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Which Young Buckeyes Will Stand Out Against Purdue? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Buck Eyes tomorrow morning for Saturday, November ninth.
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Speaker 1: I'm your host, tom Or. The Perdue game is today,
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Speaker 1: the game against Michigan in just twenty one days, three
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Speaker 1: weeks away from the Michigan game. Where has this college
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Speaker 1: football season gone? Well, I can tell you where this
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Speaker 1: college football season is going on Saturday, and that is
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Speaker 1: to a wire stadium at noon where the Buckeyes are
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Speaker 1: going to be facing the Perdue Boilermakers. And welcome in
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Speaker 1: Kevinneuda Buckeheadle dot com. He just wrote his signature Tale
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Speaker 1: of the Tape column about this game. Real Deep Dive
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Speaker 1: takes a very close look at every unit on the field,
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Speaker 1: and Kevin, I'm glad you took a very close look
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Speaker 1: at this game because I'm going to need to know
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Speaker 1: if there is one single area where you think Perdue
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Speaker 1: might be able to keep things interesting on Saturday.
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Speaker 2: Only if they locked the buck guys in their own
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Speaker 2: locker room or on the bus coming back from the
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Speaker 2: hotel downtown. This game is a classic mismatch. Now that
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Speaker 2: doesn't mean that we haven't seen instances were classic matches
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Speaker 2: turned into oh you know what type of games. But
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Speaker 2: this Purdue team is not very good. As we were
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Speaker 2: joking about earlier in the week, in the eighteen team
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Speaker 2: Big Ten, there is maybe a question who the sixteenth
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Speaker 2: team is and who the seventeenth team is, but there's
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Speaker 2: no question who the eighteenth team is, and that would
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Speaker 2: be your boiler Makers of Perdue, because they are not
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Speaker 2: that good.
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Speaker 1: And I think over the years you have seen Purdue
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Speaker 1: be the spoiler Makers in their famous play on words
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Speaker 1: with their nickname. They have beaten five or excuse me,
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Speaker 1: four top five Ohio State teams over the years, but
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Speaker 1: it hasn't happened since twenty eighteen. That one was in
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Speaker 1: was in West Lafayette. Before that, it was nineteen eighty four.
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Speaker 1: They've not beaten Ohio State in Columbus since nineteen eighty eight.
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Speaker 1: And you had a great stat in your column this
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Speaker 1: week on the road, Purdue has given up nearly forty
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Speaker 1: seven points per game. Defense is not good, but Purdue
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Speaker 1: in West Lafayette is one thing. Purdue away from West
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Speaker 1: Lafayette is another, and that thing is not as good
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Speaker 1: as the Purdue in West Lafayette thing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a lot of you know, there are
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Speaker 2: years where Purdue kind of steps up and is a
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Speaker 2: respectable team. But you know, Jeff Brawm is now at Louisville,
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Speaker 2: and Ryan Walters came in and drew an impossible hand.
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Speaker 2: I kind of, you know, take it back to when
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Speaker 2: Darryl Hazel left Kent State, former Ohio state wide receivers coach,
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Speaker 2: and went to Purdue, and he ran into kind of
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Speaker 2: a brick wall because they can't really recruit, even though
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Speaker 2: they're in Indiana, which is more of a basketball state
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Speaker 2: than a football state. But there are going to be
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Speaker 2: a couple of guys, but you're going to have to
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Speaker 2: sit there and recruit against Ohio State, Notre Dame, even IU.
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Speaker 2: And it's kind of weird talking about IU football as
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Speaker 2: a as a plus rather than just a dash. But
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Speaker 2: you know right now IU is a plus. So there's
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Speaker 2: just not a lot going right for this Purdue team.
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Speaker 2: You have, you have a head coach and Walters the
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Speaker 2: former DC at Illinois defensive minded coach, and this defense
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Speaker 2: is just it's just horrible. I mean, it is just
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Speaker 2: absolutely horrible. I got my column in front of me.
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Speaker 2: They're one twenty one against the run, they're one twenty
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Speaker 2: six and passing efficiency defense, they're one twenty seven in
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Speaker 2: scoring defense. Mind you, they are one thirty three. They're
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Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty three teams right now in Division one.
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Speaker 2: That number kind of moves based on who's in transition
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Speaker 2: from double A to single A. You know, I hate
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Speaker 2: ATBs and fcs. I don't. I mean, I'll use it
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Speaker 2: when I'm writing, but that's not the way I talk.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's one A and one double A. They're
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Speaker 2: just not great. They got a car Flattis on the team,
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Speaker 2: but it's not George, it's Yanni, and Yanni's just not
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Speaker 2: necessarily I think. I think Yanni is a heck of
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Speaker 2: a player if he was surrounded with some talent. Unfortunately
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Speaker 2: for him, he's you know, he really is kind of
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Speaker 2: you know, stuck at this point. But there's a as
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Speaker 2: there's a guy named Kydrin Jenkins who's another linebacker, eight
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Speaker 2: and a half tackles for lost five and a half sacks.
