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Best of Full Interview: Jermaine Dupri Talks 'Magic City: An American Fantasy,' New Album, Billboard, Mariah Carey + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Every day up waiting, click your ass up the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: You don't finished for y'all done morning everybody.
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  Speaker 3: It's d J Envy, Jess Larry Charlamagne, the God. We
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  Speaker 3: are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in
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  Speaker 3: the building.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, indeed, j.
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  Speaker 2: D, Jermaine dupri. What's happening?
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  Speaker 5: How you feeling?
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  Speaker 4: You're looking at the wall, looking at the wall.
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  Speaker 5: We ain't got JD on the wall.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think I made the wall.
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  Speaker 6: That's all right, that's you got JD on the wall,
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  Speaker 6: y'all ain't got me up there.
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  Speaker 1: See the wall represents like iconic breakfast club moments.
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  Speaker 4: Not that you haven't given us great interviews.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't had it. You know what I'm saying. You
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  Speaker 2: have had some you know.
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  Speaker 6: The studio, don't.
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  Speaker 2: I'm I'm not that conversation.
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  Speaker 4: But you have always coming in and gave giving us
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  Speaker 4: great conversation.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 1: And I've been enjoying the Magic City docuseries and it
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  Speaker 1: got me to thinking about like just Atlanta. Like in
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  Speaker 1: Atlanta's had a lot of different runs as far as
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  Speaker 1: music is concerned.
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  Speaker 4: But what is Atlanta culture exactly? Is it? This? Is
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  Speaker 4: it the script clubs?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that that's one of the things skating, you know,
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  Speaker 6: And you know, I think like it's a bunch of
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  Speaker 6: different things, like the base music and a bunch of
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  Speaker 6: different things. But we haven't we've never really highlighted these
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  Speaker 6: things the way I guess I'm trying to do and
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  Speaker 6: make sure that people understand that that's what it is,
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  Speaker 6: because I think like people think, like even with the
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  Speaker 6: strip club situation, it was me and whoever else was
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  Speaker 6: promoting this from a long time ago, just black people
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  Speaker 6: trying to promote strip clubs.
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  Speaker 2: And you learned from.
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  Speaker 6: The documentary that this this was a law that was
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  Speaker 6: passed in the city and might be more states in
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  Speaker 6: this you know South, that nudity was something that they
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  Speaker 6: opened the floodgates and made it a business.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So even me growing.
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  Speaker 6: Up, I never realized why it was so many strip
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  Speaker 6: clubs in Atlanta. It was a strip club, damn on
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  Speaker 6: every corner in every hood in Atlanta, and I never understood.
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  Speaker 2: I just thought we was just a strip club place.
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  Speaker 6: But when you look at this documentary, you start going
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  Speaker 6: outside and looking at all the other places, like in
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  Speaker 6: Florida and all these other places. You're like, oh, it's
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  Speaker 6: a law that was passed, right, And I used to
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  Speaker 6: come to like New.
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  Speaker 2: York when we used to do things and wherever.
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  Speaker 6: I go to other cities and be like, man, why
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  Speaker 6: these cities ain't popping like Atlanta with the strip clubs,
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  Speaker 6: And the law is a real law that gave us
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  Speaker 6: the entryway to just have this going.
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  Speaker 2: So there, that's a that's an Atlanta thing. You know.
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  Speaker 3: It's Magic City, the biggest strip club and the most
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  Speaker 3: recognized club in the US.
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  Speaker 5: To you what you think, what's your thoughts on it?
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  Speaker 6: Nah, I think I mean, I think it's been It's
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  Speaker 6: been a couple.
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  Speaker 2: You know, over the years.
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  Speaker 6: I think Magic is in the top three, of course,
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  Speaker 6: but like booby trapping, Miami, King of Diamonds when I mean,
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  Speaker 6: you know, Miami's always had you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 6: They've always had these trip clubs turn over there and
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  Speaker 6: be live. I think that's Houston. So I think Houston,
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  Speaker 6: it's a couple of places that's got. But I don't
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  Speaker 6: think Houston can get naked though.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing.
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  Speaker 6: It's like we're talking about Nudy is Flord's strip clubs
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  Speaker 6: is Miami and.
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  Speaker 1: Atlanta was nudy nudity Atlanta need that infrastructure. Now, That's
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  Speaker 1: what when I think about Magic City. I know people
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  Speaker 1: look at it as just a teddy ball, but when
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  Speaker 1: I'm watching The Doctor, even just growing up, I.
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  Speaker 4: Think of it as infrastructure. People with the break record, I.
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  Speaker 6: Want to say, I mean, that's the that's the thing.
