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Best of Ian Furness 10/15 · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: An NFL color analyst for both CBS and Westwood One,
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  Speaker 1: who you can follow on social media at Ross Tucker NFL.
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  Speaker 2: A call at 425-255-0500. Now, here's Ian with Ross Tucker.
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  Speaker 3: All right, time to check in with a good friend,
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  Speaker 3: Ross Tucker. He joins us on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline,
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  Speaker 3: Westwood One, CBS Sports. The Ross Tucker Football Podcast. Listen,
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  Speaker 3: we're talking NFL, we're talking football, we're talking to Ross Tucker.
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  Speaker 3: We do it on every Thursday, and we check in
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  Speaker 3: with Ross right now where he's getting ready for a
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  Speaker 3: game this weekend. He's got the Eagles and the Panthers,
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  Speaker 3: which we're going to get to in a second because
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  Speaker 3: some interesting developments there.
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  Speaker 4: Hello, sir. How are you?
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  Speaker 5: Doing terrific, Ian. How about yourself?
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  Speaker 2: I'm good.
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  Speaker 4: I'm good. We're... We're double dipping today.
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  Speaker 3: I just got to tell you, if people may think
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  Speaker 3: it sounds different, we move locations. We're at the Kraken
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  Speaker 3: Hockey Network Studios, which double for about 18 other things,
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  Speaker 3: and so I just got moved into a hallway. So
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  Speaker 3: I'm hoping this sounds okay for everybody as we cruise along.
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  Speaker 3: I want to get to your game in a minute.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to bury the lead. I don't want
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  Speaker 3: to mess around. Seahawks and Broncos tonight. Let me start
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  Speaker 3: with our team here in Seattle. The running game isn't there.
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  Speaker 3: The running backs aren't there. We're not sure who it's
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  Speaker 3: going to be tonight. Darnold's interception rate is the highest
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  Speaker 3: in the National Football League. What's Ross Tucker's assessment of
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  Speaker 3: our local defending Super Bowl champions here?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think what you're seeing is that they really
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  Speaker 5: need a meaningful run game for this offense to operate
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  Speaker 5: the way they want it to. And, you know, you
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  Speaker 5: can go play to play and decide whether you think
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  Speaker 5: this play was on the offensive line or there was
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  Speaker 5: more meat on the bone and the running back didn't
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  Speaker 5: hit it right. You know, we can have that conversation,
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  Speaker 5: but regardless, they just aren't running it the way they
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  Speaker 5: need to for everything else to kind of operate off
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  Speaker 5: of it. And I think most people would tell you that,
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  Speaker 5: you know, Sam Darnold, is not the guy you want
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  Speaker 5: jumping back 40 times a game and having to throw.
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  Speaker 2: You to victory.
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  Speaker 5: So, you know, when they can get these guys healthier
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  Speaker 5: and back out there and or, you know, if they
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  Speaker 5: elect to at some point maybe even trade for running backs,
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  Speaker 5: depending on when they feel like these guys will be available,
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  Speaker 5: you'd have to tell me the latest on when they
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  Speaker 5: think they'll be able to play. But that's certainly the
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  Speaker 5: biggest thing jumping out is that You know, there's a
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  Speaker 5: reason why Darnold, who's improved Super Bowl champion last year,
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  Speaker 5: but there's a reason why it didn't go as well
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  Speaker 5: in a few of his first stops. It's because he's
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  Speaker 5: not the guy that you want in obvious passing downs
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  Speaker 5: over and over again. He operates the offense very effectively
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  Speaker 5: when you're kind of ahead of the down and distance.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to get back to the running backs in
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  Speaker 3: a second. I'm going to stay with Darnold because that's
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  Speaker 3: an interesting point. I was going to ask you, do
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  Speaker 3: the Seahawks have a Sam Darnold problem, interception rate highest
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  Speaker 3: in the NFL? But I think what you said is
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  Speaker 3: maybe at this point in his career, we know who
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  Speaker 3: he is. He can do some really nice things for you,
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  Speaker 3: but as you said, he can also hurt you. And
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  Speaker 3: if you are too Sam Darnold reliant, if I'm hearing
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  Speaker 3: you correctly, that puts you in a tough situation.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so listen, there's a bunch of quarterbacks like this.
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  Speaker 5: I mean... there are only a handful that really you
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  Speaker 5: feel like can take over the game with their arm
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  Speaker 5: and maybe their legs, Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. And,
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  Speaker 5: you know, certainly Patrick Mahomes, maybe Matthew Stafford. He's not
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  Speaker 5: in that category. And I think he probably knows he's
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  Speaker 5: not in that category. So if you're not in that
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  Speaker 5: category or in the next group of guys who can
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  Speaker 5: really play the position at a high level, when it's
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  Speaker 5: within the structure of the offense and you're not asking
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  Speaker 5: them to do more than what's there. And right now
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  Speaker 5: what's there is not always as good as what was there,
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  Speaker 5: you know, last year, even earlier this season.
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  Speaker 2: Ross Tucker joining us running back wise.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a question that's, there's a lot of things
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  Speaker 3: in there. Jadarian Price hasn't been healthy really since he
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  Speaker 3: got here. Uh, and then we look and see what,
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  Speaker 3: you know, obviously, so Charbonnet, I think we'll be back
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  Speaker 3: maybe for Kansas city next Sunday night.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe we'll see. Um, he's close.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, watching him, you know, the little that we
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  Speaker 3: get to watch in practice, he, he looks, you know,
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  Speaker 3: like he's close, uh, as well. One of the things
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  Speaker 3: I'm curious about from your standpoint, they've got Rashid Shaheed.
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  Speaker 3: They spent a lot of money on him. We know
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  Speaker 3: what he can do in the return game. He's a
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  Speaker 3: wide receiver, but I know you probably know the name,
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  Speaker 3: Greg Cosell. You know, Greg mentioned us last week. He says, I'm, I'm,
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  Speaker 3: Surprised they're not using him more like a Debo Samuel.
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  Speaker 3: Not maybe between the tackles, not in the A-gap or
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  Speaker 3: anything like that, but maybe more out of the backfield.
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  Speaker 3: Could Rashid Shahid and his skill set be a help
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  Speaker 3: for Seattle in the backfield, do you think, Ross?
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  Speaker 5: No question. And I think, especially with Flory's background... I
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  Speaker 5: would think that, especially in this situation, they would be
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  Speaker 5: wanting to use Shahid in that role. And that can help.
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  Speaker 5: Don't get me wrong. And that can be something. But
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  Speaker 5: I would also say, I feel like that's something that
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  Speaker 5: the Niners implement in the offseason program and in training camp.
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  Speaker 5: And they have structured as part of their offense, as
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  Speaker 5: opposed to just something you're putting in and trying that week.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know. I'm not at Seahawks training camp. I
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  Speaker 5: don't know how much time they've actually invested in that, in, in,
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  Speaker 5: in Shahid and those types of things. And I think
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  Speaker 5: most of the play action comes off of the base
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  Speaker 5: run game. So they really want to be running the
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  Speaker 5: base run game. But also like, he's not the biggest guy.
