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Packers Training Camp LIVE - 7/30/26 - Hour 1 · The Huddle

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  Speaker 1: Welcome in Packers fans across the country coast to coast
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  Speaker 1: as we broadcast day two of Packers Camp. It is
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  Speaker 1: training Camp lie presented by the Potawatami Sportsbook on Bill
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  Speaker 1: Schmid alongside the voice of the Green Bay Packers, Wayne
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  Speaker 1: Larvy and Wayne. Day one a short in and out.
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  Speaker 1: Day two once again not in pads, but now you
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  Speaker 1: get the recap of how day one went, most importantly
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  Speaker 1: in a different direction than usually you're doing training camp.
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  Speaker 1: You know, normally get healthier. We get Keishawn Nixon back
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  Speaker 1: today on the practice field, and we get into day
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  Speaker 1: two of the preceding year rangege.
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  Speaker 2: You know, a couple of guys coming back goach. Is
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  Speaker 2: good to see. And Matt Lafleur mentioned earlier this morning
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  Speaker 2: in his pressor that you know they a lot of
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  Speaker 2: this at this time of year, an abundance of caution
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  Speaker 2: on these guys. If they tweak something, they feel something,
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  Speaker 2: come off the practice field, let's get it checked out
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  Speaker 2: and then proceed from there. But you don't get the
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  Speaker 2: Packers yesterday at ten guys out and today not quite
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  Speaker 2: as many as that, but still the one big, the
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  Speaker 2: one concerning issue would be Luke Muskgrave, the backup tight
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  Speaker 2: end mm hm uh, his former second round draft choice.
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  Speaker 2: That neck injury. You get just reading between the lines
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  Speaker 2: of feeling that there's some concern here about that.
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  Speaker 1: And it being a little bit of a reaggravation. I
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  Speaker 1: know Matt mentioned of a situation that happened earlier on
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  Speaker 1: for him. That's anything in the head and neck area
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  Speaker 1: obviously is going to be of concern. But there's there's
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  Speaker 1: some reason to believe that he was gonna would factor
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  Speaker 1: in on the pass catching variety here Wayne, But there's
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  Speaker 1: a that's a former second round pick, and if you're
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  Speaker 1: talking about the head and neck, there's a there's a
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  Speaker 1: long haul that might come back. And that's a position
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  Speaker 1: where you know, you and I when we were doing
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  Speaker 1: the Draft show, thought maybe they would have they would
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  Speaker 1: attack that spot and said we're unable to do that.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe that's a waiver wire situation that you have to
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  Speaker 1: look at here into camp.
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  Speaker 2: And I feel for Luke because Billy he's had nothing
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  Speaker 2: but injury issues in his short time here in Green Bay,
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  Speaker 2: and he's a good kid. He's a very good talent.
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  Speaker 2: You can tell when we talked to Matt with flour
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  Speaker 2: he can tell he would just love to be able
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  Speaker 2: to unleash some things with that kid downfield. Now they're
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  Speaker 2: gonna put him in line and make him block. No,
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  Speaker 2: he's a guy who can stretch the scene, get open
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  Speaker 2: over the middle of that kind of thing. We've seen
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  Speaker 2: flashes of that, but unfortunately injuries have interrupted his career
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  Speaker 2: time and time again. And and you just feel bad
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  Speaker 2: for the kid because you know he's doing everything he
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  Speaker 2: can to get on the field and stay on the field.
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  Speaker 1: No doubt. And came in from Oregon State with a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of a foot thing, if I if I
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  Speaker 1: remember correctly, and classic tale is old as time. It's
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  Speaker 1: harder to get healthier in the NFL, but this won
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  Speaker 1: a different situation and hopefully better news there to come,
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  Speaker 1: and some better news from Keishawn Nixon that he's back
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  Speaker 1: here at practice. Felt a little something grab with the hammy.
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  Speaker 1: He's out with the ones most likely once we get
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  Speaker 1: to a team drill. But Brandon CIEs was one of
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  Speaker 1: the talks of the day. Why And it's it's hard
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  Speaker 1: to get the full grasp on who everybody on the
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  Speaker 1: other side of the aarters and such are seeing, But
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  Speaker 1: Felling number two really jumped off the pageal ey.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah he did. He had a nice practice and
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  Speaker 2: I know that Matt Lafleur is excited about the talent
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  Speaker 2: he can bring to this football team at the cornerback spot.
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  Speaker 2: And I think the goody and again, Demani Jackson's another
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  Speaker 2: guy I'm anxious to see the cornerback out of Alabama.
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  Speaker 2: We did not see him in the offseason workouts, the
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  Speaker 2: OTAs in the MIDI camp. He was nursing in injuries
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  Speaker 2: back on the field. Now I looked out there, said
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  Speaker 2: who's number twenty? Oh wait a minute, Demanti Jackson. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I hadn't seen him for a while. But that's another
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  Speaker 2: kid in the draft. They I think they've got more
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  Speaker 2: competition at the cornerback spot. Will that make them better? Well,
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  Speaker 2: usually competition does make you better. But we'll see it.
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  Speaker 2: But sisa was one guy. Kean Drones, Yes, the quarterback
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  Speaker 2: made a nice throw to Isaiah Nayer. Those are two
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  Speaker 2: guys that folks. If you're listening, and maybe you haven't
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  Speaker 2: heard about those two guys, but you know, Kyron Drones
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  Speaker 2: is a quarterback that they're intrigued with. Okay, And you
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  Speaker 2: could get that sense in the OTAs in mini camp.
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  Speaker 2: They really like his skill set. Very athletic guy, has
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  Speaker 2: a big arm, he can make the throws. But he's
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  Speaker 2: also very athletic. However, he is very raw and he's
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  Speaker 2: a developmental project. And where does he fit in the
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  Speaker 2: quarterback tree and that type of thing, Well, only time
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  Speaker 2: will tell. But he made a nice play yesterday and
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  Speaker 2: then my guy Marlon Jones right in front of us
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  Speaker 2: here on the pylon picks away a red zone passant
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  Speaker 2: would have taken it all the way. Great stories we
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  Speaker 2: mentioned out of Vanderbilt. He's he's a guy to kind
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  Speaker 2: of keep an eye in a cornerback of Rooky free Age.
