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Paul English Live 102926,,-Debbie Evans on the Fabians — Plus Monica Schaefer on Time, Truth, and Beauty · Global Voice Radio Network's tracks

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  Thank you so much for joining us, and welcome to the program.
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  Unknown: That's because I haven't brought them up because I'm an idiot. It's alright. It's fine. I'll just... There's no big rush for you then.
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  Unknown: Right. I'm just going in.
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  If you want to.
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  you online now?
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  Going? Oh, yeah. Yeah. It should be online on YouTube. Okay. There's there's two watching now, so I'll just say greetings to everybody.
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  Unknown: Right. Alright. We're ready to go. So I'm just gonna plug us in. I'll just put you on mute for now. Right. Dumpty dumpty dum. And here we go.
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  And hi, everybody.
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  Good evening, and welcome. Let me just check a few little dingle dongle doo bads. Let me just check a button. Yeah. Everything seems to be going tickety boo.
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  It's Thursday, isn't it? It's the very last Thursday of the month. So rocking up in hour three, Monica Schafer. More on that momentarily.
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  And we've got a, sir, we've a jolly guest,
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  coming about fifteen or twenty minutes. Anyway, this is Paul English live one sixty three,
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  and it's a beautiful day here, beautiful evening. Fantastic. Welcome to the show, everybody.
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  Oh, but I I need to press the button, don't I? I do need press button. Does help. Welcome to the show part two. What's happening? Rhea will stay in contact with you by phone or WhatsApp throughout the whole process.
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  So
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  Oh, that was a bit strange. What was that? Well, it started off terribly. Let me just do this again. I have no idea what's going on there. Just a minute. Sorry, everybody.
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  I just got something very strange kicking off in my head then. Let's just try this again. Oh, there we go. Oh, yes. Because I pressed the wrong bloody button. Right.
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  Let's start the show part three.
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  There we go.
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  Yeah. Fantastic day here today. I hope it's been beautiful all week where you've been. Not a breath of wind. Been walking out by the sea for my evening seaside jaunt before the show. Everything's just
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  still and tickety boo. It's great.
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  As I was just saying momentarily, coming up in hour three, Monica Shafer, because it's the last Thursday of the month. But for, coming up around about ten minutes time, we're gonna be joined by the goby granny. Yes. The goby granny. And it's gonna be a bit goby, I think.
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  Hi, everyone. Welcome back. I think, all technical signals are right. It was just me with my big fat fingers and all that kind of stuff.
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  As I was saying, just then, I went I went out for a walk. Lovely. And this... It's a bit cooler, and I'm all tired out. I'm all tired out after a long walk. Anyway, somebody who might not be tired out
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  Unknown: is Eric Von Essex. Eric, hi. Good evening. Welcome to show. Hello, Paul. And I I like what you sent through this afternoon. I I mean, I I think that... And we're all going to war, aren't we? So so they say. So the government I know. I I I just can't wait. Yes. Can't chomping at the bit. You know? I I... I've I've... Well, I've got my catapult ready and things like that. But the trouble is, they haven't said who we're going to war with yet. Have they... Are they... Oh, does it matter, really, Eric? You're sort of dancing about the... Anybody will do. Anyone will do. It'll be great. Yeah. Yes. But that's gonna be quite interesting because,
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  let's face it, the Cray twins learned all they needed to know from the army how to use guns.
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  Oh, gentlemen. Very good. That's a good advert for us. Yeah. And, you know, lots of
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  London
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  armed criminals learned all they needed to know from the army. Isn't that good of them?
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  Unknown: It is. It is. Anyway, look, shout out to everybody. I'll just do the old house cleaning here whilst my brain's still working a little bit before it all falls apart.
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  You listen to Paul English live. It's one six three. We're on October the... Is it twenty ninth or something? I don't know where it is. I know it's the last It's the October 9. Twenty ninth. Is it? Oh, bingo. That's working too. That's great. We're going out live over FFT radio.
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  We're also on YouTube and Rumble, so shout out to all of you that are early early early doors in YouTube and Rumble. Rumble, we seem to have got working properly now.
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  Famous last words. But we do. We're also on WBN three two four for the next couple of hours.
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  We're on WBN through till 10:00,
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  so shout out to all The US and Canadian listeners out there tuned into WBN.
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  Good to have you with us.
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  And for those of you that like to listen to the whole thing, if you do lose connection at some point or we end the show on WBN at ten, you can always head on over to paulenglishlive.com
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  and pick up all the sort of connection links to carry on listening to the show.
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  So it's good to have you back. And can you believe it's gonna be November soon, Eric? How about that? Well, that's right. And on the the thirty first, you'll be seeing your ghoulies, won't we? We'll be seeing ghoulies. I beg pardon?
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  Unknown: Ghoulies, ghosts, and and and and things like that. You see, because it's Halloween.
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  I never... Do you go... Do you... I mean, what does that... It means nothing to me. It never did. It means nothing to me. I mean, because we are we are of the generation where Halloween was just somewhere,
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  you know, it's just always Halloween. People told a few ghost stories, and that was about it. And then suddenly, from America comes this trick or treat rubbish.
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  Unknown: But it... The the... Yeah. Sorry if you're an American type. Yeah. Sorry for all our American listeners, but it's absolute rubbish.
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  Yeah. All I was doing as a kid was waiting for bonfire
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  Unknown: night, weren't you? Same here. Yeah.
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  Unknown: And it's worth mentioning now, in case I forget at some point during the show, because I tend to do those sorts of things, that this next Thursday is November 5. How about that? That's right. And you don't see children going anymore. Do you remember going? You used have penny for the guy that's outside the railway station.
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  Unknown: Saving up to get your fireworks and your bangers to throw throw at one another. That's what it was all for, wasn't it? Yeah? That's right. But we... My dad used to suit the fireworks up, and he made a a v one flying
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  out of my pocket with wings and everything. We went sideways. He said, oh, it's good it was. We... He had a little launching pad and everything.
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  And our fireworks were the cheapest she could wish to see. But, again, very imaginative, he he was. He used to put elastic
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  bands on the jumping crackers
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  so they'd be bouncing up and down like elastic bands.
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  But the v one was the one because he put tin four streamers at the back of it. So he's gonna...
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  I think he put a banger on one, so it went out and so... Stop it. I mean, bang. But few of us have thought, oh, these are expensive fireworks. They weren't. They were super cheap. Absolutely incredible. Know that I'm in the luxurious
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  Unknown: position at the moment of having taken down
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  half of one of the 12 trees I've got to deal with. I've taken down... Actually, I've not even taken down a half. I've taken down a quarter of it. The amount of wood I've got on the ground, it probably is a fire hazard to be quite honest. So
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  it may be that next Thursday when we do the show, it's also whilst I'm burning the radio shed around my head if it gets out of hand. But I thought we'd give it a go, although some of the stuff's still a bit green, so that will produce a lot of smoke, which may lead to a little bit of discontentment amongst my neighbors. Will you turn that fire off? I can't, sir. It's it's raging and all that kind of stuff. Ah. So No. I'm not bit shit, will I?
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  I mean, if it's if it's like tonight, it's just...
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  It's sub... I don't know what is... Is it completely
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  deathly still with you? Because it is here. Yeah. It's been like this all day and mild.
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  Overcast.
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  Been overcast. Kind of atmospheric. It's just great though. I love it.
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  Gonna get mist tomorrow and fog. Gonna have fog tomorrow. Oh, I love a bit of mist and fog. That's good. That'll be time for a ghost story, won't it? My Yeah. My son's just bought a new camera, one of these sort of whiz bang cameras that attach to your phone. Oh, yeah? I I don't tell you what he spends in it. I sound like an old housewife, don't I? But, no, it's it's fantastic. It's got a gimbal and all that kind of stuff. And I'm a bit sort of like... Yeah. I'm sort of, you know, I'm I'm not quite up with the old camera thing because, you know, we don't do that sort of thing around here. This is just audio. But...
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  Yeah. No. It's fantastic. He went down to the went down to the seaside this morning, which, of course, a 110 yards away and was filming it. I said, that really does look pretty good. He said, yeah. Look at it. So as you're tracking, the the camera's just staying level all the time, and it is pretty impressive for just a little doodad, you know, and all that kind of stuff. So I don't know what to do with it. So what's the camera thing that you that you fit on on your phone or something? I don't want I don't want what is it. Yeah. It... Well, I think you can fit it to your phone and old... Yeah. But it's sort of super high...
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  It just does... I can't describe it. Maybe after I've looked it for a week, can bore everybody silly about it next week or something and tell you about it. But there might be people out there that are into these sorts of things. It's very impressive. I mean, really, it's the sort of gear that they use for shooting a lot of these sort of YouTube videos and stuff like that. Oh, wow. It's tiny. It's absolutely tiny, but the picture quality is astonishing.
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  It's like four k.
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  This sort of stuff stores tons of things, got a great microphone on it. I'm serious. It's really... I'm going, oh, this thing's... It's about... It's slightly bigger than two matchboxes.
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  I'm serious. It's just absolutely minute. GoPro. Is it a GoPro? No. It's not. No. It's something else. It's something else. Oh. Actually Sounds interesting. It's just reminded me as well, talking about out there walking.
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  Where are we now? Thursday. Tuesday. Mhmm. I went for a lovely walk Tuesday, as you do.
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  You know, pottering around in my fabulous jumper. It's not... I've got one of these old dad's jumpers now, and I keep looking at it and go, Paul, you really shouldn't wear that anymore, but I did because I just went out for a walk. Anyway, I'm walking across the field on Tuesday
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  coming back. Beautiful because the sun was just very low and it was great. The farmer was out in his tractor doing something. Wow.
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  Yeah. He was. I don't know quite what. Probably turning the ground over or something in preparation for the winter. I mean, look at me making it up. I don't know what I'm talking about. But as I'm walking down the side
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  of of the field,
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  there's a lady coming toward me with a couple of dogs,
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  and we just got talking. Fantastic talk. So Marjorie, if you're listening, because I gave her the address for the site. Marjorie, I hope you are listening. She's a... She's now a neighbor. We had a wonderful chat for about forty minutes or so about
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  to state up nation and everything and found that we were getting on like a house on fire. Excellent. She... Yeah. It was brilliant. It was really wonder... And then we ended with a hug. She was very huggy, and I've... And it was sweet as a peach, really. It was great. It was lovely, you know. She's got a couple of dogs. One's 15, sprightly old chap he was. I can't remember his name now, but it
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  was just a really good connected chat with one of us, and she said, have you been to down to the Duke of Wellington pub in Shoreham? And I said, no. And then she described it to me, so the chances of me going are highly unlikely, but she said apparently it's a haven for lefties,
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  a haven for them. I said, really? She said, yeah. It's a sort of... I I won't mind going really. I mean, maybe I'm just a masochist or something. No. Just to engage with people. Well, I don't know. It'd be just interesting to see where you might get and where the sticking points are, like every sort of other word, I would have thought something like that. You know, they're just gonna stick everywhere. But left used to be very different. Now the right is progressive and trendy, and now the left is a bit sort of the other way. Things have flipped around, haven't they? They've gone the opposite way around.
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  They have a little Situation
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  Unknown: you'd never think of. But
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  I think that people are very pessimistic about things. I'm not. I'm very optimistic.
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  Because I've got a feeling something's gonna come along, and this happens historically that will be the other way. Things have flipped around.
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  Unknown: Like what's happened. No. It's just alright. It's just gone. It was just a momentarily thing as I hooked into something. Don't worry about that. Suffering
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  Unknown: from repeating myself. I knew I shouldn't have had that extra extra donut.
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  Unknown: Yeah. I was just trying to think if there's any other meaningless twaddle I could just fill in. Well, actually...... Sort of have you got any idea, Pat? Yes. Yeah. Go on. Yes. Yesterday, I went to see doctor Fleetwood.
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  Unknown: He was in Waltham Abbey. Plug, plug, plug, plug, plug. Doctor Miles Fleetwood. Our audience wouldn't recognize him unless you use the word Miles. So Miles in his piles. Right? Miles in his piles. I went to see Miles in his piles, and he hasn't got piles.
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  And we did in his treatment room, dun dun dun,
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  a recording
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  of me having acupuncture.
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  And it's to dispel any myths, because people, when you think about it, having pins shoved in you is not a very nice thought.
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  The first time I had acupuncture,
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  between you and I, I was a bit apprehensive,
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  because he's a mate of mine, I didn't wanna sort of show myself up by going...
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  Unknown: Do you do that sort of thing? You probably do, don't you? Yeah. You don't when you show yourself. No. So I'm sitting there... That's a really horrible sound. We need to recall. That's
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  Unknown: Well, I'm sitting there, and I'm I'm thinking to myself,
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  get on with it. For Christ, get on with it. This was the first time I ever went. This was a couple of years back.
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  And he said, okay. Later. I said, hey. He said, I've done it.
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  Didn't feel a thing.
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  But yesterday,
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  he was actually
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  putting needles in my hand.
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  Unknown: There we go. Isn't that a song?
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  Unknown: I'm putting needles in your hand.
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  Unknown: Sounds like a song.
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  The acupuncture anthem, the anthem of acupunctory.
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  Yeah. Something like But
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  Unknown: he's very, very skillful, very, very clever. And
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  now it's...
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  We're gonna, as I say, we're recorded.
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  We're hoping to play... I'm gonna... It needs a little bit of editing. When it's edited, I'll show it on on YouTube
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  and that. Maybe if I can actually
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  bribe you with a couple of foc bobs,
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  maybe put it on Food for Thought Radio. I don't know. Sure. We'll see how it goes. It'd be great to get...
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  Unknown: Yeah. Well, I... What are you gonna call the show? The Pile Driver?
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  Something like that. I don't...
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  Look, everybody. He doesn't have piles, but on this radio show, he does. People get all sorts of afflictions around here because we just make out that they've got them, don't we? Well, that's right. It sounds right. This is piles of these piles. I'm afraid he does. Yeah. He's stuck. He's terrible. I mean, if he ever finds out, I suppose you're for the high jump, aren't you? But I have, really. Yeah.
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  Unknown: That's right. It it... Well, it was an acupuncture, so he'd have to get over it, wouldn't he?
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  Unknown: He probably would. He probably would.
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  Anyway, was there any... I... Did I have any more caffuffling nonsense to tell you? Well, I've been doing a lot of cleaning. My last thing, I've been doing a lot of cleaning. How about that? I've turned into missus Mop,
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  and
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  I don't know how to say this, but I'm really loving it. It's fantastic at the moment. I'm beginning to see my house again for the first time in about seven years,
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  and I've I've been getting quite obsessed with it. So I've been looking at the best ways to clean floors,
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  seriously.
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  I'm throwing lots of stuff out. I've got a big tip trip coming up on Saturday or Sunday to clear stuff out. The shed's getting cleared. I'm getting quite excited actually. It's making my energy go up a lot.
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  So I know that I really, really wanna do it. I've got a guy coming next week to fit the... To hopefully,
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  sort out my back passage.
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  Door
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  door is reset. Yes.
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  Yes. That's... So if you've just tuned in, you might not know, but we've we've had a big door... We've had a lot of door moments. Eric's having a few door moments. I am Eli James, it was on... He just moved house. He... Both of his doors were blocked. So it's all been about...
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  Yes. Anyway, so the Yes. You know, the opportunity for double entendres is irresistible. Yes. Sorry about that. We we want a block passage, haven't we? That's the trouble. We have.
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  It's all all that kind of stuff. With cleaning, you see,
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  Unknown: what you need is just two products. You know what that is?
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  That is
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  white vinegar
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  and bicarbonate of soda.
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  I do actually, and elbow grease. You need a bit of that. And elbow grease. Yes. That's right. And Yeah. And
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  and I'll use old shirts for rags because I'm tight fisted. But really, the best rags are those microfiber
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  ones.
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  You use microfiber and it's generally works quite well. But... You like today's picture, Eric, as well? Do you like today's picture? Isn't it? Yes.
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  Unknown: So the back story to that is this, and Alice wrote to me today, Alice Gorgeous. Hi, Alice. She sent me an email earlier today, and I said, I give the back story, and of course, this is absolutely true. What that is, that's an artist's impression of an account I gave them of me having just robbed a bank,
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  and, I'm being driven away.
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  Actually, I've just robbed some Fabians out of their little club. Excellent. And
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  and that's that's
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  the goby granny actually driving us away, and therefore, there's the intro.
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  And
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  how do I refer to... Do I call you the goby granny or the gabby granny? Or how how do we how do we call you?
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  Unknown: Welcome to the show, by way. Thank you so much for inviting me. Hello. You call you can call... Hello. Hello, Eric from Essex. It's lovely. I've been sitting here chuckling.
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  Very
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  funny, but Thank you. No.
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  You can refer to me whatever you want. Gobby granny,
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  Debbie, whatever. My kids kind of... I'm the Gobby granny to my kids. Or I'm just nosy, really. I'm the nosy granny too. So you're the Gobby, Gabby, nosy granny.
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  I am.
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  I am.
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  Unknown: Well, it's it's fantastic to have you here, and I don't know if anybody's aware of it, but I got in touch I got in touch with you courtesy of Chris Brooks. So shout out to Chris. Thank you very much for setting this up. We had a fantastic chat, didn't we, on Monday Yeah. Earlier this week. And
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  you've got you have a penchant for certain groups of people. You've got a keen interest, and and I think we we probably... Well, we can go wherever you want with this kind of stuff, but we might as well jump in there, I think,
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  and
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  have a little chat about this cute little outfit called the Fabians.
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  Unknown: Oh, the Fabians.
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  Yeah. You know,
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  I have to say thank you, huge thank you to Chris as well because
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  we did a podcast about The Fabians and their one hundred and forty year plan.
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  And it's gone a bit crazy. We've had loads of views on it. So it's definitely generating
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  a conversation which I'm really pleased about. But I mean, it
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  was started. I mean, I've been looking into The Fabians for absolutely ages and it was really extraordinary
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  actually listening to Eric a minute ago because he made a reference to the craze.
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  And our very own Wes Streeting,
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  our defense secretary,
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  no less,
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  he is not just a Fabian,
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  who I'll talk about in a minute, but his granny
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  shared a cell with Christine Keeler and gave birth to his mother in Holloway.
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  His granddad
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  hung out with the Cray's.
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  Wow. Yeah,
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  it's quite a history to West Treating. If anybody wants to know a bit more about West Treating. But anyway, he's also
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  a Fabian. And what are the Fabians? Well,
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  I've been talking about the Fabians for ages,
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  I've just been thinking, Oh my goodness, people are looking at the Labour Party
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  and they're seeing this red rose of seduction.
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  But every single Labour Prime Minister that we have had has been a Fabian. So what is a Fabian? Well, Fabian Society
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  originally
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  originally was the fellowship of the New Life Group,
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  Unknown: which all sounds a bit dark. When's that from then? That's the 1880s.
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  Unknown: Is it 1870 or something like that was about... I think that was about 1882,
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  1883.
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  And it was only around the fellowship of the New Life Group. It was only around for about a year. It was very extreme. Some of the people involved in it, you'd hold your breath, you know, sexologists
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  and
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  people talking about transgenderism
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  back then.
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  So this fellowship of the New Life Group, it kind of disappeared.
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  Up came the Fabians in 1884.
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  They were founded in 1884.
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  And the kind of people that founded them were Sidney and Beatrice Webb.
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  But you had people like HG Wells.
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  You had George Bernard Shaw as well. And he
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  put out... And honestly, I think it has to be the most chilling speech I've ever listened to in my life.
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  You
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  can find it on YouTube.
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  It's... He said quite a few chilling things, didn't he? Oh, he was so grim. I tell you. But this one in particular
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  is a little black and white YouTube. You want to try and find it because he says there that he believes... And this was the belief of Fabians because they were into eugenics,
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  he believed that everybody should sit before a committee every five years
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  and justify their existence.
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  What were they contributing
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  to society?
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  What were they taking from society?
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  And basically,
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  should they be alive?
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  Should they be alive? Every five years. Well, George Bernard Shaw lived to his 90s. But this is the kind of organization we're looking at. And people say to me, Well,
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  Eugenics.
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  And I go, Do you know what Eugenics means?
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  And they say, Well, no, no. I go, It's fiddling around with DNA and transhumanism and stuff. And are you okay with giving your house back to the state? No, of course not. Well,
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  that's what the Fabians stood for and stand for. That's in their original
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  documents.
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  So
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  when you look at them, Paul, they're in plain sight. Their logo used to be, or their symbology used to be wolf in sheep's clothing. It can't be any more obvious than that.
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  Now it's a tortoise.
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  And the reason it's a tortoise
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  is because they're clever. They're very clever, the Fabians, but they're stupid too. If you're listening, Jojromey, I'll explain why in a minute. If you're listening, anybody at the Fabian's, because they blocked me on x. But that's another story.
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  Unknown: But anyway, they start thinking This is a good sign though, Debbie. No. Oh, look. See, I've called you, Deb. But it is a good sign because, you know, you only get flack when you're over the target. Well, Jo Dromey's messaging me.
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  So who's Joe Dromey? Don't know him. Who is Well,
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  Unknown: this is kind of jumping about a bit, so apologies to
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  No, it's okay. So Joe Dromey is the general secretary
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  of the Fabian Society
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  today.
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  That's the current one. Now he, Joe Dromey,
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  is the son of Harriet Harman
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  and Jack Dromey. Both of them were MPs.
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  And Harriet Harman, if you go and look and do a bit of digging, you'll see- She's that genius, isn't she? She's that genius, the pedophile information
• 24:37
  exchange.
• 24:38
  Unknown: Yeah. Didn't she... She sort of allowed that, didn't she? Or she kind of tacitly agreed with it, or did she even champion it? She did. Yeah. She did. Actually,
• 24:46
  Unknown: Joe Dromey, his nickname is the red prince.
• 24:50
  So after the Fabians blocked me on X because I was alerting everybody to who they were,
• 24:55
  know, they're not secretive.
• 24:57
  So
• 24:58
  Joe, if you're listening,
• 25:00
  I never said you're secretive.
• 25:03
  I never said you were clandestine.
• 25:05
  I've always said that you are in plain sight because they've got their own website,
• 25:10
  they're 6,000 members,
• 25:12
  they've got a headquarters in London, 61 Petit France.
• 25:17
  And all I do on X is I highlight their policies.
• 25:21
  So I'm backing everything up. And yet, he calls me an unhinged conspiracy theorist.
• 25:27
  Unknown: So What? For reading their documents?
• 25:30
  Unknown: For reading their documents. I kind of said, well, why are you bothering with me then if you think I'm an unhinged conspiracy theorist? But then only yesterday
• 25:37
  or the day before,
• 25:39
  he was talking to Labour List.
