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- 0:00Warning. The following podcast contains an entertaining look at astronomy, physics, and
- 0:04space news throughout the known universe. Listeners have been known to learn about astronomical
- 0:08phenomenon the scientific method, and expanded vocabulary to include terms like quasar asterism and
- 0:14uranus. Listen, that's your own risk. Go ahead. When made of
- 0:23stars, made them stars, madies. When made of stars, you could
- 0:33be from high they would New Mexicomus. Where are stars? When we are
- 0:57made of stars? I'm West Carol, joined by my good friend doctor Seawan,
- 1:00cruising from Columbus State University's Coca Cola Space Science Center. Hey Sean,
- 1:04good morning. We's good to be here with you today. Let's jump straight
- 1:07into James Webspace Telescope because we have yet another cool discovery as another win for
- 1:15James web and it's discovered some deep space alcohol and other life chemicals deep space
- 1:25alcohol, Like, how does that mix with blue milk? I mean,
- 1:30that's a really great question. When I read this headliner, I wondered if
- 1:34the you know, the DEA was involved with some kind of you know,
- 1:38bust of some sort. Yeah, we got space alcohol and drugs. I
- 1:42don't know if that was on the radar, But no, it's actually the
- 1:46kinds of chemicals you need in order to have a world capable of supporting or
- 1:53possibly producing life forms. So what you're saying is, what you're saying is
- 1:57for a world to be capable life forms, they need some booze, they
- 2:02need food, and apparently they need adult beverages and some sort of painkillers.
- 2:07That's what I'm taking from this, all of those things. No, this
- 2:10is pretty cool, and I mean, like you say, this is important
- 2:15for life. Therefore, it's certainly something that we have to now pay attention
- 2:21to exactly, so, you know, beyond the silliness that Wes and I
- 2:24bring to this podcast, the actual story which appeared on Universe today dot Com
- 2:29is probably other places, but that's where I saw it. The headline is
- 2:32the web Telescope finds deep space alcohol and other life chemicals. That's the important
- 2:37part. So recently astronomers took some data with the James Webspace Telescope. They
- 2:42did this in the infrared part of the spectrum. They pointed this particular telescope
- 2:50and camera at a region that was not a massive protostar itself, but the
- 2:55environment immediately surrounding the massive protostar. So if you don't know what a protostar
- 3:00is, that's the star that's in the process of becoming. It's becoming a
- 3:06star, and so it's a big object that is mostly shining because of the
- 3:09heat of collapse. So think about like a cloud of hydrogen gas that is
- 3:15now under its own gravitational influence squeezing itself down, becoming hotter. It's going
- 3:21to eventually push the material in the center of that clump to a high enough
- 3:25temperature that fusion will kick on. That's when it actually becomes a star.
- 3:30It hasn't gotten there yet, but it's soon to be. So it's soon
- 3:34to be a star. So think about like our Sun and our Solar system
- 3:38in the earliest stages of that of the evolution of the Solar system that we
- 3:44live in. So we can look off into space and see other systems that
- 3:47are at this stage of their process of coming alive as a sun and solar
- 3:53system. So we're not looking at planets, we're not looking at a star.
- 3:58We're really looking at a net that's becoming. And what they did is
- 4:02they didn't point the telescope at the protostar itself, but in that surrounding gas.
- 4:08Right, So think about material in the same cloud. It's just not
- 4:12near enough to the center to participate in the star itself becoming a star.
- 4:17It's orbiting around that centralized mass. And in that cloud of that interplanetary medium
- 4:25in the Solar system information they found some really important things. They found some
- 4:30life chemicals that are organic compounds that are complex. And see, that's the
- 4:38thing about when we look in the infrared spectrum, we typically see materials that
- 4:44are already formed into molecules. So when we look in the visible spectrum or
- 4:48in the ultraviolet, we're typically only looking at individual atoms. They're not very
- 4:55complex, and that's because they're at such a high temperature that molecules simply can't
- 5:00hold together. So they kind of have to exist at that high temperature in
- 5:04order to be putting off light in the ultra violet or in the visible part
- 5:09of the spectrum. All right, Well, this is obviously a little bit
- 5:12cooler region, so the temperatures are a little lower. So when these atoms
- 5:15find each other and they bond, they can actually stay bonded together and form
- 5:20these more complex molecules because they're just not in an area that's at a temperature
- 5:26that's that high, and we can see those regions in the infrared part of
- 5:30the spectrum. It's one of the reasons why the instruments aboard the James Webspace
- 5:34Telescope are so important, in particular to study the process by which stars become
- 5:41stars and which solar systems become solar systems. So the object they're looking at
- 5:46is called IRASRAS and then the number is twenty two thirty three eighty five.
