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Headlines and Wedding Bells · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it is officially the off season of the Almost
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  Speaker 2: Famous podcast, and we're going nowhere. Ashley, what's up?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's up. This is the smallest off season of
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  Speaker 3: all times, because before you know it, we'll be back,
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  Speaker 3: because I think it's like three weeks and then we
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  Speaker 3: come back to something amazing. We're gonna have Paradise and
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  Speaker 3: The Golden Bachelor both on Thursdays. Ben, we have like
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  Speaker 3: I feel stupid for the headline that is obviously first
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  Speaker 3: up this week, which is Hannah Godwin and Dylan Barber's wedding.
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  Speaker 3: It was magical. Remember how last week there was a
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  Speaker 3: headline that said that like perhaps they were like eloping,
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  Speaker 3: Like what was happening. We didn't see anything going on
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  Speaker 3: on Instagram. They're like, hey, what's up. We're in France,
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  Speaker 3: it's wedding week. And I had said something I just
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  Speaker 3: feel dumb because of course, like Hannah and Dylan are
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  Speaker 3: gonna like live it up, and of course they're gonna
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  Speaker 3: have bachelor friends there, but like we didn't have anything
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  Speaker 3: that had happened over the weekend because they got married
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  Speaker 3: on the weekdays. I think it was maybe Tuesday, okay,
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  Speaker 3: and oh my gosh, what a spectacular event it was.
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  Speaker 3: People were saying, this is the Bachelor's Well, why do
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  Speaker 3: you feel dumb wedding? I don't, I cause, like, why
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  Speaker 3: would I ever even say things like they're not going
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  Speaker 3: to have like a big to do, like they're going
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  Speaker 3: to a lope, or like they're not going to have
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  Speaker 3: bachelor friends there, like of course they are.
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  Speaker 2: Some people don't though. I mean, I I don't think
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  Speaker 2: it was a terrible take because maybe I was just
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  Speaker 2: out of the loop. But I didn't know that their
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  Speaker 2: wedding was coming up. I don't think they had talked
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  Speaker 2: about like their wedding happening this week.
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  Speaker 3: Oh but they but they did. We just didn't know
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  Speaker 3: where it was going to take, where it was going
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  Speaker 3: to be always seeing Hannah like try on dresses.
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  Speaker 2: But we just didn't know the extravagance of it. We
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  Speaker 2: didn't know the details at all of it.
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  Speaker 3: And it was so breathtaking. I wasn't there, but we've
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  Speaker 3: also like just stalked it on Instagram. It was just
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  Speaker 3: like it was that a French chateau really like a
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  Speaker 3: French palace. It's a Chateau de Villetti and it was
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  Speaker 3: about an hour outside of Paris. They had one hundred
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  Speaker 3: and forty five friends and family members. Actually, we are
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  Speaker 3: having Heather Martin on the show tomorrow so she can
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  Speaker 3: give her first hand detail, so I'll kind of breeze
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  Speaker 3: buy this. I did see Heather actually this weekend at
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  Speaker 3: another wedding, because this girl has been on a parade
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  Speaker 3: of three weddings over the past like week and a half.
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  Speaker 2: Whose wedding were you at?
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  Speaker 3: I was at my friend Courtney Bagby's wedding. She do
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  Speaker 3: you know Corny?
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 3: You must have met Courdy and so she's a huge
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  Speaker 3: Bachelor fan and she's an agent for some bachelor lums.
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  Speaker 3: So she just said, you know, de doctor. She was
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  Speaker 3: just like, I mean, it was like out right, just
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  Speaker 3: the fireworks went on for twenty minutes. Did you see
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  Speaker 3: the videos of the fireworks?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? It was beautiful wedding, all the details. Again, we
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  Speaker 2: were just interested in this wedding because obviously it was
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  Speaker 2: gorgeous wedding. There were bachelor lums there. Having Heather kind
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  Speaker 2: of tie some loosens for us and give us the
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  Speaker 2: behind the scenes will be really helpful and So again,
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  Speaker 2: if you're interested in this wedding, we're gonna get all
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  Speaker 2: the details with Heather Martin, who attended the wedding part
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  Speaker 2: of the Bachelor Nation. Few that went but the faithful
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  Speaker 2: that went on this week. That's a huge week for
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  Speaker 2: the Almost Famous podcast. Also, Ashley, we have a couple
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  Speaker 2: other weddings coming up. We have Dean and Kalin's wedding
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  Speaker 2: obviously coming up here in a few weeks. There's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of love in the air, and I have a
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  Speaker 2: feeling that, yes, as you mentioned, Paradise just a few
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  Speaker 2: short weeks away, Golden Bachelor will be airing as well.
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  Speaker 2: I have a feeling we're gonna be talking about brand new,
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  Speaker 2: beautiful love stories coming from these next few seasons.
