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Ep.29: The price of a superstar · Football Junkies podcast

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  Bag alert, bag alert, bag alert, bag alert, bag alert folks that's right I called it,
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  I called it, no one else called it, I called it.
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  I was the one that said on the last episode that guess what there's a good chance that
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  we were going to have a bag alert and something was going to happen and just when I was editing,
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  just when I was gearing put out this episode this morning, guess what happens?
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  CD lamb gets paid, called it greatest football podcast in the world.
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  It's all I got to say, all right, but we have to get into all of these things.
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  Okay, CD lamb gets paid.
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  Of course, we do have to ask because we always have to with with anytime we have a bag alert,
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  does this affect Jamar Chase and brand are you a situation?
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  If it does cool, if it doesn't don't really care about it.
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  Malik Willis finally gets a fresh start a new opportunity.
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  I'm so happy for him to get it as well as the Texans in the Broncos are sellers.
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  We got a lot to talk about folks, a lot to talk about.
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  We are one episode away from 30 episodes, one episode away from 30 episodes.
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  I don't know if you guys realize this, but that is a major milestone, major milestone.
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  Guess what we have all of this to talk about and more on the 29th episode of the football
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  junkies podcast.
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  I'm your host, Bagrod Thomas, two time Bagrod Thomas.
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  Okay, I am your chief head of the table, chief bag meteorologist.
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  Okay, I am your GM who currently is not on a team right now, but my predictions have
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  come to pass and they will continue to come to pass because I am Bagrod Thomas.
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  But most importantly, the most important title, I am your host, Kale.
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  You already know what I'm getting ready to say.
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  Let's lock you.
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  All right, folks, let's just get into everything.
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  All right, we're not going to stall.
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  We are not going to waste any more time.
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  Okay, let's get into everything.
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  We're going to try to keep this episode as short, sweet and to the point.
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  Okay, that is the goal in this episode and future episodes.
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  Okay, because we've been putting out a lot of long episodes lately and we just want to
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  try to try to bring things back just a little bit.
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  But hey, you know, when you have a lot of things happening, you know, you got to talk
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  about it because why we are the football junkies podcast.
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  We are the hub.
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  We are the place to go with all things related to football, not to mention college football
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  also starts this week.
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  So we also have to talk about that as well.
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  Man, man, oh man, this is going to be busy, busy, busy.
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  All right, let's get into it.
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  So CD Land receiving for the Dallas Cowboys into a four year 136 mega deal.
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  Okay, he gets 38, he gets a $38 million signing bonus, 100 million in total guarantees, and
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  he will be making 34 million a year.
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  Okay, now let's go over just a few notes and whatnot.
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  So this is the largest signing bonus for receiver, 38 million, and he is second behind Justin
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  Jefferson in a wide receiver guarantees at 100 million.
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  Now when we look at his stats, you know, for last season, he had 135 receptions, 1,749 yards,
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  12 touchdowns, and he averaged 13 yards of play according to ESPN.
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  It's the coffee, it's definitely the coffee.
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  Now more notes, right, before we get into everything that we need to get into.
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  He's had three 1000 yard seasons straight, 2021, 2022, and 2023.
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  He was the most productive receiver against man coverage with 70 targets for 49 receptions
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  and 794 yards.
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  That is 132 more yards than any receiver in the league.
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  Not to me.
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  He gained 894 yards from the slot and 829 yards when lined up outside according to NFL
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  Pro.
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  So when we look at it here, the Cowboys were definitely in a situation where they definitely
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  needed to pay CDLAM and they realized that because there is no other receiver that is
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  as productive as CDLAM.
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  And you know, when you're talking about somebody who has that inside outside versatility and
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  the way that they use CDLAM, you better pay him.
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  You better pay him because you don't have anybody else that can do the things that he
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  do.
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  It'll be different if they still had Michael Gallup and they still had a Marnie Cooper
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  in company, then it opens up to a different conversation.
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  But you know, when it's literally just CDLAM, you have to pay him.
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  This is the price that you pay for having a superstar receiver.
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  This is the price.
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  And you know what?
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  That might actually be the title.
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  See?
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  Come on, man.
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  Best podcast in the world.
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  Come on now.
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  Now, when we go a little bit deeper in this, I've definitely looked at the stacks and you
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  know, shout out to Corey, one of the members of the Not That Serious podcast.