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  Speaker 5: You know, if you look at the body type for
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  Speaker 5: Debo Samuel, he's, Debo Samuel is thick. Debo Samuel is
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  Speaker 5: a powerful dude in his core and lower body. That's
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  Speaker 5: not really Shahid, so you don't really want to run
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  Speaker 5: some of the same plays with Shahid that you.
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  Speaker 2: Do with Debo.
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  Speaker 3: text line, actually more than one person, did you get
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  Speaker 3: your forklift yet? Has Eric Gordon got you a forklift yet, Ross?
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  Speaker 5: No, not yet. But I think the last week, oh,
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  Speaker 5: you know what? Last week when we spoke, I was
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  Speaker 5: actually on the way to the airport with my wife.
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  Speaker 5: She came out to L.A. with me for last weekend's game.
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  Speaker 5: So I was about to mention, like, all right, now
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  Speaker 5: would be the time to ask my wife if it's
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  Speaker 5: okay if I got a forklift. But I think she
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  Speaker 5: was asleep. I think me talking about football with coaches
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  Speaker 5: and with you, the whole drive to the airport put
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  Speaker 5: her to sleep. So I didn't want to wake her up.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a great endorsement for either one of us
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  Speaker 2: in terms of what we do for a living, but
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  Speaker 2: that's okay. My wife doesn't know what I do for
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  Speaker 2: a living.
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  Speaker 4: To be honest with you.
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  Speaker 3: I've been doing sports radio and hockey broadcasting for a
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  Speaker 3: long time, and I'm not sure. She asked me, what
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  Speaker 3: are you doing again tonight? Just don't worry about it, hon.
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  Speaker 3: The check comes on the 1st and the 15th.
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  Speaker 4: We're all good. Ross Tucker joining us. It actually makes
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  Speaker 4: for a better marriage, I think, in some ways.
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  Speaker 3: The Denver Broncos, you look at their numbers, just their
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  Speaker 3: basic numbers, you know, total defense, total offense. A lot
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  Speaker 3: has been made about their offense and the play calling
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  Speaker 3: and Peyton taking it back and all those things and
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  Speaker 3: Bo Nix. I want to look on the other side
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  Speaker 3: of the ball. They have no Patrick Sertan tonight, no
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  Speaker 3: Hufanga back tonight. They may be missing another starting corner
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  Speaker 3: as well. And their defense has had some struggles too.
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  Speaker 3: But when you watch the Denver Broncos, tonight's opponent for
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  Speaker 3: the Seahawks, what are you seeing on both sides of
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  Speaker 3: the ball?
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  Speaker 5: Well, defense is still pretty good and I'm impressed. You know,
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  Speaker 5: I did their game Sunday against the chargers and I'm
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  Speaker 5: kind of impressed by Abrams drain and you know, last
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  Speaker 5: year's first round pick Jada Baron, those guys have played
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  Speaker 5: pretty well. I mean, most teams don't have fourth and
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  Speaker 5: fifth corners coming off the bench, making some of the
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  Speaker 5: plays that those guys have made the last game and
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  Speaker 5: a half. against the Chargers and the Niners. So I
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  Speaker 5: think that the defense is probably the least of their
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  Speaker 5: issues right now. You know, Benito probably hasn't been quite
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  Speaker 5: as impactful without having Jonathan Cooper on the other side,
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  Speaker 5: who's on the commissioner's exempt list. Zach Allen is still
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  Speaker 5: Zach Allen, and that will be a matchup to watch tonight,
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  Speaker 5: number 99 in the interior against that Seahawks interior offensive line.
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  Speaker 5: But I think The one that's interesting to me is
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  Speaker 5: now no Hufanga. So I'll have the key kid back there.
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  Speaker 5: You know, it was one thing for it to happen
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  Speaker 5: in game last week. I don't know if the Chargers
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  Speaker 5: were able to make as many adjustments as they would
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  Speaker 5: have liked. But now, knowing he's out, it's a short week.
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  Speaker 5: I'd like to think the Seahawks would try to target him.
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  Speaker 5: You know, he's a very different player than Hufanga. So
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  Speaker 5: they're down... you know, three of their top four or
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  Speaker 5: five defensive backs, which, you know, should be something that
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  Speaker 5: the Seahawks should be able to take advantage of in
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  Speaker 5: the passing game.
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  Speaker 3: A couple teams that are desperate for wins, no doubt.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody wants to be 3-3 after six games. If you
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  Speaker 3: were in conference championship games like the Broncos were last
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  Speaker 3: year or winning the Super Bowl like.
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  Speaker 4: Seattle was as well. But we'll see.
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  Speaker 3: I do want to tell you, your game is intriguing
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  Speaker 3: this weekend too. Carolina at 2-2 coming off a bye.
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  Speaker 3: Philadelphia coming off just an excruciating loss. They're 2-3, and
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  Speaker 3: now we find out that Jalen Hurts is out This
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  Speaker 3: week he's got a blood clot, and frankly, I'll be honest,
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  Speaker 3: I know a little something about that from this past summer.
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  Speaker 2: That's no fun, and you've got to be really careful
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  Speaker 2: with that kind of stuff. So, boy, how does no.
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  Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts affect the game this week for Philadelphia in
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  Speaker 3: the game you're doing with Carolina?
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  Speaker 5: Well, it affects it a lot because right now it
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  Speaker 5: feels like they only have, I don't know, three starters? Yes.
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  Speaker 5: on the offensive side of the ball that started the opener,
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  Speaker 5: which is kind of crazy if you think about it.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe four if you count Dontavia and Wicks, I guess,
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  Speaker 5: but that's not what you're looking for in week six. Plus,
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  Speaker 5: the whole Tanner McKee thing is super weird because he'd
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  Speaker 5: always just played awesome in the preseason. They loved him
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  Speaker 5: last year. He'd played pretty well any opportunity he got.
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  Speaker 5: They loved him last year, and then he didn't play
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  Speaker 5: quite his best in week 18. Next thing you know,
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  Speaker 5: they bring in Andy Dalton for competition. Those guys are
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  Speaker 5: splitting reps.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I thought that they just were trying to trade any
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  Speaker 5: Dalton or have the flexibility to trade one of them.
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  Speaker 5: But then Dalton was the backup. The first few games
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  Speaker 5: do that pick against the bears. So it's, that's a
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  Speaker 5: weird situation to say the least. I've always been a
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  Speaker 5: Tanner fan and I think he'll be able to play
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  Speaker 5: pretty well. But he did not have a great preseason
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  Speaker 5: at all. So I think the jury's out. This is
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  Speaker 5: actually the worst preseason he had in four years, which
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  Speaker 5: is hard to believe.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Ross, have a great call this weekend. I'll be
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  Speaker 3: looking forward to that as well. And then we'll talk
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  Speaker 3: to you next Thursday. Getting ready for, boy, wait for this.
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  Speaker 3: Next Thursday, Ross will be talking about the Seahawks and
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  Speaker 3: the Chiefs and Ken Walker.
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  Speaker 4: And the Chiefs and the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, boy. Oh, boy.
