffs.
- 15:23Speaker 3: And Joe Flacco had that incredible run at the end
- 15:25Speaker 3: of that season, the regular season. So those these two
- 15:29Speaker 3: teams have a lot of similarities to me. I don't know,
- 15:32Speaker 3: like from the fan base, I still think there's some
- 15:34Speaker 3: like healthy skepticism because Browns fans tend to get a
- 15:38Speaker 3: little cynical over the last like 30 years.
- 15:40Speaker 2: Who can blame them?
- 15:41Speaker 1: Right.
- 15:41Speaker 2: So I feel like that's kind of what I see.
- 15:44Speaker 3: But I do believe like Todd Munkin has these guys
- 15:47Speaker 3: fully bought in. And the way we talk about this
- 15:49Speaker 3: team a lot is they've gotten so young. over the
- 15:52Speaker 3: last two years with their draft picks that, like, I
- 15:55Speaker 3: think they're so young that they, like, don't know that
- 15:58Speaker 3: they're supposed to be intimidated when they go and play
- 16:01Speaker 3: at Akershire Stadium.
- 16:02Speaker 2: They just don't know any better. And, you know, we've
- 16:04Speaker 2: tried to.
- 16:05Speaker 3: Ask guys this week about, like, The Browns haven't won
- 16:08Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh in the regular season since 03.
- 16:10Speaker 2: Like, what do you think about that streak?
- 16:12Speaker 3: And they just are kind of across the board, very
- 16:14Speaker 3: adamant that they don't care. Like that has nothing to
- 16:17Speaker 3: do with them. They don't kind of want to be
- 16:19Speaker 3: sucked into the negative history that Cleveland has playing in Pittsburgh.
- 16:24Speaker 3: So I find that very interesting. Like, I think it's
- 16:26Speaker 3: the right approach, but I mean, we'll see on Sunday
- 16:29Speaker 3: what happens. And if it does have any impact, because
- 16:31Speaker 3: it is, it's a fine line, I think between not
- 16:33Speaker 3: letting it get intimidating, but also like knowing that, what
- 16:37Speaker 3: you're in for and what are you going to do
- 16:38Speaker 3: when Renegades blaring, you know, in the fourth quarter and
- 16:41Speaker 3: you're a Browns rookie.
- 16:42Speaker 1: Ashley Bastock from Cleveland.com, Browns reporter. Thank you so much
- 16:46Speaker 1: for joining us. Always great to talk to you.
- 16:48Speaker 2: All right. Thanks, guys. Thanks, Ashley. See you Sunday.
- 16:51Speaker 1: It is the Steelers report right here on Steelers Nation Radio,
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- 17:11Speaker 1: Great stuff from Ashley Bastog from Cleveland.com, helping us continue
- 17:16Speaker 1: our preview of Steelers grounds for this upcoming Week 8
- 17:19Speaker 1: matchup for first place in the AFC North. One of
- 17:23Speaker 1: the things that you heard us talk about was Jared Burse.
- 17:27Speaker 1: Had quite a bit to say after the first meeting.
- 17:29Speaker 1: He's had quite a bit to say this upcoming week.
- 17:33Speaker 1: Brian Baku, and you heard Ashley talk about it. He
- 17:36Speaker 1: likes to talk, and he's gotten into some heated situations,
- 17:41Speaker 1: it sounds like, during training camp, which a lot of
- 17:43Speaker 1: players do, so he's not alone in that. But, yeah,
- 17:46Speaker 1: there's one thing that we've learned here early on in
- 17:48Speaker 1: the Jared-verse conversation saga, time period, whatever you want to
- 17:53Speaker 1: call it, career so far in Cleveland, is he is
- 17:56Speaker 1: fully in on this rivalry with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
- 18:00Speaker 4: He is, but you know what? I mean, like, no
- 18:04Speaker 4: offense to Jared Verz, he's a good player, and if
- 18:06Speaker 4: you would go back and listen to the shows of
- 18:08Speaker 4: when the Browns made that huge trade with the Rams,
- 18:11Speaker 4: speaking of huge trade, we mentioned it in passing yesterday,
- 18:14Speaker 4: but it turned out that Jeffrey Simmons from the Titans
- 18:17Speaker 4: did go for two first-round picks, plus to the bears.
- 18:21Speaker 4: Maybe we can hit on that by the end of
- 18:22Speaker 4: the show. But, uh, Miles Garrett was also a blockbuster
- 18:25Speaker 4: trade earlier this off season. I said, yeah, the Rams
- 18:28Speaker 4: probably win that trade, but don't discount what the Browns
- 18:31Speaker 4: are doing by bringing in a guy like Jared verse.
- 18:33Speaker 4: So my point is I'm high on him in general.
- 18:36Speaker 4: I always thought he was excellent when I would see
- 18:38Speaker 4: him with the Rams. He did nothing in the first
- 18:42Speaker 4: matchup with the Steelers and Browns. Like, yeah, they got
- 18:44Speaker 4: five sacks. He didn't even register a pressure. So, uh,
- 18:48Speaker 4: I get it. I mean, you're coming into this with
- 18:51Speaker 4: a certain... You want to have a chip on your
- 18:54Speaker 4: shoulder for yourself and for this new franchise that you're in,
- 18:57Speaker 4: and I'm sure it gets drilled into these guys from
- 19:00Speaker 4: fans and former players or longer-tenured players or the new
- 19:05Speaker 4: coaching staff. We hate the Steelers, but I don't know.
- 19:09Speaker 4: I just think it might be a case of you're
- 19:11Speaker 4: doing a little too much. Troy Fontana was asked about
- 19:14Speaker 4: it after practice Thursday. Took a very Mum approach, you know,
- 19:20Speaker 4: didn't really have much to say. Like, basically, yeah, we'll
- 19:23Speaker 4: see what happens on Sunday. And Faltano, I thought, played
- 19:26Speaker 4: very well against Verse in that first meeting. The Browns
- 19:30Speaker 4: schemed up some sacks, don't get me wrong. And Verse
- 19:33Speaker 4: is someone who you can't let your guard down against him.