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  You guys can find them on YouTube or Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you guys listen
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  to podcasts as well.
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  We've definitely been going back and forth about this.
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  And I didn't realize it until I actually looked at the stats.
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  CDLAM has been lined up in the slot a lot.
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  So essentially, what it looks like to me is they just reset at the slot receiver market.
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  Wow.
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  I don't...
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  I don't...
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  I don't know how to feel about this, folks.
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  This is a weird...
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  This is a weird situation because granted, the times that I have seen Cowboys games, I've
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  always seen CDLAM where?
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  Lined up on the outside.
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  I've never really seen him lined up on the slot.
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  But you know, the stats don't lie.
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  Stats do not lie.
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  So maybe I'm going to have to look at more CDLAM footage.
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  I probably will or something.
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  But geez, I did not expect this.
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  I did not.
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  I did not expect this.
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  I was...
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  I was befuddled again.
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  Be fuddled.
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  But did you know what?
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  It's fine.
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  It's fine.
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  Now, with all of this and whatnot, I think it does open up somewhat of a secondary conversation
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  of that everybody immediately asks, as soon as someone like a CDLAM gets paid the type
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  of money that he gets paid, does this affect other receivers that are looking for deals?
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  And you have to look at it from a situational basis.
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  You can't just group everybody into the same decision.
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  When you look at it for Jermara Chase's case, I think it definitely ups up the ante for
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  them because now Jermara Chase has more money that he could dictate and say, hey, listen,
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  he's the second highest paid.
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  I'm close to him.
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  I may be better than him in certain aspects on the field, but he just got close.
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  I'm trying to get as close as I can to him or at least try to get in the middle between
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  him and Justin Jefferson, one of the two.
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  So I mean, in that type of situation, it's definitely going to have major ramifications
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  for Jermara Chase moving forward because if Jermara Chase has a better season than CDLAM
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  and his stats are like literally neck and neck with Justin Jefferson, that opens up
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  the floodgates.
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  That changes everything.
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  That means that whatever agreements that they had in place are basically scrapped at that
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  point.
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  You're basically starting from step one and trying to do the whole process all over again.
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  Now, when you look at the free age or receiver market, there's going to be a lot of notable
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  names that are going to be available such as Deontay Johnson, Stefan Diggs, Kenan Allen,
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  and Company.
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  So you have that mixed with T. Higgins, Hollywood Brown, Odo Beckham Jr., whatnot.
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  So it's a good thing for the receiver market, but it's also a bad thing because now you're
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  going to have players who, if they have better seasons than what they're supposed to have,
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  well, no, let me rephrase it.
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  If they have like a crazy season statistically speaking, that could jack up the price even
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  more for receivers.
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  And granted, we have seen now that the league has accepted the receiver market now in values
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  than more simply because you're seeing more people getting paid as a receiver.
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  I could probably make a strong case that this offseason alone, this has probably been the
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  most, not only friction, but the most, well, no, not baggolards.
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  I don't know.
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  I'm drawing a blank.
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  This is probably the one offseason where I have seen multiple, multiple receivers get
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  paid 30, 35, almost close to $40 million.
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  I would not be surprised, and this is a baggoladamus prediction.
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  You're hearing it here first on the Football Junkies podcast.
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  I would not be surprised if somebody creses the $40 million mark within the next three
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  years.
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  I would not be surprised.
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  I'm just going to say that I'm going to get the first.
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  Simply because, you know, receivers now are valued because not only of the skill set that
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  they bring, but like how much influence they also have on an offense.
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  Like we're seeing it now that in order for a team to be successful, they have to have
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  a number one receiver.
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  They have to have, you know, an elite quarterback.
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  They have to have, you know, an elite pass rusher and elite offensive linemen and whatnot.
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  So when you have that mixed with, you know, college football is basically a receiver factory
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  and you're basically getting, you know, NFL caliber receiver, multiple NFL caliber receivers
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  every staff, regardless if it's an offensive draft or defensive draft, the prices is going
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  to continue to go up, right?
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  And that's not even counting when people like Marvin Harrison, Jr., you know, becomes available
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  to, you know, to start doing contracts and whatnot, it's only going to continue to go
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  up.
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  It really is.
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  So, you know, congratulations to CDLAM.
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  Now moving on to Malik Willis.
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  Okay.
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  So former, former Titans quarterback Malik Willis was traded yesterday to the Packers.
