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#246: Thanksgiving (2023) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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Hello. What's your least favorite scary
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movie? Mac and Gobachaka, welcome to
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what's your least favorite scary movie?
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The Podcaster. We talk about the good, the bad,
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the ugly, and the absurd in all of our favorite.
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And least favorite? Scary movies.
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Because we believe every horror movie rightfully has its
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fanbase, even. If we don't, I always get it.
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My name is Travis. My name is Jesse and happy
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Thanksgiving. Sorry, started off with a heart
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expletive. Or maybe not.
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Honestly, if you're a returning customer, you know what's up.
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If you're new and you were looking for a wholesome
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Thanksgiving podcast hobby. Gobble, gobble, motherfucker.
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We're not on the coffee today, we're on the beer.
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So it might get even more violent.
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I'm on steroids though. That's even more, yeah, more
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high risk. Not like the bodybuilding
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steroids, but like the my body was betraying me kind of
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steroids and they are fucking me up so badly so.
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It's fine, yeah. OK, OK, OK, announcements.
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We'll start with announcements, so Patreon bonus episode, if
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it's not out already, for our budget tier patrons, it will be
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out this weekend. Yeah, also budget tier patrons.
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You should have already voted by now, but you still have a little
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bit of a window to vote for the December pick.
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Yeah. OK, we're getting Holly and
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Jolly. That's right up in this piece.
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Got a couple of holiday themed movies up there for y'all to
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choose from, yes? So very excited.
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That's it for announcements. So it's time for poll.
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Yeah, 'cause we remembered to do a poll.
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Actually, Jesse remembered to do a poll.
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That's true. Yeah.
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But you know what does is 2A streak or is it 3 when it
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becomes a streak? Either way, we've done it two
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weeks in a row and I'm, I'm fucking riding high on that.
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So yeah, we did our poll on Curse of Chucky last week and
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just wanted to say or I guess check and see if you guys dig
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the new look of Chucky and Curse of Chucky.
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So. Or is it all chucked up?
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Yeah, those steroids are really fucking you up to OK.
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So 21% of people say it works, 79 says they don't care for it.
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I need to talk to 21% of you. I just really want to hear your
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perspective on things. Some people do.
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I've seen people say that they do like the look of it.
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I know and I I want to understand their perspective on
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things. Yeah, I do too.
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I mean, I, I, you know, subjective, it's for, you know,
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he looks different in the TV show too.
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But you know what? I really like that look.
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I love the TV show look. That's one of my favorite Chucky
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looks. So, you know, doesn't have to
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always be the original, but I just, for me, I don't really
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like it. Yeah, but we covered that pretty
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extensively in our episode. So if you want to know our
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thoughts on that, go listen to our Cursor Chucky episode from
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last. Time.
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Yeah, OK. All right, so that's it for
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that. So let's get into some
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Thanksgiving. Yay.
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OK, has they say in the trailer, you gotta get really cautioned,
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OK. We're not talking about the
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trailer, we're talking about the Bull movie.
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It premiered November 17th, 2023.
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We watched it on blah blah blah blah.
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Blah. Because the only other option
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for streaming is Netflix and we don't have the bougie tier where
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you can watch just any old thing on Netflix because they
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gatekeep. Now go on and girl boss the
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gaslight. While you're at it, you can rent
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it on Prime, Google Play, YouTube, or Fandango at home.
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For you, for your Blu-ray home video collectors out there, it's
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a really good release. It is, yeah.
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It's actually, it's fucking solid trailers on it, too.
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They're just like played automatically.
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At first I thought like that the home screen was gonna be the
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fake trailer and I was like, wow.
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That would have been awesome if they did that.
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I'm kind of sad that they didn't now that you said that.
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Well, it was still really good. It was really worth it.
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We've got some interesting things to talk about thanks to
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that stuff. So written by Jeff Rendell and
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Eli Roth, directed by Eli Roth, music by Brandon Roberts.
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Special effects makeups and prosthetics were designed by
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Adrian Moreau and Steve Newburn. Adrian Moreau did the
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prosthetics and Steve Newburn did the makeup.
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Who was the person in the? Adrian.
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Moreau OK, that fucking person's killer.
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I love him. He was amazing.
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I made a lot of notes about him specifically.
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Well, I say a lot of notes. I don't make a ton of notes.
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From that or from the movie? You love his work or you loved
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his featurette. I loved his featurette.
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OK, yeah, I mean, I loved his work too, obviously, but it's
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nice to see the nerd behind the art.
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Always above that, yeah, it's nice.
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OK, starring Patrick Dempsey as Sheriff Eric Newlin, Karen
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Kleish as Kathleen Nelverlak as Jessica Wright, Rick Hoffman as
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Thomas Wright, Jalen Thomas Brooks is Bobby Addison, Ray is
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Gabby, Jenna Warren as Yulia, Gabriel Davenport is Scuba,
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Tommaso Cinelli as Evan Fletcher, Milo Mannheim as Ryan
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and Tonic as Dewey. You got the cat?
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Yeah. What if his name was David
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Arquette? So actually, and I don't know,
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this was on the IMDb trivia section so grain of salt, but
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there are reports that the cat actor was so impressive to Eli
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Roth that he nicknamed it Leonardo DiCaprio.
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I love that. That's.
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Sweet. OK, Chaos.
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Yeah, time for our favorite game.
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Budget or bug, Ted? This feels budget.
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It is, in fact Budget 15,000,000 to be approximate.
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That's really good. That's a good budget.
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That's. Healthy.
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Yeah, opening box office of 10 million and a worldwide gross of
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46,000,000. So it can in fact be considered
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profitable. Awesome IMDb score of 6.2 out of
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10. Good.
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I'm glad that's got a good rating.
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I pulled 3 movies from 2023. OK.
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The theme is Boo capitalism. Boo capitalism.
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Boo urns. Boo urns.
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So the first movie Infinity Pool.
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OK, which we've. Talked about that.
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What's the capitalism amount? I mean those rich assholes just
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throwing their money at all their problems.
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Oh yeah, I forgot that. They just buy lives.
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Yeah, yeah, that's right. I forgot about that.
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So that premiered January 27th, 2023.
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I don't have a budget, but I have a worldwide gross of four
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point 5.2 million and an IMDb score of 6.0 out of 10.
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That's got a six. Damn, do you?
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Mean damn in a good or a bad way?
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I'm mixed on that one, I know. If you wanna hear all of
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Travis's mixed opinions on it, you can listen to that episode.
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We've covered it. It's not controversial to be
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mixed on that one. I know it's not saying it is.
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Yeah. But I feel like I, I see a lot
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of like overwhelming positivity for that movie out there and.
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I personally love it. Yeah, I know it, it has its
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moments. It's it's, it's got its
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strengths. It's also got its weaknesses.
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I introduced one of our friends to the phrase pretentious little
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sad boy when referring to Skarsgard's character and he's
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like, you know what? Never heard that before, but
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it's accurate now. I know.
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He is a sad boy. Yeah, second movie.
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It's a wonderful knife. Oh yeah, I remember the
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capitalism for that one. It's Justin Long, you fucking
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asshole. There he is in horror movies.
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Justin Long, Justin longing. Yeah, trying to buy Christmas
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some shit like that. That released December 1st,
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2023. Again, I don't have a budget,
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but I have a gross of 1.3 million and an IMDb score of
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5.2. That was a small release.
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It was a small release. Very, very limited.
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I am very excited to revisit that movie this year.
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Yeah, it was a fun movie. I liked it.
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I remember having a good time with it.
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Yeah, and then finally saw X. Or saw X.
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Oh yeah, the doctor. Yeah, fuck her.
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That released September 29th, 2023.
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Budget of 13 million and a worldwide gross of 112 million.
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Nice IMDb score of 6.6 out of 10.
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Dude I'm glad that the Saw movies just continue to just
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fucking dominate when they release.
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They're always like, oh, what up, bitches?
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Yeah, what's so up? You know Tobin Bell.
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It's gonna be. Yeah, Costas is here too.
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When I say Costas, you say Mandalore Costas.
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Rico Costas Rico. All right, we're moving on to
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tag lines. There will be no leftovers.
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That's it. That's.
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The only one is that. The seriously, Huh.
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You know, I mean, I like it, but I I'm surprised that they didn't
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do any others. I'm gonna say though, it was
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really funny when I posted, like you know the thing I posted
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where to watch? I couldn't fit the date above
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the tagline on the poster, so it's underneath.
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So it says there will be no leftovers on November 28th.
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So it's like. Nobody's getting leftovers from
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Thanksgiving this year. That's.
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Good. OK, I have some fun facts.
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OK. So Eli and Jeff are actually
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childhood friends. You're up in Massachusetts where
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Thanksgiving is a huge fucking deal.
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And also, Eli may or may not have been a tiny little
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sociopath that was always pretending to kill his brother
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with his stolen camera from his father.
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That's. What you do, that's what you do.
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Yeah, Yeah. I respect it.
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Yeah, I respect it. So what I'm saying, though, is
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that they've been planning demented shit since they were
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young. Oh yeah, Riding it out and
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shooting it and whatnot. And then in 2007 they did that
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fake trailer for Grindhouse and basically this has been in
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production since. I'm glad that that's a thing
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that they continued to try and do because I remember when that
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first came out, everybody's like, I want to fucking see that
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movie. He's like, I'm trying to make
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this fucking movie. Yeah.
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And then they like, it was a decade later and you hadn't
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heard anything. And then finally, yeah, I'm so
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glad that we got it. Yeah.
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Also if you want to see those home movies that he did, they've
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got a couple of them on the Blu-ray release, if you get
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that. So.
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So very much Eli Roth has a philosophy of making a movie he
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wants to see. That is his sole focus.
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He's like, what kind of twisted, sick shit would I want to watch?
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And that's what he makes. And what I said that I really
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liked about Adrian Moreau, he has the same kind of philosophy
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with special effects because he's like, well, this is my job,
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but it's also my hobby. You know, It's like, I'll just
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be sitting at home and I'll just be playing around with stuff.
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And, you know, I think about, like, what kind of gross effects
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would I want to see? And I would have put that on
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screen. And Eli's the same way, Yeah.
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I like to say he's like, you know what, The things that he
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was asking me to do in this movie I would be doing at home
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anyway. So yeah, I also, I love the
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other approach because I mean, I feel like everybody should be
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making things that they want to. I hate that there are people out
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there that just do shit just for the sake of doing a movie to try
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and make money. Yeah, make the shit that you
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want. Yes, and I think that it
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definitely paid off if you have the same kind of sensibilities
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as him when it comes to horror. Yeah.
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So that being said, the effects were practical and a lot of the
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cast were saying like, no, he like he was so good that you
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didn't need to add anything else.
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There were some shots in here that actually surprised me that
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I thought were digital whenever. And then we saw that featurette
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and I'm like, oh shit, that was real.
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Yeah, You could see some of the stuff that was like happening as
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it was happening. And it was kind of interesting
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to see, like the one scene where he cuts off the guy's head in
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the apartment. Like you can see the head being
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yanked away front with a. Yeah, that was good.
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The one that really surprised me was the one where the woman gets
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cut in half with the dumpster. Oh yeah.
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Because I thought that that was digitally done, but then I saw
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like there was an outtake of it fucking up.
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Yeah, the car hit it and it took way too long, Yeah, to close.
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Yeah, that and also Evan's head when he's getting it smashed.
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Yeah, that was the fucking actual real dummy head of him.
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Yeah. It was really well made.
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Yes, this was shot in Ontario from March 13th to May 5th,
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2023. And guess what?
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Good news, a sequel has already been greenlit.
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Yay. The final script was ready in
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August 2024 and they're planning for a 2025 release date.
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So far, Nel Verlac, Rick Hoffman and Addison Ray are all rumoured
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to be returning. Alright, who is who from that
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again? Jessica Thomas and Gabby.
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Fuck, yeah. OK, yeah, Thomas, his actor
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Rick, yes, he is like a frequent collaborator.
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I think he was in one of the hostile movies.
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He. Was in the first one who was the
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one who that burns the girl's face cuz he was like should I
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just go in there should I just. Shoot.
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Her or Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.
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Yeah. It's got a very distinct face.
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Yes. Hard to forget.
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Yes, very much. It's actually weird.
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His IMDb profile page right now, he doesn't have the mustache or
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any facial hair or any head hair.
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It's different. I mean he didn't have the
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mustache in hostel either. I just feel like he looks
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different though. He looks different now but also
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it's been how many years since hostel came out Maybe like.
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Two decades, but yeah. Yeah.
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OK, I have this really cool quote that actually popped up in
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my memories that I shared around the time this came out last
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year, so. Interesting.
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I think that's fun. Let me pull it up.
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This is a quote that he gave to Total Film.
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When I'm watching Alien, I don't care about the crew.
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I'm watching Jones the cat. I don't care if everybody dies,
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as long as that cat gets off the ship and away from that alien.
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So I like that little quote and it explains that scene very,
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very well. Oh my.
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God I fuck it. That's one of my favorite scenes
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with the cat, Dewey and this. It's amazing.
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When that happened in the theater, I lost my shit.
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Yeah, cuz like we were all sitting there going on.
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Love the cat. Yeah, it feeds him like, yeah.
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And then the rest I have. So there were a lot of deleted
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scenes. Some of them were just extended,
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some of them were alternate cuts, but I wrote down some of
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the ones that I felt like really added some pieces that like
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maybe necessarily weren't missing from the final product
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of the movie, but does give a little bit fleshes out the
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character some. So the first one is that Jessica
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and Evan, they stole a card from the back of Mitch's van and they
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gave it to Eric because the handwriting on the card looked
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very similar to the place writings on the dinner.
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Dinner table sets, Place settings, Place settings.
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Also he had the mask and the hat in his van also.
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Yeah, So she she gives that to him.
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She's like, hey, this looks similar.
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He goes, OK, cool. I will, you know, have a
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handwriting analyst look at it. And later he even makes a point
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of being like, Yep, the handwriting's a perfect match.
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But guess what? I lit it up or No, he did very
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cheesy dialogue and I loved it. He was like the handwriting was
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a very perfect match, much like the one I used to burn up the
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card the second like you left my office.
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That also led to him being interrogated too, which I think
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was an extended or all deleted scene at least.
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Yes. I don't think that that was
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that's not an actual movie. Yes.
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And that I, that was the next one I was gonna bring.
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So they're at Mitch's house because between the card and
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there was like a blotter at the the John Carver Museum thing
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with his name written in. So they go to question Mitch
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about all of this, and he kind of confronts him.
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It was like, you know, when Lisa left you, you slept on our couch
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for months. Like we were always there for
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you. But then Amanda dies and I've
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seen you three times and one of them is right now.
