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“They Don’t Ask How. They Only Ask How Many”. The CFL Outsiders S03 E010 · The CFL Outsiders

• 0:36
  Hey kids, welcome back to another episode of the CFL Outsiders.
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  I remain as always your 100% impartial,
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  completely unbiased, and frankly right tuckered out from completing another
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  lap around the sun. Host Old Man Shouting at Clouds.
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  With me this week as usual are GT
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  Hey everyone, and as you know,
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  the sun's not yellow, it's chicken.
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  Yes. An MJ.
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  hey everyone. Happy to be here to talk football.
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  Okay, good. And unfortunately we have to start with something that's tangentially
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  football, but certainly not good news.
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  I'm sure by now most everyone has heard that there was an accident
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  on the weekend that took the lives of two young men,
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  Jaden Dalkey of the Rough Riders and Bishma.
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  Unfortunately I I will not be able to pronounce his last name,
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  so I will just spell it here. R-A-I-Y-A-G-U-R-U.
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  Bishmay was a recent Canadian,
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  well, I guess not Canadian, but had moved to Canada from India within
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  the last couple of years. And very unfortunate,
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  both of these young men lost their lives.
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  There's been a few facts come out about it that seem questionable and
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  an awful lot of speculation out there that at this point we just there's more
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  we don't know than we do know.
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  It certainly is it was questionable,
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  but I think that we want to, or at least I
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  Don't want to lose sight of the fact that what matters here is both these young men,
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  30 years old for Dalki and 22 for Bishma,
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  lost their lives and should still be with us.
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  It's just it's one of those things just isn't fair.
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  And the writers have announced that during the pregame show they're going
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  to be honoring Bishma and that they're doing whatever they can to support
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  his family through this. All I can say is from here our hearts go out.
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  to anyone who knew and loved either of these young men.
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  And I don't know that there's more to say.
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  Do either of you want to add anything to this?
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  This is this has been like really tough to take.
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  And I think what has actually upset me the most out of all of this
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  is the awful, awful comments that were made about Bhishma
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  by people who are CFL fans. And
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  Just you know what, be better humans and like that man didn't ask
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  for what happened to him. Okay.
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  I don't wanna place blame, but he was not at fault for this and so just ~ yeah,
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  be better and like what a what a tragedy.
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  his family had set up a GoFundMe to help with their funeral costs and get
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  his ~ body back to India and they have reached that goal and this the goal fund
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  me is shut down. But if you want to help out make
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  a donation to impaired driving charities make a donation to a charity
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  for new immigrants to Canada. I think both of those charities,
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  any of those charities would appreciate your help.
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  Yeah, obviously it's ~ i it at this point in time I consider it controversial
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  ~ more than anything else, only because we don't have all the details.
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  The one fact that I believe it's a fact ~ that they established was that Dulkey
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  was going the wrong way down a divided highway.
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  so to place any kind of blame on the other driver or
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  any kind of responsibility
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  or any kind of comment about the other driver is absolutely wrong.
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  and this this gentleman, Bishna had absolutely no idea what was about
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  to happen to him as he was doing what he should have been doing,
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  as far as we know, driving the right way on the right side of the highway.
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  So I'm a little surprised given the circumstances that they're already doing
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  all of this honoring.
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  ~ I would not be surprised if there was and this is only my speculation,
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  but I would not be surprised if there was a whole bunch of people
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  out running out and buying Jaden Dalke sweaters today and tomorrow and this week.
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  And my advice is wait a little while because you may not always want
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  to be wearing that later on. If the any of this information we have so
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  far been led to believe comes out as true.
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  And that's the same to the riders.
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  I'm a little surprised they're rushing to a tribute as early as Thursday.
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  I would not be doing that because three months from now it may not be
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  the same kind of tribute. When you don't have all the information,
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  wait till you have all the information before making a decision.
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  You can make the decision based on Vishna,
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  and I'm glad that they that they have decided to do that and do an o
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  do something in honor of him because again we know that he didn't have
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  any he wasn't doing anything wrong.
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  He is the victim. There are not two victims here.
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  There is one victim. Remember that that the other person is not a victim.
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  He's not a hero. He's simply at this point in time a football ex football player,
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  unfortunately, that was driving down the wrong side of the highway.
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  late at night, apparently. So,
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  having said all that, I do feel very badly for his family and his friends
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  and his acquaintances. That it's always tough to lose someone that you love.
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  And I appreciate what they're going through and that what they're going
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  to have to go through because we have to remember again,
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  they're gonna live with that memory as well.
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  So fully supportive of them, again,
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  I'm just a little surprised that people jump
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  to this conclusion and to this ~ resolution as quickly as they did and
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  as quickly as they do without having all the information.
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  That's what I have to say.
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  Yes, and
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  Moving on to more football type stuff,
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  but still not good news. the first game of the week ~ with BC at Edmonton
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  on BC's second play from scrimmage,
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  Nathan Rourke was sacked and got some sort of injury,
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  which has not yet been defined to his non throwing shoulder.
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  He sat out the entire game from that.
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  They've now come out and said that that injury will have him out for a while,
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  but the I believe the quote was,
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  We're talking weeks, not months.
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  So hopefully for the the best for the league and the Lions and everyone all around,
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  this is maybe a three week to a month kind of thing at the at the most.
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  And certainly won't help BC's chances.
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  Excuse me there. Certainly won't help BC's chances going forward.
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  Anything else for either you to say on that or do we just just getting
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  Well, I was we
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  the news out there?
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  were sitting I mean I guess we can talk about this game,
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  but we were s we were at the game and with my my husband and my dad are big
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  B C lion fans, we were sitting in the end zone,
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  right where BC walks in and out further.
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  And so we watched him walk past,
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  holding his arm. He was jogging a bit,
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  I was like, Okay, it's not lower body and then he came back out it was all
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  up in a sling, so tough, tough.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, it's ~
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  My dad didn't
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  even get to see him play because my dad was coming down the stands and
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  he missed so he didn't even get to see Rourke play and he'd been looking forward
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  to that so much. I hope he's back soon.
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  Yeah, there's it's another bad week for quarterbacks.
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  Obviously them ~ we're lucky that ~ that a couple of other guys didn't
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  get more injured 'cause a couple of guys like both Fajardo and and
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  VA got tossed around quite a bit in their game.
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  So they're a little they were they were a little bruised,
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  if nothing else, by the end of their game.
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  So considering how all the quarterbacks started this year,
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  we're lucky that we have well,
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  we're not lucky, but there's three down now and ~
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  it's gonna hurt the overall performance of of the game and of the league it's
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  not good news when we when we're losing starting quarterbacks.
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  So they've already signed a couple of guys from what I understand in
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  BC and they're added a couple of other NFL guys to their to their negotiation list
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  so they're searching for answers.
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  But it's Chase Brice I guess, or ~ you know,
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  him for the time being.
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  from here on in for the next little
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  Yes. Yeah. And and speaking of those quarterbacks,
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  the the other one with the new in the news was Zach who was injured
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  not this last week but the weekend before,
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  and he's officially been moved to the sixth game list now.
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  So it looks like it will be Drew Brown's show in Winnipeg till late August at least.
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  Well, ~ the quote from O'Shea is that he doesn't think ~ Zach will be
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  on for the entire six weeks. So it it
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  it's gonna be like
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  MBT's six-game injured list when if Drew's not doing well,
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  I think they'll just I thought they were already shuffling him back over
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  to active roster during the game.
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  it'll be interesting to see how long that they do have to run with with him,
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  but he's looked competent so far,
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  so I don't think they'll rush Zach back by any means.
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  And if he's gonna be the guy next year anyways,
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  they're they're gonna have to show some faith.
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  So I don't think they're gonna pull the plug out on him real real quick.
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  and that neck injury is reoccurring at this stage based on last year
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  and now this year. So you can't rush him back too soon.
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  So he might be out the full six week and even longer,
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  who knows? But at this point in time,
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  the what I heard the quote from O'Shea was that he's probably not going to
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  be out on the for the entire six week period.
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  ~ Yeah. And that's O'Shea. Who who knows?
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  Yeah, that's why that's why I qualified the state.
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  Yeah.
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  I if Drew had finished the the game this weekend the second half the
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  way he played in the first half,
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  they might be pushing Zach harder.
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  But he did come back and play better in the second half,
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  so maybe they'll be happy with him for a while yet.
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  We'll see. See what happens this week.
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  Lyrical eloquence are a bit where we stick in some song lyrics.
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  Again, with me all stuffed up and everything,
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  I just forgot all about it last week.
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  So I'm two weeks in a row, I haven't had any.
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  but we had no guesses on it. Was there any out there for takings?
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  Yeah, there was. I made it I made it pretty obvious that that I had that
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  I had made a I made one last week.
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  I just didn't know. It was as I said,
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  it wasn't totally obscure. It was a pretty big hit in Canada.
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  Of course it was Montreal calling by mobile from circa nineteen
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  two thousand and sevenish, two thousand and six,
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  two thousand and seven ish. and it was a pretty big hit for the band at that time.
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  And just based on those two games I ~ I figured that was a that
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  was a worthy contributor.
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  Yes.
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  ~ this week you this
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  Sounds good.
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  week you may find two lines dropped.
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  I will just let you know that.
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  MJ,
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  you didn't throw in your obligatory Taylor Swift line somewhere last week?
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  Every week I'm just saying every week I'm just gonna say Taylor Swift.
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  Yes I did.
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  It's like when we play trivial pursuit and you don't know the answers with
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  any of the American history, you just say Thomas Jefferson,
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  because nine out of time, ten times it's gonna be right.
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  Yeah, exactly.
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  So so yes, I'm just every time I just gonna say,
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  it's Taylor Swift. So ~
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  It was Taylor Slit.
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  Well, I mean I said Karma is a boy on the bombers,
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  but the original lyrics are Karma's a boy on the screen,
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  my screen, and then Taylor Swift changed it to Karma is a boy on the chiefs,
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  and so I just carried the thread to the bombers.
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  Y you carried
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  There you go. Close enough
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  Carried on with the poetic license,
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  yes indeed.
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  Ha ha ha ha
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  Yeah.
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  ha.
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  Okay. were not a NFL podcast, we're a CFL podcast,
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  but apparently my panel wants to talk some NFL,
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  starting with ~ MJ who had something about the NFL Players Association wanting more
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  grass now, maybe or
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  Well, yeah, so I don't know if you know,
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  but there was something called the World Cup recently in NFL stadiums in America.
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  Yes.
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  I th I thought it was I thought it was called a FIFA.
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  ~
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  I thought according to the
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  Yeah.
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  according to the glorious leader it was just a FIFA.
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  It was the and it was the best it was the best FIFA to buy four ever,
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  Yeah.
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  Right. Okay,
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  they're
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  of course. maybe five.
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  Obviously, obviously, in the photos and everything.
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  God. let's just get this back on track.
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  Yeah.
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  ~ so FIFA made
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  Ha ha ha.
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  the host cities change all of their stadiums to grass.
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  And now some of the stadiums are tearing out their grass and composting
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  it and putting back in the turf.
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  So there are 15 stadiums, 15 out of 30 stadiums in the NFL have grass turf.
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  One Canadian stadium has grass turf.
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  Like Toronto. Toronto's is, I looked it up,
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  it has 95% grass, 5% synthetic,
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  and that is because they share a stadium with soccer.
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  No, the Players Association in the NFL is saying,
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  Okay, so you you can put grass into these stadiums.
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  You told us you couldn't, but you can.
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  And so now they are on a big campaign and the their players association
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  put a statement and they have lots of ~ different players talking about
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  and they have the hashtag worth the cost and as their hashtag because they're saying
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  that the the you the savings on the cost of
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  Grass turfs gets passed on to players' bodies.
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  And they're the ones who pay the price.
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  They're the ones that lose the paychecks.
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  They're the ones that have the lifelong injuries because you cheaped
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  out and wouldn't put grass turf in.
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  you know what? It's getting some traction because the Kelsey brothers talked about
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  on their podcast, and Travis actually said he said in preseason he would count
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  how many games he'd have to play on turf instead of grass,
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  and to prepare himself for like potential.
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  Injuries. And so it's just interesting.
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  And then someone was like, You can't have grass in Canada.
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  I was Well, Toronto has grass.
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  And you what? Buffalo and Green Bay have grass.
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  And so I'm wondering if the Players Association makes a big push for grass,
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  if that's something that might be happening in Canada.
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  Because you what? There's new technology now.
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  It's not how it used to be. There's different they can grow grass a lot faster.
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  There's different ~ techniques to growing it,
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  better technology, more cost effective than it used to be.
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  So maybe this is a trend and some players won't be blown out their Achilles
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  or having their whole legs ripped up from t rash or separating their shoulders.
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  So hopefully we'll We'll see.
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  The
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  yeah, it's ~ it makes sense to s to some degree.
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  I assume most of the NFL stadiums are NFL only.
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  They're not NFL slash soccer, like BMO is here,
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  where it's both where it's soccer and football And ~ so if it's only football,
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  then you can do it. Soccer guys have to have it perfect.
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  their la their turf or their pitch,
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  as they like to say, has to look like a green,
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  a golf green, or else it's not good enough.
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  so that p is a problem when you're trying to play football on it one week
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  and then play soccer on it within a few days.
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  Toronto has managed to do it and they've been extremely lucky,
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  honestly, over the over the ten years or so that they've been at BMO it
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  was a major point of confrontation
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  w for the soccer types when the Argos were first moving in there,
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  that they would be ruining their pitch.
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  In fact the w the it's kinda ironic because the only games that I've been
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  to where the where the grass has looked bad has been after a soccer game,
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  not after a football game.
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  when we get to the shorter field,
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  that two yards extra that they have to have for the seventeen yard end zones,
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  that's what's turf right now in one end.
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  So that will be gone with the shorter end zones next year and the shorter field
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  if we still go to the shorter field.
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  So it will be all grass next year.
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  but sir and I and and Vancouver went to grass for the World Cup as far as of course,
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  and but I believe they've already started to tear it out to put turf back
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  in and DC chart. Yeah.
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  It's already torn out.
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  is interesting because the white caps are this is a the white caps want
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  to take over BC Place. And so if they take over management of BC Place,
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  I'm wondering if they're gonna push to put grass in.
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  will probably want them. MLS will probably want them too,
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  ~
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  right?
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  yeah, MLS
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  wants them to, but it's more about the local because I'm not sure every stadium
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  in the US in soccer is natural grass either.
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  That would be a question I'd like to see.
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  Are all franchises in the US ~ MLS franchises or are they all playing
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  on natural grass? Because it's not a requirement in the MLS.
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  It is in the European leagues,
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  but it's not here in North America.
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  Because they share so many stadiums,
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  they just knew they couldn't get away with it.
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  ~ I understand and support the the NFL PA's goal.
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  It'd be nice if all the all the stadiums were grass only,
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  but I can see the conflict on why it would be why it's easier to just
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  go with turf and not have to worry about the conflict.
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  Okay, well thank you for that.
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  I was not even aware of that. So thank thanks for filling me in on it.
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  And on the other side here with the NFL,
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  GT said to me, We gotta talk about the NFL Buy Canadian campaign.
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  So you have to tell me about that too.
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  Yeah, I've noticed this over the last few weeks watching the games on TSN,
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  how many commercials the NFL is running with your Canadian superstars,
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  you bought and yours this and your that,
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  Well.
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  ~ Canada this and Canada that.
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  It's like the campaign the CFL should have been running for this entire season.
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  for the CFL, for our Canadian players.
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  the marketing in the NFL
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  gets it. Now they have the money to do it,
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  so that helps. And maybe that was the problem.
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  They just did they had to go with a Canadian focused campaign for the CFL
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  or it's a hit or whatever they're calling this silly thing the other,
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  maybe I don't know. But they missed the boat is my point,
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  considering the NFL jumped right aboard and has managed to make this work
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  we talked about last week about being at the stampede,
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  they're just making the right decisions to drive the brand that
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  the CFL continues not to do. It's just another ~ why aren't we doing this stuff?
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  Yeah. They had those on last year near the end of the season.
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  Because I did notice them last year.
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  I think for playoffs they had them,
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  'cause I was like, and then I learned I was like,
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  look, there's someone from Alberta playing in the NFL.
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  But yeah, this year it feels a lot more pointed.
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  And they're on a lot more. Yeah.
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  What a what a swing and a miss for CFL again.
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  Yeah. Yes. Yeah.
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  NFL is a machine. They don't miss they don't miss an opportunity.
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  Absolutely.
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  All righty.
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  I think that the TSN gives
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  Well
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  I am Yeah.
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  I gotta tell ya, I get the feeling that TSN really doesn't give a damn about
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  CFL right now. I mean this was this another weekend where they
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  had the Winnipeg Ottawa game set to appear on one channel and
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  I had my recorder set up to record on that channel and they couldn't get it right.
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  the first quarter of what should have been the football game was top
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  Not even a a World Cup game, but a panel show about the World Cup after the game.