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  Speaker 3: And all the buyer's remorse that every fan in this
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  Speaker 3: town is having right now if the running game doesn't
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  Speaker 3: get going tonight. We'll be talking about Walker a lot
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  Speaker 3: with you next Thursday. But have a great call this weekend.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks so much. We appreciate it. We'll talk to you
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  Speaker 3: next week, buddy.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 5: Appreciate it.
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  Speaker 4: There you go.
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  Speaker 3: That is our good friend Ross Tucker. Ross Tucker, football podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, you can find his stuff as well, CBS Sports.
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  Speaker 3: He is on the number two crew right now with
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  Speaker 3: CBS Sports. He's got a big game this weekend as well,
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  Speaker 3: of course, in addition to all of that. Westwood One,
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  Speaker 3: you hear him on the radio quite often as well.
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  Speaker 3: He's a very busy man. We love having Ross on
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  Speaker 3: every week as well. Interesting conversation there, Ash, with the
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  Speaker 3: Rashid Shaheed situation with him. And I'm with him. When
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  Speaker 3: Greg brought that up, I kind of thought the same thing.
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  Speaker 3: I want to see Rashid Shaheed with more touches. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: that's why offensive coordinators are paid a hell of a
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  Speaker 3: lot more money than all of us are.
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  Speaker 2: To figure out how to figure out how to use them.
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  Speaker 2: But I just, there just has to be a way, right.
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  Speaker 3: To, to get him, to get the ball in his
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  Speaker 3: hand more and just, you know, and have him become
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  Speaker 3: more of a factor for this football team than we've
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  Speaker 3: seen so far.
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  Speaker 7: I would like to see, I mean, here's the thing
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  Speaker 7: is right now, the, the way they're using him or
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  Speaker 7: how much he's being used, it doesn't seem like enough.
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  Speaker 7: It does seem like he's got such explosive speed and
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  Speaker 7: can make things happen. So what's the harm in seeing
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  Speaker 7: what he can do with more touches, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and the thing is, is, and I, I hate
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  Speaker 3: to go down this road and, but I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: go down it anyway, because it gets brought up all
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  Speaker 3: the time. And, you know, I mean, he's, he's had
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  Speaker 3: nine catches and he's had three carries. So, Take the
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  Speaker 3: special team stuff out. Nine receptions for Rashid Shahid, 96 yards,
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  Speaker 3: a long of 23. As far as running the ball,
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  Speaker 3: he's only truly rushed the ball three times for 30-78,
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  Speaker 3: but he had that 28-yard touchdown. 12 touches on offense
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  Speaker 3: for Rashid Shahid. What I'm going to say here should
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  Speaker 3: not be dependent on this, but You invested in him,
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  Speaker 3: so maybe there is a correlation. You spent a lot
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  Speaker 3: of money on this dude. You spent a lot of
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  Speaker 3: money to retain him. And the reason you did is, sure,
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  Speaker 3: every now and then he's going to break one. Every
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  Speaker 3: now and then he's going to house one on a
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  Speaker 3: kickoff or a punt return. And he has a special
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  Speaker 3: ability that very few guys in this league have in
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  Speaker 3: the punt and the kickoff game. That's an art. There's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of really fast dudes. But guys are able
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  Speaker 3: to see and read. It's like running the football, like
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  Speaker 3: where to go. He has a special ability. But that's
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  Speaker 3: not what you– you didn't pay him the kind of
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  Speaker 3: money you paid him just for that. But you sure
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  Speaker 3: as hell paid him that kind of money to have
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  Speaker 3: more than 12 touches on offense through the first five games.
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  Speaker 4: Like that just– it just makes no sense. I would
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  Speaker 4: hope so.
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: And this isn't.
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  Speaker 3: Baseball where the GM's going to be calling down to
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  Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator and saying, hey, put this guy in
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  Speaker 3: the three hole or put this guy and have him
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  Speaker 3: back clean up.
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  Speaker 4: And we're paying this guy. That's not how football works.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Schneider's not tough. But at some point, Schneider's
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  Speaker 3: got to be thinking, wait a second, man. Mike and Brian,
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  Speaker 3: we paid for this guy. We gave you this toy
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  Speaker 3: to use. And I think back, it's... Rashid Shaheed is
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  Speaker 3: such a different dude and such a different personality than
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  Speaker 3: Percy Harvin. But when they brought Percy Harvin here, they
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  Speaker 3: were never able to figure it out. They were never
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  Speaker 3: able to get Percy to be Percy, outside of being nuts.
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  Speaker 4: It was that small thing.
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  Speaker 3: And violent and a lot of other things. But you
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  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying? And I know there were some
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  Speaker 3: injuries and things like that with Percy. He was never
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  Speaker 3: really healthy. But they never used him. When you have
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  Speaker 3: these types of toys... these unique guys have the unique
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  Speaker 3: skill sets. You have to use them. I know Debo
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  Speaker 3: wasn't healthy the last couple of years. You know, Washington
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  Speaker 3: never used Debo like they should have. He wasn't healthy,
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  Speaker 3: but Kyle Shanahan finds a way to use Debo Samuel. So,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you have, you have the little, what do
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  Speaker 3: they call it in video games? You got the joystick,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like have them, you know, hit, hit, hit
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: the ultra setting, whatever it might be.
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I just always hit A and B
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: all the time. Just hit all the buttons and see
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: what happens. I mean, my video games are basically Pong
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: on TV. Yeah, Breakout, Asteroids, all on Atari. Okay, now
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: you're just going a different route.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: There's no greater video game in the history of man
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: than a 25-cent Asteroids.
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: There just isn't.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: And it's not even a debate. And if anybody debates
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: me on 49451, I'm going to block you forever. Now,
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: if you want to go Centipede, I might have a
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: conversation or Tempest. But outside of that, I'm not going
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: down the road. Asteroids are the greatest one ever.
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: Period.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: End of story.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: Don't argue with me on 49451. Please don't do that.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: I can't wait for people to argue with you.
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  Speaker 6: I want to see what happens.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: The kids now, they're playing these video games. I'm like,
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: I miss the days of going to the Midnight Martin
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Magnolia after getting off work and putting 25 cents in
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: and having like an hour's worth of fun just sitting
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: there doing that.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: Oh, good times.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: I had Atari. Missile Command was the best.
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: Ashley, life was simpler back then. It was. Oh, so simple.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: Life was so simple and nice back then. Video games
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: were simpler back then. What happened to our world? What
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: happened to our world along the way?
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Don't forget, Funston coming up today at 1.30. But top
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: of the hour, we'll check in with our good friend
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: Steve Palazzolo. We'll go deeper into the Seahawks and the
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Broncos matchup tonight. Get your thoughts as well at 49451.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: All coming up here on 93.3 KJFM.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: It's time for a numbers dive to hand out some
• 17:45
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• 18:08
  Speaker 4: Now with Ian, here's Steve Palazzolo. All right, let's get going, man.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: It is a game day for the Seahawks.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: It is Thursday night football, and it makes it even
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: more special to have our weekly guest and our weekly
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: visit with our friend Steve Palazzolo on right now.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: He joins us courtesy of Zeke's Pizza. Hello, Steve. How
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: are you?
