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#674 - Bill Bellamy Talks MTV Era, R. Kelly, Tupac vs. Biggie, Comedy Stand Up, Tony Hinchcliffe & More · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: Yo, Bootlet keV Podcast, boot Let keV Show. We got
• 0:06
  Speaker 1: a special guest in here, my got Bill Bellamy. Yes, welcome,
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. keV.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, I've done a couple of podcasts, man,
• 0:13
  Speaker 2: I never I never done a podcast that felt dangerous.
• 0:17
  Speaker 2: That means like I'm just saying like it felt.
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 0:19
  Speaker 2: Like coming to Bilg, I was like, I was like,
• 0:22
  Speaker 2: I hope keV in there, cav.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody pulls up there like, yo, is this the
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: right place?
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  Speaker 2: Yo?
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  Speaker 1: Yo? keV?
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  Speaker 2: You got yeah, yeah, yeah, my man to come out
• 0:29
  Speaker 2: get you just tucking roll?
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  Speaker 1: Oh man, what's been going on?
• 0:33
  Speaker 2: Man?
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  Speaker 1: I know you got the comedy tour that you're kicking
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: off this week.
• 0:36
  Speaker 2: Just said, yeah, yeah, yeah, We're kicking off of San
• 0:38
  Speaker 2: Diego down at the Mic Drop, which is one of
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: my favorite clubs. It's only about five or six of
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: them in the country, and uh, they just do it right,
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  Speaker 2: like they pack in the spot. People come in from
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: all the different cities. You know, Diego got all the
• 0:54
  Speaker 2: little you know, suburbs and this, that and the other.
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  Speaker 2: So I look forward to doing that and then you know,
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  Speaker 2: the next week Nashville and Baltimore.
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: I just start rolling. Yeah, you have had so many
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  Speaker 1: different errors of your career that were all historical in
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  Speaker 1: their own right. Thank you early MTV days. When did
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  Speaker 1: you first get hired by MTV?
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  Speaker 2: I got hired in ninety two, going like ninety one,
• 1:15
  Speaker 2: the end of ninety one going into ninety two. I
• 1:18
  Speaker 2: got like a thirteen week trial because back then they
• 1:21
  Speaker 2: were auditioning people to be vj's.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they who wants to be a VJ? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: It was like for people that are young right now
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  Speaker 2: that don't know what that is. It was called the
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  Speaker 2: video jockey because we used to promote music videos back
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  Speaker 2: in the day. And so I was like, damn, man,
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  Speaker 2: I got this audition in New York.
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  Speaker 1: I'll go out.
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  Speaker 2: That was a showcase. They saw me Tracy Jordan, who
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna give her a shot out. She was the
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  Speaker 2: one that did the showcase for new talent, and she
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  Speaker 2: just gave me that thirteen week trial and I won
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  Speaker 2: the job.
• 1:57
  Speaker 1: Were you a part of the spring Break with Biggie
• 2:01
  Speaker 1: Smalls in Lake Havasu? Yeah? I was there. You were there?
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  Speaker 2: Do you remember? You know there's a funny story that no,
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  Speaker 2: So this is my first time in Lake Havasu. This
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  Speaker 2: is this is called white boy fun because it is
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  Speaker 2: just white people boats tied together, drunk, having the most
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  Speaker 2: fun of their life, like drinking, going from.
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  Speaker 1: Boat to boat.
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  Speaker 2: Your girls are pulling their tops off. This is the
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  Speaker 2: most fun I've ever had on a green lake because
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  Speaker 2: the water was green to me, right, like gatorade.
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  Speaker 1: Right. It's definitely no white trash spring break spot right, right.
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  Speaker 2: But it was so fun. And you brought up what
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  Speaker 2: made you bring up Biggie?
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  Speaker 1: Because because I just remember, I'm from Arizona. You remember
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  Speaker 1: when I was a kid there. I was like, damn,
• 2:48
  Speaker 1: they brought Biggie of Arizona. I mean obviously Lake Havasu
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  Speaker 1: is nowhere near Phoenix, but it was just kind of cool.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And he couldn't swim. And I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: you go when you when you when you see this
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  Speaker 2: now that I said it, go watch it on YouTube.
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  Speaker 2: We were on these pods in the water and Biggie,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know, Biggie had a fear of water. He
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  Speaker 2: couldn't swim, and so we're standing there Big. It was
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  Speaker 2: like little little hubble pub but sleep.
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  Speaker 1: Drowned.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, Big, it's like a barge like it's not
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  Speaker 2: going he was dated to get him on. It was crazy,
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  Speaker 2: like he was literally like spasing.
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  Speaker 1: I can imagine he's a bigger guy, and he's.
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  Speaker 2: Big, he's thinking, you know, it's gonna tip over or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: But they actually got him in a little season on there,
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  Speaker 2: and they actually performed in the boats for a round.
• 3:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember, Oh, were you probably
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  Speaker 2: like fifteen?
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm seven. I was probably like eight.
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  Speaker 2: You wasn't out there drinking?
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, I remember watching it on TV. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: hell yeah it was. It was epic. No, it was
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  Speaker 1: definitely epic. Man. You were like a part of so
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  Speaker 1: much of that era of hip hop. Like you were
• 3:54
  Speaker 1: in a Tupac video for Temptations, right, I was in Temptations.