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  So the Packers of course received Malik Willis and the Titans are receiving a 2025 seventh
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  round pick.
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  Now when we look at it, this was definitely a move that was definitely needed simply because
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  Malik Willis really didn't have a chance, you know, when being drafted to the Titans,
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  right?
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  Instantly, you know, they started to favor, you know, Will Leviss and really started to
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  give him a chance and everybody knew that Malik Willis coming out of Liberty that year,
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  he was a raw prospect.
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  He was, he still had a lot of things that he had to work on.
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  He had to work on his mechanics, had to work on play calling, had to work on his execution,
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  all those different types of things.
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  But the, but the skill set is there.
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  He just had to work on the basics and whatnot.
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  So you know, the Titans, the Titans are going through a lot of change and a lot of, you
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  know, turnover from the last regime to now, right?
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  And so this is, you know, expected when you do have a new GM, they're going to clean house,
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  they're going to get rid of a lot of the older, you know, a lot of the players that, you know,
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  they feel like, you know, should probably go somewhere else and probably won't be on
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  this team, they're going to get rid of them.
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  And this is, you know, and this is what happens.
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  So I think him going to the Packers is probably a great situation.
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  You're on a young team.
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  You know, you get to sit behind Jordan Love and, you know, you probably get to get coached
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  by someone like Matt LaFleur.
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  So all in all, I think it's a great situation for him.
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  You know, it's, it's nothing, it's nothing where it's like, oh, he was trash, he was
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  this, that, you know, look at it.
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  Will Levis show, showed a lot of upside, you know, during this past season and, you know,
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  they got me screwed off.
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  So you have those two quarterbacks right there.
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  And you know, Malik Willis is basically ass out.
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  That that's, that's just what it is.
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  That is what happened.
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  That is what happens when it comes to football.
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  This is the side of football and not a lot of people talk about, but this is what happens.
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  But even then it gives him a chance to possibly maybe start in a game or two.
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  You know, if Jordan Love, you know, for some apparent reason gets hurt or anything crazy
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  like that.
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  So it's definitely a good situation for him.
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  Now on to another topic that we need to talk about.
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  Actually, you know, is that going to be the final topic?
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  Oh, wow, we are breezing through this thing.
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  See, I'm telling you guys, we're keeping things light.
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  We're keeping things in a good enough timeframe for everybody to listen to.
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  We're not trying to do this long and drawn out because I know we've been doing a lot
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  of longer drawn out episodes lately.
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  So I definitely want to just keep things fresh and keep things light.
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  And at the same time, you know, talking things we need to talk about and whatnot and just
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  keep pushing.
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  Now I will say this while I am recording, a lot of things are happening, you know, in
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  the league because it is cut down and basically teams have until four, I think it is four
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  o'clock this afternoon to, you know, cut the rosters down.
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  So you have people like Teris Marshall Jr. that got cut Desmond Ritter, James Pierre,
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  CJ, um, Bethard, you have Adrian Amos, you have what's to do is name CJ Henderson, he
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  got cut.
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  Um, who else?
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  Who else?
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  Who else?
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  And then Robinson, Miles Boykin, Caleb Farley.
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  So you have a lot of movement that is happening.
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  As we speak right now, as I am recording this right now, a lot of things are happening
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  and a lot of it is because, you know, teams are, you know, making their roster cuts and
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  whatnot.
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  But, you know, I will say this, this is what I will say.
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  What's one man's trash is another man's treasure, right?
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  And the reason why I say that is because a lot of times, you know, some of these players,
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  they, you know, they'll come back on the same team that they were cut from.
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  They'll probably just join the practice squad or whatever.
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  They'll probably just wait for another opportunity depending on where you are in your NFL career.
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  Right.
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  For instance, like Alan Robinson, right?
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  Alan Robinson is an 11 year veteran, right?
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  So technically speaking, you know, he could probably go and wait, you know, for another
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  opportunity to arise, right?
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  Compared to someone like a Miles Boykin where you're mainly used for special teams, you
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  know, and you may not, you'll probably get some traction, but you probably won't get
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  a whole lot of traction, right?
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  And then you even have, you know, former first round picks, Caleb Farley and CJ Henderson,
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  who, you know, they have not lived up to the expectations that a lot of people had for
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  them.
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  And, you know, they just, you know, they just had to get cut, especially for Caleb Farley.
