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Did StreamYard Just Screw Every Creator With an 88% Price Hike? · Classic Metal Show

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  SPEAKER_00: Hey, this is Mr. Bonesaw and you are watching CMS TV.
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  SPEAKER_02: It is your classic metal show right here on theclassicmetalshow.com.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_02: It is the return of the band Victory with a brand new tune there called Virtual Sin.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_02: And that one going out by request to Paul Miles.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_02: And just before that,
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  SPEAKER_02: for Milo,
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  SPEAKER_02: we heard a song,
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_02: which I know you're a big Exodus fan, with Lost Dismissed, a hate crimer.
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  SPEAKER_02: And, uh,
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  SPEAKER_02: interesting story behind that song,
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  SPEAKER_02: I guess, um, some, uh,
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  SPEAKER_02: fan basically got arrested for posting the lyrics of that song on his Facebook page.
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  SPEAKER_02: Were you aware of that?
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  SPEAKER_01: I remember that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that's kind of a bizarre thing, but, uh, That one going up by request to Milo.
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  SPEAKER_02: And we heard something that I've never heard before.
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  SPEAKER_02: T-Cuzbra down there in Cajun country.
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  SPEAKER_02: Always turning us on to some bands that he listens to.
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  SPEAKER_02: He listens to a lot of music.
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  SPEAKER_02: But this was a band out of Austin, Texas called Dixie Witch with Let It Roll.
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  SPEAKER_02: And what else did we play there?
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  SPEAKER_02: Grim Reaper for Ben Benjamin.
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  SPEAKER_02: See you in hell.
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  SPEAKER_02: Going out as a long distance dedication to Sal.
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  SPEAKER_02: And we heard Coven there for Demon with Iron Dick.
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  SPEAKER_02: Iron Dick.
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  SPEAKER_02: Iron Dick.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Belongs to Iron Man.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's right.
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  SPEAKER_02: Iron Man with the Iron Dick.
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  SPEAKER_02: Iron Dick.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_02: So did you get all your whatever you had to do over there, get that done?
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_01: I did.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_01: There's new steps involved because of the world constantly changing, so we have to adapt.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you're aware of this even or not,
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  SPEAKER_01: but we have changes coming up,
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  SPEAKER_01: technological changes all over the place,
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  SPEAKER_01: which I know is going to make people's heads hurt.
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  SPEAKER_01: But the big change,
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  SPEAKER_01: the immediate change,
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  SPEAKER_01: we have an immediate change,
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  SPEAKER_01: and then we have a coming up,
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  SPEAKER_01: not soon,
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  SPEAKER_01: but Shortly thing,
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  SPEAKER_01: coming up in media,
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you were aware or not, but Rumble was banned in a few countries.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know because of their
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  SPEAKER_01: right-leaning policies and their content creators are hateful.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, of course, that affects some of our fans.
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  SPEAKER_03: Sure, of course.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like Phil Luz is banned in France.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, that's why you got to get a VPN.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, but now they're putting,
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  SPEAKER_01: like, in Brazil, if you get caught using a VPN in Brazil, it's an $8,000 fine.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, look at that.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, they're really cracking down on free speech in Brazil.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we have fans in Brazil, too.
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  SPEAKER_01: So what I did was, I mean, Rumble's still our home.
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  SPEAKER_01: And let's be clear about that.
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  SPEAKER_01: I ain't changed from Rumble.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love Rumble.
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  SPEAKER_03: But to make sure everybody gets the show,
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  SPEAKER_03: now what I'm doing on the CMS page,
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  SPEAKER_03: on the CMSPN website,
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  SPEAKER_03: is I'm doing all of the videos on our local,
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  SPEAKER_03: like the posting
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  SPEAKER_01: of the videos,
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  SPEAKER_01: instead of posting the Rumble videos,
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm posting from our server.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: Our direct server, so that...
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  SPEAKER_03: the odds of the french government coming after the cmspn are very unlikely
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  SPEAKER_03: so you know I mean we're a long way down before they get to that
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  SPEAKER_03: so I I started posting those up there so that so the guys like phil
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  SPEAKER_03: and um our guy rodrigo that emailed me from brazil and said that he couldn't see
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  SPEAKER_03: the show anymore you know that so that they can see the show
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_03: but it creates extra steps In between,
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  SPEAKER_03: because now I have to upload it immediately,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know, so that I can put it onto the webpage for the scheduling.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's just a, that's that thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then the other thing, this is a little longer term.
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  SPEAKER_01: You may not like this.
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  SPEAKER_01: I can't believe I'm saying this,
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  SPEAKER_01: but it looks like we're going to be getting rid of StreamYard
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  SPEAKER_01: after this current contract is up.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: They just announced this week.
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  SPEAKER_01: An 88% cost raise.
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  SPEAKER_01: Why is that?
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  SPEAKER_01: Because they sold to another company.
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  SPEAKER_03: The original owners sold to another company that immediately went in and said, fuck you.
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  SPEAKER_03: And they raised all the prices on everything.
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  SPEAKER_03: 88%.
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  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_02: That almost doubled the cost.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So...
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  SPEAKER_01: We're okay for now because we just renewed and we renewed for a year.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we're good for now unless they go retro.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't even know if legally they could say, well,
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  SPEAKER_03: that only covers six months or
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  SPEAKER_01: whatever.
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  SPEAKER_01: But needless to say, we are not going to pay double what
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  SPEAKER_03: we pay now.
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  SPEAKER_03: We already pay for a premium plan.
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  SPEAKER_03: Double what we pay now would be $1,000 a year.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's a lot, man.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Especially when you can go to, with work, and again, it all starts with the work.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, I can build something on OBS.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I can build something on OBS and we can stream to our shit and to Rumble from OBS.
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  SPEAKER_03: But I got to build all these screens,
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  SPEAKER_03: all these fun screens,
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  SPEAKER_03: like, you know, changing from this to this and the backgrounds and all that stuff.
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  SPEAKER_03: I got to build that out and then I got to build a way...
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  SPEAKER_03: For you to look at,
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  SPEAKER_03: for you to connect and be able to see me showing videos that will be different
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  SPEAKER_03: than what the audience sees.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: Because it doesn't work quite the same way.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I started that.
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  SPEAKER_03: I started the process of that on Friday, yesterday, when I was made aware of this price hike.
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  SPEAKER_03: I started researching and I started messing around with OBS
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_03: and I started Installing plugins and making sure what works with Mac.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_03: That's all another thing, this Mac thing.
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  SPEAKER_03: Not everything works with the Mac,
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  SPEAKER_03: but this Mac is so fucking powerful that I cannot not use it for streaming.
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  SPEAKER_03: And the weird thing is the other shows I can get away
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  SPEAKER_03: with just using like Rumble Studio because they're one-offs.
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  SPEAKER_03: But for me and you where we do six different episodes or five different episodes
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  SPEAKER_03: in rapid fire, I got to set it up a certain way.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I'm addressing that again.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's not an immediate thing,
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  SPEAKER_03: but we are going to have to,
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  SPEAKER_03: I think, unless you want to spend that money, but I don't want to spend that money.
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  SPEAKER_03: Not when I can build something else.
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  SPEAKER_02: I know there's other platforms out there.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And again, that's what's great about the...
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  SPEAKER_02: What's the word I'm looking for?
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  SPEAKER_02: The competitive culture out there is going to come up with a similar thing and try
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  SPEAKER_02: to improve, make it better.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, and there
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  SPEAKER_03: are others out there.
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  SPEAKER_03: There's Emus and there's Restream and,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: there's other platforms that are out there that cost the same,
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  SPEAKER_03: the same as the old cost of it.