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  Speaker 6: Like I was going to answer your question. The reason
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  Speaker 6: why I wanted to do it is because you know,
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  Speaker 6: we don't talk about the places that actually helped us
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  Speaker 6: get to where we are. You know what I mean,
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  Speaker 6: that part of hip hop stopped a long time ago.
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  Speaker 6: Like when you watch like Style, right when there's a
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  Speaker 6: person that's not from New York.
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  Speaker 2: I watched Wild Style.
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  Speaker 6: You can see like how Grandmaster cas them what they
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  Speaker 6: was doing to become and made what made hip hop
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  Speaker 6: turn into what it was here in New York. And
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  Speaker 6: in the later years of hip hop, what shows or anything,
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  Speaker 6: show kids what how we got? You know what I mean,
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  Speaker 6: how we got to where we are? And I think
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  Speaker 6: that you know, it's important for black establishments to show
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  Speaker 6: like it's a forty year old black establishment. The owner
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  Speaker 6: went to jail, They tried to sell his property. He
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  Speaker 6: took it back over and now it's back popping.
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  Speaker 2: Then that he got a TV show Like.
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  Speaker 6: That's American dream, you know what I mean? Like, regardless
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  Speaker 6: of whatever good or bad, it's a Black American dream
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  Speaker 6: that we don't ever really be talking.
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  Speaker 1: About infrastructure now, huh is it needed? Now?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: I mean we needed more than any of everybody. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: not just Atlanta, like a bunch of cities need to.
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  Speaker 6: It's probably a bunch of other cities has got like
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  Speaker 6: forty to fifty year old black establishments that that I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Even know about.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think ruined strip clubs? Because at one
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  Speaker 3: time it was a strip club in every city? They
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  Speaker 3: were always big. There was fifteen in Atlanta, there was
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  Speaker 3: ten in New York. What do you think ruined the
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  Speaker 3: strip club safety?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 6: I think that's why magic stands out so much, because
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  Speaker 6: you can go in magic with all your jurey on.
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  Speaker 6: You can go on magic and be the biggest star
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  Speaker 6: in the world and be standing next to the biggest
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  Speaker 6: criminal in the world. But whatever would happen somewhere else
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  Speaker 6: ain't getting ready to happen in magic.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, I mean, and.
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  Speaker 6: I say that proudly because even me, I go to
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  Speaker 6: Magic without security, like because the security in there gonna
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  Speaker 6: take care of me like they like if they was
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  Speaker 6: working for me.
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  Speaker 2: And I feel like it's the safest club in Atlanta.
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  Speaker 6: So I feel like that. I feel like the safety
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  Speaker 6: of strip clubs and how Magic ran the club strip
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  Speaker 6: club atiquette, I think that is that that's what killed.
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  Speaker 2: Strip clubs for the most part.
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  Speaker 5: Now.
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  Speaker 3: Also, I notice, you know, growing up, when we used
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  Speaker 3: to go to strip clubs, you go with a couple
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  Speaker 3: of dollars.
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  Speaker 5: Right, and you would you will be fine all night.
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  Speaker 5: That's totally changed.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's just your mental okay, Right, that's just people's.
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  Speaker 6: Mental space, right, because I go to the club now
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  Speaker 6: and you know, I don't if the if Magic City
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  Speaker 6: is like overly crowded, I'll go stand by the bar
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  Speaker 6: and I might spend five one hundred to one thousand dollars,
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  Speaker 6: you know.
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  Speaker 5: And by the way, that's a lot of money.
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  Speaker 3: Talk about a hundred dollars a thousand dollars at the bar.
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  Speaker 6: I'm just saying, let me put this in perspective, said,
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  Speaker 6: what's happened the other night when Chris Brown was in Atlanta?
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  Speaker 6: They spent two hundred thousand dollars in Magic City. So
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  Speaker 6: my little five hundred to a thousand that corner is
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  Speaker 6: like one hundred dollars man face, because.
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  Speaker 4: I have when people say those numbers and I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: I don't believe it.
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  Speaker 2: I swear to God, I mean godred thousand, God a
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  Speaker 2: hundred went to Chris, right.
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  Speaker 5: I've seen people bought one hundred thousand singles.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean one hundred went to Chris without a
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  Speaker 6: doubt and magic in magic they go when you when
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  Speaker 6: you order the money, they bring a Magic City bag backas.
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  Speaker 2: For you backpack.
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  Speaker 6: So the backpack had a hundred in it. Jada Waiter,
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  Speaker 6: y'all know, Ja, she got about a dog, right. I
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  Speaker 6: think maybe more p from QC. I think he ordered
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  Speaker 6: forty right then, and that you know that's that's one
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  Speaker 6: sixty right there. You know what I'm saying. Chris by
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  Speaker 6: himself had one hundred, That's what I'm saying. So if
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  Speaker 6: you start splitting it up, I think Booo probably got
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  Speaker 6: ten and fifteen to twenty.