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  And you can't tell me if you wanted that on your number one channel,
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  great. Why didn't you a week ahead bump the football somewhere else?
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  Rather than leave a bunch of CFL fans pissed off two weeks in a row.
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  I have no time for TSN right now.
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  I think they don't seem to give a damn.
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  Sorry, that's my rant.
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  Well, I was about
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  Yeah, no, that's okay. I was about to have a meltdown when I went
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  to watch the recording of the Stamps Montreal game when I can't when I turned
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  on the recording, it was again a bunch of soccer stuff and I was like,
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  This isn't two weeks in a row.
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  I'm gonna just was like gonna just lose it.
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  Yeah.
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  And then they and then they switched it off and it was simply
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  a commercial or something, or the last of a of a show or something,
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  and I was like, ~ okay, fine
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  Breathe, breathe, breathe.
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  Some good news. This week the average attendance was just
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  shy of nineteen thousand. I've noticed that this was another week without
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  a game in Saskatchewan.
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  Or Winnipeg But I when I was looking back over it,
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  they've been climbing every week.
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  The averages that the w where Winnipeg and Saskatchewan aren't playing
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  at home has gone up and up and up every week where it's gone up about maybe another
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  thousand or so. But it was good and all round.
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  The only one that was really at all disappointing was no surprise Ottawa that
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  had just over 14,000. But Edmonton had over 20,000,
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  Hamilton had over 21,000.
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  And even Montreal was over nineteen thousand,
• 20:59
  so in a smaller stadium there.
• 21:01
  So that I thought it was a good week.
• 21:03
  Good to see
• 21:04
  Yeah, well that ~
• 21:05
  the Montreal game was in Calgary.
• 21:07
  And so ~ it what it it it did not look good.
• 21:08
  right, Calgar sorry, yeah, I've got here Calgary,
• 21:08
  And it was not nineteen thousand was it nineteen thousand?
• 21:10
  yeah, but so that's still
• 21:13
  And my the first thing I said as they went to the stadium was,
• 21:16
  it's another bad crowd in Calgary.
• 21:18
  It just to me it did not look good at all.
• 21:20
  so that that's that's that's mystifying in a city like that where there's really
• 21:26
  it's the only it's the only sporting event in the summer
• 21:30
  sure, there's the C E B L G I get it.
• 21:32
  But but they're right.
• 21:34
  That's only two thousand people.
• 21:35
  That's not gonna
• 21:36
  Exactly. It's not gonna impact.
• 21:38
  It shouldn't be impacting your it shouldn't be impacting the Stamp Peters during
• 21:42
  the summer. And yeah, it's to me that's still very disappointing for that
• 21:47
  in that in that city. So they've gotta do something something.
• 21:51
  Hamilton, I was very, very pleased with the crowd.
• 21:54
  As I said last week, I thought it would be,
• 21:56
  you know, fifteen at best.
• 21:57
  And it turned out to be very good and I can understand why we'll get into that.
• 22:02
  But basically what they did was I spoke to some Hamilton fans while I
• 22:06
  was there and if it was built into your season ticket package.
• 22:09
  So the season ticket holders primarily for Hamilton for the Tiger Cats showed
• 22:13
  up and then X number of Argo fans showed up and that brought the numbers
• 22:17
  up quite quite well. So so yeah,
• 22:19
  it was a it was a good crowd and it looked like it.
• 22:22
  by the time the game was over.
• 22:23
  So it was
• 22:24
  That was good. And Edmonton is a great sign that th even for a game with
• 22:29
  BC that they drew twenty plus and that's on the up.
• 22:33
  Definitely good news, yeah. And and you're right about Calgary,
• 22:33
  Yeah. ~
• 22:35
  'cause the other thing is that this is the game that the tickets would have been
• 22:39
  fifty eight percent off because of the big blowout win over Toronto.
• 22:43
  And still apparently didn't bring them in that much.
• 22:43
  Right.
• 22:46
  I
• 22:47
  So
• 22:47
  Comment during that game because I was just I was like,
• 22:49
  you know, we give the MLSE a lot of crap for not caring about the Argos,
• 22:54
  but I don't think we hammer down hard enough on what do they call this CSEC
• 22:59
  for not caring about the Stampeders.
• 23:02
  They do not care what happens to that team,
• 23:06
  they do not give them any money.
• 23:07
  And it's it's embarrassing I feel really bad for Stampeders and their fans because
• 23:13
  they get no help from their ownership group.
• 23:15
  Yeah. Well that maybe with reflecting
• 23:15
  Yeah, I agree. And that's been that's been something that's
• 23:18
  been talked about for quite a few years.
• 23:20
  So
• 23:21
  Yeah.
• 23:22
  Yeah, and if if the fans are aware of that and that may have something
• 23:26
  to do with the lower numbers. But anyway,
• 23:28
  don't want to dwell on that for too long here.
• 23:30
  Let's what else did we have to talk about here?
• 23:33
  Getting towards the end of our news bit.
• 23:35
  So signings and releases this week.
• 23:37
  the Argos released Hendricks from the D line last week and then re-signed
• 23:41
  him this week and also signed Sean Lemmon.
• 23:45
  I'll because of the name Sean Lemon,
• 23:47
  I'll give either of you a chance to say whether you think that's
• 23:49
  a worthwhile signing or not. Yeah.
• 23:51
  Why?
• 23:53
  It's just like this is like Adam Bighoe going to the stamps last year.
• 23:57
  Why?
• 23:58
  Yeah.
• 24:00
  I get the
• 24:00
  feeling it's like just trying to find somebody that can play.
• 24:04
  Exactly. That's what I think it is.
• 24:05
  the surprising one to me was that they cut Hendrix to begin with and then they
• 24:09
  re signed him this week. ~ as I said to you,
• 24:12
  old man, when we were talking earlier in the day,
• 24:14
  I didn't even know they re signed him.
• 24:15
  so was that a negotiating ploy to get him to lower his his like,
• 24:19
  why didn't they just renegotiate the contract then?
• 24:21
  Like why would you cut a guy? And how does like it's such a vicious business.
• 24:26
  Like how you gotta have skin as thick as an elephant to be a football player.
• 24:30
  Where, you know, they're just like
• 24:32
  We don't care about you this week.
• 24:33
  next week we want you back. We love you.
• 24:35
  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 24:35
  Come on back. Like it's like, ~ man,
• 24:37
  are you just ~ yeah, yeah, I feel for the guy.
• 24:40
  Now sacrifice your body on artificial turf for us.
• 24:40
  Yeah.
• 24:43
  Yeah, yeah. No, I I I
• 24:43
  Like ~ right
• 24:44
  no, look, we have real grass It's okay,
• 24:47
  come on back.
• 24:48
  No, they don't they're not in they're not a BMO anytime soon.
• 24:51
  yes
• 24:52
  they are. Next game is that people.
• 24:53
  ~ well next next game, but I mean but you know yeah
• 24:55
  yes. Yeah, finally. But let like I said though,
• 24:59
  that the it's just yeah. It it it doesn't give the appearance of
• 25:03
  a front office that's really on top of their game plan.
• 25:06
  Yeah.
• 25:07
  And and s and the Sean Lemon thing is can he be effective?
• 25:10
  Does it cost you anything? Low risk,
• 25:12
  high reward maybe, if he's got his motor back there's ten games left in the season.
• 25:18
  It wouldn't surprise me if he was in the top five sack leaders by the
• 25:22
  end of the year. He when his motor's running,
• 25:24
  he can get to the quarterback.
• 25:26
  Now he's forty years old.
• 25:28
  So whether he can still get his motor running often enough to make it work,
• 25:32
  maybe, maybe not. But again, depending on what it costs you,
• 25:37
  ~ at least you're getting somebody that knows the league,
• 25:40
  right? do you need another bad publicity guy?
• 25:43
  But he is a great teammate and a wonderful leader in the locker room.
• 25:49
  And maybe they need some of that.
• 25:51
  Maybe they just need some of that,
• 25:52
  Yeah.
• 25:53
  like Calgary needed Adam Big Hill last year for the same reason.
• 25:56
  So, MJ, your point may be just that,
• 25:59
  is that it is exactly it's Adam Big Hill where you just need a
• 26:02
  guy that's been around, knows everything in and out,
• 26:05
  and can help your guys learn coach and player at the same time type of guy,
• 26:10
  a glue guy. So
• 26:10
  Yeah. This
• 26:11
  is how you get around the coach's cap.
• 26:13
  Yeah,
• 26:13
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 26:13
  that too. That too.
• 26:16
  I guess the question is can can you afford to have a player on your roster who's
• 26:20
  probably, if he's used ideally,
• 26:23
  is just going to be a long yardage rushing ~ end.
• 26:26
  he won't be out there for for most plays,
• 26:28
  he'll be out there when it's second and eight or longer.
• 26:31
  I'm sure he's on
• 26:32
  like a a minimum or not much higher kind of contract as well.
• 26:36
  yeah. Yeah.
• 26:36
  They can't be paying him a ton of money at this stage of the game.
• 26:40
  And and and and also their o defensive line has been pretty bad.
• 26:45
  Their defense overall has been pretty bad.
• 26:47
  They need the help. They need any help they can get at this stage.
• 26:49
  Yeah.
• 26:51
  I will agree with that. he's not gonna play special teams.
• 26:54
  He's not you know, it's so it's putting a load on everybody else
• 26:57
  by having a specialist body in there.
• 26:59
  What may be imp influencing this is I noticed we'll talk about it
• 27:03
  in the injuries later, but Chatfield was did not participate at practice without
• 27:07
  Yeah. Yeah, he got dinged. Yeah.
• 27:08
  a lot of yeah, so
• 27:11
  Anyway, moving on from that, we also had another signing was Tyree Adams with
• 27:15
  the Lions after Nathan got hurt.
• 27:17
  And basically they said we have to have three quarterbacks on the roster,
• 27:21
  so we've signed tra Tyree and expect him to come in and play well if if we need him.
• 27:27
  He knows the system somewhat. So who knows?
• 27:30
  He was somebody that I wish had gotten more of a chance to play,
• 27:32
  so maybe this will help.
• 27:33
  Yeah
• 27:34
  Yeah, he always be has been an intriguing ~ prospect.
• 27:37
  So and unfortunately had those inju that injury that kinda took the
• 27:41
  it took his career off to the left field.
• 27:44
  he could be something good. in the meantime,
• 27:46
  ~ they signed two put two NFL guys onto their negotiation list,
• 27:50
  so maybe one of them shows up as well.
• 27:52
  And with any luck, you know.
• 27:53
  Nathan's not that not that injured and they get get him back in a few weeks,
• 27:57
  so
• 27:59
  other notable ones, the Stamps released Benny Sap the third after
• 28:03
  the game this week. May or may not have had something to do with the
• 28:06
  hit along the sidelines. And the Alouettes have now released Mario Alfred again.
• 28:10
  So I don't know who they're going to be looking at.
• 28:11
  And Talbort
• 28:13
  Is Deadman ready to come back for them for the ~ returner?
• 28:17
  I don't know, but Alfred's gone.
• 28:18
  They released
• 28:19
  both returners today 'cause t I think it was Talbert yeah,
• 28:21
  did they? I didn't
• 28:22
  Talbert got inj r released today as well.
• 28:23
  ~ okay.
• 28:24
  Yeah. I was like,
• 28:27
  well, after that game I'm not surprised.
• 28:30
  Yeah.
• 28:31
  Okay. And ~ then the other one that you were just mentioning as
• 28:35
  we were talking about the going into the ~ show tonight,
• 28:38
  MJ, Isaiah Adams from the NFL.
• 28:41
  You seem more up on this than I was,
• 28:43
  so why don't you tell us?
• 28:45
  You know, every time the elks do something good,
• 28:46
  like have Dosh hound races at halftime,
• 28:49
  then they sign a some if you don't know,
• 28:51
  Isaiah Adams came out today that he has been arrested for
• 28:55
  Not no, that was the other he weapon firearms.
• 28:56
  Rapid weapon. ~
• 28:57
  Firearms against
• 28:58
  his
• 28:58
  I was gonna say drug trafficking,
• 29:00
  but that was his accomplices. Those are that's separate.
• 29:02
  He got he has firearm charges for illegal guns that were smuggled in from the US.
• 29:07
  and then after that, they added him to their negotiation list after the charges.
• 29:12
  So good job,
• 29:14
  Opportunistic, but
• 29:15
  No, that's it's not you don't even what?
• 29:18
  Why Ed Hervey? Why? You don't need to do this.
• 29:21
  It's such bad p ~ Stick to Dosh Hound races.
• 29:24
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 29:25
  You're doing okay. You guys are winning.
• 29:27
  Like you don't need this.
• 29:29
  Yes.
• 29:30
  Probably thought they could do it and it wouldn't get noticed.
• 29:32
  It's just on the negotiation list.
• 29:32
  Yeah. No, the negotiation lists are public now.
• 29:35
  Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
• 29:36
  The
• 29:36
  Yeah, exactly.
• 29:39
  this full circle GT it's
• 29:41
  I was a little confused when when I first heard that because a Canadian
• 29:47
  on a negotiation list didn't seem right.
• 29:49
  But if I understand it, that if you're a Canadian player that goes and plays
• 29:53
  in the NFL for enough years if you're also drafted by a CFL team
• 29:58
  they only keep your rights for I think it's four or five years.
• 30:01
  And then it becomes open rights.
• 30:03
  So if you're a Canadian whose rights rights aren't owned by anyone in
• 30:07
  the CFL at this point, they you can also have them on your negotiation list.
• 30:12
  It's not simply Americans.
• 30:15
  isn't that where Tevin Campbell,
• 30:16
  wasn't that his situation even?
• 30:18
  In Saskatchewan I think that's the I think when they added him
• 30:19
  Probably was when they came back,
• 30:20
  yeah.
• 30:22
  to the negotiation list, that was exactly that scenario.
• 30:25
  it's strange to hear it, but there is some kind of clause that you can
• 30:28
  get away with it.
• 30:29
  Yeah. Exactly. And then one more little bit of semi news,
• 30:31
  Not the best use of it.
• 30:33
  maybe not news, I don't know. MJ seems like she was all hyped up to go
• 30:38
  on a rant about PI this week. So we're taking our turns.
• 30:41
  It's your week to rant.
• 30:43
  Okay, I have had it this year with PI.
• 30:46
  I've had it.
• 30:48
  I've watched all weekend. All it's all it's been happening all year
• 30:52
  and we have talked about it. But I am so sick of every time there's like
• 30:58
  a little tiniest little bit of hand fighting.
• 31:00
  Receives are standing up. I will ~ explain my hand actions
• 31:04
  for podcast listeners They are tossing,
• 31:06
  like mimicking, tossing flags.
• 31:08
  They're trying to like do their chest,
• 31:10
  like, replay, review, review, and then they're crying at refs.
• 31:13
  They're like people are walking around with their hands up in the air,
• 31:16
  like freaking.
• 31:17
  Out. I have had it with the crybaby nonsense with that,
• 31:21
  but you know what? it's because there are some very soft PI calls this year
• 31:27
  and they think they can get away with it,
• 31:29
  and kinda they do. I
• 31:31
  I'm sick of soft PI calls. I you know what the speaking,
• 31:34
  this is the NFL episode. Speaking of,
• 31:36
  the NFL lets them hand fight a lot more.
• 31:39
  And I wish the CFL would let them hand fight more because it's slowing down
• 31:43
  the game because they're like reviewing all these PI.
• 31:46
  There's people having tamper tantrums on the field.
• 31:49
  I have just had it. I am it's ruining my fun.
• 31:53
  Well we can't have that. We certainly cannot.
• 31:55
  No!
• 31:57
  feelings on it are I just want them to be consistent.
• 32:00
  I mean if you're not gonna allow hand fighting,
• 32:02
  if you're if it's gonna be a hundred percent hands off,
• 32:04
  that's fine. If you're going to allow it but be consistent because it's
• 32:07
  not new this year. It it is very dependent on the crew and that you get
• 32:12
  and the game and what kind of mood somebody's in and I don't know is ~
• 32:17
  the moon in the orbit of Aquarius or whatever.
• 32:20
  It's just it ca something that even within a single game,
• 32:25
  something that is a flag is thrown right away and it's upheld and it's yeah,
• 32:30
  it's obvious that was PI a quarter later the same thing can happen and it's no,
• 32:34
  we're fine. So
• 32:36
  You know what? Every time I see a player like doing this with this on this chest
• 32:40
  or they know what they do? They look like men's soccer players rolling
• 32:44
  on the ground holding their leg hoping for a call.
• 32:46
  That's what you look like and it's embarrass I'm just
• 32:46
  Yep, exactly. Well,
• 32:49
  and
• 32:50
  that whole thing about this now,
• 32:52
  they're doing that because if you mimic throwing the flag,
• 32:55
  you can could and should get a penalty for it.
• 32:57
  And and frankly, I think that they should expand that rule to anything that's
• 32:58
  They aren't though.