- 5:51So IRAS was another infrared satellite from a couple of decades ago that was surveying
- 5:58the sky, and so there was a big catalog of i r AS IRAS
- 6:02objects out there. I rest stands for by the way, Infrared Astronomical Telescope
- 6:09is where that acronym comes from. The Infrared Astronomical Survey is why it gets
- 6:13an S. So that s right there tells us that it's a whole survey
- 6:16of objects out there, things that are glowing in the infrared. We put
- 6:19them in a catalog. The number after it is the catalog number. So
- 6:24this is something that that we knew about already, which is why it ended
- 6:28up being a James web Target. It's like, hey, this is an
- 6:30interesting solar system information. We know it's a young version of something like our
- 6:34sun and our planets. Let's point James web at it and see what we
- 6:39find. Well, what we found was ethanol and methyl form an asse.
- 6:48I knew acetaldehyde. Ascetaldehyde is what was going to roll off my tongue.
- 6:56I was sitting here thinking what was the pneumonic device by which I remember the
- 6:59name of this organic compound? I can't remember? Well, I have,
- 7:00I have my methods, but yeah, al hide there you go. You're
- 7:04a professional, you know, name reader at university graduations, and I'm just
- 7:10a guy that stumbles over organic compounds. So that's fine. But yeah,
- 7:13acetl to hyde anyway, all of these things. Acetic acid is another one.
- 7:17By the way, we find these kinds of compounds in our food,
- 7:23in our plants, and in our body right and produced in part by biological
- 7:29processes. Now that's not what's happening. I'm not suggesting that biological processes are
- 7:33producing these compounds in the cloudy gas formations around this forming star. But what
- 7:40I am suggesting is that natural processes are providing these complex compounds that when planets
- 7:47do begin to form around that very young star, these compounds will be available,
- 7:55and so you'll find these maybe in the atmospheres or on the surfaces of
- 8:00some of the planets that will eventually form around IRS twenty three three eighty five.
- 8:05So that's an interesting discovery, but because it tells us a little bit
- 8:11about something about our own solar system. We can't see our own solar system
- 8:16when it was that young. We see it in a mature phase. So
- 8:20in order to study our own solar system when it was very young, we
- 8:24have to look out into the into the universe or into the galaxy surrounding us
- 8:28and find other much younger solar systems that are going through a process that we
- 8:33believe is similar to what our own solar system went through in order to get
- 8:37where it is today. So in the same way that we look for liquid
- 8:41water because we know, okay, liquid water could could obviously it's important need
- 8:46it to find life, and that's where we look. This is sort of
- 8:50looking kind of almost back in time at a situation to kind of understand how
- 8:56life got there and those sorts of things. Yep. Yeah, so one
- 9:00of the first things you need is liquid water to have the right chemistry.
- 9:05But then you need some Then you need some you know, life stuff floating
- 9:09around. You need some floaters in that water, right, that's that are
- 9:13capable. They're more advanced along the organic chain of molecules, so that those
- 9:20things which are essentially organic molecules that form the building blocks of life, it's
- 9:26it's important to have those in those interstellar ices so that the planets that form
- 9:31have a ready availability of those more complex molecules that also are in an area
- 9:37where you have liquid water that can also help form chains which may end up
- 9:41being life forms at something. Yeah, it's a. It's a and you
- 9:45need a certain amount of ACETL to hide and if you don't have that,
- 9:48you're you're not going to go anywhere with it. I would recommend two tablespoons
- 9:52every day, but you know that's me. We are not medical professionals.
- 9:56Please do consult with your own doctor exactly before taking any Aceatel dyde. Please.
- 10:05So last week we talked about this almost launch for Ross Cosmos and they
- 10:13were just you know, right there, man, they're counting down, it's
- 10:16about to happen. And then at the last second they had to pull the
- 10:20plug on this thing, and you know, twenty seconds. That's cutting it
- 10:24really close. That's insanely close. Actually, I can only and we talked
- 10:30about the fact that we had sort of history in the making as far as
- 10:33this woman from Belarus who was going to be going up, and she was
- 10:39a spaceflight participant, not necessarily an astronaut prior to going up. I guess
- 10:45she can check that box now. But they have launched, and I just
- 10:48and we talked last week about the fact, and please go back and revisit
- 10:52that show if you missed it, But how maybe the experience might have been
- 10:56different for experienced astronauts versus someone who had never been up before. And then
- 11:03at twenty seconds to go going, we know you're adrenalines already, everything is
- 11:07ready for you to go, but we're going to scrap this thing. We
- 11:11got a problem. But now they've launched and she's gone through it, and
- 11:15she's now I guess officially an astronaut. Yeah, I think I think this
- 11:18is true. I think once you're at you know, once you're in the
- 11:22capsule and you're at T minus twenty five seconds, I think you're pretty much
- 11:28prepared to go right right. I mean, you're you're thinking, okay,
- 11:31this is real, this is happening, maybe even all the way down to
- 11:33twenty one, you know, and then all of a sudden, somebody pumps
- 11:39the brakes at twenty You're like, well, well what wait, I was
- 11:43all ready to go. So yeah, that's what happened to them, you
- 11:45know last week. In fact, it was last Thursday as we were,
- 11:48you know, preparing to do the show. Right. So, and I
- 11:52guess just as a question, like because we often talk about and we've now
- 11:58we've got SpaceX who launch is so frequently, and you know, if they
- 12:01if they have a complication, it's almost like, and it's not quite to
- 12:05this point, but it almost feels like we had to, uh, we
- 12:09couldn't launch at eight this morning, We'll launch it to nine thirty. I
- 12:13mean, that's almost how it feels for them. It's just like they had
- 12:16to like if if they run into that problem. But it's one of those
- 12:20things we've all we joked over the years about we'd say, oh, this
- 12:22launch is going to happen weather permitting. We would kind of you know,
- 12:26joke about the fact that there could be complications from that and the fact that
- 12:31it's not very common to scrap it twenty seconds to go. So maybe you
- 12:35could make the case that a week ago, when she had the launch scrapped
- 12:39at twenty seconds to go, she was as much an astronaut as anybody.