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  Speaker 2: You were two hundred fast.
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  Speaker 1: So when you was in the back of the day
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  Speaker 1: with BMF, how much did you see them spend that.
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  Speaker 6: One on my album, I have a conversation with Meech
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  Speaker 6: and he says he spent six hundred thousand dollars one night.
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  Speaker 5: That's insanity, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: What's the most you spent with Janet? What did you spend?
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  Speaker 6: I mean I had a I had a limit, like
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  Speaker 6: when everybody heard me say I spend ten thousands, that
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  Speaker 6: was my limit. So once I got to that ten,
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  Speaker 6: I wasn't trying. But by the way, I'm not in
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  Speaker 6: there trying to compete. I always felt like, you know,
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  Speaker 6: at one point in time when BMF came or when
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  Speaker 6: BMF grew, because I've been in the club with meet
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  Speaker 6: for a long time before BMF was a crew like that,
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  Speaker 6: and we used to be at the Gentleman's Club back
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  Speaker 6: and when you watched the episode where Magic supposedly was
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  Speaker 6: burnt down or whatever, and everybody went to the Gentlemen's Club,
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  Speaker 6: that's back in the period of time when I actually
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  Speaker 6: met Meech, and Meech didn't have the crew, the crew
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  Speaker 6: of people with him, and we was in the Gentleman's
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  Speaker 6: Club and then the Gentlemen's Club. It wasn't about it
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  Speaker 6: wasn't it was like what he saying, We wasn't really
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  Speaker 6: throwing the money. We was just like giving the girls
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  Speaker 6: the money, right. And that's that's where I that's where
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  Speaker 6: the whole confusion about who started throwing the money came
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  Speaker 6: from because I start I started doing this in Money
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  Speaker 6: and the Thing video, And I know people want to
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  Speaker 6: say they did it and did it. Will you find
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  Speaker 6: a video that came out before Money and any thing
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  Speaker 6: where you see rappers throwing money like this, right? And
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  Speaker 6: that I never had a like, it wasn't about me
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  Speaker 6: trying to challenge nobody. It got it got to be
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  Speaker 6: that when reaching them crew came and it was like,
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  Speaker 6: oh damn, they throwing more money, we gotta throw It
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  Speaker 6: became like a money wall.
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  Speaker 2: I was never I was never part of that.
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking about you too, man, watching the documentary
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  Speaker 1: because especially thinking about everything that's going on in Atlanta. Now,
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  Speaker 1: did you purpose because you was outside, you was outside
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  Speaker 1: connected with everybody. Did you purposely stay away from rappers
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  Speaker 1: that were too in the street?
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  Speaker 2: Nah, I just I'm not. I'm not a street guy
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  Speaker 2: like that.
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  Speaker 6: I mean what I mean, I'm like, I'm a real
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  Speaker 6: hip hop person, right, a purist basically, right, And I
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  Speaker 6: don't believe that you should be rapping about shit that
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  Speaker 6: you don't actually do, like I've been that guy. Right,
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  Speaker 6: if you ain't in the jury and you ain't do it,
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  Speaker 6: don't talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: If you ain't flying, you.
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  Speaker 6: Don't be getting, then don't be making raps about it.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 6: And I ain't never had no reason to talk about
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  Speaker 6: me selling no dope. That ain't that just ain't been
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  Speaker 6: my life, right, I ain't.
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  Speaker 2: Come up like that. What about signing an artist that
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  Speaker 2: I have signed artists like that. I mean, Brat smoke
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  Speaker 2: more weed than Damnar Snoop Dog.
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  Speaker 6: But you know what I mean, it wasn't like it
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  Speaker 6: wasn't from a drug dealer perspective.
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  Speaker 2: It's from an actual stoner perspective.
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  Speaker 6: Right, I just think the perspective of how we I
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  Speaker 6: never was trying to sell, like I said, selling selling drugs.
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  Speaker 6: But I mean, you know all the artists I think,
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  Speaker 6: damn it talking about I mean that franchise boys, you
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  Speaker 6: know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: White Tea is about dope boys, like all of that.
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  Speaker 6: All the music I just think it's it's also camouflaged
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  Speaker 6: in beats that make you want to dance where you're
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  Speaker 6: not paying attention to it.
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  Speaker 2: It's not this dark, I'm gonna kill you type of music.
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  Speaker 4: That was the other thing about Magic City too. Why
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  Speaker 4: are script clubs?
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  Speaker 1: Why are you able to break records in script clubs
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  Speaker 1: but not liking the regular club. In the regular club,
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  Speaker 1: you got to play the records that keep the party going. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: But in the script club you can try new shit.
