Latest / Best of Business / Catherine McGrath: Westpac CEO on the bank bracing for a tougher economic climate
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- 0:16Speaker 2: Westpac says the Iran conflict is already affecting our spending.
- 0:20Speaker 2: The bank's net profit for the six months to March
- 0:22Speaker 2: is down nineteen percent on the previous six months. Katherine
- 0:25Speaker 2: McGrath is the Westpac end Z's CEO.
- 0:27Speaker 3: Hi Catherine, Hi, Heather, thanks for having me on.
- 0:30Speaker 2: You're more than welcome. What are you seeing in terms
- 0:32Speaker 2: of spending read the Iran war.
- 0:35Speaker 3: So what we're seeing is consumers are starting to make
- 0:38Speaker 3: quite sensible decisions and when they're seeing that their fuel
- 0:41Speaker 3: prices are going up, they're just slightly adjusting their spending
- 0:45Speaker 3: in other areas. So we're just making those typical key,
- 0:48Speaker 3: we small adjustments to help us to be resilient for
- 0:51Speaker 3: uncertain times ahead. In what way, So there's a little
- 0:56Speaker 3: bit of less money being spent on things like hospitality
- 1:00Speaker 3: and retail spend With businesses, some of them are pausing
- 1:04Speaker 3: a bit on whether they want to do their expansion plans,
- 1:07Speaker 3: but others who an opportunity at the moment, they are
- 1:10Speaker 3: keen to continue forging ahead. So a different mix depending
- 1:14Speaker 3: on how impacted you are.
- 1:15Speaker 2: Right, So people are managing their way through it. But
- 1:17Speaker 2: are you seeing any people who are already in big trouble.
- 1:23Speaker 3: No, we're not seeing that coming through in our numbers. Yet.
- 1:29Speaker 3: We can see that the economic forecasts are starting to
- 1:31Speaker 3: soften in terms of the New Zealand economy, and that
- 1:34Speaker 3: will get tougher the longer that this goes on. But
- 1:38Speaker 3: particularly with our business customers, they've had to deal with
- 1:41Speaker 3: a lot, particularly with tariffs over the last year or so,
- 1:44Speaker 3: and so they've got really good at looking at what
- 1:46Speaker 3: are the things that they can control and what are
- 1:48Speaker 3: the sensible adjustments that they can make.
- 1:51Speaker 2: Okay, on your profit, how do you explain the nineteen
- 1:54Speaker 2: percent dropping the net profit.
- 1:57Speaker 3: So there's a couple of things that's driven that over
- 2:00Speaker 3: the past six months. One is we've increased our provisions
- 2:05Speaker 3: taking into account that deterioration and the economic forecasts moving forward.
- 2:10Speaker 3: And then the other thing that's had a bit of
- 2:11Speaker 3: an impact that there's been good stiff competition in the
- 2:15Speaker 3: New Zealand market, so our margins are down a bit
- 2:18Speaker 3: and also as the interest rates went down, that means
- 2:21Speaker 3: more of our deposits we don't pass. We don't pass
- 2:24Speaker 3: all of that through.
- 2:25Speaker 2: I see, okay, I see that. You guys say that
- 2:27Speaker 2: you're grown faster than the market and some of the
- 2:29Speaker 2: SME lending. Why is that?
- 2:32Speaker 3: So? It's been great to outperform the market and SME
- 2:35Speaker 3: and medium sized business lending, and that's been because our
- 2:39Speaker 3: bankers have been out talking to their customers. That's been
- 2:41Speaker 3: up more than twenty five percent versus the period before,
- 2:45Speaker 3: and that's been all about talking to them to understand
- 2:47Speaker 3: how we can best help and support them.
- 2:50Speaker 2: Now, what do you expect is going to happen with
- 2:52Speaker 2: the economy if you're looking at the situation right now,
- 2:54Speaker 2: we've got around firing things at the UAE, got Trump
- 2:57Speaker 2: with all of his bluster. What do you think? What
- 3:00Speaker 2: are you guys predicting for the economy for New Zealand.
- 3:04Speaker 3: So leave the particular predictions for our chief economists to
- 3:08Speaker 3: come out within a couple of weeks because he's far
- 3:10Speaker 3: more skilled at that than I am. And I think
- 3:12Speaker 3: what's tricky for all of us is that almost day
- 3:16Speaker 3: by day, your expectation of what might happen changes, and
- 3:19Speaker 3: you can feel optimistic one day and they're not so optimistic.
- 3:23Speaker 3: The next day. But we do think it will have
- 3:25Speaker 3: a more prolonged impact on the economy the longer that
- 3:29Speaker 3: it goes on. But what was great we were seeing
- 3:32Speaker 3: that recovery before the war happened, and so hopefully once
- 3:36Speaker 3: we get through this, we'll see the economy start to
- 3:38Speaker 3: pick up again.
- 3:39Speaker 2: And Tony remain Ed was on the other day with us,
- 3:41Speaker 2: and she said she thinks this is more of a
- 3:43Speaker 2: twenty seven growth story than any time this year, given
- 3:45Speaker 2: that we've only got about seven or eight months in
- 3:47Speaker 2: the year left. What do you think.
- 3:50Speaker 3: I think that's pretty fair because the longer this goes on,
- 3:53Speaker 3: the more likely it is to impact this financial year.
- 3:58Speaker 3: But you know, who knows. We could get good news
- 4:01Speaker 3: at some point, but I think it's very hard to call.
- 4:05Speaker 2: And are you picking the first o CR hike in September.
- 4:08Speaker 3: Then yes, the economist team, our economists are currently saying
- 4:13Speaker 3: that we'll get three between September and December. But again
- 4:17Speaker 3: back too hard to call things and they'll be putting
- 4:20Speaker 3: more forecasts out in a couple of weeks.
- 4:23Speaker 2: Okay, Catherine, thank you as always for your time. That's
- 4:25Speaker 2: Katherine McGrath, Westpac end said.
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