• 25:42
  And he said that people on social media
• 25:45
  were spreading
• 25:47
  misinformation
• 25:49
  and that people on social media were conspiracy theorists for thinking that they were
• 25:55
  clandestine
• 25:56
  and a secret.
• 25:57
  I never said that, but I know that he's spoken to me, so I'm presuming that he could be referring to me when he refers to conspiracy theorists on social media, bearing in mind he's messaged me and said that to my face,
• 26:10
  as it And
• 26:12
  then now he seems to be, or he appears to be, in my opinion,
• 26:17
  alleging
• 26:18
  that the mis information
• 26:20
  on the Fabian Society...
• 26:22
  And I back everything up. So, Joe, please correct me if I'm wrong. And you have before, and I've apologized.
• 26:29
  But he seems to be
• 26:31
  alleging or insinuating
• 26:33
  that
• 26:33
  conspiracy theorists and misinformation on social media
• 26:38
  gave rise to a protest,
• 26:41
  apparently a protest with 10 masked men or 12 masked men in black protesting
• 26:47
  outside.
• 26:48
  I mean, me?
• 26:50
  I don't think I've ever or anybody that I know that has spoken about the Fabians
• 26:56
  or tried to highlight the Fabians has ever
• 26:59
  suggested
• 27:00
  that anybody
• 27:01
  goes and protests.
• 27:03
  Think it would be a good idea if somebody knocks on the door and says, Hey, can you answer a few questions? Because
• 27:09
  clearly,
• 27:10
  perhaps the public are getting the wrong impression of you.
• 27:14
  But it seems that they're a little bit rattled
• 27:17
  that I've been
• 27:19
  showing their policies
• 27:21
  and
• 27:22
  looking at their history.
• 27:24
  Unknown: Because you see the Well, wouldn't they... Mean, if they're not secretive, wouldn't they wouldn't they be glad of all the extra publicity because their policies are so fine and magnificent and and appeal to everybody? I mean, what's the... That sounds like
• 27:38
  his right hand doesn't know what his left hand's doing. But then I'm thinking that must be by design. That's some sort of psychological ploy, you know, part of their big bag of tricks that they like to use to get you all sort of off balance and confused about their approach to things. That seems to go hand in hand with these sorts of individuals.
• 27:55
  Unknown: You're right. They use permeation
• 27:57
  and they seem to be using confusion because I agree with you. I
• 28:01
  would think that as they call themselves a left leaning think tank,
• 28:06
  I would imagine that they would want members of the public to support them. They would want their policy papers to be read. They would want their Fabian manifesto
• 28:15
  to be scrutinized.
• 28:17
  Would imagine that that's what they want. And that's what I've been doing. I don't believe that that is a conspiracy theory.
• 28:24
  I believe that there are a lot of questions to ask the Fabians.
• 28:28
  Because I believe that the Labour Party this is my opinion
• 28:32
  I believe that the Labour Party, as we see it with Andy Burnham as a Fabian Prime Minister, with a Fabian Cabinet,
• 28:39
  with a Fabian manifesto,
• 28:41
  I believe that the Labour Party is a shopfront
• 28:45
  for the, you know, the red rose. They're showing you the red rose. But behind
• 28:49
  the door,
• 28:50
  there are wolves in sheep's clothing. And people aren't aware of what these wolves in sheep's clothing
• 28:58
  are
• 29:00
  wanting and what their plan is. And it was interesting because Joe Dromey, actually in his
• 29:06
  talk yesterday with Labelist,
• 29:08
  he was saying, We've made mistakes and the public have had a poor perception of us. Well,
• 29:15
  correct us then, Joe. Do
• 29:17
  you still represent
• 29:19
  eugenics? Does your society still represent eugenics? Does your society
• 29:23
  still represent owning nothing? Sounds like the WAF, doesn't it? You hand your Well, never. I'm shocked. I'm shocked. Yeah, aren't you?
• 29:32
  Communitarianism
• 29:34
  is what it's all about. Communism is what it's all about. But is that what they still stand for? Because otherwise then,
• 29:42
  I guess we have to take history
• 29:45
  on its merit and say, Well, these people
• 29:48
  are actually devising all of these policies. And let me break it clear, the Fabians have got a policy for absolutely everything.
• 29:55
  You name it. You name it. You go to the Labour Party and you look at their policies. And then you go to the Fabians and you look at their policies. I mean, what's Sandy Burnham doing at the moment? Talking about
• 30:07
  the EU.
• 30:08
  I mean, for goodness sake, there's a a Fabian policy called pressing reset our future with the EU. It's absolutely in plain sight. There's
• 30:17
  other policies as well. There's, I mean, there's literally...
• 30:20
  I could name off hundreds of them. There's Lawful and Fair,
• 30:24
  which is about building
• 30:26
  back better,
• 30:27
  a better migration system.
• 30:29
  So the Fabians have got a migration
• 30:32
  plan, but they don't have a deportation plan. So when people say to me, oh, why isn't the government turning back the boats?
• 30:40
  Why aren't we, you know, why aren't we doing something about all this... All of this uncontrolled immigration and open borders?
• 30:46
  Yep. It's not the plan.
• 30:48
  Unknown: That is not Of course not. The No. The plan is to... Isn't part of the plan to
• 30:53
  effectively manage
• 30:55
  what passes for public discourse, to make it appear that you're... You might have a chance of nudging
• 31:01
  it, getting it back in the real direction. But there is no chance in in the sense that they're controlling so many different voices in the conversation. They all seem to be bent this way. I mean, I was came across a little stat with regards to the conservative party, you know, that used to be right wing apparently,
• 31:18
  and used to apparently come up with policies to support this nation. But under them, the whole of the immigration thing went completely haywire.
• 31:27
  Unknown: I mean, they're just... It's a uni party, surely. Yeah. Understand. That's the way it comes across. Right? All all roads lead to communism at the end of the day. And all sides, right, left, there's so many
• 31:39
  links between them all. But the
• 31:43
  whole remigration
• 31:44
  plan,
• 31:45
  Andy Burnham, I've said it before, I'll say it again,
• 31:48
  he is a demolition man.
• 31:51
  He has a wrecking ball in his hands
• 31:54
  and he took it over from Kirstjarma.
• 31:57
  And the plan is to build back better. But in order to build back better, you have to destroy first. So with the remigration
• 32:04
  plan,
• 32:05
  what he's doing is he's going to remigrate,
• 32:09
  integrate,
• 32:11
  and accelerate.
• 32:12
  And you think, Well, okay, what's he accelerating to? He's accelerating
• 32:16
  to British citizenship.
• 32:19
  So basically every time someone just arrives on the beach, not quite so literally but probably very quickly,
• 32:26
  they will be given
• 32:27
  British citizenship.
• 32:29
  And by giving them British citizenship
• 32:32
  you have now made the illegal migrants
• 32:35
  legal.
• 32:36
  And that is the plan. When people say,
• 32:40
  Deport, deport, deport, he's
• 32:42
  got no intention of deporting. He's just going to keep on bringing them in, bringing them in. They're flying in, coming in on lorries,
• 32:51
  coming in on boats.
• 32:52
  And the Fabian Society
• 32:54
  have a policy paper called Lawful and Fair. Anybody can just page it up to have a look.
• 33:02
  For everything that's going on at the moment, there's a Fabian policy. Actually, there's another one that I saw today. If anybody happens to be listening that knows a Fabian counsellor, because your Labour counsellor could be Fabian,
• 33:15
  know, your Labour MP could be a Fabian.
• 33:18
  So they're absolutely everywhere. But today
• 33:21
  I discovered
• 33:22
  a document
• 33:24
  and I thought, Oh wow,
• 33:26
  if somebody's a member or knows a member, please can they get me a copy?
• 33:30
  Because you can't get this copy of this policy document unless you're a member. It's called
• 33:35
  Autumn twenty twenty six
• 33:38
  Apocalypse Now.
• 33:40
  Unknown: This is a Fabian document? This is a Fabian document. So How much how much does it cost to join the Fabians?
• 33:47
  Unknown: How much? Well, they wouldn't let me join, I don't think. I think it's about
• 33:52
  Unknown: £6 a month, something Come on everybody, let's all join. Let's all Why
• 33:58
  Unknown: don't you? They're calling out. You've only got... It's easy to join. You can join online,
• 34:03
  but they've got this document. They've just released it,
• 34:06
  Autumn twenty twenty six,
• 34:08
  Apocalypse
• 34:09
  Now.
• 34:10
  Unknown: And I'm... I would... I'd be fascinated to read it, but, of course, I can't see them in a million years. It's because you're very naughty, Debbie. That's why. You're a very naughty person. I am on. And they're not gonna let you in there. Now you may have just caught the dulcet tones of our American
• 34:25
  lurker,
• 34:26
  Paul. Paul.
• 34:28
  Hello Paul, are you there? Yes.
• 34:30
  Unknown: American lurker. Oh, I've got so many things to say because I've been listening from afar.
• 34:35
  Let's see,
• 34:39
  their mass migration agenda is simply no more than divide and conquer. You can't have
• 34:45
  solitary
• 34:46
  of English people if they're a small fraction of the population.
• 34:53
  And the only mistakes the Fabian Society made was not keeping their agenda secret
• 34:59
  so nobody actually figured out how screwed up And they
• 35:05
  as far as the obsolete man,
• 35:07
  does anybody remember
• 35:10
  the Twilight Zone?
• 35:12
  Rod Serling's...
• 35:14
  I
• 35:16
  Unknown: don't remember the original, but it's on YouTube. It's brilliant. Season
• 35:20
  Unknown: two, episode 29
• 35:23
  was
• 35:24
  the
• 35:25
  obsolete
• 35:26
  man.
• 35:27
  A librarian,
• 35:29
  Romney Wordsworth,
• 35:30
  played by Burgess Meredith, lives in a future totalitarian
• 35:33
  state that has banned books and religion and because society no longer values reading or thought, he is formally declared obsolete
• 35:41
  and sentenced to death.
• 35:43
  Unknown: So they
• 35:45
  Unknown: told us in 1961,
• 35:48
  the year I was born,
• 35:50
  what they were gonna do.
• 35:51
  Unknown: They were waiting for you to be born, Pauls, so that they could tell us it was very important. Yeah.
• 36:02
  Unknown: The interesting So Absolutely. Debbie, yeah, should we all join?
• 36:05
  Do you think we I should
• 36:06
  Unknown: think all... I mean, if nothing isn't, it's know thy enemy, isn't it? It's keep your enemy close. So I mean, I
• 36:14
  have
• 36:14
  no idea
• 36:16
  how many people they would accept. I think they probably are now checking people's social media posts and stuff. But why not? Why not? It's open. They
• 36:25
  are very open. They put out a post not so long ago actually. It did fascinate me.
• 36:30
  And they said, Shh. Don't tell anybody we're here. We're a secret society.
• 36:36
  We operate in clandestine. And I thought, what are they talking about? But they seem to think they'd like everybody to think
• 36:44
  that they're a secret society.
• 36:46
  The truth of it is that they don't
• 36:49
  want us to see them. They want to be there.
• 36:52
  They want to be seen. But they don't want us to see them. Because you know what? They're everywhere.
• 36:57
  They're literally everywhere.
• 36:59
  And I feel as though,
• 37:01
  you know, imagine a clearing in a woods
• 37:04
  and this little old grey,
• 37:06
  old granny Zimmer on a Zimmer frame wolf limps out into the clearing
• 37:12
  and can see all of these red eyes hiding
• 37:16
  in the woods. Just all these red eyes from the wolves looking at me.
• 37:20
  And I'm just sitting there staring at them and they just don't know what to do with me really.
• 37:25
  They don't know what to do with me because if you go onto X and you go to the search bar and you put in my name,
• 37:32
  you'll see and you put in the Fabians, I've been relentless.
• 37:37
  Have actually been relentless,
• 37:38
  which is why I think they've blocked me. Well, I take that as a badge of honor, quite honestly.
• 37:44
  Unknown: Well, I do too. I think it's brilliant. Maybe you you are their canary in their coal mine
• 37:49
  because...
• 37:50
  I mean, I've been aware of them for donkeys years, but you don't sort of plow into... I find all their stuff so,
• 37:55
  what's the word? It's dispiriting.
• 37:58
  The whole of their ideology, and it's not just them. Anything that's to do with this sort of advanced season socialism
• 38:05
  come communism,
• 38:06
  which is all it is, and now they've got communitarianism,
• 38:10
  which is communism,
• 38:11
  and they've got fabianism,
• 38:12
  which is communism, and all it is is international communism under all these different labels and guises and little groups, and then they'll sometimes pretend to be in dispute with one another, but they're not cause they're all basically running in the same direction,
• 38:24
  which is about, you know, centralizing all power in the state because we know best
• 38:29
  like George Bernard Shaw does. You see, George really knew how to really look after everybody because he really cared, didn't he? You see?
• 38:37
  And
• 38:38
  that's the sort of... The stink of hypocrisy is so colossal
• 38:42
  that you you have to have had your nose cut off not to smell it. But unfortunately, a lot of people do seem to have had their nose cut off. I think you're doing... I think this is brilliant what you're doing, Debbie. Absolutely brilliant. I I second that. I admire your bravery as well. But what they do, they put out things that are chocolate coated.
• 38:59
  Unknown: Like... So... But it's it's a bit like fishermen when they put a bait out. And it and it's always seems quite good. I mean, what people don't realize
• 39:08
  is that the NHS,
• 39:10
  which started in 1948,
• 39:12
  William Beveridge,
• 39:14
  who was the architect of the NHS, he designed it, was second in command of the Eugenics Society.
• 39:20
  And you can look that up on it. It's on Wikipedia.
• 39:22
  Unknown: Eric,
• 39:23
  you are a man after my own heart because William Beveridge
• 39:27
  obviously
• 39:28
  was in Churchill's
• 39:30
  government.
• 39:31
  And he took over, or he was given the charge of the London School of Economics.
• 39:38
  As soon as he was at the LSE, after the LSE, he cooked up this whole social welfare reform bill
• 39:44
  in, what was it, 1941,
• 39:45
  1942? Was only '19 That's '40 correct, yes. No, 1943 actually, think it was. 1943.
• 39:50
  Yeah. And of course then, shortly after he left, because he was part of the Eugenics
• 39:55
  Society,
• 39:56
  after he left LSE,
• 39:59
  it
• 40:02
  was founded by the Fabians, funded by the Rockefellers.
• 40:05
  And David Rockefeller
• 40:07
  came to London and William Beveridge
• 40:10
  took him under his wing. I think there was the Beveridge apartment or the Rockefeller apartment or something, where he sort of made sure that David Rockefeller was perfectly fine. David Rockefeller had graduated
• 40:21
  from Harvard.
• 40:22
  And one of his dissertations he did was Sidney and Beatrice
• 40:26
  Webb, who founded the Fabians. He
• 40:29
  did it in association with the Fabians.
• 40:32
  So the NHS,
• 40:34
  when it was launched in 1948,
• 40:36
  Annoy Bevan was just the person that
• 40:39
  launched it. He wasn't the person that designed it. And of course,
• 40:43
  the NHS...
• 40:44
  I mean, where do we start? Is it a trap or a treasure? No other countries copied the model. So you have to ask yourselves why. I think there's been periods where it's been a treasure.
• 40:55
  Unknown: I think something about it is good, but that that whatever it was that was good about it is completely gone now. Now it feels like a menace. Nobody wants to end up in a hospital today.
• 41:06
  And yet, you know, it's quite interesting. Do you see any of these videos from Americans that have moved to The UK,
• 41:11
  to jolly old England?
• 41:13
  Nearly all of them, and I do completely understand this because they're faced with horrific medical bills. You know, they can't they can't afford to get injured in America, I think, because it's just the bills through the roof. You know, you're finished. Oh, yes. $250,000
• 41:25
  to repay your leg or something. I'm I'm exaggerating,
• 41:28
  Paul could correct me, but you see these... They sort of get you. So they've said,
• 41:33
  and I understand it from this point where they said, I got injured. I'd... I had this thing. I had to go into this hospital. They fixed me up, and I was looking for where I wrote the check, and I don't have to do that. So from that point of view, that sort of ease of mind, yeah, that's good, but that's been used, that's now been weaponized
• 41:50
  to create a kind of compliant,
• 41:53
  flaccid sort of people, And of course, they're always willing it out, aren't they? Our NHS,
• 41:58
  oh, it's great, and all this, that, and the other. But the thing's just a money gobbler.
• 42:02
  I mean, it's just now it's so colossally inefficient
• 42:05
  because there's been so much money there that you've got a queue of all the people queuing up for the privilege of having a slice of the pie, and it's gone mad.
• 42:13
  Unknown: And also, you can have the privilege of being treated by someone that bought their qualifications in the third world,
• 42:19
  Unknown: because there's quite a few of them as well. Well, they're very enterprising, Eric. I mean, you know, you can't blame you can't blame them for their entrepreneurial spirit, even if they're lying through their backside.
• 42:29
  Unknown: Ian knows some belly button specialists
• 42:31
  who come over from the third world who probably hasn't got the clue, but he's bought the qualifications.
• 42:37
  This is the problem. I've worked with people. I haven't worked in the NHS.
• 42:41
  It's a completely different area I've worked in. And I actually worked with people that had bulk qualifications,
• 42:47
  and it was pretty obvious.
• 42:48
  And I know that it's rampant in the NHS.
• 42:50
  Did you ever come up against that, Debbie? Yeah. Well,
• 42:54
  Unknown: no. Not in my day. And I have to have to say
• 42:58
  to our... Isn't that your background, Debbie? Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm a trained...
• 43:02
  Well, state registered nurse. I've trained Royal Free
• 43:05
  Hospital in London, which was the first free hospital. Awful lot of experiments going on there. But
• 43:11
  when I was nursing and I
• 43:14
  started my training in 1976,
• 43:16
  I qualified in 1979.
• 43:19
  So I did the bulk of my nursing
• 43:21
  between the mid-70s and the mid-80s. And then I had my kids, got married, had a family, went back part time here and there. But I was Ward's sister. But I think what you have to look at now with the NHS is when I was there,
• 43:36
  I went because I wanted to be a nurse. That's all I wanted to do. It was quite a feat to get into a London teaching hospital. There were 400 applicants for 70 places, so you had to really want to do it.
• 43:49
  But now standards have gone, literally gone. Training has completely changed where nurses have university degrees. We don't need university degree to hold a hand. You don't need a university degree to know and
• 44:04
  practice tender loving care.
• 44:06
  But now the NHS,
• 44:09
  it was a trap in my opinion.
• 44:11
  So back then it was a national treasure.
• 44:15
  And
• 44:16
  I remember the days of hospitals with flowers and windows open and patients being wheeled out into the day room and you'd all see nurses bustling around the ward.
• 44:26
  Unknown: It was a completely different environment to the one it is today. It was. I remember visiting them on several occasions from about the age of seven to 17, probably about five to getting
• 44:38
  banged up and stuff.
• 44:39
  And I always came away with the most fantastic sort of feeling, and I really felt looked after.
• 44:44
  I mean, just like really, really felt looked after down there, and the food was good. And I'm not saying it's necessarily bad now, although it might be. I don't have any reports It on is. It's vile. It's... My my parents were in hospital, and they had...
• 44:57
  Unknown: It was disgusting.
• 44:58
  They they actually had
• 45:00
  airplane food and food that when you looked on the ingredients, it looked like a chemistry set. But the worst I've heard is somebody that comes on my show, and his mother
• 45:10
  has got...
• 45:14
  Come on, brain. Think. I'm a I'm a very very strange age.
• 45:19
  Diabetes.
• 45:21
  What they're feeding his
• 45:24
  mother potatoes,
• 45:27
  rice,
• 45:28
  pasta,
• 45:29
  which of course carbs.
• 45:32
  It's killing her. They're actually killing her.
• 45:35
  Unknown: They're also allowing
• 45:37
  Unknown: people to die of thirst as well. You know, people are getting drunk. You mentioned this to me the other day. Yeah. Is... My father had an operation that nobody signed for, and everybody
• 45:46
  was
• 45:47
  having this operation where they put a tube down your throat, kneel by mouth... Oh, sorry, into your chest, kneel by mouth.
• 45:53
  And about a day afterwards,
• 45:55
  they all died.
• 45:58
  Unknown: Everyone else what
• 46:00
  I think what we have to remember is,
• 46:03
  at the moment,
• 46:04
  we're living in very dangerous times.
• 46:07
  What does The UK
• 46:09
  have to offer
• 46:10
  the world?
• 46:11
  We don't manufacture anything.
• 46:14
  Apart from the city of London, there's not a lot going on for The UK right at the moment. We're not sustainable.
• 46:20
  We're certainly not sustainable. So the one gift
• 46:23
  that we have left or that the government have left to give to
• 46:27
  the rest of the world is us.
• 46:29
  So if you think of The UK as an island nation,
• 46:33
  very very heavily densely populated,
• 46:37
  very diversely
• 46:38
  populated
• 46:39
  too,
• 46:40
  that is a perfect sterile laboratory.
• 46:43
  So The UK has a massive life sciences program.
• 46:47
  I mean what is like that? I've never heard of life sciences.
• 46:51
  We weren't brought up with that term. But it's your life and it's their science. So this country,
• 46:56
  this beautiful, beautiful country
• 46:59
  has been turned into
• 47:01
  effectively
• 47:02
  a laboratory.
• 47:03
  And we are all the lab rats. And clinical trials
• 47:07
  aren't clinical trials, they're experiments.
• 47:11
  So that's what we're dealing with now. We're dealing with the NHS
• 47:15
  is the biggest medical
• 47:17
  data library
• 47:18
  in the world. Incredibly valuable because we've all bought into it. Because we've all had our data extracted
• 47:26
  into this one. Now we've got Palantir running it, well we won't go in there. But what I'm saying is the data is there and you cannot opt out of the NHS. You can opt out of your GP if you want, you can deregister with your GP,
• 47:39
  but you cannot opt out of the NHS. God forbid you're involved in an accident or an emergency,
• 47:46
  you will be scooped up by an NHS ambulance and you will be taken to an NHS facility.
• 47:51
  End of.
• 47:54
  Unknown: That's quite chilling really.
• 47:57
  It is.
• 47:58
  I mean, just look at my own experience when I see ambulances now. I mean, I always get out of the way if I'm driving, that's not what I'm saying. But it doesn't have the impact.
