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Feminists Around the World: It's Us (Again)!, Part 1 · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha.
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  Speaker 2: I'm welcome to stuff I've never told you production of
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  Speaker 2: Buy Heeart Radio.
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  Speaker 3: And welcome to another addition, the first addition of twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty five, A Feminist around the World. I'm gonna stick
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  Speaker 3: with that. Annie, I'm gonna stick with that for sure
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  Speaker 3: this year. I'm not gonna go back and forth.
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  Speaker 4: You know too.
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  Speaker 2: I was just lamenting because we were talking about like
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  Speaker 2: goals for the show, and I was just lamenting about
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  Speaker 2: how if I could, if I had the time, I don't,
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  Speaker 2: I would go back and correct a lot of irregularities. Also,
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  Speaker 2: we don't have spell check in the system we use,
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  Speaker 2: so sometimes there's been spelling hers. Just know, I am
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  Speaker 2: aware that that happens.
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  Speaker 1: You're right.
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  Speaker 3: I love like on social media when I am thinking
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  Speaker 3: I'm putting up this great post, whether it's really funny
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  Speaker 3: or thoughtful, I'm like yes, And then you see that
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  Speaker 3: you've like either autocorrected or just completely like messed up
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  Speaker 3: a sentas, and You're like, I.
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  Speaker 1: Can't delete it because people have already started liking it.
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  Speaker 4: You'll no anyway, it is.
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  Speaker 3: This is our first episode four Famist Around the World,
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  Speaker 3: at which we started a whole back how long ago.
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  Speaker 4: In you got a better memory than I do, so
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  Speaker 4: twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like it was at the end of twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 2: It was the end of the year. I remember that
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  Speaker 2: because we had to start doing it in March, and
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  Speaker 2: I got told in like November. We were right, we
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  Speaker 2: got told in March, so that we got told in
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  Speaker 2: November that we had to do six episodes essentially.
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  Speaker 4: So we had to like do something that would not only.
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  Speaker 3: Follow that requisite, I guess, as well as trying to.
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  Speaker 1: Keep our sanity.
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  Speaker 3: And we were like, we'll do these like shorter episodes
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  Speaker 3: or whatever whatnot. And sometimes these episodes are not short.
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  Speaker 2: That is true.
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  Speaker 1: Surprise, surprise, Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So we've been doing this for a while. We've got
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  Speaker 3: a lot of segments out there. We've gotten reached out
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  Speaker 3: to by people who were featured, which was amazing, thank y'all.
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  Speaker 3: But today I thought, we're going to try to do
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  Speaker 3: this every year. I think any because I realized the
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  Speaker 3: last time I did this it was in the middle
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  Speaker 3: of a year, and I was like, oh, because it
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  Speaker 3: was to celebrate our book, which was to almost a
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  Speaker 3: year and a half ago. So this time around, we're
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  Speaker 3: going to do a feature on us as feminists.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously, if we.
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  Speaker 3: Are doing, if our job, if our career is based
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  Speaker 3: around intersectional feminism, that means we're feminists, right and hopefully
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  Speaker 3: we are good representations of that. We're going to say
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  Speaker 3: we're real least trying, and with that to reintroduce ourselves
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  Speaker 3: for people who are new to the show, people who
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  Speaker 3: may have forgotten us, or maybe who are confused by
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  Speaker 3: who the hosts are. So, as of January twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 3: it's Annie Reese and SAMMITHA McVeigh. We are the hosts
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  Speaker 3: of steph Mom Never Told You. We have been here
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  Speaker 3: since as a pair, you and I as a duo
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  Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, and he's been here from jump if you
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  Speaker 3: know you know, So, I thought we would do a
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  Speaker 3: quick introduction, reintroduction of who we are as the hosts
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  Speaker 3: of Stepmom Never Told You, as the host of this
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  Speaker 3: segment feminist around the world, and maybe some fun facts,
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  Speaker 3: funish facts in between all this. You know, I love
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  Speaker 3: trying to tell all of Any's secrets, so I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: try to probably put that in there somewhere. Don't worry
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  Speaker 3: about it, any It's fine. So let's start off. What's
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  Speaker 3: a good just a simple simple question. What do you
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  Speaker 3: think is a constant.