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  Speaker 1: A bit of a miracle man if you look at
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  Speaker 1: a stage three lymphoma. Yeah, as a junior in college
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  Speaker 1: and to be able to do that, those are you
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  Speaker 1: got to make a play a day, it seems like.
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  Speaker 1: And it's difficult to just put that out in front.
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  Speaker 1: And I know the coaches and player personnel people would
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  Speaker 1: say it as such, but plane, it's difficult when it
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  Speaker 1: is a daunting task you see it as a young
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  Speaker 1: player and an undrafted rookie lake like Marlin or Drones
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  Speaker 1: as you mentioned, but like those are guys who you
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  Speaker 1: stack days continually and then you get a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more buzz drones to somebody who's gonna get a lot
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  Speaker 1: of opportunities in the games. I would assume to probably
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  Speaker 1: lock up one of those practice squad spots to fully develop.
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  Speaker 2: Because the Packers do that, he and Kyle McCord will
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  Speaker 2: get a lot of time at quarterback in these preseason games.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll get Tyrod Taylor out there to work
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  Speaker 2: a little bit. We'll probably see I think we're going
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  Speaker 2: to see starters play a couple of series this preseason,
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  Speaker 2: and then they'll use that week against Arizona to really
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  Speaker 2: try to sharpen things up in practice. That one day
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  Speaker 2: of joint practices they have with the Cardinals who come
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  Speaker 2: in here for the last week of the preseason. But
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  Speaker 2: I think, you know, probably week two. I would imagine
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  Speaker 2: you'll probably maybe week one. I don't know. We'll have
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  Speaker 2: to see how Matt wants to play it. But they'll
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  Speaker 2: get their starters some reps and Billy how important is
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  Speaker 2: it defensively with the new system and all that, for
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  Speaker 2: them to get a few reps in there in a
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  Speaker 2: game situation, not a controlled practice, but a game situation.
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  Speaker 1: It's got to be pretty paramount even just the communication
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  Speaker 1: style you would think needs to get into a game.
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  Speaker 1: And that's a tough balancing act way. Because we're two
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  Speaker 1: weeks from today, the Packers will be in Pittsburgh at
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  Speaker 1: formerly Hinesfield playing a preseason game. That also then is
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  Speaker 1: a month before you play a regular season game. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: as much as you want to protect and you don't
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  Speaker 1: want to put some guys out there too late in
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  Speaker 1: the process, you also don't want it to be too
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  Speaker 1: early and then you know you're out there for a
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  Speaker 1: series and then you go and wait a month. That's
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  Speaker 1: a tough balancing act. That's why I think Denver's probably
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  Speaker 1: the best one and Arizona's timed very well in the
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  Speaker 1: joint practice, but from the communications standpoint, especially on the road,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's pretty important that you get a couple
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  Speaker 1: of reps in.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, I was a little surprised, to be
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  Speaker 2: honest with you, Billy, I thought going to Denver we'd
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  Speaker 2: do another you know, scrimmage with them in practice. But
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  Speaker 2: Matt Lafloor mentioned last year when we went out there
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  Speaker 2: that okay, so you did the practice against the Broncos,
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  Speaker 2: on Thursday, yet all day Friday. Okay, that's fine, But
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  Speaker 2: then the game wasn't until like eight o'clock at night
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  Speaker 2: on Saturday, and it was used a long long time,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of downtime on the road a long time,
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  Speaker 2: and it wasn't very productive in that regard. So he
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  Speaker 2: decided not to do anything on the road. But his brother,
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  Speaker 2: with a newly minted head coach of the Arizona Cardinals, Michael,
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  Speaker 2: bring the Cardinals in here and that'll be a real
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  Speaker 2: family affair, I'm sure, for the La floors.
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  Speaker 1: And get to face the old the former Cardinals coach
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  Speaker 1: as well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, John, there's a lot of intrigue that week.
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  Speaker 2: I'm waiting. I'm looking forward to it already, already, no kidding.
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  Speaker 1: This is the mode of camp. You get in, you
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  Speaker 1: hurry up, and then you'll wait for the next process.
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  Speaker 1: We can't wait for pads to get popping because this
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  Speaker 1: offensive line drills that are happening off to our right
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  Speaker 1: will have a little bit more gusto to it. Yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: the one dropout throughout the day that the Tough News
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  Speaker 1: was seeing Jagger Burt in the fifth round pick exit
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  Speaker 1: earlier on walk off with the trainers and and seemingly, uh,
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  Speaker 1: he's not here today out with a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a hammy deal. But he's over there talking to the
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  Speaker 1: rehab group right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's here, but no helmet. Yeah, and that's the
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  Speaker 2: key to doing any drills. But I would imagine it's
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  Speaker 2: it's a minor thing and that he's talking to general
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  Speaker 2: manager Brian Goodikutz right now. And I would imagine it's minor,
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  Speaker 2: and I would think he'd be out here probably next
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  Speaker 2: week or now at the latest.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Wayne my man was talking to the GM and
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  Speaker 1: then now he's he's a big cat. Now he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: walk over towards us, and I'll maybe get a little
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  Speaker 1: bit quieter here as Jagger Burton walks over. But he's
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  Speaker 1: got the play sheet, he's got the towel. He was
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  Speaker 1: wiping that sweat off the brow a little bit. Is
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  Speaker 1: that just because it's hotter Because he's also talking to
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  Speaker 1: the boss there, You gotta wonder that probably brings a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more sweat for the bit road picks. You
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  Speaker 1: get a conversation with the boss there at midfield. Oh man,
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  Speaker 1: now we get into a quick team.
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  Speaker 2: I saw my boss here Craig Schilbauer earlier this morning,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm sweating bullets right now.
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  Speaker 3: I was gonna say that, seriously, that adds up being radio.
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  Speaker 3: It's good to see the boss over here. Drop by
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  Speaker 3: the perch here at Raynchkie Field for day two of Backers'
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  Speaker 3: training camp are covers presented by the Potawatami Sportsbook Bet
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  Speaker 3: Big Bet Bowl Bet above the rest. There's nothing you
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  Speaker 3: can bet on in training camp practices. We might get
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  Speaker 3: there with joint practices at some particular point in time.