• 33:03
  an obvious signal that you disagree with a call that you're you're making basically
• 33:09
  you're calling the officiating into disrespect,
• 33:12
  you should be penalized for that.
• 33:14
  Just put it out there. If you know,
• 33:16
  let the coaches make the decisions on the sideline.
• 33:19
  this I
• 33:20
  the coaches would probably appreciate it anyways,
• 33:23
  'cause half the time they have to ignore the player and then or they have
• 33:26
  Yeah.
• 33:26
  to calm the player down or something like that because they didn't go to review.
• 33:31
  It it's like, yeah, they it's yeah,
• 33:33
  I agree. It's some of it is a little over the top.
• 33:36
  A little over the top.
• 33:38
  There is a there seems to be a bit of a prima donna aspect to being
• 33:43
  a receiver in professional football.
• 33:45
  So I don't know that you'll ever get them out of that stuff.
• 33:46
  Like that.
• 33:48
  But anyway, thank you for that,
• 33:50
  MG. I agree. I would love to see them start flagging the misconduct
• 33:54
  on people do doing the whining and complaining.
• 33:58
  But we'll move on.
• 34:01
  Before we get to talking about the games,
• 34:03
  our own little games here, our fantasy stuff this week.
• 34:07
  I think it was a good week for us both again,
• 34:09
  MJ. I was up against KD Kamish,
• 34:12
  Kamish KD, which way is it here?
• 34:14
  Kamish KD. Who was first place in the league.
• 34:18
  And I managed to pull off a win.
• 34:19
  And I felt good about that.
• 34:21
  part of the reason was they had taken Nathan Rourke,
• 34:24
  who got no points at all. So that hurt them.
• 34:27
  However, I don't feel quite so much like I lucked into this one because looking
• 34:32
  at the teams that they were putting together in the past and and
• 34:35
  ~ what their tendencies were, I was pretty sure that they were going
• 34:38
  to take Rankin as their captain again and expect a lot of points out of them.
• 34:42
  So I took Rankin as a defensive call,
• 34:44
  but I did not take him as my captain.
• 34:45
  I took
• 34:47
  Yeah, instead Alexander at quarterback is the captain.
• 34:50
  And so as it turned out, between those two things,
• 34:53
  even if Rourke had been in there,
• 34:54
  he would have had to score ~ well,
• 34:57
  forty nine point nine points for them to beat me,
• 34:59
  which without any doubling effect because he wasn't the captain.
• 35:02
  So I felt like this was this maybe me patting myself on the back,
• 35:06
  but I felt like this was a strategy win.
• 35:08
  I felt like I thought my way through this one and w knowing what BC could be doing
• 35:12
  next week it's against the the average.
• 35:16
  So any scores above the league average are wins,
• 35:18
  any scores below it are losses.
• 35:20
  How about you? You won your game this week,
• 35:23
  did you not?
• 35:24
  I did. My son was away this week,
• 35:27
  last week at my mom and dad's side.
• 35:29
  I was like, aha, this is my chance.
• 35:30
  Ha ha
• 35:31
  This is my chance. I'm not gonna pick Alexander.
• 35:34
  I I picked Ford as my quarterback.
• 35:38
  And then my thing was I was like,
• 35:39
  I'm gonna pick Ford because he's only eight thousand dollars and then
• 35:42
  I'm gonna load up on all the high-end guys and all my high-end gay guys were like
• 35:46
  garbage and I picked Phil Pot as my captain and that was stupid.
• 35:50
  And like finally I was like, finally I'm gonna not pick a quarterback as my captain,
• 35:54
  I'm gonna do it guys, and then pfft.
• 35:56
  So anyway, I did beat Rouge Daltz,
• 35:58
  ~ had a worse game than me, but I don't I yeah,
• 36:02
  I ended up with what, a hundred and three point two.
• 36:04
  But if I had made Ford my captain,
• 36:06
  I would have won the whole week this week.
• 36:08
  Yep.
• 36:09
  Yeah, it's a it's a learning experience and being able to win when
• 36:10
  Yeah.
• 36:13
  you don't have the the perfect game is important too.
• 36:16
  that shows character as they say.
• 36:19
  I will also say since I was patting myself on the back here,
• 36:22
  it was also the second time in three weeks that I had the high score in the league.
• 36:26
  Which confuses the hell out of me 'cause my the last three weeks my scores have been
• 36:31
  within about ten points of each other and I've had two high scores
• 36:35
  and thirteenth place.
• 36:36
  Don't even try and figure out fantasy.
• 36:37
  All right, so that takes us now into the games that actually happened.
• 36:42
  And as we talked about the first game,
• 36:45
  it had a bit of doozy bit of news.
• 36:47
  The second offensive play for BC,
• 36:49
  Rourke got sacked and shoulder injury,
• 36:52
  he was out. Basically, this the story of this game was that because Chase Brice came
• 36:59
  in and threw a bunch of interceptions,
• 37:01
  but also got sacked four times by the Edmonton D.
• 37:04
  They were quite good.
• 37:05
  And ~ BC held Rankin in check again.
• 37:09
  I think he had like nine yards on the ground and some receiving,
• 37:12
  but not not a whole lot. They made it close in the end.
• 37:18
  BC did, even with ~ Bryce in there,
• 37:21
  they managed to fight their way back into it,
• 37:23
  but as with many of the games this weekend,
• 37:27
  came up just short again. And ~ was Edmonton nineteen,
• 37:31
  BC seventeen.
• 37:32
  So not all that high scoring. How about you,
• 37:36
  MJ? You said you were there. What was it like in person?
• 37:38
  yes.
• 37:39
  Well it was so nice. There were so many people there this time.
• 37:42
  I think there was almost twenty thousand people.
• 37:44
  It's the it's the biggest crowd I have sat in f in like about five years there.
• 37:48
  twenty thousand and twenty,
• 37:48
  So that was amaz
• 37:49
  ~ there's an entire row of women behind me who had never been to a
• 37:53
  CFL game before and they had all had their cowbells,
• 37:55
  so we all had a good time. you know who was not happy?
• 37:58
  My mom is a huge Elks fan, my dad and my husband are big BC Lion fans,
• 38:02
  and none of them were having a good time.
• 38:04
  No one was having fun at that game.
• 38:04
  Yeah.
• 38:07
  My dad, again, missed even seeing Rourke play.
• 38:10
  my husband was like watching Rourke walk off the field.
• 38:14
  Like just
• 38:15
  Yeah, and then we were sitting by the scoreboard and we were keeping track
• 38:19
  of the rushing yards. And there was a lot of times on that scoreboard where there
• 38:24
  was a minus one to minus two rushing for the elks.
• 38:27
  So good job,
• 38:29
  Yeah it's
• 38:30
  BC. Rankin had like seven carries for nine yards.
• 38:34
  ~ it was a tough game and then Bryce threw like four interceptions
• 38:38
  and the Elks should have blown them out of the water,
• 38:40
  right? Like there is no way this should be close.
• 38:43
  They almost won! My dad and my husband were so excited that fourth quarter,
• 38:47
  like they're so just short, the elks,
• 38:49
  despite their best efforts, won.
• 38:51
  they they should not be happy with how they played.
• 38:53
  I mean a win is a win and a w is a win.
• 38:55
  But that
• 38:56
  That was not good. And then my little note,
• 39:00
  I feel like contacting the Elks because their in-game entertainment,
• 39:04
  they were playing music and had their drumline talk like playing over top
• 39:09
  of any of Andre Pru's calls or explanations.
• 39:12
  So I was trying to figure out what was happening or when there was challenges,
• 39:16
  but then I couldn't even hear what was happening because there was a drum line over
• 39:21
  of
• 39:21
  of
• 39:21
  all the calls. So that was actually if you were a new person to the CFL
• 39:25
  and it was your first game, you had no idea what was going on.
• 39:29
  But ~ I'd had fun watching the Dosh Hound races at halftime.
• 39:32
  And then there was a whole section of dogs and they kept showing the dogs
• 39:35
  on the screen, the big screen and we all had a fun time.
• 39:39
  I understand exactly what you mean about the PA.
• 39:41
  That's was the first of the touchdown Kelowna games here.
• 39:44
  And it is frustrating when you're trying to decipher just from what's there,
• 39:46
  Okay, this is not a temporary stadium.
• 39:48
  This is
• 39:50
  but hey. And yeah, it might not have been pretty for the elk,
• 39:53
  but I think the theme of this weekend is the old cliche.
• 39:57
  They don't ask how, they just ask how many.
• 39:59
  Because that was most games this weekend.
• 40:03
  How about you, GT, anything to say on this one?
• 40:04
  Yeah.
• 40:06
  Yeah, there's the Elks should just be like,
• 40:09
  Take the money and run. Do the old Steve Miller because this was just,
• 40:13
  you know, they were that that they should not have they should have won that game
• 40:17
  by a huge margin, given the circumstances of the game,
• 40:21
  and they didn't. And they looked pretty bad in a lot of ways.
• 40:25
  Their offense looked completely disjointed.
• 40:27
  BC did a great job. both defenses did a
• 40:30
  a pretty good job of keeping the you know the other team off the field
• 40:35
  and not being able to do what they wanted to do.
• 40:37
  Fajardo was picking himself up off the turf almost the entire game.
• 40:41
  He was mad almost the entire game as he got excuse me,
• 40:45
  as he got thrown to the turf time after time.
• 40:47
  he was voicing his displeasure about it on a regular basis.
• 40:51
  MJ back to what you talked about receivers.
• 40:53
  I think quarterbacks have to grow up a little bit too.
• 40:56
  you take the hit, get up and throw the ball again.
• 40:58
  You don't start throwing your hands in the air and whining about late
• 41:00
  hit every time somebody touches you.
• 41:02
  so it's it's a little bit of theatrics there.
• 41:05
  But but anyways, yeah, I just thought Edmonton looked,
• 41:09
  you know, did not look great. And ~ they won by two points against a
• 41:14
  guy who's threw four interceptions in his first game in the CFL.
• 41:19
  Really his first full games, two plays in,
• 41:22
  wasn't even prepared.
• 41:23
  didn't have reps throughout the week and wasn't ready to go and it
• 41:26
  was obvious and yet you only won by two points.
• 41:30
  And you're lucky to get that, to be quite honest.
• 41:33
  You're lucky to win that game.
• 41:34
  Edmonton I know that their offensive line has been in flux the last couple of weeks,
• 41:38
  but they've been letting a lot of guys through too.
• 41:41
  They I don't think that offensive line's been playing up to their pay grade,
• 41:45
  'cause they spent a lot of money on that offensive line.
• 41:48
  I think some not cracks are beginning to show,
• 41:51
  but Edmonton is not like I've said before,
• 41:54
  I don't believe they're the the best team in the league,
• 41:58
  even though their record says they are.
• 42:00
  I don't think they're even I've got them,
• 42:02
  you know, not I don't have them there anyways at number one this week.
• 42:06
  So that'll Yeah.
• 42:07
  They should have had forty points on BC.
• 42:09
  Yeah.
• 42:10
  Yeah.
• 42:11
  their O line situation doesn't get a lot better 'cause they do have
• 42:15
  ~ O'Donnell listed as doubtful for this weekend.
• 42:17
  I would mention two plays that really caught my eye on it.
• 42:21
  The first one was the not the first T D B C touchdown,
• 42:25
  which was Horvath just going in from the one and got me some points in fantasy,
• 42:29
  so I'll take that. But
• 42:30
  But leading up to that, there was a catch by Keon Hatcher,
• 42:33
  a deep one down the, I believe it was down the middle if you remember it.
• 42:34
  That was a beautiful passion.
• 42:36
  That was incredible. ~ wow, to be right there and see that.
• 42:36
  I was sitting right there! ~ I was the best!
• 42:40
  Yeah!
• 42:40
  What what a fantastic body control for the catch.
• 42:45
  And then the other one was the ~ the elk l opening TD.
• 42:50
  They tried running it in with ranking and of course it didn't go anywhere.
• 42:53
  And then so they went to the pass and it looked like the pressure was gonna kill
• 42:57
  it off, but
• 42:58
  Cody managed to somehow scramble around and ~ do some of the stuff he does
• 43:03
  and hit Luther for it.
• 43:04
  my like fun fact about this is that Dennis McKnight was standing on
• 43:08
  the field with his arm hands on his hips looking very angry anytime
• 43:12
  the special teams were on the field because there Williams kept running into
• 43:16
  his own players on the return.
• 43:18
  And he just he was just staying there with his hands on his hips,
• 43:21
  just like looking so angry, and I was like,
• 43:23
  Ha, suicides for coming for you.
• 43:24
  Yeah.
• 43:25
  Like
• 43:26
  did your man Blanchard miss a field goal this week,
• 43:28
  MJ? Yes, I thought he did. It was a relative chip shot too,
• 43:29
  He missed one.
• 43:33
  correct?
• 43:34
  I mean, if we're gonna compare who missed field goals weekend,
• 43:37
  it is not Blanchard who you need to be upset about.
• 43:40
  I know, but there was a few kickers,
• 43:41
  Yeah. He was one of them.
• 43:41
  but he was one of them. Yes, I agree.
• 43:43
  It was.
• 43:44
  Yeah, it was a tough weekend for kickers.
• 43:46
  Tough weekend for kickers. and then my other thing is like again,
• 43:50
  Cody outrushed Rankin Emmonton has to have another plan if the rush
• 43:55
  is being blocked.
• 43:56
  I've been saying it since last year.
• 43:58
  You need to have a spy on him if you can have a spy on him and shut him down,
• 44:02
  that whole fence just grinds to a halt.
• 44:05
  Saskatchewan's probably watching that tape,
• 44:05
  to
• 44:06
  right? Like
• 44:07
  I don't necessarily know that you need a sp or I don't agree that you need
• 44:10
  to spy on him. It's you do have to you've got to get him stopped in
• 44:14
  the first five to seven yards.
• 44:18
  Because he's got he's gotten better at being patient and at waiting for
• 44:23
  the holes to open up and getting through them.
• 44:25
  But teams like BC that just don't let him get any head of steam up
• 44:29
  they're stopping him in that first five or six yards,
• 44:31
  if he gets into the second level,
• 44:33
  he seems like he can make anybody miss.
• 44:35
  So that's to me, that's the key of it.
• 44:38
  And
• 44:39
  I feel like
• 44:39
  BC had him stopped in the backfield a lot.
• 44:41
  Most of the time.
• 44:42
  Yeah.
• 44:42
  Like they wasn't even five yards,
• 44:45
  it was in the back 'cause he was negative rushing yards for a lot of that game.
• 44:48
  And that goes back to that offensive line that I mentioned earlier where they were
• 44:52
  just allowing BC s like BC we talked about them earlier in the season,
• 44:55
  having no defensive line help at all.
• 44:57
  And now they're just they're they've the last two weeks against Edmonton they've
• 45:01
  just been a terror. So something's gone on or whether it's whether it's scheme
• 45:05
  or whether it's against that team or matchups or whatever,
• 45:08
  but they've turned into a pretty good pretty awesome little unit there.
• 45:14
  if you looked at what they did that worked really well was they weren't blitzing
• 45:18
  and they weren't even run blitzing.
• 45:19
  'Cause the thing with again with Rankin is if you put on a heavy
• 45:23
  run blitz and somehow they pop him through a hole,
• 45:24
  They're done.
• 45:26
  he's yeah, he's gone and you never get so they were playing for rush
• 45:31
  and having their linebackers keying on Rankin first,
• 45:34
  being able to fill those gaps I sure hope the riders can do that,
• 45:37
  but we'll see.
• 45:38
  I'm gonna go on to the next one.
• 45:39
  Montreal 38 at Calgary 32.
• 45:43
  And again, a game where it was just all over the place.
• 45:48
  Teams were playing well, teams were playing poorly at different times
• 45:51
  and different spots. Calgary fell behind by 22 points.
• 45:55
  And
• 45:56
  ended up losing by six, which seems like,
• 45:59
  a great effort, but they lost by six.
• 46:01
  They just, it was too much to overcome.
• 46:02
  And then at the end of the when they were
• 46:05
  Within a minute to go and they had the ball down deep in Montreal's end,
• 46:09
  a fumble from B Brooks coughed it up.
• 46:12
  Montreal got jumped on it and just was able to kneel out the clock,
• 46:16
  basically. So it was an entertaining game,
• 46:21
  but I wouldn't call it a great game by either team,
• 46:24
  frankly. They both made mistakes Theis is as a running back was fantastic.
• 46:29
  He carried nineteen times for 123 yards and a touchdown.
• 46:32
  And I think he had probably the best run I've seen all season from a running back,
• 46:37
  which was it was only like fourteen yards up the middle,
• 46:40
  but I think he bounced off every player on the Calgary defense at least once
• 46:46
  and several of them twice. It was just a hard nose,
• 46:48
  I'm not spin going down sort of run that that I absolutely loved.
• 46:52
  Well he absolutely he
• 46:53
  absolutely trucked Flormalade him.