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  SPEAKER_03: But will they adjust if StreamYard adjusts or will they watch and see
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  SPEAKER_03: the mass exodus and just scoop up the users?
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  SPEAKER_03: Because I know I must have had 20 people that reached out to me on Friday
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  SPEAKER_03: and were like, dude, where do we go now that we're leaving?
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  SPEAKER_03: They were already at the top end of their price point.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: So they were like, where do we go?
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  SPEAKER_03: And I was like, well, we're going to have to figure that out.
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  SPEAKER_03: But for us,
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  SPEAKER_03: for this show,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know me, I take these kind of things as an opportunity to make the show better.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I will make it better with designing everything the way I...
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  SPEAKER_03: Because while I love StreamYard and it's easy,
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't like the look of some things.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't especially like the look of what you're looking at right now on the screen.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it looks okay, but it's kind of plain.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'd like to have some cool shit on it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Some cooler shit than a light going behind us or whatever that is.
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  SPEAKER_01: But, you know, it is what it is.
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  SPEAKER_01: I take it as a challenge.
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  SPEAKER_01: I am a tech at heart.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I will make it better.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's just, man, what a punch in the dick, huh?
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, goddamn, dude.
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  SPEAKER_01: Double the price?
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  SPEAKER_01: How do you double your price of anything in one hit?
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  SPEAKER_01: That's really shitty.
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  SPEAKER_01: Don't you think?
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, unless they were losing money and they're trying to make up for lost revenues
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  SPEAKER_02: or something.
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  SPEAKER_02: Who knows?
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  SPEAKER_01: It's a new company.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's a brand new company that just bought it from the old guys.
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  SPEAKER_01: And from what I read,
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_01: I was reading about it,
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  SPEAKER_01: they did the same thing with another company that they bought as well.
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  SPEAKER_01: And how'd that work out?
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_03: It worked out terrible.
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  SPEAKER_03: They bought, and I was a subscriber to this thing too, and I canceled it.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_03: They bought Evernote, which is a note-taking program.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_03: If you're a Microsoft people, anybody that has Microsoft, you might be familiar with OneNote.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_03: Think of it as, I don't know, like Post-it Notes.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_03: You know how a lot of people in the office or whatever,
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_03: they'll line the bottom of their monitor with like 50 Post-it Notes.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_03: Right, right.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_03: Tell them, hey, don't forget to call Bill and do this and don't forget 12 o'clock tomorrow.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_03: They use Post-it Notes.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_03: Well, there's a digital equivalent of it out there and that is called Well,
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_03: there's OneNote and there's Evernote.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I used to use Evernote.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was a really good program.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_01: And I paid for it, but then they fucking bought it and jacked the price up to twice.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_01: And then I was like, fuck that.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_03: I'll just use Google Keep, which I get for nothing.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_03: I think I get it as part of my business thing.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_03: And I use Google Keep now, but...
• 10:52
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• 11:24
  SPEAKER_01: But, you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: it just,
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_01: everybody,
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  SPEAKER_01: correct me if I'm wrong,
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  SPEAKER_01: but does it not seem like everybody
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  SPEAKER_03: is just,
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  SPEAKER_03: everybody's broke and everybody's raising their prices at a time
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  SPEAKER_03: when everybody's broke.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's fucking crazy.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_01: No, Jim, you're wrong on that one.
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  SPEAKER_01: Back to YouTube we go.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely not happening.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely not.
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  SPEAKER_03: I will lose Rumble first.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_03: I will go to CMS TV full-time first.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_03: There's no way are we going to YouTube ever again.
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  SPEAKER_03: Fuck those guys.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_03: Even just having the channel that we run the replays of,
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_03: Every single, every episode now gets a flag, either for music content or language.
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  SPEAKER_02: I've never seen so many, because all those flags come to the CMS request.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, constant.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_02: I'm getting six to ten a day.
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  SPEAKER_02: Constant.
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  SPEAKER_02: Six to ten a day.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we're not violating any rules.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_01: We're not violating, everything that we're doing is fair use or...
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I'm surprised they haven't taken any down in a while.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_01: But they're constantly blocking.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, you see the mails.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_03: Every day it's, this has been blocked in 146 countries or whatever.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I guess you're not fucking listening there, Barton.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_03: I said the replays are posted there.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_03: But not live.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_03: We won't go there live.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_03: And the reason I do it that way is because if we do something that's too hot
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_03: for YouTube, I just don't post it.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_03: That's why.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_03: You know, if we do something and I say, you know, faggot 15 times, I know YouTube will flag it.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I don't post it there.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_03: I just am like, whatever.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, and I don't care.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_03: I'm never going to.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_03: I'm never going to go back to streaming live on YouTube again.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_03: No way.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_03: I don't want to be part of their fucking nonsense.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_03: I only post the other stuff there because I know we gain fans.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_03: But if you go to our YouTube channel right at this minute,
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  SPEAKER_03: right now, you know what it's streaming for us?
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  SPEAKER_03: A blank thing that says YouTube is the devil.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_03: Come over to our Rumble page.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_03: I do that during the CMS.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_03: That's, you know, that's exactly what I put up there.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_03: And I don't broadcast the show at all, you know, because fuck YouTube.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_03: I hate them.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_01: I absolutely hate them.
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  SPEAKER_01: I hate the way that they have, I hate the way they screwed our old channel.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_01: And I hate that they're still as popular as they are, but they are.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you got to put your content there if you want to survive,
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_03: but don't have to put it all.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_03: And the other thing I do with the YouTube too, is I just, I used to contest everything.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_03: I used to argue with them all the time about fair use.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_03: Now, you've never gone through the process, I'm assuming, Neil.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_03: No, no.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_03: Now you can just click through and it goes,
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_03: well, we'll put it up, but we'll cut out that segment.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_03: Especially with copyright stuff, they'll say, well, we'll just cut it out.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm just like, okay, fine, fuck it, cut it out.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_03: I don't care because I don't care what the YouTube experience is.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_03: The YouTube experience is shitty.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_03: Well, people know that they know why it's cut out.
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  SPEAKER_03: So fuck it.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_03: Don't care.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_03: Just do not care.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_03: Fuck YouTube.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_03: Fucking cunts.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_03: But anyway,
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  SPEAKER_03: the StreamYard thing is a big deal because we have we've been using StreamYard
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_03: for what, five years?
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, close to five years.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_01: And it works great.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_03: I would hate to have to go back to what we were doing before with the With the Skype.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the Skype.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you know, Skype worked well at the time.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, but this was before the advancements were made in all the streaming.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because, you know, you remember,
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  SPEAKER_02: you couldn't have a video with each other in real time.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_02: There was always a delay or a lag or something like that.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_02: But, you know, now it's seamless.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_02: Seamless, yeah.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so we will be moving.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not sure what platform yet,
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_01: but I am diligently working on,
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_01: I think I figured out how to do the,
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_01: the hardest thing is getting,
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_01: it's not even getting you and me together in a thing anymore.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_01: It's getting so that you can see and hear the video.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_01: Like if I play a YouTube video or something, that's actually a big hassle.
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  SPEAKER_01: But I think I have it figured out.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'll be testing it this week a little bit.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'd say probably,
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, again, we're paid up for, didn't we just pay that in like July or something?
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think July.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_01: So we're good for a while.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_03: We don't have to give up on StreamYard.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_03: But I think what we will probably do is get it all put together.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_03: And then maybe me and you'll do some like bonus shows or something to test it.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_03: You know, just to test out new screens and new shit.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_03: You know, we'll do that.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_03: And then once we figure that out,
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_03: then we'll worry about it and see if we can get some of our money back
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_03: from these money-grubbing dicks.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_02: Well, speaking of,
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_02: since we're on this subject about the whole being censored and rumble and being,
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_02: you know...