- 19:35Speaker 4: He's a very powerful rusher off the edge. But, man,
- 19:40Speaker 4: he just, he's talking a lot for someone who really, again,
- 19:43Speaker 4: didn't impact that game very much for the Browns the
- 19:46Speaker 4: first time around.
- 19:48Speaker 1: I agree with you. And you know, sometimes, Brian, there
- 19:50Speaker 1: are just certain players that have to talk to fire
- 19:53Speaker 1: themselves up. try to fire their defense up, their team up.
- 19:56Speaker 1: Maybe Jared Verse is one of those dudes. I'm not sure.
- 19:59Speaker 1: This is our first go-around with Jared Verse. But either way,
- 20:02Speaker 1: I'm with you because, you know, if you look at
- 20:04Speaker 1: the history of the AFC North and Steelers, Ravens, even Steelers,
- 20:09Speaker 1: Bengals for that matter, Steelers, Browns, the players that always
- 20:12Speaker 1: chirped back at each other, you're right. They always backed
- 20:14Speaker 1: it up on the field or had a significant presence
- 20:17Speaker 1: on the football field and made a play at some
- 20:19Speaker 1: point in the series. Verse didn't do that the first
- 20:21Speaker 1: time around.
- 20:23Speaker 4: All-time villains in Steelers-Browns. I mean, I guess you've got
- 20:26Speaker 4: William Green from getting into it with Joey Porter back
- 20:29Speaker 4: in the day. Miles Garrett, clearly for a long time,
- 20:32Speaker 4: was an arch-nemesis of the Steelers. I guess you could
- 20:36Speaker 4: throw Baker Mayfield in there. But Jared Verse, bottom line,
- 20:40Speaker 4: he's got a long way to go to be a
- 20:43Speaker 4: true antagonist in the Steelers-Browns rivalry. But hey, if they
- 20:48Speaker 4: do find a way to win in Pittsburgh for the
- 20:50Speaker 4: first time in 23 years, whether he has a good
- 20:54Speaker 4: game or not he will to the victor go the
- 20:56Speaker 4: spoils and he'll get to do all sorts of talking
- 20:59Speaker 4: and chirping and i'm sure he will but yeah i
- 21:01Speaker 4: think when you accuse another team of being dirty i
- 21:03Speaker 4: mean it's just like all right you know have some
- 21:06Speaker 4: receipts i don't think there was anything visible in that
- 21:09Speaker 4: game you know the ball knowers the all 22 watchers
- 21:13Speaker 4: people would have found things uh if there was anything
- 21:16Speaker 4: truly beyond the pale there we know that you know
- 21:18Speaker 4: mason mccormick Likes to talk some smack. I don't think
- 21:21Speaker 4: Troy Fatanu is too much, but McCormick gets pretty ornery.
- 21:25Speaker 5: Maybe he said some things.
- 21:27Speaker 4: That Verst didn't like. I don't know. I mean, let's
- 21:29Speaker 4: line it up on Sunday and see who plays better.
- 21:33Speaker 4: I don't mind it to inject some vitriol into this rivalry,
- 21:38Speaker 4: but Verst is making himself very unlikable very quickly here
- 21:41Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh, I think. And there's been trash talk around
- 21:44Speaker 4: the league this weekend. Did you see what Ashton Gentry
- 21:47Speaker 4: said about the Jets?
- 21:49Speaker 1: I did not.
- 21:51Speaker 4: Ashton Gentry, second year running back for the Raiders said
- 21:54Speaker 4: something about how, uh, I think he was getting asked
- 21:57Speaker 4: about trying to get the run game going for Vegas.
- 22:00Speaker 4: And he's, if this could be a week to do so.
- 22:02Speaker 4: And he said, yeah, because he sees some guys on
- 22:04Speaker 4: the jets who don't want to tackle it, but he's
- 22:05Speaker 4: not going to name any names. So of course they're
- 22:08Speaker 4: asking Minka Fitzpatrick about that in the jets locker room
- 22:12Speaker 4: and press conferences. And Minka has been in these Steelers
- 22:16Speaker 4: Browns rivalry game. So he knows what physicality is all about. And,
- 22:21Speaker 4: He took the high road on Genting, much like the
- 22:23Speaker 4: Steelers have done for the most part with first. But
- 22:27Speaker 4: it'll be it'll be mighty interesting on Sunday. It's there's
- 22:32Speaker 4: always some bad blood between these two teams versus new
- 22:35Speaker 4: to the rivalry. But clearly he made it a point
- 22:38Speaker 4: to be on the on the attack here coming into
- 22:41Speaker 4: the on the offensive line.
- 22:44Speaker 1: So you just mentioned villains, and it is Halloween weekend.
- 22:46Speaker 1: So within the AFC North, let's pick out our top
- 22:49Speaker 1: villains over the course of the AFC North. At least
- 22:53Speaker 1: we'll go at least the last, I don't know, this century, right?
- 22:55Speaker 1: We'll go the last 25 years leading into this one.
- 22:59Speaker 1: Terrell Suggs, for me, is number one on my list
- 23:02Speaker 1: from the Ravens. I'm not sure I can put anyone.
- 23:04Speaker 1: There's a few Bengals that I'll hold off and I'll
- 23:06Speaker 1: mention here in a second, and we'll see if you
- 23:08Speaker 1: put any Bengal players out there. I'm sure you will.
- 23:10Speaker 1: But Terrell Suggs for me would be the number one
- 23:12Speaker 1: villain within the AFC North that I've seen here in
- 23:14Speaker 1: the last 25, 26 years. I'm going to.
- 23:19Speaker 4: Actually put Miles Garrett in there. I mean, he had
- 23:23Speaker 4: a very villainous moment on a Thursday night in 2019
- 23:27Speaker 4: that kind of goes anything beyond football related. So I'd
- 23:31Speaker 4: put him with my first choice there. He's still in
- 23:34Speaker 4: the league, but off to LA now with the Rams.
