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- 0:00It's thirty eight. All bills can win In here, Wake puts it down,
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- 1:42Anthony Paraska. Find me on Twitter at pro Underscore underscore and that's pro two
- 1:45underscores a n t in tonight's episode of Disguise coverage. Pretty straightforward episode based
- 1:51on the title, based on the graphic, taking a look at who on
- 1:55the current roster for the Buffalo Bills needs to step up in twenty twenty four,
- 2:00needs to take a jump in their game, raise their game in twenty
- 2:04twenty four. Who from this team, this current roster, who the Bills
- 2:08need more from in twenty twenty four. And you know this, this episode
- 2:13came about with you know, diving really into the free agency pieces of this
- 2:17offseason, the draft pieces. We've really kind of put the roster under a
- 2:22microscope a bit the past several weeks here on Diskui's coverage. The will continue
- 2:24to do so throughout the offseason. And this idea kind of just came to
- 2:29me looking at the roster and trying to figure out ways for this team to
- 2:32get better going forward, trying to finally get out of the AFC, finally
- 2:37get to a Super Bowl, finally win a super Bowl with this team and
- 2:39with this roster and this coaching staff, and just a kind of doing these
- 2:43exercises and looking at wayse for this team to get better. You kind of
- 2:46just organically see the roster and think like, oh, you know, it'd
- 2:50be great if like Timmy over there played better this year. You know what,
- 2:53Man, imagine what the Bills could be if you know, Timmy did
- 2:55X this year or did why this year? And so that's how this episode
- 2:59came together, and it really started out with one specific player in mind and
- 3:06then kind of got the ball rolled and well too, I guess really,
- 3:08but one that is flying a bit under the radar, which we're going to
- 3:12get into in this episode about. But that's really how the kind of the
- 3:15genesis and the origin story of how this episode came together. And I'm sure
- 3:20we'll cotinue to talk about pieces like this throughout the entirety of the off season
- 3:23because again, as we've talked about on this show, this offseason is a
- 3:27pivotal one for this Buffalo Bill's team, with the Josh Allen money starting to
- 3:30kick in this the Von Diggs money really starting to kick in, the money
- 3:35you have committed to Von Miller and Tredavius White and where you can kind of
- 3:38give yourself some wiggle room where you don't have wiggle room, and then looking
- 3:42at what's available in free agency and the draft and putting it all together to
- 3:46significantly shape what this Buffalo Bill's team will be really going forward for the next
- 3:52several years. I don't think this offseason is as much about twenty twenty four
- 3:58as it is about twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five, and twenty twenty
- 4:00six. If this off season is done correctly, the Bills could really set
- 4:05the table or set or set themselves up well and set the table well for
- 4:09themselves going forward for the next several years. This is a very important offseason.
- 4:12And again in that Vein continue to put this roster under the microscope,
- 4:15and that's where kind of the idea for this episode came together. And so
- 4:20without further ado, let's jump right into it for this episode. For those
- 4:25of you playing at home joining me here live on this Wednesday, Wednesday,
- 4:28Tuesday, February twentieth, any thoughts, questions, comments, concerns, anything
- 4:31in everything you got, feel free to put it up into the chat.
- 4:34Who you think needs to step up for the Bills in twenty twenty four and
- 4:38why, what you'll be looking for, what you want in free agency,
- 4:42what you want in the draft, anything and everything Bills related, football related,
- 4:45wrestling related, whatever you got, throwed up into the chat if you're
- 4:47joining me live here on the show. I'd really like to keep this engagement
- 4:53focused here on the show, but especially in the off season where there is
- 4:57so many questions and there is so much dead time. Nice to just really
- 5:00try to increase that interaction piece. And oh, everybody, alread kind jump
- 5:04it through a little bit here. What's up Joe? Joe just finished his
- 5:06show on the cover one channel at seven thirty. It's called under review.
- 5:10You folks should check it out. Joe says, what's up? Show,
- 5:13nighbor, and then he says, I agree, Timmy needs to stop slacking
- 5:15off and start studying that playbook. Timmy's been a real jerk. You just
- 5:19don't see the commitment I think on the field or off the field. And
- 5:24honestly, when you look at the tape and then you look at the metrics,
- 5:26you're just not seeing the production. Yeah, Timmy has been a real
- 5:29disappointment. I'm pretty upset that they committed all that, you know, guaranteed
- 5:31money to him and just to put themselves in a real rough spot. Question
- 5:35here from John Roberts saying, who do you think will back up James Cook?
- 5:39That's a really good question. I talked about it on the show last
- 5:42week and then in the film room last week as well. If you're looking
- 5:45at the Bills roster right now, the three running backs they have on the
- 5:47roster are James Cook, Nahem Heinz, and Darrnton Evans. So there is
- 5:53a significant amount of snaps that are up for grab at that running back spot.
- 5:56James Cook in twenty twenty three saw fifty five percent of the snaps.
- 6:00We saw the Tavius Murray get work. We saw Damien Harris get work before
- 6:03he got hurt. We saw Ty Johnson emerge as the season went on.
- 6:09Honestly, you know, to kind of keep it simple. I do like
- 6:12the idea of Ty Johnson coming back. I think he was a really solid
- 6:15number two, runs behind his pads, gets north and south, has enough
- 6:18burst and juice and speed, was able to do some stuff in the past
- 6:21game. I'm cool with him coming back, especially at what you anticipate him
- 6:26costing, Like I don't know, a couple of mil two and a half,
- 6:28maybe one year deal, maybe a two tops, but real low investment.
- 6:32I like the idea of Naheim Hines in a Joe Brady led offense given
- 6:39Joe Brady's propensity falling apart already. We're only five minutes and I've stumbled over
- 6:44my first word. It's gonna be a rough night. I like the idea
- 6:46of Nahem Heines in the Bills offense, in a Joe Brady led offense,
- 6:49given his propensity for using running backs, especially in the past game. I
- 6:55think Naheim Heines a skill set and the electricity and juice that he played man
- 7:00that could be really fun, like a really fun piece in this Bill's offense.
- 7:02And then even as a runner, he's not bad as well. Right,
- 7:04I think he could be a solid number two. The issue is what
- 7:09he probably costs for the Buffalo Bills. I'm pulling up. I've got so
- 7:15many numbers in my head right now when I'm pulling up the positional spending for
- 7:19the Bills right now. It said on last week's show, but I can't
- 7:21remember it. Yeah, So you're looking at Naheim Heines right now. He's
- 7:24got a caphit this year of five point four eight million dollars. If the
- 7:27Bills outright cut him and just get rid of him, if they only have
- 7:30a dead cap at a five hundred thousand and they save four point nine mil
- 7:34four point nine eight So basically you can say five million dollars just by cutting
- 7:38Niheim. Heines, I'd like to approach him for a pay cut. If
- 7:41not, I'm okay with him going by by unfortunately. But as for who
- 7:46I think backs up James Cook. If I had put my money on anybody,
- 7:48I think it's Ti Johnson. I think he earned himself another opportunity here.
- 7:53I don't think he's going to be a name that is too highly sought
- 7:57after on the open market. I think he liked the U usage that he
- 8:00had here. Obviously Joe Brady liked him. He was an afterthought on this
- 8:03Bill's team until Joe Brady took over, and then all of a sudden became
- 8:07not a focal point but a legitimate piece in the offense. They're running pony
- 8:11personneut and he's blocking and doing some really cool stuff. So my money is
- 8:16on Ty Johnson, and I think that money will be efficiently spent. I
- 8:20also would like the idea of taking a running back in the draft. The
- 8:22Bills have so many Day three picks. I love throwing a Day three pick
- 8:26at a running back this year. Somebody who can be that RB three and
- 8:30b RB two next year. And I hate devaluing the running back position and
- 8:35talking about it in this manner, but you can honestly just take running backs
- 8:39like it's kind of like a dart throw position nowadays, where you just pick
- 8:43one out of the pile, and I don't know, you have like a
- 8:45I would almost say like a fifty to fifty shot of them becoming like an
- 8:48RB two or an RB one for a team, just with how things continue
- 8:50to develop. So my money right now is on Ty Johnson. I think
- 8:54he does come back. I think they approach Nahim Hines for a pay cut.
- 8:58I just can't see Nahem Heines staying on the Buffalo Bills this year with
- 9:03a caphit of five point four eight million dollars like him sitting there with a
- 9:05capit of five point five mil, knowing at best he's RB two. And
- 9:11again for reference, granted, James Cook is on his rookie deal and he
- 9:13was a Day two pick, but James Cook's cap hit this year is one
- 9:18point five to nine, so Cook at basically as a capit of one point
- 9:20six. Nahem Hines is a capit of five point five. Like, I
- 9:22just can't see a world, given how strapped the Bills are in the maneuvering
- 9:26they have to do. I cannot see a world where Naheim Heines stays on
- 9:28this roster at five point five. So he's either staying with a pay cut
- 9:33and Ty Johnson is coming in, or he's bouncing and Ti Johnson's coming in.
- 9:37Either way, I really think you're gonna see Ti Johnson in that fold
- 9:39somehow, some way. And to your point, John Robbert, Yeah,
- 9:43they could restructure or extend Hines for a season if not cut, they could.
- 9:46There's multiple things they could do. I just don't see. I don't
- 9:50see him staying at that five point five. Ooh like the comment heyer from
- 9:52Jefferson, aj Dillon if cheap to pair with Ti Johnson. You know,
- 9:56I always thought aj Dillon would click a bit more. I liked him more
- 9:58coming out of Boston College. I've had him every single year in fantasy.
- 10:03He's been like a goal line vulture at times. Whenever I've had Aaron Jones,
- 10:05he just has never seemed to click. I like him being as a
- 10:09true number two. A couple of years ago, he had a really good
- 10:11success rate in terms of short yardage conversion and some EPA metrics. I think
- 10:16he's worth a shot as well. Again, he's another running back that one
- 10:18year three mil, one year three point five, maybe depending on what you're
- 10:20looking at. It's really again a bunch of dart throws where you can make
- 10:24a case for a multitude of backs bringing in and then given James Cook's skill
- 10:28set, then you start looking at okay, like what do we pair him
- 10:31with? Do we get a complimentary piece? What kind of complimentary piece do
- 10:33we get? How do we rotate things like that? But so it's one
- 10:35of the few positions on this team that need addressing but can be addressed in
- 10:41like a fun, non stressful way. Oh, Titan come in and saying
- 10:48Groot has to step up. I wonder if he'll make an appearance on this
- 10:50show and on this list. That's fair JG's heying. I mean von Miller,
- 10:54that's who the Bills need more from. Is that too simple? Nope,
- 10:56it's not too simple. We're gonna talk about vond at some point in
- 11:00this episode. Low blow here on the comments saying Stefon Diggs not to drop
- 11:05a deep pass again. Yeah, I was unfortunate that one of the most
- 11:07sure handed dudes in the NFL dropped one, uh in a big time moment.
- 11:15I the moment says, I'm sorry. I the moment says, since
- 11:18the Williams, Darius Williams, Hughes, oh Man, what a front for
- 11:22Mario Williams, Marcel Darius, Kyle Williams, and Jerry Hughes, the old
- 11:26Cold Front? Since that Front four, which I rated a ten? What
- 11:30score have you given the d Line since the McBean era? Oh Man,
- 11:33This is a really good question. I don't know if I can answer this
- 11:35off the top of my head. At their best, if you're giving them
- 11:41a ten, that if you're giving that Cold Front a ten at their at
- 11:45the best. Probably when Vaughn was healthy, that twenty twenty two group,
- 11:52I would probably give like a nine eight and a half, nine eight to
- 11:56nine, somewhere in that range. Vaughn was cooking, was cooking, ed,
- 12:01looked good, Daikon Jones look good. I would give that grouping again.
- 12:05It was different like that was the Cold Front was more Front four reliant,
- 12:09whereas the twenty twenty two grouping had more rotation baked into it. But
- 12:13I would say that before Vaughn went down with the ACL in twenty twenty two.
- 12:18I think that group comes pretty close towards a tent, so probably,
- 12:20like it's tough for me to say a group is like perfect, and I
- 12:22don't think that group was. I don't even know if I break the cold
- 12:24front at ten. But since you're giving him a ten, I'll probably give
- 12:28that twenty twenty two grouping before Vaughn went down. Yeah, probably like a
- 12:31solid eight to a nine. Daniel saying Hines with the discount could be interesting
- 12:35situationally. Absolutely, Roy is all about a pay cut for Nahem Heines if
- 12:39he stays. Jayg says, do you think the Bills counter those heavy sets?
- 12:46Heavier sets they struggled with at times with more three linebacker packages? So
- 12:50this is something this conversing, not necessarily your question in general, but some
- 12:54of the narratives that are going out about this piece. The Bills were already
- 12:58starting to do this before all the injuries happened at linebacker. When Milana was
- 13:01healthy, they were bringing in Tyrol Dodson to be a third linebacker against heavier
- 13:07sets, So it'd be Dodson, it would be Bernard, and it would
- 13:09be Milano. And then even when Milana went down, it was Dodson and
- 13:13Bernard, and they would bring in Dorian Williams. And then even when things
- 13:18weren't looking great with Dorian Williams, what game was it down the stretch,
- 13:20they brought in Bablan Spector as the third linebacker. The Bills were already starting
- 13:24to work in more three linebacker packages this year. They were not a granted,
- 13:28they're always going to be a nickel dominant defense. I don't see that
- 13:31changing anytime soon, but they were already starting to work in more three linebacker
- 13:35sets this year, in twenty twenty three, before Milana went down, and
- 13:39then even after Milana went down. I think a lot of this conversation for
- 13:41a lot of people, not saying that this is where it stems for you,
- 13:45JG. But a lot of this conversation I think stems from the game
- 13:48against the Chiefs and the playoffs, them going heavier and the Bills kind of
- 13:52really being put in a bind with what they had defensively and then being run
- 13:56all over the place. And the conversation goes to two things. It goes
- 14:01to man aj clin is offull, why I wasn't Dorian Williams in there?
- 14:03And then the other side of that conversation is why do they stay in nickel?
- 14:07Why not have more three linebacker sets. I think the reason they didn't
- 14:09in that game was just because how banged up they were at that position.
- 14:13The fact that they were the fact that they were no disrespect to Ajklin.
- 14:18The fact that they were starting AJ Klein in a divisional round against the Chiefs,
- 14:20considering he was ready to take his family on vacation like four or five
- 14:24weeks prior, is absolutely wild. Like that tells you how dire the situation
- 14:28was for the Bills linebacking court. I think if the Bills, obviously,
- 14:33if they're one hundred percent, if mlone's good to go and Bernard is good
- 14:35to go, But even if Bernard was good to go, I think you
- 14:37see more three linebacker sets in that game against the Chiefs. I think you
- 14:41see more Bernard Dodson. And granted Dotson was banged up as well with his
- 14:43shoulder, but if Bernard was healthy in that game against the Chiefs, I
- 14:46think you see more Bernard Dotson AJ Clin sets. I think that's what you
- 14:52see. I can actually consider doing an episode on this, but I thought
- 14:58I didn't think it was there was enough juice to it, or me to
- 15:00it to do an entire episode on it. But the Bills already started working
- 15:03in more three linebacker packages earlier in the season. It just happened to be
- 15:07that their linebacking core got decimated with injuries, and then in the biggest game
- 15:11of the year against the Chiefs, that decimated grouping was exploited by the Chiefs.
