Latest / The Epstein Chronicles / Mega Edition: Jeffrey Epstein, Stolen Software And The Mossad (6/8/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
- 0:04It seems like every time we turn around, even after
- 0:07all these years, there is another accuser coming forward and
- 0:11claiming that they were abused by Jeffrey Epstein. And in
- 0:15today's article from the Daily Beast, that's exactly what we
- 0:18have here again. Now this person is saying that she
- 0:22used to be one of Jeffrey Epstein's girlfriends. And I
- 0:25always have questions about people who were allegedly his girlfriend.
- 0:30Now all of a sudden, they want to set themselves
- 0:32up as if they're victims as well. I don't know
- 0:36if I buy it. And remember, not every single allegation
- 0:39is true. So for me, it's not believe all women.
- 0:43It never has been. It's always believed the evidence. And
- 0:46if the evidence is present, then of course you believe
- 0:49those allegations. But I don't just believe every single allegation
- 0:53that's put forward. And this is one of those allegations
- 0:56where it's his ex What about the women who were
- 0:59actually you know, traffic from Eastern Europe and other places
- 1:03around the world, All of a sudden his ex girlfriends
- 1:06are getting money too. Seems a little bit weird to me. No,
- 1:10I would think that you'd want to make sure that
- 1:11the money went to the people who actually, you know,
- 1:14deserve the money. Probably a good idea. Today's article is
- 1:17from the Daily Beast, and the headline Jeffrey Epstein's ex
- 1:21says he boasted about being a Massad agent. Well, isn't
- 1:25that convenient considering how much the Masad, Israel and Gaza
- 1:29is in the news. I'm not shocked to hear that.
- 1:32But when you really start breaking it all down and
- 1:35you start looking at the actual evidence that's been provided,
- 1:38there's no doubt that if Epstein was working for anyone,
- 1:42he was working for the CIA. Now, sure, he might
- 1:46have been doing some gigs for the Masad because he
- 1:48was a free agent. He wasn't a CIA agent. He
- 1:52was an asset. So that means that he had the
- 1:55ability to bounce around and make dough however he could.
- 1:58But at the end of the day, like a homing pigeon,
- 2:01Epstein always came home to his handlers in the CIA.
- 2:04Who those handlers might be. I have no idea, and
- 2:07anybody out here telling you any different is bullshitting you.
- 2:10They don't know. And furthermore, for as much as people
- 2:14want to talk about Epstein's connections to Israel and the Masad.
- 2:18Seems like those very same people want to leave out
- 2:20his connections to Saudi Arabia and NBS and people who
- 2:24are omitting things when they're talking about this situation. They're
- 2:27doing it for a reason. They're doing it because they're
- 2:30trying to craft a narrative as opposed to just looking
- 2:33for justice and going scorched earth. They're looking to craft
- 2:36narratives here. Fuck that, we're looking to go Hiroshima, folks,
- 2:41Okay Nagasaki, absolute scorched earth. Nobody who was involved left standing.
- 2:46You can't pick and choose who you're going to eviscerate
- 2:48in this story. It's either everyone or no one. This
- 2:52article was authored by Kate Bricklett. A former girlfriend and
- 2:56victim of Jeffrey Epstein, is suing the late sex traffickers estate,
- 3:00claiming he boasted of being a massad agent before a
- 3:02raping her at his New York mansion. The California woman,
- 3:06referred to as Jane Doe two hundred in a new lawsuit,
- 3:09says she met Epstein through a friend in Los Angeles
- 3:11in two thousand. What began as a platonic relationship turned
- 3:16romantic before Epstein sexually assaulted her a year later. During
- 3:20their time together, Doe says Epstein and his accomplice Gallaine
- 3:23Maxwell hinted he was an agent for MASAD, the Israeli
- 3:26intelligence agency, just like Maxwell's father Robert. For her part,
- 3:30Glayn allegedly worn Doe that it was not good to
- 3:33be Epstein's enemy. Look, Epstein's had a lot of stuff.
- 3:36Epstein talked a whole bunch of garbage. Did he work
- 3:40for the Masad in some capacity, I'm guessing he did,
- 3:44just like he worked for the CIA and anyone else
- 3:46who was willing to pony up some doe. But none
- 3:49of those organizations are going to be able to get
- 3:51him off when it comes to criminal charges. Here in
- 3:53the United States, every single time Epstein was around, anyone
- 3:57who went to prison. Everybody else went to prison, and
- 4:00on how he skated. Now, for those of you who
- 4:02might not be initiated in the world of organized crime,
- 4:06that usually means you're a rat. You don't get nailed
- 4:09on huge charges and then you're out the next day.
- 4:12That's not how this works, unless, of course, you give
- 4:16them that three to zero two and proffer up a statement,
- 4:19and Epstein certainly was that. This dude has been working
- 4:22with the FED since at least the Baron Stearns days.
- 4:25I don't care what the OIG report says. Unlike most people,
- 4:28I've actually read the OIG reports, both of them, and
- 4:32actually shared them here on the podcast with all of you,
- 4:35so we all know the deal and we all know
- 4:37that the whole narratives just complete bs. It became obvious
- 4:41that Epstein was not only extremely wealthy, but also suspiciously
- 4:45well connected, more so than all the other powerful men
- 4:48whom he associated, adds the suit filed in Manhattan Federal
- 4:52Court on Monday. Despite being in a committed relationship, often
- 4:56spending nearly around the clock time together, what Epstein did
- 4:59for work was not clear. Okay, what does that even mean.
- 5:03There's a lot of people out there that are secretive
- 5:05about their job, a lot of people out there that
- 5:07aren't going to let somebody that they're dating or just
- 5:10having relations with know what they're doing. People are private,
- 5:14So I don't take too much out of that. And
- 5:16does that make him a massad agent? Come on? Epstein,
- 5:19who bragged of being on the Trilateral Commission and Council
- 5:23on Foreign Relations would later invite Doe to a networking
- 5:26event attended by Google founders Larry Page and Sergey Brynn.
- 5:30The suit says, you know, the people that say that
- 5:32don't know who Epstein was, all of these rich scumbags
- 5:35that were at his house, going to these events, hanging
- 5:38out with them, but they have no idea who Jeffrey
- 5:40Epstein was. That's what they'll tell you. Question is do
- 5:44you believe them? And as far as the Council on
- 5:46Foreign Relations goes, there's no doubt that Jeffrey Epstein was
- 5:49part of that, and there's no doubt that he gave
- 5:51them a great deal of money. We've already covered that
- 5:54time and time again. He also name dropped world political figures,
- 5:59billionaire business and notorious international criminals. The complaint states. While
- 6:04he was gentle and kind to Doe most of the time,
- 6:07Doe did observe Epstein's explosive, uncontrollable anger toward others. The
- 6:11lawsuit says. Doe's complaint provides another window into Epstein's world
- 6:16and is one of several pending lawsuits related to the
- 6:19trafficker's crimes after his twenty nineteen death. Earlier this month,
- 6:23one victim sued renowned psychiatrist Henry Jareki for allegedly exploiting
- 6:28her and other young women Epstein had also sexually abused.