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_02: Blocked out of certain countries and things.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_02: I'd sent you over an email.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you get these emails from the CEO of Rumble.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_01: Chris Pawlowski?
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_01: I do get those.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_01: I think I did watch his little video.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he sent out a little note this week about people boycotting Rumble as far
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_02: as not advertising on Rumble because of Because of their free speech.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_02: And this just goes to show you that there are companies out there who don't believe
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_02: in free speech, apparently.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_02: So this Chris Pavlosky, CEO of Rumble, he has sent out a little note there.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_02: He says, hi, Rumblers, Dunkin' Donuts.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, I have no tolerance.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_02: Dunkin' Donuts.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, hey.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_02: God damn it.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_02: I'd be like Perry Farrell and come over there and shoulder check you.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_01: See, Barton said that you guys need a producer.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_01: Well, no shit.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_01: We're doing it all ourselves.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_01: Fuck off.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we've been doing it ourselves from day one.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_01: You need an editor of your posts because they're all shitty.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_01: So shut the fuck up.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_02: Anyway, this Chris Pavlosky, he put out a note this week.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_02: Dunkin' Donuts decided they don't want to advertise on Rumble because they say,
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_02: quote unquote, the right-wing culture of the site is too polarizing.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_02: So he responded with a small video, which Chris will play here in a second.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_02: I trashed their coffee.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_02: And it's just basically a way of saying, you know, join Rumble Premium.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_02: Use the code Duncan to get $10 off your premium subscription.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_02: And tell your friends to do the same.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_02: Together we can end this blatant discrimination of corporate America.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_02: So again, this all boils down to what we've been talking about for years.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_02: Money talks.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_02: Money is everything, you know.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm going to control you.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_02: I'm going to cancel you.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_02: I'm going to take away your money.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_02: I'm going to keep you from being able to make a living because I don't like what you do.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_01: Before we play the video, I'm just going to say I was extremely disappointed in this one.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, really?
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't see it.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_01: Not the video.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_01: The Dunkin' Donuts.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_01: I drink Dunkin' Coffee a ton.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_02: I can't drink their coffee anymore because they cut this over.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not going to be a dummy.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not going to be one of these guys that's going to take my Dunkin' packs out
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_01: and burn them or whatever, like this guy's doing, throwing them away.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_01: Because throwing them away doesn't do anything.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_01: You already paid for them.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they already got your money.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_03: They got your money.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_03: But I'm going to go full-time.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_03: I've been going back and forth with some other coffees,
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_03: and I'm going to switch full-time to the other coffee.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_01: But I have four bags of Dunkin' coffee in the other room.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, God damn it, not Dunkin'.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_01: I love their coffee.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_01: And coffee's a big part of my life.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_01: I ain't going to lie.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_01: I have to have coffee.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_01: But what are you going to do, right?
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you can either support, you can support what,
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_03: how do I put this?
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_03: You don't want to support somebody that thinks you're a piece of shit as much as you can.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_03: And so onward I go to Blackout Coffee, I guess.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_01: Or back to Ellefson Coffee.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_01: I'll probably go back to Ellefson Coffee.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_03: All right, you want to see this video?
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, play
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_03: it real quick.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_01: All right, here we go.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_02: 45 seconds long.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so here's Chris Pavlosky, the CEO of Rumble.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, I'm Chris Pavlosky, CEO of Rumble.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_00: We're a public company on the NASDAQ under ticker RUM.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_00: Today, I released a damning email from Dunkin Donuts and Inspire Brands.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_00: In that email,
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_00: they discriminated against half the country by saying they will not advertise
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_00: on any platform with right wing culture.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_00: So I came home and I went in my drawer and look what I found.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_00: Dunkin Donuts.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_00: And I have the honor of taking this little tray and dumping it, dunking it, In the trash.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_00: I have no tolerance for Dunkin' Donuts when they're going to discriminate
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_00: against half of America.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_01: He ain't wrong.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: He's definitely not wrong.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_02: Better shut that down or it's going to start playing.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I killed it.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_01: You know.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's...
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_01: I hate that this keeps happening, but whatever.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: You got to do what you got to do.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_02: Well,
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_02: I'm glad to see that as much as people can try to take money away from you, well,
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_02: you can take money away from them because one of the American,
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_02: what do you want to call traditional American brands, i.e.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_02: Harley Davidson, they too reneged on their DEI programs.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, so they lost a shit ton of money too.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_02: Because you're talking bikers here.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_02: You're talking blue collar,
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_02: you know,
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_02: guys who ride bikes,
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_02: the blue collar guys who work with their hands, love rock and roll, like guns.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_02: They like fucking chicks, you know?
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like,
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_02: fuck you,
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_02: Harley Davidson,
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_02: and you're supporting transgender bullshit and you're You know,
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_02: you're hiring practices and all your other garbage.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_02: We're not buying your bikes anymore.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_02: Fuck you.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_02: We're going to go to Indian.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_02: And all of a sudden they go, you know what?
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_02: We're going to not do DEI practices anymore.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_02: That was a big mistake.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_02: John Deere tractor did the same thing.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_02: Now we're not doing DEI anymore.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_02: We're not doing that.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_02: Same thing with, uh, what tractor supply.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_02: Same thing.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_02: We're not doing that anymore.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_02: More and more companies are getting the message that people are not going
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_02: to spend their money with somebody who goes in with that culture bullshit.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_01: I've noticed how quietly the NFL has stopped preaching the bullshit completely now.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_01: In fact,
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_01: they've gone so far the other way that some of the coaches have come straight out
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_01: and said,
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_01: I think there was like 11 teams that did not celebrate Pride Month or even put
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_01: a post on their On their social medias or anything, because they're like, fuck this.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_01: People who watch football aren't spray painting their hair blue and calling themselves ZZers.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_01: It sucks that we're in this kind of battle.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_01: I just want to drink coffee.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_03: I hate that I got to worry about, well,
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_03: is this, am I funding basically somebody that's trying to take my rights from me?
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_02: And again,
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_02: if these corporations would stay out of this social activism,
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_02: stop with the social activism, make your product and shut your fucking mouth.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_01: Take your money and shut up.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_01: I don't care what you believe.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_01: You know, do I,
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, and let's be real honest, any company, any product in the world, Anyone.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_01: Half the people believe one thing, half the people believe another thing.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_01: I've got to imagine,
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_01: in your business,
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_01: yours might be different because it is small,
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_03: but in your business, I've got to imagine there are some Kamala Harris people.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_03: Not a single one?
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_02: Not that I'm aware of.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_03: All right, well, then I'm moving to paradise there to work.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_03: Not that I'm aware of.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_01: Because...
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I see it everywhere, man.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, honestly, I see more of that than I see it the other way.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_01: Honestly,
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_01: I see a whole lot less Trumpy people in the world today,
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_01: and I don't want to think about it.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to think about,
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_01: well, can I still watch the UFC because they took Bud Light as a sponsor?
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_01: In my life of watching boxing or whatever,
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_01: I never gave two fucks whose logo was on the mat of the rings.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_03: I don't care.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_03: I, do you care?
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_02: No, I never, well,
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_02: we never had to think about it before until they started getting,
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_02: getting into social activism.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_01: But now it's become that thing.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, okay, well,
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_01: if I'm paying 50 bucks for a UFC pay-per-view, am I supporting fucking Bud Light?
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_01: Am I supporting their, their activism bullshit?
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_01: You know?
