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- 1:40another episode of the Crew Podcast, Episode one hundred in twenty four. I
- 1:47want to thank you guys for tuning in tonight. I'll tell you I have
- 1:51a special treat for you on tonight as we celebrate and bring awareness to soucide
- 1:57preventions. This is the month that we bring awareness to suicide prevention. But
- 2:01those that follow me and support the things that I know that I do,
- 2:06know that this is something I do twenty four seven, three hundred and sixty
- 2:08five days because I am a suicide attempt survivor and I truly believe that awareness
- 2:17need to be brought to this subject because guess what we do. What's done
- 2:22in this house, stay in this house, and it's a stigma in the
- 2:23Brown community. But we're gonna break that stigma on tonight. We're gonna break
- 2:29that stigma where we gotta pray about everything and step a little all on it.
- 2:31We're gonna We're breaking all that tonight. I have some amazing guests that
- 2:36are gonna be sharing with you guys tonight. I tell you they walk in
- 2:38different lanes, they operate in different fields, but I'm excited to be able
- 2:45to share them with you on tonight. I'm gonna bring them up individually and
- 2:50allow them to introduce themselves, and we're gonna start with Miss Russell. Hey
- 2:55there, Thank you so much, Miss Angela for having me on the show.
- 3:00My name is Stan Trees Russell. I am a licensed professional counselor in
- 3:02the State of Georgia in Texas, and I'm also a Certified Professional Counselor supervisor
- 3:07as well as a National Board Certified therapist. And I also host a podcast
- 3:13called the Selfware and ft Up Podcast, which focuses on taboo topics and mental
- 3:16health. I've been in a health and profession about eighteen years. I did
- 3:20a good amount of time of working directly in the hospital setting where individuals were
- 3:24coming into the hospital actually after experiencing suicide attempts and in assessing them and ensure
- 3:30that they got to the appropriate place. And for the last seven years I've
- 3:32actually been working for a national crisis line where we take income and calls from
- 3:38our veteran and military callers as well as JUSTUS callers civilian callers who are experiencing
- 3:43suicidal audiation and need additional support. And so I've been in the field for
- 3:47quite some time, and I've also had personal struggles around suicidal thoughts and things
- 3:52of that. So I'm definitely looking forward to just, you know, engaging
- 3:54in dialogue with you guys tonight and really just being able to bring awareness because
- 3:59we don't talk about it enough within our community. And I really really love
- 4:02what you are doing with this, So thank you so much. Well,
- 4:06thank you, and welcome, Welcome, Welcome. We gotta bring up myth
- 4:11Dominique. Hi everyone, my name is Sminy Carson. I am a freelance
- 4:16journalist and author, a speaker, but most importantly, I am a licensed
- 4:20massage practitioner. I've been a massage practitioner for four years. I completed my
- 4:26education in New York City. That's where I'm from, and that's why I
- 4:30completed my previous education as well. The reason why I decided to be a
- 4:33part of this program on this podcast tonight because it kind of hits home.
- 4:40I lost one of my dear classmates to suicide in two thousand and ten.
- 4:45He was nineteen, he just graduated from high school a year ago, and
- 4:47from that point on, I wanted to raise awareness and then from a journalist
- 4:51perspective, interviewing so many different artists and how they're Some have succumbed lost their
- 4:58lives to suicide, including one of my favorite soul singers of all time,
- 5:01Phyllis Hyman, And I just think that if they had the resources that they
- 5:06had then now, maybe a lot of situations would be different. So I
- 5:11just feel like I just want to use my voice and my artistry as a
- 5:14journalist and now as a massage friction practitioner to raise awareness about this's going issue
- 5:21in our community, advocacy about wearing as semi colon, to show that your
- 5:27life doesn't have to, you know, have a period, It can go
- 5:30on and on, and now if I can be a vessel to encourage that,
- 5:33why not. Awesome, awesome, Well, welcome, welcome, Thank
- 5:40you for joining us, Miss Jones. Oh hey, thank you right,
- 5:47welcome, welcome. I was coming a little bit of something. Hey,
- 5:51everybody, thank you so much for having me. Thank you, Queen Angela,
- 5:55thank you to the guests who went before. So, Hey, I'm
- 5:59Steph or Lilac Calandra. I am a marriage and family therapist, I'm a
- 6:03minister, i am a mindfulness life coach, and I really believe I've been
- 6:09put on this earth to help people get back to the best versions of themselves.
- 6:13Right. I got into the field because I was born and raised in
- 6:16the church, and I recognize that there's so much untreated trauma in the church
- 6:20that someone who's in the church has to go out get their credentials, go
- 6:26to school, and then come back and speak the language of the church so
- 6:29that those who are hurt, those who have been cast down, beat down,
- 6:32down trodden, forgotten about, traumatized, can start to heal. And
- 6:38we don't talk about the taboo things in our community. As you were saying
- 6:41in the opening credits, Queen, we don't talk about it enough. We
- 6:45are here to rip the covers off of suicide. We're here to expose it,
- 6:48shine the light on it, take away the shame, the guilt and
- 6:53embarrassment. We had to meditate do it, we had to pray through it.
- 6:56We're here to just sit and breathe through it and let people know they
- 6:59were all in this together. I had no suicide attempts. I had many
- 7:02suicidal ideations when my parents got divorced and I was eleven going on twelve.
