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Ep. 223. All things nerdy with Richard Nebens · Vigilante Vibes Podcast

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Hello to all the Marvel fans, comic geeks, and all the nerds
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in between. Welcome to another episode of
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the Vigilantevides podcast where we talk all things Marvel
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without the toxicity that's taken up way too much time in
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each and every fandom, not just Marvel.
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I'm your host, Megan Nicole, and today I am very pleased to
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introduce a very special guest today.
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I'm joined by someone who has been on the show before, but it
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has been way too long. And ever since then, he's been
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making all kinds of moves in the nerd world and in the world of
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media. Please welcome Richard Nebbins.
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Thank you so much. It's a it's great to be back.
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It's it's definitely been way too long since since we've done
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this and I'm glad to be back. Yeah, you came in when the first
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trailer of Deadpool Wolverine was had just released.
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Yeah, which I mean that was like 2 years ago now.
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Yeah, yeah. So for some, I have new
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listeners and they may not remember you being on because it
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was 2 freaking years ago. So why don't you tell my
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listeners a little bit about you?
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Yeah. So I am a entertainment
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journalist is that's my my job. I write mostly for the direct,
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but I also have a new job that I just started about a month and a
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half ago at Movie Web. It's a, it's kind of a
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subsidiary of Green Rant and Collider and those guys.
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And, you know, I'm working my way up in the business.
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I've got, you know, a bunch of articles for my name, but I
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love, I love covering everything in the entertainment space.
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I, I mean, I specifically could focus on like Marvel, DC, Star
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Wars, that kind of thing. But, but I covered just about
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everything. And you know, I, I love what I
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do. It's, it's a great gig and I was
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looking forward to seeing like what 2026 has to offer and what
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the future has to offer offer me with this position.
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It's it's a lot of fun. Yeah.
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And I remember before when you were just doing the direct and
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it was like you were always busy.
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So my question is, when do you sleep?
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That, that is a good question. Yeah.
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Things have slowed down a little bit at the direct, which, you
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know, partially why I got the movie web gig.
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And I'm working with a great team over there.
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My buddy, my buddy Joe Deckelmeyer, he's he was the
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former guy, main guy at Screen Rand, who does like all the big
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interviews with everybody on the planet in in the movie world.
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And yeah, I know I'm looking forward to hopefully doing some
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big things. They're working my way up and,
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you know, hopefully getting some big events and premieres and
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doing more of like what I really want to do in this space.
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But, but no, I have been pretty much ever since I got back from
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my vacation a couple weeks ago, I have been busting my tail
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writing like crazy. I probably didn't been doing
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anywhere from 6 to 9 articles a day, almost every day.
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And, and, and I love it. I mean, I mean, it's, it's
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tiring and you know, it's, it's, it, it could take a lot, but
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it's, it's a great job. And honestly, I, I get to work
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from home and write about movies and TV for a living.
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I'm not sure I could really get a cushier gig than that.
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That's true. So you mentioned working your
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way up to doing the things you really want to do.
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What is that? I mean, eventually I'd love to
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like do more interviews with people and like go to premieres
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and things like that in the in the journalism world.
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I've got friends who like what Joe does that they'd like do
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panels at comic cons with all these celebrities and stuff.
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But I'm working a bit up to it. I'm actually just about to hit
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six years at the direct Which? Is.
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Pretty thank you. Yeah, being pretty huge
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accomplishment. I don't think I've ever been at
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a job for six years. And, and that's been a great
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team. I've put out so many articles
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and I've done like podcasts and interviews.
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There's I've actually just recorded a, a Patreon episode
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for Direct Podcast with my buddy David this morning, which is up
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on the Direct Podcast Patreon account.
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It's only like I think the top amount you could do is like 5
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bucks a month if you want. If anybody out there wants to
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join us, it's a great group of people.
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We get. We have our own Discord channel
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and we talk about movies and stuff all the time and that's a
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great podcast to listen to if you guys are ever in the need
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for something else besides obviously, obviously the joint
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vibes. Thanks.
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Speaking of podcasts, it feels, I feel like I see you everywhere
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now. Like I see the direct, I see
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movie web, but then I see you on like fundamentals.
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I see you on Hops Geeks News and it's like this guy really gets
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around. I, I am just glad that I have so
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many friends in this industry who like can tolerate me and
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like me and like having me talk about movies and TV and stuff.
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You know, I, like I said, I'm lucky that I get to like be in
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the movie world for a living. Like I actually get to pay my
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bills by watching movies and TV shows.
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I mean, how many people can really say that?
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Facts because a lot of us are still trying to get paid for
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doing this stuff and you are living on dream.
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Well, thank you. You're welcome.
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You just, you're doing so much and it's all very, very cool
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stuff. Like you, like I said, you're
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living the nerds dream doing all of this.
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So you write so many articles a day, which I have to tell you,
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that sounds exhausting. I hate writing.
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I hate it. You know, it's funny coming from
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somebody who used to be the world's worst writer.
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Could not write an essay to save my life from middle school
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through college. I still can't believe that this
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is what I do for a living every day.
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Like considering that like the fact that I barely passed
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English and like all of my English and writing classes from
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middle school through college and I do this for like and get
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paid for it now is insane. You ever look back at your old
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articles and you're like, oh, what did I do?
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Yes. All the time.
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But like, like from 5-6 years ago.
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Yeah. I'm just thinking like what was
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I doing? And like, And like, I know like
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formats have changed and like that all so much has changed
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over the last few years, but it is kind of funny looking back on
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that kind of stuff. And like, and I've made it like
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I've made on, on stuff like ifunny and people have like
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posted my stuff on like weird places all over the Internet.