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  Speaker 6: Why is it Because in any lounge setting, music is
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  Speaker 6: just played, right. It's just like almost like getting on
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  Speaker 6: the elevator. When you get on the elevator, you don't
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  Speaker 6: care what the music is. They play all kind of
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  Speaker 6: music in the elevator. Especially when you go like the Vegas,
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  Speaker 6: you hear all kinds of stuff and you're like, you
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  Speaker 6: might listen, you might not.
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  Speaker 2: You're having a conversation. It's the same way. It's it's
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  Speaker 2: ultimately it's for DJ to pay attention.
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  Speaker 6: If he play a record and y'all over there talking
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  Speaker 6: and then all some somebody start moving, you can see
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  Speaker 6: at that point this was not forced, right, And I
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  Speaker 6: feel like that's the most organic thing that we still
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  Speaker 6: have left in the music business. It's like, organically, I
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  Speaker 6: didn't pay you to listen to my song, or ain't
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  Speaker 6: nobody come over there? And over promote you to listen
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  Speaker 6: to my song. You just heard it, and you like, damn.
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  Speaker 2: Who is that? Who is that?
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  Speaker 6: That's like Cuavos, you know, you know you could see
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  Speaker 6: the emotional people trying to figure out what it is,
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  Speaker 6: or you see somebody in the shazam the song.
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  Speaker 2: This is actual real time.
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  Speaker 3: At one time with women banned from the strip club,
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  Speaker 3: I thought I never remember because I know they would
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  Speaker 3: be charged now.
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  Speaker 6: It was one It was a period of time where
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  Speaker 6: none dancing females looked down on dances and the Gentleman's
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  Speaker 6: Club was a gentleman's club.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't no women in the Gentleman's Club. That's what
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  Speaker 2: it was called. And that's how we That was our spot, right.
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  Speaker 2: But then these ladies start.
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  Speaker 6: Figuring out, these guys are going to having fun, they eating,
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  Speaker 6: and they not calling us, They're not coming home.
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  Speaker 2: We want them to come home. What the hell is
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  Speaker 2: going on in this club?
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  Speaker 6: And then once, like I said, even like me with Janet,
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  Speaker 6: she wanted to go so bad, and I'm like, I'm
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  Speaker 6: just in there having fun, kicking it with my guys,
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  Speaker 6: eating blah blah blah. And it was like multiple times
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  Speaker 6: where I was like, I'm not going, not going, And
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  Speaker 6: then when we got to take care in that, she's like, oh, oh,
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  Speaker 6: I thought y'all was in here. I'm like, I don't
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  Speaker 6: know what y'all thought we was in here doing, but
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  Speaker 6: they they thought it was something else prior to them going,
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  Speaker 6: and enough of them started going and they start realizing, like, girl,
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  Speaker 6: they don't be doing nothing in there.
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  Speaker 2: They ain't having a good time.
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  Speaker 6: If you are able to just party and not pay
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  Speaker 6: attention to the girls being nicked, then you should be
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  Speaker 6: able to have a good time with your man or
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  Speaker 6: your friend or whoever that's in there. So I think
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  Speaker 6: that started right that that situation started, and then guys
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  Speaker 6: start realizing like they didn't have to lie to their
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  Speaker 6: girls either, because ain't nobody having sex in Magic City,
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  Speaker 6: you know what I mean. They got other clubs where
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  Speaker 6: that might be going on, but Magic City is a
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  Speaker 6: full on show, right, It's no way for you to
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  Speaker 6: be in there, you know what I mean, doing that
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  Speaker 6: in that club and people.
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  Speaker 2: Not see you with nothing. So that's not what happened.
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  Speaker 2: That's not what's happening in that club.
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  Speaker 1: The other thing about Magic City, or just watching the
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  Speaker 1: docu Atlanta used to pride itself on having a unique sound. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Now a lot of folks say Atlanta music just kind
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  Speaker 1: of like blends into the main scream. Do you feel
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  Speaker 1: like the city has lost this identity or it's just
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  Speaker 1: a natural evolution.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 6: I was trying to figure out how we how we
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  Speaker 6: talk about this because I don't want people to get
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  Speaker 6: this misconscrewed about me saying, because I'm not saying anything
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  Speaker 6: about what's going on with Thug, but what's happening with
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  Speaker 6: Doug is almost making people believe that.
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  Speaker 2: That's just that's all of Atlanta. Right. Meanwhile, Atlanta has.