- 7:06So this also hits home for me. I work right now in high school
- 7:12and we know that youth suicide rates are on the rise. I have been
- 7:16planted there by Abayah himself to help these students make sure that they are going
- 7:23to live. The goal is to live, and anyone listening, we want
- 7:27you here. You matter. I love Dominic that you mentioned the semi coolin
- 7:30your life doesn't have a period, but there's more to your story where we
- 7:33love you and we want you here. So thank you so much for having
- 7:35me. I really appreciate you. Thank you and welcome. Welcome, mister
- 7:43Larry, Welcome, greetings, greeting, greetings. How's everybody doing. I'm
- 7:49Larry Pinton. Everybody calls the coop for sure. I am a retired paramidic
- 7:55firefighter or fire midic. I'm CEO also of a comic called Penton Ending Consultant
- 8:00Solutions LLC. I do a number of things post and pre retirements. So
- 8:07I was in MS and fire from O six to the twenties twenty i retired
- 8:11as a COVID medic and I'm from Singles, Missouri. We relocated to Charlotte,
- 8:16North Carolina, and a year later I started this consultant firm. A
- 8:22lot of what we did initially was virtual assistant type work, and because I
- 8:26still had my license and all my certifications, I was getting pulled in as
- 8:31a subject matter expert on public health, public safety, gun safety issues,
- 8:35nothing with the politics or the two ay or the second amendments. So I'm
- 8:41also a certified BLS instructor or, teach first aid and CPR, teach at
- 8:48conshooter hogs Stool events or at a shooter issues drills, consultation Stoppable, and
- 8:54a number of other things. I'm also a podcast I have a show called
- 8:58Trigger Warning Talk podcasts all four Words, streaming on all the major platforms and
- 9:05you can watch them on Spotify as well as our YouTube channel, which is
- 9:07a company name, and we cover five areas on the podcasts, talk about
- 9:13domestic violence, human and sex trafficking, sexually based offenses, true crime,
- 9:18and at the end of every episode we cover a missing person case, ninety
- 9:22nine percent of those for Melionated Folks. Because we wanted to bring the same
- 9:26energy in media coverage to those missing individuals. There's no other podcasts podcast Land
- 9:33that's run by a man who's the first responder, who is covering all five
- 9:37of those topics in one podcast. It's uncensored conversations. We exchange information,
- 9:43and we provide a bunch of resources in every episode for all the viewers,
- 9:48end listeners. We're going to have a great conversation tonight. Let's go.
- 9:54Amen Amen. Well, I definitely thank you guys for taking time out of
- 10:00your schedule to join us and to help us bring awareness to suicide. Like
- 10:05I mentioned in the beginning, I am a suicide attempt survivor. I tempted
- 10:09suicide so many times, and it was a dark place in my life.
- 10:15You think I lost my mom twelve days after my sixteenth birthday. My dad
- 10:20wasn't really in my life. At the point in time when I thought that
- 10:24he would really step up and be a part of my life, he walked
- 10:26away. So I dealt with a lot of abandonment issues, a lot of
- 10:31things that I didn't know what I was dealing with it, Like I didn't
- 10:35know that I was dealing with PTSD and depression for over fifteen years, years
- 10:39until I went through domestic violence, and that's when all of this stuff come
- 10:45up. But I see so many people so often in the back when it
- 10:50was backstage, I heard someone talking about individuals can be smiling, they can
- 10:56be happy, they don't There's not a particular thing where people gonna wake up
- 11:01and say I'm gonna kill myself today. That because I've had that happened in
- 11:05my family. I had a fifteen year old, but she wasn't even fifteen
- 11:11yet, she would have been fifteen. She committed suicide the day before Mother's
- 11:15Day that Friday. They had been last been joking, having a very good
- 11:20family event. You never would have thought that this was gonna take place on
- 11:24Saturday. So I just want to break through some of the stigmas that you
- 11:31know, run around in our community, like people don't want us to talk
- 11:37about things that are bothering us. We'll go on in this homestead, stay
- 11:41in this home, and be strong. That that that's what I was told
- 11:48for so long. What if I strong? What what if I what what
- 11:54if I don't want to be strong? What do I do if I don't
- 12:00want to be strong? Because that may be somebody out there today because I'm
- 12:03not a professional, and I'm so glad that we have all these professionals here
- 12:09because I want to know what do I do if I don't want to be
- 12:13strong? Because I'm sure there's some people out there that want to know this,
- 12:16that are putting on these we put on these masks. We're putting on
- 12:20these masks, and we need to take these masks offs. We want people
- 12:24to know our true our true identity. So how can I not strong?
- 12:30Who who wanna? Who want to tackle that? I just want to be
- 12:33free and I don't want to be strorong. I want to be able to
- 12:37cry if I need to cry, and not be labeled as weak. And
- 12:41so y'all talk to who who want to talk? I'll jump Oh, thank
- 12:48you, brother, Larry, You're the bomb. I'll jump on it really
- 12:52quick. Then the pastor Mike. What I realize is, especially in the
- 12:56black asper right, our strength has been weaponized again us. We're so strong
- 13:03and everyone sees us as strong. We're so strong that when we get into
- 13:05the doctor's office, they think we don't need the same one what a medicine
- 13:09as anyone else. So they think that we don't need to stay in the
- 13:11hospital as long as anyone else. Because we're so strong, right, our
- 13:16strength, our resilience is now a weapon that is used to attack us.
- 13:20Really, I don't want to be strong anymore if it means that I can't
- 13:24get help, if it means that someone's not going to ask me what's wrong.
- 13:28You see the signs or you see the sayings, check on your strong
- 13:31friend. Why do we have to do that? Because everyone that gets about
- 13:33the strong person. Strong people need help too. You can it's an end.
- 13:39It's not a butt, or it's not an or, it's an end,
- 13:41it's a boat. I can be strong, we can be strong,
- 13:45but we can also need a ton of help. It's those who are are
- 13:50looking weak or presenting weak or maybe victim mindset who get all the help.
- 13:54That's not fair. You can be tough, you can be strong. It's
- 13:58also so important to be vocal about what we're going through right, finding that
- 14:03absolutely, Latanya, we're so strong that people assume we can handle everything as
- 14:07the people. We need to stop assuming that. If we see someone who's
- 14:13exhibiting strength and being strong and they're always able to smile and go through,
- 14:18still check on them, right, Still make sure that they're okay because we
- 14:22hide a lot of things, right, we put on the facade and the
- 14:26mask. I also want to say to the strong people, and from one
- 14:28strong person to everyone else who's strong too, it's okay to be vulnerable.
