Latest / GO TEXAN THE Truly Significant / Truly Significant Texans in Agriculture honors Bob Flowers, 54 years of service with Texas Department of Ag
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- 0:21Speaker 1: Welcome back to Truly Significant Texans in Agriculture. I'm Rick
- 0:28Speaker 1: Tocchini with the one and only Bob Flowers.
- 0:48Speaker 2: We have been wanting to honor you for the longest
- 0:51Speaker 2: time from the lips of Sid Miller and Todd Smith
- 0:57Speaker 2: to getting to broadcast with you at the pavilion, the pavilion.
- 1:02Speaker 3: The pavilion. Home away from home. Crazy.
- 1:08Speaker 2: How many years have you been with the Texas Department
- 1:10Speaker 2: of Agriculture?
- 1:11Speaker 3: I'll have 54 years. It's coming November. Unbelievable. Unbelievable.
- 1:18Speaker 2: How many commissioners is that?
- 1:19Speaker 3: Well, Sid Miller's number seven.
- 1:22Speaker 2: Lucky seven.
- 1:23Speaker 3: Lucky seven.
- 1:24Speaker 2: You worked for the Aggie, Rick Perry.
- 1:26Speaker 3: Oh, I did. All eight years. I sure did.
- 1:33Speaker 2: Who else did you get to serve with?
- 1:36Speaker 3: Well, first it was John C. White. And he was
- 1:41Speaker 3: appointed the chairman of the National Democratic Committee, so he
- 1:45Speaker 3: stepped down. governor appointed, I can't remember, Dolph Briscoe appointed
- 1:50Speaker 3: Reagan Brown. Okay. And he served a term and a half,
- 1:56Speaker 3: and then Jim Hightower beat him in 1982. Yep. And
- 2:02Speaker 3: then after that, eight years there, and Rick Perry beat
- 2:07Speaker 3: Jim Hightower in 1990, I believe, in the eight years. Okay.
- 2:12Speaker 3: He stepped down to run for lieutenant governor, and... Susan Combs,
- 2:18Speaker 3: she came in and won the election. And she, by
- 2:21Speaker 3: the way, is the one that started our Go Texans program.
- 2:24Speaker 3: I got a neat little story I'll tell you in
- 2:27Speaker 3: a second. And then she stepped down after eight years.
- 2:31Speaker 3: Eight years seems to be the magic number, except for
- 2:34Speaker 3: Sid Miller. But after eight years, then Todd Staples came in.
- 2:40Speaker 3: And he stepped down to run for lieutenant governor. And
- 2:44Speaker 3: Sid Miller stepped in.
- 2:46Speaker 2: There's a pattern there of everybody in the office using
- 2:52Speaker 2: it almost as a stepping stone to something supposedly greater.
- 2:56Speaker 3: Yep. Well, Senator Miller, he said, when he first came in,
- 3:01Speaker 3: he had a meeting with staff downtown in Austin. He said,
- 3:04Speaker 3: I am not using this agency as a stepping stone.
- 3:07Speaker 3: I'm going to be here. And he's been true to
- 3:10Speaker 3: his word.
- 3:10Speaker 2: Yeah. Isn't that nice?
- 3:12Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 3:13Speaker 2: It's about time. Okay. So the, The year you started was?
- 3:17Speaker 3: 1972.
- 3:21Speaker 2: A different age and world.
- 3:24Speaker 3: Very different. Very different.
- 3:26Speaker 2: What was day?
- 3:27Speaker 3: A different pavilion.
- 3:28Speaker 2: A different pavilion. What was day one like or the
- 3:31Speaker 2: first year for you? Describe all the happy, funny. Not
- 3:36Speaker 2: all the funny things, but.
- 3:38Speaker 3: Yeah, and probably going to be a few things I
- 3:40Speaker 3: can't talk about.
- 3:41Speaker 2: But.
- 3:42Speaker 3: I understand. My very first. duty or job was to
- 3:47Speaker 3: drive a van. We had an old three speed on
- 3:50Speaker 3: the column van. And I had to drive up to Waxahachie.