• 48:06
  Unknown: There's just a worry in the pit of your stomach about this whole thing. It's got completely bonkers at the Who you seeing? Do you know... Mean, I'll ask people who are they seeing? They don't know. We've had 500 nurses from Nigeria with fake qualifications sent back. Nobody knows who they're seeing, what their qualifications are, where they're qualified, how long they've been trained. And you know what? The other thing, and this is my little experience because I actually
• 48:30
  saw my own GP
• 48:32
  a couple of weeks ago. My own GP that's known me for years. And I walked into the office and I said, have you got any sensors in here? And he sort of sat back and he went, what? And I said, have you got any sensors that are recording our conversation?
• 48:46
  He said, Well, I've got an AI note taking scribe
• 48:49
  that will take notes of our... And I said, Switch it off.
• 48:53
  Because I'm telling you now that anybody that goes into an NHS facility, whether it be a hospital, a consulting room, a GP surgery,
• 49:00
  wherever,
• 49:01
  it is likely that they will be recording your conversation with an AI scribe.
• 49:06
  Unless you ask, they're meant to tell you.
• 49:09
  But sometimes it can be on a sign in the waiting room or on a screen.
• 49:13
  Or sometimes they can say, Is it okay if I use this? And you're so kind of like, Well, I want to tell you what the problem is. You just say yes without thinking.
• 49:20
  But they need to tell you that they're using it and you can opt out. Because there are some situations I'm sure, perhaps somebody that's maybe being abused in a family situation
• 49:31
  that does not want that conversation on a cloud.
• 49:34
  And also I listened to the NHS board meeting two weeks ago and they said that these AI scribes
• 49:40
  were getting diagnoses wrong
• 49:42
  and they were also getting prescriptions
• 49:45
  wrong. So wrong drugs were being given out because nobody was checking what the AI scribe was picking up.
• 49:53
  So I would just say to anybody listening,
• 49:56
  do your due diligence,
• 49:58
  ask the questions,
• 50:00
  and give informed consent
• 50:02
  where you can. And if you don't want to be recorded,
• 50:05
  say so. And they have to switch it off.
• 50:09
  Unknown: Useful. I rebuff everything I get from them.
• 50:12
  Everything. I'm no... I I never want to go back. I've just had... Do you get the do you get the text message? Oh, because I'm above 65 now, so I'm I'm knocking on, you know, and all that kind of stuff.
• 50:24
  You're you're of that age. You need to come and get your flu booster for the winter. No. I don't. I'm not having anything from them. I I never really want to ever go back.
• 50:33
  So it's it's really a matter of individual responsibility and drinking lots of good water and getting that sunshine. And, you know, when you mentioned the thing about the flowers as well,
• 50:42
  these things appear to be relatively small potatoes, but they're not. I I think those things are absolutely massively important. If you're in a a buoyant atmosphere,
• 50:51
  if you are wheeled out into the sunshine, I mean, this is how they've cured people. Go, what? Just the sun? Well, not just the sun, but, you don't wanna be denied it.
• 51:01
  These... They make a huge difference. I mean, why is it? I don't know if I... It's just me being a bit weird. But when I look back at those images that you get of the late Victorian hospitals with all those matrons going around and flowers and stuff, and even with the gas lamps, I'm going, I think I could recover there. There's like an energy in the place that's focused on the well-being of the patient. Whole thing is, yeah, all the impression
• 51:27
  that all the people there are it's their calling in life to do that. Now
• 51:33
  the feeling is that this is an industry
• 51:35
  and it's not necessarily for your betterment.
• 51:38
  Unknown: That's what it feels like. Spot on Paul, Spot on pulp. Because what gets me is I used to take my parents
• 51:44
  to the doctors, and there was a wall of horrors
• 51:48
  all the way along there. You cough this morning? You could be... And it's all cancer cancer cancer cancer all the way along there. You could be suffering from this. You could be suffering from that. It's
• 51:59
  a hypochondriac's
• 52:01
  dream to go to those sort of places, because
• 52:04
  it's based on fear,
• 52:06
  and of course it's profit. Fear is profit.
• 52:10
  Having this check, that check, everything else check. All that is is for money, is to make money.
• 52:18
  I keep as far away from them as humanly possible.
• 52:21
  I get the
• 52:22
  letter through. Was it flu
• 52:24
  and all this sort of stuff?
• 52:26
  And you can make a nice paper paper dart out of the paper. It's nice quality paper. But I generally just chuck it straight in a bin. It just comes straight through my letterbox.
• 52:35
  Sometimes
• 52:36
  I I just own the top bit. Oh, we have flu. Right? Tear it in half, in it goes to the bin, and that's it. All goes through the... There is something deeply insidious about it. It's a a kind of psychological
• 52:48
  Unknown: hypocrisy that's taking place to some degree, because you're obviously... When you're not well, you're at your most vulnerable. You are. And you need your mom to kiss it better, don't you? And we don't always have our mom to kiss it better. In fact, as you go through life, it would be a bit awkward
• 53:02
  after a certain age if that was going on, but you know what I mean. I'm just addressing in a sort of general way.
• 53:07
  And they... It's as if you sense that they're preying on people's vulnerabilities when they're at the lowest possible ebb. I mean, we are painting a very negative picture. I've met good people in there,
• 53:17
  and
• 53:18
  unfortunately, I had to spend a lot of time over the last five or six years in there on and off
• 53:23
  with a family member who was in a bad way. And, you know,
• 53:27
  and I'm bumped into members of staff there that were
• 53:32
  worrying. They worried me. Their communication
• 53:35
  style worried me a great deal. There is as if they were sort of marketing consultants.
• 53:40
  I can't describe it. There was something missing in the way that they talked
• 53:43
  and their officiousness
• 53:44
  and everything. Earlier on, Debbie, you mentioned
• 53:47
  Sydney and Beatrice Webb.
• 53:49
  Yeah? Yeah.
• 53:52
  And
• 53:53
  they've always been... I haven't read a great deal about them. I'm sort of... I've got some general information about it. They always struck me as being slightly weird. I remember seeing a thing from a quote from Sydney Webb,
• 54:03
  a sort of... It was like he was cackling or something. I don't know whether he was really like that or not, but he said there's something incredibly
• 54:11
  satisfying about seeing people, I e the population being slowly nudged in the directions that they wanted
• 54:17
  with all of this kind of stuff, and you know if you go back, mean this is eighteen hundreds right eighteen nineties he kicked off with all these sort of activities I think. Well I've got a little thing here, son of an accountant born in London 07/13/1859.
• 54:32
  His father held radical political views and was a strong supporter of John Stuart Mill
• 54:38
  blah blah blah and it goes on here, this is from a website that's produced locally to me called, spartacus-educational.com.
• 54:47
  Local guy here.
• 54:48
  There's a lot of good stuff on it. It said, Sydney website and enter the lay say fair approach to economics and urged the government to play a more active role in regulating the economy.
• 54:59
  Well, that won't make any difference. You're gonna put the bank down, you stupid thicko.
• 55:04
  His ideas helped to influence the development of what later became known as the welfare state.
• 55:09
  So Webb's definitely one of the founding sort of ideologues
• 55:12
  behind the whole thing, I suspect. Yeah? Yeah. A 100%.
• 55:16
  Unknown: I've
• 55:17
  been going back and back and back
• 55:20
  as far as I possibly can, and it all comes back
• 55:23
  down to the Fabians.
• 55:25
  And these are people that most of the population
• 55:28
  haven't heard about who's Sidney Webb or who's Beatrice Webb.
• 55:32
  Who are these people? But effectively,
• 55:34
  that's what we're looking at.
• 55:37
  Going back to hospitals
• 55:39
  very quickly, and you were saying about flowers,
• 55:42
  flowers were
• 55:43
  essential,
• 55:45
  The
• 55:45
  aroma...
• 55:46
  If I was on a ward and somebody didn't have flowers or maybe didn't have visitors,
• 55:51
  we would buy flowers
• 55:53
  and we would put flowers on their locker so that A, they didn't feel
• 55:57
  as though nobody cared
• 55:59
  And b, that they're... They had the joy, the joy of it, by the side of their beds. Hospitals were very different. You were saying, you know, all these big Victorian buildings, big windows, big windows that open. Now you've got these big brutalist
• 56:13
  buildings, cement buildings. The windows don't open. They're like petri dishes.
• 56:18
  When you look back,
• 56:20
  Unknown: they are, aren't they? Well, my my career is back with architecture,
• 56:23
  so you're hitting a raw nerve there and I 100% agree with you. I mean, worked
• 56:29
  on the Derryford
• 56:30
  hospital
• 56:31
  extension. And
• 56:33
  that
• 56:35
  a special brickwork
• 56:38
  which we couldn't match because the plant that made the bricks,
• 56:42
  metric modular bricks,
• 56:45
  actually was sold to Japan so we couldn't get the bricks to match it. But I'm not kidding you, it was like building a prison block. It wasn't a hospital, it was a prison block.
• 56:55
  So I
• 56:56
  actually like the idea that the Chinese had
• 56:59
  where,
• 57:00
  I don't know if they still do it, but where they had herb gardens around the outside of the hospitals. So when they're out in the windows,
• 57:08
  whenever the weather was fine, if the patients to it, they wheeled them into the herb gardens,
• 57:12
  but the wall would smell of herbs. Because their
• 57:16
  medicine was herb based.
• 57:21
  Chinese medicine, there's all different types of Chinese medicine.
• 57:24
  But they reckon it was absolutely gorgeous because you... It made you feel good.
• 57:28
  Yeah. But you look at hospitals now. I mean, I'll never forget my father when he had a stroke.
• 57:33
  They left him in a room whilst the nurses are playing computer games, and there he was standing, staring at the wall.
• 57:38
  Unknown: I've never forgotten it. They're horrific. They're terrible environments now.
• 57:43
  Unknown: Couldn't give a damn. Yeah. What gets me is the air conditioning.
• 57:49
  Unknown: It it... There isn't any...
• 57:50
  There isn't isn't...... Any... Eric.
• 57:53
  Is no air conditioning.
• 57:54
  In most hospitals,
• 57:56
  there is no air conditioning, and you're reliant on portable fans.
• 58:02
  Unknown: Well, right. My father was in. Yeah. There was this
• 58:06
  bill with the... I saw the HVAC there, but, oh, the... It was just... It just felt...
• 58:11
  It's just grimy.
• 58:12
  And the patients had to put their dirty laundry
• 58:16
  in their lockers,
• 58:17
  and the lockers were never cleaned.
• 58:19
  So you can just imagine what it was like putting your dirty laundry in the lockers that are never cleaned, soiled stuff.
• 58:27
  It does get worse, I'm afraid, because... I think you would have been better off in the middle ages, to be honest with you. You would have been. I only read a report yesterday
• 58:37
  Unknown: because moving forward, what I'm looking at is antimicrobial
• 58:40
  resistance.
• 58:41
  That's
• 58:42
  gonna be the next big thing. They're looking for disease X, and it's going to be antibiotics
• 58:47
  and antibiotic resistance
• 58:49
  and disease X, all this stuff. And I'm looking at how they're going to do it. I've always been saying, Watch the water, watch the water. So yesterday, a report came out to say that
• 58:59
  organisms,
• 59:00
  they're called drain snakes,
• 59:02
  but they're organisms,
• 59:03
  are now being found in
• 59:05
  drains, the drain augers,
• 59:08
  at hospitals.
• 59:11
  And some surgical instruments they're called endoscopes.
• 59:13
  It's what you have a colonoscopy
• 59:16
  or
• 59:18
  bronchoscopy
• 59:19
  scope with
• 59:20
  a camera that looks inside. These are meant to be obviously sterilized.
• 59:25
  But apparently they're being contaminated.
• 59:28
  So
• 59:29
  I'm thinking, well, they're now talking about too that hospitals are going to be short of water.
• 59:34
  So they're going to have to drill boreholes
• 59:37
  next to hospitals. So I'm wondering if hospitals are actually going to cease to exist and they'll probably end up being data centers or something because
• 59:45
  we won't be going to hospital
• 59:47
  as we know it in the future. Because you'll have your community hubs, you'll have your surgical hub, you'll have your children's hub, your mental health hub within your fifteen minute city. So your hospital that you know now
• 59:59
  will only be for emergency
• 1:00:02
  or for scheduled appointments and then your date of your admission and your date of discharge
• 1:00:08
  will be written in stone. But back in my day,
• 1:00:12
  we didn't have nurses that were holding iPads.
• 1:00:15
  We held hands.
• 1:00:17
  And the other thing that we found really important was touch. And we called it basic nursing care and it isn't. It's essential nursing care because
• 1:00:25
  making 28 beds every day and doing observations,
• 1:00:29
  temperatures and pulses and stuff, it was an opportunity to talk to the patient, hold their hand, to reassure them, to assess them. Have they had a drink? Are they feeling okay? Are they worried about anything? Have their relatives turned up?
• 1:00:42
  It was personal contact.
• 1:00:44
  So touch
• 1:00:46
  was so important.
• 1:00:48
  Yeah. And we've lost that.
• 1:00:50
  Unknown: No. I remember holding the hands of several nurses when I was having stitches taken out of my hands and things. In fact, one nurse, I I was in such pain as they were removed. I bit her hand. I said, I'm terribly sorry. I was only about 14 at the time. I think she was okay. I didn't bite right through the skin or anything like that, but it was really really...
• 1:01:08
  Anyway.
• 1:01:09
  Look, we're at... We're just gone 09:00,
• 1:01:11
  so we're gonna have a little change of pace. We're gonna play a little song. We do this every now and again. So we're gonna take a three minute break, and then we're gonna come back. We're here with Debbie, the the Gabby granny, and we're
• 1:01:22
  talking about the fabulous Fabians and how much fun they are and how how they make the world such a better place with everything that they do. Anyway, here's Kevin Coyne with Marlene, and we'll be back in about three minutes time.
• 1:04:13
  And that was,
• 1:04:14
  Kevin Coyne,
• 1:04:16
  c o y n e.
• 1:04:18
  He's, no longer with us, but, he wrote some
• 1:04:21
  incredibly distinctive and interesting stuff in the seventies,
• 1:04:25
  often championed by John Peel during his late night radio show in the seventies. For those of you who are long in the tooth and remember those heady days of late night radio here in jolly old England. Anyway, welcome back to part two, hour two of the show. We're here with Eric and with our guest tonight, Debbie. So welcome back, guys and gals.
• 1:04:44
  And, Debbie, I was just thinking, the Fabian thing,
• 1:04:47
  when did it sort of begin to loom large in your life?
• 1:04:51
  Is it quite a long standing thing, or is it relatively recently?
• 1:04:54
  Unknown: No. It's it was relatively recent.
• 1:04:57
  When I say recent, probably four years.
• 1:05:00
  Okay. And so I've had them kind of on the back burner.
• 1:05:03
  But
• 1:05:04
  then as
• 1:05:06
  time's gone on, I guess the last four months quite intense,
• 1:05:10
  Four to six months quite intense.
• 1:05:13
  And it was after
• 1:05:16
  looking at the Fabian window. Have you seen it?
• 1:05:19
  Unknown: No. What's
• 1:05:21
  Unknown: the Fabian window? Gosh. It's really famous.
• 1:05:23
  Unknown: So if you pop into a search bar, the Fabian window, it'll immediately come up. And it's this stained glass window, which is now housed at the London School of Economics.
• 1:05:35
  Yeah. Right. And it's George Bernard Shaw.
• 1:05:38
  And I think it's Edward P. Sydney Webb and George Bernard Shaw.
• 1:05:43
  Unknown: And they're forging a new a new world out of the old. You can see I know it now. Yeah. You've jogged my memory. I know the one you took. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:05:53
  Unknown: It's just extraordinary.
• 1:05:55
  They're literally hammering
• 1:05:57
  the old world. It's a very famous window.
• 1:06:01
  But like I say, now it's at the LSE. But the Fabians
• 1:06:04
  also are in control or founded, if you like,
• 1:06:08
  The New Statesman as well as the London School Of Economics.
• 1:06:13
  Unknown: Ah, yes. They did. The New Statesman.
• 1:06:15
  Unknown: Yeah. They founded that.
• 1:06:18
  And loads of people say to me, oh, but Debbie, you know, stop talking about the Blooming Fabians because
• 1:06:23
  you should be talking about the Jesuits, and you should be talking about this and the Freemasons and blah blah. And I go, yeah. Absolutely right. But for the purposes
• 1:06:32
  of the general public who were going out to the polling booth if you vote, if you're going out to the polling booth, you need to know, are you voting for a wolf in sheep's clothing? Are you voting
• 1:06:42
  to hand your house back to the state?
• 1:06:45
  And I don't think a lot of people realize who they are. But because they're so visible and there's a website, go and look at their policies, go and look at their history,
• 1:06:53
  everything that we're saying is backed up, make your own informed decision.
• 1:06:58
  Then I look at the Fabians as a motorway.
• 1:07:01
  So I think if I can get people to get on the motorway
• 1:07:05
  and then all of these little side exits
• 1:07:08
  that will go off to, I don't know, go off to the Club of Rome,
• 1:07:12
  then another one will go off to the Rothschilds and another one, And people can then choose
• 1:07:17
  which avenue, which exits they come off at, what they look at, but just stay on the motorway.
• 1:07:23
  Just keep your eyes on
• 1:07:25
  the Fabians.
• 1:07:27
  And with the Freemason connection,
• 1:07:29
  there was a new welcome lodge. I think it was called number five thousand one hundred thirty nine.
• 1:07:34
  It was a British Masonic lodge. It was open to all men
• 1:07:38
  working at the Palace Of Westminster.
• 1:07:41
  But its founding membership was limited to Labour Party members.
• 1:07:45
  So, you you can think, Oh yeah, I bet there's a link to the Freemasons. Well yeah, there it is. The
• 1:07:52
  Lodge, the new Welcome Lodge. I think it's number 500139,
• 1:07:56
  if my memory is right.
• 1:07:58
  There's the link there. And all I'm trying to do
• 1:08:01
  is show people, look, they're on the map. They don't want you to see them,
• 1:08:06
  but here they are. And you make the decision from there on in as long as you're aware of them.
• 1:08:12
  Unknown: And also, Clement Attlee
• 1:08:14
  went to the London School of Economics,
• 1:08:16
  and he was a Freemason.
• 1:08:18
  Unknown: There you go.
• 1:08:19
  Unknown: And... They're like... Don't you think they're like lots of branches coming off the same rotten tree?
• 1:08:25
  Yeah. The ones that... I think they're all important, actually. I think they're all important. It's just the Fabians may well be low hanging fruit that's just out. Have you got a little echo? I've got an echo coming through. Can anybody hear a little faint echo? There is a there is a small echo, but Just seems to know. The
• 1:08:41
  Unknown: the London School of Economics,
• 1:08:43
  Jules Schoras went there,
• 1:08:45
  and Mick Jagger,
• 1:08:47
  Unknown: and Arsula von der Leyen. Did Mick Jagger go there? Yeah. He did. Oh, this would explain why the Rolling Stones are so crap. I can't stand the Rolling Stones. I think they're rubbish. Sorry if I everybody, but I do, really. Ursula von Deleien,
• 1:09:04
  Unknown: president of... I don't know if I pronounced her surname that's resigned today. Her...
• 1:09:09
  Unknown: Isn't that Christine Lagarde? Christine Lagarde's about to it. Ursula von Deleien,
• 1:09:15
  Unknown: president of the European Commission. I doubt it's Has she resigned as well? She's resigned today with with ban... Yeah. Hasn't she?
• 1:09:23
  Unknown: Am I thinking she's the wrong person? I'm sure No. I was thinking Anton. Christine Lagarde has been head of the European Bank or something, and she said that she's
• 1:09:30
  jacking it in in January of next year.
• 1:09:34
  But the London School of Economics was founded by the... By Sydney Webb. He was part of the founding of all that kind of stuff. And whenever I see anybody and it says that they're an alumni of the London School of Economics, I start throwing up because it's just a sinkhole of socialist claptrap.
• 1:09:49
  And guess who else has been there? Andrew Bailey, the current governor of the Bank of England.
• 1:09:54
  Unknown: And John f Kennedy attended,
• 1:09:57
  but I don't think he... They... It says, and Pierre Trudeau
• 1:10:00
  slapped my thigh. What a surprise. Pierre Trudeau went there as well.
• 1:10:05
  So that was the prime minister of Canada.
• 1:10:07
  Unknown: I hate commies.
• 1:10:10
  Unknown: It's all very illuminating
• 1:10:12
  though, isn't it? Yes.
• 1:10:15
  Unknown: Oh, very nice pun there, Debbie.
• 1:10:18
  It was quite illuminating,
• 1:10:20
  it is. Yeah. Yeah. They're here to bring light to the world, to all us peasants. And once you see them... David Attenborough as well attended.
• 1:10:28
  Unknown: What a surprise.
• 1:10:30
  Unknown: And
• 1:10:30
  Sherrie Blair.
• 1:10:32
  Unknown: Tony
• 1:10:34
  Blair, of course. Look
• 1:10:36
  at the current Sadik
• 1:10:39
  Khan,
• 1:10:40
  John Healy,
• 1:10:41
  Andy Burnham, obviously, because he's prime minister,
• 1:10:44
  Rachel Reeves,
• 1:10:46
  Emily Thornbury,
• 1:10:48
  Annalise Dodds.
• 1:10:50
  Have I said Sadiq Khan? Yes. I've said him. I mean, it's just...
• 1:10:54
  When I look at the government and I look at the cabinet, I can't see labor anymore. I can just see wolves in sheep's clothing,
• 1:11:03
  literally. I think if you have a picture in your head, you know, this this kind of
• 1:11:08
  people man, I don't know what he wants to call himself, Andy Burnham, a man of the people, whatever,
• 1:11:13
  holding a Freddo bar and a pint of beer in one hand,
• 1:11:18
  dressed as a wolf in sheep's clothing, would you really vote for him? I mean, we never voted for him anyway, but
• 1:11:24
  the I
• 1:11:25
  am worried that
• 1:11:27
  at the moment with the budget that we've just had,
• 1:11:30
  then it's gonna be prime time for Andy Burnham to call a snap general election. I know he's saying he's not going to,
• 1:11:36
  but I think the next budget is gonna be potentially
• 1:11:40
  horrific.
• 1:11:41
  And I think the right are in such a mess with restoring reform.
• 1:11:45
  They haven't got their acts together to be able to to win over Libs, the Lib Dems, the Greens, and and Labour if they all swing. Yeah.
• 1:11:55
  We don't have... Stand a chance.
• 1:11:58
  Unknown: So... Well, think... I mean, I don't know. I I tend to agree with you intellectually,
• 1:12:02
  but emotionally, I'm not going to Debbie.
• 1:12:05
  Yeah. I'm gonna be childish about it. I know what you mean. I think you... I mean, the right... First
• 1:12:11
  of all, we don't have a right wing.
