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- 0:00Speaker 1: On the Big Dog Cast, the questions asked if movies
- 0:03Speaker 1: have women inum, are all their discussions just boyfriends and
- 0:07Speaker 1: husbands or do they have individualism the patriarchy? Zef and
- 0:11Speaker 1: best start changing it with the Beck Doll Cast. Welcome
- 0:16Speaker 1: to the studies. You're hostening back fast and Jamie loved
- 0:21Speaker 1: it to our live show as a Boston from the
- 0:31Speaker 1: ours possible. Thanks for having us here and to improv Boston. Yeah. Yeah,
- 0:35Speaker 1: we're happy to be here. I'm doing a good job
- 0:38Speaker 1: so far. You're killing it. I'm killing it. We're very sleepy.
- 0:43Speaker 1: I'm hilarious. Less than twenty four hours ago we recorded
- 0:46Speaker 1: another live episode, well, actually like twelve hours. Yeah, we're
- 0:51Speaker 1: episode in New York City. I ever heard of it?
- 0:55Speaker 1: Bit there and then we slept next to each other
- 0:59Speaker 1: on a coach bus. This morning was very intimate. Yeah,
- 1:02Speaker 1: it's nice. At least we don't have to share a
- 1:04Speaker 1: mike this time. Last night we were scissoring each other
- 1:08Speaker 1: in order to share a mike. It was very cute.
- 1:13Speaker 1: People loved it. I suggested, what was the name change?
- 1:17Speaker 1: The Scissor Friends. That's the news. We're scrapping the bike podcast.
- 1:23Speaker 1: Who has listened to our podcast before last time, last
- 1:29Speaker 1: time we did our first live episode or in April,
- 1:31Speaker 1: and everyone was like, like everyone had wandered into the
- 1:37Speaker 1: wrong round. Has anyone not heard an episode of the
- 1:40Speaker 1: Bectel Cast before? Oh, I brought my hertphon, got good,
- 1:44Speaker 1: let's just okay, Uh, that's okay. We'll explain to you
- 1:49Speaker 1: what it did. We sure will. The Bectel Cast is
- 1:52Speaker 1: inspired by the Bechtel Test. It's a test that requires
- 1:55Speaker 1: that a movie or a TV show or anything with
- 1:57Speaker 1: characters in a story has two women. They have to
- 2:00Speaker 1: speak to each other. Those two women characters have to
- 2:02Speaker 1: have names, and their conversation has to be about something
- 2:05Speaker 1: other than a man. Don't pass. It sounds like a joke,
- 2:12Speaker 1: but it is just tragically nine of movies in existence. Yes,
- 2:17Speaker 1: So we're here to talk about the portrayal of women
- 2:20Speaker 1: and movies and how it's shitty and how it should
- 2:23Speaker 1: be better. Where the scissor friends, And then we're talking
- 2:30Speaker 1: about a specific movie today. Also, the last time we
- 2:33Speaker 1: recorded a live episode here, we're like, Hey, has anyone
- 2:35Speaker 1: seen Dirty Dancing? The movie we're talking about today, And
- 2:38Speaker 1: everyone's like, no, what is this? What's the movie? What's
- 2:45Speaker 1: the movie Real Feral Degenerates here last you're returning audience member.
- 2:53Speaker 1: It made a real weird last So today we're talking
- 2:56Speaker 1: about Men and Black by dam Plaus who has not
- 2:59Speaker 1: seen Men and a calling out a name. We're about
- 3:06Speaker 1: to spoil every second of it, so I'm sorry. One
- 3:10Speaker 1: of those movies that is again on television all one
- 3:14Speaker 1: percent of the time. It's well, really quick. I just
- 3:17Speaker 1: wanted to check in with our usual stuff at the top,
- 3:21Speaker 1: Alfred Billina, check for people who isn't well. We know
- 3:25Speaker 1: we do have an upda Alfred Billina. We didn't talk
- 3:27Speaker 1: about it at the Scissor Friends last night. Wait what
- 3:30Speaker 1: is it? So we normally work with our producer Aristotle,
- 3:34Speaker 1: and he was near Alfred Molina a couple of days ago. Yes,
- 3:38Speaker 1: and oh wait, no, it's tomorrow. It's tomorrow. I think
- 3:41Speaker 1: he's gonna be near Alfred Billina on nine eleven. Never
- 3:46Speaker 1: forget Alfre Billina probably doesn't forget nine eleven, one of
- 3:52Speaker 1: the many amazing qualities he has. I've sent a lot
- 3:57Speaker 1: of confusion from the audience. Why are they talking about
- 4:01Speaker 1: Alfred Blayna so much on the podcast about the portrayal
- 4:04Speaker 1: of women in movies because Alfred Molina, well he's an ally,
- 4:09Speaker 1: he's our greatest ally probably. He's also a master of
- 4:16Speaker 1: his craft, and we just respect what he does so much,
- 4:19Speaker 1: beginning with the Royal Shakespeare Company in the late nineties seventies. Hey,
- 4:23Speaker 1: what's the rules our guest, I'll check it a little later. Okay,
- 4:30Speaker 1: oh yeah, without much further ado. So we have every
- 4:34Speaker 1: episode we we talked about a specific movie, and we
- 4:36Speaker 1: have a guest to help us. Not that we need it,
- 4:39Speaker 1: but we're happy to have our guests here. Our guest today,
- 4:45Speaker 1: we don't need him. Thanks for voluntaring your time, you
- 4:50Speaker 1: dumb bit. He's a friend of our she's a friend
- 4:59Speaker 1: of the cast. He's so funny. He's a local comic
- 5:01Speaker 1: here in Boston. Give it up for Sam. Thank you,
- 5:14Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. I love how it just started
- 5:19Speaker 1: with we basically we just came on until this guy.
- 5:22Speaker 1: We didn't want him, we did not need him. We're
- 5:26Speaker 1: just saying we could, we could do it alone. We've
- 5:31Speaker 1: never had a live podcast with alive man before. Most
- 5:35Speaker 1: of our male guests are kidd evers, but we we
- 5:41Speaker 1: we recording studio in our studio. We are studio. We're millionaires.
- 5:47Speaker 1: We only recording in the studio that we usually restrain
- 5:50Speaker 1: the male guest depending on how threatening they seem with
- 5:53Speaker 1: any assortment of Bungee's chains. SAMs says a bungee guy.
- 5:58Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, he's not gonna hurt us. I'm easily
- 6:00Speaker 1: the weakest man in this block. I don't think Sam
- 6:07Speaker 1: could escape the bungees. Well, Sam, thank you so much
- 6:13Speaker 1: for being here and for bringing us the movie Men
- 6:15Speaker 1: in Black? Tell us why is there a special isn't
- 6:21Speaker 1: you chose this movie? What's your history with it? How
- 6:23Speaker 1: many times you've seen it? I believe in aliens because
- 6:27Speaker 1: of this movie. Okay, I bought into it. I saw
- 6:30Speaker 1: it and I was like, that seems accurate. And this
- 6:38Speaker 1: is more of like an indoctrination. Someone told me I
- 6:43Speaker 1: could talk about in a movie for an hour, and
- 6:45Speaker 1: I was like, oh, and I could convince people that
- 6:47Speaker 1: aliens exist. Great, I'm really excited to come so Okay, Well, honestly,
- 7:04Speaker 1: I think there probably is. I mean, the universe is infinite.