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  Speaker 3: There's also so many of our past love stories that
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  Speaker 3: are all cementing things with weddings. Yeah, like this month
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  Speaker 3: and last so it was Hannah and Dylan, Marie and
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  Speaker 3: Kenny are coming up, and then we also have Serena
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  Speaker 3: and Joe who are technically still married. Then there's one
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  Speaker 3: other that I'm missing, I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean Thomas and Becca.
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  Speaker 3: Becca and Thomas.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but then.
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  Speaker 3: Duh, how did I forget the one wedding of them
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  Speaker 3: all that we're going to deven Caleins next month.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So there's some big weddings coming up, a lot
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  Speaker 2: of love happening in the air, which is a really
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  Speaker 2: exciting time for the Bachelor. I know that you and
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  Speaker 2: I in the past and we haven't been as much recently,
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  Speaker 2: but we've been critical of kind of the trajectory of
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  Speaker 2: the show. I think this last season showed the lack
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  Speaker 2: of drama, showed the more of the love story. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: we got a great love story from Charity Season that
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  Speaker 2: I think we'll be talking about for years to come.
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  Speaker 2: I will say though, this new kind of era of
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  Speaker 2: the Bachelor franchise, yes, it felt more dramatic at times,
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  Speaker 2: but it has been leading to what I feel like
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  Speaker 2: is a kind of plethora of weddings and cemented love
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  Speaker 2: stories more than maybe in the past. We've been doing
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  Speaker 2: this for eight years, and I think we're talking about
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  Speaker 2: weddings more than we ever have.
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  Speaker 3: So too, for sure, And I just want to say
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  Speaker 3: that I've you know, you know, out and about just
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  Speaker 3: talking to people about Charity Season over the past couple seasons.
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  Speaker 3: Before that, I was getting a lot of people being like,
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  Speaker 3: just like not that into it. Anymore, you know, just
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  Speaker 3: like I don't know if I feel the lead. People
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  Speaker 3: come up to me now they're like, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 3: did you love this season? Like She and Down are
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  Speaker 3: meant to be. So it's just nice to hear that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're in a good I think it's
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  Speaker 2: it's a good season for the Bachelor franchise. I do
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  Speaker 2: believe there is a lot of hope and a lot
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  Speaker 2: of forward excitement. I'm personally Ashley, as you said, just
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  Speaker 2: a few weeks away from Paradise and The Golden Bachelor.
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  Speaker 2: I know it is going to be a marathon of
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  Speaker 2: Bachelor in my life for for hours every week. But
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  Speaker 2: I will say that typically there's a sense of anxiety,
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  Speaker 2: like I don't know if I can commit to watching
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  Speaker 2: this many hours of the show every week. And Charity
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  Speaker 2: season was different because I enjoyed watching it, I was
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  Speaker 2: into it. I feel very excited I did about the
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  Speaker 2: Paradise and The Golden Bachelor. I am excited to tune in.
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  Speaker 2: I'm excited to see how they play out. And so
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  Speaker 2: this is a season of excitement for me when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to show, which I have not felt other than
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  Speaker 2: Charity Season in some years.
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  Speaker 3: I know and everybody and have got annoyed with us
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  Speaker 3: when we're just so harsh on Zach's season. Actually, Zach
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  Speaker 3: season was kind of enjoyable towards the end. I mean
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  Speaker 3: not kind of, I mean I really enjoyed his Top
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  Speaker 3: four era.
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  Speaker 2: And there's another great love story that comes from another
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  Speaker 2: great love story.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, speaking of love stories, yeah, speaking of love stories
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  Speaker 2: that have came from Paradise. Raven Gates reveals if she
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  Speaker 2: and Adam want another baby and discuss going from one
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  Speaker 2: kid to two kids.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, Raven did a Q and A on her Instagram.
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  Speaker 3: I love Raven's Instagram. I'm always whenever I see she
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  Speaker 3: has a fresh story up, I'm always interested to see
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  Speaker 3: what it's about. I just feel like her. She is
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  Speaker 3: like real about motherhood while also just being like such
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  Speaker 3: a now mother that I'm like, you do make it
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  Speaker 3: look easy, even though I know it's not easy for you.
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  Speaker 3: I just like watching her motherhood anyway. So she obviously
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  Speaker 3: has just about an over month year old and the
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  Speaker 3: month youre a month old, and then she also has
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  Speaker 3: Gates who's a little over a year and a half.
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  Speaker 3: And now people are of course asking in the Q
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  Speaker 3: and a's are you going to have another one? So
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  Speaker 3: the direct answer is it's kind of how this one,
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  Speaker 3: you know, how they go with two for right now.
