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Was It a Love Connection For Kelly and Pascal?? · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to I Do Part two. I am one
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  Speaker 1: of your celebrity mentors, Jennifer Fessler. You know me from
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  Speaker 1: the podcast I co host to Jersey Jays with Jackie
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  Speaker 1: Goldschneider and from the Real Housewives of New Jersey. I
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  Speaker 1: am so excited because tonight I am joined by fellow housewife,
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  Speaker 1: well by housewife, I'm not a house anyway, and celebrity
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  Speaker 1: mentor Kelly ben Simone, and we are coming to you
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  Speaker 1: from Live in the Vineyard in Napa Valley, California. Hi, Kel, Hi,
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  Speaker 1: I think my voice just cracked a little.
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  Speaker 2: I know, because we've had a long Weekay, it's been
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  Speaker 2: a day. Well, you and I both came from Newark.
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  Speaker 1: Right to I came from Kennedy. Oh you did, Oh
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  Speaker 1: beckew Delta.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: So we both came from New York today. Oh my god.
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  Speaker 3: So it's a long day.
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  Speaker 2: It's a but how unbelievably gorgeous is it here?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I've never been in weather. Just the weather.
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  Speaker 1: It is so beautiful. Napa is gorgeous.
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  Speaker 3: Just don't take a taxi.
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  Speaker 2: I got off, I get out of the airport and
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I'm just going to take a taxi.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, a taxi, you didn't take an uber?
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  Speaker 2: I was like, no, I'm I live in New York,
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  Speaker 2: Like we take taxis literally four hundred dollars later, so
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  Speaker 2: don't do that.
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  Speaker 1: Much or was not that much less, but also we
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  Speaker 1: just don't take the uber. Listen, thank you, iHeart.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Kelly, So I we are going to jump right
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  Speaker 1: in because I feel like the I Do listeners have
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  Speaker 1: been on this journey with you and having to do
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  Speaker 1: with your dating life. Yes, so let me just give you,
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  Speaker 1: guys first, a little bit of the backstory. So, Kelly,
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  Speaker 1: you when was it back a little ways? You played
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  Speaker 1: the dating game? Yes, our friend Kelly here is single
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  Speaker 1: and ready to mingle. And you played the dating game
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  Speaker 1: on I Do Part two with three different men. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: and you chose one from the Golden Bachelor. Correct, you chose.
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  Speaker 2: They already have Three of the guys on the dating
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  Speaker 2: game were from the Golden Bachelor.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, and I chose one of them. Okay, So
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  Speaker 1: you chose one of them.
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  Speaker 2: I chose him because he can make salmon at a
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  Speaker 2: certain temperature.
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  Speaker 1: All right, apparably really like salmon. Or so you gotta
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  Speaker 1: think for sam. I like, but I.
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  Speaker 2: Also like men that cook. Okay, Kelly, I can make food.
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  Speaker 2: I can make food, but I don't I don't like to.
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  Speaker 1: There was something about the I don't like to cue on.
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  Speaker 3: I love when a man makes me food.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, But it didn't work out. His his proficiency in
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  Speaker 1: salmon cooking was not enough because.
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  Speaker 2: Well it wasn't enough because then he started texting me
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  Speaker 2: these telendovellas about what he's doing, how kind of pocket
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  Speaker 2: square he's wearing. I'm like, have you met me before
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  Speaker 2: you read?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 3: My name is Kelly, how are you nice to see you?
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  Speaker 1: Where are you from? Right?
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  Speaker 2: And he jumped he jumped in and was just like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to be a superstar.
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  Speaker 3: And this was happening, and then.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to be a superstar like he was.
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  Speaker 2: He was going to be a he was going to
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  Speaker 2: be on some television show. I was like, that's great.
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  Speaker 2: I thought you were a doctor. That kind of turned
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  Speaker 2: me off. And so then it was so wild because
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, all of a sudden, like he's texting me
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  Speaker 2: and he's like, I have I can't go to I
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  Speaker 2: can't come meet you at iHeart because I'm meeting this
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  Speaker 2: girl and this is her name, and I'm like okay,
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  Speaker 2: and I said, did I miss something? That was my Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't say I literally just read it and I said,
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  Speaker 2: did I miss something? And then he went into a
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  Speaker 2: whole other thing about why he couldn't go on the
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  Speaker 2: date with me or whatever, why we couldn't walk the carpet.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: And I got to walk the carpet with Gary, and
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  Speaker 2: that's where you and I became yes.