• 46:57
  And that was like, My goodness,
• 46:58
  that's that's not easy to do. And wasn't even stood up.
• 47:03
  He was down low to make a tackle and Tice just trucked him.
• 47:07
  So that was the most impressive part of that run and he ran he ran hard
• 47:11
  he had a great day. And Calgary did not.
• 47:14
  Calgary did not.
• 47:15
  Well I thought that when they came out in the second half and went back
• 47:18
  to their running game, it turned the game around.
• 47:19
  Yes. Absolutely. Yeah,
• 47:21
  Yeah.
• 47:21
  But you tell us more about that GT.
• 47:22
  Mills had
• 47:24
  Yeah, no, Mills had a great game.
• 47:25
  ~ Calgary they looked like they came out flat.
• 47:28
  they should have been totally ready for this game and they looked like they were
• 47:31
  flat. VA last week I thought as I said,
• 47:34
  I thought he was in his head last week.
• 47:36
  This week I just thought he was off.
• 47:37
  He just didn't look like he was on on target.
• 47:40
  He was overthrowing guys, under throwing guys,
• 47:43
  wasn't
• 47:43
  quite where he needed to be in the first half in particular and
• 47:48
  and they weren't using mills and that much vaunted defensive line was
• 47:51
  not getting to to Davis Alexander at all.
• 47:55
  I thought Montreal's offensive line did a terrific job all game long.
• 47:59
  I thought they gave him lots of time to and I just kept saying,
• 48:02
  he's got too much time. He's got too much time.
• 48:04
  Look, I completion. You know so
• 48:05
  Yeah.
• 48:07
  They yeah, Montreal was full value because they came out and took it to them.
• 48:11
  But then in the second half, the reverse happened and it was like Montreal wasn't
• 48:15
  ready coming out of the second half.
• 48:17
  Mm-hmm.
• 48:17
  Maybe they thought they had the game in hand,
• 48:19
  but Calgary made the adjustments and they played very,
• 48:22
  very well in the second half. They scored they outscored him thirty-two
• 48:25
  to ten in the third quarter in mil most of the fourth quarter.
• 48:28
  It was, you know, a completely different game when it was tied up at thirty-two.
• 48:33
  But then again, they couldn't stop them when they needed to to get
• 48:37
  the ball back after tying the game up.
• 48:40
  Montreal goes down, scores a touchdown,
• 48:42
  goes up thirty-eight, thirty-two,
• 48:44
  but misses the extra point. That allows Calgary,
• 48:48
  you know, to to have a shot. And you know,
• 48:51
  you don't have to have a point to make a point if you get the point.
• 48:55
  And it's but Calgary had the opportunity to
• 48:55
  Hmm.
• 48:59
  And they marched the ball all the way down,
• 49:01
  and that was a fumble. That was nothing but.
• 49:03
  It was just a fumble. He might have been going for the first down.
• 49:06
  I thought he had the first down already.
• 49:08
  So I was like, get down, get down.
• 49:10
  You got twenty six seconds. Don't worry about getting an extra two yards.
• 49:13
  Just get down on the ground. And you're at the sixteen or whatever,
• 49:17
  anyways. but a football guy, his first reaction is always try get extra yards.
• 49:22
  So that's what Brooks did, and he fumbled the ball.
• 49:25
  It was a legitimate fumble. I wasn't,
• 49:27
  you know
• 49:28
  Then my recording cut off again this week.
• 49:30
  So I didn't but I assumed they lost so I wasn't worried about it
• 49:33
  they
• 49:33
  stopped that game with thirty-five seconds left or thirty-eight anyway.
• 49:33
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah, basically they did so Yeah.
• 49:36
  So you didn't really miss anything.
• 49:37
  Yeah. a couple
• 49:38
  but that's what ~ I'm sorry, that's what Montreal does though.
• 49:41
  They like fall asleep in the third.
• 49:43
  I've noticed this year, because I have to watch these games and b they fall asleep
• 49:47
  and then like about eight minutes left in the fourth,
• 49:49
  they're like, we should keep playing.
• 49:52
  that and you're right. That's a sign of a dominant team.
• 49:54
  That's how Winnipeg was for the last few years.
• 49:57
  Where they would just like, whatever,
• 49:58
  we're just we're gonna got this game under control and you can make
• 50:01
  all the noise you want in the third,
• 50:03
  but in the fourth we're running Brady in into your face and that's all there
• 50:06
  is to it, and you're not gonna come back.
• 50:07
  We're gonna chew up the clock.
• 50:09
  Montreal does it slightly differently,
• 50:10
  but I agree with you, MJ. That's it's similar that way.
• 50:13
  I thought there was a couple of things that I just wanted to talk about.
• 50:16
  Last week we talked about
• 50:18
  ~ a player coming to, you know,
• 50:19
  the where we disagreed on who takes a bad penalty and when you do
• 50:23
  and when you don't. And last week I stood up in defense of Demory taking
• 50:27
  a penalty when VA got hit. And this week he just took a dumb penalty that hurt
• 50:33
  his team. And it was like he pancaked the defensive lineman well after the play.
• 50:38
  And it was and it took them out of out of rhythm and out of touchdown
• 50:42
  opportunity and they had to settle for a field goal.
• 50:45
  So it's you know, it that was a really bad play.
• 50:50
  The call on the sideline that was,
• 50:53
  you know, made Dickinson lose it and then lose it again after the game when
• 50:57
  he was calling out the ref. I thought it was a kind of a weak call.
• 51:00
  I thought there was a couple of weak calls this week overall.
• 51:04
  but you know, it's one of those where that again,
• 51:07
  he got trucked. I mean, he got
• 51:09
  crushed at when Sap came across and hit him.
• 51:11
  That was loud. That was a pop.
• 51:13
  You heard that all the way across the screen.
• 51:15
  was it ~ in the head? I didn't even think it was in the head.
• 51:18
  I thought it was on the shoulder.
• 51:20
  Was he already going out of bounds?
• 51:21
  Yeah, he was, but he was still in the field of play.
• 51:24
  So it wasn't like he was on the sidelines.
• 51:27
  if you're still going vertical up the field,
• 51:30
  as far as I'm concerned, you should you should be allowed to get hit.
• 51:33
  So I thought it was,
• 51:34
  fairly weak and I didn't and then it was,
• 51:36
  you know, they didn't call it,
• 51:38
  they called it a shoulder to the he to the head.
• 51:40
  That's they didn't even call it a a roughing or unnecessary roughness.
• 51:44
  The penalty was literally announced as a shoulder to the head.
• 51:48
  And I'm like, that's not a penalty.
• 51:50
  That's not that you can't call if they had a called it unnecessary roughness,
• 51:53
  you go, okay, but a shoulder to the head isn't a real penalty.
• 51:57
  So call it what it is. Like call it by the proper terminology at least,
• 51:58
  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 52:01
  and then maybe Dickinson
• 52:02
  wouldn't be losing his mind. So ~
• 52:05
  That that may be
• 52:06
  I saw someone on social media talking about that this week and actually quoted
• 52:10
  the rule And it doesn't say that a shoulder to the head is a penalty,
• 52:15
  it's but it says a blow to the head and doesn't specify what body part it has to be.
• 52:19
  That's right.
• 52:20
  whether it should have been called or not,
• 52:22
  but it did fit within what the rule book says.
• 52:24
  Absolutely. And I agree with you but if you're calling it that,
• 52:27
  call it unnecessary roughness,
• 52:29
  Yeah.
• 52:30
  'cause that's the name of the penalty.
• 52:31
  what is this penalty? You just make this up as you go?
• 52:35
  What is a shoulder to the head?
• 52:35
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 52:36
  There's no such thing. I think that was Dickerson's point,
• 52:39
  right? they didn't deserve to win this game.
• 52:41
  They lost it.
• 52:43
  And they could have won it, but they didn't deserve to win because they started
• 52:46
  off as badly as they did. it looked like they were gonna not score a single point
• 52:50
  in the first half. And you can't win games if you don't score a single point
• 52:53
  in the first half. So that's my view of the game.
• 52:56
  Alright, let me put my cowboy hat on.
• 52:58
  Alright.
• 52:59
  Okay.
• 53:00
  Now I'm gonna speak I don't think this game was officiated fairly against
• 53:06
  the Stampeders. We talked about that.
• 53:07
  A VA got hit in the head again.
• 53:10
  And
• 53:11
  I don't understand why he is a quarterback that is allowed to be hit
• 53:16
  in the head when it seems like other quarterbacks getting hit is a bigger deal.
• 53:23
  And it upsets me that it seems like there's preferential treatment towards some
• 53:23
  Mm-hmm.
• 53:29
  people and not others. And I'm not sure why he has been deemed
• 53:32
  to not have preferential status as a quarterback.
• 53:34
  He is a starting quarterback.
• 53:35
  He was running for his life most of that game.
• 53:37
  I felt like he was running. It was really hot there and he was running for his life.
• 53:38
  Yes, we want
• 53:40
  I felt so bad for him. And my note is if if Calgary had played that entire game,
• 53:46
  they would have won. The anyway,
• 53:47
  Yeah.
• 53:48
  okay. Cowboy hat off. that
• 53:50
  They are like a Montreal had terrible special team.
• 53:53
  Marrow, Alfred, and Talbert. I there was one point where they both were looking
• 53:57
  at each other and pointing at who was trying to take a kick like what
• 54:00
  a mess on special teams for them.
• 54:02
  And they are dangerous with Cole Speaker back.
• 54:06
  Yes He looked good.
• 54:06
  He had a monster
• 54:08
  first half there. ~ man, I was like,
• 54:10
  this great. Just great. And then this game had more rushing yards
• 54:12
  Yeah.
• 54:15
  in the first quarter than the the game the previous night had the entire game.
• 54:19
  And ~ Jalen technically won the Phil Pot Bowl,
• 54:20
  Total, yes.
• 54:23
  but lost the game.
• 54:25
  Yes. Yes.
• 54:26
  But their dad was
• 54:27
  there and the bunch of their family there and they were showing them
• 54:29
  and that was really nice. And to the man who told me that I was speaking
• 54:34
  in a sarcastic tone about the Phil Pot Bowl,
• 54:37
  please be advised that this is my regular tone of voice.
• 54:40
  There we go. Yes, well and as far as special teams go,
• 54:44
  I mean Alfred ripped off a sixty yard punt return,
• 54:47
  but it was all sideways. he started on the left side and and took
• 54:50
  it right across the entire field before going out for one yard gain,
• 54:54
  which may be why he was released today.
• 54:55
  I don't know. it felt to me like they were just both teams were
• 55:00
  don't know, just seemed like they there was something in the water.
• 55:04
  that Brooks fumble, I don't put that necessarily on him.
• 55:07
  He was trying to get some extra yards,
• 55:09
  but that was a a beautiful play from the defender coming up behind him.
• 55:12
  Mm-hmm.
• 55:13
  It wasn't sloppy ball control or anything.
• 55:16
  It wasn't it was just a good play on it.
• 55:19
  But you got sort of the flip side there was a position where Montreal
• 55:26
  was up
• 55:26
  by six points and this was down within five minutes to go and I forget they were
• 55:31
  about their own twenty or something,
• 55:32
  third and one to go. And instead of running crumb in and running their normal short
• 55:37
  yardage offense, they put these behind there to try and get it and
• 55:41
  he gets stacked up and Calgary takes over the ball in the twenty
• 55:44
  and scores the tying touchdown.
• 55:46
  You know, why do you do that at that time?
• 55:46
  That was an unbelievable play.
• 55:47
  Yeah.
• 55:49
  Yeah.
• 55:49
  He might have s
• 55:50
  like ran 30 yards though. This is the this is the Anthony Calvillo play call
• 55:54
  experience. It's going to be brilliant or you're gonna get stuffed.
• 55:58
  Yeah, but there's
• 55:59
  a time for that when you need that yard,
• 56:02
  just
• 56:03
  I know. I appreciate ~ I appreciate aggressive play calling.
• 56:08
  I mean there was like that turnover on downs like I appreciate when like you're
• 56:12
  going for it, you're trying to do things and you're not kicking field goals from
• 56:15
  the three yard line. Yeah.
• 56:17
  that too. I'll give you that. But there's a time when to try
• 56:21
  I guess they were just thinking that Calgary wouldn't be able to s I don't know.
• 56:22
  an an unconventional play. Yeah.
• 56:25
  I said the same thing about Condell in their game ~ with Winnipeg there,
• 56:29
  that there are times when both him and whether it comes from Calveo
• 56:34
  or it's Maas that the makes the decision on these things,
• 56:37
  it feel in something like that feels more like Moss to me.
• 56:39
  It's almost like they overthink themselves.
• 56:42
  We know what will work.
• 56:44
  But so does the defense. So we're gonna do something different.
• 56:47
  And and quite often it doesn't work at all.
• 56:50
  To me, that was just a a straight up coaching error.
• 56:53
  And if they lost that game, it should have been put on whatever coach made that
• 56:56
  choice. But it was also a bad game for penalties.
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  They both had not took nine penalties ~ and almost identical yardage.
• 57:04
  ~ Calgary took 106 and no,
• 57:08
  sorry, Calgary had 110, Montreal had 106 yards.
• 57:12
  And Montreal did take forty-five yards in penalties on one play late
• 57:15
  in the game when Calgary was trying to score,
• 57:17
  because they took a 30-yard PI and then a roughing the passer on top of it.
• 57:21
  And that, you know, basically set Calgary up for another one of their touchdowns
• 57:26
  in that comeback. full credit to Calgary for the second half comeback.
• 57:30
  But just as a lot of the Montreal
• 57:33
  scoring in the first half came from Calgary mistakes.
• 57:35
  A lot of the Calgary score scoring to me came from Montreal mistakes.
• 57:39
  So it's just a weird game like that.
• 57:42
  And then I I think the last thing that I had on it was that there was
• 57:45
  at one point it looked to me the way Alexander was moving around out there,
• 57:50
  it looked like he was being cautious with his hamstring.
• 57:53
  So it was hard to tell. But then all of a sudden there was one of
• 57:56
  the points where the Calgary pressure came came hard and he pulled
• 58:01
  off basically a Tre Ford escape act.
• 58:03
  That just an incredible scrambling and then completed to Tyson downfield
• 58:04
  Mm-hmm.
• 58:08
  for whatever it was, thirty, forty yards.
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  So
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  Yeah, they're they seem to be able to play when they need to.
• 58:15
  VA in his in his presser after I was wearing a Calgary Wild jersey.
• 58:19
  he's a big supporter of women's sports,
• 58:20
  Good. Yeah. Gotta
• 58:21
  so that in in the city, so that's awesome.
• 58:23
  Yeah. ~
• 58:24
  like that support.
• 58:24
  yeah, and he went to ~ he went to seventeen touchdowns without an interception.
• 58:30
  ~ so he was tied for with Ricky Ray for the record now with seventeen touchdowns
• 58:31
  Yes, he's tied for a record.
• 58:31
  Yes.
• 58:36
  without an interception. So and Davis Alexander went over ~ Darien Durant
• 58:40
  Yes.
• 58:42
  for most completed passes without an interception.
• 58:46
  That's two hundred and thirty ish type of thing.
• 58:46
  Yeah. I think it was three twenty three actually,
• 58:48
  So okay.
• 58:50
  but it's
• 58:51
  a high number, yeah.
• 58:51
  Yeah. It's a high
• 58:52
  number. So that was also, you know.
• 58:55
  Yeah. And
• 58:57
  me about this because she was very excited.
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  I was like, where are you to talk about your records now?
• 58:59
  Yeah.
• 59:01
  Yeah.
• 59:01
  She was so excited about Alexander beating that.
• 59:04
  Yes. Yeah, so yeah, record setting night and entertaining,
• 59:08
  but just slightly weird. As was the whole weekend.
• 59:12
  Including the ~ the next game,
• 59:15
  which was Toronto twenty three at Hamilton twenty four.
• 59:19
  And this was Milanovich deciding he was going to give Tre Ford a a
• 59:25
  try and actually seemed to call a reasonably good game for Trey.
• 59:28
  I think my favorite point in this
• 59:31
  whole game was before the game started when they when TSN first came
• 59:35
  on with the broadcast, one of the first shots they had was Keandre Smith there
• 59:39
  whispering away in Trey's ear.
• 59:41
  You know, just remember I'm here.
• 59:43
  I'll be here if you need a an outlet.
• 59:45
  Just keep in mind I'm here. So I like that.
• 59:47
  And and I thought Trey looked pretty good.
• 59:51
  And it was a well played game.
• 59:52
  in the end this one was one where Hamilton
• 59:55
  I guess by all rights probably shouldn't have won this because Toronto
• 59:59
  set themselves up with a walk off field goal from I think basically about
• 1:00:03
  the twenty, so it would have been a less than thirty yard field goal.
• 1:00:05
  And Herr Lahu just missed it badly.
• 1:00:09
  And this is this is where the the new rules came into effect.
