Latest / 3 Guys Before The Game / 3 Guys Before The Game - Baylor Recap - Cincinnati Preview (Episode 617)
Transcript
- 0:08Speaker 1: Top of the day to you whatever time it is,
- 0:11Speaker 1: welcome in. It is time for three Guys before the game.
- 0:14Speaker 1: This is episode number six hundred and seventeen. It is
- 0:17Speaker 1: our Baylor recap, our Cincinnati preview. Don't look now, but
- 0:24Speaker 1: the end of the regular season is coming on like
- 0:27Speaker 1: a fast train. I mean like a fast fast train.
- 0:30Speaker 1: Before you say, no, foul call, season is going to
- 0:34Speaker 1: be over. It's gonna be.
- 0:36Speaker 2: That fast or foul called on West Virginia.
- 0:38Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be three Guys before the game with
- 0:42Speaker 1: Hoppey Kerchival in the middle is brought to us by
- 0:44Speaker 1: Jan Dill's attorneys at law. They won't take no for
- 0:48Speaker 1: an answer. They will not take no for an answer.
- 0:52Speaker 1: Would you say no, that's no, no no. Comax Business
- 0:57Speaker 1: Systems keeping West Virginia's business data. If you're an efficient
- 1:01Speaker 1: for twenty five years by Gomart, get a Gomart rewards
- 1:06Speaker 1: card and begin saving on food, fuel, and everything else
- 1:09Speaker 1: inside of a Gomart. Go to gomart dot com for details.
- 1:12Speaker 1: Go to the Gomart app location download the app. You
- 1:15Speaker 1: be in business by Lou Wendel Marine Sales in Saint Albans.
- 1:19Speaker 1: They sell family fund. Visit Lou Wendelmarinsales dot Com. By
- 1:25Speaker 1: Tutors Biscuit World, start your day the Three Guys Way
- 1:28Speaker 1: with a Tutor's biscuit that would also be the Home
- 1:31Speaker 1: Made Way. And by Conley's CPA group providing value beyond
- 1:36Speaker 1: the numbers, Spreads on stats coming up and just a
- 1:39Speaker 1: little bit and the Senator, you goys, some numbers that
- 1:44Speaker 1: probably aren't going to make you feel any better than
- 1:46Speaker 1: you already. Don't feel that fair to stay fair, hey man,
- 1:50Speaker 1: we report you decide what it's good to have everyone
- 1:54Speaker 1: in session here. Good to have the Dean with us
- 1:57Speaker 1: as well. From again from Kerchievill from Kerchuville's studio. Saw
- 2:03Speaker 1: the Dean, didn't we on? That was an all time classic.
- 2:08Speaker 1: My man has not been to a West Virginia home
- 2:11Speaker 1: game in over a decade, but now he has seen
- 2:14Speaker 1: them on the road.
- 2:15Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great to see him in the in the
- 2:17Speaker 2: building there in Waco.
- 2:18Speaker 1: It was a fantastic hobby. You had a good time.
- 2:22Speaker 3: I thought it was a fantastic environment. That Foster Pavilion,
- 2:29Speaker 3: That new facility there is amazing. I mean, every time
- 2:33Speaker 3: you build something new like that, you invest the money,
- 2:35Speaker 3: they figure things out, they get better, and better, and
- 2:37Speaker 3: that's an outstanding facility. And a couple of points about
- 2:42Speaker 3: that which don't make you feel any better.
- 2:44Speaker 4: But that.
- 2:47Speaker 1: They have.
- 2:49Speaker 3: There is always the most extreme level of noise in there,
- 2:54Speaker 3: even if it's not the students or the fans. So
- 2:57Speaker 3: it creates the impression that that it's just constantly bouncing, right,
- 3:02Speaker 3: even if the fans aren't, because they have tremendously loud
- 3:06Speaker 3: music and effects at any dead time.
- 3:09Speaker 4: So it's just it's it's it's it's.
- 3:12Speaker 1: A din of sound. It's a din of sound, non stop.
- 3:16Speaker 3: Sound, non stop sound, which it wears on me, but
- 3:19Speaker 3: I know it plays for others. The folks there, the
- 3:23Speaker 3: security and the ushers, fantastic people, really nice. Couldn't have
- 3:29Speaker 3: been nice, so I can well.
- 3:29Speaker 2: Real quick to Hobby, got a personal welcome and a
- 3:33Speaker 2: personal rundown of anything you made. I mean, it's like
- 3:35Speaker 2: a concierge service. When Kurtchibll walked in, I literally went
- 3:38Speaker 2: up into his seat and talked to him.
- 3:40Speaker 1: Yes, Rich Carlton, Yeah.
- 3:43Speaker 3: So that that was very Uh, that was very nice.
- 3:47Speaker 3: So that part was enjoyed. That part was enjoyable. Sure,
- 3:51Speaker 3: I just think they got it going there now I'll
- 3:53Speaker 3: get to the game if you want to get to observations,
- 3:56Speaker 3: or I can wait whatever you want to.
- 3:58Speaker 1: I mean, you're on a h o oh happy's obvious
- 4:01Speaker 1: observations brought to us by.
- 4:02Speaker 3: No one, yeah, no sponsor for that fantastic game to
- 4:09Speaker 3: be there and watch and experience or listen to on
- 4:13Speaker 3: the radio. I mean, ten lead changes, eleven ties, overtime,
- 4:18Speaker 3: fantastic effort by both teams, first of all.
- 4:22Speaker 4: Second of all, if.
- 4:24Speaker 3: You said going into the game, you'll hold Baylord at
- 4:26Speaker 3: thirty nine percent shooting and twenty three percent from three point,
- 4:29Speaker 3: you okay, yeah, take that, which is what West Virginia did.
- 4:33Speaker 3: But West Virginia didn't shoot grade forty percent and twenty
- 4:36Speaker 3: six percent from three point.
- 4:37Speaker 4: I know, Brad, you'll get into some of those things.
- 4:39Speaker 3: Omeir was tough down in the paint, had a double
- 4:42Speaker 3: double seventeen, and ten o'connie was good for West Virginia
- 4:45Speaker 3: nineteen and seven. Of course, I know you guys are
- 4:49Speaker 3: going to talk about free throws, which you should, and
- 4:51Speaker 3: the stat that always stands out is when the other
- 4:53Speaker 3: team makes more free throws than you attempt and in
- 4:57Speaker 3: this case ten more free throws. They may ten more
- 5:00Speaker 3: free throws than you attempted and shot eighty four percent
- 5:04Speaker 3: from the free throw line. Normally they shoot seventy five percent.
- 5:07Speaker 3: And you don't do you don't get to the line
- 5:08Speaker 3: and don't shoot real well sixty five percent. Normally you
- 5:10Speaker 3: shoot seventy three percent. So that was I think that
- 5:14Speaker 3: was the biggest story of the game. Finally, my final
- 5:19Speaker 3: obvious observation is that is that I don't know when
- 5:24Speaker 3: I have been higher on a team that's lost six
- 5:27Speaker 3: of eight. This team gives you supreme effort, plays hard,
- 5:33Speaker 3: digs down, fights every possession and battles. They just come
- 5:39Speaker 3: up a little short for variety of reasons. And we've
- 5:42Speaker 3: talked about this almost all for the last month. There's
- 5:44Speaker 3: just always you're just a little bit short. You know,
- 5:46Speaker 3: you got some pieces missing. But man, they give you
- 5:48Speaker 3: supreme effort. It's enjoyable basketball, and it's I'm very up
- 5:54Speaker 3: on a team that's lost six of eight.
- 5:57Speaker 2: That's a good last point.
- 5:58Speaker 1: Way to say that, excellent point. Yeah, yeah, that's an
- 6:00Speaker 1: excellent point.
- 6:01Speaker 2: I agree.
- 6:03Speaker 1: This late in the season, you do have an opinion
- 6:07Speaker 1: of your team. And despite the fact that this team,
- 6:11Speaker 1: as you said, now it's up to six out of
- 6:13Speaker 1: their last eight. I don't know about I can't speak
- 6:16Speaker 1: for the masses. I still really like this team. This
- 6:18Speaker 1: is one of my more favorite teams than I've ever
- 6:21Speaker 1: been involved with. Now that might sound like weird as heck, Like,
- 6:24Speaker 1: what are you talking about? This is one of my
- 6:26Speaker 1: favorite teams because I love blue collar toughness. I love
- 6:31Speaker 1: you're not supposed to be doing what you're doing, and
- 6:33Speaker 1: they've been doing it from the opening tip of the season.
- 6:36Speaker 2: Also impressed with demeanor, Tony. This is a bunch of
- 6:39Speaker 2: good guys. They are easy and fun to be around.
- 6:41Speaker 2: There's no pouting or moping after games. And listen, these
- 6:44Speaker 2: last two have been really difficult. Those are NCAA tournament
- 6:48Speaker 2: type games where every possession matters, high level basketball both ways. Unfortunately,
- 6:53Speaker 2: West Virginia's needed about one play more in each of
- 6:57Speaker 2: the two games, and we're sitting here, guys high stepping
- 6:59Speaker 2: over the I mean, think about that. That's why, Hop,
- 7:02Speaker 2: I think your points really well taken. And I agree
- 7:04Speaker 2: with that, and it's why I'm not down on this team,
- 7:06Speaker 2: because you're literally two plays away over the last two
- 7:09Speaker 2: games from staring at eight conference wins. A win and
- 7:12Speaker 2: an unbelievably difficult place to play at Baylor, as you
- 7:15Speaker 2: just mentioned. So this team's still battling and what it
- 7:18Speaker 2: needs is what it wants is still in front of
- 7:20Speaker 2: it in terms of an nca tournament bit. I know
- 7:22Speaker 2: we're getting down to the brass tacks here. You've got
- 7:24Speaker 2: to get some wins. I get it. But this last week,
- 7:26Speaker 2: this has been a tough week because you are right
- 7:29Speaker 2: there into really difficult games one on tough spot on
- 7:32Speaker 2: the road, and you didn't get the one play you
- 7:33Speaker 2: needed to just get you over the hump.
- 7:36Speaker 3: Well, and what normally this time of year, if you
- 7:40Speaker 3: lose six of eight, you're going, Okay, they're in the tank.
- 7:43Speaker 3: It's over. You're limping to the end. And in no
- 7:46Speaker 3: way do you feel like that. It's the antithesis of that.
- 7:51Speaker 3: And there's still a lot of joy left in this
- 7:53Speaker 3: team and a lot of joy left and watching and
- 7:55Speaker 3: listening watching this basketball team.
- 7:57Speaker 2: Yeah, this real quick. This isn't spreads on stats, because
- 8:00Speaker 2: believe me, you're gonna need to buckle in for spreads
- 8:02Speaker 2: on stats. I'm gonna give you a ton of numbers.
- 8:03Speaker 2: But here's that, here's what what do you mean you
- 8:04Speaker 2: got I just got a lot of stuff. There's a
- 8:06Speaker 2: lot of numbers coming out of this game, so just
- 8:09Speaker 2: settle in here. It's not coming yet, but here's one
- 8:11Speaker 2: hopy to your point. We talk about NCA tournament. We're
- 8:13Speaker 2: gonna keep talking about this until you've exhausted all options
- 8:16Speaker 2: to get into this. But we'll go to our friends
- 8:18Speaker 2: at bracketmatrix dot com and West Virginia moved one tenth
- 8:22Speaker 2: of a point down after that lost to Baylor. That
- 8:25Speaker 2: tells you how insignificant it was in terms of the
- 8:27Speaker 2: grand scheme of things. You're still holding in now a
- 8:30Speaker 2: ten seed, but you're a nine point six y' eight
- 8:32Speaker 2: average on all of these brackets. Of the eighty some
- 8:35Speaker 2: brackets they have none of them have you out of
- 8:37Speaker 2: the tournament field. One has you as low as a twelve,
- 8:40Speaker 2: and a bunch have you at nine. So still in
- 8:43Speaker 2: front of you, your margin for eric continues to get thinner.
- 8:46Speaker 2: You've got to get going with some wins, but you're
- 8:48Speaker 2: still alive at this point as we sit here today
- 8:50Speaker 2: on Monday, feb seventeen.