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Speaker 2: I would say that the linebackers are maybe the strongest
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Speaker 2: point of the defense. But again, right now, at this point,
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Speaker 2: we're just kind of trying to talk about you know,
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Speaker 2: who's you know, who's who's the tallest toddler. I mean,
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Speaker 2: it's not necessarily really going to mean much. So yeah,
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Speaker 2: of course everybody's going to say, well, then Ohio State
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Speaker 2: needs to come out and win this game by one hundred,
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Speaker 2: and we know that that isn't necessarily how football works.
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Speaker 2: But we talk about a name of score game, and
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Speaker 2: I feel like this is a name you score game.
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Speaker 1: In the score that Ohio State names might not be
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Speaker 1: sixty points or seventy points today because it feels like
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Speaker 1: they're going to probably be looking to get some of
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Speaker 1: the younger guys and some of the backups some more reps.
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Speaker 1: And we're going to talk about that a little bit
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Speaker 1: more later on in the show, but I did want
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Speaker 1: to talk about produced defense a little bit more. They
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Speaker 1: are eight games into the season. They are one and seven,
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Speaker 1: Their only win is against FCS Indiana State, and eight
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Speaker 1: games in the season, they have given up twenty for
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Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns this season. So I will do the math
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Speaker 1: for you. Three times a game someone from the other
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Speaker 1: team is running the ball across the goal line. That
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Speaker 1: is not very good. You had a great stat in
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Speaker 1: there giving up two hundred and three yards per game
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Speaker 1: on the ground they are turned That is a top
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Speaker 1: twenty one. They're only twenty one teams in Division One
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Speaker 1: that have run for more than for at least two
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Speaker 1: hundred and three yards per game. So produced defense turns
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Speaker 1: every team into a top twenty rushing attack in the nation.
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Speaker 1: When you're looking at a rushing attack that is substantially
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Speaker 1: better than that for Ohio State, you wonder just how
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Speaker 1: good of a rushing attack that could turn the Buckeyes into.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I mean, we're coming off of the ten
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Speaker 2: State game where Ohio State runs for a buck seventy
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Speaker 2: something kept out of the end zone. It wasn't for
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Speaker 2: lack of trying. Will Howard had his fumble that you know,
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Speaker 2: costs the Buckeyes a touchdown. At that point, there probably
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Speaker 2: is going to be the mindset for some people, Let's
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Speaker 2: just run the ball and you know, keep that plock
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Speaker 2: moving and get on with our lives and see it
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Speaker 2: Wrigley next week. So what does Ohio State do there?
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Speaker 2: Do They try to build on some things with the
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Speaker 2: new with the new the new look offensive line, with
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Speaker 2: the insertion of Carson Henzman kicking Donovan Jackson out the tackle.
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Speaker 2: I could I could see that, But I also think
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Speaker 2: that it's important to keep all aspects of your team
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Speaker 2: moving forward. So I don't think that you're going to
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Speaker 2: see a case of where Ohio State's going to have
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Speaker 2: sixty five offensive plays and forty of them are going
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Speaker 2: to be on the ground. But I think I would
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Speaker 2: not be surprised if Ohio State is fifty seven percent
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Speaker 2: run forty three percent pass. I mean, just something tilted
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Speaker 2: a little bit more than you know, if you sat
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Speaker 2: there and said, oh, it's going to be fifty five
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Speaker 2: to forty five, I'm never going to be shocked with that,
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Speaker 2: but if you know, maybe just a hair more based
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Speaker 2: on what's there. But then again, if home, if Ohio
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Speaker 2: State makes a bunch of home run runs, things could
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Speaker 2: be different. So you know, I just I don't know,
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Speaker 2: don't know well.
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Speaker 1: And so twenty four touchdowns allowed on the ground by Purdue,
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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's more amazing at this point
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Speaker 1: of the season or this stat on the other side
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Speaker 1: of the ball, but has run the ball in Take
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Speaker 1: a second, just think for a moment and pick come
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Speaker 1: up with a number. How many rushing touchdowns does Perdue
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Speaker 1: have through eight games this season? You know, you can
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Speaker 1: play the Jeopardy music in your head. So we don't
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Speaker 1: get a copyright strike. I won't play it out loud. Okay,
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Speaker 1: times up, the answer is what is three? So yes,
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Speaker 1: three rushing touchdowns for Purdue this year. The running back.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they've got Devin Makaby, who's been a decent
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Speaker 1: running back in the past. But the offensive line doesn't
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Speaker 1: feel like there's a whole lot there. The passing game
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Speaker 1: doesn't feel like there's a whole lot to take the
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Speaker 1: pressure off the running game. It just feels like there's
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Speaker 1: not a whole lot of anything there on offense for
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Speaker 1: the boiler Makers.
