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Clydesdale Media Roundtable - Is Old Dave Back and is that a good or bad thing? · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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What's going on, everybody?
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Now that's abrupt end.
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Need to figure out a smoother transition.
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What's going on, everybody?
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We are here live on the
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Clydesdale Media Roundtable.
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Corey Leonard has been here
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since 1145 a.m.
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waiting to get in to talk smack.
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I don't know if we'll let him or not,
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but he's been here for a
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half an hour waiting.
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I mean, he can talk smack,
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but I don't think he did a
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pump and run this weekend.
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I think he, I need to know his age group.
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He's your age group, Charlie.
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We've already discussed this.
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I think he's 46.
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Listen, I don't remember.
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Some people say 48.
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Some people say 46.
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Some people say 26, really.
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So let's get it out of the way.
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Corey posted a time.
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Pretty good time for an old man.
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See, I was right.
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Seven in April.
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Fair enough.
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And he sent that to me.
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He said,
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send this on to the people's champ.
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So my question becomes, is it,
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are we going a week per week winner?
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Or overall fitness?
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I think you have to do overall fitness.
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All scoring.
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All scoring.
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What are we talking about?
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Well,
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CrossFit is a test of fitness and
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this is one test.
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So I don't think you can
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measure on one test.
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And this is probably Corey's wheelhouse.
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Well, that's good to know.
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Yeah.
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Jeff, why, why, why, why did you do twice?
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And do you think that was the right call?
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Meaning like,
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did you improve that much
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that it made it worth it?
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i have to know so I know a
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little bit this weekend
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okay um and he did it once
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uh in his garage I believe
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and then went to an
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affiliate to do it the
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second time okay I believe
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jamie did the same thing
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jamie did it twice at a gym
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once at hers once at so she's going team
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so she had to do it on
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sunday with the team to
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have video of her doing it
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at the affiliate they're
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affiliated with did she
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improve she did 20 seconds
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I would take in her first
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score yeah yeah yeah her
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first score was 710 second
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score was 650. yeah wow
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but her teammate Haley
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improved a minute 20 from
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Friday to Sunday.
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Yeah.
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See, I didn't care enough.
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We know somebody that improved that much.
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Yeah.
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I know a couple of people.
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I know someone who improved
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like five seconds.
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I saw somebody that like,
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are you talking about Wade?
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Yes.
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Five seconds.
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Why redo something for five seconds?
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listen like 2014 I repeated
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a workout and improved by
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like three seconds and I
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was like I am never ever
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doing that again it was
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awful the best part is I
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was his judge on the first
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one and I'm like there's
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literally nowhere from
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today for the next four
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days that you would improve
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I for sure think I could
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have improved however I
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didn't care enough
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That was my other thing is I
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stopped caring in the round of 15s.
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And I just, that's like,
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I literally was just kind of stopped,
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you know, like it was breathing.
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I was bent over.
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And then my judge was like,
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so are you going to go?
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And I was like, fine.
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And so then I did do more
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than stopped again.
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I was like, I really just don't.
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Here's what got me to finish.
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The thought of having to
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redo it is what got me to finish.
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So what I find funny is the
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way you're explaining it is
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exactly how Carolyn Prevost
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said it was going to go.
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Okay.
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She said the workout was
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going to start on the second set of 21s.
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And after the first set of 15s,
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you were going to check
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your state and decide,
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were you going to go or not go?
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I decided to not go.
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I definitely did.
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Well, I will say this one,
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It didn't seem like it was
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crushing people to the point.
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You could do it twice and not be.
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You could.
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A lot of people, though,
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I didn't experience this,
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but I know a lot of people
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had a lot of lower back
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problems from a lot of
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hinging or I think from
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muscles to snapping it.
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And so that, I think,
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would hinder some people
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from repeating it.
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Judy says Amy, whatever works.
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I mean, I got it done.
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It's done with check moving on, you know,
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and I saw this thing, you know,
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because like, I told you that this year,
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my goals were different with the open.
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Like I've always been pretty
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competitive with the open,
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but right now I'm just, like I said,
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just doing the open.
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It's my 11th year just to do it.
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But I was talking to another
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coach that I work with and
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she had been out for an
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injury and is just coming back.
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And she was feeling kind of
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devastated about her score.
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Cause she was like,
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I'm just not where I used to be.
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And, you know,
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looking at the percentages
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on the board and I was like, uh, uh,
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make Watts great again,
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shared this yesterday,
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but it was like somebody
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out there wishes they could
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have your score, you know?
