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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 181 | Getting the Jaguars on Track in AFC South Race · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to jag Van this morning.
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Speaker 2: Kind on a seat in Brian Sexton, John Osier Wigney today,
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Speaker 2: as we talk a little bit about the Jaguars heading
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Speaker 2: into the Spy Week, they're gonna have some time off
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Speaker 2: the recap regroup, try to go over some things after
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Speaker 2: two kind of frustrating losses two weeks in a row.
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Speaker 2: Let's start out with our big things today, brought to
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Speaker 2: employees and retire Week. The big thing, number one is
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Speaker 2: you got to get healthy. A lot of these issues
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Speaker 2: kind of started springing up when injuries took place. Trayvon
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Speaker 2: Walker dislocating his wrist, had to get surgery on that,
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Speaker 2: and of course Brenton Strange has been missing as he's
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Speaker 2: on IR now with a hip injury, and Brian I
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Speaker 2: don't know if at all be fixed after the break.
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Speaker 2: Obviously it'll take some time to work back, specifically for
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Speaker 2: Brenton's Strange, but they gotta get those two guys back.
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Speaker 2: I think those are two big missing pieces.
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Speaker 3: And the key with Trayvon is to not have that
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Speaker 3: full club and maybe have a brace or something where
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Speaker 3: he can actually use his fingers. When you go on IR,
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Speaker 3: you have to be going at least four games, so
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Speaker 3: Vegas would be the first opportunity that the Jaguars could
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Speaker 3: possibly bring him back to the active roster. But there's
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Speaker 3: other guys too. Eric Murray's got a neck that's been
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Speaker 3: bothering him now for a couple of weeks, and Robert
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Speaker 3: Haines he had the hamstring and baseial tooton the shoulder.
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Speaker 3: There are just some guys who are banged up, so
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Speaker 3: hopefully these two weeks give them a chance to get
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Speaker 3: back on the field somewhere closer to one hundred percent.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's always guys that I'm covering a game and
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Speaker 4: there's the Jaguars players down. I can't see the number.
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Speaker 4: There's always a handful of guys you don't want on
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Speaker 4: that list. There's three for me this year, forty one,
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Speaker 4: eighty five and forty four, and two of those guys
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Speaker 4: have been hurt, So I do think that matters. It
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Speaker 4: can't be everything, but getting healthy I think will help
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Speaker 4: this team, especially with Strange and Walker, be a more
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Speaker 4: physical team that they were in the first four games.
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Speaker 2: Definitely, always the folks of the bye week is to
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Speaker 2: get healthy big thing Number two is going to be overcorrect.
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Speaker 2: So while we're frustrated with the past couple of weeks performances,
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Speaker 2: it's important to remember the team is four and three.
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Speaker 1: John. You don't want to overcorrect. You're still doing a
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Speaker 1: lot of things right.
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Speaker 2: It's more about getting back to what they had been
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Speaker 2: doing right the first couple of weeks.
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Speaker 4: Well, the buzz work earlier in the week was we
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Speaker 4: can't or the buzz words where we can't reinvent the wheel,
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Speaker 4: and they say that, and it's true, because you can't.
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Speaker 4: There's no time to do it, so there's no reason
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Speaker 4: to even try. Look, the things that they're doing are
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Speaker 4: not bad things, they're just not doing them well, meaning
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Speaker 4: you know, pre snap avoidables, operation errors, those who have
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Speaker 4: been the key And frankly, they have to figure out
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Speaker 4: a way to go from seven sacks allowed to one
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Speaker 4: or two. I don't think they're a great offensive line, Brian,
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Speaker 4: in terms of being able to withstand.
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Speaker 1: Pressure if the scoreboards against them.
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Speaker 4: But they got to figure out a way to not
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Speaker 4: be a seven sack team, and I think that's being
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Speaker 4: in better situations offensively.
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Speaker 3: Obviously, we've talked at length about the penalties you know, John,
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Speaker 3: the Vegas game the Sunday after the buye, it has
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Speaker 3: a bullsoun It's a very important game because the Jaguars
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Speaker 3: will not have won for almost two month since having
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Speaker 3: beaten Kansas City. They haven't played good football. You mentioned
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Speaker 3: the sacks. They've not gotten any sacks the last two games.
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Speaker 3: They got no takeaways either. They couldn't run the ball,
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Speaker 3: they fell behind early, they made mental mistakes. So there's
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Speaker 3: a lot of things that have been working against them.