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  Speaker 1: Do you like did you did you ever get any
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  Speaker 1: like like being an MTV at that time, was there
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  Speaker 1: ever any of the Tupac Biggie East Coast, West Coast
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  Speaker 1: stuff that came across your peripheral like.
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  Speaker 2: Man, of course, of course. Man, So let me give
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  Speaker 2: you a recap. So MTV at this time is the
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  Speaker 2: only place to blow up if you're an artist. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you going there, You're gonna start selling records. You're gonna
• 4:24
  Speaker 2: go on summer tour, You're gonna take off, right, and
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  Speaker 2: so at that time I.
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  Speaker 1: Was getting everybody. It didn't matter.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the East Coast West Coast Beef thing came
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  Speaker 2: out of nowhere like it was everything was good, good,
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  Speaker 2: and then it was like whoa the source after the
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  Speaker 2: source of Wars it got we That's when it got like, it's.
• 4:41
  Speaker 1: A problem with the Snoop Dogg speech.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah it was, Yeah, it was a problem. So what
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  Speaker 2: when when I knew, when I knew this was going
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  Speaker 2: to go all the way nuclear was, I got back
• 4:54
  Speaker 2: then they used to send me music CDs and you
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  Speaker 2: know I would get the early releases. Yeah, I got
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  Speaker 2: the early release and hit.
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  Speaker 1: Him up.
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  Speaker 2: The remix. There was four different versions that hit him
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  Speaker 2: up on the CD. And I had a real nice
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  Speaker 2: sound system in my green room. I could the first
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  Speaker 2: the first bar. I had to turn it down because
• 5:16
  Speaker 2: he was cursing so bad. Hey, that's why I fucked you?
• 5:20
  Speaker 2: What turn that down? I was like, what is going on?
• 5:23
  Speaker 2: I'm listening good?
• 5:24
  Speaker 1: You good?
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  Speaker 2: Beside? When we rut, I'm like, oh my god, I said, no,
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  Speaker 2: it's over, It's over. Yeah, I knew right then. I
• 5:32
  Speaker 2: just knew it was gonna be over. And so then
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  Speaker 2: for me, what was really tough was knowing if I
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  Speaker 2: was gonna be good when I come out to the
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  Speaker 2: West Coast, because I was coming out here.
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  Speaker 1: A lot, and you were based in New York.
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  Speaker 2: I was based in New York, but I was coming
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  Speaker 2: out here interviewing Snoop. I came out here to interview
• 5:51
  Speaker 2: Doctor Dre for the album Me against the Uh it
• 5:56
  Speaker 2: was it all eyes on Me.
• 5:58
  Speaker 1: All Eyes on Me would have been that would have
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  Speaker 1: been the two.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a double, the double ced Eyes on Me.
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  Speaker 2: I came out here to interview Ice Cube, all this
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  Speaker 2: West Coast stuff that was popping off. I mean, and
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  Speaker 2: you gotta admit, at that time, the West was on
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  Speaker 2: fire fire. I mean even you know, we had Mac Tin,
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  Speaker 2: you had the West Side Connect thing cracking, you had
• 6:22
  Speaker 2: Nate Dog and and and Warren g a lot. It
• 6:25
  Speaker 2: was a lot, dazzing corrupt. So I was interviewing everyone,
• 6:30
  Speaker 2: but for whatever reason, I was kind of neutral New York. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know, but I'm saying I never had no beats
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  Speaker 2: where people was like, yo, b you can't come out here. Whatever.
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  Speaker 1: I was always good.
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  Speaker 2: But I just always felt like I hope this don't
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  Speaker 2: continue to go left because at that moment hip hop
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  Speaker 2: was blowing up. I didn't want what happened to happen
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  Speaker 2: actually right, you know?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, now what was Park like man on set? Like
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  Speaker 1: like like he had to be. It was like the coolest,
• 6:55
  Speaker 1: coolest dude.
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  Speaker 2: Down the earthcat very passionate, actually really fun, you know,
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  Speaker 2: got a great sense of humor, but like he had
• 7:03
  Speaker 2: a switch because I remember one time hanging out with
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  Speaker 2: tupacing New York and turning on the news and he
• 7:08
  Speaker 2: was shooting at some cops. I was like, yo, I
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  Speaker 2: was like, yo, he's bugging, Like I literally just saw
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  Speaker 2: you in the club, Yo, chilling with some chicks having
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  Speaker 2: a good time.
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  Speaker 1: Turn on the news. He's shooting out with two cops
• 7:21
  Speaker 1: and beat the cakes in Atlanta? Rightah, crazy?
• 7:25
  Speaker 2: I said, Oh my god, he living too loud for me.
• 7:28
  Speaker 1: No, that's crazy, man, It really happened. Was uh? Was
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  Speaker 1: that like New York era, like just the night life
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  Speaker 1: of like going out and like I'm sure bigs around,
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  Speaker 1: puffs around New York.
• 7:40
  Speaker 2: New York was on fire. You gotta think think about
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  Speaker 2: it like this. It was the first to first because
• 7:47
  Speaker 2: at this time hip hop was going mainstream. Ca Cats
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  Speaker 2: was selling platinum. You know, you was toopping out at
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  Speaker 2: gold for a minute. Sure, you know you had cats
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  Speaker 2: like Nas blowing up, you had the Fuji's blowing up,
• 8:00
  Speaker 2: you had Naughty by Nature blowing up. You know, I'll
• 8:03
  Speaker 2: give you Mike Tyson was a champion, world champion at
• 8:07
  Speaker 2: the time. So like you could go to a club
• 8:09
  Speaker 2: in New York and see Mike at the bar or
• 8:11
  Speaker 2: popping box, which is crazy, and I would see like
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  Speaker 2: I'd be in the club and see Puff and I
• 8:16
  Speaker 2: see Jay and m and you'll see like un it was.