- 8:51Speaker 1: All right, spreads on stats coming up in just a
- 8:53Speaker 1: little bit. But this reminder that three guys before the
- 8:55Speaker 1: game is brought to us by fantastic folks at lou
- 8:58Speaker 1: Wendell Marine said. Now, you might think after a rather
- 9:03Speaker 1: cold wind tree weekend, the last thing you're thinking about
- 9:06Speaker 1: is boating. That's not the case.
- 9:08Speaker 2: You know, the first thing I'm thinking about is boating.
- 9:10Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, because I just looked at the
- 9:12Speaker 1: old sun dial. It's going to the sunset is like
- 9:15Speaker 1: getting close to like six o'clock now, which means we've
- 9:18Speaker 1: got forward momentum, which means it's only a matter of
- 9:21Speaker 1: time before you start seeing people out on water in
- 9:27Speaker 1: those G three John boats that they sell. I mean,
- 9:29Speaker 1: they're absolutely classic craft for fishermen. Whatever you like to
- 9:36Speaker 1: do on the water, those are really super neat. It's
- 9:39Speaker 1: a G three John boats. They're available at lou Wendel
- 9:41Speaker 1: Marine Sales. And if you want something more recreational.
- 9:44Speaker 2: Quick, real quick, we determine a year or so you
- 9:46Speaker 2: can you can hunt off that if you want it.
- 9:48Speaker 1: Sure you could, there's no question to fish.
- 9:50Speaker 2: But you can also hunt like there's woods behind that
- 9:52Speaker 2: guy right there, like he can he can turn and
- 9:54Speaker 2: hunt there if you want.
- 9:54Speaker 1: We could absolutely do that, or just go across water
- 9:57Speaker 1: and then walk on to do some hunting, or you
- 9:59Speaker 1: could just bring us spear with you, just start spearing stuff.
- 10:02Speaker 2: They just sit right there and let it go.
- 10:03Speaker 1: Yeah. And then if you're looking for something more recreational,
- 10:06Speaker 1: they just happen to be the largest and single biggest
- 10:10Speaker 1: pontoon boat dealer in the state of West Virginia. They've
- 10:13Speaker 1: been doing that for half a century. So if it's
- 10:15Speaker 1: a pontoon you might be looking for, visit lou wendellmarnesales
- 10:19Speaker 1: dot com.
- 10:19Speaker 2: Look at that recliner seat right in the front, hoppy,
- 10:21Speaker 2: not long, and I'm gonna be sitting right in one
- 10:22Speaker 2: of those reclined things just you will.
- 10:25Speaker 4: Absolutely got a.
- 10:26Speaker 1: Call, by the way, yesterday from a listener. Got a
- 10:29Speaker 1: rare Sunday call from a listener in Texas. He says,
- 10:31Speaker 1: I keep hearing you guys talk about these Tutors Biscuits.
- 10:35Speaker 1: Are there any in Texas?
- 10:37Speaker 2: Did you say, no, go get a franchise?
- 10:39Speaker 1: I said, franchise availability is right there. They do have
- 10:42Speaker 1: over seventy locations. We do know that there's one in Florida.
- 10:45Speaker 1: Majority of them are here in West Virginia. But there
- 10:47Speaker 1: are literally franchise opportunities if by some chance you've got
- 10:50Speaker 1: that entrepreneurial bug, you can get yourself a Tutor's Biscuit franchise.
- 10:56Speaker 1: And if you're doing it around here, your brand equity
- 10:58Speaker 1: is already built in your top of They know you
- 11:01Speaker 1: got to start your day the homemade way with a
- 11:03Speaker 1: Tutor's biscuit. And right now, if you do walk in,
- 11:05Speaker 1: you got yourself a little deal as well. You buy
- 11:07Speaker 1: one of these four bad boys, either the Dotty, the
- 11:11Speaker 1: sausage if you get a hash brown, or the Peppy,
- 11:13Speaker 1: and you get the second one for just four quarters
- 11:16Speaker 1: or one dollar at Tutor's Biscuit World.
- 11:19Speaker 2: I could eat one right now, Hoppy, no surprise, I'm hungry.
- 11:21Speaker 2: I could eat that.
- 11:23Speaker 4: Your food management continues to be poor.
- 11:25Speaker 3: I get a franchise in Texas, give BUCkies.
- 11:27Speaker 4: A run for their money.
- 11:28Speaker 1: Yeah, I was, by the way, How was your food
- 11:30Speaker 1: in Waco? You ate? Did you eat anything there?
- 11:32Speaker 4: Waco is a pretty cool town.
- 11:33Speaker 1: I like it.
- 11:34Speaker 4: Yeah, I like Waco.
- 11:36Speaker 3: And and you know what the another thing they do,
- 11:38Speaker 3: Prisoner of the Moment guy is they have all this
- 11:40Speaker 3: free parking around the arena.
- 11:43Speaker 1: Parking.
- 11:44Speaker 2: Well, he's a big parking guy. He's still killing the
- 11:46Speaker 2: commander stadium there for that Depoco.
- 11:48Speaker 4: Gosh, don't get me started.
- 11:50Speaker 2: Yeah, he got like nine shows out of that. He's
- 11:55Speaker 2: he not retired. He'd get three out of the free
- 11:57Speaker 2: parking and wake.
- 11:58Speaker 1: He would have a look back at the commander's parking situation.
- 12:01Speaker 1: He would have had a retrospective. All right, you're ready
- 12:05Speaker 1: to do this.
- 12:05Speaker 2: Yeah, well let's go because I you say, okay, let's
- 12:07Speaker 2: just do this. We got shig numbers.
- 12:08Speaker 1: All right, here we go.
- 12:09Speaker 4: I'll just go right to the numbers.
- 12:11Speaker 1: Right as well. The Senator is predicting, he's got numbers.
- 12:16Speaker 1: They're gonna make your head hurt even more. Based on
- 12:18Speaker 1: what happened this weekend, spreads on status brought to us
- 12:21Speaker 1: by Condley's CPA Group Value Beyond Numbers, Complete Services, Public
- 12:25Speaker 1: accounting and consultation serving clients in all fifty five West
- 12:29Speaker 1: Virginia county surrounding states. Forty year anniversary going on right now.
- 12:33Speaker 1: They're local people. They've been in business for a long
- 12:35Speaker 1: time because they're successful at what they do. If you
- 12:37Speaker 1: need help outsourcing the county CFO services, they got you.
- 12:42Speaker 1: It's Conley's CPA Group. Were you surprised when you started
- 12:47Speaker 1: doing the uh? The down load.
- 12:49Speaker 2: No, no, because what I kept hearing in my head
- 12:52Speaker 2: is you during the broadcast saying, you know, this is
- 12:56Speaker 2: gonna be one of those we talk about. You're gonna
- 12:58Speaker 2: look back at the numbers and it's gonna make you
- 12:59Speaker 2: more or mad than you are right now. Heard it
- 13:02Speaker 2: like a soundtrack as I was putting all this together.
- 13:05Speaker 2: Accurate statement by you. Here we go. We're going to
- 13:08Speaker 2: save free throws for just a second, because that might
- 13:10Speaker 2: be a whole separate podcast in and of itself. Let's
- 13:13Speaker 2: just talk about something kind of where Hoppy was going here.
- 13:15Speaker 2: When you talk about this team and what a joy
- 13:19Speaker 2: it is to watch and how well prepared it is,
- 13:21Speaker 2: and I'm going to give you a story on that
- 13:23Speaker 2: really illustrates and encapsulates this whole season since June, Hopy,
- 13:28Speaker 2: we've been talking about. Listen, this team is going to
- 13:30Speaker 2: go in there as prepared as any in America. You
- 13:33Speaker 2: might miss some shots, you might not get the calls,
- 13:35Speaker 2: it might cost you some games, but there will not
- 13:38Speaker 2: be a team as prepared as this team. I'm going
- 13:39Speaker 2: to give you one story that came out this weekend
- 13:41Speaker 2: that illustrated that to a team. We'll get to that
- 13:44Speaker 2: But first, let's look at what the game plan was
- 13:46Speaker 2: and how West Virginia did in this game. First and foremost,
- 13:48Speaker 2: and I apologize for anybody listening on one point five.
- 13:51Speaker 2: You might want to dial back to one for just
- 13:53Speaker 2: a second, because I'm a hard listen on one to
- 13:55Speaker 2: five anyway, and I'm going to start rolling. So here
- 13:57Speaker 2: we go, first and foremost, make them guard this on
- 13:59Speaker 2: the offensive end. Hop the idea was to make them
- 14:02Speaker 2: guard and ultimately they'd give you open shots that they
- 14:05Speaker 2: wouldn't want to guard you for twenty five or the
- 14:07Speaker 2: thirty seconds of the shot clock. How about this number, guys,
- 14:10Speaker 2: fifteen unguarded catching shoots ties the most you've had in
- 14:15Speaker 2: Big twelve play this season. You had fifteen open catching shoots.
- 14:20Speaker 2: You scored twenty one points off of those, which is
- 14:22Speaker 2: the most you've had in Big twelve play. But it
- 14:26Speaker 2: was just your sixth best points per possession on unguarded
- 14:31Speaker 2: So again, you got a lot of them, and you
- 14:33Speaker 2: scored a lot of points on it, but you probably
- 14:35Speaker 2: needed another one, maybe two, just a little more efficient.
- 14:39Speaker 2: And we're high stepping with a win today, so close.
- 14:42Speaker 2: Great game plan and you almost had the execution. You
- 14:45Speaker 2: just needed another one or two.
- 14:46Speaker 1: So in basketball coaching lingo, you could go with the
- 14:48Speaker 1: two fold. You could go with got looks, or you
- 14:51Speaker 1: could or you could go with got.
- 14:53Speaker 2: Shots and go with gotta make shots.
- 14:55Speaker 1: Oh yeah, third one, right, that's an obvious but you
- 14:58Speaker 1: got shots all right. Number fifteen on guard.
- 15:00Speaker 2: Yeah, fifteen on guarded. And it felt it felt like eighty.
- 15:03Speaker 2: I mean, West Virginia was carving up that one to
- 15:05Speaker 2: three to one, to the point they had to get
- 15:07Speaker 2: out of it in the second half. They did it
- 15:09Speaker 2: almost exclusively in the first had to get out of
- 15:11Speaker 2: it in the second half because West Virginia was wearing
- 15:13Speaker 2: them out. It was right exactly what you wanted to
- 15:16Speaker 2: do offensively from a make them guard. They won't want
- 15:18Speaker 2: to guard you the whole time hobby. They did not,
- 15:20Speaker 2: and you got the looks. That's one. Number two. You
- 15:22Speaker 2: wanted to control the pace of the game. You had
- 15:24Speaker 2: to slow their transition because they want to run and
- 15:27Speaker 2: dive at the rim. And on your end, you wanted
- 15:29Speaker 2: to make them work again, make them guard that whole
- 15:32Speaker 2: shot clock. Season high in points in the last four
- 15:36Speaker 2: seconds of the shot clock for West Virginia, nineteen points
- 15:40Speaker 2: came in the final four seconds of the clock. You
- 15:43Speaker 2: talk about just saying, you know what, here, what we're
- 15:45Speaker 2: going to do. We're going to hold the ball, You're
- 15:47Speaker 2: not going to be able to stop us, and we're
- 15:48Speaker 2: going to score as the clock's running out. Nineteen points
- 15:51Speaker 2: in the final four seconds. So you talk about how
- 15:53Speaker 2: do you beat Baylor. Okay, here's what we need to do.
- 15:55Speaker 2: Run clock, will get open shots, and we'll use the
- 15:58Speaker 2: clock to limit their possessions. My god, you did it perfectly, perfectly.
- 16:03Speaker 2: Nineteen point season high in last four seconds of the clock.
- 16:06Speaker 2: By the way, you're three and two when you score
- 16:08Speaker 2: double figures in the final four seconds of the shot clock,
- 16:11Speaker 2: which means you controlled the pace. You really should be
- 16:13Speaker 2: four and one, right, that should have been a win
- 16:15Speaker 2: on Saturday. That's a real key. West Virginia executed it perfectly.