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  Speaker 3: But Wayne, I had a friendly wager with a cohort
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  Speaker 3: and myself, who how many times would we talk about
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  Speaker 3: sky Moore throughout the process?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I would have lost if I had the over
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  Speaker 1: yesterday because I don't know that we really mentioned him
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  Speaker 1: too much outside of a little bit of what he
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  Speaker 1: could do in the return game on the offensive side.
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  Speaker 1: Might be a little interesting for number twenty three because
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  Speaker 1: you see him continuing to work in that wide receiver room.
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  Speaker 1: Bou Melton back into the wide receiver room as well,
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  Speaker 1: and there is a little bit of a run and
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  Speaker 1: a race for who's gonna grab one of those fifth
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  Speaker 1: or six spots there in.
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  Speaker 2: There exactly and and you know you mentioned bou Melton.
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  Speaker 2: Certainly sky mo are both guys now they're kind of veterans,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, in a backup capacity. But
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  Speaker 2: sky Moore's here because of his returnability. That's why he's here. However,
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  Speaker 2: Matt Lafleur this morning said, I think there's more to
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  Speaker 2: get on the offensive side of the football as well
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  Speaker 2: with sky Moore. So it'll be interesting to see how
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  Speaker 2: much I would imagine he and bou Meultain will play
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  Speaker 2: quite a bit in the preseason, I would guess to
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  Speaker 2: sort out that receiver room right receiver component to whatever
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  Speaker 2: they do.
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  Speaker 1: Because sky Moorem, you're talking about a former second round
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  Speaker 1: pick and somebody that was pretty highly lauded when he
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  Speaker 1: was coming out of Western Michigan. I really liked him
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  Speaker 1: in the draft process and some familiarity with a system
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  Speaker 1: similar because he was just in San Francisco a year ago.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't do a ton of offense, if I'm not mistaken
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  Speaker 1: a year ago. But I do think that could be
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  Speaker 1: a club in his bag. Wayne, that helps you out
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  Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more than they would have anticipated.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. And you know, again, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not quite sure the numbers with bou Melton as a
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  Speaker 2: receiver go up and down throughout his last three years.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why, because the times I've seen him,
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  Speaker 2: he can make it play. Yeah, he can make it
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  Speaker 2: play as a receiver. And I'll never forget that game
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  Speaker 2: he had at the end of the season like three
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  Speaker 2: years ago at Minnesota where he produced the only one
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  Speaker 2: hundred yard receiving game of that season for the Packers.
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  Speaker 1: The questions you could get, yeah in on a New
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  Speaker 1: Year's Eve when they toasted and celebrated in style against
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  Speaker 1: the Vikings.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Billy and I are all in the business
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  Speaker 2: of giving, and I'm going to give you guys out there,
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  Speaker 2: you can make a lot of money with your investments.
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  Speaker 2: Investments or with your group at the bar with trivia.
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  Speaker 2: You can you know who has the longest field goal
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  Speaker 2: in the history of the Green Bay Packers. And you
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  Speaker 2: know what, there is almost nobody who doesn't go to Google. Now. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The prerequistite is do not allow the person you're dealing
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  Speaker 2: with go to Google.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then let them see if they know. Let
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  Speaker 1: them say Dave Rayner, Yeah, the son of a gun.
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  Speaker 2: No, Okay, Ryan Longwell had to be come on has
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  Speaker 2: to be no, No, Lucas Hafer Sex sixty one yards
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  Speaker 2: at Arizona year ago.
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  Speaker 1: See and now you're welcome. That's what you get.
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  Speaker 2: You want to make a lot of money on that. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So if you're up there in Door County one of
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  Speaker 2: those little establishments, do a little trivia thing, put a
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  Speaker 2: little you know, skin on the on the table there
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  Speaker 2: and say, oh do you think now?
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  Speaker 1: That's what I like to hear, Wayne, because there is
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  Speaker 1: this is the middle of we're seven weeks away from
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  Speaker 1: the Packers playing a game. We're grabbing some other things
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  Speaker 1: that people are going to be able to use, not
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  Speaker 1: only just Evan Williams looks good without pads on. Some
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  Speaker 1: information that can help you at the card table or
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  Speaker 1: at the at the Door County establishment. I like a lot.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of time to be parsing through a
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  Speaker 1: lot of different things. But the fun factor of camp
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  Speaker 1: is is something that I never It doesn't get past me.
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  Speaker 1: The enjoyment of this, Wayne, I mean, there is not
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  Speaker 1: a spot available in the stands or on the rails. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Packers fans are in mid season formata.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah no, there you're out here big time. This first
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  Speaker 2: week at training camp and again we're not even in
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  Speaker 2: pads yet, so that's coming up next week and that's
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  Speaker 2: when it really gets underway. And then Family Night scrimmage
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  Speaker 2: camps off the first full week of training camp, which
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  Speaker 2: would be Friday night a week from Friday night, Family Night,
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  Speaker 2: and that's not a scrimmage, it's a practice, but nonetheless
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  Speaker 2: it kind of culminates that early part of training camp.
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  Speaker 2: And then you get into the preseason phase of training camp,
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  Speaker 2: preseason games, there'll be three weeks of that.
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  Speaker 1: That's a great point. It is kind of a that's
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  Speaker 1: a benchmark getting there to Family Night as a camp
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  Speaker 1: almost closes. Now you get into a game week and
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  Speaker 1: figuring out how guys are going to be able to
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  Speaker 1: process through that. And it's I said it just a
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  Speaker 1: minute ago, but it is wild to think two weeks
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  Speaker 1: from tonight you're gonna play a preseason game and you
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  Speaker 1: only play three of them. There was a day, a
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  Speaker 1: time and place when this league had almost two months
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  Speaker 1: of training camp and you played four to six preseason games, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: to get ready, and it's said we're shruncating it. It's
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  Speaker 1: a difficult balance because you have to be able to
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  Speaker 1: get legitimate work in, especially with the offensive line, for
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  Speaker 1: some real cohesion Wayne before you play a game, and
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  Speaker 1: instead they just don't have a ton of opportunities. It's
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  Speaker 1: pretty paramount to be able to take advantage of them
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  Speaker 1: whenever you get.