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And so they have like a little bit of back and forth and it
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really kind of fleshes out the deterioration of their
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relationship and kind of sets that groundwork for the ultimate
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reveal of who the killer is and what the motive is.
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So I think that was that is the one thing that I think I would
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have liked to see left in, just because I feel like Mitch really
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kind of gets forgotten about through most of the movie.
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Yeah, also during that, I mean, not like it's super important,
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but there's a whole character that's cut out.
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It's this the guy that has the book?
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There, Yeah, the like museum curator person.
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If if I were him and I went to go watch that movie, I would be
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pissed. Yeah.
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Like my my scenes, I'm uncut entirely from the movie.
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I like he guided that whole thing.
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I know he even knew the tunnels. Yeah, he he told them how to get
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to the tunnels. And then he's cut.
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Little guy and then finally we have Gabby pep talking Evan.
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So after the game against Hanover is cancelled, at first
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he's like saying that he's really upset because this is
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where college scouts come out and it was very important.
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And then he kind of has like this break cuz this whole time
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he's been this like really like brutish type, right?
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And then he's finally like, you know, this, I feel like this is
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my fault because I put that video up and the people that
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were in that video are the ones that are dying like, and you
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finally see him like have some self-awareness, which I think
17:45
was a nice moment. And also you get a little bit of
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insight to his and Gabby's relationship because she like
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for a minute she's like, hey, you're fine.
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And she goes, OK, stop being a pussy.
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We're gonna go to the locker room, I'm gonna give you a
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handy, and we're gonna walk out of here.
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The cops are here for us like. Yep.
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So. And also extends the scene with
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them getting captured because in the actual movie it just cuts to
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him getting him and then it cuts to black.
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But here you just actually see him knock them out and then push
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her up against the wall and put her in like a container.
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Yeah, he puts her in the, like, laundry container, which I think
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would have made the reveal of her phone later, but a little
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bit more dramatic. So we'd be like, oh shit, her
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body's in there, but it actually is.
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And it's just. Yeah, yeah, that would have been
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interesting. So that's all I have, by the
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way, of fun facts. Which means that it is time for
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our fun facts, which are really just fun opinions in our good,
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bad, ugly and absurd. Yay.
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OK, so I guess I've started since you did all that.
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Indeed all. Right.
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Well, I I fucking love this movie.
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This movie is such a nice little throwback to all of the slashers
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that I love. It pays homage to Halloween in a
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big way. There's so many scenes that are
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just straight up from Halloween. It's really interesting.
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Also, like another thing I guess that you didn't touch on from
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your fun facts, but I like the way that they handled this.
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And he says that the way that he approached this is that it's a
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remake. Somebody doing a studio remake
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of that trailer of that movie. The the story behind this, I
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guess kind of in universe, if you're buying into the story
19:25
that was planted from there, that movie is long lost, can't
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be found. That's just you have the trailer
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and that's it. So this is somebody doing a
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remake of it. So I think that that's kind of
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cool. Yeah.
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And once you notice or, you know, that you can kind of pick
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up on how he kind of handled and approached this movie because
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you get some moments from those scenes, but they're a little bit
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altered. Yeah.
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But they're also like the exactly the same.
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Yeah, it's like the cheerleader scene, like it's still very
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brutal and vicious, but it's a little less NC 17.
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Yeah, and also with the parade, Like, you see, the person in the
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Turkey costume still get their head chopped off, but it's not
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in the Pilgrim outfit this time. Because if you watch the trailer
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and you're looking for that, you're going to expect that.
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But it's the fucking clown, yes, Which I think is a really cool
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diversion. Yes, absolutely.
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So yeah, I mean, that was awesome.
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I like the killer a lot. I you know, if you're doing a
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Thanksgiving inspired movie, it's it would be kind of
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difficult to pick exactly who the killer would be if you're
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trying to keep it in theme. I love it because it feels like
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the joke would be like, oh, you're gonna do a Thanksgiving
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horror movie? Who's the bad guy?
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It's gonna be? Is it gonna be a Turkey?
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Is it gonna be a Pilgrim? And I love that he just leaned
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right the fuck into it. Cuz that's, again, that's the
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type of movie that Eli Roth likes.
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Exactly. Yeah.
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Also, like you said before, he grew up there.
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So he's like, yes, so in tune with the history of the whole
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holiday and how people celebrate there.
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They go hard. He probably knows the historical
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figures. John Carver, not on my radar,
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But you know what? I like him as a killer.
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Yeah, as like a killer icon in here.
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The little mask is cool, too. Yeah.
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The opening to this movie is fantastic.
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Sets the tone perfectly. Yes.
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I like that they include some Black Friday action in there,
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too. And, yeah, I mean, that's pretty
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much it. Like, I just.
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This movie's awesome. I love it.
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Yes, so I, there are a lot of things in this that I love that
21:35
cold open with the, the Black Friday Stampede, I think is just
21:40
absolutely excellent because those videos are some of the
21:45
scariest shit for me to watch on YouTube.
21:47
Yeah, and Travis will tell you that's how we spend a lot of our
21:49
free time is just watching scary shit on YouTube.
21:51
But watching Black Friday Stampedes, it scares the hell
21:55
out of me because nothing is worse than like an out of
21:59
control crowd. And I think that was such a good
22:02
way to start this off. And it really juxtaposes the
22:04
whole thing about like, oh, Thanksgiving supposed to be
22:06
about thanks fullness. But we have like all of this
22:08
going on. But it's also uncovering some of
22:10
the like the grosser details of our intimate relationships,
22:16
right, 'cause like, he wasn't actually upset about all of the
22:20
loss of life. He was upset about the loss of
22:23
Juna Gershon, just her, you know, and, and, and because he
22:27
was helping her cheat on her husband.
22:30
And that's like icky and gross. And we've got.
22:33
Were they cheating? Yeah, I think that his she was.
22:35
Pregnant with his baby. Oh, right, right, right.
22:38
Yeah, yeah. Poof, man.
22:40
Yeah. I like how that sorry, I was
22:46
going to say I just like how that was basically the worst
22:49
possible way that that could have went down that we see there
22:53
yes, like you see some of these people die some of the most
22:56
visceral deaths. Yes, the guy getting his neck
22:58
cut on the blow eye broken glass Shard.
23:01
And he's still wandering over to that pallet to grab the last.
23:04
Waffle iron that it's the first one, but like that one just gets
23:07
me because like he's not able to control.
23:10
He's being pushed in by the crowd and it just Nixon, he
23:12
can't control his path. Also, I'm just gonna say this.
23:16
That's not even like the fancy hotel flippy Belgian waffle iron
23:19
type. It is a standard waffle iron.
23:21
You can get one for $20. It was not worth all of this.
23:25
Yeah, like I think we have the same waffle iron.
23:28
Yeah, also the thing with Amanda, when the buggy hits her
23:31
head and then it gets stuck to her hair and just pulls a chunk
23:35
of her scalp. Also, yeah, if he's gonna be
23:37
that mad about it, just take it out on Lizzie.
23:40
That was her cart and if you'll notice, Lizzie is the only one
23:44
that got the like a truly symbolic death because she got
23:48
frozen to the freezer door and had her face ripped off.
23:52
I that felt the most vengeful in that way.
23:57
Yeah, I could see that, yeah. And then also, if you think
23:59
about it, the only other one that really gets as brutal is
24:02
Kathleen's. She's the one that deleted the
24:04
videotapes that prevented any kind of justice from happening.
24:07
So. True.
24:10
So we've got that going on. I the effects are just amazing
24:14
and I like that we had a million different ways that people get
24:19
like gored up in here. Some are real simple, some take
24:23
a little bit of time. They all feel thematic in their
24:26
own ways. Yeah, I like the kids
24:29
conversations in the van especially or the Jeep or
24:33
whatever. Especially like on the in the
24:34
opening on the way to the store and like they're all bickering
24:37
and then at one point like the song drops and I'll go.
24:40
Oh shit, I love that. Like I just, I, I really like
24:45
it. I think it's a good watch.
24:47
It's a fun time. I was almost sad that we were
24:49
watching to take notes last night 'cause I just wanted to
24:51
watch it. We.
24:52
Can throw it on again. Before Thanksgiving.
24:54
This. I mean, it's also just an
24:55
incredibly well shot movie. Yes.
24:58
I did the the set pieces are amazing.
25:00
I got there's just so much good about this movie.
25:03
It honestly, it didn't have any right to be as good as it is.
25:06
No, I'd I was bamboozled coming out of the theater.
25:10
I was like, this is not what I expected from Eli Roth, but it
25:13
still feels like an Eli Roth movie.
25:15
I think everybody came in with low expectations and high hopes,
25:21
low expectations, and then it just kind of exceeded.
25:24
Yeah, very well done. All right.
25:26
You got any other goods? I think that's the the long and
25:30
the short of it. OK, all right, on to bad.
25:34
And I don't really have much bad to say, but I will say I think
25:40
it would have been kind of cool to see this made in the style
25:46
and vibe of the trailer. OK.
25:48
I like the idea of doing it as a remake.
25:51
That's cool. It makes sense, but I also think
25:56
I want to see that original movie too.
25:59
That movie just Oh my God, it's that is also shot well.
26:04
It's it's got great moments, great set pieces.
26:08
It looks awesome. I don't know.
26:10
I I really, really want to watch that.
26:12
I get what you're saying, I feel what you're putting out there.
26:17
However, I do like that Eli pushed himself a little bit to
26:24
not go full grindhouse the way he normally would like be want
26:29
to. So I think it was just like I
26:31
said, I think it was nice to see something still very much him,
26:34
but also different. I think his style is evolved.
26:37
Yeah, Really. I don't think he's doing the
26:39
same type of movies he did before.
26:41
You know, he's he's he's able to make the other like this is
26:44
like, I think actually his first slasher.
26:47
Yeah, I didn't actually think of.
26:49
I think he said that in one of the featurettes too, where like
26:51
this was the first time that they really wanted to make a
26:53
whodunit. Yeah, because.
26:55
He hadn't really done that before.
26:58
Yeah, because there are pretty much his whole thing has been
27:00
like body horror and then he did some of the torture stuff.
27:03
Yeah, yeah. So OK, what's your bad?
27:07
My bad is, I guess like there's just there are so many
27:10
characters in this and so many of them have like enough
27:15
relevance to the plot that I feel like it's a little bit
27:18
overwhelming at times and we don't get to get more of the
27:21
characters that I would love to get more of.
27:24
Who would you want more of? I feel like it it would be nice
27:27
to see Kathleen fleshed out just a little bit more, kind of give
27:31
us a little bit more range to her character because she starts
27:34
and ends as the wicked stepmother, you know, kind of.
27:37
Yeah. Scuba.
27:39
He really shines once half of the high school kids are dead or
27:43
tranquilized. He makes it further than most of
27:47
them. And honestly?
27:48
Actually, all of them. A lot more of Yulia's dad.
27:52
I I wish they hadn't cut out that scene where they make a
27:55
joke about him. Like where she's like, he's not
27:57
a mobster. He's so very fucking clearly.
27:59
A mobster. I like, I would have loved more
28:01
of that. That's what I'm saying.
28:03
Like all of these interesting characters are introduced and I
28:05
want just like a little bit more of each of them.
28:08
And I feel like we would have to do that at the expense of
28:10
cutting other characters. So like Mccarty's character, yes
28:14
I understand he gives the ring that ultimately gets them loose,
28:18
but other than that I feel like he's not needed in the movie at
28:21
all. He's.
28:23
More Comic Relief, but there's enough comedy interwoven in the
28:26
movie already anyway that I don't feel like he's needed.
28:29
Yeah, yeah, they also had many the security guard.
28:36
He was. Comic Relief.
28:37
Also, yeah, he's an actual comedian.
28:40
Yeah, he's a very short. I get why he's in there because,
28:44
you know, they only hired the two security guards.
28:46
The one that stayed gets killed, the other one that doesn't stay
28:49
gets revenge murdered and we get the cat.
28:52
So. Yeah, I feel like his his
28:54
presence was as long as it needed to be.
28:57
Same with Lizzie. Yeah, like I feel like those
28:59
characters were utilized just the right amount, but there were
29:01
some side characters and even some main characters that I felt
29:04
like either needed to be more side or more mane.
29:07
But like, it was just I needed a little bit more balance with the
29:11
amount of characters we get. I got you.
29:13
OK, Glee. Well.
29:18
I was like, Glee isn't one of our categories.
29:21
Is that how you're saying Glee? Glee, really the only thing I
29:29
have for ugly is the Black Friday madness.
29:31
The consumerism, you know, it's it kicks off the events of the
29:38
movie. And also a year later, you get
29:40
Thomas, who's still like, Oh yeah, we're still doing this
29:43
shit like a year later at that store where all of this shit
29:46
happened. He's like, yeah, we're going to
29:47
do that again. And I mean, he ultimately calls
29:50
it off because of his daughter, But you know, he has a change of
29:53
heart. But at the same time, you know,
29:55
he wanted to and he like initially he was like, no, like
29:58
fucking money. Well, and he wasn't even, it
30:01
hadn't been his idea to open Thanksgiving night the year
30:04
before either, but Kathleen pushed him to.
30:06
Yeah, yeah, I will agree with you on that.
30:11
Ugly. And here's the wild thing is
30:14
that I think people sometimes I, I feel like people should get
30:17
off the Internet. But some of these commenters.
30:20
So when I was reading reviews, trying to find a good, like
30:22
review, because I know how we feel about this.
30:24
So I was reading more of the negative reviews to find a
30:27
balanced take on why somebody might not like it.
30:30
And a lot of them were saying like, it's just unrealistic
30:32
people wouldn't die in this. And I was like.
30:35
Die in the Black Friday. Yeah, I was like bro.
30:39
There's like a document. This shit happens, Yes, Yeah,
30:42
it's a That's why Black Fridays are so like, honestly, it's kind
30:48
of like an evil corporate machine.
30:49
It doesn't need to exist and like.
30:52
I think it's more it's not as bad now because it's primarily
30:57
online. Yes, and I feel such a sense of
31:02
relief right now because like the Amazon Black Friday is going
31:06
on for a full week. So not only do I not have to go
31:09
somewhere and fight somebody for it, but I also have time to like
31:12
think on larger purchases. We we've actually had this
31:15
conversation about like something I was considering
31:18
getting and you're like, it's not a lightning deal.
31:19
You've got until Thanksgiving to decide if you want to get this
31:23
or. Not actually past Thanksgiving.
31:24
You know. Black Fridays after
31:26
Thanksgiving. Oh, I thought their.
31:28
Thing went until the 28th, does it go till the 20?
31:30
9th it's past. I checked the dates, yeah.
31:32
Yeah. So like it's a little bit better
31:34
these days, but it's still happening.
31:36
Like it's still being started in stores on Thanksgiving night.