• 1:00:14
  Missed it badly, the kick went out the back of the end zone,
• 1:00:17
  no point, Hamilton wins. How's the Hamilton fans like in this one,
• 1:00:21
  MJ?
• 1:00:22
  you know, you mix some blood, sweat,
• 1:00:23
  and tears of joy, and that's why I call a rally cry.
• 1:00:26
  ~ this game
• 1:00:28
  ~ I think there was a lot more people there because Trey Ford got announced
• 1:00:32
  as the starter instead of Jake Dolagala.
• 1:00:35
  so the Ty Cats could not practice last week because of the air quality.
• 1:00:39
  So Trey had not had first-team reps on the field with any of those receivers.
• 1:00:45
  And went out and pulled a rabbit out of his hat.
• 1:00:48
  Like just this was Trey Ford,
• 1:00:52
  like at his best.
• 1:00:54
  he's lucky he he's got yeah, dazzling.
• 1:00:54
  Waiting for the D word.
• 1:00:59
  He is lucky that Kenny can climb ladders.
• 1:01:01
  That one pass I thought he was over the line of scrimmage just at
• 1:01:01
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:01:05
  and Kenny climbed up and got that for that touchdown and they were kind of off
• 1:01:09
  the Toronto played a bad game,
• 1:01:11
  right? There's no reason that Trey should be outgunning Chad Kelly.
• 1:01:16
  No reason. But he did. And I have like a whole page full of notes.
• 1:01:21
  But there was some nasty there was some nasty face masks in this game.
• 1:01:25
  And one was on Trey and it was bad.
• 1:01:28
  And there was another one where where's my note?
• 1:01:31
  But I think there was like
• 1:01:33
  a PI and a roughing the passer and they got like was it this game that they
• 1:01:36
  got fifty nine yards or was that ~ that was Calgary.
• 1:01:38
  That was Calgary.
• 1:01:41
  ~ yeah. But
• 1:01:43
  Yeah, Scott apparently was taking some advice from some other people about
• 1:01:48
  how to play call for an RPO offense.
• 1:01:51
  So I'm glad he kind of swallowed his pride a bit and decided to play call
• 1:01:55
  for Trey because look what happened.
• 1:01:57
  That like what that was a home game from the Argos in Hamilton that where Hamilton
• 1:02:03
  was in dire straits, right?
• 1:02:06
  Like that was gonna be depressing,
• 1:02:08
  so depressing.
• 1:02:09
  so thank you, Scott, for like I was wrong.
• 1:02:12
  You can play call RPO. And so thank you.
• 1:02:15
  Because look what happened. What like and that was without practice again.
• 1:02:19
  And they did it.
• 1:02:20
  I was waiting to see Heralahu's name on your r releases today.
• 1:02:24
  He missed a two he missed a he and he's not been and cause they kept showing
• 1:02:25
  Yeah.
• 1:02:30
  the hold on TV. They're like, let's zoom in on the hold as if it's
• 1:02:34
  the center's fault or the the But the
• 1:02:35
  Yeah. it was a new holder, so that's why they were
• 1:02:38
  Hold is perfect. I saw it very
• 1:02:39
  the holds were great. Yeah, and he missed the
• 1:02:41
  up close. Thank you, TSN. Like,
• 1:02:43
  let's let's make sure that it was actually the kicker's fault,
• 1:02:46
  and it was. yeah.
• 1:02:48
  Yes. And he missed a convert or else it would have been tied at that point anyway.
• 1:02:51
  Yeah. And then so I was watching this game,
• 1:02:54
  and I and for a second I thought they tied it,
• 1:02:56
  and I'm looking at it, and I'm like,
• 1:02:58
  my god, this is going to overtime.
• 1:03:01
  And then I was like, wait.
• 1:03:03
  No, new rules. We won! I'm like,
• 1:03:06
  we won. Like,
• 1:03:10
  Yeah.
• 1:03:10
  that's the only time I like new rules.
• 1:03:12
  Was this one specific game where it helped me.
• 1:03:16
  also Dean Faithful in Paris on the weekend hit a fifty-six yard field goal
• 1:03:21
  for his football team and told the reporter he can hit from sixty-five,
• 1:03:24
  so maybe the Argos will be on the phone with him.
• 1:03:28
  Maybe. He certainly must have been doing a lot of isometrics on that
• 1:03:32
  leg from his thirty five yard days in the C F L Yes.
• 1:03:34
  I saw the field goal he kicked.
• 1:03:35
  It looked good. It looked good.
• 1:03:38
  they have their goal posts at the front of the end zones as well over there.
• 1:03:43
  let me stop you here with when we're talking about Hamilton.
• 1:03:45
  I'm gonna first of all tell you a little story about way back in the day from when
• 1:03:49
  I was coaching. at one point I was coaching ~ junior bantam team,
• 1:03:54
  which is twelve and thirteen year olds.
• 1:03:56
  we're playing twelve man football.
• 1:03:58
  You had to have eighteen people to qualify as a team.
• 1:04:01
  And we had sixteen players that really,
• 1:04:05
  really wanted to play, so they talked two of their friends into coming
• 1:04:08
  out and their friends said
• 1:04:10
  We'll come out and practice and be part of the team as long as we don't have
• 1:04:13
  to play in games. So so we basically were playing with sixteen players.
• 1:04:18
  We had five kids that were at twelve and thirteen that were between
• 1:04:22
  a hundred and ninety and two hundred pounds.
• 1:04:25
  So those were our five offensive linemen and they rotated our defensive tackle spots
• 1:04:31
  through the the game and went two ways with it like that.
• 1:04:34
  And that was it.
• 1:04:35
  And then we had a fullback that was about 160 and I had him to play
• 1:04:39
  the line if anybody got hurt, so that was good.
• 1:04:41
  So we get up in game and one of our linemen gets hurt and can't go back in,
• 1:04:42
  Well.
• 1:04:45
  so in goes my fullback. And then he gets hurt.
• 1:04:49
  And literally I've got nobody else that's ever played line for anything,
• 1:04:53
  and I'm having to deal with this as a coach on the sideline.
• 1:04:55
  I'm going, I who who goes in? And we got this receiver who's
• 1:04:59
  a hundred pounds soaking wet. And Dave says to me,
• 1:05:01
  Coach, I'll go do it. Okay, go play guard for us,
• 1:05:04
  Dave. What are we gonna do?
• 1:05:06
  And he went out there for the last quarter and basically got in people's ways
• 1:05:09
  and we still won the game. Now I mention this because the Hamilton Tiger Cats lost
• 1:05:13
  Yes.
• 1:05:16
  both offensive tackles in this game and ended up playing Max Meng,
• 1:05:21
  their global global tight end at 265 pounds at guard.
• 1:05:22
  What?
• 1:05:27
  And he got he gave up one bad sack.
• 1:05:30
  But basically he got out there and got in people's ways and it was enough
• 1:05:34
  to kind of hold them in the game.
• 1:05:36
  They
• 1:05:36
  had him against Holly. And I was like,
• 1:05:39
  Yeah.
• 1:05:39
  are you trying to have him murdered?
• 1:05:41
  And then they eventually switched it up so he wasn't against Holly anymore.
• 1:05:44
  But I was like, you guys, you're lucky Trey's back there,
• 1:05:47
  because if Bo was back there, he would have died.
• 1:05:50
  Yes. Well,
• 1:05:51
  and it wasn't they kept Mang in the same spot,
• 1:05:53
  so it was Toronto who decided they weren't gonna keep putting Holly
• 1:05:55
  ~ they were like and then
• 1:05:56
  on which surprised me 'cause
• 1:05:58
  the one field goal that Legio missed,
• 1:06:00
  they were like, ~ they were trying to ~ pull guys they were physically pulling guys
• 1:06:05
  all across the line, trying to figure out who's lining up where and then
• 1:06:08
  Yeah.
• 1:06:08
  I think it just got in Legio's head and he missed.
• 1:06:11
  but yeah, ~ boy. I was like, Whoa,
• 1:06:13
  there's Mang. he's in a different number.
• 1:06:14
  he's on the line
• 1:06:16
  Yeah. It was
• 1:06:17
  a game of adversity for that offensive line.
• 1:06:19
  Well, you know,
• 1:06:20
  the the cards were really stacked against them and they pulled it off.
• 1:06:24
  Tycat Magic in Hamilton.
• 1:06:24
  and ho Hopefully Barrow's
• 1:06:26
  not serious and we'll be back 'cause it was it was hard to tell.
• 1:06:30
  He was walking around but that but Reed,
• 1:06:32
  who's an excellent left tackle,
• 1:06:34
  they took off in a splint. So he'll be gone for a bit.
• 1:06:35
  Yeah.
• 1:06:36
  I hope they've got some others on speed dial.
• 1:06:39
  Good thing Trey can run a hundred yards a game and can get flushed out and make it ~
• 1:06:44
  Yeah.
• 1:06:45
  Jump in here, GT. You were at the game.
• 1:06:45
  But You were there! You were there!
• 1:06:46
  Are you done? ~
• 1:06:49
  You
• 1:06:49
  saw this in person! Magic in person!
• 1:06:51
  All right, I think television versus reality is a whole different game because that
• 1:06:56
  wasn't magic. That was just a horrible game by Toronto.
• 1:07:01
  That's what that was. They scored on their opening drive and then they didn't score
• 1:07:06
  again. It was outrageous how bad Toronto was.
• 1:07:11
  So yes.
• 1:07:12
  Trey did a one did a pretty good job.
• 1:07:14
  And yes, he escaped. And yes, he ran a few times.
• 1:07:17
  And yes, he threw some passes.
• 1:07:18
  But it was about Toronto. They did they looked really bad from from
• 1:07:24
  the opening drive mid until the last drive when they finally
• 1:07:28
  had an opportunity because Leggio missed a field goal and also got no point.
• 1:07:32
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:07:32
  So let's not put it
• 1:07:33
  all on Halaharhu or whatever on Liam it was it gave the Argos
• 1:07:38
  the opportunity because ~ Leggio did the exact same thing.
• 1:07:43
  What he also kicked it right through the end zone and his was not as bad though.
• 1:07:48
  I will say this. The wind was also a big factor because it was blowing quite heavily
• 1:07:53
  in one direction or the other,
• 1:07:54
  and the Argos had the wind in the fourth quarter.
• 1:07:57
  I don't know how he missed the point after because it was just like he missed.
• 1:08:01
  How'd he miss? And then ~ he missed again on on to finish the game and
• 1:08:07
  it was from the exact same spot and he kicked it the exact same direction
• 1:08:10
  and it went the exact same way,
• 1:08:12
  only he kicked it harder. So it was still in the air when it left the end zone.
• 1:08:17
  I would have at least if you're gonna
• 1:08:19
  try to, you know, do last year's game handle,
• 1:08:22
  which is like kick it through the end zone to tie it with a single point,
• 1:08:25
  then at least you gotta put it up in the air now so that it falls into
• 1:08:29
  the shorter into the end zone so it's playable.
• 1:08:32
  You can't so I think that was part of the part of a miscalculation,
• 1:08:36
  but he did miss two in a row. Absolutely from the exact same spot.
• 1:08:40
  yeah, Hamilton didn't look great.
• 1:08:42
  Toronto looked worse.
• 1:08:43
  it was Toronto's home game in Hamilton against Hamilton.
• 1:08:47
  There was nothing from the Argos to suggest this was a home game.
• 1:08:52
  You're 40 minutes down the road.
• 1:08:54
  There was no Toronto cheerleaders.
• 1:08:57
  There was no Toronto mascot. There was no it was all of Hamilton's
• 1:09:02
  in stadium announcers. There was none of Toronto's announcers that it
• 1:09:07
  was a Hamilton home game.
• 1:09:09
  There was no blue. There was nothing to indicate that this was a Toronto home game.
• 1:09:14
  You were forty minutes down the road.
• 1:09:16
  You couldn't bring Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:09:17
  Even less 'cause they were in all their stuff's in Guelph.
• 1:09:20
  So you couldn't even, you know,
• 1:09:22
  that was that was really bad on the Argos,
• 1:09:25
  in my in my opinion. another miss by ML S E.
• 1:09:29
  When you could it wouldn't have cost you a ton of money to be able to just
• 1:09:32
  at least show your fans that made the trip that you still cared enough
• 1:09:36
  to try to make it a home game.
• 1:09:38
  they didn't. So the fans showed up.
• 1:09:41
  There was a lot of Argos fans there,
• 1:09:42
  so it was a good crowd. It was like a a Labor Day game in that the
• 1:09:46
  two factions were going at each other between the two chants back and forth.
• 1:09:51
  So it was it was good. It was fun in the stands.
• 1:09:53
  My tickets ended up once I got them last Wednesday
• 1:09:57
  three days before the event, ~ they ended up almost identically where
• 1:09:57
  ~ cheapers.
• 1:09:57
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:10:01
  I would be sitting normally at BMO.
• 1:10:03
  So that was terrific. I spoke to some TyCat fans that were sitting around
• 1:10:07
  me and they said that their their this game came as part of their package
• 1:10:12
  and indicated that they didn't have a choice whether they wanted or not.
• 1:10:15
  It simply was added into their package,
• 1:10:16
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:10:17
  which is a bit of a scam on their behalf.
• 1:10:19
  They should have had the opportunity to say no,
• 1:10:21
  I don't want to. but
• 1:10:22
  at the same time. but and perhaps that's why they couldn't rearrange
• 1:10:26
  the tickets until the last minute.
• 1:10:27
  But somehow again, I don't to me that's still not well done.
• 1:10:31
  but overall it was good fun. ~ had terrific food.
• 1:10:34
  Terrific food. Found a great spot to eat at Hamilton Stadium.
• 1:10:38
  So that was great. and ~ yeah,
• 1:10:40
  it was a gr it was not a great game,
• 1:10:42
  but it was still a semi exciting game is how I would put it.
• 1:10:45
  And because of the ending of it,
• 1:10:47
  It was great that we had, you know,
• 1:10:49
  two you know, two times that the new rules showed up.
• 1:10:52
  So interesting.
• 1:10:54
  from what I've heard, don't take this as gospel,
• 1:10:57
  but from what I've heard, Saskatchewan and Winnipeg was the same thing.
• 1:11:00
  The Toronto home game was added as part of the season ticket pass and
• 1:11:04
  you paid for it.
• 1:11:05
  I said my favorite part of the night was Keandre whispering in Trey's ear.
• 1:11:08
  My my second favorite part of the night was Glenn Souter saying,
• 1:11:12
  Well, Kelly's known for trying to fit it into tight windows and I thought,
• 1:11:16
  you know, that's the nicest way I've he ever heard someone say,
• 1:11:19
  he really can't make very good reads
• 1:11:22
  other teams have got pressure on him,
• 1:11:24
  but this was the first time he looked rattled from either the pressure
• 1:11:27
  Yeah. Yeah, he wa he was not Yeah,
• 1:11:27
  or the coverage. He didn't look like he knew what he was doing.
• 1:11:30
  he was not on and he was not and he was getting run and he was running
• 1:11:34
  for his life most of the night and he was not he was not happy in a
• 1:11:38
  a couple of cases again, you know,
• 1:11:40
  calling for the refs to give him just give him the call and so on and so forth.
• 1:11:43
  He's been doing that all year.
• 1:11:43
  Exactly. And as you as we talked about,
• 1:11:46
  it's becoming a little tiresome from a lot of these quarterbacks.
• 1:11:49
  Yeah, no, it w he was definitely under pressure all night.
• 1:11:52
  The Hamilton's defense played,
• 1:11:53
  I thought played really, really well.
• 1:11:55
  Castatonis didn't start the game and I was a little worried,
• 1:11:58
  but then he showed up on and off.
• 1:11:59
  So he must be ha he must be a bit nicked because he wasn't in he was in
• 1:12:04
  and out of the game at some point,
• 1:12:05
  or it's a ratio thing, but I can't believe he would be affected by the ratio.
• 1:12:09
  it was it was a good game. It was fun to be at.
• 1:12:11
  It was nice to be back. It was nice to be back watching football again because
• 1:12:15
  we haven't had the opportunity live in this marketplace until this game.
• 1:12:19
  So well that's not true. I could have been in Hamilton earlier,
• 1:12:22
  I guess. That's true. Or Hamilton.
• 1:12:23
  You could have been.
• 1:12:23
  Yeah, well but
• 1:12:24
  ~
• 1:12:24
  g but
• 1:12:24
  the the Ty Cats did a big social media post about ~ with like an Airbnb rental
• 1:12:29
  ad for Hamilton Stadium for the Argos.
• 1:12:32
  It was so fun.
• 1:12:34
  see, the some of the social media teams are good at this stuff.
• 1:12:37
  Yeah.
• 1:12:37
  I wish there was more of that.
• 1:12:39
  And and I think the other thing that that was encouraging for Hamilton fans
• 1:12:43
  in this game, despite the fact that that fourth quarter the defense didn't look
• 1:12:49
  as good looked rattled, for three quarters,
• 1:12:51
  they played excellent. And so they you can see Trey doesn't have to come
• 1:12:56
  in there and be Bo. And he doesn't have to come in and be a world beater
• 1:12:59
  for them to win.