- 12:46That's a pretty significant thing to have experienced as a spaceflight participant. When she's
- 12:52going to be asked to speak at the Lions Club or whatever, it's pretty
- 12:54much yep. So so to your point, to your point, it's a
- 13:03substantial experience because it almost never happens. You were talking about the reliability of
- 13:07SpaceX and just how you know, like clockwork, or how our anticipation of
- 13:13their success has become right, we just we just know SpaceX is going to
- 13:16launch and they're going to launch successfully and they don't really have problems, and
- 13:20we just it's dangerous to get this complacent. But you know, we as
- 13:24fans, right can afford to be a bit complacent. We're not actual engineers,
- 13:28and we just have gotten used to the rhythm of success. Well,
- 13:31that's very much the way the soy Use is. So the soy Use is
- 13:35a very reliable vehicle and system, and so the soy Use aborting at T
- 13:41minus twenty is not a common experience. And again we did talk about this
- 13:46last week. It's good to know that everything was okay. If you have
- 13:52to abort, it's better to abort then have some kind of a major engine
- 13:54problem. So that's all good. The good news is they were able to
- 13:58lift off on Saturday, so all that aboard happened Thursday of last week over
- 14:03the weekend. This MS twenty five crew, that's the mission number of the
- 14:07SOYEZ and now they've made it to the International Space Station on Monday, and
- 14:11they were greeted by a couple of other folks from Russia, ISS commander Odleg
- 14:16Codonenko, cosmonaut Nikolai CHUBBD no relation to Nick chub LINERSTA and Alexander Gribenkim.
- 14:26So these are all folks from the Russian contingent aboard the International Space Station.
- 14:33There are also some NASA astronauts aboard. Of course, we have the Crew
- 14:35eight team, which is Laurel O'Hara, Matthew Dominic, Michael Barrett, and
- 14:41Janet Epps. So these are all NASA astronauts that are also up there aboard
- 14:46the International Space Station right now. And then you add three more well friends,
- 14:50that's ten. So typically the crew load for the International Space Station is
- 14:56seven astronauts and cosmonauts. Right now, there are ten shall we call them
- 15:01all spaceflight participants. They're all participating in space flight. They are, they
- 15:05are, And I can tell I can tell you this. When there's ten
- 15:09people on the International Space Station, I understand, it really starts to smell
- 15:11like acetaldehyde. There's the faint aroma of acetaldehyde up there. It's just in
- 15:20the air. It goes through the vent systems. I mean, you have
- 15:24those carbon filters, and I'm sure they're doing the best they can, but
- 15:28just once in a while you pick up a faint hint of acetalde. Yeah,
- 15:33it's just kind of there every now and then. So it's a full
- 15:35house. It's not the fullest it's been, but that's a pretty full house.
- 15:39It's getting up there, right And so then an interesting fact is that
- 15:43the Chinese have three people aboard their space station. We have thirteen people in
- 15:48orbit right now, right, So you know that's a baker's doesn't I'm just
- 15:52saying, so sure, there's a lot of folks up in space right now.
- 15:56So this is a pretty full team. That's true. Well, good
- 15:58that they were able to get this this mission underway. We got another mission.
- 16:03I guess we should say, you mean, this is finally gonna happen
- 16:07because on the subject of getting missions underway Boeing star Liner, is this finally
- 16:12gonna happen? Is it going to actually fly? Because may Day? Is
- 16:18this really? Like? Can we get justin Timberlake to help sponsor this and
- 16:22and let everybody know that this might actually happen? I mean, is it
- 16:26maybe a Russian holiday? I'm just I don't know. I'm just sliding that
- 16:29out. There's no meaning behind that whatsoever. Listen, friends, Boeing.