- 7:08Speaker 1: Here's what happened, all right, let me start over. Well
- 7:11Speaker 1: you know what happened? I don't. I'm looking started at
- 7:17Speaker 1: the beginning. Well, when did you see the movie? I
- 7:21Speaker 1: saw ninety six when he came out. I think he
- 7:23Speaker 1: came out of ninety six ninety seven? Is that you
- 7:28Speaker 1: Jamie's mother? She cannot have placed herself in a more
- 7:36Speaker 1: prominent places. She basically has a spotlight? Did you know
- 7:44Speaker 1: that beforehand? Absolutely? I saw it saves around in It's
- 7:52Speaker 1: Just Your Life was ninety five skip ninety six, So
- 7:59Speaker 1: you saw it early when it came out, Yeah, multiple times.
- 8:02Speaker 1: I loved it. I used to when my friends, I
- 8:05Speaker 1: used to try to sapplemtory. Yeahs called what's it called?
- 8:10Speaker 1: What's that? They called the neuralize? Yeah, I shot and
- 8:13Speaker 1: neuralize my friends. Didn't they have nose neuralized movie? I
- 8:25Speaker 1: love how interactive of the show. This it's a live event, dynamic.
- 8:31Speaker 1: There's neuralizers. Didn't they have them at like Burger King
- 8:35Speaker 1: or something? There was like Burger King and kind of
- 8:37Speaker 1: black Boys, and I very specifically remember wanting Yeah it
- 8:40Speaker 1: came with that, and it came and then it was
- 8:42Speaker 1: a little alien from the video. Yeah. First of all,
- 8:47Speaker 1: I love that, Like there's just an era with movies
- 8:50Speaker 1: with family friendly rapped theme songs. This is one of
- 8:55Speaker 1: the best. It's not better than Wild Wild West. The
- 8:58Speaker 1: theme song Wall West his fants house singing I loved
- 9:01Speaker 1: l O cou j deep blue c Yeah, I'm a
- 9:05Speaker 1: shark Fin song was called shark Fit. Yeah. Have you
- 9:12Speaker 1: heard it? Ladies love Cold Chance, I'll check it out.
- 9:21Speaker 1: One of my favorite movies, Master of Disguise. They failed,
- 9:25Speaker 1: Dana Carr ended Dana Carvey's career. Davia Carby is amazing.
- 9:29Speaker 1: He's still alive today given the fact that this movie exists.
- 9:32Speaker 1: But he u there was a rap theme song for that,
- 9:37Speaker 1: but no one saw the movie and the song was garbage.
- 9:41Speaker 1: So I'm always disappointed when a movie has a bad
- 9:45Speaker 1: rap song like that was the reason why. Then like Carol, Yeah,
- 9:49Speaker 1: rap song and Carol was terrible. It just like didn't Yeah,
- 9:52Speaker 1: it didn't fit the movie. Check came rap imagine great
- 10:04Speaker 1: with that, I think, yeah, you gotta go. I mean,
- 10:13Speaker 1: I think that Carol is going to have a second
- 10:15Speaker 1: coming featuring Rooney Merrit and with this a little alien,
- 10:29Speaker 1: black alien story, I'm speaking at home man in black. Um,
- 10:42Speaker 1: when did you first see it, Jamie? Did you see
- 10:44Speaker 1: it with your mom in Well, I certainly didn't see
- 10:49Speaker 1: it in I know, I didn't I think I was
- 10:53Speaker 1: too young to see it when it came out, but
- 10:55Speaker 1: I remember watching it with my cousin on VHS probably
- 10:59Speaker 1: some time. I never like two thousands, and I remember
- 11:02Speaker 1: I remember seeing the burgs king toys and not knowing
- 11:04Speaker 1: what they were, but being like, well, aliens and ghost
- 11:07Speaker 1: or for sure real. So I'm gonna want to like,
- 11:10Speaker 1: I wish I could get in the ground floor of this.
- 11:11Speaker 1: Unfortunately I don't have all my teeth. So so you
- 11:18Speaker 1: also are on the pro aliens exist side of things.
- 11:22Speaker 1: I feel stronger about ghosts, but I do believe in aliens. Yes,
- 11:27Speaker 1: I mean we've already talked about the movie Ghost, so yeah,
- 11:31Speaker 1: we that's their ghosts exists. Yeah. What I was gonna
- 11:39Speaker 1: say is that I saw this movie in n when
- 11:42Speaker 1: it came out, Just to keep clarifying, that's the year
- 11:46Speaker 1: that it checking in changes. I was eleven and I
- 11:54Speaker 1: had a nextissential next you're having on them right now
- 12:01Speaker 1: out a body experience. Were about to say, I was
- 12:07Speaker 1: having an existential thank you, that's a girl crisis. Because
- 12:19Speaker 1: at the end of the movie, the galaxy and it
- 12:21Speaker 1: was on a Ryan's belt and then it's like zoom
- 12:24Speaker 1: out and its whole funt and it's big aliens playing
- 12:28Speaker 1: with a marble case full of little galaxies, and I
- 12:32Speaker 1: was like, my life is so insignificant. And I didn't
- 12:37Speaker 1: believe in God after that. So it didn't convince you
- 12:41Speaker 1: aliens existed, but it did rob you of faith. Correct.
- 12:48Speaker 1: I used to think that. Every time I saw marbles,
- 12:50Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I have earth. I'm thought big.
- 12:59Speaker 1: I think that is a very interesting male female profestive. Right,
- 13:04Speaker 1: Like I don't exist, and it says like I should
- 13:15Speaker 1: I do? In the recap, let's do the Men in Black.
- 13:21Speaker 1: We opened on Tommy Lee Jones and his older white
- 13:25Speaker 1: man partner, and then they're not and they're finding aliens
- 13:32Speaker 1: because guess what aliens live among us? But they work
- 13:36Speaker 1: for this entity called what is it? Sex? In section six?
- 13:41Speaker 1: Section six. In the beginning, the border Patrol keeps going,
- 13:45Speaker 1: there is no section six. You're struggling with talking to
- 13:53Speaker 1: I think I think that's what it was. Yeah, right,
- 13:56Speaker 1: they're the men in Black. The older one guy is like,
- 14:00Speaker 1: I'm getting too old for this ship. And then uh
- 14:03Speaker 1: so they need to recruit and train replacement. And meanwhile,
- 14:08Speaker 1: Will Smith is an n y p D police officer.
- 14:12Speaker 1: In plain clothes, like really stylish, like orange baggy windbreaker pants,
- 14:19Speaker 1: like stolen from the Fresh Prince said, people are like
- 14:23Speaker 1: the fifth bad Boy. It was like Diddy May's baby
- 14:29Speaker 1: Will so four. So like if one of them got sick,
- 14:35Speaker 1: you could just sub Yeah, he can understand, I'm to die.
- 14:46Speaker 1: I'm sorry, sorry, that's anyway. So, so Will Smith is
- 15:01Speaker 1: chasing a dude and he's also it's kind of hot. Yeah,
- 15:07Speaker 1: but he's also an alien and his eyes blinked that way. Um,
- 15:10Speaker 1: no guy running away not hot? Oh well, will smim
- 15:13Speaker 1: hot hot. I was gonna get into an argument. I
- 15:16Speaker 1: was like, are you serious? I thought you were talking
- 15:18Speaker 1: about the alien. So they like pinpoint Will Smith is
- 15:23Speaker 1: a potential, like oh maybe he could be a man
- 15:25Speaker 1: in black. And then so then Tommy Leader was like, yeah,
- 15:32Speaker 1: how about him, and they like recruit him in and
- 15:34Speaker 1: then they train him in and he's like, oh wow,
- 15:36Speaker 1: there's there's aliens. Okay, I'll just give up the life
- 15:39Speaker 1: that I had before, which really wasn't much of one.