- 16:19Speaker 2: How about defensively, you wanted to defend their dribble drive
- 16:23Speaker 2: then recover to close out on threes. That's a big ass, guys.
- 16:27Speaker 2: This is an elite defensive team. It's top fifteen in
- 16:31Speaker 2: one metric, it's top twelve and another. It is an
- 16:33Speaker 2: elite defensive team West Virginia. But that's a big ask.
- 16:36Speaker 2: Stay in front of five guys that want to put
- 16:38Speaker 2: their head down and drive right at you. But when
- 16:40Speaker 2: they do and then kick it, you got to rotate
- 16:42Speaker 2: and or get out and close out. How'd you do, Hopy,
- 16:45Speaker 2: You mentioned some of these. You held Baylor to thirty
- 16:47Speaker 2: nine percent field goal percentage, that's normally a win. Held
- 16:50Speaker 2: him to twenty two percent from three, that's a win.
- 16:54Speaker 2: You stop dribble drive and you contested threes. You did
- 16:56Speaker 2: it exactly the way you wanted to do it. You
- 16:58Speaker 2: held a potential lot of in VJ. Edgecombe to seven points,
- 17:02Speaker 2: took him straight out of the game. Took a lottery pick,
- 17:05Speaker 2: and someone will tell you what might be in the
- 17:06Speaker 2: NBA next year. Good luck with the Hornets. You're gonna
- 17:08Speaker 2: sit over there right now and you're not going to
- 17:10Speaker 2: be a factor. Was a non factor. Made a couple
- 17:12Speaker 2: big boy plays that you went that's why the NBA
- 17:15Speaker 2: is looking at him. But for the most part, you
- 17:17Speaker 2: controlled him. Baylor had eighteen catch and shoot jumpers on
- 17:22Speaker 2: the game. They had eighteen?
- 17:24Speaker 1: How many of them were uncovered?
- 17:25Speaker 2: Thank you for asking that two were on guarded. Two
- 17:31Speaker 2: open looks for a team that drove to the basket
- 17:34Speaker 2: on you a lot. You forced them to shoot from
- 17:37Speaker 2: the I mean, it was just a great defensive game
- 17:40Speaker 2: plan and an execution of that game plan by the guys.
- 17:43Speaker 2: They did just a tremendous job keep them off the
- 17:46Speaker 2: offensive glass. That was a top twenty five offensive rebounding team.
- 17:49Speaker 2: Hoppy they always are under Scott Drew. It's one of
- 17:52Speaker 2: the best offensive rebounding teams in the country. They get
- 17:55Speaker 2: thirty five percent of their offensive rebounds on the season,
- 17:57Speaker 2: thirty five percent of the shots that are available for
- 18:00Speaker 2: offensive rebounds they get. They got twenty four percent against
- 18:03Speaker 2: West Virginia, but it's even better numbers than that. They
- 18:05Speaker 2: only had two second chance points on the day. Two
- 18:10Speaker 2: second chance points, so you were stopping them and forcing
- 18:14Speaker 2: tough shots. And then the second part of that is
- 18:16Speaker 2: go get the ball so they can't get a second
- 18:18Speaker 2: two secondhandspot. To your point, I got more mad as
- 18:22Speaker 2: I kept going down this. You had a perfect plan
- 18:25Speaker 2: and you executed it, and you couldn't walk out of
- 18:27Speaker 2: there with a win. Bummer, All right? Another one. West
- 18:31Speaker 2: Virginia had an eleven zero run in the game, Pervanmia
- 18:35Speaker 2: dot com. If you have a ten to zero or
- 18:38Speaker 2: better run in a game, you win eighty one percent
- 18:42Speaker 2: of the time Baylor had none, you had, it should
- 18:45Speaker 2: have been a win. Here's the one number I didn't
- 18:48Speaker 2: like as West virgin Well, the free throws, but I'm
- 18:50Speaker 2: getting to that. Here's the other number outside of free
- 18:51Speaker 2: throws that I didn't like. As we moved throughout the game, Tony,
- 18:54Speaker 2: we talked about this. Fifty one percent of West Virginia's
- 18:57Speaker 2: points came in the paint. We talked on Thursday Day's episode.
- 19:00Speaker 2: This is reversal what you would think normally, that's good,
- 19:03Speaker 2: getting close, score easy buckets. We talked on Thursday this
- 19:06Speaker 2: was a number to watch. When West Virginia loses, it
- 19:09Speaker 2: scores forty eight percent of its points in the paint.
- 19:12Speaker 2: So right on with this number. When it wins, it
- 19:14Speaker 2: only gets thirty five percent of its points in the paint,
- 19:18Speaker 2: usually driven by made three pointers. And again, West Virginia
- 19:21Speaker 2: was probably just one or two threes away from this.
- 19:25Speaker 2: And one last note, probably should have been just a
- 19:28Speaker 2: tad more than fifty one percent of your points in
- 19:30Speaker 2: the paint. Except for the giant lake that opened up
- 19:33Speaker 2: underneath the basket on the floor, oh Man, that had
- 19:36Speaker 2: a Loumett Wendel boat sitting in it and prevented Tobyocannie
- 19:40Speaker 2: from hammering a dunk. I've been doing this a lot
- 19:42Speaker 2: of time. Long time you've been doing a long time.
- 19:44Speaker 2: We're seventy five years combined in this. I can't remember
- 19:48Speaker 2: a more wide open shot where a guy's foot goes
- 19:51Speaker 2: completely out from under him as he's about ready to
- 19:53Speaker 2: hammer it. I was incredulous that. I don't know how
- 19:57Speaker 2: there can be that much moisture right in the one
- 19:59Speaker 2: spot he steps on. Yep, incredulous. So of the things
- 20:03Speaker 2: that you looked and went, oh my, are you kidding me?
- 20:05Speaker 2: That's why at the time there was so much.
- 20:06Speaker 1: Water there underneath that basket. They brought in a lou
- 20:10Speaker 1: Wendel pontoon to just bring the cleaning crew and to
- 20:13Speaker 1: get it off the floor. That's how much one of
- 20:15Speaker 1: those three boats was right came underneath the basket. I've
- 20:18Speaker 1: never seen it, but when you think about it, Oh,
- 20:20Speaker 1: Connie's gonna go out. Mean, that's how you blow a knee.
- 20:24Speaker 1: That's exactly how you blow a knee. You start to go,
- 20:27Speaker 1: it hyper extends and then you popped yourself. You're really
- 20:30Speaker 1: really lucky, but it happens. You know, that's where a
- 20:33Speaker 1: lot of moisture was. Timeouts happened, water bottles get used,
- 20:36Speaker 1: water gets on the floor, and just a crushure. That
- 20:39Speaker 1: what's God.
- 20:40Speaker 2: Because Toby was awesome. Toby at nineteen point seven rebounds,
- 20:43Speaker 2: three assists, two blocks three big three should have finished
- 20:46Speaker 2: with twenty one. All right, one last thing on the preparation, Hop,
- 20:49Speaker 2: you'll love this story. And then I'm gonna get into
- 20:51Speaker 2: free throws and then we're gonna settle in because'm gonna
- 20:53Speaker 2: I'm gonna hit you with some numbers. But here here's
- 20:55Speaker 2: the preparation part. Hop. In the walk through in the
- 20:58Speaker 2: morning in the hotel ball room, they went through all
- 21:01Speaker 2: their stuff, went through Baylor stuff. Here's what they're gonna do,
- 21:04Speaker 2: went through Baylor's out of bounds, Baylor's sde out of bounds.
- 21:06Speaker 2: Here's what they're gonna do. Went through West Virginia. Here's
- 21:08Speaker 2: what we're gonna do. Here's how they're gonna counter. Yeah,
- 21:09Speaker 2: here's how we're gonna counter their counter. Then one of
- 21:11Speaker 2: the last things that go through baseline out of bounds
- 21:14Speaker 2: place for West Virginia, here's what we're gonna run. Here's
- 21:15Speaker 2: how they're gonna defend us. Then he went to Darren
- 21:17Speaker 2: went to a side out of bounds SLOB, side out
- 21:20Speaker 2: of abound SLOB as it's called sideline out of bounds
- 21:23Speaker 2: HOB and Darren says this. Darren says, here, guys, here's
- 21:27Speaker 2: what we're gonna run through. One more thing, side out
- 21:30Speaker 2: of bounds three seconds or less on the clock. Here's
- 21:33Speaker 2: what we're gonna run And I'm not gonna tell you
- 21:35Speaker 2: exactly what they designed up or what they did it,
- 21:37Speaker 2: but then had some real nuance within there. You're gonna
- 21:40Speaker 2: go here and you've got to do this to draw this,
- 21:42Speaker 2: and you're gonna go over here, and this is what's
- 21:43Speaker 2: gonna happen when you go here and you go here,
- 21:45Speaker 2: They're gonna do this, and then we're gonna do this,
- 21:47Speaker 2: and it's gonna be a wide open three for Javon Small.
- 21:50Speaker 2: I I about came out of my seat, didn't I.
- 21:53Speaker 2: In the first half there like I like I think,
- 21:55Speaker 2: I I mean, I interrupt you a lot. I almost
- 21:57Speaker 2: just stepped right over and said, okay, stop, I got this.
- 22:00Speaker 2: Three seconds remaining in the first half, West Virginia's side
- 22:03Speaker 2: out of bounds they literally worked on that exact moment
- 22:06Speaker 2: in the morning hop and there it was not with
- 22:09Speaker 2: five seconds or with two seconds or with one and
- 22:11Speaker 2: a half. The exact scenario he said, three seconds on
- 22:14Speaker 2: the clock side out of bound. Here's what we're gonna run,
- 22:16Speaker 2: and we're gonna get an open three for Javon. Guess
- 22:17Speaker 2: what They got an open three for Javon. And the
- 22:20Speaker 2: damn thing went exactly like he said it was gonna get.
- 22:23Speaker 2: Didn't drop it, It didn't get the shot to fall.
- 22:25Speaker 2: But you talk about this group being prepared, that was
- 22:28Speaker 2: like a double exclamation point on you want to cover
- 22:30Speaker 2: every situation? We got you.
- 22:31Speaker 4: Yeah, runs good stuff.
- 22:33Speaker 1: Yeah, run runs good stuff. All right, Gotta make shots?
- 22:38Speaker 4: Yeah, gotta make shots.
- 22:39Speaker 2: I can I take a drink? Care before we dive
- 22:40Speaker 2: incauseond I'm gonna get all of dry mouth on this
- 22:42Speaker 2: next part.
- 22:43Speaker 1: Yeah. While you do that, let me just remind our
- 22:45Speaker 1: folks that the uh we might have to get by
- 22:48Speaker 1: the time Brad's done talking about the free throw disparity
- 22:53Speaker 1: that West Virginia has been enduring, we might have to
- 22:56Speaker 1: get jail. Jan Dill's attorneys at law, we might have
- 22:58Speaker 1: to file some kind of a Can we do that?
- 23:00Speaker 1: I mean, this is what I junction. I don't know
- 23:04Speaker 1: if JAN handles that, but this is what I do know.
- 23:06Speaker 1: One of their areas of specialty is securing military veterans
- 23:11Speaker 1: their benefits do from the Department of Veterans Affairs, So
- 23:16Speaker 1: a couple of different things. If you are a military vet,
- 23:20Speaker 1: someone in your family, someone that you know, and you
- 23:22Speaker 1: suffer from PTSD, back pain, hearing loss, or knee injuries,
- 23:27Speaker 1: their primary practice is to represent you and get the
- 23:31Speaker 1: help and the benefits that you have not only earned,
- 23:34Speaker 1: but that you deserve. And they have a crew of
- 23:39Speaker 1: folks that are specific to this area. As you might imagine,
- 23:43Speaker 1: when it comes to working with the government, you need
- 23:47Speaker 1: to know all of the bureaucracy that goes along with it,
- 23:50Speaker 1: and they have that experience. Their lawyers are specifically trained
- 23:56Speaker 1: in this world and they have helped hundreds of veterans
- 23:58Speaker 1: get access to via benefits that they deserve. So you
- 24:02Speaker 1: don't pay a red cent. They get paid when you win.