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So just take this and enjoy
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the next two weeks.
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And, and she was like, you're right.
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Like you're right.
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So, so this is what the open is all about.
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We had a lady who never
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snatched 35 before finished
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the whole damn thing yesterday.
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That was quite awesome.
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That is really cool.
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And you're right.
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Like,
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I think sometimes we surround
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ourselves with these fit
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people that go to the gym all the time.
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And then your perception is
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skewed as to what is a
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great accomplishment.
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Right.
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And there are people, we are,
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CrossFitters are the tip of the spear.
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The rest of the world
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couldn't do anything close
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to what happened this week in the open.
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Mm-hmm.
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So I think it's important to remember that,
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that if you're out there
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trying and you put in what you can,
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that that's a huge effort
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and that's a big victory.
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Now,
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someone that's like trying to compete
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on a team like Jamie and Haley,
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they were trying to get the
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best time so that their
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team qualifies for quarters,
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which is harder this year
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than an individual
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qualifying for quarters.
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Cause there's just,
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there's less room for teams.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think that,
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and there are times when I
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have repeated a workout, you know,
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like I've talked about this before,
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but it's like, oh,
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if I went again and that
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bought me three more minutes of work,
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you know what I mean?
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Like it takes you into the next,
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then that is worth it for me to read,
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possibly redo this for 20 more seconds.
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Hmm.
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This time it wasn't worth it
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because of my goals this year.
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But I think we definitely
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need to hit on Charlie did
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the pump and run at the Arnold.
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Yes.
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He pumped and he ran.
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What went better?
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Well, the obvious thing went better.
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So they capped you.
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I heard they kept you at 30.
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And you kept out.
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Everybody kept a 30.
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I did cap out.
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I would rather than... Is that unusual?
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No.
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I don't think so.
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A lot of good benchers at the Arnold?
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Well, it's all on your body weight.
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And if you get a guy or gal
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who's light looking... So
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the guy who won was about
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140 maybe.
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So he ripped those off.
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Then he ran a 16 minute 5K.
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So his total time was a minute and 26.
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What?
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So, you know, he was a little guy.
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I saw him take off because I
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was near the front for whatever reason.
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I have no idea why I was standing there.
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It just made my life more
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miserable as people were flying by me.
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Yep.
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It's not a good spot to be.
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75-year-old ladies are just like, let's go,
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buddy.
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No.
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And I'm trying to grab their shirt like,
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you're not going.
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You're not passing me, old lady.
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She didn't have it.
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Legs were like, no, we don't do this.
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We're not runners.
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How was the hip?
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Oh, wow.
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Hip was good.
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Quads, not so much.
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Hamstrings, not so much.
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I'm really proud of you for
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doing it because I think it
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was good that you set that
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goal and you crushed that goal.
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But I want to talk about
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something funny also that
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you and I talked about
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offline that was about,
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and I think Scott should
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weigh in on this because he knows this.
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I've given him this lesson before.
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But Scott,
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Charlie wore the race shirt to the race.
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Prison.
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They gave it to me.
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I'm like,
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outside of me not being the one doing.
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Well,
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let's put it out to the audience
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because I wore a race shirt
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to an event one time.
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Amy schooled me being an old
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school runner that you
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don't get to wear the shirt
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till you earn it.
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And you don't earn it until
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the end of that race.
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Isn't that what the medal's for?
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No.
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See,
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that's why everybody knew you were new
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to this.
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Because everybody's like,
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that guy's wearing a shirt.
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See, that's exactly what I said to him.
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Did I not say that's like
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wearing a band t-shirt to the concert?
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Exactly.
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Listen,
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I'm wearing my Taylor Swift t-shirt
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when I go to Ares.
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I'll tell you that right now.
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So, Corey,
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you could wear the race shirt
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after you complete the race,
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like out and about when
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you're grocery shopping,
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but you don't wear it to the race.
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But then that's worse.
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Like, look at me.
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I ran a race today.
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Do you wear the bib, too,
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while you're at the grocery store?
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No, no.
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See,
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I'm glad we got everybody on the same
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page.
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Now Charlie knows.
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He was like, why didn't you tell me?
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And now I'm in the front row.
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Hold on.
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Hold on.
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Do you wear an open shirt during the open?
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That's different.
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Why?
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That's more of a uniform.
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No.
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You're doing the open.
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Why are you wearing an open shirt?
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I mean, that's just different.
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Well,
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speaking of someone else who competed
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at the Arnold, Andrew Sten,
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Olympic lifting,
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Friday night at the Arnold, podiumed.