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Speaker 3: The Raiders don't appear to be a very good football
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Speaker 3: team this year. They get beat thirty one to nothing
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Speaker 3: in Kansas City last Sunday, but that doesn't mean they
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Speaker 3: won't be ready to play when the Jaguars roll in there.
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Speaker 3: And the Jaguars lost there last year. So there's a
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Speaker 3: lot riding on what the Jaguars get done this week
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Speaker 3: and then their preparation next week as they get ready
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Speaker 3: to resume in Vegas.
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Speaker 1: Good point.
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Speaker 2: Our final big thing is road Warriors. You mentioned they're
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Speaker 2: going on the road when they get that bye week
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Speaker 2: to go to Las Vegas, but three out of four
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Speaker 2: games are going to be on the roads. They're on
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Speaker 2: the road in Vegas, they're on the road in Houston,
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Speaker 2: they come back and play the Chargers, and then they're
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Speaker 2: going on the road to.
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Speaker 1: Play the Cardinals.
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Speaker 2: So, Brian, I think the first part of the schedule
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Speaker 2: is probably the toughest when I looked at it, but
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Speaker 2: this kind of stretch was also a little bit daunting.
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Speaker 3: Listen, if they get back to playing good football, I
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Speaker 3: am firmly confident that they'll be able to succeed away
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Speaker 3: from Jacksonville. But you know, we just mentioned that Raiders game,
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Speaker 3: and then you got the Texans the week after and
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Speaker 3: the Jaguars. As we know, it's been a long time
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Speaker 3: since they've beaten the Texans in back to back weeks.
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Speaker 3: It's been sent our pardon me twice in the same season.
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Speaker 3: It's been since twenty seventeen since they have done that.
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Speaker 3: So that's a huge game with a lot of implications,
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Speaker 3: and then you come home to get the Chargers before
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Speaker 3: those other road games. I mean, it's yes, you had
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Speaker 3: a stretch where you had the Niners and the Chiefs
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Speaker 3: and the Rams and the Seahawks, but it doesn't necessarily
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Speaker 3: start easier in the second half.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, they have to play well. If they play well,
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Speaker 4: they're fine on the road. They went to San Francisco
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Speaker 4: in one. They should have be Cincinnati up there. I
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Speaker 4: don't think this team has a road thing. I think
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Speaker 4: they have a not playing very well thing right now.
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Speaker 4: So the buy is at a perfect time, as they say,
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Speaker 4: so I don't worry about the location of those games
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Speaker 4: after the buye. I worry about them getting back to
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Speaker 4: playing well.
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Speaker 2: All right, Stay with us here on jag ZAMM. Coming
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Speaker 2: up after the break, We're gonna go over some of
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Speaker 2: the strengths and the struggles the team's been going through
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Speaker 1: On jags am.
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Speaker 2: And it's bye week, So we're gonna look back and
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Speaker 2: we're fleshed a little bit about the first seven weeks
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Speaker 2: of what we've seen in Jaguars football so far this year.
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Speaker 2: So we're gonna do a pro con. We're gonna do
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Speaker 2: strength and a struggle. So, Brian, what's the strength and
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Speaker 2: the struggle you've seen from the team so far Gone.
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Speaker 3: Has instituted his brand of football right. They started four
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Speaker 3: in one. They won in San Francisco, where they had
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Speaker 3: never won before. They beat Kansas City on Monday Night Football.
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Speaker 3: They're playing a physical brand of football, which is exactly
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Speaker 3: what he promised when they hired him. Look, I mean
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Speaker 3: he hasn't turned it all the way around, because we
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Speaker 3: saw the game in London and that looked like some
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Speaker 3: of the old Jaguars. But it's hard to be in
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Speaker 3: this building. It's hard to not see how he has
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Speaker 3: turned this thing in the direction that he wants to
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Speaker 3: take it. It may take him more than this year,
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Speaker 3: may take him into next year to get it where
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Speaker 3: he really wants it to be. But I think he's
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Speaker 3: been the highlight at this point. He really has brought
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Speaker 3: an energy and you can see that his team rallies
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Speaker 3: around him, and he's a transparent guy. What he says
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Speaker 3: is we've seen in his postgame speeches that he allows
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Speaker 3: us to tape in the locker room. Win or lose
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Speaker 3: is the exact same thing that he says to the media.