- 6:32And what's funny about that, Henry Jereki cat his son
- 6:36is actually the director of that Robert Durst documentary called
- 6:40The Jinx. Well, it's mister Jereki's son who is the
- 6:44director of that. Maybe he could do a documentary on
- 6:47his sick ass dad. Maybe he could do a documentary
- 6:50on the fact that his pops was allegedly diddling girls
- 6:52that he should have been helping. Brad Edwards, an attorney
- 6:56for Doe, told The Dealy Beast, in addition to Epstein's
- 6:59rotation of its victims, there was typically one person who
- 7:02we may believe was his girlfriend, usually completely in the
- 7:05dark about his criminal abuse. And look, there's a lot
- 7:08to be said of that. There have been a lot
- 7:09of women that have been in Epstein's orbit that thought
- 7:12they were his girlfriend. And I've told you time and
- 7:15time again that that wasn't the case. This man didn't
- 7:18have girlfriends. Jane do two hundred was that girlfriend during
- 7:22this period of time, which means she learned more information
- 7:25than most other victims, Edwards added in the end, Epstein
- 7:29violently raped her in a manner far worse than his
- 7:31usual modus operendi. This victim has lived in a particular
- 7:36fear for a long time, and she deserves justice. Look,
- 7:39if her allegations are true, there's no doubt she deserves justice. Unfortunately,
- 7:44we all know justice is in short supply. Those lawsuit
- 7:48names Darren Endyke and Richard Kahan, the co executors of
- 7:51Epstein's estate, as defendants and alleges battery and intentional infliction
- 7:56of emotional distress. The Daily Beast has contacted a lawyer
- 8:00for Epstein's estate for a comment. Yeah, good luck with that.
- 8:03While the accuser believed she was in a committed, monogamous
- 8:06relationship with Epstein until he forcibly raped her at his
- 8:10Manhattan mansion, he was also abusing underage girls in Florida
- 8:13and elsewhere. Okay, look, I don't really know about this one, folks. Honestly,
- 8:19I'm not too sure. I mean, they're in a committed relationship,
- 8:22then all of a sudden, now she's talking about how
- 8:24she was abused. My question is, is this person facing
- 8:28some sort of allegation of her own and she's trying
- 8:30to use this as a cover story. Now that's just speculation.
- 8:33I don't know this is a Jane Doe. I'm not
- 8:36even sure who this person is at this point. But
- 8:38this certainly isn't the case of some little girl being groomed,
- 8:41that's for damn sure. As part of his long running
- 8:44trafficking scheme, Epstein and his associates lured girls and young
- 8:48women to his luxurious homes with promises of career or
- 8:51financial help, then forced them into sexualized massages. When Dough
- 8:56met Epstein, he inquired about her passions and made it
- 8:59clear that he was a well connected person and offered
- 9:01to introducer to world renowned scientists and other professionals in
- 9:05the fields in which he was interested. Epstein even introduced
- 9:09though to his brother, mother and friends. There are dates included,
- 9:13visits to auction houses and antique shops, and one helicopter
- 9:16trip to Princeton University to attend a lecture by Epstein's friend,
- 9:20Professor Martin nowak Oh, isn't that nice little trip to Princeton? Huh?
- 9:25And honestly, does this sound like somebody who is being abused?
- 9:28Sounds like somebody who was in an actual relationship. Doesn't
- 9:31sound mysterious to me. Met his mom, met his brother,
- 9:35go into this Princeton thing. So I won't say that
- 9:39Epstein didn't abuse this woman. I don't know, but this
- 9:42isn't the usual type of situation that we're discussing, and
- 9:45this isn't the usual scenario of a young girl being groomed.
- 9:49We're talking about somebody who is in a consensual relationship
- 9:53with Jeffrey Epstein, who was an absolute monster. So my
- 9:56question again is is this person here facing some sort
- 10:00of allegation against them and they're trying to use this
- 10:02as cover Back then, Epstein claimed he had only had
- 10:06sex with five women in his entire life, including British
- 10:09socialite Maxwell, his former girlfriend and now convicted accomplice, who
- 10:14was around frequently as Epstein's friend. While Epstein's strategy with
- 10:18Doe was different, the complaint says he infiltrated her life
- 10:21in a unique and arguably more disturbing way. Epstein, over
- 10:25the course of months, caused Dodo believe they were in
- 10:27a committed relationship, that she was the one and only
- 10:30real girlfriend he had ever had, and that he had
- 10:33cared for. The legal filing states, once he knew Doe
- 10:36felt the same way, he forcibly raped her. So I
- 10:39don't understand if they were in this relationship, and they
- 10:42were already having relations why would you just up and
- 10:45rape her after they state their feelings for each other. Again,
- 10:49I'm not saying this is wrong or that she's making
- 10:51this up, because Jeffrey Epstein was a fucking animal, and
- 10:54it's very possible, but it just doesn't smell if you
- 10:58will the same way the other recipe smells, And that
- 11:01could be because there's some different ingredients here, or on
- 11:04the flip side, it could be a completely different dish.