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  Speaker 4: On our show?
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  Speaker 3: Like what type of content is consistent to our show?
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  Speaker 2: That's a good question because one of the things I
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  Speaker 2: love about our show but I understand can be confounding
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  Speaker 2: to advertisers, is that we talk about pretty much everything.
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  Speaker 2: And I like that freedom.
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  Speaker 4: I like that.
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  Speaker 2: That we're able to have nerdy deep dives into movies
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  Speaker 2: and then also a deep look into politics. Like I
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  Speaker 2: like that because I think we're a human like you,
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  Speaker 2: and it's nice to have the variety of content when
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  Speaker 2: things can be so dark in in or or just
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  Speaker 2: like make you tired in the world of intersectional feminism.
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  Speaker 2: So I think a consistent we have is that we
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  Speaker 2: do our personalities are are we have similarities, but Samantha
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  Speaker 2: and I are very different, but we allow that to
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  Speaker 2: shine and we do a bunch of different stuff. But
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  Speaker 2: we are also always kind of evolving and like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: what if we try this, or let's let's see about this, right.
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  Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, I think the consistency of our show,
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  Speaker 3: if anything, is the chaos, meaning.
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  Speaker 1: That, yeah, we do talk about everything.
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  Speaker 3: When it comes to the conversation feminism and intersectional feminism
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  Speaker 3: everything everything that includes all the conversations, whether we are
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  Speaker 3: talking about men or dating or nerd stuff like fan
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  Speaker 3: fiction or Marvel, maybe not Marvel, Like we have the
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  Speaker 3: giant scope of understanding that it does involve feminism, whether
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  Speaker 3: it's trying to root out feminism or whether it's to
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  Speaker 3: include feminism, or whether it's to pretend like it doesn't exist,
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  Speaker 3: it still exists. So I think like the whole theme
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  Speaker 3: could be called chaos as well as the fact that, yes,
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  Speaker 3: it is about constant and continued growth because we are
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  Speaker 3: learning new things every day. That's a part of the
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  Speaker 3: beauty of the subject of feminism, intersectional feminism, when we
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  Speaker 3: talk about the sociology of it, the psychology of it,
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  Speaker 3: even like the political understanding of it as well. You
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  Speaker 3: have the room to grow, whether it's learning something that
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  Speaker 3: you might not have understood or learning a new concept.
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  Speaker 1: Because it is being rooted out.
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  Speaker 4: That's the best way to put it.
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  Speaker 3: So I think that's something that we would say is
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  Speaker 3: consistent too at the show.
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  Speaker 5: Right, and with that, we're going to talk a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Just go ahead, if you don't know what intersectional feminism is.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to kind of explain that.
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  Speaker 3: Kimberly Crenshaw, doctor Crenshaw is an activist and in nineteen
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  Speaker 3: eighty nine coined the term intersectionality, which she describes is
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  Speaker 3: how systems of oppression overlap in creed unique experiences for
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  Speaker 3: people who belong to multiple identity categories. So we often
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  Speaker 3: refer to let's say, black queer women in this conversation
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  Speaker 3: or black trans women in this conversation, and how that
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  Speaker 3: overlaps so many different sectors of the marginalized categories, and
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  Speaker 3: how that can oppress them in each individual way. But
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  Speaker 3: then you put add them all together, and it's a
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  Speaker 3: big wide system that just seems like it's fighting you
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  Speaker 3: down all the.
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  Speaker 4: Time at every angle.
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  Speaker 3: In our terms, and for us, it is understanding this
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  Speaker 3: point that overlapping an inclusion of all marginalized folks and
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  Speaker 3: opening to the fact that the unique experiences are important
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  Speaker 3: factor in this movement that when we talk about feminism
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  Speaker 3: in the past, we have concerned, we have conversations, and
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  Speaker 3: we have to confront the fact that it did not
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  Speaker 3: include everyone. So therefore its movement and or its works
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  Speaker 3: not negated necessarily, but it's kind of painted right.