• 1:12:13
  Although restore is nearest for me. I I wouldn't trust Farage in his garage as far as I could throw him. No. Because I didn't you point out that he's he's he hangs around in that Fabian club, doesn't he? On wherever it is? Well, Not the Fabian club. What what I found was Yeah. If you look at the Fabians who created the London School of Economics,
• 1:12:34
  Unknown: somebody
• 1:12:36
  else who works very closely with the London School of Economics and is liaising with them is the Marshall Institute,
• 1:12:41
  which is founded by Paul Marshall,
• 1:12:43
  who owns GB News, whose shareholder
• 1:12:46
  is Nigel Farage.
• 1:12:49
  Unknown: Golden Bennett.
• 1:12:50
  Unknown: What is this? Mate.
• 1:12:52
  There is just one big club, and we're not in it, thankfully. Do you know who headed the Eugenics Society?
• 1:12:58
  Unknown: Winston Churchill.
• 1:13:01
  Look at that up again on
• 1:13:05
  Wikipedia.
• 1:13:07
  Unknown: Need to know these things. People do need to know these things because
• 1:13:11
  we rely on
• 1:13:13
  romanticizing
• 1:13:15
  the past sometimes.
• 1:13:17
  And it just gets completely inverted, which again is one of the methods of
• 1:13:22
  the Fabians
• 1:13:24
  is inversion, permeate. Well, it's not so much inversion as permeation.
• 1:13:28
  But clearly what's happened is everything's been inverted. So good people are getting punished and bad people are getting rewarded. It's as simple as that.
• 1:13:36
  Unknown: Yeah,
• 1:13:38
  it
• 1:13:39
  happens a lot. I
• 1:13:40
  every time I was thinking, Eric, that maybe we should come up with a swear box for every time we say Winston Churchill
• 1:13:46
  because
• 1:13:48
  we vomit around what I do anyway,
• 1:13:51
  and this would be... And he's just a... He's probably the best case because people just do not understand how much destruction that man wrote in the world, let alone England. I mean, it's just it's off the charts. Evil. But, you know, it's not so much in his or these other puppets defense because I view them all as puppets. There's another force behind the back end of it all.
• 1:14:09
  You know, maybe one of the reasons why the so called right can't get its act together is that it's not supposed to.
• 1:14:16
  That this is by design that, you know, you go, the whole thing is just like a massive puppet show out front.
• 1:14:23
  So I don't think there is ultimately any political solution under the current circumstances.
• 1:14:28
  I'd like to think, and I could be completely wrong, and no doubt I will be, but I'd like to think that Rupert Lohi is certainly the least worst one in the room, and he's the only one to me that appears like an adult or is willing to use adult language to address the issues.
• 1:14:41
  But
• 1:14:42
  one also feels that were him and his party to get the power...
• 1:14:47
  And I've actually joined that party. I've never voted for a party, but I thought I'd join it because I I get little newsletters and things. I wanted to sort of have my finger on the pulse purely because they're the only ones that say anything about restoring the actual nation.
• 1:15:00
  I'm not into reforming it. Why would I want it reformed?
• 1:15:03
  It's just gonna go back to what it was prior to this, and that was a sinkhole as well. Why would you want to reform it back to something twenty thirty years ago, which is obviously the foundational cause of all the problems we've got now. It's just sort of like putting a brake on a on a crash anyway. I'm not that interested.
• 1:15:19
  And for Raj, I just don't trust him fundamentally.
• 1:15:22
  I just, I can't really. I I think he's compromised.
• 1:15:25
  I think they nearly all are, which of course is rather... It makes for a rather bleak view of everything. Well, can't anybody save us? Well, yeah, they can. It's called us.
• 1:15:33
  Unknown: We're the only ones that can save us. They've all gotta be usually scam friendly, haven't they? Mhmm. Because if they're not usually scam friendly, then their party will be destroyed,
• 1:15:43
  and they will be destroyed. So that's the problem. This is why we're paying loads
• 1:15:47
  and loads of taxes to pay off an ever inflating
• 1:15:50
  loan that doesn't exist.
• 1:15:52
  That's really what it's about. It's it's it's disruption.
• 1:15:55
  Unknown: Absolutely.
• 1:15:56
  There are all these control mechanisms, which you must have bumped into, Debbie. All of... I I... Just the way I view it, you go, oh, this is the problem. You go, no. Hang on. Stop. We we... Yeah. That's the surface problem. Whatever it is, the economy they're saying. But isn't the economy. It's the design of the bank as,
• 1:16:12
  Justin Walker regularly talks about, and rightly so.
• 1:16:17
  These things are absolutely key, but like, they're never gonna address the root engineering problem because they're all... They don't get a pay packet if that gets sorted out. That's really the problem in part of in part, I think.
• 1:16:29
  Unknown: So I I see it slightly differently in that it's all perfectly going to plan.
• 1:16:36
  This is the Kolergi plan as far as I can see. The Cloud Piven, I think it's called Cloud Piven Strategy.
• 1:16:43
  You mix those together and that's exactly what you've got. This is replacement.
• 1:16:49
  I'm not quite so sure about depopulation.
• 1:16:51
  Depopulation,
• 1:16:52
  surely,
• 1:16:53
  of
• 1:16:54
  the Germanics.
• 1:16:55
  But everywhere
• 1:16:58
  else seems to be populating very nicely.
• 1:17:01
  When I look back and I think, well,
• 1:17:03
  replacement level I think is 2.1.
• 1:17:06
  I just watched something from Cornwall Council tonight actually.
• 1:17:10
  And they were talking about school placements and they said, well actually we don't have enough children
• 1:17:15
  to fill the schools
• 1:17:16
  because the birth rate has gone down
• 1:17:19
  substantially.
• 1:17:20
  Whereas
• 1:17:21
  if you look at China, which was on one child replacement,
• 1:17:26
  they're still only just a replacement.
• 1:17:30
  I think the only country in the world that's at replacement now is India, just at India. So we can say depopulation,
• 1:17:38
  but actually I think it's more like replacement.
• 1:17:41
  Unknown: And I think you hit on something a little bit more important about a minute back.
• 1:17:45
  This... You used the word Germanics. That's what this is all about. Yeah. It's not about an attack on people of the earth.
• 1:17:52
  It's about an attack on us.
• 1:17:54
  And no one else.
• 1:17:56
  This is crystal clear. And of course you're bringing that up in polite society in England or amongst the middle class. This is tantamount to what are you a racist?
• 1:18:03
  And
• 1:18:05
  it's just no, we're a factualist.
• 1:18:07
  It is. Although I don't mind I don't mind even being called that. I couldn't care less because I sort of fall about laughing. And what do you actually mean by that, sir, madam? They don't know what they mean by it. They just know that they're supposed to call you that, you're supposed to start crying. I just burst out laughing. Mean, it's just insane. There's only one group being targeted for complete removal, and it's us. Yeah. That's all it's about. 7%.
• 1:18:27
  Unknown: We're only 7% of the world's population.
• 1:18:29
  I know. Tiny, tiny percent. And and people call call me racist. I've been called every name under the sun. I'm bored right now.
• 1:18:36
  Absolutely bored with it. I'm fed up with it. I'm really fed up with it because... It's best to agree with them though. I mean, I've been called everything under the sun.
• 1:18:45
  Unknown: And
• 1:18:45
  what it is, it's a stifle
• 1:18:48
  educated
• 1:18:49
  conversation
• 1:18:50
  and getting to the point of a conversation.
• 1:18:53
  Because it's it's generally the ignorant that say that. Oh, you're this. You're a that. And this is what children do in the playground. You're a sissy. You're a this. You know? And it's very, very childish. It drives me out the wall. It really does. I guess, you know, Eric,
• 1:19:07
  Unknown: in part, the most people just literally don't have
• 1:19:11
  the sort of foundational knowledge building blocks in their head to really understand the situation properly. You know, the diet that everybody's fed is courtesy of the jolly old mainstream media,
• 1:19:22
  which is in the same hands.
• 1:19:24
  I mean this is the bit that sort of makes you you go, well if we had an arena in which really honest truthful communication
• 1:19:32
  could take place
• 1:19:33
  in a calm and pretty English sort of way, we might be able to make some headway, but they know that. That's another thing. So that's blocked off too. It's just...
• 1:19:42
  It's the appearance
• 1:19:44
  of serious communication. It's total theater, the lot of it, because no one's addressing the engineering issues and what's going on. You're right about the 7%. I know, I think back in nineteen o five, so we're talking a hundred and twenty years ago, we accounted for about 28%
• 1:20:00
  of the world's population.
• 1:20:01
  Now we're down to what? You say 7%? I know it's small. Seven. Okay. So
• 1:20:07
  numerically,
• 1:20:08
  might actually be greater in numbers than we were.
• 1:20:11
  And I I know that the the replacement thing is is talked about, but personally that doesn't really concern me, because you can transform that overnight
• 1:20:19
  or very very rapidly
• 1:20:21
  with the correct family building policies.
• 1:20:24
  See
• 1:20:25
  see the Nazis in 1930,
• 1:20:27
  because that's one of the things by the way that I say, are you racist? No. I'm a Nazi actually. What have you got?
• 1:20:32
  And
• 1:20:33
  I've got anything else. You wanna call me anything else? Come on. Get stuck in. That's not enough.
• 1:20:38
  Know? Because
• 1:20:39
  people expecting you to jump back. It's it's because they don't... Like, they can't think about anything that makes them feel uncomfortable.
• 1:20:46
  And it's really at the micro level. That's where they've studied us. Know, you mentioned, I thought it was very good point that you're raising that we've been micromanaged and studied like rats in a lab for a long time, and I think much of it came through from... I think it's Kurt Lewin
• 1:21:00
  who was brought over here around
• 1:21:02
  about World War one or just after that and formed what was that? Was it Chatham House or something else? He was a German psychologist
• 1:21:12
  or psychiatrist,
• 1:21:13
  and if you look at mass
• 1:21:15
  sort of brainwashing,
• 1:21:17
  it really kicked off big time with all the atrocity propaganda
• 1:21:20
  around World War one. They had the control of the press
• 1:21:23
  and they were waging war on the minds of the British people to get them to fight our brothers in Germany in World War one, and and nobody... And this is why you've always got you... It was interesting what you said as well about old stuff. They drag up old stuff repeatedly.
• 1:21:38
  Oh, it's Nazis. I mean, what's his name?
• 1:21:41
  Jacob Rees Morgart was on a few weeks ago, started banging on about Hitler, I'm going, you thick. I mean, I think these people are thick.
• 1:21:48
  They're intelligently
• 1:21:49
  stupid
• 1:21:50
  because they're only... They're playing with less,
• 1:21:53
  way way less than half a full deck of information.
• 1:21:56
  And so they're bound to come to these repeated conclusions,
• 1:22:00
  And apparently it's always our fault you lazy peasants,
• 1:22:03
  mean there's nothing's changed at all, this goes back thousands of years. It's always the scum, us scum, we're the problem, not them,
• 1:22:11
  they're gods aren't they in their own lunchtime,
• 1:22:14
  That kind of stuff.
• 1:22:16
  Unknown: A 100%.
• 1:22:18
  I mean, it beggars belief really.
• 1:22:21
  I walk around and I think, oh gosh, who is actually causing all of this? And then I see so many people
• 1:22:27
  that have no they don't seem to have any idea
• 1:22:30
  of what's going on around them or right in And front of
• 1:22:34
  I feel like saying, you know, you're standing on a beach in your swimming trunks. You're about to go for a swim but there's a great big tsunami
• 1:22:43
  on its way and you can't even see
• 1:22:46
  the ripples in the waves yet. You're just quite happy to carry on swimming. And I just try to keep warning people and saying please
• 1:22:55
  will you look at the evidence?
• 1:22:57
  Will you check out what I'm saying? But people don't. And I listened to somebody today saying, Oh we're going to be launching
• 1:23:04
  this on our app. It was a Patreon
• 1:23:07
  group. And I thought, No, not an app. And I see all these people wanting you to input your information online. And I think, No, don't put it online.
• 1:23:17
  It's like we are all buying in. I know not all of us are and I know a lot of your audience won't be, but so many people are buying into this. 40,000,000 people apparently plus
• 1:23:28
  have downloaded the NHS app
• 1:23:31
  which is an app trap.
• 1:23:33
  It's an app tracker.
• 1:23:35
  It's not here to help you because the next thing down the line is your AI agent.
• 1:23:39
  And you won't have an app then. You'll have an AI agent who will organise everything for you. So this is dangerous but we're buying into it. And I keep saying, you know, if 10% of us, just 10% of us, cancelled our broadband,
• 1:23:53
  then there would be a problem.
• 1:23:55
  Because
• 1:23:56
  without them communicating all of this propaganda to us, and I agree with you, you know the BBC and Sky and Channel four, but I would also say
• 1:24:04
  that there are a lot of alternative media
• 1:24:07
  outlets that have popped up from nowhere. They've
• 1:24:11
  got huge, huge followings.
• 1:24:13
  Unknown: Oh, massive. Millions of followers Spot overnight
• 1:24:16
  Unknown: right
• 1:24:18
  on. And the so called truth movement in this country,
• 1:24:22
  they are a social engineer's dream. Because all it is is doom and gloom, doom and gloom, doom and gloom.
• 1:24:28
  And what is it Yuri Bezhenov said? Yuri Bezhenov, the chap that's a
• 1:24:33
  KGB
• 1:24:35
  ideological
• 1:24:36
  subversion expert
• 1:24:37
  who defected to the West in 1970.
• 1:24:40
  He said the idea is to get people
• 1:24:43
  into a state where truth means nothing.
• 1:24:46
  And this is what we got to. Truth means nothing. Lot of people to which, unfortunately, tragically, is the case.
• 1:24:52
  Unknown: They literally cannot see the wood for the trees at the moment. I'm just trying to be positive.
• 1:24:58
  Unknown: At the... Currently... People need to discern. I think people just need to ask questions because,
• 1:25:05
  I mean, I I know when when you're looking at mainstream media, legacy media, if you like, at least you know who's funding them. At least you know what their viewership
• 1:25:16
  is. At least you know how many people are watching them. Whereas with some alternative media platforms
• 1:25:23
  you don't know. They've come
• 1:25:25
  from nowhere. They've all of a sudden got some funding don't know where from. What's their narrative?
• 1:25:32
  What's behind it all? And you have to ask questions and sort of it's a minefield out there. It's a bit like the Wild West and you really have to be very careful
• 1:25:42
  who you listen to. I'm no different to anybody else.
• 1:25:48
  I've listened to people and thought, that sounds really good, and then heard something else and thought, oh, maybe not. Maybe I better...
• 1:25:55
  You have to discern in this day and age now who you listen to. Trust no one except yourself.
• 1:26:01
  Unknown: You're spot on. And and what I see now
• 1:26:04
  is
• 1:26:05
  very
• 1:26:06
  worrying parallels to 1939.
• 1:26:09
  Now both my parents suffer from shell shock from World War two. So I heard World War two every day of my life when I was very young.
• 1:26:17
  And the build up to World War two is taking almost identical
• 1:26:22
  path as what we've got now.
• 1:26:25
  And what they did
• 1:26:27
  is,
• 1:26:28
  at the beginning of 1939,
• 1:26:30
  the
• 1:26:31
  masses were totally against war. Because remember the Great War, as it was known then, which was the first world war, only been over for around twenty years.
• 1:26:40
  So it's fresh in people's minds.
• 1:26:42
  And they... Social engineers managed to change
• 1:26:45
  that in early nineteen thirty nine to people chomping at the bit late nineteen thirty nine.
• 1:26:51
  And the way they did it is what they're doing now,
• 1:26:54
  and it's it's quite disturbing.
• 1:26:57
  Have you... Has anybody noticed on social media Zelensky being interviewed
• 1:27:02
  Unknown: on one of the I was gonna mention that. You sent that to me the other day, and I can't remember the guy. Yeah. Now the guy that's hosting that,
• 1:27:10
  he's a race mix guy. I've forgotten his name, and he's good. But he's good. But he's come out... Yeah. Stuff. And then he's come out of nowhere.
• 1:27:18
  And... But that had over 3,000,000 views and thousands of comments, and no one was saying, hey. Isn't this a guy that's propped up by a corrupt billionaire
• 1:27:27
  who used to play the piano with his penis on TV?
• 1:27:31
  Yes. I mean, the idea that you would even interview Zelensky,
• 1:27:34
  although the media take him seriously tells you that the fix is in. You go,
• 1:27:39
  what? Aren't there any journalists left? No. There aren't actually. There aren't any. There's no pilgrims left or anybody like that Oh, no. That would ask those really uncomfortable questions, you know, the ones that would possibly elicit the truth. You don't get anything like that. And do you see the pictures always...
• 1:27:57
  Unknown: That what they're doing, they're appealing to ladies,
• 1:27:59
  the females. This is what they did in 1939.
• 1:28:02
  And you see Zelenskyy with a teddy bear, and he's talking about children all the way through.
• 1:28:07
  It's got all the all the...
• 1:28:10
  It's got all the hallmarks.
• 1:28:12
  But now this chap, I think it's Diary of a CEO, is it? Something like that. He's now gone and interviewed one of these policy
• 1:28:18
  students,
• 1:28:19
  one of these one of these, what do you call it,
• 1:28:23
  analysts.
• 1:28:24
  It's a female, American.
• 1:28:26
  And
• 1:28:27
  again,
• 1:28:28
  that's got... If you know what you're looking for, if you can see right through it,
• 1:28:33
  that is a 100% propaganda.
• 1:28:36
  And it's beautifully done. I have to admit, it's very cleverly done. And I would say,
• 1:28:42
  as with mass formation theory, 30% are gonna be
• 1:28:46
  totally won over by, and 40%
• 1:28:48
  will follow the 30%.
• 1:28:50
  Unknown: Because was it Well, I I... You know, the other thing as well, you know, these... You've probably seen this as well, Debbie, that they're saying...
• 1:28:57
  They put these polls out. Someone put one out the other day on thing that apparently labor are gonna get in.
• 1:29:03
  Some poll says that. Which poll? Who put it together? I've never been asked a polling question in my entire life. Right? And you go, it's just... It's predictive programming. Oh, they've already won. So people just assume that they have. They go, oh, yeah. I saw this thing called a poll,
• 1:29:19
  and it must be honorable and truthful because it's a poll right by an independent polling organization.
• 1:29:25
  Is it? Is it independent?
• 1:29:27
  It's just the whole... Because the narrative is controlled, this is part of it. You know, had a good little quip today. It's just to do with sales, but that's really what we're involved with. We're involved with the the selling of the truth. In other words, want people to purchase the truth as opposed to the lies,
• 1:29:42
  and it's and I think this is part of a constructive path for all of us really, and I've mentioned this before,
• 1:29:48
  is that facts
• 1:29:49
  tell
• 1:29:51
  but stories
• 1:29:52
  sell.
• 1:29:53
  And we've got some phenomenal stories to tell on this side,
• 1:29:58
  And, you know, part and parcel of sort of building FFT
• 1:30:00
  and all of the things that Eric does, all... And you as well, Debbie, and everybody else in this space,
• 1:30:06
  we have to keep working and banging away. I don't... You know, even... No matter what, right up to the supposedly whatever the very end might be,
• 1:30:14
  to get these stories out and to tell them in an engaging way. I mean, you know, look, if people are just terrified
• 1:30:21
  the minute you mention one particular keyword and runoff, there's not too much you can do. But on a positive, I do think there are more and more people lingering around the conversation in general terms, and I think that things are definitely going in the right direction. They're just not going anywhere near fast enough.
• 1:30:39
  So
• 1:30:40
  it's a it's a challenging situation, no doubt, but this is where we find ourselves.
• 1:30:44
  Unknown: What what
• 1:30:45
  should we... With conscription,
• 1:30:48
  what they're doing, for example, it was 6%
• 1:30:51
  of people. Now they fake statistics,
• 1:30:55
  And Churchill,
• 1:30:56
  who was a warmonger,
• 1:30:58
  he actually
• 1:30:59
  faked the... He he built his speech
• 1:31:03
  on
• 1:31:03
  fake statistics. And he said the majority of people want conscription in this country, but the majority of people didn't. Now I've noticed they're doing again the same as 1939
• 1:31:15
  where it was 6% of people
• 1:31:17
  would be in favor of fighting for this country.
• 1:31:20
  Now it's moved up to 47%.
• 1:31:23
  Really?
• 1:31:25
  Really?
• 1:31:26
  And they're going to keep fudging
• 1:31:29
  these statistics.
• 1:31:30
  How do they make that out? Where did they come in from? And what it is, it's all invented.
• 1:31:35
  Social engineers are inventing it. So people say, oh, it's human nature. They wanna be with the majority.
• 1:31:41
  And they did that in 1939,
• 1:31:43
  and they're gonna... And they're... Well, they're doing it now. I'm watching it now. It's from 6% to 47%
• 1:31:49
  in about a month.
• 1:31:51
  Oh, yeah. Oh, really? And then you look at some of the polls, it's getting closer and closer that people want into... Conscription to be introduced. No. They don't.
• 1:32:00
  But they're going to make out that Yeah. It's predictive programming.
• 1:32:04
  Unknown: I mean, Debbie, going forward from this point where we are right now, what do you think are sort of like the key
• 1:32:09
  activity areas that people...
• 1:32:12
  Key is probably a bit over the top, but what what activity areas
• 1:32:16
  do you think are really worthwhile pursuing for
• 1:32:18
  for everybody listening here, for all of us? Do you think about that kind of stuff? What do you Yeah, think it'd 100.
• 1:32:25
  Unknown: I think
• 1:32:27
  at the end of the day, we know that things are probably not gonna get an awful lot better out there
• 1:32:33
  before they get worse. So we know that we've got pretty grim time possibly ahead of us. So I think the time is ripe now
• 1:32:42
  for... I mean,
• 1:32:44
  when you go back to COVID days, we had Stand in the Park,
• 1:32:48
  which was great because you met... But then as soon as the Israel Gaza thing came, you found that the community that you were...
• 1:32:55
  You did have, suddenly, you had a political bias. And some people split off to the left, some people split off to the right and all of the stand in the parks or a lot of them kind of got a lot smaller and some of them even disappeared.
• 1:33:09
  I would like to see more community groups not online
• 1:33:13
  and I know a lot of people are organizing things where you can log in your details and see who is near you and in your near neighborhood.
• 1:33:22
  I would prefer something far more holistic
• 1:33:26
  and
• 1:33:27
  authentic,
• 1:33:28
  like people meeting up that want to talk about, look, I'm an electrician,
• 1:33:34
  sharing skills,
• 1:33:35
  sharing knowledge,
• 1:33:37
  being there for each other and being a community. Because I think really when you look at practical things,
• 1:33:45
  protests clearly aren't working.