- 15:16And I really think if they were just a little bit healthier, I'm
- 15:18not even saying completely healthy, if they were just a little bit healthier at
- 15:20linebacker, I think you would have seen more three linebacker sets. I think
- 15:24it was just unfortunate timing given the matchup and given all the injuries that they
- 15:28had who net Flanders says Dorsey's offense was supposed to be difficult to learn.
- 15:33Will Brady run a complicated offense? Can they simplify with the likelihood that will
- 15:37have a few new faces at the skills, Yeah, I think it'll be.
- 15:41I don't think any offense is simplistic, but I think you'll see less
- 15:45choice based options in the Bills offense this year. I think you'll see some
- 15:50choice concepts like Khalio Shakir does a great job running their choice concept out of
- 15:54a two by two look had a lot of success this year off of it.
- 15:56I think you'll still see some choice elements and let me backtrack to like
- 16:00I think that's the reason Brady's offense was so difficult is because there was so
- 16:04much read and react built into the route concepts and what they were doing offensively.
- 16:10It was very much like, Okay, go out. If your guy
- 16:14does this, you do that. If he does that, you do this.
- 16:15Hey, Josh, this route concept over here can beat this coverage.
- 16:19This route concept over here can beat this other coverage. On the snap,
- 16:22read the coverage, figure out what side you need to go to. Now,
- 16:26there are advantages to that, like when that works, it's indefensible,
- 16:30like a true option based, choice based read and react offense, like a
- 16:33defense cannot stop because you are literally you are literally running plays and running routes
- 16:40and concepts based off of what the defense is doing. So they're damned if
- 16:42they do damned if they don't. But again that you have to be really
- 16:45on point when you're doing that, like timing, reading what's happening, and
- 16:49the accuracy of r at the receivers and or the pass catchers and the quarterback
- 16:53being on the same page. I think that's where it was so complicated in
- 16:56that aspect. I think Brady's will be more stream I think it'll be more
- 17:00of a progression based offense, more of you know, hey, we're calling
- 17:03this play to beat this coverage. Here's your one, here's your two,
- 17:06here's your three. This is where your eyes go, this is your outlet
- 17:08or your checkdown, so on and so forth. So I think Brady's offense
- 17:11will be more streamlined, I should say, And yeah, I think they
- 17:15can simplify with the likelihood they'll have a few new faces at the skill position.
- 17:18And I think whoever they get at the skill position, given the fact
- 17:22that Stefan Diggs will be here, and Dalkin Cat will be here, and
- 17:25Khalil Shakir will be here, and James Cook and the pieces that are there,
- 17:30whoever is a new face that comes into this offense. Offense isn't suddenly
- 17:33going to be like, hey, we need you to produce immediately. Like
- 17:37whoever they bring in as a wide receiver this year, even if it's a
- 17:40high draft pick, that guy's not coming in. Even if they got Marvin
- 17:42Harrison Junior, is then gonna come in, They're gonna be like, hey
- 17:45man, we need you to put up twelve hundred yards and ten touchdowns like
- 17:48right away this year. Now, he might do that because he's so good,
- 17:51but that I don't think that expectation or that plateload is going to be
- 17:53put upon anyone given the rest of the offensive components that the Bills had,
- 17:59So I do think it'll be more simplified, But I don't want to say
- 18:02simplified. I just want to say more streamlined than what doors he had.
- 18:08But JG saying, yeah, personnel determines a lot of this on the defensive
- 18:12side. That's what I'm curious to see if they were signed. Terrell Dodson.
- 18:15I think Dodson had a better year than really anybody thought. I know,
- 18:18he was like him going into the lineup. Everybody like was kind of
- 18:21closing the covering their eyes and batting down the hatches type of thing. But
- 18:23he had a good year, especially against the run. Titans saying that game
- 18:26because the chief should be thrown in the trash. The linebackers were all hurt.
- 18:30It's not a good barometer. I completely completely agree Jeffery's saying a three
- 18:37three five defense against the pass. Can they do it if you're talking about
- 18:38personnel, sure, if you're talking about an alignment, like a stack alignment
- 18:41where you've got like a like three down and it's like a four eye a
- 18:45nose and a four eye and then three behind it. I hate that kind
- 18:48of defense. It's just so hard to make it work consistently. So I
- 18:52don't think that'll happen about personnel A sure, potentially, Joe saying, I
- 18:56think Root's best play as a pass rushers in front of him. It feels
- 18:57like he begins to put it together quite consistently before some injury kills his momentum.
- 19:02I hope he can stay healthy. I hope that too. I hope
- 19:04that too. Actually, we're gonna have a conversation about that as we go
- 19:08forward. Titan saying Bernard Malano and Williams would be great two cover linebackers.
- 19:11An attack on machine that would be great. I still don't get where everybody's
- 19:17hype is coming. I don't want to get too sidetracked before getting into it.
- 19:18But like the love and I'm not saying you're doing this, Titan,
- 19:22but the love for Dorry and Williams, like, and I get it,
- 19:23he's fast, and he's athletic, and he's rangey, and he plays through
- 19:27the tackle point at players right, he looks good. He's jack, he's
- 19:32cut up. I get it. He was just so lost mentally in twenty
- 19:36twenty three, and again I think that was expected, Like he wasn't supposed
- 19:38to see any raps. He was super green. I talked about it on
- 19:41the show and on Twitter a million times with how simplistic the defense was that
- 19:45he came from at Tulane and how hard it was going to be for him
- 19:47to adjust. I think it'll be awesome if Dorny Williams is ready to be
- 19:51like linebacker three this year. I just still think it's a lot to ask
- 19:53of him, and I'm not ready to put him on the field until I
- 19:56see that he cannot be a liability mentally. It goes to the conversation too
- 20:00with AJ Klein playing as much against the Chiefs and everybody talking about all he
- 20:03was so slow and you know he couldn't move out there, get Dorian out
- 20:07there. I think it was six to one, half a dozen of the
- 20:10other Like AJ Klein did not have what it took athletically, but mentally he
- 20:15did Dorrian Williams had what it took athletically, but did not have what it
- 20:18took mentally. So it's kind of like, Okay, do you want to
- 20:21get beat with foot speed or do you want to get beat mentally? Like
- 20:23either way you're gying, Like I don't know which is the better way to
- 20:26get beat. Yeah, so oh spin echo in some thoughts. You know,
- 20:33we put all our money on our defense, and our defense is what
- 20:34ends up letting us down in the playoffs. Time to invest in the offense.
- 20:37Yeah, but I think this season is a bit rough, right with
- 20:38all the injuries, like and they got hit like they got like the plague
- 20:42on defense. I think this season is a bit unfair to judge them off
- 20:47of that. Again, injuries keep coming through, Like it's not like the
- 20:52guys they're bringing in are performing poorly. It's that, you know, guys
- 20:56they're bringing in or getting hurt or the core guys are getting hurt. So
- 20:59it's it's rough. Oh. I don't want to get too much in this.
- 21:03Justin Bill's Lego says Davis was not good at choice routes. I kind
- 21:06of disagree with this, actually that kind of I do job the big miscommunications
- 21:11that happened between Allen and Davis this year, the one against Philly, also
- 21:15the one where Davis is running wide open against the Chiefs. Those are on
- 21:19Josh Allen. Uh not gave Davis granted, I think you should be on
- 21:23the same page regardless, So like it is a bit on both. But
- 21:27if I had to put the blame on one more than the other, it's
- 21:30on Josh Allen. But yeah, fair, fair, fair. I had
- 21:34a moment saying, thanks for your answer. I just feel our ability to
- 21:37disrupt the passer is the key factor for improvement. I completely agree, completely,
- 21:41completely agree. Yeah, Dodson was okay, struggled in space absolutely absolutely,
- 21:47Oh Patrick saying put Bryce Huff opposite of Russo and watch them create chaos.
- 21:51Yeah, Bryce Huff has been doing some wild things, justin saying,
- 21:56how do you know it's on Allen based off of their rule rules for They're
- 22:02like those miscommunication pieces aren't necessarily choice based as much as they are reading the
- 22:08defense and reading the leverage based. And there are certain rules that they have
- 22:14baked into those scenarios based off of what they saw, and Davis followed those
- 22:21rules and Alan kind of thought something else was going to happen. Again,
- 22:25It's not like Alan made this horrible choice of Oh my god, I can't
- 22:29believe he made that decision, like he just thought a was going to happen.
- 22:32Gabe was like, no, I'm going to stick to the rule and
- 22:33do this. The Philly one is the really good example, right, like
- 22:36they just they're slightly off. Alan saw where the space was figured, Gabe
- 22:41was going to go to the space. Gabe saw the leverage and just followed
- 22:44the rules and then just kind of went with what it was. That's why
- 22:48I think I put it more on Alan because at the end of the day,
- 22:51follow the rule. But I also understand him kind of seeing it more
- 22:53in the moment and being like, oh well yeah, but like let's read
- 22:57it out and a just type of thing, which is also kind of goes
- 23:00back to my first point of the whole choice based option and offense, where
- 23:04if it works, like again, you can't defend it because no matter what
- 23:07the defender does, you're reading it in the moment boom. But all it
- 23:11takes is the slightest disconnect between receiver and quarterback and routes and options that are
- 23:15wide open going complete and big things are missed. So that's kind of just
- 23:19where it comes down from. Oh, no, where it's justin saying I'm
- 23:22not disputing you know better than me, just wondering. No, Absolutely,
- 23:23I love the question. That's awesome. I also have, you know,
- 23:26kind of some connections that confirm those pieces as well. But yet it just
- 23:30comes down to like the rule based versus kind of seeing it and letting it
- 23:33play out in real time, and then the disconnect between those two things.
- 23:37But it's understandable. All right, all right, let's oh I go.
- 23:44This sentiment from Jamal saying, defensive tackle is my main concern. We need
- 23:47to help ed all around the D line and get other qbs uncomfortable in the
- 23:49pocket. I completely agree. I don't I don't even want to talk about
- 23:53defensive line, especially defensive tackle anymore this off season because I've talked about it
- 23:56so much, and safety to a degree as well, and every a majority
- 24:00of people just want wide receivers and they keep yelling at me for wanting anything
- 24:03other than wide receivers. So but I'm right there with you, Jamal,
- 24:06defensive tackle is scary at least, even if you have questions about Vaughan,
- 24:11at least at edge, it's Groot and Von. On the interior, it's
- 24:15just Ed and I. And then if you depending on how you view Cameron
- 24:18Klin as a defensive tackle or an edge even if you view him as defensive
- 24:19tackle, Okay, cool, it's Ed, Oliver Ile and Cameron Klein.
- 24:23Like how good do you feel? And I say that to somebody who likes
- 24:26Ilanku. Yeah, it's it's rough on the interior. No, appreciate you,
- 24:32justin thanks for asking the question and thanks for being here. I I
- 24:34appreciate you. Good, good conversation. Well, I guess conversation with myself
- 24:37and response to your questions, but yeah, I appreciate you. Hell yeah.
- 24:41Titans saying how much do you want Sweat in the draft to Andandre Sweat,
- 24:44defensive tackle from Texas, I don't know, because I like what he
- 24:48represents. I'm always just wary of dudes at that size and how much of
- 24:51a three down piece they can be. Not that his pass rush is terrible,
- 24:56Like he's got a quick armover. Was trying to fix my camera here.
- 24:59He's got like a quick armover that he uses and he flashes at times.
- 25:02Not to mention, you can push the pocket and kind of wear dudes
- 25:03down. He's not my preferred option, but I would take him given how
- 25:10And this is going to sound disrespectful to him, and I don't mean it
- 25:11this way, but I would gladly take him given how desperate I am for
- 25:15reinforcements at the defensive tackle position. Justin saying, what do you think the
- 25:19odds are we re signed Daiquon? Ooh, I feel like sixty percent ballpark.
- 25:26He likes it here, he's a good fit, he likes Marcus West,
- 25:30who's the new defensive line coach. I don't think it's going to break
- 25:34the bank to keep him. The biggest thing, the biggest to turn I
- 25:37think to Daiquon not signing, is some other team just offering him a bunch
- 25:42more money. I truly think. Again, I've said it before, I'll
- 25:45say it again. I really think Daiquon was on an all Pro path at
- 25:48defensive tackle before he got hurt this year. What he was doing against the
- 25:52run and against the pass was absolutely tremendous on tape and from an advanced metrics
- 25:56standpoint. But given the age, I don't think some team is and also
- 26:00him having some injuries back to back years, I don't think some team out
- 26:03there is going to offer him a contract that's going to blow the Bills out
- 26:06of the water. So I think whatever he gets offered in free agency,
- 26:10the Bills will be able to compete with. It's just a matter of you
- 26:15know, how much do some team outbid the Bills? Do the Bills care
- 26:18to match? But I think at the worst case, they're in the conversation.
- 26:22But given how much he likes the culture here, the team here,
- 26:25the fit, the city, the fact that they're a good football team,
- 26:27I think the odds are pretty high. What else, we got a bunch
- 26:37of things coming in justin saying for me, I just want to put resources
- 26:40into the offense. I get it. I understand it's a fair point too,
- 26:41especially with how much they've done for defense and they still can't get over
- 26:45the hump. Like I understand the notion Jamal saying thank you for answering the
- 26:48question. No, thank you for asking the question, and thank you for
- 26:49being here. I appreciate it. Man. Sometimes I always think like I
- 26:52should just do an episode purely like questions and answers live in the chat,
- 26:56and then I wouldn't haveter prepare any notes. It'd be easy it could just
- 26:57hit go live and just answer questions, but I'm always afraid of what the
- 27:00live viewership will be, especially in the dead time of the off season.
- 27:03But this is going really well. JG mentions some people who need to step
- 27:10up, but that's the conversation is going to come in a little bit,
- 27:15justin saying about day one, Yes, he was doing really well beginning of
- 27:18the season. Do you think he is the first free agent we prioritize.
- 27:19Absolutely. I think he's the from free agents that are like from the Bills.
- 27:25Yeah, I think he's priority number one. I had of Floyd,
- 27:26I ahead of Epanessa gave Davis I think is gone. You know, his
- 27:30stuff on social media today all but confirmed it. Yeah, I think daik
- 27:34One is priority number one. Absolutely. That's where John Roberts saying Daiquon also
- 27:40likes Bobby Babbage, new DC for the Bills spin saying question, was there
- 27:42a difference in dake onon Jones's play before and after the injury, and if
- 27:47so, by how much? Yeah, I just it's hard to quantify it.