- 23:37Speaker 4: I think the Steelers play the Rams next year, but
- 23:40Speaker 4: It'll probably be a little bit different, especially with all
- 23:43Speaker 4: those games where TJ Watt was the protagonist and Miles
- 23:46Speaker 4: Garrett was the antagonist, at least in Pittsburgh.
- 23:49Speaker 1: How about the Cincinnati Bengals? They've had a few over
- 23:51Speaker 1: the years. Burfitt comes to mind. Chad Johnson comes to mind.
- 23:56Speaker 1: Pac-Man Jones comes to mind. There may be more villains
- 23:59Speaker 1: in Cincinnati with the Bengals than the Ravens or Browns.
- 24:03Speaker 4: Yeah, they had a quantity over quality, maybe. Ray Lewis,
- 24:09Speaker 4: certainly for the Ravens, too. I mean, you can't really
- 24:11Speaker 4: think about Suggs without thinking about Ray Lewis. Yeah, they're
- 24:16Speaker 4: mostly on the defensive side of the ball, and we
- 24:19Speaker 4: know how football works.
- 24:20Speaker 2: T.J.
- 24:20Speaker 4: Watt and Cam Hayward, James Harrison, they're the same type
- 24:25Speaker 4: of guy. They're the Freddy Kruegers and Michael Myers of
- 24:27Speaker 4: the world for those fan bases. But, yeah, absolutely, those
- 24:33Speaker 4: are some ones that are at the top of anybody's list,
- 24:36Speaker 4: I think, when you look back at Steelers, AFC North,
- 24:41Speaker 4: not too many horror movies because they've been good against
- 24:43Speaker 4: this division by and large. But when things do go
- 24:46Speaker 4: south or even when it's just the chippiness and the talking,
- 24:49Speaker 4: the smack talk away from the field, those guys are...
- 24:53Speaker 4: I always thought too with the Ravens it was maybe
- 24:55Speaker 4: more respect at the end of the day in addition
- 24:59Speaker 4: to a whole lot of hatred. I don't think there's
- 25:01Speaker 4: quite as much of that with the Browns and Bengals
- 25:02Speaker 4: for whatever reason.
- 25:04Speaker 1: You know, when you look in and around the AFC North,
- 25:06Speaker 1: you can pick out a lot of villains, that's for sure.
- 25:09Speaker 1: And you just mentioned a few of them, too, Double B.
- 25:12Speaker 1: But you're right, Ray Lewis, Terrell Suggs. But I will
- 25:15Speaker 1: say this. I've always said this. If Ray Lewis would
- 25:19Speaker 1: have played his career here in Pittsburgh as a Pittsburgh
- 25:21Speaker 1: Steeler and a member of this Steeler defense... there would
- 25:24Speaker 1: be a statue of Ray Lewis outside Accusure Stadium. I mean,
- 25:28Speaker 1: he defined what Pittsburgh Steelers defenders and linebackers looked like
- 25:32Speaker 1: over the course of this franchise, and he would have
- 25:34Speaker 1: been a fan favorite. But, you know, that's a lot
- 25:36Speaker 1: of buts. Of course, he was a Baltimore Raven, and
- 25:38Speaker 1: he's one of the hatred Baltimore Ravens.
- 25:42Speaker 4: I think that's usually the case. Yeah, you love them
- 25:45Speaker 4: when they're on your team. You hate them if they aren't.
- 25:47Speaker 4: But yeah, no doubt one of the best linebackers in
- 25:50Speaker 4: NFL history. Speaking of linebackers, it slipped through the cracks
- 25:54Speaker 4: on me yesterday. Yesterday would have been Andy Russell's birthday,
- 25:58Speaker 4: one of the best linebackers in Steelers history. So shout
- 26:02Speaker 4: out to Andy Russell, who passed away a couple years ago.
- 26:05Speaker 4: And speaking of birthdays, Ed, you know whose birthday it
- 26:07Speaker 4: is Sunday?
- 26:09Speaker 1: Help me out, my friend. We had T.J. Watt's birthday
- 26:12Speaker 1: on a Steelers Sunday earlier this year. Is it a
- 26:14Speaker 1: current Steelers?
- 26:16Speaker 4: And Pat Friermuth in Paris. This week, Jalen Warren turns
- 26:20Speaker 4: 28 on November 1st. Let's hope he has a birthday
- 26:24Speaker 4: to remember against the Brownies.
- 26:27Speaker 1: That's interesting to me because, I mean, what's the odds
- 26:29Speaker 1: that the Steelers, not one, not two, but three starters,
- 26:33Speaker 1: I mean, playmakers, have had their birthdays on Steelers game days?
- 26:38Speaker 4: Yeah, it is pretty wild. I'd have to go and
- 26:40Speaker 4: look and see if there have been any more, but
- 26:42Speaker 4: just in this last less than a month fans, what,
- 26:47Speaker 4: three of the last four games? Was TJ's the Colts game?
- 26:50Speaker 4: Was that his birthday yet?
- 26:51Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was the Colts game, the matchup
- 26:53Speaker 1: here at Accushore. Okay.
- 26:56Speaker 4: Yeah, so he got a win on his birthday. Pat
- 26:59Speaker 4: Fryermuth got a win on his birthday. I think when
- 27:03Speaker 4: you look at Jalen Warren, we know he's going to
- 27:05Speaker 4: be a key part of this game plan for sure.
- 27:10Speaker 4: Be a great way for the Steelers and Warren to
- 27:14Speaker 4: celebrate His 28th birthday, if he goes out there against
- 27:17Speaker 4: the Browns and continues to run roughshod over the opponent,
- 27:21Speaker 4: but particularly an AFC North team that you know is
- 27:25Speaker 4: gearing up to stop him. But yeah, going back to
- 27:30Speaker 4: verse for a second, is it remember the Titans where
- 27:33Speaker 4: Sunshine says let the guy through who's been talking all
- 27:35Speaker 4: the trash and then they Troy Faltano would just open
- 27:38Speaker 4: the gate and then Aaron Rodgers just boinks one off
- 27:42Speaker 4: of his head. Or no, he doesn't throw it at him.