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And it is weird like finding stuff like that on the Internet.
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But like my family has sent me stuff like that every once in a
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while. Oh.
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My God and. It's and it's wild.
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I've never even thought about that aspect of it.
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Yeah, like I remember once one specific one that I remember,
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it's just hilarious. I ended up on I funny once for
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this article I wrote, I think it was on the Amber Heard thing,
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like during all the Aquaman stuff and somebody posted like
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the first little bit of my article next to that meme that
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goes the Lion, the Witch and the audacity of this bitch.
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It was pretty great. So many good memes came out of
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that point in time. Yes.
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So you are pretty much ahead of the game when it comes to like
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movies, TV shows, everything that's happening.
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What are you looking most forward to this year?
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Avengers, Doomsday, anybody, I mean like, I mean kind of like
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the biggest superhero movie possibly ever, you know, that's
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going to be a lot of fun. Obviously Spider Man obviously
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I'm really looking forward to all the DC stuff too.
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Like we just got that Lanterns trailer today, you know, think.
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Of. Now the Lanterns, the Lantern
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show looks awesome. I'm really excited for
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Supergirl. Clayface is going to be a lot of
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fun. I'm looking forward to seeing
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what they do. Like, I'm not much of A horror
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person, but I'm excited to see like what the comic book movie
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world horror movie looks like. And then I mean, obviously we
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got Star Wars 2, Mando and Grogu.
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That should be a lot of fun. Yeah.
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And then just just so much stuff, obviously that like I
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have to keep track of, like I just watched.
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I just been catching up on Monarch, Legacy of Monsters,
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early Season 2 stuff. Wrote a couple of exclusives for
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my buddy Joe that he got from the cast, like did today and
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yesterday. And yeah, no, it should be a
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really, really big year for just the whole movie and TV world in
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general. Yeah, and we still have
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Daredevil this month and Vision Quest is supposed to happen at
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some point. And the Punishers special.
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And it's like, what are we? How are we going to breathe?
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Like content creators, this is this is our year to thrive.
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Exactly like, like it's, it's a crazy gig for writers and
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content creators and everything but it, but it's so fun.
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Like we've got, we have so much to cover this year.
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Yeah, just today, like you said, the Lanterns teaser came out.
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I thought it looked fantastic. Half the fandom did not.
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They were not. I know the the suit is a little
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weird. Well I am curious to see where
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they what they do with that in the show.
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Did not expect it to be so F bomb heavy.
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Although he should have because I guess Nathan Fillion said that
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he, I remember if there was a quote he said where he's like,
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he had more F bombs than that than I think anything he'd ever
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done before. I didn't expect to be in the
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teaser like 3 or 4 times. And it's like, I love Kyle
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Chandler, I'll watch him be a dink in a show.
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I'm good. Yeah, yeah, I love him and I'm
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really liking Aaron Pierre as as Jon Stewart so far.
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I've just decided to get more Green Lanterns up because I
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think he's one of the coolest DC characters and literally this is
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the first live action DC thing we've gotten since Ryan
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Reynolds. Yeah, that did happen, didn't
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it? That that certainly happened.
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I was. Like I was like 20 when that
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movie came out and I remember thinking it was so cool and like
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all the effects and everything and I was just a dumb 20 year
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old that it is. It is perfectly enjoyable.
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Ryan Reynolds does his thing, but.
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I fell afleet like 10 minutes in and then the next day I was
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asked like, do you want to try to give it another try?
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I was like no, no, no I don't. Cause at that point I found Ryan
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Reynolds so irritating as a person, but then he got into
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Deadpool and I was like this fits, this is good.
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But in everything else, I'm like, dude, just shut this guy
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up. Yeah, right.
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Yeah, but I liked it. I thought it was really fun.
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I do have questions like how is he the only Green Lantern when
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Guy Gardner is right there? So does that mean this is back
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in time? Like is this early 90s eighties?
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I thought that I had to like, is this a prequel kind of thing?
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Like does he not know about Guy Gardner yet?
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Is it like way before Superman happens And like, because they
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think they're the only human Green Lanterns?
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No, I I'm very curious to see where they go with that route.
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And people are so quick to say, no, this isn't it, This isn't
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it. They're not going to boot up
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till like the Ace episode. And it's like, just let them
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cook because a lot of you have been proven wrong by James Gunn
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lately, so. Peacemaker, anybody?
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I actually have not seen season 2.
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I'll say this, it's not quite as great as season 1 to me, but I
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still really really really like it.
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I mean honestly Peacemaker season 1 is probably my one of
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my favorite like DC properties ever.
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I didn't have to be. I have to admit something to
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you. I didn't like Season 1, but
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that's only because I didn't like John.
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I don't like John Cena that much.
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But now, like over the years, I've grown to appreciate him as
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an actor, and not just because it's.
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Kind of like. Yeah, it's kind of like if the
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UFC fighter jumped in to a main acting role.
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I'm like, I can't take you seriously.
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I've seen you being clipped in the nuts before.
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Like I can't do it. Yeah, I mean, I'll say between
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between him, The Rock and like Dave Batista and everything,
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honestly, I think he's probably done the best job of like
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transitioning from like wrestling to acting and
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everything. But I'm curious to see where he
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goes from here, like after Peacemaker.
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But I do love, I love the Peacemaker show.
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I want to give it another try but it's just like I'm just so
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busy so. And also, and also I got to give
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John, I got to give John Cena credit to apparently he is one
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of the nicest people ever to talk to.
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Like everybody I've talked to who's interviewed him before
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says he is just a gem. So that, so I I appreciate a lot
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for that. Which is crazy because like
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10-15 years ago I used to like religiously listen to I live
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near DC and they had this like big radio channel and they said
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who was the meanest celebrity you've ever met?