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Whoa.
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Dad.
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Third place.
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It's Olympic lifting you speak of.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Um,
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was that your first time Andrew and
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were you,
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how did it feel being on the
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stage and the lights and
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people watching you?
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Cause I can't even do a
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regular lift at the gym
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with people watching me.
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65 pounds.
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Right.
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I mean, 65 pounds.
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I'm like, oh gosh.
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Apparently he did better
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than you because he podiumed.
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Yeah.
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Oh, he's lifted before.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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That's pretty awesome.
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Yeah.
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Got some fit people in chat apparently.
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Yeah, we do.
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He said you really don't notice it.
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I think I'd notice it.
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Although where you sit is like dark.
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They like keep it.
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Yeah.
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You got bright light.
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Into the crowd much.
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Yeah.
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You see those judges eyeballing you.
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Sitting in their Burko
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loungers with the say red
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light or white light.
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just staring at him waiting
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for it to hit it.
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Like, let's go, bro.
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This thing's heavy.
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So, yeah.
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So I want to get to the
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results kind of real quick.
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And then there's something I
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really want to talk about.
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Um, we, uh,
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it's weird that Charlie hasn't
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shared his time yet, by the way, too.
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Um,
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But before we do that, so here we go.
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Here's the top 10 from the open.
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Oh, yeah.
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Colton Mertens takes the victory.
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Taylor Self,
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if you have not seen that video,
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him and Dallin and what happened after,
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good Lord.
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I didn't see what happened afterwards,
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but wasn't he going against
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other people too?
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So this one, he's going against Hopper.
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Next one, he's going against Colton.
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Okay, got it, got it, got it.
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so he finished they were
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interviewing him and Dallin
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and then all of a sudden it
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all came up and he just
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started throwing up into a
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waste can and Dallin the
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faces Dallin makes and the
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smell that must have come
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off it were so bad of
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Taylor yes but Dallin's
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right beside him getting interviewed
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So if you haven't seen it,
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you have to fast forward it
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to that part of the, that part.
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Okay.
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Alan's faces.
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Okay.
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It's so worth it.
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They had plans to go out for
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dinner after like everybody.
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Taylor's like, I'm done.
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Nope.
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Stay here.
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See,
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I don't ever want to work out that hard.
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Well,
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and apparently that's what it takes
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to get second in the world.
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Sure.
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But I'm okay with, you know,
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26,000 in the world.
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Yeah.
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What was Colton's time though?
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I want to know.
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5 and 17 or something crazy.
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Okay.
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Because the other day I was like,
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just looking at,
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I was looking at the
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leaderboard just to see,
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and there was people on
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there with like 419.
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And I was like, I need the video, please.
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Yeah.
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There's no way.
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um taylor second colin boss
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hard third great name like
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if I had a lot if I could
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pick a last name boss hard
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would be like the one I
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would want boss hard and
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then thomas strider stroyer
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Luis Oscar Moya in fifth,
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tied with Carlos Ferreira Coloma.
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Bailey Martin in seventh.
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Look at that.
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Coming out of the cryogenic freezer,
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just in time to get an eighth.
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Austin Hatfield, eighth.
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Mitch Wagner, tenth.
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So how may these make the games?
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See, Aaron, that's exactly me,
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except Colton kept going
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and did his whole workout
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in the time I probably finished my 21s.
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I have not seen the Colton interview yet.
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I can't wait to.
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Tuesdays are my busiest day.
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I have meetings all freaking day.
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The only time I don't is
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right at this moment.
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So let's look at the women.
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We're glad to have you.
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Yeah, let's do that.
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Women.
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Sure.
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Sort by.
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Oh, my goodness.
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Miriam Von Rohr.
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Oh.
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First with a 539.
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Oh.
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Julia Hannaford, second.
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Alzine Irwin.
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holy crap fee I'm sure fisa
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goffey fourth sahir kaya
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fifth jamie sixth freya
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moose bruger with a seventh
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grace walton eighth
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christina eggerbeck a
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kristin holty kristin holta
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eighth wow nobody tall I
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like it nobody tall exactly
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did you get suckers
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a couple young bucks in
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there with freya and grace
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um a couple older people
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like kristen showing she
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still has it you can't say
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old people I know when
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she's like 34 I think yeah
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or retired yeah retired so
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uh yeah pretty cool there
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but this person at the top is from sweden
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Am I right on my geography flag?
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Hey, I'm sneaking out.
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Bye.
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Is she related to the Victor Von Doom?
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I don't know.
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I'm just trying to pronounce it.
