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Michelle Lazor: Combatting Unbiblical Ideologies With Vetted, Pro-Family Books · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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  defending biblical Christianity.
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  No topic, off limits.
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  And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
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  Franz family and Christ, thank you so much for tuning in to another episode.
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  We've got some good information to tell you about books and where you can get great books
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  and based on a biblical world view.
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  I'm going to just going to give you the website before we dive in because I've got to do
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  take care of some business first.
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  It's mud hen mama dot com mud hen mama m a m a dot com.
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  We're going to get to Michelle laser in just a minute, but you know, I get emails and
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  I just don't know why I didn't think of sharing them with you.
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  So I don't get a ton, but and they're mostly friendly.
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  I just want to share some of the emails we've been getting is just one.
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  This is from Melody.
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  She says, Hello, been watching for a while and joy your various guests and topics.
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  Would you consider doing a program or two on the various Bible versions and their differences?
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  Great idea for a topic.
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  I would do that with one of my pastor friends.
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  Thank you, Melody.
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  I would go with new American standard new King James version and ESV.
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  The Geneva Bible is also awesome.
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  That was the first one.
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  One of the first or I think it may have been the first one brought to America, Geneva Bible,
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  but I'll go with new American standard is the one that I first purchased.
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  I still love that version.
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  So I want to bring in today's guest.
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  Now, Michelle laser, I love, I love the last name.
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  She's with mud hen mama dot com.
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  She got an amazing story and just a phenomenal ministry and what she does there, getting great
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  books into the hands of Christians, conservatives, those who want the truth, those who want to
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  actually still read, which is just a lost art.
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  You know, not that reading is an art, but Michelle, thanks for your time today.
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  Good to see you.
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  Thank you so much for having me, David.
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  I'm excited.
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  So am I just found out you're in New Jersey.
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  Our friend Matthew mayor is from there.
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  We regular guests here on the program, but you grew up in the Midwest.
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  So I want to start with you've been married for almost about 25 years.
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  You have 10 children.
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  So we have to start there.
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  You and your husband met in college and then you both came to Christ.
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  Let's go back before we get into what you're doing at mud hen mama and we're going to
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  talk about the name too.
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  Have you explained all that?
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  Tell us about your family, beautiful family.
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  Thank you.
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  Well, yeah, so that was definitely us having 10 kids with not in our plan initially at
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  all.
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  We were not believers when we first met and it was just the Lord.
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  I mean, that's really what it comes down to, obviously, is the Lord, but it's actually
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  an amazing story just because God is, He was just so faithful.
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  We actually thought we were done after number four, who is actually a junior right now.
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  I think I look at her and I'm like, oh, my goodness, I can't believe that she was almost
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  going to be the last one.
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  And we had six more after her.
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  So we actually were in Korea when we had we were in a Bible study and we were having it.
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  It was a Bible study with two other families and it was sort of funny is that the one family
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  had five kids.
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  I think she was pregnant with number five and I was pregnant with number four, but our
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  kids lined up perfectly because they were all the same ages, but she had a set of
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  twins.
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  And so that was how, you know, the kids lined up anyway.
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  So I remember asking her, you're done, right, because, you know, you'd have to be crazy
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  to have more than five kids.
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  It's nuts.
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  And she was like, I don't know.
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  And I thought that that's so strange.
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  Why would she say that, you know?
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  And so we were, like I said, we were doing a Bible study and it was shepherding a child's
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  heart, which is I think I always recommend that book.
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  I think it's an amazing book that really helps me.
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  It really helps to not only strengthen me as a parent, but also just it's like, help
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  me to see, you know, how, how best to shepherd our children.
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  I just think it's, it's such an important book anyway.
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  So when we were all discussing things, I realized that I didn't want to cut the Lord
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  off.
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  My husband and I talked a lot about it.
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  We prayed, we, you know, kept going to scripture and, you know, I think the most important
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  thing I always tell people, I don't think everyone needs to have 10 kids.
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  I don't think that's the point, but I think the point is to be open handed and to go
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  to the Lord and prayer and say, Lord, what would you have me do?