- 24:06Speaker 1: They get paid when you win. So a couple of things.
- 24:09Speaker 1: If you or someone you know needs help dealing with
- 24:12Speaker 1: the Department of Veterans Affairs a military veteran, you can
- 24:16Speaker 1: call one eight seven seven veteran. That's one eight seven
- 24:20Speaker 1: seven veteran. Or visit Jandills dot com ja n d
- 24:25Speaker 1: ils dot com. And again that's not specific to West Virginia.
- 24:29Speaker 1: That's literally all over the nation, one of the biggest
- 24:33Speaker 1: in the nation dealing specifically with this area. And they've
- 24:37Speaker 1: got you covered, all right. Make me feel sick with
- 24:39Speaker 1: free throws?
- 24:40Speaker 2: Okay, here we go. Let's talk first with free throw
- 24:44Speaker 2: attempt rate, which you hear me talk a lot about.
- 24:47Speaker 2: That just kind of starts to eliminate a little bit
- 24:48Speaker 2: of just the raw numbers of free throw attemps, although
- 24:51Speaker 2: I've got some of those two. So free throw attempt
- 24:52Speaker 2: rate your number of free throw attemps divided by your
- 24:54Speaker 2: field goal attempts. It tells you where you're getting most
- 24:57Speaker 2: of your shots within any given game. Baylor came into
- 25:00Speaker 2: this game hoppy bottom one hundred teams nationally in free
- 25:04Speaker 2: throw attempt rate. They don't get to the line very often.
- 25:07Speaker 2: Thirty percent free throw attempt rate, so they don't get
- 25:09Speaker 2: the line very often. Fifty nine percent free throw attempt
- 25:13Speaker 2: rate in that game, almost double what it normally is.
- 25:15Speaker 2: For context, forty nine point seven leads the nation on
- 25:21Speaker 2: the season, so well above what the national leader in
- 25:24Speaker 2: that category gets, so an unusual day for Baylor at
- 25:28Speaker 2: the line. They had a season high in makes. They
- 25:30Speaker 2: had their second most free throw attempts in a game
- 25:33Speaker 2: and their most in Big Twelve play. They only have
- 25:37Speaker 2: one game in Big twelve play with more than twenty
- 25:38Speaker 2: four free throw attempts. Before the game against West Virginia.
- 25:42Speaker 2: It was the second highest free throw attempt rate by
- 25:44Speaker 2: a do WVU opponent this season. The highest was Colorado
- 25:48Speaker 2: at that sixty two and a half. Baylor opponents normally,
- 25:53Speaker 2: so you talk about Baylor on the other side of things,
- 25:55Speaker 2: Baylor's opponents normally get thirty five percent of their points
- 25:58Speaker 2: from the free throw line. West Virginia only got fifteen
- 26:02Speaker 2: percent of its points from the line, and West Virginia
- 26:05Speaker 2: was about right on average for its three point attempt rates.
- 26:07Speaker 2: So you can't say that West Virginia was just bombing
- 26:09Speaker 2: threes away. It was right on their average. Baylor usually
- 26:12Speaker 2: gives up thirty five percent of its opponent's points at
- 26:14Speaker 2: the line. West Virginie was just fifteen percent of its points.
- 26:18Speaker 2: Let's look at some other specific numbers Baylor. You might say,
- 26:23Speaker 2: we talked so much about Baylor wanted to drive to
- 26:25Speaker 2: the basket, right, So you look at that and go, okay,
- 26:28Speaker 2: maybe there could have been a free throw disparity there
- 26:30Speaker 2: because a style of play. They were going to the basket.
- 26:33Speaker 2: That's what they want to do. They want to drive
- 26:35Speaker 2: to the basket, and they probably got a lot of
- 26:37Speaker 2: shots at the rim where fouls normally occur. So that's
- 26:39Speaker 2: probably what you're saying right now as you listen that
- 26:41Speaker 2: Baylor Hoppy probably went to the basket more often than
- 26:44Speaker 2: West Virginia, probably had more shots at the rim, therefore
- 26:47Speaker 2: getting more free throws.
- 26:49Speaker 1: That's what you think.
- 26:49Speaker 4: You would say that, that's.
- 26:50Speaker 2: What you would think. Baylor took twenty two shots at
- 26:53Speaker 2: the rim or in the paint and shot thirty two
- 26:57Speaker 2: free throws. West Virginia took twenty seven shots at the
- 27:02Speaker 2: rim or in the paint and had seventeen free throws.
- 27:07Speaker 2: Baylor had eight shots at the rim, which is sixteen
- 27:10Speaker 2: percent below the national average for shots at the rim,
- 27:13Speaker 2: and went to the line thirty two times. Bay here,
- 27:20Speaker 2: if you haven't listened to anything else, this is one
- 27:22Speaker 2: that'll make you most crazy.
- 27:24Speaker 1: I'm pretty good right now.
- 27:26Speaker 2: Baylor did not make a single field goal in overtime.
- 27:31Speaker 2: In winning the game, they made zero field goals in overtime,
- 27:36Speaker 2: zero of three from the floor. They scored all nine
- 27:39Speaker 2: of their points from the free throw line. West Virginia
- 27:43Speaker 2: was two of nine from the field in overtime Baylor
- 27:46Speaker 2: zero of three. Every point scored came at the line.
- 27:54Speaker 2: Opponents of West Virginia over the last seven games have
- 27:59Speaker 2: two point one one four more points at the free
- 28:01Speaker 2: throw line. They've doubled up West Virginia at the line
- 28:04Speaker 2: two point one four more times. I'll get to some
- 28:07Speaker 2: other numbers over the last few games, but here's one
- 28:10Speaker 2: that really jumps out. West Virginia is just sixty one
- 28:12Speaker 2: percent from the free throw line over the last seven games.
- 28:15Speaker 2: For what has been a good free throw shooting team,
- 28:17Speaker 2: its opponents and some of its opponents have been the
- 28:20Speaker 2: worst free throw shooting teams in America. Its opponents are
- 28:23Speaker 2: eighty one percent from the free throw line over the
- 28:26Speaker 2: last seven games. So not only are they getting there
- 28:28Speaker 2: at an exorbitant rate, they're actually making them. So credit
- 28:31Speaker 2: to those teams for making them. That's nothing other than
- 28:33Speaker 2: guys just making shots, but that's incredible. You're getting a
- 28:36Speaker 2: ton and then you're making a ton. Here's one that
- 28:39Speaker 2: really jumped to me. Langston Love for Baylor had missed
- 28:43Speaker 2: a bunch of games as coming back from injury, again
- 28:46Speaker 2: one of their very good players. Six of his eight
- 28:49Speaker 2: field goal attempts were threes, yet he shot twelve free
- 28:53Speaker 2: throws on the day. Six of his eight shots were
- 28:56Speaker 2: from three, and he shot twelve free throws. He had
- 28:59Speaker 2: only attend did nine free throws in nine games coming
- 29:02Speaker 2: into this game. He had zero free throw attempts in
- 29:06Speaker 2: five of his previous nine games and goes twelve for
- 29:09Speaker 2: twelve Against West Virginia, he had a one hundred and
- 29:12Speaker 2: fifty percent free throw attempt rate. His average on the
- 29:16Speaker 2: season was eighteen percent.
- 29:21Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he accomplished. You were going.
- 29:23Speaker 2: I'm not done, Thank you very much. I'm still going.
- 29:26Speaker 2: Javon Small, who has played ninety four percent of West
- 29:30Speaker 2: Virginia's available minutes in Big Twelve play, has the ball
- 29:33Speaker 2: in his hands more than any other player on the court.
- 29:35Speaker 2: Leeds West Virginia in two point field goal attempts. Has
- 29:40Speaker 2: only attempted double digit free throws in two Big twelve games,
- 29:44Speaker 2: and he hasn't had one of those since January twenty
- 29:47Speaker 2: first versus Arizona State. Nearly a month, he has as
- 29:50Speaker 2: many games where he's attempted zero free throws as he
- 29:53Speaker 2: does double digit free throw attempts. Yeah, couple observations, Go
- 30:02Speaker 2: ahead while I pull up one more number.
- 30:04Speaker 4: Go ahead? Okay? Is that? I mean?
- 30:07Speaker 3: All that is extremely relevant and insightful about what happened.
- 30:14Speaker 4: I was, I was bred, I was doing you.
- 30:16Speaker 3: I was sitting next to my wife and I said,
- 30:18Speaker 3: they can't keep making free throws. We're gonna miss they
- 30:20Speaker 3: can't keep making free throws. And they kept making free throws.
- 30:23Speaker 3: Number one. Number two is in fairness, there was a
- 30:26Speaker 3: disparity in the whistle, clearly, I mean you've documented that.
- 30:28Speaker 3: But also you need to make a couple more free throws.
- 30:31Speaker 3: I mean you're eleven of seventeen, so when you do
- 30:33Speaker 3: get to the line, you need to make it. And
- 30:34Speaker 3: West Virginia was not effective at the free throw line.
- 30:36Speaker 3: That does That's part of this fair.
- 30:41Speaker 1: Fair absolutely off top of your head, do you know
- 30:45Speaker 1: how many front ends we missed? I didn't do that
- 30:48Speaker 1: at least two killers. You're right, I mean, the free
- 30:54Speaker 1: throw discrepancy is what it is. But you're eleven of
- 30:57Speaker 1: seventeen from the free throw line, and that's sixty five percent.
- 31:01Speaker 1: And as you said, where it's sixty one percent here
- 31:03Speaker 1: over the last how long oh?
- 31:06Speaker 2: Seven games? Not good enough, five losses. And here's the thing, guys,
- 31:09Speaker 2: I will give my standard disclaimer when we talk about
- 31:11Speaker 2: this is in one possession games like this. Yeah, there
- 31:15Speaker 2: are a million things you can find. I said that
- 31:16Speaker 2: make a couple more threes, got it, Toby doesn't slip,
- 31:20Speaker 2: makes it? Got it, make a couple more free throws,
- 31:22Speaker 2: got it. There's always things you can point to to yourself,
- 31:25Speaker 2: but you can't absolve the whistle either from these things.
- 31:28Speaker 2: It is a court. It is absolutely a factor. If
- 31:31Speaker 2: you get five more free throw attempts, maybe you only
- 31:34Speaker 2: make two of those, but maybe that's enough to get
- 31:36Speaker 2: you to win. So that's my point on this. And
- 31:38Speaker 2: I don't understand when I give you those numbers. It's
- 31:41Speaker 2: not just a team in West Virginia that's taking threes
- 31:44Speaker 2: and guarding and fouling every possession. We've had teams here
- 31:47Speaker 2: at West Virginia that fouled every possession because you can't
- 31:49Speaker 2: call everyone. And it was a great formula and it
- 31:51Speaker 2: worked tremendously well. That's not what this team does. The
- 31:55Speaker 2: styles have been too similar in too many of these
- 31:57Speaker 2: games with the free throw gaps to be screaming about this.
- 32:01Speaker 2: That's why I'm screaming about it. That's why I'm bringing
- 32:03Speaker 2: it up. That's why I'm bringing up that this is disparity.
- 32:06Speaker 2: Here's here's one last number. I'll leave you with this.
- 32:08Speaker 2: I gave you the two point one four more points
- 32:10Speaker 2: than West Virginia scored at the line for their opponents.
- 32:12Speaker 2: Here's the raw number. In the last seven games, five
- 32:16Speaker 2: of which are losses by West Virginia. West Virginia scored
- 32:19Speaker 2: forty seven points from the free throw line. It's opponents
- 32:22Speaker 2: in that time one hundred and one points scored. You
- 32:26Speaker 2: have been outscored one oh one to forty seven at
- 32:28Speaker 2: the free throw line in the last seven games. For again,
- 32:31Speaker 2: a javon small that has the ball the whole time
- 32:33Speaker 2: and is getting banged constantly. He is as teams handle
- 32:37Speaker 2: him as physically as any player in this league. And
- 32:40Speaker 2: he's had as many games with zero free throw attempts
- 32:42Speaker 2: as he has with double digits. That's just not right.