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  Speaker 3: But they are planning out their house. They're building a
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  Speaker 3: house next year and Adam has made sure that in
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  Speaker 3: the plans there are three kids rooms. So i'd say,
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  Speaker 3: i'd say expect more from them. She is having a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of a rough time right now. Just this
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  Speaker 3: Morning's You're you know, she said that Gates is sick
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  Speaker 3: and she has metisas. I think I'm saying it correctly.
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  Speaker 3: It's when the ducks in your in your breast get
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  Speaker 3: clogged up and.
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  Speaker 2: Becomes so soulful yes so.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah so, and it makes you have like other full
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  Speaker 3: body symptoms. And she is going to the doctor, i
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  Speaker 3: think today to get that fixed out. But she's like
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  Speaker 3: really disappointed because the breastfeeding journey this time around was
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  Speaker 3: going a lot easier than it was for Gates, and
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  Speaker 3: now with this she just this week kind of stopped
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  Speaker 3: producing milk and hasmetisis. And that's all a rough situation,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, she'll get through. We're thinking about her.
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  Speaker 2: I Uh, this is just a side story. I wonder
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  Speaker 2: if it's the same thing. I forget. I was in
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  Speaker 2: high school and I got into my buddy's hot tub
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  Speaker 2: and it was the chemicals were not up to balance,
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  Speaker 2: and all of us that were in the hot tub
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  Speaker 2: got out and.
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  Speaker 3: Like I remember this, yeah, you telling me this.
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  Speaker 2: It was like the next day, I woke up so sick.
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  Speaker 2: I had lumps, like all of my like pores were
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  Speaker 2: like clogged up in lumpy and I like fevers and sweats.
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  Speaker 2: It was one of like I only remember that because
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  Speaker 2: it was one of the most painful experiences. And so
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if that's the same thing that Raven has,
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  Speaker 2: because if so, and she's raising a child right now,
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  Speaker 2: Like I can't imagine like I was bedridden, like I could.
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  Speaker 2: I was such a baby during that time.
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  Speaker 3: It's definitely not the same thing, but it could be
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  Speaker 3: like related, yeah, something with it. And then I just
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  Speaker 3: say that she also like they seem to be on
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  Speaker 3: dates all the time, and I'm so jealous. I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: they just like seem to have the best relationship. And
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  Speaker 3: somebody was like, how do you like always have date nights?
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  Speaker 3: And she says that she schedules them in advance, so
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  Speaker 3: like they know like for the month, what nights they're
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  Speaker 3: going out to just be the you know, just have
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  Speaker 3: quality time. And then I told Jared to go. Jared,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm jealous of this, like can we do this?
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  Speaker 3: And no, Now we've decided that every other Wednesday, we're
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  Speaker 3: gonna do it. Thanks to Raven and Adam.
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  Speaker 2: My parents did that. My parents had date nights consistently
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  Speaker 2: when I was growing up. And then I also talked
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  Speaker 2: to Jessica's parents and they would do this. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know when theirs was, but like a lot of couples
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  Speaker 2: I talk to who have been married, it feels like
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  Speaker 2: one it's not the secret sauce, but it's a piece
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  Speaker 2: of a healthy relationship I think is having something scheduled,
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  Speaker 2: getting away. I also think it's good for the kids
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  Speaker 2: because they're you know, they're not dependent on you always
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  Speaker 2: being around, and they kind of just expect on Tuesday
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  Speaker 2: nights every week or every other week or once a month,
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  Speaker 2: you know, mom and dad are going to go out
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  Speaker 2: and they're gonna come back, and they're a little happier
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  Speaker 2: than they usually are, a little more giggly, and like,
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  Speaker 2: I think it's good for the kids to see. I'm
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  Speaker 2: just I'm impressed with Raven and Adam's commitment. They're just
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  Speaker 2: a great couple to be around too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they are.
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  Speaker 2: They're a lot of fun. One couple that didn't work
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  Speaker 2: out was Clayton and Susie. I still even reading this
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  Speaker 2: headline am shocked. It's it's like almost wild to me
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  Speaker 2: that they were ever together. Like, I don't even picture
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  Speaker 2: When I think see Susie's Instagram, I don't remember her
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  Speaker 2: with Clayton. And when I see Clayton's there, I don't
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  Speaker 2: remember him with Susie.
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  Speaker 3: I think of her with like justin just Glaze, because
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  Speaker 3: she does like a lot of content with Justin Gliz.
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  Speaker 3: She's in that friend group, and I'm like, they could
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  Speaker 3: be cute.