- 11:08The incident occurred in the fall of two thousand and one,
- 11:10when Epstein was getting a traditional massage at his Upper
- 11:14east Side mansion. The messuse began kissing Epstein and Doe
- 11:17became upset. Before Doe could leave, the complaint says he
- 11:21physically forced her face down on the massage table and
- 11:24violently vaginally penetrated her. Given the violence behind the rape,
- 11:28the lawsuit says Doe knew in that moment that she
- 11:31had to escape. She feared Epstein would retaliate if she
- 11:35reported him to police, so she fled to California and
- 11:37broke up with him. Doe genuinely believed that any reporting
- 11:41of the rape by what she believed to be a
- 11:43massad agent with some of the most unique connections in
- 11:46the world would result in significant bodily harm or death
- 11:49to her. The filing says, still, Epstein tried to contact
- 11:52Doe frequently. In two thousand and three, Epstein offered her
- 11:55a once in a lifetime opportunity to network with influential people,
- 12:00and she accepted the invitation because she was facing immigration issues. Dough,
- 12:05while hesitant to be in Epstein's orbit, again, attended the
- 12:08networking event purely for work purposes. The complaint says she
- 12:12met Google's page and Brynn and Epstein told her several
- 12:15of the people at the event, which spend time at
- 12:17his new Mexico ranch. Afterwards. She joined them there, but
- 12:20avoided Epstein so that he couldn't assault her again. Wait
- 12:23a minute, I thought nobody went to this ranch. Nobody's
- 12:26ever been there, certainly not Bill Clinton and Sergey Brynn
- 12:29and Larry Paigeaw, they don't even know who Jeffrey Epstein is,
- 12:32right right. Dough frequently continued to be contacted by Epstein,
- 12:37the suit says, and despite her belief that Epstein could
- 12:40harmor kill herself if he did not get his way,
- 12:43given the immense harmony inflicted on her, she refused to
- 12:46ever see him again. All right, folks, Well another allegation,
- 12:50and I'll tell you it doesn't smell like the other ones,
- 12:52but that doesn't mean it's not true. But this certainly
- 12:55isn't the schoolgirl kind of story that we've been talking about.
- 12:58You know, a little girl from Palm Beach High School
- 13:01getting groomed and enticed over to Epstein's house. This isn't that.
- 13:05This is somebody who entered into a consensual relationship with
- 13:08Epstein at some point and then from there, she says,
- 13:11it turned violent in south and now because of that
- 13:14alleged abuse, she's looking to sue the estate and she's
- 13:18looking to get that bag. So, like usual, we'll keep
- 13:20an eye on this one and we'll see where it
- 13:22all goes, and we'll see what kind of information pops up.
- 13:25And when I can get my hands on the core documents,
- 13:27we'll definitely get those added to the catalog as well.
- 13:30But until then, that's gonna do it for this one.
- 13:32All of the information that goes with this episode can
- 13:35be found in the description box. What's up everyone, and
- 13:39Welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. Virginia Roberts had a
- 13:44post on Twitter where she was asking if anyone else
- 13:47believed that Jeffrey Epstein was a spy and he was
- 13:51working for the MACADE or the CIA, And I think
- 13:55this is probably the question I get the most when
- 13:58it comes to Jeffrey Epstein and how he was able
- 14:01to do what he was able to do, And I
- 14:03think the answer is somewhere in the middle. I don't
- 14:07think that Jeffrey Epstein was your traditional spy, if you will,
- 14:11but I think he was an asset that was being
- 14:13run by multiple agencies and was there some overlap with
- 14:17the CIA and the Masad, Oh, I'm sure there was.
- 14:21But there's a lot of people out there that act
- 14:23like Jeffrey Epstein was a legit Masad spy, like he
- 14:27went to spy school in Israel and the rest of it,
- 14:31and that's just not the case. So for me, there's
- 14:35zero doubt that this guy was an asset, but a
- 14:38full blown spy in the traditional sense of the word,
- 14:41I don't think so. Look, these intelligence agencies, they recognize
- 14:46tools that they can use to perpetrate whatever sort of
- 14:50scheme or plot that they have. But the second that
- 14:52the asset's usefulness has worn out, or if the asset
- 14:57is deemed to be somebody that might expose the the
- 15:00rest of the operation, that asset will get burned. And
- 15:03considering Jeffrey Epstein's fate, I don't think it's that big
- 15:06of a leap to say that that's what happened here. Now.
- 15:09I'm not saying that they killed him, per se, But
- 15:12what message did Tartaglioni give Jeffrey Epstein in that cell
- 15:17when they were in that cell together and Tartaglioni allegedly
- 15:21assaulted him. I have always believed that that assault was
- 15:24a message being passed to Epstein by somebody who that
- 15:28somebody is. I won't sit here and make pretend I know.
- 15:31But considering all of the coincidences surrounding Jeffrey Epstein's death,
- 15:36considering the fact that all this information was about to
- 15:40come spilling out, you would have to think that there's
- 15:42a lot of powerful people out there that aren't too
- 15:45comfortable or weren't too comfortable with that information about to
- 15:49make its way into the public. So I've always believed
- 15:53that there's way more to the story with Nicholas Tartaglioni
- 15:57than they've ever let on, and we only got a
- 16:00little portion of that story. And even in the OIG
- 16:03report that some people point to as if it's some
- 16:06kind of bible or something, we got barely a mention
- 16:09of what happened with Tartaglioni. And then we hear about
- 16:12the lame ass investigation that they kicked off in the
- 16:16aftermath of it, basically just asking him, did you do this?
- 16:20He says no, and then they move on. Then you
- 16:22move into the area where the tape has been destroyed
- 16:25or it's been lost, you know, all of it. And
- 16:28for me, none of the explanations that I've been given
- 16:31by the powers that be have been good enough explanations,
- 16:35and in fact, they only open up more questions. So
- 16:39moving on to the article from Newsweek and the headline
- 16:43Prince Andrew's accuser shares Jeffrey Epstein's spy theory. This article
- 16:49was authored by Jack Royston. Prince Andrew's accuser posted a
- 16:53link to a Reddit post suggesting Jeffrey Epstein was a
- 16:57masad or Cia spy. Virginia, Roberts sued the Royal for
- 17:02sexual assault in London, New York and the US Virgin Islands.
- 17:07When they settled out of court in twenty twenty two
- 17:10for an undisclosed sum, Andrew acknowledged that she was an
- 17:13Epstein sex trafficking victim. The Prince denied the allegations against them.
- 17:19Imagine trying to get off with that nonsense. Yeah, I'm
- 17:22going to deny these allegations. But let me give you
- 17:24this bag real quick. Conspiracy theorists, boy, that's a whot,
- 17:28have long speculated about whether Epstein's wide ranging sexual abuse
- 17:33was part of an elaborate campaign to acquire compromising material
- 17:37about high profile figures and politicians on behalf of intelligence agencies.
- 17:43Newsweek has no definitive evidence to back up this account
- 17:46and no official confirmation, but it's not entirely without foundation. Look,
- 17:52I don't think there's any doubt that good old Jeffrey
- 17:54Epstein was being run as an asset. Now who is
- 17:58handler was, who was in charge of it all? I
- 18:01have no idea, And all the people out here that
- 18:03pump the bs like they know, well, I'd like to
- 18:06see the proof. Remember, big claims require big proof. And
- 18:11when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein and people who say
- 18:13that they have proof, who say that they have all
- 18:16this evidence, well, I'm a trust but verify kind of guy.
