Latest / DEEP INSIGHT / Explaining whereabouts rules for athletes after swimmer Penny Oleksiak's ban
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Penny Alexia, Canada's most decorated female olympian, has accepted a
- 0:04Speaker 1: ban from competition until twenty twenty seven. It stems from
- 0:08Speaker 1: three so called whereabouts failures issued by the World Anti
- 0:12Speaker 1: Doping Agency. So athletes must provide a daily sixty minute
- 0:17Speaker 1: availability window ninety days in advance to be tested, regardless
- 0:21Speaker 1: of where in the world they are. The twenty five
- 0:24Speaker 1: year old from Toronto will have any competitive results from
- 0:27Speaker 1: June sixteenth onward disqualified. That includes medals, points and prizes.
- 0:34Speaker 1: Let's discuss this a little bit more with Brittany McClain Campbell.
- 0:37Speaker 1: Brittany's a former Olympic teammate at Penny ALEXIAX and the
- 0:41Speaker 1: host of The Ready Room on CBC Sports. Brittany, thank
- 0:45Speaker 1: you very much for joining us. Do we know what's
- 0:48Speaker 1: behind these three failures to be available for the whereabouts checks?
- 0:55Speaker 2: All we've been told at this point is that there
- 0:57Speaker 2: was an error on.
- 0:58Speaker 3: Kind of the up keep of them, So to provide context,
- 1:02Speaker 3: you did a great job breaking it down, but each
- 1:04Speaker 3: athlete will have to provide an hour window every single day. Naturally,
- 1:08Speaker 3: things change in life. You can have an appointment run long,
- 1:11Speaker 3: you can have a flight that runs late.
- 1:13Speaker 2: There are so many levels to this.
- 1:14Speaker 3: You can grab a bite with a group of friends
- 1:17Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, your time window might be
- 1:19Speaker 3: needing to be adjusted. There is a system in place
- 1:22Speaker 3: to be able to adjust timing, but unfortunately there is
- 1:25Speaker 3: still room for air. So in this situation, we know
- 1:28Speaker 3: that Penny has received three infractions. So basically she either
- 1:32Speaker 3: wasn't where she said she would be during that one hour,
- 1:35Speaker 3: or she missed inputed information. So basically maybe there was
- 1:39Speaker 3: a spelling error or an error on the actual information
- 1:43Speaker 3: input in. But she has remained very firm in the
- 1:48Speaker 3: stance that she is still a clean athlete. She believes
- 1:50Speaker 3: in clean sports and this was an error unfortunately, to
- 1:54Speaker 3: miss testing.
- 1:56Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I've heard from some other Olympic athletes,
- 1:59Speaker 1: and you tell me if you agree with this, that
- 2:02Speaker 1: one violation could happen. This is kind of an onerous requirement,
- 2:07Speaker 1: and you know things can happen. You know, once twice
- 2:10Speaker 1: a little bit more difficult. But once you have those
- 2:13Speaker 1: two failures, third is kind of unimaginable. If you're still
- 2:17Speaker 1: a competitive swimmer who wants to remain eligible, what's your
- 2:22Speaker 1: perspective on that?
- 2:24Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, and you're absolutely right.
- 2:25Speaker 3: I mean it's a huge responsibility put on the athletes,
- 2:29Speaker 3: but at the end of the day, there aren't excuses.
- 2:32Speaker 2: This is something she would have been doing since she
- 2:34Speaker 2: was sixteen.
- 2:34Speaker 3: Years old, fifteen maybe even so it's been almost a decade,
- 2:38Speaker 3: and so this is something the athletes are very accustomed to,
- 2:41Speaker 3: and as much as it can be inconvenient or things
- 2:44Speaker 3: can happen, it is entirely up to them and a
- 2:47Speaker 3: responsibility of them if they want to compete at this
- 2:49Speaker 3: level and keep the clean sport kind of understanding still prevalent.
- 2:56Speaker 2: So yes, it's disappointing.
- 2:57Speaker 3: Absolutely, I completely understand why people do think that way.
- 3:03Speaker 2: I think mistakes happen.