- 27:44Speaker 4: He shakes him off. He dumps him when he tries
- 27:46Speaker 4: to sack him.
- 27:47Speaker 1: Sunshine puts his shoulder down. He does a legal block,
- 27:49Speaker 1: but he does a somersault over top of him. Great
- 27:52Speaker 1: movie reference. I forgot about the Remember the Titans reference
- 27:55Speaker 1: with both you and I. We're both big fans.
- 27:58Speaker 4: I don't think I would recommend that, though, in this
- 28:00Speaker 4: one for Aaron Rodgers to try to do that to
- 28:03Speaker 4: Jared Verse. I think there's a There's a lot of
- 28:05Speaker 4: season left and you don't want the personal stuff to
- 28:10Speaker 4: spill over. And we're making light of it with the
- 28:12Speaker 4: movie reference, but in all seriousness, you do need to
- 28:16Speaker 4: play on the edge in this game for both teams.
- 28:19Speaker 4: Penalties could be a key in this one as well.
- 28:21Speaker 4: You don't want to start getting mixed up into some
- 28:25Speaker 4: extracurricular activity and then you're leaving it in the officials'
- 28:28Speaker 4: hands to try to legislate who did what to who
- 28:31Speaker 4: and Who did it first? Because we know that oftentimes
- 28:35Speaker 4: it's the second guy who gets spotted, and they're the
- 28:37Speaker 4: one who gets flagged. So you want to play this
- 28:40Speaker 4: game with an edge, obviously, but you've got to straddle
- 28:43Speaker 4: that line of not picking up unsportsmanlike conduct, any sort
- 28:48Speaker 4: of unnecessary roughness, because that can absolutely set you back
- 28:52Speaker 4: in a game like this, or defensively it can gift
- 28:55Speaker 4: the Browns yards that you don't want to give them
- 28:58Speaker 4: for their Halloween candy basket.
- 29:00Speaker 1: You know, one other, absolutely, and good reference there with
- 29:03Speaker 1: the Halloween connection there at the end, my friend. But
- 29:06Speaker 1: when you think about this game, Brian, we've talked a
- 29:09Speaker 1: lot about offense, we've talked a lot about defense, but
- 29:11Speaker 1: you know one thing we haven't talked much at all
- 29:13Speaker 1: this week, or even today, is special teams. and how
- 29:16Speaker 1: special teams could be a big difference in a battle
- 29:18Speaker 1: like this within the AFC North. Look, it was the
- 29:21Speaker 1: last time Andre Schmidt hit the game-winning field goal at
- 29:24Speaker 1: the end, and it wasn't just a chip shot by Schmidt.
- 29:26Speaker 1: What did he hit it from? I'm going to look
- 29:28Speaker 1: right now. 56 yards to win that game, so it
- 29:31Speaker 1: wasn't just a regular 30 yarder um the Steelers have
- 29:34Speaker 1: had their struggles with you know the return game the
- 29:36Speaker 1: coverage uh kickoff team Boz has missed a handful of
- 29:40Speaker 1: field goals but also on the other hand he's made
- 29:41Speaker 1: a bunch and he's bailed the Steelers out multiple times
- 29:44Speaker 1: but yeah this this could come down to special teams
- 29:46Speaker 1: uh for sure.
- 29:48Speaker 4: Yeah we know Schmidt happens when you play the Browns
- 29:51Speaker 4: and they get in close and they need three three Bojo,
- 29:54Speaker 4: Corey Bajorquez, I'm probably butchering the guy's name, but their punter,
- 29:58Speaker 4: he also had a field-flipping punt in that game. Didn't
- 30:01Speaker 4: he crush that thing like 80 yards through the Cleveland
- 30:04Speaker 4: night to back up the Steelers? So, yeah, I mean,
- 30:08Speaker 4: special teams, they are always key. Cam Johnston's been doing
- 30:12Speaker 4: a good job so far this season. And speaking of
- 30:14Speaker 4: Cam Johnston, Ed, before we forget, because you know we will,
- 30:17Speaker 4: we're both like absent-minded radio hosts here Captain predictions for
- 30:23Speaker 4: week eight. It jogged my memory because Johnston was a
- 30:26Speaker 4: captain out there in Paris. Who do we got for
- 30:31Speaker 4: this one? Do you want to go first or do
- 30:32Speaker 4: you want me to go first or do you want
- 30:33Speaker 4: me to read off the list so far? Let me
- 30:36Speaker 4: know what you think.
- 30:37Speaker 1: Well, you know, Brian, you usually go first, so I'll
- 30:40Speaker 1: kick us off about that. I'm going to say for offense,
- 30:44Speaker 1: Mason McCormick.
- 30:46Speaker 4: Okay, well, I was going to say we actually haven't
- 30:47Speaker 4: had a repeat captain yet. He would be the first.
- 30:51Speaker 4: So do you want to adjust your pick? Because he
- 30:54Speaker 4: was back in Week 5 against the Colts.
- 30:56Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to adjust it because I think Coach,
- 30:59Speaker 1: if I was head coach, I'd want to go through
- 31:00Speaker 1: everyone for the majority at least one time through. Okay,
- 31:04Speaker 1: let me think about this. Let me ask you this.
- 31:06Speaker 1: Has Darnell Washington been a captain yet?