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  Speaker 6: A subculture of these female rappers right now with Pluto,
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  Speaker 6: Yk Bankro, Nina, Banna Bee, and they have a real
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  Speaker 6: thing going. They have a real motion going, and they
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  Speaker 6: have a real movement going that is being ignored. Like
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  Speaker 6: right when they said, I saw people saying, it's no
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  Speaker 6: song of the summer. When Whammy in Atlanta, it was
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  Speaker 6: the song of the summer, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 6: That's that's the song of the summer. But for some reason,
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  Speaker 6: and it's the first time that's ever happened to me
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  Speaker 6: in Atlanta. So I'm saying, I'm trying to figure out why.
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  Speaker 6: But it's the first time that anybody else that's in
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  Speaker 6: the pressed. They're stealing all of the energy away from
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  Speaker 6: all of the artists that's out there, like we got Belly,
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  Speaker 6: Gang Cush, we got Swabe, we got all these new
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  Speaker 6: artists that's hot, even like Jed Jid got a hot
• 15:12
  Speaker 6: new record with Sierra Earth Gang. No no, no, it's
• 15:17
  Speaker 6: not record. It's it's not the label fault. It's actually
• 15:20
  Speaker 6: it's actually the media that all of the new artists
• 15:23
  Speaker 6: claim that they don't want to deal with by saying
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: they don't want gatekeepers, the media is acting like gatekeepers
• 15:30
  Speaker 6: and all they're talking about all these little podcasts. Guys,
• 15:33
  Speaker 6: all they talking about this thug. If you want to
• 15:36
  Speaker 6: talk about that and that's what you got going, then cool.
• 15:39
  Speaker 6: But don't say this is Atlanta Atlanta fell off. And
• 15:42
  Speaker 6: you ain't mentioning these girls, you know what I mean.
• 15:45
  Speaker 6: And you ain't mentioning Belly, and you ain't mentioning Jed
• 15:47
  Speaker 6: new album, and you ain't like because that's that now
• 15:50
  Speaker 6: you now you're deterring the energy that we out here
• 15:53
  Speaker 6: putting out and making it seem like this is the
• 15:57
  Speaker 6: only thing that's happening in Atlanta, and Atlanta's never been
• 15:59
  Speaker 6: like that.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: That's a great conversation.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: You open it up because I'm sitting there thinking like
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: back in the day, we had artists who had big records,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: and you maybe didn't know the artists yet, but at
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: some point those dots connected, like you know, white teams,
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: franchise but all of that stuff, but then eventually you
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: knew who the group was. Yeah, I think that's the disconnect,
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: like you might hear the record but not know who
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: the artist is connected.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: I meant, they gotta work harder.
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: But at the same time, it's like I said, it's
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: still mainstream media is promoting this as RA at Atlanta,
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: Like that's not that's not That's not where I live
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: at you know what I mean. And like I said,
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: these girls, I'm just looking at these girls and I
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: managed bank Ronina and and just me coming into helping
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: her with her career. What attracted me to it is
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: that they they doing this in a hip hop way.
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: They're using TikTok and whatever things means that they got
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: to get what they want and actually really creating a
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: thing in the hip hop And the only thing that's
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: missing is mainstream media paying attention to.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: I think I think that takes uh. That takes sometimes
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: people to run the circuit. Like everybody talks about the
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: clips right and they're like, yo, the clips had it's
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: one of the most genius rollouts.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: I'm like, that wasn't a genius rollout. It was just
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: a rollout.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: That's what the artists used to do.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: So I think sometimes it takes somebody like you to say, naw,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: we're going on the circus.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: But now, it was the thing even with the franchise boys, right,
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: you took the franchise Boys out on the road. Right,
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: you went from Mark de markets city to city, you
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: spoke to DJ to DJ until it connected.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: So somebody got to do that with a night and
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: it got to be you because you just more artists.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: But I get you say with Ji DJ like he
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: has to get out there and people like they know
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: his music, but do.
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: They know his face as much? Same thing with Pluto.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: I love the fact that Pluto is out, she's outing
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: about she came on the Breakfast Club, she's doing podcasts,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: she's starting to see her face outside of her music.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: But we don't see that a lot anymore. And with
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: the thing I was going to ask you, but what's
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: going on with Atlanta. I've never seen Atlanta in a
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: place where it seems like it's been so much against
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: each other because Atlanta is usually the place where everybody.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: Fucks with each other. Everybody sees each other at the club,
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: everybody sees each other.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Magic City, you see everybody together, whether they on good
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: terms or not, there together. And I've never seen a
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: land in a place where it seems like they're not connected.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying.
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: If we put the I mean, you're right both sides,
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: but if we put the eyes on these girls, they're
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: demonstrating what you're talking about.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: They making records of each other, They making songs.
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: They putting out records every week, and it's one record
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: with Bunnabee and Yk. It might be bent ro Nia
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: the next week and this person they put their showing
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: that they cool, they kicking it, they not beefing, even
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: though YK and Pluto kind of split, but they still
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: out here moving in a motion that shows the love
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: that what you're talking about Atlanta was prior. And that's
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: really what I wanted to do with my album is
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: just get back to that and just put people in
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: spaces that I didn't that I haven't seen people doing.