- 32:46Speaker 2: It's not right. And here's the problem, Hoppy. It's different
- 32:48Speaker 2: guys every game, so it's not one crew that's coming
- 32:51Speaker 2: in and making this judgment. But the officiating has been
- 32:56Speaker 2: different in these games. It just has. It just has.
- 32:59Speaker 2: And I don't know why, and I don't have a
- 33:00Speaker 2: good answer, but go back and watch that game. There
- 33:03Speaker 2: were some fouls on Baylor going to the basket that
- 33:05Speaker 2: were seemed very little contact in the grand scheme of
- 33:09Speaker 2: how physical that game was. And you go to the
- 33:11Speaker 2: other end and guys are getting clubbed to no call
- 33:14Speaker 2: that that's not the way it should be. And there's
- 33:18Speaker 2: the numbers. There's the numbers to support that, so you
- 33:21Speaker 2: can make the decision. There's some raw numbers, shots in
- 33:24Speaker 2: the paint, shots at the rim that there's all the
- 33:27Speaker 2: numbers for you.
- 33:28Speaker 1: Yeah, and one piece to that as well as you
- 33:31Speaker 1: can say, hey, West Virginia needs to make more free throws.
- 33:34Speaker 1: Another thing that a lot of fouls being called against
- 33:36Speaker 1: you do is it affects your player rotation.
- 33:40Speaker 2: Great point, so, which it did Saturday.
- 33:43Speaker 1: Right, it did. So now you've got guys sitting on
- 33:45Speaker 1: the bench for longer periods of time that wouldn't normally
- 33:47Speaker 1: be on the bench if you weren't getting these calls
- 33:49Speaker 1: that also plays into this thing huge, especially when you're
- 33:52Speaker 1: playing with seven and a half eight guys Max. So
- 33:56Speaker 1: it certainly, I mean to the point that Harris Elizovich
- 34:00Speaker 1: got in there in the first half on Saturday because
- 34:02Speaker 1: you were in a desperation mode with both the Andre
- 34:05Speaker 1: and Hansbury getting into early foul trouble. So yeah, it
- 34:08Speaker 1: certainly factors into it. So, like you said, I don't
- 34:13Speaker 1: think I have a good answer as to why it's happening.
- 34:16Speaker 1: Do I think there's this mass conspiracy against West Virginia
- 34:19Speaker 1: One thousand percent? Absolutely No, I don't agree.
- 34:23Speaker 2: I agree with that.
- 34:24Speaker 1: I think that I have seen a little bit more
- 34:27Speaker 1: than I want to see officials coming over to Darren
- 34:30Speaker 1: and saying after a play's been over, hey I missed
- 34:33Speaker 1: that one. I missed that one. Well, you know, I'm
- 34:36Speaker 1: at the point where okay, let's stop missing them. There's
- 34:40Speaker 1: too much on the line here to like, hey, come back,
- 34:43Speaker 1: Hey man, my bad, I miss that one. That's that's
- 34:47Speaker 1: going to happen. I get it. But to me, man,
- 34:50Speaker 1: like I always say, I don't need, I don't need,
- 34:55Speaker 1: I don't need to get more calls than I deserve.
- 34:58Speaker 1: I just need it to be fair. That's all I
- 35:00Speaker 1: want it to be.
- 35:02Speaker 3: What what you're seeing too is and when the season began,
- 35:06Speaker 3: and what we know about Devrees is he wants to
- 35:09Speaker 3: have a respectful relationship with the officials, right and I.
- 35:15Speaker 3: But you're seeing him be more animated of late with
- 35:19Speaker 3: the officiating. Would you all agree with that?
- 35:21Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, I. And we're going to get some text
- 35:26Speaker 1: questions about this that we'll get into later. And if
- 35:29Speaker 1: folks think that he's just sitting, you know, sitting by
- 35:32Speaker 1: and letting it all happen, he's not. He is sending
- 35:37Speaker 1: in constantly sending in clips and to the to the
- 35:40Speaker 1: supervisor of officials and saying like, explain, explain, explain this call,
- 35:45Speaker 1: Explain this kill? Why wasn't this, Why wasn't this, Why
- 35:48Speaker 1: wasn't this? And so you just keep your fingers crossed
- 35:51Speaker 1: that at some point you get enough communication there that
- 35:56Speaker 1: the word does come down and go, hey, guys, Javon
- 35:59Speaker 1: Small is getting freaking hammered here. If he's getting hammered,
- 36:03Speaker 1: call the foul. You hope that kind of pushes that
- 36:06Speaker 1: and you start to get there. Yeah.
- 36:07Speaker 2: And if you're not there, you're only seeing part of
- 36:09Speaker 2: the sideline too. He's not just walking up and down
- 36:12Speaker 2: the sideline in passively not screaming. I mean, so it's
- 36:15Speaker 2: not that, it's not that, let's tell you that right now.
- 36:18Speaker 2: It's not that, but something that it's just got to
- 36:20Speaker 2: be better. It's just got to be better, guys, It's
- 36:23Speaker 2: got to be better. That's it here. Last thing, we
- 36:27Speaker 2: said this all the time about the football schedule, Hoby,
- 36:29Speaker 2: West Virginia shouldn't be outliers when it comes to schedule strength.
- 36:33Speaker 2: They shouldn't be the only ones playing two power fives
- 36:35Speaker 2: when nobody else is. I'm saying the same thing about
- 36:38Speaker 2: these numbers. That's why I give you those numbers. West
- 36:41Speaker 2: Virginia shouldn't be involved in multiple games where the numbers
- 36:44Speaker 2: are outliers for its opponent. We shouldn't come in and
- 36:47Speaker 2: go that's highest free throw, temporary for Colorado, well, highes
- 36:49Speaker 2: for TCU, oh, highest forbid. It shouldn't be every game
- 36:53Speaker 2: it's an outlier for the opponent. That that's where I
- 36:56Speaker 2: start to go, what are you doing out here? What's happening?
- 36:59Speaker 2: You shouldn't be involved than outlier games more often than
- 37:02Speaker 2: you're not. And over the last seven there's been a
- 37:04Speaker 2: lot of outlier games that aren't going in West Virginia's direction.
- 37:07Speaker 2: You're due for an outlier game or two back. You
- 37:10Speaker 2: are due to be the one where I come in
- 37:12Speaker 2: and go, hey, I tell you what. West Virginia's free
- 37:13Speaker 2: throw temper rates about twenty three now, one of the
- 37:15Speaker 2: lowest in the country. It was forty eight today.
- 37:18Speaker 1: You know what's making the outliers more painful. They're making
- 37:21Speaker 1: the shots like they could be getting that many more shots.
- 37:24Speaker 1: But if they're coming in shooting like at the end
- 37:26Speaker 1: of the game they're at seventy, you'd go like, then't
- 37:29Speaker 1: hurt as bad, it wouldn't stand out as much. These
- 37:32Speaker 1: freaking guys are going out there eighty one percent to
- 37:34Speaker 1: one percent over seven games. Your opponent's making eighty which
- 37:37Speaker 1: is an astounding number, which would be like second in
- 37:40Speaker 1: the nation. I would think, I think someone's out there
- 37:43Speaker 1: shooting eighty three, but that's probably eighty one percent would
- 37:45Speaker 1: get you top five.
- 37:47Speaker 4: And they tried eighty four percent Saturday.
- 37:49Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, you're on that. Wisconsin's eighty four percent.
- 37:52Speaker 2: Eighty one percent would be number two in the country. Ye,
- 37:54Speaker 2: and you've had seven teams do it on average over
- 37:57Speaker 2: last seven games.
- 37:58Speaker 1: Well, I'd say this, since Brad has heated everything up,
- 38:02Speaker 1: we got to cool everything down. You know how you
- 38:03Speaker 1: cool things down, You go to big water. And if
- 38:07Speaker 1: you're a business owner, what are you doing trucking in
- 38:09Speaker 1: all these big cases a bunch of plastic water bottles
- 38:12Speaker 1: and jamming them all over the refrigerator in your break
- 38:15Speaker 1: You don't need that. The folks at Comac's Business Systems
- 38:18Speaker 1: have got an absolutely idyllic copy. I set an idyllic
- 38:22Speaker 1: water plan for businesses here in the state of West
- 38:26Speaker 1: Virginia and beyond. These brand new water cooler systems are
- 38:30Speaker 1: just fantastic. They got one of those bad boys in
- 38:32Speaker 1: there called the I twelve. This is the one that
- 38:35Speaker 1: kind of like if Steve Jobs was still around, like
- 38:37Speaker 1: he would have designed this because it's cutting edge technology
- 38:41Speaker 1: with sleek design, and this bad boy produces forty four
- 38:45Speaker 1: pounds ice plus a bunch of other storage hot water,
- 38:48Speaker 1: cold water. They've got your hydrated check it out COMASWUV
- 38:52Speaker 1: dot com. That is comas WV dot com. Well, like you,
- 38:59Speaker 1: you you were up to your word there. You said
- 39:01Speaker 1: you were gonna bum us out. You bummed us out.
- 39:04Speaker 1: I just wanted to give you numbers some good job there,
- 39:06Speaker 1: good job there. Let's do a little bit of this
- 39:18Speaker 1: time for textual healing, my friends. Textual Healing is brought
- 39:22Speaker 1: to us by episode eight hundred. Dot com that happens
- 39:26Speaker 1: to be the website where you can take a look
- 39:28Speaker 1: at everything to do with three Guys before the game. Great,
- 39:34Speaker 1: great reconnaissance on all the popcorn that went out for
- 39:37Speaker 1: Valentine's Day, mountaineer roasting coffee, all of our apparel stuff. Hop,
- 39:43Speaker 1: he's wearing something today, Brad's wearing something. I got something on.
- 39:48Speaker 1: We're all three guys out. New logo, old logo. Yeah,
- 39:52Speaker 1: toying around with a new item as well. You got
- 39:56Speaker 1: a test brought to my house last yesterday. What now, Yeah,
- 40:01Speaker 1: Dave had homeless Dave had something sent over to the
- 40:06Speaker 1: house for us to take a look at a drink devices.
- 40:11Speaker 4: I've heard of it.
- 40:11Speaker 1: Yeah, drink device. Well, we'll scan that and take a look.
- 40:16Speaker 4: Don't get all up in tutors stuff, you know.
- 40:18Speaker 1: Well, you're out of focus. We bring it back a
- 40:20Speaker 1: little bit. It right in front of your face, Put
- 40:21Speaker 1: it right in front of your face. There.
- 40:23Speaker 4: You got to keep it there, yeah, keep it there.
- 40:26Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, see see how see how strong your shoulders are.
- 40:29Speaker 1: Let's see if you can hold it up for the
- 40:30Speaker 1: next twenty two minutes. How about that.
- 40:32Speaker 2: Hey, by the way, we didn't do Cincinnata preview.
- 40:35Speaker 1: Oh jeez, what am I do?
- 40:36Speaker 2: Let's do Let's do textual healing and then we'll come
- 40:37Speaker 2: back to Cincinnata.
- 40:38Speaker 1: Well that's kind of neat. Yeah, mix it up. That's
- 40:41Speaker 1: kind of neat, all right, So let's do that.
- 40:44Speaker 2: See, we're game planning different a lot of this.
- 40:46Speaker 1: I'm gonna just run through these really super quick and
- 40:49Speaker 1: not some of them AM not even going to use
- 40:50Speaker 1: because I don't think there's anything more we can say
- 40:52Speaker 1: about free throw shooting. But a lot of people, to
- 40:54Speaker 1: their you know, to their point, put a bunch of
- 40:59Speaker 1: stuff in there. You had a stretch of games before
- 41:01Speaker 1: with this poor of officiating so inconsistent. Our guys get
- 41:04Speaker 1: mugged one end, literally, don't touch him on the other
- 41:06Speaker 1: it's a whistle. How about this one Russell who's in
- 41:09Speaker 1: Wichita Falls, Texas. My girlfriend Cassie gave me one of
- 41:13Speaker 1: the best Valentine's Day presents I could ask for, tickets
- 41:17Speaker 1: to West Virginia. Baylor went well with the Valentine's Day
- 41:20Speaker 1: popcorn that I got her. The first thing I told
- 41:23Speaker 1: her was I love you and thank you for an
- 41:25Speaker 1: amazing gift, followed up by the second thing I told her,
- 41:28Speaker 1: which was you know what this means. Right, We're going
- 41:31Speaker 1: to make our mission to finally meet the three guys.