- 3:05Speaker 3: I think there are some challenges though when it comes
- 3:07Speaker 3: to I don't think everyone fully understands, like having to
- 3:11Speaker 3: put down an hour of your day every single day,
- 3:14Speaker 3: the you know, a flight, like I said, the example
- 3:17Speaker 3: with a flight, or one time I was stuck in
- 3:18Speaker 3: traffic and my mom called me that they were at
- 3:21Speaker 3: our house. You know, you better get home, and I'm
- 3:23Speaker 3: racing the clock and I made it in time. But
- 3:26Speaker 3: we think the human error element is absolutely sustainable, and
- 3:31Speaker 3: we talk about one we talk about two, you're definitely
- 3:34Speaker 3: on the edge, but when you know you've already had two,
- 3:37Speaker 3: I think this is definitely disappointing to have happened with
- 3:40Speaker 3: a third strike. And I definitely think it's a good
- 3:43Speaker 3: reminder to athletes. I know that's one of the basis
- 3:45Speaker 3: that Swimmy Canada has been discussing for their athletes. This
- 3:48Speaker 3: is also a bit of a wake up call and
- 3:50Speaker 3: understanding that hopefully it's a lesson that everyone can learn
- 3:53Speaker 3: that not only are these situations existing, but there are
- 3:56Speaker 3: consequences to the actions and this is what is going
- 3:59Speaker 3: to take place for Penny two years out of the water.
- 4:02Speaker 1: I really appreciate you agreeing to speak with us. I
- 4:05Speaker 1: know it's always difficult for I mean, it's great to
- 4:09Speaker 1: have athletes who are helping with the media because we
- 4:12Speaker 1: gain your insight. It's sometimes difficult for the athletes because
- 4:16Speaker 1: you you know, you know the people you're reporting on,
- 4:18Speaker 1: you know, Penny Alexiac. But I have to I have
- 4:22Speaker 1: to ask you this, like I think for a lot
- 4:24Speaker 1: of us outside the world of competitive swimming, given everything
- 4:28Speaker 1: we've heard about missing three of these whereabouts checks, and
- 4:33Speaker 1: it just sounds suspicious. It sounds problematic. It sounds like like,
- 4:39Speaker 1: you know, could this be because of doping? So how
- 4:42Speaker 1: would you respond to that?
- 4:45Speaker 3: It's a very fair question, Ian, I think everybody has
- 4:48Speaker 3: different areas of question behind this story. I think the
- 4:52Speaker 3: one thing that I firmly believe in I think back
- 4:54Speaker 3: to the Penny that I know, the respect I have
- 4:57Speaker 3: for her as an athlete, and also the tea made
- 5:00Speaker 3: that I experienced watching her win Olympic gold. And I
- 5:03Speaker 3: also think to everything she's achieved for the country. Nobody's perfect,
- 5:08Speaker 3: and this is really unfortunate, and I think she would
- 5:10Speaker 3: be the first to admit that it's really unfortunate. But
- 5:13Speaker 3: I think I acknowledge everything she's done for the sport,
- 5:16Speaker 3: and I do, for me believe maybe it is on
- 5:19Speaker 3: you know, how I know her as a person, and
- 5:21Speaker 3: maybe it is on how much I believe in clean sport.
- 5:23Speaker 3: But I do believe that Penny Alexiak is you know,
- 5:27Speaker 3: a fair and a deserving individual, and I do believe
- 5:32Speaker 3: that this is something she can get through. But I
- 5:35Speaker 3: totally understand why this changes people's impressions of the memories
- 5:39Speaker 3: they have of her. And no matter what, even though
- 5:41Speaker 3: the band says for three miss tests. It is still
- 5:44Speaker 3: titled and labeled, and like you said, I work in
- 5:47Speaker 3: the media now I understand that it is labeled that
- 5:49Speaker 3: Penny Alexiak receives a World Anti Doping Agency fan and
- 5:53Speaker 3: not everyone has the ability to read into the context,
- 5:56Speaker 3: and not everyone's going to give her the benefit of
- 5:58Speaker 3: the doubt. But to me, as a teammate, as a
- 6:00Speaker 3: believer in clean sport, I am giving Penny the benefit
- 6:03Speaker 3: of the doubt. And I do believe that this was
- 6:05Speaker 3: a mistake, and I do believe that she's done really.
- 6:08Speaker 2: Exceptional things for the sport in this country.
- 6:10Speaker 3: And yeah, I just it's it is sad, and I mean,
- 6:15Speaker 3: I wish we weren't talking about this, but I understand
- 6:17Speaker 3: that this is a repercussion of her actions and that
- 6:21Speaker 3: this is kind of a reminder to hopefully a lot
- 6:23Speaker 3: of people to not let this happen to them.
- 6:26Speaker 1: So well said, and we appreciate the context so much.
- 6:30Speaker 1: That is Penny Alexia's former teammate and Olympic medalist Brittany
- 6:34Speaker 1: McLean Campbell, thank you so much.
- 6:36Speaker 2: Thank you, Ian