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Speaker 3: So I think he's been hit. I think they've nailed
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Speaker 3: this one, and that's been the pro from the first
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Speaker 3: part of the season so far.
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Speaker 1: Hard to argue that.
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Speaker 2: I think just his transparency as a whole has been
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Speaker 2: really helpful this year.
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Speaker 1: Good and bad. Good.
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Speaker 2: So now he went the bat, Yes, well, what are
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Speaker 2: they gonna work on? What's an improvement?
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Speaker 3: That's a better way to put it. The quarterback he's
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Speaker 3: played okay, right, he's been. He's not a top ten quarterback.
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Speaker 3: He's not a bottom ten quarterback either. He's right in
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Speaker 3: the middle average. But he hasn't played great. And he's
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Speaker 3: your franchise guy, and you need to get him from
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Speaker 3: good to great. And there's two or three plays in
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Speaker 3: every game that you can go back and point to
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Speaker 3: and say, what was he thinking right there? The one
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Speaker 3: that I point out the most is Brenton's strange lined
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Speaker 3: up behind him on the goal line against Kansas City,
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Speaker 3: not to lift him over the top, right, He's supposed
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Speaker 3: to put a shoulder out and go. Instead he jumps up,
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Speaker 3: loses the ball on the goal line. There's just little
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Speaker 3: things like that that he has to clean up. John.
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Speaker 3: This guy is he's supposed to be the franchise quarter back,
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Speaker 3: and I get it, guys drop balls. The running game
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Speaker 3: hasn't worked. Brighton Strange has been out, but if the
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Speaker 3: Jaguars are going to get this thing going in the
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Speaker 3: second half of the season, they need him to play,
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Speaker 3: to use a coaching term, a little bit more above
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Speaker 3: the x's and o's.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and Liam talks about playing well in the gray,
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Speaker 4: and he hasn't always played well in the gray. Played
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Speaker 4: okay at times against Kansas City. He has lifted them
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Speaker 4: at times and situations, but he hasn't played well in
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Speaker 4: the gray.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if he will.
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Speaker 4: He needs to, and I think it's it's a huge
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Speaker 4: in the last ten games. I agree with you his
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Speaker 4: ability to be above the x's and o's to make
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Speaker 4: instinctive things. At some point a quarterback has to do it,
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Speaker 4: and he hasn't done it enough.
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Speaker 2: That's become a little more institual for sure. John, what
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Speaker 2: is what's your strength? What have you seen from the well?
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Speaker 4: You know this may be a little too vague for
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Speaker 4: the question, but the quality wins. I mean, yeah, they
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Speaker 4: beat Carolina, who's now four and three, They beat San Francisco,
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Speaker 4: and they beat yeah, Kansas City.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you picked teams.
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Speaker 4: From conferences, the best three teams in the NFL the
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Speaker 4: last five year or that's four than the Bills, the Niners.
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Speaker 1: The Chiefs, and probably the Eagles, right, but they beat
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Speaker 1: two of them.
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Speaker 4: So I don't think you can take away the fact
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Speaker 4: that there are formulas and when this team plays a
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Speaker 4: certain way, they can play with those guys.
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Speaker 1: That means, you.
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Speaker 4: Know, everybody plays this game where they're gonna win what
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Speaker 4: they're gonna lose. Who's you know, Well, they can beat
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Speaker 4: any team on the schedule because they beat Kansas City
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Speaker 4: and San Francisco, but they have to play that way.
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Speaker 4: So finding a way to get back to what works
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Speaker 4: for you is the key.
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Speaker 2: And the second half the season, yes, especially because when
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Speaker 2: we're looking at strength of schedule, it should be a
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Speaker 2: little bit easier on the back half.
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Speaker 4: But there's some power teams left and I think most
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Speaker 4: people are gonna write those games off.
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Speaker 3: I don't think they can.
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Speaker 4: With this team if they play their games and for
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Speaker 4: the needs to work on. You know, everybody knows where
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Speaker 4: I'm going with it. It's the little things. Robert Hainsey
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Speaker 4: talked this week about operational. You know, it's kind of
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Speaker 4: become the buzzword. They have been very good operationally. It's
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Speaker 4: an old coach's cliche but let's clean everything up and
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Speaker 4: see if we're any good or not, because right now
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Speaker 4: there's no way to know because they don't even get
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Speaker 4: to the situation to see if they're good. So until
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Speaker 4: they clean that up, I'm gonna be sitting on this
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Speaker 4: couch talking about it every week because you can't win
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Speaker 4: in the NFL with this team right now if you're
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Speaker 4: behind everything all the time.