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  Speaker 2: They could be cute. Well, here's the headline. Susie Evans
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  Speaker 2: reveals the most disgusting and frustrating thing about dating in
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  Speaker 2: La Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so she said that everyone is really career driven,
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  Speaker 3: and she says, maybe I'm part of the problem, but no,
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  Speaker 3: there's a bigger problem happening and it doesn't really have
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  Speaker 3: to do with dating culture, although it does kind of,
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  Speaker 3: she goes it does this is like he's a stream
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  Speaker 3: of consciousness. Basically, she goes. The thing I find the
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  Speaker 3: most annoying about dating in la is when I'm not
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  Speaker 3: even trying to date, Like, for example, a man approaches
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  Speaker 3: me with a business opportunity and I'm down to get
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  Speaker 3: together with this person to work on a project, and
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  Speaker 3: then this person has to take me out and wants
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  Speaker 3: to take me on a date and get to know
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  Speaker 3: me on a different level. When I express that I'm
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  Speaker 3: not interested, then all those business opportunities get pulled out
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  Speaker 3: from underneath you.
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  Speaker 2: It's fine, really disgusting.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is really gross. She goes, I make money
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  Speaker 3: on social media and I have a videography business. I
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  Speaker 3: film weddings. I'm good. I don't need your business if
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  Speaker 3: it means I have to date you. And then she
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  Speaker 3: continues by saying, I just find that it to be
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  Speaker 3: the most disgusting and frustrating thing that I've experienced.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 3: I see when people move to big cities that are
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  Speaker 3: trying to make something new, people see them as vulnerable
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  Speaker 3: and try to capitalize on it. I am so grateful
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  Speaker 3: that I don't give about money and I don't need
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  Speaker 3: this person's opportunity. I literally cannot be bothered.
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  Speaker 2: I just find this like there's like, I don't know, Ash,
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  Speaker 2: there's something. I mean, there's a lot of things about
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  Speaker 2: this that just like really feel wrong and unhealthy. And
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  Speaker 2: it feels like the stories of the past that we
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  Speaker 2: would like to believe that we've moved past and moved through.
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  Speaker 2: But the fact that people are interested in working with
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  Speaker 2: somebody with an idea of romantic relationship kind of being
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  Speaker 2: the at the forefront feels just gross at every level.
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  Speaker 2: And I've never like dated in LA, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: obviously used to spend a lot of time in La.
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  Speaker 2: Never dated in La, so you but you had have
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  Speaker 2: lived there. I mean, is this something that you were
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  Speaker 2: familiar with? Does it feel like this is the dating
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  Speaker 2: scene in LA where I mean, for me, I always
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  Speaker 2: feel like LA exhausted me because yes, it was always
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  Speaker 2: like who's doing more, who's doing better, who's making more money?
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  Speaker 2: What project are you working on today? And it just
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  Speaker 2: felt tiring to me because there's many times in my life,
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  Speaker 2: especially recently, I want to answered I'm not working on
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  Speaker 2: anything new, like there's nothing like, there's nothing excite me
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  Speaker 2: as exciting going on other than me being happily content
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  Speaker 2: and the stuff that I'm already invested into. LA always
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  Speaker 2: tired me out. So I would love to hear your
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  Speaker 2: thoughts on dating in LA and also kind of the
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  Speaker 2: social scene.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I'm so very few dated, you know,
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  Speaker 3: what do you mean? I hated going on dates so much.
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  Speaker 3: When I think about days in LA, A couple come
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  Speaker 3: to mind. One one I think I've shared here because
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  Speaker 3: it was just the most the utter, most disgusting experience
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  Speaker 3: I've ever had because the guy, within an hour of
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  Speaker 3: knowing me, asked when the last time I had sex was,
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  Speaker 3: and then he also asked me when the last time
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  Speaker 3: I did something like uh like, let's just say third
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  Speaker 3: base for the PG audience, and I was like, wait,
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  Speaker 3: what that was? Within an hour? Little did he know
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  Speaker 3: that he was talking to the bachelor's virgin. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 3: that was my experience.
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  Speaker 2: And was like, hey, when was the last time he had sex?
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  Speaker 2: Like they that's just such.
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  Speaker 3: When was the last time you got laid?
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  Speaker 2: Oh goodness, that's just something I mean, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: that's just something I would never think.
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  Speaker 3: You imagine.
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  Speaker 2: No, it just feels so weird and it feels so
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  Speaker 2: uncomfort and like I'm wondering if that is I mean,
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  Speaker 2: there's just here's my here's my comment to that one.
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  Speaker 2: That's just a weird question too. That person has terrible game.
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  Speaker 2: Terrible game, like if that is what they lean on,
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  Speaker 2: if they can't be funny enough, if they can't be
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  Speaker 2: witty enough, if they can't be engaging enough or interested enough,
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  Speaker 2: and you as a human to like get you interested
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  Speaker 2: in maybe having some type of romantic relationship with them,
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  Speaker 2: if they are interested in a romantic relationship, if they
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  Speaker 2: have to like throw out, hey, when's the last time
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  Speaker 2: you did this? Like that feels like that feels like
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  Speaker 2: freshman year of high school?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah right, or like when you would go around a
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  Speaker 3: circle like yeah, you.
