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FFD Action News: The NEW Simpsons Movie, Groening confirms "Hit & Run", Simpsons cast vs AI & more! · Four Finger Discount (Simpsons Podcast)

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  Speaker 1: Four-finger discount, dude.
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  Speaker 2: It's Simpsons News Time, guys. Infotainment.
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: Welcome to the news.
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  Speaker 2: You know what the best part about that, and I've
• 0:20
  Speaker 2: always said this, is Kent Brockman having sushi in the spa.
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: And it drops in and everyone just starts laughing.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone thinks it's hilarious. His wife peaked in that moment.
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: I like to think it's the jiggling... Hey, enough about that.
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: The news. What about the news?
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  Speaker 2: What about the news, indeed? So there's lots of news happening. Normally,
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  Speaker 2: there's not much happening in the Simpsons world, but I
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: feel like the next 12 months is going to be
• 0:41
  Speaker 2: ramped up. In particular, this month, because we've just had
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  Speaker 2: the D23 Expo over in the States, and... They like
• 0:47
  Speaker 2: their reveals at D23. And boy, did the Simpsons crew
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: do some reveals.
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  Speaker 1: There was a heap of reveals. There was some Star
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  Speaker 1: Wars stuff. There was some Marvel stuff. But yeah, primarily
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: there was some Simpsons stuff. I mean, usually when you
• 0:58
  Speaker 1: have D23, the D stands for Disney, don't you know?
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  Speaker 1: It's like, okay, who's going to be in the new
• 1:04
  Speaker 1: X-Men movies? Here's who we're going to have in our
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  Speaker 1: new Star Wars movies. Here are some projects that will
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  Speaker 1: never happen. But usually you don't get a whole lot
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  Speaker 1: of Simpsons stuff. This time, we got an animatic... Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we got an animatic.
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  Speaker 2: We got the reveal of the name of the new
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  Speaker 2: Simpsons movie, and it's called The New Simpsons Movie. I
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  Speaker 2: have said this because we just did a reaction video
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  Speaker 2: to this animatic, right?
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  Speaker 1: We sure did. Watch out for soy face. Watch out for... No, no,
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  Speaker 1: we didn't do that.
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  Speaker 2: Check out on our YouTube channel if you're listening now.
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  Speaker 2: We just did a video watching the animatic and giving
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  Speaker 2: our thoughts on that. We're going to be also discussing here,
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  Speaker 2: of course, but they revealed that the title of the
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  Speaker 2: new Simpsons movie is The New Simpsons Movie, and I
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  Speaker 2: discussed there how when I first read that, I went, Really?
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  Speaker 2: That's what you're doing? And the more I thought about it,
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  Speaker 2: I went, if I'm talking about this movie, what am
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  Speaker 2: I going to be calling it? I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: be calling it the Simpsons movie, because it already is
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  Speaker 2: the Simpsons movie. It's the new Simpsons movie. It's the
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  Speaker 2: Simpsons movie with a new hat. And I put it
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  Speaker 2: side by side, and I feel like the design of
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  Speaker 2: the new, in what they revealed anyway at D23... Felt
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  Speaker 2: like it was an homage to Lisa versus Malibu Stacy
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  Speaker 2: with a new hat.
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  Speaker 1: Complete with new hat.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: She got a new hat.
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  Speaker 2: The new even looked very, almost, not exactly the same,
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  Speaker 2: but very similar.
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  Speaker 1: It sure did, yeah. The pointy star around it. It's
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  Speaker 1: very much an if you know, you know for diehard
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  Speaker 1: fans of the show or even casual fans of the show.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone knows she's got a new hat. But yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: a nice in-joke as well. I was a little concerned
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  Speaker 1: because if you've got the Simpsons movie and the new
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  Speaker 1: Simpsons movie, what happens if you make another movie after
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  Speaker 1: this one?
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  Speaker 2: And I've said to you, I'd call it the newer.
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  Speaker 1: The newest. Yes, and then you held up two bags
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  Speaker 1: with dollar signs on them. But we'll get to that
• 2:40
  Speaker 1: when we get to it.
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  Speaker 2: It did feel like watching that D23 Expo, sort of the,
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  Speaker 2: what's it called, the panel. Watching the panel, it felt
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  Speaker 2: like this was the door opening for what's going to
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  Speaker 2: be 12 months of just Simpsons everywhere or just new
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  Speaker 2: merch and new news up until the release of the
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  Speaker 2: new movie.
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  Speaker 1: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: Because I remember when the last movie came out.
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  Speaker 1: It was massive. It was just Simpsons tie-ins everywhere.
• 3:02
  Speaker 2: I remember I just posted on the Facebook page, it's
• 3:04
  Speaker 2: been leaked that Jack in the Box over in the States,
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  Speaker 2: the fast food franchise, are doing a munchie meal of
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  Speaker 2: terror or something to tie in with a Treehouse of
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  Speaker 2: Horror themed happy meal for the kids. And each one
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  Speaker 2: comes with a glow-in-the-dark Simpsons Halloween themed collector cup.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like... It begins. Okay. Be prepared to fill
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  Speaker 1: your house with all manner of merch. Yeah. And then
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  Speaker 1: fill landfill with all manner of merch. No, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: Fill my garage.
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  Speaker 1: These are going to be collector's items that you will
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  Speaker 1: hold on to forever and ever.
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  Speaker 2: My wife, Nicola, is currently over in England, where she's from,
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  Speaker 2: of course, visiting family because her sister's just had a baby. So,
• 3:40
  Speaker 2: shout out to baby Darcy and Benita and Isabel. But
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  Speaker 2: she's over there. So, I said to Nicola, when you
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  Speaker 2: get back, this garage is going to be sorted. I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to be selling all the shit that's in here.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be tidying and get rid of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: You won't know it.
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  Speaker 1: It's been a week.