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Speaker 3: It's an often used word and it's pretty vague, but consistency.
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Speaker 3: Right this team does not play consistent. They'll play up,
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Speaker 3: they'll play down, but they never seem to find that
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Speaker 3: level of consistency either running game. You know in the
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Speaker 3: past defense, what you were just saying is that they've
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Speaker 3: got to figure out how to play consistent football. And
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Speaker 3: that's when the coaches gonna be harping on that the
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Speaker 3: second half of the season.
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Speaker 2: No more penalties, No more penalties for me. I went
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Speaker 2: with their strength kind of being the buy in right.
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Speaker 2: So the last couple of years things have gone awry
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Speaker 2: and felt like everybody was kind of on their own.
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Speaker 1: I don't feel that out of this team. And even after.
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Speaker 2: Two bad losses and one really kind of a blowout
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Speaker 2: loss in London, you don't feel disjointed by it.
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Speaker 1: By any means.
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Speaker 2: I think everybody's taking responsibility for their part in this
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Speaker 2: and not pointing the finger at each other at this
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Speaker 2: point in the season, and for that, I think a
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Speaker 2: good team knows not to do that.
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Speaker 1: But it's more difficult than you realize.
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Speaker 2: When you're in it right it's very easy to be like.
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Speaker 1: Oh, well, this guy should have been doing whatever.
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Speaker 2: And they're not doing that right now, and I think
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Speaker 2: that's huge, And that's what good teams do, is they
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Speaker 2: find to figure out a way to fix what they're
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Speaker 2: doing and they don't point the finger at each other.
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Speaker 2: So for them, I'll give them a strength and character
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Speaker 2: of not letting things derail them.
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Speaker 1: And I don't think that they're going to.
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Speaker 2: I think after the buye we come expecting the good
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Speaker 2: outing in Las Vegas, and hopefully it'll prove me wrong.
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Speaker 2: But I think they'll be able to bounce back and
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Speaker 2: get a quality win there on the road against the
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Speaker 2: team that they should be in terms of a struggle.
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Speaker 2: And something I think they need to work on is
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Speaker 2: just getting in a flow. Everything feels really choppy right now.
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Speaker 2: They haven't been able to kind of end this penalties
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Speaker 2: involved as well, and there a little bit of the quarterback.
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Speaker 2: I think maybe both of your struggles combined into this.
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Speaker 1: But getting themselves going early, whether it's.
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Speaker 2: Even on defense, getting takeaways, flying around, getting their hands
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Speaker 2: on the football. They need to get back into that
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Speaker 2: aspect of their game where they're playing fast and they're
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Speaker 2: not sitting and thinking about every single thing they're doing,
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Speaker 2: because when they play like that, that's just not how
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Speaker 2: they're going to win football games.
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Speaker 3: To your point on buy in, I think that was
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Speaker 3: where the four and one start was so important. I mean,
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Speaker 3: you had guys that believed in the things that Liam
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Speaker 3: had been talking about, and they had results based on
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Speaker 3: all of their hard work that should carry them through
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Speaker 3: this two game stretch where things sort of fell apart.
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Speaker 1: If this team continues to.
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Speaker 4: Have buy in to make their bare minimum and nine
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Speaker 4: win take so, I think they will. I think they'll
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Speaker 4: end up nine or ten ish cause I don't think
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Speaker 4: they're gonna lose faith in the direction.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely stay with us.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk a little bit about what's been going
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Speaker 2: on in the AFC South.
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Speaker 1: You're on jack Zam.
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Speaker 2: It's on the bye week, so we're checking in a
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Speaker 2: little bit around the AFC South see what's going on,
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Speaker 2: so we can keep track of things.
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Speaker 1: And the Colts just keep on winning.
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Speaker 2: Every time I look over the box score, getting another
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Speaker 2: dub at six to one.
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Speaker 1: Now they're like your.
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Speaker 2: New right, I think at this point, like I wondered
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Speaker 2: whether they were legit or not, but they seem to
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Speaker 2: be legit.
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Speaker 3: Well, listen, we were talking about Daniel Jones and how
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Speaker 3: he's unlocked, Jonathan Taylor, who is among the better backs,
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Speaker 3: maybe the second best back in the league, although might
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Speaker 3: be the best back in the league. The shyercase sake
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Speaker 3: one Barkley is struggling. Yeah, but it's it's more than that.