- 27:52I just know as soon as I see a dude come back from injury
- 27:55and they're wearing some sort of supportive piece to that injured area. I just
- 28:02assume they're not completely one hundred percent, and if you're not one hundred percent,
- 28:04there's going to be a dip in your play. The first I don't
- 28:08think he did against the Chiefs, but I know the first couple of games
- 28:11back, yeah, he had he was wearing you could see like that kind
- 28:15of the sleeve coming out a little bit. I think he was wearing some
- 28:18kind of rap or protective piece to kind of keep his shoulder from extending too
- 28:21much and putting too much strain on his peck. I don't know how to
- 28:25quantify it, but you could tell that he just didn't have that he wasn't
- 28:27one hundred percent and he didn't have that burst and that you know, muscle
- 28:32twitch and necessarily the strength in that piece as well. What else? God,
- 28:37I like this, Roy says, well, Cody finished the story.
- 28:40Absolutely, he has to finish the story. I would have bet money that
- 28:42he would have beat Roman reigns last year. He didn't find they're pushing it
- 28:45to this year. He has to, like, especially after all the stuff
- 28:49that was rumored of. You know, the rock it was supposed to be
- 28:52rocking Roman and it came out of nowhere, but then they adjusted it because
- 28:55of all the fan backlash, Like he has to unless they really want to
- 28:57build Roman as the greatest champion of all time, which I don't think they
- 29:00necessarily have the incentive to anymore. Cody has to finish the story, right
- 29:04he in today's wrestling landscape, the fact that a true like white meat Babyface
- 29:10is that over in wrestling. He has to. Absolutely. But again,
- 29:14I thought he would beat Roman last year and he didn't, So I don't
- 29:17know. It's wild. It's wild. Oh justin you're not a fan of
- 29:21the Roman and Rock match, Yeah, it wouldn't have been great. I
- 29:22just don't think the Rock can go for that long in a main event.
- 29:25He gets tired cutting a promo. You can tell how winded he is.
- 29:27He's all sweating and hot. Wild. All right, let us move on.
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- 30:17and ears. Now for the audio only people, I'm gonna take a drink
- 30:19and then we're gonna get a pop. Okay, there was my drink.
- 30:26Man. That's probably the hardest thing in just doing pure solo episode, just
- 30:30trying to put in the water breaks, especially like a night like this where
- 30:32I'm extremely thirsty, man, absolutely wild. All right, I'm gonna throw
- 30:37out the banner here for who needs to step up for the bills. In
- 30:40twenty twenty four. I've seen several answers come through already, and some of
- 30:45them are on my list in this episode, but I'm gonna start with one
- 30:48that, like I mentioned, I don't think is oh real quick, let
- 30:55me grab this from Lawrence Laurence or Charles says Lawrence. Guy. I don't
- 30:57think he's a scheme fit for the Bills. I think he's more of an
- 31:00odd front type of dude, like a four I four, like a defensive
- 31:03end in a three to four, rather than a defensive end or defensive tackle
- 31:07in a four to three like the Bills run. Okay, So this first
- 31:11piece that I have, first person that I have of who needs to step
- 31:14up. Ooh, somebody justin says McDermott, is one that I don't think
- 31:18is being talked about enough, and some of it is injury based with how
- 31:22it goes through. But this name is, especially with the conversation surrounding the
- 31:29offense and talking about wide receivers and weapons and supporting Allen and supporting Allen.
- 31:34I'm surprised this person hasn't come under more fire. There's been a little smoke
- 31:40for this person, but I thought there'd be more fire around this and Troy
- 31:42absolutely nailed it. It is Dawson Knox. Yes, everybody knows. Johnny's
- 31:47saying Knox, just saying Knox, Charles saying Knox. Absolutely, Mister Dawson
- 31:52Knox. The current contract that he's on, I think really is what even
- 31:59if he wasn't on this contract, his production has not been up the snuff.
- 32:01And we're gonna get into the production, We're gonna get in the usage.
- 32:04We're gonna have that whole conversation around Dawson Knox. But the contract and
- 32:08the return on investment since he signed that four year, fifty two million dollar
- 32:12extension really or contract really puts a strain on him when it comes to or
- 32:19puts extra eyes on him, puts him under the microscope further soul for his
- 32:22contract. Right now, Dawson Knox, total value he's paid as tight end
- 32:28seven in the NFL, average annual value he's paid as tight and nine,
- 32:32and total guarantees he's paid as tight end seven. Now, the tight end
- 32:37landscape isn't necessarily loaded. I think there's a fair probably I don't know,
- 32:44top five, top six ish of who the tight ends are in the NFL.
- 32:49But when you look at like let's look at it from a total value
- 32:52standpoint again, where Dawson Knox is sitting seventh. Ahead of him is George
- 32:58Kittle, TJ. Hockinson, Travis Kelsey, Dallas Goddard, Mark Andrews,
- 33:01David and Joku, and then there's Dawson Knox. Behind him are Darren Waller,
- 33:05Cole kmet Evan Ingram, Taysom Hill. Just funny that he classified as
- 33:08a tight end hunter, Henry Kyle Pitts who is still on his rookie deal,
- 33:14Logan Thomas c j Uzama, will Disley, Hayden Hurst, Josh Oliver
- 33:17or Tyler Conklin, and then going down further with more rookie guys and guys
- 33:22on second deals. And so it's not like he's grossly overpaid, because there's
- 33:27another like four or five tight ends that are better than him, but just
- 33:30given where he sits, what his contract standing is again paid total value tight
- 33:35end seven, average annual value tight end nine, total guarantees tight end seven.
- 33:39And then what's also rough is when you look at what his contract situation
- 33:46is in terms of the amount of money that is committed to him and where
- 33:51that slots in for the bills he has the fifth highest cap hit in twenty
- 33:54twenty four for the Buffalo Bills, behind only Josh Allen at one, Stefan
- 33:59Digs at two, Von Miller at three, Dehon Dawkins, and Trey White.
- 34:01Now there's been injuries to Trey and Von Miller, which complicates obviously that
- 34:06top five a little bit. But what you've had from a production standpoint,
- 34:10and again, production is not everything, which we were going to talk about.
- 34:14The air production, I should say, is not indicative of not necessarily
- 34:16indicative of execution and ability. I want to put that out there. I'm
- 34:21going to say that a bunch here. But when you look at the production
- 34:23that he's had, the fact that he's sitting there with the I'm sorry,
- 34:28six highest cap hit behind Alan Diggs, Von Dawkins, and Trey White,
- 34:31because those are five he would make six. The fact that he's sitting there
- 34:34in that conversation with the sixth highest cap hit on this team given what he's
- 34:37done, is a little wild. So let's go through some of the numbers
- 34:42his twenty twenty three stats, including the playoffs, and now, again,
- 34:45this was a year where he spent some time on the IR. He played
- 34:49in fourteen of nineteen games. He had ristsurgery after the Week seven loss to
- 34:53the New England Patriots. He banged up his wrists. I don't know if
- 34:55they ever confirmed what exactly the injury was, but he had ristsurgery, played
- 34:59a lit banged up before that. It seems like year after year he's always
- 35:01kind of banged up, which is unfortunate. And I see some of you
- 35:05folks putting that in the conversation, like the injury piece, like, yeah,
- 35:08it's unfortunate. And I don't like judging a guy who's been playing banged
- 35:13up or who's been two injured to kind of produce at the level he can.
- 35:15But the whole point is he just hasn't played up the snuff as a
- 35:20starting tight end, especially what he's paid given the tight end landscape, and
- 35:23then even more so considering where his contract ranks for the Bill. So twenty
- 35:27twenty three, his stats, including the playoffs twenty four catches on thirty eight
- 35:31targets. Both of those are the lowest of his career. One hundred and
- 35:35ninety nine receiving yards also the lowest of his career. Three touchdowns the second
- 35:39lowest of his career. He didn't have a game all season with more than
- 35:43three catches. His highest receiving yards in any individual game was thirty six.
- 35:47Again, he spent time on injured reserve after having reris surgery following Week seven,
- 35:52but before the injury again when he played in seven games twenty seven targets,
- 35:58fourteen catches, one hundred and two yards, one touchdown in those seven
- 36:02games before the injury. Drops also became an issue for him again in twenty
- 36:06twenty three. After lowering his drop percentage every year since his rookie season,
- 36:10his drop percentage rose from eight point two percent in twenty twenty two to fourteen
- 36:15point three percent in twenty twenty three. It just seems like from a drop
- 36:17perspective, I know he's gotten better, but whether it's in quantity or just
- 36:22high leverage situations, it just seems like you can never fully rely on him
- 36:27to make a grab. One minute he's making some spectacular catch, the next
- 36:30minute he's dropping one that's thrown right into his numbers, or one that's a
- 36:34little off frame that he should come down with. He doesn't just quite batl
- 36:36out Allen, but sometimes he does. He's just kind of this rollercoastery wildcard
- 36:40when it comes to reliability from a hands perspective. Now, if we look
- 36:45at his contract, and this is a huge piece that I wanted to get
- 36:47into as well, because there's been some inaccuracies about his contracts spread on Twitter,
- 36:54which I mean, surprise it's Twitter. But I want to show my
- 37:00I screen here. Let's pull this out here. Share the screen, Share
- 37:07the screen, Share Share share share the screen. Okay, there we go.
- 37:09Boom. So we're looking at Dawson Knox's contract right now. What we
- 37:15have for our friends here on disguy's coverage is the breakdown shown his twenty twenty
- 37:21two, twenty three, twenty four, twenty five, twenty six. Now,
- 37:22if you literally look at this line here, the bolden line, the
- 37:25embolden line here, that's twenty twenty four. Look at his dead cap at
- 37:29you're not going anywhere, So you can save ten point four million with a
- 37:36post June first trade, but you're still incurring a significant amount of dead cap.
- 37:39And then look at everyone else. If you release him after June.
- 37:42First look at the dead cap that twenty point two mil. The trading him
- 37:45before June. First, look at the dead cab versus the savings releasing him.
- 37:50Look at the literally in the negative. But it's just not an option
- 37:52that he's going to go anywhere this year, so and I don't, nor
- 37:55do I think he should. Also, he doesn't have any like value,
- 37:58like what are you trading him for, like after the year he just finished
- 38:00with, Like you're not getting anything. Now, potentially releasing him in twenty
- 38:05twenty five becomes more palatable. He has a dead cap hit of seven point
- 38:08eight mil in twenty twenty five, and again if you release him or trade
- 38:12him pre June first, all that dead cap hits that twenty twenty five season.
- 38:15If you release or trade him after June first, you see how you
- 38:20can split that dead cap up in terms of, you know, spreading it
- 38:23out over the two years, so instead of seven point eight in one year,
- 38:27it's three point nine and three point nine spread over two. But again
- 38:30still that ideal you're saving eleven point five to encur a dead cap of seven
- 38:32point eight twenty twenty six is really where the true benefit or the true out
- 38:37is, despite the fact that spot track is telling you there's potential out in
- 38:40twenty twenty five, which again I guess there is, but the dead capit
- 38:44is just more significant. Look at what you get in twenty twenty six.
- 38:46You could cut him or trade him before June first. Dead cap is basically
- 38:52four You save twelve mil if you release him or trade him after June first,
- 38:57same exact thing. So if they decide they want to cut in twenty
- 39:00twenty six via trade or release pre June first, post June first, it
- 39:04does not matter. They only have a dead cap hit of about four mil,
- 39:07and they have a savings of about twelve So I don't think he's going
- 39:10anywhere until at the earliest twenty twenty six. But again, there is a
- 39:15chance that he's out in twenty twenty five, given what the dead cap hit
- 39:20looks like and given what these savings look like. In that regard and in
- 39:23that manner now, I say that to say this piece as of right now,
- 39:29I legitimately think you could make the case that this could be Dawson Knox's
- 39:32final year as a Buffalo Bill or his second last year as a Buffalo Bill.
- 39:37Dalton Kinkaid came in as a rookie in twenty twenty three and translated almost
- 39:43seamlessly into the Buffalo Bill's offense. He was also playing banged up throughout the
- 39:45year, as well, not to kind of make it seem worse for Knox,
- 39:49but whatever, and the way Kinkaid operates his skill set, his fit,
- 39:53I think it's I don't want to say pretty easy, but I think
- 39:58it's a pretty concrete statement to make to say that he's already a better pass
- 40:02catcher than Dawson Knox's. Dawson Knox still remains the better blocker, and there
- 40:07is value to his game when you pair his blocking ability with his athleticism,
- 40:13with what he's capable of as a pass catcher, but again with what he's
- 40:16paid to be on this team. He has the sixth highest cap at behind
- 40:21Josh Allen, Stefon Diggs, Von Miller, Deon Dawkins, and Tradevius White.
- 40:25His return on investment for that four year, fifty two million dollar contract
- 40:30is not looking good coming out of twenty twenty three. Now we scale it
- 40:32back right, let's go to twenty twenty two and twenty twenty one. Those
- 40:36seasons were not awful for him. He had over six hundred receiving yards each
- 40:38season, seven touchdowns in twenty twenty two, eleven in twenty twenty one,
- 40:44his highest career receptions in a season came in both those seasons, same amount,
- 40:47fifty six catches in twenty twenty two, fifty six catches in twenty twenty
- 40:51one. But again, is that really like, Okay, six hundred yards
- 40:57in fifty six catches, is that worth the contract that he has? Given
- 41:01what you have with that's the ceiling right now, Like that's what he's achieved.
- 41:06Is that worth his contract? Given Duncan, Kid, given Colio,
- 41:08Shakir, James Cook, Stefon Diggs, whatever wide receiver too they bring in
- 41:13in the draft or free agency, anything and everything. It feels like a
- 41:16lot of the conversation with Knocks every offseason, it feels like we're still waiting
- 41:21for him to reach his potential. It feels like we're still talking about him
- 41:24in terms of trajectory instead of terms of him being a known quantity, which
- 41:30is fair to agree given how raw he was coming out of Ole miss and
- 41:34him having to learn how to play tight end on the fly in the NFL.
- 41:37But at a certain point, unfortunately, it just has to come down
- 41:40to the brass tacks of it and he has to start producing relative to his
- 41:45contract. Now, Like I said earlier, schematics definitely come into play.
- 41:49I was a loud voice in the twenty twenty two season in terms of him
- 41:53being open more than he was targeted, and I think a lot of that
- 41:59came down to Josh Allen, like he'd be open underneath and Allen's going elsewhere.
- 42:01Now, some of that is tied to the Dorsey offense, some of
- 42:04that is tied to Josh Allen's injuries, some of that is tied to what
- 42:06the defense was doing to force the fall into certain areas and force Allen to
- 42:10make low percentage throws. But he was open more than he was targeted in
- 42:15twenty twenty two. So again, like I said earlier, production isn't always
- 42:19indicative of execution or ability, but either way, something needs to turn In
- 42:23twenty twenty four, Ford for Darson Knocks for Dawson Knox. I think there
- 42:28are parts of his game where he is an individual and needs to see improvement.