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Doing great. Thanks for having me, as always.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: It is a game day. It is Thursday night football.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: Seahawks will now have played on a Wednesday, a Thursday,
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: a Sunday, and here on a Sunday night coming up
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: in a week, and then after that, a Monday. So
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: We're getting all the days taken care of here, Steve,
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: in Seattle.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: I love that. Did you get the Black Friday game
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: this year? Maybe that's the only thing missing at this point.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: What do we have, Ashley? I think they play Christmas.
• 18:52
  Speaker 7: They play Christmas, and then we have the Thanksgiving Sunday,
• 18:55
  Speaker 7: so not Black Friday.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Christmas Day, though. Christmas.
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  Speaker 2: That's Friday.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Christmas Friday.
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  Speaker 5: Right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think it might be.
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: God, it's just can't keep track, man.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: I can't keep track, but we got a lot to,
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: we got a lot to discuss as well with Steve,
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: Steve Palazzolo, 33rd team. Check the mic podcast here. Let
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: me start with just a quick look back last week
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: and a lot of things going on in the NFL
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: and we'll get to our team here in a second.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: But as we look around the NFL, I want to
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: wrap it up with the Monday game, Buffalo and the
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: LA Rams. That was a heavyweight tilt if I've ever
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: seen one, and yet one team is now sitting at 2-3.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: What did you make of what you saw on Monday night,
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: and maybe even specifically, Steve, from our friends in the
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: NFC West, the LA Rams?
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the Rams are two and three they're
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: finishing their tough stretch you know playing the niners playing
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: um buffalo on monday night you know the the eagles
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: they've had they've had some tough games broncos they've had
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: a tough stretch and um we were talking about it
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: on our show today the rams at two and three
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: like if you look at their next five games they're
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: probably favored this weekend they're favored by over 12 points
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: they're probably favored by a touchdown plus for the next
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: five weeks So we might be sitting here heading into
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: mid-November or Thanksgiving, and they're 7-3, and we look back
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: and say, wait, every time they played a good team,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: they pretty much lost. And so the Rams, they end up,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: the special teams, bites them again, much like last year,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: much like the Seattle games down the stretch. And missed
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: kicks and kick return to kick off the game. I
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: think the Rams showed, of course, that they could score
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: points and go head-to-head with the best teams, but for
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: a team that obviously had extremely high expectations, the Rams
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: still trying to find their footing defensively, still trying to
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: get healthy. And Matthew Stafford's play has been really up
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: and down. And that was one of my concerns for
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: them this year was that he can't play at this
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: 48 touchdown, six interception level every year. Cause he's only
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: done it once. And that's pretty extreme. Like there's gotta
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: be some regression there from Stafford and you're starting to
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: see it. And then you add in the special teams
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: piece and here they are two and three after a
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: tough five week stretch, but then five, um, If they
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: don't go 5-0 over the next five weeks, I think
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: the Rams have some concerns. So I think we're going
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: to be watching a 7-3 team here in a little bit,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: but also not really sure how good they are because
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: they haven't won against good teams, really.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Well, and that brings us to San Francisco. I mean,
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: they're sitting there at 5-0 and looking at their schedule.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, they're almost assured to go 8-9-0 with what
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: their schedule looks like in the coming weeks. I mean,
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: who can slow down San Francisco right now if it
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: wasn't Seattle?
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: They're the opposite. They took care of business in their
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: toughest games, going into Seattle, taking on the Rams in Australia.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Every test the Niners have had, they've passed it. What
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: did we talk about last week? I just mentioned the
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: turnovers from Seattle. Just eliminate the turnovers. It's more than that.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: You want the offense to be clicking better than it
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: has generally. But the Niners, as good as their offense
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: has been, it wasn't like they dominated Seattle's defense. They
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: just had four short fields. one of which was just
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: a fumble in the end zone. So there was a
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: lot of short drives and touchdowns for the Niners, but
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: got to give them credit. Mike Evans has been a
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: huge addition, as we saw. Brock Purdy's playing as well
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: as any quarterback in the league. The defense has been
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: more impressive than I thought. I think I mentioned last
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: week as well, with Fred Warner back, you just see
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: the impacts that he has. When Nick Bosa was out
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: there earlier in the season, you saw the impacts that
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: he had. But they have more talent than they had
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: last year on the defensive side of the ball, and
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: it's showing. but especially Warner and Greenlaw in the middle
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: of the defense, when they're out there, when Greenlaw's not
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: kicked out of the game, it does, it does make
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: a bigger impact that you, cause last year they were getting,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: you know, beat up and then surviving. It's just a
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: better all around team in San Francisco. And they've, they've
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: had a really, really clean five weeks so far. The
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: beautiful thing about the NFL, as opposed to college football
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: is there's no subjective nature to it is it's wins
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: and losses and that's it.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: That's all that matters.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: And, the right, the left-hand column, the wins, the right-hand column,
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: the losses. If you want to go far, right, I
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: guess you go the ties and we'll get to Dan
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Quinn and that situation in a minute before we wrap
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: up with Steve. But I do want to just get
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: your thoughts. Like I, I don't love power rankings from
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: people that I think have no clue, but somebody like
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: you that I feel like does have a clue. If
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: we look around the league right now, there's, you know, Minnesota,
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: San Francisco, Kansas city are all undefeated. There's a handful
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: of one loss teams, Baltimore, Jacksonville, Buffalo, and, uh, somehow
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: the Giants are 3-1, but they got that one tie.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: If you were just looking around and you're just kind
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: of stacking it together, if this was the AP Top 25,
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: who's number one?
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: Is it San Francisco? Is it Kansas City?
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: And where would, say, a Minnesota 5-0 team fit in
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: that mix for you?
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fun one. I mean, if you're really
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: doing proper power rankings, you could say, well, the Bills
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: are 4-1. Who cares if they have a loss? If
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: you think they're the best team, you just make them
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: number one. Um, the Niners have to be up there.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you were saying, Hey, who's been the
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: best and you know, what, who do you have faith
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: in going forward? I think the Niners, you know, if
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: they continue to survive some of their big injury issues, um,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: because they've got the head coach, the quarterback and a
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: solid defense, right? So that's the starting point there. Obviously
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: you have a history with the Kansas city chiefs and
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: then the way that they've won, you know, if you
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: were a chiefs hater, you'd say, yeah, they beat up
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: on the dolphins and the Raiders are probably overrated. And,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: you know, they, uh, they beat the Colts who can't
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: stop anybody. but we have a history with the chiefs,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: my homes, Andy Reed. And then you see what Ken
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Walker's done to that offense. And you say, all right,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: they have, they have learned how to win in different ways.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: We've seen them win the flashy way. Now they can
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: win with the run game too.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Kansas city has to be up there. And then you
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: just look at, Hey, the Ravens, the bills go back
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: to history, right? I mean, they have, you know, better
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: part of a decade history of the bills, Ravens, chiefs,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: all being good. So they all have to be up
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: in the mix.