- 15:44Speaker 1: He had nothing to lose, Yeah, you just had that
- 15:47Speaker 1: orange jumpsuit. So then there's this bug who lands on
- 15:53Speaker 1: planet Earth and he's caused all kinds of mayhem around
- 15:56Speaker 1: New York City? Ever heard of it? And then we
- 16:01Speaker 1: gotta get this bug. And meanwhile there's a galaxy on
- 16:04Speaker 1: a little cat's collar and they're like, well, what what
- 16:06Speaker 1: does Oriyan's belt? That doesn't make any sense. I'm doing
- 16:08Speaker 1: an excellent job in this cat. You're welcome, And so
- 16:13Speaker 1: they have to catch the bugs bugs after this galaxy
- 16:16Speaker 1: isn't it is? Vincent dinafil the book? Yeah, the book
- 16:21Speaker 1: takes Vincent not feel skin and where's it? Okay, okay, okay,
- 16:25Speaker 1: so really quick, Vincent did not feel hot? Yeah, trying
- 16:29Speaker 1: to make sure I was keeping up right. I used
- 16:31Speaker 1: to love making that face, the face that I just
- 16:44Speaker 1: realized it's a podcasting. I was a face the face
- 16:52Speaker 1: I would not have guessed you could have done it. Amazing,
- 16:55Speaker 1: Vincent Dina, you put in the time, wait till we
- 16:59Speaker 1: do moment jacket? Who would you be in full metal jacket?
- 17:08Speaker 1: That character or that? Yeah? I never anyway, So they
- 17:16Speaker 1: get the bug in the end, Wait, there's a there's
- 17:24Speaker 1: a lady at one point, You're right, right, So all
- 17:32Speaker 1: these dead bodies are turning up that are actually alien
- 17:36Speaker 1: dead bodies, and this coroner she's like working at the
- 17:39Speaker 1: Morgen where are these alien dead bodies? And then a
- 17:42Speaker 1: flashy thinger all the time, which is low key gas lighting.
- 17:46Speaker 1: And she's cute, she's hot hot, uh and yeah, so
- 17:53Speaker 1: she's a character at the end, and she's she's also
- 18:00Speaker 1: horny at least pretends to be. It's confused. She points
- 18:06Speaker 1: at her vagina at one point in the movie, and
- 18:08Speaker 1: it's like just kidding. Yeah, we'll talk about that scene.
- 18:13Speaker 1: It's a poorly written joke. It's it's unclear like did
- 18:17Speaker 1: she mean it or did she just point her vagina
- 18:19Speaker 1: by mistake. I find myself doing that all the time
- 18:24Speaker 1: in professional situations, like, I'm so sorry that was in
- 18:29Speaker 1: volunteer being a woman in the work. Yeah, I confirmed,
- 18:38Speaker 1: I was very There's a scene in the beginning when
- 18:41Speaker 1: you first meet her where Tommy Lee Jones and Will
- 18:43Speaker 1: Smith they walk in and she's talking to just Will
- 18:47Speaker 1: Smith and Tommy ly Jones looking at what are the
- 18:49Speaker 1: bodies and she says to Will Smith, she says, you
- 18:52Speaker 1: know what I like to do when it gets really
- 18:54Speaker 1: late here, and then Tommy le Jones cuts in. But
- 18:57Speaker 1: when I was a kid, I hid because I didn't understand,
- 19:01Speaker 1: like Sacks. I thought she just like lit the body
- 19:05Speaker 1: is on fire. I had no idea it was like
- 19:09Speaker 1: a sexual man. I was so confused. I was like,
- 19:13Speaker 1: why aren't they dressing that the rest? Now as an adult,
- 19:16Speaker 1: I'm like, she's saying she fucks the that is she's
- 19:20Speaker 1: saying that. I thought she was saying she does something
- 19:26Speaker 1: unrelated to the bodies. But now since we've opened up that,
- 19:33Speaker 1: what is she doing with those bodies is robbing them?
- 19:37Speaker 1: Oh maybe she's maybe she's harvesting their organs. That's savvy.
- 19:41Speaker 1: That would be a more interesting character than she is
- 19:49Speaker 1: would have been in the market. I don't know. I
- 19:54Speaker 1: thought like, maybe she They can't be saying she sucks
- 19:57Speaker 1: the bodies so weird, there's no way. There's a lot
- 20:01Speaker 1: of sexual innuendos in this movie that don't quite land
- 20:04Speaker 1: like we're just like there's a little uncanny valley, like
- 20:07Speaker 1: what you aren't like, what are they saying? Do they
- 20:10Speaker 1: like each other? Like it's unclear? Is this a romantic plotline?
- 20:14Speaker 1: Is well? What was like? And then she's still under
- 20:18Speaker 1: value and she's not in the sequel either, right, Well,
- 20:22Speaker 1: because they set up at the end because like Tommy
- 20:25Speaker 1: Lee Jones is like, I wasn't training a partner, I
- 20:27Speaker 1: was training a replacement. And then he retires, which is
- 20:31Speaker 1: crazy because it's Will Smith's second day. Crazy. I think
- 20:41Speaker 1: you got it. Yeah, So he retires and then Will
- 20:46Speaker 1: Smith and Dr Weaver the coroner is like, I've been
- 20:50Speaker 1: around aliens enough. One day's worth, that's all. And she
- 20:54Speaker 1: ends up being his partner. But it's set up so
- 20:57Speaker 1: that like, oh, she's going to be in the sequel,
- 20:59Speaker 1: and it can't be called and Black anymore. Psych it's
- 21:02Speaker 1: still two men and she's never heard from again. Yeah,
- 21:08Speaker 1: he flashy. Think my theory is she turned forty and
- 21:11Speaker 1: they're just like wow, because we all know how much
- 21:16Speaker 1: people love casting women over forty. They don't. It does not,
- 21:21Speaker 1: we don't do it. Let's get Tommy Lee Jones body double.
- 21:24Speaker 1: Let's have him Tommy Lee Jones hot in this movie.
- 21:27Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's true. Is he hotter than Tony Shaloub's
- 21:31Speaker 1: little head? Cannot get any hotter Tony little Yeah, shout out. Oh.
- 21:46Speaker 1: So if we're saying what part in this movie would
- 21:49Speaker 1: Alfred Molina have had, because I'm sure he was offered
- 21:52Speaker 1: a part. He's a town um could he have done
- 21:57Speaker 1: Schaloub's part, or could Chalou's part only have been done
- 21:59Speaker 1: by schlu I wouldn't have recast Tony Shalou. Who could we?
- 22:04Speaker 1: Who could be? You know? He could have been Tommy
- 22:06Speaker 1: Lee Jones. He could have been Tommy Jones. Could have
- 22:09Speaker 1: been Ripped Torn, could have been could have been It
- 22:12Speaker 1: would have been a good set get out. I always
- 22:16Speaker 1: confuse Ripped Horn who someone? I could go either way
- 22:18Speaker 1: on with meat love with someone. I feel very strongly.
- 22:25Speaker 1: Here's what Alfre William might have been doing instead. He
- 22:28Speaker 1: could have been filming Bookie Nights. He could have been
- 22:32Speaker 1: filming Anna Karenina. He's so he's so versatile. He could
- 22:37Speaker 1: have been preparing for his role in Dudley do Right.