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  Speaker 2: Any yeah, I mean, especially when you look at, as
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  Speaker 2: we have on the show, just the history of whose
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  Speaker 2: concerns got elevated and why who was doing the work
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  Speaker 2: and was getting ignored. In this case, usually white women
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  Speaker 2: were taking the attention and black women who have been
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  Speaker 2: doing the work or people of color are doing the
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  Speaker 2: work getting ignored and the needs are different. That's kind
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  Speaker 2: of the point of intersectional feminism is that you have
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  Speaker 2: to recognize not everybody's needs are the same, and there
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  Speaker 2: are different levels of oppression that do impact the whole conversation.
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  Speaker 2: So it is it's very, very important and to move forward.
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  Speaker 2: I think this was such a necessary like it had
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  Speaker 2: already been there. But I'm glad that people of people
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  Speaker 2: are coming around, even though we've heard more than once
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  Speaker 2: people don't know what intersectional feminism is.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I love that we got onto the radio shows,
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  Speaker 3: which were all men, but like two and one was
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  Speaker 3: a co host, but the.
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  Speaker 4: Other that was one woman who knew what was going
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  Speaker 4: on and she was ready.
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  Speaker 1: She was like, let's talk, lady, let's talk.
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  Speaker 3: She was so ready, but the others were like, wait,
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  Speaker 3: what literal hesitancy feminism? I love my mom. All the
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  Speaker 3: conversations started that way.
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  Speaker 2: Was always say that.
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  Speaker 3: Even people who you know work with us are like,
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  Speaker 3: let's have a show about stuff Dad never.
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  Speaker 4: Told you, sir, you don't understand the show.
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  Speaker 3: Then anyway back to yeah, I think that big conversation
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  Speaker 3: is when we meet the needs of the most oppressed,
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  Speaker 3: then we meet the needs of all the oppressed.
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  Speaker 1: So that's that level.
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  Speaker 3: If you actually go to the route and find the
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  Speaker 3: group that it's the most oppressed, and you work for
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  Speaker 3: their rights, then you're actually working for everyone because it
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  Speaker 3: benefits everyone. And that's that level of intersectionality that I
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  Speaker 3: think has thank god, come through in the last forty years.
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  Speaker 3: And I say come through at least been recognized, because
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  Speaker 3: we can't have a conversation about equal rights, equity, any
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  Speaker 3: of these things, and inclusion if we don't talk about
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  Speaker 3: the fact that for so long it played into the
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  Speaker 3: idea that well, women, right, white women, Sure, if you
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  Speaker 3: get it, then.
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  Speaker 4: That's the end.
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  Speaker 3: That's all that matters, right, And that's not that's not
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  Speaker 3: that right, that's not that conversation. And oftentimes in these
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  Speaker 3: types of systems, it's not so much that the oppress
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  Speaker 3: people are being ignored, but that the rich or those
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  Speaker 3: who have the most power are using oppression, as I
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  Speaker 3: would say oppression olympics quote unquote, in order to make
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  Speaker 3: sure they are never targeted and everyone else is so
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  Speaker 3: everybody is kept down while they continue to grow in power,
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  Speaker 3: if that makes sense. And that's why we have this podcast.
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  Speaker 3: That's why the creation of this podcast was so important.
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  Speaker 3: We know that Kristen came in with this conversation of
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  Speaker 3: wanting to talk about women's issues, and it has grown.
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  Speaker 3: It has grown any You can attest to this more
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  Speaker 3: than anybody, obviously, because you've seen it from talking about
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  Speaker 3: really important conversations they and they are about fashion and
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  Speaker 3: about like high hills, and about workplace discrimination, which is
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  Speaker 3: all important to this bigger conversation of oh, reproductive rights,
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  Speaker 3: trans rights. Let's talk about all of these things and
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  Speaker 3: how these matters are very very important. It's not just
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  Speaker 3: a fun, cute conversation that people really want to point
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  Speaker 3: out and be.