- 31:09Speaker 4: He has not. I thought you were going to ask
- 31:11Speaker 4: about DK Metcalf. It's kind of weird that he hasn't
- 31:14Speaker 4: been one yet, but I also recall Tampa Week 6–
- 31:18Speaker 4: I'm up there in the press box, and I was
- 31:20Speaker 4: kind of surprised that only two came out, Travis Homer
- 31:23Speaker 4: and Jamel Dean. DK sort of, I think sometimes he
- 31:26Speaker 4: comes out a little bit later, whatever pregame stuff he's
- 31:28Speaker 4: got going on, if it's treatment, something or other. But
- 31:32Speaker 4: I wonder if he was supposed to be a captain
- 31:33Speaker 4: week six and just didn't come out there. So, no,
- 31:37Speaker 4: but to your point, Darnell Washington has not. I think
- 31:40Speaker 4: that's a very good prediction, the way he's been playing,
- 31:44Speaker 4: and he's earned it, no doubt. But I'm going to,
- 31:47Speaker 4: just to be different from you, I'm going to say
- 31:48Speaker 4: Brock Hoffman, originally undrafted free agent of the Browns. This
- 31:52Speaker 4: front office regime brought him in. If there's any sort
- 31:55Speaker 4: of motivational buttons to press there from Mike McCarthy, maybe
- 31:59Speaker 4: it would be it for Brock Hoffman. It's not exactly
- 32:02Speaker 4: a revenge game. It's not like he played for them.
- 32:05Speaker 4: He's only ever played in the NFL for the Cowboys
- 32:08Speaker 4: prior to Pittsburgh. But he did spend a little bit
- 32:10Speaker 4: of time in the organization and can do the old
- 32:13Speaker 4: Uncle Phil, Will Smith, why didn't they want me card?
- 32:18Speaker 1: Great scene. I always cry when I watch that. It
- 32:21Speaker 1: always pops up on my Instagram reels. Boy, good reference.
- 32:25Speaker 1: Making me laugh, Double B. Making me laugh. When we
- 32:27Speaker 1: come back, we'll do our defensive captain pick and our
- 32:30Speaker 1: special teams pick. We are up against the break, and
- 32:33Speaker 1: we'll wrap up the show for today. We'll also take
- 32:34Speaker 1: a look in and around the NFL for week number eight.
- 32:38Speaker 1: But first, this is the Steelers report on SNR, part
- 32:41Speaker 1: of the Steelers Audio Network.
- 32:43Speaker 2: We'll be right back.
- 32:49Speaker 5: This is the Steelers Report with Brian Batko and Ed
- 32:53Speaker 5: Troup on Steelers Nation Radio, a part of the Steelers
- 32:57Speaker 5: Audio Network.
- 32:58Speaker 1: Wrapping up our number two in the show for this
- 33:01Speaker 1: week as we get set for Browns Steelers Part 2
- 33:05Speaker 1: from Accuture Stadium, 1 o'clock on Sunday. And we'll be
- 33:09Speaker 1: back at it Monday to wrap up. The rematch as
- 33:13Speaker 1: we go into the bye week. We'll have some exciting
- 33:15Speaker 1: interviews for you for our fan base out there to
- 33:17Speaker 1: get through the next two weeks. We'll turn our attentions
- 33:20Speaker 1: to the second half of the schedule, which will start
- 33:22Speaker 1: with the Cincinnati Bengals two weeks from this upcoming Sunday.
- 33:26Speaker 1: And we'll also recap the first half of the season.
- 33:29Speaker 1: We'll get Brian Backo's thoughts there. And we'll break everything
- 33:32Speaker 1: down for you and help you get prepared for the
- 33:34Speaker 1: stretch run of the Pittsburgh Steelers' 2026 season after the
- 33:38Speaker 1: bye week. Brian, before the break, we were going over
- 33:41Speaker 1: potential team captains for this week. Usually an offensive player,
- 33:46Speaker 1: a defensive player. Mike McCarthy has rotated through his captains
- 33:49Speaker 1: so far this season. And then usually a special teams player.
- 33:52Speaker 1: I picked Darnell Washington on offense. You picked Brock Hoffman.
- 33:56Speaker 1: So let's pick some defenders to add into this group
- 33:58Speaker 1: for this week. And I'm leaning towards Y.A.
- 34:01Speaker 5: Black.
- 34:01Speaker 1: Has he been a captain yet this year?
- 34:04Speaker 5: Yes.
- 34:05Speaker 3: Yes, he has.
- 34:06Speaker 4: Also week five with Mason McCormick. I don't know if
- 34:08Speaker 4: he was technically special teams or defensive captain, but it
- 34:13Speaker 4: was him and Peyton Wilson from that side.
- 34:15Speaker 1: Of the ball. Okay, well then I will not take Y.A.
- 34:17Speaker 1: Black on that one. All right, you're going to have
- 34:19Speaker 1: to come back to me because I'm going to have
- 34:20Speaker 1: to think about it. Do you have a defensive pick?
- 34:23Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll go with Keanu Benton. He hasn't been one yet.
- 34:26Speaker 4: Just to rattle them off for you real quick, Ed,
- 34:29Speaker 4: you've got Cam Hayward, Alex Highsmith, TJ Watt, Jaquan Brisker, Y.A. Black,
- 34:34Speaker 4: Jamel Dean, Patrick Queen, Peyton Wilson, Cole Holcomb. So some
- 34:40Speaker 4: options still out there would be Benton. Jalen Ramsey kind
- 34:43Speaker 4: of surprisingly hasn't been one yet. Deshaun Elliott, obviously he
- 34:47Speaker 4: just got back, but those are a few that haven't
- 34:51Speaker 4: had their day in the sun to this point.
- 34:54Speaker 1: Okay, I got one for you. How about Nick Herbig?
- 34:57Speaker 4: Oh, there you go. Yeah, he hasn't been one yet either.
- 35:00Speaker 4: All right, so we'll each take a different badger on
- 35:02Speaker 4: this one.
- 35:03Speaker 1: Yeah, lock us in. You for Benton, me for Nick Herbig,
- 35:06Speaker 1: and now we've got to do a special teams pick.
- 35:08Speaker 1: And this is always the most challenging one because right
- 35:11Speaker 1: off the bat, tell me, Johnston, Boswell, I think, have
- 35:13Speaker 1: they been captains yet?
- 35:16Speaker 4: Johnston most recently, yes. Boswell, no. Travis Homer has been.
- 35:21Speaker 4: Ben Skoronek, Carson Bruner, Echols, Holcomb. Yeah, I think that's it.