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  Because I think we trust God in all areas of our life except for our children and how
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  many children we're going to have.
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  And so we felt that, you know, we wanted to just trust the Lord on it.
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  And so we did.
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  And so we were in Korea.
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  When we went to Korea, we had two and our children were three and one.
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  And then we were there for nine years.
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  It was such a blessing, even getting to Korea was such a just creepy story that, you know,
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  I was working.
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  I really wanted to come home and be with my kids.
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  And my husband was a teacher at the time and there was no way we could swing it.
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  We were living out in Alexandria, Virginia.
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  It's very expensive for those of you who are familiar with the area.
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  And so, but God put it on my husband's heart to go to look overseas.
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  He had an experience in Hungary and he loved it.
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  And he was like, I think we need to go overseas.
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  My background is actually, I was born in Puerto Rico.
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  So I thought, hey, let's go to a Hispanic country.
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  Be great.
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  I can, you know, help my Spanish because my Spanish isn't so hot.
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  And, you know, that would be awesome.
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  But as God would have it, and we ended up, the doors were all shut except for Korea.
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  And it was the last place that I think either one of us would have expected to go to because
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  it was just, you know, we didn't have anything against it, but we certainly didn't have an
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  affinity for it.
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  There was nothing that was drawing us there.
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  But the Lord did.
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  And so, we loved it, you know, it's funny because our kids, I'm like, I think my kids
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  think they're more Korean than Puerto Rican.
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  But because they love all things Korean and it's just, yeah, we had a really wonderful
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  time in Korea.
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  It was a huge time of growth for us.
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  And so we ended up having four more children out in Korea, so you can imagine we were definitely
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  the anomaly there.
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  We had, at the time, we had six children when we finally ended up leaving.
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  And then we came back to the United States.
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  We ended up having number seven, so shortly after we arrived.
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  And then we had twins a little while after that.
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  So that was a humongous challenge.
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  That was hard, hard, hard.
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  It was a very humbling experience.
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  I thought I had all my ducks in a row and certainly nothing can challenge me because I
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  already had, you know, so many children.
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  I had seven children.
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  But it was, it was hard.
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  So I'm so blessed that they're now seven years old.
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  So I can say, I can look back and say, you know, praise God.
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  It was, I don't remember a whole lot from the experience, but God was so faithful and
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  he was so good.
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  He just, you know, every day we got through it and, and yes, so now there's seven and
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  our youngest is two.
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  And I actually forgot to mention to you that our oldest daughter, she's married and she
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  has a baby.
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  So, so I'm a grandma, technically.
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  So yeah, so the baby is three months, melodies, three months.
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  And so that's amazing.
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  It's sort of funny.
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  So the youngest is actually closer and aged to her than to her oldest, to her next oldest
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  daughter.
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  Wow.
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  It's amazing.
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  So you studied chemical engineering and you ended up going to Korea while you were there.
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  I was reading your bio while you were there.
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  You started to homeschool and I want you to explain something.
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  You said, um, you decided to homeschool and that's when you discovered such a plethora
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  of books that I would have never known about.
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  And I think this is what brings us to mud hen momma.
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  Is it not?
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  Yes.
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  Yes.
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  So, so yeah.
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  So our last year in Korea, we weren't sure what we were going to do.
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  We thought, you know, maybe we, we actually thought we were going to stay international
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  and ended up not working out.
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  But because we weren't sure, we just wanted to, you know, well, if we were going to
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  a difficult place and, you know, we wanted to be able to have that available, just
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  that, you know, we could still teach our kids and I would have some experience beforehand.
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  So that was the plan.
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  It ended up that I, that I homeschooled for a year and a half.
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  It was wonderful.
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  I really wanted to continue to homeschool.
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  But anyway, when, when we were homeschooling, you know, I, it was like I discovered all of
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  these wonderful books like, oh my goodness, these, I had no idea that they were all these
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  great Christian books that, you know, and, and historical fiction and all these books
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  that, you know, when you get this galactic book fair, you know, flyers, those kinds of
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  books aren't on there.