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  Speaker 2: Some of that. I agree, and no question about it.
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  Speaker 2: And I think, you know, there are some teams whose
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  Speaker 2: school of thought is never to play a starter during
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  Speaker 2: a preseason game, and that's that's the Rams, and they're
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  Speaker 2: very successful what they've done. We've seen that here in
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  Speaker 2: Green Bay. Aaron Rodgers was not a big fan of
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  Speaker 2: playing in preseason games with this offensive line, but nonetheless,
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  Speaker 2: I think, you know, the more I've seen it evolve
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  Speaker 2: with this team, and again, Matt has had a very
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  Speaker 2: young team each of the last three years, and so
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  Speaker 2: the feeling has been we need to get these guys
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  Speaker 2: on the field in a uncontrolled situation where where you
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  Speaker 2: know practice is always going to be even joint practices
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  Speaker 2: are controlled, as you well know, Bill and what they
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  Speaker 2: want to I think with some of these younger players,
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  Speaker 2: get them out there in a real game situation where
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  Speaker 2: we're not controlling the shots, we're not calling it. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you've got to read and react.
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  Speaker 1: There's only so much that live bullets throw a totally
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  Speaker 1: different wrinkle on the field, and we'll see some more
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  Speaker 1: of those. We'll see a couple of team periods starting
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  Speaker 1: up here momentarily as they wrap up some special teams drills.
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  Speaker 1: Wayne Lairvie, Voice of the Green Bay Packers. To my right,
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  Speaker 1: I'm Billy Schmid. It is Training Camp Live, presented by
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  Speaker 1: the Potawadamey Sports Book. We'll take quick time out as
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  Speaker 1: we begin here Day number two. Potentially a little longer
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  Speaker 1: excursion on the field for the Packers than yesterday. They
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  Speaker 1: were done just after twelve o'clock yesterday. I assume it'll
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: be a tick longer here today as we continue the
• 15:43
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• 15:54
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• 16:38
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• 16:42
  Speaker 1: very nice ice cold refreshments, some beautiful food, and hopefully
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: winning some plays, making some plays. Out Here are the
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: first team offensive players for the Green Bay Packers, Jordan
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Love coordinating it and Marshawn Lloyd behind him. Wayne a
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: lot of reps for number thirty two, and just to
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: see him back here day after day. We talk about it,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: and some people would make it seem like it's a mockery.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: I think it's just a fact of the matter. It
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: is good to see him be able to continue to
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: be on the field. Now, once we get in pads
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: and be able to withstand that, it seems like the
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: only real question is Marshaon Lloyd runs off to the
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: right side.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: And it's a question. It's a legitimate question because he's
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: had his injury issues. But hopefully he's beyond that and
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: hopefully he can have a great season for the Packers.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: I know they're really excited Billy about, as we've talked
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: many times here, the dimension of explosiveness he can bring
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: to the running back position. And if he's that effective,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: he can give Josh Jacobs a certain amount of time,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: he can give him some rest during games. He can certainly,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: you know, I think Josh Jacobs could actually is actually
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: at a point in his career where we might be
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: more effective with less carries. Yeah, less touches than with more.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: I agree with you and Wayne. You've seen it with
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: some of the best backs in football. There's a every
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: other year component to that position right where you can
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: be really really good one year. And even Sae Kwon
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Barkley this past year, his his numbers were far and
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: away down from the almost MVP year he had a
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: year ago. Some of it can be understandable. Some of
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: it just workload. And you work that much and carry
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: the ball that much, it's hard to be able to
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: bounce back. I'm fascinated to see how much Pierre Strong,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: who also was in the mix and just had a
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: catch right there. You've mentioned him a couple of different times.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: How much the work in the preseason leads to some
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: potential reps that we get for Strong during the regular season.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: And I think he's making this team.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: I do too, I've liked him. He look good in
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: the OTAs in mini camp. To me, of course, you've
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: got to wait for the pads as we keep saying,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: to come on here in training camp. But then I
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: think he's going to get a lot of run of
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: the preseason games because they really want to know what
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: they have in this kid. He's got some experience. He's
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: been with the New England Patriots. This is a kid
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: who I think can really feel a key role in
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: this running back.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Now as we're we're watching some some run period here
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: for the Packers as they moved the football down the
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: field a little bit in this team portion of camp.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Number sixty four Jonathan Ford, now a different number in
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: his first stint with the Packers, they they're kind of
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: in need wayne of a run stuffing defensive tackle, and
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: last year they bring in his year Stackhouse as well
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: as Warren Brinson, both from Georgia. Stackhouse and Camp looked really,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: really good. I think once we got to some games
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: some of it was left something to be desired. Ford's
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: an interesting case because it feels like it would be
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: one of those two for that first and second down
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: run stuffing position.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. Billy Jordan Riley, who's in
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: nose tackle type six five three thirty eight, is injured
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: and on the He's on the injured list right now.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Achilles last December. He's still coming back from that. He's
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: probably not going to figure in DeVante Why Jay Von
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Hargrave are two guys who can kind of pushed the
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: pocket from within in terms of a pass rush, and
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: they could certainly do a job against the run as well.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Chris McClellan is more along the line of Wyatt and Hardgrave.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Stackhouse is a solid nose and Ford is a guy
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: on the nose bill that you're gonna see a lot
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: of in preseason games because again there's a guy that
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: for one last time they want to get a look
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: at it. Can he be a guy who could be
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: play a role in the rotation up front to stop
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: the run on early downs.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: And now we hit Chris McClellan in that interior on
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: the defensive line getting a play call in from Zayir Franklin,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: who yesterday made one of the bigger plays and one
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: of the more noteworthy ones. The aforementioned Marshawn Lloyd caught
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: a ball out of the backfield and Franklin just clean
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: stripped him and was able to force a turnover. They
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: just didn't have enough turnovers a year ago. He's right
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: now in the middle of a defense where he's kind
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: of the main and only inside backer with more of
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: a nickel dime look. I think that's something that a
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: lot of fans were questioning as Javon Buller with a
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: beautiful poke out from yeah, if that was sky Moore,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: to see how much in pass coverage they would stress
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: your Franklin.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: And also on that play Billy roaring around the right
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: end was Edgerrin Cooper at the quarterback very nearly got there.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: I want to see more of that. I personally, just