- 22:43Speaker 1: The Brendan Fraser one that I think the Brendan Frasier.
- 22:47Speaker 1: Is there another It is bred Fer Brendon Frasier. I
- 22:54Speaker 1: think's gonna murder. I feel great. I do want to
- 23:04Speaker 1: talk more about So there are two female characters and
- 23:06Speaker 1: men in black, and just those two and no other
- 23:10Speaker 1: in New York City. Yeah. In one of them is
- 23:14Speaker 1: Vincent Dinafrio's wife. Her name is Beatrice. Beatrice. I'm just
- 23:22Speaker 1: repeating yeah, Beatrice, and she has very minimal screen time,
- 23:34Speaker 1: as does the other female character, doctor Laurel Weaver. I'd
- 23:38Speaker 1: say between the two of them, they might have an
- 23:40Speaker 1: added total of like twenty minutes of screen time. That
- 23:44Speaker 1: feels generous. Yeah, there's really when they say men in black,
- 23:55Speaker 1: something I wanted to point out about that movies with
- 23:58Speaker 1: like men or boys are like yeah in the title
- 24:02Speaker 1: are always action movies, superhero movies, exciting movies about people
- 24:07Speaker 1: kicking ass. Examples, Men and Black, X Men, Spider Man,
- 24:13Speaker 1: That Boys, No Country for Old Men, all the President's Men,
- 24:21Speaker 1: a few good men, the nice guys. Nice. Yeah, they're
- 24:26Speaker 1: like whoa what fun movies? And then movies with like
- 24:29Speaker 1: women or girl and the title are like dramas and
- 24:34Speaker 1: like Women, Little Women, twenty and Century Women, The Girl,
- 24:46Speaker 1: Mean Girls. Oh yeah, just a really good point that
- 24:51Speaker 1: I'm making, Girl Spice Girls, someone participates. Check out our
- 25:01Speaker 1: Spice World episode of The Girls Girls. Yeah, reason movie. Yeah,
- 25:09Speaker 1: generally they're more about like interpersonal relationships. I'm not saying
- 25:12Speaker 1: that's a bad thing, but I'm just saying like there's
- 25:14Speaker 1: a disparity between the two types of action versus like
- 25:18Speaker 1: a fluffy or it's about women connecting hate it enalien already, right, women.
- 25:28Speaker 1: So that's just something I wanted to share with you all,
- 25:33Speaker 1: and you're welcome. I mean it's tricky because this is okay.
- 25:41Speaker 1: So this is maybe the millionth time on this podcast
- 25:45Speaker 1: that we have come up against a summer blockbuster movie
- 25:48Speaker 1: that is pretty well loved. I still enjoy this movie.
- 25:52Speaker 1: I think it's a fun block hole written wrong. Yeah, Galaxy,
- 25:58Speaker 1: it's fun. A theme song is dope. But they all
- 26:03Speaker 1: these movies have the one female character whose main thing
- 26:07Speaker 1: is you know, even if she is like to the
- 26:09Speaker 1: I guess this movie's credit, which I hesitates, but like,
- 26:13Speaker 1: you know, she's at least has a job and she's
- 26:18Speaker 1: a woman instead, she's a woman insteps. She appears to
- 26:22Speaker 1: know how to do her job until Tommy Lee Jones
- 26:25Speaker 1: keeps gaslighting her. That's upsetting, you mean by erasing her memory, Yeah,
- 26:30Speaker 1: realizing with her thinking out for burger king. But but
- 26:38Speaker 1: she's a character. She's not given a lot of screen time.
- 26:41Speaker 1: But it's the problem we always come up against, which
- 26:44Speaker 1: is like, there's no one for her to talk to you,
- 26:46Speaker 1: There's no other female character, no one for her to
- 26:48Speaker 1: talk to even being a scene with like it's just yeah,
- 26:51Speaker 1: she's surrounded by dead people. She's yeah, they alive people
- 26:55Speaker 1: that's not even alive alive. Well, she apparently works with
- 27:08Speaker 1: David Cross, who was like the receptionist of the YEA,
- 27:15Speaker 1: what are they talking about? I don't know. Yeah, someone's
- 27:24Speaker 1: rule number one of the board. It's gotta be sucking
- 27:29Speaker 1: these bodies, right, it's your first aid. Kid. When we
- 27:35Speaker 1: see like all the recruits, whenever the recruits, because they're like, oh,
- 27:38Speaker 1: these navy guys, these are like these military men. All
- 27:41Speaker 1: the people that they're considering for the new men in
- 27:44Speaker 1: Black job, all men. Not a woman even considered. You
- 27:48Speaker 1: see the scene when we are first introduced to like
- 27:51Speaker 1: the m IB headquarters, which basically still kind of looks
- 27:55Speaker 1: like the goog and I'm we see the Google Him
- 28:01Speaker 1: museum at the beginning, you're like, oh, that's cool, and
- 28:03Speaker 1: then you see m I V or like is it
- 28:05Speaker 1: the same? Is it back room? Anyways? It could be.
- 28:10Speaker 1: There are a few women in that scene, but it's
- 28:13Speaker 1: largely men. They're all the aliens. We see all men,
- 28:19Speaker 1: no lady, except for like you see like a screen
- 28:22Speaker 1: and Will Smith's teacher apart from that are apart from
- 28:26Speaker 1: like people who don't have any lines or just like
- 28:28Speaker 1: only sort of seen in the background. All the aliens
- 28:31Speaker 1: with speaking roles go to men. Big problem in Hollywood.
- 28:35Speaker 1: You know we're our female alien protagonists, right pretty five
- 28:43Speaker 1: queer sexuality, aliens of color? Where are That's like avatar?
- 28:52Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is why we let the guest pass.
- 29:05Speaker 1: There's I have I have something I'd like to address. Please, okay.
- 29:09Speaker 1: There's another trope in mostly nineties Arrow movies. Something that
- 29:14Speaker 1: terrified me as a child and I still find horrible
- 29:18Speaker 1: is there's a little pug in this movie, a little
- 29:21Speaker 1: pug informant. They make his mouth move like a person,
- 29:26Speaker 1: so that it's like he's a little person. I don't okay,
- 29:33Speaker 1: I find it scary. There's movies words because you know,
- 29:36Speaker 1: like fast forward five years it's c G I this
- 29:40Speaker 1: is some sort of scary practical effect. It looks real.
- 29:51Speaker 1: You think they're like hooked up like wires to the
- 29:53Speaker 1: dog dog Peanut Butter likes why it's all about she
- 30:06Speaker 1: hated freak. I don't like an animals time like they're people.
- 30:15Speaker 1: They're not people. There there's that movie Cats and Dogs.
- 30:20Speaker 1: That one is the worst because it's all just like
- 30:23Speaker 1: Nathan Lamb's voice coming out of a cat and you're
- 30:26Speaker 1: just like, no, like it's just scary. It's not. It
- 30:28Speaker 1: should be a cartoon. Okay. Also, male dog, there we go.
- 30:38Speaker 1: It's yeah again, where are all the female dogs with
- 30:41Speaker 1: speaking roles in Hollywood? That dog is so like it.
- 30:48Speaker 1: It's what about like babe sweary? No scary, that's nice? Scary? Yeah.