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  Speaker 2: I looked at it and I went, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: where to start. You shouldn't have said that, man. I
• 3:56
  Speaker 2: picked up something and I was like, and it was
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  Speaker 2: always like looking at me going, don't show me there, no.
• 4:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, you watch too much Toy Story. Everything's sparking joy
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  Speaker 1: for you. I did clear.
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  Speaker 2: Out some shit the other day though. And I sold
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  Speaker 2: it pretty cheap. Well, not as cheap as it could
• 4:14
  Speaker 2: have gone, but you know, I pretty much got back
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  Speaker 2: just under what I paid for it originally. And I
• 4:18
  Speaker 2: was like, I wish I had made money on that,
• 4:20
  Speaker 2: but I also feel good that it's gone. I've cleared
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  Speaker 2: stuff out of the house. I was like, you're doing super, Dano.
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  Speaker 1: I had an item that I'd been trying to sell
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  Speaker 1: for some time that I legitimately took a complete bath on.
• 4:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the markdown was, but it was
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  Speaker 1: somewhere in the neighborhood of 90%. Just get rid of it.
• 4:39
  Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, this is just gathering dust, both
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  Speaker 1: physically and psychologically. The more it sits in my house,
• 4:45
  Speaker 1: the more I want it.
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  Speaker 2: But also for me- So I can replace it with
• 4:48
  Speaker 2: new stuff. For me, though, I can't justify just giving
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  Speaker 2: it away. I'm like, I have to get something for it.
• 4:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, sure.
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  Speaker 2: Every now and then it's just five bucks. At least
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  Speaker 2: I got something for it.
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  Speaker 1: That's correct, yeah. Because you're the wheel at- You and Trump,
• 5:00
  Speaker 1: you're the art of the deal guys.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, so the new Simpsons movie. Yes, let's talk
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  Speaker 2: about that. I'm excited for it. I think- So we'll
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  Speaker 2: talk about the animatic. So they revealed the animatic as well.
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  Speaker 2: It goes for about three minutes. And the whole concept
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  Speaker 2: is apparently there's some sort of contest. There's a baseball
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  Speaker 2: player for the isotopes.
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  Speaker 1: He's hitting.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that isotope stadium, anyway. I don't think it was
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  Speaker 2: an isotope. He was throwing the batter. The batter and
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  Speaker 2: the pitcher. He hits the ball, and whoever catches it
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  Speaker 2: wins a lot of money, apparently.
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  Speaker 1: Gets a cash prize, yeah. So it looks like Homer's
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  Speaker 1: going to get it. Coming his way... Until it's not.
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  Speaker 1: Until it's not. And what ensues is the ball bouncing
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  Speaker 1: all through the stadium and then all through Springfield. And, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're getting a bit of tour of the town and
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  Speaker 1: a bit of a reintroduction to a lot of the characters,
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  Speaker 1: some of whom we haven't seen for a very long time.
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  Speaker 1: One personal favourite of guys. I'm not going to name names, but,
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  Speaker 1: you know... watch the reaction video. Please watch the reaction video.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. It's Aunty Pie in the Sky.
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  Speaker 1: It's Aunty Pie in the Sky. We're so happy to
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  Speaker 1: see you again. But yeah, when's the last time we
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  Speaker 1: saw him? 10 years or something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't remember. He's one of those characters that
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  Speaker 2: you've always loved. I haven't seen him in recent seasons,
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  Speaker 2: but it's been a long time. It's kind of like
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  Speaker 2: a poo. Now, I did see someone posted on Twitter saying,
• 6:02
  Speaker 2: a poo's in this. I was like, it's Sanjay. Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but for like 0.1 seconds, it's a poo. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: It's not.
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  Speaker 1: It's an animatic. It just looks like it's Sanjay.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, that's pretty racist, man. They're trying to throw
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  Speaker 2: us off. A poo's returning. Otherwise, why would they do this?
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, it's not a poo. It's Sanjay.
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  Speaker 1: Cite your sources, please.
• 6:21
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just Jacques was in there in the
• 6:26
  Speaker 2: men's room. Again, I think you were right. During that video,
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  Speaker 2: you were saying, the reaction video, you feel like this
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  Speaker 2: could be the opening sequence to the movie. And I
• 6:34
  Speaker 2: think you're probably right because you wouldn't reveal this much
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  Speaker 2: of the movie for it to be at the middle
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  Speaker 2: of the movie. It feels like, you know, you go
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  Speaker 2: to the movie like, oh, yeah, I've seen this, but
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  Speaker 2: now it's going to look better.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it's going to have, yeah, the sound's going to
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  Speaker 1: be amped up and the colour's going to be brighter.
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  Speaker 2: And things will be different.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely. You've just planted a tiny seed of doubt, though.
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  Speaker 1: What if this is the opening sequence and then after
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  Speaker 1: that we don't get as much sort of Springfield and
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  Speaker 1: the colourful characters of Springfield as we might have hoped?
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  Speaker 1: I was hoping that we'd, Not that this would be
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  Speaker 1: the whole movie, but that the whole movie would have
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  Speaker 1: all the hustle and bustle of Springfield. Not just about
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  Speaker 1: the Simpsons family. They may put them front and center,
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  Speaker 1: of course. It is the Simpsons movie, after all. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: take into account the whole town.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want this to be a town. The first
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  Speaker 2: movie was a town-wide story. Until it's not. Until they
• 7:26
  Speaker 2: get out of the dome. And then it's like, I'm
• 7:27
  Speaker 2: going to cut back to the dome and see how
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  Speaker 2: Springfield's gone for like 20 seconds. And then it's coming
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  Speaker 2: back to the family again. I'm like, this doesn't feel right.