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  Speaker 2: Play never have I ever? So that everybody like gets
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  Speaker 2: a little fired up, and like it's like it's real weird,
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  Speaker 2: like when you're kids.
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  Speaker 3: And I hated never have I ever because I had
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  Speaker 3: obviously never had I ever done anything?
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  Speaker 2: When was the last time you made out with your
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  Speaker 2: poster of the Jonas?
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  Speaker 3: But brother, now that would be more willing to talk about.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, that's what I think of.
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  Speaker 2: I just think it's weird. I feel bad for Susie.
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  Speaker 2: She seems like a sweet girl and she has some
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: good friends. I'm sure she's gonna be fine. I hope. Hey,
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: next week I am going to be out on the
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: Almost Famous podcast. The reason is, as we've mentioned before,
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Jessica and my parents and my in laws and myself
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: are going to Italy. This was a gift for sixtieth
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: birthdays for my dad's retirement. It's just gonna be a
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: really great trip for the six of us to be
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: together and go from Rome to Florence to the Amalfi Coast. Well,
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: I'm not the only Bachelor contestant spending time in Italy.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: In fact, our headline is this Victoria Fuller vacations in
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: Italy with boyfriend Greg Grippo. Now, if you remember when
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: they first announced their relationship, they had tattoos, because yes,
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: they were spotted in Italy. Even though they were claiming
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: they weren't together in Italy, they were. They had matching tattoos.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: But they went back and it sounds like they're just
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: getting back into the States from Italy.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost like a year reunion. I think it's
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: like one month month off from like their last year's
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: trip to Italy.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, that makes sense.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: They are like obviously like one back on. Remember a
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: couple like about a month ago, people were thinking that
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: they were broken up because they hadn't posted a ton
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: of each other for about like six weeks. So now
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: they're together, we need to get them on the podcast
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: so we can like really talk about if there was
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: an off moment. Because the two of them are showing
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: their sexy selves on boats and you know, now on
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: the beach and just living up their young wives. They
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: look great and they're now home because Victoria was like,
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: you can We're not gonna this is the last post.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: It's just like this is the last, you know, sexy post.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: They're a very attractive couple.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Like, yeah they're sexy, Yeah that.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Both of them, you know. Yeah, Like I feel like
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: they go to Italy and they make it there looked at. Yeah,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: they're looked at.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and they like probably do the things that you
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: see in like Italian posters. They probably like throw each
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: other against walls and make out and like the little alleys.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure that's wild. Yeah they are there.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: I was like, I was going to say they had
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: that sex appeal.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's never been me. I would love it.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: I try or like we're like yeah, we don't. We're like,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: you know, attractive people, but like, just like we don't
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: just ooze that like.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: No, no, I mean I don't have that. Well it's
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: the sex panther. I don't have that. I don't have
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: that energy pouring from me very healthy relationship.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: But I could. I just like wish I could. But
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: like even when I try, I'm like, this could last
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: thirty seconds before I start laughing at myself.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Give me, like ye, give me a twenty second like
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Instagram clip where I could like twenty seconds pose on
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: the beach, like making a black and white photo and
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: you know, be sweating a bit. I might be able
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: to pull it off. But then right after that, like
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: I'm putting on my snorkel and.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: Well, did you see what Catherine posted Catherine Low No, okay,
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: so she just did a really funny Instagram reel. I
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: think it got a lot of views. So it says
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: what I ordered versus like what I got. So she
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: like has a video she has herself on the computer
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: like on Amazon ordering a video that she sees of
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: Sean when he's on the Bachelor being like super ripped
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: and like in the pool and all sweaty and like
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: wet and dripping, and he looks great. Right, and then
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: she goes what came and then it's him in the
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: pool with goggles on.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's true, Like I have my flippers. I'm
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: not against some flippers, some goggles.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Flippers are fun. I'm all about goggles. And if you
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: take me back to like middle school, high school, I
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: always wore a nose plug in the pool, like my
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: my backyard pool, because then I could like really get
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: under the water without worrying about any and going out
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: my nose.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Actually, there's nothing acially on the diving board. There's nothing
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: more hot than a nose plug than a high school
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: high schooler with a nose plug and goggles going on
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: the bottom of the pool. It's great, we're doing fine.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: We made it work and we're happy and we're doing
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: all right.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Uh all right, Well, I want you to give twenty
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: or thirty seconds for Instagram for all of our amusements
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: when you're in Italy and do something like this, just
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: like pretend that you're Greg and Victoria and post it
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: for us.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: I can do that. I can do that, I can
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: pull something better. Remind you. Yeah, please just text me
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: and say, hey, Ben, don't forget to be hot. Yeah,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: don't forget to be Hot final headline. This would have
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: made me nervous actually, because I saw a quote from
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: somebody named Higgins in here and I was like, oh, no,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: what I do? Like, what interview did I take? That