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And almost every call was Cena. Every single call.
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It was like all like 10 calls, but one was not.
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And I and I was like, I guess he is an asshole.
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And then the next thing I hear he's like, oh, he broke the
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world record for the most Make a wish foundation events.
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He's gone. And I was like, what is he
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playing at? Yeah, and maybe maybe he's just
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really grown over the years and. That's what I like to think.
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I really like to think that WWE, him leaving it, is he done?
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Is he out? I think he's officially retired.
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OK, so him stepping back and then finally retiring, like
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changed him some. That's what I like to think.
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Yeah, but no, I'm glad to see where he's going.
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Especially Peacemaker. I want to know is Peacemaker
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going to show up in some movies? Is it going to be a big part?
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Also blue beetle? Where's Blue Beetle?
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Oh, seriously, I loved Blue Beetle.
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That's that movie. Yeah, I had a lot of fun with
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Blue Beetle. I'm like, I know they're working
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on an animated series, but I don't know about like, live
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action or anything. I really hope they bring him
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back. I.
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Do too. I love this movie it was so
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underrated but when I went. He was in that weird flux time.
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He was in that weird flux time between like the transition
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between the the Snyder stuff and the gun stuff.
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Yeah, because James Gunn had to actually come out and say he's
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going to be a part of the new DC.
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And it's like, I was like, oh, thank God, but I went to the
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movie theater and only person in the theater on a Friday, only
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one. It was like such a kick in the
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Nats. Like, man, I liked it.
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It was a fun, fun movie. It was funny.
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I remember my wife and I did a triple feature the day we saw
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Blue Beetle. We saw Blue Beetle, Teenage
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Mutant Ninja Turtles and Barbie all on the same day.
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That's the only time we I think that's the only time we've ever
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done a double feature, much less a triple.
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And it it was so fun. We loved all three.
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I would fall asleep so hard. So like, how did, how, how many
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snacks did you sleep in there? I think we ended up doing like a
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couple of popcorns and a couple of drinks or something.
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We, we snuck a couple of things in, you know, here and there,
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but I, I think actually in the beginning of Barbie, I think my
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wife fell asleep for a little bit, but that was for ruling
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time. So I mean, we got through 3
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movies in a day pretty solidly. I know that was that had to be
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at the Barbenheimer time and now we're going to get Doones day,
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which is like Doom and Doomsday. It's like, look, I can only take
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so much. I can't do a double feature.
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I can't do a single feature because they're doesn't matter
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the movie. At one point I might fall asleep
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because I'm tired as a person, but like, how did you do 3?
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It's like a superpower. It was, it was pretty, pretty
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fun. And you know, it's funny too,
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thinking about the whole doomsday doom thing.
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I'm actually I I I appreciate the Dune movies for like, I
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mean, how they're made and everything.
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Not the biggest fan of them. I like them enough.
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But like, like if you're going to make me pick between Doomsday
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and Doom, give me Doomsday every day of the week.
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It's like die hard Marvel fan. Doom Dune has always been an
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afterthought for me as well. Like if I have nothing else to
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watch, I'll try it. I and then I watch it.
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I was like, you know, it was like it was like super OK, but I
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didn't read the book, didn't do any of that.
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So it's like, I don't know, it's, it's what I but I'm not
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about to go sit in a theater for three hours to watch these big
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old piles of sand and Timothy Charlemagne apparently doing the
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best job he's ever done, According to him.
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Yeah, I I've got my share of three hour movies that I will
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watch and most of them are the Lord of the Rings ones now,
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because I've, I've been on a real Lord of the Rings kick ever
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since the Comic Con cruise that I went on with where it had like
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Billy Boy, Dominic Monahan and a couple other like big people
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from. From that, this is your second
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year on the Comic Con. Cruise.
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Yeah, Cruise. Yeah, Thank you.
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I wanted to say parade, and it made no sense in this situation.
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Tell me about that, because personally, I'm not a cruise
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person, but I never heard of this before.
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You said you were going. And I am so invested because
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this sounds insane to me. Well, and that's the problem is
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apparently for hopefully not forever, but they don't have
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another one planned. They're like reworking it and
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hoping to bring it back in the next like year or two.
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But this thing was so fun. Literally it was sponsored by
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San Diego Comic Con and it was basically a giant Comic Con on a
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cruise. There's like, you know,
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thousands of people there. You know, it's a four day thing.
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And they brought in a ton of like big movie stars to do like
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panels and like like Felicia Day from Supernatural was the host
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both years and and she did a fantastic job the first.
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So the first year I did Ernie Hudson, Grace Caroline Curry and
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Virginia Gardner. And then this year I didn't get
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any interviews, but I met Doug Jones from Hocus Pocus, Ashley,
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Ashley Eckstein from Star Wars Ahsoka, Billy Gordon, Dominic
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Monahan from Lord of the Rings, And then, oh, Jason Isaacs from
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Harry Potter. I got pictures with all of them
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and and it was just so. Oh my gosh.
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And so it's a Comic Con. Are people like constantly
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dressed up? Not all the time, but there are
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like incredible cosplays just all over.
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Actually. It was really cool with my wife
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and I did one this year. We did.
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I don't know if you know what we Do in the Shadows.
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Laszlo and Nadja and she, she made everything like both of our
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costumes, just about everything in it took her, I think almost
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80 hours to do. And we actually got a judge's
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award at the at the Cosby competition they held.
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I mean we lost to a guy who literally was 6 foot 7 and had a
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handmade Chewbacca costume on. Can't.