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  Speaker 1: Like yeah, like I know.
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  Speaker 3: The biggest one of the biggest episodes of this podcast,
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  Speaker 3: which I think is a very inventive and very creative episode,
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  Speaker 3: was why don't women have pockets?
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  Speaker 1: And that's we still talk about that.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody talks about that women celebrate pockets when we get
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  Speaker 3: addressed with pockets, we tell everybody it's the best. It's
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  Speaker 3: it's not, it's not it's not a stereotype. It's excitement
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  Speaker 3: and celebration for the small things. Okay, But you know
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  Speaker 3: we like going from that to us talking about the
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  Speaker 3: rape culture within churches and talking about the oppression of
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  Speaker 3: true love weights and why that type of celibacy is
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  Speaker 3: actually conducive for rape culture, and so why we have
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  Speaker 3: to have these types of conversations. But with that, Anie,
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  Speaker 3: I have to ask you, because you've been here, what
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  Speaker 3: have you seen as the changes of this podcast, specifically
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  Speaker 3: from when it started from you as a baby intern
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  Speaker 3: to today.
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  Speaker 2: That could be a whole episode in itself, but briefly,
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  Speaker 2: I was annoyed, and I think rightfully so, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: glad that it happened that I was the only female
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  Speaker 2: intern and I was put on that podcast because it's
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  Speaker 2: about women, and I wanted to work on this other podcast.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, when I got started on it, it changed
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  Speaker 2: my life. It changed my life because I was in
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: college and I was still living in that idea of Oh,
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: I got to find my husband, like that whole thing
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  Speaker 2: I think I heard I learned about asexuality for the
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  Speaker 2: first time through this podcast. But I saw it change
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  Speaker 2: because I felt like it was treated as sort of, oh,
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  Speaker 2: that's cute to know. Today we're talking about like rape,
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  Speaker 2: or we're talking about like these huge issues, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: the topics kind of did shift in the way that
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  Speaker 2: I think the founder, Kristen had always wanted to talk
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  Speaker 2: about those deep issues but and still and still you know,
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  Speaker 2: the important things of yes, why do we women not pockets?
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  Speaker 2: But I think I saw it kind of shift from oh,
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  Speaker 2: that's cute, Oh that's really important, even in my own
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  Speaker 2: personal working on it, because I was mostly when I.
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  Speaker 4: Started, like.
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  Speaker 2: And I was reading all these letters from listeners and
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  Speaker 2: just talking about how the important the show was to
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  Speaker 2: them and how much they learned from it and how
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  Speaker 2: it may have changed their lives. So yeah, I think
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  Speaker 2: it grew in terms of topics willing to be explored.
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  Speaker 3: Right, And I will say because I'm not negating the beginning,
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  Speaker 3: because the way that they opened the show, we know
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  Speaker 3: how stuff works, and you were talking about the founder
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  Speaker 3: who actually passed away recently, and everybody had been celebrating
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  Speaker 3: what he had done and how he had created this
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  Speaker 3: network was about seeking questions that they had and then
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  Speaker 3: deep digging into it, like doing some heavy, deep research
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  Speaker 3: into it. And that's how how stuff works kind of began,
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  Speaker 3: and stuff your mom never told you was that beginning.
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  Speaker 3: And I want to note they were talking about important conversations.
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  Speaker 3: They were talking about niche subjects as well, and all
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  Speaker 3: those things could be.
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  Speaker 4: One and the same.
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  Speaker 3: And Kristin has always come in and Caroline is all
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  Speaker 3: come in with pretty fierce conversations and really deep research
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  Speaker 3: in this conversation and topic. What has changed is the
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  Speaker 3: environment of a work culture b podcasting. I mean, let's
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  Speaker 3: be very honest from what they started as to see.
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  Speaker 1: Growing tired of tiptoeing about.