- 18:19At this point, if you get my drift, considering all
- 18:22the grifters and snake oil salesmen and bullshit artists that
- 18:26have made their way through this whole thing, I think
- 18:29that at this point it's either put up or shut
- 18:31up for me. But as far as the overall question,
- 18:34was he working for spy agencies? Was he an asset?
- 18:38I think the answer is definitively yes. The part that
- 18:41still murky is who he was working for in the
- 18:45first place, and I have my suspicions that it wasn't
- 18:48just one intelligence agency. Now, I think that Epstein was
- 18:53a tool of the United States government at least as
- 18:56far as being used as a snitch. And Folks, you
- 18:59don't avoid going to prison in all of the scandals
- 19:02that Jeffrey Epstein was involved in throughout all of these
- 19:05years if you're not working with the government, he was
- 19:09making the same moves like Whitey Bulger. The question is
- 19:13who was Jeffrey Epstein's handler, And I think it's a
- 19:16long shot of long shots that were ever gonna find
- 19:19out who that handler was. Roberts posted a link on
- 19:22Twitter to a Reddit post that asked, does anyone else
- 19:26here believe Epstein in all likelihood was a masad CIA
- 19:30linked intelligence agent that was responsible for helping run a
- 19:34blackmail honeypot ring to entrap elite oligarchs? And yeah, look,
- 19:38there's a lot to that. There's no doubt that Epstein
- 19:41dealt in information, and when you get to the level
- 19:44that these people are at, information is worth more than
- 19:47even money. But I think it even went deeper than that.
- 19:50Remember that Jeffrey Epstein was always hanging out with these
- 19:53scientists too. Ask yourself why what sort of projects were
- 19:57these scientists working on? And were any of those projects
- 20:01top secret? And if they were, what was Epstein doing
- 20:05with the information that he was getting from these scientists.
- 20:08That's a question that is very rarely asked. But for me,
- 20:12when I went to New Mexico and I went down
- 20:15to the Santa Fe Institute, there was way too many
- 20:18questions that needed to be answered, And still to this day,
- 20:22those questions remain unanswered, and a lot of it has
- 20:26to do with Epstein and his dalliances with the scientific community.
- 20:31Based off all of Epstein's known dubious activities, the post
- 20:34added across the vast wealth obvious connections to the Israeli Massad.
- 20:39Glenn Maxwell's dad was Robert Maxwell, a powerful British oligarch
- 20:44with Massad ties. And Epstein's suspicious murder that's been covered
- 20:48up as a suicide, I think a strong argument could
- 20:51be made Epstein was indeed an intelligence agent who helped
- 20:55run a black mail honeypot operation that most likely is
- 20:58still running to this day. Well in some form. Well
- 21:02you think they just gave up when their buddy Jeffrey
- 21:05Epstein ended up sleeping with the fishes. Zero chance. Look,
- 21:09when these guys latch onto a scheme that works, the
- 21:12scheme is going to keep going on. The players are
- 21:15going to change, But the scheme itself, well it was effective,
- 21:19then it'll be effective now. And please make no mistake,
- 21:22Jeffrey Epstein is just a tip of the iceberg. It's
- 21:26important to state that there is no on the record
- 21:29confirmation from the US or any other intelligence that Jeffrey
- 21:33Epstein was a spy. In addition, his cause of death
- 21:37in twenty nineteen was recorded by suicide by hanging by
- 21:41the New York City's Medical Examiner's Office. Well, that clears
- 21:44it up for me, because the New York Medical Examiner's
- 21:48Office says that it was a suicide. Time to pack
- 21:51it up, folks, Nothing left to see here. Let's just
- 21:53go ahead and move on with our lives and our business.
- 21:56Everything that happened in that jail cell on the up
- 21:58and up, everything that happened with Epstein from the time
- 22:01of his incarceration until the time of his death. If
- 22:04you think anything besides what was in that OIG report,
- 22:08you're a conspiracy theorist. That's basically what the legacy media
- 22:13would have people believe. But the reality is this, the
- 22:16legacy media, like usual, is late to the party, and
- 22:20like usual, they have no idea what they're talking about
- 22:24when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein. However, this is not
- 22:28the first time it has been suggested that the New
- 22:31York financier financier is it you mean, pedophile, right, mister
- 22:35Royston may have had links to the intelligence community. The
- 22:38twenty nineteen book Epstein Dead Men Tell No Tales by
- 22:43Dylan Howard, James Robertson and Melissa Cronnin quotes Aery Ben Minosh,
- 22:48said to be an Israeli intelligence agent and handler of
- 22:51Robert Maxwell. In the late nineteen eighties, Epstein dated British
- 22:56newspaper magnate Maxwell's daughter, Glen Maxwell, if you want to
- 23:00call it that, who is serving twenty years in jail,
- 23:03Still not long enough and for grooming girls for Epstein
- 23:07to abuse. Mister Royston also left out the little part
- 23:10here where Maxwell actually participated in the abuse herself. Kind
- 23:15of an important part, no, And as for dating Glenne Maxwell,
- 23:19it's a pretty damn good cover story, right, ben Manash said,
- 23:24Maxwell introduced him to us and he wanted us to
- 23:27accept them as part of our group. These guys were
- 23:30seen as agents, He added, they weren't really competent to
- 23:33do very much, and they found a niche for themselves
- 23:36blackmailing American and other political figures. In conclusion, Ben Manash
- 23:42said to the authors, mister Epstein was a simple idiot
- 23:45who was going around providing girls to all kinds of
- 23:48politicians in the United States. See, f them around is
- 23:52not a crime. It could be embarrassing, but it's not
- 23:55a crime. But f a fourteen year old girl, that's
- 23:59a crime. And he was taking photos of politicians doing
- 24:02that with fourteen year old girls. If you want to
- 24:04get it straight, ben Manash added, they Epstein and Maxwell
- 24:08would just blackmail people. They would just blackmail people like that.
- 24:12And look, there is a lot of truth in everything
- 24:15that was said by mister ben Manash, And as far
- 24:19as the authors of that book go, Melissa Cronnin certainly
- 24:22knows what she's talking about. But you hear from mister
- 24:25ben Manash here that Epstein was an idiot. He certainly
- 24:28wasn't a functioning MASSAD agent or a CIA agent, but
- 24:32an asset, a useful idiot, one hundred percent. Those are
- 24:36the favorite kind of tools of the CIA, of the Masad.