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  Speaker 1: But hold on a second, hold on. So Gary was
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor number whatever two three. I was gonna pick Gary,
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  Speaker 1: but you didn't Gary. I wanted to pick Gary. I
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  Speaker 1: really really want Gary's also from the Golden Bachelor.
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  Speaker 3: He is also from the Golden Battery. Also can cook
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  Speaker 3: very well.
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  Speaker 2: But the salmon really got me.
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  Speaker 1: That was something about this, I have to be honest
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  Speaker 1: with you. I listened to that episode, as I do
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  Speaker 1: listen to all of I DO Part two episodes, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like listening to it and it was so I'm sorry, Kelly,
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  Speaker 1: but like I was like, this is no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: no no. It was so awkward. My kids get so
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  Speaker 1: pissed when.
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  Speaker 3: I do that.
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  Speaker 1: It was so kind of cringe no, I mean you
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  Speaker 1: didn't feel like that.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I was having so much fun.
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  Speaker 2: And I think one thing that's been really great about
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  Speaker 2: being on I Do Part two is that I started
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  Speaker 2: with therapy, and then every single time that we would film.
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  Speaker 3: And be on the podcast and in the pod, I
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  Speaker 3: was applying what I was learning.
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  Speaker 1: I love that.
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  Speaker 2: And so not only was I learning new you know,
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  Speaker 2: a new not not a narrative people like it's not
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  Speaker 2: a narrative, I was learning how to apply my new
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  Speaker 2: tools with my in my tool belt for times when
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  Speaker 2: I needed it. I was also learning when things were
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  Speaker 2: triggering me from my past, like you know, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you and I have talked about this before about you know,
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  Speaker 2: being wildly insecure and you know, having you know, men
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  Speaker 2: not be exactly like not choosing good men, like you know,
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  Speaker 2: being around men that were not not really good for me.
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  Speaker 2: And so I've made this concerted effort to really open,
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  Speaker 2: be more open, be more vulnerable, and be more respectful
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  Speaker 2: of myself.
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  Speaker 3: So I was like salmon for the wind right.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm saying, even with all of that, when I
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  Speaker 1: thought of these because what you're saying is you are
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  Speaker 1: more open, and you were more open because when I
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  Speaker 1: listened to it, what I thought was none of these
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  Speaker 1: three guys are for Kelly, absolutely not. And hel you're
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  Speaker 1: a cool cat, and not that these I'm not trying
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  Speaker 1: to say that these guys are not cool, but different
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  Speaker 1: there they felt if.
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  Speaker 3: You're making.
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  Speaker 1: They are such nice guys. Listen, I'm not married to
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  Speaker 1: a cool cat. Let's get real. My husband, Jeff Fesler
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  Speaker 1: is there's nothing cool about him. Amazing, I agree, but
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  Speaker 1: he's not cool. These guys, I don't know. I just
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  Speaker 1: didn't see.
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  Speaker 2: That's he is cool because you can take him anywhere
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  Speaker 2: and he is like very very easy.
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  Speaker 1: Again, these three guys anywhere too. But I'm saying, like
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  Speaker 1: even their responses they were just a little cringe. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like they were a little come on, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But you yes, I think that it's
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  Speaker 1: great that you were open and you were like, doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: He likes salmon. I like salmon. This could work.
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  Speaker 2: But you know what that I think Jen two, is
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  Speaker 2: that that was That's one of the things that I
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  Speaker 2: think is really important when you are dating, is that
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  Speaker 2: not to date the person that you want, but to
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  Speaker 2: start dating and be in the pool because you never
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  Speaker 2: know who you're gonna meet.
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  Speaker 1: And also, Kelly, you don't know.
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  Speaker 3: That you know how that you know? It's like you
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  Speaker 3: did there.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, you could get a
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  Speaker 2: kiss a couple of maion frogs and you meet the prince.
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  Speaker 2: But some many times you don't know that the prince
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  Speaker 2: is the frog. You don't know that, Kelly, and all.
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  Speaker 1: You know by the way you're on nd but you're
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  Speaker 1: not in it.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna get I mean what I'm gonna sit in
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  Speaker 2: I sit at home my dating that being like this
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  Speaker 2: guy's hot, this guy's not.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, listen to it, like physically engage with the smart
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  Speaker 1: one because I was like, oh god, none of these
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  Speaker 1: three kids, there's something wrong with them. But I'm just saying,
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  Speaker 1: like none of these guys are for Kelly as I
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  Speaker 1: was listening to it. But the truth is you're right,
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  Speaker 1: and it's like great advice.