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  Caleb Farley definitely, definitely was someone that I definitely was interested in, you know,
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  when he was coming out of Virginia Tech, but he just hasn't been able to do it.
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  Now, a lot of that is because, you know, he's had, I think he had a back injury one year
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  and then he has like asthma that's supposed to be like really bad, like just a whole bunch
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  of stuff.
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  And you know what?
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  It happens.
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  It does.
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  And then later, it's going to have this successful career.
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  It's not going to get, you know, the big paycheck, but, you know, this is the business side of
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  football that not a lot of people talk about and not a lot of people like because, you
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  know, it definitely, it's a lot.
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  It definitely is a lot.
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  And I talked about it, you know, in the last episode, but, you know, this, this is a time
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  where, you know, it's, there's a lot of tension because you don't know if you're going to
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  get traded, if you're going to get cut, if you're going to be able to return to the practice
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  squad and whatnot.
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  And that takes a lot, especially when you have given your all in training camp, you've
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  given your all into the preseason and you feel like you've, you know, you've done enough
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  to be, to be like, okay, I, you know, I have a roster spot here.
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  And you know, they'll come up to you and say, Hey, you know, we, we think you did a great
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  job, but you know, we don't think this is probably the best opportunity for you.
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  And they cut you.
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  And that's a tough thing to take because now you have to figure out, you know, what are
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  you going to do moving forward?
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  And you know, it's not like there's a robust of opportunities on these teams.
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  It's very competitive outside of the star players and whatnot.
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  The rest of the roster spots are very competitive.
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  They are, you know, here today gone tomorrow type of situations.
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  If you get hurt and the injury is, is a significant, most likely they'll have your replacement
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  already on the plane, you know, ready, ready to sign a one year deal.
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  That's just the, the brutal side of it that, you know, not a lot of people talk about.
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  And you know, sometimes as fans, they, they try to turn it into a joke or whatnot.
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  When it's like, no, this is people's livelihood.
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  We're talking about this is, you know, a lot of these players are the, the primary care
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  taker for not only themselves, but for their families and whatnot.
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  So a lot rise on this type of stuff.
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  Now onto the final topic, a lot, you know, with everything that's going on and whatnot
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  cuts and trades and, you know, all those various different, different types of things.
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  We do have to talk about two teams that have definitely started to become sellers.
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  And that is the Broncos and the Texans.
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  So apparently a lot of teams have inquired with the Texans about, about, you know, receivers
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  such as John Mechie and other receivers that may be at the bottom part of their, you know,
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  of their receiver roster.
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  So as well as, you know, the Broncos teams are calling about Tim Patrick because Tim Patrick
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  actually looks very promising.
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  This is probably the best we've seen Tim Patrick since, since his arrival into the lead.
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  And granted, the only problem with, with Tim Patrick, I think that makes me very wary
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  about him is because of his extensive injury history.
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  Like he literally had two season, two season ending injuries back to back.
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  Right.
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  And he's just been, I want to say a glasshouse, but he just hasn't been able to stay healthy.
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  And in a league where, you know, availability is the best ability, you have to stay somewhat
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  healthy.
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  And granted, you know, in the preseason, he was looking phenomenal.
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  He's making the catches.
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  He was creating separation.
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  He was doing all those different types of things, but it's like, bro, if you just stay
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  healthy just one season, one season, I guarantee you somebody will definitely give you a chance.
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  But I do think someone like John Mechie, I think that's a very unique trade to go for
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  because one, he's still on his rookie deal.
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  So you don't have to worry about, you know, oh, this is going to be a large cap pay.
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  Do we have to do a restructure?
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  You don't have to worry about that.
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  You, the, the trade for him is relatively easy to make because you don't have to give
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  up, you know, a first round pick, a second round pick or a third round pick.
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  You could probably give them a conditional fifth that can turn into a fourth round pick
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  for John Mechie.
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  John Mechie is a deep threat who can, you know, play in the slot, play on the outside,
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  play with route runner and, you know, someone who he's, you know, his goal is to score.
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  That's who John Mechie is.
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  And, you know, John Mechie was, was talked about very highly, you know, definitely when
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  he was coming out of Alabama and he was definitely someone that I definitely, you know, really
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  wanted honestly.
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  Like I really wanted John Mechie.
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  So would I be surprised if, you know, if either one of them gets traded?
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  No, I wouldn't.