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Beat that. No, no, He was standing right
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behind us in the in the judging line and like, yeah, you're
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going to win. Like we weren't even mad about
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it. That's so cool.
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I like, I love comic cons, I love conventions, I love them
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all. But like all of it on a boat.
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It's hard to wrap my head around 'cause I'm like, that's just so
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much awesomeness and one sitting for like a constant time period.
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Yeah, I know. It's so great.
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There's literally stuff going on from morning till night.
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There's late night stuff. This time there was a they had a
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trivia night for Lord of the Rings with Billy Boyd, Dominic
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Monahan and I think one other person.
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But but and, and like it, it's just so much fun.
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You make such good friends there because that's the thing about
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the cruises. Like it's all people who love
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like comic cons and movies and TV and stuff.
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So you make friends so easy. Like I know so many people from
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that now that I'm going to be keeping in touch with for such a
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long time and like I'm just fingers crossed they bring it
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back like I because my wife and I so want to go again.
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And that's a great networking situation as well for someone in
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the media you're getting. Totally.
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You're meeting new people, making new connections, and
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you're right in the middle of all of it.
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Totally. Yeah.
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Like, I mean, there's people who do like YouTube channels and
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podcasts and stuff and like, and some people who do what I do.
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No, it's a great place to like meet people and do that kind of
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stuff. Oh wow, so you are a huge Marvel
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fan. Yes.
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Yes, and something I've always appreciated about you because
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same. But do you have any Marvel hot
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takes? Because I'm a sucker for those.
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I don't know if I had any 2 crazy hot takes for me
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personally. The one thing I will say is I
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will defend almost anything from the MCU like no doubt.
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I know where this is going. The and like, I know like you
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and me disagree about love and Thunder.
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Me and just about everybody disagree about love and Thunder.
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But the one thing I will say is the one Marvel thing that I just
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cannot get behind. Secret evasion.
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Yeah, yeah. As soon as you said I, I take up
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for almost all of that. I was like, there's that one,
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that one that keeps us up at night.
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There is the one like it that just and I remember really
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wanting to like it at 1st and even like liking parts of it at
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first. I remember I did a review of it
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with my guys on the direct podcast afterwards and like it
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just looking back on it. I just, it just makes me so
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angry that they, I mean, a, a, it should have been a movie.
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I think, I think it maybe could have been a double dose of
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movies considering how big that story is.
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And like, and I think the thing that gets me the most mad about
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it is they did all the good stuff and the stuff they should
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have done throughout the series in the last 10 minutes of the
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last episode. Like like all the paranoia about
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the scrolls and everything and like just the world going nuts.
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That's what should have been the entire series.
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And, and, and also, I love Talos.
21:06
I love Ben Mendelsohn as Talos and I'm so mad that they killed
21:08
him off. I think if Marvel said look
21:13
guys, we're going to pretend it didn't happen, I think the
21:16
everyone would be like, word, it's cool.
21:18
Not Cam. When it's cool, bring Maria.
21:20
Back and I did think of one other thing too.
21:24
I wish they would have kept the Inhumans movie in in the slate
21:30
because because remember that they did that big phase 3
21:32
announcement at the El Capitan and and the Inhumans was part of
21:37
it. And that was like right as they
21:38
were starting off the inhuman stuff on ages of shield two in
21:41
season 2, I think. I mean, I know we've got the
21:44
X-Men now and that's awesome and I can't wait to see where they
21:47
go with the X-Men. But I know they were doing the
21:48
Inhumans to like, you know, I don't necessarily replace the
21:53
X-Men, but stayed in for him until they got the rights back.
21:56
And, and I thought that would have been such a cool, you know,
22:00
group of people to do. And I wish they, I, I, I would
22:02
just love if they just ignored the, the series that they did
22:06
and, and like, just try it again because, because I think, I
22:10
think Vin Diesel is Black Bolt would be one of the coolest
22:12
castings ever, if I'm being perfectly honest.
22:14
Well, he's already Groot. Well, that's The thing is he
22:17
talks there, but he's just CGI. This one, it would just be his
22:22
body and he wouldn't have to talk.
22:24
See I agree because we should be making him work for all that
22:28
money he's getting for saying 3 and sometimes 4 words.
22:31
I mean, it is a damn good gig. It's it's, I mean.
22:35
It might be cushier than yours. Honestly, yeah, get to go to
22:39
recording studio for what? And also I will say though, he
22:42
does all of the all of the dubs for it like on all the other
22:46
languages I've I've heard like does stays in the studio and and
22:49
doesn't just do the English. So, so I appreciate that about
22:51
it at least. He does have that going for him.
22:55
Yeah, and of course he's got Fast and Furious and everything.
22:57
He's he's got a good life. But but no like I I would love
23:01
to see them actually do the Inhumans right.
23:05
I agree. I when they announced that,
23:09
you're right, it was at the time where Agents of SHIELD was
23:11
starting to dip their toe into it.
23:13
And that's when I thought, OK, Agents of SHIELD is about to
23:16
become one and one with the MCU. Yeah.
23:20
And then I feel like something happened.
23:22
They're like, no, no, no, we are going to turn away from that
23:25
completely. Yeah, I think that was part of
23:28
the whole like Ike Perlmutter thing, like back of the day and
23:30
like with him and Feige being at each other's throats or
23:32
whatever. And thank God that whole thing
23:35
ended. But.
23:36
But I think that's also what they're trying to make up for
23:38
with like, you know, the mole Marvel TV thing now in phase
23:41
four and beyond. Because really, the series have,
23:44
outside of a couple exceptions, done a really good job of like
23:48
integrating with the entire, I mean, maybe like stuff like Moon
23:51
Night isn't maybe as connected as we'd like it to be.