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: went backwards fast? Well, it's not me, it's somebody I
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: don't even know but shares the same last name. But
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: this has been this headline has been coming across the
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: internet a lot here recently, and I think the conversation
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: around reality television and the treatment of the contestant it's
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: becoming more and more popular one because Bethany Frankel has
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: kind of headed up this conversation and said, hey, you know,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: reality television needs to be unionized or there needs to
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: be better representation. The people need to be treated better
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: that come on the show. They don't know what they're
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: going to get into. All these things have been kind
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: of popping up recently. I believe we're going to be
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: following stories like this for years to come, where people
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: are really fighting for the contestants that give themselves up
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: for reality television. Well, it's never been a secret, Ashley.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, you and I knew when we even went
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: on that The Bachelor is a really difficult situation for
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: anybody to get thrown in, especially anybody that's hurting, anybody
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: that has emotional kind of you know, damage or trauma,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: anybody that's healing in their life. The Bachelor has always
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: kind of exposed that, and it doesn't really feel like
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: in most experiences the show helps heal people. I do
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: think there's some some healing and kind of getting it
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: out in the open and talking about it. But the
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Bachelor contestants have consistently came off the show and said, hey,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: this show wrecked me, this show hurt.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Me, okay, but not like not us. So I think
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: there's like there's different groups, there's different experiences. For sure,
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: there's people like us that are so grateful for it.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: It got us either like for me out of my
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: comfort zone and literally like embraced my whole personality, and
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: then like just look at the journey that you've been on,
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Like for us, it was one for the best, and
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: then their cast that it's the total opposite experience. Well,
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: I mean we were actually sharing this story. I was
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: with Heather, you know, Ma and then McKenna this weekend
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: at this wedding, and we were also at a table
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: with a Love Is Blind contestant and some Big Brother contestants.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: So it's like the reality TV table and it was
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: fun exchanging stories. But it's really amazing to see the
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: range of experiences one can have.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: I agree. I mean, you know, and I think I
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: speak to this, and I think of Olivia Creedy, who
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: was on me too the season of The Bachelor I
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: was able to be a part of, and it felt
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: like a tremendous person had a really hard experience, and
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: I did not have that type of experience. My experience
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: was I've always said I've gotten through this thing unscathed,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: and for whatever reason, that's my story. And I'm a
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: fan of the show and I'm a supporter of the show,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: and I would tell anybody still to go on the
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: show because of my experience. But I do think of
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: the Olivia's of the world and go, yeah, this hurt her.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I heard her deeply, and I don't know how how
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: well the healing process began. Well, anyways, here's the headline,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: and it's an interesting one. Bachelor producers admit to tormenting
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: contestants to make for dramatic television. The quote here is
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: you better cry now. Ashley walk us through the story.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: There are previous Bachelor producers who are quoted here.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: We don't know them.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: We don't know them. They were they were gone before
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: we got there. But it is a big headline.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay. So there's this show it to docuseries on
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Vice TV. It's called the Dark Side of the two
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: thousands and it goes through you know, different things of
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: the two thousands and you know, that was really the
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: birth time of reality TV. And they have this guy
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: named Michael Carroll, a former Bachelor producer that it gave.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: You know, he sat down and talked about it, so
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: I'll read the quotes. He's a like in meetings when
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: they were coming up with the cast, they were like,
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: we need a bimbo, we need a hoe, we need
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: a ditsy girl that everyone can make fun of. They
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: would learn about their contestants backstories and wield them like
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: a weapon. She just went through a breakup, she just
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: got over anorexia. She has been a bridesmaid fifteen times,
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: but never a bride. She's gonna someone day one. She's
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: a virgin and she's never gonna She's never gonna. That's reality.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: That's what they want to know. What's gonna happen in
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: that house before you know they were getting there. And
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: then they said that they would bring up topics that
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: would really make people emotional because they know they know
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: the backstory, so they bring up the stories like this
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: one girl their dad left them when they're eight years old,
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: or they were left at the altar, and that's how
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be. If you want to be on The Bachelor,
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: you're gonna know these things and they're gonna be brought
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: up in the interview room and then they'd be like
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: he also said something about the like contestant, why didn't
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: cry enough? They would be booted off the show, or
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: like the long awaited tears, like someone's gonna cry right now,
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: and if you don't cry enough, we're gonna find a
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: way to get you out and we're gonna make you
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: cry when you leave because you didn't get the Bachelor,
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: so you better cry now, Like, Okay, you know this
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: is nothing surprising to us.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: There's nothing surprising here. I do think the first part
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: of this is more damning. Well, it's just something I
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: never know, but it's something I didn't know the behind
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: the scenes of right, you and I have talked about