• 8:19
  Speaker 2: It was just one of those things where it was
• 8:21
  Speaker 2: like camps, you know what I mean, because Cats had
• 8:25
  Speaker 2: you know, you got Murder inc. Then you got bad Boy,
• 8:29
  Speaker 2: you got Rockefeller. You know, that was that era. It
• 8:32
  Speaker 2: was actually kind of dope.
• 8:33
  Speaker 1: Did you ever go to the tunnel? Yeah, the tunnel.
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: The tunnel. Everyone always says the tunnel was like the
• 8:38
  Speaker 1: most legendary space, dangerous.
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  Speaker 2: It was everything the tunnel. You could. You could go
• 8:47
  Speaker 2: and meet the hottest qut from Brooklyn. You know, she
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  Speaker 2: caught the train to the club with her little girls
• 8:53
  Speaker 2: or some girls, some Jersey girls and came over to
• 8:55
  Speaker 2: New York. Or you could be at a table with
• 8:58
  Speaker 2: some drug deals like you know, and they and they
• 9:01
  Speaker 2: in a good mood, you know what I mean. Or
• 9:03
  Speaker 2: you'll see you'll be in the club and you'll see
• 9:05
  Speaker 2: somebody like you know, Craig mac or whoever. At that time,
• 9:08
  Speaker 2: everybody was moving around. It was really dope. Or you'll
• 9:11
  Speaker 2: see nas hanging out like dang go they go bust
• 9:14
  Speaker 2: the rhymes.
• 9:14
  Speaker 1: Wow, it was like that. What is You did so
• 9:18
  Speaker 1: many of these spring breaks, which I miss seeing those
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: because they were so.
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  Speaker 2: Legend because you were like four.
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: No. I actually DJed one of them, but it was
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: like in twenty ten or eleven with two chains, but
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: it was it was in Vegas, the palms obviously not
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: the same, not the same, not the same man, not
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: to say it. At that point they were still holding on. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: women loved you at the time. They still do. They
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: still do. Shout out to your wife. She's a strong woman.
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: Yes she holds a death. But I'm curious, like, like
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: you had to have a crazy situation or crazy story.
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: I got one for you. So my first spring break
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: that I go to Daytona Beach. Right, So Polly shows
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: the man, right, So imagine he's like, he's like big bro,
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  Speaker 2: he's a senior in high school.
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: I'm a freshman. Yeah, he's kind of like that.
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  Speaker 2: But he puts, you know, takes me under his wing
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: or whatever. He's like, Bro, man, it's cool man to
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: meet you. Bro.
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: You're like doing good on the channel.
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: Man. It's like, like, I want to I want to take
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: you something. Man, I got to do this event. Bro,
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: you went a row. So I'm like, Polly, you're gonna
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: take me do some cool white boys ship, right, I'm like,
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: all right, whatever. He's like, Bro, I want you to
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: be a judge at a banana eating contest. And I'm
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: like is he I'm immediately like about to be offended
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: because I'm like, Yo, what what what?
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: What are you trying to say?
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: What are you trying to say? I'm taking it all wrong.
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: He's like, Bro, it's gonna be the most I do
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: these every summer. Bro, It's like the best thing I
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: could ever bring you to the cutest chicks.
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be crazy.
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: I'm like, and I'm like, man, what are they gonna
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: be doing with these bananas? It is a line of chicks,
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: thirty chicks, bikinis. It's four judges. We got the table
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: here full of bananas peeled already. You got chocolate, strawberry, butterscotch,
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: and whipped cream. And each girl as they coming up,
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: got to eat the banana anyway they want. By the
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: third girl, it's pornographic.
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: I'm about to say this sound yo, yo it is?
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: It goes so crazy. He's like, dude, you like it, man,
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, the fifth chick, that bro, it was
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: one chick, two bananas gone, come back out.
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: She won.
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: I knew she won.
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: I was like, she won. That's crazy.
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the wild before because I never even
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: heard of nothing like that.
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: Because you know, now, I feel like the Ratchets selected
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: to uh do stuff with cucumbers now with pool party.
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: Oh they're doing a new thing.
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like a little Boozy had this pool party that
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: went viral a few years ago and it was because
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: like all the chicks were deep thrown cucumbers.
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: Oh they turned it up. They turned it up. Oh yeah,
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: Boosie turned it up. We started out in the in
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: the Little League with the bananas.
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: For you man, you've had, like, like I said, so
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: many areas of your career, but like a show that
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: I actually really fucked with when I was younger was
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: Fast Lame, Yes, sir?
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: And was it one two seasons one when well we
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: went twenty episodes?
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: Was on Fox? Right?
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: It was on Fox? Yeah, and we came on after
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: American Item.
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes. What was something you learned about like
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: going through because that wasn't necessarily like said most most
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: guys who are you know, funny guys or whatever I mean,
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: But you've also played so many different roles, But did
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: you learn anything about going through kind of the blender
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: of the TV game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. The one thing that I learned about switching from
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: being a comedian comedian comedian and then doing dramatic stuff,
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: and that was a one hour series drama, yes, no
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: action action series. It's that people forget that you're funny immediately, right.