- 3:54Speaker 3: I was in marketing. I was in marketing. And we
- 3:57Speaker 3: were feeding about 300 or 200 Japanese businessmen at a
- 4:04Speaker 3: venue in Waxahachie. I have no idea where it was.
- 4:06Speaker 3: We served them shish kebabs. But it was to interview
- 4:10Speaker 3: them to Texas Beef. Of course. Yeah, and that was
- 4:13Speaker 3: my very first thing, and I didn't know what in
- 4:15Speaker 3: the world I was supposed to do except help set
- 4:17Speaker 3: up tables and stuff like that. It was a lot
- 4:21Speaker 3: of fun. I thought, well, this is kind of a
- 4:23Speaker 3: fun job, but then it got serious after that, of course.
- 4:26Speaker 3: I was actually, it was between my graduating high school
- 4:33Speaker 3: and then shortly thereafter, I went part-time and worked, going
- 4:37Speaker 3: to school and got my bachelor's science in the, 76
- 4:42Speaker 3: but up until that point it was it was part-time
- 4:45Speaker 3: and then uh came on full-time and and did a
- 4:49Speaker 3: few things different divisions and uh well here i am today.
- 4:54Speaker 2: It's a great journey and 54 years is almost unfathomable
- 4:59Speaker 2: from a career perspective today because people are going here
- 5:02Speaker 2: and there and too busy and they don't have any
- 5:04Speaker 2: stickiness so to.
- 5:05Speaker 3: Speak any stickiness yeah i've got Five kids and four
- 5:10Speaker 3: grandkids sticking us. I remember times- Congratulations. Great kids. I
- 5:15Speaker 3: remember in this pavilion, we had a pay phone down
- 5:18Speaker 3: at that end, a pay phone down at that end
- 5:20Speaker 3: when my wife was pregnant, going into childbirth. Anytime I'd
- 5:26Speaker 3: hear the phone ring, I'd just think, which one is it,
- 5:28Speaker 3: this one or this one? Make a bad dad. She
- 5:30Speaker 3: had the decency to wake about three days after I
- 5:32Speaker 3: got home.
- 5:34Speaker 2: Where was, and home was Austin.
- 5:36Speaker 3: Austin.
- 5:36Speaker 2: So you were three, good three hours away from Exactly.
- 5:40Speaker 2: Which baby was that?
- 5:41Speaker 3: That was my number two baby.
- 5:43Speaker 2: Number two baby.
- 5:43Speaker 3: I've got a boy, three girls, and a boy. We
- 5:47Speaker 3: call the boys the bookends. That's cool. So this is
- 5:52Speaker 3: the Go Texan Pavilion. And if I may just tell
- 5:55Speaker 3: you a real quick side story. Back in 2001, Susan
- 6:01Speaker 3: Combs came in. She was elected. And she and our
- 6:04Speaker 3: marketing director, they started the Go Texan program. We had
- 6:08Speaker 3: a big. opening down in the Capitol, in the basement annex.
- 6:14Speaker 3: Nolan Rye was there, George W. Bush, Rick Perry, Lieutenant
- 6:19Speaker 3: Governor Vim. It was a big deal. But we started
- 6:22Speaker 3: our GoTexan store, first GoTexan store, like up front there.
- 6:25Speaker 3: It was right against this back wall. It was a
- 6:28Speaker 3: little 36 by 36. And I said, this is not
- 6:31Speaker 3: going to work. People are not going to want to
- 6:33Speaker 3: come to the State Fair of Texas, buy a bag
- 6:35Speaker 3: of groceries and carry them around on. That first year
- 6:39Speaker 3: we sold $ 120, 000 worth of merchandise out of the store.
- 6:43Speaker 3: We had people running the store and everything. And Susan
- 6:48Speaker 3: Combs and our marketing director, Delane Sayers, wrote me a
- 6:50Speaker 3: handwritten note, said, Bob, if you build it, they will come.
- 6:57Speaker 3: Filled a dream. And they've been coming more and more
- 7:01Speaker 3: every year.
- 7:02Speaker 2: And it means so much. I'm a native Texan from Sherman.