- 42:31Again. I know his overall drops in terms of quantity weren't bad last
- 42:36year with four, but that drop percentage being fourteen point three, it just
- 42:38seems like even though he's gotten better, there's still that inconsistency. And even
- 42:43in the years where his drop percentage was lowering which he did every year after
- 42:45his rookie year. There'd be a big third down that he'd drop, or
- 42:50you know, nice completion downfield that would hit him right in the midst and
- 42:52he'd dropped. It. Just seemed like it was never holistically complete or there
- 42:57so again, either way, something needs to turn four for him. His
- 43:00hands are an issue still. I think the route running for him and tying
- 43:06this into him still not completely using his athleticism and size to win in his
- 43:12route stems or at his breaks. I still think he could do a better
- 43:15job utilizing his size, his frame, and his athleticism to win more than
- 43:20he does. And then along with that just him needing to be featured more
- 43:24in the Bills offense. And that's where a lot of the conversation starts to
- 43:29shift, when you start to really put him into terms of where he fits
- 43:32on this offense. So much of the conversation this offseason has been around wide
- 43:37receiver too, and getting a wide receiver, getting a wide receiver, getting
- 43:39a wide receiver, and you know, okay, I want man if the
- 43:43Bills are trade for Romo dunes A man, I really want Jalen polk Man.
- 43:47I really want the Bills of trade up for neighbors. Man, I
- 43:51really want Brian Thomas or Troy Franklin, any of these receivers in the draft
- 43:53or again going in free agency, Man, Curtis Samuel will all be awesome
- 43:58if the Bills could give Michael Pittman junior and so forth. So much of
- 44:00the conversation has been getting a wide receiver too. But on your roster you
- 44:06have Stefan Diggs, You have a first round receiving tight end, and then
- 44:09you have the seventh highest paid tight end in football who has the sixth highest
- 44:13capet for your team in twenty twenty four. Yes, you do need a
- 44:15legitimate wide receiver too, but you should be in a better conversation from a
- 44:21weapons standpoint than you are considering Diggs, Kincaid Knox, and then the emergence
- 44:28of Khalios Shakir and in James Cook, and then factoring that all in in
- 44:31terms of a weapon standpoint and who's getting the ball standpoint. Knox seems to
- 44:37be consistently left out of the conversation amongst fans and even like content, and
- 44:42I think that says a lot and even just for everybody who's you know,
- 44:45playing at home in the chat here, Where do you rank Dawson Knox in
- 44:49terms of guys on the offense you want having the ball. I'm not just
- 44:52talking about a pass catcher. I'm talking about in general, like as a
- 44:54runner, as you know, because factor in James Cook and the conversation,
- 44:58pass catcher, running the football, anything and everything. Where does Dawson Knox
- 45:01rank for you in terms of guys from the offense you want having the ball?
- 45:06At best, I feel like he's fourth, but probably fifth. You've
- 45:08got Stefan Diggs, Dalton Kin, Kaid Khalil Shakir, and then is it
- 45:13Dawson Knox or is it James Cook? And then it's Dawson Knox. Because
- 45:16again I'm not talking just receiving, I mean purely getting the ball in some
- 45:21form or fashion. Who on the offense aside from Josh Allen do you want
- 45:24the ball to be in their hands on the offense Because again, in that
- 45:29sense, I think Cook is ahead of Knox. So at best, Dawson
- 45:30Knox is fifth, and that is without adding any wide receivers this offseason,
- 45:36and depending on who they add, does that push him down even further?
- 45:40See them even some of the yep, see Pickens the Buffalo saying fifth either
- 45:45moment say mid tier option, Jeffrey saying five to six pick and saying Cook
- 45:49over him. And so again that's that kind of conversation, right if you
- 45:52already have if he's already the fifth option or the sixth option. For me,
- 45:57again, I think he's fifth. I'd rather get it to Diggs,
- 46:00Kincaid, Shakir Cook. And then Knox say they do get another receiver,
- 46:07say they get I'm just throwing out names in the draft, Say they take
- 46:08Troy Franklin or Xavier Worthy or Brian Thomas. Does that push him down to
- 46:15sixth? Do they get another really fun receiver in the third round or the
- 46:19fourth round? And does that push him down to seventh? Like the value
- 46:22just has not been there for Dawson Knox into roups comment here, Yeah,
- 46:28the Knox has been a useful guy in the red zone. He did have
- 46:30those eleven touchdowns in twenty twenty two, granted a bunch of them. He
- 46:35had some explosive plays generated in that as well. But it's just it's so
- 46:39rough for a guy who's got like kind of more of a niche value and
- 46:43then thinking where he functions and funnels into this offense in the larger conversation,
- 46:47and I think he needs to step up in twenty twenty four just because I
- 46:52think his usage is potentially fading in terms of him being something more than just
- 46:57like like right now again Dalton Kinkaid. And this isn't necessarily a knock against
- 47:00Knox because Kincaid is very good and fits very well in this offense. But
- 47:06already, just seeing how twenty twenty three went, you have a tight end
- 47:13who's paid to be a top ten tight end and isn't even the best tight
- 47:15end on his football team right now. So, especially from a pass catching
- 47:20standpoint, So are you paying Dawson Knox, you know, your sixth highest
- 47:24CAPPT in twenty twenty four, to be a good blocking tight end? Like
- 47:29that's essentially what you're paying him. You're paying him he went in twenty twenty
- 47:34four. What you legitimately could have is Dawson Knox having the sixth highest cap
- 47:37hit on your team and being paid. It's oh man, it's just it's
- 47:44wild you'd be paying him. Sorry, I'm looking up more stats as I'm
- 47:47saying this here. You essentially will be paying Dawson Knox to be your sixth
- 47:53highest paid player on your football team in twenty twenty four. And yeah,
- 48:00just looking at I wanted to break it down from a cap percentage standpoint,
- 48:05So Josh Allen is nineteen point four percent of the cap. Stefon Diggs is
- 48:08eleven point five, Von Miller is nine point eight, Dion Dawkins is six
- 48:12point eighty five, Trey White is six point seven eight, Dawson Knox is
- 48:15five point nine percent of the cap. Dawson Knox in twenty twenty four,
- 48:21from a cap percentage standpoint, is above Matt Malano, Tarren Johnson, Mitch
- 48:24Morse, at Oliver Russeull, Douglas, Connor McGovern, Jordan Poyer, and
- 48:30I think you could make a case all of those guys have played better and
- 48:34meant more to the Buffalo Bills, especially in twenty twenty three, than Dawson
- 48:37Knox. And that is where this conversation comes in, right, You essentially
- 48:43are paying Dawson Knox in twenty twenty four to be your sixth highest paid player.
- 48:49From a cap hit and cap percentage standpoint, he's your say, he's
- 48:52the sixth highest cap hit from a percentage standpoint on your team in twenty twenty
- 48:57four, he's not even the best option at his position. And depending on
- 49:01what happens with who you add at the skill position spot at wide, receiver,
- 49:06weapon, tight however you want to like kind of verbalize it, he's
- 49:08probably coming into the season as the sixth best option that you want already right
- 49:13now. Again, for me, he's fifth. Stefon Diggs, Dalton Kin,
- 49:15Kaid Kalioshakir, James Cook, then Dawson Knox. All four of those
- 49:20guys ahead of him, I would rather have with the ball in their hands.
- 49:23I would rather have all four of those guys have the ball in their
- 49:28hands ahead of Dawson Knox. And depending on what they do in round one
- 49:34or round two or round three from a receiver standpoint, in the draft,
- 49:37or depending on whatever they do in free agency, again, he might be
- 49:39knocked down to sixth and then you're sitting here paying you know, the seventh
- 49:45highest paid tight end in the NFL. Who's really your tight end? Two
- 49:49whose best thing is you're blocking? Is blocking? Again, look at his
- 49:52numbers, just from a raw stats standpoint, twenty four catches one hundred and
- 49:57ninety nine yards three touchdowns, and again he was banged up like throughout the
- 50:01year, even before he was heard, and then he came back, so
- 50:04on and so forth. Then you can factor in when he was out the
- 50:07offense started to click a little bit more, and Kincaide's usage and all these
- 50:09pieces, YadA YadA. However you want to frame it, even if you
- 50:13want to give him the benefit of the doubt, if you want to play
- 50:14Devil's advocate this, if you want to blame the schematics, if you want
- 50:16to blame Dorsey, you want to blame Allen, you want to blame Brady,
- 50:20That's fine. At the end of the day, they have not the
- 50:22juice has not been worth the squeeze for the contract at Dawson Knox's signed,
- 50:25And that's the whole point of leading off with him. For me, I
- 50:28think a lot of people have glossed over that fact. Some of the conversation
- 50:31has been focused on him just being like, oh okay, like his cap
- 50:35hit isn't great, Like can they cut him? What can they do?
- 50:37YadA YadA. Just putting it into perspective and seeing him with the sixth highest
- 50:42cap percentage hit for the Bills in twenty twenty four and knowing that at best
- 50:46he's the fifth guy on the offense that you want to have the ball that's
- 50:52rough man like, that is not not ideal. He needs to have a
- 50:54step up season in twenty twenty four. And honestly, why I say,
- 50:59or why I went to that point earlier of saying, you know, I
- 51:01think twenty twenty four or twenty twenty five could be his last season with the
- 51:05team is because I don't know if he's going to step up in twenty twenty
- 51:07four, even if he gets better. Right, if you just look at
- 51:10the trajectory and continue to look at that piece, dal Kin Kaid's probably gonna
- 51:15get better, like Knox isn't isn't surpassing Diggs. He's not surpassing Dalkin Kaid.
- 51:22I guess maybe you could say, you know, I know people aren't
- 51:27probably going to because you know, he's the kind of flavor of the month
- 51:30at this point in collusion here, But I don't think people are gonna put
- 51:31collusive gear behind Dawson Knox. James Cook just had a Pro Bowl season.
- 51:36I know the Pro Bowl is useless, but just what he did from a
- 51:37usage standpoint, and his numbers would have looked even better if he didn't have
- 51:40some of those drops. Like, I just don't think Dawson Knox does step
- 51:46up from a production standpoint in twenty twenty four. I think he could get
- 51:50better this offseason the work that he puts in. He could get better as
- 51:52a route runner, in understanding how to use his size and frame and athleticism
- 51:55and truly be a mismatched piece for this offense. I don't know if the
- 52:00production is gonna come given how much I think the Bills are going to run
- 52:04the ball, and how much James Cook is gonna matter, given the stefon
- 52:06Diggs is the alpha, given that Dalton Kincaid is going to also get better
- 52:10this offseason and will still be a better pass catcher than Dawson Knox, and
- 52:15then Shaki probably gets better as well. And then again depending on who you
- 52:19draft in the draft, Like it just does, I just don't see a
- 52:22long I don't see Dawson Knocks fulfilling his contract. The life cycle of that
- 52:27contract. Again, his last year is twenty twenty six. If he's on
- 52:30this team past twenty twenty five, I would be surprised, or past twenty
- 52:35twenty six. I will say that, like, if he sees out the
- 52:37true life span of his contract, I think there's a chance he gets clipped
- 52:42in twenty twenty five. But from the dead cap hit perspective and just from
- 52:45I don't know, he still has that athleticism and he is a good enough
- 52:49blocker. Okay, cool, leave him on the team and see what you
- 52:51do. I do not think he sees that twenty twenty six season, given
- 52:54the production that he's had thus far and just what he's been and meant to
- 52:59this team, which is unfortunate for him, and maybe somebody else taps into
- 53:01it. But he'll be twenty eight in November, And at that point,
- 53:05how much do you keep playing that ceiling and trajectory game with him? Like
- 53:08how long do you continue to be able to say, yeah, but you
- 53:13know he's so raw and his ceiling and ceiling is ceiling, Like how how
- 53:16long do you keep saying that? Do you say it until he's thirty?
- 53:19Do you say it until he's thirty one, thirty two? Like I'm genuinely
- 53:22asking, Like it just does not seem like right now things are built to
- 53:25click for him. I think his best chance to succeed and step up for
- 53:30this offense is from a specific use ate standpoint, you become a true wed
- 53:36zone, a red zone weapon and threat to be that guy who you know,
- 53:39maybe only finishes with thirty catches on the year, but he's got ten
- 53:44touchdowns or eleven touchdowns or something like that. And again, I still don't
- 53:47think that's the best usage for what his cap hit is going to be in
- 53:52twenty twenty four. But I mean that's the bed he kind of made from
- 53:55a financial perspective and a commitment perspective, and he kind of got to lay
- 53:59in that bed at that point. But yeah, it's it's a conversation piece
- 54:02that I think needs to happen more. And I do feel bad because again
- 54:07I don't want to sit out here and just break some guy over the cohles
- 54:10and say that it've been a bad value in bad contract, but you just
- 54:14have not have not seen the value from that contract. It was one that
- 54:17I questioned and again somebody said in the chat earlier signing him to that extension.
- 54:22When they did, you were banking on the upward trajectory. You were
- 54:25banking on him continuing to progress. And then okay, man, like next
- 54:30year will be sixty five catches and seven hundred and fifty yards. The year
- 54:34after might be seventy seventy five catches and eight hundred nine hundred yards something like
- 54:37that. And again, it's also tough in an offense where Stefan Diggs is
- 54:40going to dominate the line's share of targets. So it's going to be tough
- 54:45for anyone else to really produce. But we've seen other guys present value.
- 54:51We've seen Gabe Davis do it, We've seen Cole Beasley do it. We've
- 54:54seen Dalton Kinkaid do it already as a rookie, and just by comparison,
- 54:58when you juxtaposed not with those players, it's rough for him, and again
- 55:01looking at what his cap hit and what his financial commitment is from a contract
- 55:06standpoint in the tight end landscape, but especially with this Bills team, it's
- 55:10rough. And so he's my first one who needs to step up for the
- 55:15Bills in twenty twenty four, especially with how much of this conversation is getting
- 55:19more help for Josh Allen and getting more help for Josh Allen and getting more
- 55:22help for Josh Allen cool like you paid Dawson Knox to give help to Josh
- 55:25Allen, and I don't think he's been that again. Just to drive in
- 55:30some of the points from earlier is twenty twenty three, again where he was
- 55:34injured. But it seems like he's always picking up knockx no pun intended and
- 55:37injuries throughout the year, and I think that's part of the reliability piece as
- 55:39well, like he's just not able to put it together for whatever reason.
- 55:44But again in twenty twenty three, twenty four catches, one hundred and ninety
- 55:46nine yards, three touchdowns, didn't have a game all season where he had
- 55:51more than three catches, and his highest receiving yards in a single game was
- 55:53thirty six. So his best chance for a stat line in any game this
- 55:59year three catches for thirty six yards. That's rough for like someone that is
- 56:06going to have the sixth highest cap hit from a percentage standpoint for your team.