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Speaker 2: There's not something that I didn't mention entail the tape.
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Speaker 2: I just generally go into data mode when I write these,
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Speaker 2: and for Purdue, I didn't go and do as deep
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Speaker 2: of a dive as I would in State or Indiana
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Speaker 2: or the team up north or whatever. They've already let
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Speaker 2: go of their offensive coordinator. I mean, Graham Harrell is
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Speaker 2: already out. So obviously something was not working offensively, and
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Speaker 2: you know, the stats don't lie, but Purdue just is
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Speaker 2: not in a great situation because, you know, not to
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Speaker 2: get ahead of ourselves, they've kind of gone back and
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Speaker 2: forth at quarterback Hutson card Ryan Brown back to Hudson
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Speaker 2: card I mean, I just I don't know. So, you know,
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Speaker 2: if you can't throw and you can't run, I mean,
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Speaker 2: you're really I guess you're really hoping on your defense
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Speaker 2: to lead you. And when you're all in the one twenties,
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Speaker 2: there's just not much there. So you know, it just
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Speaker 2: seems like Purdue is playing out the string at this point.
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Speaker 2: And I don't I don't really see any more wins
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Speaker 2: on produce schedule. I mean unless unless they suddenly put
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Speaker 2: a game up against like a D three team or
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Speaker 2: something like that. I mean that they can sit there
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Speaker 2: and back out of the old oaken bucket game against
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Speaker 2: Indiana in the year and play you know, Maryon University
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Speaker 2: out of Indianapolis, which I don't even know if they
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Speaker 2: have a football team. But you know, this is a
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Speaker 2: this is an epically blowed team.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. We have seen bad Purdue teams over the years.
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Speaker 1: This feels like it is down with the worst of
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Speaker 1: the Daryl Hazel or down with the worst of the
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Speaker 1: Jim Coleto teams. Just not you've seen average Purdue teams
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Speaker 1: or some Danny Hope teams were kind of five win teams.
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Speaker 1: This is this is one of the bad, bad Purdue teams.
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Speaker 1: They do have two quarterbacks who they've played. Hudson Card
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Speaker 1: who is a transfer from Texas, I believe if I
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Speaker 1: remember correctly, Yeah, Texas, And when he was out, they
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Speaker 1: played Ryan Brown. Ryan Brown came in started against Illinois.
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Speaker 1: They put up forty nine points in overtime. Forty nine points.
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Speaker 1: Now they gave up fifty, so they lost the game anyway.
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Speaker 1: But they put up forty nine points and it was like,
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Speaker 1: oh boy, maybe they found something. And then the next
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Speaker 1: week it went right packed. Nope, Nope, they have not
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Speaker 1: found anything. Does it matter? I mean, they're two kind
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Speaker 1: of different styles of quarterback, Browns a little more of
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Speaker 1: a dual threat. Does that matter at all who this
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Speaker 1: quarterback is or if Purdue mixes and matches on Saturday?
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Speaker 2: Not really? I mean, I Hudson Card is, you know,
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Speaker 2: I remember covering him. He went to Austin west Lake
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Speaker 2: High School, which has turned out a lot of great quarterbacks.
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Speaker 2: Ohio State was recruiting Hudson Card for a while and
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Speaker 2: before he committed to the Longhorns and then subsequently transferred
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Speaker 2: to Purdue. On the other hand, Ryan Brown a little
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Speaker 2: bit more mobile. I think that Brown potentially could give
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Speaker 2: Ohio State, maybe a little bit more trouble just because
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Speaker 2: of how slippery he is. But I don't know if
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Speaker 2: either of them are really going to have a wholesale
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Speaker 2: change in terms of what we would see in terms
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Speaker 2: of the outcome. They're both both extremely hampered by the
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Speaker 2: talent that is around them. And that's I'm not trying
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Speaker 2: to be ugly and say, oh, well, you kids, you know,
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Speaker 2: you suck and you suck, but it's you know, I
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Speaker 2: can look at the numbers, I can look at the data,
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Speaker 2: and you know, maybe I don't know if it's chicken
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Speaker 2: or egg situation. Are the receivers not putting up numbers
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Speaker 2: because the quarterbacks can't throw it to them? Is that
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Speaker 2: that the quarterbacks, you know, are are hampered because the
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Speaker 2: receivers can't catch. I think there's probably a little bit
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Speaker 2: of everything that is going on there. And when you
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Speaker 2: are just losing week in and week out, it's hard
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Speaker 2: to break out of that. I mean, we talk so
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Speaker 2: much about the sports psychology of learning how to win
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Speaker 2: the big game. This team doesn't know how to win
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Speaker 2: any game really except for Indiana State, and that was,
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Speaker 2: you know, fifty six nothing, And right there, we're looking
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Speaker 2: at a lion's share of most of the offensive stats
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Speaker 2: team has been able to record the season. So when
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Speaker 2: I do my spreadsheets, I always put one double A teams.