- 7:06Speaker 2: It means personally so much because it's about us and it's,
- 7:12Speaker 2: we're farmers and what do we grow and what do
- 7:15Speaker 2: we produce? And I wonder where you, where do you
- 7:18Speaker 2: think the brand is with today with the next generation?
- 7:21Speaker 2: What does it mean to them?
- 7:22Speaker 3: Well, I hope it means something very significant.
- 7:26Speaker 2: Me too.
- 7:29Speaker 3: Things have changed over the years. Getting out of the,
- 7:33Speaker 3: the family farm, And back in the big industry, which
- 7:38Speaker 3: is not a bad thing, but I think the family farm,
- 7:41Speaker 3: family ranches, it meant a whole lot to people, to
- 7:45Speaker 3: young people. Not necessarily involved them, but just hearing about
- 7:48Speaker 3: the stories and things like that. In my experience, I
- 7:52Speaker 3: could be wrong, but that's just kind of diminished somewhat
- 7:55Speaker 3: throughout the years.
- 7:57Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. I wonder if people, a
- 8:01Speaker 2: lot of the people moving into the state, if they
- 8:03Speaker 2: have any idea about what goes into the name Go Texan.
- 8:08Speaker 2: And you were raised in Texas, right? All my life. Okay,
- 8:15Speaker 2: so 1961, 62, first grade. We learned, this was public schools,
- 8:21Speaker 2: we did a Pledge of Allegiance, the Lord's Prayer, Texas,
- 8:25Speaker 2: our Texas. First class of the day was Texas history.
- 8:30Speaker 2: I think I went six months before I knew that
- 8:32Speaker 2: George Washington existed because it was all Sam Houston. Davy Crockett,
- 8:38Speaker 2: all Texas history. That's all that mattered to our teacher.
- 8:41Speaker 2: And so we were just leading Texas with the history.
- 8:46Speaker 2: Was that your experience?
- 8:49Speaker 3: My experience was more on a national basis, George Washington,
- 8:53Speaker 3: the national history. Of course, we had a lot of
- 8:55Speaker 3: Texas history involved in that. But our heritage, I'm sixth
- 9:00Speaker 3: generation Texan. Are you really?
- 9:02Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. I'm only four.
- 9:06Speaker 3: My father, he died in 2003, and he was a
- 9:10Speaker 3: big attorney here in Texas. He was executive director of
- 9:13Speaker 3: the Commission on Judicial Conduct. Go out and investigate by
- 9:17Speaker 3: a judge, and I had the pleasure of flying, and
- 9:18Speaker 3: we had a small plane, and I'm a pilot. I
- 9:21Speaker 3: got to fly them all over the state for many years.
- 9:24Speaker 3: For 17 years, while I was working for the department here,
- 9:28Speaker 3: and I saw a lot of interesting things from him.
- 9:31Speaker 3: Prior to that, he was with the Attorney General's Office.
- 9:33Speaker 3: He's the one that went up and argued Roe v. Wade.
- 9:36Speaker 3: From the state of Texas. Good, great. Went up against
- 9:39Speaker 3: Sarah Weddington. That was October 11th, 1972. I was going
- 9:44Speaker 3: to Blinn College. He called me and said, hey, you
- 9:46Speaker 3: want to go to Washington, D.C.? See your old man
- 9:49Speaker 3: argue in Springport? And my wife and I, we weren't married,
- 9:53Speaker 3: We just met and everything. I didn't want to leave. And, uh, well,
- 9:58Speaker 3: I think I'll just stay here. I regret that decision
- 10:02Speaker 3: ever since. Could have been sitting right there. Oh my gosh.
- 10:06Speaker 2: So I got to ask you as a pilot, this is,
- 10:10Speaker 2: this is somewhat of a twisted question, but can you
- 10:14Speaker 2: share a with the people that'll be listening, what it's
- 10:17Speaker 2: like to be a pilot, to fly over something and
- 10:20Speaker 2: to have this bigger hawk's view or eagle's view of
- 10:24Speaker 2: the world.
- 10:26Speaker 3: There's nothing like it. There's nothing like it. You got
- 10:29Speaker 3: a front row seat and experience. Of course, as a pilot,
- 10:35Speaker 3: you're busy handling the aircraft, all the avionics, navigation, everything.