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  Even Robert Woods.
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  Robert Woods is even getting some traction as well, simply because he's a great blocking
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  receiver.
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  He's probably one of the best blocking receivers, right?
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  So you have that on top of, you know, he was on that, that Rams championship team.
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  So teams may try to, you know, may try to get that as well for that championship type
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  of pedigree player and whatnot.
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  So it's a lot of things that are happening.
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  And you know, with this much movement, I would not be surprised if the trade deadline is just
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  like this or even, or even worse.
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  Anyway, not a good worse, not a bad worse.
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  And the reason why I say that is because teams are trying to win now.
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  Okay.
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  You still, you have teams like the Ravens, like the 49ers, who else liked the chiefs
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  and company like the Eagles who are trying to win now.
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  And if there is a player that they feel like that, if they get that play that they're going
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  to be an instant impact and that can, and that can probably take them to the next level,
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  they are going to get them.
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  They are going to move heaven and earth to get them.
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  Now the only problem is for teams like the 49ers, they're in the, the pressure is really
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  mounted on them this year because they, they have a, they don't have a whole lot of, you
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  know, leverage.
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  They don't have a whole lot of time with their situation because they are going to be over,
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  I think $39 million over the cap next year.
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  Not to mention, not to mention, right?
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  You have the holdout with both Brandon and Trent Williams and on top of that, I keep
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  my saying Brandon and you and Brock, is, is up for a deal next year.
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  And you know, if, if the 49ers went in all this year, that's $60 million that's going
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  to Brock, as I've said before, episodes.
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  So you know, they have, this is the year that they have to win it.
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  I don't think there is another two or three years where they can continue to roll with
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  the roster that they have and you know, probably try to stay competitive.
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  I just don't, I think they've, I think they've been trying to mortgage a championship for
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  the past few years and have been unsuccessful.
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  A lot of that has been, you know, has been because of their own fault when it comes to
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  coaching and, you know, various different things.
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  But the fact of the matter is folks, it's going to be active.
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  This is going to, this is, this is my prediction.
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  This is my prediction.
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  I didn't hear this from anybody else.
• 24:10
  I don't have any sources or anything, but this is my prediction.
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  I do believe this is going to go down in history as one of the most active trade deadlines
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  this year.
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  Multiple top notch players are going to get moved.
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  They are going to be put in better situations.
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  You have people like JC Horn, Marshawn Latimer, that's not getting talked about a whole lot,
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  Savante Adams, Hassan Reddick and company who are going to want out of their situation
• 24:37
  and who are going to want to be in, who are going to be going to be put in better situations.
• 24:43
  So you have that mixed with, you know, teams, teams are more, are more likely to give up
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  high draft compensation just so they can be able to, you know, to sweeten up the deal.
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  Of course, if it means that they can win the championship, okay, they'll throw away first
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  run pick.
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  They won't think twice about it.
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  That's just, that's just the mentality that GMs are having now.
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  You're seeing more GMs who have become somewhat gunslingers when it comes to trades who are
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  pulling the trigger, not thinking twice about it, who are, you know, not really thinking
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  about the repercussions and whatnot, not trying to be reserved.
• 25:20
  They are trying to put, they are trying to assemble the best team that they possibly
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  can and it shows.
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  And as always, I'll give you guys the fix that you guys need best believe there's going
• 26:45
  to be more news is going to be more friction within the coming hours would probably within
• 26:50
  the next few days or whatnot.
• 26:52
  I would not be surprised if some more bombshells drop within the next 48 to 72 hours.
• 27:01
  I would not be surprised, but you know, when it happens, we will be the first to talk about
• 27:06
  it, discuss it and give our opinions about it.
• 27:10
  So I will say later for now, okay, because there's still going to be some things are
• 27:16
  going to be happening.
• 27:17
  Tell you bad road, diamonds, bad road, diamonds.
• 27:20
  Come on now.
• 27:21
  Bad road, diamonds keeps on saying it now.
• 27:23
  The only thing that hasn't been coming to fruition is brand new.
• 27:26
  Hopefully maybe that maybe it happens while I'm at it.
• 27:29
  Who knows?
• 27:30
  Who knows?
• 27:31
  But as always, I love you guys.
• 27:33
  I appreciate you guys so much.
• 27:34
  We are almost at 30 episodes and I am so excited and I appreciate you guys so much.
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• 27:40
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