- 41:34Speaker 1: Game day comes mission success. Make our way to Tony
- 41:37Speaker 1: and Brad since it was an away game, say our hellos,
- 41:40Speaker 1: ask if we can get our picture made. Brad taps
- 41:43Speaker 1: a man facing away from us on the shoulder, thinking
- 41:46Speaker 1: he was going to ask the fine gentleman to take
- 41:48Speaker 1: our picture. Low and behold that man turned out to
- 41:50Speaker 1: be none other than Hoppy himself. How about that?
- 41:55Speaker 2: Well it's a good picture too, look at it.
- 41:57Speaker 1: Yeah, we got a picture made. There, great people. I
- 42:01Speaker 1: know this is a long text, but we want to
- 42:02Speaker 1: thank you guys for taking time to meet us. Great
- 42:05Speaker 1: conversation truly was the highlight of our weekend. And got
- 42:07Speaker 1: some popcorn too, they bought. He bought the popcorn right there,
- 42:09Speaker 1: It is there, it is there, it is Thanks Valentine's
- 42:11Speaker 1: you know real quick.
- 42:13Speaker 2: Rustle and Cassie there, thank you for your service to
- 42:15Speaker 2: both in the Air Force. Yes, in their station to
- 42:17Speaker 2: winch taught falls.
- 42:18Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh I was talking to Russell. He's from Charlestown,
- 42:22Speaker 3: Yeah he is, that's right, Yeah, my neck of the woods.
- 42:26Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 42:27Speaker 4: So had a nice visit.
- 42:28Speaker 1: Text or asked this question. If we end up missing
- 42:32Speaker 1: the tournament, can we still call it a successful year?
- 42:36Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yeah, equivocally.
- 42:39Speaker 2: I concur Yeah. And here's why I say that. And
- 42:43Speaker 2: I know it's a zero some business. It's it's a
- 42:45Speaker 2: win games business. I get it. Giving your injury, most
- 42:48Speaker 2: notably to Tucker, never mind the other ones that have followed,
- 42:51Speaker 2: it changed how this team would look significantly, and in
- 42:54Speaker 2: year one, or if you want to use Hoppies year zero,
- 42:57Speaker 2: to be where you are, where you're solidly in the
- 42:59Speaker 2: field with two weeks to go in this season is
- 43:02Speaker 2: remarkable from the rebuild that this team had to do.
- 43:04Speaker 2: So I think the reason I say success is because
- 43:07Speaker 2: you feel like copy the future is extremely bright. You've
- 43:10Speaker 2: seen enough out of this group to know you are
- 43:13Speaker 2: trending absolutely in the right direction.
- 43:15Speaker 4: Agreed, Agreed, agreed completely.
- 43:17Speaker 1: Steven Tennessee, paraphrasing his text, he wants Darren to go
- 43:22Speaker 1: absolutely crazy, maybe get kicked out of a game, Maybe
- 43:25Speaker 1: a fine. Let this league know and the referees, we're
- 43:28Speaker 1: not going to take it anymore.
- 43:31Speaker 4: Not his style. I mean, he doesn't get he's not
- 43:33Speaker 4: going to get kicked out now.
- 43:34Speaker 1: I think he's doing it more behind the scenes, saying
- 43:38Speaker 1: like yo, we'll see how that plays out next. Texter,
- 43:43Speaker 1: I don't have a name, but I upset him. He
- 43:46Speaker 1: wrote a really lengthy text and several texts, and I
- 43:51Speaker 1: wrote back, I didn't mean to be mean, but I said,
- 43:56Speaker 1: this is six hundred and thirty nine words.
- 43:59Speaker 4: And you must have really made him man, So I.
- 44:03Speaker 1: Said six hundred thirty nine words. I said, I put
- 44:05Speaker 1: it into chat GPT and I asked chat gp to
- 44:08Speaker 1: give me five bullet points on what you've written. Yeah,
- 44:12Speaker 1: And he came back to me and said, having a
- 44:14Speaker 1: bad day. I really wasn't trying to be like I
- 44:22Speaker 1: was just saying, like, dude, I can't read like five
- 44:24Speaker 1: hundred words essay in college, Like that's a big thing,
- 44:27Speaker 1: like six hundred and thirty nine. Just like so anyway, chat
- 44:31Speaker 1: GPT broke his very salient points down and he's and
- 44:35Speaker 1: here it is man. Season three throw Discrepancy Disparity. West
- 44:38Speaker 1: Virginia has attempted three eighty one opponents have taken four
- 44:42Speaker 1: sixty one. In Power five and Big twelve play, the
- 44:45Speaker 1: disparity even stronger. West Virginia's two seventy five and three
- 44:50Speaker 1: sixty for Power five teams. In Big twelve games, it's
- 44:53Speaker 1: one ninety one to two fifty eight. How about this
- 44:56Speaker 1: one seven the first seven Big twelve games, animal difference
- 45:01Speaker 1: was just one point four shots more per game. Last
- 45:04Speaker 1: seven it's balloon to eight per game. Last four games
- 45:08Speaker 1: is even worse. The graph the gap grew to eight
- 45:13Speaker 1: point six per game. Excluding Utah's second half, it goes
- 45:17Speaker 1: to eleven and a half more per game. Factors at play.
- 45:22Speaker 1: Some argue officials may have an expectancy bias against West
- 45:26Speaker 1: Virginia's physical style, but fatigue in a short, undersized bench
- 45:29Speaker 1: also contribute to the late game struggles. Texter says, and
- 45:35Speaker 1: by the to a dead person who wrote that I
- 45:37Speaker 1: didn't mean to be like, I'm just saying like, I
- 45:39Speaker 1: gotta have it shorter, Tony, pick up the phone. It's
- 45:43Speaker 1: time to call your people. Baseball just swept a double
- 45:47Speaker 1: header on Saturday in Florida. They're three and Oh what
- 45:50Speaker 1: a start for Steve savings. I go to the Big
- 45:53Speaker 1: twelve website, check the baseball schedule, and all of the
- 45:57Speaker 1: game times are listed in Central time. He writes. Jan
- 46:01Speaker 1: Dill's is an attorney. Can't they do something about this?
- 46:05Speaker 1: I think she might file a motion to the court.
- 46:08Speaker 2: I think, yeah, we're loading Jan Dill's up today.
- 46:11Speaker 1: With She's very big in Texas. You know those veterans.
- 46:14Speaker 2: Yeah, big in Texas.
- 46:16Speaker 1: One of the biggest areas in Texas. War shoot. Yeah,
- 46:18Speaker 1: well I've great a lot.
- 46:19Speaker 2: Of people in Texas, TCU, Baylor. We need some help.
- 46:22Speaker 1: Yeah, text her. I know that you can dissect every
- 46:26Speaker 1: game and find a player too here or there. If
- 46:28Speaker 1: we would have made could have game, could have won games.
- 46:30Speaker 1: But we also have had some extraordinary statistical anomalies when
- 46:34Speaker 1: it comes to free throw shooting, and they give us
- 46:37Speaker 1: the same numbers that we just kind of Hey, can
- 46:40Speaker 1: I throw out something we've never said, never happy.
- 46:44Speaker 3: For consideration, and that is talk to me about j
- 46:48Speaker 3: about JP. He's a freshman and clearly he's got a shot.
- 46:52Speaker 3: Clearly he needs to take shots. But Brad, you played,
- 46:56Speaker 3: you were a shooter, and the poor guy just does
- 46:59Speaker 3: not hit. I mean, one of twelve or whatever it
- 47:01Speaker 3: was on Saturday, and give me a and had some
- 47:04Speaker 3: open looks.
- 47:05Speaker 4: That's it, give me the breakdown on JP.
- 47:07Speaker 2: Well, first of all, far be it from me to
- 47:08Speaker 2: try and critique JP as a shooter compared to me.
- 47:11Speaker 2: Certainly a much more talented shooter than I was, no question,
- 47:14Speaker 2: Except for the one game I hit when I hit
- 47:16Speaker 2: the school record for three pointers I was that night.
- 47:18Speaker 2: I was probably better than about anybody simply here. It's
- 47:23Speaker 2: just simply confidence, right, He's just got to see a
- 47:25Speaker 2: few go down. He is a really talented, high end
- 47:28Speaker 2: shooter and struggled the other day. I mean, it's it's
- 47:31Speaker 2: as simple as that. He's got a great shot. Mechanically,
- 47:34Speaker 2: it's very good. He's going to make a bunch of
- 47:36Speaker 2: shots in a mountain your uniform, and he just simply
- 47:38Speaker 2: did not make a ton the other night. That's it.
- 47:40Speaker 2: Get some confidence back. And he's a he's a streaky
- 47:42Speaker 2: hot shooter. He'll he'll hit you three or four in
- 47:45Speaker 2: a row at some point. And Tony, that's why I thought.
- 47:46Speaker 2: He hit that three in the end one and I thought, okay,
- 47:49Speaker 2: maybe maybe that unlocks you and gets you going, and
- 47:52Speaker 2: it just it wasn't his night.
- 47:54Speaker 1: Here's the deal man. And I learned this from John
- 47:57Speaker 1: Bline years and years ago. We were playing that game
- 48:00Speaker 1: that everyone remembers down in Charleston against Florida, and I
- 48:04Speaker 1: forget what cat they had. Gators had a freshman and
- 48:06Speaker 1: they had just played some games up in Madison Square Garden.
- 48:09Speaker 1: And this freshman kid was it Teddy Dupey. No Dupey,
- 48:13Speaker 1: it was a different dude, and he was going off.
- 48:17Speaker 1: And I said to John, I went like, gosh, have
- 48:20Speaker 1: you seen this kid? I mean, how are you going
- 48:22Speaker 1: to deal with this kid? And he said, you know, man,
- 48:26Speaker 1: freshman or freshmen, And he said, I don't care how
- 48:28Speaker 1: good they are, they just sometimes they freshman. And I'll
- 48:32Speaker 1: give you a classic example, right, you have a guy
- 48:36Speaker 1: on that other team Saturday who was going to be
- 48:38Speaker 1: a multi millionaire this time next year. His name is VJ. Edgecombe. He,
- 48:44Speaker 1: like Jonathan poul took twelve shots on Saturday. The multi
- 48:47Speaker 1: millionaire went three for twelve, zero for five. He's a freshman. Right,
- 48:55Speaker 1: And so the consistency, your standard aviation of performance improves
- 49:02Speaker 1: the older that you get. You can rely more on
- 49:06Speaker 1: your sophomores than your freshmen. Your juniors than your sophomores,
- 49:09Speaker 1: your seniors than why because they've been around and so
- 49:15Speaker 1: you shouldn't be totally taken aback by it. That's, unfortunately,
- 49:19Speaker 1: just those growing pains. That's the reality. Now. One other
- 49:23Speaker 1: thing about Jonathan Paul. You guys remember like one hundred
- 49:26Speaker 1: years ago on this show, even though we've only been
- 49:28Speaker 1: doing it for eight we busted down those numbers. When
- 49:32Speaker 1: a freshman scores on average over four points per game,
- 49:37Speaker 1: they go on and they have these really good careers.
- 49:41Speaker 1: He's in that plus category. He's like eight points per game.
- 49:45Speaker 1: So he's going to be very good. The numbers, you know,
- 49:48Speaker 1: that's what they're indicating. And so the good news is, yeah,
- 49:52Speaker 1: he's coming, but you are going to have some games
- 49:54Speaker 1: where he'll be hot, in some games where you know
- 49:57Speaker 1: it's not going to happen. So it doesn't totally make
- 49:59Speaker 1: me go, so what's going on?
- 50:00Speaker 2: No, it's just that's just part of the ups and
- 50:02Speaker 2: downs of a freshman season. I give him credit for this.
- 50:04Speaker 2: He was your leading rebounder on Saturday. He got in
- 50:06Speaker 2: there and battled those days. Had nine rebounds on Saturday.
- 50:09Speaker 2: So found a way to do some other things.