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: So, I think they're all the strongest teams. And then
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: the Vikings would probably be the most challenging one, where
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: you say they've given up 64 points through five games.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Absolutely incredible. The defense has been unbelievable. They're blitzing at
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: a 70% rate. I keep comparing this extreme to when
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: the Houston Oilers came in. Way back in the early 90s,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: they came in and started the run and shoot. It's
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: like bringing a four-wide receiver, spread offense... to the NFL
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: back in the early nineties when everybody's running, you know,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: a fullback tight end, sometimes two tight ends, you know,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: three wide receivers was like exotic back then. And they
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: came in just, we're going to run four wide at
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: all times run and shoot. I mean, that's Brian Flores
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: blitzing 70% of the time. It's never been done before
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: in the modern era that, you know, since the NFL's
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: tracked and blitz percentages and it's working. And so that's
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: fascinating to me because, you know, can you keep that up?
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Can they keep up this incredible defensive pace? Because their
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: offense is also one of the worst in the NFL statistically.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: But Kyler Murray may be finding his way. So I
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: think the Vikings are good and they're dangerous. But they're
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: going to be really challenged. They've got two games against
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: the Lions. They've got the Bills. That defense will be
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: tested against some good offenses. I can't wait to see it.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: But it's just so fun because Brian Flores and that
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: defense are living in the extreme of the extremes. with
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: this insane blitz rate, and it's working to this point
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: five weeks in.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: Steve, I think it's fascinating to me, and Steve Palazzolo, 3013,
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: check the Mike podcast, and I should point out, I
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: used to work for PFF, and that's where I want
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: to go with this for a little bit, and I
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: know PFF's not what it used to be, but you've
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: studied these things for.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: A long time.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: In college, blitzing a college quarterback is way different than
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: blitzing an NFL quarterback, an NFL offense, an NFL offensive coordinator,
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: NFL receivers, etc. that understand the hot reads and all
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: those types of things. Is it surprising to you that,
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: that what Flores is doing in Minnesota has been so
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: sustainable so far?
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, it is a little bit, especially because it's not
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: like this is completely new for him. Like he was
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: always at the top of the blitz rate numbers, you know,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: blitz is like, you know, is it five rushers or
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: is it four with, you know, a linebacker or a nickel,
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: however you define it. I mean, they're, they're bringing heat.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Flores has already always been up there. And then there's
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: always been points like his early years with the Vikings
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: when he was playing like this. The second half, it
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: would taper off a little bit or Ben Johnson's Lions
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: would always have the answers for it. And Jared Goff
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: would carve them up. And there were points where it
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: was like, hey, Brian Flores, this is going good. And
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: then it would kind of taper off the end of
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: the season. But now, you know, like the league average
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: blitz rates like 30 something percent low 30s. And he's
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: at 70. So he used to be in the 40s,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: you know, maybe touch 50 for some certain games. We've
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: never seen it at this level of extreme. And then
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: what I'm seeing, what you see on film is you
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: see quarterbacks, they're just hurried. They're hurried every single snap.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: If you had SQ Millen about like, what's it like
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: if you have to play fast every single snap? And
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: then there's a few plays, like when they only rush four,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: or if they don't get pressure, the quarterback's almost stunned.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Like he doesn't know what to do. It's like, oh,
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: now I got to go through my reads. Because the quarterback,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: normally it's like, all right, I'm going to go through
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: my reads. I'm going to look at this defender or
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: go one, two, three, four. But against Flores, it's no,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: I'm throwing hot. I got to throw behind the blitz.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Where's it coming from? Is it picked up? Are there
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: free rushers? Do I need to avoid them? Everything's fast, fast, fast.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: And it's almost like when they don't get home or
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: they actually mix it up and rush four, the quarterback's like,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: oh shoot, I forgot how to play quarterback and read
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: out a play. So it's really just, it's just a discomfort.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: You know, it's almost like pitching backwards in baseball. If
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: you had a guy that just threw off change-ups and
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: before you know it, here's a fastball and you just
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: don't know what to do with a fastball, which is
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: normally what a hitter wants to hit. But it's the invert,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: like it's inverted, right? It's like the quarterback is just
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: sped up, sped up, sped up. And every now and again,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: they get slowed down. So it's just fascinating to watch
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: generally blitzing like that. It's going to work against lesser quarterbacks,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: you know, guys that don't, have that experience. Let's see
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: what happens when they go up against Allen and the
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Bills and they go up against Goff and the Lions.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Not saying it won't work, but I think that's when
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: it will really get put to the test.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Steve Palazzolo joining us here. Let's not bury the lead.
• 29:12
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  Speaker 3: pizzas tonight for game day with the Seahawks. Steve, it
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: is Denver, Seattle tonight. It is Thursday night football. Let
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: me start with Seattle. Do they have a Sam Darnold problem?
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: I know they've got a running game problem. Do they
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: have a Sam Darnold problem right now?
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: His interception percentage is the highest in the league at
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: over 5%. I mean, the turnovers themselves are a problem,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: and they've been high for Darnold. We talked about it
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: last week. It's not like he's played clean, clean football
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: when it comes to turnovers, even in these years where
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: he's put up huge numbers. But the problem is you're
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: not balancing it out with enough positives, right? Like Josh
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Allen had high interception percentages early in his career. And
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: it's like, oh, it's okay. He's balancing it out with
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: everything he's bringing to the table. That's the problem at
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: this point. And no coach wants turnovers. But if it
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: comes with some explosives and it comes with some aggressiveness
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: and it comes with getting the ball to JSN and
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: the playmakers, okay, you deal with it sometimes. But it
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: is the only thing holding Seattle down. I think on
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: the positive side for the Seahawks, You would say the
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: defense is still great and they still look outstanding. You know,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: would you rather have a couple of red zone stops
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: in there?
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: Sure.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: But they're they're they're giving up 20 plus 20 yard
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: touchdown drives.
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Zero yard touchdown drives. That's not even the defense, obviously.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: So the defense is still really good. And that's usually
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: the part of the team that's a little bit less stable.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: It's hard to have an elite defense year over year,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: but they still look great. So at this point, yeah,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: like it's, it's a little bit like CJ Stroud in
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: the playoffs last year where it's like, Hey man, if
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: you just take care of the ball, like you're going
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: to win some games. That Texans defense is incredible. Just,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: just don't turn it over against new England and against Pittsburgh.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: So yeah, like you want Darnold to play cleaner, but
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: it's not like he hasn't made some of these mistakes,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: you know, in Minnesota in 2024 or even last year,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: you know, four interception game against the Rams and everything
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: where they still had a chance to win. So I
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: think the big thing for Darnold is you want to
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: find more, explosives. You want to find more. You want
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: him to get the ball to the other options besides JSN.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: You want the whole offense to just be better, as
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: well as Darnold taking care of the ball. But yes,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: if you just took out the turnovers, Seattle might be 5-0.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: They probably are 5-0 if you just took out the turnovers.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: But you also want this offense to find their rhythm
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: and be able to spread the ball around a little
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: bit more as well.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: I think it's 20 and 21 points given up by
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: the offense off turnovers.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: In the two losses. And they've lost by less than
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: five points combined in the two games. So I think
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: that's what you said is nails. It's bang on.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: The thing about JSN that's interesting, he's about the same
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: catch rate in terms of, you know, he's 37 versus
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: 34 in terms of catches this year versus last year.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: It's the drop-off of the other guys.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Cooper Cupp has 11 fewer receptions than he did a
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: year ago through five games, and then nobody else is
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: even on the radar screen. And, you know, I made
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: the comparison to a point to the Rams a little bit.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, when Puka's in the lineup, it's all Puka. And,
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, I know 23 was a huge target rate.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: We saw a record on Monday. But even when he's,
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: you know, it doesn't matter if it's 23 or 15,
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Puka gets all the targets. The difference is they have
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: Devontae Adams, who's a red zone target and does see
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: the ball, and about 18 tight ends. I think they're
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: the first team ever to go to 18 personnel, right,
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: with all the tight ends. So it's like they.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: Have all that.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: Seattle feels like it needs more, not just the running game,
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: but they need more from some other receivers.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: They definitely do. And I was just bringing this up
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: on our show today with, say, Drake May and the
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Patriots when A.J. Brown comes back. You know, the Patriots,
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: it feels like the last couple of weeks found their
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: rhythm and Drake May spreads the ball around. And then
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: it's a good thing that A.J. Brown's coming back. But
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: sometimes when you have an alpha receiver, how does that
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: affect the quarterback? We even saw that with Stafford at
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: points in his career when he had Calvin Johnson versus
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: not having Calvin Johnson. He almost... started playing cleaner without
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Calvin Johnson, because he was just like, all right, I
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: just got to read it out. I just got to
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: go play football.