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: They've been like, oh yo, heat a cop now you
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? You know, like people forget Ice
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: t as a rapper facts a lot, like like did
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: they just think he's sell insurance and how to get
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: your motive fixed?
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: Right? Yeah?
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: Like Ice Tea was cop killer. People forget like people
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: only go with what you're presenting them. They don't go
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: behind the wall and see everything. And so for me,
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: I didn't do stand up for about two years because
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: I didn't have time. I was working on that TV
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: show and fifteen sixteen hour day and stuff like that.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: And so when I went back and start doing stand up,
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: when that show got canceled, everybody was like, I ain't
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: even know you as a comedian. I was like, what
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: in two years they forgot?
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: They forgot?
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, in two years. That's why you always got to
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: stay in front of them.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: Do you recall time? Because I feel like the one
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: thing that people are nervous about when it comes to
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: try and stand up. Is if they bomb, when is
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: like a memorable bombing moment for you? And how do
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: you deal with that if you're if you're in the
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: middle of that, you really can just do nothing but
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: keep it.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: Moving, right, No, man, being being on stage is really
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: it's a it's a beautiful thing, but it's actually kind
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: of scary because you could fail. You know, you cannot
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: be good or whatever. You know, it's like missing a
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: foul shot, you know when you really need to make one.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: That's what it feels like when you bomb. And so
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: to me, I think that one of the scariest things
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: for me when I bombed that very first bad time.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: It's like I didn't know what to say. After that,
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: I kind of got locked up and people were like,
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: get to the joke, bro, Like people start yelling. I
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: didn't know how to deal with hecklers. I just was like,
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: good night, I got tapped out and I'm out. I
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: tell yah, yeah, yeah. I didn't know what to do,
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: so I had to I had to practice because you
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: got to practice for failure too. It's just like being
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: in a fight, like you know, you might have a
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: game plan, but he's he's he's killing that plan.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: You got to adjust to the plan? Did you have?
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Because the How to Be a Player soundtrack was legendary? Nice,
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: it's so good. Yeah. Did you have your hands in
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: any of the songs that got picked or did you
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: did they? Did they go to you for any feedback? Yeah? Yeah,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: yeah I did.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: Actually, one of the songs that I wanted to be
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: the lead was the one that they chose was with
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: fo Yeah boom boom boom boom boom boom to boom
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Great video. I was in the video, Yeah boom.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: It was a shout out to Drew here and Foxy Whoo.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: That was that was it was. I had Chris, I
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: had Chris Webber in that video. I had Stephan Marbury
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: in that video.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: I had I remember Steph, Yeah, Steph.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Steph was sort of like a godbrother or something like
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: the fairy god brother.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: And did you Were you just friends with those guys
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: at the time.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was cool with everybody. Yeah. See Web had
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: a CEA.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Web had a significant role in it, and.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: He was also like a people don't know he made
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: a lot of hip hop beats and ship Yeah.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Yo, that's true. He did and he still does.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he still does. Yeah yeah. So yeah, so you're
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: do you help put that video together?
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Know what happened was I was getting privy to hearing
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: the songs. Yeah, and and so what At that time,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: the soundtracks on movies was like a second character. You know.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know how they do it now, because.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: It used to be an extension of the movie.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like you could. Your soundtrack had to be equivalent
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: to the movie. Yes, And so for me, because I
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: was so trenched into music, I was just lucky enough
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: to be able to like, oh yo, I like that
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: one down to be a sexy We could use that
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: one right there for the love scene.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: They like, yeah, we'll say that, Jode, that's a little
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: sexy vibe.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: But this is how I felt like, that's how the
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: movie should open up. Booom boo boom boom boom boom
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: boom boom, Get you going, you know what I mean?
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: That's I picked that. It's crazy too, because if you
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: think about like, I don't think people understand like growing
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: up around that time, like the word player was really
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: a thing. There was a player haters. Yeah, if you're
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: a player, you were playing a bunch of different women.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: But this movie had to have either positively or negatively
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: influenced a lot of young men.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: I think I think it negatively influenced a lot of
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: guys because they thought they could do. You was juggling
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: in this I was juggling everything moving in that movie,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: and everything was hand picked by me.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Oh wow. Yeah.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: All those girls were, you know, selected on purpose because
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: I wanted it to. I wanted you to be like
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: at the candy store.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: You know, did you know any of them prior? Nah? Okay,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they were like yo, A couple
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: of my jump offs made.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, not like that. But the only one
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: that I knew that i'd worked with before was Lark
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Got It because Lark was Onna Save by the Bell
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: at the time, and I had interviewed her like a
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: year before on MTV Got so I knew her. But
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: the other girls were new, and I just wanted it
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: to be different types of women that were attractive, so like,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: it wouldn't just be like, oh, he only liked this
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: type of girl. No, we like everything that's sexy and beautiful.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: What was Uh, you know, because I think somebody who
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: we're gonna miss, who's got so many iconic movie roles,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: a guy like Bernie. I was gonna say AJ's in
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: the movie, but Bernie's in the movie as well. But
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: talk about both of those guys, like I think you
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  Speaker 1: to the podcast. But Bernie Mack in ninety seven, he's
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• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still He's on We're on tour together. He
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: was like a big bro to me.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: I love Bernie a lot, man, and we really really
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: bonded as friends. And you know, I was like, Bernie, Man,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: you should do this movie with me, man, because we
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: had the Who's the Man together too, And.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: He was like being here. You know, so you got
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Bertie a man.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Can I say what'll say? Can I do what I'll do? Like, yo, man,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: We're gonna let you right. So Bernie gets in the movie. Man,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: it's so many takes. I couldn't even look at him, man,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: because he was Yo, man, You're so fucking funny.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Bro. I couldn't even look at him. Bro.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: I had to you will see me as some tapes
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: jumping like because they would let him just say he
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: made up that whole scene. But Disney, yeah yeah, that
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: wasn't scripted.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Oh that was inscripted. Oh hell no, that can we
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: attribute but Dissey to uh, to Bernie, that's Bernie. That
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: came from his brain.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: That just came out of his mouth.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: And everybody's like, we put it in the movie. Put
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: it in the movie. It's done.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: But dissy booty digging pussy, that's what it smell like.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: That Are you imagine hearing that for the first time.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: I ain't never heard nobody say no ship like that.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: I was, man, I was.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: That's hilarious.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: That's that's the essence of Bernie and A. J. Johnson
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: also to a very very very funny guy.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: He uh.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: He was another one that can improv beyond words. Beyond
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: the words you could not write what he could say
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: off the top of his head. Rest in peace to
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: both of those guys, man, they were absolutely incredible for me.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Legends you are attributed with creating booty call the term, yes, sir,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: what what is the origin of this? What?