- 35:28Speaker 1: Well, maybe it's time for Bos then. He's coming off
- 35:30Speaker 1: that big game in Paris against the Saints, so I'm
- 35:32Speaker 1: going to go Bos.
- 35:34Speaker 4: I'll differ from you again for the sake of argument here,
- 35:37Speaker 4: and I'll say Christian Kuntz. He has not been one yet,
- 35:40Speaker 4: so that would give my trio. My captain circle is
- 35:43Speaker 4: Brock Hoffman, Keanu Benton, Christian Kuntz, and yours is Darnell Washington,
- 35:49Speaker 4: Nick Herbig, Chris Boswell.
- 35:51Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a fun one that we do each week,
- 35:54Speaker 1: but then we forget about it. Like you said, I
- 35:55Speaker 1: think last week leading into Paris, but again, we had
- 35:57Speaker 1: a lot of moving parts. You were on your way
- 35:59Speaker 1: internationally at the beginning of last week, but I think
- 36:02Speaker 1: we forgot to do the Paris captains, right?
- 36:05Speaker 4: Yeah, this is kind of like how we do our
- 36:07Speaker 4: offensive and defensive power rankings, just to be different from
- 36:10Speaker 4: other shows. Everybody does overall NFL power rankings, and everybody
- 36:15Speaker 4: gives out game balls after games. Now, just to make
- 36:17Speaker 4: it very clear to the listening audience, Mike McCarthy does
- 36:21Speaker 4: not consult me, nor does he consult Ed on the
- 36:24Speaker 4: captains for each week, just like he doesn't consult any
- 36:28Speaker 4: of the 8 billion Steelers and football pundits out there
- 36:31Speaker 4: for his weekly game balls, but I think it's kind
- 36:34Speaker 4: of fun to pick, especially right now, looking at who
- 36:36Speaker 4: hasn't been one yet. I doubt they can get through
- 36:38Speaker 4: the entire season without repeating, nor would you maybe even
- 36:42Speaker 4: want to. But so far, I think it's been kind
- 36:45Speaker 4: of fun. And plus, like we've said anecdotally, I still
- 36:48Speaker 4: haven't sat down and really combed through it and charted it.
- 36:52Speaker 4: But off the top of my head, I feel like
- 36:54Speaker 4: a lot of the times, players who are captains that week,
- 36:58Speaker 4: the stars have aligned for them to go out and
- 37:00Speaker 4: have a great game.
- 37:01Speaker 1: Yeah, they have. They've showed up and it's been a
- 37:03Speaker 1: nice mix so far, Double B. And listen, if you're
- 37:06Speaker 1: like me, you will sit down on Sunday before the
- 37:09Speaker 1: game and you will jump on to X, formerly known
- 37:11Speaker 1: as Twitter, and check out Brian Bacco because you usually
- 37:15Speaker 1: tweet out who the captains are for each game before
- 37:19Speaker 1: the game starts. So that's how I always check our balances,
- 37:22Speaker 1: check and balances, if you will, to see who got
- 37:24Speaker 1: it right and who got it wrong.
- 37:26Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't tweet a ton during the games. It's like,
- 37:28Speaker 4: you know, I used to when I was younger, everybody's
- 37:31Speaker 4: watching the game. I mean, for the most part, you know,
- 37:33Speaker 4: I'll tweet the score updates, touchdowns, big plays, occasional observations,
- 37:40Speaker 4: but yeah, I've had a good time tweeting out the captains.
- 37:43Speaker 4: And then I always tweet out the snap counts the
- 37:45Speaker 4: day after the game. So trying to spend a lot
- 37:48Speaker 4: less time on X formerly known as Twitter for my
- 37:52Speaker 4: own mental health and wellbeing and sanity. But of course
- 37:56Speaker 4: we've got it up during the game and, It's still
- 37:58Speaker 4: a good way for people to follow. And I just
- 38:01Speaker 4: sometimes I get a little bit annoyed by the echo
- 38:03Speaker 4: chamber of stuff that's happening during the game. But you
- 38:06Speaker 4: can at least find me telling you who the captains
- 38:09Speaker 4: are for that week.
- 38:09Speaker 1: Now, listen, when things go wrong, social media loves to
- 38:13Speaker 1: blow up and talk about what is going wrong. When
- 38:16Speaker 1: things go right, a bit quiet sometimes. It's funny how
- 38:18Speaker 1: that works, Brian Bacco. More critics than supporters sometimes in
- 38:22Speaker 1: and around. But we know the listeners here on SNR
- 38:25Speaker 1: are big supporters, hence why you're listening to us each
- 38:27Speaker 1: and every day, and we appreciate you. All right, let's
- 38:29Speaker 1: check a couple games real quick in our Renegade preview
- 38:31Speaker 1: in and around the AFC North, AFC, and NFL. Week
- 38:34Speaker 1: 8 kicked off last night. Brian Bacco already mentioned this
- 38:36Speaker 1: earlier in the show. The Green Bay Packers over the
- 38:39Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers, 27-19. Green Bay now 5-3. Panthers drop to 3-4.
- 38:45Speaker 1: Steelers will see the Panthers later on this season, and
- 38:47Speaker 1: as Brian alluded to, potentially could be flexed to the
- 38:50Speaker 1: day after Christmas. We'll wait and see if that comes together.
- 38:54Speaker 1: One o'clock on Sunday, two AFC North teams in action,
- 38:57Speaker 1: one on the road, one at home. A big one
- 38:59Speaker 1: for the Baltimore Ravens, and Lamar Jackson, as of yesterday
- 39:02Speaker 1: on Thursday, practiced fully for the second straight day this week.
- 39:05Speaker 1: So it looks to be, at least for now, unless
- 39:07Speaker 1: there's any setbacks, that Lamar Jackson will return to the
- 39:10Speaker 1: Ravens offense and return to the lineup. this Sunday in
- 39:13Speaker 1: Buffalo to face a Bills team that's 5-1. And as
- 39:16Speaker 1: we've talked about all week, Brian, pretty much the best
- 39:19Speaker 1: team in the NFL if we were to do those
- 39:20Speaker 1: power rankings. No disrespect to the undefeated Minnesota Vikings, but
- 39:24Speaker 1: the Bills at 5-1 have been very strong.