- 56:09In twenty twenty four, and again he was banged up a little bit.
- 56:13Maybe he's healthier this year, maybe Joe Brady changes some things, maybe
- 56:15he will see some sort of uptick, But I think he's getting lost in
- 56:20the conversation in terms of man they have to help Josh Hallen, help Josh
- 56:23Allen, help Josh Allen. And it's like, you know, I think
- 56:28they paid Knox to be one of those people to help Josh Allen, and
- 56:31I don't think he's been the person that they envisioned when they paid, or
- 56:35maybe they did. Maybe they thought cool, if he stayed where he is,
- 56:38they're fine with that. I don't think that's what it is. And
- 56:42I don't see him seeing out the full life cycle of his contract. Maybe
- 56:45again, he gets bounced in twenty twenty five. I think he probably stays
- 56:47this year and next year, and then I think twenty twenty six they say
- 56:52deuces and cut their losses, give them the dead cap hit only being three
- 56:54point nine million and the savings being about twelve So rough rough spots for Dawson,
- 57:00Knox and again to kind of wrap it all together, what's going to
- 57:05work against him is where he sits in the pecking order, again from that
- 57:08conversation piece of who do you want to have the ball in their hands?
- 57:12He's behind Diggs, he's behind Kincaid, he's behind Shakir, he's behind James
- 57:15Cook. So he's fifth in the pecking order. How much can you really
- 57:20produce as the fifth option for touches in an offense, Like what is the
- 57:24ceiling at that point when you're not the number one pass catching option at your
- 57:29position and where you play a position where the only way to get the ball
- 57:32is to catch it, and you're not the number one pass catching option at
- 57:36your position and your fifth overall in the touches pecking order, Like how do
- 57:40you produce those numbers? How do you see that return on investment? And
- 57:45you know, Jamal says, you can use Knox to help block, absolutely
- 57:47you can, Like, you can use him to help block. You can
- 57:50leak him out on stuff, take advantage of his skill set and what he's
- 57:53able to do. But that goes to my point, right, like you're
- 57:57paying you have the seventh highest paid type end from a total value standpoint,
- 58:01and your best thing is like okay, cool, you can use him to
- 58:05block, like oh that just you can find so many other better blocking tight
- 58:09ends than Dawson Knox and still give him like twenty five targets and have him
- 58:15put up like one hundred and fifty yards, like you can. You can
- 58:17get similar production to Dawson Knox's twenty twenty three for a significantly less dollar amount,
- 58:23than what they're getting and having to hang your hat on like, well,
- 58:25yeah, they can use him to help block. That's rough considering what
- 58:30they're paying him for and how much they're paying him, And I think that's
- 58:32a great way to kind of like this end the segment, like the silver
- 58:35lining or the hope is like, well you can use him to help block,
- 58:37and it's like, oh, that's that's what we're hanging our hat on
- 58:42for, like tight end seven in terms of pay rough rough rough for a
- 58:45f rough second on this list. I'm not going to get into it too
- 58:49much because I've talked him on him before von Miller, But you said in
- 58:52the chat earlier when we started, I think he's the low hanging fruit.
- 58:55I didn't even really want to mention him because he's a given. I feel
- 58:59like at this point, for what he's done, we're gonna take a drink
- 59:02real quick. But just to put into perspective, out of one hundred and
- 59:12eighteen edges and twenty twenty three qualifying edges, he was one hundred and third
- 59:17impass rush productivity, which is very very very very bad from a raw stats
- 59:23perspective. He finished the year with seventeen pressures no sacks, only two stops.
- 59:30It was his lowest pressure output ever. Actually, his second lowest pressure
- 59:36output was in twenty thirteen with Denver. He only played five hundred and forty
- 59:38snaps, got banged up, but even then he still had forty one pressures
- 59:43and had obviously more sacks than the zero that he had this year. I
- 59:45don't want to dive into him too much because we've talked about him so much
- 59:49and he is low hanging fruit. But he needs to have a bounce back
- 59:51season and his is It's funny I have him second. I also think he
- 59:57has a higher chance of bouncing back and up in twenty twenty four then Dawson
- 1:00:01Knox does. As crazy as that may sound to some people, I think
- 1:00:05we saw flashes from Bond down the stretch in twenty twenty three. And I
- 1:00:08think with a full off season of just regularity and him being able to sit
- 1:00:13and do a regular workout routine, regular training sessions, not have to worry
- 1:00:17about rehab, not have to worry about his knee getting better, not having
- 1:00:21the mental strain and mental workload of oh is my knee? Okay? Is
- 1:00:24my knee okay? Can I cut like this? Can I plant like this.
- 1:00:28I do think he will be better. I'm just setting the bar is
- 1:00:30like edge three for him this year. I don't want to, you know,
- 1:00:34come out and say I think he's going to be an Edge one or
- 1:00:36an Edge two. I think he'll start along Greg Russeau and everything will be
- 1:00:38sweet and ship shape on the edges. I think he'll be Edge three.
- 1:00:42I think his floor is a solid, high end rotational piece, which again
- 1:00:46is not what you envisioned for him when you signed him to that contract.
- 1:00:52What you envisioned was what he was in twenty twenty two before he got hurt,
- 1:00:55which was fantastic. He was tied for thirteen him passed us productivity that
- 1:01:01year. He made everybody on the defensive line better. He looked very much
- 1:01:05like the Von Miller he was paid to be. That Chiefs game is a
- 1:01:08great example of it, especially towards the end of what they used him to
- 1:01:12do to disrupt my homes and flush him out of the pocket. It's unfortunate
- 1:01:15that the injuries kind of set him not even back, but kind of derailed
- 1:01:19him significantly with his tenure in Buffalo. But I think Von has a solid
- 1:01:25chance to bounce back when I say bounce back, I just mean be a
- 1:01:29producer and a contributor on this team. I don't think. I don't think
- 1:01:32the fair expectation is to expect him to be back to what he was in
- 1:01:37twenty twenty two before he got hurt. But I think he will be a
- 1:01:39contributor on this team. I think he'll flash more. I think he'll notice
- 1:01:43him more. I think he'll get more quality reps in the rotation in twenty
- 1:01:47twenty four. Again, I don't want to dive into it too much because
- 1:01:50we've talked about him a bunch on this show. We talked about him in
- 1:01:54season, we talked about him in the offseason. Like I don't want to
- 1:01:58keep drilling home on von Miller, but he to have a bounce back season,
- 1:02:00and he needs to not even just bounce back. He needs to step
- 1:02:04up. The Bills need more from him in twenty twenty four, given how
- 1:02:07dire it is on the defensive line and the lack of bodies they have signed
- 1:02:09for twenty twenty four. Next up on the list, some of you already
- 1:02:13mentioned it in the chat. Greg Russeau needs to step up in twenty twenty
- 1:02:17four. The Bills need more from him in twenty twenty four. And I
- 1:02:21don't say this in necessarily a negative way. I think Rousseau being on this
- 1:02:23list for me is probably the most unfair of everyone listed in the episode tonight.
- 1:02:31My thought for him stepping up in twenty twenty four and the Bills needing
- 1:02:36more from him in twenty twenty four isn't necessarily because his twenty twenty three was
- 1:02:39bad like it was for Knocks, like it was for von Miller. It's
- 1:02:45just that he needs to continue to ascend. He needs to continue on that
- 1:02:47upward trajectory. He needs to continue to take another jump because of all the
- 1:02:52inconsistencies the Bills have on the defensive line and what they have from an inconsistency
- 1:02:58standpoint at edge. So in twenty twenty three, amongst one hundred and eighteen
- 1:03:04edges with twenty percent of snaps, Greg Russol was twenty fourth in past russ
- 1:03:07productivity. Again to juxtapose that with von Miller, Von Miller was one hundred
- 1:03:10and third. Greg Russol was twenty twenty fourth, And this was also with
- 1:03:15Rousseaul playing a good chunk of the year with that banged up right foot or
- 1:03:19ankle. Like he wasn't one hundred percent healthy. You could see him kind
- 1:03:21of laboring and gutting through it at times. But he finished the year twenty
- 1:03:24fourth in past rus productivity. In twenty twenty three, amongst one hundred and
- 1:03:30eighteen edges that's regular season and postseason, he in that same category he was
- 1:03:36tied for fifteenth, and twenty twenty two, tied for forty sixth and twenty
- 1:03:40twenty one. So he improved each year. He went from forty six to
- 1:03:44fifteenth, down from fifteenth to twenty fourth this year, but still good,
- 1:03:47still in that top twenty five, and again considering he was playing banged up,
- 1:03:51not bad. His sacks did go down this year. He had four
- 1:03:53sacks in twenty twenty one, eight in twenty twenty two. We really saw
- 1:03:57him have that significant impact from Von Miller playing on the same defensive line.
- 1:04:02Everybody's metrics went down once Von went down in twenty twenty two were so kind
- 1:04:06of stabilized a little bit and aj Vanessa went up. But we saw the
- 1:04:11sacks go down this year again, four in twenty twenty one, eight and
- 1:04:14twenty twenty two to five in twenty twenty three. Again he's not playing bad.
- 1:04:17He didn't have a bad twenty twenty three. I'm going to continue to
- 1:04:19say this because I think with how we spoke about von Miller, with how
- 1:04:24we spoke about Dawston Knox, both of those guys underperformed in twenty twenty three
- 1:04:28and need to have bounce back seasons in twenty twenty four or step up seasons
- 1:04:31in twenty twenty four that have more to do with their poor performance from twenty
- 1:04:35twenty three. I do not think poorly performed in twenty twenty three. He's
- 1:04:41not bad, doesn't need a bounce back season. I just think he needs
- 1:04:43to take another jump. He steadily made progress each each season. It would
- 1:04:47be nice to see him continue to get closer or achieve more of that all
- 1:04:54around number one edge type of production. I think he's been a very strong
- 1:04:59two thus far in his career. He's been a true number one as far
- 1:05:02as a run defender, and for his run defense numbers, they've been absolutely
- 1:05:06tremendous. Again this year, he was tied for twenty third in stop percentage
- 1:05:12amongst one hundred and twenty two edges, with at least twenty percent of the
- 1:05:14snaps in the regular season in postseason, he was thirty second in stop percentage.
- 1:05:18In twenty twenty two, he was first in stop percentage as a rookie.
- 1:05:23And again, for those who don't know, a stop is a play
- 1:05:24where the defender makes the tackle and the location of the tackle makes it a
- 1:05:28successful one for the defense. So on first down, if you make the
- 1:05:30tackle, on the offense gets forty five percent of the way to a first
- 1:05:33down or less, second down if they get sixty percent or less, and
- 1:05:36on third or fourth down, if the offense doesn't get a first down at
- 1:05:40all. He has been a premier run defender since he was a rookie.
- 1:05:43I think he's been a true one as a run defender all around, paired
- 1:05:46with the pass rush game. From an efficiency standpoint, I think the overall
- 1:05:50he's been like a high end two. But the pass rush pop again.
- 1:05:56You see it there from an efficiency standpoint, you see it in pass rush
- 1:05:59productive where you're like, okay, like he's efficient, Like he's top twenty.
- 1:06:01Okay, he's impacting the quarterback, but he's not necessarily getting home.
- 1:06:04You're not seeing that sack production there consistently. That's where you need to see
- 1:06:09him take that jump. You need to see him get to a spot where
- 1:06:12he is more of a true all around one. Now he doesn't have to
- 1:06:15be a top fifteen or a top twenty one. He could be a low
- 1:06:18tier one. You just need to see that next jump because again I'm not
- 1:06:23gonna We talked about it in multiple episodes already. This defensive line needs help
- 1:06:29this offseason. Considering they only have six guys under contract and those six are
- 1:06:32not all starting caliber players. You have questions Above von Miller, at Oliver
- 1:06:40needs help inside. Like everything is a question mark on the defensive line.
- 1:06:44A sign from aside from Greg Russo and Ed Oliver. I think at Oliver
- 1:06:46started to reach more of his ceiling this past year. It was unfortunate that
- 1:06:50he disappeared in the playoff game against the Chiefs and got worked by Joe Tooney.
- 1:06:54But Ed Oliver is a very solid impact player on the interior of that
- 1:06:58defensive line, and Greg Russo is as well against the run. We need
- 1:07:01to see more of that same level of impact. For Greg Russo as a
- 1:07:04pass rusher, he needs to be more of a guy in terms of his
- 1:07:10past rush ability that is a force on his own, not because it's like
- 1:07:14well, you know, they got von Miller outside, and von Miller has
- 1:07:17that gravity and so now it's benefiting Greg russo We saw a much different Greg
- 1:07:20Russoe with von Miller versus without. We need to see that impact be a
- 1:07:26little less. We need to see Greg Russoe be able to swim more on
- 1:07:29his own as a pass rusher, and I think that can happen this year.
- 1:07:31He's super smart, Eric and I had him on the film room earlier
- 1:07:34this year. You hear him break down the science of pass rushing and like
- 1:07:40he's not just somebody with really long arms, and you know, he's strong
- 1:07:44and he's got good length and a good frame, and so it makes him
- 1:07:46successful. Like he's got long strides. He has a really high football IQ.
- 1:07:49And you hear him just speak at interviews. He usually doesn't talk a
- 1:07:53bunch, but when he does, there's meaning and purpose behind the words that
- 1:07:56he says. When he talks about what he works on and why he works
- 1:08:00on it and what his goals are. He has a very high football IQ.