- 10:41Speaker 3: But it is just such an experience. Better person to
- 10:44Speaker 3: ask That would be my youngest son. He's 31 years old.
- 10:48Speaker 3: His name is Josh. And he's an aviation filmmaker. And
- 10:52Speaker 3: he has become pretty famous now. As a matter of fact,
- 11:00Speaker 3: they did a feature on him a while back. And
- 11:04Speaker 3: I guess he.
- 11:05Speaker 2: Got his influence from you because you took him up
- 11:08Speaker 2: first time. He did.
- 11:09Speaker 3: And my wife and I, for many, many years on
- 11:12Speaker 3: the side, did wedding videography. And I did all the
- 11:15Speaker 3: editing and filming, editing and everything. And he kind of
- 11:18Speaker 3: got that. He was a little bitty guy. And she
- 11:20Speaker 3: and I were still doing school plays where all our
- 11:24Speaker 3: kids went to school, their big drama department. But he
- 11:28Speaker 3: put the two together and skyrocketed. He's got a YouTube
- 11:31Speaker 3: channel called Aviation 101. And he's got north of 300,000
- 11:36Speaker 3: subscribers now. And Garmin's one of his big sponsors and
- 11:41Speaker 3: He and his fiance just built a brand new plane
- 11:43Speaker 3: and went to South Africa for 23 days. He's just
- 11:48Speaker 3: now releasing those films. And he and I- Congratulations, Daddy. Yeah. Yeah.
- 11:55Speaker 3: And he became an instrument instructor. He put me through
- 11:57Speaker 3: my instrument training, which is harder than getting a license, actually.
- 12:02Speaker 3: And because I never could afford it, never had time.
- 12:04Speaker 3: I was having all these kids. Yeah. So he put
- 12:07Speaker 3: me through that. But My oldest son, he does a
- 12:10Speaker 3: little bit of writing. My three daughters, they're locally in Austin.
- 12:17Speaker 3: I got four grandkids. People ask me something. Why did
- 12:21Speaker 3: you want five kids? I didn't know I wanted six.
- 12:27Speaker 3: Shut it down somewhere. Cap it off.
- 12:30Speaker 2: That's so funny. I love that. How you doing? This
- 12:34Speaker 2: is Bob Flowers. We're honoring him on a podcast called
- 12:39Speaker 2: That's it.
- 12:44Speaker 3: Excellent.
- 12:46Speaker 2: So back to you, 54 years is something that's, if
- 12:51Speaker 2: you were to write a book on all of that history,
- 12:56Speaker 2: what title might you choose for that book?
- 13:00Speaker 3: Well, are you talking about my connection with the department
- 13:03Speaker 3: and this building?
- 13:05Speaker 2: I was just, just, I would say, because if you
- 13:08Speaker 2: were writing a memoir, it would be obviously about this,
- 13:12Speaker 2: but about being a pilot. What do you call your book?
- 13:17Speaker 3: Oh, that's a very good question. What would I call
- 13:19Speaker 3: the book? I would have to say how my wife,
- 13:29Speaker 3: the wife that encouraged me and put me through it all.
- 13:34Speaker 3: I mean, not financially or anything, but just anything I
- 13:37Speaker 3: want to do or my son flying everything, you know, well,
- 13:41Speaker 3: let's do it. Go for it. Let's do it. And
- 13:43Speaker 3: she just, just, uh, go for it. Yeah.
- 13:46Speaker 2: Hmm.
- 13:48Speaker 3: That's beautiful. She, she was, you know, just the, the,
- 13:51Speaker 3: our rock. Okay.
- 13:56Speaker 2: Um, and what is her name?
- 13:58Speaker 3: Lydia. Lydia. Yeah. Is she going to be here? She
- 14:01Speaker 3: is not. She's, uh, taking care of grandkids in Austin. Uh, she's, she's,
- 14:06Speaker 3: Counting the days when I'll get back, which will be tomorrow. Oh, excellent.