- 14:35It is okay to find your safe space and be vulnerable. We can't get
- 14:39mad at people who don't know what we have going on where we keep everything
- 14:43closed in like a volte Find your safe space, find your people and share
- 14:50and let go and release. Be careful who you share with, right,
- 14:54if you don't ignore the feelings inside you know, if you shouldn't be sharing
- 14:58with someone, but keep keeping everything inside makes us so vulnerable to suicide,
- 15:05of ideations, to all manners of attacks and mental illness. Share be vulnerable,
- 15:11and those who see strong people still check on them, even if they're
- 15:13annoyed. I don't need help inside, they're like, oh, I'm so
- 15:18grateful. So if we're all in this together, it's pouring into each other's
- 15:22cups. That's what's gonna do it. I agree with you one hundred percent.
- 15:26Stuff. I think we need to change the narrative that vulnerability is a
- 15:31form of strength, right, like when you're tearing that's cleansing, that's letting
- 15:35go, that stuff being released, and I can I can you agree to
- 15:39what you were saying. Coming from such an urbanized background in East New York,
- 15:45Brooklyn and being around so many alpha women in my life, from my
- 15:50mother's and my grandmother, I think, and I've had a very close relationship
- 15:54with my grandmother. I think in the last twenty three years of my life
- 15:56before she passed, I've only seen her cry four times. And that's that
- 16:03means she held a lot of stuff in because you taught from the school you
- 16:08gotta be strong, you gotta be tough. I don't want nobody seeing me
- 16:11with my pants hanging down. People take advantage of your vulnerability, and that's
- 16:15when you have to say, be mindful who you tell your business to,
- 16:21or be mindful who you could be vulnerable with. But that's when your faith
- 16:25and your strength will come in and that discernment will give you the opportunity to
- 16:29determine which people should you have in your space, should you have in your
- 16:33circle. A lot of those things have to be evaluated along with you being
- 16:38vulnerable. But we have to change the narrative and a lot of and sometimes
- 16:44that's very difficult when you're coming from a particular upbringing. But that doesn't necessarily
- 16:48mean that it's not possible. But that's coming to terms, and that's what
- 16:52we were talking about in the break, that your mindset has to change,
- 16:59and that could be a very weak mindset, because what's the point of me
- 17:03being strong if my life is at stake, if my mental health is at
- 17:07stake. That's I don't think God will want us to be strong and not
- 17:12express our emotions, not express our vulnerability, just saying that you're human and
- 17:18that is okay, but don't have stuff bottle in because you're going it's a
- 17:23matter of time before it just falls apart, and that's not what you would
- 17:27want. So I definitely agree that the narrative has to change. Yeah,
- 17:34and we really have to do a better job just overall in our community of
- 17:38just being open to talking about the stuff that goes on behind closed doors,
- 17:42because you know, I see the comment here. You know there's so many
- 17:45things hidden behind the smile, And I know for me personally, I'm hidden
- 17:49so much behind my smile and gone through rough periods of dealing with suicidal thoughts
- 17:55and still having to work with people who were also dealing with those sort of
- 17:59things in their lives, and so it's just it's really important that you know
- 18:03that you don't hide behind that smile and reach out to your support system.
- 18:07It needs to be the right support system to your point, but at the
- 18:10same time, you have to have people in your corner that you feel safe
- 18:12enough to say, Hey, you know what, I'm not okay today,
- 18:17I'm not okay right now and I need some extra support. I might need
- 18:21you to check on me a little bit more often because I don't want to
- 18:22be strong right now. I need that extra support. So I think it's
- 18:27taking off the mask, as you said earlier, but it's also being able
- 18:32to know that even when you're by yourself in those low moments, that you
- 18:36can't do this by yourself. We are community based people and we need our
- 18:40tribe in order for us to be able to move through life a little bit
- 18:42more smoothly. Yeah. Sometimes I used to tell people that with my experience
- 18:57being on the front line as a responder, I would tell them there's three
- 19:02things that always bothered me about my job. One, I always had a
- 19:08fear that whenever we got a nine one one call, who gets suited in
- 19:12the booted lights and sirens we show up on seeing My biggest fear Number one
- 19:18was always encountering patient because you don't get a patient's information encountering patient into somebody
- 19:26that I know. The other thing was I always told missus LP that I
- 19:33want to come back home the same way I went to work, healthy,
- 19:37having hope. I can't guarantee that that's going to happen because of the nature
- 19:41of the beast as I call it, the job. And the third thing
- 19:45is for me personally dealing with suicide, because take away the badge, take
- 19:55away the licenses and the certifications and all the training and stuff. I'm just
- 20:00a person. At the end of the day when missus LP, I get
- 20:06home for my forty eight hours fire shield, you know, and she's telling
- 20:11me about how her last two days where she's a project manager for a big
- 20:15company, and she's telling me about all of these people, not me,
- 20:18the deadlines, and she got all these exhales, spreads, she's doing all
- 20:22this sequel stuff and all these different things that are exciting. And then she
- 20:26asked me how it was your day or I gotta tell her, you know,
- 20:30I may not have been able to resistitate one of these swings that were
- 20:34just born. And we worked on that baby for and I trigger one.
- 20:40You know, I had a kid who had suicidal autigation and he was successful.
- 20:47Because when it comes to suicide, I tell you there's only two one
- 20:49or two things. Either day you find them in time or I'm pronouncing there's
- 20:56home with a brand. Wow, just black and white, yeah, cut
- 21:00and dry. And the other thing is and I'm glad that you said this
- 21:04needs down me men seventy to eighty percent of suicides or committed by me or
- 21:11those that identify as men, no, no disrespect to anybody, seventy to
- 21:18eighty percent. We gotta deal with this stuff head on, no more burying
- 21:23head in the sin. It doesn't happen, Me doesn't, union doesn't happen,
- 21:29neighborhood doesn't happen, mind or whatever. We all got something ship and
- 21:33we're gonna talk about yea. So how do we get people to really talk
- 21:45about it? Because you oftentime will hear people say, well, pray about
- 21:52it. How how do you convince people that therapy is needed? Seeing out
- 21:57the psychiatrist, Because I'm gonna tell y'all, I mean, the first person
- 22:00to tell you that I don't mind laying on somebody's couch because I've seen a
- 22:04psychiatrist. I had a psychiatrist, and I had two therapists at one time,
- 22:10so I knew I needed help because it got to a point to where
- 22:15I just couldn't y'all. Didn't want to get up out in the bed.