- 1:08:02And again, having the long arms and the traits and the frame and
- 1:08:05the skill set helps as well. So I do think he will make that
- 1:08:11jump. But he does need to step up for the Bills in twenty twenty
- 1:08:14four, And I put him on this list as a guy who the Bills
- 1:08:16need more from in twenty twenty four because of the question marks on that defensive
- 1:08:20line, especially if you're just looking at edge right if you're just looking at
- 1:08:25that position right now, from a pass rush standpoint, he's been more of
- 1:08:29a Robin than a Batman. He needs to be more Batman. And when
- 1:08:31you look at twenty twenty four, with how much in flux that edge grouping
- 1:08:36is, where does von Miller slot? Does he go back to being a
- 1:08:41one? Is he a two? Is he a three? Do you bring
- 1:08:43in another proven pass rusher to be a one or a two like they did
- 1:08:46last year with Leonard Floyd? Do they look towards the draft and bring in
- 1:08:50a rookie and they rely on a rookie to provide meaningful snaps as a one
- 1:08:54or a two or a three? And even then, okay, now you're
- 1:08:57relying on our returning Von Miller and a rookie like the only known quantity you
- 1:09:02have there and no matter how you slice it is Greg Rusoe unless they go
- 1:09:05out And I'm not saying this is gonna happen unless they go out and bring
- 1:09:11in defensive end Josh Allen or Brian Burned or someone like Jonathan Grenard. Unless
- 1:09:15they go out and sign one of these bona fide edge rushers on the open
- 1:09:19market. Greg Russo is going to be your edge one this year. Even
- 1:09:24if they draft an edge in the first round, that edge isn't going to
- 1:09:28be Edge one. It's gonna be Greg russoe. And he's a true edge
- 1:09:30one from a run defense standpoint. Now he needs to be a true edge
- 1:09:33one from a pass rushing standpoint. He's got the advanced metrics, he's got
- 1:09:38the efficiency metrics on his side, and the tape is strong for him,
- 1:09:42especially when he's healthy. One, he's got to stay healthy. Two,
- 1:09:45he's got to get home more and impact the quarterback. You've got to see
- 1:09:47more in the sack department. It can't just be the pressures and the hits
- 1:09:53and the hurries and everything added together, you know, relative to how many
- 1:09:56times he rushes the passer, and like, oh, look at his pass
- 1:09:58rush productivity sport. It's nice. That's good. I'm a big fan of
- 1:10:00it. You need to see him get home more. He needs to have
- 1:10:02a double digit SAX season. He needs to have a nine and a half
- 1:10:05ten, ten and a half eleven SAX season. In addition to being that
- 1:10:11edge defender against the run, he needs to be a more complete overall one.
- 1:10:15Right now, I think he's been a one against the run and the
- 1:10:17two against the pass. He needs to be a one in both for this
- 1:10:21team. They need it drastically on the defensive line and especially that ed position
- 1:10:26edge position. Given the questions for von Miller and how they're going to bring
- 1:10:30guys in man, they need a good piece for him. Let's pause there,
- 1:10:35see what questions we got here, John saying, do you think the
- 1:10:40Bills are trying to resign Ajpanessa? You know he's a weird one. I
- 1:10:44don't know what he's going to get in the open market. I could easily
- 1:10:45see him coming back, and I could easily see him getting too much money
- 1:10:48than the Bills are willing to pay, and he goes somewhere else as a
- 1:10:51high three or a low tier two. I really think it's fifty to fifty.
- 1:10:56I truly don't know which way to call it. I the moment says,
- 1:11:00can Greg Russo playing inside more? He can? But in order for
- 1:11:03him to play inside, you need to have guys on the edge that can
- 1:11:06impact the quarterback, Like you're not the only reason you're kicking Greg Russo inside
- 1:11:11is because well maybe you just like the matchup advantage, So you could kick
- 1:11:14him inside just because you're like, hey, we think i'm third down him
- 1:11:17versus this right guard matchup advantage. We're doing it. But you also need
- 1:11:23to have a quality edge two and a quality edge three behind him to be
- 1:11:27your two edges while you kick him inside. So that's kind of that trade
- 1:11:30off a little bit, Like he can play inside more, but then you
- 1:11:32need to have somebody capable ready to step in his place on the edge when
- 1:11:35you kick him into the inside sweep, saying I thought Joe Toney was injured.
- 1:11:43He was out for Baltimore in the AFC Championship and out for the Super
- 1:11:47Bowl, but he played against the Buffalo Bills. I don't know when.
- 1:11:49I think he tore peck or something in his shoulder. I don't know if
- 1:11:53he did it in game or before or what happened. I don't know if
- 1:11:56he gutted through it. But he played against the Buffalo Bills in the Divisional
- 1:12:00round and he had at Oliver a torture chamber for the majority of that game.
- 1:12:06It's disappointing. I was waiting for somebody to make this joke sweepswap saying,
- 1:12:10imagine if Josh Allen joined Josh Allen, I would actually hate it because
- 1:12:13the film breakdowns, Like I would have to constantly say which Josh Allen I
- 1:12:16mean? And people are gonna have to like look at a clip on Twitter
- 1:12:19and then look to see if his defense or offense. But from an on
- 1:12:23field production standpoint, execution standpoint schematically, man, it'd be awesome. Joe
- 1:12:27saying Grude is only twenty three to plenty of time for him to develop.
- 1:12:30That he was a big project considering his lack of experience when he was in
- 1:12:33the draft. Absolutely, and that's why I say like he needs to step
- 1:12:39up in twenty twenty four and the Bills need more from him in twenty twenty
- 1:12:41four, not because he's had a bad twenty twenty three or he had a
- 1:12:45down year. He just needs to keep on that trajectory. He needs to
- 1:12:48take another jump. I think every year in the NFL, Greg Russo has
- 1:12:53gotten better some years more than others. Obviously, the injuries like kind of
- 1:12:57play into that as well. But I think every year he's either marginally or
- 1:13:00incrementally or significantly better in the NFL, I think you need a more significant
- 1:13:05jump. Again, the easiest way I can put it, he needs to
- 1:13:06be against the pass. He needs to be less Robin and more Batman.
- 1:13:11That's what you need from Greg Russo he's Batman against the run. You need
- 1:13:14him to be Batman against the pass as well. That's what you need out
- 1:13:15of Greg Russou in twenty twenty four. And given the jumps that we've seen
- 1:13:19each year and the trajectory that he's on, I think that's a fairer expectation
- 1:13:25to put upon him, and it's one that they need. And you know,
- 1:13:29I listened him on this list again, not because he had a bad
- 1:13:30twenty twenty three, but because of the trajectory that he's on, the premium
- 1:13:35position that he plays, and what the rest of that defensive line looks like
- 1:13:39from a roster standpoint in this offseason and going into the season, which is
- 1:13:42very, very very scary. Next up on this list, this one is
- 1:13:49that's funny. Walt just says, think of the positives and if we sign
- 1:13:53Alan, we can claim after good games that josh Annam was the best player
- 1:13:56on both sides of the ball. I mean, the jokes right themselves.
- 1:13:59I like where your heads at one taking a drink? Man, I'm so
- 1:14:05thirsty, it's ridiculous. All right. This next one, this next one
- 1:14:10isn't player specific. This next one is just positions specific. And I think
- 1:14:17the Bills need more from the wide receiver too position. So yeah, you
- 1:14:21know who the Bills need more from. This one's more of a what the
- 1:14:25Buffalo Bills need more from. They need more from that wide receiver two position.
- 1:14:29And I say this is a person who is a fan of Gabe Davis
- 1:14:30and his skillson and what he brought. That being said, I think you
- 1:14:34need more from that wide receiver two spot. Dalton Kinkaid ended up being you
- 1:14:39know, he's a tight end, but effectively as a pass catcher, was
- 1:14:42receiver two for the Bills this year. He was second on the team with
- 1:14:45eighty one catches again regular season en postseason second on the team with eighty one
- 1:14:49catches, second on the team in yards with seven hundred and seventy seven,
- 1:14:55and also second on the team in targets with one hundred and one. I
- 1:14:59think that's awesome, like he can still be your number two target, and
- 1:15:04I don't, And I want to say that and clarify that, Like when
- 1:15:06I say they need more from wide receiver too, I don't necessarily they mean
- 1:15:12they need more from target number two. I literally mean like the number two
- 1:15:16wide receiver on this team, and what they need more from. I think
- 1:15:19you have a nice, really defined role for Khalis Shakir. I want Khalis
- 1:15:23Shakir to continue to live in that role. I'm down for giving him the
- 1:15:26ball more. But Shakir's value as this high leverage, big play situational killer
- 1:15:33is absolutely tremendous paired with digs and kinkai. And then if you add a
- 1:15:38true number two, what you can do with Shakir, moving him around slot
- 1:15:43outside, putting him emotions screens, mismatches inside those choice or those option routes,
- 1:15:48what you can do with Shakir gets very schematically fun when you have a
- 1:15:53true wide receiver number two. So I don't really want to change Shakira's role
- 1:15:57schematically too much, Like I I want him to continue to live in this
- 1:16:01five catch, forty two yard role weekend and week out before of those catches
- 1:16:06went for a first down or two of those catches were a touchdown. Where
- 1:16:10he lives in these high leverage situations. I don't think he needs to be
- 1:16:13a volume monster if he is cool, but his success really coming in these
- 1:16:17high leverage moments is something that's awesome for this offense. And Dalan Kinkaid again,
- 1:16:21he was target to this past year. I'm fine with that. I
- 1:16:25am fine if Digs and Kinkaid are one and two respectively in targets and yards
- 1:16:30receptions. However you want to like put that in there. I'm fine with
- 1:16:33Kinkaid being target too. But wide receiver two, I think you just need
- 1:16:38more from it. We've talked about it on the show, We've talked about
- 1:16:40it in the film room. You need more of that true downfield presence.
- 1:16:45Someone who can pull coverage but also win downfield with their speed. Someone who
- 1:16:49can run away from players just purely because of speed. Someone who can win
- 1:16:55in their routes in the stem, who can win with deception and route running.
- 1:16:59I think you need more or of a complete wide receiver at that wide
- 1:17:02receiver two spot. I think that opens things up for Stefan Diggs. I
- 1:17:06think that opens things up for Dalton and Kaid. I think that opens things
- 1:17:10up for Kolio Shakir. I think it also helps the run game in terms
- 1:17:15of opening things up from a light box perspective and letting the run game breathe
- 1:17:18a little bit, and having advantageous numbers from an offensive perspective in the box
- 1:17:24and what you can run and what you can get to all of those pieces.
- 1:17:28So this is less of a who the Buffalo Bills need more from in
- 1:17:30twenty twenty four and more of a what, and that's that wide receiver two
- 1:17:34spot. They need more juice at that position or something that they can hang
- 1:17:39their head on. From a skill set standpoint, that is more than just
- 1:17:44the grinded out stuff like I like what Gabe Davis did right. I liked
- 1:17:47his ability to win downfield from an average depth of target standpoint. I liked
- 1:17:50his size in the run game and what he was able to do on the
- 1:17:54play action pieces. But I feel like there were certain aspects where he was
- 1:17:58lacking that under the offense at times, and you could tell the role that
- 1:18:02they wanted him to play. I don't think at times that was the best
- 1:18:06role for his skill set. But that's the role they needed in that offense,
- 1:18:12and thus he was forced to play it. So I don't think this
- 1:18:14offense necessarily did Gabe a ton of favors at times, and I don't think
- 1:18:17Gabe did the offense a ton of favors at times. But when it clicked,
- 1:18:21it was beautiful with what he did. I just don't think the fit
- 1:18:25was ideally what it was supposed to be. And if you can lean into
- 1:18:29someone with more of an ideal skill set for that wide receiver two role,
- 1:18:31more of a true X receiver standpoint, who can win on the backside one
- 1:18:35on one, who is a true threat to go vertical and might need to
- 1:18:39pull coverage or you know, you can't go single safe a single high safety
- 1:18:43because you know, okay, do you have to roll that single high safety
- 1:18:45over that wide receiver too, and then you have to bracket digs on the
- 1:18:48other side if you got you know you're running trips to the other side.
- 1:18:50You know, what do you do schematically all those pieces? The stress that
- 1:18:54a true wide receiver two puts on a defense is tremendous. So again,
- 1:19:02when I say wide receiver two, I literally mean like wide receiver two on
- 1:19:05the depth chart. I don't mean target number two because I think Target two
- 1:19:09on this team is Dalton kin Kid and I'm completely fine with that. I
- 1:19:12think that's a good thing. Stefan Diggs, Dalton Kinkaid, Khalishakir, James
- 1:19:18Cook factor in that wide receiver two and what they can do and who they
- 1:19:21can be, and man, that very exciting possibility is schematically especially from that
- 1:19:27like trips type of look. Like imagine you are in eleven personnel, so
- 1:19:30one tight end, one running back, three wide receivers, and you've got
- 1:19:34a really fun wide receiver two lined up by themselves to the left, and
- 1:19:39then your trip side is Stefan Diggs and Dalon Kin Kid and Khalios Shakir,
- 1:19:43and then you have James Cook in the backfield. Like there's all these possibilities
- 1:19:45and all the schematic potential that you can have there, and not that that
- 1:19:50trip side can't get it done on their own, but it opens up significantly
- 1:19:54when you have a true one on one beater on the other side, or
- 1:19:57a more complete and or dynamic skill bill set from your wide receiver two by
- 1:20:01himself on that side is the ex wide receiver to the point Okay, do
- 1:20:06they have to play two high safeties because they need to put somebody over the
- 1:20:09top, over the top to the trip side and give help to the single
- 1:20:12receiver side. Okay, now there's less bodies underneath, which means, don't
- 1:20:15Kincaid's eating now from a spatial standpoint or coali securit is eating now from a
- 1:20:20spatial standpoint? Or do you check to a run because it's a favorable,
- 1:20:24favorable box count for Josh Allen in the run game, so he checks to
- 1:20:27a run. Okay, now they want to respect the run more. So
- 1:20:30it's later in the game and now they're bringing the safety down and they have
- 1:20:31a single high alignment. Okay, cool? Is that safety cheating over to
- 1:20:35that single receiver side where your wide receiver two is always not? Okay,
- 1:20:40I'm checking that alert. Can my guy beat that corner straight up off the
- 1:20:43line and beat them one on one? Can he rout them up? Can
- 1:20:45he beat him vertical? All these pieces start to open up more and get
- 1:20:50more exciting when you have that true wide receiver two capability. And that's what
- 1:20:55I went, well, that's what I'm talking about when I say the Bills
- 1:20:57need more from the wide receiver two spot. Think just from a schematic standpoint,
- 1:21:01it really opens up a lot just from one simple skill set. Addition,
- 1:21:05dropping into the Buffalo Bill's offensive bucket. Oh, that's a big one
- 1:21:11for me. Again, I haven't ranked fourth here just because it wasn't person
- 1:21:14based. It was more of a what than a who, and I didn't
- 1:21:15want to get into it too early. Could be very exciting. Oh a
- 1:21:20lot is comment from Jamal saying draft jar John Newton defensive tackle from Illinois.
- 1:21:26Apparently I read something on Twitter. He wants to go by Johnny Newton,
- 1:21:29which is what his Twitter handle is, so I'll be referring him a Johnny
- 1:21:31Newton defensive tackle from Illinois. Yeah. I've put out some really fun tape
- 1:21:35on him. Dude's a beast inside. I would be very much okay with
- 1:21:40him, or Byron Murphy defensive tackle from Texas being the Bills draft pick at
- 1:21:45pick twenty eight, again, depending on what happens a free agency. I
- 1:21:46don't want to. I do mock drafts this time of year when I'm bored
- 1:21:50or I have time to kill, like when I'm waiting for something, or
- 1:21:54I'm like sitting in line at the store, like I'll do one quick for
- 1:21:56like a quick minute and then hit send. But mock draft are pretty use
- 1:22:00list right now, and even just saying like, oh, I gladly take
- 1:22:02so and so I picked twenty eight. Right now, it's February twentieth,
- 1:22:08so many of these needs are gonna change. Two three weeks from now.