- 24:41Vicky Ward, who's reporting for Vanity Fair played a role
- 24:45in the Epstein scandal, wrote in a piece for Rolling
- 24:48Stone Magazine that the notorious financier pedophile told exaggerated stories
- 24:53of his time and intelligence circles, but some of those
- 24:56stories may have been at least partially true. Ward quoted
- 25:01a former business partner of Epstein, Stephen Hoffenberg, whom the
- 25:05disgraced financier testified against during a criminal prosecution. Hoffenberg said
- 25:10that Epstein had talked about links to the intelligence community.
- 25:14And when I said he was a snitch for the government,
- 25:16this is what I mean. He took the stand and
- 25:20signed a three zero two, signed a profer agreement with
- 25:22the government to put Steve Hoffenberg behind bars. Meanwhile, it
- 25:27was Epstein who was the mastermind of that whole last scheme.
- 25:31So what you think Once the government had Epstein on paper,
- 25:34that was the end of it. They were like, Ah,
- 25:36you know what, this guy isn't going to be useful anymore.
- 25:38Let's just forget about him. Zero chance. They're not going
- 25:41to waste an asset like that until it's time to
- 25:44waste an asset like that. These related to national security
- 25:48issues involving blackmail, influence, trading, trading information at a level
- 25:53that is very serious and dangerous. Ultimately, short of official confirmation,
- 25:58it is impossible to know with any certainty whether Epstein
- 26:02had links to intelligence agencies or not, and if so,
- 26:06how strong those links are. Either way, the idea is
- 26:09not concocted out of thin air, as many conspiracy theories are. Well,
- 26:14that's because this is not a conspiracy theory in my opinion,
- 26:18this is a fact. We just have to hammer out
- 26:21all the details, right I can't give you particulars because
- 26:24I don't know. But what I can tell you is
- 26:26the aberrant behavior that was shown by Epstein and the
- 26:30favorable punishment that was handed down to Epstein, and the
- 26:34ability of Epstein to continue to do what he did
- 26:37for all those years. That is not normal, and most
- 26:40people aren't afforded the space to operate like Jeffrey Epstein was.
- 26:45So do I think that Jeffrey Epstein was a Masad spy?
- 26:48Not in the traditional sense. I do think that him
- 26:51and Maxwell were both assets and they were being run
- 26:55by multiple agencies. But like most things, when it comes
- 26:58to Jeffrey Epstein, to wonder what's real and what's not,
- 27:03and in my opinion, that's always been by design. All Right, folks,
- 27:08that's gonna do it for this one. If you'd like
- 27:10to contact me, you can do that at Bobby Kopucci
- 27:13at Protonmeil dot com. That's bo b b Y c
- 27:16apu Cci at proton mail dot com. All of the
- 27:20information that goes with this episode can be found in
- 27:24the description box. What's up, everyone, and welcome to another
- 27:27episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this series, we're going
- 27:31to take a closer look at how the promised software
- 27:34scandal of the eighties inter sex and connects with what
- 27:38we're seeing today with Jeffrey Epstein. At first glance, these
- 27:42may seem like two very different stories, one about a
- 27:45stolen computer program used by prosecutors, the other about a
- 27:49convicted sex offender with ties to some of the most
- 27:52powerful people in the world. But when you examine the details,
- 27:56some of the same patterns begin to emerge. Was more
- 28:01than just a piece of software. It became the center
- 28:04of a major controversy involving Department of Justice allegations of
- 28:08fraud and eventually claims that it had been modified and
- 28:11repurposed by intelligence services to spy on governments and financial
- 28:16systems around the globe. And one of the central figures
- 28:19allegedly was none other than Robert Maxwell himself, the media
- 28:23tycoon and father of Glene Maxwell. His alleged role as
- 28:27distributor of the compromise software has raised questions that remain
- 28:31unresolved to this day. Fast forward to the Epstein scandal
- 28:35and we see a similar set of questions, powerful institutions
- 28:39looking the other way, intelligence ties being whispered about but
- 28:42never fully confirmed, and a cover up narrative that seems
- 28:46designed to protect the very people who benefited from the operation.
- 28:51In both cases, we find the same hallmarks of intelligence
- 28:54tradecraft fronts, leverage, secrecy, and the sudden silencing of individuals
- 28:59who might have revealed too much. So in this series
- 29:03we're going to explore those parallels. We'll look at how
- 29:05PROMISE and Epstein's share structural similarities in the way power
- 29:09is maintained and how accountability is avoided, and by the end,
- 29:14hopefully you may see that these aren't isolated scandals at all,
- 29:18but part of a recurring pattern and how intelligence networks
- 29:22operate across the decades. The story begins with PROMISE, short
- 29:27for Prosecutors Management Information System. Developed in the nineteen seventies
- 29:32by Washington, DC based company called Inslaw Incorporated. Promise was
- 29:37designed to help prosecutors track criminal cases across complex dockets.
- 29:42At its core, the program was a case management tool
- 29:45that could link seemingly unrelated cases and defendants of powerful
- 29:49innovation for the time. By the early eighties, the US
- 29:53Department of Justice expressed strong interest and PROMISE Inslaw, run
- 29:57by former prosecutor Bill Hamilton, signed a co contract to
- 30:00install the software in US attorney's offices nationwide. But almost
- 30:05from the start, tensions arose between ins Law and the
- 30:08DOJ over payments, modifications, and ownership rights. Hamilton insisted that
- 30:15his company had developed an enhanced version of Promise with
- 30:18private funds, which meant the government would need to license
- 30:22it properly. The Justice Department, however, argued that it had
- 30:26rights to the software under federal contracts. This dispute escalated
- 30:30into a bitter feud that would spill into the courts
- 30:33and into congressional investigations. By the mid nineteen eighties, ins
- 30:39Law accused the DOJ of effectively stealing its software. A
- 30:42bankruptcy court judge later found that officials had engaged in trickery, fraud,
- 30:47and deceit in dealing with ins Law. The court's language
- 30:52was unusually strong, painting a picture of a government agency
- 30:55in muscling a small contractor out of its intellectual property.
- 30:59But the Romis scandal didn't stop at contract law. Soon
- 31:03allegations emerged that the stolen software had been modified by
- 31:07US intelligence agencies to include secret backdoors. These alleged backdoors
- 31:12allowed American spy services to monitor foreign governments, banks, and
- 31:16corporations who thought that they were merely buying sophisticated case
- 31:21tracking tools. Stories spread that Promise had been sold or
- 31:25handed over to allies and adversaries alike, often without their
- 31:29knowledge of its hidden features. Israel was frequently mentioned in
- 31:33this context, some alleging that Israeli intelligence had distributed alter
- 31:38versions of Promise worldwide. The software, according to these accounts,
- 31:42became a trojan horse and global espionage. Adding to the
- 31:46intrigue were reports that versions of Promise had been installed
- 31:50in financial institutions. If true, this would have allowed intelligence
- 31:54services to track money flows across borders, offering insights into
- 31:58everything from arms dealers the covert funding networks. For critics,
- 32:03this was less a business dispute than a global surveillance conspiracy.