• 1:13:01
  He needs to come in and be competent and be able to score some points
• 1:13:05
  and they've got a good enough defense that it will carry them if they need to.
• 1:13:09
  they'll lose some games that they might have won with Bo in there,
• 1:13:12
  but they could easily go, you know,
• 1:13:15
  five hundred or a little better the rest of the season and this idea that they're
• 1:13:19
  done from the playoffs now, maybe not.
• 1:13:22
  Yeah, no, I think you're right.
• 1:13:23
  It showed a lot of that. And I was thinking that,
• 1:13:25
  my comment, full disclosure that,
• 1:13:27
  you know, about the the ~ excuse me,
• 1:13:29
  the crossover being in play, maybe not.
• 1:13:32
  You know, it depends. ~ because,
• 1:13:34
  you know, there there could as you just said,
• 1:13:36
  they could win a bunch more games still.
• 1:13:39
  ~ if they if Milanovich continues to coach as MJ suggested that he did this game,
• 1:13:44
  if he allows Trey to be just what he was,
• 1:13:46
  not too wild but wild enough,
• 1:13:49
  you know, they then then that's that's with the balance,
• 1:13:52
  right? So yeah, they Hamilton could s Hamilton could still be a dangerous team.
• 1:13:54
  And good and Trey
• 1:13:57
  Trey did he was a little more in the pocket than he usually is.
• 1:14:00
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:14:00
  So like I think they kind of had a little like meeting of the minds and came
• 1:14:05
  to an agreement there, so it's good.
• 1:14:09
  it isn't. The other thing that unfortunately watching on TV you you don't really
• 1:14:15
  get to see the exactly what the defense is doing for coverages
• 1:14:18
  the announcers will give you some idea of it sometimes,
• 1:14:21
  but it's not like watching all game.
• 1:14:22
  And I wish I could do that for the last three Toronto games,
• 1:14:26
  'cause I'm wondering, does this show that defenses are maybe figuring
• 1:14:31
  out how to defend that
• 1:14:33
  long ball attack that Kelly did so well with with at the start of
• 1:14:36
  the season because it's three weeks in a row that three different defenses have
• 1:14:40
  played them and every week he's been less successful.
• 1:14:43
  You know, it started with Calgary,
• 1:14:44
  Was it this game where a Ti-cat like D
• 1:14:46
  you know.
• 1:14:51
  Yeah. But it's that you know, if you're in position that's great,
• 1:14:54
  but I'm thinking that they must have figured out what they're running
• 1:14:58
  on that back end, 'cause Calgary held them down quite well.
• 1:15:01
  Then Winnipeg did even better,
• 1:15:03
  and Hamilton, especially for the first three quarters,
• 1:15:05
  did even more. the defensive coordinators in the league figured
• 1:15:08
  out what they're doing with this now.
• 1:15:10
  Defenses are catching up finally.
• 1:15:12
  It's week seven.
• 1:15:14
  Could be.
• 1:15:14
  it'll certainly be an interesting this week against that BC' D backfield.
• 1:15:19
  Yeah,
• 1:15:20
  'cause the well, I tell ya, Toronto's ~ defense is pretty bad.
• 1:15:24
  They look pretty bad. So they yeah,
• 1:15:27
  I don't know ~ whether Quick was the right hire there out of Montreal,
• 1:15:32
  but I don't think he's got that team that defense going at the speed that
• 1:15:35
  it needs to be at. one other thing that I will talk about very briefly on the game,
• 1:15:40
  was you couldn't hear the announcements from the stadium.
• 1:15:42
  For some reason
• 1:15:44
  There was you couldn't the referees were not mic'd properly and at
• 1:15:47
  the beginning you couldn't hear them at all.
• 1:15:49
  And then they were garbled and then the announcers were terrible Then there
• 1:15:54
  was the injury just before the missed field goal.
• 1:15:57
  So there was a lot okay, so Toronto drove down after after Lego missed,
• 1:16:03
  Toronto drove the field and they threw a complete pass and it took them down
• 1:16:06
  to around the twenty yard line.
• 1:16:09
  then the Hamilton had an injury and there was a long pause while everybody
• 1:16:13
  was focused on the injury. maybe on television it looked different,
• 1:16:17
  but here's how it was at the game.
• 1:16:18
  Everybody was looking at the injury on the field.
• 1:16:21
  The ball was at the twenty yard line.
• 1:16:24
  Took at least three to four minutes,
• 1:16:27
  so it was a long time that the before they cleared the injury off of the field.
• 1:16:32
  And all of a sudden, it was first down at the twenty when the injury happened.
• 1:16:37
  the injured players take them off the field,
• 1:16:40
  and all of a sudden it's second and fifteen at the forty five.
• 1:16:44
  And it's like, what happened? There was no call,
• 1:16:48
  there was no explanation. It was just all of a sudden Toronto's backed
• 1:16:54
  up twenty five yards from where they were before when the call was and it was like
• 1:16:59
  The entire stadium was like, What just happened?
• 1:17:02
  How what is going on here? And finally you it had to be,
• 1:17:06
  okay, I assume Toronto got called for procedure and became second
• 1:17:11
  and fifteen and that pass was no longer valid or something.
• 1:17:15
  That's the only thing I could think of because it was not and it was just
• 1:17:20
  A nightmare all game trying to figure out the calls in the stadium.
• 1:17:24
  It was it was really, really tough,
• 1:17:26
  but that one was really, really bad.
• 1:17:28
  you could just feel it. They're like,
• 1:17:30
  What happened there? And no explanation.
• 1:17:32
  Well that
• 1:17:34
  Well that that's bad because from what MJ said,
• 1:17:36
  that's two out of the four games where the PAs did not work well.
• 1:17:39
  And then come on, professional football.
• 1:17:41
  That should be a basic thing I dunno.
• 1:17:43
  I don't know. else that we absolutely
• 1:17:44
  I don't remember it 'cause
• 1:17:45
  I was disassociating at that time.
• 1:17:47
  Yeah.
• 1:17:48
  Perfect.
• 1:17:48
  Yeah. So it's the Hamilton defense apparently.
• 1:17:52
  I was just like, no, here we go.
• 1:17:55
  Yeah. I had a great time I mean it was on T V so you could sorta see it,
• 1:17:59
  but I had a great time just picturing the reaction of Hamilton fans when that field
• 1:18:04
  goal was missed. Because I was fairly sure there'd be that two seconds
• 1:18:07
  Did everyone kinda like
• 1:18:09
  of of shock and bo and then just
• 1:18:11
  Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.
• 1:18:12
  Because
• 1:18:13
  we all thought it was going to overtime and then you're like,
• 1:18:14
  Yeah. Yeah. And I imagine
• 1:18:15
  Wait, no. Wait, it's yeah.
• 1:18:19
  knowing the reputation of Hamilton fans,
• 1:18:21
  they probably were very, very sympathetic to Hyrule as he was coming off the field.
• 1:18:26
  Sure.
• 1:18:28
  Yes. Okay. J jumping on. The last game.
• 1:18:31
  The last game of the the they don't ask how how they ask how many weekend
• 1:18:37
  was Winnipeg 36 at Ottawa 34. The bulk of this scoring was in overtime actually.
• 1:18:42
  And my note said Ottawa finds new ways to lose games.
• 1:18:47
  Because I mean they went up they started the game.
• 1:18:50
  I didn't see the most of the first quarter,
• 1:18:51
  thanks T S N. So quit whining about that.
• 1:18:54
  But they traded field goals for a while,
• 1:18:56
  and then late the half
• 1:18:58
  Ottawa got an extra field goal and then got a chance and put a touchdown in
• 1:19:03
  to go up by 10 points, 19-9. Then they came out in the second half
• 1:19:07
  and had basically at the ball on the two-yard line and ran short yardage three times
• 1:19:12
  and didn't get in and turned it over on downs.
• 1:19:14
  And then they after Winnipeg had the punt,
• 1:19:18
  they came back and were close to scoring and threw an interception in the end zone.
• 1:19:22
  So I would say between either of those,
• 1:19:24
  at it should have been at least 33 to 9.
• 1:19:27
  But it wasn't. It was 20. They finally got a touchdown in and it became 26-9.
• 1:19:31
  And then they didn't score again until overtime.
• 1:19:34
  they gave up 17 points to Winnipeg.
• 1:19:38
  It looked to me a lot like Elk games from two or three years ago.
• 1:19:41
  Where they'd be in it and in it,
• 1:19:43
  and then there was just so much self-doubt that once they started to crumble,
• 1:19:46
  they crumbled. And ~ yeah, there was some positive stuff.
• 1:19:49
  Maier
• 1:19:51
  Winnipeg tried blitzing him at the end of the game quarter end of the first half
• 1:19:56
  and into the second half, and he beat the blitz nicely quite a few times.
• 1:19:59
  But there was also stupid stuff.
• 1:20:00
  they went through the two minigames of the overtime and both got field goals
• 1:20:06
  in those. Neither could do much offensively at all.
• 1:20:08
  Then they went into two point converts and Ottawa for some reason decides they're
• 1:20:12
  gonna run a soft zone against a two point convert.
• 1:20:16
  twice and lose the game on it.
• 1:20:19
  I I don't know.
• 1:20:22
  Who wants to go first?
• 1:20:25
  ~ I thought this was a pretty bad game by both teams and neither team,
• 1:20:28
  you know, this was the game that should have been a tie 'cause neither team deserved
• 1:20:31
  to win it. and
• 1:20:33
  That's exactly what my note says.
• 1:20:34
  Ha ha ha ~
• 1:20:35
  Yes.
• 1:20:36
  And it wasn't a tie 'cause of new rules again.
• 1:20:37
  Like if any game deserved to have a tie.
• 1:20:38
  Yeah.
• 1:20:43
  for all the hype we wanted to have,
• 1:20:45
  neither the neither the quarterbacks are good or bad enough to feel sympathy
• 1:20:49
  or empathy for them. it was just not a great game.
• 1:20:52
  It was kind of ugly. And and yeah,
• 1:20:55
  I'm not sure about the overtime.
• 1:20:57
  I've heard various people talk about it so far,
• 1:21:00
  you know.
• 1:21:00
  Whether they like the new rules or not.
• 1:21:03
  I wasn't ~ I was okay with it,
• 1:21:05
  but I don't I never had a problem with the tie.
• 1:21:07
  So I would have been fine if it hadn't been tied after the two regulation overtime,
• 1:21:12
  whatever drives, whatever the case may be.
• 1:21:14
  so I wonder though, I have this question,
• 1:21:18
  about this overtime. You I you get those points.
• 1:21:21
  So the score becomes the points that you score in overtime.
• 1:21:26
  Which in this case was a few, right?
• 1:21:28
  They scored a bunch of points each.
• 1:21:30
  How does that impact late if there's a tie at the end of the season you're
• 1:21:34
  now into points for and against?
• 1:21:36
  You're it's like you're getting extra points that another team doesn't have
• 1:21:40
  the opportunity in another game to match.
• 1:21:43
  so that's something I've never been fond of.
• 1:21:46
  I almost feel like you should get two points in the standings for the win,
• 1:21:50
  but your points should just be whatever you had at the end of regulation.
• 1:21:54
  when it comes down to br tiebreakers later on or something like that.
• 1:21:54
  Yeah. ~
• 1:21:58
  just just 'cause I it's I get it,
• 1:22:01
  but it's kind of a it's an inflated score that I don't think is a real score.
• 1:22:05
  No, I kind of agree with you on that.
• 1:22:07
  it's also true within fantasy.
• 1:22:08
  You get the points further in overtime too,
• 1:22:11
  which I guess is what it is. I thought what you said about it not being
• 1:22:15
  a great game by either team, I thought that sort of the the the whole feel
• 1:22:20
  of this game was encapsulated late in the game when Winnipeg was trying
• 1:22:25
  to come back and they were still down a little bit.
• 1:22:27
  But they score a touchdown.
• 1:22:29
  Which is great. Now they're I think they were down by three at that point
• 1:22:33
  or maybe six, I don't know anyway.
• 1:22:34
  They kick off and they kick it out of bounds.
• 1:22:37
  So Ottawa gets the ball on the fifty yard line.
• 1:22:41
  Okay, so this is good. They can go and get some more points and increase their lead,
• 1:22:46
  but no, they can't do anything with it.
• 1:22:47
  Well, okay, at least we'll pin them deep.
• 1:22:49
  And their punter shanks it out of bounds and takes a ten-yard penalty,
• 1:22:53
  and they get the ball basically almost at midfield again.
• 1:22:57
  So it was like both teams just
• 1:22:59
  kept giving each other chances to do something.
• 1:23:02
  Ottawa there were five or six times they should have had interceptions.
• 1:23:07
  A couple of them would have ended the game outright and just flat out drop balls.
• 1:23:11
  You're looking I wanted to hear you MJ.
• 1:23:13
  When you are no well when
• 1:23:15
  you are
• 1:23:16
  Okay, I've sat in Commonwealth Stadium.
• 1:23:18
  I I have cheered for a one in seventeen team.
• 1:23:21
  When you're in that hole, those things just seem to happen to you.
• 1:23:26
  Balls just bounce off your hands.
• 1:23:29
  Like they go off your tip. You balls get like it's just nothing is gonna
• 1:23:33
  go your way when it's like that.
• 1:23:36
  And they could have easily won that game four times.
• 1:23:39
  They had four dropped interceptions between like the end of the fourth and an OT.
• 1:23:44
  And but
• 1:23:44
  It's just it is it's just it's gonna do that.
• 1:23:47
  The the football gods are gonna it's just the vibes are bad and nothing's gonna
• 1:23:52
  go your way. It's just that's how it is.
• 1:23:53
  Yeah, I agree.
• 1:23:56
  what in hockey they call clutching the stick a little too tight.
• 1:23:59
  Yeah. Just everything matters a little bit more.
• 1:24:03
  Yeah, you're not you're not in the flow,
• 1:24:05
  right? You're overthinking things,
• 1:24:06
  just even a fraction of a second you're overthinking it and it's just yeah,
• 1:24:10
  Yeah.
• 1:24:11
  I did see some ~ social media stuff about the post game comments by Jake Mayer,
• 1:24:16
  where people seemed to be pretty upset that he didn't seem to be that pissed
• 1:24:21
  off about the losses. He was more like,
• 1:24:23
  ~ you know, we're doing okay. We're getting better.
• 1:24:26
  I'm like
• 1:24:27
  Yeah, that's what I watched for four years in Calgary.
• 1:24:29
  That's where that's Jake Mayer.
• 1:24:31
  Welcome to the Jake Mayer experience.
• 1:24:32
  It just will never get you to the point where he's just like angry enough
• 1:24:38
  to take a team and and shake and throttle them.
• 1:24:41
  And I think that's what you need at some point.
• 1:24:42
  Yeah.
• 1:24:43
  Somebody to just and it can't be the coaches.
• 1:24:46
  It has to be the players. There has to be a player there that takes them
• 1:24:50
  and throttles the rest of the team and shakes them out of that lethargic.
• 1:24:53
  state that you just talked about,
• 1:24:55
  MJ, and gets them back into into like being mad at themselves.
• 1:24:56
  Well, you know what?
• 1:24:59
  And I don't know that they're mad at themselves.
• 1:25:01
  I think they're it looks like they're kind of already checked out
• 1:25:04
  as we talked about.
• 1:25:06
  Cody did that in Montreal and he's doing it in Edmonton this year.
• 1:25:08
  Yeah. Well.
• 1:25:08
  You know a little fire and brimstone QB in there,
• 1:25:09
  it's
• 1:25:12
  just short term, right? Just
• 1:25:15
  It's interesting because part of the report early on was that Dinwiddie went with
• 1:25:20
  Maier rather than Brown 'cause Brown was too laid back for him and
• 1:25:23
  he wanted a quarterback that had more fight and and anger in him.
• 1:25:28
  And that's not what I've seen with Maier at any point.
• 1:25:30
  But yeah, it was very much sort of almost like a well,
• 1:25:31
  But I guess there's a difference
• 1:25:32
  whatcha gonna do?
• 1:25:33
  there's a difference between being laid back and being unflappable.
• 1:25:37
  And maybe Jake I don't know, I don't see him at practice.
• 1:25:41
  I don't see him talking to people on the sidelines.
• 1:25:43
  Maybe he's on more of the unflappable side than the other but yeah.
• 1:25:49
  All I know is that he was running for his ~ like yeah,
• 1:25:52
  it was it was tough. It was tough both sides.
• 1:25:54
  Winnipeg played down. I don't know if Winnipeg's just that bad or
• 1:25:57
  if they played down. But it was a bad game.
• 1:25:59
  Well, it wasn't
• 1:26:00
  impressive
• 1:26:01
  I was just gonna say I think this week will show a bunch about a bunch of teams.