- 1:22:11For all we know, the Bills could sign Sheldon Rankins and Dayekwon Jones and
- 1:22:15now all of a sudden, you don't need a defensive tackle in round one
- 1:22:16if you're the Bill. So I could be sitting here right now being like,
- 1:22:19man, i'd love Newton or buyer Murphy at twenty eight two three weeks
- 1:22:23from now, or three or four weeks from now, I might be sitting
- 1:22:26there being like, if they take defensive tackle at twenty eight, I'd be
- 1:22:28cool, but I'd be pissed, like so many things change, But yeah,
- 1:22:30Newton is a stud, and I really like John coming in with his
- 1:22:33weekly Troy Franklin commentary. I respect it, I respect it, I respect
- 1:22:39it. Let me grab this one because it's related Roy saying any concerns with
- 1:22:42Troy Franklin welighing under one hundred ninety pounds and being over six feet tall.
- 1:22:45Yeah, he's a little skinny, but you're not drafting him to be like
- 1:22:50a physical specimen. You're not looking at him to be like, Okay,
- 1:22:54he's gonna win a physicality, he's gonna block dudes off the line. We're
- 1:22:58gonna put him in a condensed split and ask him to crack down on a
- 1:23:00safety. You're drafting him for one thing, and that speed. My bigger
- 1:23:05concerns with Troy Franklin. I'm not as high on Troy Franklin as a lot
- 1:23:09of the Bill's community is. I like his speed, I think again,
- 1:23:14I think right now what he is is more of a one trick pony.
- 1:23:17But that one trick is absolutely tremendous. And now, with so many of
- 1:23:20these guys coming off from college, a lot of his projection base, anybody
- 1:23:24that you take, you are looking at them and being like, Okay,
- 1:23:26here's what they are. Can we get them better? Here? Can we
- 1:23:29get them to become this? Like? Where can they become? What can
- 1:23:31they become? From a player standpoint, I just think there's a lot left
- 1:23:35to be desired with Troy Franklin from a route running standpoint. Right now,
- 1:23:39both in the stems and his breaks. I think he really just wins with
- 1:23:45speed, which is fine, like in the Bills offense. The fit is
- 1:23:47absolutely tremendous, like his ability to pull coverage and win downfield with speed,
- 1:23:51Like dude runs like a gazelle. We'll see if he runs the forty time
- 1:23:55at the combine. But he's a dude that I could see running in the
- 1:23:58high five to three, high five three. He's high four threes, like
- 1:24:00four to three nine. Maybe he goes down like a four to three six.
- 1:24:02Like dude can absolutely fly. Now there's other aspects again to his game,
- 1:24:08the size, the physicality or lack thereof what he is as a blocker,
- 1:24:13break tackle ability, route running, standpoint, even some things at the
- 1:24:15catch point and being able to separate at the catch point or win at the
- 1:24:18catch point. I don't think they're necessarily there. But the speed is so
- 1:24:23intriguing. And the thought is, again you bring him in because you can't
- 1:24:26teach that speed. He opens up a lot of the offense in twenty twenty
- 1:24:29four, and then you try to coach him up and get him to be
- 1:24:31more of that route running player. And then if you add some quality route
- 1:24:34running to that speed, he becomes very very very dangerous. Carlos is Brian
- 1:24:40Thomas Junior from LSU has been the most picked bill selection to pick twenty eight.
- 1:24:45Would you would that improve our production for wide receiver too? It would
- 1:24:47from like a skill set standpoint of what he is, big, tall,
- 1:24:50fast, like just send him downfield on announced. I don't love. He's
- 1:24:54another guy. I don't love as much as a lot in the draft community
- 1:24:59do. But I'll also not finished with my evaluation for him, so I
- 1:25:02want, I want to say that, but he's another one. You're you're
- 1:25:05you're banking on the traits with Brian Thomas, and his traits are very fun
- 1:25:10from a plug and play standpoint, from the speed and the size into the
- 1:25:15Bills offense. Jamal says, Mylae neighbors are Brian Thomas Malik neighbors every single
- 1:25:18day of the week. Neighbors is ridiculous. I don't think he's gonna be
- 1:25:23there at pick twenty eight. I actually not even think there's no way he's
- 1:25:26there at pick twenty eight, unless unless some character issue comes out, but
- 1:25:30even then he'd still have to fall significantly. I think there's no shot of
- 1:25:34neighbors being there at pick twenty eight. I would love it if he was,
- 1:25:39and I would run that pick up to the podium. He's absolutely nasty.
- 1:25:45Gentlem's Entertainment saying, what late round defensive tackle one can we take later
- 1:25:48and develop for a year or two? Late round like late round I think
- 1:25:54you'd like even going to like round three and four and stuff like. I
- 1:25:57think you could take like a Dwayne Carter from Duke or I've even like,
- 1:26:00I don't think Marcus Harris from Auburn's like a one, but he's some of
- 1:26:03that that you could rotate in as like a two or a three. I
- 1:26:05think Dwayne Carter's really kind of where I draw the line, and I think
- 1:26:09he's like the two or kind of three. But I do have to finish
- 1:26:11my defensive tackle evaluations as a whole and see that piece I the moment says
- 1:26:17if Jalen Polk, I like Jalen Polk more if he's there in round two.
- 1:26:20But my favorite is my favorite is Xavier la Get. Yeah, it's
- 1:26:24hard to not look at Xavier l Get and not get excited. Dude is
- 1:26:27fast and big and strong and cut, looks like a baby AJ Brown.
- 1:26:30His highlight tape is extremely exciting. I don't love him as much on the
- 1:26:34actual game tape in the All twenty two from a route running standpoint, but
- 1:26:38he's another one you're banking on the size and the speed and the athleticism and
- 1:26:42your ability to coach him up to become more of a complete wide receiver,
- 1:26:45knowing that he has these raw traits that you cannot teach and you cannot bank
- 1:26:53in and go in for or well, you can't develop like you can't teach
- 1:26:57size, you can't teach speed. You can make someone a little faster,
- 1:26:59but you can't make a four or five guy become a low four to four
- 1:27:01guy. Oh, John Saint Troy's forty was four point three five. That
- 1:27:05tracks and that makes sense? Who interesting comedy from Teddy saying, and I
- 1:27:10love you guys just sometimes cover what the positions coaches are really responsible for.
- 1:27:13I think there are a lot of laymen like me who don't understand their roles
- 1:27:15beyond yelling at people in practice. I know you guys said they have more
- 1:27:19of a role in the defense and offense perspectively, but I don't know to
- 1:27:21what degree would be really interesting. That's actually really cool idea. I'm going
- 1:27:25to bookmark that Teddy. Maybe that's something we get into in the film room
- 1:27:29myself and Erica. Maybe something I dive into here on decize coverage, especially,
- 1:27:32it's always a struggle at times to kind of fill the off season with
- 1:27:35content that's really cool idea, especially because you know we've alluded to it at
- 1:27:39times, like on the defensive side, like certain position coaches will work on
- 1:27:43the third down package or the red zone package or the run game piece for
- 1:27:45that week. So there's all like little intricacies and aspects of it that's really
- 1:27:48cool idea. I'll make a note for that. Another piece here that I
- 1:27:53think the Bills need more from in twenty twenty four. Don't yell at me.
- 1:27:57It's a very specific, specific, specific piece Josh Allen. The Bills
- 1:28:03need more from Josh Allen in twenty four, twenty four. Before anybody yells
- 1:28:06at me and points out how many touchdowns he had or how Josh Allen is
- 1:28:10the offense, I get it, and I understand Josh Allen needs to be
- 1:28:13better from a decision making standpoint and from a mechanical standpoint in twenty twenty four.
- 1:28:17The Bills need more from him in twenty twenty four. This is not
- 1:28:21to say that Josh Allen's terrible. And I also want to throw this cavey
- 1:28:25ont in there too, because I know anytime you critique Alan for something,
- 1:28:29especially like mechanical or decision making or things like that, people will readily point
- 1:28:33out that, yeah, but look how good he is without needing all that
- 1:28:35stuff. And that's fair and understandable. Right again, like all the touchdowns
- 1:28:39he put up this year, the plays that he makes, they're tremendous.
- 1:28:41So me sitting here being like, he has to get better in these two
- 1:28:44areas, You're sitting there being like, yeah, but look how good he
- 1:28:46is without being really good in those areas in twenty twenty three. That's fair
- 1:28:49and that's understandable. But the flip side of that conversation is, imagine how
- 1:28:56much better he'd be if he got better in those areas. If his footwork
- 1:29:00mechanics were better, if he was better at sliding in the pocket, if
- 1:29:03he was better with his arm angles and his motion and where his eyes went
- 1:29:08and getting through the progressions and just little things. Even I know, uh,
- 1:29:13for some people, you know it was the wrong decision or pee Ralph,
- 1:29:16I'm going what I know I know, I know, I know,
- 1:29:20But even like that throw is Shakira on that second down, that second last
- 1:29:25play for the Bill season against Kansas City, I think it was the right
- 1:29:28read. I think it was fine from a decision standpoint, Just slide in
- 1:29:30the pocket a little bit, just a little bit better from a mechanical perspective,
- 1:29:34get through, step to it right a little bit, give yourself a
- 1:29:38better opportunity to make that throw. Little pieces like that, and then ironically
- 1:29:40on third down, poor decision making should have hit Kincaid doesn't Bills have to
- 1:29:44try for a long field goal and they miss. But I think better from
- 1:29:47a mechanical standpoint, especially with his feet, there's a lot of throws that
- 1:29:49he missed, or throws that not even missed that he got there, but
- 1:29:54put his receivers in bad spots because he's got happy feet, because he's moving
- 1:29:58too much back there, because he's pitter pass terring instead of having a good
- 1:30:00base and having his shoulders pointed in the right direction. And again the other
- 1:30:05side of that coin is, yeah, but he makes all these wild,
- 1:30:08amazing throws off platform or jumping in the air with poor footwork and all this
- 1:30:12stuff. So again I understand all that, but we've reached a point with
- 1:30:15Josh Allen and this Bills team where you have got to be perfect to beat
- 1:30:21Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs. And that's not even taking into account
- 1:30:27Joe Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals, who are I think a bigger problem for
- 1:30:30the Bills than the Kansas City Chiefs are. From a schematic standpoint, that's
- 1:30:33a conversation for another time. To win these playoff games, to win these
- 1:30:38games where you have a low margin for error, you have got to be
- 1:30:42perfect. You cannot afford to have poor footwork or poor decision making or be
- 1:30:47poor in those areas. His athleticism and his unicorn nature is not going to
- 1:30:51go away. He's gonna have a cannon, he's gonna be big, he's
- 1:30:55gonna have the frame, he's gonna have the speed, he's gonna have the
- 1:30:58athleticism. He's gonna have the ability to outrun or truck linebackers, or outrun
- 1:31:01or truck defensive backs, or stiff arm or outrun defensive lineman. That isn't
- 1:31:06going to go away. He needs to get better at the quarterback. In
- 1:31:11nature of the quarterback position, I don't know how much he's been working with
- 1:31:15Jordan Palmer or with anybody these past several years. He needs to get back
- 1:31:18to that. He needs to get back into the dungeon and work on his
- 1:31:23mechanics and work on the quarterback aspect of playing quarterback. He needs to work
- 1:31:28on all the stuff that Drew Brees was great at right, the mental side,
- 1:31:31the footwork side, the mechanic side. He needs to get better with
- 1:31:35that. That is where Josh Allen needs to improve. Also, just from
- 1:31:39a long term standpoint, Josh Allen at some point is going to be that
- 1:31:43pitcher who used to win in his twenties and late twenties and even early thirties
- 1:31:47because he could throw ninety eight ninety nine, you know, or even like
- 1:31:50one hundred hundred and one, and all of a sudden he's twenty nine or
- 1:31:54he's thirty years old, and now he only throws ninety five, or he
- 1:31:57only throws ninety four. That too, seemed fast. Doesn't have the movement
- 1:32:00like it used to. Okay, do you have a change up? What
- 1:32:03other pitches do you have? What other pieces do you have in your arsenal?
- 1:32:08Can you actually pitch instead of being a thrower, can you actually be
- 1:32:12a pitcher? And I think that's what Josh Allen needs to improve on for
- 1:32:15twenty twenty four. Again, what he's been has been tremendous, absolutely absolutely
- 1:32:20tremendous. He's been in the MVP conversation for multiple years. He's taken the
- 1:32:25bills very far, just not far enough. And I think the difference between
- 1:32:29going very far and not far enough is the decision making and the mechanics in
- 1:32:33Josh Allen's game. This is not to say that he's bad or he's a
- 1:32:36poor performer or anything like that, but in the playoffs, that margin for
- 1:32:42air is so small, especially against the Chiefs and the Patrick mahomess of the
- 1:32:45world and the Andy Reids and the Steve Spagnolo's, and again not even taking
- 1:32:48into account the Bengals being a problem, the Joe Burrows and the lou Anna
- 1:32:53Rumo's and those guys who just know how to scheme right and they know what
- 1:32:57to do. You've got to be on point in every way, shape and
- 1:33:00form. And it's nice to have the athleticism and the unicorn stuff. I
- 1:33:02think that's beautiful and that's brilliant, and that's great and he's gonna win consistently
- 1:33:08because of that. But to really get over the hump, he's got to
- 1:33:11be better at the quarterback aspects of playing quarterback. Again, the easiest way
- 1:33:15I can put it is, he needs to pitch more. He needs to
- 1:33:16become a better pitcher instead of just a better thrower or just a better athlete
- 1:33:20at the quarterback position. He needs to get better at the Drew Brees stuff
- 1:33:24of being quarterback. He's good at them, he just needs to get better.
- 1:33:28And that, even in and of itself, might be an unfair expectation
- 1:33:30or asked, because he already is like a very good player. And I
- 1:33:34do understand the nature of that conversation of yeah, but look how good he
- 1:33:38is already just surrounding with better talent or get better pieces around him, which
- 1:33:43is fair, But just think how much better he would be if he was
- 1:33:48more on point from those aspects. While they're saying Mahomes and Burrough were far
- 1:33:53from close to perfect and they went and or won a Super Bowl, I
- 1:33:57think this need to be close to perfect as a Bill specific need. I
- 1:34:00also think that when you look at Mahomes in Burrow, their quarterbacking aspects are
- 1:34:04usually on point, footwork, mechanics, progressions, reads, timing, how
- 1:34:11they see the field. Alan and Mahomes are similar, but Alan or Mahomes
- 1:34:16sees the field better than Josh Allen does, Like I think his understanding of
- 1:34:19the game is better than Alan's. Granity has Andy Reid and like what he
- 1:34:25has. I think that helps as well. And then Burrow. He doesn't
- 1:34:28have the athleticism and the arm talent that Mahomes and Allan have, so I
- 1:34:30think, but just by nature, he has to be better pre to post
- 1:34:34snap and processing and what he does and how he wins with his brain.