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So those are the top ten so far as we sit.
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Day one.
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Day one.
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And I'm sure there'll be
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some video review done on these.
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But again,
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like we were talking off air
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before we came on,
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none of the nitpicky stuff
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matters anymore.
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Top 25%,
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everybody's going to get in that
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needs to get in.
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Where it's going to come
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into play a lot is in
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quarterfinals because
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getting into semifinals is
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going to be tough this year.
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Yeah.
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So there's that.
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dang judy reed wanting uh
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andrew to be her olympic
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lifting coach there you go
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andrew is not in columbus
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but he is in ohio and I'll
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let him fill in the rest if
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he wants um so do you want
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to disclose your time to
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cory or are you just
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keeping it tight to the vest
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Well, if you can look it up,
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my alias is under Josh Bridges.
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So I will share my time with
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Corey so he can know.
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All right.
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But he got the victory this week, right?
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He did get the victory this week.
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Okay.
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The one thing,
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there's one thing I really
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wanted to talk about this week.
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And that is yesterday,
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Dave did his weekend review.
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And in that weekend review,
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he made some statements that really,
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really upset me.
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Um, and it's one of the reasons.
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so when it comes today for
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me there's a lot of great
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things he's done but
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there's some stuff that
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really like sticks in my
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craw about what he did in
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the old days that I was
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hoping would get better and
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I do think they've gotten
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better but when he was on
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as we can review someone
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asked about should he
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promote hiller's haley adams video
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And he started that with,
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Hiller shits on us.
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Why should I promote his video?
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And my response to that is,
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just because Hiller shits
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on you doesn't mean the
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content in the video isn't
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worth sharing and isn't
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good for CrossFit.
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It's not promoting Hiller.
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That video is promoting Haley,
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and it's promoting CrossFit.
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And you are...
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you are shoving that away
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because someone said
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something bad about you.
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Like, did they even show Hillary?
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That's the stuff that pisses me off.
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He then further goes into
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the Week in Review and says,
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if people want to whine
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about getting into the games,
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then you shouldn't have a
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tone with us that is...
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shitting on us or done in a
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tone that's negative then
22:05
you'll go to the bottom of
22:06
the list or you won't get
22:07
in so when you make
22:11
statements like that it's a
22:13
third party media basically saying
22:17
And again, he went on a rant about this.
22:21
I'm just ranting back that
22:23
that sucks for third party media.
22:26
You should be able to say
22:28
your opinion about what
22:29
things have gone on and
22:31
what has occurred and not
22:33
be blackballed because of
22:34
it in the sport.
22:39
Let's go back.
22:40
This doesn't just happen
22:42
with media with Dave.
22:45
This happened with the
22:46
fittest man in the world eventually.
22:49
At the time he took second place,
22:51
he was not invited to the Invitational.
22:59
He was passed over for Jason Kalipa.
23:02
He was put into...
23:05
a status where he did not
23:07
have a good relationship
23:09
with CrossFit for the years
23:11
that he was champion,
23:13
all because of being
23:14
blackballed because he said things,
23:18
and I believe this in my heart,
23:19
he said things against
23:21
CrossFit in the behind the scenes,
23:23
in the documentaries,
23:25
in the years he didn't win.
23:26
So CrossFit passes him up.
23:31
takes Kalipa instead,
23:32
and then we have no
23:33
relationship with the
23:34
champion and CrossFit for
23:36
the five years the guy wins the title.
23:42
When you hang out with
23:44
athletes and then they post
23:46
a video that you can't see
23:48
or is blatantly against the
23:50
rules of the competition, you say,
23:52
but they met,
23:53
they showed us they had the capacity,
23:56
then you're showing
23:57
favoritism in another way.
24:01
if CrossFit ever wants to be
24:03
an elite sport and to grow,
24:08
this shit's got to stop.
24:10
Like the NFL can't go around
24:13
telling everybody who says
24:15
something negative about them, sorry,
24:16
you can't come to the game on Sunday.
24:23
Yeah.
24:25
Now, we do it in a way that,
24:30
That's not like is in your faces, Hiller.
24:33
But we say negative things
24:34
about CrossFit all the time.
24:37
But we follow the rules.
24:39
We do everything we can when we're there.
24:41
I just...
24:45
This is the stuff that when he got let go,
24:48
I said, I'm sad to see him go,
24:50
but I'm excited about the
24:51
opportunity of where we can
24:52
go because this little stuff is,
24:56
are things that are holding
24:57
back the sport and its ability to grow.