• 1:33:47
  And sadly petitions
• 1:33:49
  aren't working either.
• 1:33:51
  And I'm sure that everybody
• 1:33:53
  listening nobody wants civil war, nobody does. But you hear it all the time. It's like the civil war drums are being banged all the time and everyone's on tender hooks thinking, Is this going to be it? Are we going to follow in
• 1:34:08
  France's footsteps?
• 1:34:09
  I think we all have to take a stand. I mean, if I was military, which I'm not because I'm a nurse,
• 1:34:16
  if I was military,
• 1:34:19
  I think what I would do is I would look at how the country is right at the moment because I think what's happening is we're almost balkanizing the country. So we're going to get areas of the country
• 1:34:31
  which maybe will be dominated by people from other countries.
• 1:34:35
  And then we're going to get parts of the country which are still primarily
• 1:34:40
  the population of The United Kingdom born and bred British, might say. So I think we need to be defending what we've got
• 1:34:49
  and
• 1:34:50
  then all pushing together. We need to be much more cohesive. And in order to do that, we need to be much more community, not communitarianism,
• 1:34:58
  I hate that word. But we do need to be more community based. I mean, I'm a nurse. I've
• 1:35:03
  got a friend down the road who's an electrician,
• 1:35:06
  who's very aware of what's going on. I've got another friend up the road who grows
• 1:35:11
  their own food and is teaching me how to grow our own food as well. I think you have to become as resilient as you can.
• 1:35:19
  And
• 1:35:20
  I've learned now that
• 1:35:22
  actually I can't waste my energy on people that really don't want to listen.
• 1:35:28
  Because
• 1:35:29
  there are some people that it's just not worth engaging with. And you're right. People are getting scared
• 1:35:36
  to talk out. I know I spoke to somebody last night, an elderly lady
• 1:35:40
  who was arrested at 04:00 in the morning and dragged out of her house.
• 1:35:45
  I mean
• 1:35:47
  it's crazy the things that are happening to people so people are fearful. I think people need to engage as much as possible
• 1:35:54
  with their local community. I think that's all we can do. Mitigate
• 1:35:58
  what is coming and keep talking.
• 1:36:01
  Know because talking
• 1:36:03
  is human contact. They want us to look in these black mirrors.
• 1:36:07
  I suggest we all look in the bathroom mirror. Look in the bathroom mirror and see how you are. If you're walking and talking
• 1:36:14
  and your color is good and you're drinking and you're standing up looking in the mirror you're probably fine.
• 1:36:20
  Don't listen to all of this baloney online
• 1:36:24
  testing for something or that something might be wrong with you.
• 1:36:28
  Look in the mirror. Let's get back to basics. Let's get back to paper and pen. Let's get back to talking to people. Let's get back to debating.
• 1:36:36
  Let's revert
• 1:36:38
  back to what we were. Don't allow them to invert
• 1:36:43
  us and to make us think that we're all going mad because we're not. It's the lunatics running the asylum at the moment. We've all got this far.
• 1:36:51
  We can get further. I think everybody
• 1:36:54
  that's
• 1:36:55
  listening to you now, listening to us now,
• 1:36:58
  I think we should all give ourselves a bloody great big pat on the back, to be honest. Because... Spot on. We're still sane. We're still we're still talking. We're still debating. We can still have different opinions,
• 1:37:09
  but get on with one another. So humanity
• 1:37:12
  still does exist. Common sense still does exist. We've just got to bring it back.
• 1:37:17
  Unknown: That's absolutely excellent. But do you believe that what is happening is demonic? Yes.
• 1:37:24
  When you look at architecture,
• 1:37:26
  it's demonic now, very demonic.
• 1:37:30
  Because
• 1:37:31
  I detest brutalist
• 1:37:32
  architecture, modern architecture,
• 1:37:35
  post modern architecture.
• 1:37:36
  We lost our way in 1914
• 1:37:38
  with Art Nouveau.
• 1:37:39
  We got to the peak,
• 1:37:41
  and
• 1:37:42
  I I had... Well, I wouldn't say argument, but very heated discussions
• 1:37:47
  with people in the office.
• 1:37:49
  And I asked what was the black sheep because I think we lost our way in 1914.
• 1:37:53
  We got to the peak of historical...
• 1:37:56
  Architectural
• 1:37:57
  excellence
• 1:37:58
  in 1914.
• 1:37:59
  Unknown: I think you're right, Eric, but I don't think it's necessarily down to the fact that we lost our way. I think somebody else's way
• 1:38:07
  has been injected into the power centers. That's really what's happened. You're right. And there there are still good people. I heard somebody talking about Roger Scruton,
• 1:38:16
  who I've mentioned quite a few times on here. Are you familiar with him, Debbie? Do you know of him? No. I'm not. No. No. He's no longer with us. He passed away a few years ago, but he was a philosopher,
• 1:38:27
  but a wonderful man.
• 1:38:28
  I'm not saying that philosophers aren't wonderful people, but he was a wonderful philosopher and a wonderful man. He did a documentary about fifteen years ago
• 1:38:36
  called
• 1:38:37
  On Beauty,
• 1:38:40
  and it's
• 1:38:42
  it's gotta be available somewhere on the Internet. It's about an hour long. It's absolutely brilliant. It's a... And I watch it every couple of years just to get reminded about what's good in this world and what's bad.
• 1:38:53
  And he's looking at things like modern art and modern architecture and the sheer miserable, awful nature of the whole thing. And I was listening to someone this morning who was talking about him. I... This guy was on,
• 1:39:04
  I think it was on the Paul Cox show or something this morning. I don't know his name, unfortunately, but it was a wonderful segment for about fifteen, twenty minutes. And what he was saying, Scruton's observation about buildings was really rather... You'll like this, Eric. He said, the problem with ugly buildings
• 1:39:19
  is that nobody wants to go into them.
• 1:39:22
  And so they start off with a great fanfare,
• 1:39:24
  and in due course, they are empty.
• 1:39:28
  People just cannot don't want to be in them, a bit like the design of modern hospitals.
• 1:39:33
  They demoralize
• 1:39:34
  you, there's something absent which is called beauty,
• 1:39:39
  if you think about everything that we do, everything from
• 1:39:43
  donning a shirt or the... We try to do it well, don't we? For personal satisfaction reasons. Yes. And also that if you're handing it on to someone, if you've done... You want them to be pleased.
• 1:39:54
  You do. You just go, yeah. I want to get paid because I worked five weeks on this thing, but I also want you to look at this extension I've built for you, and I want you to tell me that I've done a really good job and that is... And it's got some... And it's handsome. Like, you can't make extensions beautiful all the time, but you know what I mean? That's a really good job, and you've really added to the value of my life because I now live in this environment,
• 1:40:16
  and it's as important to me as my underpants are because it's for my comfort. You know what I mean? That kind of stuff. Yeah. So that observation by Screwton is brilliant. It's definitely worth checking out, Debbie. He's just a wonderful guy. Absolutely wonderful man,
• 1:40:29
  and wants England... And he wanted England back whilst he was alive. So he he would have fitted in here great,
• 1:40:34
  Unknown: if I could have ever gotten him on. But he was a he was a very intelligent fella. Lovely guy. I came up against words... I call it a word solid. All the time, you don't have to have a word solid to discuss beauty. You look at something, you either think it's beautiful or it's ugly.
• 1:40:49
  I mean, that building in Hammersmith,
• 1:40:51
  the one that we... That architect that we like.
• 1:40:56
  Unknown: Stop it. I I've got to sleep tonight, Eric. I've got to try and sleep tonight. It just flashed up in my head, and I'm just feeling ill thinking about Brutalist
• 1:41:05
  Unknown: architecture. And now, you know, people said, oh, it's because people are frightened about the news. It's because it's modern.
• 1:41:13
  People didn't like Tower Bridge when it was built, but they just got used to it. No.
• 1:41:17
  A Tower Bridge is a beautiful piece of engineering.
• 1:41:21
  And when you look at it, it it
• 1:41:24
  it... It's just perfectly designed. It's it's it's well designed.
• 1:41:28
  But you you look at... What is beautiful about concrete
• 1:41:32
  and square blocks? That's all it is. Because
• 1:41:36
  I believe it does affect your subconscious.
• 1:41:39
  And they proved they proved that in the nineteen seventies with this thing we call defendable space.
• 1:41:45
  And you have a communal area
• 1:41:47
  with no... There's board around it. No. They put a six inch. People were just throwing litter everywhere
• 1:41:53
  and walking over this communal space. And they put a small fence up that was about a foot or two foot high, you know, money, around this fence.
• 1:42:03
  And then the camera crew went back a couple of weeks later and they set foot on this. Someone said, excuse me. What are doing here?
• 1:42:08
  Where before,
• 1:42:10
  nobody could have given a damn. It's because people had defendable space. They said, that's theirs. And this is what they're trying to do. They're dehumanizing
• 1:42:18
  people
• 1:42:19
  by these... By the architecture,
• 1:42:22
  Unknown: sculpture, everything is is disgusting. It really is. It's really psychological warfare. People... In the end, we all end up not being able to see what's in front of our own nose, as Orwell said. Although Orwell was fundamentally one of them in a way. He was a Fabian.
• 1:42:37
  Unknown: In 1994,
• 1:42:38
  Ambrave New World came out of the Fabian Society.
• 1:42:42
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:42:44
  Unknown: And where we're heading for
• 1:42:46
  is transhumanism.
• 1:42:48
  And you know people need to be mindful of, yeah we all know the wonders
• 1:42:54
  of
• 1:42:55
  medical technology that can
• 1:42:58
  make somebody that can't hear hear and make somebody
• 1:43:01
  blind
• 1:43:02
  see again.
• 1:43:03
  That's amazing. However, what we're doing now is we're using med tech and we're implanting basically we're going to be implanting our phones
• 1:43:11
  into our bodies. I read probably one of the most terrifying books that I've ever read,
• 1:43:17
  and it's called The Artillect War by Professor Hugo De Garris.
• 1:43:22
  And
• 1:43:23
  he invents and he builds artificial brains.
• 1:43:28
  Artificial brains.
• 1:43:30
  And he says in his book,
• 1:43:32
  Am I a monster because I can't sleep at night because I know that I'm literally
• 1:43:37
  eliminating
• 1:43:38
  my grandchildren from humanity?
• 1:43:41
  But I have such a passion, I have to keep going. I mean, it's terrifying.
• 1:43:45
  But that's what we're looking at is transhumanism
• 1:43:47
  so that humanity
• 1:43:50
  is gonna be wiped out. Creation. This is an attack,
• 1:43:54
  in my opinion, on creation itself.
• 1:43:57
  Unknown: Yes. I agree.
• 1:43:58
  Yes. Mean, I...
• 1:44:00
  An overarching word I'm using more and more to describe the whole thing is Babylonian.
• 1:44:04
  Because,
• 1:44:05
  you know, if you go back to that period,
• 1:44:08
  at least as far as I understand it currently, and I'll know that I'll get to find out more because I've got reading materials lined up on this.
• 1:44:14
  But basically the
• 1:44:16
  ongoing spiritual war,
• 1:44:18
  spiritual wickedness in high places,
• 1:44:21
  is that certain groups,
• 1:44:23
  entities, nations, whatever throughout history,
• 1:44:26
  they end up with leaders who forget that they don't know their head from their backside,
• 1:44:31
  and they're pursuing all how matter works and all these other things. I understand this. Right? And there are benefits to be had, but there's always their real covert agenda, which is for them to have more total control
• 1:44:44
  over everybody else. Because I think in part, you know, I can't explain all of it. I don't know the psychology of these people fully, and I guess in a way I don't really want to.
• 1:44:54
  They've rejected God.
• 1:44:56
  It's as simple as that. And they are, you know, the whole thing is that we are gods,
• 1:45:01
  and we want you to worship us. And you won't, so we're gonna just control you so that it looks like you're worshiping us or whatever it may be.
• 1:45:08
  It's to destroy the natural order of things and to replace it with a better version. This is what they tell themselves, you know, and it's utopianism
• 1:45:16
  and it's a terrible disease.
• 1:45:19
  I mean, it's it's it's literally, it is the rivers of blood everywhere.
• 1:45:24
  Everywhere in history whenever they get going on these, oh, we're gonna improve society.
• 1:45:29
  And we go, look mate, the best way to improve society is could you just could you just top yourself?
• 1:45:35
  Why don't you just old bugger off? Because you're the problem. They always keep thinking that it's got to be improved. I mean, whole of the Fabian thing,
• 1:45:43
  the commie thing,
• 1:45:45
  all of it is...
• 1:45:46
  Even that if you actually start to peel the story apart, it's false. They've created
• 1:45:52
  all the problems, which they then rock up and say, we've got the solutions for them. Yeah, but if you want to create these problems in the first place, the natural order will take care of itself.
• 1:46:01
  I mean, the other thing as well, know, just going back to the Germanic thing that you mentioned, Debbie,
• 1:46:07
  And this might might...
• 1:46:09
  You know, I stumbled across this a few days ago. That is a really interesting way of of thinking about it. When you're walking around and you bump into one of our people,
• 1:46:18
  right, you know, by race,
• 1:46:21
  You're actually dealing with people who come from a long line of people who've been under the influence of the better aspects of of a Christian education,
• 1:46:30
  and people go, well that's not a big deal, it is. It is a big deal. It's a massive deal. If you look at the way that we behave,
• 1:46:37
  you look at things, there are all these signposts up and down history. For example, the arrival of chivalry
• 1:46:43
  in battle and warfare,
• 1:46:45
  to be gracious after you've defeated an enemy and vice versa and not to behave like some savage pig.
• 1:46:52
  Although, of course, savage pig behavior did occur repeatedly. But if you look... I was watching this thing that the guy... I just thought he meant it was a brilliant point. He said, you're seeing someone who's two thousand, three thousand years of evolution of moving towards
• 1:47:05
  a behavior pattern for our people, which is based on accommodation
• 1:47:09
  of others to the best as he can under
• 1:47:12
  the umbrella of law, true actual law. And he was comparing it to the behavior of the red Indians when the English first went over there in the sixteen hundreds.
• 1:47:21
  And I've mentioned this one before as well. People think, oh, this is a long time ago, but these things take thousands of years, I would suggest,
• 1:47:30
  or I think, to flush their way out of people's systems, and the Indians didn't behave that way towards one another, let alone the white man.
• 1:47:39
  I mean,
• 1:47:40
  example, they had a god, I forgot the Oki, I think he's... This is the god of pain,
• 1:47:45
  And so, you know, with defeated enemies, they would inflict the most horrific tortures on these people, which makes us sick thinking about it. In fact, when we see in the news these days, and a lot of that is taking place in Palestine right now, whatever you may think about it, there's some horrific things taking place there. We're ill. We don't know how to cope with it, you know, because we've got...
• 1:48:05
  I suspect, you know,
• 1:48:07
  we're kind of unconscious about the higher sensibilities that we've developed. I know when you look around at Fabians and politicians, you go, I don't think you're right there Paul. No, with regards to that group of people, certainly not.
• 1:48:18
  But you know it's different,
• 1:48:20
  it's different and I think this is why we are earmarked.
• 1:48:24
  There's something about that mode of behavior
• 1:48:27
  that puts
• 1:48:29
  a much of the leaders of the rest of the world. It puts their noses at a joint,
• 1:48:33
  and it's definitely us that are being completely wiped out. I think the whole of the last century was about that by creating these brothers wars between England and Germany. Wholly unnecessary both of them, but all organized by the same hands that are currently behind the Fabian society. The same sort of ideology and mentality. We can do better and we're going, well, we can if you if you're not around, please. If you go away, we can certainly do better. But you won't leave us alone.
• 1:48:59
  So, you know,
• 1:49:01
  Unknown: I think that's part of it. I agree. I think... And this is where we come back to the Fabians is that's why I keep barking on about them. It's because it's not a conspiracy theory.
• 1:49:13
  It's because
• 1:49:14
  they're not a secret society.
• 1:49:17
  They're in plain sight. They're not clandestine.
• 1:49:21
  They might not want you to see them
• 1:49:24
  and they're there. They're there. And they have full control. And I think, you know, going back to what you said, what can we do in the future?
• 1:49:31
  I think the other thing that we can do, it's really simple,
• 1:49:34
  So simple but then a lot of the things are simple, aren't they? But it's those two letters, N O. No. We have to learn to say no. Gareth Icast a
• 1:49:44
  very interesting question today
• 1:49:46
  on X. He said, Do the British public have a spine?
• 1:49:50
  And I think that is a question that maybe we'll see answered in the foreseeable future.
• 1:49:57
  I don't know but I think we have to learn to say no.
• 1:50:02
  Unknown: Yes, I agree with you. Yes to no. Yes to no. We say yes to no, we do.
• 1:50:09
  Well I think many of the people listening here have got it. I
• 1:50:13
  think there's more of us that have got that condition, the good condition, than we currently know. I think, you know, connecting...
• 1:50:19
  Unknown: But we're polite. We're almost polite to the point of being silly at times. I agree with you. We don't complain in restaurants. Foreigners do, but we don't. Because we are very polite. We've been brought up polite, but I think we're being
• 1:50:31
  dumbed down, as I say, deliberately
• 1:50:34
  so they can destroy us.
• 1:50:36
  That... That's pretty obvious.
• 1:50:38
  But I feel I feel that any battle
• 1:50:43
  is won in the hearts and minds of people, and what they keep doing is depressing us. It's all doom and gloom. It's fear. And a fearful fearful population is a controllable one. This is what I often say to people.
• 1:50:55
  Let's, as you're saying, Debbie, with communities and things like that, let's ignore governments out of existence. No. We're not interested. We're not going to do it. We're not... We're not gonna go down that route. Because I'm one of these weirdos that believes we don't need government.
• 1:51:11
  And now if we stop government... If I click click click my fingers and government ended tomorrow,
• 1:51:16
  it would be absolute anarchy and chaos.
• 1:51:19
  No. It'd have to be a very gradual thing.
• 1:51:22
  But I think that the big problem with governments, it attracts psychopaths,
• 1:51:27
  demonic psychopaths,
• 1:51:29
  always has done and always will do.
• 1:51:31
  And then the government is the biggest killer
• 1:51:34
  that there's ever been. It's killed more of its own people
• 1:51:38
  than all the wars put together.
• 1:51:40
  That's the trouble with governments. That that... If you looked at it like an illness,
• 1:51:44
  think of the amount of... It it would put all these
• 1:51:48
  pandemics or whatever into a cocked hat compared to what governments do. Oh, it does. Yeah.
• 1:51:53
  Billion
• 1:51:54
  people, Mao wiped out a billion. Just work that there. Billion. Then you had Stalin. How many did he wipe out? 100,000? I heard something about Mao today, you know. I think there's some politician in Europe. Was it Poland
• 1:52:08
  Unknown: or somewhere? It had to take this back. He said that Mao was a, you know, a genocidal
• 1:52:14
  dictator.
• 1:52:15
  The Chinese are upset about this. They have lots of trade contracts with China,
• 1:52:20
  so he can't say it and has had to apologize for it. This is how insidious this stuff is. No no, but come on, this is not the first time, this stuff happens all the time. People back off because they're controlled through economic forces that are around the back of the
• 1:52:34
  of the thing. One other thing I wanted to mention, know, I'm always talking about Liz Truss. Well, not always, but I mentioned it quite a bit.
• 1:52:42
  And she had a... She's got a new book out this week called Bank Job. Have you heard of it?
• 1:52:46
  Yeah.
• 1:52:47
  Yeah. So I got a copy and I've read about 25 pages and it's really it's really very good.
• 1:52:53
  It's it's an insight into Fabian behavior. Not that you need any more of it Debbie, I would have thought, but it's there. It's
• 1:53:00
  absolutely there. You know, like I said,
• 1:53:02
  Andrew Big Boots Bailey is a Fabian. He's a London School of Economy. They all are, and she talks about this. Yeah. But she talks about it throughout the book. You know, this phrase the blob is really good because that's what we're dealing with. It's got all of these aspects to it. She talks the civil service is completely
• 1:53:21
  infested with this ideology. That's why nothing can be done, know, you go, can we stop the boats? No. Because Bob Smith is a Fabian and he's in charge of that and he's gonna pretend to you that he's fixing it, but it's gonna take eighteen years by which time the problem will be insurmountable.
• 1:53:37
  It's that those delaying tactics that they use all the time. The whole processes as totally subverted.
• 1:53:43
  Unknown: Yeah. She's pushing her book she's pushing her book an awful lot. But Yeah. Just before I go, because I know time's clicking on.
• 1:53:51
  With Liz Truss...
• 1:53:52
  So the opposite, if you like,
• 1:53:55
  the right leaning think tank is called the Bow Group. The Bow, B O W, Group.
• 1:54:01
  Many people might not have heard of them. In fact, their website's down at the moment. Now Liz Truss,
• 1:54:07
  she says a lot of good stuff.
• 1:54:09
  But I just want to point out somewhere called 5 Hartford Street,
• 1:54:13
  which is where Liz Truss,
• 1:54:17
  she conducted all the Brexit negotiations
• 1:54:20
  at 5 Hartford Street. So where you think that 10 Downing Street is where all the work gets done it isn't it? It's just a facade, it's a press office basically.
• 1:54:28
  All the business as far as the Tories are concerned takes place and Nigel Farage by the way and the celebrities and the royals. Harry and Meghan had their first date at 5 Hartford Street Nigel Farage is a frequent Aaron Banks there's all sorts of people that have frequented David Cameron all sorts of people that have frequented
• 1:54:47
  5 Hartford Street and it's a private members club now Liz Truss
• 1:54:52
  she wanted to claim I think government funds
• 1:54:57
  for she wanted to claim expenses
• 1:55:00
  to
• 1:55:01
  have a lunch with somebody something like £3,000
• 1:55:04
  I think to have a lunch
• 1:55:07
  on us the taxpayer
• 1:55:09
  at 5 Hartford Street.
• 1:55:11
  So this is a club that is so secret you have to be vetted and you have to be nominated
• 1:55:17
  before you can be admitted. You can't get on the website If you go onto 5 Hartford Street website, unless you're a member, you're
• 1:55:25
  not allowed access.
• 1:55:26
  The people that go are the
• 1:55:29
  royals, celebs and politicians.
• 1:55:32
  But when Liz Truss
• 1:55:34
  requested departmental funds, I'm sure it was for 3 ks, there was hell eye up. I think
• 1:55:40
  she was going to talk to Biden's trade rep or something at
• 1:55:44
  five Hartford Street. So it's got a club at the bottom of it as well called Lulu's. It's owned by
• 1:55:50
  Robin Burley
• 1:55:51
  who's
• 1:55:53
  related to the goldsmiths.