- 32:07Throughout the late nineteen eighties and nineteen nineties, investigative journalists
- 32:11dug into the story. Danny Cassilero, a freelance journalist, became
- 32:15the most infamous. He linked Promise to what he called
- 32:19the Octopus, a shadowy network of intelligence agencies, organized crime figures,
- 32:24and corrupt officials. Casilero died in nineteen ninety one in
- 32:28a hotel bathtub under suspicious circumstances. His death officially ruled
- 32:33the suicide. Many, however, believed he had been silenced. Cassilero's
- 32:38death supercharged the promised narrative for conspiracy researchers. It was
- 32:43proof that the scandal wasn't just about software licensing. It
- 32:47was about control, surveillance and the silencing of inconvenient truths.
- 32:52His note suggests that he believed Promise tied in to
- 32:56Iran contra, banking scandals, and even covert assassination programs. Meanwhile,
- 33:02Congress began to take notice. Hearings were held, reports were written,
- 33:07and questions were asked about how the DOJ handled its
- 33:10dealings within law. While some findings criticized the government's conduct,
- 33:15others stopped short of endorsing the most explosive allegations. Still,
- 33:20the perception remained that something rotten had occurred. Meanwhile, ins
- 33:24Law fought for years in court. Though Hamilton scored some
- 33:28early victories upellate, court's later overturned rulings, leaving him without
- 33:32the vindication that he sought. The legal saga dragged on,
- 33:36consuming decades of his life and cementing Promise as a
- 33:39byword for David Verse. Goliath battles with the federal government.
- 33:44For intelligence watchers, the heart of the scandal was whether
- 33:47a Promise truly had been weaponized. The software's ability to
- 33:51cross reference data across multiple systems was revolutionary, and if
- 33:55implanted globally, with the hidden back door, it could have
- 33:59provided on par parallleled surveillance power. That possibility alone made
- 34:03the story enduring. Foreign intelligence services were reportedly caught on.
- 34:08Some accounts claimed that Canada, Britain, and even the Soviet
- 34:11Union became wary of Promise. Allegedly, hackers and foreign governments
- 34:16tried to reverse engineer it or strip out its supposed
- 34:19surveillance hooks. Whether fact or rumor, the story illustrated the
- 34:23paranoia of the late Cold War years. Even within the
- 34:27US suspicion sworld. Some whistleblowers claimed that Promise had been
- 34:32used to track not just criminals, but political dissidents, journalists,
- 34:36and activists. If true, this would have represented a chilling
- 34:40expansion of government surveillance under the guise of case management.
- 34:45By the two thousands, Promises had largely faded from public consciousness,
- 34:49but it never entirely disappeared. It became a touchstone in
- 34:53discussions about surveillance technology long before Edward Snowden's n essay revelations.
- 34:59For many, Promise was a prototype of software designed to
- 35:02look innocuous but function as a spy tool. The scandal
- 35:07also left scars on Inslaw and Hamilton. Despite decades of
- 35:11litigation and lobbying, he never fully recovered the company's footing.
- 35:15The story of Promise became a cautionary tell of how
- 35:18small innovators could be crushed when their technology intersected with
- 35:22national security interests. For researchers, Promise became part of a
- 35:27larger mythology. It was said to link everything from BCCI
- 35:32banking scandal to Iran contra, from covert arms deals to
- 35:36political assassinations. Whether or not those links were provable, Promise
- 35:41served as a narrative glue for an era of deep
- 35:43mistrust in the government. Critics meanwhile, caution that much of
- 35:48Promised lore rests on circumstantial evidence, conflicting testimony, and speculative leaps.
- 35:55They argue that while the DOJ likely mishandled its contract
- 35:58within's law, the grander espionage tales remain unproven. Still, the
- 36:03persistence of the story speaks to how plausible such tactics
- 36:06seemed during the Cold war, and Promise now occupies a
- 36:11strange space in history, part legal dispute, part espionage thriller,
- 36:15part conspiracy legend. Today, Promise is remembered less for its
- 36:19technical brilliance than for the scandal surrounding it, whether it
- 36:24was truly weaponized or not, the perception that it could
- 36:27have been as shaped decades a suspicion about government software
- 36:31deals and surveillance. That suspicion has only deepened in the
- 36:35digital age. And so the Promise scandal lingers a ghost
- 36:40of the eighties, and one ghost from the eighties that
- 36:43looms is none other than Robert Maxwell. And this is
- 36:46where he allegedly enters the story. So, now what we're
- 36:50going to talk about in this section is from sources
- 36:53and from people that are in the know. So I
- 36:55just want to make clear that I don't have the receipts,
- 36:58but this is what people who were involved in this
- 37:01have to say, including somebody that was very very very
- 37:05high up in Israeli intelligence who gave a deposition or
- 37:09an Affidavid I should say, talking about this very thing.
- 37:13So I'm going to say allegedly here and then I'm
- 37:16going to continue reading through the piece without saying allegedly,
- 37:20the story of Promise takes on an even darker and
- 37:23more labyrinthine dimensioned once Israel's Masad and the enigmatic figure
- 37:27of Robert Maxwell enter the frame. By the late eighties,
- 37:30rumors were already swirling that the software had already been
- 37:34spirited away from its American origins and modified abroad. In
- 37:38this version of events, Massad seized upon Promises cross reverencing
- 37:42power and inserted a hidden back door, turning the program
- 37:46into a weapon of surveillance far beyond anything Bill Hamilton
- 37:49of In's Law could have imagined. Robert Maxwell, the flamboyant
- 37:54and controversial British media mogul, soon emerged as a key
- 37:58character in this narrative. Known for his towering presence in
- 38:02Fleet Street and his tangled business empire, Maxwell was long
- 38:06suspected of intelligence ties. Some researchers insist he was not
- 38:11only an occasional asset, but a committed operative for the Masad,
- 38:15leveraging his media holdings and political influence to advance Israel's interests.