- 16:33I love I love going to Seattle and going to the Museum of Flight in
- 16:38Boeing Country up there, because Boeing has been an American staple in the aerospace
- 16:45aviation industry, right they are. They are a company that had a huge
- 16:51role in getting us to the Moon, for instance, those kinds of things.
- 16:53So Boeing is just a very important American company. But they haven't had
- 16:56a good decade. It's not been the best decade in the history of Boeing.
- 17:00There have been some issues, and one of those is that back in
- 17:06the year twenty twenty, they accepted four point two billion dollars from NASA at
- 17:12the same time that on the same contract, SpaceX only got two point six
- 17:18For those of you accounting, that's just a little bit more than half.
- 17:23So in other words, SpaceX's contract for the commercial crew program was just a
- 17:30little bit more than half of what Boeing's contract was. SpaceX is flying people
- 17:37to space, people and supplies by the way to space so often that it's
- 17:41almost like a yawn when they launch Boeing's Starliner, paid for under the same
- 17:48contract with almost double the money hasn't gone anywhere. The only I mean,
- 17:56let me be fair with people on board. Yeah, it'd have you know,
- 18:00a flight, an uncrewed flight back in twenty nineteen, but it didn't
- 18:06work right. It had they had to abandon their mission, and it was
- 18:08an unpiloted vehicle, which is good, I means nobody was on board.
- 18:12It did manage to come down on its own parachutes. Okay, so there
- 18:17were some successes. But after that flight, NASA identified dozens of problems with
- 18:25Boeing Starliners, which was supposed to be, again based on the size of
- 18:30their contract, the lead vehicle to take Americans back to space after the Space
- 18:36Shuttle retirement to date, in twenty twenty four, they've taken no astronauts to
- 18:42space, whereas SpaceX has not only taken NASA astronauts, but they've also taken
- 18:48commercial astronauts up to the International Space s space flight practice. Yeah, yes,
- 18:56more more of those space flight participants. Well, there are a couple
- 18:59of of Space Shuttle era astronauts and International Space Station era astronauts. Butch Wilmore
- 19:07and Sonny Williams who joined over onto the commercial crew program as NASA astronauts to
- 19:15be the first astronauts to fly on star Liner. Well, they've been waiting
- 19:19for years and haven't gone to space yet because they're not the SpaceX astronauts.
- 19:27They're the Boeing star Liner astronauts. It's important to note that other astronauts chosen
- 19:33for the Boeing star Liner program have since moved on. They've simply retired from
- 19:37NASA's astronauts. I am not here to kill Boeing, but to praise them.
- 19:45I think that they've had a little bit of a rough patch, but
- 19:48they're about ready to fly. They're finally ready to go, and that will
- 19:52give us an important second vehicle if all goes successfully. Here's why. If
- 20:00there ever was an issue with the Dragon spacecraft that would ground NASA's astronauts unless
- 20:08they flew with the Russians. But if there's a second vehicle, then a
- 20:15systematic problem with the SpaceX vehicle would not necessarily ground NASA astronauts. They could
- 20:22just jump over and ride to space on the Boeing vehicle. So the deployment
- 20:29of a second system capable of taking astronauts to low Earth orbit is actually really
- 20:33important, which is why it's been a bit disappointing that Boeing has run into
- 20:38these obstacles. As a you know, a space flight enthusiast, a guy
- 20:44on the in the peanut gallery, in other words, I'm very happy to
- 20:47see that Starliner is getting their stuff worked out and maybe gonna fly. So
- 20:52so here's to them go. Butch Wilmore and Sonny Williams flight schedule no sooner
- 20:57than May first, but hopefull maybe not long after May first of this year
- 21:03we'll finally get to see the Boeing Starliner take astronauts to the International Space Station
- 21:07at the earliest. You know, justin Timberley could just sound off and let
- 21:12everybody know. Make it all just part of the meme coming up after a
- 21:18quick break, we're going to talk about a couple stories, one follow up
- 21:22on the Dart mission, as well as whether or not communication can be resolved
- 21:29with Voyager one. We'll get into that right after this. It's just always
- 21:56this time of year, especially like late April, when I just for some
- 21:59reason, I got en Sync songs stuck in my head and I can't get
- 22:02them out of my head. It just happens. Thanks a lot to the
- 22:04meme world. It's just how it goes. All right, let's talk about
- 22:08Voyager one. This sucker has been in space a long time and anytime we
- 22:12hear the stories and we go, they've lost communication, there's a computer issue,
- 22:18they've dropped out, we don't know if we're going, and they always
- 22:21get it back. It feels like they always resolve it and work it out.