23:54
But other than that, I mean, I think they've done a really good
23:56
job of really connecting everything between movies and
24:00
TV. Moon Night, it's it's such a
24:03
hard place to be because if you haven't read any Moon Night
24:07
comics whatsoever, you know nothing about that man.
24:10
You're like, oh, a pretty good show.
24:11
They did pretty well. But then if you have, it's like,
24:14
OK, well, first of all, no, it's a good show.
24:18
But it's not like, yeah, you just made-up a whole bunch of
24:21
stuff about Moon Night and put it in a show.
24:22
And I dubbed the show, but it was like when I was watching, I
24:25
was like, what? What are we talking about here?
24:29
Yeah, and, and like, I mean, especially me being Jewish,
24:31
that's like, that's my guy. I mean, I love that we've got a
24:33
Jewish superhero, but no. And and there was there was some
24:37
really cool stuff in that series.
24:39
Like I don't, I don't Yeah, I don't dislike it at all.
24:43
I just wish, I just wish they could have like gone further
24:45
with some things. And maybe and I wish it would
24:47
get a season 2. I I hope it gets a season 2 or
24:50
that they bring him into that Moon night Midnight Suns movies
24:52
that they're talking about. See, I don't think it should get
24:55
a season 2 because I I think it was there to introduce who he
25:00
is, introduce Layla and I think it was just stopped there.
25:03
I don't think he'll ever get a season 2, but I do think he's
25:05
going to show up at some point because he was originally
25:08
supposed to be in Kang Dynasty. Right.
25:11
Yeah, yeah. But then you know.
25:13
Everything changed and. Everything changed and it's like
25:16
he very well could be showing up again.
25:18
But I do think Midnight Suns would be the way to go.
25:22
But I think you have to introduce those other characters
25:24
first. Don't give us an eternal
25:25
situation. Totally.
25:27
Yeah. And like, and I've always said
25:30
actually another one, I thought about Eternals just because I, I
25:33
love that one because that's like the first big movie
25:35
premiere I've ever been to was Eternals.
25:37
That's right, you went to it. Yeah, it, it was so much fun,
25:41
the time of my life. I think what they should have
25:43
done with Eternals, even if they kept the same movie The way it
25:47
was, I think they should have done a Disney Plus series,
25:49
introducing all of them at first.
25:51
Like like do 6 episodes, maybe one or two of them each per
25:55
episode, have them team up at the end for something big.
25:57
And that would have set them up really well for movies.
26:00
Because I think the problem with that movie was you had way too
26:05
many new characters to introduce who barely anybody had ever
26:07
heard of before. I mean, Lilia, there was the 10
26:09
Eternals, Dane Whitman, you know, Crow, the the Deviants,
26:16
all that stuff. Like I liked it, I enjoyed the
26:19
movie, but I think it was way too much for like the casual fan
26:24
to to dive into at the same time.
26:27
Yeah, if the only familiar voice you know in a movie is ends up
26:31
being Blade at the end. And you have to like, and you
26:35
have to hear from other people that it's Blade.
26:37
You don't even like, know for sure who that is, because I
26:40
didn't know it was Blade when it first came up at the post
26:42
credited. Like people, I had people
26:44
whispered to me like, oh, that's virtual Ali.
26:45
And like, yeah, but and even then, like, yeah, when you don't
26:50
know for sure that that's Blade and, and, and that's literally
26:54
the final seconds, yeah. Yeah, and they they broke my
26:58
heart because he doesn't know he's in love with me yet.
27:02
But Harry Styles will know someday.
27:04
And they made him Star Fox. And I was like, say no more.
27:09
I don't care how this movie comes out.
27:11
I'm in. I don't care.
27:12
Do whatever you want, just to make sure I'm there and.
27:15
I had I had non comic book movie fan family members asking me
27:20
about sex. I got a bunch of like girl
27:22
cousins who are all younger than me and like, yeah, a couple of
27:26
them are definitely into hairstyles.
27:28
Well, he's just a God. I mean, just a voice of an
27:32
Angel. I make sure between Fergie and
27:34
Jesus, you know. But then they just pretended it
27:37
never happened. It was like you bastards.
27:40
You gave us Pip the troll too though.
27:41
Like you gave us so much. And I love Patton Oswalt too.
27:44
Like like he's Marvel legend Patton Oswalt.
27:48
Yeah, And you could have set up so much like you had the Black
27:50
Knight. You set up, laid all of it.
27:53
And then you just were like, you know what?
27:54
Never mind, we suck. Pretend this never happened.
27:57
And then it took us 10 years to figure out what's going on with
28:01
that big old statue, and here we are.
28:05
And honestly, like, like that wasn't, it wasn't bad what they
28:07
did. I, I didn't actually didn't mind
28:09
what they did with that in Cat 4.
28:10
But the fact that it took us, yeah.
28:12
But the fact that it took us so long to get there, literally it
28:15
took five, almost 5 full years to to get there.
28:19
And. We only got like one reference
28:21
to that and that was in She Hulk and it was.
28:24
And it wasn't even a line. It was like on a computer
28:26
screen. Yeah, yeah, you had to.
28:27
Like you had. To it was an Easter egg.
28:31
They didn't want you to see it like.
28:33
Yeah, right. And now it's like, all right,
28:36
well, you've announced a lot of things for Wednesday and not one
28:40
eternal so. Yeah, I mean, fingers crossed
28:43
for Secret Wars because like, I mean, they're bringing, I really
28:46
can't complain with what they're bringing to Doomsday.
28:48
I mean, they've got the Russo Brothers directing it.
28:49
They've got what, 20 MCU people, all the X-Men.