- 30:55Speaker 1: The mouth, well, because they're not like really blinking and
- 30:59Speaker 1: you're just like there and their eyes are glazed over
- 31:02Speaker 1: because they're kind of like edited in post production. I
- 31:04Speaker 1: would imagine. I think about it a lot, but there
- 31:08Speaker 1: they're not blinking in their eyes or they kind of
- 31:10Speaker 1: have like do you ever? Okay, here's something I find
- 31:12Speaker 1: scary in real life is when you meet someone they're like,
- 31:14Speaker 1: meet my dog, and you're like that dog has people eyes? Yeah?
- 31:18Speaker 1: Why the dog got the person's eyes and ready to
- 31:20Speaker 1: get them? Yeah, exactly. I think it's like one of
- 31:23Speaker 1: That's why I believe in aliens. I think it's like
- 31:25Speaker 1: an Edgar situation when they take a dog's body and
- 31:28Speaker 1: it's like it's like a vinc and doff Field. There's dog,
- 31:31Speaker 1: there's a little little dog dog dog listening. He's doing
- 31:40Speaker 1: very A few more points I want to make about
- 31:45Speaker 1: Dr Weaver's character. Her dress is insanely short, which is
- 31:50Speaker 1: an okay thing if you're a woman and you want
- 31:53Speaker 1: to wear a short dress, that's cool. But today pretty
- 31:57Speaker 1: much does a little appropriate no out a word place,
- 32:03Speaker 1: so she's like overly sexualized for no reason. They developed
- 32:07Speaker 1: her character so poorly that she doesn't even get to
- 32:10Speaker 1: have a reaction whenever the dude's face opens up and
- 32:13Speaker 1: there's like a little tiny alien it is, and she's
- 32:16Speaker 1: just like like how is she not? Like what the
- 32:22Speaker 1: actual fun? She has no reaction to it, and then
- 32:27Speaker 1: like until like maybe thirty seconds later, and she's like
- 32:30Speaker 1: I knew it. That is an alien, isn't it. And
- 32:33Speaker 1: it's like yeah, no, where can she like what's happening?
- 32:39Speaker 1: She's yeah, I mean And And that's another like female
- 32:42Speaker 1: blockbuster character thing is like her character changes from moment
- 32:46Speaker 1: to moment depending on what the scene required, like that shitty,
- 32:51Speaker 1: weird confusing there's a scene I forget what the executive
- 32:53Speaker 1: shechine is, but she's talking to Will Smith and she's
- 32:56Speaker 1: points to her vagina and he's like well, what do
- 32:59Speaker 1: you mean? And she's like no, I was pointing at
- 33:01Speaker 1: the floor, like and that serves no purpose in the
- 33:05Speaker 1: context of her character. It doesn't make any fucking sense.
- 33:07Speaker 1: It's just a bad joke that like the who wrote this,
- 33:10Speaker 1: Oh I bet it's uh so Ed Solomon's jerking off
- 33:15Speaker 1: at his house, Like I make a pretty late point.
- 33:25Speaker 1: It's just like a gross throwaway thing that it's like, oh,
- 33:28Speaker 1: here's something I could do with the female character. I
- 33:30Speaker 1: forgot to write right well, that scene before that one,
- 33:35Speaker 1: the bug comes in and like throws her all around
- 33:38Speaker 1: like pretty violently. It's like a pretty alarming to see,
- 33:40Speaker 1: like she's a bunch of violences inflected upon her. And
- 33:44Speaker 1: then he capt or. He's like still kind of fighting
- 33:47Speaker 1: fighting her. And then will Smith comes in and he's like, well,
- 33:50Speaker 1: I better hide under this cart and like holds her
- 33:53Speaker 1: ankle and she's like you need to help me with this,
- 33:56Speaker 1: and Will Smith's like, damn, girl, I kind of drive
- 34:00Speaker 1: though it's not a male female. I just gotta drive.
- 34:02Speaker 1: That's happen like dead on. I was like, is he here? Yeah?
- 34:14Speaker 1: Oh my god. After that we see whenever, like Will
- 34:18Speaker 1: Smith is like, oh, I get what's happening, And he's
- 34:21Speaker 1: like if you had been coming on to me like
- 34:23Speaker 1: a drunken trom day And she's like whenever a woman
- 34:27Speaker 1: shows any sign of sexual independence or something like that,
- 34:30Speaker 1: which is like one of those lines that we talked
- 34:31Speaker 1: about where it's like the writer just be like, oh,
- 34:34Speaker 1: here's one example, yeah, like of a like women empowerment,
- 34:39Speaker 1: which is not actually what is happening. No, because in
- 34:42Speaker 1: the next scene they're like, oh, she's in trouble. Someone
- 34:45Speaker 1: saved her. Like there, it's just yeah, she just captured
- 34:48Speaker 1: and thrown in a tree. That's a wish. There's a
- 34:54Speaker 1: big battle and she's up in the tree. Yeah, nothing
- 34:59Speaker 1: like like again it seems like, oh no, we forgot
- 35:02Speaker 1: she's in the scene. Um So then they give her
- 35:08Speaker 1: the last shot as like a thing, but it's like,
- 35:12Speaker 1: I don't know, it just feels so forced totally. Yeah,
- 35:15Speaker 1: so that because her character has been developed not at
- 35:18Speaker 1: all prior to that, she know how to do with
- 35:21Speaker 1: the like shoot the gun. I don't know. I thought
- 35:29Speaker 1: the Space it had a nail the Space Space gun, right,
- 35:39Speaker 1: Because so that climactic scene plays out where the bug
- 35:43Speaker 1: he's ripped out of his vincent Dinofrio skin and now
- 35:47Speaker 1: he's a big cockroach dude and he's trying to get
- 35:50Speaker 1: up to the spaceship Tommy ly Jones, He's like, eat me,
- 35:53Speaker 1: and then he eats him. Funny, So the cody in
- 35:58Speaker 1: this movie, you guys giggled, So Tommily Jones was like
- 36:03Speaker 1: swimming around in the cockroach monster alien for like five minutes,
- 36:11Speaker 1: not drowning somehow. Will Smith is all like, I'm gonna
- 36:15Speaker 1: stomp on your relatives. Finally Tommily Jones burst out with
- 36:19Speaker 1: his space gun. There's a moment where passing notes answer
- 36:27Speaker 1: the cricket the noisy crick is a little one that
- 36:30Speaker 1: Will Smith has, and then the big one was called
- 36:36Speaker 1: I'll get back to you anyway. So the movie, because
- 36:45Speaker 1: like that one last moment was like, oh no, the
- 36:47Speaker 1: aliens not dead and he goes to pounce on him,
- 36:50Speaker 1: and then dr weavers like no, not today, and uh
- 36:59Speaker 1: and she the alien dead again and then she said
- 37:02Speaker 1: something like interesting job you guys have. And then we're
- 37:07Speaker 1: all supposed to be like you go girl, except no,
- 37:09Speaker 1: because her character fucking sexs. Like nineties movies are riddled
- 37:13Speaker 1: with you go girl moments like this, and I feel
- 37:17Speaker 1: like the only reason they're in there is that like
- 37:19Speaker 1: there's some studio meeting where they're like, wait, but how
- 37:22Speaker 1: are we going to sell shipped to girls about this movie?
- 37:25Speaker 1: And they're like, let the let the lady kick one time.
- 37:28Speaker 1: And I first said, look, I can kick too, and
- 37:31Speaker 1: then and then we'll put a flower on a T shirt,
- 37:34Speaker 1: will throw a lady's face on it five million dollars.