- 22:26So now I guess they're optimistic because we've been in a bit of a
- 22:30problem with the computer for a little while. Now. Is this the longest
- 22:33gap of lack of communication board? I don't know what the record is,
- 22:38but I don't know what that is either. It's probably among the longer blackouts
- 22:42though in our communication with Voyager. But they say they think they can work
- 22:47it out. So what's the latest on Voyager one and whether or not we're
- 22:51gonna be able to, you know, find out what's going on in the
- 22:53world of deep space. So, first of all, Voyager one launch long
- 23:00enough ago that when they were looking for songs to put on the Gold Record,
- 23:03which is actually physically attached the spacecraft, there were no instinct songs on
- 23:07there. None, none whatsoever, not instinct not boys to men, you
- 23:11know, none of the boy bands. It was more like what you know,
- 23:15Tchaikowsky and Elvis and the Beatles count as a boy band? I mean,
- 23:19can we can we? And it's yeah, man, that's a great
- 23:22question for another podcast we should have. Maybe that could be a bonus content.
- 23:26The Beatles the first boy band. That's a really great question. I
- 23:30mean I think maybe, I think we. I think I did talk about
- 23:33this on another podcast with somebody else, but you and I can definitely delve
- 23:37into this on maybe a little bit had their own movies, right, Yeah,
- 23:41like a boy band thing at the very least. Then you got to
- 23:45go to the Monkeys. You know that we're based on the and they definitely
- 23:48were. So I mean, if you're based on the anyway, it's a
- 23:52well, well we'll do that. We'll do a bonus content episode at some
- 23:55point on that one. Well, it's been a hard day's night for boys.
- 24:00After seventeen thousand days in space, which they just celebrated last week.
- 24:08Seventeen thousand days in space, I think they're up to like seventeen thousand and
- 24:12six as we're recording this episode. That's more than forty five years. It's
- 24:17a little over forty six, So they've had over forty six years in space.
- 24:21That's a harsh environment, and the fact that that thing is out there
- 24:23still sending data back is stunning, really a stunning success. Now, it's
- 24:30a stunning success in part based on simplicity. Right, there's some pretty ultra
- 24:36basic engineered computers on that spacecraft. You know, they launched in nineteen seventy
- 24:41seven, so it was, you know, the best of mid seventies technology
- 24:47that the board that vehicle out there flying around. It's already done its flybys
- 24:51of Jupiter and Saturn, and then it's crossed into interstellar space back in twenty
- 24:56twelve, so that even that's twelve years ago, right, It left our
- 25:00Solar system twelve years ago, I mean, still working for a full perspective,
- 25:06think about how much your phone has changed year to year. They make
- 25:10a new one every year, and it's like that other one that's a piece
- 25:14of garbage, so year to year. Or a computer. I'm pretty sure
- 25:18a nineteen seventy seven computer was the cow says ooh right, I mean that's
- 25:25a computer in nineteen seventy seven. I mean, it's a good question.
- 25:29How many cell phones have you been through in your lifetime? Right? Cell
- 25:33phones were an early two thousands thing, right, So I mean since seventy
- 25:37seven, it's still going. It's really impressive. It's seventeen thousand, seven
- 25:45or eight cell phones in my lifetime. I don't know. I'd have to
- 25:48think about that, but mostly because I break them. I'll be honest,
- 25:52I'm responsible. It's not all a technological issue. Some of it's just physical
- 25:56mechanical. You know, me falling when I'm out climbing on some rock face
- 26:00somewhere and oh yeah, my phone was in my back pocket. That was
- 26:03a dumb move. And so yeah, I've broken a few along the way.
- 26:07But you're right that technology has improved so vastly also. All right,
- 26:11so now here's what happens. This mid seventies computer aboard a spacecraft that left
- 26:18our solar system. There's no way anyone could put hands on it. It
- 26:22fails. And we know it fails because, I mean maybe a bit like
- 26:29a human being that has a stroke when they start at losing language skills,
- 26:33you think, oh, gee, something's wrong. Well, the spacecraft kind
- 26:36of went through that. It just started talking gibberish, and it's like,
- 26:40oh, something's wrong with the CPU up there, something's wrong with this processor.
- 26:45And so they have like some kind of a corrupted memory unit aboard the
- 26:49computer up there on Voyager. Well, they can't go like just install new
- 26:55components, new hardware. What they actually have to do is a software fix.
- 27:02Friends, I sometimes can't get my laptop to do what I needed to
- 27:06do. But at JPL they can install a computer patch on a computer that's
- 27:15outside of our solar system since twenty twelve and get the thing to work again.
- 27:23So that's kind of what they're facing right, a nearly fifty year old
- 27:26spacecraft dauntingly losing sectors of its memory where things are just not running correctly.