- 14:10Speaker 3: And she's a beautiful lady. She was a beauty queen
- 14:15Speaker 3: back in high school, and she's still the prettiest woman
- 14:19Speaker 3: I ever see.
- 14:21Speaker 2: What an honor and tribute to her.
- 14:24Speaker 3: Absolutely.
- 14:25Speaker 2: We'll send you the link to this show so she
- 14:29Speaker 2: can play it on her good and bad days.
- 14:31Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd really love that. Yeah, that would be fun.
- 14:33Speaker 3: I'll get a big check out of that. When I
- 14:36Speaker 3: leave here and next week, a week from today, we're
- 14:40Speaker 3: loading up the car with her sister and husband, our
- 14:43Speaker 3: brother and sister-in-law, and going to Kentucky, where my youngest son,
- 14:46Speaker 3: the pilot, he and his fiance have a big cap
- 14:49Speaker 3: on 10 acres up in Kentucky. We're going to go
- 14:52Speaker 3: to the races up in Lexington. We went up there
- 14:55Speaker 3: back in May, the Kentucky Derby Turtel Downs. It was
- 14:59Speaker 3: my sister-in-law's bucket list. Oh, my. We all went up there.
- 15:03Speaker 3: And I said, yeah. Horse race, well, I'll go for
- 15:06Speaker 3: the trip. I loved it. I had more fun than anybody.
- 15:10Speaker 3: So we're going to go do that again before I
- 15:12Speaker 3: have to come back here.
- 15:13Speaker 2: And tear down, yeah. There's a beginning and an end
- 15:17Speaker 2: to this.
- 15:17Speaker 3: There is a beginning and an end.
- 15:19Speaker 2: It's amazing. Okay, so now I know why you needed
- 15:25Speaker 2: to be, should be, and deserve to be honored, because
- 15:28Speaker 2: it is beyond comprehension about five decades. And I'll Go ahead.
- 15:34Speaker 3: I just want to ask you a question. I've asked
- 15:35Speaker 3: many people. What sounds more dignified? 54 years, five decades plus,
- 15:46Speaker 3: or a little over half a century?
- 15:49Speaker 2: It's a good question. I would say, because I'm 70,
- 15:53Speaker 2: I like the half a century.
- 15:55Speaker 3: You're just a puppy. Thank you, Bob.
- 15:59Speaker 2: That would be great. Okay, final question for you is this.
- 16:04Speaker 2: Our program is always about people becoming something. And I'd
- 16:09Speaker 2: love for you to say, share this with you. If
- 16:13Speaker 2: you were 90 years old and your grandchildren are at
- 16:16Speaker 2: your feet and they say, Grandpa, Papa, who did you become?
- 16:22Speaker 2: How would you answer that?
- 16:23Speaker 3: Oh, gosh, I guess I'd have to say doing my
- 16:28Speaker 3: best to become a good father to the kids and
- 16:33Speaker 3: give them what they needed to go through life and
- 16:36Speaker 3: support my family the best I can. I think anything material,
- 16:41Speaker 3: you can't ask for anything more than that, in my opinion.
- 16:45Speaker 2: That's powerful.
- 16:46Speaker 3: And I think I'm on my way there.
- 16:47Speaker 2: I think you are well on your way. We want
- 16:50Speaker 2: to present you with this book, Fruly Significant. And I
- 16:54Speaker 2: wrote in here to TDA's very significant bar flowers. And
- 17:00Speaker 2: in the back is a A chapter on our friend
- 17:07Speaker 2: Susan and his wife.
- 17:08Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 17:09Speaker 2: Little known story about his wife. And so it's mostly
- 17:12Speaker 2: about her. But thank you for everything that you've done.
- 17:16Speaker 2: And it's an honor to have you.
- 17:18Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
- 17:19Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 17:20Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Yes, sir.
- 17:21Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
- 17:43Speaker 1: Big hearted Texans found across our state. Pride is how
- 17:50Speaker 1: we're looking.
- 17:51Speaker 3: Risk it is on our plate.
- 17:53Speaker 1: Boots, it's what we're wearing.
- 17:56Speaker 3: Horses, yeah, we may ride.
- 17:58Speaker 1: Farming is so rewarding.