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: how much of the behind the scenes we feel like
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: we know and that we do know based on our
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: time on the show and knowing some of the producers
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: post their time on the show. I didn't. I didn't
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: know that when they went through the casting process there
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: was a defining role that each person played. I knew
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: they knew who who the people were. I know they
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: did like a psychological exam. I know they know this stuff,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: they know us well, but I didn't know they were
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: actually looking for these types of people. I guess I
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: would be oblivious at times to that. It just it's
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: not it's not okay that they say, hey, we need
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: we're gonna have this person, and this is what the
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: person's gonna end up doing on Night one. If they don't,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of role they play here anymore,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: and so we'll probably convince the lead to get rid
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: of them early because they're not really, you know, carrying
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: the weight of the role that we wanted them to.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: I don't love that. Yeah, I don't like it at
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: all exactly.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like that either. I don't think of
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: it like that, but I do think them stereotyping, like
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: you know, undermine. Mine was definitely like dateless Virgin. You
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: know that's like super over the top. And then there's
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: like you were definitely like Golden Boy. You know that
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: they were like Golden Boy, like we're not going to
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: touch it. We just want him to look.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Great, which is probably why my experience was and you know,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: the the benefits of that was my experience was pretty
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: okay because it was you know, I didn't have any
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: storyline of trying to mess with me. I just I see,
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: you know, I obviously I've lived that experience. I've seen
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: my friends who I know were struggling at the time
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: go through this process, and I don't know what their
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: stories would be. Now. You know a lot of these
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: people have kind of disappeared after the show, and so
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know what they think of when they think
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: of the show.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: I think that if you don't really like this is
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: kind of sad to say, but if you don't really
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: remember them, they probably didn't have a title that was strong,
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: and the Bridges probably didn't imagine them being around that long. Yeah,
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: they were like kind of the fillers. Yeah, So like,
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: what would you say that somebody who was well known
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: like Wells, Yeah, what would you say that they thought
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: of him going in.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: I think they knew he was going to be a
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: good narrator, Like he was going to be a really
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: good contestant to have because he was a comedic, he
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: what he would play along. He understood the entertainment world,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: so he could almost produce himself, and they knew he
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: could narrate situations and make it entertaining for the audience,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: which I think is a fine role to stereotype somebody
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: as is this person's gonna be a really good storyteller
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: and I know, wells is that?
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: What do you think that Jared was.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: I think Jared was a golden I think Jared was, hey.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: This is a alternative golden boy.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and I think Jared had a lot more.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: I think Jared was a nerd in a lot of ways. Right.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: He was the comic book movie fan who you know,
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: spoke in movie quotes and wore a Superman shirt on night.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: One Man was definitely in like his audition tape.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so he kind of was that lovable every you know,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: a guy that you would know who's incredibly good looking.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: And then obviously there was a date specifically planned for
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Jared because he came in with the long kind of
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: like almost bowl cut, shaggy hair, and then they give
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: him this like, yeah, they they give him kind of
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: the glow up date where he gets a makeover and
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: they put him in a suit, and then all of
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: a sudden, everybody sees Jared differently than they did before.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: And I think that was it too, because he was relatable,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: he was kind, he was nice, he was likable. Uh,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: and then obviously you give him a makeover and you're like, goodness, gracious,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: this dude like a lot more attractive than I ever
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: seen him before, and he stayed that way obviously, So
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: I think that was Jared's You know, there was obviously
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: people on that season at the Bachelorette, like the jj
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Lings and the Clinton Artist. Is that they they played
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: they played into a lot more they you know, I
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: don't know what their stereotype was, but they definitely capitalized
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: and used them at the beginning of the show for
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: character development more than anybody else mm hm.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: And now I will admit that I definitely want to know,
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: like basically I just knew. I was, like, I know
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: that the characterizes people. I know, these of me stick
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: out versus other people in the bunch, so like I
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: kind of was like, I wouldn't all lean into it.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that might be the suggestion. Typically when
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: somebody asked me, you know, they're going through the casting
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: process or they're going to become the lead and they
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: reach out, uh to chat and that hasn't happened in
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: years to me. I haven't spoken to a Bachelor since
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Matt James before their show, but I think I would
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: tell them do a deep dive on yourself real quick,
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: understand what that you like, kind of think through like
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: who are you going to be on this show and
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: understand if that's somebody you want to be displayed as
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: or not. And if you don't, then they'll go on
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: the show. If you do. If you're like no, I'm
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: comfortable with this kind of stereotype and I'm comfortable being
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: the jock, or I'm comfortable being the one that stands