• 1:26:04
  This is an interesting week coming up.
• 1:26:06
  with the matchups that are going on and where people are in the standings
• 1:26:11
  and how people are playing, I think this is gonna be an interesting weekend
• 1:26:15
  and show us a lot about ~ where these teams are.
• 1:26:19
  Is Calgary any good or not? 'Cause right now you can't tell.
• 1:26:24
  Is Winnipeg playing above their heads or ~ did did they get lucky in
• 1:26:29
  the last two games?
• 1:26:30
  Or not, we don't know. I think that's still to tell.
• 1:26:33
  Is that a one game fluke from Trey Ford,
• 1:26:36
  or is that or is he the guy that can carry Hamilton?
• 1:26:39
  We'll find that out. is BC already written off or can they win and get back
• 1:26:44
  on the get back in, you know, in some kind of rhythm?
• 1:26:48
  'Cause if they lose this weekend to Toronto,
• 1:26:50
  they're they're basically done,
• 1:26:51
  you know, and Ottawa is done pr pretty much.
• 1:26:55
  is Toronto, after these last three weeks,
• 1:26:58
  are they any good or not? We don't know.
• 1:27:00
  well we'll find out 'cause they certainly look pretty good even when they were
• 1:27:03
  losing in those first three weeks,
• 1:27:05
  and now they look pretty bad in the last few weeks.
• 1:27:07
  even Edmonton and Saskatchewan is gonna be a really interesting game
• 1:27:10
  to see which team comes out. Sorry,
• 1:27:13
  I'm gonna jumping into next week's games,
• 1:27:15
  but I just feel like this weekend coming up is gonna show us a
• 1:27:18
  lot about what's going on with
• 1:27:20
  All of w across the league.
• 1:27:22
  Yeah, I agree. And and let's get to that,
• 1:27:24
  but just cause I mentioned earlier,
• 1:27:26
  I thought Condell was also doing this stuff of outthinking himself.
• 1:27:30
  And again, they're winning, but they're not using Brady the way that
• 1:27:35
  I would expect him to be used.
• 1:27:37
  Later in the game they go to him some,
• 1:27:39
  but you know, I'm watching that first half and they're just not running the ball,
• 1:27:42
  running the ball at all a running play,
• 1:27:44
  great. Wait, wait a minute. They're running with Chris what it?
• 1:27:47
  Or Michael Chris ~ Isaac Chris Isaac,
• 1:27:49
  Michael Christ I, yeah.
• 1:27:50
  Chris Ike? Yeah, and they split Brady out as a receiver and
• 1:27:55
  You've got a weapon. Use But anyway,
• 1:27:58
  let's let's get on to the stuff talk go ahead.
• 1:28:00
  No, I
• 1:28:00
  just you guys, I just okay.
• 1:28:03
  I will just sum up this game for us in a little play sequence that summed
• 1:28:06
  up how this game was just ridiculous.
• 1:28:09
  Okay. Fletcher got a grade two roughing penalty on Maier and with the
• 1:28:15
  it was a 59-yard net gain. But then they got stuffed at the goal line,
• 1:28:20
  and then the bombers went out,
• 1:28:23
  went two and out on that. And that just sums up how that game went for everyone.
• 1:28:29
  And then another broke record,
• 1:28:29
  Yep.
• 1:28:32
  guys, another record.
• 1:28:33
  Willie Jefferson is the only 8080 player.
• 1:28:35
  He has 80 sacks and 80 pass knockdowns.
• 1:28:38
  Mm-hmm. Yeah, he's he still does impact the games.
• 1:28:42
  Yes, he does.
• 1:28:43
  Yeah.
• 1:28:44
  And I just wanna quickly voice my opinion about this overtime convert stuff
• 1:28:49
  and I did not enjoy that at all.
• 1:28:51
  It looked okay, me personally I think it looked really gimmicky.
• 1:28:54
  and no one knew what they were doing and I just what why are
• 1:28:57
  we making people gun-out two-point converts?
• 1:29:00
  Like why weren't we just playing mini games?
• 1:29:01
  And honestly, I think if you survive two minigames,
• 1:29:05
  you should get a point in the standings.
• 1:29:08
  this the first time I got to see the going to the two point convert thing and yeah,
• 1:29:11
  It was stupid. It was stupid. Yeah.
• 1:29:12
  it it looked Mickey Mouse to me.
• 1:29:15
  It looked like like something cheap.
• 1:29:15
  I understand
• 1:29:16
  I mean
• 1:29:17
  they're trying to look like shootouts in hockey,
• 1:29:19
  but and they're trying to do like penalty kicks in soccer,
• 1:29:22
  but I don't like penalty kicks in soccer and I don't like shootouts in hockey.
• 1:29:25
  don't like two-point converts in football.
• 1:29:28
  In overtime.
• 1:29:28
  No, go go for
• 1:29:30
  go for the two game mini games and then I can live with a tie.
• 1:29:34
  And you're right, this game should have been a tie,
• 1:29:36
  frankly. Or I mean, why do you pick a two point convert?
• 1:29:40
  If you're if you're gonna do that,
• 1:29:42
  if you're gonna say, we have to have some kind of shootout,
• 1:29:44
  go the other way. Say, okay, we'll do our two mini games.
• 1:29:48
  Then each team lines up at the thirty-five and kicks a field goal.
• 1:29:51
  If they both make it, they line up at the forty and kick a field goal.
• 1:29:54
  And then they line up at the forty five and just keep going back that way.
• 1:29:57
  Yeah.
• 1:29:57
  People
• 1:29:58
  well that's not offense. two point converts not offense either.
• 1:29:59
  Two returners stand
• 1:30:01
  at one end of the field, each has a ball,
• 1:30:03
  and whoever makes it to the other end first is the winner of this game.
• 1:30:05
  Yeah.
• 1:30:08
  Yeah, put your two
• 1:30:09
  fastest guys out in a race. What the hell?
• 1:30:11
  It just it's just seems like such a sad little trickle tragic ending to what
• 1:30:17
  was I mean was it a good game?
• 1:30:20
  I mean the defenses tried and I mean it it came down to the wire,
• 1:30:24
  but it just it's just s really just I don't know.
• 1:30:28
  I didn't like it.
• 1:30:29
  But w what what
• 1:30:30
  if you had it with one of those games where I don't know,
• 1:30:35
  like I'm not saying this season,
• 1:30:36
  but that they're capable of. A game where it's Montreal and Calgary
• 1:30:40
  and their offen their defenses play well,
• 1:30:43
  but their offenses play better.
• 1:30:45
  And at the end of regulation it's thirty seven thirty-seven.
• 1:30:49
  And they go through two mini games and they both score touchdowns and two pointers.
• 1:30:53
  So now you're into the fifties and they go into
• 1:30:56
  two point converts and they're playing so well that there's six or seven
• 1:31:00
  of those and then finally somebody drops a pass.
• 1:31:03
  How would that be satisfying to anybody?
• 1:31:06
  You know, it's just in a game like this where it was not a great game,
• 1:31:11
  it was annoying enough as it was.
• 1:31:13
  But to me it just it disrespects a great game if you're saying,
• 1:31:17
  well we're gonna keep doing this crap until somehow we get a winner.
• 1:31:21
  Yeah. Well yeah, I I mean
• 1:31:22
  My opinion.
• 1:31:24
  This is brought to you by Fanduel Bet360.
• 1:31:27
  Okay.
• 1:31:28
  No ties for you.
• 1:31:30
  Yeah, well,
• 1:31:31
  we said that from the get-go, right?
• 1:31:33
  So I yeah, I agree with you a hundred percent.
• 1:31:33
  Yeah.
• 1:31:35
  And as I said, I didn't and never had a problem with ties.
• 1:31:38
  and I don't think again this is gonna happen that often.
• 1:31:41
  It's like a tie is every couple of years there's a tie.
• 1:31:45
  So I don't want to get all bent out of shape about it.
• 1:31:47
  It they've made a decision. It could be worse.
• 1:31:50
  It could have been a field goal kicking contest,
• 1:31:52
  which is like ridiculous. At least this is a a football play that they practice
• 1:31:57
  every day. And there it is the it is a offense versus a defense.
• 1:32:02
  It's not one guy, you know, kicking a ball.
• 1:32:05
  So I kind of I I'm all right with it as I I don't I would if they were gonna
• 1:32:10
  do this.
• 1:32:11
  and get rid of ties and had to have some mechanism to do it.
• 1:32:15
  This is as good a mechanism as any.
• 1:32:17
  So I'm, you know, and next year when they move the goal post,
• 1:32:21
  it opens up the middle of the field.
• 1:32:23
  So it makes that two-point conversion even a little more interesting because you're
• 1:32:27
  going to have more room. Cause it's really the goal post at the front
• 1:32:30
  of the end zone when you're on the three yard line does come into play.
• 1:32:34
  Versus when you're you know further back,
• 1:32:37
  it's not so much because you can work around it for your angles.
• 1:32:40
  again, it's not it's not I it's not worth getting worked up on.
• 1:32:44
  I get I got other stuff I can get worked up on about rather than death.
• 1:32:50
  Yes, and I I understand that.
• 1:32:50
  You know, I'm I I get agitated
• 1:32:52
  easily. I get agitated easily,
• 1:32:54
  but this one's not gonna get so
• 1:32:57
  Yeah,
• 1:32:57
  I'm probably more agitated by or sounding like it than I need to be.
• 1:33:01
  It's just it was a case of they came up with this thing and I didn't really have
• 1:33:06
  an opinion one way or the other.
• 1:33:07
  But the first time I actually saw this in action going beyond the mini games,
• 1:33:12
  it just it didn't look good to me.
• 1:33:15
  It didn't look like professional football.
• 1:33:17
  Well
• 1:33:18
  well, I think what didn't help was the fact that they didn't know who went next
• 1:33:22
  and they're yelling at each other and it wasn't well executed.
• 1:33:23
  Yeah.
• 1:33:25
  If it was like, okay, guys on off the field and it's like executed properly with
• 1:33:31
  a and maybe a bit more time between each one so that the coaches can
• 1:33:36
  get the proper personnel on and off of the field,
• 1:33:38
  rather than it's like it it just seemed a little discombobulated for want
• 1:33:43
  of a better phrase. So maybe that's
• 1:33:46
  Part of why it looked as bad as it did?
• 1:33:48
  I don't know.
• 1:33:49
  Yeah. And and they have had that problem with overtime earlier this season.
• 1:33:51
  Sprint from one end to the other.
• 1:33:54
  I can't rem I can't remember which game it was,
• 1:33:56
  but there I do remember at the time one of the games went to overtime and
• 1:34:00
  it went to two mini games before it was decided.
• 1:34:02
  And they came out and one team went first on offense and the other team
• 1:34:06
  had defense as you'd expect. And then they came out and rather than switching that
• 1:34:10
  up for the second mini game it was the same order.
• 1:34:12
  they just seem confused by it.
• 1:34:13
  Anyway, enough.
• 1:34:16
  Enough of that. We're going to go to the future now.
• 1:34:19
  Power rankings, the GT Barnum official CFL Outsiders Power Rankings
• 1:34:24
  for week eight are
• 1:34:26
  Number one, new number one again this week.
• 1:34:28
  This week the Aloettes move into first place after coming after winning
• 1:34:33
  a game that they could have lost,
• 1:34:36
  but they won. ~ and they looked very good in throughout the game,
• 1:34:40
  ~ on most of it at least. Edmonton slides to number two because they won
• 1:34:45
  a game but looked pretty bad, in my opinion,
• 1:34:48
  and could have lost very easily.
• 1:34:50
  So I'm gonna give them I'm gonna move them down a spot.
• 1:34:53
  Saskatchewan stays at number three.
• 1:34:56
  they're the you know, we'll see how they look this week.
• 1:34:58
  Winnipeg at number four because they won.
• 1:35:01
  Calgary at number five because they lost.
• 1:35:04
  even though I think they're a better team than Winnipeg,
• 1:35:06
  I Winnipeg's play you know, has a better record and they won.
• 1:35:09
  So I will give them number four.
• 1:35:11
  number six is Hamilton because it they might have hope after all.
• 1:35:15
  Number seven is Toronto because they look bad.
• 1:35:18
  BC is number eight because they look bad and it doesn't look like they have
• 1:35:23
  a lot of hope at right this week.
• 1:35:24
  And Ottawa just because they look really bad continues to be in the
• 1:35:30
  I feel like I can endorse those.
• 1:35:31
  They sound good to me.
• 1:35:34
  This announcement brought to you by yes,
• 1:35:36
  there you go.
• 1:35:37
  Yes, yes.
• 1:35:39
  A any complaints, MJ? You wanted Hamilton back in first?
• 1:35:42
  look at look at Hamilton climbing those standings.
• 1:35:45
  Ha ha
• 1:35:45
  ha.
• 1:35:46
  I would have Calgary over the bombers,
• 1:35:48
  but other than that, I agree.
• 1:35:50
  Yeah.
• 1:35:51
  as everyone keeps reminding me,
• 1:35:53
  power rankings are a snapshot in time.
• 1:35:55
  And yeah, it's that one's a close one.
• 1:35:57
  Okay, Calgary
• 1:35:59
  went up against the top team in the league and almost won.
• 1:36:01
  Yes.
• 1:36:02
  The Bombers were playing the worst team in the league and they should have lost.
• 1:36:07
  Yeah. So okay. So so so that
• 1:36:08
  And almost lost, so that's why I would have switched them.
• 1:36:12
  that's a that's an interesting point.
• 1:36:14
  Maybe maybe we'll have to call GT on this if he picks Calgary over Winnipeg this
• 1:36:18
  weekend, 'cause that would have meant they should have been up there.
• 1:36:21
  But we'll see.
• 1:36:22
  Yeah, I I also ta I
• 1:36:23
  also take into it a bit of the standings as well.
• 1:36:26
  And you know, it's where they are today and a snapshot in time as you call it,
• 1:36:27
  Yeah.
• 1:36:31
  old man. but it's also a little bit of where they can be and ~ not where they will
• 1:36:36
  end up, but where they can be.
• 1:36:37
  And right now Winnipeg is I think two games ahead of Calgary.
• 1:36:42
  So that's that's significant.
• 1:36:43
  Yep.
• 1:36:44
  Yeah. Yes. And it's easy to sit here in the peanut gallery and take shots,
• 1:36:45
  That's significant.
• 1:36:49
  but I'm very glad you're doing this.
• 1:36:51
  I wouldn't want want to be the one to make the ranking.
• 1:36:53
  So thank you.
• 1:36:54
  Well,
• 1:36:54
  a as long as you're not as long as you're not delivering,
• 1:36:57
  you know, the the hate mail to me,
• 1:36:59
  as long as it's getting lost in the mail,
• 1:37:00
  Yeah.
• 1:37:01
  I don't care.
• 1:37:03
  Return to sender.
• 1:37:03
  There we go, yes.
• 1:37:04
  Ha ha ha.
• 1:37:05
  All right, ~ moving on before we pick our games.
• 1:37:07
  Just the last bit of information we've been doing lately,
• 1:37:10
  the injury reports. Edmonton and Saskatchewan,
• 1:37:12
  they're playing Thursday, their depth charts will come out tomorrow,
• 1:37:16
  but they've already mentioned rated or listed players as questionable,
• 1:37:20
  doubtful, or out. And for Edmonton,
• 1:37:22
  ~ Boyko, Mechie, and Mogenston
• 1:37:25
  are all questionable and O'Donnell and Verde at the global linebacker are doubtful.
• 1:37:30
  So that could be a problem for their line,
• 1:37:33
  their O line. Saskatchewan Lacumbo is out and Milligan is listed back
• 1:37:38
  as questionable. So he may or may not be back this week.
• 1:37:42
  We'll have to see. they it'll be interesting to see where they scramble
• 1:37:46
  in because w the
• 1:37:48
  The whole Dalke thing is about so much more than football,
• 1:37:51
  but it is also true they are down a de ~ a linebackerslash defen DB now.
• 1:37:55
  So where do they go from that?
• 1:37:57
  Calgary, good news in their defensive backfield,
• 1:38:00
  which they've if they've struggled at all lately,
• 1:38:03
  it's probably there. And ~ Grant was back listed as full participant this week.
• 1:38:08
  So hopefully he'll he may be back in.
• 1:38:12
  Moncrief was did not participate for so far in practice.
• 1:38:17
  Winnipeg had no report. Toronto.
• 1:38:20
  If these are all people that are out,
• 1:38:23
  this could be ugly. Chatfield,
• 1:38:26
  Haggerty the punter again. Judge and Shepley all were on,
• 1:38:29
  did not participate this week.
• 1:38:31
  So that could be bad.
• 1:38:34
  BC they've got a whole laundry list of players.
• 1:38:38
  Bell from the defensive line and Rourke,
• 1:38:41
  of course, were did not participate.
• 1:38:43
  They had nine people on limited,
• 1:38:45
  but that included some of those receivers that are out like Berry Hill and Cote.