- 39:28Speaker 4: And real quick, Ed, going back to that Panthers-Packers game,
- 39:31Speaker 4: Panthers fired their defensive coordinator, Ejiro Evero, and another assistant
- 39:36Speaker 4: coach on defense after that game, so it doesn't really
- 39:40Speaker 4: affect too much other than they're making some changes already
- 39:44Speaker 4: to this point in the season, and like you said,
- 39:45Speaker 4: the Steelers will get them later in the year, but
- 39:48Speaker 4: I guess we're at that point in the NFL calendar.
- 39:51Speaker 4: Big trades are happening. Coaches, unfortunately, are losing their jobs.
- 39:55Speaker 4: We haven't seen any head coaches get the ax just yet,
- 39:59Speaker 4: but that was a pretty seismic move down there in
- 40:03Speaker 4: Carolina coming off of a lackluster defensive performance. But yeah, Bills-Ravens,
- 40:09Speaker 4: I'd say I'm pumped for it, but I'm not going
- 40:11Speaker 4: to see any of it. I'll be locked in on Steelers-Browns,
- 40:13Speaker 4: as many of you will be. But if you're watching
- 40:15Speaker 4: from the comfort of home, I'm sure you might have
- 40:18Speaker 4: the ability to flick back and forth or red zone
- 40:21Speaker 4: it or whatever you've got to do.
- 40:23Speaker 1: The other AFC North team in action is the Cincinnati Bengals.
- 40:25Speaker 1: They will host the Tennessee Titans, who are 1-6 on
- 40:28Speaker 1: the season, another opponent that the Steelers will see towards
- 40:31Speaker 1: the end of the season in Tennessee. That game will
- 40:33Speaker 1: be on the road in Nashville. But the Bengals host
- 40:36Speaker 1: this one, 4-2 Cincinnati versus 1-6 Tennessee. The Titans finally
- 40:42Speaker 1: got their first win of the season two weeks ago
- 40:45Speaker 1: when they beat the Colts last week, lost to the Browns,
- 40:47Speaker 1: as we've said, 27-24. But that was a close one.
- 40:50Speaker 1: They played the Browns very competitively last week. But the
- 40:53Speaker 1: Bengals come back in the second half to beat the
- 40:56Speaker 1: Ravens on the road in Baltimore. Impressive for Joe Burrow
- 40:59Speaker 1: and company. They'll look to try to get to 5-2
- 41:00Speaker 1: and stay paced with the winner of Brown Steelers this Sunday.
- 41:06Speaker 4: If the Titans win this game on the heels of
- 41:09Speaker 4: trading away Jeffrey Simmons into fifth for two firsts and
- 41:14Speaker 4: a fourth, just give Robert Sala coach of the year
- 41:18Speaker 4: because I think they are probably going to get their
- 41:20Speaker 4: doors blown off in Cincinnati. I don't know who's down
- 41:23Speaker 4: the work. We should do like a down bad power
- 41:27Speaker 4: rankings because the Titans are reeling. And don't get me wrong,
- 41:31Speaker 4: I think it could be a good deal for Tennessee
- 41:33Speaker 4: in the long run. I mean, two firsts is two firsts.
- 41:35Speaker 4: You can get some really good players with that draft capital,
- 41:38Speaker 4: which is a pet peeve of Rob King, that term.
- 41:41Speaker 4: You can get some really good players with those picks eventually.
- 41:45Speaker 4: But man, that is a blow. That is a gut
- 41:48Speaker 4: punch right now to the guys on this team. They're
- 41:51Speaker 4: down bad. The Eagles are down bad with everything that's
- 41:53Speaker 4: going on with them. The Colts are down bad, trading
- 41:56Speaker 4: away two franchise pillars this week. Seems like a very,
- 42:00Speaker 4: very soft spot for the Bengals in Cincinnati, and they
- 42:03Speaker 4: might win this one rather easily.
- 42:05Speaker 1: Now, wait a minute. Down bad. You just made a
- 42:07Speaker 1: Taylor Swift reference.
- 42:10Speaker 4: I don't know that that term belongs to Taylor Swift.
- 42:12Speaker 4: She may have popularized it and used it in a
- 42:14Speaker 4: famous song, but I don't think she came up with it.
- 42:18Speaker 1: I'm coming up with a Brian Bacco bingo card. Bacco's
- 42:21Speaker 1: bingo card. And now you've hit Will Smith, Fresh Prince
- 42:24Speaker 1: of Bel-Air during the show today. You just hit Taylor Swift.
- 42:27Speaker 1: You had the Uncle Tommy, uh, Name of the day,
- 42:30Speaker 1: phrase of the day, comment of the day, word of
- 42:32Speaker 1: the day. There we go. Now I'm struggling. Word of
- 42:34Speaker 1: the day. I mean, I'm going to start checking all
- 42:36Speaker 1: these boxes before the show, Brian Becker. You are making
- 42:39Speaker 1: your rounds so far. And remember, yesterday you made a
- 42:42Speaker 1: Jay-Z reference. Well, we recorded it yesterday. Okay, there you go.
- 42:46Speaker 1: I let down. I'm letting the behind the scenes go
- 42:48Speaker 1: here on the show at the tail end. Ashley Bastok,
- 42:50Speaker 1: we recorded that yesterday, aired it here today. But during
- 42:53Speaker 1: that Ashley interview, you referenced Jay-Z, and I completely blew
- 42:56Speaker 1: right by it. Not on purpose, my friend. When I
- 42:58Speaker 1: went back and listened just a little bit ago, I
- 43:00Speaker 1: should have gave you some credit for the Jay-Z comment.
- 43:03Speaker 1: Great job there.
- 43:05Speaker 4: Thank you, Ed. And I'm a longtime Jay-Z fan, so
- 43:08Speaker 4: I'm totally cool with him doing the Super Bowl halftime show.