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: It came out in ninety two? Ninety I did it
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: in ninety one. It probably came hit. It was a bit.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: It was a bit on Death Company, jail got it
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: and it just blew up, Like the phrase just blew up,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: and everybody was like, Yo, I'm gonna get me a
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: booty call, like because I just I just I feel
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: like I just nailed the essence of what it is,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: you know, calling the check up, trying to get her
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: to come to the crib, you know, saying like, Yo,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: she's like, what we gonna do? I don't even know,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: you know, just pull up, you know what I mean.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: That's every guy in the world. That's every guy that
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: got a new crib. Your roommate left and you got
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: a little shorty coming by, you know. That's the essence
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: of it. And I just didn't know it was gonna
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: become such a popular term.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: The deaf comedy jam era was so legendary because you
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: had so many people come out of it. Did you
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: guys realize how special it was at the time, Like Livally,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: we knew.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: We knew because the buzz was crazy. You got to
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: understand it had never been an opportunity. It had never
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: been an opportunity in black comedy where everybody was going
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: to get a shot at one time. You know, it
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: would be like an NBA draft where all of the
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: best players are going to get a chance to go
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: to the league. Right, That's what it felt like. It
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: was like, if you get on this show, Scott's the
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: limit because you're going to be deemed one of the
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: top comedians in the country. And that's how we did it.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: We came in hard. Everybody had eight minutes to get busy,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: and you wanted your eight minutes to stand them up.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: What was the hardest guy you ever had to follow?
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Where you watched it set and you're like, fuck, that's crazy,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: I'm supposed to follow this shit. Wow?
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: The hardest person to follow was Bernie Mack.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can imagine a Bernie Mack.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Was a monster man, talk about you had to be
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: on your a game. You could not slack with him.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: And he was just hosting the Deaf Jam Tour and
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: he was killing everybody.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Murdering it.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: He was getting standing ovations as this before the show
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: started while people were going to their seats. That's bro.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Do you know how hard that is? That's how funny
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Bernie is.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Man? Who yo was there? What's the most awkward situation
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: where interview you did with MTV. Maybe somebody high, maybe
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: somebody was drunk, Maybe somebody didn't want to be interviewed,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: maybe somebody was an asshole. Was there ever like an interview?
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: You're like, god, that was that was interesting?
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Oh well, I mean the only one I could say
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: that was I guess like that was R Kelly and
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Aliah Oh wow, yeah, because he just left. He just
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: like like they we were doing the interview, asking about
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: the album, talk to her, talk to him talking. This
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: is when she's promoting agent ag ain't nothing but a
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: number And they was obviously married at the time. Nobody
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: knew they had on this cute little short set, same
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: little match and Mickey Mouse bullshit on what the fuck?
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: And in the middle of the interview, he was like,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: we're done. I was like what. I was like you
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: in the bathroom looking around and ship all the producers
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: come running out the back of what's going on? Man?
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Robert Sleeving, He's sitting in a limo. I'm like for he?
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: So did Aliah leave too? Yeah? They left?
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: So rumor has it was at that time he got
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: in his feelings about me talking to her like that.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Do you know what you said?
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: That might nothing man, it was all interview. Man, I
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: was I was just being yourself. Yeah, I was just
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: being myself and like we was laughing or whatever. I
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: don't even when we went back and looked at it,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: it was nothing in there. I think it was just
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: the energy of her laughing with somebody else and maybe.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: He's like, you can't laugh with another man.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Nah, you my little shorty baby. Age ain't nothing but
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: the number.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: And so did everyone know they were together? No thing?