31:40
And I just I don't understand. Cuz the sales.
31:44
Honestly, they're not even that great.
31:46
Like if you're doing. It depends.
31:48
Some of them are. Some of them are, but like some
31:51
of them, is it worth like missing out on being with your
31:55
family or whatever traditions you might have or just being
31:57
comfortable in your own home and to go be around a crowd that
32:01
could potentially get violent? The thing that I think is the
32:04
worst is making people work on these holidays.
32:06
Yeah. So that was what I was going to
32:08
get to next. Yeah, like so.
32:10
Well, you can call me shit or a hypocrite or whatever, but there
32:14
is some fun to it. I have had some fond memories of
32:17
doing events like that with family before.
32:20
But, you know, I never on Thanksgiving itself, always on
32:23
like that Friday. But yeah, I mean, you know, if
32:29
it were like pick between these people, get to have time off
32:34
with their loved ones or you get to go out and get an awesome
32:37
deal, I would choose for other people to be able to spend time
32:40
with other people, obviously. Yes.
32:42
And that was the thing that would kill me when I was a
32:44
server. And I'd work on like any given
32:47
holiday. And they'd be like, oh, why
32:48
aren't you celebrating the holiday?
32:50
And I'd be like, because you're here, Yeah, you're here right
32:54
now. Is this a serious question, you
32:56
asshole? It like I you can't have it both
33:02
ways. You can't say people should be
33:04
celebrating the holidays with their loved ones and then also
33:06
go and patronize a a restaurant or a store and be like, like,
33:12
it's a shame people aren't spending the day with their
33:14
loved ones. Well, you're making the demand
33:16
for this. You are meeting the demand.
33:18
So they have to have employees there.
33:20
And it sucks for those employees that can't afford to say no no.
33:26
OK, I think we've set a piece on that.
33:28
So let's go on to absurd. Absurd.
33:32
OK. First off, Evan's YouTube video,
33:36
I love his editing style. Yeah, he's got the in the
33:41
special features. You get to watch the full video.
33:43
So that was fun. I like how he has like these
33:46
little like, it's a very terrible moment for that town
33:50
for a lot of people, but he's making such a light.
33:54
He's he's just like making fun of the whole thing.
33:58
And the best part about it is it's really poorly done too.
34:01
Yeah. Like it's peak.
34:03
Like I'm 17 and I think I'm awesome.
34:06
Yeah, and I love the end of it. Like it's like subscribe.
34:13
That got Scout's attention. Every time it happened she was
34:16
like. It's So what am I?
34:17
Subscribing to I'm here for. It it's so insensitive.
34:21
One of the others is whenever Ryan goes goes to check just
34:26
whenever she had attacked or was attacked and Bobby was there and
34:30
had her his jacket on her. Jacket just over her shoulders
34:33
like and here's the thing. I didn't mention this in my good
34:35
and I need to get this out right now so I don't forget it.
34:38
Bobby handled the breakup poorly, just ghosting her and
34:43
then he comes back to town and he's like, hey, I'm still your
34:47
friend. Like and I thought it was a nice
34:49
mature moment of them taught. That was a nice mature moment.
34:53
He didn't try anything actively, right?
34:56
Like it's not like he was like putting moves on her.
34:59
But then him and Ryan are button heads the whole time.
35:02
But like he does eventually at the end, he's like be happy with
35:05
Ryan. Like I think it it would have
35:07
been handled a lot worse by different directors.
35:11
Well, isn't that surprising from Eli Roth.
35:14
I know it actually really is, yeah.
35:16
I he was definitely trying to get with her still just yeah,
35:22
like, absolutely. Yeah, I'm not saying that there
35:24
wasn't like, you know. But anyways, back to the absurd
35:28
moment when he is over there to comfort her, he just like goes
35:31
over there to hug her and casually in one motion just
35:34
brushes off the jacket making her cold.
35:37
And he doesn't fucking care because like in his mind he just
35:40
doesn't want Bobby anywhere around her.
35:43
It's just so funny. I love how flawless it is.
35:46
That's how seamless, Yeah. So yeah, I mean, that was pretty
35:50
much it. OK, Maya, Absurd is going to be
35:54
when he's down there and he's got the voice modulator on and
35:57
it's like a wireless headset and it's coming through the mask.
36:03
They would hear Sheriff Newland like underneath the mask, like
36:07
it's not gonna be perfect that they're only hearing the
36:10
voicemail cuz he's getting right in some of their faces.
36:12
Do you have these same complaints for Scream?
36:15
Because I feel like if you're gonna complain about it here,
36:17
you gotta complain about it and Scream.
36:19
That's fair. Yeah, I'm just, I'm just
36:22
throwing it. Out there, Yeah.
36:23
No, I get you. Yeah, yeah.
36:24
I mean, his whole thing is he has like the fucking headset on
36:26
and he's got like the microphone in front of his mouth.
36:29
I love it when he comes out there with that headset.
36:32
It's his full it's Britney bitch moment.
36:35
Like that's how it feels. Also, yeah, it's kind of
36:38
interesting because the whole movie he's a silent killer, but
36:41
then at the end he's like, you're Frank screaming.
36:44
I love it because we get our back the guy's speech, like the
36:47
evil villain speech. Yeah, it's not something.
36:50
You expect of the silent killers is you can't get the
36:53
overdramatic villain speech. What do you think Michael would
36:55
say? Oh, wait.
37:02
Write the movie, Travis. Write the movie.
37:06
I'm giving this a fucking 9 1/2. I love this movie it is so good.
37:11
This is, I mean it obviously gonna be a Thanksgiving
37:15
tradition for us, but for sure I mean potential for non
37:19
Thanksgiving viewing also. It's.
37:22
Just good. Same with Halloween.
37:23
Yeah, I will give this a nine because I think it's a very
37:26
fantastic movie. Cool, So 925. 925.
37:30
Average. All right, Cool.
37:32
OK. Are we ready to do this?
37:34
We are ready to do this. OK.
37:37
So we start off Plymouth, MA Thanksgiving.
37:40
We had a POV shot of walking up to the house.
37:42
Very much Halloween 1978. Very much the opening, yeah,
37:46
it's a straight up amash to it. And we have Eric.
37:51
He's a cop. He is joining Thanksgiving with
37:55
Mitch. Mitch and Amanda.
37:57
Sorry, I was just gonna say Gina Gershon's family.
38:00
And I. Was like I need to get the
38:01
actual character names. Out.
38:03
I like how he goes to the door after he says yeah we're looking
38:06
for a suspect. He's 15 lbs gold, brown
38:09
complexion. For a minute I was confused.
38:12
It was like. Is a cat, is a dog like what we
38:14
talking about here, Turkey? Right, well.
38:17
I. Thought it was a baby so.
38:22
I'm gonna do that next time we go to one of our, I guess, see
38:25
our nieces and nephews. It's so funny.
38:30
So yeah, they're going over there.
38:31
They're having Thanksgiving dinner, got the whole family,
38:35
Jess and Thomas, and all of them are there too.
38:38
No, this is a separate. They're separate houses.
38:40
They're separate. It's not super clear at first.
38:42
It's not OK. I yeah, I was so.
38:43
This one is at Mitch's house, and it's contract.
38:46
We figure it out later because when it cuts over to Thomas's
38:50
new house, it's a mansion. The mayor is there.
38:53
His new fiance, who sold him the house is there.
38:56
Jesse. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
38:58
And Kathleen is very upset that Jess is wearing jeans and a
39:00
sweater and she's like, it's Thanksgiving in my own home.
39:03
This is what I'm wearing. Bobby's there, he's the star
39:07
baseball pitcher, and they're going to go meet for a movie.
39:11
Cut back to the other house. Mitch gets a call.
39:13
He has to go into work because somebody else called in.
39:17
Yeah, he's security. Yeah, no, he's the manager.
39:21
Mitch is. Oh, OK, yeah.
39:23
Got him. I'm just dropping a ball in this
39:25
whole entire. Opening, aren't I?
39:27
Good thing you have me here. Yeah, OK, so Eric comes over.
39:32
Oh, wait. No, fuck me.
39:33
No, I'm fucking it up even more. Let me.
39:35
Do this just and Bobby go outside.
39:37
Evan is picking them up with the rest of their friends.
39:39
They're talking about how they had a fight with some Hanover
39:42
kids he punched. One of them thinks his name is
39:45
Lonnie. Yeah, I love it.
39:46
He's like, oh man, we should have recorded it too.
39:48
And then yeah, fucking Yuli. It's.
39:52
Like Yulia? Yulia yeah, I think like his
39:56
phone got fucked up in the fight, yes.
39:58
So he is wanting to swing by the store real quick to pick up a
40:02
new phone. Yes, they're supposed to be
40:04
going to see a movie and everybody's like, do we need
40:06
this? He's like, I need my phone and
40:08
Yulia's like. Plus, Evan owes me a new
40:10
lipstick. I want more on the story.
40:13
Why does he owe her lipstick? What happened?
40:16
Yeah, for real. Also his rationale for is yeah I
40:20
gotta text my girlfriend during the movie, how else am I gonna
40:23
do that? I need a new phone.
40:25
Fucking asshole. So they pull in and God such an
40:28
asshole. They pull in the exit part of
40:30
the parking lot, park in the handicapped spot, and then Jess
40:36
lets them all in the back entrance because the she owns
40:39
the story. No, they run into Ryan for.
40:41
A Yes, Ryan's there. He clearly has a thing for Jess.
40:47
Bobby clearly understands this blocks them off from talking.
40:52
And his like friend is giving him shit.
40:53
I get vibes of Ryan's friend from New York for this guy here
40:58
my. God.
40:59
Yeah, you can see that. Yeah.
41:01
Yeah, and he's like trying really hard to invite her to
41:03
like a post Thanksgiving party. And she's like, Bobby's in town
41:07
for the weekend only. And he's like, yeah, but I mean,
41:09
you can come by like a couple. Of times you can hang out and.
41:13
Forget. Bobby and all kinds of shit like
41:14
that. Maybe kids.
41:15
Maybe kids? So, yeah, they sneak in to the
41:19
side there and they go inside there and they are taunting all
41:22
of the people they see the guy that he, Evan and Scuba got in a
41:26
fight with out there too, wanting.
41:27
Yeah. So they're taunting him from
41:29
inside the store. Yeah, and then Lizzie's out
41:32
there. She's getting real irate.
41:33
She wants that waffle iron. Why do you want the waffle iron,
41:36
Lizzie? Just make waffles at work.
41:38
You work at a diner, baby. You want to do it at home too?
41:42
I just feel like she can make the diner waffles and bring them
41:44
home because she doesn't have to make a mess in her own kitchen.
41:46
Not fresh and she'd be stealing from her employer.
41:49
Yeah, so the people are getting really restless with them being
41:54
in there. So they start to push past the
41:57
barrier and they are up against the door and they're like, OK,
42:02
we got to open the door, we got to let him in.
42:04
It's creating a crowd crush situation.
42:07
And Doug, poor little Doug, he was not meant to be a security
42:10
for a crowd this size. Nobody has all and it seems like
42:14
maybe they're contracted security.
42:16
So he's got this huge ring of rings or keys, and he's trying
42:20
to find the one that unlocks the door.
42:22
They're pushing and pressing in. The other security guard, Manny,
42:27
runs away and then the door caves in.
42:33
It crashes Doug underneath it. One of the like people in the
42:37
crowd gets his throat slit. Like a Shard of glass that's
42:40
sticking out from that. Yeah.
42:42
And he pushes right through it. Oh my.
42:43
God. And so Amanda and Eric are both
42:48
there. They decided they were going to
42:49
bring food to Mitch since he missed out on dinner.
42:52
And Amanda gets hit immediately. And when she falls to the
42:56
ground, she gets hit by a cart and a piece of her scalp gets
43:00
torn off by the wheel and Lizzie continuing to push it.
43:03
And you know she had to know something was stuck there
43:06
because God, if you look at a shopping cartwheel the wrong
43:10
way, it stops working. And this had flesh in it.
43:13
She even made a comment to her, I think, after that.
43:16
So yeah, she was fully aware of what was happening there.
43:20
So yeah, that happened. That one guy that got his neck
43:22
nicked stumbled over to the waffle.
43:25
He's still trying to get it. But he ends up bleeding out.
43:29
Bobby and Jess are like hidden by a display and Bobby sees that
43:34
Doug is still breathing and he wants to go help them because it
43:37
seems like the crowd has thinned out.
43:38
And then we get an ouchie. Yeah.
43:43
There are far more bends in his arm than there should because he
43:46
he decides he's going to crawl over.
43:48
Bold move, and as he does, somebody steps on his forearm,
43:52
basically. Yeah, and just snaps his arm in
43:55
half. Yeah, goodbye 96 mile per hour.
43:58
Fastball. So Eric, in a panic, just takes
44:00
his gun out and fires around into the ceiling.
44:02
Question. Yeah, because he watched a lot
44:04
of baseball. Is 96 mph a good fastball?
44:07
Yeah. OK.
44:08
I mean, yeah, like that's a professional level speed right
44:12
there. Thank you.
44:13
Just wanted to make sure. It sounds impressive because I
44:15
don't feel like I throw that fast but I wanted to understand
44:19
the scale. The fastest I ever experienced
44:21
in high school was in the 60s. OK.
44:23
Yeah, OK. Like that you had to bat or
44:26
that. You had to bat pitch.
44:27
Yeah, I pitched in a Little League, but yeah, that wasn't a
44:30
good pitch here. It's just like somebody's got to
44:33
do it. Who else?
44:36
But Travis, my dad was the coach at the time.
44:40
So, hey, I earned my shit, OK? I'm a second baseman, though.
44:43
That's my that's my position. But yeah, so he just fires
44:47
around and then we get the title card at Thanksgiving.
44:49
And then it's one year later. And it cuts to the video that
44:54
Evan uploaded onto the Internet. I will say the funniest bit in
44:58
this is the fact that he calls it Fight Mart.
45:00
Yeah, I know. But yeah, yeah.
45:02
That that was, that was clever. And the video was honestly
45:05
funny, like if it was not such a tragic event, it would be kind.
45:08
Of I think what makes it funny is that it's so cringe humor,
45:12
kind of like the stuff he's putting over top of it is like
45:15
cringy. I like it.
45:17
I mean, they're like, yeah, it's funny.
45:20
Like honestly if his YouTube video was him just uploading all
45:25
of his fights I would watch that shit.
45:27
Well, to be fair, you watched a lot of street fight videos.
45:31
Exactly. Yeah.
45:32
And he was big on it. He's oh man, we should have
45:34
recorded that fight that he, he's fucking into that.
45:36
So you and Evan in another world could have been Bros.
45:39
Tight. OK.