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  Speaker 2: I hope this one stays within Springfield. And it's a,
• 7:37
  Speaker 2: it's a story that is incorporating the, like you said,
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  Speaker 2: and you travel all over Springfield. You go to the
• 7:40
  Speaker 2: power plant, you go to the church, you go, you
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  Speaker 2: go everywhere, but it stays in Springfield. Yeah. And I
• 7:44
  Speaker 2: don't want an outside big bad coming in. Just make,
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  Speaker 2: keep it within the confines of Springfield.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think something that we both liked about this animatic,
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  Speaker 1: this display as well, was the fact that it felt
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  Speaker 1: like a movie. It felt really sort of, it felt
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  Speaker 1: fast and big and energetic. I mean, not that the
• 8:00
  Speaker 1: average episode of The Simpsons is not those things or
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: can't be those things, but yeah, this felt like a
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  Speaker 1: big event.
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  Speaker 2: I was apprehensive when I first watched it. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, this could be, this could go one
• 8:10
  Speaker 2: of two ways. Either I'm going to really like it
• 8:11
  Speaker 2: or I'm going to go, oh, great. That's more of
• 8:13
  Speaker 2: that for the, in, what is it, September 2027. But no,
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  Speaker 2: I watched it and I went, it seems like they're,
• 8:20
  Speaker 2: they've got their heart in the right place and they
• 8:22
  Speaker 2: know what we want.
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: By incorporating as many characters as possible.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, but, I'm pretty excited. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: All right. So other news that they revealed at D23.
• 8:30
  Speaker 2: So this one wasn't really like news they revealed, but
• 8:33
  Speaker 2: it's something that happened. And I know we see, it
• 8:35
  Speaker 2: feels like every time we do a news episode here
• 8:37
  Speaker 2: at 4-Fingered Discount, we cover this story. The remaster of
• 8:40
  Speaker 2: Simpsons Hit and Run.
• 8:40
  Speaker 1: I was about to say.
• 8:42
  Speaker 2: It's just like, it's just won't die. It's like that
• 8:44
  Speaker 2: cockroach that won't go away. And I think it's got
• 8:46
  Speaker 2: to the point where it seems they've gone, fine. Because
• 8:49
  Speaker 2: what happened was, did you read what happened?
• 8:51
  Speaker 1: Well, this came from the source. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So what happened was they're doing the panel and they
• 8:55
  Speaker 2: took questions from the audience. And one fan said, is
• 8:58
  Speaker 2: there any chance of having a new Simpsons hit and run,
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: like a follow-up game? And sort of Matt Salmon's just
• 9:03
  Speaker 2: being sheepish as he always does. Oh, yeah, we really
• 9:05
  Speaker 2: want to. And Matt Green just comes out and goes, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think the original one's returning in some way, right?
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  Speaker 2: And it's like an awkward pause and someone just goes,
• 9:15
  Speaker 2: Or not. And then they swiftly move on to the
• 9:21
  Speaker 2: next story. So I feel like Groening there knows something.
• 9:25
  Speaker 2: Someone knows something, but we weren't supposed to know it yet.
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  Speaker 1: Many such cases at events like this, you know, you
• 9:32
  Speaker 1: always have someone who didn't get the memo or is just,
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: you know, a loose lips kind of person who feels
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  Speaker 1: they need to Share info with the world. Or they're
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: just absent-minded like Matt Groening and these guys.
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: If you're the ultimate conspiracy theorist, you could say, well,
• 9:47
  Speaker 2: maybe that was just purely designed this way to create
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: buzz for it. But then I would say, but this
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: was taking questions from the audience. And then that person
• 9:55
  Speaker 2: would say, well, that was a plant to ask that question.
• 9:57
  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay then, right?
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  Speaker 1: Conspiracy theorists have always got an answer. for this kind
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: of thing.
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  Speaker 2: There's always something, right? There's always, yeah, a justification. I
• 10:04
  Speaker 2: do feel that this was information that was not meant
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: to come out. When you watch it, you know, you.
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: Sometimes just get a vibe.
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  Speaker 2: Matt Salmon and Matt Gray aren't good at acting like this.
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  Speaker 2: Salmon looked like he was like, Caught off guard. Caught
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: off guard, indeed. So, I mean, I'll be excited. The
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  Speaker 2: thing is, though, do I want the original game to
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: simply remastered? Or do I want a modern version of
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: the same kind of game? Because Simpsons Hit and Run,
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: you can still play it now. And yes, it's not
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: 2026 graphics, but they're good enough. And it's fun and
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: it's enjoyable. And the nostalgia of it is it's a
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: 23-year-old game, so it's not going to look perfect, right?
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  Speaker 2: That's a bit of nostalgia for it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't simply.
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  Speaker 2: If you're going to remaster it, remaster the game, But
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: the way the game works though is, so there's various levels,
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: there's seven levels. And in the first level, you're in
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: one part of Springfield and you're driving around and it's basically,
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: it's like GTA, but Simpsons. You go to complete missions,
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: you drive and it's open world. So you can just
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: drive around and just get out of the car and
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: just wander for three hours if you want to. You
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: don't have to do any of the missions. You can
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: just wander around Springfield. But then, so the next map is,
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: you've got like, there's one where it's downtown Springfield and
• 11:09
  Speaker 2: there's one where it's like in the, in the heart
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: of the actual town where Moe's and all that is,
• 11:13
  Speaker 2: and the other one's a residential area, blah, blah, blah.
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: But you can't, they're not all joined. So if you
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: want to drive in downtown Springfield, you've got to do
• 11:20
  Speaker 2: level three and level five or whatever. I hope in
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: this new one, if they do remaster it, because some
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: guy has been remastering himself, sort of making his own
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: sort of mod on YouTube, and he's made it complete
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: open world. So you can drive from one to the next,
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: and it's one consecutive big giant map. I hope if
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: they do remaster it, they do that because it would
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: be fun to just be able to drive around all
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: of Springfield. Well, sure.