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: up for the right reasons every time, or you know whatever,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: then go on it. Like be confident in that, but
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: if not, then don't do it.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Be self aware and find humor in yourself as well.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, it's people to take themselves too seriously. Now,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: I don't think I mean obviously from this last season.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: If we look at Charity season, I think Braden would
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: be the villain quote unquote, right, the villain from this season,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: the one that has the the most you know, controversial
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: storylines or the one that people disliked. I don't think
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: the show is going to ruin his life. I do think.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: I do think. Yeah, in the past couple of seasons,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: there aren't people that stand out that it's like, hey,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: this is gonna like wreck you, And that might be that.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: I think we could probably point to the show changing
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: and how they handle their contestants so that they're not
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: coming off and being like, yeah, I'm I'm a mess.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: Oh. I think they also kind of allow paradise to
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: be the redemption stories that people with that feeling about them.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: M hm.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a story that's going to be playing out.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Producers are speaking out. I think as producers get older,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: they have some years removed from these shows. And I'm
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: not just talking The Bachelor here, these reality Tilvin shows
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: they have messes around all of them. Right. The drama
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: of these shows are created by humans, and those humans
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: are gonna have to carry the weight of that. And
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: so I do think this is a conversation that will
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: be coming up more and more as these producers get older.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: We're now, you know, twenty years removed from the start
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: of really reality television. Some of these producers have moved
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: on to other jobs they feel more comfortable speaking out, So,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: you know, we'll see how it plays out. My hope
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: is that these shows get healthier and that we have
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: more seasons like Charities. Yes, we might not remember the
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: villain from the season. That's fine with me, as long
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: as the love story exists at the end. That's what
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: I'm looking for in Paradise. That's what I'm looking for
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: in The Golden Bachelor. At least, that's my hope the
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Golden Bachelor, definitely the Golden Bachelor. Bachelor headline is this,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Amanda Stanton is having a baby girl. She posted this
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: on Instagram.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: She did. She kept talking about it and teasing it
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: with us last week and she posted the pictures of
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: the girls, her girls and her husband popping the balloon
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: and in came pink confetti, Let's.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Go Bachelor in Paradise and lum Lace Morris is pregnant
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: with her first child. This is hot off the press.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: We know nothing about this. She just posted on Instagram
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: said that she's having a surprise baby, a glorious surprise.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: And we don't know who the boyfriend or the dad is.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: We do know, we do well, we do know him
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: based on Instagram, but we don't like have any photos
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: of the two of them together on her Instagram. Yeah,
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: and he's private. I tried, ye, maybe in Denver, you
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: would have had like some more common things. You should
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: get on Facebook. You can probably see him on Facebook.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: So yeah, we'll find out. We're gonna get lace on
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: the podcast because I need to know how this is
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: going down.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: You need to know how it happened.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: I need to know.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you after the podcast. You know how you
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: get pregnant? Yes, I have a good Oh.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: I thought you texted her and was like, so, who's
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: the guy?
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Oh No, I don't know much about that. The Bachelor,
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Hannah Brown is engaged to Adam Willard.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: This is a big, big one.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: The big ones.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: They posted some photos from this very romantic proposal.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: People has the exclusive on this. They got engaged on
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: August twenty fourth, but announced it today aka Monday the
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: twenty eighth. It happened at Bolt Farm treehouse in Whitwell, Tennessee.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Here I got to add in here you want to
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: know some crazy you were there that day? No, Jessica
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: and Hannah Brown went on a trip together to Bolt
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Farm like five months ago.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that's so crazy.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, huh so.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah. She just thought they were going to go hang
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: out with friends. Little did she know that her parents,
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: her family was actually staying on property and they surprised
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: them after he got down on one knee in a
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: very intimate moment which was surrounded by flowers and rose
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: petals and candles and then a little deets. Oh my god,
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: I said, deet skin on the ring. It's from Ring
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: Concierge and it has three rings to represent the present,
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: the future, in the past. And she says the center
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: one is the biggest, which is the one that represents
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: the present. She says, that's always my favorite part of
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: our relationship. That's really really sweet. And another sweet quote
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: that I love that she said about him is I
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: love his calming presence and big heart and how he
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: accepts and loves all versions of me, even the crazy version.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Don't we all have it, Ashley. We do have a
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: big week. We have some great interviews coming up, some
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: really exciting times for the Almost Famous podcast as we
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: do I'm not even gonna say fill in this offseason.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: As we walk through this offseason leading up to then
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: the airing of Bachelor and Paradise in the Golden Bachelor,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: and then fairly soon after that we'll be jumping right
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: into the next Bachelor with Joey. But this is all
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: we got for today, and this is all the headlines.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: So until next time, I've been Ben, have been Ashley.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: See you guys.
• 37:03
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