- 38:21When Promise entered the picture, Maxwell was perfectly positioned to
- 38:24become its global salesman. Robert Maxwell, publisher, deal maker and
- 38:29long time Israeli asset was perfectly placed to become the
- 38:32salesman for this new version. He had deep relationships with governments,
- 38:36parliament and security services. He could show up in Eastern Europe,
- 38:41Africa or Latin America offering advanced Western software package without
- 38:46drawing suspicion. Behind the glossy brochures, Maxwell was acting as
- 38:50a MASSAD cutout, ceting a compromise program into the very
- 38:54infrastructure of other states. Now the operation was elegant. Instead
- 38:59of breaking intown embassies or bribing informants, Masad can now
- 39:02simply watch through the back door of promise court systems,
- 39:06intelligence databases, financial transaction hubs. All of them became open books.
- 39:13Israeli and CIA analysts could see who was being prosecuted,
- 39:17which informants were being flipped, and which shell companies were
- 39:20moving arms money. Maxwell provided the front, Masad and the
- 39:25CIA provided the technology, and together they created a surveillance
- 39:29empire hidden inside of a case management program. All right, folks,
- 39:34we're going to wrap up episode one right here, and
- 39:36in the next episode we're gonna pick up where we
- 39:39left off. All of the information that goes with this
- 39:42episode can be found in the description box. What's up, everyone,
- 39:45and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In
- 39:49this episode, we're going to pick up where we left
- 39:51off talking about the Promise software scandal and how it
- 39:54intersects with Jeffrey Epstein. Evidence of Maxwell's intelligen work stretches
- 40:01back decades. Former Massad officers have gone on record calling
- 40:05him a trusted asset who carried out sensitive missions. His
- 40:08media empire gave him cover and access. It also gave
- 40:11him leverage. He could use his newspaper to build relationships
- 40:15with Head's estate, who would then be open to business pitches.
- 40:19The Promise operation fit perfectly within his skill set. He
- 40:23was a showman, a deal maker, and a man who
- 40:26understood secrets. Sources inside Israel later said that Massad had
- 40:31a dedicated unit for Promise. Engineers allegedly stripped down the code,
- 40:36inserted the trap door, and tested it before handing it
- 40:39out to Maxwell. He would then broker sales to governments
- 40:42who had no idea they were buying a trojan horse.
- 40:45The Soviets, the Chinese, the Canadians, even some US agencies
- 40:50all were rumored to have installed Promise at one point.
- 40:53In each case, Massad was effectively reading their mail in
- 40:56real time. Maxwell's mind oscou trips were not just journalistic junkets.
- 41:03One alleged meeting, he demonstrated Promise to KGB officials as
- 41:06a Western innovation that could streamline their bureaucracies. The KGB,
- 41:11always hungry for technological parody, took de bait By installing Promise.
- 41:16They opened their internal operation to Israeli surveillance at the
- 41:19tail end of the Cold War. It was an audacious move,
- 41:23Masad riding inside the KGB's own system. The operation extended
- 41:31to banks and trading platforms. Modified Promise versions were marketed
- 41:35to financial institutions under the banner of fraud detection and
- 41:40transaction tracking. Once installed, the software allowed Israeli intelligence to
- 41:44see how money moved across borders, which accounts were connected
- 41:47to arms dealers, and how covert funds were laundered. This
- 41:52was intelligence gold. Instead of chasing rumors, Masad had a
- 41:55live feed of the world's covert cash flow. Maxwell's cut
- 42:00was enormous. He reportedly earned tens of millions in commissions,
- 42:04which he used to prop up as crumbling business empire.
- 42:08Masad gained global reach. Both sides got what they wanted
- 42:11until Maxwell began to push for more. According to several
- 42:15intelligence veterans, he started using his knowledge of the operation
- 42:19to extract larger payments, threatening to expose it if he
- 42:22wasn't paid. That was a dangerous game to play with
- 42:25the service known for eliminating liabilities. Inside Washington, pieces of
- 42:31the story began to break. Journalists like Danny Cassilero stumbled
- 42:36on the fragments of the Promise Maxwell operation. Cassilero called
- 42:40it the Octopus, a network of intelligence, organized crime, and
- 42:45high finance. He told friends he was close to blowing
- 42:48it open. Days later, he was found dead in a
- 42:51hotel bathtub with his wrist slashed. Officially suicide. Unofficially, many
- 42:57believe he was silent for getting too close to the
- 43:00truth about Promise and Maxwell. Congressional inquiries were hamstrung, witnesses recanted,
- 43:07documents vanished, and intelligence agency stonewalled. The final reports were cautious,
- 43:13but between the lines they acknowledged evidence that Promise had
- 43:16been transferred to Israel and repackaged. What they didn't say
- 43:20openly was that it had become one of the most
- 43:23successful covert operations of the Lake col War, giving a
- 43:26small country unprecedented insight into the affairs of superpowers. Maxwell's
- 43:33death in nineteen ninety one, his body floating off his yacht,
- 43:37the Lady Glaine, fits this pattern. Officially, it was an
- 43:40accident or suicide, but intelligence insiders have long whispered that
- 43:45it was an execution. Maxwell had become a liability, his debt'smounting,
- 43:49his demands growing. Rather than risking exposure of the Promise operation,
- 43:54Masad cut him loose. Within weeks, his companies collapsed, his
- 43:58secrets scattered, and his reputeeation shifted from tycoon to a
- 44:02disgraced businessman. Even after his death, traces a Promised network persisted.
- 44:08Governments quietly replaced the software, but not before years of
- 44:11sensitive data had been siphoned off. Financial institutions rewrote their systems,
- 44:16but by then the intelligence had already been harvested. For Israel,
- 44:21the operation was a triumph. For the rest of the world,
- 44:24it was a cautionary tale about how easily a benign
- 44:27program could be turned into a global surveillance platform. The
- 44:31Promise affair also showed how the lines between allies and
- 44:35adversaries blur and intelligence work. The United States looked the
- 44:39other way while its ally used stolen software to spy
- 44:42on governments, including perhaps American agencies themselves. The scandal foreshadowed
- 44:48later revelations about the NSA's global spying. Promise was the prototype. Maxwell,
- 44:54Massad and the CIA were the pioneers for Bill Hamilton.
- 44:58Learning that his software had been use this way was
- 45:00a bitter revelation. He had built Promise to help prosecutors
- 45:04catch criminals. Instead, it had become an instrument of espionage, theft,
- 45:08perhaps murder. Hamilton's decades long legal battle with the Justice
- 45:13Department was never just about money. It was about reclaiming
- 45:17his creation from the shadows that had consumed it. Maxwell's
- 45:21involvement also underscored how powerful nonstate actors can be aligned
- 45:25with intelligent services. He wasn't a case officer or a
- 45:29spy in the traditional sense. He was a billionaire publisher
- 45:33who could pick up the phone and reach presidents by
- 45:36turning him into their frontmen their asset. Massad leverage not
- 45:40just his network, but his reputation, cloaking their operation in respectability.