- 1:34:38He's not a bad athlete, he doesn't have a horrible arm, but he
- 1:34:41has to win with more of the mental side because he doesn't have the physical
- 1:34:44gifts and tools that Mahomes and Alan have. But I'd like the whole like
- 1:34:48need to be close to perfect. Sure maybe that is a Bill specific thing,
- 1:34:53but I think Alan just needs to improve in those areas because again he
- 1:34:59doesn't have to work on certain pieces that aren't going anywhere, Like just don't
- 1:35:02get horribly out of shape and you're still gonna be big and fast and strong,
- 1:35:05like that's fine, So work on the mechanics, work on the science
- 1:35:09of playing quarterback and see where that takes you, because I don't think he
- 1:35:13has enough the past several years, and it's starting to hurt them like a
- 1:35:16little bit. And to see the common here from Roy saying players are allowed
- 1:35:20to have an offseason enjoy other things, or I see some of the other
- 1:35:23comments here. Yeah, absolutely, Like no one's saying like as soon as
- 1:35:26they lose, you have to be practicing every single day or five days a
- 1:35:30week, every day there, every week in the off season. Nobody's saying
- 1:35:31that. But his mechanics have gotten poor the past several years, and that
- 1:35:39just makes me wonder what is he doing in the off season with that.
- 1:35:42Maybe he's working on something else. Maybe he's working on I don't know,
- 1:35:45arm strength or seeing certain aspects or trying to beat certain things. Like maybe
- 1:35:49he's working on something else too much and he us to put more effort and
- 1:35:53focus in this. I don't necessarily know, but I think he needs to
- 1:35:57be better from a mechanics standpoint and decision making sae point Lawyer's like a comment
- 1:36:03here from Carl saying, when receiver beats coverage and has a step or two
- 1:36:06going downfield. If Josh could drop it in the bread basket, it would
- 1:36:09be awesome. Josh miss Stefan many times. We need explosive plays downfield,
- 1:36:13absolutely, and you know it's ironic too, because of course against the Chiefs,
- 1:36:15Alan makes a beautiful throw to Digs and Digs drops it and it's right
- 1:36:19in his hands. But there was a multitude of times during the year where
- 1:36:23Diggs is wide open downfield and Alan just misses him consistently. And a lot
- 1:36:28of it is just poor mechanics. Some of it is like pressure in his
- 1:36:30face or him trying to evade or avoid at the last minute. It's not
- 1:36:32all on Alan, but I do think having more consistent, more consistency in
- 1:36:36his mechanics would go a long way towards helping him to win downfield more like
- 1:36:41what he was doing in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one and all those pieces
- 1:36:45and the decision making standpoint as well. We've shown it on this show,
- 1:36:47We've shown it on the film room, him just having like basic like high
- 1:36:53school varsity lapses in his decision making of just like here's a simple one to
- 1:36:57read. You're reading player A. If player A does this, you go
- 1:37:00there. If he does that, you go there and it's just being played
- 1:37:02out for him and him just not pulling the trigger. So decision making mechanics
- 1:37:06has to get better. I saw this Ned coming in and saying I'm busting
- 1:37:10with the boys last offseason. Josh didn't sound like he was that serious last
- 1:37:14offseason. More golf and less focus on working out in nutrition. Yeah,
- 1:37:15I saw some clip where he said something of like, you know, like
- 1:37:18my strength and conditioning coaches would be upset about what I'm going to say,
- 1:37:23but like I don't do much strength and conditioning work or something in the off
- 1:37:26season like I don't. I think it was something strength and conditioning related and
- 1:37:30less mechanical. Obviously it's not a good look, like you don't want your
- 1:37:32quarterback coming out and being like, no, I don't really do much.
- 1:37:35But again, he'd come training camp time and come season time. I think
- 1:37:40he's always like one of those dudes leading in sprints and he's got so many
- 1:37:44natural gifts. I think it kind of helps him out a lot. But
- 1:37:45if he just increased some of the focus in those areas, I think it
- 1:37:48would just take him to that next tier. Like I think he would be
- 1:37:51able to surpass Patrick Mahomes if he had that more focus into the mechanics and
- 1:37:59the decision making aspect the game. But you know, again, it's a
- 1:38:01tough off life or off season and balance. And I get the notion of,
- 1:38:06you know, these guys having lives and wanting to enjoy who they are
- 1:38:10and what they do, and I completely get it, but they there needs
- 1:38:15to be more from Allen, from the fine, from the fine detailed perspectives
- 1:38:19of playing quarterback. And I just think if you could marry like, think
- 1:38:23about think about if you took the decision making and and again this isn't a
- 1:38:29like for like because some of Josh Allen's decision making is what leads us to
- 1:38:31those high variance plays and that unicorn aspect of his play. But imagine if
- 1:38:36you took like Joe Burrow or Drew Breeze's brain and put it into Josh Allen
- 1:38:41or Tom Brady's brain and put it into Josh Allen. Like those physical gifts
- 1:38:45combined with the ability to see the game, understand the game pre to post
- 1:38:48snap, and then also to have the mechanics on top of that, That's
- 1:38:51what I'm talking about, then you truly get to an unstoppable level with Josh
- 1:38:56Allen and this Bill's offense. Again, they already are a good defence.
- 1:39:00He already is a very good quarterback. And see I like this coming here
- 1:39:04from Walter saying, and I honestly don't care what he does in the off
- 1:39:06season as long as he's prepared for the season. But that's just me.
- 1:39:10But that's my point. I don't think what he's doing in the off season
- 1:39:14is preparing him for the season enough from a decision making and a mechanic standpoint.
- 1:39:19Based off of the tape that I'm watching and seeing the decisions he's making
- 1:39:24and seeing the mechanical work, especially from a footwork perspective, I don't think
- 1:39:28he's doing enough in the off season from that perspective. That's what I'm saying.
- 1:39:31Like I'm in the same boat. Like I'm not saying a dude has
- 1:39:33to grind every single day, but you have to be properly prepared for the
- 1:39:38season. I'm not saying he's not properly prepared. I'm just saying, maybe
- 1:39:41some more focus needs to go into those areas and lessen to others. I
- 1:39:45don't know what his complete off season routine and regiment looks like I know he's
- 1:39:48working to some degree at some point, maybe just put some more focus into
- 1:39:53those buckets and maybe a little less than others. Or if he is completely
- 1:39:56slacking, I'm not saying that he is, but if he is completely slacking,
- 1:39:59you know, stockmmpletely slacking, maybe you know, slack less, but
- 1:40:01just put some more focus into those buckets. Again for a from a mechanical
- 1:40:06standpoint and a decision making standpoint, I think that will go a long way
- 1:40:10for this Buffalo Bills team. Oh, this is a really good way to
- 1:40:14talk about Dawson Knox from zen Clo Rady four saying, I think Knox is
- 1:40:15a good blocker first and a mediocre passing option whose contract never made sense.
- 1:40:21I think it's a really fair way to kind of classify it. Unfortunately,
- 1:40:25again, like I think, I think when you paid Dawson Knox that contract,
- 1:40:28you were paying him for the future. You were paying thinking man two
- 1:40:32years from now. This contract is gonna be a great value because we're paying
- 1:40:35him to be tight end seven and he's gonna be like tight end five or
- 1:40:39tight end four, and we're gonna have really good value just between the injuries.
- 1:40:44Offensive schematics and his own individual performance and development. We just haven't seen
- 1:40:47that, and it's been it's been unfortunate. It's gonna be and again,
- 1:40:54I think it's gonna be tough for him to kind of be that person that
- 1:40:56the Bills need more from in twenty twenty four. Like I've laid out for
- 1:40:59it here, just because I don't think he's going to be high in the
- 1:41:01pecking order when it comes to dudes that are going to touch the ball and
- 1:41:04get the ball. Yeah. Nice comment here from Walter saying I'd suffer Joe
- 1:41:09Burrow's DC and the defense. Yeah, that's fair. I take Luanda Roumo,
- 1:41:12that's fair for me. Lucas saying Alan needs to do it too.
- 1:41:15It does and work out privately with the receiving and see, that's my thing
- 1:41:18too. Like I think we not that I don't know if it does happen
- 1:41:21anymore, but I feel like we saw that more in previous seasons. Like
- 1:41:28we'd see Alan and the guys getting together and I think Florida, and they
- 1:41:33run routes and work on concept stuff, and we'd see the pictures and we'd
- 1:41:36see the practices, and like, I don't know if those are still happening
- 1:41:40and we're just not seeing the footage or if they're not happening anymore. But
- 1:41:44I would like as much work in the offseason as possible because again, I
- 1:41:46think this team continues to hit the hump, and a lot of it again
- 1:41:49could be solved with injuries. Like if so many of these dudes don't get
- 1:41:53banged up this past year, I think it's a completely different season against can't
- 1:41:56see me in the Division Round. But just speaking from a Josh Allen standpoint,
- 1:41:59yeah, there are some struggles that he could fix with a little bit
- 1:42:01of fine tuning mechanically and just from a studying and decision making standpoint, But
- 1:42:06you know, it'll it'll be a interesting piece to see what they do going
- 1:42:11forward. John saying too much emphasis on our nearly perfect quarterback. We will
- 1:42:15win a super Bowl whenever the players around him play up to his level.
- 1:42:17Fair, But also he's got to continue to play up to that level consistently.
- 1:42:23Like and it's so tough with Alan right, like, because he plays
- 1:42:26a good game and there's a good game plan against Kansas City and the Division
- 1:42:28Round, right, I think like a good aspect there. Then he barely
- 1:42:30misses that throat to Shakir on second down, and then he makes a very
- 1:42:33poor decision on third down. Granted, Tyler Bash should have made that kick,
- 1:42:39so that kind of negates it. And then the defense was super banged
- 1:42:42up, so maybe the defense you know, kind of lets him down.
- 1:42:44Anyway, Like you're kind of this never ending loop or cycle or of trying
- 1:42:47to figure out like this chicken egg scenario of who let down who? But
- 1:42:51I just think there's been often too many times where Alan's mechanics or again his
- 1:42:58decision making like lead them astray. I think you see more connections on the
- 1:43:00deep ball in the year of his mechanics are better. I don't think you
- 1:43:03see the sluggishness in the offense if some of his decision making is better.
- 1:43:08And again you take some of that good with the bat right, he has
- 1:43:10a poor decision or a poor throw, and then the next play he stiff
- 1:43:14arms a defensive end in the face and jumps over a linebacker and he runs
- 1:43:16thirty yards for a first down. So it's kind of that whole like yin
- 1:43:19and yang aspect of Josh Allen, I just think if you can reduce the
- 1:43:24dark side of him, it just it increases the effectiveness. If you can
- 1:43:29increase the if you can decrease the dark side of him and just fine tune
- 1:43:34and smooth out a lot of those pieces, I think it just improves the
- 1:43:39offense drastically. And it has to be something that's talked about. We can't
- 1:43:42just sit here and constantly say like, oh, the defense has to get
- 1:43:45better, and you have to get him more pieces, and you have to
- 1:43:46get him this, and you have to get him that. Like at a
- 1:43:49certain point, when does and I'm not saying the Bills offense was loaded with
- 1:43:53talent like, because I don't think that's the case. I think they have
- 1:43:55a good supporting cast. I don't think they have an amazing or great supporting
- 1:43:59cast. And I think there was a fine line between, Like I'm not
- 1:44:01saying rain him in or make him focus on efficiency and take away the high
- 1:44:06variance. You just need to fine tune the detailed aspects of his game like
- 1:44:10footwork and decision making. And I think that will go a long way towards
- 1:44:13taking them to taking him to another tier, to taking him to that Mahomes
- 1:44:16tier, because Mahomes is in a tier by himself, and at a certain
- 1:44:20point Allen's got to surpass Mahomes, right, and you can have a great
- 1:44:24supporting cast, and you can beat Mahomes with a really good defense and everything
- 1:44:28else that you have and all these supporting pieces. I'm not saying that's not
- 1:44:30the case, but there are areas for Alan to improve, and I think
- 1:44:34that can't be thrown out. I'm not saying the defense doesn't have to get
- 1:44:39better. I'm not saying the supporting cast doesn't have to get better. But
- 1:44:42there are areas for Alan to get better at, and we need to have
- 1:44:45that conversation like this was. This was my fifth point in this episode of
- 1:44:48who the Buffalo Bills need more from in twenty twenty four, And I just
- 1:44:51picked it because it's importante. Because his mechanics report at a multitude of time,
- 1:44:55so were his decision making, and he still had a great season like
- 1:44:58that. I think that's the the important thing to not lose sight of.
- 1:45:02Right, he had a really good twenty twenty three. Imagine how much better
- 1:45:06of a season he could have if he got better in these areas. Everybody
- 1:45:10has to improve. Just saying that Alan has to improve doesn't mean the players
- 1:45:15around him don't have to get better. That doesn't mean they don't have to
- 1:45:16tweak the roster or expect more from anybody on either side of the ball.
- 1:45:20But you have to assess everybody, and you have to look at everybody.
- 1:45:23And I know Alan is a very good football player, but there are aspects
- 1:45:27where he can afford to get better. And if he does get better in
- 1:45:30those areas, man, just imagine again, it's like taking It's like taking
- 1:45:35a pitcher who can throw one hundred and one miles an hour and all of
- 1:45:40a sudden giving him a change up and another pitch, like giving him three
- 1:45:43workable pitches that he can locate and work. Like how much more dangerous do
- 1:45:46you become when you go from just being a thrower to an actual pitcher?
- 1:45:51Right? That type of arsenal, It just gives you a better chance.
- 1:45:55I will I want this team and all the players in it to do whatever
- 1:45:59is necessary to make the entire team better and make all the players better.
- 1:46:02And Alan is tremendous, but there's a multitude of areas in his game where
- 1:46:06he can get better. And the two big ones decision making and mechanics.
- 1:46:12For me, and Ned's saying a few less, I INT's we might have
- 1:46:15the one seed and a bye, that's fair. I just don't think you're
- 1:46:18ever gonna be able to that. The thing in Alan's brain that makes him
- 1:46:23throw those interceptions is the same thing in his brain that makes him truck defenders
- 1:46:28and jump over dudes. I just don't think you can eliminate one without impacting
- 1:46:30the other. So unfortunately, I think that's something that we're going to have
- 1:46:33to live with. I don't think you can ever completely coach that out of
- 1:46:38him without coaching the high variance plays out of him potentially along with it,
- 1:46:43which again makes him a little destructive in addition to being beautiful at the same
- 1:46:46time. And again that's that pendulum swing nature of Josh Allen, like he
- 1:46:50gives and he takes away and just just back and forth, and you have
- 1:46:54to hope that he gives more than he takes away. It's just hard to
- 1:46:57kind of coach that out of him or work that out of him without also
- 1:47:01coaching out or working out the explosives or the really again high various positive plays
- 1:47:08that he brings as well. But we'll see, I'm gonna throw up the
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