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  Speaker 3: So I really think like they put in an amazing
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  Speaker 3: amount of work. And we know Kristen still in that
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  Speaker 3: work and Caroline's still in that work. But Kristen still
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  Speaker 3: has gone on with unladylike being no hole's bars, saying
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  Speaker 3: exactly how she feels and looking at the deep dark
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  Speaker 3: nature of humanity when it comes to the evolution of feminism,
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  Speaker 3: like she is doing an amazing job and she is
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  Speaker 3: a true journalist in that level as well as entertainer
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  Speaker 3: and being able to deliver these messages and she did
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  Speaker 3: that from jump, so like we acknowledge and recognize that
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  Speaker 3: so quickly, and we have noted that the listenership has
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  Speaker 3: changed over time. Y'all who are still with us, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: I have so many like I know you get it too,
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  Speaker 3: but we get so many emails and messages saying, you know.
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  Speaker 4: I've been around since the beginning and I love this
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  Speaker 4: show and we love that.
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  Speaker 3: Like, that's amazing that you were able to come with
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  Speaker 3: us and change with us in our journeys. Because we
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: know we're very different people from the other creators as
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  Speaker 3: well as other hosts around different shows. We know it's
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  Speaker 3: a little bit different. We know the context is different.
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  Speaker 3: We are very straightforward outside of our amazing fiction and
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  Speaker 3: stuff which has all the cool sound effects, but like
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  Speaker 3: it's you know, it's we're very straightforward with the information
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  Speaker 3: and we try to give you as much detail as
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  Speaker 3: we can as we can find, whether it's about an
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  Speaker 3: activist or a situation, or the news article. As it
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: continues to change, that's hard to keep up with current
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  Speaker 3: affairs is hard to keep up with it. It's kind
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: of a phenomenon with podcasting anyway, because I feel like
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  Speaker 3: we're creating a time counsule.
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  Speaker 2: I told you my fear that one day somebody were
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  Speaker 2: listening to our podcast were like these fools.
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  Speaker 4: They didn't know, they didn't know.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, we probably should't go back to like our first
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: year of episode.
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  Speaker 2: We're like, oh no, I'll never forget our twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: prediction episode.
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  Speaker 4: It talks, it does haunt you me. I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that's about right, that's about right.
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  Speaker 1: Those as you said, fools.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, so, like the journey of podcasting has been
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  Speaker 3: so different, and like even when you listen to I
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  Speaker 3: don't know why, I think I'm just thinking about them,
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  Speaker 3: but Kristen and Caroline's original episodes to what they became
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  Speaker 3: towards the end, it's a huge change.
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  Speaker 4: It's a huge shift.
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  Speaker 3: And that's also because the political and environmental and societal
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  Speaker 3: effects of what was happening from their beginning to then
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  Speaker 3: was massive. The changes were massive, and we're kind of
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  Speaker 3: back here and we're like the flux of it where
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  Speaker 3: it just feels like chaos all the time. We can't
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  Speaker 3: talk enough about how much they have done. Yeah, for
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  Speaker 3: this type of platform, like it is so important because
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: they were part of the beginning. There were the beginning,
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  Speaker 3: especially when it came to feminist podcasting, like they were
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  Speaker 3: there at the jump, not sure what was happening and
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: not sure what was going to happen, but here we.
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  Speaker 2: Are and not getting much support, to be honest, and
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  Speaker 2: also like they were so great to me in terms
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  Speaker 2: of like they would ask my opinion, they would like,
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  Speaker 2: what do you think about this? And like I said,
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  Speaker 2: I was a young college student, was internalized misogyny. You
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  Speaker 2: didn't realize it at the point at that point, but
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  Speaker 2: it just having them treat me like oh yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like somebody, okay, let me ask you about this. What
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  Speaker 2: do you think about this? What about this? And at
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: one time Kristen and I were talking and she was like,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: what do you think this show is? Like what is
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  Speaker 2: it to you that you find so important in it?
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  Speaker 2: Because I had said I think it, I think it
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  Speaker 2: should keep going. I think it's really important, and I
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: was like, we you know, everything we do like we
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: can the pockets thing that has a history that if
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: you break it apart, is about like the impression of women,
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: like everything is that? So yeah, I don't want to
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: sound dismissive of all at all of those right those topics,
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  Speaker 2: but I was just it was eye opening for me
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  Speaker 2: and it did change my life.