- 50:11Speaker 3: Boy, when you are as close to it as you
- 50:15Speaker 3: guys are. And I had great seats thanks to Tony
- 50:17Speaker 3: Courdi on Saturday. Wife and I is that you see
- 50:20Speaker 3: the physical like you? Why don't think it the rebound?
- 50:22Speaker 3: I mean the physicality, it's unbelievable. And rebounding, I mean
- 50:26Speaker 3: just guys fighting, battling. I mean, it's it's a chore.
- 50:29Speaker 3: You get a rebound, You get a rebound in some
- 50:32Speaker 3: of those environments, that's a big deal.
- 50:34Speaker 4: That's you earned.
- 50:35Speaker 2: How about getting through screens? Is it physical at the
- 50:37Speaker 2: point of contact on screens?
- 50:39Speaker 4: It's like, well, you have to break a tackle first
- 50:41Speaker 4: of all.
- 50:42Speaker 1: Well, you know you for example, you know, I talk
- 50:43Speaker 1: about experience. Like Nord shadow Mere six seven, two hundred
- 50:47Speaker 1: and forty pounds, played two years at Arkansas State, played
- 50:50Speaker 1: two years at Miami, has scored over two thousand points.
- 50:53Speaker 1: He's the current active Division one rebound leader in college.
- 50:58Speaker 2: Basketball, double level machine. And he just goes out there.
- 51:01Speaker 1: He goes six of eleven, score seventeen, gets ten rebounds
- 51:07Speaker 1: and has four steals.
- 51:09Speaker 4: Yeah, he was good. How do you have good?
- 51:11Speaker 1: I mean, and he does that and he's been doing
- 51:12Speaker 1: it as like his one hundredth plus game. Just a
- 51:15Speaker 1: world of difference. Man, that's a world of difference. Three
- 51:20Speaker 1: guys before the game is brought to us by the
- 51:21Speaker 1: super fine folks at gomart. Just remember I try to
- 51:28Speaker 1: push you guys toward deals, right, Hoppy, I'm trying to
- 51:31Speaker 1: help people deals. Gave you that tutors deal where you
- 51:35Speaker 1: buy one get the other one for a buck. I
- 51:37Speaker 1: don't know why you wouldn't want twenty cents off a
- 51:39Speaker 1: gallon of gas all for downloading an app. Go to
- 51:42Speaker 1: gomart dot com, go to get wherever you get your apps,
- 51:45Speaker 1: download the Gomart app. You play, you play Tiki Solitaire.
- 51:49Speaker 1: All you gotta do is play Tiki Solitaire one game
- 51:52Speaker 1: on that app, Brad, and you get twenty cents off
- 51:55Speaker 1: a gallon.
- 51:56Speaker 2: Easy.
- 51:56Speaker 1: Do it right? Check it out at gomar. By the way,
- 52:01Speaker 1: our beer continues to be the beer of the month.
- 52:02Speaker 1: There he's just gonna ask you, Oh yeah, connection three
- 52:05Speaker 1: or four?
- 52:05Speaker 2: What's the date? Seventeen again? Eleven days?
- 52:07Speaker 1: Eleven days.
- 52:09Speaker 2: Not that it's going away, it's just the featured beer
- 52:11Speaker 2: of the month this month.
- 52:12Speaker 1: Correct. Check it out at gomart. All right, more officiating stuff.
- 52:17Speaker 1: I think we already did. H Can you tell me
- 52:20Speaker 1: when the Golden Blue Game. Oh hi, guys, can you
- 52:23Speaker 1: tell me what the Golden Blue Game is like? I've
- 52:27Speaker 1: got a four year old nephew who I'm trying to
- 52:29Speaker 1: decide if it would be a fun experience for that
- 52:31Speaker 1: age or is it better for older kids who have
- 52:34Speaker 1: a little bit more of an understanding of what happens
- 52:36Speaker 1: in a football game.
- 52:37Speaker 4: Good question. Four year old is not going to get it.
- 52:43Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, come on up to the Golden Blue Game
- 52:45Speaker 2: because they're not going to be playing real football. Come
- 52:47Speaker 2: on up.
- 52:47Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be It'll be a lot of bunch of
- 52:49Speaker 1: different I would say the four year old's probably gonna
- 52:51Speaker 1: his favorite thing is probably going to be what he
- 52:53Speaker 1: gets at the concession stand. But there's gonna be enough
- 52:55Speaker 1: hoopla hollering and fun and music and stuff that he'll
- 52:58Speaker 1: probably be entertained.
- 52:58Speaker 2: Video board, this should be visually stimulated, right with all
- 53:02Speaker 2: the stuff going on, bring might be a fun.
- 53:04Speaker 3: Day maybe, or the four year old to be lining
- 53:05Speaker 3: up cups on the bleachers.
- 53:06Speaker 2: You know, it could be also fun because you're probably
- 53:09Speaker 2: not doing that in your living room, so also fun.
- 53:14Speaker 1: Hello two or three guys, we know how tough Big
- 53:17Speaker 1: twelve is. But the rest of the nation took notice
- 53:20Speaker 1: when five Big twelve schools were projected top sixteen released
- 53:24Speaker 1: by the NCAA this week, and we've defeated three of
- 53:27Speaker 1: those five, plus we have a chance to knock off
- 53:30Speaker 1: another one this Saturday. We will see Tony and Brad
- 53:34Speaker 1: there in Lubbock. By the way, how do you rate
- 53:37Speaker 1: my plate at our Valentine's dinner at Double Cut in
- 53:40Speaker 1: Round Rock Features? Look at this thing, man, This is
- 53:42Speaker 1: a elie, a lobster tail, a skewer with steak, and
- 53:46Speaker 1: a humongous tiger shrimp in the small bowl. Was Moroccan
- 53:50Speaker 1: couscous outstanding. There's Joe mock Leander, Texas.
- 53:57Speaker 4: So look at that, dude, and dinner came with a
- 54:01Speaker 4: dinner came with a piece of equipment to there.
- 54:03Speaker 2: He went over top, gave you a drone shot of
- 54:05Speaker 2: the meal.
- 54:05Speaker 1: I like that, and then after he got done eating that,
- 54:08Speaker 1: they had to bring that back to the operating room
- 54:10Speaker 1: at Baylor's.
- 54:12Speaker 2: Is that the couscous right there? We're looking down on a.
- 54:14Speaker 1: Little yellow thing. Yeah, it's a tight grain, very tight.
- 54:18Speaker 2: By the way, the credit to game didn't go like
- 54:21Speaker 2: we wanted, but our pregame meal at the hotel was
- 54:25Speaker 2: about as good. And I haven't traveled as much as
- 54:27Speaker 2: you in the last ten years. That's about as good
- 54:28Speaker 2: a pregame meal as I think you're gonna get. Oh really,
- 54:30Speaker 2: I agree.
- 54:31Speaker 1: Yeah, here's what happened.
- 54:32Speaker 2: I was elite.
- 54:33Speaker 1: Here's what happened. So what happened. So we're staying at
- 54:36Speaker 1: this hotel and it has a new one and the
- 54:40Speaker 1: folks they have a steak restaurant in the hotel, and
- 54:43Speaker 1: people around Waco, including like people you know that know
- 54:47Speaker 1: really good stuff, they go like that place is extraordinary.
- 54:49Speaker 1: Here's what I think happened. So it's Valentine's Night. Their
- 54:55Speaker 1: restaurants packed out. I think we were getting the same
- 54:58Speaker 1: steak that they were serving in their restaurant, right, they
- 55:04Speaker 1: weren't gonna make it, and I think we got that.
- 55:07Speaker 1: Some people may have over.
- 55:08Speaker 2: Eight don't know who that would be.
- 55:12Speaker 4: A New York's trip would you have if it was?
- 55:15Speaker 2: It was just bashed potatoes were excellent.
- 55:17Speaker 1: Extraordinary, really good.
- 55:19Speaker 4: You guys right downtown, guys, downtown.
- 55:24Speaker 1: We were across the interstate Hopey and on the other side. Yeah,
- 55:28Speaker 1: we had to walk across. Okay, that turned into the
- 55:33Speaker 1: tire adventure. We had great coffee. We we had Dichotomy
- 55:37Speaker 1: in Waco, which is my favorite god. And then we
- 55:39Speaker 1: walked down to Magnoldia, got another cup, just wanted to
- 55:43Speaker 1: see if Chip and Joanna were in.
- 55:44Speaker 2: We did not see Chip and Joanna.
- 55:45Speaker 4: No.
- 55:46Speaker 2: We had a nice even though it was than we
- 55:49Speaker 2: thought it was going to be hot, but we had
- 55:50Speaker 2: a nice walk.
- 55:51Speaker 4: They had a Q and A and some information.
- 55:53Speaker 3: I looked up about Chip and Joanne, Joanna, Joanna, Joanna
- 55:58Speaker 3: and it says we'll in the question will we see
- 56:01Speaker 3: Chip and Joanna And the answer was you might, but
- 56:05Speaker 3: please respect their privacy.
- 56:07Speaker 2: Now they Chip's been to Morgantown.
- 56:11Speaker 1: Oh yeah. We had a good conversation with the dude
- 56:15Speaker 1: it's in charge of their marketing for Magnolia, who came
- 56:19Speaker 1: to Waco after serving for over a decade in charge
- 56:23Speaker 1: of merchandising at Nike. We had struck up a conversation
- 56:27Speaker 1: with him. Satura very nice, very nice Shelman.
- 56:29Speaker 2: You see f grad.
- 56:29Speaker 1: Yeah, Ken, I used to be in the district of Columbia.
- 56:33Speaker 2: Yeah, and in Oregon a little bit.
- 56:36Speaker 3: Tony, you should have had that in your rider. We
- 56:39Speaker 3: see Tony you might, but please reflect his privacy.
- 56:43Speaker 1: I'm good. Uh. This guy went to the West Liberty
- 56:46Speaker 1: Fairmont State game. He said that he's a Hilltopper fan.
- 56:49Speaker 1: Hilltoppers come back double digit down at halftime. A couple
- 56:53Speaker 1: of Fairmont fans are giving us a hard time the
- 56:55Speaker 1: whole night. He over there at Joe Retin Arena, says
- 56:58Speaker 1: it was extremely satisfying and around on the way out,
- 57:01Speaker 1: and I let out an emphatic thanks for having us.
- 57:04Speaker 1: He said, the looks on their faces priceless.
- 57:06Speaker 2: Gave an mac thanks for having Yeah, yeah, sure, commissioners
- 57:10Speaker 2: applicable a lot of places, amos.
- 57:13Speaker 1: All right, Cincinnati, here comes the rematch. They've won three
- 57:15Speaker 1: of four since West Virginia beat them.
- 57:19Speaker 2: Yes, that's where I was starting, and they they won
- 57:22Speaker 2: three in a row after that. West Virginia lost prior
- 57:24Speaker 2: to losing to Iowa State on Saturday. Here's what jumped
- 57:26Speaker 2: to me. Averaged eighty seven points per game in those
- 57:30Speaker 2: three wins. I was again hoping they might lay down
- 57:34Speaker 2: after the West Virginia game. A lot of noise around
- 57:37Speaker 2: that program. They did not hop They have popped back
- 57:39Speaker 2: and been playing great basketball. They had eleven threes against
- 57:42Speaker 2: Utah ten against BYU, and two of those three games
- 57:45Speaker 2: right after.
- 57:45Speaker 1: They ran BYU off of the floor one by twenty,
- 57:50Speaker 1: didn't they They were.
- 57:51Speaker 2: Filling it up and league lay down right, just lay down.
- 57:57Speaker 2: They won't And that's what in an upcoming West Virginia.