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: You don't.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: And it's not that it's not even that I hate
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: the narratives that get built with receivers because of like, there,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: there've been some vocal receivers through the years, Keyshawn Johnson,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Terrell Owens. It's not like JSN is like, man, I
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: got to get mine. You know, it's not even that
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: it's just the quarterback feels like, Hey, this dude's, this
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: dude's incredible.
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: I have to get him the ball. But is that
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: to the detriment of Cooper Cup and Rashid Shaheen? So
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: that's the balance I think this offense needs to find.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: And coaches use the word balance all the time when
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: it comes to offenses. And a lot of times it's
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: described as like 50-50 run-pass ratio. Balance to me is
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: the ability to answer what the defense is giving you.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: So if they're saying run the ball, you can run
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: the ball effectively. If they're giving you the deep ball,
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: you can throw the deep ball. If they're giving you
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: the short stuff, you throw the short stuff. And that's
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: where this offense is lacking is if they're taking away JSN, okay,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: who's winning? Who's Who's open? Who's Donald looking for? Are
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: there enough plays for those guys? You know, even, you know, A.J.
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: Barner.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: And I'll say this. It did feel like last year,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Clint Kubiak, when the offense hit that lull, it's like, OK,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: he just steamed open A.J. Barner for an explosive. And
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: it was Kubiak had this feel for the right play
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: at the right time. And if there was a lull,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: it's like, hey, here you go. Let's get back on track.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: And so maybe that's one of those things that's lacking.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: And it's just right play, right time, you know, steam
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: one up. That's more X's and O's than Jimmy's and Joe's,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: and that gets you back on track. And that's right.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: It just feels like it's very JSN heavy right now,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: which is fine. It was last year as well. But
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: you're getting more from everyone else when they were given opportunities,
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: and I think they just have to find that balance.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: And I'm a little surprised we haven't seen more Barner.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: I'm a little surprised Arroyo hasn't been more involved. We'll
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: see what happens tonight. Before I let you go, Steve,
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: Steve Palazzolo, 3013, check the Mike podcast. Denver, a lot
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: has been made about the offense and who's calling plays.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: They're 30th in total offense, but look at the total defenses.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: Their defense is 22nd. The only good number they have,
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: and they're just basic numbers, is their pass defense is 9th,
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: but no Sertan, no Hufanga tonight. With Denver right now,
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: is it a problem with the offense, defense, both?
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: What do you think?
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: The problems are the offense and their run defense. They're tackling.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: It started night one when they missed. Next Gen had
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: it with 28 missed tackles. They gave up. 90% of
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: the passing yards were after the catch. Ken Walker killing
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: them last week. They let Kamani Vidal run through them
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: and Beast Quake in for a touchdown. So the run
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: defense has been bad for Denver. And then offensively, Bo
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Nix is in a slump. He's playing with tendencies that
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: he's had previously, but he would come out of them.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: He'd have a rough half and then have a good
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: second half or a good fourth quarter. I think they've
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: had two good halves of play, basically. A half against
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Jacksonville and a half against the Rams on Sunday Night Football.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: That's about it. Other than that, I think Bo Nix
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: is playing a little rushed, not trusting what he's seeing.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if that's a play caller thing.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it is necessarily, but they've got
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: on paper, good playmakers, a good offensive line in a
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: year three quarterback who's played pretty well for the last
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: two years, a little up and down Bo Nix, but
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: he's played pretty well and he's regressed a bit this year.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: So I think they can come out of it at
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: any time, but that's on Sean Payton, the new play
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: caller to find what's going to work, how we're going
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: to see Bo Nix see in the field. and throwing
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: the ball down the field more. He's got the lowest
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: average depth of target in the NFL right now. And
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: so I think they have the ability to come out
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: of it. I don't think they do it tonight against
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Seattle's defense, but Denver's offense has definitely been one of
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: the bigger disappointments so far this season.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: Real fast, if Seattle can't run against these guys, no
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: matter who the running back is, whether it's Wilson, whether
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: it's Helani, whether it's Henry, whether it's Phelous Jones, if
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: they can't run against these, because everyone's going to be
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: talking about Sertan being out, what that's going to be,
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Hufanga being out. They've got another corner who's questionable. Seattle
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: should be able to get at least a little something
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: going in the run game, right?
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: They should be able to. They should be able to
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: against this team. But if Seattle can't run because that's
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: been their weakness and they have to line up and
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: chuck it, someone's got to win one-on-ones against their backup corners.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: I think Seattle's offense should have, as long as Darnold
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: takes care of the ball, they'll have more success tonight
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: against Denver.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: Tell people about Check the Mic podcast. They're going to
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: do a great job. Yeah, exactly.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: AFC West throwback. It feels like it should be in
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: the Kingdome or something is what I wish we were
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: seeing here.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: I miss the Kingdome, Steve. I miss the old cement roof.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: What do you tell people on the Check the Mic podcast? Yeah,
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Check the Mic, anywhere you listen to your podcast. And
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: then on YouTube, we just previewed every game today on
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Check the Mic. It's already out there. So go check
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: us out.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: I listened to it on the way in. It's great stuff.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: Thank you, my friend. We'll talk to you next week.
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 39:02
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  Speaker 4: We'll come back. We'll check in with our guy, Brandon Funston.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Yes, a quick, quick segment with Funston coming up next.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, I'm going to answer a question right off the get-go.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: I'm going to answer a question right off the get-go.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: This comes in just moments ago from the 206. If
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: Funston isn't on at his regular time, it's not as
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: long a segment, no phone calls, is it still the
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: unofficial start of the weekend?
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: Hell, yeah. It just starts earlier. Funston, are you good
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: with that? Ashley is. Are you good with that? Yeah,
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: let's roll.