• 1:38:49
  So they ~ they may be coming back.
• 1:38:52
  And of course, Hamilton and Montreal,
• 1:38:54
  there's no reports from yet, because they play on Sunday night.
• 1:38:56
  So that takes us to our game predictions.
• 1:39:00
  Coming up this week, Edmonton at Saskatchewan.
• 1:39:04
  I've decided I might as well just say right now,
• 1:39:07
  barring any sort of injury.
• 1:39:09
  At this point, I figure Saskatchewan's got a chance of winning every game,
• 1:39:13
  so they're not gonna win out the season.
• 1:39:15
  But I'm gonna pick them for any game they're in unless something happens that really
• 1:39:19
  changes that dynamic. So I'm going Saskatchewan.
• 1:39:22
  How about you, GT?
• 1:39:24
  Well, under the circumstances like I would normally take in Saskatchewan.
• 1:39:29
  Under the circumstances, I think this one's harder to pick because again,
• 1:39:35
  I'm trying not to be callous, but do they win one for Jaden
• 1:39:41
  or do they or are is it are they so messed up by everything that they're
• 1:39:45
  not able to play to their full potential?
• 1:39:48
  Or want to win one so hard that they just ~
• 1:39:52
  as you said earlier, clutch the stick too tight.
• 1:39:54
  Edmonton is looser coming into this and Edmonton wants to play better after that
• 1:39:58
  debacle last week too, I'm sure.
• 1:40:00
  So I think this is a pretty tough one to to to pick.
• 1:40:04
  but I still think Saskatchewan just has the experience they have what it takes.
• 1:40:10
  They should be able to win this game.
• 1:40:12
  So I'm going Saskatchewan
• 1:40:14
  Alright, so the Riders have some special teams issues,
• 1:40:18
  mostly with kicking Elks do not have that issue.
• 1:40:18
  Yes.
• 1:40:21
  Riders have not been playing super great.
• 1:40:24
  Harris did not have a good game last time he played.
• 1:40:26
  the Elks are having winning games,
• 1:40:28
  they have no business winning,
• 1:40:30
  and for that reason I'm gonna pick them.
• 1:40:33
  Okay.
• 1:40:34
  maybe I could have said more. This one is really tough 'cause there's
• 1:40:36
  so much around it with the the emotions And like MJ said,
• 1:40:41
  there the riders kicking game is in question.
• 1:40:43
  The Riders return game is in question.
• 1:40:46
  they were having Daniel Weibe doing Hm Yeah.
• 1:40:46
  Maybe they'll pick up Alfred this week.
• 1:40:50
  Well I don't see that that by Thursday,
• 1:40:52
  so but we'll we'll see maybe. It's
• 1:40:55
  Yeah, so there there's a an awful lot there with it.
• 1:40:58
  And it I could see it going either way.
• 1:41:00
  To tell you the truth, to me, the question is going to be as good as
• 1:41:05
  the riders' run defense is, it seems like every game they
• 1:41:11
  get gashed for one or two runs that go ten,
• 1:41:15
  twelve yards. And that doesn't kill them.
• 1:41:17
  But if Rankin does that to you,
• 1:41:19
  that can kill you 'cause
• 1:41:21
  There's a good chance he won't be stopping at 12 yards.
• 1:41:24
  So can they bottle him up the way BC did?
• 1:41:27
  And I think if they do, I don't see ~ Edmonton winning a passing shootout kind
• 1:41:33
  of game. But you never know. That Edmonton defense is also JC Sherrett's second year
• 1:41:39
  as defensive coordinator, and he's got them up a couple of levels
• 1:41:42
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:41:43
  in what he's playing. So yeah,
• 1:41:45
  ~ Rankin's gonna be
• 1:41:46
  so we'll see. Anyway.
• 1:41:47
  Rankin's gonna be really mad about what happened in the last game,
• 1:41:50
  so he'll be he'll be fired up.
• 1:41:52
  Yeah.
• 1:41:53
  Yeah. But again, to me it's not it's gonna be trouble 'cause Rankin's trying harder,
• 1:41:59
  'cause Rankin is trouble anytime.
• 1:42:01
  It's you know, it's yes, he's gonna want more yards than that,
• 1:42:04
  but it's just can they do they stop him?
• 1:42:06
  That's and that's gonna be the question for every team that goes against Edmonton
• 1:42:10
  this year. You stop Rankin, you got a good chance of winning.
• 1:42:13
  You let him do what he he does get in the open and start
• 1:42:15
  running for big chunks of yardage,
• 1:42:17
  you're gonna lose.
• 1:42:18
  Well, B C stopped and they still lost.
• 1:42:20
  So mm.
• 1:42:21
  Yeah, I know,
• 1:42:22
  but that was again a different scenario.
• 1:42:24
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:42:24
  That can happen to anyone. It's any game.
• 1:42:27
  Hopefully not, but you just never know.
• 1:42:28
  Calgary at Winnipeg.
• 1:42:29
  CFL.
• 1:42:32
  GT, you go foist.
• 1:42:34
  ~ I think Calgary's a better football team than Winnipeg right now,
• 1:42:37
  even though they have a worse record.
• 1:42:39
  and I think that they're sooner or later going to get some of those breaks.
• 1:42:43
  but do they ~ they have to come out of the gate faster?
• 1:42:47
  I think the first quarter defines this game.
• 1:42:50
  If Calgary comes out of the gate first quarter,
• 1:42:52
  then I think they can win the game.
• 1:42:54
  if they start off slow, mm I
• 1:42:57
  Certainly can take Winnipeg, it's in Winnipeg,
• 1:42:59
  so that's tough. It's the first of three in a row on the road for Calgary,
• 1:43:03
  which is kind of weird at this time of year to be out on the road
• 1:43:05
  for three straight games. but I'm g so I'm taking Calgary.
• 1:43:09
  I'm taking Calgary.
• 1:43:11
  MJ.
• 1:43:12
  Alright, so anytime I think that Tommy Condell has proven me wrong and I'm like,
• 1:43:17
  ~ sorry, my bad. He just like no forgets Brady plays on his team.
• 1:43:22
  they played so bad. They played so bad.
• 1:43:25
  Again, like I said, Calgary lost a c they they made it close against Montreal,
• 1:43:30
  who's the best team in league.
• 1:43:31
  Winnipeg it was close against the worst team in the league,
• 1:43:33
  so I think I think Calgary's gonna finally pull it out here.
• 1:43:36
  If yeah.
• 1:43:37
  Okay.
• 1:43:38
  Well, I I look at what's going on and Calgary has lost a a cup I think a couple
• 1:43:44
  in a row now, haven't they? yeah,
• 1:43:45
  like both to Montreal, but they were both good games and and close games.
• 1:43:49
  Winnipeg is really has been for the last five years really hard to beat at home.
• 1:43:54
  they'll have probably have another sellout crowd,
• 1:43:56
  thirty two thousand. So that puts it up there.
• 1:43:59
  And Brown can make them competitive.
• 1:44:02
  So with all of that, my rational side says,
• 1:44:05
  you know, maybe Winnipeg, but I I just don't see it.
• 1:44:09
  I think in week one when they played,
• 1:44:12
  the teams were fairly even. I think since then,
• 1:44:16
  Winnipeg hasn't progressed a lot and Calgary has.
• 1:44:20
  So I'm going with the stamps on this one.
• 1:44:22
  That takes us to Toronto and BC.
• 1:44:26
  And let's see. Yeah, you haven't gone first yet,
• 1:44:29
  MJ, how about you?
• 1:44:31
  Right, Toronto's defense looked really bad.
• 1:44:36
  BC hung in there against the one of the top teams of the league.
• 1:44:40
  Okay. So remember last year when Hurslow and Arbuckle like popped off?
• 1:44:45
  Because I was like, ha ha ha, they've both been doing like second team reps together
• 1:44:50
  all season. A lot of those receivers lining up right now have been doing second team
• 1:44:55
  reps with Chase Brice for a while.
• 1:44:57
  So they might do okay. Like Chase,
• 1:44:59
  I mean he had four interceptions,
• 1:45:00
  four interceptions, but I mean he did okay.
• 1:45:02
  He had that really nice pass to Hatcher,
• 1:45:03
  and he did not have any.
• 1:45:05
  First team reps that week. It was just like,
• 1:45:07
  second, third play of the game.
• 1:45:08
  Come on in. it's finally a BC home game there at home now.
• 1:45:12
  Toronto's still on the road. I think some defenses are figuring out,
• 1:45:16
  as we talked about, they've figured out Chad Kelly.
• 1:45:18
  So I'm gonna I'm gonna go on a limb,
• 1:45:20
  and I think that BC's gonna eke this out at home.
• 1:45:23
  Okay, and I'll maybe go next and I'll say I think that BC's defense
• 1:45:29
  has been getting a lot of credit this last couple of weeks that doesn't actually
• 1:45:34
  indicate they're playing better.
• 1:45:36
  It indicates that they played a team they match up well against,
• 1:45:38
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:45:39
  and their defense is much better designed to stop them than they are Toronto.
• 1:45:43
  I have no faith in that BC Toronto's defense is playing terrible.
• 1:45:48
  BC's defensive backfield is worse.
• 1:45:51
  So
• 1:45:53
  Unless the one thing that could change this is if BC gets a good pass rush going.
• 1:45:58
  Again, if Toronto's O line holds up even worse and apparently Shepley
• 1:46:02
  may not be back in and stuff. So it's possible,
• 1:46:05
  but it's not a late late game.
• 1:46:06
  It's a four o'clock game, so it's like playing seven o'clock Toronto time.
• 1:46:10
  And I just think Kelly will exploit a bad defense far more than BC will
• 1:46:15
  be able to exploit.
• 1:46:17
  a bad Toronto defense. So I think it's Toronto and I don't think it's really close.
• 1:46:22
  I think it's eight to ten points.
• 1:46:25
  How about you, GT?
• 1:46:27
  I think when you've got a really good quarterback,
• 1:46:31
  up upper echelon quarterback in the league versus a guy that's making
• 1:46:37
  his second his technically his first start,
• 1:46:39
  I think. yeah, I'm taking Toronto.
• 1:46:42
  I'm taking Toronto but I believe B C's gonna score a bunch of points not because,
• 1:46:48
  Chase Price is is
• 1:46:49
  the next best thing, but simply because Toronto's defense is that bad
• 1:46:53
  and I think that they're going so I think it's gonna be a high scoring game.
• 1:46:56
  I would take the over. Whatever it is,
• 1:46:58
  I'd take the over. ~ 'cause ~ I agree with you that Kelly's you know Toronto's gonna
• 1:46:59
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:47:03
  take advantage of B C's secondary,
• 1:47:06
  but I think Toronto or B C's just gonna take advantage of Toronto's defense,
• 1:47:10
  period. So yeah, I'd take the over.
• 1:47:14
  I definitely agree with that. A spoiler alert for anyone who doesn't get
• 1:47:19
  a chance to tune in to Old Man plays C FL Fantasy on Thursday afternoon when
• 1:47:23
  it drops. I'm pretty sure Kelly's my guy this week,
• 1:47:26
  'cause there's about four choices out there and the other three
• 1:47:31
  are all playing against relatively good defenses one way or the other.
• 1:47:35
  And Kelly isn't. I'm thinking,
• 1:47:37
  yeah, this could
• 1:47:38
  This could be another game that looks like the sort of the reverse score
• 1:47:43
  of the ~ Calgary Toronto game.
• 1:47:45
  I could see Toronto taking this by ten points and but only because they score fifty
• 1:47:51
  eight or sixty. All right. last one then.
• 1:47:54
  We'll let MJ go first for as a Hamilton fan for Hamilton at Montreal.
• 1:47:59
  We're gonna see you wearing a Montreal jersey next week.
• 1:48:02
  No, 'cause the Thai cats are winning.
• 1:48:05
  Okay. I like it. And I think that they've got a much better chance now,
• 1:48:09
  but I don't think that it's quite enough.
• 1:48:12
  I said that they will still lose some games even if Trey plays well.
• 1:48:15
  And I just I think Montreal unless they make some of the stupid coaching mistakes
• 1:48:20
  they did this week, they they will probably take this one.
• 1:48:23
  And again, I don't see it necessarily being all that high scoring.
• 1:48:27
  because of the defenses involved.
• 1:48:29
  How about you, GT?
• 1:48:30
  Yeah, I agree. It's gonna I think Montreal and I think it's gonna be
• 1:48:34
  a touchdown at least. and yeah,
• 1:48:36
  I think it's yeah. Montreal's just playing you know,
• 1:48:39
  they're playing well enough to beat anybody at this stage,
• 1:48:42
  pretty much.
• 1:48:44
  Yeah. But I don't I don't think that either team's gonna put up a lot.
• 1:48:47
  I if the overunder was fifty in this game I'd take under.
• 1:48:50
  I don't think it's gonna be a
• 1:48:50
  I don't know. It's
• 1:48:52
  like Alexander Philpot versus like Ford Lawler.
• 1:48:56
  Yeah. Well and
• 1:48:58
  and if if Ford starts getting some of some of that chemistry going with with Smith
• 1:49:03
  that bow had earlier this year,
• 1:49:04
  then like I said, I dun
• 1:49:05
  He'll actually get
• 1:49:06
  to practice with the team this week,
• 1:49:08
  so you know. Like he did that without any practice.
• 1:49:09
  Yes.
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  It's gonna be great.
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  Yeah. And I mean
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  if they'd stuck with Dolagala,
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  this wouldn't even be a question.
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  At least now it's a question. Yeah.
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  No, absolutely not. No, absolutely not.
• 1:49:19
  ~
• 1:49:19
  but you know, you just said MJ,
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  it's Ford versus Alexander. who would you rather have?
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  Who would you rather have? Yeah.
• 1:49:27
  You don't want me to answer that.
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  I would
• 1:49:29
  ~ go ahead. Come on.
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  ~ okay. Well, Ford has a hamstring that doesn't wreck,
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  Okay.
• 1:49:37
  so I'm
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  there is that. And one can never rule out the dazzling factor.
• 1:49:44
  You never
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  know, you never know. It's hard to scheme for him.
• 1:49:46
  Yeah. Yep.
• 1:49:47
  It's hard to scheme for him.
• 1:49:48
  no, I
• 1:49:48
  no I think it's as I said, I think I think it's ~ they they have a shot in
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  a lot of games. I just don't think they have a shot in this game.
• 1:49:56
  I just think Montreal's just playing that much better.
• 1:49:58
  think
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  I guess but Calgary almost beat them twice and Elks almost like took them
• 1:50:03
  to OT and I just you know what,
• 1:50:05
  there's a lot of parity even if people are missing some key players,
• 1:50:08
  Yeah.
• 1:50:08
  I'm picking underdogs this week and it's gonna be how it's gonna be.
• 1:50:10
  Yeah. Yeah. And
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  it's yeah. The other the other thing I think that plays into this a lot
• 1:50:17
  is the fact that Ford did look good this weekend.
• 1:50:20
  He's got experience but not a lot.
• 1:50:22
  I don't think he's started a full eighteen games of football,
• 1:50:24
  and he's going up against that Noel Thorpe defense that you just never know what
• 1:50:29
  it's gonna look like. So
• 1:50:31
  That's another reason that I don't see them being able to take it.
• 1:50:33
  Now you never know. The thing with Thorpe's defense is he does sometimes
• 1:50:38
  he makes it confusing by playing players out of position.
• 1:50:41
  And will Ford take advantage of that if he suddenly scrambles
• 1:50:45
  and gets running downfield and you know,
• 1:50:47
  it's but I I wouldn't be surprised to see Hamilton win it,
• 1:50:51
  but I think the safe bet is Montreal,
• 1:50:53
  which is why I've gone that way.
• 1:50:54
  Let's close her off here.
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  Well, what am I gonna do with all my time now that World Cup is over
• 1:50:59
  and the Blue Jays are terrible?
• 1:51:01
  I will be ~ watching football.
• 1:51:03
  Find me on Instagram, find me on Blue Sky at Sports and Plants.
• 1:51:08
  Thank
• 1:51:08
  you much. GT
• 1:51:10
  And I will be watching football as well.
• 1:51:12
  In fact I hope to be watching football while the games are on rather than
• 1:51:16
  on tape delay again. So yes, I'm getting that's what I'm getting really tired of,
• 1:51:17
  Yeah.
• 1:51:20
  MJ. I'm just watching too much tape delay.
• 1:51:23
  So anyways, yes, you can also find me occasionally at at on Blue Sky at GT Barnum.
• 1:51:30
  Okay. And I will I do tape delay on all games I watch starting about half an hour,
• 1:51:35
  45 minutes late because then I can zip through the commercials and
• 1:51:38
  the the halftime stuff that I'm not interested in.
• 1:51:41
  But I will be probably recording all five TSN channels every game just fool me once,
• 1:51:46
  you know, and then they've got me twice now.
• 1:51:48
  Other than that, yeah, not a lot to say.
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