- 45:45This story also explains why so many key players died
- 45:48suddenly or saw their reputations destroyed. Promise wasn't just another
- 45:53government contract. It was the golden key to the world's
- 45:56most sensitive data. People who tried to expose it, from
- 45:59Castlero to Maxwell himself, maybe ended up dead. Others, like Hamilton,
- 46:05were buried under lawsuits and financial ruin. The pattern speaks
- 46:09louder than the official denials. In the years since, the
- 46:13classified fragments and whistleblower accounts have continued to emerge, each
- 46:18reinforcing the outline of the CIA Maxwell Massad promise operation.
- 46:23They don't prove every detail, but together they draw a
- 46:26picture of a covert program that use stolen software, a
- 46:29global salesman, and a small intelligence service to spy on
- 46:32the world. Today, a promise is mostly forgotten by the public,
- 46:36but inside the intelligence community it is remembered as a
- 46:40template modern spyware operations like stucks Net or a Pegasus echo.
- 46:45Its structure a trojan horse, designed as a legitimate product,
- 46:49distributed through commercial channels and used to penetrate high value targets.
- 46:54In that sense, Maxwell, the CIA, and the MASAD were
- 46:57way ahead of their time. Seen this way, the Promise
- 47:01saga is not a conspiracy but an early chapter in
- 47:04the story of the digital surveillance state. It shows how
- 47:07software can be weaponized, how frontmen can launder espionage, and
- 47:12how official inquiries can be blunted. It's a case study
- 47:15in covert power, and Robert Maxwell's fingerprints are all over it.
- 47:20And that's why, decades later, the Promise scandal still resonates.
- 47:25When you look at this story and you look at
- 47:27Epstein through the lens of intelligence operations, many of the
- 47:30features echo the Promise saga, secrecy, infiltration, frontmen, and sudden deaths.
- 47:36The same tools and tactics that turn a piece of
- 47:39software like Promise into a trojan horse mirror how a
- 47:42sex trafficking ring might be weaponized as a black mail operation.
- 47:46In both cases, the outward face is benign or even
- 47:49socially acceptable, the hidden purpose is control. Epstein's connections to
- 47:54the Maxwell family, especially Golaine, and the legacy of Robert
- 47:58Maxwell provide a bridge between the world the world of
- 48:00espionage and the world of sexual control. Robert Maxwell, already
- 48:05alleged to have been Masad linked and the distributor of
- 48:08covert tools like Promise, passed some of those shadows to
- 48:11his daughter, who later became Epstein's principal collaborator and social broker.
- 48:17The Maxwell link is thus not incidental. It suggests continuity
- 48:21and intelligence link networks from one generation to the next.
- 48:24One of the hallmarks in both Promise and Epstein's narrative
- 48:28is the use of plausible deniability. In the Promise case,
- 48:32salesmen shell companies and frontmen obscure the true origin of
- 48:35the software as trapped doors. In Epstein's case, high society donors,
- 48:40philanthropic pretenses, and elite networks shield the darker underpinnings of
- 48:44his operation. Just as the MASAD or the CIA might
- 48:48insert itself behind the software vendor, so too might it
- 48:52or similar agencies hide behind the guise of a financier
- 48:56who seems to collect powerful people. In both narratives, rect
- 49:00mutational control is critical. Promise scandal was filtered through legal proceedings,
- 49:05classified reports, redactions and denials. Epstein scandal has been filtered
- 49:10through gag orders, seal filings, plea deals, non disclosures, and
- 49:14manipulated media. The playbook is familiar Bury, the paper trail villifier,
- 49:19silence those who dig too deep and keep the system opaque.
- 49:24Epstein's possible ties to intelligence are not just speculative fluff.
- 49:28They have some structural resemblance to operations known in intelligence lore.
- 49:33For example, former CIA officer John carrickw described Epstein as
- 49:38a textbook example of an access agent, someone whose role
- 49:42is to grant intelligence services entree into networks of influence,
- 49:46rather than act as a violent operative. That is exactly
- 49:49the sort of role that a trojanized Promise would have played,
- 49:53not as a blunt instrument, but as a key to infiltration.
- 49:57Rumors that Epstein might have worked with Masad if circ
- 50:00sulated widely with press outlets and analysts noting that is MO,
- 50:04gathering compromising material, cultivating powerful acquaintances, controlling private spaces is
- 50:10consistent with classic intelligence blackmail operations. One particularly suggestive connection
- 50:16is Epstein's relationship with Ehud Brock, a former Prime Minister
- 50:20of Israel. Barack met Epstein dozens of times, reportedly flew
- 50:24on his private jet and was an investment partner in
- 50:26technology ventures linked to defense and surveillance that overlap between financial, political,
- 50:33and intelligence spheres mirrors the model seen in Promise, where
- 50:37Masad linked actors use commercial software to interpose themselves into
- 50:41state systems. Another echo is the operational use of data capture,
- 50:48just as Promise trappdoors could siphon case files and legal data.
- 50:51Epstein's properties were allegedly wired with surveillance cameras and recording devices.
- 50:57Some observers suggest he gathered material on yes, perhaps for leverage.
- 51:01The kind of asymmetric leverage is precisely what an intelligence
- 51:05apparatus might cultivate. The deaths, too, and even the deaths themselves,
- 51:11follow an all too familiar pattern. In's Law's enemies or
- 51:14perceived enemies face legal ruin or suppression. Maxwell met a
- 51:18mysterious watery death. Danny Cassilero died in a suspicious bathtub scenario.
- 51:24In Epstein's case, he died under contested circumstances while jailed,
- 51:28allegedly by suicide. Yet many people believe foul play was plausible.
- 51:33The coincidence of high stakes intelligence conspiracies and bodies in
- 51:37water is part of the mythology. Maxwell's death offers a
- 51:41particularly acute crossroads. If Masad partly orchestrated the promised distribution
- 51:47and Maxwell was implicated in it, then Maxwell's demise may
- 51:51have been a signal a sabotage or a cleanup. Was
- 51:54Epstein just a continuance of the networks that operated under
- 51:58the same logic, you said, finance, power, and technology to entangle, compromise,
- 52:03and control. That continuity is what draws many researchers to
- 52:08see the Epstein scandal not as a separate moral collapse,
- 52:12but as the next stitch in the covert operations quilt.
- 52:17All right, folks, we're gonna wrap up right here, and
- 52:19in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're gonna
- 52:21pick up where we left off. All of the information
- 52:24that goes with this episode can be found in the
- 52:27description box.