- 22:18I didn't wanna face anything. But see, some people don't realize that,
- 22:25you know, I can't do this along. They think that everything is on
- 22:27them, that they that they don't have nobody. So how did y'all,
- 22:30How can y'all get that out to people that hey, it's okay, get
- 22:38get this, get this therapist, well my therapist at my therapist. I
- 22:45mean, I think I need to make a plea to the people today it
- 22:48got you. I mean, I think the first thing is really just recognizing
- 22:52that you need help. I mean, like, if you're at that point
- 22:56where you're laying in there all the time and you're not wanting to get up,
- 22:59You're not want to eat each shower, take care of yourselves, do
- 23:00those basic ADLs, and you are at that point of hopelessness and you don't
- 23:06really see a reason to keep going, And I see someone's message saying how
- 23:11do you share what people that like to talk about? What you share in
- 23:14confidence? I mean that's the perfect set way to go into therapy. What
- 23:18you talk about with your therapist is something that is confidential and it's a safe
- 23:21space. You know, there are some things you know that we have to
- 23:23share. As it relates to like if you do have an active plan means
- 23:27and intend to end your life, but as it relates to just being able
- 23:30to share and build those coping skills, that's something that you can get from
- 23:34a therapist and it's something that will stay with that therapist unless you are actively
- 23:38at risk of hurting yourself for someone else. And so if you see that
- 23:42you need that extra support and you don't have anybody else in your life that
- 23:47you feel like you can talk to, that's the perfect time for you to
- 23:49reach out and be able to connect with someone that can help you through that
- 23:53process of really exploring your feelings and really identifying, Okay, well, what
- 23:59is it that's causing these feelings of depression? What is it? Is it
- 24:02something long standing? Is it because of a life circumstances, Because there are
- 24:04a lot of different stages in terms of people who are contemplating suicide. Sometimes
- 24:08when you're in that pre stage, they may not be there, you may
- 24:11not be ready to get help. But if you're at that point where you
- 24:15really really feel like you're going to act on those thoughts, at that point,
- 24:19you know, you definitely want to connect with a therapist, but you
- 24:22definitely if it's something right there in the moment, real time, you want
- 24:26to reach out to something like nine eight eight and speak with a crisis responder
- 24:30at EIRE, at your in your local state, and you want to be
- 24:33able to connect with someone that can walk you through that moment in the present
- 24:37moment, so that you're not acting on those suicidal thoughts. I agree with
- 24:42you one hundred percent. I think in order for you to come to terms
- 24:47that you need how it has to be identified, Like you have to get
- 24:51take a good look at yourself and say, hey, this whatever I'm doing,
- 24:55whatever I'm trying to manage, obviously this is not working. So they
- 25:00therefore I need to go to a higher source. And I think for people
- 25:03you know who are so such driven in their faith, I strongly believe God
- 25:07sends people in your life to get the job done like he has arrangers to
- 25:14help you, to assist you to get that done, so there's no need
- 25:18to be biased. But that all goes back to what you've been taught.
- 25:22But an old dog can learn new tricks. And part of the process is
- 25:27reaching out to somebody that specializes in certain things that you have, you know,
- 25:33trouble with. It may be a time in your life where it's trauma,
- 25:36whereas the workplace where it's just a lot of things that are not being
- 25:40dealt with, just bottled up. So if a therapist can help you channel
- 25:45through all that, it's like it's like peeling an onion. And that's what
- 25:48all therapy is is you're peeling your onion. You're getting to the root of
- 25:52what was going on that you thought you may handle twenty years ago, thirty
- 25:56years ago, five years ago. And I think that we need to encourage
- 26:00our men to have that same mindset as well, because you know, a
- 26:06lot of us, you know, grew up in household Like a man is
- 26:08not supposed to cry, that's a form of weakness. No, the same
- 26:12rules and the same methods need to be applied towards men. And I think
- 26:17you know, women, whether you are made to somebody or close with a
- 26:21you know particular men encourage that as well, like you know, be an
- 26:26aid to a man because they have their own struggles. Societal struggles alone can
- 26:30prop a man to have suicidal thoughts to go into that lane. But I
- 26:37think of men get more encouragement to seek therapy, to seek a minister,
- 26:41to seek a pasta. Everything would be you know, worthwhile, But you
- 26:45have to make the step. No one is going to do it for you.
- 26:49So you have to come to terms and say, hey, I might
- 26:53a verge of doing something that is not healthy, and I have to get
- 26:56to a point like maybe I need to seek a sessional help, maybe I
- 27:00need to take it at a higher level to save my life. Absolutely,
- 27:06I really just echo all the words and sentiments that have already been shared.
- 27:10I mean, you know, Dominique, I like that you mentioned the onion.
- 27:12Right when you peel the onion, you're peeling it back, it makes
- 27:15you cry. So there will be emotions that are there. There's always going
- 27:19to be something that comes up when I get into sessions with clients, right
- 27:25and after we've had our first session or maybe the first couple of sessions that
- 27:27I always like, I wish I had done this sooner, right, I
- 27:33see the head nods, right, I wish I had done this sooner.
- 27:37Sometimes we build up this whole scenario in our head. They're gonna know all
- 27:41my secrets, They're gonna share my secrets. They're gonna say this, they're
- 27:45gonna say that. Here's the reality. And as my fellow therapist said,
- 27:49we cannot share. We abound by law and by we cannot share what has
- 27:55been what has been said in our sessions. It is the best thing to
- 27:59talk to someone you really don't know. You can tell at all, you
- 28:03know what I mean. It's different biased, non biased. It's different than
- 28:07talking to someone who's your mother, your sister, your cousin. There's certain
- 28:11little restraints, little filters that you put in your mouth when you talk to
- 28:15someone you don't know. It's like blood, you just share. Right.