- 58:00Speaker 2: But just get out of the way. Just give us
- 58:02Speaker 2: one here for God's sakes. Jizzle James Gigzl James, one
- 58:06Speaker 2: of the all time great names, was held to zero
- 58:09Speaker 2: points the first time West Virginia and Cincinnata met sincere
- 58:12Speaker 2: in particular, Di just a great job, totally took Gigsel
- 58:14Speaker 2: James out of his game. He's been absolutely on fire
- 58:18Speaker 2: twenty one per game during their three game winning streak,
- 58:21Speaker 2: and then he put up twenty five against Iowa State
- 58:24Speaker 2: in their last So Gigsel James will be somebody to
- 58:26Speaker 2: keep an eye on. When they roll in couple keys
- 58:29Speaker 2: against them, you're going to want to limit them in
- 58:30Speaker 2: transition points. West Virginia held them to a season low
- 58:33Speaker 2: five points in transition in the first meeting. The Bearcats
- 58:37Speaker 2: are three and six when they get single digit transition points,
- 58:41Speaker 2: but two of those wins came in the last three games,
- 58:44Speaker 2: as evidenced by the three point shooting, so that's how
- 58:46Speaker 2: they overcame that. But if West Virginia can slow them
- 58:48Speaker 2: down again, that would be really helpful. Here's another team, guys,
- 58:54Speaker 2: that comes in and doesn't get to the line very much.
- 58:57Speaker 2: So I would think you won't see Cincinnati get more
- 59:00Speaker 2: than about a free thrower two because they don't get
- 59:02Speaker 2: to lie. They're a bottom fifteen team nationally and a
- 59:06Speaker 2: bottom thirty team when it comes to free throw percentage,
- 59:09Speaker 2: so they don't get there and they don't make them.
- 59:11Speaker 2: And no, I did not cut that from the TCU
- 59:14Speaker 2: preview or the Utah preview or anybody else's preview. It's
- 59:17Speaker 2: another team. They only shot twelve in the first meeting,
- 59:21Speaker 2: which was a good sign. But how about this? You
- 59:24Speaker 2: ready for this? West Virginia has been called for more
- 59:28Speaker 2: fouls than its opponent in every single Big twelve road
- 59:32Speaker 2: game this season. West Virginia has more fouls called on
- 59:35Speaker 2: it than its opponent in every single road game. Home games,
- 59:40Speaker 2: West Virginia has only been called for fouls more than
- 59:43Speaker 2: its opponents in four of the seven games, so one
- 59:45Speaker 2: hundred percent of the time on the road, only fifty
- 59:48Speaker 2: seven percent of the time at home. In Cincinnati's four
- 59:55Speaker 2: of seven Big Twelve road games, they've committed more fouls
- 59:59Speaker 2: than their opponent. So maybe this is a game. Maybe
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: this is a game that flips and West Virginia gets
- 1:00:06Speaker 2: a few more points at the line. And the reason
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: I'm bringing that up is not just to piggyback on
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: our previous conversation, but West Virginia's gonna have to find
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: some points. You know, you start to dig in those
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: numbers that Cincinnati game, we walked out of their giddy
- 1:00:17Speaker 2: high five and you win on the road. We got
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: home in like thirteen minutes. It was a great It
- 1:00:20Speaker 2: was a great trip, Like we were all get You
- 1:00:22Speaker 2: start to look at those numbers and it was like
- 1:00:24Speaker 2: game was a little bit closer there than you wanted
- 1:00:26Speaker 2: it to be. Sunday, Joe Yesafu was outstanding, got you
- 1:00:30Speaker 2: through that game. But that was a close game.
- 1:00:32Speaker 1: You made it.
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: You were really good from three right and your defense
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: was very good. Your plan was great. You took away
- 1:00:37Speaker 2: their lobs. But this is not just a gimme because
- 1:00:40Speaker 2: you won the first game. West Virginia held Cincinnati to
- 1:00:43Speaker 2: its second lowest field goal percentage of the season that day,
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: just thirty one and a half percent. West Virginia fourth
- 1:00:48Speaker 2: Cincinnati and do his second most turnovers in Big twelve play.
- 1:00:52Speaker 2: West Virginia had twelve steals in that game. Cincinnati's owned
- 1:00:56Speaker 2: five and Big twelve play if they have twelve or
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: more turnovers, So that's the number you're watching, which is
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: a good sign. That's what West Virginia likes to do.
- 1:01:02Speaker 2: West Virginia blocked seven shots in that game, and a
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: lot of that came from what they wanted to do Hoppy.
- 1:01:07Speaker 2: They had to eliminate the lob Cincinnati wants to get
- 1:01:10Speaker 2: in there, come set a screen or barely screen it,
- 1:01:12Speaker 2: or go screen it and turn it head to the rim,
- 1:01:14Speaker 2: and they lob it up. West Virginia was prepared for it,
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: talked about it in practice and shoot around and eliminated
- 1:01:19Speaker 2: that from the game. Made Cincinnati shoot from the outside
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: and they couldn't make threes. They've shown they've been able
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: to do that the last couple of games, so we'll
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: have to see that. So we'll see. This will be
- 1:01:28Speaker 2: a challenge. This will be an important game for West
- 1:01:31Speaker 2: Virginia has to get it if it wants to be
- 1:01:33Speaker 2: in the NCAA Tournament. I think this is one of those.
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: If you're going to be a tournament team, work's not
- 1:01:37Speaker 2: done if you get this one, But you can continue
- 1:01:39Speaker 2: down that path if you're around you get this one,
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: they're gonna bring it.
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: They're going to bring it. They're going to bring it
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: times fifty. They're going to bring it. Wes Miller, their coach.
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: You just watch them coaching. He's pissed off, right, don't
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: you just see it in his face like he is.
- 1:01:55Speaker 2: Well he should. There was a lot of heat. He
- 1:01:58Speaker 2: was getting a lot of heat following that West Virginia
- 1:02:00Speaker 2: and they were in a bad stretch.
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: He is going to come in here. I'm just promising you,
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: like a caged animal, it is going to be on
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: for those guys. He will have them into a frenzy.
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: You better bring it now.
- 1:02:11Speaker 2: That's the same thing we said going into their place,
- 1:02:13Speaker 2: and West Virginia came out and said, oh, is that right?
- 1:02:15Speaker 2: We're pissed off to watch this. So I think the
- 1:02:18Speaker 2: key here mentality wise, hop You've had two really tough
- 1:02:23Speaker 2: losses where you went right down to one possession where
- 1:02:25Speaker 2: they could have been wins, and they both went against you.
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: So it's incumbent upon this team and I think he'll
- 1:02:30Speaker 2: get this. But this West Virginia team, instead of being
- 1:02:32Speaker 2: dejected by that, has to say, okay, listen, we're playing
- 1:02:36Speaker 2: pretty well right now. I know the record doesn't indicate
- 1:02:38Speaker 2: that the last couple of games. We are playing well
- 1:02:40Speaker 2: and we are executing and we are right there.
- 1:02:43Speaker 1: Now.
- 1:02:43Speaker 2: We get them at home, go out and bury these guys.
- 1:02:46Speaker 2: So mentality is going to be important.
- 1:02:48Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:02:48Speaker 3: Look, if this team had packed it in, they would
- 1:02:50Speaker 3: have got whacked at Bailor.
- 1:02:52Speaker 4: Okay, but they didn't.
- 1:02:53Speaker 3: They definitely And what deVie said after the game was
- 1:02:57Speaker 3: he was satisfied with with the effort, with how they play.
- 1:03:00Speaker 3: So you know, can you can you just make a
- 1:03:02Speaker 3: few more shots, get some equality in the free throws,
- 1:03:06Speaker 3: and then see if you can win. No, you got
- 1:03:08Speaker 3: two out of the next three year at home. That
- 1:03:10Speaker 3: Texas Tech road trip is going to be very, very tough.
- 1:03:12Speaker 3: You guys should leave probably three days ahead of time
- 1:03:14Speaker 3: to get out there. That's gonna be tough. But can
- 1:03:16Speaker 3: you win two out of three and kind of get
- 1:03:18Speaker 3: things back on track and secure your footing for the
- 1:03:20Speaker 3: NCAA tournament.
- 1:03:21Speaker 4: Ken Palm still has you at forty seven.
- 1:03:23Speaker 2: You didn't move that's what I'm saying about that Baylor game.
- 1:03:25Speaker 2: You barely lost in your seating projection and you did
- 1:03:28Speaker 2: not move in ken palm. That tells you how well
- 1:03:30Speaker 2: you played in that game. Your numbers actually got better
- 1:03:33Speaker 2: and held your line right there.
- 1:03:34Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, before we are you getting near the end?
- 1:03:37Speaker 3: Yes, sir, go ahead, Okay, well, and that need to
- 1:03:41Speaker 3: give a shout out to the West Virginia women's team
- 1:03:44Speaker 3: for and by the way, they're playing right.
- 1:03:46Speaker 1: Now or will be twenty one minutes from now.
- 1:03:49Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know so if you're listening live, got
- 1:03:52Speaker 3: a Presidence Still game, but they had senior day beat
- 1:03:56Speaker 3: Cincinnata JJ Quinnoley eleven of twenty two nine points moved
- 1:04:01Speaker 3: into number five all time leading scores Western New women,
- 1:04:05Speaker 3: So congratulations of her in the seniors. And they're having
- 1:04:08Speaker 3: this incredible year ranked in the top twenty and playing
- 1:04:11Speaker 3: ky State this afternoon.
- 1:04:12Speaker 2: Yeah, and Mark got a milestone win this weekend, right
- 1:04:15Speaker 2: Mark kelleg was that two hundred, so.
- 1:04:17Speaker 1: It was outstanding. And k State is one of three
- 1:04:20Speaker 1: teams tied for first in the Big twelve. I believe
- 1:04:23Speaker 1: they're playing this game today without a Yoka Lee who's
- 1:04:26Speaker 1: scheduled to be back, I think later this week. So
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: you got a chance here and you take your best
- 1:04:33Speaker 1: swing at them. The rare two pm President's Day start
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: at the coliseum, And the neat thing is there's a
- 1:04:41Speaker 1: very strong chance that by the time you're listening to this,
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: you already know what the result of the game is.
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: So we will leave it there and again Mountaineer Baseball,
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: how about that three and zero start for the second
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: time in thirteen years.
- 1:04:52Speaker 2: Great start for Steve Savans. That mark historic thing was
- 1:04:55Speaker 2: back to back twenty win seasons, first time in WVU
- 1:04:59Speaker 2: women's best history that a coach has won back to
- 1:05:02Speaker 2: back twenties in his first two years. Yeah, very good.
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: Really front of the program, Mark Kellogg, very good. So
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: what are we doing the what are we doing the Thursday?
- 1:05:13Speaker 4: No, I meant the get together for the baseball team.
- 1:05:19Speaker 2: Well, you're nineteen state's away. How do we know.
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: We'll figure it out. We'll get there with coach Sabans.
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: Everything's gonna be fine. We're gonna we're gonna get.
- 1:05:28Speaker 4: The volleyball thing too.
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we got yeah, yeah, we've got a
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: branch out there. We're busy. Spring schedule is filling up
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: We're back on Thursday to recap Cincinnati preview our one
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: and only contest against the Red Raiders of Texas Tech
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: and Lubbock on Saturday.
- 1:05:46Speaker 2: That'll be a tough one.
- 1:05:47Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're the real deal man, They are the
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: real deal. All right, we're out, hoppy. Thank you very much.
- 1:05:52Speaker 1: We do appreciate you. From the from the Kerchival Studios.
- 1:05:57Speaker 1: Three Guys before the Game, brought to us by Jan
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: Dill's Anees at Law. They won't take no for an answer.
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: By Comac's Business System, keeping West Virginia's business data safe,
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: secure and efficient for twenty five years. By Gomart. Get
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: a Gomart rewards card immediately start reaping benefits, food, fuel,
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: and whole bunch of stuff. Go to gomart dot com
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: for details. By Lou Wendel Marine Sales in Saint Albans,
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: they sell familyfund. Visit Lou Wendelmarine Sales dot com. By
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: Tutor's Biscuit World starts your day the home Made Way,
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: The three Guys Way with a Tutor's Biscuit spreads on
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: stats presented by Conley's CPA Group, providing value beyond numbers.
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: That'll do it. Stay well, We're back Thursday, three guys
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: before the game, special shout out to our producer. He
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: always consistent. You know, if you put Jake on the following,
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: all he'd do is just make shots, very consistent.
- 1:06:54Speaker 2: Right, just lines up, gets it done.
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: Ninety eight percent free throw shootest executes exactly. All right,
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: you good to see yall. We're out.