25:01
When he came back,
25:02
I was willing to give him a fair shake.
25:04
Rich said in a, in a,
25:06
in his podcast that he was
25:08
excited for Dave to come back,
25:09
but hoped he grew in the
25:11
time away and things like
25:13
this would change.
25:16
So this wasn't noticed just
25:17
by me or other people in the media world.
25:21
This was noticed by
25:24
four-time CrossFit Games
25:25
champion and legend Rich Froning.
25:27
Other people said it when Dave came back,
25:29
that they hoped he grew.
25:33
And when you go off on a
25:36
riff like that in a week in
25:37
review representing CrossFit,
25:39
it's bad for the sport.
25:44
Hiller has every right to
25:45
say whatever he wants to say,
25:47
and we have the same right
25:49
to turn it off or turn it on.
25:52
But he shouldn't be
25:53
blackballed or having
25:55
access taken away from him
25:57
because he was critical of the sport.
26:00
The man is done,
26:01
and I wrestle with this all the time.
26:03
His Athena show is freaking awesome.
26:06
His stuff with Hayley Adams,
26:07
the stuff he did with...
26:10
with Joe,
26:11
the affiliate owner up in Wisconsin,
26:14
was next level.
26:16
All of that stuff,
26:17
you can't throw that stuff away.
26:19
And all of that is helping
26:20
CrossFit as a whole.
26:27
So there, that's my point.
26:30
We shouldn't fear backlash
26:33
if we say something against CrossFit.
26:39
We all want it to be better.
26:44
That's why we talk about it.
26:51
And they put themselves in
26:52
situations where they get
26:54
talked about because when
26:56
you make a standard for an
26:57
event and then you show it
26:59
to the world and none of
27:02
the four participants do it
27:04
the way that you describe
27:05
to the rest of the world,
27:08
You're going to get made fun of.
27:11
You're going to get talked about.
27:14
Not a single one of the
27:14
athletes were facing away
27:16
from the dumbbell when it started.
27:18
That is the standard that
27:19
was put out there.
27:21
Come on.
27:23
And then Dave, in that week in review,
27:25
also stated that are their
27:28
media companies fine
27:29
because they got a million
27:30
views on that open announcement?
27:34
They got a million views on
27:35
the open announcement
27:36
because people were dying
27:37
to see what the workout was.
27:38
Right.
27:39
Not because of the quality of the media.
27:40
Right.
27:44
And it spoke to the base.
27:45
It didn't bring anybody in.
27:46
New.
27:50
That Hayley Adams video has
27:51
a potential to bring new
27:52
people in because of the
27:54
way it focused on the
27:56
affiliate helping her in Virginia,
27:59
the relationship she's formed with them,
28:00
and how that has made her
28:02
feel like a part of a community again.
28:08
All of that stuff helps CrossFit.
28:13
So, I don't know.
28:17
That really upset me last
28:18
night when I saw that and I
28:22
had to say something
28:23
because we should not be in
28:25
fear of what we say about
28:27
CrossFit on this show.
28:29
In my opinion,
28:30
we are respectful and we're
28:31
going to continue to be that way,
28:33
but we're going to voice
28:34
our opinions when something
28:36
is wrong or something needs fixed.
28:44
So there's that.
28:45
I guess that's Scott riffs
28:47
in the middle of a round table.
28:49
The riffs in the round table.
28:52
Well said.
28:54
Any thoughts on that, Charlie?
28:55
I know you've been around
28:57
the game a long time.
28:59
Yeah, no, I agree.
29:01
I mean, it, I mean, it's,
29:03
it becomes a level of
29:04
pettiness that you just, at some point,
29:08
if you want to grow, you can't do that.
29:13
Um,
29:14
I mean, like you said, I mean,
29:15
everything you said is correct.
29:17
You can't just because
29:18
somebody disagrees with your opinion,
29:19
you can't, well, I'll show you.
29:21
Okay.
29:24
Well, that's why we're here.
29:29
And at the end of the day, I'm going to,
29:30
I mean,
29:31
I just see how this turns out
29:32
because mayhem said a lot
29:35
of things about CrossFit in
29:37
their last podcast.
29:40
Yeah.
29:42
And that was kind of
29:43
referenced in this along with Hiller.
29:45
But I bet you the way it turned,
29:50
I will be excited to see
29:50
how it turns out.
29:52
And if both Mayhem and
29:54
Hiller get the same treatment,
29:56
whatever direction it goes in.
29:58
Based on friendships and such.
30:02
Correct.
30:06
Now he's not doing the next one, right?