- 28:18And here's the thing too, especially me being in ministry, I really have
- 28:23become the keeper for shepherds, pastors and those who are in ministry. Right.
- 28:32There are so many pastors who commit suicide or leave leave their jobs,
- 28:37leave their pastoral ship on Monday, the monday after they preach, right,
- 28:41because the stress and the pressure is too much again. No one wakes up
- 28:48and says today I think is the day. No, no, no,
- 28:49there's a seed that's been planted, and before we try to recording, there's
- 28:53a seed that's been planted. When you talk about a suicide of ideation,
- 28:57it is the idea that has been planted. And you talk to any farmer,
- 29:02you usually want to see that's in the ground, right, it's in
- 29:04a dark space. But with suicide you don't because in the darkness it festers
- 29:11and it grows and it turns into this big thing. So it's so important.
- 29:15My thing is awareness. When I pull into mindfulness, aware, be
- 29:19aware of the things that you're going through. Something's happening. You're not having
- 29:23good relationships. I don't mean romantic relationships. I mean you're having issues with
- 29:27your mom, with your dad. On your job, you're switching jobs every
- 29:30year. There's things going on. Recognize the patterns that are inside of yourself.
- 29:34The awareness is key. Recognize how you're feeling. Right. Do you
- 29:38want to get out of bed? No? Is your room very dark?
- 29:41When someone calls hey, you want to hang out? Oh? No,
- 29:44you just want to stay by yourself. All those things are leading up to
- 29:48potential suicide attempts definite suicidal ideations because it works best in isolated spaces, when
- 29:56you're around no one, when you just have your thoughts. This is an
- 29:59echo chamber. I need everyone on this panel to challenge my thoughts. Hey,
- 30:03Steph, hold on a minute. Wait, that's not making sense.
- 30:06When it's just by ourselves, we can let ourselves slip into something. So
- 30:11the push and the advocacy for therapy is because you're important and you matter,
- 30:15and what you say matters. Your voice might have been silenced as a child.
- 30:22What's the toxic thing that was said? Children are best seen and not
- 30:26heard. How many have us been silenced by that? Right? Your voice
- 30:30matters. What you have to say, Your feelings matter. Last thing I'll
- 30:33say. Then I passed the mic. When I talk to my clients,
- 30:36I say this. Feelings are like jealous lovers. If you do not pay
- 30:40them enough attention, they will pop up in places that you don't want them
- 30:44to. They will show up in spaces that you would rather they not be.
- 30:47You ever try to ignore jealous lover. They pop up at the movies.
- 30:49There behind the bush. We show that we're paying attention to our feelings.
- 30:53That's number one, be aware of how you feel so that thing doesn't
- 30:57creep up on you and overtake you like a wave. That's the push for
- 31:00therapy. Find you a good therapist and you talk to them and you share
- 31:06because your life matters, right, Everything you have to say doesn't have to
- 31:08be kept in here. Let us spill out so that you can go on
- 31:11and have enough capacity to live another day. Ye I love educated black women.
- 31:19I'm telling you all or just the bomb dot com, and I highlight
- 31:25educated black women all the time because you're all the most disrespected people on the
- 31:29planet. So my flowers said, every one of your ladies, thank you
- 31:33all. Give me a great segue to just follow you. I'm just gonna
- 31:37add to what you all have said. Let me talk for the men,
- 31:41because you know, Tippy, I'm either the only guy or one of a
- 31:45few guys that come on these platforms they have these. I'm okay with it
- 31:49because I can talk to all of these guys, and I can talk to
- 31:53these other professions, especially the first responds. So one of the things I'm
- 32:00want to talk about is from the male perspective. Now, the men don't
- 32:04meet over my house every Wednesday night for cigars brain. However, and speak
- 32:10as a man when it comes to the effect of emotional suppression and how it
- 32:16plays a huge role not only in suicide but just mental health. I say,
- 32:23and this is my quote, mental health crisis is the world's oldest continuous
- 32:30pandemic that's been around since the beginning of man count And then they're going to
- 32:35work until we deal with the stigmas, the tables, the stereotypes, the
- 32:38pain, the drama, the judgment, all of those things. We're going
- 32:43to continue to see suicides, We're going to continue to see homicides. We're
- 32:49going to continue to see these violent, critical incidents that I get breaking news
- 32:52stories about every single day. We're at over almost five hundred for the year,
- 33:00and this is just almost mad September. You know, as the boy,
- 33:07I remember having male cousins that were older than me and other male relatives
- 33:14that were in my family that they solidified that thought about emotional supprisent. You
- 33:21know, I would getting good punched. Hey, you can't cry, you
- 33:23can't show emotions, you will siste you all these tropes stuff. I was
- 33:29told there were five reasons that it's okay for a male or the cry you
- 33:34want to know what they are. And I'm not gonna even until you need
- 33:36order because these were from various older men. You had to have a bone
- 33:40sticking out of your body, You had to be crushed between a couple of
- 33:44cars falling off of a multi story building. Have somebody had to have die
- 33:51or was dying you, or you had to maybe evil either one to lost
- 33:58a major sporting event. That's it. That's all. Anything else good punch,
- 34:06you're gonna get called names, You're gonna get just crucified. Basically,
- 34:12here's another thing that a buddy in mine. See, he gave a couple
- 34:15examples. I threw in on one just for Claire. He talked about Will
- 34:21Smith, preet slap. He talked about Tyrese Gibson. I threw in in
- 34:25Michael Jordan, Tyrese Gibson. Remember when he was on his ig and he
- 34:30was talking about the issues with the mother. His was crying and what happened
- 34:37this dominique? They made a crying saintrees Michael jeff Bard the goat as I
- 34:47caught. Look come at me if y'all I'm just saying, Michael Jeffery Jordan,
- 34:53I'll get to him. Will Smith prees slap the Enttainment episode on a
- 35:00Red Table talk, what happened Miss Saintrees? They made a crime out of
- 35:05him? Queen is Michael Jeffrey Jordian the night of his greatest to read on
- 35:13the on the night of his greatest career celebration when he was enshrined into the
- 35:17NBA Hall of Fame? What happened to Michael Jeffrey Jordian? Who made me
- 35:22out of him? You take all of those guys, wealthy celebrities famous.