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: So when I put like Jay Money and Sean Paul
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: on the same that's what I was trying to do,
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: is like, because that is how I that's how I
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: grew up seeing Atlanta.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: But people got to make the rounds that these niggas
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: ain't Beyonce and so many niggas like the drop music
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: with no promotion no more.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Let's let's put that out there, nigga.
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: Everybody got to stop doing that ship in the music business.
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: Everybody got to stop doing that. I say that every
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: time the album come out, like I don't understand what
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: what what you think you're gonna get by not giving yes?
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: And once aday, I go back to the clips.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: The clips O g Rap Group showed everybody what you
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: supposed to do when you got a.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: Project, go work all the rooms.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Like you can't just put your ship online and expect
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: people to come come to you.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure they did. They did.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: They were out on the street and performed in the
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: middle of Brooklyn at.
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: A block party.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: To do that.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: They went to the car show, they went to concerts,
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: they did radio, they did you podcast, they did everything.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: They was to get those numbers, and it showed.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: I saw it.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: I saw these memes going around about the VMA's this
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: past weekend this week and everybody was like, yo, this
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: is like this means saying, this is how I feel
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: watching the VMA's. You know less and less people every year,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: and that's not because you getting older. It's because a
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: lot of these people just ain't running the circuit.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: Well, like everybody you just name. The only person I
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: know faces Pluto.
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, but the VMA's I went, and I
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: was gonna tweet while I was there, but I was like,
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: I'm not great because I might get in trouble.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I'm like turning something else.
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: But black culture is what is driving the internet when
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: it comes to music, right. It ain't enough black culture
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: at the VMA's for where the culture is from this
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: interviewing space, right, And I think that's a that's a
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: disconnect that you see at the VMA's and so so
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: a lot of the artists don't know if they should
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: go because they don't know, you know what I mean,
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: because it's been front loaded with like people like Paris Hilton,
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: and I mean, you know, they put Lotto in an
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: what's the next I spice on there. But that's what
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: I'm saying. It's still like it's not it's like, let's
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: forget about the under the down low.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: People that's really coming up.
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: I thought Busters should have got what he got, but
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: we should have saw somebody new, you know what I mean.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Jid, Sierra, you know what I mean. They could have
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: easily performed though. I just don't think that.
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: I just don't think people are actually from the mainstream
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: perspective of paying attention to this ground swell of music
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: that's happening.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: And then what do you do because I know for
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: a fact that first time I heard your album, I'm like, Yo,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: this skate.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: Record goals with Sierra and Earth Game.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: When when you're a JID and you're telling the label
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: this is the record, but the label saying, nah, let's
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: go with something else. But then the label ain't servicing
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: nothing to radio.
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, I mean when you got to you know,
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: like like NB knows it, you saying you gotta bring
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: these labels to what's going on. That ain't never been
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: a nun practice. Right when we had never scared. It
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: was Super Bowl weekend in Atlanta. I flew everybody to Atlanta,
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: and my mindset was when everybody leave, everybody gonna leave
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: here saying Bone Crushes the biggest record they heard in Atlanta.
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: People left Atlanta and they were saying that bone Crushing
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: record is the big When everybody got back to New York,
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: that was what was happening in their office. Can you
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: send me this bone crushing record? What's up with that
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: bone crush artist?
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: You've always been that's always been part of the practice.
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: I don't know why people think that these things change.
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: You have to None of these people know, you know
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: what I mean? Like nobody skates, right, nobody. These older
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: people that's in these labels, they're not skating. So how
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: do they know that it's a skating.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Thing going on in Atlanta? Three three days out of
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: the week. What night is popping?
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: What?
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: They're not even trying to go? They just thinking about music.
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: But we are actually selling culture inside our records and
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: we're actually doing what we talked. It was like selling
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: drugs if you talk about the drug wrappers. That's why
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: so many of them going to jail, because it's actually
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: real life.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: What skating rink was it?
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Cas skating is that is that would that be the
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: equivalent of Magic City for the skating rinks in Atlanta.
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: On the west side, But it's a skating rink on
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: every side. Like where I'm from, we had Sparkles and
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: we had and we got skate Town. But I think,
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: like when we shot the video for Jed, is that
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: Golden Glide that's on the east side. So all of
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: like each side of Atlanta they got skating rings.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: Did they break records?