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  And so I thought this is something that I think would be really valuable for other Christian
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  families to know about.
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  And it was just sort of put in the back of my head, like I, you know, this is something
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  that maybe in the future, you know, I could perhaps like share, but we'll see.
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  So fast forward a few years.
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  So, you know, that was like maybe 2016, 2017.
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  The 2020 happened.
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  And that was a really difficult year for, obviously, for everyone.
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  But it was, it was just very, very eye-opening and I thought to myself, you know, this is,
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  there was just a lot of stuff that came out that I, that really concerned me.
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  And, and you know, the little things like that, like I had mentioned before, the scholastic
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  book fair, the, the flyers, you know, I had noticed that, I mean, besides the fact that
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  they didn't have the really meaty good literature, I also noticed that it was just sort of,
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  I mean, at least initially it was more like just sort of junky.
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  Like it wasn't that, it wasn't really going to be helping our children to learn anything
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  good or beautiful or anything like that.
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  So I thought, I, you know, I'm not going to order for, I want there to be a better resource
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  than that.
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  And so, but then when 2020 hit, it was more of like, wow, it's, it's not just that it's,
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  you know, bad for you.
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  It's actually like poison for you.
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  I mean, I always compare it to, you know, it's, it's not just cheetos for the brain.
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  It's, it's like poison for the brain.
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  It's, it's, it's getting, it had gotten to a point where just the indoctrination was,
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  was becoming much more apparent.
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  And so I thought, you know, maybe this is the time to start offering something, just some
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  sort of an alternative.
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  So we only started with maybe, I don't even remember, I think it was between 1575 titles
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  and just put them out there and tried to reach out to different schools to see if, hey,
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  you know, would, would your school be interested in having a small book fair and offering your
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  families these books?
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  And so as time went on, you know, we, we, we obviously we expanded, we started off with,
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  like I said, 50, 75 books, something like that.
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  And we, we were focusing more on children's books.
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  But then we expanded it because, you know, we really thought it was so important to
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  not only, I mean, obviously we need our kids to have really good books to, available
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  for them to read, but we also wanted those books to be available for, like good books
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  for parents, because parents are the ones that are going to be feeding into their kids.
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  And they need to understand what's happening.
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  So that was something else that I had noticed in 2020 is that, you know, all this stuff
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  was happening in the culture and no one was talking about it.
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  And I thought, why, you know, why aren't we talking about this?
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  And it's so important.
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  You know, a lot of things had been, you know, on my radar, I had, I, you know, had read
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  a lot about, Vody Bachum is amazing.
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  And I've known about him for years.
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  And he was one that had, he, you know, so the ethnic narcissism, like all that stuff,
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  like that was, I understood all of that, but I didn't realize how it had infested into
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  the culture as much as it did.
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  And so I thought, you know, we need to be able to, to help the parents not only understand
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  what's happening, to know what's happening, but to understand what to do about it from
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  a biblical worldview because the churches weren't doing it.
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  And so I figured, you know, this would be a great way, you know, you're giving your kids
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  great books.
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  So why don't you give yourself some and just learn about what's happening and learn what
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  to do about it from, from a biblical worldview, from a biblical perspective that, you know,
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  ways in order to know how to approach a lot of these issues.
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  So yeah, so that was, that was essentially what, you know, what we wanted to do with
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  Mudhin Mama.
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  We obviously, we also wanted to offer families, you know, the, the, uh, standard was essentially
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  we want books that are good, beautiful and true.
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  And so, um, that was, that's what we try to do.
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  We try to have, have, um, you know, books that obviously, if there's a lot of books that
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  share the gospel, but not all of them do.
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  All of them are though sharing something that's good, beautiful and true.
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  And I think we know that the, that the truth, all truth is God's truth.
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  And so that's why, um, you know, we wanted to expand it to not just be, you know, quote
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  unquote Christian books, but they're, you know, going to be a lot of different books,
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  like a lot of classic books don't necessarily speak the name of Christ, but they're really
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  good books that teach us something about Christ in one way, shape or form.