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: We've got eight minutes, I hear. So let's just trim
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: the fat and let's get right to it.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: Let me start with just a general question. We've got
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: a bunch of texts on the line, and one of
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: them's got me highly disturbed. I'll just tell you that
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: right now. Before we get to those, this is Joe Burrow,
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: Jared Goff, Kyler Murray, and then the Dolphins. There's a
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: lot of buys this week, but let's just look at
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: the quarterbacks. Who are some quarterbacks, if you have a
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: buy week this week and you're looking for a quarterback
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: that may be flying under the radar that people can
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: pick up?
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: It's actually a pretty good week, and yeah, Lamar Jackson
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: may be out, and Jalen Hurts is also out, so
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: it's a lot of quarterbacks out. It's a pretty good
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: week for just the one-week plug-and-play. I'm looking at Kirk
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: Cousins going against Buffalo. Buffalo's been very, I mean, they're
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: always in shootouts. They've been giving up a lot of
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: points to the opposing quarterback. Jameis Winston has.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: Had two really good games in a row.
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: He's going against New Orleans, who has the fastest-paced offense
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: in the league. That could be a high-scoring game as well.
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: You're going to get some turnovers probably from Jameis, but
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: you get a lot of good passing numbers along the way.
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers has been playing very well, and they've been
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: throwing vertically a lot more than Rodgers typically does because
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy has kind of brought that back. And even
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: Michael Penix is going against the Bears, and the Bears'
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: defense is looking terrible right now. So those are just
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: four widely available quarterbacks you can plug and play if
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: you're in a shallower league. I think Bryce Young and
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: Tyler Shuck are both top 12 quarterbacks fantasy quarterbacks this
• 41:50
  Speaker 6: week as well. So I think there's a lot of
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: options out there. Ashley, Tyler Shuck, refresh my memory. What
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: did he do last week?
• 41:57
  Speaker 7: Minus 0.1 for my friend.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: Oh, okay. Oh, it wasn't you. I thought it was you. No,
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: it wasn't me, thank goodness. No, I had other bigger issues,
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: but that was funny.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the text line. 49451 with Funston.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: And like I said, I've got one that says, I'm
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: just going to start with a very disturbing text. You know,
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: sometimes you get a text from a friend or a
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: family member, and it's like, boy, that's dark.
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: That's disturbing. I've got one for you, Funston. You ready?
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: Let's go.
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: Can you say three in a row, baby? Let's go.
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: No.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: Jordan Love or Lamar Jackson.
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: No.
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: Rob in Burien.
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: You know, it cracks me up that he's going for
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: three in a row and he doesn't even know that
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson's probably not going to play. I think you've
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: got to go with Jordan Love just because I don't
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: think he's going to play. But if for some reason
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: he were to play, I would roll with him. But
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: you're going to have that. You're going to find that
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: out because Green Bay plays on Sunday night, so you'll.
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: Have time to find out on Lamar. Go with Lamar
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: if he plays.
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: I don't think he will.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: Like I said, Robin Burian.
• 43:10
  Speaker 6: Let's just get uncharted territory there. That's crazy.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: We're talking like just a disturbing thought. Robin Burian. There
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: you go, buddy. I don't know what world we're living
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: in right now. Need two half PPR. Adunze, Tate, DJ Moore,
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: or Love the running back?
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: Need two.
• 43:31
  Speaker 6: Man, that's a lot of banged up guys there. I'm
• 43:33
  Speaker 6: going to go with Adunze. It looks like Caleb Williams
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: is going to be back. That's going to raise his
• 43:36
  Speaker 6: ceiling a bit. And then I'm probably going DJ Moore,
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: because it sounds like Jeremiah Love, they kind of want
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: to slow his roll a bit and get his ankle
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: all the way right. So it sounds like Tyler Algier
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: is going to continue kind of way in there. DJ
• 43:50
  Speaker 6: Moore might not play, though, in which case I probably
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: would go with Jeremiah Love. But if he does play,
• 43:56
  Speaker 6: go with DJ Moore.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: The Roma Dunza experience is something I have not enjoyed
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: this year. I'm just going to tell you that right now.
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: It's a roller coaster.
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: It's been that way his whole career too, right? He
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: hasn't had like a, I mean, he goes like five
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: games of good, five games of bad. And yeah, it's
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: all over the place.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: Let's go back. Caleb Williams expected to play. Is that
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: what you said?
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the way it's trending.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: Okay. Let me go down. I just hit refresh and
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: my apologies. We had a couple that were right.
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: How about this? Andy from Redmond. Again, we love when
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: you attach your name, by the way. And remember to
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: attach your name even better. Full PPR. Need one for
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: a flex. E. Wilson running back. So, Emmanuel Wilson. He
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: actually told me that, which is good. Xavier Worthy. Bernard
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: from Pittsburgh or Lloyd from Green Bay? Need one for
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: a flex. Worthy, Bernard, Wilson, or Lloyd?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm going to go with Emmanuel Wilson because Charbonnet's
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: not back. We're going to get a big workload again,
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: and Denver has not been good against the run. And
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: they're also out with Patrick Sertan, so... A little more
• 45:00
  Speaker 6: vulnerable against the pass, too. I just think that's going
• 45:02
  Speaker 6: to open things up. So I like the workload for Wilson.
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: David Wonders, full PPR, need two of three. Judkins, E. Wilson,
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: and DJ Moore need two of the three.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Wilson's the only one that's for sure going to play.
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: Judkins is probably leaning more towards the doubtful. So if
• 45:21
  Speaker 6: they're both playing, I'm going to go DJ Moore. And
• 45:24
  Speaker 6: you might have your hand forced, and you might have
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: to really hope that they One of those other two
• 45:29
  Speaker 6: actually do play. You might need another fourth option to
• 45:32
  Speaker 6: get a viable play out there.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: Our buddy Kendrick from Renton says, I need two for
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: flex spots. Ted McMillan, Waddle Cup, Stevenson, or Dubs?
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: Or Dubs? Romeo Dubs.
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: Dubs. I need two. Two. Two.
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  Speaker 6: Two. Give me Ted McMillan. I don't really want to
• 45:50
  Speaker 6: do it.
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  Speaker 5: I mean.
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: Denver's been awful on offense, and they're going against Seattle,
• 45:55
  Speaker 6: and Waddle's been rough, so give me the Dobbs. I'm
• 45:59
  Speaker 6: going to go with Romeo Dobbs this week.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: Start two full PPR, Michael Wilson, Denzel Boston, DJ Moore, again,
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: injured maybe, or Malik Neighbors.
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: Well, you can't sit Malik Neighbors. They're putting him into
• 46:10
  Speaker 6: the slot, and he's just gone crazy. He was targeted
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: 20 times last week, so Malik Neighbors is number one.
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: Number two is Michael Wilson, and who was it right
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  Speaker 6: after that?
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  Speaker 4: DJ Moore, Michael Wilson, Denzel Boston, Malik Neighbors. DJ Moore, Denzel, yeah.
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: So Wilson, Boston, Moore, Neighbors.
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  Speaker 6: Michael Wilson against the Rams. I don't love that. So
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: I kind of like Denzel Boston. Honestly, he's not hurt.