45:40
Yeah, for sure. You would have met through Bobby
45:43
on the baseball team. Yeah, probably.
45:45
There we go. We've just written.
45:46
Written the world. Or we've written me into the
45:51
Yeah. Eli.
45:52
Thanksgiving Thanksgiving 2. Thanksgiving 2.
45:58
So, yeah, it's PO Visha. It's the killer we're assuming
46:03
watching the video, and he is taking notes of all of the
46:06
people that are partaking in the chaotic events that have maybe
46:11
killed some people. Yeah, during that event.
46:13
And then we cut to news footage covering protests that are
46:17
happening in front of Right Mart because they are planning to do
46:21
the same shit again. But Thomas says it's OK.
46:24
It's OK because they've donated to charity over the past year
46:27
and they're gonna hire more security, so, you know, no big
46:32
deal. And what's his name?
46:36
Mitch. Mitch says it's awfully
46:39
convenient that the security footage wasn't working.
46:42
Cuz I'll tell you, it was working when I got to the store
46:44
that night. I love how like he was that real
46:47
like angry person on, on the news.
46:50
And, and I, I love that, especially from somebody that's
46:53
like leading a protest, like have that fire, have that
46:55
passion. I'm on your side, Mitch.
46:58
Yeah. And I think also they're like
46:59
they mentioned some of like the casualties are like the victims
47:02
and they mentioned Bobby's injury that he suffered was
47:05
career ending. So he was not able to pursue
47:07
pursue baseball. Except later he says that he's
47:11
almost back up to full speed with his pitches.
47:14
Rehab now is fucking incredible. Oh I know, I went to sports
47:19
rehab clinic for my knee. Yeah, exactly.
47:22
I am not anywhere near that level.
47:24
I got to utilize all kinds of fancy ass equipment.
47:27
That's like the peak right there.
47:28
The the sports rehab place is where it's at.
47:31
Yes, rich donors, I want you to know it doesn't just go to the
47:34
athletes, it goes to schmoes like me.
47:38
Yeah, some people that injured themselves.
47:40
Trampolini. Hey man, and.
47:42
Not like the person in this movie.
47:45
OK, so we cut over to the diner where Lizzie works and Erica's
47:50
there. He's waiting for the new deputy
47:52
that is starting to show up. Also love Lizzie, she has to
47:56
also be a complete fucking sociopath because she forgets
48:00
how she straight up murdered a woman in front of the sheriff
48:02
last year. Yeah, for real.
48:07
She's like usual, it's just coffee and he's like, no, no,
48:11
no, two cups today. Got a new deputy?
48:13
Got a new bubby coming along today.
48:16
Yeah, yeah. And he pulls in like an asshole,
48:19
cutting off the detective and they have like a little stare
48:23
down like a minor road rage incident.
48:25
I kind of like this guy as it goes throughout because he's
48:28
very rough around the edges, but he gets his fucking job done.
48:31
He kind of has a little side thing caught with the the tunnel
48:34
man too. Yeah, the museum Tunnel man.
48:37
Yes, as we will call him MMTMTM. Yeah, MTM.
48:43
Yeah, he was. OK.
48:44
He starts out as a Dick, yes, but that's and.
48:47
This is the right amount of side character growth that I'm
48:52
feeling like I got just enough of him.
48:54
So yeah. So yeah.
48:57
So. We see she's handing out John
49:02
Carver. Masks, yeah.
49:04
So everybody in town has. Them.
49:06
And they kind of point. Him as a red herring here at
49:09
first because like they hand it to him he's like, what would you
49:11
like it? And he's like, he puts sounds
49:13
like, yeah, how could you get used to this?
49:16
So. Eric.
49:19
Oh no sorry, that's the same line I just read.
49:21
So Jess and her friends don't know who has been posting the
49:25
video it Evan took it down, but it keeps getting reposted and
49:30
Gabby accuses him at first and then they realize that somebody
49:35
just keeps reposting it. They're being tagged in.
49:38
It. Yeah.
49:38
So that's making it worse for them.
49:41
She is supposed to. Jess is supposed to be filming a
49:44
commercial with her dad over at the Carver house, and she finds
49:48
out on the way there that Kathleen is also going to be in
49:51
it. So they've married since then?
49:54
Yeah, which I mean that makes. Sense I get the whole thing, the
49:59
stepchild being reluctant to have a new parent in their life
50:02
type thing, but I mean if they're married now like, I mean
50:05
that makes sense. I mean, yeah, like it's it's.
50:08
You might not consider her a mom, and that's real and totally
50:12
valid, but it is your dad's wife and but also a high schooler.
50:16
Should you? You don't.
50:17
Expect these people to have a full grasp on how that shit is.
50:20
Well, I mean somebody. Can be family and to somebody
50:23
and not to somebody else. So like, I get that.
50:26
Yeah. Like that's her daddy's family,
50:28
but not her family. This is his business.
50:30
It's his call, Yeah. No, I agree.
50:32
I know. I know you.
50:34
Yeah, I. Get where she's coming from, I
50:35
get where. He's coming from, and Kathleen
50:38
is coming from the point of consumerism and greed.
50:42
Yeah. And Thomas is coming from the
50:44
point of. Anger because the Carver house
50:46
has been vandalized yeah he's not mad that a historical
50:49
landmark has been vandalized he's mad because it's got fight
50:52
Mart on there and he's mad because the.
50:55
Acts, that was part of the historical landmark is gone and
50:59
he wanted to vandalize. He was going to have it, yeah.
51:02
I love, I love that right there. He's like, yeah, like I like
51:08
Eric is like, oh man, yeah, I got to report this, you know,
51:10
vandalized landmark. He's like, I don't give a fuck
51:13
about that. I wanted that axe.
51:15
So the way Rick Hoffman. Delivers his lines is just
51:18
always perfect. I love that dude.
51:21
I He was funny. In the behind the scenes.
51:22
Stuff. Too.
51:23
Yes, he was. Yeah, he was like.
51:25
Cuz he has to be at A10 for all of his line delivery.
51:28
So he comes in hot and so when he messes up it always feels
51:32
super intense. Kind of like us on the coffee.
51:34
Last week he was having a lot of his lines too.
51:36
And I. Like it was like a very calm one
51:38
too. And then I remember he was like,
51:40
well, I guess that just goes to show you don't do a lot of
51:42
cocaine before you do your takes.
51:45
I liked it. There was.
51:46
One outtake and it was used at the very end of the movie too,
51:50
where he has this whole emotional.
51:52
Moment with Jess. And then like, they just don't
51:55
cut after she leaves the room. And he's like, you know, being a
51:58
good actor, doing his job, staying in in the emotion of it.
52:03
And then like after 30 seconds, like he hears giggling and
52:06
realizes that they're fucking with them.
52:09
He just like, flips off. The camera and and the.
52:11
Best part about that is they didn't even use the shot from
52:14
that angle in the final movies and like he 'cause he kept
52:17
fucking it up the entire time, but that's that's so real that
52:20
like. Yeah.
52:21
Are we cut? We stop trying to go back to
52:23
being normal. Humans.
52:24
Again. Yeah, it's funny.
52:27
So, OK, Ryan has been invited by, he's talking to, I guess,
52:33
his friend. He's like, yeah, things are
52:35
going well with Jess. You know, I'm invited over for
52:37
Thanksgiving dinner, and I've also been invited to be a part
52:40
of the Thanksgiving parade this year.
52:42
Listen, I get that it's. An exciting moment for him.
52:46
You know he's been pining after her for a long time.
52:48
It's really easy to be a part of a fucking parade.
52:50
If I never have to be a part of a parade again in my life, I'll
52:53
be happy. I can't tell if it's.
52:55
Specifically her family's fault. Yeah.
52:57
No, it's because it's the. Float, but I just like, I'm
53:00
like, I mean, if you wanted to be in the parade, man, you could
53:02
have found a way to be in the parade.
53:03
Yeah, yeah, it's the. Thought that counts.
53:07
But he's super. Psyched about it.
53:09
Jess OK, so they're at the diner and they're waiting for Ryan to
53:11
show up. And then Jess thinks that she
53:14
sees Bobby walking out of the diner.
53:16
Yeah. Bobby has ghosted her.
53:18
Ghosted everybody. Yeah.
53:19
Left town. Dropped off.
53:21
Of like social media. Changed his number, all of that.
53:24
Yeah. But his uncle does have an auto
53:27
repair shop in town that he works at in school breaks.
53:30
So there is a potential he could be there.
53:32
And everybody else doesn't really love Ryan because they
53:35
say he kind of throws off the vibe.
53:38
But he he is a smart kid. And he comes in and he's like,
53:44
what are your all's plans for the Pats Steelers game?
53:47
And they're like, probably watch it scoop his house.
53:49
And he's like, well, just so happens I got tickets.
53:54
He's trying to buy the friendships.
53:55
Yeah, they're not real. I mean he.
53:58
He's trying to buy acceptance. From a group his girlfriend's
54:01
part of. Yeah, but even she's kind of
54:03
like. Yeah, you know, and her, she
54:07
didn't even defend him. She's like, well, he hasn't
54:09
ghosted me. Like, yeah.
54:11
Is that really all it takes for you to be like that's that's a
54:13
very shallow relationship. Also, she very strikes me.
54:16
She very much strikes me as somebody.
54:18
Who's insecure and just wants to be in a relationship because
54:20
she's 1617, doesn't know who she is yet and and she's lost her
54:25
mom and a lot of complicated shit and also before.
54:29
All of that, they all got tagged.
54:31
And another thing on Instagram, and it's a post saying the table
54:35
is set and it's got a picture of the table that I like.
54:40
The Instagram account isn't the John Carver.
54:42
Yes. Yeah.
54:43
Which I wonder if that was an actual real account that they
54:45
had during the promotion of the movie.
54:47
Oh, that's an interesting thought.
54:49
It should. Have I would have done.
54:51
That if I were them. Let me see if there's one.
54:55
Up at this time. There's a couple.
55:04
Of them. Yeah.
55:06
But I don't. Think they're real?
55:08
Yeah, it. Seems more like they're fan.
55:09
Accounts, yeah. So, OK, so there we go.
55:12
I like the idea of it. Yeah, it was.
55:14
Cool. All right.
55:17
So let's move on from that. We see Lizzie closing up the
55:21
diner at night. She is the last one in there.
55:23
Lights are off, tables are empty, and there is a John
55:28
Carpenter. I know I can't.
55:30
I'm. Sorry, I thought it might be
55:34
longer before I slipped that. Yeah, well, also before this.
55:38
Like, the killer is watching the video and he targets, he freezes
55:42
on Lizzie, and he's like, all right, that's what I'm going
55:44
after now. So yeah, now.
55:46
Yeah. She's closing down the diner.
55:49
She is attacked as. She is about to leave, her head
55:53
is dunked into a sink full of water or well, first her hand is
55:56
sliced and then while she's like ah, my hand is sliced.
55:59
Her head is shoved into a sink full of water and then the
56:02
freezer door is open and her face is stuck to it.
56:05
New fear unlocked. This is creative, yes?
56:08
I really. Really like this amazing and
56:11
like. Also terrifying to think about
56:14
because, like, it does it's, you know, like in the House of Wax
56:17
when the guy, like, super glues her lips together instead of
56:20
duct taping. And she's got like, peel her
56:21
lips apart and I'm like, wow, that's a much more efficient way
56:25
of doing it and also hurts a lot more than duct tape.
56:29
Same with this. Yeah, like the goal here?
56:32
Is he took her, did that, opened up the door and stuck her there
56:35
so she would be stuck so he can just take the axe and cut her?
56:38
Yes, but she frees herself by tearing off a chunk of her face
56:42
and pulling off and that we get. This is one of the funniest.
56:45
Like, this is the kind of dark humor shit I love because she
56:49
runs into the office, The Face ID doesn't recognize her because
56:53
her face is bloody and torn up, and her hand also got frozen and
56:56
stuck. The one that was.
56:58
Well, they were both. Both her hands are bloody at
57:00
this point because one got stuck to the freezer and she had to
57:02
RIP the skin off. The other had been sliced open
57:05
so she can't swipe open her phone.
57:07
Yeah. And this is such a good way of
57:10
handling the 21st century cell phone problem in movies.
57:13
Yeah. Yeah.
57:15
Honestly, you didn't even need to give her that like chance to
57:17
do that. But they I like that they were
57:20
like, yeah, here. Like fucking can't do it.
57:23
I love it. Body, hand, frozen face.
57:25
She manages to sneak out. She gets.
57:27
Out to the parking lot, but she can't find her keys in her
57:30
purse, and that takes just long enough for John Carver to drive
57:35
at her. She goes running.
57:36
She tries to dive into a dumpster to protect herself, but
57:40
she misses it. It's like she doesn't get in
57:42
there in time, and the car hits the dumpster and the lid closes
57:45
down and chops her in. Yeah, you know.
57:49
Always a bad move to run in a straight line whenever you're
57:52
running from a car because I mean, they're going to outrun
57:55
you. They're a fucking car.
57:56
Also like. Babe, if you're getting in the
57:59
dumpster, you fish in a barrel. Yeah, yeah.
58:04
Yeah, she was just stupid. Brain moment right there.
58:07
Yeah, like that. That was very much.
58:09
Like a fight or flight, like, okay, first thing I see, I'm
58:13
gonna dive into. But it just, it wasn't the best
58:16
move, Yeah, wasn't tactical. And that's why the next morning,
58:20
her leggies are set up on the right Mart sign.
58:23
Yeah, that, that was cool. What?
58:25
A statement? Yeah, right.
58:26
How the fuck? Do you even get up there?
58:28
I and I like that too. Like the killer?
58:29
Was like, hey, we're not fucking around.
58:32
I'm going to make sure the whole town knows what's going on.
58:34
Like, yeah, if the Instagram wasn't serious enough, like
58:37
because he's like boomers and Gen.
58:40
X might not check Instagram and might not care about the kids
58:44
saying Instagram. But if we put it on the grocery
58:47
store sign, some attention, the supermarket sign.
58:51
Yeah. All right, so we come.
58:52
Over to high school. Evan is getting a paper typed up
58:56
by Jacob, and Jacob is reluctant but you know he does it anyways.
59:02
And John Carver. Tags them in a.
59:04
Picture of the corpse and all of their names.
59:07
Are at place settings at the dinner table so.
59:12
We. The cops.
59:15
Are investigating the murder. Scene and they're just checking
59:18
out the shit and then yeah, security cameras show John.
59:21
Carver was at both the diner and the store.
59:26
Right? Mart?
59:27
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're like you're get.
59:29
A load of this, Eric. You're not gonna believe what
59:31
he's wearing. Yeah, you are.
59:33
He's wearing the fucking John Carver.