- 35:30If they can make crime means out of those guys because they're sharing their emotions,
- 35:36help I get on some social media talking about my crack, Yeah,
- 35:40good, bad or indifferent. I don't want to be the blood of nobody
- 35:45joke. I don't want nobody making no mean amount of me. Me and
- 35:47will holding stuff in like it's just like me, and don't want to go
- 35:52to the hospital to they arm is hanging by a skin tag. You know,
- 35:58we just are trained and brought up and raised to hold everything in.
- 36:06It's that picture of apps. We got the world on our shoulder, and
- 36:10we carry that weight all the way until we're underneath that dirt on that earth
- 36:16that we're carrying on our shoulder. I'll even go farther than that. I
- 36:22used to do a room in this app talk clubhouse and we talked about me
- 36:27it's issues. We called him the barbershop talk. I always say, when
- 36:29men want to talk crack, to go to the bar, to the barbershop
- 36:31movement. So I said to them and I ran this room called speaks to
- 36:37us to brother speak journal because I'm part of this organization, and we talked
- 36:43about journaling, and I said to the guys, I said, look,
- 36:46journaling is not girls stuff. It's not a diary thing. You don't even
- 36:51have to write any every day. And for those men that are in opposition
- 36:54of it, and this is where the suicide stuff comes into play, because
- 36:59I said, you know, you have to get your emost because they're gonna
- 37:02come out one way again. You're gonna either implode and do something to yourself
- 37:07or you're gonna explode and it's gonna be again something that I get a call
- 37:12about in one of these breaking news stories. I'm a tacking the train MS
- 37:17person there, so when I see these stories all the time, you know
- 37:22what happens in an act of violent critical incident or actor shooting situation because everything
- 37:28doesn't involve a fire warm they just gets most attention. They look for the
- 37:31journals. We look for the journals, the paperwork. They're going to go
- 37:36to the houses with law enforcement, and we look for any evidence to figure
- 37:39out why this person did what they did. Most of the journals and the
- 37:44writings of these people either they were arrested or they were suicide by cop because
- 37:50they got into a shootout with the cops or whatever. Most of the time
- 37:52the letters they left say I didn't have anybody to tums, nobody to hear
- 38:00what I had to say, no careing about what I had to talk about.
- 38:05I get help. I wanted to get help. I needed help every
- 38:10single time. Almost now. There are some people who just want their fifteen
- 38:15minutes a fan and some people who really have some kid shoes. But for
- 38:21the most part, I'm telling him, when it comes to men, I'd
- 38:23say, get you a journal. I don't care what. I don't care
- 38:28if you got some post notes and crayons or something like that. You need
- 38:31to write down what's in here. If it was good enough for Tupac,
- 38:35you can't tell me your forward head, but it's too good for you because
- 38:38he wrote his raps, who did his journal, He did his raps and
- 38:43be a poetry and he did artwork in it. If it's good enough,
- 38:46Pop pleased to be upon his term soul for every more. You can't tell
- 38:51me it's too good enough for you. We gotta deal with these suicidal ideations
- 38:54before they become something that I gotta pronounce this person to see. Wow,
- 39:02wow, wow wow, I really I have really enjoyed this on tonight.
- 39:10I want people to be able to reach out to you guys and to connect
- 39:15with you guys, because I think that you guys are amazing. And again
- 39:20I have to thank you guys for stopping in and sharing with me on tonight
- 39:23because this is this is a conversation that we need to have in our Brown
- 39:28community. You know, we need to let down this this this this wall
- 39:32that we've built up, and we need to we need to heal. We
- 39:37need to allow ourselves to heal. And the only way we're gonna be able
- 39:39to do that is to stop allowing hinderance, stop walking with the ego and
- 39:45having the attitude and show how love that's that's that's how we're gonna be able
- 39:50to heal and how we stop all the hinderance and stop worrying about what the
- 39:53next person thinks, and you gotta find out you love you and love yourself
- 39:59a off to say if something that's going on, and if you don't have
- 40:04friends and family to help you, to seek out for professional help. Like
- 40:07they've made it that they're making it easy for you to get help now because
- 40:12you can pick up the phone and call nine eight eight and you can talk
- 40:15from a certified licensing person on the other end of the phone that can help
- 40:22you through. And if they recognize or feel like you need additional help,
- 40:27they will make that call and have someone come to that house. So in
- 40:34closing, I want everybody to be able to share how individuals can follow you,
- 40:39how they can reach out for your services if they need your services,
- 40:44because I often time there's people on here that just may need somebody to talk
- 40:47to. So we're gonna go around again and we're gonna start with Miss Russell's
- 40:54and give everybody an opportunity to connect with Tell everybody how they can connect with
- 41:01you. Okay, that you would like to share in closing that you may
- 41:08not have been able to share when it was your turn. You have the
- 41:12time to do that now, Yeah, I mean, I guess I would
- 41:15just share make sure that you connect with a good therapist if you're doing with
- 41:19something like this, and also, like you said, you know, reaching
- 41:22out to ninety eight if it is an emergent situation, he just needs someone
- 41:24to talk to, whether it's two pm or two am. That the line
- 41:28is always open in all of the states. If you hit ninety eight eight
- 41:30from your phone, it will connect you with the local crisis line in your
- 41:35area. So just making sure you connect with that. You can't connect with
- 41:38me on all social media platforms under the handle at tree d LPC. That's
- 41:44TikTok, i, g, Facebook, YouTube, all of that. Just
- 41:47at tree d LPC. You can look at me there. You can also
- 41:50visit the unique destiny dot org website and it's simply unique destiny dot org spilt
- 41:54the correct way and that's how can you reach My contact information is my LinkedIn
- 42:05full name, Dominique M. Carson, my portfolio Dominique Carson dot content Lee
- 42:09dot com, my Instagram dom Carson ninety, my massage Instagram, d Carson
- 42:15Lmt, and my Facebook, Facebook dot com slash DMC nine two two.