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  Speaker 3: It's that you have to be in it.
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  Speaker 1: You have to and write, you have to give it
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  Speaker 1: some you have to like I used to say this,
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  Speaker 1: you know how woman.
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  Speaker 3: To you know what?
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  Speaker 2: You know? It's like there's it's been interesting too because
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  Speaker 2: I that one one person said to me, dating is
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  Speaker 2: like a job.
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  Speaker 3: And you have to treat it like a job.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, you know how like you're like and you go
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  Speaker 2: to the gym and your hair is boned now and
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  Speaker 2: you're ready to go and you're on your phone, calls
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  Speaker 2: you your mo.
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  Speaker 3: You have to do the same thing the day. I
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  Speaker 3: want to be like dressed. You have to be ready
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  Speaker 3: to do. You have to be well rested, you have
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  Speaker 3: to have you have to like be so interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, going out to meet a guy if it were
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  Speaker 1: me right now and I was single, even when I
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  Speaker 1: was single in my twenties, I I, oh, I had
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  Speaker 1: dates all the time because I always said yes, didn't
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  Speaker 1: matter like if they were whatever it was because it
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  Speaker 1: was just a drink or it was just ID never
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  Speaker 1: made dinner dates and.
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  Speaker 2: More often than not very easy going.
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  Speaker 1: Right right, But I would be a very.
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  Speaker 2: Woman nally you can like you can talk to like
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  Speaker 2: wet paint. I mean, you are like very very I
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  Speaker 2: I am very I'm I'm a very outgoing person, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm also wildly insecure. So I present as outgoing, but
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  Speaker 2: I am super super very very reserved and like like
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  Speaker 2: literally like.
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  Speaker 1: You opened yourself up though to these three guys that
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  Speaker 1: I found completely cringe guys, I don't mean it like that.
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  Speaker 1: I just mean a little bit. Yeah I do. But
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  Speaker 1: but but if I if you're my best friend, I'm
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  Speaker 1: telling you it doesn't matter. Kelly, pick one and let's
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  Speaker 1: play it out. Let's see what happens. That's what they
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  Speaker 1: were just on. You know what they were. They were
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  Speaker 1: holding microphones in their hair. They were being recorded and
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  Speaker 1: maybe they were awkward, but you did and you right.
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  Speaker 3: So I did not see them.
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  Speaker 2: So it was like the dating game, so I had
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  Speaker 2: no idea, not so I couldn't make a judgment based
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  Speaker 2: on physical I love.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you're right, I'm wrong you. I'm glad of you.
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  Speaker 3: No, you're not wrong.
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  Speaker 1: They were, but like you did the right thing. I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad that you picked when you went out, or you
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  Speaker 1: didn't go out with him. He turns out that he
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  Speaker 1: was cringey. And then you moved on to Gary, who
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  Speaker 1: was very sweet, and you took two the iHeart Music Awards.
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  Speaker 1: And I know, but it didn't obviously I don't. There's
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  Speaker 1: there's no ring on your finger, or it's not going
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  Speaker 1: to be. It doesn't sound like it was. But it
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  Speaker 1: was so far I ever a date, but yes, and
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  Speaker 1: it made me feel really good. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And so after we left that night and I got
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  Speaker 2: to meet you, and I was in a really good
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  Speaker 2: mood and I had a lot of fun. And then
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  Speaker 2: when I left and went back to New York, I
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  Speaker 2: felt really good about myself. And that's the other thing
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  Speaker 2: that's good about going out a lot of going on
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  Speaker 2: a lot of different dates, is that because you you
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  Speaker 2: don't know, you don't even know who these people are.
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  Speaker 2: One guy said to me something that was really interesting.
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  Speaker 2: He said, let's just go on a date, because the
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  Speaker 2: worst thing that could happen is we could be really
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  Speaker 2: good friends.
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  Speaker 1: That's every that's I used to preach that. I'm just saying,
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  Speaker 1: like maybe if there's not a connection, like maybe you
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  Speaker 1: know someone, maybe I know someone, Right, that's how people
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  Speaker 1: should look at day, Like it's just Pete, we're just
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  Speaker 1: two people.
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  Speaker 2: And I have done that before. I have gone in
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  Speaker 2: to day and I'm thinking to myself, this guy's not
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  Speaker 2: good for me. I'm gonna introduce him to my friend.