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like, what the fuck?
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it just sucks.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_01: I hate that we're at this place that we're at now.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_01: I just hate it.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_02: Well,
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_02: for the people who actually do take this stuff seriously and won't spend their money
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_02: with certain things, keep the pressure on because it does make a difference.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_02: And again, I'll go with our good friend Jericho Green.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_02: The only color that matters is green.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_02: That's it.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_01: He's right about that.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_01: And not just because it's his name.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_02: It's not black, it's not white, it's not Asian, it's not anything, it's just green.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_02: So follow the money.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_02: Wherever the money is not, that's when people start making changes.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_02: Like, oh, I didn't make the money.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_01: Well, and that's it.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_01: And I think more and more people are leaning that way.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_01: And they should.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_01: They should.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I wish people would adopt some of the stuff that is still considered the fringe.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_01: Stuff like Public Square.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you're even aware of Public Square,
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_01: but Public Square is an app and a website that you can register
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_01: if you have right-leaning values, if you're not a leftist.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_01: And it's almost like a business directory of businesses.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_01: And I'll be honest, I have gone on, I use it.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_01: I use it when I need stuff because I don't want to.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_01: Am I using it full time?
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_01: Am I still giving some leftists some money?
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_01: You know, am I still shopping at Walmart?
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I am.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_01: Why?
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_01: Because they haven't come up with a good alternative that's not going
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_01: to price me out of fucking having groceries.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_01: You know, but I will buy, like I had to buy a...
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_01: An HDMI cable last week.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_01: And I went to Public Square and I found it through Public Square.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_01: And it might have been, I don't know, 50 cents more than what it would have been on Amazon.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_01: But I don't want to fucking fund Amazon anymore.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_01: Because Jeff Bezos is a fucking lunatic.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_01: He's all into this left-leaning fucking horse shit.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't want to support that anymore.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_01: So you got to do what you got to do, I guess.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_02: Got to pick your battles.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_02: That's right.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_02: Well, since we are into the sponsored segment of the show,
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_02: did you want to get into anything in particular?
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_02: Take her away, man.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, well, I didn't know.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_02: I know you said you wanted to talk about this Dave Grohl thing.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_01: Well, if you want to do that here, fine.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_01: If you want to do that where everybody can hear you.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, again, I know obviously this is something that is thought out in your mind.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, we can talk about it.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_02: That's fine.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_02: But we can wait till the next segment to talk about that.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_02: But, well, here's something that might get us some copyright strike, so we'll do it here.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_02: And it's not anything bad.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_02: It's just that the material we'll have to use for this segment will get us booted
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_02: from, say, YouTube or somewhere.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_02: Depending on where you're going to post this.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_01: Hold on.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_01: Barton's just looking to fucking get cyberpunched tonight.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_01: Your brother's a millionaire.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_01: What does his brother's income have to do with Chris?
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_01: What kind of self-respecting anybody
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_03: would go to their brother and say, please take care of me.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_03: Please pay my bills.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_03: Please.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_03: What are you, fucking stupid?
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not exactly broke.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_02: That's a weird thing to say.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_02: Your brother is a millionaire.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_01: So what does that have to do with me?
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_01: So he probably, and I'll tell you, as a millionaire, he probably shops at Walmart.
• 30:04
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• 30:08
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• 30:11
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• 30:15
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• 30:21
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I mean, fucking people, they buy shit there, because it's cheap.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_01: Why do you buy things there?
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_02: Well, see, I'm on the other side of the spectrum.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_02: I don't shop at Walmart.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but you have a different reason why.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_02: Because I don't like the clientele.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_02: Because you don't like the clientele.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_02: I don't shop at Walmart.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_02: I haven't set foot in a Walmart in over a decade.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, which is great.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_01: I haven't either, really.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, if you want to get down to that, I have not set my foot in there in forever.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, I just don't like the environment, you know.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_02: Because unfortunately,
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_02: and this is no smear on you,
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_02: but they appeal to the lowest common denominator in our society.
• 31:29
  That's me.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_01: I am a piece of shit.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_01: I know that.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_02: So I do not shop at Walmart.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_01: I acknowledge my shittiness.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_02: So anyway, I forwarded you an email that Brian Bauman submitted.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_02: He said, here's some video footage I seen on YouTube.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_02: I wasn't even aware that this was a thing until last week.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_02: Actually, the restaurant that I go to a lot of times on Sundays, Kelsey's Steakhouse.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_02: Here's a young gal over there by the name of Cole.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_02: She's 25, and she loves music, and she's not the typical music fan.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_02: She really gets into some weird stuff like Funkadelic.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_02: She's only 25, but she knows about Grandmaster Flash and Funkadelic.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_02: Like Bob Dylan.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_02: She knows a lot of old stuff.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_02: That's way before her time.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I didn't know that this was a tour that's going on,
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_02: but I guess it's Willie Nelson, Bob Dylan, and John Mellencamp.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Mellencamp, yeah.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_02: I wasn't aware that this was a package tour, but she went to see it.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_02: It was just here.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, I know this is footage from that.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, is it from Cleveland?
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_02: And I didn't know that they were touring together.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_02: And anyway, Willie and Bob sound really rough.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe time to call it quits.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_02: There's more videos of the show on this guy's YouTube page.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_02: So he sent a couple of clips of Bob Dylan and Willie Nelson.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_02: Who do you want first?
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_02: I don't care.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't see either one of them.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_02: I purposely didn't watch it,
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_02: but this gal,
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_02: Cole, she said, yeah, I went to see John Mellencamp and Willie Nelson and Bob Dylan.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_02: And I was just like, you did?
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_02: 25.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_02: So she went to the show last Saturday and I guess the show was in Cleveland this week?
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was sometime this week.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_01: My friend Jeremy went.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_01: He was posting all kinds of videos from it and
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_03: He said it was amazing,
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_03: but he always says things are amazing.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_03: He's one of those guys that always thinks everything's amazing.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_01: He thinks it's amazing because...
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, I've never... My friend Jeremy's my old intern from WMMS.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_01: He...
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_01: This guy... How do I say this without being a dick?
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_01: I don't.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_01: Just be a dick.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just going to be a dick.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_01: I've never seen anybody take so much pride...
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_01: In being a cheapskate.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_03: Everything he does is like,
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know what's better,
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_03: being in the second row of this or getting two for one from a Groupon and
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_03: then getting a free seed upgrade.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_01: He posts that kind of a post all the time.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't disrespect anybody that's using coupon,
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_01: because why give anybody anything more than you have to?
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_03: I agree.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_03: If you've got the time and you've got the patience to do that, more power to you.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_03: I wish I did.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_03: But I mean, this guy does it on Amazon.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_03: Everything.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, he's a skinflit.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_03: And he takes pride in that.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_03: And that, to me, every time I read the post, and I love Jeremy, so I'm not trying to smash him.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but he's one of the, you know who else was like that?
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_02: God rest his soul.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_02: Long-haired Mike?
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_02: Long-haired Mike.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_02: Long-haired Mike was down to the penny.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_03: Well, yeah, well, we know the free water.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, of course.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_02: Everything was cheap.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I got for nothing cheap.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, Jeff Pilsen, hold on a minute.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_02: Free water.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_02: I'm out of here.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_02: He loved free stuff or getting away or getting a bargain or a deal.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, holy shit, you live in your parents' basement.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't understand.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_01: I understand living the lifestyle.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_01: I don't understand life.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_01: Bragging that lifestyle.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_02: Well, and here's the ironic thing or the sad truth,
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_02: and this is not trashing our friend Mike because he was a good dude.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he was.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_02: I was a really good friends with him.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_02: But he lived in his parents' basement.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_02: And he had told me on numerous occasions, and it's weird how fate works out.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_02: The reason he still lives there is that when they're gone, the house is his.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_02: So there's no sense in living anywhere else because he's just going to end up moving back.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_02: Because he's going to take the house.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_02: But it ends up he ends up dying before his parents do.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_01: That sucks.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_02: So.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_02: But anyway.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_01: Well, let's dig into this.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_02: Jeremy went to this show.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_02: He did.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_02: Was this at Blossom or something?