- 37:39Speaker 1: And obviously it would have been fine for her to
- 37:43Speaker 1: like kick get In fact, I would have preferred her
- 37:45Speaker 1: to do more gass kicking throughout the movie. So yeah,
- 37:47Speaker 1: she's just only given that one moment. It's all utilitary,
- 37:50Speaker 1: like it's just I mean, no, the time was spent
- 37:53Speaker 1: developing her character whatsoever, which is crazy because they set
- 37:57Speaker 1: it up that she's gonna be the next man. And
- 38:00Speaker 1: in Black you Wuldsmith dressed up like Morpheus. Oh yeah,
- 38:05Speaker 1: he's got new sunglasses and they're I guess cooler than
- 38:11Speaker 1: he's got the Morpheus look. And so the last thing
- 38:14Speaker 1: of this movie is really funny because he's like, Okay,
- 38:17Speaker 1: it's Will Smith's second day. He's in charge now, and
- 38:21Speaker 1: then there's he walks toris dr we were and it's
- 38:24Speaker 1: her first day as a man in black and she's
- 38:27Speaker 1: wearing the suit and she looks dope, and as Willspenth's
- 38:31Speaker 1: walking over to her, she like says loudly a government secret.
- 38:35Speaker 1: And it's like it's like an alien and it's like, oh,
- 38:44Speaker 1: they're both bad at this. I don't know do they
- 38:50Speaker 1: say in the second one why they got rid of her.
- 38:53Speaker 1: I'm trying trying to figure because the second one, if
- 38:57Speaker 1: you don't know, two thousand two and Tommy Lee Jones
- 39:01Speaker 1: is just in it again. What was what was it
- 39:03Speaker 1: called Men and Black to That was my first guest,
- 39:10Speaker 1: but I don't want to sell him an idiot. But
- 39:13Speaker 1: the polster the poster is and then two Roman numeral
- 39:23Speaker 1: eyes black, so it looks like men Too Black. We're
- 39:30Speaker 1: just the name of my boys to men cover back. Oh.
- 39:36Speaker 1: Nick Cannon is in Men and Black Too. Oh yeah, yeah,
- 39:40Speaker 1: he's like one of the young guns. I don't even know.
- 39:43Speaker 1: This is like a drum line era Nick Can. Yeah,
- 39:46Speaker 1: not like scary wizard Nick Kid Nick Cannon today, it's
- 39:55Speaker 1: very scary. Black Too also has Michael Jackson. Really, I
- 40:00Speaker 1: don't know if I've ever seen Men Too Blacks. He
- 40:06Speaker 1: wants to be an agent, and he just keeps Michael
- 40:09Speaker 1: Jackson as a Martha Stewart as herself an alien. I
- 40:16Speaker 1: know she's as herself as an alien. I think, yeah,
- 40:22Speaker 1: she is an alien. She it. I love this movie.
- 40:32Speaker 1: It was like my favorite movie for like two years.
- 40:35Speaker 1: It's between a discourse moment. Okay, this is the sort
- 40:41Speaker 1: of movie where people like it. It's a good movie.
- 40:45Speaker 1: People don't necessarily think about oh, you know, it takes
- 40:49Speaker 1: a second before you're like, oh, there are no women
- 40:51Speaker 1: in this movie. That is strange. We're in a major
- 40:55Speaker 1: metropolitan area and there's no women. Right. There's like we
- 41:00Speaker 1: could like, like I said, we could have seen any
- 41:02Speaker 1: of the recruits could have been like I don't know
- 41:05Speaker 1: half of them could have been women. There are women
- 41:07Speaker 1: in the military. Uh fucking hate massagey. Thanks. Yeah, in
- 41:22Speaker 1: Alien women there have been. They only have the pregnant one.
- 41:27Speaker 1: Oh okay, any visual gag. That's that's the only alien
- 41:35Speaker 1: woman you've seen it, right, That's another the same moment
- 41:39Speaker 1: where Tommy Lee Jones goes up to the car and
- 41:42Speaker 1: then he's like, what's going on here? He's like, my
- 41:44Speaker 1: wife's having a baby. And then and then Tommy Lee
- 41:46Speaker 1: Jones looks in the bag. It's like, oh, yeah, there's
- 41:48Speaker 1: a woman giving birth, Like there's yeah, what interesting? I
- 41:54Speaker 1: think you know that's a bold that's a bold visual gag. Yeah,
- 41:59Speaker 1: she screaming. Yeah, I did not see that she's giving
- 42:07Speaker 1: birth to a fucking squid, Like squid things are coming out,
- 42:12Speaker 1: But how do you not notice? It's essentially tentacal porn.
- 42:18Speaker 1: I mean, I have conflicting feelings about that scene because
- 42:21Speaker 1: on one hand, it's like a women's issue is made
- 42:23Speaker 1: out to be a joke, okay, but also childbirth is terrifying,
- 42:28Speaker 1: So I'm like, yeah, I get it. I'd love to
- 42:36Speaker 1: get birth through a squirre someday. Let's just move on
- 42:41Speaker 1: right from that, and I'm not talking about any further.
- 42:44Speaker 1: It's so weird how like all the men in black
- 42:47Speaker 1: are because they have the suit, they automatically know how
- 42:51Speaker 1: to do everything. Like it's always like always like okay, hey,
- 42:56Speaker 1: just walk in there and tell him you're a doctor
- 42:58Speaker 1: because they're gonna believe you because you're a man in
- 42:59Speaker 1: a suit. And then yeah, they don't show any badgers.
- 43:02Speaker 1: They just walk right in and it's just like, yeah,
- 43:05Speaker 1: I fucking hate man. Yeah, they just walk in there like, hey,
- 43:11Speaker 1: I'm good at something. They're just going to tell people
- 43:17Speaker 1: I'm like what I was like pointing my vagina on accident,
- 43:24Speaker 1: and then if you dare question them or don't believe them,
- 43:27Speaker 1: they have a gas lighting stick to be like, I'm
- 43:31Speaker 1: kind of things I gi Oh. Yeah, this is a
- 43:38Speaker 1: triumph for for for young boys trying to learn how
- 43:41Speaker 1: to Kivin's Women of Less. Yeah. Don't want to talk
- 43:45Speaker 1: at all about the other female character, Beatrice. Yeah, I mean,
- 43:51Speaker 1: what's there to say. In the first scene, you don't
- 43:56Speaker 1: even see her. You just hear her getting yelled at. Ye.
- 44:00Speaker 1: He's like verbally abusing her, and then he comes in
- 44:04Speaker 1: he's like sugar, sugar, and she's just like, okay, I'm
- 44:09Speaker 1: a domestic person. That's all I could do. Then she
- 44:11Speaker 1: gives us chapel and sugar water okay, and she just
- 44:15Speaker 1: like when he's like, Sugar, you're not the only one
- 44:26Speaker 1: who can do them. I wasn't. I didn't get this
- 44:30Speaker 1: email and we were supposed to arrive with it. Yeah,
- 44:39Speaker 1: I mean she's like done as rocks and major idiot alert. Yeah.
- 44:45Speaker 1: Written by Ed Solomon. To be clear, every time we
- 44:48Speaker 1: criticize if female character were actually thinking about throwing Ed Solomon? Whoever?
- 44:52Speaker 1: That that is off the building right. He co wrote
- 44:57Speaker 1: the first Charlie's Angels I Think, and he might really good.