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: as a fan just watching him play, I'd like to
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: see him make more plays at the quarterback and the
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: offensive backfield, and I think Jonathan Gannon certainly will have
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: that as part of his scheme. There's no doubt in
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: my mind about that. We may see a little more
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: of that. Javon Bullard. The only thing he is such
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: a good player, Billy. The only thing you're looking for,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: the only area where he could grow a little bit takeaways. Takeaways,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: that's the area, and I think he will. But he
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: is an excellent slot corner and he's got safety. Safety
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: probably by trade originally, but this is a kid that's
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: what you're looking for in the slot now because teams
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: are going to more as we talked yes of a
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: physical attack. They're running the football more in the National
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Football League, They're they're getting physical offensively, and you need
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: a third safety on the field. Maybe in that slot
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: is more appropriate today than it was five to ten
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: years ago.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Man and Wayne, his attitude is everything right, His attitude
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: towards the game and its competitiveness, his physicality, I'm all
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: about it, and his messaging after last year of trying
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: to close games and how important it is for them
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: to be able to unlock that part of their game.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: He seems like the kind of guy that might be
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: one of the more unsung leaders of the team. Maybe
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a stretch, but I don't think so.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: That kind of attitude is the kind of player that
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: you want in your Locke.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: No, I can't agree with you more. Evan Williams is
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: another guy. After the playoff loss in Chicago last year,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: he was very blunt with his comments that we got
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: to learn how to win these games. And you know,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: you don't find players saying that very often, but those
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: are two kids who are everything you want in a
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: football player. Evan Williams, Javon Bullard. They that's what kind
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: of excites me about this team. They have guys that
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: you know, you just sit there. These are football players.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: This is what you want on your.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Team, just to have those kind of young players that
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: can you know, grow into hopefully the leaders of the
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: team of save. On Williams takes one around the right
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: side and Lucas Vans is quickly there to chase him down.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, Lucas was so impressive in the OTAs
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: of mini camp and we all said, well, yeah, come on,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: it's hard to judge defensive players who unless they're cornerbacks
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: and safeties and are out on the perimeter covering wide receivers.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: It's hard to see to get much of a feel,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: but Lucas van Ness was in the offensive backfield all
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: of May and June and hopefully that translates when they
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: put the pads on him. This kid is just I mean,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: he's just aching to reach his potent, and his potential
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: is pretty high.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: And off to the left side we had to catch
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: over here from number four. Drake Dabney. What a great name.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: That's a movie. That's your name, Drake Dabney. Well and
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: came from Southland, Texas. So you know, football is all
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: they're talking about in the Dabney household. Former SMU Mustang.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: There's some there's a lot of opportunity, a tight end.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: We just mentioned it earlier, sadly with Luke Musgrave in
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: his unavailability early on in camp, and it potentially might
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: be a little longer lasting. John Fitzpatrick's in there right now.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: I think you kind of know what you got with
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: John Fitzpatrick from a year ago. Was it great? Probably not,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: but it definitely could be a lot worse as the
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: ball gets poked out there, I don't know. Who poked
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: that one out late in the process ended up scooping
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: it up by like those sticky hands. But you know,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Luke Leche is in that young group of guys that
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: are kind of an unknown quantity. I think Josh Wiley's
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: on the team in his spot's probably safe, but there
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: may be four or five guys for that last tight
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: end spot. I think Dabney's right there in the middle
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: of h.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Dabney Messiah Swinson, who's an excellent blocker six seven,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: two sixty. I mean, that's the kind of guy in
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: the run game you want. Luke Lasche is a guy,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: another blocking tight end who maybe gives you a little
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: bit more in the passing game. Wiley, you mentioned him.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: They like him a lot. Activated late in the season
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: last year, So there are a number of opportunities for
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: guys in that tight end corps behind Tucker Kraft, and
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: we just hope Luke Mustrave can get back on the
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: field because I think he can. Added to mention that
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: outside of Tucker, the other guys don't have.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: I totally agree with you, And there's just there's an
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: athletics standpoint, there some untapped potential that you'd love to
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: be able to get to Matthew Golden with a couple
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: of good grabs in this early portion, early team portion,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: moving the football down the field from our right to
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: left and Golden around the sticks. Wayne. He was a
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: really good player in that role early in the year.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: It dissipated in the middle of the year. I think
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: it's almost slept on with Golden. His speed jumps off
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: the page rightfully, so j Michael Startivan your boy. Yeah,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: good grab and finds himself in a lot of open area.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: But I think the precise route running from Golden hopefully
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: from year one to year two gets better. But it
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: was a little bit of a sneaky trait that he
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: had a year ago.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I think he got dinged up a
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: little bit, nothing major, but just enough to kind of
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: take him out for a week or so. And folks,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: with a rookie, especially a rookie wide receiver, it's hard
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: enough to make an impact as a wide receiver as
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: a rookie in these West Coast offenses. But when you
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: start missing time either a training camp and forget it.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: If you miss time a training camp, you're buried. But
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: even during the regular season, it could be hard to
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: overcome that.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: One guy we have not talked about and I'm seeing
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: right here getting some instruction on the defensive line is
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Carl Brooks and pretty impressive career that he's carved out.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: And Wayne, he's gonna get counted upon. He seemingly hasn't
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: gotten talked about much at all, but his steadiness, I
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: think is just in there. He's a a steady force.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: He came on later into the year, I thought, but
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: he's gonna be a part of this thing. And he's
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: still running with the ones, no doubt about it.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: With Javon Hargrave, he had three and a half sacks
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. Last year, limited action at sixteen
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: game seven starts, but you're right, he's a guy solid
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: on that line. Warren Brinson's another and they're probably gonna
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: put Warren maybe a nose tackle, maybe the extra tackle
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: on that defensive line. We'll see, But you know, there's
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: some possibilities here. As the team moves far away from us,
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: down to the left side of the field.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: This is where the this is where the big Banknock
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: energy Wanee hopefully comes in handy. As I got chastised
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: a little bit earlier today on the Huddle, which is