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: She was in the ninth grade. I think at the time.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: That's my thing.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: I just holler you when you're sixteen, ninth.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Grade, tenth grade, ninth or tenth grade. My thing is
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: is like who was around her? That was like, ah,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: you're pushing this album called AG nothing but a Number,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: and R Kelly's with you everywhere. We got to ask
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: these questions.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: But you got to understand back then, having R. Kelly
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: executive produce your album.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Huge deal, Like it's the biggest shit.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, he did the whole album and
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: that was a big deal. And so she was brand new.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: You know, back then, we didn't even put two and
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: two together. AG ain't nothing but a number. We didn't
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: even think about it. Back then, Yeah right, it didn't
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: even like we were just like, oh, that's a nice
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: thing then.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: And then when the news started to come out, you
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: were like, oh right.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Fuck, just told on yourself, homie. What was up?
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Rest in peace of Nono Luis who passed the way
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: a legendary anti personality.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Incredible person, wonderful system man. That was tough because Ananda
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: had all the boxes checked off. Beautiful, smart, intuitive, funny,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: down to earth. She was just perfect, bro, and we
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: we just loved her to death and nobody knew she
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: was sick. Now, she didn't look sick or whatever, you know,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: or she didn't go from here to be really sick
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: looking or anything. She just looked normal. Then she was
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: just gone. This is crazy. So the most uncanny thing.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: I went to her memorial, and she knew she was dying, right,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: She didn't want to do certain medicines and stuff she did,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: you know, so this you know, realistic thing or whatever.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: But what was so uncanny She did a whole interview
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: thing of herself alive, knowing that she was going to
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: be gone, and they played that at the memorial, so
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: she she knew, bro, it was just creepy dope. She
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: wanted to stay alive to see her son graduating. Wow, man,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: it was it was deep, bro. It was everybody was crying.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Bro. It was crazy at that time. Or you guys
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: like you have like this personality of MTV cast members.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Like like a bond like we're like like like.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Even like a guy like Kurt Loader. Guys ever hang
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: out with Kurt.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Well, we don't get to see it in the studio,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: but like we all kind of still have these little
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: overlapping friendships. You know, we bonded, we kind of grew
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: up together at that time. We were all very very young.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Like Kennedy, I still stay in touch with her. I
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: just saw Simon Rex a couple of weeks ago.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: He was hanging out with like riff Raff.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know what he's doing, but you know he's alive.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: So I'm proud of that. I haven't seen Duff or
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: anybody like. I haven't seen Let me see who else,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: John Cencio. I haven't seen Matt Penfield.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Matt Penfield was legend. Hey Bgger's ball man. I saw
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: that dude somewhere. I love Matt Penfield Jersey Boy. In
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: the last decade, I saw Matt Penfield somewhere and I
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: was just like.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: And he was my first he was my first chat GPT.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: He knew everything music nerd. He's a music nerd for sure, don't.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Diple Pilots eighty four. You know he was that guy.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Do you have any perks or rather, does Shaq have
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: any perks with you being his cousin when he first
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: comes into the league.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Are you guys? I think it's I think it's very
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: I think it's it works. It works both ways. It
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: doesn't hurt.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Either, Like, were you guys close cousins?
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, So I just talked to him.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: He goes LSU and this ship is just crazy.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Bro, Bro, this is what's so crazy. How we just
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: we always laugh? How did this happen?
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: You just almost summed it up. Shack goes to l
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: s U. I'm coming up, I'm graduating from Rutgers. I'm
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: literally don't even know in the next two years, I'm
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: about to be famous. I don't know that yet. Shack's
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: down there tearing Rims down, going bonkers. Right, So within
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: two years, because he only did two with LSU, I
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: think I believe, right, So two let's say two years,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: two years. He's gone two years. I'm blowing up. It
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: happened so bugged out. Cut to He's in the league,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: ain't Orlando, I'm on MTV. Bam, We're back together. It's crazy,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: it's crazy.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: And then he's like he almost immediately becomes like a
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: cultural thing.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's it was like he was the big
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: jolly green jaion. Yo.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: It's like, I remember you could buy the Shack toys
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: quick Shack, I have the Super Nintendo game everything, because
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: am fucking what was the other joint steel steal.
• 31:09
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• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Did you feel like uh uh? Because you you're in,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: you got You're in some awesome cult classics. I think
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: a movie like The Brothers that I think came out about.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I think you just celebrated twenty five years of being released. Yeah,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: The Brothers. Is there a movie of yours that you
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: feel like doesn't get enough love that is just like
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: a favorite for you.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: I think one of the movies I did that should
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: get a lot of love is Love Stinks.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Love Stinks?
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a movie I did with Tyra Banks
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Bridget Nielsen.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Was Tyra Banks your love us? She was?
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she was my love interest. Uh, French Stewart okay.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: And Jason Bateman, Oh the Bateman's man, Come on, Black Rabbit.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Jason Bateman's awesome.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: And you know who else was in that movie? Oh?
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: You know, not that movie. I did a movie called
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Buying the Cow.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Bionic buying, Buying a Cow, Buying the Cow, Buying the Cow.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Interesting and Ryan who plays I'm thinking of his name
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: right now. I'm joining Blank Ryan. He's Superstar, Superstar, did
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: all the superhero real stuff.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Oh fuck, I don't know.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: He's got He's the character with the with the two
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Swords of the back right here. Oh oh Ryan, that
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: man that pool bruh.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Ryan the main dude. He's this is gonna bother me.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Why can't I think of it? I know I know him.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: He's in everything we are talking about. Ryan Reynolds.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, me and Roynald Reynolds did a movie together too.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: That's fire Man. Are you still like, I guess what
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: motivate you now? Because I feel like you have. If
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: you're gonna do the stand up thing, that's got to
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: be something you you love and it's got to be
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: something that you like, you kind of got to train for,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: you know, like, oh, it's a random Tuesday. Let me
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: pull up to the laugh Factory and get off five minutes.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: I did, I did.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: I did that a week ago.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: I went to.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Chocolate Sundays and Laugh Factory legendary blew it up like
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: fifteen minutes of straight fire right, and that to me
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: And I just had a dude walk up to me
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: and say, yo, man, I was at Chocolate Sunday's your man.