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  So.
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  Okay.
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  When we come back with Michelle, we're going to find out what a Mudhin actually is.
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  And then we'll also talk about a little bit more about that transition you made in 2020,
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  because you had this idea to do online Christian book fairs.
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  And because a lot of people are doing COVID, I mean, online learning during COVID and unfortunately
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  a lot of kids were, you know, still tapping in the public school system, getting their education.
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  That way you're not going to get the right information.
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  Um, so to do these Christian book fairs, to get the great books out there, I think most
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  of our audience is all for that, but we'll be right back on World View Matters.
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  Introducing the World View Matters Conference coming to Green Bay, Wisconsin May 1st and
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  2nd, 2026.
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  Here's some of the featured speakers, Ken Michael, Olivier Melnick, Tim Chafee, Mark
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  and Amber Archer, Laura Perry Smalls, Dr. Jake Jacobs, Jay Seigert, Gary Caw, Scott
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  Sharer, and Elijah Abraham.
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  That's the World View Matters Conference May 1st and 2nd, 2026, Green Bay, Wisconsin.
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  Yes.
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  And we're still waiting to hear from one prominent speaker that I'm hoping it will work
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  out that he can make that.
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  But anyway, it's going to be at the Delta Hotel by Ramada and Green Bay May 1st and 2nd
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  next year.
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  We're looking forward to that.
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  I will tell you a lot more about it.
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  And these guests will be on the podcast again as the months progress here.
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  We get into a new year coming up.
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  So Michelle, Mud Hen, I mean, that's not something a lot of people understand.
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  Mud Hen, what's a Mud Hen mama?
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  So just briefly, I know time's going by fast with you.
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  How did you come up with the name?
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  So when I was homeschooling, I had a couple of books that were sort of like reference
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  books.
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  They've been sitting there for a long time.
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  But I was trying to wrap my brain like, OK, what am I going to name this?
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  I knew I had some ideas, but a lot of the names had been taken or it just didn't sound
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  right.
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  So I was praying and praying about it.
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  And the Lord sort of directed me to go look at those books and just see if there was
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  something in there.
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  So I was flipping through and I came across the American Coot.
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  And the nickname for an American Coot is called a Mud Hen.
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  What the Mud Hen's do is when they perceive that they're getting attacked or they see
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  an enemy, they come together and they squawk at the enemy.
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  And I was like, that's exactly what I'm trying to do with Mud Hen mama or with my business
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  is to get parents together, get families together, to be able to just let people know.
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  This is going on and we need to protect our kids and we need to come together and help
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  each other, help one another, protect us from what's happening.
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  And so yeah, so that's where Mud Hen mama comes from.
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  And from the information you sent me, each of the over 1300 books have been vetted to
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  be sure that anyone who comes to purchase books from you guys will know that they're from
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  a biblical worldview.
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  But explain to me, elaborate on this a little bit.
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  You said, I realized how important it was to empower families to understand not only
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  what we're facing as a society, but also how to face it from a biblical worldview.
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  Explain that a little bit, Michelle, and how reading books like this help.
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  Well, maybe it's just because it was more personal to me, but I know that, you know, I don't,
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  it's just hard to keep up with all everything that's happening.
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  And, you know, we, and that's me who I feel like I'm always listening to podcasts and
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  trying to find out what's happening, but not everyone has that time.
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  And so I think, you know, like I had mentioned before, it's important to understand what,
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  what is happening and a lot of parents, a lot of families, I think are just, they're
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  either oblivious or, you know, like they just don't want to know and they think everything's
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  going to blow over.
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  I remember having those conversations with people and, and just thinking to myself, like,
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  we need to know really this is, I don't think this is going to blow over.
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  And I think that we need to discuss this.
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  So it's not just being aware.
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  I mean, like I said, there are some parents that are oblivious.
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  There's some parents or some families that think, well, yeah, I know this is happening,
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  but it's no big deal.
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  And, you know, my kids will find out eventually, you know, how to, how to navigate this.