• 46:33
  Speaker 6: DJ Moore is iffy. Denzel Boston has a 25-yard catch
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  Speaker 6: or longer in every game this year, which is kind
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: of nice. So if you're in the PPR league, that's
• 46:42
  Speaker 6: just one catch. It gets you three and a half
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  Speaker 6: points right off the bat.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: We've got a quarterback question. Rodgers, Herbert, or Brissette?
• 46:51
  Speaker 6: Uh, let's go with Aaron Rogers.
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: What world are we living in? Rob's winning Aaron Rogers
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: over Justin. I mean, you can't, heads are falling off.
• 47:00
  Speaker 6: Justin Herbert is as bad a quarterback play as you
• 47:03
  Speaker 6: can get right now until, until they show us anything.
• 47:06
  Speaker 6: He's just been horrible.
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  Speaker 4: Until proven otherwise.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, half point PPR need two of these guys. Uh,
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: Jeremy Bernard, uh, Krosky Merritt, Jalen Waddle, Dalton Kincaid.
• 47:23
  Speaker 6: Half-point PPR, you said. Okay, I'm going to go ahead
• 47:26
  Speaker 6: and go with... This is tough. I'm going to go
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: with Jeremy Bernard and Dalton Kincaid.
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: Caleb Williams or Bryce Young?
• 47:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I like Caleb Williams just a little bit better.
• 47:44
  Speaker 6: But I like them both as top 10-ish plays this week.
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: Bryce Young, has he busted out a little bit this year?
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: He's kind of.
• 47:52
  Speaker 6: He definitely has. David Canales has kind of been like
• 47:56
  Speaker 6: the Liam Cohen for the Panthers and has been great
• 48:00
  Speaker 6: for Bryce Young. So, yeah, he's right up there. I
• 48:03
  Speaker 6: don't have the numbers in front of me, but I
• 48:04
  Speaker 6: have to say he's like a top five, top six
• 48:07
  Speaker 6: fantasy quarterback on a per-game basis.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: Carnell Tate, Xavier Worthy.
• 48:11
  Speaker 6: I'm going to go. I'll tell you, if Rasheed Rice plays,
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: I probably am going to go with Carnell Tate. If
• 48:22
  Speaker 6: Rasheed Rice doesn't play, then I think that puts Xavier
• 48:24
  Speaker 6: Worthy in a bigger role. So that's how I would
• 48:27
  Speaker 6: play it. Right now, Rice, probably going to be a
• 48:29
  Speaker 6: game-time decision.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: What's the status of Jordan Addison with Justin Jefferson out?
• 48:36
  Speaker 6: Well, and he's a little bit banged up, too. And so,
• 48:39
  Speaker 6: I mean, early in the year when they were both
• 48:43
  Speaker 6: together and even last week, Addison kind of disappears when
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: Jefferson gets on the field. So I have him way down.
• 48:49
  Speaker 6: I don't think I have him in my top He's
• 48:52
  Speaker 6: like borderline top 40 for me. So not a great
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: play this week.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: And I think that was actually a futures question because
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: they're both on bye week as well.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: Let me get two more in. If Rasheed Rice and
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: DJ Moore are out, they need two PPR. Damian Pierce,
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: Darius Cooper, Kendrick Bourne, Kenny Gainwell, Demario Douglas.
• 49:10
  Speaker 6: Kendrick Bourne, Kenny Gainwell, and you need two?
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 49:16
  Speaker 6: I'm going to go Kendrick Bourne. Kind of stepped up
• 49:18
  Speaker 6: last week with no Marvin Harrison. um it's probably a
• 49:22
  Speaker 6: safe for five catches not you're not gonna get rich
• 49:25
  Speaker 6: and man i i don't love damon pierce but they
• 49:28
  Speaker 6: have nothing in that offense it's gonna be a lot
• 49:31
  Speaker 6: of at least a lot of handoffs to him it
• 49:34
  Speaker 6: could be a Could be a 15 for 40 rushing
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: yards kind of deal, but maybe get lucky with a touchdown.
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: I think that's your best bet of the rest of
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: those guys.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to get a couple more, and you've
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: got to find it. And, Ashley, the one you just
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: texted me, you get that in a second to wrap
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: it up. Justin in Granite Falls says, Jordan Love or
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: Bryce Young?
• 49:52
  Speaker 6: Jordan Young or Bryce Young. Jordan Love or Bryce Young.
• 49:59
  Speaker 6: You know, I like the shootout potential against Dallas, and
• 50:01
  Speaker 6: Jordan Love was just bombing the ball down the field
• 50:04
  Speaker 6: last week with a lot of success, so I kind
• 50:07
  Speaker 6: of like the way that's looking. Give me Jordan Love.
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: When the hell is Kyle Pitts going to be Kyle
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: freaking Pitts? Him or Henry, says Ryan in Scottsdale. I'm
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: probably going to go Henry.
• 50:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, Kyle Pitts hasn't been great with Pennix
• 50:21
  Speaker 6: as the quarterback. Drake London goes off when Pennix is there,
• 50:24
  Speaker 6: but it hasn't really worked out for Kyle Pitts. He
• 50:27
  Speaker 6: had a decent game last time out, but generally, I'd
• 50:31
  Speaker 6: rather go with Hunter Henry.
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: Ashley?
• 50:33
  Speaker 7: Our friend Derek Insulton chiming in on the text line.
• 50:36
  Speaker 7: He said, Samson from the Browns or Kay Miller from
• 50:40
  Speaker 7: the Saints?
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: PPR.
• 50:43
  Speaker 6: Well, if Samson's playing and Quinshawn Jenkins isn't, and it's PPR,
• 50:48
  Speaker 6: Samson does have a nice PPR game, and he could
• 50:50
  Speaker 6: actually lead the team in touches. They have Jaleel McLaughlin,
• 50:54
  Speaker 6: but Samson would be probably ahead of him. So give
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: me Samson.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: I'm just curious for tonight's matchup. Who do you have
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: ranked higher, Bo Nix or Sam Darnold tonight?
• 51:04
  Speaker 6: I would go Sam Darnold, especially with Sertan out.
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: Nice.
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: That's our preview of the Seahawks-Broncos, courtesy of Funson. And
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: you like Emmanuel Wilson to run a little bit tonight.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: I do. I do.
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: But, yeah. I love it.
• 51:19
  Speaker 6: NFL can turn things on us here quickly.
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: Fustin, that's not what I need to hear. You're here
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: for being an expert.
• 51:28
  Speaker 6: I get naturally nervous about the Seahawks, so I have
• 51:31
  Speaker 6: a hard time saying things positive. I've got to caveat it.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: All right, back to the regular time next week at
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: 2 o'clock. We've got some logistics we'll figure out. We'll
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: figure that out off the air. In the meantime, what
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: can people do to get more information?
• 51:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, come to The Athletic and make your way to
• 51:46
  Speaker 6: the fans' football page, and you'll get a ton of
• 51:48
  Speaker 6: stuff to help you get ready for the weekend ahead.
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: Love it. Perfect. We'll talk to you next week. Thanks, buddy.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: Sounds good. Have a good one.
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: That's fun.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: So we'll come back and put a wrap on our
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: show before Dick Fane next.