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  Speaker 2: I've done that many times.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, so Gary, I don't I don't know why
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't for you, but let's just I'm gonna s
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  Speaker 1: so we love Gary we love Gary, but it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: a love connection. No, okay, but I love It's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: And then you got a d M from Let's take
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  Speaker 1: it from here, Yes, so tell us about that.
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  Speaker 2: So I had no idea who this was, and I
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  Speaker 2: get a lot of dms.
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  Speaker 1: I do.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to sit here and bullshit you guys.
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  Speaker 2: I get a lot of d ms of people. Sometimes
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  Speaker 2: they're for real, sometimes they're not. And so he was like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm from Chicago, and like, no one ever comes off
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  Speaker 2: and is like I'm from Chicago. I was like, wait,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, what.
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  Speaker 1: Do you lot Why that's so unusual because I'm from Rockford.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like, it's like that's close proximity.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: It's like if someone says.
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  Speaker 2: That I don't know, like Texas, yeah, Texas right there,
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  Speaker 2: they're from you near your hometown or like but they
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  Speaker 2: they went to college with you in Boston or something,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. They were like, it's just
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  Speaker 2: you know, just it just I never meet people that
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  Speaker 2: are in my circle, and so it's nice to know
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  Speaker 2: that there's someone there who kind of understands and that
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  Speaker 2: has a baseline understanding, so we don't have to be like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 3: What's you know?
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  Speaker 2: You know, what do you guys?
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  Speaker 3: What do you guys eat?
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  Speaker 2: In Illinois?
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  Speaker 3: People people always ask me. I'm like, what do you mean.
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  Speaker 2: When we eat like cheese? Obviously right joking, but people
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  Speaker 2: ask me that all the time. So what do they
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  Speaker 2: eat there? I'm like, food?
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  Speaker 1: Like I never thought it to ask anyone from Chicago that.
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  Speaker 2: Because you're a sophisticated woman, I'm talking about I'm talking
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  Speaker 2: about guys.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, we have to talk about Pascal, right, so we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna What was interesting is that when he was saying
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  Speaker 1: all those things is that he was talking about things
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  Speaker 1: that made me feel comfortable.
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  Speaker 3: He's talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Illinois and he was like, oh, I'm a hairdresser, you
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  Speaker 2: have beautiful hair.
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  Speaker 3: He was talking.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I know that sounds weird, but I mean
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  Speaker 2: it was also very nice.
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  Speaker 3: Too nice.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, he was on this show and he
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  Speaker 2: knew both Guy and Gary, who I I didn't. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know Guy, but I mean I did have some
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  Speaker 2: I did read some of his texts, and then you know,
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  Speaker 2: I obviously spent some time with Gary, who was so
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  Speaker 2: lovely and so did you and so yeah, so there
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  Speaker 2: were there was like a common denominated right.
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  Speaker 1: Right, So he slid in I really hate that expression.
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  Speaker 1: He slid in to your d MS and said, I'm
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  Speaker 1: from Chicago. Great, So now you guys made the connection.
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  Speaker 1: And so I didn't know who he was because you
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  Speaker 1: didn't watch the Golden Bachelor, right right with Bachelrette.
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  Speaker 2: Right, and I've watched The Bachelor for a thousand rights,
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  Speaker 2: but that I hadn't watched the Golden Bachelor, okay, And
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  Speaker 2: so I didn't know who he was, and you were
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  Speaker 2: open as you were. He told me he was on
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  Speaker 2: it and he was mentioning these people. So again like
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  Speaker 2: there was like a was.
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  Speaker 1: Like, so he wanted so he said, let's meet. And
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  Speaker 1: then what you said, you called the producer said okay,
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  Speaker 1: so here's this guy. Let's let's set it up. And
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  Speaker 1: they said, why don't you guys meet?
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  Speaker 2: I just was like, what is going on here? Is
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  Speaker 2: this going to be like guy number two? Is he
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  Speaker 2: just you just want to meet me because he you know,
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  Speaker 2: like I'm on Housewives and he was on the Bachelor,
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  Speaker 2: and he wants to like you know, you never you
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  Speaker 2: don't know like I was talking about, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: was just saying that like when I would go on dates.
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  Speaker 2: I would think that people were like, oh, I want
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  Speaker 2: to I want to date her because she's wild and crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Because people would call me crazy. I'm from Scary Island.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not I'm the least crazy person. I'm like so grounded,
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  Speaker 2: it's ridiculous. But they thought and then they were bored.
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  Speaker 2: They're like, Oh, she's just really not crazy.