- 43:13Speaker 4: I felt the same way about Kendrick Lamar. I'd never
- 43:16Speaker 4: heard a Bad Bunny song in my life. But yeah,
- 43:20Speaker 4: I know that he's getting a little bit up there
- 43:22Speaker 4: in age. I don't know how he's going to be
- 43:23Speaker 4: as a performer. I wouldn't have been crestfallen if it
- 43:27Speaker 4: weren't Jay-Z for the halftime show. But hopefully he'll put
- 43:32Speaker 4: on a good one. I don't think he's ever been
- 43:33Speaker 4: involved in any way. And obviously he's got a lot
- 43:36Speaker 4: of potential people to bring out from his own spouse, Beyonce,
- 43:40Speaker 4: to all the people he has connected with over the
- 43:43Speaker 4: years across many genres of music.
- 43:46Speaker 1: I like Jay-Z, too, and I liked how the announcement
- 43:49Speaker 1: from the NFL was one of my favorite Jay-Z songs.
- 43:51Speaker 1: Let me reintroduce myself right there at the beginning, so
- 43:55Speaker 1: good stuff. All right, hey, a couple other games just
- 43:57Speaker 1: to touch on here as we wrap up the show
- 43:58Speaker 1: for today. Chiefs-Broncos at 425. Chiefs 5-1, Broncos 5-2. Big
- 44:04Speaker 1: game in the AFC West. Patriots 4-3 at the Dolphins 1-5.
- 44:09Speaker 1: That's not really a big game for 25. Eagles 2-5
- 44:11Speaker 1: at Commanders 1-4 for Sunday night football. That's not really
- 44:14Speaker 1: a big game, but a good one on Monday night.
- 44:16Speaker 1: Bears 5-2 at Seahawks 4-3. So, you know, some good
- 44:20Speaker 1: AFC North matchups that we already talked about, Brian. You
- 44:23Speaker 1: have the Chiefs Broncos in the AFC West, and then
- 44:25Speaker 1: you got the Monday night game between the Bears and Seahawks. So,
- 44:28Speaker 1: Hit and miss for top games this week, but still
- 44:31Speaker 1: some good ones to watch here in Week 8.
- 44:34Speaker 4: Interesting note on that Monday night game. Also, did you
- 44:38Speaker 4: breeze right past Vikings-Lions? That's a huge one in the
- 44:40Speaker 4: NFC North at 1 o'clock. The 1 o'clock slate is
- 44:44Speaker 4: too loaded, Ed. You've got Steelers-Browns, Ravens-Bills, Vikings-Lions. I mean, geez,
- 44:49Speaker 4: spread the love around a little bit, NFL. Why don't you?
- 44:51Speaker 1: I did. I apologize to our listening audience. The 6-0
- 44:55Speaker 1: Vikings at the 4-2 Lions at 1 o'clock on Sunday. Yeah,
- 44:59Speaker 1: a bunch of good 1 o'clock games. So, yeah, how
- 45:02Speaker 1: did I miss that one?
- 45:03Speaker 2: You know what?
- 45:03Speaker 1: I saw the Cardinals, Cowboys, and Raiders, Jets, and Falcons, Buccaneers,
- 45:07Speaker 1: and I just breezed right through.
- 45:08Speaker 4: Free idea if you have the ability. DVR Ravens Bills
- 45:15Speaker 4: and or Lions Vikings and just watch them Sunday night
- 45:19Speaker 4: instead of Eagles commanders. Stay off social media. Well, try
- 45:22Speaker 4: not to look at the bottom ticker scroll, I guess.
- 45:25Speaker 4: And then it'll be like having an actual good Sunday
- 45:28Speaker 4: night football game instead of the NFC least. But OK,
- 45:31Speaker 4: moving on. Last point that I was about to make.
- 45:33Speaker 4: Bears Seahawks Monday night. Yes, it was a good matchup
- 45:35Speaker 4: at the start of this week. It's even better now.
- 45:38Speaker 4: I don't know if Quentin Nelson is going to line
- 45:39Speaker 4: up at left guard for Seattle, I don't know if
- 45:42Speaker 4: Jeffrey Simmons is going to be able to turn around
- 45:44Speaker 4: and play on short notice a defensive tackle for the Bears,
- 45:48Speaker 4: but I hope so because that'd be really cool. Two
- 45:50Speaker 4: guys traded this week going from kind of cellar dwellers
- 45:54Speaker 4: to teams with legitimate Super Bowl aspirations. I'm sure there
- 45:57Speaker 4: will be all sorts of chatter about those two guys
- 46:00Speaker 4: on Monday Night Football.
- 46:01Speaker 1: Brian, quickly, and I mean quickly, we have seconds, and
- 46:03Speaker 1: Wes Shuler and Matt Williamson are ready to throw something
- 46:05Speaker 1: at me. They're up next. Steelers, Browns, we both picked
- 46:08Speaker 1: the Steelers before the season. I'm guessing we're both staying
- 46:11Speaker 1: home with that pick.
- 46:13Speaker 4: I'm going to stay home. Too much history on their side,
- 46:16Speaker 4: but I think it's going to be another close one.
- 46:17Speaker 4: I think it's going to be another slugfest, barn burner,
- 46:21Speaker 4: slobber knocker, RIP Craig Wolfley. I'll say the Steelers pull
- 46:25Speaker 4: it out by a field goal.
- 46:27Speaker 1: I agree. I think it's under seven, that's for sure,
- 46:29Speaker 1: come this week. But I think the Steelers do hold
- 46:31Speaker 1: on and get the victory. That's going to do it
- 46:33Speaker 1: for the show for today and this week. We'll be
- 46:35Speaker 1: back at it on Monday post-Steelers Browns. Ahmed Troop alongside
- 46:40Speaker 1: Brian Bacco. Thanks for listening to the Steelers Report. Up next,
- 46:42Speaker 1: it's Wes Shuler and Matt Williamson on SNR's The Drive
- 46:46Speaker 1: right here on Steelers Nation Radio, part of the Steelers
- 46:48Speaker 1: Audio Network.