• 1:55:55
  It's all goldsmiths and Rothschilds basically.
• 1:55:58
  So whilst
• 1:55:59
  we're looking at the Fabians,
• 1:56:02
  quite rightly,
• 1:56:03
  and whilst we're looking at the good stuff that Liz Truss is saying in her book, she's really promoting it. In fact she was really cross with Dan Wooten today. She was really really cross with him because he was asking her what
• 1:56:15
  her thoughts were on the Tommy Robinson verdict.
• 1:56:18
  And she kept saying I haven't listened to it. I haven't followed it. I'm here to talk about my book. I'm here to to promote my book, and that's what she's doing. So I've learned now just to
• 1:56:30
  step back.
• 1:56:31
  However good someone sounds,
• 1:56:33
  step back and follow the money.
• 1:56:37
  Unknown: Spot on. Oh, yeah. Spot on. Yes. Yeah. We always go to banking. It's just that we can't talk about it every week, Debbie, because we'll just drive everybody crazy. But it is it's it's ultimately that's...
• 1:56:47
  Anybody that says, I'm gonna fix the bank, we need to get them a bodyguard of 10,000 men that morning. Yeah. Seriously, because that's really what you're dealing with. Street though. Honestly, it's the best case. I did actually, after you mentioned it to me on Monday. Yeah. It's very interesting. It's a private members club. I don't suppose I'd be able to get in. I probably wouldn't even be able to afford the fees, would I? Oh, £3,000
• 1:57:06
  for a lunch. That's about as much as I spend on food in,
• 1:57:09
  oh, a a week these days, not because of the food prices. First, you've gotta be vetted. You've gotta be sponsored,
• 1:57:16
  Unknown: and you're not allowed mobile phones. You're not allowed cameras. There's no cameras in there. Oh, it's very,
• 1:57:22
  Unknown: very I brush up nice. I could I could go to the barbers, they might they might vet me and let me in. Yeah.
• 1:57:28
  I don't... You see, the thing is, I don't wanna swing all... I know exactly what you mean. I just tend to... One of my sort of little operating things is, I'm into little truthful statements even if they come out of the backside of a mouse,
• 1:57:40
  and it never says anything truthful ever again. So some of the things that Liz Truss has said are true whether she said them or not. Anybody who'd said those things It's simply because she did sort of get close to the levers of power for forty seven days. It's very interesting seeing how she was instantaneously
• 1:57:57
  undermined by a barrage of departments,
• 1:58:00
  because
• 1:58:01
  I'm not saying that her policies are exactly what I would like. The main policy is to shut down the city of London
• 1:58:07
  and have those people arrested and then interrogated
• 1:58:11
  or, you know, interviewed is a kind of word. And I do mean that,
• 1:58:15
  And and they've got to be sectioned and cut off from all their communication networks. Otherwise, you're just gonna get it coming back. But it's such a
• 1:58:22
  seasoned and developed disease that we've got right in the heart of things.
• 1:58:26
  Debbie, it's been fantastic having you on. I mean, really, I've just enjoyed it so much. It's just wonderful. And I'd love to have you back again, maybe before the year's out, if you've got the time. Where compete... What are you doing at the moment if people wanna catch you? You've got about half a minute to just say a few words. I'm I'm just on X, really, at debbie matron at debbie evans matron. And then you'll find me... Chris on LSB productions, I've just done a couple of podcasts with him, one on The Fabians. So Yeah. That's on LSB. But just catch me where you can, really. But thank you for that. Isn't he? I I...
• 1:58:59
  Chris is a really good guy. Yeah. So Chris, again, shout out. Thank you very much for hooking me up with Debbie because it's been brilliant, and he's doing some really good work. Excellent. And he's very steady in his energy, isn't he? He's great. Oh, he is so calm. Honestly, he's got the voice. He's got such a radio voice too. It's I'll get him in here. We'll get him in here. I will. I'll I'll get him in. Thank you so much for inviting me. It's been an absolute pleasure. I'm... Keep smiling, everybody. We've got this far. We can get further.
• 1:59:26
  We can. I've got a little... I'm gonna play us out in the crossover. So we're we're leaving WBN, and Debbie, just to let you know, don't know if you like Rudyard Kipling, but one of the songs is the female of the species is more deadly than the male. So in... So
• 1:59:39
  I'm gonna play that right now.
• 1:59:41
  If we're leaving night. Yeah. Fantastic. We're leaving you on WBN. If you wanna carry on listening, hop on over to paulenglishlive.com
• 1:59:49
  and hook up to the links on YouTube, Rumble, or FFT radio where we're going out for another hour. Monica Schafer from Canada is gonna be joining us in the next hour.
• 1:59:58
  So on WBN,
• 1:59:59
  we'll see you all next week, but everywhere else, we're carrying on into hour three. Here's a bit of mister Kipling for you.
• 2:00:18
  Unknown: When the Himalayan
• 2:00:21
  peasant meets,
• 2:00:22
  the Heber in his pride,
• 2:00:25
  he shouts to scare the monster
• 2:00:28
  who will often turn aside.
• 2:00:31
  But the she bear thus accosted,
• 2:00:34
  rends the peasant tooth and nail
• 2:00:37
  For the female of the species is more deadly than the male
• 2:00:45
  When Ag the basking cobra hears the careless foot of man.
• 2:00:51
  He will sometimes wriggle sideways
• 2:00:54
  and avoid it if he can.
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  But his maiden makes no such motion
• 2:01:00
  where she camps beside the trail,
• 2:01:03
  for the female of the species
• 2:01:07
  is more deadly than the male.
• 2:01:12
  When the early Jesuit fathers preached to Hurons and
• 2:01:34
  Unknown: to
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  Unknown: And
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  Unknown: And
• 2:01:43
  Unknown: say. See
• 2:01:45
  For the the woman that God gave him isn't his to give away.
• 2:01:50
  But when Hunter meets with husband,
• 2:01:53
  each confers
• 2:01:55
  the other's tale.
• 2:01:57
  The female of the species
• 2:02:00
  is more deadly
• 2:02:01
  than the male.
• 2:02:05
  Manner bear in most relations,
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  worm and savage otherwise.
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  Man prepounds
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  negotiations,
• 2:02:14
  man accepts the compromise.
• 2:02:17
  Very rarely will he squarely
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  push the logic of the fact
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  not deal in doubt or pity, must not swerve for fact or jest.
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  These be purely male diversions,
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  not in these her honor dwells.
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  She,
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  And
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  night.
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  Of
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  spouse and child.
• 2:03:47
  So it comes that man, coward,
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  when he gathers to
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  confer
• 2:03:54
  with his fellow braves in council,
• 2:03:57
  dare not leave a place for her.
• 2:04:00
  Where at war with life and conscience,
• 2:04:03
  he uplifts
• 2:04:04
  his erring hands
• 2:04:06
  to some god of abstract justice,
• 2:04:11
  which no woman
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  the
• 2:04:27
  him.
• 2:04:28
  And she knows because she wants him and her instincts never fail
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  that the female
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  of her species
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  is more
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  Unknown: Great poem.
• 2:05:07
  Quite a good song there.
• 2:05:09
  If you like a bit of Kipling to music, and I know I do, that's, if you wanna catch more of that stuff,
• 2:05:15
  that's a YouTube channel called
• 2:05:18
  Epocalypse,
• 2:05:19
  e p o c h a l y p s e. Epocalypse.
• 2:05:24
  Not apocalypse,
• 2:05:25
  but epocalypse.
• 2:05:26
  Anyway, it seemed appropriate. We just had Debbie on,
• 2:05:29
  and so she's probably more deadly than the male. And we've also now got
• 2:05:35
  another female on who's more deadly than the male, and that's Monica Schafer. Monica, hi. Welcome back, and welcome to the show.
• 2:05:41
  Unknown: Well, hello. Thank you. Can you hear me? Am I coming too loud? And clear. Yeah. We can hear you. Hello, Chris.
• 2:05:49
  Unknown: To life. Eric.
• 2:05:51
  Hello, Eric. Call me anything you like as long as it's not too late for my dinner.
• 2:05:55
  Unknown: Everybody's got more... Everybody's got several names. I've only got the one at the moment. How many names have you got, Monica? Have got more than one, or is it just Monica? It's just Monica, isn't I have my first name, Monica, and I have my middle name, Ursula.
• 2:06:07
  Unknown: Oh that's named after a very bad person at the moment isn't it but never mind. Well there's a very bad one that I heard you talking about earlier. Yes. And then there's a very good one and that would be Ursula Haverbeck. She has
• 2:06:21
  has has passed away. She's no longer with us, but she was a very good Ursula. So it made me proud. Very,
• 2:06:27
  Unknown: very, very brave lady as well. Yes. Yes. Yeah.
• 2:06:31
  Unknown: We think you're... Are you all... You are cut from the latter one. You're cut from the same cloche as the latter one. One. Thank you. Yes. This Ursula Vanderlion,
• 2:06:38
  Unknown: she's downright evil, I would say.
• 2:06:42
  Unknown: Yes. She's... I actually pronounce her name assholer
• 2:06:46
  fond of lying.
• 2:06:48
  That's how it's to be pronounced, assholer fond of lying,
• 2:06:51
  which she is, she loves it. She lies and lies and lies and just grins and
• 2:06:56
  wonderful
• 2:06:57
  makeup of course, but then you need it when you're lying, I suppose, to put it all up. Yeah, absolutely.
• 2:07:02
  Unknown: I guess they do use a bit of makeup, don't they, when they're in those positions?
• 2:07:08
  Unknown: Sorry.
• 2:07:10
  Unknown: Carry on that morning. That's okay. Yeah. Her name came up in our
• 2:07:14
  news here today
• 2:07:16
  because Canada is
• 2:07:18
  cozying up to, you know, she had suggested a few weeks ago that Canada should become an associate
• 2:07:25
  member of the EU.
• 2:07:27
  Unknown: And then of course Yeah. Wonderful.
• 2:07:29
  Unknown: Mark. Yeah. Mark Carnage.
• 2:07:32
  Mark Carnage. I mean, Mark Carney, he he thought that was wonderful idea and he's been over to Europe quite a lot and, you know, negotiating. Now they're saying, well, maybe not associate member but something. But, you know, I think they just wanna have another route and channel to send over
• 2:07:46
  all those excess
• 2:07:49
  invaders.
• 2:07:51
  That's what I'm thinking.
• 2:07:52
  They talk about exchanging
• 2:07:54
  the
• 2:07:57
  skilled workers and all this stuff.
• 2:08:00
  Excuse me, that's not what they have in mind.
• 2:08:04
  Anyway...
• 2:08:05
  Unknown: They've always got to dress it up though to make it look smart. They always
• 2:08:09
  Unknown: dress these things up. Yeah. So you were gonna say something and I cut you off rudely.
• 2:08:13
  Unknown: Well, that EU woman, that's just
• 2:08:16
  a... I was gonna say is if if I had a dog that had a face like hers, I'd shove its backside and try to walk backwards.
• 2:08:24
  You had a...
• 2:08:28
  Unknown: You've lowered the tone, thankfully.
• 2:08:30
  Unknown: Me? Lower the tone? Never.
• 2:08:33
  I've never lowered the tone.
• 2:08:35
  Unknown: I had to think about that one for a moment. Yeah.
• 2:08:39
  Unknown: But...
• 2:08:40
  No. I I think these people are pure evil. There's no ifs, no buts about it. They are evil.
• 2:08:47
  Yeah.
• 2:08:48
  What can we do about them? The
• 2:08:51
  only problem is government
• 2:08:54
  attracts them, like bees around a honey pot.
• 2:08:57
  Unknown: Well, people only get into those positions if they already
• 2:09:01
  are evil because
• 2:09:03
  that's the face of the hidden hand, is it not?
• 2:09:07
  Unknown: Correct. It is. Yes. Yeah. Is. Yeah. Mark Carnage is mentioned quite a bit in Liz Truss's book in the early parts of it, the bit that I've read so far because, you know, he used to be the governor of the Bank of England, which means he's an honorable sort. Oh, He hasn't got a hasn't got a secret agenda and isn't working for other people. It means he's completely, you know, brilliant. And
• 2:09:27
  no, he's he's a repellent
• 2:09:29
  little turd, isn't he, Carney? But then you could say that about all of them. In fact, I do every day.
• 2:09:35
  But,
• 2:09:37
  yeah, he's not he's not a good egg. He's not a boner. Well, you know, maybe you could join the EU. I mean, he's got a lot going for it. It's disintegrating. Disintegrating. All its borders are open. It's run by demons.
• 2:09:47
  So why not? You know? What have you got to lose? Oh, everything, probably. Precisely.
• 2:09:52
  Unknown: Mhmm. You you pretty much summed it up there. You know?
• 2:09:56
  I'd
• 2:09:57
  love to know
• 2:09:59
  his,
• 2:10:01
  life story
• 2:10:03
  from when he was the little Rugrat that I was in his home many times. I've told you that story, I'm quite sure. I'd
• 2:10:11
  love to know
• 2:10:12
  where and when he went off the rails into,
• 2:10:16
  you know, down the the very evil path, really.
• 2:10:20
  Unknown: Really? He came to London.
• 2:10:22
  Did he did he study at the London School of Economics? I don't know if he did. If he did, that's basically one of their big sort of stink tanks
• 2:10:30
  where they program them into com... In socialistic economic policies, I e rob the peasants.
• 2:10:36
  Unknown: Yeah. Did. Yeah. He he studied at London School of Economics, Pierre Trudeau.
• 2:10:41
  Oh, that's why he sell that's why he sell Canada down the drain.
• 2:10:44
  And...
• 2:10:47
  Unknown: Well, the banks... He did everything for the banks, didn't he? That's Pierre Trudeau. It gives me an idea, Eric and Monic. Maybe we should set up something like the Totteness School of Banking,
• 2:10:57
  some little sort of urban area of England, the Biggleswade.
• 2:11:01
  The Biggleswade School of Banking, where we teach completely
• 2:11:05
  honorable engineering policies about what why everything is completely
• 2:11:09
  asked about tit.
• 2:11:11
  Yes. What about Fockem?
• 2:11:14
  Yeah. The Fockem School of Banking. Yeah. I'd go. I'd go. Yeah.
• 2:11:19
  Absolutely. Monica could come in. You could be a special lecturer every now and again Yes.
• 2:11:24
  On the impacts of bad banking policies across Germany in the nineteen thirties. You could... Yes. The nineteen forties, all that stuff. Yeah. We could just show it the whole of the history. Yes. The whole history of the foul nature of banking, the damage that it has wrought and is continuing to wreak today.
• 2:11:39
  So yeah, that would be good. Well, we haven't mentioned banking for at least ten minutes, so we thought we'd better mention it again. It is called the head of the snake, isn't it?
• 2:11:48
  Unknown: Referred to as the head of the snake.
• 2:11:51
  This
• 2:11:52
  banking system which is based so utterly on
• 2:11:57
  such a fraudulent
• 2:11:59
  idea and concept. You know,
• 2:12:01
  I may have shared this with you before but
• 2:12:04
  when we were in grade school, when I was in grade school, I remember
• 2:12:08
  quite distinctly
• 2:12:10
  when we were learning about money,
• 2:12:12
  the very
• 2:12:13
  notion, the very concept of money.
• 2:12:16
  And the teacher
• 2:12:18
  really was quite good, know, sort of
• 2:12:22
  putting it in nice
• 2:12:25
  metaphorical
• 2:12:26
  terms like, you know, you might start out trading
• 2:12:30
  shells
• 2:12:31
  for goods because it was more convenient to trade a shell for a good and just went through the whole thing. But then it came to the part about interest
• 2:12:40
  And even at that young and tender age,
• 2:12:45
  I could not wrap my head around
• 2:12:48
  debt.
• 2:12:49
  Debt, you know, and then Mhmm. Paying
• 2:12:53
  back your debt
• 2:12:54
  with interest.
• 2:12:55
  And I just kept wanting to ask, well, how will they ever
• 2:13:01
  repay?
• 2:13:02
  Where do they get this extra money from?
• 2:13:05
  It doesn't add up. The math
• 2:13:08
  does not add up. I always just thought it's never a zero
• 2:13:11
  sum game. Like, it's never gonna add up to zero. You can't square it away because there's this thing called interest that they explained.
• 2:13:19
  Yes. And I just... I mean, I was just this young tender mind.
• 2:13:23
  And I'm not saying I was brilliant. Not at all. It's just simple. It's simple math that it's never gonna add up to zero. You can't ever Well well, Monica, I think you do yourself a disservice. In comparison to the professors at the London School of Economics, you are a genius.
• 2:13:39
  Well, know, I mean, it's just like anybody can see that it doesn't add up, but that's the the game of it, the trick of it, isn't it? And somehow then we grow up in this world where, oh, it's just normal, and then we just think, that's just the way it is. It's just normal.
• 2:13:54
  Mhmm. And then we kind of just fog up our brains thinking, that's just the way it is. It's just the way it is.
• 2:14:02
  Unknown: Yeah. Absolutely. Have Yeah. Been We've
• 2:14:05
  been memed on money, we're in a state of mild to extreme hypnosis with it. Yes. People are literally hypnotized by it, and I think it taps into everybody's natural
• 2:14:18
  desire to get on in life and to acquire more purchasing power under the current system, and that's part of the problem. We've been turned into addicts of something
• 2:14:28
  where we always need a bigger supply of it next year to get the same hit because of interest. They're
• 2:14:34
  drug pushers. The the the, you know, currency, we don't use money, of course, we use currency, which they make up, is like
• 2:14:42
  is like a drug substitute,
• 2:14:44
  and it's far more deadly
• 2:14:46
  than the real thing. Money, of course, is of generally a finite supply or used to be, and of course, there's all these arguments, oh, we can't possibly use gold or silver. Well, we could actually, but there's no desire to do it By the intermediate... It's the intermediaries that are always the problem, the regulators.
• 2:15:03
  Unknown: Who are you guys? Could say the people are gonna look after you. Really? Oh, okay. Yeah. I mean, you could say it's it's like a drug habit, but the reality is that we've
• 2:15:13
  basically been
• 2:15:14
  pulled into the system where
• 2:15:17
  we need money to
• 2:15:20
  do what we're doing. So if you want to buy a house, well you need money. If you want to
• 2:15:26
  just any exchange you make, want to buy a car, you want to
• 2:15:30
  travel, whatever you're doing,
• 2:15:33
  we are
• 2:15:35
  in this system. I mean yes, more and more we're
• 2:15:39
  encouraging
• 2:15:40
  each other to
• 2:15:41
  separate ourselves from the system and make a parallel
• 2:15:45
  economy
• 2:15:47
  like trade and barter and
• 2:15:51
  know your own
• 2:15:52
  neighbors and
• 2:15:54
  trade services if not goods as well, know, and everything like that. We're trying to do that and I think many people are doing that. But yeah, we kind of got pulled into it, didn't we?
• 2:16:06
  And
• 2:16:08
  yeah, I don't know, guess it's different than drug addiction in that sense, I think. It's subtle, it's subtle and it's bound in with
• 2:16:16
  Unknown: your physical well-being.
• 2:16:19
  You have to buy food, you have to buy shelter, you have to buy clothing.
• 2:16:23
  Fundamentally, there's nothing really wrong with it, it's to do with the actual system that we've been burdened with. There's everything wrong with that.
• 2:16:32
  I mean, you gotta use... I... I'm assuming with the amount of people on the earth, you need a medium of exchange. Although,
• 2:16:38
  you know, as Elon Musk,
• 2:16:40
  an ambivalent figure at the best of times,
• 2:16:44
  has said,
• 2:16:45
  he can see a a sort of situation arising where you wouldn't even need money. Now this on one level, you go, oh, well, that might be quite fun.
• 2:16:52
  But then there's a system of supply...
• 2:16:55
  Supplying you with what you need,
• 2:16:57
  And if you've said something politically naughty, and not that you ever have, Monica, I I think you Oh, no. Clean Ever. Clean as a whistle. Very politically correct we are around here. So we're alright, everybody here. But if you have and it's on it's on your data record,
• 2:17:11
  you know, well, you can't have any cauliflowers for a month. You said that naughty thing and upset
• 2:17:15
  that that civil servant or something like that. I mean, literally, that's the danger of the whole thing. It's like micro managing
• 2:17:22
  every little second of your life. This is what they're pushing towards. Mean, then there won't be... That won't be enough. It's never enough. They can't have enough control
• 2:17:32
  because that's that's their currency. That's the buzz. That's their drug
• 2:17:36
  is being in charge, isn't it? And this is how they maintain it to to a great degree. Well, they are trying desperately to control our every move and you're right about this move towards,
• 2:17:49
  Unknown: no money, but that's their
• 2:17:52
  version of no money is not anything like our version of no money that I just described by trading and bartering and all that, right? Nothing. No.
• 2:18:03
  Like you say, they could turn you on or off at at a whim. And if you've been misbehaving, Paul,
• 2:18:10
  beware.
• 2:18:11
  Unknown: I did once. I did once. Never again. I learned my lesson. I I I said some hurted words once, and I will never do it again because I I don't want to upset people. I'm quite happy to just go along with all the general lies, Monica, as we all are here,
• 2:18:25
  just to keep everybody happy. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the fact that civilization's gonna go up in a ball of smoke
• 2:18:31
  on flames or whatever is... That's just a side effect. Yeah. That's not important at all, you know? So...
• 2:18:39
  Unknown: Anyway, you know, when you reminded me of the show as always very politely, you know, the day before or or whatever... I am quite polite, aren't I? It it was very good. Yes. See,
• 2:18:50
  no hurty words there.
• 2:18:52
  No hurty words. It was good that you pointed out that the time changed
• 2:18:57
  and I just want to talk about that for a moment, if I may. Yes. Just
• 2:19:03
  to make reference to what I wrote to you briefly in the message there,
• 2:19:10
  how starting next week there's going to be a lot of confusion going on
• 2:19:15
  because
• 2:19:16
  there are some jurisdictions,
• 2:19:18
  mine included here in British Columbia, Canada. Alberta did it too and I'm not sure which other provinces of Canada and I don't know if any of the states did this in their jurisdictions, but they
• 2:19:29
  announced
• 2:19:30
  last spring,
• 2:19:32
  just after we sprang forward,
• 2:19:35
  they announced,
• 2:19:37
  yippee, we're never gonna change the clocks again. Now Really?
• 2:19:41
  People have been...