30:10
Your guy is, man.
30:13
Who?
30:15
Seth Rollins.
30:17
Is he?
30:18
Yeah.
30:19
I think I called that.
30:21
Seth Rollins.
30:23
Seth Rollins.
30:23
Whoa.
30:25
He lost power at the TV station.
30:28
Yeah.
30:29
It's always fun.
30:29
There it is again.
30:32
Um, yeah,
30:33
I think that that's actually
30:35
going to be cool.
30:36
I hope,
30:37
I hope he brings every bit of the
30:38
WWE to the announcement.
30:40
Oh,
30:40
he's going to be Seth fricking Rollins
30:42
for sure.
30:43
Yeah.
30:46
I don't want just a guy reading a card.
30:48
Like I want full character, full,
30:52
like let's bring it.
30:56
Yeah.
30:57
Glasses, whole show, weird outfits.
31:03
Mark Moss, our friend from Uplift,
31:08
is in the comments, and he's asking,
31:09
do you think that Rich and
31:11
TDC are hashing it out?
31:17
I don't know yet.
31:20
I don't think that Dave or
31:23
Rich are the people that
31:25
reach out to talk about this stuff.
31:27
They'll do it when they
31:28
eventually see each other.
31:30
Like Rich and...
31:34
What's his name, dude?
31:35
Matt?
31:36
Yeah.
31:37
And we ran into each other.
31:38
Let's just get this out of the way.
31:39
Picture shaking hands and let's move on.
31:42
That awkward.
31:45
Michael Scott handshake.
31:50
They may text kind of like,
31:53
why'd you do that?
31:55
Why'd you say that?
31:57
But who knows?
32:04
It'll be like the games or something.
32:06
They'll see each other.
32:10
And I guess, like,
32:11
while talking about that,
32:12
here's my beef with the way
32:14
media is handled at the games.
32:17
They treat media as all one entity.
32:23
Right?
32:23
Whether you're a camera operator,
32:25
a photographer, a podcaster, a news guy,
32:31
whatever your role is,
32:33
you're all treated as media.
32:37
my opinion you should be
32:38
split like I don't need to
32:40
be the one taking pictures
32:41
so I don't need a front row
32:42
seat right there's no pit
32:46
at this year at the games
32:47
so the front row will be
32:49
photographers and
32:50
videographers if I have
32:52
Rosie or Jess down there
32:56
and Teddy that's who I need
32:58
down in that front row
32:59
right I should be in a press box
33:04
up top being able to watch
33:06
the event but having my
33:08
laptop and being able to
33:09
type stuff up get news out
33:12
do a quick interview in the
33:13
hallway if I need to right
33:16
that's what I need and they
33:18
seem to like look at all of
33:20
media as some they need in
33:22
the pit so I I've thought
33:30
about emailing our our contact there
33:34
And just throwing that out there.
33:37
So has Seven never said
33:39
anything bad about CrossFit?
33:42
Oh, yeah.
33:44
But he's okay.
33:46
Well, we don't know.
33:47
He has not gotten approval for this year.
33:53
But he did behind the scenes.
33:56
Correct.
33:57
Correct.
33:59
And what he'll say, like,
34:00
and I agree with him.
34:01
He was respectful doing all that stuff.
34:03
He didn't, like, shove a camera too far.
34:07
And he said he cut some
34:09
stuff that he thought was
34:10
questionable to go out to the public.
34:14
And everything that he did
34:15
was approved by Dave.
34:18
Right,
34:18
but why would he get access but
34:20
Hiller doesn't?
34:23
There are two different types of media.
34:26
Oh.
34:28
Okay.
34:31
Like their backgrounds are
34:32
different on their podcast?
34:34
Well, I don't think Hiller does a podcast.
34:37
Hiller does editorials.
34:40
Yeah.
34:43
So,
34:45
and I'm trying to explain it to you
34:47
what their thinking is.
34:48
I'm not saying I believe that.
34:50
Right.
34:50
No, I get it.
34:51
Right.
34:52
I get it.
35:02
uh acr says hillar said he
35:04
didn't ask for behind the
35:05
scenes access so I know he
35:09
had it for a minute and it
35:13
was taken away at the games
35:16
yeah I don't know why I
35:18
don't I don't think he had
35:20
the right wristband
35:23
And they didn't really care
35:25
when it was like age groups.
35:27
But when it went to elite athletes,
35:28
all of a sudden they
35:29
started stopping him.
35:31
And he wasn't butthurt about
35:33
it or anything.