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  Speaker 3: She just eats cheese.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just joking. She wants to want to sammy each cheese.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, that was one of those those are
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  Speaker 2: the things that were happening. So to meet someone that
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  Speaker 2: was you know, common, you know, the common denominator sounded
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  Speaker 2: like really interesting and and I was.
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  Speaker 3: Like, oh, maybe he's great. Right, So then.
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  Speaker 1: Now here we are, now here we are now about
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  Speaker 1: the producer said, let's do it in Napa, right.
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  Speaker 2: So we had we talked over we were on a
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  Speaker 2: podcast together, okay, and we spoke.
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  Speaker 1: I actually know that I listened to and he was
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: very charming. He is very charming, very very charming.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: I mean I was not answering the questions correctly. He
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: was like they were like if you could go, and
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: and if you could go. Bob was like, if you
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: could go, you know, on date with Kelly, where would
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: you take her? And he said this very very nice,
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: this really nice date. And I was like, oh, I
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: would take you to Gibson's and show you my Playboy cover.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: I mean I was making total jerk.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Well obviously not too much of a jerk because he
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: showed up NAPA, right.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, I was just like, you know what, like
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: if it's hard.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: That's a hard scenario when you're being asked these questions.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: I mean you asked those guys like if you were
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: a rooster and I was a chicken, what would be
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: your cockadile? I would have died? Like like I was like.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, but I was infusing the tools on my toolbout
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: because I'm spposed to be opening vulnerable and here I
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: was talking about my Playboy colver and like how you
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: should like look at it.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm a Kelly fan, so I'm going to say
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: that that's there's nothing wrong with that. Sorry. So now
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: you guys get to NAPA. You meet for the first time, Yes,
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: right off the bat, what was your first impression?
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: Very attractive, very attractive, very fit.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Yes. By the way, guys, if you don't know Pascal
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: is French.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: He is from Paris.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Yes, he's from Paris.
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: He owns multiple salons in Chicago. Correct, and yes he's
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: a big businessman. Your husband ex husmand is French. Excuse me,
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: you were raising Illinois. Clue, there's a common thread common threads,
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: I should say. So you meet him, first impression, good
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: looking fit.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: Right, okay, good looking infit?
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: And I met him and I was, I mean, I
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: met him this morning and I was in a bikini.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Literally, so that is the way to go.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: I saw you and then I saw him. I was like,
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, seeing today in a bikini, it's been great.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: If I were Kelly Bensman, I would definitely meet a
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: first date in a bikini. That'd be a smart move.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: So just so you guys did, whether or not it
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: was the intention, it worked. So now we go.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: We go all swad weird. She was on too and
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: a big robe.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: I don't think you saw that for it.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: So we all so you saw him in your bikini
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: and then what then we all got into the sprinter van. Yes, okay,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: So now you guys are chit chatting in the sprinter van. Yes,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: we're all kind of chit chatting. Yes, we get to
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: the concert. You guys, we were not all sitting together,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: So just tell me a little bit about what your
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: thoughts are. How'd you see?
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: So Deanna and I we know each other from another podcast,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: and we we we hit.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: It off really really well.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: She was on She's a Beautiful, Beautiful Girl from Bachelor Nation.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: She was on The Bachelor and the Bachelorette, And so
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: we were the three of us were sitting together. You
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: were off getting photos with like this rock star that
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: rock star, country music stars, and I was sitting with
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: him and he was very, very very nice. But then
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: he would get up and disappear and then come back.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: And you know, when you're on a date, like I'm
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: not expecting you to like kiss my feet, but when
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: you're on a date with me, or I suppose date,
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: or you know, even if you're just meeting me, I
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: expect to see some kind of genuine interests.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: And it wasn't like he was joined the French thing,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: which is like disinterested. He was just like kind of distant.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: And he was also like asking me questions instead of
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: being like, hey, you know, listen, you don't you know
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: who you're gonna meet? Do you know what I mean, like,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: and who knows, Maybe I would, maybe I was open
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: to it, but because he was kind of weird with me,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: it made me uncomfortable and just like I hung out
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: with the end of the whole time.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: So this is the beautiful thing. Guys. If you're listening
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: and you're single, about dating is like you're here to
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: tell the story.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: You're either in it or or not.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: And you know, who knows. Again, we talked about about
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: kissing frogs. You don't know who the prince is or
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: the princess is if you don't try. And you know,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: how do you know that I'm interested or not interested?