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_02: It was at Blossom.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_01: So he was at this show as well, and he said it was fantastic.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_01: Now your friend is saying something different.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_02: Well, according to Brian,
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_02: who sent this in,
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_02: he's saying according to these videos, Dylan and Willie Nelson are a little rough.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_01: Well, we'll see.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not shocked about that, but we'll see.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, they're both, what, 90 years old?
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_01: I was going to say, they're both ancient.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_02: Is Willie Nelson like 90?
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_02: Willie's got to be 90.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_02: He's got to be like 90 or 92 or some shit.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, let's see.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_01: Willie Nelson.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_02: Nelson is 91 years young.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there you are.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_02: And I think Bob Dylan, he's like 86 or some shit.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_01: Bob Dylan is 83 years young.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_02: 83, okay.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_01: He's a young child on this team.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_01: Well, Mellencamp's the child.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_01: What's he, only about 70?
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's 75, I think.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, man, he's an infant.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_02: I think Mellencamp's 75.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_02: How old is he?
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_01: Who?
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_01: Mellencamp.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I thought you knew.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_01: Mellencamp.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_01: Mellencamp is 72 years young.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_01: 72.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_01: I was close.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_01: Young man there.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_01: He's, he's, he's the, he's the kid.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to, I'll, I'll agree with you T cuz I never have dealt with a farmer.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know that.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, farmers don't make a lot of money.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you know,
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_02: they traditionally just hardworking,
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_02: you know,
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_02: salt of the earth type people, but they were very careful with their money.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_02: And I can talk from personal experience, my grandparents, my father's parents.
• 38:21
  SPEAKER_01: Farmers?
• 38:21
  SPEAKER_02: Farmers.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_02: And they were frugal, but they didn't brag about it.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_02: They just did what they thought was wise.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_01: Were they frugal because they didn't know what the next year's harvest
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_01: or whatever would provide?
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_01: So they always made sure they had.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_01: But when they passed away, I'm assuming?
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_02: A long time ago.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to imagine that when they passed away, they probably had six, seven figures in a bank.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_02: They did.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_02: They had a bunch of land, and they had, I think, close to a million dollars in cash.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_01: Where me, when I pass away, people would be like, $63, really?
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_01: Because I'm going to spend it all.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_01: All right, let's get back to Bob Dylan.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_01: You ready for some of this?
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_01: Here's a long, all along the watchtower.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_01: Now, this has got to be good.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_01: He's always been so known as a great singer and everything else.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_01: All right, here we go.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_01: Is this who taught Vince Neal to sing?
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_01: Come on.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_02: It's just...
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_02: He's never been a great vocalist.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_02: He's more like a spoken word guy.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_01: These aren't even words.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_01: He's gone.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_02: Stop it.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_02: Let's get to the chorus.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_02: All along the watchtower.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_01: Before we get there real quick.
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_01: Everyone in this band is like 80.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_01: They're all old.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_01: Well, they're old.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_01: And I guess that's fine, I guess.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_01: But man, oh man, how in the hell are you?
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_01: Can you imagine the travel with these 80 and 90 year olds?
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, three buses full of people between 70 and 90.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they got oxygen tanks hooked up at the ready.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_01: Probably do.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_01: They probably look like some kind of.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_01: Engine or something on the sides of the bus that feeds oxygen in.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_01: Good God.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_01: All right, here we go.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_01: Is that his hair or a Daniel Boone hat?
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_01: He's got a raccoon hat.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_01: Doesn't it look like it?
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's his hair.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_01: That's not his real hair.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_01: Come on.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure it is.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_01: That's a wig.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_01: Who knows?
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_01: I know it ain't the real color.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_01: I know it.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_01: The man is 82 years old.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_03: He's got less gray than I do.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_03: All right, here we go.
• 42:24
  This is not how I feel.
• 42:25
  It's not how I feel.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's not how I feel.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_00: It's not how I feel.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_00: It's not how I feel.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what's going on.
• 43:16
  There's a scope of you.
• 43:17
  I don't want to get enough.
• 43:18
  There's a 72.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_00: Outside in the distance.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I can't do it now.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_00: Your mind is all about you now.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_02: He got his tongue cut out, right?
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_02: Well,
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_02: the weird thing about this show is if you didn't know that was Bob Dylan up there,
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_02: what does he bring to the show aside from I'm Bob Dylan?
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_03: Nothing.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_02: This is so funny.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_02: It's just like, well, because his band, obviously, they're a pretty proficient band.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, they sound very solid,
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_02: but if you didn't know that was Bob Dylan up there, what does he bring to the show?
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_01: Let's be honest here.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_01: Let's have our Eddie Trunk moment.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_01: This or Trax?
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_02: I'll go with some Trax.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_01: I'll go with some Trax.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_01: I would absolutely go with Trax over this.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_01: How about Guy Behind the Curtain?
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, why not?
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_01: The only problem with that is it doesn't seem like this guy sings like on any cadence.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_01: He's just throwing words out wherever he wants to.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_02: Well, he's Bob Dylan.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_02: That's the genius of Bob Dylan.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, is it?
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's the Bob Dylan experience, man.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_01: So your friend that went to this, did she have a good time?
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_02: She said she had a great time, but she's 25.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_02: So it's not like she would know any different.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_02: True.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_02: True.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_03: What is his name, Maury?
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Maury's Wigs.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_03: Maury's Wigs.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_02: They don't come off.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_03: Even when you jump in the pool.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_03: The best part,
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_03: that's one of the best scenes in the whole fucking movie,
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_03: by the way, when De Niro starts beating his ass and the wig falls off.
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's got the phone cord wrapped around his neck.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_03: And what's his name, just starts laughing his ass off, Ray Liotta, just laughing about the wig.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_01: Such a good scene.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_01: Who would have thought Ray Liotta dead, Bob De Niro not?
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_01: How does that work?
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_01: All right, a little more of this.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_01: There's only a little more left of this wonderful performance.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_03: Stunning.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_03: Bob Dylan.
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_03: He's like lost.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_03: He's lost on the stage, doesn't know where he is.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_03: It's like those old Gordon Lightfoot videos we saw at the end where Gordon was just,
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_03: they were clearly just leading him to the stage and said,
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_03: here you go, don't fall off.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_02: Well, let's see some 91-year-old Willie Nelson.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_01: All right, let me get to that one.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_01: Watch him be like 10 times better.
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_01: I'll bet he is.
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_01: Even at 91, I'll bet you he's 10 times better than Bob Dylan.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_01: Want that bet?
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_02: We'll see how
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_01: it works out.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_01: All right, let's see.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_01: Here we go.
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_01: Willie Nelson.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, y'all!
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_03: Doesn't look a day over 80.
• 47:57
  Man, them people at Blossom losing their mind over this.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_02: I don't understand why people who are way, way back away start yelling, we love you, Willie!
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_02: We love you!
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_02: It's like...
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_02: Can he hear you?
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_02: Can he hear you up there with his in-ear monitors in?
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_02: Can he hear you yelling?
• 48:15
  SPEAKER_01: We love you, Willie!