59:35
Completely believable. Yeah, he's wearing the John
59:37
Carver outfit. Yeah, like the mask that
59:38
everybody has in town? Jess asks her.
59:42
Dad to close the store, like, please don't do this.
59:45
And he just refuses. He was like, I'm hiring even
59:48
more security. I don't know what you want from
59:51
me. Yeah.
59:52
He's like, go to the police station.
59:54
Yeah, you know. Like.
59:56
About like they're. Wanting to know.
59:59
Just because they think it's related to the events of last
1:00:01
year because it seems targeted based off of putting the body
1:00:03
there. Yes.
1:00:04
So they're like, all right, tell them like if you saw anything
1:00:07
since they don't have footage to review.
1:00:08
Yeah. So they're, they're headed to.
1:00:10
The The group is like headed from the school to the police
1:00:13
station. McCarty pulls up.
1:00:14
He is like that archetype of the older kid who still hangs around
1:00:19
the high school and tries to sell them drugs and booze and
1:00:23
tickets to druggie boozy parties and also guns, which is what
1:00:28
he's trying to sell in this particular moment.
1:00:31
The kids, they arrive at the police.
1:00:35
Station and they show. Them the pics on Instagram?
1:00:37
Yes, and. Then.
1:00:40
You know, they're like, OK, we'll see what we can do with
1:00:42
this. When they leave, Bobby's waiting
1:00:44
for them outside. And Jess is like, hey, I think I
1:00:46
saw you yesterday at the diner. He's like, Nope, couldn't have
1:00:48
been me. I just got in town today.
1:00:51
Yeah, I will say at one point before they.
1:00:52
Left. The sheriff did ask Jess
1:00:54
specifically about the cameras, if she knows what happened to
1:00:57
him, and it cut before she said anything, which she does.
1:01:00
When she goes to talk to Bobby, they walk and talk, She said.
1:01:04
He says rehab's going good, and she said so.
1:01:07
Last year, in a panic, Kathleen came in and started deleting all
1:01:12
of the security footage and saying it wasn't good for the
1:01:16
image of the store. And I just kind of sit there and
1:01:19
let it happen. And I feel really bad about it.
1:01:21
He's like, well, you couldn't have stopped her, like, you
1:01:24
know, Yeah. And she's like, but we have
1:01:27
backups at home. And he's like, would it still
1:01:29
even be available? She goes, it stays for up to a
1:01:31
year. And so we see the killer has a.
1:01:35
New victim in his sights? It's Manny, the security guard
1:01:38
that dipped out during the Black Friday.
1:01:40
And guess what? He's getting ready to dip out.
1:01:42
Again, he's going to the Republica Dominica and he Don't
1:01:47
worry, Jeannie is coming to feed Dewey.
1:01:51
Yeah, dude, it's just sitting there like what the.
1:01:52
Fuck man, it's Thanksgiving. It's supposed to be eaten, dude,
1:01:55
and it's the same look that the cats give us.
1:01:57
When they know we're going well, it's the same like Scout gives
1:02:00
us when she knows we're going away is always like, I know
1:02:02
you're about to put a shit ton of food in our bowls.
1:02:04
Yeah, so I'm just going to scream until you like.
1:02:05
Yeah, basically. Yeah, this cat is very well.
1:02:09
Behaved so he's going to go do that.
1:02:11
He sets down his passport on the table and then he's like
1:02:13
distracted for a second and then he turns back around and then
1:02:16
the passports missing, yes. So he's going to look.
1:02:19
Around as he's trying to find it, he finds a junk carbon mask
1:02:23
on his couch that is such a creepy.
1:02:25
Thing whenever that happened he like comes because like he has
1:02:28
like a false scare he I think somebody's behind the closet
1:02:30
door he checks it nothing there he goes out to the living room
1:02:33
and it's just placed on the couch and that happened in real
1:02:36
life. I would be shitting my fucking
1:02:38
pants and I love this so, he starts.
1:02:41
To walk towards the kitchen and the angle of it, it's not very
1:02:44
open. He can't see into the kitchen,
1:02:45
but he can see Dewey on the kitchen counter.
1:02:47
Dewey's looking at something like it.
1:02:49
Looks like he's looking at something and he's like Dewey.
1:02:51
Where is he in? There is he.
1:02:53
In there, Dewey. And, like, it feels like Dewey
1:02:56
is collaborating with him. And for a minute, you're like,
1:02:58
fuck, yeah. And then he gets an electric
1:03:01
Carver to the belly. Yeah, he was hiding underneath
1:03:04
the table. And then he takes a wire, puts
1:03:06
it up against his neck, and then cuts his head off a grout.
1:03:09
And then? As he's.
1:03:11
Walking out, he sees the cat standing by the food bowl,
1:03:14
staring contemptuously. Yeah.
1:03:16
I think it meows. Yeah, yes, maybe like Leroy did.
1:03:21
Leroy Yale. We know Leroy.
1:03:23
Yale did Dewey, Yale TBD. And it cuts.
1:03:27
And for a second you're very concerned.
1:03:29
And then we see a full bowl and a little gloved hand patting the
1:03:33
top of the titty's head. I love this.
1:03:37
I love this moment. And it also feels very
1:03:41
believable from Eric as a character that he would see a
1:03:44
Kitty cat and feed it. Like Patrick Dempsey really
1:03:48
understood his character and was able to like, well, I wonder if
1:03:51
he played that guy. I wonder, I do.
1:03:54
Did you see if they credited anybody for the I don't know if
1:03:58
you played him. I'm just saying like the way he.
1:03:59
Is in all the other scenes. This feels believable as an
1:04:03
action. I like how this like that right
1:04:05
there like. You see that moment and it's
1:04:07
kind of tense because you're like, oh fuck, he's gonna kill
1:04:10
the cat. Yeah, for now they're good
1:04:13
reason. Yeah, but then just a little
1:04:14
gentle. Pet and food fill it up in the
1:04:17
bowl and we also I also know it's going to be OK.
1:04:19
Because we know Jeannie was supposed to come by to check on
1:04:21
Dewey anyway. So like it's not even a case of
1:04:24
he's going to starve and start to eat Manny's body.
1:04:26
Exactly, he would be fine. Either way, but he doesn't have
1:04:29
to resort to that unless he's an asshole cat.
1:04:32
He gets hungry like 12 hours later.
1:04:35
Listen if we die. Zoe's going to be the first to
1:04:38
eat us. She tries to eat us while we're
1:04:39
a whole high. Yeah, so.
1:04:42
Regardless. Stewie can't eat Manny's head
1:04:45
because it has been placed at the table and it's right across
1:04:48
from Lizzie's top half. And of course, all of the kids
1:04:51
are notified via their tags on Instagram.
1:04:54
Yeah, so the cops are? Profiling the killer.
1:04:56
They're trying to figure out who it could be.
1:04:59
They just have like a basic idea of what it is.
1:05:01
Meanwhile, they can't trace the phone either because.
1:05:03
Whenever it's not like actively posting, it's turned off.
1:05:07
Yeah, Jess is. Watching the footage from the
1:05:11
backups. Yep, and she prints some.
1:05:14
Photos and she's sneaking out right as Thomas walks in and he
1:05:18
apologizes well also before. That she saw Ryan and his friend
1:05:23
hugging Doug. Yeah.
1:05:24
The security guards. So she's like OK, there's
1:05:26
something suspicious with Ryan. So yeah, Thomas is there.
1:05:31
Apologizes about overworking being.
1:05:35
Absent after her mom died and then he just generally for
1:05:38
Kathleen. Yeah.
1:05:39
Just for Kathleen. Yeah, I'm.
1:05:41
Sorry. Just right, Kelly.
1:05:42
See. The thing is, this guy, he's.
1:05:45
Like, he plays assholes well, but it's kind of cool seeing him
1:05:49
like, play like, you know, like a real grounded type of person.
1:05:53
Like, yeah, this is asshole moments in this movie for sure,
1:05:55
but he also has moments like this.
1:05:56
He's like, you know what? I didn't realize I was being an
1:05:58
asshole and I'm sorry. And honestly, the overworking
1:06:00
thing. In terms of grief is very real.
1:06:05
Like, it makes sense. Yeah.
1:06:06
And even though it sucks because he had a daughter that needed
1:06:10
him, he was also dealing with heavy shit.
1:06:12
Like, it's just one of those situations that just sucks all
1:06:14
around. Yeah, so they go.
1:06:16
Jess and Bobby go to see Eric at the police station.
1:06:19
They're pointing out some of the people on the footage that just
1:06:23
watched. So, like, we've got the Hanover
1:06:25
kids. Lonnie and I didn't get the
1:06:28
cheerleader's name. It's like Ashley or Kayla or
1:06:30
something like that. We've got the Turkey kid,
1:06:34
Leonard. He, he's always the Turkey in
1:06:35
the parade. We've got Lizzie from the diner,
1:06:37
of course. And then unfortunately, there is
1:06:43
Ryan hugging Doug. Yeah.
1:06:46
So they're. Like, OK, well, you.
1:06:48
Know keep an eye. Out on him we got.
1:06:50
We cut to class and. Kids are reading their
1:06:52
Thanksgiving essays out loud. And first of all, I gotta say, I
1:06:55
love this character. Chad, I believe, is his name.
1:06:58
Yeah. And he he knows what he's doing.
1:07:01
He's playing the sensitive artist, but who's also just kind
1:07:04
of fucking ripped. Yeah, because he wipes the tears
1:07:07
away and. Pulls his shirt up and just
1:07:08
reveals his ass. Yeah.
1:07:11
And then it's. Evan's trying to read afterwards
1:07:14
and he starts reading and this is the essay that Jacob wrote
1:07:17
for him that Evan didn't pay for.
1:07:22
He's owed him money for it. Didn't pay for the previous one
1:07:25
either. He's like, I'll get you in two
1:07:26
weeks. He's.
1:07:27
Like you said that a month ago. So this kid has done a bunch of
1:07:29
free labor for him and he's not afraid of getting hurt because
1:07:33
he's Mccarty's little sidekick. So he printed.
1:07:37
Off the teacher's blog. It was, it was nice.
1:07:40
She was like that. Was beautiful, Evan.
1:07:43
Just as beautiful as whenever I wrote that on my blog.
1:07:45
Yeah, this is. A good whole.
1:07:48
Review. Yes.
1:07:49
I wish that there was more from that, honestly.
1:07:50
Yeah. But you know, it was a funny.
1:07:52
Moment, yeah. So after class they.
1:07:57
They. All like their little click goes
1:08:00
to meet in the school, like salon area.
1:08:03
Yeah. And they are kind of talking
1:08:05
about how they just really can't trust anyone.
1:08:07
They just want to trust their little group.
1:08:09
And they're like, that includes Ryan.
1:08:10
We don't trust him either if he was on that she tells him about.
1:08:13
Ryan's involvement, too. Yeah, so.
1:08:17
And she keeps ignoring. She's been ignoring calls from
1:08:19
him for a long time. Yeah.
1:08:21
And this time she ignores a call and then it cuts to him.
1:08:24
He's at the float construction for the first shot of him
1:08:28
getting. Fitted for the outfit and he's
1:08:30
really good. Dark room.
1:08:32
It's chilling for a minute. Like I know we already knew who
1:08:35
the killer was, but seeing him and that mom was like, dude,
1:08:37
this guy looks like he could have axed several people first.
1:08:41
I mean, whoa. They do a good job setting him
1:08:43
up as a red herring. Yeah.
1:08:44
Yeah. Because like, right after that,
1:08:46
he goes over to Bobby is like, hey, you know, if you weren't
1:08:53
leaving town, I would beat the shit out of you right now.
1:08:56
And then Bobby's like, oh, who says I'm leaving town?
1:08:58
So, you know, you get an idea. Like, OK, maybe he's just
1:09:01
jealous. He's a jealous boyfriend and
1:09:03
that's why he's killing people. I don't know, like, people have
1:09:05
killed for worse or Dumber reasons than that before.
1:09:09
So we cut. To an aggressive Hanover gym
1:09:12
class, and I meant to right that it's aggressively Massachusetts.
1:09:19
Yeah, very Boston. It is.
1:09:22
This is. These accents just.
1:09:24
Punch you right in the face. It's Lonnie.
1:09:26
He's yeah. I called it the The Boston
1:09:29
Workout here because he's just yelling at him like all the
1:09:34
stereotypical Boston shit that you hear and I liked how before
1:09:39
they mentioned that he's like 30 and he got like held back as
1:09:42
shit ton of times because he looks way older than everybody.
1:09:45
I legitimately didn't connect. That that was Lonnie, because in
1:09:49
the previous scenes he'd had the black eye, so I thought he was a
1:09:51
coach. No, this is a student.
1:09:53
Yeah, he's just old enough to be a coach pretty much, and he sees
1:09:58
his girlfriend, the cheerleader over there by the door and she's
1:10:01
waving him over, so she wants to do a little tease.
1:10:04
Can't have sex right now and she is on the trampoline and she is
1:10:10
going to do a little striptease. I love how it just is like.
1:10:14
Perfect spotlight for this trampoline in the middle of the
1:10:17
gym. It's so funny.
1:10:18
It's like, what the fuck even. Why?
1:10:21
It's so absurd but you don't even care.
1:10:23
Massey's watching his neck gets. Broken.
1:10:26
There's like a great outtake too of it happening where like the
1:10:30
person like that is supposed to like grab his head and just kind
1:10:32
of like shoves his head into his belly a little bit.
1:10:36
The guy's You fixed my nose. You fucking?
1:10:38
Fixed my nose. Oh, that was.
1:10:40
Terrible. So yeah, he's got a snap neck
1:10:45
and then she's like flashing him while she's doing that and then
1:10:50
like right underneath the knife goes up through the trampoline.
1:10:53
Doesn't get her like in the trailer, it cuts her heel.
1:10:57
Yeah. And then it causes her to fall
1:10:59
on her back and like The thing is like the.
1:11:02
The knife keeps coming up at various points in the
1:11:04
trampoline, but because it's a trampoline, she keeps falling
1:11:07
and bouncing back up and falling again.
1:11:08
And it's, it's fucked up, but it's also.
1:11:11
Really funny. It's a really good kill like
1:11:14
that cut. When it happens to her heel,
1:11:16
like, yeah, it was really, really good.
1:11:20
We found out the next. Day that the game is.
1:11:21
Cancelled. I fucking love this.
1:11:23
I was like. Oh man, I'm going to just
1:11:25
fucking. I'm going to go anyways.
1:11:26
I'm going to go play and then scoop.
1:11:28
It's like you're going to play football by yourself.
1:11:29
He's like, yeah, watch. It's like.
1:11:32
I would love to. See this one person?
1:11:34
Try and play football all by himself.
1:11:36
McCarty comes by. I forget.