- 45:02Speaker 1: He wrote Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, Bill and Ted's
- 45:08Speaker 1: Focus Journey, The Men of Black Movies, The Charlie's Angels movies,
- 45:12Speaker 1: and some X Men movies, Super Mario Good. He started
- 45:23Speaker 1: as a staff writer for loa Vernon Surely, which honestly, like,
- 45:25Speaker 1: there's no excuse, like you you have written for female
- 45:30Speaker 1: characters before. You just are actively like does the world
- 45:35Speaker 1: really need welcome? I would expect better from the person
- 45:40Speaker 1: who wrote the best Lucy lou movie ever. Why is
- 45:44Speaker 1: it Carlos Charlie's Angels. Why can't I just be like
- 45:47Speaker 1: three kick ass ladies who don't belong to anyone, like
- 45:54Speaker 1: a pretty lunchbox. Yeah, I think that's a fine. I don't. Unsurprisingly,
- 46:03Speaker 1: most of the people involved in the production of this
- 46:05Speaker 1: movie are men. There is a female producer on the movie,
- 46:09Speaker 1: but it's directed by Barry son Enfeld, who directed Get Shorty,
- 46:16Speaker 1: various Adams Family movies, Big Trouble, Big Big Trouble with
- 46:21Speaker 1: Tim Allen. It was it was a movie about a
- 46:24Speaker 1: bomb on an airplane. It was supposed to come out
- 46:27Speaker 1: and so at least they was supposed to be September twelve,
- 46:30Speaker 1: two thousand eleven back and he got looked back two yes,
- 46:38Speaker 1: the year you know you know it was that yes, yeah,
- 46:51Speaker 1: not good. Yeah. He directed that one and the Rob
- 46:54Speaker 1: Williams Vehicle RV SO another another movie that is feminist.
- 46:59Speaker 1: Icon are signed. Can I say know that Danny Elfman
- 47:05Speaker 1: score to this movie is like my favorite score of
- 47:09Speaker 1: not all time, but of a movie about do so
- 47:17Speaker 1: good Daniel Dannie Elfman will be spared. Yeah, yeah, well
- 47:22Speaker 1: he'll be spared because we need to get new things
- 47:25Speaker 1: time we This movie made a million billion dollars. Yeah,
- 47:31Speaker 1: the summer blockbuster that did really well was made by men.
- 47:34Speaker 1: There's only men in it. One ladies in it. But
- 47:37Speaker 1: she has to pointed her vagina and has to skirt
- 47:39Speaker 1: and also was bad at being a man in black.
- 47:42Speaker 1: Yeah you can tell at the end or you're like, oh, yeah,
- 47:46Speaker 1: she's unqualified like she as is Will Smith. He had
- 47:53Speaker 1: one day on the job. Does anyone have any other
- 47:57Speaker 1: final points about the movie. It's great film, some issues,
- 48:11Speaker 1: got some issues. I'm sure the best out of the three.
- 48:15Speaker 1: The Men in we were talking about the seg one side.
- 48:23Speaker 1: I forgot we didn't mention that that there was a
- 48:25Speaker 1: third right when that's the one I think time travel happens. Yeah,
- 48:30Speaker 1: that's still rolling. Yeah, they go like I think they
- 48:33Speaker 1: go to like the six season. They go back and
- 48:35Speaker 1: then it's like back for something like that. It's like
- 48:37Speaker 1: a it's a time jump. Was that one straight to
- 48:41Speaker 1: video or did know that? At a theatrical twelve? Yeah,
- 48:47Speaker 1: it was like if you put the Terminator plotline with
- 48:49Speaker 1: Men in Black, because which should be a winner? That's
- 48:54Speaker 1: it was sad. Did you see it? No? Oh god,
- 48:57Speaker 1: it's so sad. Did you see it? Did you cry?
- 49:00Speaker 1: It's so sad at he it's fucking sad. Man I cried. Sorry.
- 49:11Speaker 1: It's like as sad as the first twenty minutes of Up, Like,
- 49:14Speaker 1: it's that sad. Like it's that sad. That's that's sad.
- 49:22Speaker 1: You have to The ending is just like Jones, you
- 49:25Speaker 1: don't care does Tommy ly Jones die? Know what happens
- 49:29Speaker 1: is you find out that Will Smith's father sacrifice his
- 49:34Speaker 1: life to save Tommy Lee Jones, and Tommy Lee Jones
- 49:38Speaker 1: has been like secretly watching Will Smith this whole time,
- 49:42Speaker 1: and then you see at the end you see Will
- 49:43Speaker 1: Smith as a child hunched over his dead father's body.
- 49:48Speaker 1: And then yeah, because this is in the sixties and
- 49:52Speaker 1: so and so, he he fucking neuralizes Will Smith as
- 49:56Speaker 1: a kid. And it's just like Duke it's and it
- 50:02Speaker 1: is an absolute boner killer. It is the saddest fucking
- 50:08Speaker 1: thing I know, right, Mrs sad Jack But what the jackhammer?
- 50:16Speaker 1: Has that done? The jackman? Oh good, I get it.
- 50:21Speaker 1: It had like a sciency name because because the joke
- 50:24Speaker 1: was John Lee, Joe says a sciency name and then
- 50:26Speaker 1: he goes, no, he's a cricket, and that's like the joke.
- 50:40Speaker 1: Hand I think Sam's my new daddy was in the cast. Yeah,
- 50:57Speaker 1: we've never got a new daddy's. No, because we have
- 51:03Speaker 1: a lot of audience. Should we open it up to
- 51:05Speaker 1: any questions or yeah, what do you want? Oh okay,
- 51:09Speaker 1: I'll start here, Oh yeah kind of, I'm sure. Hi, friends, Hilma,
- 51:15Speaker 1: I was wondering if you were to recast the lead
- 51:18Speaker 1: roles with women, how would you recast? Are we going
- 51:22Speaker 1: today or were doing in nineties steven nineties? Um? I
- 51:32Speaker 1: don't know what do you guys, I'm gonna go with
- 51:34Speaker 1: today's people. I would do like Zendia as Will Smith's character.
- 51:40Speaker 1: Um anything, Harry Jones, I want our return, that's good. Yeah,
- 51:48Speaker 1: I want Laura turned to uh neuralize the tiny Zendia
- 51:54Speaker 1: when her mommy. I would love Julianne Moore and Ali Wong.
- 52:03Speaker 1: I think that would be a fun. It was like
- 52:12Speaker 1: Ripped Horns character. I feel like we need, we need.
- 52:23Speaker 1: I'll really qualifies for an all female read. He transsgender.
- 52:28Speaker 1: He's so talented. Swinton would be great as Vincent Dinofrios characters. Yeah,
- 52:35Speaker 1: I would love that. Let's just do that. Start to
- 52:41Speaker 1: go find me. The work was Super Troopers to did it?
- 52:47Speaker 1: Did any other have some more questions? Yeah? Alright, I'm
- 52:51Speaker 1: Kyle off of the tilta Swinton point. Apparently they almost
- 52:54Speaker 1: cast her as Penny Wise and the most recent it
- 52:57Speaker 1: would have been way better casting anyway. Point I was
- 53:00Speaker 1: going to make was have any of you seen under
- 53:02Speaker 1: the Skin because Scar Joe is a great female alien protagonist.