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_01: First of all, he's 90.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_01: He couldn't hear you if you were standing next to him.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_01: Jeez, oh, man.
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, just listen.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_01: But the crowd noise in this is like, woo-hoo-hoo-hoo!
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, man.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, holy shit, it's Willie Nelson.
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know who,
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_01: but I don't think Willie Nelson should generate that kind of emotion, should he?
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_02: Got some hardcore fans.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_01: Guess so.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_02: All right, here we go.
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_02: Look
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_03: at that young guy.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_03: Was that his grandson?
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_00: We love you!
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we love you!
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_00: Woo!
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_00: Just can't remember, take my mind.
• 49:15
  Don't ever get me close to it.
• 49:19
  Just can't remember, knock my pride.
• 49:23
  For all I got, take care of it.
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_00: Just can't remember, take my mind.
• 49:29
  Don't ever get me close to it.
• 49:33
  SPEAKER_00: Just can't remember, knock my pride.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_00: Just can't remember, knock my pride.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_01: Not gonna lie, he sounds like Willie Nelson.
• 49:51
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• 50:39
  SPEAKER_01: He sounds just fine.
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, Bob Dylan sounded fucking wretched.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm not a Willie Nelson fan at all,
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_01: but this sounds like what he sounds like, what he did in his 50s or whatever.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_02: Well, if your dad was still alive, he'd be at the show.
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, you know he would have been.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_03: He'd have been trying to get me to go.
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_03: Right, of course.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_01: And like, you know what?
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_01: Let's go relive the 70s.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_01: Let's go listen to some real music.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_01: We can go after that fucking hack John Mellencamp.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_01: We don't want any of that from your era.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_01: Let's get back to my era.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_01: The Willie Nelson music.
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_03: He was a big Willie Nelson guy.
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_03: I'm sure he was.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_03: Truck driver.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and he had that same stupid hat, too.
• 51:25
  Mm-hmm.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_01: And I remember it well because he used to wear that hat when he did this thing.
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know why he did this,
• 51:35
  SPEAKER_01: but he wore hats all the time from when he was probably in his 20s or 30s
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_01: or whatever.
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_01: So, of course, he got the hat skullet
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_03: where the hair just goes away.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_03: But he grew three or four hairs all the way that would comb over.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_03: So he would do the comb over,
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_03: and then they got so long that he would do the comb over and kind
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_03: of put his fingers here to hold them and do the pull back.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_03: And then he'd put the hat
• 52:05
  SPEAKER_01: on top of it, right?
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_01: So when he would come in,
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_01: like after he'd been on a run or something,
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_01: trucking,
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_01: he'd come in,
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_01: he'd take off his coat,
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_01: he'd hang
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_03: it on a chair or whatever, and he'd take off the hat.
• 52:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_03: You know how those guys, they don't take it off from the front.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_03: They take it off on the side.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_03: He would take it off on the side,
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_03: and the hair, the four long hairs would kind of flop to one side.
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_03: Right, right.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_03: Like a free willy-wales fin.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_03: Well, it's just like Kingpin with- Bill Murray.
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_02: Bill Murray.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_02: He had the same thing, and when he's up there bowling, his hair is
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_03: like- Yes.
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_03: It was just like that.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_03: And he would come in,
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_03: and none of us had the balls, including my mom, to say, hey, fix your fucking hair.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_03: You know,
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_03: he was sitting there eating some spaghetti
• 52:55
  SPEAKER_03: and he'd have this fucking free willy hair,
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_03: you know, and it was like, what are you doing, dude?
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_03: Brush your hair.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_01: Cut that shit.
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_01: Shave it.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_01: He never did fully shave it.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_01: Even when he even when he passed away, he still had the fucking Greek ring of shame.
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it wasn't as long and pulled over anymore, but he had but he still kept this bullshit.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_01: If you started losing your hair on the top,
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_01: would you keep that or would you just go straight up bald it?
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_01: I'd just go shaved.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_01: I would just go right.
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_01: As long as my hair is, and I mean, you knew me back then.
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_01: I used to keep my hair shaved all the time.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you used to have the brush cut.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I had the Phil Anselmo Arian Nation look.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I really went for it for a while, but then, you know, now there's this.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_01: Now there's the other end of that spectrum.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_01: The pendulum swing around.
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you could braid your hair like Willie Nelson does.
• 53:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I could now.
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_01: Every time I run into Stephanie,
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_01: she always gets into my hair and starts braiding it when we're at the bar.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, what are you doing?
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_01: Stop it.
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_02: Braid your hair like Willie and get a hat.
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I could.
• 54:05
  SPEAKER_01: Get one of those nice hats.
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_01: Big old stupid hat.
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_01: I still can't believe that first summer when I was dating Teresa that I was going
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_01: to country shows for Wearing those stupid hats and the boots and everything else.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_01: What a fag.
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_02: Because she thought your tractor was sexy.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_01: Kenny Chesney, baby.
• 54:27
  SPEAKER_01: And I went to that shit.
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_01: Actually, it was a fun time.
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_01: I'd love to say it was a terrible show, but it was a lot of fun.
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_03: But still, fucking Cowboy Chris with his dumb hat and his boots and everything.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_03: Get all in.
• 54:42
  SPEAKER_03: What a dummy.
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_03: Just for some pussy.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_03: What a fucking idiot.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_03: Anyway, let's go back to Willie.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_03: Here we go.
• 55:49
  SPEAKER_01: I know Willie's been broken all,
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_01: but can't he afford on this tour to get a better microphone than that?
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_01: What's that, a $30 mic?
• 55:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, who knows?
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_02: That is a cheap mic.
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it doesn't look like a nice Sennheiser or something like that.
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_02: This guy's mic looks better.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_01: This guy right here, look at that mic.
• 56:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_01: That looks better than what he's rocking.
• 56:13
  SPEAKER_02: Well, whatever the production crew brings with him.
• 56:17
  SPEAKER_01: Willie's rocking a microphone that you get a box of six for $100.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's a cheap mic.
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_01: He's Willie fucking Nelson.
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_01: Come on, man.
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_01: Do better.
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_01: Come on, man.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_01: You want more of this or do we get the gist?
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we get the gist.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_01: You want to see if we can find some Mellencamp on this?
• 56:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, find some Mellencamp.
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_02: There's,
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_02: there's one, uh,
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_02: it looks like,
• 56:42
  SPEAKER_02: it looks like Mellencamp does all along the watchtower, even after Dylan did it.
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_02: He does it too?
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_02: That's according to this.
• 56:51
  SPEAKER_02: I'll shoot this one over, but go ahead and pull, pull that up.
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 56:56
  SPEAKER_01: There's pink houses.
• 57:00
  SPEAKER_01: Does he have his umbrella guy with it?
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_01: Well, no, it's a blossom.
• 57:02
  SPEAKER_02: He wouldn't need it.
• 57:03
  SPEAKER_02: It's an evening show.
• 57:05
  SPEAKER_01: It's in.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_01: It's a blossom.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_01: He's got a big umbrella.
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_01: Here we go.
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_01: Here's John Mellencamp, Little Pink Houses.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_00: There's a black man with a black cap, and then a black nigga girl.