- 42:22I just want to say, just from a massage therapist perspective, relieve your
- 42:27stress, get into any form of medicine that's gonna help you reduce those suicidal
- 42:34thoughts because you're channeling those motions that are not that's being mismanaged in addition to
- 42:39the you know, in addition to the extensive therapy that you're getting. And
- 42:44I think that we have to get out of this mindset that, oh,
- 42:47I'm too proud, I don't want nobody up in my business. That's the
- 42:52greatest love that you're giving yourself is figuring out your issues, frging out how
- 42:55you could be a better version of yourself. And the first step to that
- 43:00is changing your mind. And I could say from a massage therapist, I
- 43:04deal with a number of people from all walks of life, from the early
- 43:07ages of fourteen to almost eighty plus, and a massage in an hour can
- 43:13relieve so much elements that's going on from a psychological standpoint. Some people just
- 43:20need a massage to feel appreciated. And that's why I love my profession because
- 43:25touch is such an innate desire that people have, and I think if we
- 43:30express that more more, those suicidal percentages can definitely go down because during a
- 43:37massage you inhibit a lot of those stress hormones and just releasing those endorphins and
- 43:42making you feel good and elevating your mood. So in addition to that,
- 43:45fine things that are the opposite of what you're feeling. I know some people
- 43:50have channeled it into from sports to boxing to I know for me, boxing
- 43:54definitely helps, especially as a stress reliever. So find something that will allow
- 44:00you to channel those emotions healthy and you know, strengthen your faith in addition
- 44:07to that as well. Yeah, absolutely, And I love the piece about
- 44:16massage therapy. Right, we talked about the sebbatic trauma that sometimes in our
- 44:21body, so that's so key. But finding me on social media is as
- 44:25simple as typing in Seila se la h mindset. That's the name of my
- 44:32business. It comes out of the Bible, out of the Book of Psalms
- 44:37Seila meaning we need to sit and contemplative reflection, that we don't move too
- 44:42quick, We don't move too fast when things happen to us. We don't
- 44:45have to just jump into everything. We can sit in a saila and it
- 44:49should be our mindset. We were always waiting a second before reacting right.
- 44:53And so when we're talking about what's going on and how we're feeling and things
- 44:58like that, gift your self the ability to be aware of how you're feeling.
- 45:02Gift yourself the ability to breathe right. Gift yourself the ability to meditate
- 45:08on the things that are above. We're gonna meditate no matter what. Meditation
- 45:13is just thinking on one thing over and over again. We always are thinking
- 45:15about something. We get to choose what we meditate on. And I want
- 45:20to say this from the bottom of my heart. You matter and we need
- 45:23you here. You belong right where you are right. No matter what you're
- 45:28going through. You might be in some tough stuff. Someone might have just
- 45:31disrespected you, betrayed you, you might have lost everything. We need you
- 45:36here. Find somebody who can help you. Dial that number nine eight eight.
- 45:40It's available to everyone. We need you right here where you are planted.
- 45:45You have a purpose, you have a gift, You have something to
- 45:47do in the earth. Your time has not been ended. If you need
- 45:52someone to talk to, please reach out on Sale a Mindset or any of
- 45:54our amazing panelists. But we want to connect with you. You have roots
- 45:59here on the earth. Your time is not done. Don't end up prematurely
- 46:02because you think no one's here for you. We're telling you, all of
- 46:05us here, we love you, we're here for you. If you're saying
- 46:08no one's here for me, five of us we are here for you,
- 46:12and there are accounts of others. You matter. Remain here, Remain planted,
- 46:15and connect with someone really grateful to be here. And I hope these
- 46:22you know, these conversations continue right on other platforms. That would take away
- 46:25the guilt and the shame of the embarrassment. If you've had suicidal adeations,
- 46:29if you've had a suicidal attempt or multiple, there's no shame, there's no
- 46:32guilt, there's no embarrassment. We eradicate that we remove that you are.
- 46:37You were going through life, but you were still here and we still need
- 46:42you desperately. So love, feel all that love, feel all that peace,
- 46:46feel all of that, and I hope you make the decision to stay
- 46:49and to remain. Don't be ashamed. A lot of us have had the
- 46:52adeations, but you matter and we want you here. So that's my spield.