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you can play the old one and
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: it still works, then play the old one. I mean,
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: if you want to do it for nostalgia value or
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: you just like playing that particular version of the game,
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: then by all means do so. But if you're going
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: to be releasing a quote-unquote new version, make it a
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: new version. Don't just make it look newer. No, no, no.
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: Or do the same game, but have the open map,
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: but also add new missions to it and new characters.
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: Expand on it. Don't just give me the same game.
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: I mean- The game is great, but it's great already.
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: We've already got a great game. I can put it
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  Speaker 2: in my PlayStation right now and play it.
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: Got a new hat.
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, give me... Maybe I'll call it the new Simpsons
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: Hit and Run.
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  Speaker 1: One would hope not. But anyway, yeah, so there we go.
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  Speaker 2: But that was the first time where I've heard things
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: and gone, okay, it feels kind of real now because
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: Matt Graney was just like, yeah, isn't the first one
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: coming out? Because it was almost like he was answering
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: the question going, well, we're not getting a new one,
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: but isn't the first one coming out or something? And then, Yeah.
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: I'd say this with all due respect, and I'm not
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: trying to be ageist or anything like that. How old
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: is Matt Groening?
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, he'd be in his 70s now, right?
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: Let's have a look. I'm going to say 72.
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: What do you reckon? I'm going to say 74.
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: Matt Groening is 72. I promise you I didn't know that.
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: I did not know that.
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: I promise you I did not know that, and I
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: was right to not know it. But anyway, look, I'm
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: not saying....
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: I am- You're 15 years away from that, right? You're
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: 20 years away from that.
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: I'm a little younger than Matt Groening, and I'm going
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: to have occasions when I'll say, I've said something, it's like, oh,
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: was I meant to say that? Yes. Yeah, so- Slip
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: of the tongue. It happens.
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: The thing is for me, though, sometimes I don't believe it,
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: because it got to the point where I feel like
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: Marvel and Disney were sending out Tom Holland to accidentally
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: leak information.
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: I think the first time he may have accidentally leaked stuff,
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: but then it just became a bit, and everyone's like,
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: you can't say that. Ruffalo did it as well.
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: That's right, yeah.
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: Ruffalo is not a fucking idiot. He's not revealing stuff
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: unless it's been passed by the board.
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, one gets the feeling things are pretty... When you're
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: dealing with global expensive properties like this, yeah, one gets
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: the feeling.
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: They know what they're doing.
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of PR stuff going on behind the scenes. Yes.
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: All right, so the next news story we have here,
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: this one is not new movie related, but it was
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: doing the rounds because it was able to give news websites,
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: I say news lightly... the headline of The Simpsons Might
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: End Soon, according to the cast. And what happened was
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: our pal Michael Rosenbaum has a podcast called Inside of
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: You Podcast. It's a really good podcast. It's a really
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: good podcast, yeah. And Nancy Cartwright, the voice of Bart
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: and others, was a guest recently on the show. And
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: he asked her about... It's the question that they always
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: get asked. When do you think The Simpsons is going
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: to end?
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Michael's interviews usually go for an hour,
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: hour and a half.
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: You see about three minutes of them, I guess.
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: And then, yeah... 30 seconds of this bit has been clipped. Yeah.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: This is part of a much bigger, broader conversation. But yes,
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: we'll take this bit out of it.
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: So essentially, he asked her, when do you think The
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: Simpsons is going to end? And she thinks it's going
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: to end at season 40.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: Is she operating from any deep insider knowledge or anything
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: like that? No. Or is this just speculation on her part?
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: Or not even speculation on her, but it's like, oh- No,
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: she literally says, it's my opinion. Yes.
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: He's like, are you sure? And she's like, yeah, it's
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: just my opinion. I don't know anything. It's just, that's
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: what I think. And she's entitled to that opinion.
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: Of course, yeah. I mean, 40 years.
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: And the thing is, though, Matt Groening quickly dismissed that
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: at D23 because someone, one of the fans, another fan
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: brought it up saying, Nancy said the show's going to
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: end at season 40.
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: Is that true? And he's like, no. What? Why? Look
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: at this.
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: Why would we end this?
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: Correct. Yeah. And I think she also said, yeah, look,
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: I hope it goes longer and it may well do.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: Because you mentioned, I don't know how we discussed this
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: recently on a podcast, but the idea of the Simpsons
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: ending just seems ludicrous to me because the license, the
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: IP is just worth way.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: Too much money. Correct.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: You can make so much merch, money out of the
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: merch and whatnot. And it felt like for a long
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: time they weren't capitalizing on that.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: Now they've realized, oh shit, we can slap The Simpsons
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: on anything and these motherfuckers will buy it. So why
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: would they- It's an awfully cynical point of view, Dan.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: But yeah, but you're right. That's what they would say
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: in the board meeting. The thing is, why would they
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: end that? If people are still watching, if there are
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: people out there who are still watching The New Simpsons- Sure.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: Why would they end it?
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: Even if it becomes a Disney Plus exclusive, it's still
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: going to exist.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking. I mean, even if the
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: show doesn't exist anymore. As we know it, as 20-something people.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: If it's 15 specials on a year on Disney. Well,
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: that's the thing. Let me put it to you this way.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: I'd say that Bart Simpson, or Homer Simpson, or any
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: of the Simpson characters, but primarily, say, Bart and Homer,
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: are as iconic and recognizable animated characters as, say, Mickey
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Mouse is. When was the last time there was a
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Mickey Mouse movie?