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  But so I think we need to, we need to just be clear to all, to Christian families in
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  particular that, hey, this is not just, it's not just happening, but like, I, and, well,
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  I'm sorry, the other thing that I was going to say is that I think that sometimes parents
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  also, like they may know what's, what's happening, but then they get frozen.
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  They don't know exactly what to do.
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  And maybe that's why they don't want to discuss it with their families or with their children
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  or with each other, whatever, with other families.
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  And I've definitely come across that as well.
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  And so I think this is just a really good way in order to, like, help them power them,
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  like, say, hey, this is how you can navigate this.
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  This is, other people have talked about this already.
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  And, you know, you don't have to feel bad about certain things.
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  You don't have to feel bad about, you know, your skin color.
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  You don't have to feel bad about how God made us or, I mean, there's like a gazillion
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  different topics that, you know, we do try to cover it.
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  Anyway, just, you know, but to do it from a biblical world view, because we don't need
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  to have, you know, there are a lot of people that will, you know, we look at the same issues
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  and a lot of people will say one thing and a lot of other people will say another thing,
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  but we need to have an understanding from a biblical world view.
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  And so we try to gather up books that were, you know, doing that, that will help help
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  the families to be able to not only know what's happening and to see what's happening
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  and to be aware of it, but then also, okay, well, what do I do about it?
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  How do I, how do I go about, you know, figuring out tech and, and, you know, how, how social media
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  and, and, you know, how do we combat this and, you know, what should we do, what should
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  we not do, just all those questions that I know personally I have.
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  I mean, we have kids literally in, in like every age group.
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  And so I understand all of the different issues, you know, that, that kids are having.
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  So, you know, we've tried to include all those kinds of books.
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  So that, that, you know, like I said, not just for children, but also for, for parents
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  as well, because it's so important.
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  I think parents, they just need to know and, and it's just, I think it's getting a little
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  bit better that, you know, there are churches that are talking a lot about these issues,
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  but I think still it's, it's very sparse and it's, I don't think it's enough.
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  And so, yeah, so we just have to encourage parents, you know, like, hey, these are great
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  books.
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  It's time, even if it's 10 minutes a night, I mean, that's where I'm ending up nowadays
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  is just, you know, just a little, you know, Rome isn't built in a day, so you just read
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  a little bit every night and it's, it's amazing what you can get through.
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  Yeah, you said, you think it's getting a little better, thank you for your optimism.
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  But then you said, but it's, but you don't think it's enough understatement, because I mean,
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  we have people from all around the country touch base with us and I have guests from different
• 21:52
  parts of the country and we kind of tap into the pulse of what's going on and if pastors
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  aren't teaching their congregations and how are Christians in church going to get it
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  if they're not doing it at home, if they're not teaching their kids at home, if they're
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  not reading the right books.
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  And as you said, there's programming going on that, that I, I think I'm quite a bit older
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  than you even, I didn't have to deal with when I was growing up, you know, in the 60s
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  or the 70s.
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  And kids, what they have to deal with today and they're getting bombarded from all angles.
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  So we need this kind of good information, Biblically based information, books, education,
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  training, equipping, encouragement from other Christians.
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  I want to give you an opportunity to Michelle to just share a little bit about your website.
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  I see a tab for book fairs, I also see frequently asked questions.
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  So wherever you want to go right now, we've got five minutes left.
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  OK, well, was something that we're trying to promote a lot right now is the book, Family
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  Books Savings Club.
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  That's something that I think could be really valuable because, you know, I think I'm
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  not saying anything really all that surprising to say that everyone's busy.
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  And what that, what we're trying to offer to families is a way to get books into their
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  children's hands that have been vetted and it's, you know, you can get it depending
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  on the size of your family or how many books your kids read.
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  You can get books sent to your home every month and we try to customize it.
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  So if your kids like, you know, a certain genre of books and we send those kinds of books
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  to you and that's actually for, you know, we have this available for children, for, you
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  know, little children, teens or for adults.