1:11:37
Exactly what he did. But I do know that air, like
1:11:40
everybody starts shouting at him, fires a blunderbuss.
1:11:43
Oh, OK. And then?
1:11:45
Eric calls him a fucking Gooba checker.
1:11:47
I looked this up because I was curious what that meant and
1:11:52
basically goober. Sometimes it means you're a
1:11:56
little dumb dumb, but also sometimes it refers to
1:11:59
ejaculate. And especially in like the
1:12:02
Massachusetts parlance, a goober checker is like, come shot,
1:12:07
Yeah. Come.
1:12:09
Shot. Yeah, basically.
1:12:10
So if anybody was curious, I did the work for you.
1:12:14
There you go. I didn't even think about it and
1:12:16
it even. Said in the pronunciation.
1:12:18
Guba chaka. Nice.
1:12:21
Yeah. So Jess is in the school.
1:12:25
Like, Evan's gonna go change his girlfriend, Gabby's gonna go
1:12:29
with him. He's just gonna wait for them.
1:12:31
Well, yeah, so the. Cops are like stick together and
1:12:36
immediately they split up. Horror movie Horror movie
1:12:40
tropes. I like how this.
1:12:42
Movie doesn't shy away. From them.
1:12:43
Like it's almost like they do it into yes, they're leaning into
1:12:46
the tropes for. Sure.
1:12:47
So Gabby gets Evan to come back into the school.
1:12:50
They're gonna go change in the locker room, among other things.
1:12:53
And Jess is just, like, waiting and waiting.
1:12:56
And we see them start to walk back to her.
1:12:58
And then they get tranquilized, and it cuts.
1:13:00
And Jess gets a text message saying like, hey, you need to
1:13:03
come here. And she's, like, trying to find
1:13:05
them. And when she texts, she hears
1:13:07
the ping and finds the phone. And that's when she is attacked
1:13:11
by John Carver. So she runs away.
1:13:13
She just barely manages to get out of the school.
1:13:16
And, you know, she's obviously shaking up.
1:13:19
Dude, you're just like the whole.
1:13:21
Scene is like, I feel like it deserves some attention.
1:13:25
Like, yeah, I mean, he chases her into the hair stylist area,
1:13:29
the cosmetology class. And I love the way that this is,
1:13:32
like, the way it's shot is perfect.
1:13:34
And it's a great setup because she's trying to, like, have
1:13:37
she's having to hide next to the mannequin heads.
1:13:40
And he's just kind of like, walking around.
1:13:41
She's reaching over for, like, an object to throw to make a
1:13:45
distraction. But she accidentally hits the
1:13:46
Hairspray, which causes it to, like, trigger him.
1:13:50
And then she picks it up and then, like, sprays his face like
1:13:53
Mace. Yeah, Yeah.
1:13:55
I mean, it's not a. Lot but.
1:13:56
You know, like it's a thing that happened and it's a really cool
1:13:59
scene. I'm not saying it isn't.
1:14:00
I just didn't write a whole lot of.
1:14:01
Details about it? No.
1:14:03
OK. Yeah, that's all.
1:14:04
So, yeah, and. Then she makes it out.
1:14:07
And then she's, she's covered up in Bobby's jacket because
1:14:11
Bobby's there to come for her. And then whenever first Sheriff.
1:14:15
Eric Sheriff, if you will, says, dude, like, what details do you
1:14:20
have about him? And she's like, nothing.
1:14:22
I saw him for all of two seconds.
1:14:23
I was busy running. He goes, we'll just try and
1:14:25
think. It's the little details that
1:14:27
always give these people away. Yeah.
1:14:29
So yes then. Bobby.
1:14:31
Is there 1st and he like puts his jacket around her shoulders
1:14:34
and is trying and comforter and then Ryan comes up and it's that
1:14:37
moment that you said. I just said that they have APP
1:14:39
contest. Honestly, if I were Ryan, I
1:14:42
would just be done. With.
1:14:42
It like if if you know, like she's like she's in very flip
1:14:47
floppy about it. Yeah, like, I mean, you know,
1:14:49
like, I don't care. Like maybe he's a friend, but I
1:14:52
mean, he's very much trying to not be a friend.
1:14:55
I would be like, you know what, if you want to be with him, fuck
1:14:56
it. I don't give a shit.
1:14:57
It's not worth my time. Ryan has always been the rebound
1:14:59
guy. Yeah, that's true.
1:15:01
Yeah, he should probably. Realize that.
1:15:03
Yeah. But you know, I I love his move.
1:15:05
Just like push off the coat and then give her a hug.
1:15:08
But because they start getting so heated.
1:15:10
About it, Eric bans them both from the parade, says he better
1:15:13
not see either of them anywhere near it tomorrow.
1:15:15
And Jess is like, yeah, two of our friends are missing.
1:15:18
We don't know where they are. I don't have time to deal with
1:15:21
whatever this is. So then we get Yulia, Julia's
1:15:27
dad coming up and he grabs her and he says come, we go.
1:15:31
And she's like, where are you going?
1:15:33
Florida. Yeah, I go, OK, I.
1:15:35
Guess I'm going to Florida and it's like just like what the
1:15:38
fuck was that talking to scuba and Scuba's like I don't know.
1:15:40
That's the most he's ever talked to me and that.
1:15:44
Felt like such a. Believable line for him too,
1:15:46
like his delivery and. Everything like he's.
1:15:48
Clearly terrified of the guy, which, yeah, yeah dude, I would
1:15:51
not want. To date, the mob boss's
1:15:53
daughter. Know who he reminds me of?
1:15:55
Yeah. Colossus and Deadpool, yeah, a
1:15:58
little bit, yeah. Yeah, like in.
1:16:00
Stature. And accent.
1:16:02
Accent. Yeah, yeah.
1:16:05
So. Scuba and Jess.
1:16:07
They go to Mccarty's house party, and they're like, hey, we
1:16:11
need weapons. And you think he's gonna sell
1:16:12
it, but he actually just lets them borrow it.
1:16:14
And this is where McCarty is like suddenly like on their
1:16:17
side. Hey guys, we'll feed you guys in
1:16:21
a little. Bit OK, it's I know it's like
1:16:23
time, but you guys got fed weightish so you'll you'll
1:16:27
survive. I also like how he has all the
1:16:31
guns just like stashed and all of these like really cool
1:16:34
compartments like one of them is in his stereo.
1:16:36
The other one is just like in like the little like hidden
1:16:39
compartment underneath his desk. It's really cool.
1:16:41
And then like he has, well, he tries to give Jess like a little
1:16:46
knife and she's like, yeah, like Scuba's got a gun.
1:16:48
That's all we need. Yeah.
1:16:50
Yeah, he said. He's.
1:16:51
Like he likes tactical stuff. So like, the knife is like, it
1:16:54
hides in a belt. She should have taken it.
1:16:56
Yeah, she really should have you.
1:16:57
Can't count on one. I mean because what if scuba?
1:16:59
Gets killed, yeah, and or what if you guys get split up?
1:17:01
For some reason, exactly so Yulia's at home.
1:17:04
And she's packing. Up Her dad is downstairs and he
1:17:07
get like he's got a cop. It's really funny because
1:17:09
Yulia's on the phone with scuba while she's packing.
1:17:11
Face timing, Yeah, and. She he's like.
1:17:14
Saying that, he went to Gogi again.
1:17:15
She's like, why do you need a gun?
1:17:17
If you need like more protection, I can have my dad
1:17:20
send a cop to be around you guys.
1:17:22
He's got a cop in our house right now.
1:17:24
I would feel uneasy with that also.
1:17:26
Yes, not also because. And downstairs.
1:17:28
Her dad is giving the cops. And Thanksgiving food and he's
1:17:31
like, we won't be around you eat.
1:17:33
It's Thanksgiving and. The cop goes so when the.
1:17:36
When's the remodel gonna be done?
1:17:37
And he goes. Never.
1:17:41
So he goes. Upstairs and then as.
1:17:42
That happens. John Carver walks in from right
1:17:45
behind and shoots the cop with the silenced gun.
1:17:48
Yes. And he drops a corn cob.
1:17:50
Corn on the cob with some skewers, yes.
1:17:55
They're like COB holders. Like there's a.
1:17:57
Specific name for them and I've been trying to skewers.
1:18:00
Is the term no. Yeah, no.
1:18:05
There's a. Different term.
1:18:06
For it. Who cares?
1:18:09
Corn holders. Corn.
1:18:13
Corn cob holders so. OK, corn.
1:18:17
Cob. Holders are now available.
1:18:20
Look, they've got. The.
1:18:22
Corn on the ends of them. It's very specific.
1:18:25
Yes, yes. So.
1:18:27
As that's all the skewers any pointy object.
1:18:31
OK as that. Is going on Yulia is upstairs
1:18:36
and she's continuing to pack I think has he killed does he
1:18:40
killed dad let me check my no not that hasn't happened yet so.
1:18:43
Yulia is, she's taking out her contacts.
1:18:46
She's got a very durable contacts case, actually.
1:18:49
She's put in the contacts. And so she's doing all this.
1:18:52
She's still packing. We still see things happening.
1:18:54
She hears sounds and she calls out for her dad.
1:18:58
John Carver shoots the guy with the silencer.
1:19:00
And then, yeah, he shoots the dad, which is what I have
1:19:02
afterwards. And then she's up there doing
1:19:06
the contact, removing whatever. And as she's like, yeah, as
1:19:10
she's moving back and forth from her bedroom to the bathroom, you
1:19:14
see her walk past the door and you see John Carver hiding
1:19:17
behind the door there, which I thought that that was a really
1:19:19
cool shot. So she's over there.
1:19:21
She's still on FaceTime with scuba, and she's got it propped
1:19:24
up against the desk. And as she's talking to him, he
1:19:27
sinks up behind her with the corn cob holders and stabs her
1:19:31
in both ears with this. So she's now deaf and so.
1:19:36
Scuba and Jess drive over. They come in with the gun and
1:19:42
Scuba's like trying to shoot John Carver, but he has Yulia,
1:19:46
like held hostage. There's a nice up to her throat
1:19:49
and it's kind of like a tense moment.
1:19:51
And then John throws her onto the table where some work had
1:19:55
been done. There's a table saw and he turns
1:19:57
on the table saw. So she gets killed and we
1:19:59
forgot. To mention.
1:20:00
Before that, Ryan, he he explained his cover up for being
1:20:05
on the video before it was because he had an Adderall hook
1:20:07
up with one of the security guards there, the one that got
1:20:09
pinned at the door in the beginning.
1:20:11
So just to clarify, the adults don't want to.
1:20:16
Do the parade anymore? But Jess does.
1:20:19
Want to She wants to use it as a way to draw out the killer and
1:20:27
Eric says that he can make the warehouse look empty and it can
1:20:30
be like. Like kind of an ambush.
1:20:33
Yeah, afterwards to catch him, and Thomas has decided that
1:20:37
they're also. Closing the store too, which
1:20:39
Kathleen is not happy about. Yeah.
1:20:43
So they're at the. Parade.
1:20:44
Yeah. Amanda's husband, Mitch.
1:20:46
Which Mitch? Yeah, that's why I wrote him.
1:20:48
As air but he. Puts on the mask so you think
1:20:50
he's getting he's getting up to do something at the parade.
1:20:53
He's not in the rest of the costume, so it's.
1:20:55
Not really. Like a great red herring.
1:20:57
No, No, it's not. But.
1:20:59
If they had kept that deleted scene in from before you would
1:21:02
think maybe Cardi gives just. A ring, he said.
1:21:06
It was his dad that he wore at the war and it kept him alive.
1:21:10
So he says like she should wear it for luck.
1:21:13
Scuba is on the float with them and he's in his little Pilgrim
1:21:17
suit. They these are fitted Pilgrim
1:21:19
suits. How did they get one that fit
1:21:21
him so fast? I don't know.
1:21:23
He's just, he's got one of. Those bodies where you can just
1:21:26
like, fit into anything. So Mitch starts a protest at the
1:21:31
parade. Basically, hold on, you're
1:21:33
cutting past the. Mayor dancing in his car, right?
1:21:37
I'm sorry about that little. Scene because he's in his a
1:21:39
little convertible. And he's just, yeah, he looks
1:21:42
like the Numa Numa. It's kind of like the yeah,
1:21:44
Yeah, it is. Sweet.
1:21:45
Yeah, they're all having a good time.
1:21:46
This is very. I know you did last summer too,
1:21:49
because they're on the floats and they're trying to find any
1:21:51
of the anybody that looks like the killer out there.
1:21:54
There's a lot of people wearing the masks.
1:21:56
Yes, there are a ton of Pilgrim hats and John.
1:21:58
Carver masks. So like everybody is a suspect.
1:22:01
And then Mitch comes out and they start a protest, which
1:22:04
right in front of the right Mark parade, which, you know, causes
1:22:08
the whole like, commotion. The whole parade has stopped.
1:22:11
And that's when you see somebody in a clown costume walk out.
1:22:15
And at first you're like, huh, that's weird.
1:22:17
Why are they wearing a clown costume?
1:22:19
Oh, because it's the killer. And the killer knew they were
1:22:21
going to be looking for somebody in the John Carver mask and
1:22:24
Pilgrim hat. It's a nice well.
1:22:27
Like whenever I was watching that originally I was like, why
1:22:30
is there a quown? I don't know.
1:22:31
Thanksgiving is close enough to Halloween to wear.
1:22:33
I could maybe allow it. Yeah, but I like that because, I
1:22:36
mean, it's the thing from the trailer.
1:22:38
Like he, you know, gets his head cut off.
1:22:40
It's the exact same Turkey, too. Yes, Which is cool.
1:22:43
So chaos ensues. He also has his silencer gun
1:22:46
here, too, except the tranquilizer gun.
1:22:49
Yeah. This son has got tranquilizers.
1:22:51
Yeah, that's what I was going to say it was.
1:22:53
It was tranquilizers before too. Was it?
1:22:55
Yeah, I thought it was actually like.
1:22:56
A gun? No.
1:22:58
So he just like tranked the cop and the dad.
1:23:00
He didn't kill them? I don't think so.
1:23:03
Because it was. It showed the little.
1:23:04
Tranquilizer. Sticking out of them.
1:23:06
Oh really? Yeah, I didn't see that.
1:23:08
I just thought that he. Actually shot them.
1:23:09
Also, a silencer isn't a type of A.
1:23:11
Gun it's a type of gun accessory.
1:23:13
I know. OK, thank you.
1:23:14
I just I. Had to clarify, I've played
1:23:18
enough. Video games with guns at this
1:23:22
point. So I I like how a lot of shit
1:23:28
goes down here too because it's almost like the mall scene or
1:23:30
the store scene all over again. Like somebody Rams the truck of
1:23:34
one of the floats, which causes a pole to go in through the back
1:23:38
of it and right through a dude's face.