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: I thought it was Disney Plus ones, yeah.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: Disney's Christmas Carol. It's all that kind of shit, yeah.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so The Simpsons still has to exist in one
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: form or another because you may not see Mickey Mouse
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: on screen going, Hi, it's me, Mickey Mouse. That was
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: a pretty good one, wasn't it? It was not bad, yeah.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: It wasn't bad. What's Brett Irwin? The guy, the new
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: voice of... Anyway, Brett. I know his name's Brett. He's
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: worried now.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, he's shit scared. Yeah, you don't necessarily see Mickey
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Mouse having adventures on screen or anything like that, but
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: you do see a hell of a lot of Mickey
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Mouse t-shirts. And, you know, figurines and Funko Pops and
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: all that kind of shit. So, yeah. The Simpsons is
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: going to keep existing.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Whether the show ends or not.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: I still don't think the show ends. I don't think
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: the show is going to end, but I think it'll
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: exist maybe in a different form or in fewer episodes
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: or maybe they'll just keep doing Disney Plus specials or
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: something like that. Who knows? But, yeah.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: In some form, it'll exist. Special-wise, I think, yeah.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Correct, yeah. I can imagine, though.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: The producer of Inside of You, the cameraman, when she says, yeah,
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: I reckon it's going to end at 40, he's sitting
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: there going, I'm going to clip the shit out.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Of this one. Little Edward Scissorhands over there. Yes.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: So they're currently in their 37th season. Well, it's just finished,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: the 37th season. Season 38 starts.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: On next month. Yeah, fuck, we're in September. Wowee. Man,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: this year has flown by, right? Oh my God, yeah. Yeah.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: So they've contracted up to 40 seasons. She also discussed
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: the topic of being replaced, didn't she?
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Correct. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of talk of
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: AI when it comes to things these days, particularly when
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: it comes to the creative industries and the replacement of
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: voices and voice actors who have been doing the same
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: thing for goodness knows how long. As the body gets older,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: so does the voice as well. And you can noticeably
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: tell in some cases. So if they want The Simpsons
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: to keep going ad infinitum, yeah, there's a chance that
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: you may have to the actor who gives the characters
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: these distinctive voices, or you make use of modern technology
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: to do so. We're still weighing up the pros and
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: cons of that. We did a really great interview. Well,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Dando did a really great interview. I sat next to
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: him while he did it. With Brent Forrester. Yeah.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Writer of Lemon of Troy.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Writer of Lemon of Troy.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Peggy's Turtle Song.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Writer of- Homer Palooza. Affiliated with many great shows.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I went through his weekly. I was like- This guy's
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: done it all. This guy's just hitting them out of
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: the park left and right.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: And to me, he's living the best life because he's
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: not like a household name.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, no.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: But he's had a solid career. He's earned enough money
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: to get by and be comfortable. Absolutely.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: And he probably lived a fun life. Oh, absolutely. And
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I get the feeling if you asked anyone in the
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: entertainment industry or anyone in the comedy writing industry, it's like,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: what do you think of that Brent Forrester? That dude's
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: the shit.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: That dude's fucking knocking it out. We talked a little
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: bit about AI and about the possibility of replacing... beloved
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: voice actors with that, they can hit the notes, but
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: they can't find the soul in it. Now, you know, AI,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: who knows what it will be able to get up to,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: I was about to say next year, but probably next week.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Will it have the soul that, say, Dan C brings
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: to his voice work? Unlikely not. You know, we still
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: need that human spark.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's like, you know, voice acting is two things.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: There's the voice and there's the acting.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: And AI will never be able to capture the acting because... Dan,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: say for example, right? I might give him a line,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: He's going to give him 20 different versions of that line.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Correct, yes.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Until they find the one that they want where AI
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: might try to do that but it won't quite capture
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: that human spirit.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: No, and then, you know, how does the other actor
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: bounce off that? And particularly if that actor is not AI. Yeah.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: There's two ways of looking at it though because there's
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: two ways. There's the way of looking at AI being
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: used from a voice actor's perspective and just a fan's perspective.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: And I completely understand why voice actors would be stressing
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: and furious that they could be replaced by AI.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, sure.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Because it's going to make them redundant, essentially, right?
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: If you do that.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: For me, though, as a fan, if I'm watching The Simpsons,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: I think I would prefer, personally, for the voices to sound.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: The way they always have. The same. Yeah. Yeah.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: I don't want my characters to sound like they've aged
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: if they haven't aged on the show.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Correct, yeah.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: And that's just the selfishness coming out of me.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I think Homer and Marge look the way they do,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: but the voices do sound different now.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: And to the point where I put a newer one
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: on for the kids recently, because they've been smashing through
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: the golden era. So my kids are eight and five.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: And Elliot said, why does Marge sound like that now?
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Why does Homer sound like that now? Why does Mr.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Burns sound like that now? Why does Ned Flanders sound
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: like that now? It was all these characters. He's going,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: why do they sound like that now? And I'm like,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: because the people that do the voices are getting older.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: And he goes, oh, why don't they get new ones?
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: That's just his eight-year-old mind.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Sure. He's eight. Yeah. I'm wondering how someone like Elliot
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: would feel about watching the very first episodes where Dan is, say,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: doing that.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: I was going to bring this up. He said to me,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: he goes, in particular, it wasn't Homer.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: It was, Mr.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Burns sounds weird in the first, in the older ones.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Okay. And he goes- Because we were just going to
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: watch Who Shot Mr. Burns?
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: And he goes, I put on a season two episode,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: the blood feud, right? And he goes, Mr. Burns sounds
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: different in the really old looking ones. And I was like, yeah,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: he does. Because the voice, the guy that does the voice,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: he's still working it out. And, you know, he just
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: changed it. And he goes, okay. But then when I
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: put the new one on, he goes, it was almost
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: like he was going, that doesn't sound, as opposed to
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: it sounds different. He goes, that doesn't sound right.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I get it. I get it. Well, I mean,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Nancy is not the only person who's talking about this.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Harry Shearer. I had a bit of a conversation about
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: this as well. He's been doing the rounds.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: He's got something to promote. He's got a new play,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: I believe.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: He's doing a musical about J. Edgar Hoover. Okay. It
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: sounds very on brand for Harry Shearer. But something he
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: talks about is about AI sort of voice replacement or
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: anything like that. But I think something that he mentioned
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: as well was you've got some actors who are being
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: very proactive and licensing their voices to, say, AI companies.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: I think McConaughey is someone who's really at the forefront
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: of this. He licensed his voice, which is very distinctive.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: So he allows him to AI his voice?