• 2:19:42
  Okay. Don't get too excited. People have been clamoring for that for years and years and years and years and years. As long as I can remember, people have been clamoring for stop this nonsense of changing the clocks twice a year. However,
• 2:19:57
  I certainly have not been clamoring for leaving it on the so called daylight savings time
• 2:20:04
  that... And that's what they've done. So Oh, no. We... Yeah. It is the
• 2:20:09
  stupidest thing ever, but I think it's another one of those things I hate to say, but I think it's another one of those things where they are
• 2:20:17
  attacking us on all levels including our health and people will see, they will find out. Like for me personally, it doesn't really matter because I don't live by the alarm clock. I'm not going to a nine to five job. I basically
• 2:20:31
  live with,
• 2:20:32
  you know, the the the... My internal clock and my activities and, you know, try to go to bed at a reasonable hour and then wake up when I wake up. But, however, people who have to set their alarm clock to either go to school or go to work or whatever and in the winter here in northern latitudes and you are also at quite northern latitudes,
• 2:20:54
  the people are gonna find out this is very, very unhealthy.
• 2:20:59
  It just so goes against the circadian rhythm
• 2:21:03
  of how our bodies work. There's a reason why Standard
• 2:21:08
  Time is called Standard Time.
• 2:21:11
  I think the the whole daylight savings shift has been nutty anyway.
• 2:21:16
  And now that they wanna stay on their daylight savings time... And then you watch. Some jurisdictions
• 2:21:21
  are gonna put the clocks back, which they they have for years and years and years, and others are not. So then how do we...
• 2:21:29
  That's going to cause a lot of confusion with scheduling when people are scheduling things that involve other
• 2:21:35
  time zones or other
• 2:21:37
  Unknown: areas, other jurisdictions. It's going to be I know there's gonna be a lot of confusion. It's just nutty. So are are your clocks going back? Are you... Where you live? Are yours going back? They're not. So we
• 2:21:48
  we ask... We're we're currently seven hours ahead of you, and we're gonna stay like that. Are we right through to when we change our clocks forward in the spring of next year? Yes. Is that what's gonna happen? Correct. Wow. So I think that what's gonna have to happen with Super mad. It's just getting madder. It's just hilariously insane.
• 2:22:08
  Unknown: It is. And so I think what will have to happen
• 2:22:12
  for the sake of clarity for people to figure out what time does something happen, if it's in a different jurisdiction,
• 2:22:21
  they will just have to call their own
• 2:22:24
  time zone
• 2:22:26
  differently. Like for example,
• 2:22:28
  I will no longer be in Pacific time zone. I am now in the Mountain Standard Time. Okay, so Mountain Standard Time. That's the only way I can figure out how to...
• 2:22:40
  How this is gonna work, how everybody's gonna figure out, like if I'm talking to somebody... Is is that the Mountain Standard Time that the Americans have? Is it the same? Well, I I used to live in Alberta and I was in Mountain Standard Time.
• 2:22:53
  When I moved to British Columbia,
• 2:22:55
  I moved into the Pacific
• 2:22:57
  Time Zone.
• 2:22:59
  So I'm very familiar with Mountain Standard Time. It's not just in the state. It goes all up. It's north and south, right? So
• 2:23:07
  yeah, that's how it's going to be. Mean,
• 2:23:09
  don't know. I'm kind of rubbing my hands in glee to see how
• 2:23:14
  the
• 2:23:15
  confusion is going to unfold because the more confusion in my mind, the better because I think that
• 2:23:21
  maybe
• 2:23:22
  the people will just say, Look, enough is enough. Just go back to standard time everywhere
• 2:23:27
  and stay on it. I
• 2:23:30
  Unknown: decide
• 2:23:31
  to drive on the same side of the road as us. We have to do buses and lorries on a Wednesday What a great idea. On Thursday
• 2:23:38
  so they could stagger it. So so they could do it gradually over appear. And you put that to the government, and they they would actually seriously consider it. You guys, I think that's quite a good idea, actually.
• 2:23:48
  Yeah. Because, you know, it won't happen all at once, and people can get used to it. You see? Oh, great idea. Yeah. Yeah. Trust trust you to come up with such a fine idea. Fine idea. Genius, Eric. Genius. I don't... You've been lost to the civil service. Think it's... It is a great loss. And do think of the employment it's gonna be changing the steering wheels over the other side of the car?
• 2:24:09
  Yeah. There we go.
• 2:24:11
  Unknown: So so what is the what is the name then, Monica, going to be of your time zone? Well, that's a good question. My
• 2:24:18
  Unknown: I will think of it so that I can figure out...
• 2:24:21
  Need to be able to So figure can we call it Monica time or something No. No. No. No. I'm just gonna... I'm gonna think of it as Mountain Standard Time.
• 2:24:29
  Okay. Because otherwise, I can't calculate like what time is my own show going to happen, right? Because
• 2:24:36
  they're on Central Time.
• 2:24:39
  So then I will know that I am just one hour off of Central Time.
• 2:24:43
  Whereas
• 2:24:45
  here up
• 2:24:46
  to now I've been two hours off of central time.
• 2:24:49
  You know, that kind of thing. Have to just figure it out. Is everybody going to be able to figure it out when they
• 2:24:55
  book something?
• 2:24:56
  Unknown: Maybe watchmakers
• 2:24:58
  can design new watches with all these different time zones on them. We'll have to synchronize watches, chaps, and all that kind of stuff. I mean, this sounds to me like an intentional clock up. Yes. To... You know, that's exactly what it is. It's a total intentional clock up to
• 2:25:13
  mess everybody around. It's ridiculous. I mean, the the...
• 2:25:16
  I don't like it that we do it anyway, and we did drone on about it last week, I think. But Oh, did you? Even now... Yeah. Well, in The US, they're gonna do it this weekend, and we did it last weekend. I'm thinking, look. In the Northern Hemisphere, if we're gonna do this sort of nonsense, can't we do it all on the same Saturday? Oh, no. That'd be far too convenient. Everybody would have work everything out. Canada used to do it, I think, probably the same weekend that Europe switched,
• 2:25:39
  Unknown: and that would be before Halloween. I know that. It used to be before And
• 2:25:44
  now it's after Halloween, and like you say, that's this weekend because we had to harmonize, you know. We had to harmonize with The United States. Well, what happened to their harmony now
• 2:25:53
  when some provinces are
• 2:25:55
  not not going back to standard time at all and some are? And then, of course, you have Saskatchewan who... They're the smartest ones. They never ever did change at all. They've always stayed on standard
• 2:26:07
  time.
• 2:26:08
  At Saskatchewan,
• 2:26:09
  wonderful
• 2:26:11
  Prairie Province
• 2:26:12
  just East of Alberta.
• 2:26:14
  Unknown: They're farmers primarily and they're smart, you know. They they get up to milk their cows whether the clock When the sun comes up, they operate by the actual rhythms of the planet and the earth. How incredibly intelligent and commonsensical.
• 2:26:27
  No wonder they're not getting on in the world. I mean, it's terrible. They're not mad enough to actually sort of integrate with everybody else.
• 2:26:33
  That's just I'm I'm quite partial to systems. Wars then. We're gonna move into time wars. Everybody's just gonna be... They're gonna be the clock wars.
• 2:26:42
  And people are gonna be arguing. Fockem
• 2:26:45
  Unknown: time is one hour ahead
• 2:26:46
  of our standard time. Because I keep it summertime all year round.
• 2:26:51
  Unknown: So is it is it called is it called standard Fokkem time? What's it actually called? Has it got enough... Yeah. Standard Fokkem time, you know, and if people don't like it, they can
• 2:27:01
  Unknown: go away.
• 2:27:02
  Yes.
• 2:27:05
  Unknown: I think we should all I think we should all have our own individual time zones, and it's up to everybody else to coordinate with you. No. I'm actually running... I mean, you know, over here, Monica, before the... When the railways came in, when they first started building the railways, all the time was different in all different parts of the country
• 2:27:23
  Okay. By minutes. And so all the trained the train timetables were absolute mayhem. They were like encyclopedias
• 2:27:29
  because they had to take into account, for example, if you're going down to Cornwall, they were running six minutes later than everybody else. Oh, wow.
• 2:27:37
  And this is why they came up with somebody invented...
• 2:27:41
  I think it was the use of the telegraph or something. They they found that they could send signals through to everybody.
• 2:27:46
  And because the railway system was expanding at such a rate, people needed to know what time it was when they arrived at places. It's kind of useful, you know, if you're going to appointments and things. I guess so. Yes. I mean, I guess Maybe we should just get rid of them altogether. Just get rid of timepieces and stop measuring time because it didn't exist anyway, really. It's a little bit weird.
• 2:28:06
  Unknown: This is rather foolish suggestion. Not expecting it to be implemented. You and I are talking now just because I knew what time to come on, but I know you're just being facetious, but
• 2:28:16
  Unknown: it just You're more than a match for me, Monica.
• 2:28:20
  Unknown: Alright.
• 2:28:22
  And I can't help it, Eric. I have to laugh my head off every time you talk about fuck them time or or fuck them at all.
• 2:28:29
  Unknown: What's the fuck them time? What's time? There's nothing to swear.
• 2:28:33
  It's
• 2:28:35
  the most vulgar time zone in the world. What's the fuck them time? What do you say?
• 2:28:42
  Is that... And on the other one would be, is that the fucking time?
• 2:28:46
  Unknown: Yeah. We are we are so so going downhill. I'm
• 2:28:50
  Unknown: still not sure about that. We like to go, Monica. We like to really get down there into the dark. This is what we like. Yeah. Sorry. What did you say, Eric? I didn't hear what you said. I'm still working out a passport that we can all have you see,
• 2:29:02
  Unknown: where you can have, you know, that usual photograph. Well, on our one, it can be unusual photograph and things like that.
• 2:29:08
  And
• 2:29:09
  fucking passport, I'm hoping to, you know, be able to download it from the website when I get it up and running again.
• 2:29:18
  Unknown: There we go. Good.
• 2:29:21
  Unknown: It'd be it'd be interesting to hear what people say. They went back to the house Friday. They say, oh, I've got my fucking passport. Here it is.
• 2:29:31
  Unknown: Let me... Shocked looks all around.
• 2:29:35
  So
• 2:29:36
  I just got a letter yesterday
• 2:29:38
  from my brother, and I hadn't gotten a letter in a long time, so I was delighted to get this letter. It actually came to me in record speed.
• 2:29:46
  Really seriously, this is like almost record speed that a letter
• 2:29:51
  came from him to me in fifteen days.
• 2:29:55
  Okay. And so... Because it... Over the winter,
• 2:29:59
  he got very...
• 2:30:01
  It it dampened his letter writing enthusiasm
• 2:30:04
  because letters were taking three months one way, that kind of thing. So, anyway, he tells me a little story about
• 2:30:14
  something that made him just, you know, cry with joy. Like a few other stories that have happened to him in jail make him just Mhmm. Be very joyful. Like there was the Raven and Stork story a number of years back.
• 2:30:27
  But this one was about a bat.
• 2:30:29
  Do you want me to share the little bat stories? I like bat stories, particularly if they're coming from Alfred. Yeah. Please do. Yeah. And, you know, I mean, people... You have to think about the fact that this man is sitting in a jail cell,
• 2:30:43
  and I only was in a jail cell for ten months, and I can tell you that there is
• 2:30:50
  a serious
• 2:30:51
  deprivation
• 2:30:53
  of
• 2:30:54
  color
• 2:30:55
  and... So your senses... Like, there's a sensory deprivation sitting in a gray
• 2:31:01
  jail cell and people wearing their their... I don't even remember if it was gray or brown, whatever the prison clothes is. And just there's a lot of, you know, it's just square walls.
• 2:31:12
  Okay. You get out in the courtyard once a day for sixty minutes, and there's a a few trees. There were seven trees in my courtyard and a little patch of grass and this kind of thing. So there's a little little bit of
• 2:31:23
  sensory...
• 2:31:25
  Unknown: Couldn't you wear your own clothes? Do you have to wear prison clothes? I could have applied to do so because I wasn't yet
• 2:31:32
  Unknown: convicted.
• 2:31:33
  I was on remand, but I didn't care. Like, I just wore their clothes and
• 2:31:39
  put it, you know, put it to their laundry and
• 2:31:42
  didn't worry about it. We're we're able to buy
• 2:31:46
  items,
• 2:31:47
  so I bought a a t shirt. I bought an orange t shirt.
• 2:31:52
  Just... I I just wanted something vibrant and colorful. And then later when I was wearing that out... On the outside, somebody said...
• 2:31:59
  When I told them, yeah, bought this when I was in prison, said, what? You bought orange? Because I guess orange is associated with prison
• 2:32:05
  garb,
• 2:32:06
  but not in Germany. It isn't. I I just kinda thought that was very funny. And now in Canada, I would never choose to buy an orange shirt because they've got theirs... You know, the the natives here have their orange shirt day
• 2:32:20
  and their orange shirt day about every child matters, but really it's all based on their grifting lies and whatnot.
• 2:32:26
  Mhmm. And so I I would never wear an orange shirt on their orange shirt day.
• 2:32:31
  Then they have their red dress day. Like, it's really getting hard to clothe oneself these days and not be
• 2:32:36
  kowtowing to one of the... One or another of these movements that they have. Yeah. Is there any color that we could wear that is not attached to any of these movements? I can't... That's the problem. That's the problem. I don't know. The... All the the political parties, they all have a color that they've claimed, but I don't know. I I like colorful stuff, so I shouldn't worry about it at all. But just
• 2:32:59
  making a side comment here about the the sensory
• 2:33:04
  deprivation that happens. And so here's Alfred,
• 2:33:07
  been in prison already for over five and a half years, not all in one go. This was in four different, you know, jail stints that he's done,
• 2:33:17
  and now he's got seven years ahead of him.
• 2:33:20
  And
• 2:33:23
  so... Okay. When something happens, this story might not seem like a big thing to somebody on the outside. Okay. It's just a little bat.
• 2:33:31
  But
• 2:33:32
  for... This is why I gave you this little prelude about sensory deprivation
• 2:33:37
  and having something like this happen. It's it's big. It's huge. So I'll just read you this part about what happened here.
• 2:33:45
  Okay.
• 2:33:46
  Today,
• 2:33:48
  our guardian angels gave me a wink and a nod that we are on the right track.
• 2:33:53
  A bit like the raven and storks story that happened to be in November 2020 in Landsberg that had me cry with joy as did the truckers in Canada when they saw the support of the people as they crossed Canada
• 2:34:06
  to protest the bioweapon
• 2:34:08
  injection of the Canadian
• 2:34:10
  peoples, the corona,
• 2:34:12
  in quotation marks, hoax.
• 2:34:15
  So what happened? Three days ago,
• 2:34:17
  I found a bat between my window that can be opened and the tight meshed metal barrier to the outside.
• 2:34:24
  I didn't want to hurt it and also didn't want it to come into my cell because he wouldn't find his way out again.
• 2:34:32
  But how did he get in in the first place?
• 2:34:35
  Well, on the top and bottom of the tight meshed barrier
• 2:34:39
  is a small slit where he must have crawled through for the night to sleep.
• 2:34:44
  After hoping that he would crawl back out,
• 2:34:47
  but he did not,
• 2:34:48
  I decided to catch him and bring him out at the Hofgang, that would be the courtyard hour, because he needs to eat and prison is not for him.
• 2:34:59
  People laughed at that. Prison is not for him.
• 2:35:03
  My cell is on the top, the 5th Floor
• 2:35:06
  under the roof, which was hell this summer in the heat.
• 2:35:10
  These conditions reflect our world today worse than ever.
• 2:35:15
  She's going on a little bit of a
• 2:35:18
  sidebar here.
• 2:35:19
  Bernal and my tailor job was a dream compared to this. But, Monica, this bat,
• 2:35:26
  when I carefully put him in a little plastic container and he licked his nose and moved about,
• 2:35:32
  I had
• 2:35:34
  no idea how he would cope when I brought him outside.
• 2:35:38
  I wanted to put him in a little hedge in the prison yard,
• 2:35:42
  but then he just opened his wings and he flew off to the next tree.
• 2:35:46
  The prisoners couldn't believe it. It was a sensation.
• 2:35:50
  They couldn't believe I had a bat in my cell. Never seen that before.
• 2:35:56
  So that's
• 2:35:57
  Unknown: the little bat story that he Oh, that's that's fantastic. That's got echoes of all sorts of little moments, but all that wonderful life here. You ever seen the Birdman of Alcatraz?
• 2:36:07
  It's quite... Yeah. Alphra's gonna be the Batman of of of
• 2:36:11
  of wherever he is. Hope... Maybe he will be.
• 2:36:15
  Is it true, Monica, is the German for bat, Fleidermaus?
• 2:36:19
  Unknown: Yes. It is.
• 2:36:21
  Yes. That is exactly right. Right. So Fleidermaus,
• 2:36:24
  Fleidermaus,
• 2:36:26
  Unknown: I guess, is the word. And what's the German for man?
• 2:36:29
  Unknown: Man?
• 2:36:30
  Yeah. Like man. As in man.
• 2:36:33
  Unknown: Man. So in German, it's not Batman, it's Fleidemaus man.
• 2:36:39
  Is that right? Maybe you could say. It seems to sort of lose something in the translation, but I quite like it. Yeah. I also...
• 2:36:45
  Yeah. Superman and Fledermaus man. I quite like that. Sorry.
• 2:36:50
  Unknown: I'm being a bit childish there. I like it. It's a lovely story though from Alfred. It really is. It's great. No. It's just moving, isn't it? Do you remember the stork story? Shall I tell that one? Yeah. Tell stories. I'm on for stories. This is great. I'll just tell it from my memory and I I did have it published on my website but my website is down at the moment.
• 2:37:10
  I'm really, really hoping that we can resurrect it and then some of these very important stories I can put back. I'm talking about the freespeechmonica.com
• 2:37:20
  website.
• 2:37:21
  It's been down for about a month and a half now.
• 2:37:24
  Anyway,
• 2:37:27
  I'll just tell the story by memory. So Alfred was already on
• 2:37:33
  solitary
• 2:37:35
  confinement because of his resistance to the masks.
• 2:37:39
  Okay, so this was during
• 2:37:41
  mask mania
• 2:37:42
  and
• 2:37:44
  his courtyard hour was quite early in the morning and it was winter
• 2:37:48
  so it
• 2:37:49
  was just
• 2:37:51
  starting to get light. It was quite dark when he started his courtyard hour. The reason it was so early in the morning, I mean, they don't have enough hours in the day to give everybody their own hour but they'll try to spread out people in solitary confinement. They'll try to give them
• 2:38:06
  different hours.
• 2:38:08
  Sometimes he was sharing with one or two other prisoners, that kind of thing. Anyway, getting sidetracked here.
• 2:38:14
  So
• 2:38:15
  he used to have these two best friends when he was in a certain cell
• 2:38:20
  in the prison there
• 2:38:22
  and they were these two storks. They had a nest on top of a old
• 2:38:28
  defunct chimney or something like that. And from his cell,
• 2:38:32
  he could watch these storks and he would watch them for hours and hours and hours. And who knows? Maybe they peered into his window as... And saw him there. And he just felt like these was... These were his two best friends. It was this stork pair. Then he got moved to a different cell
• 2:38:48
  when this whole mask stuff went on and he was very, very sad to be out of sight of his stork friends.
• 2:38:58
  Okay. So then number of months went by. He was in this hour just at dawn
• 2:39:05
  and
• 2:39:06
  it it was walking around by himself just getting his exercise.
• 2:39:10
  And there were suddenly... Well, not suddenly, but it's like more and more... I think it was crows. Let me just see what he says here. The the ravens
• 2:39:20
  and...
• 2:39:21
  Was it crows?
• 2:39:23
  The raven and store... Sorry. It was a bunch of ravens. Okay. Oh, the sky
• 2:39:29
  blackened
• 2:39:30
  with ravens,
• 2:39:32
  and there were more and more of them, and they were just making a cacophony of sound.
• 2:39:37
  And it was freaking him out actually because
• 2:39:40
  it it
• 2:39:41
  gave gave him visions of
• 2:39:43
  Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds
• 2:39:46
  kind of a horror horror story.
• 2:39:48
  And there he was, you know, just in this
• 2:39:51
  it was
• 2:39:52
  surreal.
• 2:39:53
  It... The sky literally was just full of these ravens
• 2:39:58
  just making a a heck of a loud sound.
• 2:40:01
  And then
• 2:40:04
  suddenly
• 2:40:05
  these two storks
• 2:40:07
  came or I don't... I I need to reread the story but my memory of it is that they
• 2:40:13
  appeared
• 2:40:14
  and the ravens
• 2:40:16
  all disappeared
• 2:40:19
  and what was left was the two storks at his friends.
• 2:40:24
  And he just felt, like, euphoric.
• 2:40:26
  He just was over the roof because he felt like his friends
• 2:40:31
  had somehow
• 2:40:32
  caused and, you know, chased away these these ravens who were making such a frightening
• 2:40:40
  spectacle in the sky. So
• 2:40:43
  that was quite a story. It really impacted him quite deeply. Felt like those were his guardian angels there.
• 2:40:49
  Know, he just felt like there was something more to it than just
• 2:40:53
  a simple animal story.
• 2:40:56
  Yeah. Well ravens are spectacular creatures, know. They're really incredibly bright. Corvids, aren't they? They're of the Corvid family. Well, very bright, but it was a frightening scene. I had a feeling it was crows, but in this letter he said a bit like the raven and stork story. But
• 2:41:14
  at the time...
• 2:41:15
  I don't know. Mean, you know,
• 2:41:18
  I'd have to read his letter from 2020
• 2:41:21
  to see if he said crows or ravens.
• 2:41:24
  And it might be...
• 2:41:25
  Well, in German the words are and
• 2:41:29
  so regardless
• 2:41:31
  they're both black birds
• 2:41:33
  Unknown: can make Can you tell the difference? I can't Is tell the
• 2:41:38
  Unknown: a raven bigger than a crow? Yes, definitely. Thought it was. I have been able to tell them apart. I don't know if I could at this moment. It's one of those things I always have to remind myself how to tell them apart.
• 2:41:49
  Their tail shape is a little bit different, and the ravens are definitely bigger.
• 2:41:54
  Unknown: Yeah. Yeah. So... They're very bright. They're very bright, and they've got... Yeah. They are smart. They're
• 2:41:59
  very, very smart. Their brains are built differently to us, so they can't figure out how they're so bright, but they really are. So you've got ravens, rooks, crows, and jack daws. Jackdaws a lovely word, isn't it? I love that. Well, we've got those four. I don't know of any other in the... They're known as corpses. Yeah. There's there's a few more.
• 2:42:18
  Unknown: We've got magpies.