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  So, so yeah, so that's that's something that we're trying to encourage families to look
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  into because, you know, it's just an easy way to be able to help children to just get
• 23:48
  some great books into their hands.
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  I mean, the garbage that is so many libraries, it's insane.
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  Like, you can't even, I know that I've even been to the library and brought home a book
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  only to discover it's, you know, something that's, they're trying to normalize, you know,
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  two dads or two moms or whatever.
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  And this is, you know, and I'm looking at the book.
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  It's not as if I'm, I'm not, but by the time I bring it home and I'm reading it and
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  I'm like, oh my goodness, I cannot believe that this is there.
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  And kids are reading this, right?
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  Yes.
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  Children.
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  You know, I'm glad you mentioned libraries.
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  We're down to just a three and a half minutes Michelle libraries.
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  I think a lot of parents, I mean, this, this kind of went under the radar on how the
• 24:27
  libraries became, well, you know, they have awful books.
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  I mean, some, somewhat pornographic, all pro LGBTQ, a lot of anti-biblical worldview
• 24:39
  anti-Christian, a lot of books that, that have no business being in young, young kids,
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  you know, children's hands, let alone, you know, there for anybody to look at.
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  So this is a problem.
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  And then we saw the drag queen story hours in public libraries and people just, we're
• 24:55
  not connecting the dots to how we got there.
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  So in the last couple of minutes, just share a little bit more about your concern about
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  libraries and, and whatever you else want to talk to tackle right now.
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  Sure.
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  I know that actually I had done a little bit of research on this for specifically the
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  LGBTQ issue and it's pretty amazing in the last 10 years.
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  There's been an increase anywhere between, I mean, I've seen numbers from 400 to 900 percent
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  increase in the amount of LGBTQ titles.
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  So I mean, it's just amazing and, and you know, often the cover you would not know, you
• 25:31
  wouldn't know that there's something that's been in there, that's, that's been put in there.
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  But again, it's just normalizing which should never be normalized.
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  And so we have to, I just think that we have to, we just have to be so careful.
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  And even when we are careful, things slip in.
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  I mean, I know that we had one of my children was reading a book.
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  It was the, oh, the, the Winds of Fire series.
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  I don't know if you're familiar with that series, but all my kids love them.
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  And then my, my one daughter, my number four, who we thought was the last one.
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  She was reading one of the books and she was like, mom, is this what I think it is?
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  And I looked at the book and I was like shocked that for no reason, they just ruined a lesbian
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  relationship.
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  And, you know, it's just, so it's one of those things that, oh, you think you're okay,
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  because the first few books are fine.
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  Why would, why would there be anything that's introduced?
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  But they will slip it in.
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  And so, so yeah, so we, we really try to be as careful as possible vetting the books
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  so that you don't have to worry about that.
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  But, you know, there's, if there's something questionable, you know, we, we pull the book
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  or, you know, if it somehow got through, we pull the book.
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  But in general, we try just to not have it on there at all.
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  And so, yeah, it's just, it's, that's why I think that the family, book family subscription
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  is really helpful because, you know, it's just your, your children, it's like you're,
• 26:55
  you get to build your own home library, which I think would be, like, you know, very,
• 27:00
  very helpful.
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  And as you get more memberships, you get more of a percentage off.
• 27:03
  Michelle, I think a lot of people are going to want more information.
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  I'm hoping in that this podcast gets out there.
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  But to get a hold of you is the best way to go to the contact us.
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  And that will go to you and you'll be able to respond.
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  Okay, that's so friends, again, mud hen mama dot com, very important.
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  And this is my goodness books.
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  Bring them back, bring back books, you know, kids don't even read as much as they used to.
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  But, um, and parents have something to do with that.
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  But here we are.
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  We've got opportunities to support something like this.
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  We appreciate your time today.
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  Went by fast.
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  Thank you for all that you're doing and sharing.
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  And God bless you, your family, Michelle.
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  Good to spend time with you today.
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  Thank you so much, David.
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  You're most welcome.
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  All right, friends, God bless you.
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  And as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.