35:34
He just moved on with what
35:35
he was doing and put out great content.
35:44
And Corey says,
35:45
Hiller's only live podcast
35:46
is with Athena.
35:51
That's true.
35:52
And when he goes on with Sivan, so.
35:54
Yeah.
36:00
So, yeah.
36:02
I think that's everything
36:04
that's the news this week so far.
36:08
On the week two.
36:10
You excited for week two?
36:14
What do you think is going to happen?
36:18
Well, probably lunges since that's.
36:23
Seems to be rumors that have gone around.
36:27
Outside of that, I don't know.
36:35
Probably got to have some rig work.
36:39
I'm really thinking it's deadlift week.
36:42
Hmm.
36:44
With the caveat that everybody's saying,
36:49
everything during the Open
36:50
has to be you have to pull
36:51
people off the street and they can do it.
36:56
Deadlift is an easy lift
36:57
that anybody can do.
37:00
So is bench.
37:04
Let's go.
37:08
Bench has never been in the Open.
37:09
It's only been in the team
37:10
series or quarters.
37:11
Right.
37:12
So now it's time.
37:14
push-ups of some sort.
37:19
So... Yeah,
37:21
I just think it's going to be a
37:23
deadlift and something.
37:26
Crossovers.
37:27
A deadlift and a lunge?
37:30
A lot of people are calling
37:33
double-unders too.
37:40
You're right, Corey.
37:40
Push-ups are sketchy to judge.
37:43
Very much.
37:45
Don't get Amy started on pushups.
37:50
Yeah.
37:51
I'd love for there never to be wall balls.
37:53
That'd be great.
37:55
You got to have some kind of
37:55
wall walker handstand
37:57
pushup at some point.
38:00
Yeah.
38:00
They say no tape on the floor though.
38:02
So if they are,
38:03
it's going to be handstand pushups,
38:05
just freewheeling.
38:09
People can go as wide as they want.
38:12
Oh, no tape on the floor this week.
38:16
for the open period.
38:19
Well, maybe it's not lunges then.
38:21
Well, lunges in place.
38:28
Instead of 25 feet, you just do 15 lunges.
38:39
So here's my, so this is interesting.
38:44
Corey says no tape,
38:44
no way to enforce a standard.
38:47
I think at this point, the open is,
38:50
is evolving into a thing
38:53
where the standard is less important.
38:55
You're just trying to get to that 25%.
38:58
And even with loose standards,
39:01
your elite athletes are
39:02
going to get to that 25%.
39:03
And then everybody else is
39:07
still able to have fun.
39:08
Correct.
39:14
So I think that's the way
39:15
that CrossFit is viewing it at this time,
39:19
is let's open it up as long
39:21
as it's not a safety
39:22
concern and let people do
39:24
what they're doing.
39:26
The elite are going to make
39:27
it regardless into 25%,
39:30
and then we'll hammer down
39:32
the standards at quarters
39:34
with floor plans, tape,
39:37
all that kind of stuff.
39:40
And then it's less of a
39:41
burden on the affiliate owners.
39:45
So do you still throw in a
39:47
movement that's not, quote unquote, easy?
39:52
A pistol, a muscle-up?
39:55
Or do you wait for quarters?
39:58
I think you can throw it in.
40:00
As long as the gateway to
40:02
the workout isn't that.
40:05
You get to start with some
40:07
pull-ups or some chest-to-bars,
40:10
and it may eventually roll
40:11
into a muscle-up.
40:14
like the old get to this level, step up.
40:18
Yeah.
40:27
So we'll find out on Thursday.
40:32
We will.
40:33
And hopefully in an exciting
40:33
fashion with the
40:35
heavyweight champion of the world,
40:40
Seth Rollins.
40:41
Seth freaking Rollins.
40:46
What's WrestleMania?
40:47
Him and The Rock or him and
40:50
that other dude?
40:53
It's him and Drew McIntyre.
40:57
The second night.
40:58
First night will be him and
41:00
Cody versus Rock and Roman.
41:03
Tag team.
41:04
Okay.
41:07
Gotcha.
41:11
So he's wrestling two nights
41:12
in a row because he CrossFits.
41:15
Yeah.
41:16
Speaking of it, where's Tyler?
41:19
The Tyler, your backup quarterback,
41:22
is he doing the open?
41:24
He has done it so far.
41:28
He better make the games
41:28
because he probably won't have.
41:30
Now I can't.
41:31
Tyson.
41:33
And he's now a Rogue athlete.
41:36
Oh.
41:38
So he just signed with Rogue.