• 2:42:20
  Unknown: They're in the Are
• 2:42:22
  they? Okay. Right. I believe they are. Maybe somebody will correct me. A birder will perhaps correct me. Ornithology time, by the way, here on Paul English Live. Yeah. It's great, though. I'm enjoying it.
• 2:42:35
  Well, reminds me of this. I'm not gonna read all of it. Once upon a midnight dreary,
• 2:42:40
  while I pondered weak and weary,
• 2:42:42
  over many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten law,
• 2:42:45
  while I nodded nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping as of someone gently wrapping wrapping at my chamber door.
• 2:42:53
  'Tis some visitor, I muttered, tapping at my chamber door.
• 2:42:57
  Only this and nothing more. Now what is that the opening stanza from? What poem is that the opening stanza from?
• 2:43:05
  Anybody?
• 2:43:06
  Free Fockham Hall pencil to anybody who gets it right? No, that's the foggiest idea.
• 2:43:11
  No, I'm just you don't know. I
• 2:43:14
  think I've recorded reading this about 20 times,
• 2:43:18
  I absolutely love this yeah yeah. Howard let me see if I get to the bit that will tell you what it is, let me just
• 2:43:26
  it jumps on a bit. It goes, open here I flung the shutter, when
• 2:43:31
  with many a flirt and a flutter, in their stepped a stately raven
• 2:43:36
  of the saintly days of yore,
• 2:43:38
  Not the least obeisance made he, not a minute stopped or stayed he, But with Mian of lord or lady, Perched above my chamber door, Perched upon a bust of palace,
• 2:43:49
  just above my chamber door, Perched and sat
• 2:43:53
  and nothing more.
• 2:43:55
  Still no idea what it's called?
• 2:43:58
  And you're asking the wrong person here. I know, but it's good though, isn't it? I'm teasing you like mad.
• 2:44:02
  Actually Edgar Allan Poe. Oh wonderful.
• 2:44:05
  Edgar Allan Poe, and it's Eddies is called simply the raven.
• 2:44:10
  Unknown: Oh.
• 2:44:11
  Unknown: It's absolutely fabulous. It's fabulous poem.
• 2:44:15
  It's a fabulous poem. I'm gonna read one more line. This is the second thing, I'm humping around, but this is the second stanza. He goes, I look this one. He says, ah, distinctly I remember it was in the bleak December,
• 2:44:26
  and each separate dying ember wrought its ghost upon the floor. Isn't that such a wonderful line? Is. Eagerly I wished the morrow. Vainly, I had sought to borrow from my books a cease of sorrow.
• 2:44:39
  Sorrow for the lost Lenore, for the rare and radiant maiden whom the angels named Lenore,
• 2:44:45
  nameless here
• 2:44:47
  forevermore.
• 2:44:48
  It's hauntingly brilliant poem, it's just gorgeous.
• 2:44:52
  I absolutely love it. Yeah, but that line and each separate dying ember wrought its ghost upon the floor. It's just
• 2:45:01
  I like poetry. You
• 2:45:03
  Unknown: are a very good narrator of these, have
• 2:45:07
  the right
• 2:45:08
  Unknown: voice and you know, you do all... Well we do, well maybe we'll have poetry sections, although this one lasts when it's fully read, it's about fifteen to twenty minutes, which might dry everybody potty. But if you haven't read it, everybody, go and read it. Just... You can find it anywhere online. The Raven by Edgar Allan Poe. And Poe's an amazing character. He had a really rough life. God, but he didn't live that long. He really did. But I mean, he invented the he invented the crime detective story.
• 2:45:34
  He's the first one ever to do that. Murders in the Morgue. Yeah. Murders in the Rue Morgue. He wrote that. He also
• 2:45:41
  cracked all the US army's
• 2:45:44
  ciphers and codes, and they were appalled, but he cracked all of them. He was that bright.
• 2:45:50
  So yeah, an amazing character. Very strange looking guy when you see photographs of me. It's sort of like he's got this sharp little chin, and then his cranium just gets wider and wider as you go up to his head, and he he did have a very...
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  It's almost like a Dickensian sorrowful life. He he he was sorted, and Lenore is the love of this. He's haunted by the the absence of Lenore, who's no longer alive through this poem, and the raven comes to sort of symbolize all this stuff, and the raven's amazing. I I could listen to you reading more poetry. I think that's that's wonderful.
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  Unknown: He quotes me 40. He didn't live very long, did he? No. Years of age.
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  Unknown: No he didn't. One more... I'll give you one more verse, then we move on. This is the third verse, he says this, and the silken sad uncertain rustling of each purple curtain thrilled me,
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  filled me with fantastic terrors never felt before,
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  so that now to still the beating of my heart,
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  I stood repeating
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  to some visitor entreating entrance at my chamber door, some late visitor
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  entreating entrance at my chamber door. This it is and nothing more.
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  And he goes on, he's he's he's... This raven's
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  bombing me. It's fantastic.
• 2:47:03
  I absolutely love it. I love it. Yeah. It's just a delightful thing. What about go to a different world. In about ten minutes, you're in a different world, and then you come back to this one. It's that good. Well Yeah. What about a love letter that I once wrote? I sit at night, the firelight flickers.
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  Unknown: I think of you and your navy blue cardigan.
• 2:47:22
  I couldn't think anything to rhyme there. No.
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  Unknown: No. No. That's good. Well, it's not poem, but it's quite good. Yeah. I'm almost there, isn't it? I I I don't want to hurt your feelings. I know what poets... Sensitive poets are like, Eric. It wouldn't be right of me to do such a thing.
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  Unknown: Answers please on a postcard. See,
• 2:47:42
  so there we go.
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  And you don't want maverick prowls head rumbling blouse that rumbles through the night. You shook the bathrooms all around and gave the folks a fright. The doctor called. He was appalled, went through his stethoscope,
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  heard the sound of bang hounds,
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  and smelt the arduous smell of smoke.
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  Is there a cure? The higher, the fewer, the learned doctor said. Then turn poor maverick upside down and put him on his head. And so my friends, this is the end, a warning to the few.
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  Beware of doctors till the end, although get rid of you. That is by a fantastic poet called Spike Milligan.
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  You remember Spike Milligan?
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  Unknown: Remember Spike. No, I don't. That was good. Thank
• 2:48:26
  Unknown: you.
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  Bit disgusting, I know.
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  No, actually, learned that when I was a kid. I've never forgotten it. I read
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  his book, I just remembered that poem. I don't know why, and it stuck.
• 2:48:40
  So boring
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  little Watsuit after a while.
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  Unknown: Think I think poetry needs to be brought back in a big way. It's not maybe it is, maybe the people out there and lots of it can be overly florid
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  and all that kind of stuff, but
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  it's...
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  Yeah, there are some absolute belters. There's one what's the other one?
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  The Lays of Rome
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  by McCauley.
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  It's 50 verses long, right? So
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  and it's about Horatius
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  and two stout Romans defending Rome against the Etruscans,
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  and it's just it's fab. It's like a boy's own poem,
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  it's so good, it's just it's so evocative.
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  Let me just read you the last sentence here, the last stanza, okay? The last one, it's about 14, I can't read all of it out, but this has got such a lovely line in it.
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  Because he's... The raven is just sit there and it croaks at him. He keeps saying, nevermore or however it says, however a raiment would say nevermore, which startles him.
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  And the last the last stanza goes, and the raven,
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  never flitting,
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  still is sitting,
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  still is sitting
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  on the pallid bust of palace just above my chamber door,
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  and his eyes have have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming,
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  and the light the lamplight o'er him streaming throws his shadow on the floor,
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  and my soul from out that shadow
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  that lies floating on the floor
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  shall be lifted
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  nevermore.
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  It's great. Yes. I just... That like... And his eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming.
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  I
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  love that.
• 2:50:28
  Yeah.
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  I just love it. I don't know why I love it, but I love it. Anyway, it's got beauty in it, you see? It's beauty. That's what this is. You just to be reminded, you go, oh, look, there are these little jewels of delightful, brilliant, wonderful, amazing stuff
• 2:50:41
  that you can pick up, and it don't half strengthen your soul and your heart. If you just spend a few minutes just plunging into this stuff, it's very, very good for the soul. I do believe that. Yeah. And sometimes poets
• 2:50:53
  Unknown: are the ones who get persecuted,
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  aren't they? Because they
• 2:50:58
  Unknown: tap into something that worries the hell out of the controllers. That's right.
• 2:51:03
  Unknown: Now when I was in prison
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  in 2018
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  in Germany,
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  I did have in my cell,
• 2:51:10
  so I had it in my hands
• 2:51:13
  for about two weeks, a really big book,
• 2:51:17
  a beautiful big book, hardcover book that was
• 2:51:21
  of German poetry as far back
• 2:51:25
  as they could find poems.
• 2:51:29
  Then in the modern era, you know, there were lots of poems from the modern times but the further back you went through the centuries, the fewer the poems obviously because
• 2:51:40
  so much gets lost over time.
• 2:51:43
  And I spent so much time just reading, just perusing through that book. Obviously, I couldn't read the whole book. It was quite a large book but I would peruse
• 2:51:53
  through different parts of it and read all these poems. And
• 2:51:57
  something struck me with some of these poems
• 2:52:01
  that were written, let's say, three hundred years ago or something else written longer ago or another maybe one hundred and fifty years ago or whatever that I thought, Oh my goodness,
• 2:52:12
  this could have been written now in our present day because some of these poems
• 2:52:18
  made reference to
• 2:52:20
  the Germans
• 2:52:22
  who had become
• 2:52:24
  quite
• 2:52:26
  almost like I don't know if they use the words asleep but
• 2:52:30
  know went to sleep and then
• 2:52:33
  finally
• 2:52:34
  woke up and arose again and you know
• 2:52:38
  realized or understood
• 2:52:41
  the fight
• 2:52:42
  they're in. So it's like we've been here before, you see. This is the impression I got because I thought, wow, this poem could have been written now
• 2:52:50
  about poems that were written a long time ago. So I think that,
• 2:52:54
  you know, this battle upon
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  the Germanic
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  people
• 2:53:00
  has been
• 2:53:02
  Unknown: a long time, long time, long time. Debbie mentioned that. You missed Debbie used the phrase Debbie was the previous guest, we were talking about the Fabian Society.
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  Okay. She mentioned the Germanic people, which is what we are,
• 2:53:14
  and
• 2:53:15
  you know, we're just talking about the world population that we're down to 7% apparently, and
• 2:53:20
  we were about twenty nine percent one hundred and twenty years ago.
• 2:53:24
  And
• 2:53:25
  it's worth just repeating this forever and forever until it changes, that this war is not against all the people of the earth, it's just against us. That's right.
• 2:53:34
  And white people need to wake up and stand with one another, That's You're not gonna get any help from anybody else ever.
• 2:53:41
  Correct. Ever.
• 2:53:43
  You're never gonna get it,
• 2:53:45
  because we are there, there's a begogee, there's some kind of, there's a situation and the people that keep reaching out to others are not caring for their own.
• 2:53:54
  Well that's a lot of trouble.
• 2:53:56
  Unknown: We do
• 2:53:58
  go all over the world and help other people.
• 2:54:00
  In fact, I would say that we are responsible
• 2:54:04
  for much of the existence of the people in other places because
• 2:54:11
  they wouldn't have the population they have,
• 2:54:15
  for example in Africa, if it was not for our
• 2:54:19
  good people going over there helping them to build sanitary systems, building this and that and the other thing that keeps them alive.
• 2:54:27
  So
• 2:54:28
  we are responsible for their very existence,
• 2:54:31
  like a good portion of them.
• 2:54:35
  And, well, that becomes a bioweapon used against us, you know, to open the borders up now.
• 2:54:41
  Unknown: Right? It's a great...
• 2:54:43
  We're involved in a tragedy of our own allowance. We've allowed it to happen. But most of us, for most of our lives, didn't realize it was happening. It's just... I'm the same. Right? Of course.
• 2:54:55
  And then suddenly, you get hit in the head by the proverbial two b four, and you go, wait. What was that? Hang on just a minute. And you look around and then you really have to start looking and then twenty five thirty years later you go, oh, now I see. And then you realize that nobody else or very few people have been paying attention to these things and you go, oh, there's very few people I can speak to about this.
• 2:55:14
  There's a thing, you know, Debbie was on early was telling me something about the... Is it Cassandra syndrome?
• 2:55:20
  And I looked it up. It's very interesting. You know, we talk about
• 2:55:23
  there's the Dunning Kruger effect. That's one of these things, which is where people have an overinflated sense of their own abilities. We're governed by people like that. Right? Oh, I'm fantastic
• 2:55:33
  at this. No mate, you're crap. That kind of stuff. Right? And they can't take that critics. They just don't hear you. But Cassandra,
• 2:55:40
  it might be syndrome or complexes.
• 2:55:43
  Zeus
• 2:55:44
  has a it might be his daughter or something like that. Anyway, she's given the gift
• 2:55:49
  of foresight.
• 2:55:51
  She can see what's gonna happen, and this is very valuable when she communicates to others. But she does something, I can't remember how the story goes, and Ziyush cuts that, it doesn't cut that power off from her,
• 2:56:03
  but what he does is, he makes it so that all the people that would listen to her, don't listen to her anymore. And she stews in her own knowledge, it's awful, it's a terrible thing. And this is kind of what we're faced with, is going off and communicating things to people,
• 2:56:19
  know, that
• 2:56:21
  and you're looking at people and you realize that not a bloody words coming in, nothing.
• 2:56:26
  You're going okay, we've gotta move on. And you know in in the old testament, there's the book of Jeremiah,
• 2:56:31
  which is a simple thing. Know, have you heard people being called, he's like an old Jeremiah banging on about stuff,
• 2:56:37
  and this is because Jeremiah
• 2:56:38
  was faced with exactly the same situation, really that we're in right now,
• 2:56:43
  which is that troubles coming and he's he's instructed to go off and tell everybody and they're all arsing about. They're all having too much fun, and they won't pay attention. And he just has to keep going on, and he gets locked up, and he gets beaten up and everything like... It's not it's not good for him at all.
• 2:56:59
  And I'm not trying to give everybody a downer right here at the end of the show, although I possibly am, because we're just about we're just about out of time, but it's worth it's worth checking out and looking up. Oh, we had a question in. What is... Where do people find Alfred's address? That's Oh, from Alice Gorgias thank Monica. Yeah. Thank you for asking about that. So go to the
• 2:57:19
  Unknown: truthandjusticeforgermans.com.
• 2:57:24
  All
• 2:57:25
  one word.
• 2:57:26
  All one word. Truthandjusticeforgermans.com.
• 2:57:31
  And there's a political prisoners page there, and you will find Alfred's address there and he will be there for the foreseeable future. At some point he's gonna get transferred but not we don't have a date for that so for now that's where he is.
• 2:57:47
  You so much for that question. I'm glad I had a chance to say that. Yeah. Thanks for asking it, Alice. Truthandjusticeforgermans.com.
• 2:57:54
  Unknown: So
• 2:57:55
  Alfred's address can be found there. Monica, as always, it's delightful to have you, and an hour seems like about five minutes when you're here. It really does. Thank you so much. It did go by fast. It it was lovely to be on with you. With your time zone. I'm blaming that. I know. That's it. It's your fault. It's all gone wonky. That's it. The hour just flew by because it it was... We missed it.
• 2:58:17
  The time zone missed it or something. I don't know. I know. Thanks thanks to everyone in, in YouTube and Rumble and on FFT Radio and elsewhere where we've been streaming tonight. We'll be back again same time next week with more interesting chat. Can't tell you who, but we'll... It'll be good.
• 2:58:34
  So have a cracking week, and we'll see you all back then. Bye for now, everybody. Bye bye. Bye bye.
• 2:58:48
  Unknown: Okay. And we are clear. Great. I really enjoyed that. That's good. But you didn't say how we can write to the bat. You didn't give the address of where the bat is because you you wanna write to the bat.
• 2:59:00
  Unknown: Yeah. But there's a lot of demand for the bat's address, but I didn't wanna bring it up. Yes. I
• 2:59:05
  Unknown: have to go back and listen to the song that you played at the beginning because it was a wonderful song, but I was distracted so I didn't catch the lyrics and besides which I have a hard time to... I have to really concentrate to get the lyrics but it sounded very very interesting the bits I did get about the the lady or the female being more dangerous
• 2:59:26
  in this... The female of the species is more deadly than the male. Oh, that's it. Yeah. And you say that's based on a poem?
• 2:59:35
  Unknown: It is a poem. The whole of the lyrics are a poem by Kipling, Rudyard Kipling, called the female of the species is more deadly than the male. Yeah. Have to look that up. I'll just look that up. Oh, it's wonderful. It'll... It's very good. And he's got great insights
• 2:59:50
  about the drives right at the base of things. There's some very... And he's quite he's quite critical of men and rightly so.
• 2:59:58
  Unknown: Yeah. But, you know, I I think this is correct what he says. The female of the species is more deadly than the male. I'm writing it down. If you're a spider, is because the females eat the... After mating, they eat Okay. The male, don't
• 3:00:11
  But is he not alluding to humans?
• 3:00:15
  Unknown: Yes. Yes. Yes. Is.
• 3:00:17
  Just having a bit of laugh there. Yeah. No. I I don't know.... Great lines in it. It's got some great lines in it. How long have you got? Have you got a couple of minutes still, Monica? Yes. I do. Yeah. So
• 3:00:28
  I've been droning on to everybody about this reason. I have not mentioned it in this show, but we had an Eli on a couple of weeks ago, and I've... This is just a theme. I I've got a little view for you, which is that I've been
• 3:00:40
  I've been plowing through a book, actually plowing is the wrong word, I actually shot through this book
• 3:00:45
  820
• 3:00:46
  pages, and it took me about
• 3:00:48
  nine days to get through it. Couldn't leave it alone.
• 3:00:51
  And it taps into Canada. It's called
• 3:00:55
  fifty years in the Church of Rome
• 3:00:57
  Oh. By Charles Chinookie,
• 3:01:00
  who was a French Canadian.
• 3:01:02
  Okay. And he he was born about 1810 and died about eighteen ninety eight ninety five or something, so he had a good innings.
• 3:01:09
  And
• 3:01:10
  it's about his life as a
• 3:01:14
  Catholic priest for fifty years, and
• 3:01:17
  then him leaving it,
• 3:01:19
  and it's a stunning book. It's absolutely... It's amazing book, and
• 3:01:24
  he bumps into Lincoln. Abraham Lincoln features Big in his life. He
• 3:01:30
  actually acts as a defense lawyer for Chinookie when Chinookie is falsely accused by the Catholic church because they don't like him
• 3:01:37
  of committing some lewd act with a woman, which he never did.
• 3:01:41
  And he doesn't have much money and somebody says there's a man,
• 3:01:45
  the best lawyer we can find for you is a man called Abraham Lincoln. This is about 1856,
• 3:01:50
  so this is before he's become president and before the war between the states.
• 3:01:54
  And Lincoln
• 3:01:56
  comes along and works for him for just $50.
• 3:02:01
  Lincoln comes out of this account really good, and I don't know everything about Lincoln and I'd like to know more, but what's
• 3:02:09
  stunning about the book,
• 3:02:11
  and I kind of knew this in general terms, but I'd never looked into it in terms of precise detail is,
• 3:02:16
  as you know
• 3:02:18
  Judaism springs from Babylon,
• 3:02:20
  right? And
• 3:02:21
  it's ancient thing, because they've got the Babylonian Talmud.
• 3:02:25
  Unknown: Right.
• 3:02:26
  Unknown: Okay, well Catholicism does as well. Oh.
• 3:02:31
  I'm going to suggest that, and in fact I talked to Eli about this,
• 3:02:36
  and
• 3:02:37
  what happened was that the priesthoods of Babylon, when that Babylon went down, it moved to a place called Pergamon in Greece,
• 3:02:44
  and from Pergamon it went to Rome,
• 3:02:47
  and the whole of the priestly
• 3:02:49
  sort of doctrines and everything that are embedded still within the Catholic church are effectively
• 3:02:55
  Babylonian.
• 3:02:57
  Unknown: Wow.
• 3:02:58
  Unknown: And
• 3:02:59
  the parallels
• 3:03:01
  between
• 3:03:04
  the training of the priests and the training of the rabbis
• 3:03:08
  Unknown: just leapt out at me as I'm going through this. Oh my goodness, that is so interesting. Well, know the priests
• 3:03:13
  or the bishops, not the priests but bishops,
• 3:03:16
  they do have that little cap on their head
• 3:03:20
  Unknown: in the Catholic church, do they not?: Don't they just?: I'll call it a doily. It's a doily, isn't it?: And did you know that
• 3:03:27
  there's an instruction to the people in the Bible that they never have anything on their head
• 3:03:32
  Unknown: Oh. When they go to worship God. Yeah. Oh, I thought that the... Well, maybe that's just the males because I thought that the female.
• 3:03:40
  Unknown: Yes, definitely the males. You don't have a hat on when you go to church right? Right. So who who puts hats on? Why why is the Pope's hat exactly the same as a rabbi's? Yeah yeah exactly exactly. Okay.
• 3:03:52
  Yeah and I am currently now of the view that it's as equally bad as Judaism
• 3:03:59
  in terms of our recovery.
• 3:04:01
  Unknown: Oh my god.
• 3:04:03
  Unknown: Yeah it's that bad. In other words what they are,
• 3:04:06
  Jewish side is that they are to us that know
• 3:04:10
  an avert enemy, because you get familiar with what it is that they're involved with. But the Catholic church is possibly worse because it's literally a wolf in sheep's clothing. It's masquerading as delivering
• 3:04:22
  so called the truth of God and Christianity to these people,
• 3:04:26
  and it isn't.
• 3:04:27
  It's actually it's
• 3:04:29
  Babylonian idol worship. That's what it is. That is so interesting.
• 3:04:33
  Unknown: Just don't I'm still so confused about all these things. What do you make of
• 3:04:38
  people like Gemma O'Daugherty who say
• 3:04:41
  that really when Ireland was Catholic still,
• 3:04:45
  they had the good morals. They had the strength to keep the good morals, you know, they didn't let
• 3:04:52
  Unknown: the abortionists But they were also beholden to the church of Rome. There's a there's a...
• 3:04:57
  There's some... I think that the Irish people are completely enslaved by it. I agree with you. But And don't don't mind if I go. I'm feeling a little bit tired. But That's fine, Chris. I'll I'll catch you later, mate. Good. See you see you, Monica. Yeah. Bye bye. Paul. Bye. Yeah. See you, Eric. Thank you very much for tonight, Eric. Thank you. Bye bye. Bye. Bye bye. Blasting the voices of them worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
• 3:05:23
  Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.