1:23:40
It's a grandpa's face and. He was in the cab of the truck
1:23:43
with his wife and two grandkids. And I love this because in all
1:23:47
of the like deleted scenes and art, in all of the outtakes, it
1:23:50
just kept cutting to the scene of those little girls, bloodier
1:23:53
and bloodier, screaming more and more.
1:23:56
So also like there was a lot of shots of that.
1:23:58
Shot of the pole going through his face getting fucked up.
1:24:02
Like it could have looked really silly but they got a really cool
1:24:05
take right there. So the clown goes over to the
1:24:09
other float that has, suggesting them in.
1:24:13
It Yeah. Well, actually they are hopping
1:24:15
in the cop car, Yeah, no, the deputy is trying to get.
1:24:19
Them out of there and he's got them in the back seat, but he
1:24:22
gets tranquilized and then the rest of them get tranquilized as
1:24:25
well. Yeah, he tosses like a flash
1:24:27
bang inside. The car which disorients them
1:24:29
too, and then he just drives away.
1:24:33
So, Kathleen? Wakes up and.
1:24:34
She is in a kitchen on a table and she sees John Carver like
1:24:39
cooking so she pretends to still be knocked out and then she gets
1:24:43
like buttered up and it's really gross.
1:24:46
How does she stay still as that brush was going over her face?
1:24:50
That and also getting like garlic salt.
1:24:52
And shit like that in her eyes. Yeah, I like this.
1:24:55
Though it's. Cool, Like it.
1:24:57
It's just shots of him cooking. Yeah, You know, the way that
1:25:01
they do this is really cool. And then he goes over to the.
1:25:03
I'm glad that this is a shorter scene than.
1:25:05
What we get in the alternate cut, because the alternate cut
1:25:07
goes on just a little bit too long.
1:25:08
It's, I mean, yeah, yeah, but. I like how he goes over to the
1:25:12
oven and he sets his mask on top of it and then it kind of like
1:25:15
burns it a little bit, which gives it an interesting.
1:25:18
We thought maybe Halloween kills so much to that right there.
1:25:21
But it could be like anything. It also feels like almost.
1:25:25
Like Phantom of the Opera ask, I'm pretty sure there is a
1:25:29
moment in one of the Star Wars movies where Vader's mask is
1:25:32
destroyed in the new trilogy. Yeah, it could be a lot, yeah.
1:25:37
It's a very. Well known like visual motif in
1:25:40
movies, it gives them a really cool look.
1:25:42
Here, Yeah. So she while he was doing that,
1:25:47
she had gotten up and she snuck upstairs and.
1:25:50
She is like. Sneaking.
1:25:55
Around, she's trying to find a way out.
1:25:56
One of the windows is boarded up and so she gets a bottle opener
1:26:00
that's like on the fridge, and she is using that to try and,
1:26:04
like, ply out boards. Except the fridge opens up and
1:26:07
the cheerleader's body is in there.
1:26:09
Guess what? She's still alive.
1:26:10
Yeah. I can't believe she's still
1:26:11
alive. After all of the.
1:26:13
Shit that she like. Suffered on that trampoline,
1:26:15
yeah, but she. Hears John Carver coming up the
1:26:20
stairs, so she hides. And she, like, tells the Sheila
1:26:23
she needs to be quiet. And she leaves little bloody
1:26:25
footprints and she thinks that she's gonna get caught.
1:26:29
But then John Carver walks out, so she's like, OK, cool, I'm
1:26:31
cool. Except he was actually still
1:26:33
waiting there the whole time. It was a fake out.
1:26:35
He stabs, but she keeps running. She manages to get out the front
1:26:38
door. And we think she's gonna run
1:26:39
into the woods. And then he, like, throws his
1:26:41
pitchfork like a spear and it lands on her back.
1:26:44
And then he pulls her back in and puts her in the oven.
1:26:48
Yeah. And got.
1:26:50
The shots of her actually bacon in the OK, you get her skin
1:26:54
actually frying. Yeah, it's just got butter on
1:26:56
her too. So, you know, it's like, Oh my
1:26:58
God, those parts probably. Would have like blistered and he
1:27:02
at one point stabbed her with a thermometer which pops out.
1:27:06
Yeah, yeah, that. Was funny, old gag.
1:27:09
As he's about to leave, we see he's got.
1:27:11
A stack of John Carver masks, so he swaps it out for a fresh one.
1:27:14
Why even do that then? Is he just wanting to do that
1:27:17
for this one kill? What do you mean?
1:27:22
Have the mask. Modified he he.
1:27:25
It seemed intentional. I don't think it was
1:27:27
intentional. I.
1:27:28
Think he just had a dumb dumb moment and like set up cheap
1:27:30
plastic mask on top of the hot oven.
1:27:32
Well, he like go. He checks himself out in the.
1:27:34
Mirror for a minute after that and he like you know he's like
1:27:37
fuck yeah this is cool yeah I think like it was accidental and
1:27:40
he. Was like whatever, I'll run with
1:27:42
it. But like going back out into
1:27:44
public it it eliminates some of his.
1:27:46
I guess that's true. Yeah.
1:27:48
So. OK, so the citizens have.
1:27:52
Formed a mob outside the police station because of the events
1:27:55
that happened at the parade and they're wanting answers.
1:27:58
The cops are tracing a live stream.
1:27:59
That's currently ongoing. All of the people that have been
1:28:03
abducted are sitting at the table and they, you know, like
1:28:10
whatever is about to happen is about to happen.
1:28:12
So they've got it traced to like a specific area.
1:28:16
It was like Cordage Park, I think, is what he said.
1:28:18
I'm not sure they pinned it down.
1:28:19
They pinned the. Location, so they're going to
1:28:21
like at least send people there, but when they get there, they
1:28:24
don't see. Anything.
1:28:25
And that's when they realize there's tunnels.
1:28:27
And the deleted scene shows the tunnel man telling them about
1:28:31
the whole tunnel system. Yeah, yeah.
1:28:34
So and the SWAT storms the tunnels and they get there and
1:28:38
then by the time that they make it to where the signals coming
1:28:40
from, it's a setup. It's like a decoy.
1:28:42
It's very like Saw too. Yeah, it's.
1:28:45
I get set. Up with a stream of them at the
1:28:48
dinner table. Yeah.
1:28:51
So, John. Carver's now.
1:28:52
Speaking, he's telling them that they're all going to share what
1:28:55
they are thankful for. And it starts with Evan, because
1:28:59
the whole thing started out of his video there and inspired the
1:29:04
killer to start taking his own things into his own hands first,
1:29:08
he reveals Kathleen and. Says she's been baking all day.
1:29:11
She appreciate this. And then he says a cheer from
1:29:14
our cheerleader and unquirks her neck and props to the sound guy
1:29:18
who put that perfect in there. Yeah, I like, he's like, yeah.
1:29:22
Sure. Also, I like that it was chilled
1:29:25
wine. Like he he like made a point.
1:29:27
Like, yeah, it's chill. Oh my God, I didn't even make
1:29:30
that. Connection.
1:29:31
Yeah, it's like you're going to want to let this breathe.
1:29:33
Yeah, he's like it'll. Pair nicely with.
1:29:35
Kathleen So yeah, they all have. To give their.
1:29:38
Thanks On an Instagram live video.
1:29:40
And Evan is first, like you said, because you know, he
1:29:44
started this all off with his viral video and then he tries to
1:29:48
give where their location is. He's like, we're in an old
1:29:51
house. And then of course, the the meat
1:29:54
hammer comes down on his head. Yeah, bashes it open.
1:29:58
And everybody's just liking the video and.
1:30:00
That's sociopathic, yeah. Would you think that it's real?
1:30:05
I could also like in this day and age, like this is like a
1:30:07
thing like you see shit like this all the time, like AR GS
1:30:10
where you you. Never know.
1:30:13
Yeah. Yeah.
1:30:15
I don't. I don't really know.
1:30:18
So let's see where we're at. Oh.
1:30:21
He gives Thomas a slice of Kathleen, and Jess is realizing
1:30:26
that the ring she got from McCarty is actually another
1:30:28
piece of tactical equipment, and it's got a knife in it.
1:30:31
So she uses it to saw through the rope.
1:30:33
And then she passes it over to Scuba, who saw us through the
1:30:37
rope as well, and then jumps up, hits John Harbor, and they go
1:30:40
running. And he follows.
1:30:42
They get into a scuffle, he stabs Scuba, Scuba's down for
1:30:46
the count, and he chases Jess through the wood.
1:30:48
She just barely makes it over a fence in time.
1:30:52
And when she does, she gets to the middle of town and finds
1:30:56
Eric pass out and bloody in the middle of the street.
1:31:00
And she's, like, trying to get him up.
1:31:01
And she looks over, sees the warehouse store closing and
1:31:03
somebody walking in. She sees John Carver.
1:31:05
Like, yeah. And when she goes in there, she
1:31:08
finds. Bobby in the John Carver mat,
1:31:10
like taking the John Carver mask and hat off.
1:31:12
And in that moment, Eric appears and he's like, OK, what's going
1:31:17
on? She's like, it's Bobby.
1:31:19
Bobby's in here. And he's like, OK, go outside.
1:31:21
And then she goes outside and we hear gunshots and that's when
1:31:25
the rest of the cops arrive. So the deputy.
1:31:29
Says that he is going to need Eric's service weapons since
1:31:32
rounds were fired so he doesn't have his gun anymore.
1:31:36
Thomas, Gabby and Scuba are all at the hospital, and Eric's plan
1:31:42
is that he's just going to take Jess to the hospital as well.
1:31:44
Just a moment. They're just finishing up
1:31:46
collecting some evidence. Like they've got Bobby's phone
1:31:48
and evidence back on the table, stuff like that.
1:31:50
They've got John Carpenter's. Phone still logged into John
1:31:54
Carpenter. John Carver's phone still logged
1:31:57
into the account, Yes, but they listed it as Bobby because at
1:32:00
that. Point.
1:32:01
He was right. That didn't even click.
1:32:03
Yeah, so Jess is there, left alone with Eric.
1:32:08
And then they start talking. And then she notices his shoes.
1:32:12
Yeah, she'd just been picking brambles.
1:32:13
Off of her own pants from her run through the woods.
1:32:16
And she looks down and sees the brambles on his pants and she
1:32:20
tries to say like, I just want to go and he looks down, sees
1:32:24
the brambles as well and he's like so close.
1:32:27
If only you were stuck on the fence of A.
1:32:28
Second longer. That's what it says.
1:32:31
So say that he had Bobby all dressed up in the outfit to be
1:32:35
set up as the killer, but he woke up and hit him with a tire
1:32:40
and it ran off. Yep, and this.
1:32:43
Is when he reveals that he and Amanda had had an affair and she
1:32:47
was. Pregnant with his.
1:32:48
Child And so when she died basically that took away what he
1:32:53
thought was going to be his family because he said Amanda
1:32:55
was planning to leave Mitch and she he's about to kill her and
1:33:00
she's like, hey, don't you want to know what I'm thankful for?
1:33:03
He's like, oh. OK, that was theatrical, but
1:33:08
sure. And she goes, I'm thankful that
1:33:09
we get good service in this warehouse and she had the phone
1:33:13
streaming the whole time. So they start to have.
1:33:18
Like a little scuffle. There and then as they're
1:33:20
scuffling, Bobby throws a baseball through the window and
1:33:23
it hits rehab then. Yeah, so.
1:33:27
They are trying to get. Out of the warehouse, it's like
1:33:29
a big cat and cat and mouse game.
1:33:32
They set a float to basically like overinflate, kind of create
1:33:38
an obstacle and whatnot. And they get into Bobby's
1:33:40
uncle's truck. And as they're starting to drive
1:33:42
away, Eric gets up to it and he wraps the tow line around a
1:33:46
pillar. And because it's, you know,
1:33:47
really strong, they can't really drive through it.
1:33:50
So he's getting up to the truck, he's about to attack.
1:33:54
But she found the musket and she, cuz they made this whole
1:33:59
point about how she'd learned to shoot a musket for one of the
1:34:01
past commercials. Her dad was big on authenticity
1:34:04
and she had to practice. So she, she is about to shoot
1:34:08
and at first you can see he's like, come on, really a musket.
1:34:11
And then she points it at the Turkey float and shoots that and
1:34:15
causes an explosion. Yeah, like a it's.
1:34:19
Not even like a gigantic explosion, No.
1:34:21
And he's not. Eric is not that far away from
1:34:25
Jess and Bobby who are both fine.
1:34:28
I don't know if it was in. The original scene, but we were
1:34:31
watching the alternate scene like the alternate ending here
1:34:34
and you can see him very clearly just jump forward and land on
1:34:36
the ground like it doesn't like blow him up in any like the
1:34:39
flames don't reach him at all. Yes, but.
1:34:43
You know, still we have cops talking later saying that
1:34:46
there's only ash inside that building.
1:34:48
No, nobody could have survived. But still, they're going to put
1:34:51
out a BOLO, so yeah, whatever. Jess and.
1:34:55
Ryan. It cuts to Jess and Ryan asleep
1:34:57
in bed and she hears a sound. She gets up and chips kid from
1:35:02
the closet. Eric on fire.
1:35:06
Yeah, yeah. In the extended scene, she.
1:35:09
Wakes up in the. Car yeah driving somewhere yeah
1:35:12
and the cop car like the. Cop is driving her to the hostel
1:35:14
or whatever. I'm glad that they cut that.
1:35:16
That wasn't really needed. Yeah, yeah, like you said, it
1:35:18
felt. Like a very.
1:35:18
Like, I know what you did last summer ending.
1:35:21
Yeah. And I think that really fits the
1:35:23
general mood of this movie. Yeah.
1:35:24
Is that right? And you know what?
1:35:27
I think I'll agree with you. And I will bump it up to 9.5.
1:35:30
Cool, I'm gonna keep it at 95. It's not quite a 10, but you
1:35:34
know, that's a really fucking good movie.
1:35:36
I love this movie a lot. Like I said, I.
1:35:39
I wish we cut down on a couple of characters so we could see
1:35:42
more of some of the other ones, you know, I guess like, yeah.
1:35:48
The ending could have been better.
1:35:50
I'm not too mad about the ending.
1:35:52
Well, I mean, just make it more believable.
1:35:54
You know, like, if you're going to try and sell it, like, oh,
1:35:57
the guy couldn't have survived this.
1:35:58
Whatever. Like, get him in a situation
1:36:01
where you actually are like, damn.
1:36:03
Like, is he dead? I don't know.
1:36:05
Also, there was a firefighter that walked out at the end.
1:36:08
Did you mention that? No.
1:36:10
Oh yeah, that. Just.