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  Speaker 3: So yes, I love that, And I do want to ask, like,
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  Speaker 3: what do you have anything specific that you think of
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  Speaker 3: when you're like, yeah, this is one thing that changed
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  Speaker 3: in me or something that I think differently on now
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  Speaker 3: than I did the because of this work that I'm doing.
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  Speaker 1: Hmmm.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: I mean obviously I view the world differently and I
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: look at sources differently. I actually really appreciate this where
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: I'm more skeptical of like, Okay, where did this come from?
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Why are we saying this? How is it being worded?
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  Speaker 2: That's something positive I personally have gotten from working on
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  Speaker 2: this show that I've noticed. And then I think I
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: was already an empathetic person, but I think I became
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: more empathetic to people who do work in any way
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: that involves marginalized people and helping marginalize people of just
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: like you know, one week, we had to do a
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: whole set of episodes on sexual assaults and I just
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: remember thinking that this is this is so much. It's
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: draining me so much, and it's hurting me so much,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: and other like my other colleagues aren't having to do it,
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: so like that of kind of recognizing the emotional drain
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  Speaker 2: of work like this, I.
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  Speaker 1: Think, yeah, I would agree.
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  Speaker 3: I think from me starting which was much later than you,
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: I was working in a whole different field to this,
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: like looking at the intellectual levels of oppression and what
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: that looks like today and how often we ignore those
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: those statistics and why these statistics are important. Not only that,
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: like how often women are left out or marginalized people
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: are left out altogether in those statistics was eye opening,
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Like you would think it'd be common sense in so
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: many things, but just realizing how like far behind we
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: could be or we are often it's really disappointing. But
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: at the same time, like how many people are doing
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: this work or have been doing this work has been
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: phenomenal to to watch, like yeah, seeing and discovering many
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: of the marginalized people who are like, yeah, doesn't exist,
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  Speaker 3: so I'm gonna do it Like that's also been like
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: just inspiring. But it's been interesting to look up and
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: research just the communities I'm learning about new little areas
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: and communities and indigenous groups that I'm like, why didn't I.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: Know about this critical theory? Yeah?
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Okay, and I think it's really important. Again, like the
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: amount of this type of conversation takes, the amount of
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  Speaker 3: stress and the amount of mental health expensed on this.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know how else to.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Say it, but yeah, So, like Carolina said that she's
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: been able to step away from having to constantly be
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: connected with all of the good and the bad, and honestly,
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: you know, we're getting so much of the bad it's
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: hard to see the good sometimes.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: And she was just like, I love it.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: I love being able to kind of disconnect, and we
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: haven't been able to really do that, so it's a
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: whole thing. But yeah, so, like I know, it's really
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: nice to be able to disconnect a little bit, and
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: that's kind of one of the stressors of this job.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: So I am now hyper aware.
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  Speaker 4: And I think you and I.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Have talked about this often, that we're never not working
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: because whether or not, it's just having a conversation with
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: someone about an episode or about something it's about like.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: Hey, I read this book.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I think you really like it. I think you like it.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: For a show, Hey, hey I like this movie. Oh
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: we should talk about this movie on this show. Like
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: any of these kinds of conversations come up so quickly
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: that it's like, yeah, we never stop working. So I
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: think I've just realized how much is going on, like
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: even with I probably still don't know, but like thirty
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: percent of what's going on. But it's a massive amount
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: of intake, like of information. So it's it's quite.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Not debilitating, but unnerving.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: I guess that I'm hyper aware of this that I'm like, oh,
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: and obviously we have a lot to say about our
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: work and the work of this podcast specifically, which we.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: Do want to keep shouting out.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: And with that, we're going to make this a two parter. Okay, Annie, Yeah,
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: I did my taing already only the first.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: Week of I'm back, and I've already made this a
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: two parter. But hey, it's gonna be great, I promise.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely. Oh Well, in the meantime, listeners, if you'd
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