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Speaker 2: I always gray them out a little bit, just so
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Speaker 2: I don't ever really consider those numbers because of what
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Speaker 2: it is. Now, if you're playing North Dakota State or
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Speaker 2: something like that, maybe it's a very light shade of
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Speaker 2: gray because that's entirely different than Indiana State, who I
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Speaker 2: don't know where they stand in the one double A hierarchy,
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Speaker 2: but I'm going to probably I'm going to say it's
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Speaker 2: probably not in the top five. So you know, there
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Speaker 2: you go.
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Speaker 1: There you go. So that's a lot more Purdue than
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Speaker 1: we probably needed to talk, but we do. We're going
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Speaker 1: to check that box. So now that box is checked.
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Speaker 1: Now one do I think what is the much more
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Speaker 1: interesting question about Saturday, and that question is which young
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Speaker 1: Buckeyes are we going to see maybe get more of
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Speaker 1: an extended run. They've had a bunch of close games
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Speaker 1: the last month or so, even going back to the
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Speaker 1: Iowa game that was close into the second half, and
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Speaker 1: then of course Oregon and then of course Nebraska and
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Speaker 1: then of course Penn State. So lots of close games
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Speaker 1: for the last month, So which young Buckeyes are you
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Speaker 1: maybe most interested to see maybe get a little bit
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Speaker 1: more run On Saturday.
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Speaker 2: I had an offensive guy prepared, so I'll talk about
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Speaker 2: that as I kind of filibuster to talk about my
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Speaker 2: defensive player. I'm really you know, James Peoples is who
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Speaker 2: I'm going to say because of Produe's inability to stop
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Speaker 2: the run. And I think that it would be a
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Speaker 2: good opportunity for Ohio State to tell Trevion and to
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Speaker 2: tell Quinchan know, we're going to cap you each at
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Speaker 2: like twelve carries because we want to sit there and
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Speaker 2: see a little bit more of the depth. And James
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Speaker 2: People certainly has earned playing time. The problem is being
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Speaker 2: behind one of the best one to two punches in
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Speaker 2: program history, doesn't you know, doesn't bode well for the
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Speaker 2: guy who's number three. So that's who i'd say on
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Speaker 2: the offensive side. On on the on the defensive side,
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Edric Houston, you know, and and and
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Speaker 2: that one's unfair because we are seeing more and more
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Speaker 2: Edward Houston. I think as games go on, even in
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Speaker 2: even against better opponents, but I think that there's going
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Speaker 2: to be the opportunity for the defensive line to have
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Speaker 2: that type of impact. And you know there are guys
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Speaker 2: that are a year older than him, obviously Kate McDonald
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Speaker 2: here a Canoe, but again they were so pivotal in
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Speaker 2: that goal line stand at Penn State where they stoned
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Speaker 2: them three times and then on the fourth down play
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Speaker 2: all are threw into triple coverage. So Houston on defense
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Speaker 2: and People's on offense.
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Speaker 1: I think those are both good picks. And you might
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Speaker 1: see more of those younger guys in the interior the
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Speaker 1: defensive line. Tyler Williams, the sound of Ryan Day's conversation
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Speaker 1: around him was encouraging that, yeah, he can go. This
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Speaker 1: feels like a game where you might just sit Tyler
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Speaker 1: Williams just to be safe and let those younger guys
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Speaker 1: play a little more. So you might see a little
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Speaker 1: more Edward Houston and Hero Canoe and Caden McDonald. Certainly
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Speaker 1: Kate McDonald might very well start that game. We'll see
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Speaker 1: how that all shakes out. But lots of interesting stuff
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Speaker 1: to keep an eye on today. Get to see some
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Speaker 1: of those younger guys. You maybe see some Julian say
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Speaker 1: in today. Maybe see Milon Graham maybe see Bryce and Rogers,
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Speaker 1: some of those guys in the wide receiver room. Lots
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Speaker 1: of interesting things to keep an eye out for later
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