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_00: He's got it in the sky,
• 57:38
  he's got it,
• 57:38
  SPEAKER_00: he's got it,
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_00: he's got it,
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_00: he's got it,
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_00: he's got it,
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_00: he's got it, he's got it,
• 57:43
  SPEAKER_00: he's got it,
• 57:43
  SPEAKER_00: he's got it,
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_00: he's got it,
• 57:44
  he's got it,
• 57:44
  he's got it,
• 57:45
  he's got it,
• 57:45
  he's got it,
• 57:46
  he's got it,
• 57:46
  he's got it,
• 57:47
  he's got it,
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_00: he's got it,
• 57:48
  SPEAKER_00: he's got it,
• 57:48
  SPEAKER_00: he's got it,
• 57:49
  he's got it,
• 57:49
  he's got it,
• 57:50
  he's got it,
• 57:51
  he's got it,
• 57:51
  SPEAKER_00: he's got it,
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_00: he's got it,
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_00: he's got it,
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_00: he's got it,
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_00: he's got it,
• 57:55
  SPEAKER_00: he's got it,
• 57:55
  SPEAKER_00: he's got it,
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_00: he's got it,
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_00: he's got it,
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_00: he's got it,
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_00: he's got it,
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_00: he's got it,
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_00: he's got it,
• 57:59
  SPEAKER_00: he's got it,
• 57:59
  SPEAKER_00: he's got it,
• 57:59
  SPEAKER_00: he's got it Honey, Jack, this is tough, and I'm lucky to be a trouble club.
• 58:08
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, but in Jack,
• 58:10
  SPEAKER_00: America,
• 58:11
  SPEAKER_00: you and me,
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_00: in Jack,
• 58:13
  SPEAKER_00: America,
• 58:14
  SPEAKER_00: something to see, baby, in Jack, America, I want free, yeah, look good times.
• 58:29
  SPEAKER_01: Ain't that throat cancer taking over me?
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_01: Jeez.
• 58:34
  SPEAKER_01: He is an avid smoker.
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_01: I can tell.
• 58:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 58:38
  SPEAKER_01: I can smell the smoke on his microphone.
• 58:40
  SPEAKER_01: Jesus Christ.
• 58:43
  SPEAKER_01: He really sounds, I mean, he sounds okay.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not trying to say that this is bad.
• 58:49
  SPEAKER_01: This would be acceptable.
• 58:51
  SPEAKER_01: But man, oh man, what happened?
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I know what happened.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_01: Smoke.
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_01: Smoke.
• 58:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, for 40 years, 50 years of smoking.
• 59:00
  SPEAKER_03: He's like, ain't that America?
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_03: You and me, baby.
• 59:05
  SPEAKER_03: It's like, dude.
• 59:06
  SPEAKER_02: But he kind of relishes the fact that his voice is gravelly like that
• 59:10
  SPEAKER_02: because he's said that it mimics like old blues singers.
• 59:17
  SPEAKER_01: No, he's wrong.
• 59:19
  SPEAKER_02: That's his thoughts.
• 59:20
  SPEAKER_01: Well, he's wrong.
• 59:21
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't do that at all.
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_01: What it does is makes it sound like he smokes like nonstop.
• 59:27
  SPEAKER_01: He sounds bad.
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I guess.
• 59:31
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, if he wanted to go out and play a muddy water set or something, I guess he could.
• 59:37
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I'll give
• 59:39
  SPEAKER_02: him credit.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_02: He has stayed committed to that whole stage set with the whole jumpsuit, you know, the theme.
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_02: He's stayed with this theme on this whole tour.
• 59:54
  SPEAKER_01: Well, good for him.
• 59:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's like, wow,
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_02: you guys are really dedicated to that whole theme,
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_02: that old 50s garage mechanic thing.
• 1:00:06
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe it's because he sounds like an old garage mechanic now.
• 1:00:10
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe that's why he's using that theme.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a real working man.
• 1:00:13
  SPEAKER_01: See, no voice.
• 1:00:15
  SPEAKER_02: Well, that's the whole thing.
• 1:00:16
  SPEAKER_02: That's the whole theme of it.
• 1:00:19
  SPEAKER_02: It's music for the working man.
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_03: True.
• 1:00:27
  SPEAKER_03: Mimics gravel.
• 1:00:31
  SPEAKER_03: That's pretty funny.
• 1:00:34
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, boy.
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_02: But I'll tell you,
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_02: during that Lonesome Jubilee tour back in 87, 88, that was when he was at his peak.
• 1:00:44
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I saw him on Uh-huh Tour and he was great.
• 1:00:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, he was at his peak.
• 1:00:49
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I saw him on the Scarecrow Tour,
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_02: the Lonesome Jubilee Tour, saw him on the Whenever We Wanted Tour.
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_02: That's where I met him.
• 1:00:59
  SPEAKER_02: And then I saw him on the Dance Naked Tour and the Cutting Heads Tour.
• 1:01:06
  SPEAKER_02: I've seen Mellencamp at least a dozen times.
• 1:01:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, I've seen him.
• 1:01:11
  SPEAKER_02: But of all the shows that I saw that...
• 1:01:14
  SPEAKER_02: Lonesome Jubilee Tour, he was at his pinnacle at that point.
• 1:01:20
  SPEAKER_01: Fair enough.
• 1:01:21
  SPEAKER_01: I saw him the once, he was good.
• 1:01:24
  SPEAKER_01: I certainly wouldn't say he was bad, but I don't know.
• 1:01:28
  SPEAKER_01: Now the combination of his politics and that fucking astronomy jealous forehead,
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_01: I can't go to that.
• 1:01:37
  SPEAKER_01: That's a big forehead there.
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_01: That's a six head.
• 1:01:40
  SPEAKER_01: Not even a fiver.
• 1:01:41
  SPEAKER_01: That's a full six.
• 1:01:44
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 1:01:44
  SPEAKER_01: You want me to switch to a long,
• 1:01:46
  SPEAKER_01: a long, a
• 1:01:47
  SPEAKER_02: long, they do a little comparison there and then we'll cut it.
• 1:01:51
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 1:01:51
  SPEAKER_02: Let's share that screen all along the watch.
• 1:01:54
  SPEAKER_02: But again, I, I,
• 1:01:55
  SPEAKER_02: I wasn't even aware of this was a,
• 1:01:57
  SPEAKER_02: a tour this year, but you know, tell, you know, would
• 1:02:02
  SPEAKER_03: you have gone?
• 1:02:05
  SPEAKER_02: I'm done with, I'm done with seeing this stuff anymore.
• 1:02:10
  SPEAKER_02: I saw it when it was good.
• 1:02:12
  SPEAKER_02: I just don't want to see these guys, these decrepit guys.
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_02: I appreciate the fact that they're 80 and 90 years old,
• 1:02:23
  SPEAKER_02: still out there performing in front of audiences,
• 1:02:25
  SPEAKER_02: but I just don't have any interest in seeing it.
• 1:02:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:02:29
  SPEAKER_01: I know I'm really battling with myself about going to see the Black Crows.
• 1:02:35
  SPEAKER_01: They're playing at the Rock Casino.
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_02: They're playing over here at the Hard Rock Casino,
• 1:02:39
  SPEAKER_02: and I'm thinking I'd like to go, and then the other part tells me, eh.
• 1:02:45
  SPEAKER_01: See, that's it.
• 1:02:46
  SPEAKER_01: It's not really the Black Crows.
• 1:02:47
  SPEAKER_01: It's the brothers.
• 1:02:48
  SPEAKER_01: That's not the Black Crows.
• 1:02:50
  SPEAKER_01: It's just the brothers.
• 1:02:52
  SPEAKER_01: But, um...
• 1:02:56
  SPEAKER_01: I'm fighting with myself over it.
• 1:02:59
  SPEAKER_01: I want to see those songs, but I don't know.
• 1:03:04
  SPEAKER_01: I'd like to see it in a small venue like that, too, like the Roxino.
• 1:03:09
  SPEAKER_01: We got to talk about Dave Grohl before I go to bed.