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: found on these same stations five to eight am on
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio Wisconsin, that I didn't have enough eyes
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: on some of the play calls and the energy that
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: was being exuded by defensive coordinator Jonathan Gannon on day one.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: But it's just we all have different strokes for different folks.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Not everybody, as I made mention, can be Jeff Half
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: whose face got you know, read not from sunburn, from
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: just getting all involved throughout. But there has been a
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: really sharp pacing to the defense and even just the
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: substitutions on the first couple of days.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: And people said, well, you know, it looked like the
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: defense may have been a little behind the offense yesterday.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: That very well could be, but the defenses installing a
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: new a whole new process, so there's they're probably gonna
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: be a little bit behind in the early going. But
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: I agree, And you know, the thing that Jonathan Gannon does,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: and I know Matt Lafleur is excited about it, was
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: talking about it this morning, and that the way they
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: disguise the different things they're going to do, the pass rush,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: the coverage in the secondary, that type of thing that's
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: going to be interesting to watch.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: As this one rips down the field and just missing
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: our boy Dabney with Xavier McKinney all over on the coverage,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: with the first team offense back in there. Now, the
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: first team offensive line does not include Aaron Banks today.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: He is he is down here today, I'm not sure.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Probably a little veteran in rest day as they get
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: them so closer into pats. But Anthony Belton there at
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: right guard. You made mention Wayne of the body difference
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: that he had this year compared to last, and it
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: is evident he looks felt and looks like he is
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: locking up right there at right guard.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: I agree, and I think he built his body for
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: that position this year. People talk about, well, that's an
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: open competition. I'm not so sure. I think Anthony gained
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: some great experience last year. He came back ready to
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: play this position this year. I've talked to him. I
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: think he's gonna be I think he's gonna be fine.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: It right at the right guard spot. Christian Watson's shaking open.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: You know the thing that you got to like about
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: what we talked about it for those who weren't with
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: us yesterday. The thing about Watson and golden. When you
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: see their speed and you understand their speed, you think,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: you know, these guys are just gonna fly by guy. No,
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: they run the full route treat which I think makes
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: them incredibly dangerous.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Yes, and when Watson can compare that with the will
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: and physicality in the blocking standpoint, I think there's another
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Hopefully just availability unlocks another gear for Christian Watson. But
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: the like you just mentioned, the full route tree on
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: top of the threat that you can run or pass
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: in his direction is a tough thing for defense is
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: to have to handle his Lucas van Ness is out
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: there covering Josh Jacobs, the first team offense going up
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: against a first team defensive Look here on the far
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: side of the field, Day two of Packers' training camp
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: into the team portion. Brenton Cox out there as well
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: with the defensive ends and Tyron Hopper and Isaam mc duffy.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: You haven't really mentioned it. Isaam mcduffy locks himself in
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: with a contract extension.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Wayne.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: There's there's something to just having good glue guys and
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: good players that fit into their role and know their role.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Duffy just seems like a perfect role player in an
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: NFL defense that's learning a new scheme.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, no question about it. And you know, Matt
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: called him one of the glue pieces on that defense
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: and special teams as well. There's Jayden Reed catching a
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: pass under the coverage of Brandon Seesay.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: And sis right there to give a fun say right there, Pads,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: No doubt this kid is.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: And we talked about se Say yesterday. He was one
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: of the best run stopping cornerbacks in major college football
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: a year ago. So I think that kid's got a
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: chance to start right away. I really do, because he can.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: He can not only give you support against the run
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: and is a good tackler, but he also has obviously
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: coverage ability.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: And I mean just just inside of twenty one.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Right, I mean, like, yeah, he just turned twenty one, just.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Turned twenty one. So he's just able to celebrate with
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: you after big wins, which is a good thing for
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: the young and to have. But over on the far side,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: you have the first pick of the Packers in twenty
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: five and twenty six going head to head and Golden
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: and Cisa ball goes right over to Golden and Sisay
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: is a little tick that he wasn't there quick enough,
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  Speaker 1: but a great turnaround, beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: Timing to Golden, great route, great rout by Golden, especially
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: at the end of that route he turned cornerback around
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: and the ball was right there. You know, people are
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: wondering about the Packers offense. If you'll look at the
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: numbers overall last year, Billy, they would tell you middle
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  Speaker 2: of the pack, I mean, sixteenth and scoring, fifteenth in yards,
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  Speaker 2: fifteenth on the ground, seventeenth through the air. But I
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  Speaker 2: think this offense has a lot more to get. I
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  Speaker 2: think they're going to be top ten, solid top ten
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  Speaker 2: in all of those categories this coming season if things
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  Speaker 2: work out.
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  Speaker 1: It's one of the reasons why as our presenting sponsored
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  Speaker 1: the Potawatami Sportsbook, that's one of the reasons why I
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: think it's plus two twenty five to win the NFC
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  Speaker 1: North might be one of my favorite investments on the board. Now,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: granted some people would say you might be a little
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: bit of a homer. Did I also have that investment
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: a year ago?
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  Speaker 2: Sure?
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  Speaker 1: Did I feel really really good about that investment in
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: the middle of the year, Yeah, Did I potentially think
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: that we were just going to double down and run
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: through and maybe have that money spent? Absolutely? That is
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: why it is an eighteen week, seventeen game season. Wan
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: gott to finish just like we talked about last year
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: is the model of the offseason, finishing games, finishing seasons absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: and finishing a team portion the Green Bay Packers will
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: do here with their second unit in Tyrod Taylor at
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: the helm on the quarterback spot. Wayne Larvy, Voice of
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  Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. To my right, I'm Bill Schmidt.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for streaming us on YouTube, Facebook and acts always
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  Speaker 1: We're back after this with more of Day two of
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Packers training camp. Thanks for joining us and making us
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: maybe your lunch date on this beautiful Thursday Thursday in
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: the good Land. I'm Bill Schmid, host the Packers OT
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: alongside the Hall of Fame Voice of the Green Bay Packers,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Wayne Laravi. Now soon to be celebrating the Packers' first
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: regular season dagger. Wayne, have you dusted off the dagger
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: in preparation for the twenty times?