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: You think that he was intimidated, and then I don't know.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: I don't think he was intimidated.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: I think that he was trying to figure out what's
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: going on and what's happening. And you know, I think
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: that you have to take every we talked about this before.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: You have to take every opportunity, Like if you see
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: a hot girl on the subway, Hello, here's my here's
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: my number. I want to talk to you. Whatever you
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: have to take, you have to take the initiative because
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: it's the time that moment's going to go. So if
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: you don't like say like, hey, I would love to
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: do X, Y or Z or whatever.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: You know, how am I sp to know?
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Wow, I'm very interested to hear his take.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Yes, because me too.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: It's hard for me to picture a scenario where he
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: was not very interested in you, But I guess we'll
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: find out. But yeah, listen, So okay, so right now
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: before we bring I'm gonna talk to Pascal and then
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: talk to both of you. But you feel like he
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: just wasn't present present and okay that's a perfect word.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Not present. So that was a turnoff, wildly turned off.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Whereas like Gary was like we were walking down the
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: red carpet at i Hurt Radio with every famous musician
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: and you getting photos with all those famous musicians.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah I know, I know.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: And he was the most charming, lovely human.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: He was like, are you okay? Is everything all right?
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Well, Pascal did mention to me that he does think
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: that Gary has a very big thing for you, So
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that has anything to do with this.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I will ask him. Nobody did say that, but you
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Yes, say what you're saying.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: I think that a man, you know what a man
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: likes you.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, well, I'm going to know because sometimes.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: And sometimes sometimes you know, because they do the opposite,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Like they'll be mean to you, or they'll say you
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, you know, they'll like poke you,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: or you think you.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Could have liked him though there was potential for it.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I was on the podcast with him and then I
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: met him today, and I think he's a really, really,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: really incredible person. Do I think he's the right person
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: for me. I don't think so. And you know, one
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: of the reasons that he's not is because, to be
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: honest with you, is because he's French. Like I already,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: you're married a Frenchman. I already know what that's about.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: And by the way, and I love French culture and
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: I love frenchmen, but I don't want to be married
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: to another Frenchman.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: Fair enough, I just don't.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I'll speak French all day long with you, we can
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: be pen pals, we can talk on the phone. I
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: just do not want to be married to another french Man.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: I want a family for my family. I want a
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: real man who loves my kids. Because they didn't have
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: that family's environment. They only had me as their parent.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: And I want a man who's nurturing and loving not
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: only to me but also to our.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: If you were at Pascal say in the episode you
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Guys did together that he really doesn't not interested in
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: any small kids, which is okay. He has been a father,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: he does not want to be a father again. And
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: so I don't know if that struck you at all.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: It did, But when I was listening, I was like, well,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: even if your kids are of a certain age, there're
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: still you know, you want somebody that wants they.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Still needs to be They're still in that process.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're still going, there's still meeting men, there's
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: still you know, navigating their their work, their work life.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: They're navigating you know, their new future.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: And they're going to have be having children. And I
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: definitely want to be one thousand percent a part of
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: every part of it.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Yes, So that's just super important to me.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is really.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Family is paramount to my happiness.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I think it is to his too. But but whatever,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: there's a disconnect here, all right.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: But like I mean, like family together all the time,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: but I stand together all the time. Yes, And I
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: don't care how all the old the kids are. My
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: ex had younger children like I don't. I'm not worried
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: about having about being around younger children.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: I just want a family for my family.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: I love that. It's the greatest expression. Do you make
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: that up?
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: I love it. All right, we're gonna bring pastcalon and
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: then we're gonna bring it together.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Worsmith, You didn't know you are.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: A wordsmith amongst other things, amongst many, many, many other talents.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: No, but it's important, you know, you have to.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: I think that's the other thing that I learned from
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: this whole entire process. There's two things that I've learned.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: One is to be vulnerable but also protective. There's a
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: there's a there's a very very very fine line of
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: being vulnerable where you're not protecting yourself. That is not
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: what I want. So I want to I want to
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: be open and available to this new life that I
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: have in this new life partner. But I also want
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: to make sure that I'm protecting myself because I never
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: did that before. So that's really important. And then having
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: a family for my family has been always what I've
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: wanted for my entire life.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Well, it's coming to enjoy the time there, enjoy the
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: time that you're having right now being single. It's not
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: going to last forever. I can promise you that. And
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: now you're out of here because I want to to Pascal.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: All right you guys wasn't present?
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Why were you not?
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Were you not present?
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: All right, girl?
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Thank you, I love you.