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah. I think someone like Don Connor Hayes
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: being quite proactive in, yeah, licensing his voice for advertising
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: or just, you know, maybe future-proofing his career as well.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: It's just the way of the future, I think. I
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: think it's going to get to a point where everyone
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: who's fighting against it is going to go, all right,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to win this battle. Let's find a
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: middle ground here.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's very much the case. I mean, right now
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: you've still got a lot of... Very anti-II people who,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: particularly when creative industries come into the mix.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Okay. Were people like this when the internet first started? Say,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to get a website. It's anti-internet. It's
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: going to ruin everything.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Yada, yada, yada.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: No.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: I think we were a bit more optimistic about that. Optimistic, yeah.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: In all honesty. It's like, oh, but- Superhighway. Well, it's
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: like we could have both. It's like, yeah, we'll have
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: newspapers and then you'll get extra information on the internet.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: That'll be fantastic.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Well, video stores would have been like this without streaming, right?
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't they? Oh, no. You're not going to like your streaming.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: You're not going to like it. You're going to want
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: to stay with video stores.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, no. I think with streaming, it was more like,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: we're bringing the video store to you.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: The video store was saying that?
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Well, I think video stores were kind of history by
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: the time streaming came around. Okay. Yeah. But certainly with AI,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: voice licensing and things like that, or even image licensing,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: because this is a very early example, but I think
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Bruce Willis, while he was in his phase of trying
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: to get as much money as he could before, you know,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: thing sort of went south i think he licensed his
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: image and he had like a deep fake bruce willis
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: in some ad i mean he i think he did
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: he did ads as himself but i think there was
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: also some like russian ad where it's see it they
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: deep faked bruce willis's face onto some stuntman or whatever
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: and it was selling vodka or whatever so yeah this
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: is not unprecedented.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Hey maybe and Obviously, what happened to Bruce Willis, maybe
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: he knew and he was like, I'm not going to
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: be able to do this myself.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: And I want my family just to be able to
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: make money from- You want 1985 Bruce Willis? You can
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: have him, baby.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: And honestly, it sounds despicable, but as a fan, I
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: don't care. If the actual person themselves is willing to say, look,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: I'm licensing out my face. Say Mark Hamill, for example.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher, Harrison Ford, they all say, look,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: I'm allowing Disney to do this. My estate is making...
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: My kids, my grandkids are going to make money from this.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: I will watch a Star Wars that's deepfake if they've
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: approved it.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: I get it. But at the same time, it really
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: does sort of slam the brakes on any sort of
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: future innovation. It does. I know. Yeah. Which.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: The fandom is just like, I don't care. I get
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: to see Harrison Ford from 1983.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I get it. I get that. But at the same time.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: There's a Catch-22.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: At the same time, I would hope that there is
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: someone just as talented, just as charismatic... Waiting in the wings. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: to be the star of the next Star Wars movie
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: or something like that.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: The thing is, though, eventually, the people who want the
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: 1983 Star Wars characters won't be around anymore, myself included.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Elliot's generation, he's watched the old Star Wars, but there's
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: going to be new Star Wars movies that are his
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Star Wars films, right?
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: And he won't want deep fakes of Harrison Ford and
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Luke Skywalker anymore. He's like, just give me the new stuff.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: So there's always going to be room for new stuff,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: and I think there's going to be room for... Nostalgia content.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's the thing. But yeah, the new stuff used
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: to be the normal. And now it seems to me
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: like we might be heading to an area where the
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: new stuff might be more of a niche.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Well, we peaked pop culture-wise, like 20, 30 years ago.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, certainly, yeah. We did it in 1986.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: We're in the year of nostalgia where everyone's going, oh,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: it was the best then, wasn't it? Let's just... And
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: everyone just seems to be so... with the state of
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: the world right now. They want to be taken back
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: to when they were a kid again.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Of course, yeah.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: It's like, put a bubble around me. Remind me what
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: it was like to eat Froot Loops and watch Saturday
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: morning cartoons.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. When everyone else was taking care of things
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: and I also knew the outcome. Yeah. That's why we
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: re-watch TV shows. Oh, very nice.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Because we know how it's going to end. But yeah,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: so what did Harry Shearer have to say? He was
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: talking about the AI and he was talking about how...
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: It feels like when you listen to a Harry Shearer
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: interview now, it's like, why are you still doing The Simpsons, dude?
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know why you're doing it because it's
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: the easiest money you can get. I say easiest money.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: I'm sure it's very hard to do the voices and whatnot,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: but it's a guaranteed.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Bank, right?
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: But he just comes across like someone who just does
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: not like The Simpsons anymore. When Nancy Cartwright, for example,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: comes across like someone who's embraced her persona as Bart Simpson,
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: and she's doing a podcast now, and she's doing the
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: clips of the various voices and whatnot, where Harry Shearer
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: feels like he could not want to be further away
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: from The Simpsons.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: I don't want to draw comparisons between the two people
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: we're talking about here, but I mean, Harry Shearer also
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: has a lot of stuff To his name. So does
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Nancy Catwright.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: But, I mean, this is a guy who- She's Bart Simpson,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: and the Simpsons voice actor. She did some other Disney cartoons, but.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: She's the Simpsons. She's primarily known as the voice of
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Bart Simpson. Whereas, yeah, Harry Shearer, he's a member of
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Spinal Tap. He was on Saturday Night Live. He's part
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: of the Christopher Guest sort of repertory company that does
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: all this great improv stuff that people really love.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Dan See, the same.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, likewise. Yeah, yeah.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Hank Azari, they've starred in movies and whatnot. Correct, yeah.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: I think Hank Azari's probably the biggest star out of
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: a lot of them.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Don't you think?