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: I gotta shake off some rust. I mean, that's what
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: the preseason's all about. Billy. By the way, we're like
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: a couple of pigeons on the perch here watching practice
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: and taking handouts to them or whatever we can get them.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm never.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Saying our man will down, here's anyus water, but we'll
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: take something more, you know.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, especially if there's something stiffer.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: If you want a little bits.
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  Speaker 1: And people have said that once it's hot, the brown
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: stuff doesn't taste as good. I say, oh, contrary, I
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: think they always tastes solid.
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  Speaker 2: For medicinal purposes only.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Yes, correct. Correct emotional support is generally where it goes
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: to Wayne. Some highlights of that early team portion courtesy
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  Speaker 1: of our friends over there on the other side, sweating
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  Speaker 1: on the Packers beat. Mike Spofford put it with a
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  Speaker 1: Zavier McKinney with a diving deflection over the middle. That
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: was the ball intended for Drake Dabney that we mentioned.
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  Speaker 1: But a couple of quick connections to Christian Watson as
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: well as Matthew Golden and a shallow completion to jayde
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: and reed against Brandon Ceesay. Then Matthew Golden with the
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: stop that we had talked about against, so they went
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: right at him twice. And I like the fact of
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: trying to put the rookie into a pressure cooker.
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  Speaker 2: Early.
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  Speaker 1: I guess your best two wide receivers. If you're gonna
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: be blaming this level, this is what it's gonna look.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what, Brandon did not look out of
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: place on the situation at all. Jordan Love has talked
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: about that as well. Jordan talks about, well, you know,
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: he'll test guys on the defensive side. He'll also test
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  Speaker 2: his guys. He'll make a throw. And we talked about
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  Speaker 2: this in the past, Billy. You know, Rogers used to
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: do this all the time. He throw a couple of
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: picks and the media would go, oh, Rogers throwing inners. No,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: they're trying things here. They're trying to see, Okay, can
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: eighty seven? Can he go up and get the ball
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  Speaker 2: in press coverage? You know, contested? Can he make the
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: contested catch that kind of thing. I'm gonna throw him
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  Speaker 2: this ball. I probably wouldn't do it if it was
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  Speaker 2: a regular season game, but I'm gonna do it now
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: to see what I've got here in this guy. And
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: they do the same thing with defensive players too. I mean,
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: they want to see Brandon Seesay cover the top two
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: receivers on the squad. Yeah, if he can cover them,
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  Speaker 2: he's probably got a pretty good chance of covering other
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: receivers around the league, and we're gonna see a lot
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  Speaker 2: of good ones starting in Minnesota, right.
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  Speaker 1: That's the thing. I mean, as much as you can
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: look at the schedule and talked about the first couple
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: of days, first couple of games yesterday a little bit,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: you can be somewhat dismissive of it. The one place
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: you can't is at the wide receiver position. All of
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: those teams that you're gonna face early on are going
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: to be legit offenses that are going to pose tough
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: threats on the outside, justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison number one,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Then you go into week number two,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: you're taking on one of the better wide receivers in
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: football in Garrett Wilson, and a couple of days later
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: when you come here Drake London coming off one of
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: the better seasons around as well, So you get tested
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  Speaker 1: at that spot quickly, early and often. Also, our friend
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Wes Hodquitz atpackers dot Com mentioned that Matt Lafleur wanted
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: edge rushers working on the edges. Lucas van Me certainly
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: did that against Jordan Morgan West writes Xavier as Zavier
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: McKinney as he breaks up to play there, And Matt
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: did talk about that today with a little Curtnis Wayne
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  Speaker 1: of when we're working on edge rushes, we want to
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: work on the edge of guys who don't want to
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: run right through them full rush without pads on. That's
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: putting your offensive line in a precarious situation with no
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: pads on in a bull rush setting. But it also
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: forces you to kind of work some other things.
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  Speaker 2: That the side rushers are No, it really does. And
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: it's a game of angles, especially that pass rush of dance.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: It goes on the blocking and the pass rushing. It's
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: a game of angles and getting leverage, angles and leverage,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: and that's what it's all about. Yeah, so hey, I
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: understand where Matt is on this. They don't have pads
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: on yet, you know, No, the bull rush is what
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: are you accomplishing anyway besides maybe getting somebody hurt without
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: heads on. So yeah, save that stuff for next week.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Then you might have time.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, at that point you might have to be the
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  Speaker 1: guy walking across the street back to the locker room
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: without your shoes on. Because we saw that last year
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: with too much contact in the non contact the kicking game,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: We're probably not going to see a ton more here today. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I do know Matt Lafleur mentioned that they were working
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: on some things for somebody to be able to snap
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: in the missing Matt Orzick category. What do you think
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: in whyane the excitement or the nervousness, because right away,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna get We're gonna get questions about
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Jordan Love and the offense. But I think it was
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: the third question asked to me by a friend yesterday, Well,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: how did the kickers look? Yeah, it didn't kick, But
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: there's gonna be a slow build up to that competition,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: which is gonna be heating up here pretty much.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, no question. And also I like the way, and
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: we saw this in the spring cam Acord runs. His
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: practice is a little bit different than Richie Bisaccia. I
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: like what he's doing. There's a lot of strategy behind
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: what they're doing out there, and and and the fundamentals
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: are working on right now. So but you know we've Hey, listen, folks,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy gave special teams a lot of time in practice.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Matt Lafleora does it. You know, we've seen this and
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: and it's one thing to give these players a lot
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: of time and practice and for these coaches to get
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: it together. It's another thing once the regular season hits.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: And where the Packers were better on special teams over
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: the last three years or so was I felt they
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: found a punter and maybe the best punter in the
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: league are one of them, all right, and Daniel Wheelan.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: They are struggling to find a kicker and they're struggling
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: to find a return game. But the coverage units have
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: been better. They have actually, no question been better. Let's
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: give credit where credit is due. Sky More is going
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: to be a I would think sky Moore was brought
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: here to correct the return game situation. You need a
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: guy at that position. Really, it's not just about scheme
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: and that type of thing. Kick returners are a certain breed.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: They are a special breed. Some can do it, most can't. Okay,
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: we're going to see We're gonna see a guy who
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: has proven that he can do it on this level
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: in sky Moore. And what can he bring to these
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: special teams Because if they have a return game they
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: didn't last year, But if they have a return game.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: I think that's going to put the offense in a
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: much better position, and you know that well field position
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  Speaker 2: is everything.