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: And yeah, I think I want to say that the
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: first time I ever heard the Jaquess hit that he
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: had was at the skateing ring and it was on
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: like a because they do you know. The crazy part
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: about it is like R and B records, they do
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: slow skate or they do couple skate, and they don't
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: play no ghetto music when they do that. They actually
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: play whatever the ballad is.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: So I'm sure, like right now the Chris Brown record
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: probably going crazyness came round. I haven't been in the
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: last you know, the last couple of months, but I'm
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: sure it goes crazy when they do the couple skate
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: and that definitely breaks music. You skate, No know what
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: I'm saying I'm just saying these are time I hear records.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: You didn't.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: I want to ask you know, we had Coach k
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: up here about a week ago. He was saying that
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: the industry is missing a and.
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: Rs right, and we talk about it a lot.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Do you still think that we need somebody to develop
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: these artists, to help develop these artists, but.
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: The an rs need somebody to develop them, you know
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: what I mean? Like you know that's that's that's the truth.
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: Because the problem is is that the an ars is
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: acting more like babysitters down't They scared to tell the
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: artists like that shit ain't that ain't hot? And because
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: they know if they tell them, the artists might smack
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: shit at them, or they might just the artists might
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: call a label and be like, y'all don't like him, right.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: So people trying to be friends with people.
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: As opposed to like giving them creative criticism, and it's
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: not it's not helping the music, you know what I mean?
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: I I it's crazy as I was working with so
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: many artists during this album, and the artists coming to
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: school and they're like, JD, don't don't just not produce me,
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: let me make me.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Sound the best. So it's artists out here that want
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: creative criticism.
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: I just think it's from the They gotta people gotta
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: get back to like making sure that that's their job.
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: And when you see a person, they understand that that's
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: what they supposed to get from you.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Every time, every time I see you and I talk
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: to you, I always ask you the same thing. I
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: feel like you're one of those hip hop people that
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: are underrated, right, that people forget about what you've done
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: and the lineage you put out there and the people.
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: That you brought out. Do you always feel that way?
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: And when do we?
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: When does JD tell his own story in a movie
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: form where you talk about the beginning, the artists you popped,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: the A and r's you you birth, the producerve you birth,
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: the sound you brought out? When does that happen? Because
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: people don't necessarily forget even to this day.
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: Sometimes I'm like, dam.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Jady did that one? So yeah, I mean, I don't know, man,
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: you know I can't.
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: I was thinking about this on the way up here today.
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: I was like, I'm gonna see what Charlamagne I get today.
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna get the.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Cool Charlamagne I'm gonna get there, you know what I mean.
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: With Charlaman, I'm gonna get But last time I was here,
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: I told y'all, y'all, ain't gonna have nobody come up
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: here that would have a number one record in the
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: same time that I did with the Money Long Record.
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: Right this time, I'm here and Billboard basically finally called me,
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: I mean named me the number one producer of the
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: twenty first century of hip.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Hoppin' on beat. So I feel like the tide is changing,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: It's like I saw a bust To say something at
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: his speech the other day, like it's timing. Man, when
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: God wants you to get your flowers, he gonna give
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: them to you, you don't rush it.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: So I've just been sitting back waiting.
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: I feel like everything that you're saying, it's gonna eventually come.
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: Because at the end of the day, when you look
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: at that list based on who I started with, ain't
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: none of them niggas even on the list, you know
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: what I mean, Like this a whole new list of
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: people that I'm going against based on who the guys
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: I came out with.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: So as long as I just keep doing what I'm doing.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: I'm not.
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: I mean, I think that is one of my most
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: proud accomplishments though, to make that list, because I feel
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: like for the first time people have to really like go.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: And see why.
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: And when you go see why, first of all, the
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: list that is not comprived of your heart and your stomach.
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: It's comprived of who has the most number ones in
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: the last twenty first century.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Them is facts, Like that's what I was telling the
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: last time we was up here.
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: When you start dealing with the stats, you know, it's
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: a different conversation. And I feel like if people start
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: having to have that conversation, then you know, the respect
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: has to change at that point.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen people like completely mad.
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: About Beyonce being at number five on that list, But Beyonce.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Actually produces these records.
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: She's telling the other people in the room, like just
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: what I want do a drop right here? Just you
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: know what I mean, that's production, So you know what
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: I mean. I mean, I've never been but I'm sure.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: I'm sure.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: But even with the versus conversation. I remember the versus
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: conversation and they played you, so I don't want to
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: say he's so little. But they made it seem like
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: at the time, puff was gonna wax you, right, and
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: you start thinking about the amount of records you produced
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: and the hits that you did, the records that you
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: writ that you wrote, that's why you were so like,
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: do this, let's let's do this. I mean, I'm sure
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: it will never happen, but is that the reason why
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: you was like I wanted you wanted to do it
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: so bad it was gonna happen.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I do.
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: I mean, and I want to do it here in
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: New York because I wanted, you know what I mean.