28:53
I mean, it's and there's more we haven't heard about.
28:56
There's rumors that Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman have a
28:58
have a part in it just. Leave them out of it because I'm
29:01
tired, tired of those two. They their promotional campaign
29:06
for Deadpool's like that is just enough.
29:08
Do nothing else. And then it ends with us came
29:12
out and they took over that campaign.
29:13
I was like, I hope you 2 fall in a hole.
29:17
And now I'm just like just leave me alone.
29:19
Both of you go away for a while. But yeah, no, it's it's so
29:22
funny, like thinking about doomsday, like the cast that's
29:24
already announced and who they've shown in the trailers
29:26
and everything and thinking about who they haven't like
29:30
talked about, because there's no way that just that is the cast.
29:35
It there's, there has to be other people that they're not
29:38
bringing up because why all the secrecy?
29:41
But then it's like, I feel like they had this whole plan for a
29:45
big promotional thing like the Russo brothers were posting
29:48
their cryptic messages. They, we, they give this
29:51
absolutely nothing, barely any leaks.
29:54
And then they had the movie theater thing with the trailers,
29:58
and that felt like Disney was like, look, we've been pretty
30:03
cool, you're going to do this for us.
30:05
And they're like mother. And I think they filmed those
30:09
scenes, the trailers, just for that, because all of them don't
30:13
fit into a movie. Honestly, yeah, I think at least
30:16
a couple of them are are just and like Marvel's done that, but
30:20
so many times as I've written at least like 5 or 6 articles
30:24
before, unlike stuff that's in the trailers that isn't in the
30:27
movies and everything. So that's that's no surprise.
30:30
I believe it has. It differs because it's not in
30:33
the official trailer. That's where that lawsuit comes
30:36
in. This is just a teaser.
30:37
They can do whatever they want. A teaser.
30:39
But that X-Men one that is not in a movie.
30:41
You cannot tell me any movie that X-Men scene is in.
30:44
It is not. Yeah, no.
30:47
And, and, and I will say too, the X-Men one I think was
30:52
probably my favorite. Literally that three, that 3
30:55
seconds of Cyclops is the best Cyclops material that we've ever
30:58
gotten. I know.
31:00
And in the the three seconds they fixed so many things that
31:05
they did to us for I just watched all of the X-Men movies
31:08
over and I was just saying they were like, this is bullshit.
31:11
Wait, what are we doing? Like they made Cyclops such a
31:14
little wimp and it makes me so mad because I like.
31:16
This they just did absolutely nothing with him.
31:19
And it's funny, I've actually met James Marsden before, like a
31:21
long time ago at the hotel I was working at in Boston.
31:25
Very nice guy. I'm a big fan of him, but and
31:27
like I'm just so glad he's get like not just Tim, but let the
31:30
rest of the X-Men cast are getting to do this.
31:32
Like like what the X-Men should be in live action.
31:36
Like what Alan Cummings talked about with his with his
31:38
Nightcrawler stuff. And like, yeah.
31:42
And like, and we know what the Russo brothers have done with
31:44
Thor and like, that's been incredible.
31:47
I love the Thor trailer, the Russo brothers with the X-Men as
31:51
much as I'm, I'm actually really excited for Jake Schreyer.
31:54
Like I'm really excited that Jake Schreyer is doing the X-Men
31:56
Movie because I think he's going to do a great job with that.
31:58
But the Russos with the with these legacy X-Men that we know
32:02
and love and they're going to be even better.
32:04
Like signing me up for Doomsday yesterday.
32:07
Agreed. I think the Russos, they are the
32:10
two directors that I would trust in my life.
32:12
I do whatever you want. I trust both of you, both the
32:15
X-Men. I know they're not going to be
32:17
the ones that direct the X-Men Movie, but they are the ones who
32:21
are setting the tone. So I think that's almost more
32:24
important because Jake Schreyer is going to watch Doomsday and
32:27
he's like, well, hey, I can't, I can't have my Cyclops looking
32:32
like a wimp compared to theirs. You know, like, I think it'll
32:36
set a lot of standards because they do.
32:39
These are the people who do care.
32:40
Like you do trust some of these things because it's what they
32:43
do. They they said they'd only come
32:45
back to Marvel if they could do Secret Wars.
32:47
So it shows you they're not doing it for the movie.
32:49
They're doing it for the past fashion and we're gonna, I think
32:52
we're gonna see, I think we're all gonna come out with some
32:54
trauma and I'm really agree with that.
32:57
I'm really happy for that. Me too.
32:59
And and, and think about too, about Jake Schreyer.
33:01
I actually just watched Thunderbolts again yesterday and
33:03
I, I forgot how much I just thoroughly love that movie.
33:06
Like he did such a good job, especially too like because it
33:10
was with a team of people. I'm really looking forward to
33:12
seeing that kind of same team dynamic with with the X-Men
33:15
whenever they're cast and like ready to go and everything.
33:18
But I think the X-Men are gonna be in like the best spot they've
33:21
ever been in. Like with Marvel Studios, as
33:23
excited as I was to get them in the Fox deal in the 1st place, I
33:27
think now that everything's coming together, it's like we
33:30
are in for a good run with the X-Men, especially after X-Men
33:33
97. Especially after X-Men 97.
33:37
My gosh, I watch that show like every two weeks.
33:40
But they there's also, it's not just them working on them.
33:44
They have comic creators who are involved with the X-Men that are
33:49
there to give their support and their advice.
33:52
Like Chris Claremont. Yeah, he's a big one.
33:55
He's got a big old mouth, but he's a big one.
33:57
I remember. What he said about 50 Jensen.
34:01
Dog, why would you do that? Like, why?