- 53:07Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. I want to declare as a
- 53:14Speaker 1: woman I have it. Yeah, so sorry, but we will
- 53:23Speaker 1: anyry question, um so Lara from Boyle was jackr. Rab's character,
- 53:28Speaker 1: and I was just wondering if she's still alive. I
- 53:36Speaker 1: wasn't trying to be stupid. Wait, I got her. I mean, yeah,
- 53:44Speaker 1: that was a while ago. She because it was she
- 53:47Speaker 1: was Sarlena in the second when she was the bad
- 53:49Speaker 1: she was the battie. It was her, and she had
- 53:52Speaker 1: Knoxville Johnny knoxfilld was her like number two. You know.
- 54:00Speaker 1: I was reading Chris o'donald, who's Robin and the Schumacher Batman.
- 54:12Speaker 1: I love Tigerland, I love the Albert thousand before I
- 54:15Speaker 1: didn't see that one. That one I didn't see is
- 54:17Speaker 1: Spiler sold I read on IMDb that Chris o'donald was
- 54:28Speaker 1: almost Will Smith's character. It was. It was Crystal Donald,
- 54:31Speaker 1: David Schwimmer, and Will Smith. And I think if one
- 54:35Speaker 1: of those two guys had got it, him and Linda
- 54:38Speaker 1: Florentino would have kissed at the end of the movie.
- 54:40Speaker 1: And I think because it was I think that big
- 54:43Speaker 1: of a budget of a movie, they weren't going to
- 54:44Speaker 1: have an interracial kiss. Oh interesting for ninety I mean
- 54:50Speaker 1: that that checks out on that my mom, right, it
- 54:57Speaker 1: should have been okay and they didn't think it would
- 54:59Speaker 1: go I love intertional relationships to literally just keep telling
- 55:18Speaker 1: Sam she's singles. I know, we don't need to go
- 55:24Speaker 1: over your relationships as literally in the fetal my fine
- 55:37Speaker 1: end of a movie, like in Going with the Wind,
- 55:40Speaker 1: they didn't know if they were going to go. Frankly,
- 55:41Speaker 1: what are I talkingational? I didn't know will work? Who
- 55:51Speaker 1: knows any other questions? Yeah, it's going on. I just
- 55:59Speaker 1: wanted to come up. Get that. Caitlin has a master's
- 56:03Speaker 1: degree for Thank you the help countries. Do you know
- 56:11Speaker 1: that I hate to bring it up? Want to bring
- 56:16Speaker 1: it up? I do? And we are at Boston. Yeah,
- 56:19Speaker 1: so uh any be you o kids down here? Oh yeah, yeah,
- 56:24Speaker 1: so shout out to my bu heads you yeah, be
- 56:30Speaker 1: you calmuck? Yeah our sponsored Hey, let's talk about whether
- 56:38Speaker 1: or not this movie passes the BACKTI test. No, well,
- 56:52Speaker 1: nothing to ask. There aren't even like two women in
- 56:57Speaker 1: the same room at any point. Sometimes we have like
- 57:00Speaker 1: near like we're oh, kire and I y talked to
- 57:03Speaker 1: a lady. We think she had a name. Did she
- 57:05Speaker 1: say something? Oh? I guess. Priates of the Caribbean is
- 57:08Speaker 1: a bad movie, this one. There's not even the potential,
- 57:13Speaker 1: there's no discussion to be had. It doesn't pass. But
- 57:17Speaker 1: let's rate the movie on our nipples scale. We rate
- 57:24Speaker 1: every movie on our nipple scale five nipples total. You
- 57:28Speaker 1: can attribute the nipples to whoever you want, but the
- 57:31Speaker 1: nipples are on the merit of how well the movie
- 57:34Speaker 1: treats women, on how much you like the movie. Right,
- 57:36Speaker 1: So I'm gonna give the movie like a half nipple
- 57:42Speaker 1: because the portrayal of women is laughable. They get almost
- 57:46Speaker 1: no screen time. There's two female characters as opposed to
- 57:49Speaker 1: dozens of men speaking roles in the movie, and they're
- 57:53Speaker 1: so human alien all different types of men. Yeah, and
- 57:58Speaker 1: the spectrum of men is represented the very few women,
- 58:02Speaker 1: and the ones that we do see are so poorly
- 58:04Speaker 1: developed that it's frankly embarrassing. So it rates very poorly
- 58:09Speaker 1: on our nipple scale. And the half nipple that I'm
- 58:12Speaker 1: giving it does belong to Oriyan the cat. Don't forget
- 58:16Speaker 1: that cats do have eight nipples. This has been cat
- 58:20Speaker 1: facts with Caitlin. I have nipples, Greg, can you malke me? Parents? Yeah?
- 58:29Speaker 1: I know, speaking of amazing segment. I also give this
- 58:40Speaker 1: movie half a nipple just because I want to give
- 58:42Speaker 1: the nipple to something. It seems like a fun thing
- 58:44Speaker 1: to do in a web show. Otherwise I would give
- 58:46Speaker 1: it no nipples. It's stupid. They take the ore one
- 58:50Speaker 1: female character, then they have her say girl power, and
- 58:53Speaker 1: then they throw her in a tree. They just are
- 58:57Speaker 1: battering her around like a ping punk ball. They're like,
- 58:59Speaker 1: she has a job, but she has to look like
- 59:01Speaker 1: a like it just if it's stupid, bad, not for
- 59:05Speaker 1: for women, but a fun movie and worth your time.
- 59:11Speaker 1: I'll give half my half nipple to pregnant backsy Tentacles too,
- 59:19Speaker 1: but I don't have to Sam. I owe the movie
- 59:25Speaker 1: I half Noble despite it being a wonderful, league done
- 59:30Speaker 1: sci fi comedy action buddy movie, and it's an enjoyable
- 59:36Speaker 1: for kids and an old people alike. I would say
- 59:42Speaker 1: ultimately it's portrayal woman was a paper thin and that's
- 59:46Speaker 1: being generous. And I just expect more fun movies that
- 59:52Speaker 1: I think that should be acceptable to everybody, should also
- 59:55Speaker 1: represent the world that we live in. Sounds you're joking,
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: I genuinely, I genuinely mean that. So I give you
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: have a half apple, and I give it to Linda
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: Florentino for you know, just doing the best that she could,
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: you know, with with being given because I actual yeah,
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: because I have to actually had to do Dogma that's
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: seems like a long shoe directed by feminist icon Kevin's face.
- 1:00:32Speaker 1: Oh yeah you and then she turned forty and was,
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: you know, sent away. But I want to point out
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: that in Dogma, Alan Rickman doesn't have a dick, and
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: any time that you see a man with no dick,
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: it's a good day for me. Have you do you?
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: This is not gonna be a fun way for us
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: to in the podcast. We should send it there. Have
- 1:01:01Speaker 1: you seen the movie with Patrick Wilson and Ellen Page
- 1:01:04Speaker 1: where she says to stay oh yeah hard Candy and
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: Patrick Wilson shines. It's like she's really and she's like
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: Ellen Page is like four years old and she's just like,
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: that's not your dig. It's the greatest movie of all time.
- 1:01:21Speaker 1: Highly recommend watching Patrick Wilson get castrated over and over.
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: I watched it with my dad. Underrated performance by Sandra
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: Oh in that film as well, she's she's great sideways,
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: Yeah she's I realized said that same about her and
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: Hard Kid. I was like, oh, I don't have enough.
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: The statement conclusion Sam, thank you. Yeah it wasn't Lara
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: flym boyl I'm sorry that is quite already that though.
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here every where. Can
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- 1:02:43Speaker 1: I don't like man, come on. Yes. Oh, thank you
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: so much into improv Boston and Boston Post being on
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: UM and thanks for coming out and uh see you
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: some other time. Yeah, see you later