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Speaker 3: Their offensive line. John has two very good tackles, Bernard Ryman,
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Speaker 3: the young left tackle and Braden Smith. And Quenton Nelson
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Speaker 3: has long been one of the better guards in the league,
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Speaker 3: and it looks like he's back to playing at his level.
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Speaker 3: But then there's the X factor and a guy that
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Speaker 3: I loved coming out in the draft, that's Tyler Warren,
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Speaker 3: the tight end they can use in so many different ways.
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Speaker 3: They've got this juice, this momentum going where they feel
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Speaker 3: it right now, and they are playing really good football,
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Speaker 3: beating good teams. They should have beaten the Rams in LA,
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Speaker 3: which tells you how good they're capable of being, and
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Speaker 3: then they go out and beat the Chargers in LA.
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Speaker 3: They should have two wins on that field this year.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're six and one and they had a couple
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Speaker 4: of wins. They're probably where they should be. I think
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Speaker 4: the Chiefs are starting to look again like the best
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Speaker 4: team in the AFC.
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Speaker 1: But the Colts are right there with him.
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Speaker 4: So the Jaguars task right now is going to be
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Speaker 4: to try to get the ship right, get back to
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Speaker 4: where they're two games behind him, so they're still in range.
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Speaker 4: Can pulling back in?
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Speaker 2: Did you?
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Speaker 4: Aways have a big task to stay within range of
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Speaker 4: the Colts until December because they're better than people thought,
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Speaker 4: and Daniel Jones has been the stabilizing factor there.
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Speaker 2: And it seems like as we look at the Texans
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Speaker 2: who fell on Monday Night football to a really good
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Speaker 2: Seahawks team though we just played, it seems like the
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Speaker 2: Coults are now the team that really needs to focus
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Speaker 2: on because the Texans seem to be going through some
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Speaker 2: struggles right now from maybe what was expected. They had
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Speaker 2: a tough end of their year last year, but now
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Speaker 2: they seem to be trying to figure things out.
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Speaker 4: Well, they're trying to get offense figured out, and they
15:32
Speaker 4: sort of reset a lot of things in the off season,
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Speaker 4: which you know, usually there's exceptions, but as we've seen here,
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Speaker 4: it takes offenses a while to get going, and they're
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Speaker 4: not going at all offensively. So the look the best
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Speaker 4: quarterback in divisions Jane Jones, which we would have thought
15:51
Speaker 4: because C. J. Stroud and Trevor Lawrence are sort of
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Speaker 4: middling right now and both frankly sort of look like
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Speaker 4: they're having the same sort of of trying to get
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Speaker 4: through this part of their career until they decide what
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Speaker 4: they are. So Texans are a good defense. But I thought,
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Speaker 4: if you watch this game, I'll go back to the Jags.
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Speaker 4: The Jags were better and can see how's the Texans work?
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Speaker 4: I thought, you know, and defensively, the Jaguars did not
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Speaker 4: get gashed in the running game, and it sort of
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Speaker 4: looked at times like the Texans couldn't stop their run.
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Speaker 4: So the Texans aren't done, but they have a steep
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Speaker 4: road to get back with the way they're playing offensively.
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Speaker 3: Yea, and they could be a couple of games behind
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Speaker 3: you by the time you see them again. It's the Colts.
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Speaker 3: The Colts still have to see the Chiefs. The Colts
16:36
Speaker 3: still have to see the Seahawks. The Colts still have
16:37
Speaker 3: to see the forty nine ers. There's an opportunity if
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Speaker 3: you start playing good football, for you to catch them
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Speaker 3: before you even play them and you see them twice.
16:45
Speaker 3: But the margin for error becomes narrow if you don't
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Speaker 3: start playing good football. Because the Colts, as you just said,
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Speaker 3: have the best quarterback in the division right now, and
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Speaker 3: people in New York are scratching their head saying, wait,
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Speaker 3: that's Daniel Jones, right, But Sayakwad Barkley always said, if
16:58
Speaker 3: you put that guy with a legitimate offensive line at
17:02
Speaker 3: a running game, he can do it.
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Speaker 1: And that's all way. Yeah, bears mentioned as well.
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Speaker 2: Mike Rabel returns to Tennessee and gets a big win
17:10
Speaker 2: because all of a sudden, the Patriots are not looking
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Speaker 2: so bad themselves.