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  Speaker 1: You got that?
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: You still got that fied. I was like, yeah, that's good,
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  Speaker 2: that's what.
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  Speaker 1: You want to hear. Yeah, yeah. Do you do that
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  Speaker 1: often when you know you're gonna be hitting the road,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: just make sure you can't.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: You don't want to be that. That's the thing about
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: by stand up like you don't want to come off
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: rusty because because your rhythm, you know your time, it
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: could be off. So you gotta get you gotta get
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: some reps up. So when you hit that role like that,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: you like, bam bam, bam bam.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: You know what.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: You know what you're saying. You know where you're going,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah for sure? Yeah do you you you have a
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: I guess a pretty nice repertoire of music videos. You've
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: been in Jamie Fox blame it.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Blame it on it, don't blame it on it. We
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: talked about I was in Temptations.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: We talked about the Foxy Brown I was in.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: I was in.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: The Brat, give it to you legend, this early Brat.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Early Brat. Everybody was in that one. Yeah, was there
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: another one?
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Could you kind of were like the the like we
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: need an attractive Londoners.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I was always the handsome love instertrants guy.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Whatever. What was the most interesting video shoot? You've been
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: a part of Temptations?
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Because if you go back and watch that movie, it
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: was like being in a in a voyeurs club or
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: something like that. Because if you go back, we shot
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: that in an old hotel downtown La Coolio is like
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: the waiter that's delivering all the food to all the rooms.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: And if you remember, if you see the video, you
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: look through the keyhole and then you can see what's
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: in there. And then I was in a love scene
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: in this big furry bed with Jasmine guy. Wow, you
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: know how many people was in that video?
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Jada Clio serving.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Food like Colio go back.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Iced Tea was in it. Iced tea.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Iced tea was the guy at the at the at
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: the counter, the receptionist, so iced tea was in it.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Coolio was in it, Tretch was in it. Salt and
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Pepper was in it. Jada Pinkey was in it. Damn, damn,
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Jasmine guy. I'm just going down the list. That's crazy, yo.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Who do you put as your deaf comedy? Jam Mount
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Rushmore that is a great question.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: First of all, Martin Lawrence shot out to Martin. Of course,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: you can't say death jam without mart Lawrence. You got
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: to go, Martin, you gotta go. Bernie yep Um. Trying
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: to think somebody death comedy jail.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: That is hard.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: So I mean I only get two more, two more,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: two more, I would say, Chris Tucker.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and me and you I love it, I
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: killed it.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: What I'm just trying to think of people who had
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: explosive sets.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Can we talk about because I think Russell Simmons, for
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: all of the better or worse things he's known for
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: right now, uh, he did have a lot to do
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: with helping the comedic scene in a real way, Yeah,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: with elevating us with yeah ev I mean he even
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: executive produced the movie How to Be a Player? Absolutely,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Can you speak to like Russ's kind of just like
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: I guess slept on uh impact on comedy, because I
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: don't think you can talk about it.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: I think I think you know, what people don't realize
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: about Russell Simmons, you know, is that he has always
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: been a pioneer for the music, you know, and so
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: his early days of him and Rick Rubin you know,
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: creating deaf comedy jam in a college dorm is crazy
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: for sure, insane. I mean, that's just just the concept
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: of two guys sitting together going, Yo, we're going to
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: create something that don't exist, and it's gonna be big,
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: and it's gonna be crazy, and we're going to change lives.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: That's that's dope. He did literally the same thing with comedy.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: He thought that urban comedy was the funniest representation of
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: the culture of hip hop. You know what we were
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: talking about, the energy music, Like black comics are the
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: only comics that Toda's day come on stage to music,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: right right, right, right right, Well, white guys come out,
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: they just say, hey, there's guys, here's Ryan, Hey guys.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: You know, we come out to hip hop's it's a
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: part of what we do, is the feeling is, it's
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: the skin of the game. And Russell definitely saw that
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: and he said, hey, man, I'm going to present this
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: to HBO and he changed our lives as a lot
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: of guys became movie stars tv stars from him.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: One hundred percent, man, And that was kind of like
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: the beginning of it. Yes, sir, all right, dude, well listen,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: I got to ask you about this because everyone in
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: comedy is talking about this roast that just happened with
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Kevin Hart. Yeah, it's crazy. I see both sides of
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: the coin. Yeah, yeah, I've seen, like, you know, a
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: lot of people coming to fend Tony hinchflip. But what
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: are your thoughts about just the roast and like, do
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: you think some of the jokes went too far? Yeah?