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Probably.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I think Hank Azaria is someone that you would recognize as, hey,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: that's Hank Azaria. Whereas Harry Shearer, it might take you
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: a second to go, oh yeah, it's Harry Shearer.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Isn't that the cameraman from the Godzilla in 1998?
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Isn't that the guy from the Truman Show? Yes. It's
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: also Truman Show? Harry... Oh, Harry Shearer. Yeah.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, Hank Azaria.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: I was like, who's Hank Azaria? Hank Azaria's in Godzilla
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: as well, isn't he? That's what I said. He's the cameraman. Oh, yeah. No,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: but Harry Shearer is in Godzilla.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Harry Shearer, he's the smarmy news reporter.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: In Godzilla. In Godzilla. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I said, isn't it the cameraman? That's Hank Azaria.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: But Nancy Cartwright's in Godzilla as well.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I think Roland Emmerich must have been a citizen.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: But he did say, and this is what the headline said.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: It was, he goes, I don't watch the show. So
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: the headline is, he's starred in 800 episodes and he's
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: never watched it before. I'm sure it was a throwaway
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: comment saying I've never watched it. Of course he's watched it.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Of course he's watched The Simpsons before. But yeah, he
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: comes across a bit....
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Grumpy's not the word. Maybe grumpy? I don't know. I mean,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: I've had discussions with people... Let's be generous and say
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: grumpy as opposed to bitter.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: I've had discussions with people who work on the show
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: without naming names. And they've basically said to me, yeah,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: we don't really hear from him anymore. He sends in
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: his lines and that's pretty much it.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, hey, why not? The guy's like 80-something, right?
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Correct, yeah.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: How old is Harry? I'm going to say 86. What
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: are you going to say?
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say 81. 81?
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: He's probably a bit younger than 86.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: He's 82. You nearly got it.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's 82, and he sounds 82. When you
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: watch New Sims, especially Mr. Burns and Flanders, you're like, oh,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: and Lenny. Let's do his voice. It feels like Julie
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Kavanagh's the go-to. Oh, my God, her voice sounds wrong.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Harry's voice is arguably more different.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Now, if in a perfect world, you could get Harry
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: or Julie. or Dan using their actor's imagination to, it's like, okay,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: this is the particular spin I would put on this line,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: or this is the inflection or the emphasis I would do.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: And then you had wonderful AI thing that's like, okay,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: I'm going to take that as is, but I'm just
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: going to, lower it an octave or raise it up,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: raise the pitch a little bit, or I'm going to
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: tweak the sound so it sounds like the Simpsons of old.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, would that be the perfect?
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: That's what I've always said. And I pitched that to
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: my pal, Matt Salmon. I was like, well, can't you
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: just sort of like tweak it? And he's like, no.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Is that out of because we don't have the tech
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: to do that or we've got ethical concerns or like
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Harry would come to our house and murder us?
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: The latter, I think.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: I was like, can't you just like, they can still
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: act it and you can just slightly make it sound.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: And he's just like, no.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, he's just like, no. He's like, don't
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: even start.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go back to the interview that I
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: always quote, the interview that I did with the late,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: great Joel Schumacher. Who? Ba-dum-bum.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: What did he say?
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Say the line guy. I'm not going to say the
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: line guy. Because this is unrelated. But I think we
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: were talking about some of the voice work of some
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: of the characters in his movie. Now, I don't know
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: if we were talking about, again, the late, great Val Kilmer.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Holy shit, everybody's dying. About the differences between his Bruce
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Wayne voice and his Batman voice. And I said, what
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: a wonderful sort of creative choice it was. He goes, oh, yeah,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: we sort of tweaked that in post-production to make him
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: sound different in the way that. So, yeah, this is
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: something that's been done. They did this back in the 90s. So, yeah,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: clearly it's a thing that happens. But I don't know.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: The thing is, that's one role. And it's also not
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: changing a role to sound like it used to. Saying
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: you can't do this properly anymore.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. And if you've been associated with these
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: characters for goodness knows how long and they become, if
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: not part of your personal identity, then certainly part of
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: your creative identity. Yeah, you're going to be possessive about it.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: And because the thing is, Val Kilmer didn't give a shit.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: He's like, give me my Batman money and you can
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: do whatever the fuck you want with my voice.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: I think Val took the word pretty seriously. But anyway.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: I thought he was good as Batman, Val Kilmer.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: I liked him. Yeah. I don't like Batman forever. I
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: don't think it's a good movie. But I like Val
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Kilmer in it.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: I have a nostalgia for it, which is why I
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: think I'd watch it with Royce into glasses.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm a little freak, so I like Batman Returns.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: I think Batman Forever, that's sort of Poison Ivy, right?
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: No, no, Batman and Robin.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: That's a bit freaky as well. Like, Uma Thurman, I'm like...
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: They're all kind of freaky.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Tim Burton is my kind of kink. Joel Schumacher
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: is other people's kind of kink. Yeah.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: And Arnold Schwarzenegger's Mr. Freeze, say what you will, like,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: He went for it.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, I think Arnold understood the assignment. Yeah. Yeah, I
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: think he probably understood it better than most people in
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: that movie. Yeah, all right. Anyway.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: But now, there's obviously, we're talking about Simpsons merch for
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: the Simpsons movie, but this isn't Simpsons movie related, but
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: there's more Simpsons merch that's been announced available at imretro.com.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: And they've been doing a lot of Jack Specific's toys.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: And it feels like in Australia, they've pulled the pin
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: on Jack Specific Australia because you can't find the shit
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: anywhere anymore. We have to order it from the States.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: But they've released, look at this, a Stonecutter Homer figure.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: A fat Tony figure. Comes with, I think it's knuckles?
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Knuckle dust?
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Like brass knuckles. Let's have a look. Oh no, it's
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: a wad of cash. So, the money. Is that all
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: it comes with?