1:36:12
Notices that she thinks could be Eric because he's got a mask on
1:36:16
still and could be pulling an old Michael Myers where he got
1:36:19
like a uniform and snuck out. But I mean, I'm just trying to
1:36:25
think of things to change because we got to have something
1:36:27
to change. And here's a, say, focus on more
1:36:31
of the characters. Yeah.
1:36:34
But where would you? Do that even.
1:36:38
I don't know off the top of my head.
1:36:40
Yeah, it's just I. Guess you maybe?
1:36:43
Extend the movie a little bit, but.
1:36:44
Yeah, well, my thought is to cut some of the other.
1:36:47
Characters maybe, that we don't even just kind of focus on as
1:36:50
much that way. We can get.
1:36:51
A little bit more time with some of the others.
1:36:53
OK, I suppose you could do that, yeah.
1:36:55
Like we don't need the whole side plot about.
1:36:56
Evan's essay and Jacob no, you really don't like it was a
1:37:00
little. Bit of humor, but yeah, other
1:37:03
than that, it didn't really serve much of A purpose.
1:37:06
OK, cool. What did Italia think?
1:37:11
Well, she wanted to go outside. During the cold open, she also
1:37:15
thinks that people shouldn't behave like that on
1:37:17
Thanksgiving. And then she was pretty sleepy
1:37:20
for the rest of the movie. The cat got fed though and even
1:37:24
though Italia is not a cat herself, she is related to a few
1:37:28
cats so she appreciates that they got to eat and they weren't
1:37:32
killed. So I think Talia will give this
1:37:33
an 8 because the cat ate OK. That's appropriate.
1:37:39
Zoe's ultimate warrior. Dewey.
1:37:42
Dewey. Yeah, it is Dewey.
1:37:44
Yeah. That's a no brainer, yeah.
1:37:46
That's true. I didn't even think about that.
1:37:48
All right. What are your hopes?
1:37:50
And dreams for the upcoming sequel.
1:37:58
That's a good question. So like, are we doing Dream
1:38:01
sequel? Yeah, OK.
1:38:05
I think following. If we're winning in the tropes
1:38:10
of other movies, I think take it to college because it's like
1:38:15
Scream. 2. OK.
1:38:17
And I mean, I think they seem like they're at the end of their
1:38:21
high school career. Thomas, did he die?
1:38:24
No, he's. Yeah, He's alive.
1:38:26
Yeah. Right.
1:38:26
You said he's returning. Yeah.
1:38:28
OK. So like, I guess they could be
1:38:30
in college, but I mean, they're coming home for Thanksgiving
1:38:33
dinner. So that type of thing, I think
1:38:37
it would be funny. To set it.
1:38:39
On Black Friday and have like a whole elaborate trap inside of
1:38:43
the store. That would be interesting, Yeah,
1:38:46
because. Like that's.
1:38:47
Gonna be so wild because there's so many people like like and it
1:38:51
would be so easy. To.
1:38:53
Like it's kind of that element of like things like the movie
1:38:57
haunt, you know, where they're out in public and you feel like
1:39:00
you should be safe being around that many people, but actually
1:39:03
it's like that many more people around you that could cause
1:39:05
destruction that also I wonder if.
1:39:08
Like I mean, cause like if you're doing it on a Black
1:39:11
Friday, it's going to be chaos. So like maybe you have a
1:39:14
collection moment where you kill off like the crowd and one big
1:39:18
moment like a big chunk of them and have like a chunk of them
1:39:23
left that is like the core group that we follow.
1:39:27
I don't want that until closer to the end though.
1:39:29
No, no, OK, because I want. To have enough like.
1:39:33
Playing around with the large crowds, OK.
1:39:38
I guess you can make that work. Yeah.
1:39:42
Yeah, you can maybe make that work.
1:39:44
It'd be interesting. I'd like to see that.
1:39:48
Who did? You relate to.
1:39:50
I relate to heaven with the. Fight video stuff, honestly,
1:39:54
like that's the type of shit that I'm into and he's clearly
1:39:57
into it too, so I really wanna see his YouTube channel.
1:40:03
I relate to. Yulia cuz my mom speaks Russian
1:40:07
and I fucking love the good Q-tip moment you also do.
1:40:12
Contacts and creep me. Out with your contacts too.
1:40:15
Intentionally creep you out with my.
1:40:16
Contacts you did the other day, I just made a.
1:40:18
Point of telling you that I was. Putting my contacts in that's
1:40:21
intentionally creeping me out with your.
1:40:22
Contacts. I want cute little frog contact.
1:40:27
Case liquor, though, yeah. OK, you got a review for us, I.
1:40:32
Do wait. No, no.
1:40:34
Tagline Tagline. Yeah, yeah, I almost wanna
1:40:38
steal. Texas Chainsaw.
1:40:39
It will survive in what will be left with them.
1:40:42
That's kinda good. I mean it's really good though
1:40:44
obviously finger licking good. I think something with that
1:40:50
carved. Because you get some carving
1:40:53
going on with cutting people and also John Carver is the killer.
1:40:57
Save room for dessert. And death.
1:41:01
OK, I like that. That's kind of fitting for this
1:41:04
type of movie here Thanksgiving Thanksgiving OK got reviews now
1:41:09
yes so as. I said before this is a an IMDb
1:41:14
review and I picked something that was oh boy wrong tab.
1:41:21
This is a 2 out of 10 because all of the one out of 10s were
1:41:27
less than constructive. It's just a holiday themed.
1:41:32
Scream slash I know what you did last summer and not as good as
1:41:35
either. The performances were decent
1:41:37
enough, but that wasn't enough to overcome the terrible
1:41:39
material. Every cliche and trope you can
1:41:41
think of gets nailed, including the ham fisted 1 liners that
1:41:44
were only somewhat clever in the late 90s early 2000s.
1:41:48
As a fan of some of Eli's work, this was a huge disappointment
1:41:52
if you are a fan. Of the genre you'll correctly.
1:41:54
Guess the killer within the first few minutes of the film,
1:41:56
then spend the rest of the time raging at the cluelessly written
1:41:58
characters as to why they can't figure out who it is.
1:42:01
There are better ways to waste your hour and 45 minutes.
1:42:04
Do yourself a favor and skip it, OK?
1:42:07
So I. Picked that.
1:42:09
Specifically because of what I said at the beginning where Eli
1:42:12
Roth made a movie he wanted to watch and you can definitely
1:42:16
feel his love for the schlocky grindhouse stuff.
1:42:19
Even though this isn't a grindhouse movie, you can feel
1:42:23
where that inspiration is coming from with it including the like
1:42:27
terrible 1 liners and the over the top kills and people missing
1:42:31
like the obvious hints. It also does feel like a tribute
1:42:34
to those 90s. Slashers too, though, like that.
1:42:37
I know he the last summer in the Scream.
1:42:39
I would say the only difference between those two that I would
1:42:41
agree with is like, I don't think the cast of the
1:42:46
protagonists that we follow are as engaging as the ones from
1:42:51
those movies. Yeah, like, really, I don't care
1:42:54
so much about Jessica. They didn't really build her up
1:42:56
as like a super compelling character.
1:42:58
Yeah, we don't get a lot of them as.
1:42:59
Characters. But again, here's the thing, is
1:43:03
that those are the types of movies that Eli Roth loves.
1:43:06
He famously loves to tell the story about how they watched
1:43:08
Mother's Day in his bar mitzvah. Yeah, I love this too.
1:43:11
So. I think I.
1:43:13
Get that from a point of like I want to watch movies that have
1:43:16
XYZ but also you're watching an Eli Roth movie.
1:43:20
He made the movie he wanted to watch, and if it's not for you,
1:43:24
that is fine and great and dandy, but I think this is
1:43:28
exactly what he wanted to put out into the world.
1:43:30
Yeah, I agree and I'm. Happy that he did it because you
1:43:34
know, it's my jam too. His stuff right there.
1:43:36
The type of movie that he made is kind of made for me, yes.
1:43:39
But if you have a different style.
1:43:40
And movie, this probably won't be a movie for you.
1:43:43
No, if people. Sold it to you as like a scream.
1:43:46
I know you did last summer and then you get this.
1:43:48
Like, I wouldn't say you should be disappointed, but maybe if
1:43:52
you did want, like, people to follow that you care about,
1:43:55
maybe that's the thing that's missing.
1:43:57
Yeah, that would be the only thing that I could think of
1:43:59
because it nails everything else pretty well.
1:44:02
OK, that's fair enough. Yeah.
1:44:04
Do we get any listener? Reviews.
1:44:05
We do. We got quite a bit cool.
1:44:08
So. Let's start.
1:44:11
Off over on Instagram. First up, cube saves.
1:44:16
Says nobody in Plymouth sounds like that.
1:44:19
South Shore accents are a lot scummier.
1:44:23
I'll. Take your word for it.
1:44:24
Yeah, I. This it's.
1:44:27
Probably how like there are some people up north.
1:44:29
I think all Southern accents sound the same.
1:44:31
I feel like this is our version of that.
1:44:33
Probably, Yeah. I didn't even consider.
1:44:35
That. But yeah, there's probably some
1:44:38
big differences with that right there.
1:44:40
It was very. It felt stereotypical, yeah, But
1:44:44
you know, I think I didn't have a problem with it.
1:44:48
I just think it was. Sam Adams Commercial.
1:44:50
Your cousin from Boston? Yeah, Michael E Howard says
1:44:55
there. Will be no leftovers despite a
1:44:57
few funny Turkey time movies. We have been in need of a really
1:45:00
good slasher for a while. Thanksgiving brings all the
1:45:03
fixings. More.
1:45:04
We'll have some of the kills, trampling death and cooking
1:45:06
someone for dinner and the fun tone. 8 out of 10 for me.
1:45:10
Nice. Yeah, those.
1:45:12
Are I think. This movie has some amazing
1:45:14
kills for sure. They go hard on that stuff
1:45:17
because I think that they know that that's the bread and butter
1:45:20
of yeah, what people really want from this.
1:45:23
Also, you know that who don't aspect is kind of cool too.
1:45:27
But yeah, I don't know. I like this too.
1:45:29
I like the vibe of it too. The whole tone over on OK.
1:45:36
Did that? No.
1:45:37
Here we go over on blue. Sky, we have Joe Frecotron.
1:45:41
This is his name. Who says I'm not an EOI?
1:45:45
Roth Films. Guy.
1:45:46
But this one is incredible. I thought too much time had
1:45:49
passed since Grindhouse for this to deliver on the fun of that
1:45:52
fake trailer, and I was wrong. The Black Friday scene was
1:45:55
easily one of the best of 2023. Big time my buddy Valentine
1:45:59
vibes. It's a nine out of 10.
1:46:00
I didn't even think of that, but yeah, I could see that too.
1:46:04
All right, you know what? I actually, there were moments
1:46:06
where I mixed up scenes in my head.
1:46:09
I was thinking of Carter being one of the cops in this for some
1:46:12
reason. Carter your Dick because?
1:46:15
He's a cop in the my. Bloody Valentine remake.
1:46:17
Yeah. And then War Zombie says this
1:46:20
movie was great. Wacky, over the top corn kills,
1:46:23
real call back to a classic slasher.
1:46:25
Great to also have another Thanksgiving horror movie highly
1:46:28
recommended. All right, yeah, I agree.
1:46:31
I mean, you know, they were mentioning how there was a lack
1:46:34
of it too. They were in disbelief that they
1:46:37
hadn't really, nobody had really capitalized on Thanksgiving as a
1:46:41
horror movie before. So.
1:46:43
And I think this is the. Thing that we talked about, like
1:46:46
you and I talk about in our personal lives, how they're
1:46:50
like, we go from Halloween movies to Christmas movies
1:46:53
pretty quickly in our house because we save the handful of
1:46:56
Thanksgiving movies we have for like the week of and part of the
1:47:00
week before. So we don't, you know, we don't
1:47:03
run out of them before Thanksgiving happens.
1:47:05
And we have so many Christmas movies both of like horror and
1:47:10
like the cheesy Hallmark, Netflix, Lifetime.
1:47:12
There's plenty that we've not even seen yet.
1:47:14
Yes, and so. Like.
1:47:16
I'd remember one year we were trying to like, look for even a
1:47:19
cheesy Hallmark Thanksgiving movies, and we found one and it
1:47:22
was like a pumpkin pie contest. No, I saw one on Pluto earlier.
1:47:25
Today. Perfect.
1:47:27
Yeah, it was playing. I was like, oh.
1:47:28
This is cool. But I just feel like there's so
1:47:30
much that's. Available there for that kind of
1:47:32
stuff too and I think it would be interesting to explore that
1:47:35
some. So it's it it just.
1:47:37
Is kind of really surprising that people like it's it really
1:47:42
isn't overlooked holiday and then there's a lot that can be
1:47:44
talked about. With it, and I think especially
1:47:46
with like, horror, my God, there's so much that is just
1:47:50
able to be there and be unpacked.
1:47:52
And like, we've only kind of skimmed the surface of it with
1:47:55
him cooking a human alive. Like, think about some of the
1:47:58
other gnarly shit you could do that's like food themed kills.
1:48:01
Yeah. I mean, I think it's prime time.
1:48:03
For a cannibal movie, yeah. So for sure.
1:48:07
I I just think there's a lot of. Opportunities.
1:48:09
So it would be really nice to see this get a little bit of an
1:48:11
uptick in in movie recognition. I wanna see.
1:48:15
I wanna see a. Wrong turn.
1:48:16
Sequel. Set on Thanksgiving.
1:48:18
Oh my God. Honestly, I wanna.
1:48:20
See how they would handle that. Do you think they celebrate?
1:48:24
Thanksgiving. I think every day is
1:48:26
Thanksgiving. For them, they're grateful for
1:48:28
all of their food. They hoot and.
1:48:30
Holler and hold. Hands and give thanks man.
1:48:35
Yeah, they just live life like Thanksgivings every day, all
1:48:39
right, I think. That might be it.
1:48:42
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1:48:43
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1:48:54
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Yeah. Yeah.
1:50:02
This is cool. Yeah.
1:50:03
I hope everybody's having a good Thanksgiving.
1:50:05
Hope you guys. And if you're listening to this
1:50:07
after Thanksgiving, you had a good Thanksgiving.
1:50:09
Yeah, Hope. You're looking forward to?
1:50:11
The the remainder of the holidays that are going on and
1:50:14
Black Friday and all kinds of other shits.
1:50:16
So this is a good movie to watch.
1:50:18
You don't have to watch it around Thanksgiving time just,
1:50:21
but it helps if you do. It really does.
1:50:23
Help if you do. So, yeah, All right, All right.
1:50:26
Thanks. Time.
1:50:27
See ya. Bye.
1:50:41
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