- 27:36How can you come up with a software patch to fix that problem? Well,
- 27:40Joseph Westlake, director of NASA's Heliospheric Division, while speaking at a meeting
- 27:45of the National Academy's Committee on Solar and Space Physics. Pause, why is
- 27:51a heliophysics person talking about Voyager? Well, because Voyager left the Solar System
- 27:56and now it's studying the most outer reaches of theffects of our own son.
- 28:00Okay, so that's why this heliophysics guy is talking about Voyager one. He
- 28:04says this at the meeting. I feel like we're on a path now to
- 28:08resolution. They're on the right path, and I think we're going to get
- 28:14to the point where Voyager one is going to continue alive and kicking in space.
- 28:18Unquote Holy mackerel. Can I have that? It team? Those are
- 28:25the folks I want working for me, right, I mean, or are
- 28:27helping me out with my computer issues if they can fix I mean, there's
- 28:32no Internet past the heliopause. It's all radio signals, right. If they
- 28:37could use distant radio signals from Earth to reach out to this computer past the
- 28:44heliopause out there in interstellar space and install a software patch that gets around a
- 28:48bad sector on your membership, that's a win. And it's just another it's
- 28:55another interrupt you. But it's another component of we we talk about how when
- 28:59we talk about STEM careers, maybe you don't think about, hey, I'm
- 29:03going to be doing software patches for a deep space aircraft, right, Like
- 29:07that's not something that we probably think of as a possible career path when it
- 29:12comes to working for NASA. But there you go. There's also an aspect
- 29:18of like, well, why do I need to learn anything about like last
- 29:22year's technology? I want to look, I want to work on the hottest,
- 29:26cutting edge stuff. Well, the only way you fix this problem is
- 29:30you know about computer systems that existed in nineteen seventy five. That is a
- 29:34great point. Do you have to know not just how current computers work,
- 29:41but how shall we call them computers from the distant past? How they function,
- 29:45how they're set up, what is the architecture so that you have a
- 29:48prayer of being able to solve this problem. I got a buddy who was
- 29:53an actor on the show Halt and Catch Fire, which was you know,
- 29:56set maybe eighties, not quite that far back. But you know, just
- 30:00as an actor, maybe he picked up a few things terms that you know,
- 30:03maybe he could have helped. But you have to be a history buff
- 30:07when it comes to that old programming in those old systems, you have to
- 30:11understand them in a different way. Yeah, it's diversity of knowledge is a
- 30:18really important thing, right. Not only do you need to know the very
- 30:22specifics to get your job done, but it's helpful if you know how people
- 30:26get their jobs done in other areas, including the past, how systems used
- 30:32to work, because you never know when you're going to get called into work
- 30:34on it. And if you stand there and go, I've never seen this
- 30:37before, then that's not all that helpful. Let me just say we talk
- 30:41about with the telescopes and James Webb and going, oh man, they're literally
- 30:45looking back in time seeing these things when we're looking into deep space. But
- 30:51there you go, that's another way we're looking back in time. Pretty cool
- 30:53stuff. Let's talk about Dart because we kind of tease this story last week
- 31:00and it's just another I guess update on the successes of the Dart mission.
- 31:04And basically, this was a mission that was, hey, let's see what
- 31:10would happen if we punched an asteroid in the face, and we know a
- 31:14little bit more about what happens. I mean, I never get tired of
- 31:18talking about the story because that sock in the eye of an asteroid happened on
- 31:22my birthday a couple of years ago. So I was celebrating my birthday by
- 31:26texting all my geee former students who work at NASA at other places now,
- 31:30and we were all watching it simultaneously as this, we shouldn't call it a
- 31:33satellite, it's a probe. It's a spacecraft slammed full on right into the
- 31:40face of an asteroid and said, here's one for the dinosaurs to take that.
- 31:44So anyway, we now know how to swing back because everything that's come
- 31:49out since then has all been reports of how much more impact, so to
- 31:55speak, on this asteroid was had than what was expected. Okay, well,
- 31:59now the story this week is an actual study by a navigation engineer at
- 32:06JPL Hintu Naido. How about that you're you're the name pronouncer It works for
- 32:15me. Nid As a navigation engineer at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory who was the
- 32:20lead author on a study of just how much affect the asteroid suffered because of
- 32:27the dart hit. Now we know it's orbit changed and this is not This
- 32:30has been something that's been known for a while. We've talked about it on
- 32:32this show. The orbit changed by thirty three minutes fifteen seconds. It was
- 32:37that it was something around twelve hours. Is now eleven hours twenty two minutes,
- 32:44a half an hour change in how long it takes this one asteroid to
- 32:49go around another one. That's already a pretty drastic difference in the orbital time.
- 32:53But in addition to that, they use radio transmissions or radio data i
- 33:00should say, gathered on the passing of the small asteroid in front of the
- 33:04larger asteroid to figure out that the shape of the smaller asteroid is now substantially
- 33:09changed as well. Think about it. This asteroid, which is called dimorphous,
- 33:17formed in the gravitational field of its larger asteroid parent body called didymus.