• 1:03:11
  SPEAKER_01: Well, since you've been such a cooperative asshole in the chat room, no, we don't.
• 1:03:15
  SPEAKER_01: We'll do it about 2.30, just for you.
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_01: 2.30 Eastern.
• 1:03:21
  SPEAKER_01: Fuck off, Barden.
• 1:03:22
  SPEAKER_01: Annoying me tonight.
• 1:03:24
  SPEAKER_02: All right, let's play this.
• 1:03:25
  SPEAKER_02: Let's take a break.
• 1:03:27
  SPEAKER_01: All right,
• 1:03:45
  here we go.
• 1:03:47
  SPEAKER_00: No reason to get excited.
• 1:03:49
  SPEAKER_00: Of course.
• 1:03:51
  SPEAKER_00: There are many here
• 1:03:55
  SPEAKER_00: among us that feel alive, it's been a joke.
• 1:04:01
  SPEAKER_00: But you and I, we've been today, and this is not our fate.
• 1:04:11
  SPEAKER_00: So let us stop talking falsely now, that I was feeling great.
• 1:04:28
  SPEAKER_01: That's not very good.
• 1:04:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's not very good.
• 1:04:37
  SPEAKER_02: Completely just trash, just singing voice.
• 1:04:40
  SPEAKER_01: That's just gone.
• 1:04:43
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, wow.
• 1:04:46
  SPEAKER_01: That's what four packs a day does.
• 1:04:49
  SPEAKER_01: It does.
• 1:04:50
  SPEAKER_01: That's true.
• 1:04:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:04:55
  SPEAKER_02: Well, let's, let's fast forward and go to the Dylan side here.
• 1:04:59
  SPEAKER_01: This is the intermission act at a local TD bar.
• 1:05:04
  SPEAKER_01: They look like angry old lesbians.
• 1:05:06
  SPEAKER_01: All right, let's go to the middle here.
• 1:05:11
  SPEAKER_01: All right, here's Dylan.
• 1:05:13
  So it must come through.
• 1:05:50
  SPEAKER_01: I hate it for anybody that's just a fan of this song.
• 1:05:54
  SPEAKER_01: I get two doses of shit.
• 1:05:56
  SPEAKER_01: Holy cow.
• 1:05:58
  SPEAKER_01: They're both awful.
• 1:06:03
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, they got, they got good bands.
• 1:06:05
  SPEAKER_02: Their bands seem to be playing pretty well,
• 1:06:07
  SPEAKER_02: but boy, this, this just, we gotta find a way out of here.
• 1:06:13
  SPEAKER_02: Send the joker to the thief.
• 1:06:16
  SPEAKER_02: Again, if you didn't know that was Dylan up there or melon camp,
• 1:06:19
  SPEAKER_02: would it really make any difference?
• 1:06:20
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 1:06:22
  SPEAKER_01: Does your, um, does your friend that went to this, does she drink heavily?
• 1:06:25
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 1:06:26
  SPEAKER_02: This is a 25-year-old seeing legendary singers.
• 1:06:33
  SPEAKER_01: So is she more
• 1:06:37
  SPEAKER_01: excited that she's seeing these names than actually what she's seeing?
• 1:06:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, I would say that would be the case.
• 1:06:44
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:06:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, this is piss poor.
• 1:06:48
  SPEAKER_02: That's why I have a difficult time even considering going to one of these shows
• 1:06:53
  SPEAKER_02: because I saw most of these people in
• 1:06:56
  SPEAKER_02: their prime and I don't want to see this.
• 1:07:00
  SPEAKER_01: Or you just don't want to, you never wanted to see it.
• 1:07:02
  SPEAKER_01: Like I would have never gone to a Bob Dylan show.
• 1:07:04
  SPEAKER_01: Would you?
• 1:07:05
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 1:07:06
  SPEAKER_01: Not a fan.
• 1:07:07
  SPEAKER_01: I never was a fan.
• 1:07:08
  SPEAKER_01: I always thought he sucked.
• 1:07:10
  SPEAKER_01: Get the fuck out of here with that
• 1:07:13
  SPEAKER_02: shit.
• 1:07:15
  SPEAKER_02: Lay across my big brass bed.
• 1:07:17
  SPEAKER_01: I don't hate that song, but that's like the one.
• 1:07:23
  SPEAKER_02: You gotta serve somebody.
• 1:07:26
  SPEAKER_02: You gotta serve somebody.
• 1:07:29
  SPEAKER_02: Junk.
• 1:07:31
  SPEAKER_01: Junk.
• 1:07:32
  SPEAKER_01: I never got the appeal to this dude.
• 1:07:36
  SPEAKER_01: Now, Mellencamp I did like, but I don't know.
• 1:07:39
  SPEAKER_01: Then he started spewing his fucking bullshit.
• 1:07:43
  SPEAKER_01: It's just like, shut the fuck up, big head.
• 1:07:49
  SPEAKER_01: All right, well, so much for that.
• 1:07:51
  SPEAKER_01: Well, if you went and you had a good time, well, congrats, I guess.
• 1:07:57
  SPEAKER_01: It must have been fun.
• 1:07:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:08:03
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 1:08:04
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I say we take a break.
• 1:08:05
  SPEAKER_02: We'll come back and maybe talk some Dave Girl.
• 1:08:09
  SPEAKER_01: I say we wait.
• 1:08:11
  SPEAKER_02: I said maybe.
• 1:08:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, maybe.
• 1:08:13
  SPEAKER_02: Didn't say we would.
• 1:08:14
  SPEAKER_02: I said maybe.
• 1:08:15
  SPEAKER_02: That sounds good.
• 1:08:18
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 1:08:18
  SPEAKER_02: I'll let you pick a tune.
• 1:08:20
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 1:08:21
  SPEAKER_01: Let me pull up my listy list here.
• 1:08:23
  SPEAKER_01: You know what?
• 1:08:24
  SPEAKER_01: Since you mentioned Lay Lady Lay, I'm going to request Lay Lady Lay, but not by Dylan.
• 1:08:28
  SPEAKER_01: Is it Ministry?
• 1:08:29
  SPEAKER_01: Ministry.
• 1:08:31
  SPEAKER_01: That would be from the Filth Pig release, I believe.
• 1:08:35
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, even I knew that.
• 1:08:36
  SPEAKER_01: Of course, because you're a big fan of ministry, I'm sure.
• 1:08:39
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 1:08:41
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure you've been to all of his shows.
• 1:08:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, I have.
• 1:08:45
  SPEAKER_01: That was one of the funnest things I ever did ever on MMS when I had
• 1:08:48
  SPEAKER_01: a political battle with him.
• 1:08:51
  SPEAKER_01: Me and him yelling at each other about politics.
• 1:08:54
  SPEAKER_01: And then he ended up getting us, we had to go to, we had to dump because he kept saying fuck.
• 1:09:02
  SPEAKER_01: He said, you're a fucking idiot.
• 1:09:03
  SPEAKER_01: You're a fucking idiot.
• 1:09:04
  SPEAKER_01: I was going right back at him.
• 1:09:07
  SPEAKER_03: But it was a lot of fun to actually just argue politics with him.
• 1:09:10
  SPEAKER_02: It was fun.
• 1:09:11
  SPEAKER_02: So Al Jorgensen, he's a different character for sure.
• 1:09:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, he is.
• 1:09:17
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 1:09:18
  SPEAKER_02: Well, here it is.
• 1:09:19
  SPEAKER_02: It's Al Jorgensen in Ministry covering the Bob Dylan classic,
• 1:09:24
  SPEAKER_02: Lay, Lady, Lay, Lay Across My Big Brass Bed.