- 46:57That's what I have to say. Love you and God's best. Okay,
- 47:01yes, absolutely. According to the World Health organization. On average,
- 47:07one hundred and thirty people commit suicide every day to us, which amounts to
- 47:12approximately one person every eleven minutes. Yep, that is just It just hurts
- 47:22my soul. One of the things that I wanted to say to you,
- 47:24ladies is I am so honored to be part of this conversation. I want
- 47:31to show you something because I just added the four you all to my superhero
- 47:37wall. Here's why missus LP gotten this. This is one of my most
- 47:44treasured items in my office. This is a wooden plaque. It has the
- 47:46MS Store a Life and it says it's not all superheroes were capes. You
- 47:52know why this is important to me because she gave this sim me when I
- 47:57was active as a paramidic and the firefighter fight and I've been called hero,
- 48:02superhero, I won, you know, some major life saving awards, gotten
- 48:07all these accolades and all this stuff. I didn't get into the job for
- 48:09all of that. I got into the job because of I want to do
- 48:15my part to help us get to our humanity. And when we're talking about
- 48:19suicide, the humanity in those individuals that have attempted as well as those that
- 48:25have been successful is those that have attempted they were walking on thanos, they
- 48:35got staged something. Those that end up getting pronounced they died of a broken
- 48:42heart because they feel like nobody cared. And the work that you all are
- 48:47doing, I feel like a superhero. We tend to think of the Marvel
- 48:52Comics characters or the DC the Superman's and the Batman's opis and forget all that
- 48:59stuff. You know, the superhero is to me, a superhero is an
- 49:02ordinary person doing some extraordinary things in some extraordinary situations. Queen Angela Sanduri's dominique,
- 49:13Steph, you all are superheroes in my book, because you didn't just
- 49:17decide to work in these careers just for check. You want to do your
- 49:24pocket helpers, get to our humanity. I posted a comment in the chat,
- 49:30I said, remember these four numbers two four excrement two six forty six
- 49:38in eleven. This is from a report that I saw on a i G
- 49:46page called First Underscore Responders Underscore First, and it was showing the twenty twenty
- 49:53three suicides year to day, and each of those numbers represent nine one one
- 50:00operators or emergency medical dispatchers mts or paramedics. Because all paramedics are mts,
- 50:07but now all mts are paramedics. It depends on your license. Forty six
- 50:12represents law enforcement and eleven represents firefighters. So two two emergency medical dispatchers or
- 50:21nine one one operators have been reported to they have committed suicide. And these
- 50:24are just the ones that are reported. The numbers are waged trust, six
- 50:30six MS personnel, forty six law enforcement and elect firefighters. Those numbers are
- 50:38current and these were reported through the site called first help dot org as of
- 50:45July seventh of this year. When I say those numbers are higher, trust,
- 50:49they're a lot higher. I had worked with some individuals who one committed
- 50:53suicide by coop. He was a MT, another was a medic two wings.
- 51:00You know, this job has so many traumas that come with it.
- 51:07We see traumas all the time and we experienced them also, And so as
- 51:13a first responder again, my job is to come back home healthy, happy,
- 51:19whole, so missus LP can be healthy, happening whold. So I
- 51:23can minimize domestic violence in my household and eliminated it because part of that,
- 51:30and I have a wider view of what domestic violence. It's just it's not
- 51:35just what happens under your roof, in between your four walls. When we
- 51:37see these stories about like what happened in Uvaldi, or the store in Buffalo
- 51:44with the shooting at the grocery store, or any of these breaking news stories,
- 51:49those are actually domestic violence because those are places where we domesticated ourselves.
- 51:54Your favorite grocery store, your household, worship, your school, your academ
- 52:00in the institution, in your place of business, whether you were virtually or
- 52:02in a brick and water place. When violence happens at those places, they
- 52:07interrupt your domestic tranquility. And so we need to understand that when it comes
- 52:14to suicide, the onus is on us and it closed and I don't play
- 52:20this. When we're talking about modalities, You're right laying on somebody's cops for
- 52:27forty five minutes doing the Q and A is not going to help me.
- 52:30We're like, we just just stop. Stop. So what we need to
- 52:32do is get people to understand it. Yes, there are so many modalities
- 52:37out here. Medicine has this place. I'm not saying everybody needs to be
- 52:42on medication or appeal, but medicine has this place. You know, there's
- 52:45kind of to behavior therapy. If you have c PTSD, which is the
- 52:50complex PTSD or PTSD, E M d R is phenomenal for that. And
- 52:58I'm not even finished think about the metaphysical mobility. We're talking about massigns therapy.
- 53:06We're talking about raking practitioners, We're talking about EFT, that's happing,
- 53:09We're talking about NLP, new or linguistic programming. You know, there's so
- 53:14many modalities out there, and I and I've talked about that and have these
- 53:17metaphysics metaphysicians on my podcast all the time. I interviewed one lady who deals
- 53:24with For the last thirty years, she has helped people who have been traumatized
- 53:30from sexual offenses, trafficking, domestic violence, suicide. You know how she
- 53:37did it and how she does it using Christmas and terror cards. We did
- 53:40a whole episode about that. The first fifteen minutes all we did was dispel
- 53:46all thes and the misconceptions about all of that stuff, and then we did
- 53:51go into it. I say that to say that there's many, many,
- 53:55many metaphysical modalities to help people. It's especially when it comes to suicide.
- 54:01You have got to be the catalyst in your own advocate and raised your own
- 54:07state in this game that we call life, as Prince Seed in his song,
- 54:14because we're all just trying to get to this thing called life. And
- 54:16there's many people like myself and you four ladies that are willing and ready and
- 54:23available to give the help. Whether you're man in the phones, or you
- 54:29are in the streets, are doing whatever work in terms of making those brass
- 54:36root connections, or you're a first responder who is talking to other first responses.
- 54:40We don't get enough training on these things, so that's part of my
- 54:45role. Whatever you're doing podcasting or whatever, we have to be those superheroes
- 54:52that don't wear capes lpr Wow, Wow, I tell you I have truly
- 55:00been blessed on tonight. I want to thank you guys for being the change
- 55:04that you guys desire to see in this world. And that's what it's gonna
- 55:07take. If you want change, you have to be the change. So
- 55:10I bought each and every one of you guys for the amazing work that you're
- 55:15doing. I wish you so much success in all that you do and continue
- 55:21on this journey touching lives. I'm just excited about what God is doing through
- 55:25each and every one of you. Guys. It's just amazing to see individuals
- 55:30that are transparent and willing to share your willingness. I thank you, I
- 55:36thank you, I thank you. I can't thank you enough. And I
- 55:38want to thank everyone that has been tuned in tonight to another episode of the
- 55:44Crew podcast. Y'all know we are the change that we desire to see,
- 55:46so we will continue to bring you individuals that are being the change that they
- 55:52want to see in this world. I pray that your night is blessed beyond
- 55:55what you can see in the natural and know that God is working it out.
- 56:00Amen. I love you, guys, y'all be blessed. Thank you
- 56:04so much. Thank you, Hi hi guys.