34:04
Like she, she was playing it so perfectly.
34:07
She had us all fooled. And then he's like, oh, she'll
34:09
be there. And it's like.
34:11
Oh, I mean, after the after the whole Andrew Garfield thing, I
34:13
don't trust anybody. But I will say she did an
34:17
admirable job of of making us believe she wasn't in it.
34:22
See, I agree, we've all been Garfielded before and I refuse
34:25
to be Garfielded again. But her and Halle Berry looked
34:28
genuinely pissed when they talk about it and like, wait a
34:32
minute, are you not going to be in it?
34:34
And now it's like you guys are good actors, like and.
34:36
Especially with Halle Berry like being next to Chris Hemsworth
34:39
all the time on On that Crime 101 tour and rock and Mark
34:41
Ruffalo. Yeah, hers I would believe.
34:44
She's not going to be in it because she was tricked into
34:47
taking the role of Storm to begin with.
34:49
Right, Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, I, I know they
34:52
would do right by her with, with Marvel, but I, I am curious to
34:56
see where she stands on that because she's one of those ones
34:58
that I might actually believe might not be in it.
35:02
Same. But also, like, I know we all
35:04
love Storm. I know we love Halle Berry, but
35:06
she was not a good storm, guys. And I wish we'd all just agreed
35:08
to that because like I, I'm so protective of Storm.
35:12
She's such a beautiful, amazing, powerful character.
35:16
And it's like, yeah. And it's like Halle Berry's
35:19
very, very pretty and a very good actress, but she wasn't
35:23
Storm. And I think that's OK to admit.
35:26
It's cool. Yeah, yeah, I know.
35:28
I, I, I am very curious to see if they do bring her back.
35:30
I mean, no, she's not. If she comes back, she's not
35:32
going to be back for more than like Doomsday or Secret Wars or
35:34
whatever. But even just that I'm very
35:37
curious to see like how many of the old back spend they're
35:40
bringing back. I mean, just from the people
35:42
that are confirmed, it's a hell of a team.
35:44
Like I'm loving like the the team that they have, especially
35:47
with like Jenny Tatum is Gambit and they're like finally getting
35:50
him with a team and everything. That's going to be fantastic.
35:53
Oh, and even like Mystique is coming through.
35:56
Last time we saw her, she was a human.
35:58
What are you people about to do? Why is she here?
36:01
Because here's the thing, Magneto's also going to be in
36:04
this movie. And last time we saw her, she
36:08
was a human and she was ratting on Magneto and his team and
36:12
selling them out. So it's like, yeah, how many
36:14
internal conflicts are we going to get?
36:16
And it's like I knew it was just so old now.
36:19
That's that's what I'm curious to see is like, how many of
36:22
those old movies actually like, play into Doomsday because like,
36:26
like the versions of the X-Men that we've gotten so far, Like,
36:28
like Professor X was a completely different Professor X
36:31
in Doctor Strange. And like, I mean, obviously
36:35
Deadpool and Wolverine were the same, but that's, you know, it
36:37
was part of the story. And yeah, like, like, I'm really
36:40
curious. And I mean, good for Ian
36:43
McKellen for like, for doing this at freaking 87 years old.
36:46
I mean, that dude is a freaking rock star.
36:48
Between that and him still playing Gandalf, I mean like,
36:53
good for him. It stresses me out what he's
36:55
doing 'cause it's like. It's a lot of work for a guy.
36:58
He's a lot of work and it's like you're just so seasoned.
37:03
You're well seasoned and it's like, I don't want you to
37:06
overwork yourself. And it's, and I'm just like, you
37:09
know, it's Magneto. Yeah.
37:12
He's a part of our culture. Absolutely, and especially after
37:15
all the good Magneto stuff we've gotten recently.
37:17
Like I mean, doomsday is going to be the event of the decade.
37:22
Like I can already tell I can't. I can't wait for I don't know
37:25
how much of the new trailers I'm going to want to watch.
37:27
I know I'm going to have to because it's my job and
37:30
everything, but like I'm I'm not going to like go seeking out
37:34
vendors, doomsday promo material because I want to go in as fresh
37:37
as I possibly can and like experiences with the world.
37:40
It's going to, it's going to be an event.
37:42
I'm going to be actively searching for spoilers and
37:47
everything and I want I I'm going to go in very
37:50
knowledgeable but still like that always makes me more
37:53
excited if the more I know. Yeah, usually if I, if I find
37:56
out about spoilers, either I'll forget about it in the day or
37:59
two and like not even worry about it or like pop up in my
38:01
brain later or I'll just like I'll just get really excited for
38:05
it and you know, it'll help out. Yeah.
38:08
So do you have a theory about Avengers Doomsday?
38:13
Theory about Doomsday. Well, one thought I do have.
38:18
I think the Young Avengers and like young kid characters in
38:21
this movie are going to be important because obviously,
38:24
obviously Franklin Richards is going to be a huge part of this
38:27
movie considering he's probably the most powerful being in the
38:31
multiverse. And also on that note, I want to
38:34
shout out my parents too, for giving me the middle name
38:36
Franklin because they had no idea that that that was going to
38:42
be part of my life like that. My name was going to be Richard
38:45
Franklin and it was going to be important in the comic book
38:47
movie world. It was written in the stars.
38:50
It it, it must have been, honestly.
38:52
I was named after my grandma and my, my, my parents.
38:55
God bless them. They don't.
38:56
They don't know anything about comic movies.
38:59
But but seriously, like I mean, Franklin Rich is going to be
39:03
there. We know love is going to be
39:04
there from Love and Thunder. And I feel like there's going to
39:08
be more come. We might get like the young
39:10
T'challa back. There's rumors about like them
39:13
maybe recasting for an older T'challa coming in.