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  Speaker 1: Man, They've had a negative in the return game for
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  Speaker 1: a majority of the last five years. I think of
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: when Tyler Swerven Irvin got a fifteen yard punt return
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: and they became a positive punt return yardage, Deamon, what
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: was that like week twelve of the year. It's it's
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: you're you're desperate to get something more out of that position.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: I would struggle to think they don't. And you're right
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: on wheeland where he has become and I think last
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: year became a little bit of a threat at certain
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: spots to how are you going to be able to
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: handle and what is your decision making process going to
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: be when you know you're gonna be able to pin
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  Speaker 1: somebody back?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. He's a very talented kid. He led
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: the league folks in punting last year in gross punting,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: and why well, net punting is important. Yeah, I get
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: that he was at fourth and net punting, But the
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: key here is I don't think I can't remember the
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: last time a cold weather kicker led the league in
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: gross punty. That's yeah, I just I'm sure it's happened,
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  Speaker 2: but I can't remember the last time it's happen. It
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  Speaker 2: those that that title usually goes to guys kicking indoors.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and and we've seen it. We've fallen victim to
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: the JK. Scotts of the world where you can be really,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: really good when the weather is warm, and then when
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: he cools down. Yeah, that ball is just not gonna
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  Speaker 1: fly nearly the same way. Uh, there's some other things
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: to be able to pick up here at practice. We
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: just had a cool moment with Aaron Banks working one
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: on one which Jagger Burton. Now both are out. It's
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: a load management day for Aaron Banks, a little veteran
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: day and he's working with Jaggar Burton who checked out yesterday.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: But both could be uh, could be players and play
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: significant roles for the Packers coming up here. Uh this season.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Ball goes off a Christian Watson's hands.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, pass behind him a little bit. Yeah, tough catch
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  Speaker 2: would have been.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, would have been a spectacular one to be able
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: to make. Would have been a very very tough ball.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Had some heat on it too, that had teeth.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Jordan Love throws one of the tighter spirals you see
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL. To good point, Wayne, he doesn't get
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: enough credit for the fastball though.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he can.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Get on you very very quickly. Oh yeah, with that
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: one first team defense in there, and one of our
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: guys to spotlight throughout camp has been Brenton Cox. He's
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: over there right now in with the first team defense,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: going opposite Lucas van Ness. Cox could really be a
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: producer for you as Matthew Golden finds a lot of
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: green grass there against that zone defense. Could play a
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: significant role for you on the pass rush side because
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: he's gotten home and van Ness and recapping just that
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: first team period as we get into the second one,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: really really good against the run leverage wise in that
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: first period.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: He really, Yeah he is. He's you know, I think
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: he's an underrated run defender, right. He certainly can set
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: the edge and you know he's strong enough. They don't
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: call him Hercules for nothing. Sure, Yes, he's strong enough
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: to set the edge against the run, and that's what
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: you want in that edge rusher. Micah Parsons another guy.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Nobody talks about the fact that he's very good against
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: the run, but his pass rushing prowess overwhelms that or
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: overshadows that aspect of his game.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Eight seven seven, seven, nine four one nine seven to
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: three can be the phone number to reach and get
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: in touch with the show as well, And we had
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: a couple of comments on the YouTube page as well,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: asking us will Tucker starting the season that's been pretty
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: locked in Wisconsin, sports fanatica commenting that one in now
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Kraft not back out here yet. He had mentioned it
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: yesterday after practice when Goody and Matt mentioned it as well.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: He's gonna be ready sooner rather than later. I also
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: think whyne some of that might coincide with a name
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: hitting a piece of paper that makes him a rather
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: wealthy man at some point in reason.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: I think, so that's the last, from what I can tell,
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: one of the last shoes to drop in the contract situation.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: They've got to get that done. It's gonna be a
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: big one, and it takes time on big contracts, it
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: really does. But there's every indication he's going to be
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: here long term, and he's one of their building blocks.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: They've got a bunch of them they've signed, and so
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: but yeah, you know, the concern I think the people
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: outside of the Packers organization have more so than inside
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: the organization is the Packers a lot of their stars
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: are coming back from injury, and yeah, there's a certain question.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: You don't know how that's going to go with everybody,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: but everyone's different. But you know, I'm really confident these
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: guys will come back and they'll be good. They'll be
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: good to go.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: One of my one of my favorite parts of training
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: camp is finding the different gear that gets busted out.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: It's individual that just walked by us. Wayne had one
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: of the cooler shirts. I've seen the Wheel of Fortune
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: board and said, would any Packer fan like to guess
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: the puzzle? And it had pieces that spelled out bear
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: still suck creative when the merch game, that's that's well
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: well done, Starlin. We have the best talent on D.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: But how do we turn it around and start forcing
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: turnovers like we used to?
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Wayne?
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: If there was a special recipe to be able to
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: forcing turnovers, every team would be doing it.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: I also think some of it is the playmak Us
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: players making big time players for Savon Williams Squeeze a
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: couple a year ago, but Zavira McKinney was close. Just
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: needs to be able to lock some of those in.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know that there's a magic potion for that.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Well, X had what eight interceptions a year before, and
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: he had what a couple last year thereabouts, But he
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: also led the league unofficially yes correct apparently and dropped interception.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: So you know, I think it's just a lot of
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: times to bounce of the ball, folks on turnovers, and
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: we've talked about that on takeaways, and hopefully the bounce
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: of the ball will go the Packers way more this year.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor coordinating the Packers offense here with the second
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: group going up against the second defense, and we'll get
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: into our second hour of day number two. Training Camp
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Live continues momentarily after a pier strong run and we're
• 45:46
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