- 33:22It formed as a rubble pile, which means it just pulled itself together under
- 33:28mutual gravitational attraction. Has the consistency kind of like balls at a ballpit in
- 33:32McDonald's or one of those other famous restaurants that have ballpits anyway, so you
- 33:37can think of it as a loosely aggregated collection of spheres, and those kinds
- 33:43of systems tend to pull themselves into a larger spherical shape, much the same
- 33:47way when you blow a soap bubble out of the little wand in the little
- 33:52soap dipper and you blow that out into the backyard and it's drifting through the
- 33:54air, it'll pull itself into a sphere. It pulls itself round because that
- 33:59is the most stable configuration under what we call hydrostatic equilibrium. It wants to
- 34:05be round. Well, so then this thing just pulled itself into a round
- 34:08shape. Well it's not round anymore, friends, It's not round anymore because
- 34:14it got a giant sock in the eye from the Dart spacecraft. And now
- 34:20poor little dimorphous is triaxial ellipsoid, in other words, watermelon shaped. In
- 34:27other words, it looks more like a pigskin on NFL Sunday than a basketball
- 34:31in March Madness. All right, so you can think of it that way.
- 34:36It looks more like Leon Spinks's head after that ninety seconds fighting with Mike
- 34:39Tyson. You know it's you know, one time Leon Spinks's head was perfectly
- 34:45Leon Spink's head shaped, and then he fought Mike Tyson, and then suddenly
- 34:49it just had a whole different shape to it. I mean I saw some
- 34:53of those punches fly in that particular fight that you're mentioning. There weren't many,
- 34:59there was there at least one that looked a lot like the Dart spacecraft's.
- 35:05At least one of those probably felt like it too. So the whole
- 35:10system is going to get a closer look with a vehicle that's scheduled to launch
- 35:15in October of this year. It's the European Space Agency's Haramission HGRA. The
- 35:21hair Mission is going to make a flyby of this double asteroid system and get
- 35:24a much closer look at the damage done to poor little dimorphous out there by
- 35:31a really intentional spacecraft collision with the Dart spacecraft. So this is fun to
- 35:38keep talking about Dart. I'm gonna mention Dart every chance we get. I
- 35:42can't wait until the next mission where we intentionally punch an asteroid in the eye.
- 35:45Yeah, it seems like it would be another big event. And speaking
- 35:51of big events, that's my segue into talking about the eclipse, because I
- 35:53got very excited. I've got a friend who's the manager at tim O here
- 36:00in Columbus where we do the show from, and her store got a remodel
- 36:06job. They're reopening tomorrow. We're recording this on Thursday, the twenty eight.
- 36:09They're reopening on the twenty night. And one of the big promo items
- 36:14that they were giving away to like loyal customers in for this week was some
- 36:21eclipse glasses. So I got in touch with her knowing that they were going
- 36:23to be closed, and she got me some of their eclipse glasses. I'm
- 36:28excited about that, and I was able to, you know, send you
- 36:31some photos of my class. But they're pretty cool. I mean, they
- 36:35were sunglasses but also had this eclipse lens that you put on the front of
- 36:38them, just like you know, somebody might put sunglasses on the front of
- 36:43their normal prescription glasses. But a nice little item. And I thought,
- 36:45well, that just gives you an idea of how excited the country is about
- 36:50this eclipse. I mean, I think that I'm fairly jealous at this point,
- 36:54because I'm going to be I've got a nice pair of those little paper
- 36:58ones from our gift show up here at Space Science Center, and that's gonna
- 37:01be my primary optical look at this eclipse event. When I'm in the path
- 37:06of totality, I'll be using paper glasses, so you know the clip on
- 37:09thing. I'm a glasses wearer, so I would love to have some clip
- 37:14on you know, eclipse glasses, you know. But I mean, I'm
- 37:15not a T mobile customer. I might be by the end of the day.
- 37:19So anyway, that's not an advertisement for T Mobile. That's just me
- 37:22trying to count some eclipse classes. So so, no, the event is
- 37:25on April the eighth, and friends, no matter where you're listening in the
- 37:29continental United States, you're likely to be able to see some portion of this
- 37:31eclipse just because of the vector of the shadow across the across the continent.
- 37:37However, the path is actually very specific for totality. It's coming up through
- 37:42the Nation of Mexico into the Great State of Texas, and then across portions
- 37:46of Arkansas, Missouri, and other central states up into the New England area.
- 37:52I'm gonna be in Waco, Texas, hanging out with Chip and Joanna.