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: I do think some of the jokes went too far.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: But but that's what the roast is.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: It's kind of the point of the roast.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Like I'm to me, I'm like, if you ain't, if
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: you can't, if you can't take the heat, don't go
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: in the kitchen.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: That's why I would never do a rose. I don't
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: want to be in part. I don't want to be
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: a part.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Of a roast.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: I'd rather be able to make you laugh about yourself.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: I don't want to hurt you. Like some of that
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: shit could go too hard, you.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying. When they were talking about Cheryl
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Underwood's that's crazy, but I guess you knew that they were.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but she but she she's a g with it.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yo, But.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Some of that stuff, you know, that George Floyd thing
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: was it was nothing and you can you can't get
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: around it. There's certain things you cannot make fun of.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: There's no way to make light of it. It's just
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: just inappropriate. So why do that joke because you could
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: do something else, like you could do you could do
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: that joke differently, if you want to talk about the
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: same premise, use a different You could still get a
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: joke off, like, you don't have to use it that way.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: That's why I don't.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Understand why they didn't they do it that way, Like
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: why they say, well, you know what, I don't want
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: to take people out the joke. It's just like sometimes
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: you do a political joke and or you might do
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: something a little too you know, male dominant women, Oh
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: my god, Like you know what I mean, if you
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: make people do this this too much?
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Like you can.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: But you can still have a cool pen and write
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: a real good joke and be smart about it. But
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: sometimes you gotta be just a little mindful, you know
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: what I mean?
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Do you feel I just saw did you see what
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: happened with Carlos Mencia? He got arrested. No, what happened?
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: So he got arrested with like, I think twelve tax
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: fraud charges. He's in jail. He's actually arrested.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: In Carlos Mencia is in jail, is.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Currently in federal custody. What yes, So for what they said,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: he did not report over eight million dollars of earnings
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: in the last I don't know X amount of years.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: So I was gonna ask you now that you've just
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: found out about this, do you feel like it? That
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: is one of the things that's hard to kind of
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: figure out when you are a comedian, is like how
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: to get your finances right, and cause.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: You know, you make a lot of money fast sometimes.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: And then it's a lot of time. He had ninety
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: nine money, yep.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: You sometimes you're getting cash, you know.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: So it's like, I feel like it's easy to avoid
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: paying taxes when it's like not front of mind. I
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: guess yeah.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: But you also got to have an accountant to you know,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: you got to have bookkeeping. You got to be able
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: to protect yourself because if if they do if they
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: do all your shows and they go back and say,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: you made two million dollars last year and you didn't
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: report nothing, and we know you made two million dollars
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: because we went to all the venues, and because what
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: happens is the venues ten ninety nine, they don't want
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: it on them, right, so they put it on you. You
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: ain't hey, I gave you. I gave you forty thousand,
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: all right, don't look for me. I gave you the
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: forty thousand. So they send the government to your career.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: You're so if you don't report it. Yeah, they only
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: do that because it's a massive for sure something happened,
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: because he's locked up like it ain't like he made bell.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: He's been locked up for like a week.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Wow, I didn't even know that when it got him
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: to hear that, bro crazy, You.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Were somebody who was on Chelsea Lately show regularly. I
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: feel like she doesn't get enough credit for the platform
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: she gave up and coming comedians.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, man, Chelsea's a rider man.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Like I found out about Joe Coy from her show.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: There's a bunch of guys and girls that came on
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: regularly like that sat at that panel and was able
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: to just get off jokes and have fun and shout
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: out to Chelsea for that.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: That was really really cool.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: And people that don't know how down the earth she
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: really is even though she comes off super edgy and shit,
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: but she's like down to earth and super cool.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: Did she ever try to throw it at you? Well,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: you're a married man, so I am assuming that man.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: No, she never tried, but she liked.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: She comes across like she's like just trying to She
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: she like she needed She's everybody now.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: When I when I was doing Chelsea, she was dating
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: a dude from CBS at the time, I thought.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Good for her. Shout out to Chelsea. Do you have
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: a secret because you just celebrated twenty five years of marriage?
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: What is your secret to success in a marriage?
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: Compromise, balance, consideration.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: It's like, you gotta make time for your family. You
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: gotta make time for your kids. You gotta make time
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: for yourself. Like it's always about how do you utilize
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: your time? Because if you don't make the time, you
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: miss it. Think about it, it's risk. You work here
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: all the time, you don't spend time with your kid,
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: you ain't gonna make no memories.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: So you gotta figure out, Okay, well I can't tape
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: every day. Maybe I'll tape extra on Wednesday. Take Tuesday
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: off your tour is coming up. Top Billing Tour kicking
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: off in San Diego this weekend. Yeah, we getting busy too.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: It's going all the way till December. We're not playing.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: You gotta be pretty excited hit the road again.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: I was out, I don't know, maybe four or five
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: months ago and i was doing Popping In, Popping Out.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: But I'm going hard to the end of the year
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: because I'm really gonna knock out another special. So this
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: is just just prime time for me to be right.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Are you doing the special where a partner You're doing
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: the YouTube route or because I feel like, I mean
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: it might be you know, just did like a million
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: views in the first day.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's free, right and YouTube is accessful to everybody.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Everybody be like, oh my god, I heard this thing
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: on YouTube. I love that part about it, you know
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: what I mean. They don't have to weigh you know,
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: if you some people don't have cable, you know, but
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: they got they got internet, right, So I think YouTube
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: is definitely a big, big play, but just making people laugh, right, Like,
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: I just want to put out good content. I just
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: launched my new YouTube channel, Bill Bellamy TV. Dope my
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• 45:45
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• 45:48
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  Speaker 1: It is man, Bill Bellamy, go buy tickets to the
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  Speaker 1: Let's go out there.
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  Speaker 2: It is.
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