39:16
I feel like the kids in this movie, however many of them
39:19
there may be, are going to be important in the plot.
39:23
I mean, it's obviously Doom's going after Franklin for his
39:25
power and everything, and he's going to be important with the
39:28
whole multiverse thing, but I feel like he's not going to be
39:31
the only one that's important. I think kids have a big are a
39:37
big deal in this movie, but I don't think it's just because
39:39
they're kids. I think it's doom is going after
39:42
incursions and bringing them to battle world.
39:44
So love never supposed to be Thors daughter.
39:48
She is a Captain America. Steve Rogers never supposed to
39:52
have a kid, but he went back in time and did all that.
39:56
Franklin Richards, he's a little incursion on his own.
39:59
He's just his own little thing. And it's like all of these tiny
40:04
little things like I would not be surprised that if Wiccan was
40:07
in the movie because he's an incursion, he wasn't supposed to
40:11
happen. So that's what I think it'll be
40:13
because you everyone can see that there was a very big
40:18
pattern of children in those trailers, which I still don't
40:23
think. I think only one of them's in
40:25
the movie, like the Wakanda one. That's it.
40:28
But. Yeah, I can.
40:29
I can see that. The meeting between Mbaku and
40:31
Ben. Yeah, that makes sense because
40:34
that's actually call back to the comics because yeah, we all know
40:38
that. And but the other ones, they're
40:42
all about children. They Captain Mayor's kid, Thor's
40:46
child, and then the X-Men, who are the children of the Atom.
40:51
So it's like. Yeah, and Scott Summers, who's,
40:54
you know, one of the most famous parents in the MCU having, you
40:57
know, Gene. If they've had, I mean, we need
41:00
to know where he's at because he could be apparent to many or,
41:05
well, three, but or he could be apparent to none.
41:07
But he's also Charles Xavier calls them his children.
41:11
Yeah, absolutely. So it's like.
41:14
And also, what is Scott so mad about?
41:17
Oh, yeah. I mean, I mean that he, he
41:19
looked like he was ready to kill somebody.
41:22
You know what that means? Someone killed Jean.
41:26
Again. Again, she dies so much and
41:29
that's all right. They all, they all do.
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How many times does Professor X die now?
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Not enough apparently. What is that?
41:39
Yeah. Oh God, I think it's, I don't
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think we're ready. Like I don't think we're going
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to be ready. And I know, I know, like my
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anxiety and excitement is going to kick in as soon as they start
41:50
showing those popcorn buckets. I am done.
41:54
I am. I am throwing hands because I
41:56
remember what you people, not you, what you people did during
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Fantastic Four. And I've been looking for a
42:04
Herbie popcorn bucket on eBay. I checked twice a week at the
42:09
beginning and the end of the week just to see because that's
42:12
how bad I want it. And you bastards hook them the
42:16
first day. There's only one other movie
42:19
where I can't wait to find out what the popcorn bucket is, and
42:21
that's Spaceballs 2 in 2027. Because.
42:24
Because we're going to get Spaceballs the popcorn bucket,
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and it's going to be freaking glorious.
42:29
I didn't. Think about that.
42:32
I forgot that was happening. Oh my gosh.
42:34
Outside of Secret Wars in 27, that's probably the movie I
42:38
can't wait for most. And we don't even know most of
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the movies are coming out in 2027.
42:43
I'm tired. Like we have a, we have a we
42:45
have. 2026 to get through and. We're not even there.
42:49
Like it's smart. It's like we've had, we haven't
42:51
even gotten a full Daredevil trailer.
42:53
Yeah, we've had what, 2-3 big movies come out so far and
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that's about it. I don't even know all the days
43:02
they're like. Yeah, I mean, what project?
43:03
Hell, Mary just came out. Well, that's right.
43:05
Hoppers is this week for Pixar. Yeah, it's almost 100% on Rotten
43:09
Tomatoes. That's.
43:10
Why, Yeah, people love it. Everybody I've seen like is
43:13
really, really looking forward to that one.
43:14
So that one should be fun. I like when the people like the
43:18
movies that are just like, yeah, really like a kid one and it's
43:21
like, yeah, it's really good. That makes me happy.
43:23
I. Don't, I mean, it's Pixar.
43:24
How often have they like, dropped the ball?
43:27
True, true. They do.
43:29
They do good work. They do good work.
43:31
So we have had such a fun conversation.
43:33
I've loved having you on. Obviously open invitation.
43:36
You're always welcome back. Thank you.
43:38
So can you, before we get going, can you tell our listeners where
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they can find you, where you want them to hit you up on?
43:44
Yeah, for sure. You can find me on social media
43:46
just to at Richard Nebbins NEBENS.
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I'm on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, all the places, mostly
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active on Twitter and Instagram a little bit.
43:57
You can find my stuff at the direct and movie web.
44:00
You can actually follow my page on movie web, which is pretty
44:02
fun if you want to go do that. I'm I'm writing a lot there.
44:06
I just passed like 60 schools in like just over a month.
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And three of those weeks I was on vacation.
44:11
So I have been, I have been busy as hell there, Dad.
44:16
I've got a lot of like exclusive quotes out from interviews from
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other people. And hopefully I'll be working my
44:21
way up to getting some of those quotes myself here in the next
44:24
few months or so. But yeah, so just follow me over
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that movie Web and the direct and we've got we've got a hell
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of a year coming up and it's going to be a lot of fun talking
44:34
about all the all the universes we love.
44:37
I completely agree and dearest listeners or watchers, just look
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44:45
absolutely should because his writing is fantastic.
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