41:40
Because he knows his days are numbered?
41:42
His days are not numbered, man.
41:44
That dude made himself a
41:46
10-year backup quarterback.
41:48
What?
41:49
Come on.
41:50
He went 2-2 with the Bears talent.
41:55
You got your Bears glasses on.
42:01
Jay Burch says deadlift and toes to bar.
42:04
Interesting.
42:06
Or maybe rows and cleans.
42:09
Rows and cleans.
42:12
Yes, Corey.
42:13
Bajent signed with Rogue.
42:16
Watch Hiller's video about
42:19
him that just came out last week.
42:23
Well, they did 14.1 or 24.1 at Rogue.
42:30
So it was within the last few days.
42:33
The Columbus one or the Texas one?
42:36
Columbus.
42:39
I saw Matt did it too at Rogue.
42:44
you know it's the arnold so
42:45
a lot of people are in town
42:46
yeah and if you're a rogue
42:48
athlete you just go over
42:50
and get treated like kings
42:52
and queens at by katie and
42:54
bill yeah go to his house
42:56
for a massive cookout yeah
42:59
with his six smokers going
43:01
and yeah he's not making
43:04
any money it's fine like
43:07
six green eggs dude like
43:08
the big green egg oh yeah
43:13
They were supposed to open a
43:13
barbecue joint on 5th, right?
43:17
Yeah.
43:17
And then COVID hit.
43:19
So is that not happening now?
43:20
As of now, it's not.
43:24
And it was right across the
43:25
street from Rogue.
43:26
Yeah.
43:29
That would have been freaking awesome.
43:34
Still could happen.
43:37
Mark Moss says,
43:38
Dudliff Toast Bar could get grippy.
43:43
good I like 14.3 I think
43:48
that is an easy barrier
43:50
because it was get on the
43:51
box however you could get
43:53
back down however you could
43:55
and deadlift went start at
43:57
135 for men and went all
43:59
the way up to 365 depending
44:03
on how far you got and uh
44:12
Elise doesn't like green eggs.
44:14
It's the green egg smoker.
44:16
I should have clarified.
44:19
Same cheese.
44:22
Green eggs and ham.
44:22
16.2.
44:23
And Sam I am.
44:26
What was 16.2?
44:32
I don't remember.
44:38
Let me see if I can.
44:42
Mark and tell us real quick.
44:53
20 minutes AMRAP.
44:57
Eight minute clock, 25 toes to bar,
45:00
50 double unders, 15 squat cleans.
45:07
Is it the one that Bailey did?
45:11
Yeah,
45:11
and the squat cleans go up in weight.
45:16
Yeah.
45:17
I do remember that now.
45:28
So Carolyn Preva, who studies these things,
45:31
Cap has burpee box jump
45:34
overs the next day with chest to bar,
45:37
so don't think box jumps.
45:38
Okay.
45:47
No double-unders or wall balls that week,
45:49
so my guess is those two or
45:53
a front squat.
45:58
Or an A&P with a front squat.
46:02
Max front squat?
46:04
Yeah.
46:07
Does it have to touch your shoulders?
46:10
They are doing Golden Barbell again.
46:12
Let's hope that it's better
46:13
explained when those workouts are going.
46:19
And I'm only going by like
46:22
when I talked to Ariel Lowen,
46:24
she talked about wanting to
46:26
win the Golden Barbell.
46:30
So that's week three.
46:32
So I'm assuming it's throughout.
46:34
Yeah,
46:36
there were several people who thought the
46:39
of the workouts was the
46:40
actual open workout because
46:42
it was not well explained
46:43
what was happening andrew
46:48
said double unders and wall
46:49
balls and max front squats
46:51
uh legs wrecked that sounds
46:55
awful well anything with
46:59
wall balls are going to
47:00
sound awful to you here we
47:02
go again yes so
47:09
Corey got all the mobility in the world.
47:11
What's happening with these front squats?
47:13
Showing off.
47:17
All right.
47:17
I think that's about all we got.
47:24
That 16-point whatever,
47:26
three that you said, Mark?
47:28
Two.
47:28
Two.
47:30
Hanging this much beef from
47:31
a Toto bar and then trying to squat clean,
47:34
my grip is gone.
47:37
Gone.
47:39
I lost that bar so many
47:40
times doing squat cleans.
47:47
so all right well with that
47:50
I'm gonna get back to work
47:52
you guys have a great rest
47:53
of your day thanks for
47:54
being in the chat and we'll
47:57
see you all next time on
47:59
gladsdale media roundtable bye guys