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Speaker 1: Lean the AFC East, so I still think to this.
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Speaker 2: Day Mike Rabel not being this division was a huge
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Speaker 2: benefit to the Jaguars and every other team because from coach.
17:24
Speaker 3: They listen to. The Jaguars through their history have made their
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Speaker 3: share of errors where you scratch your head. In two
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Speaker 3: thousand and four they took Matt Jones instead of Aaron Rodgers, Right.
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Speaker 3: I mean, those sorts of things haunt you over time.
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Speaker 3: Oh Sorr two thousand and five, not having Mike Rabel,
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Speaker 3: letting that guy go. They're five and two his first
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Speaker 3: season up there, Drake May has played great football and
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Speaker 3: the Titans meanwhile, you know they've just fired their coach,
17:52
Speaker 3: so next year's a learning curve for a young quarterback.
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Speaker 3: We've seen this ship twenty one, twenty two here. They
18:00
Speaker 3: should never have fired Rabel. They should have given him
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Speaker 3: a chance to build it again, because boy, the Patriots
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Speaker 3: look like they're playing great football. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I think a lot of franchises fall into this. You know,
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Speaker 4: you have some success with Rabel, which they did, you
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Speaker 4: don't quite get there and you think, oh, we got
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Speaker 4: to blow the whole thing up. If we don't win
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Speaker 4: the Super Bowl, then you know we have failed on
18:21
Speaker 4: some level. You have failed if you win the Super Bowl.
18:23
Speaker 4: But on another level, you have to realize it's hard
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Speaker 4: to win that Super Bowl. They were consistent franchised with Rabel,
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Speaker 4: and uh, you know they're not right now, so they're
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Speaker 4: they don't.
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Speaker 3: Sometimes you don't recover from those mistakes, and for our sake,
18:39
Speaker 3: I hope that well, not just because I just remembered
18:41
Speaker 3: that it was you know four that the Jaguars took
18:44
Speaker 3: Reggie Williams a wide receiver instead of Ben Roethlisberger. Maybe
18:47
Speaker 3: you've heard of them. Super Bowl Mvpno. Five they passed
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Speaker 3: to Aaron Rodgers, and we know the Jaguars trajectory since
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Speaker 3: that moment in time. When you let these things wait,
18:58
Speaker 3: sometimes you don't recover from them big.
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Speaker 2: It's definitely hurting when you look and you play a
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Speaker 2: team like the Patriots or five and two right now,
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Speaker 2: and Rabel's got everything going, by the way, has klebon
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Speaker 2: Chase on playing amazing might be getting some big paycheck,
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Speaker 2: So that's interesting as well.
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Speaker 1: But say West, we'll tell you what's going on the
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Speaker 1: rest of the bye week after.
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19:32
Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome back to jag Zamits bye week.
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Speaker 2: So for the players, they have to have I think
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Speaker 2: four days off, so they have Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
19:39
Speaker 2: They'll be in here today and then they'll be off,
19:41
Speaker 2: which means we'll be off for a little bit as well.
19:43
Speaker 2: And you guys will have the weekend off obviously from
19:45
Speaker 2: Jaguars football. But what's everybody getting into for their bye week?
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Speaker 3: My youngest son plays small college football in Kansas and
19:51
Speaker 3: it's the bye weeknd they have a home game. So
19:53
Speaker 3: I am going to homecoming at Benedictine College.
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Speaker 4: Very nice, excited, head to North Carolina.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so John's on the move in one season on
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Speaker 1: the move, look out. I appreciate that.
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Speaker 2: So the shout outs John and Action are always my
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Speaker 2: favorite photos. I'm going to New England to see some
20:06
Speaker 2: family and I'm gonna get an apple cider donut and
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Speaker 2: I'm very much looking forward.
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Speaker 3: To I've said that about four times.
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Speaker 1: That must be amazing. I'm excited.
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Speaker 2: I can I can arrange that I may eat them
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Speaker 2: on the plane.
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Speaker 1: But I also made it's stale.
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Speaker 3: But that if there is good as if there as
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Speaker 3: good as she says.
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Speaker 1: It's probab, it's worth it. We hope you all enjoy
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Speaker 1: your weekend away.
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Speaker 2: Get into go, go to brunch, go to the farmers market,
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Speaker 2: do something you don't normally do on a Sunday, and
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Speaker 2: we'll be back next week to talk more Jaguars football