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Let's have a look.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Would you want to, there's a brass knuckle. There you go, yeah.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: I think they look good, these figures.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Jack specific, get in touch.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: We need to be careful how you pronounce that. I mean,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: I'm sure everyone knows what Jack's Pacific is. It sounds
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: like we're saying Jack's Pacific. Jack specifically likes this toy. Yes, indeed.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: So there's a Homer here.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: I'm just thinking of a private eye called Jack's Pacific.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: I've got one particular question I'd like to ask him.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: That's his catchphrase. It's like fucking Columbia.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Let me get specific for a second.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Where were you on the name of the question? Specific Pacific.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: This is a Ben Stiller show skit. We've done well.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Brent Boris again in touch. There's a Santa Homer. So
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: one of the holy grails for Simpsons collectors is they
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: released like a five-foot dancing Homer in the 90s, I believe,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: like 98-ish, maybe early 2000, maybe 2002. And they did
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: a Christmas one as well. So there's like a normal
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Homer who just dances and there's a Santa Homer who
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: dances as well. And finding one now, in general, is
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: impossible for sale. Finding one that works is even harder
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: because people are like, yeah, I've got it, but it
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: doesn't dance anymore. So what the release here is- Never
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: going to dance again. It's just a plush Homer, which
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: one thing I struggle with is finding Simpsons Christmas-related merch
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: because we love decorating the house with Christmas stuff.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: No shit.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: And finding Simpsons-related Christmas stuff is near impossible, but I
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: feel like they're getting better with it. So there's a plush,
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: a 10-inch- plush coming out. This is the one I'm
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: intrigued by though. So this is, you know, Stretch Dude.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: It's a Stretch Armstrong. It actually stretches, which I think
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: is pretty cool. How big is this one here? It's
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: a 10-inch Stretch Armstrong. Is there a picture of it stretching?
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Let's have a look. Surely there's a picture of it stretching, right?
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: There we go. Do you ever have a Stretch Armstrong
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: when you were a kid?
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: So the kids have these things called jujitsus, which are
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: basically licensed Stretch Armstrongs.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Okay. So it's Spider-Man. Stretches.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: But they don't always stretch. Sometimes you squeeze them. They're
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: sensory toys, essentially.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Which are the big thing at the moment. The kids
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: are all about these- Needles.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Dumplings. Oh, yes, yes, yes. Dumplings are big.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dumplings are big. Except I said to my kids,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not buying you a dumpling because I'm telling you
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: in like three weeks' time, kids won't want them anymore.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: They will.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: I'm like, remember when every kid wanted a little boo-boo?
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: And now you can't see them anymore. You can't buy
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: them anymore. No one has them anymore. Yeah, I'm like,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: that'll be the dumpling. Anyway- caves, let Elliot spend some
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: of his birthday money in buying a dumpling, took it
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: to school, thought it was the greatest thing in the world.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I was like, you're taking dumplings today? And he goes, no,
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: no one brings dumplings to school anymore. I'm like, ah,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: that took, what, fucking three days?
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you about a little thing called the slinky.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: But this is cool, right? Oh, it is. And it
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: makes sense. He's a stretch dude. I just remember back
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: in the day when, you know, The only thing that
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: stretched was Stretch Armstrong. And that was his special powers,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: that he was stretchy. Yeah.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Well, I've got an original Stretch Armstrong. Well, it's not
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: an original one from the 60s or whatever, but it's
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: based on that one. It's just an old Stretch Armstrong.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: And I stretched it out for Holly. Now watch it.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: And it like slowly went back.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: She was like, what?
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: How?
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Her little mind was blown.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Other figures, we've got some Halloween themed ones. We've got
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Werewolf Flanders. We've got Homer is Death. And we've got
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Krusty when he was doing his Halloween Krusty special. I'm
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: a big fan of this one here, Donut Head Homer.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Another plush toy there. And I've got this one here.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: So this is Fly Bart.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. I saw that.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: So here is Fly Bart. I've got it right here.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be doing an unboxing on the YouTube channel,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: if you are listening out.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: There, with the kiddies.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: So make sure you look out for that. But what
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: I like about it is that it lights up.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: I didn't realize.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: So you put it in there, and he can turn
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: into Bart.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Neat. As the fly.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Clever.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Clever. Indeed. Indeed.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: So lots of cool Simpsons merch coming out, which I'm
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: pretty excited for.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I like that they've got King Size Home.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which is down there.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: And he's, you know, he's drinking the water. And there's
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: a Lard Lad as well. The problem is, I used
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: to get all this stuff given to me by Jack's
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Pacific Australia. And now they don't have Simpsons stuff in
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Australia anymore.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Jack pacific america if.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: You're listening send through some stuff please please do it'll
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: get unboxed.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: But that all this is apparently exclusive to i am
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: retro so check out i am retro in the states
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: and um yeah get yourself some new simpsons merch but
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: that is pretty much all the simpsons news for august
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: it's been a big month for simpsons fans oh my
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: goodness yes so the new simpsons movie the anime got
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: to see some of the new simpsons movie they've started
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: the hype yes um they've Matt Groening is officially hyped.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: The remaster of Sims is hit and run. In a
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: very Matt Groening kind of way. Well, what made me
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: believe it is that he didn't have a follow-up to
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Matt Summers saying, or not.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: He just sort of went, okay.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Glitched out. But yeah, let us know, guys, if you're
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: excited for the new Simpsons movie. We'd love to hear
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: from each and every single one of you. We're about
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: to record our next Mailbag episode for the people who
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: have sent through their questions. Make sure you do so
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: as well if you want to be a part of
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: the next Mailbag segment. It is mailbag at fourfingerdiscount.com.au. We
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: would love to hear from each and every single one
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: of you. But for now, Mr. Davis, any final words
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: for those incredible listeners out there?
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: She's got a new hat.