- 37:57I'm gonna be out there, you know, picking mag No something and
- 38:00watching the eclipse from Waco. So that's that's gonna be my my chosen path
- 38:06of where to get into the path of totality. If you can't get away
- 38:10from the city of Columbus, Georgia, where we record this show, and
- 38:14you're in the greater you know, so shall we say West Central area of
- 38:19Georgia or East central area of Alabama, and you just don't know how to
- 38:22see the eclipse and you just didn't get your paper glasses in time. Well,
- 38:27I have an announcement for you. We hear the Coke Cola Space Science
- 38:30Center in Columbus, Georgia are not only going to have a supply of paper
- 38:36glasses, we are also going to set up our own telescopes through which people
- 38:42can view the sun. So, starting at one thirty pm on April the
- 38:45eighth, which is a Monday, that's eclipse Day, we will begin our
- 38:52event right about the time that the Moon starts to pass in front of the
- 38:55Sun for approximately an eighty percent cove ridge as viewed from our location. That's
- 39:02still a pretty darn substantial eclipse. It's going to be a really interesting event
- 39:07to see. So if you're in our area and you're not planning on traveling,
- 39:13you can either just go out in your backyard with a pinhole viewer or
- 39:16something like that, or perhaps you got those paper glasses ahead of time.
- 39:21By the way, make sure that are the ISO rated glasses and not any
- 39:24of the knockoffs that happen to be floating around out there on the internet right
- 39:29now. The actual glasses will have the ISO test numbers on printed on the
- 39:35glasses themselves. If you're not sure if you're gonna getripped off or not,
- 39:38we have the actual certified glasses down here at Space Science Center. Come by
- 39:44the gift shop pick up your own pair. But we want you to see
- 39:46this eclipse. If you can't do it on your own, come to Space
- 39:50Science Center that afternoon and we will help you see the eclipse. We're also
- 39:52going to have our big telescope on the Sun for part of that eclipse event,
- 39:58and so we will have it up through the maximum coverage time and we
- 40:01will be broadcasting that via our Facebook page. Also, we will be sending
- 40:08images into our planetarium so you can come indoors. If you have trouble being
- 40:13outside in the sun or standing up or those kinds of things, you can
- 40:16come indoors into our planetarium and watch the eclipse from there. So all of
- 40:21these things are are opportunities for you to see the eclipse here at Club State
- 40:25University's Coca Cola Space Science Center and be as sure that we're going to give
- 40:29you the safest view of that event possible. I was going to surprise you
- 40:31in person with them, but I got you a pair of these glasses.
- 40:35I did snag you a pair of the clip on glasses, so you're good
- 40:40to go, man Io rated and everything. Yeah, I got your They're
- 40:45not in my reach. I wanted to pick them up, but they're not
- 40:46in reach where I'm at at the moment. But I got you, man,
- 40:51I got you. I am appreciated. I thought of you immediately as
- 40:54she's handing them, and I'm like, I'm going to need at least one
- 40:57more. Oh man, I'm going to need it, at least one more.
- 41:00So. Well, it's a big event and I'm looking forward to talking
- 41:07with you about it again next week as we get closer. But before we
- 41:09get to next week's show, we got one more thing to talk about,
- 41:12which is I guess the final music under the dome with this time of this
- 41:19season. When I say final, there'll be more. I didn't want to
- 41:22leave it hanging there. That's a bad place to drop it. But final
- 41:25one of this particular season with a brand new system in place for this thing
- 41:31for our first time listeners. Music under the Dome is a concert series that
- 41:37we host with the Clumbus State University Shoub School of Music. We ourselves are
- 41:40part of Columbus State University, so this is a cross campus collaboration and the
- 41:47musicians and singers from the Shop School of Music come in and perform live inside
- 41:52our planetarium with visuals on our dome produced by a variety of artists secifically for
- 42:00the show. So they are original graphics that are choreographed to the music,
- 42:06produced by a variety of artists from literally around the world. And it's going
- 42:10to be our last show of this concert season. As Wes just mentioned,
- 42:14we go by the academic year, so this will be the last one for
- 42:17our spring semester here. It's going to be April the second, and it
- 42:22happens well. The fun starts about five pm. The concert kicks off just
- 42:28a little after five thirty pm. There's a wine and cheese reception beforehand,
- 42:32and then you get to go in and see this wonderful concert inside our planetarium
- 42:37dome with live instruments and things. We generally sell tickets online, but we
- 42:43also reserve a segment of tickets for day of the show sales. All of
- 42:47the online tickets are already gone. It's in terms of buying your tickets ahead
- 42:51of time. It's a sold out show, so the only way to get
- 42:53tickets now just come down in person. But again April the second, opening
- 42:58up about five pm, you can come down and get one of those in
- 43:01person tickets and come join us for this wonderful concert event inside the Atmosphere Theater
- 43:07here at Columbustate University's Coca Cola Space Science And that will do it for this
- 43:12week's edition of the show. Sean and I thank you for listening, and
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