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: I feel like, I mean, I performed at the Tunnel,
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: I been in, I done, been in the ship storm
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: of hip hop.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: So it ain't none of that. Don't none of that
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: scare me, right at the end of the day.
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: And I feel like that's the only way at that
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: time that people were gonna realize, like, oh, this nigga's crazy, right,
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: because if you I can't keep saying it, you know
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: what I'm saying, it is what it is is at
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: this point if you ain't you know, I saw somebody say, oh,
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: yesterday when I said something about the female rappers like
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: I'm saying right now, and somebody come in and say, oh,
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: now you want to say something good about female rappers,
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: I'm like, damn, did I not get you out of brack?
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: I have the ability to talk about female rappers more
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: than anybody because I'm the one that took the chance
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: to even try to see if it were right.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: But people don't want to. They still want to fight it.
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: Like, so I'm like, whatever it is, what what's the motivation?
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: One of the only things I think about this list
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: when you look at this Billboard.
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: List, name the list. You can name the top five,
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: so people, but.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I'm only going to name top two, but you number one.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: And then when he I guess you was that's your protege, Michael,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: it's my part?
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, how did that.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: Make you feel?
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: I mean amazing?
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: Because you know, when you think about like what people
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: say about Mike, Michael Jordan and basketball, I always usually
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: they always talk about like, you can only be the
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: best on list if you can make other people better,
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: right than any business.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Right. I think that's the thing.
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: Like, so, I mean, half of them songs that put
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: Brian in there is the same songs that got me
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: up there.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: So it's like we make each other better.
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: So I mean, that's that's the focus that we have
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: when we work and the records that we do together
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: is just that's the focus. We have a goal amongst
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: us both And if he was lower on that list,
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: I'll be mad because I'm like, it ain't no way possible,
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: you know what I mean.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: He's been right there with me every step of the way.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: And I think too, when I think about Mariah Carey getting,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: you know, the accolade she got the other night at
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: the VMA, I don't know if that happens without you.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is Mariah had a
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: fantastic career, but that album was like a comeback album
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: that kind of solidified her forever.
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: I was talking to her about this before yesterday, and
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: I was saying, like, it would have happened without me,
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: but Mariah, listen, Mariah is such a New York hip
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: hop person that she wants to gravitate towards the shit
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: right as opposed to like promoting the Boys the Men record,
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: which was no song her first song of the decade, right,
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: she ain't even perform that song the other night, Like
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, like, she.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Got records that's bigger than the records I did. That.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: She just like, yeah, you know, we gonna red do
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: this tonight. This is what we're gonna do.
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: I listen. I love it because I'm a part of it.
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: But don't get it twisted. These songs is you know
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: what I mean? She got records that she could do.
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: That's like hero, you know what I mean? These songs
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: that's huge. That made her Mariah has sold thirty million
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: records before I even worked with her, you know what
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: I'm saying.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Like that charm Bracelet and then that was it was
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: that movie called I don't even remember that.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: It was a bad It was dark. Yeah, but one
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: one black eye can't kill you.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: No, that's true.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: But then you came back to the mass vision of me,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: and that's that's a nuclear bomb.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: I mean that's not.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: A normal album.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: I just I always look at that like, I'm really
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: I can't take credit for Mariah.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: She's She's who she is.
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: And she was who she was before I you know,
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: I'm just happy that she let me be a part
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: of the ride.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I think that puts more pressure on you, though, And
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: what I mean by that is when you're tasked with
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: going in there with the iconic person already and creating
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: something that gets them, you know, back scene the way
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: that they were seeing before that, you know, last flop,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: that says a lot that you was able to accomplish that.
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: Then to put pressure on me, I would think so
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: back then, nah, because I don't think about it like
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: you know, Like the thing about is when I go
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: in to studio people, I don't be like, I don't
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: get caught up on what's happening in their life. And
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: I think that that was what was going on in
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: her life outside of the studio. I go in the
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: studio and I'm like, I say this all the time
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: when I when I work with Aretha Franklin, she made
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: me realize, like, listen, if you're gonna be in here
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: working and I'm.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Gonna pay you and we're gonna let you get this credit.
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: You better say what the fuck you gotta say If
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: I sound bad, if I don't even sound halfway good,
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: she was like, tell me to do it again. And
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: I'm like, I can't tell Aretha Franklin, nothing like this
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: will Rita Franklin. But the way she was talking to
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: me was like I flew you here to Detroit to
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: cut my vocals. So what you're gonna do, You're gonna
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: sit in the here and there and watch me? Or
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: if that's I'm going home. That's what she told me.
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: She says, literally, I'm going home, that's what you're gonna do.
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: And that's when I set that for me and I'm like,
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: you know what, I gotta do this. I just gotta
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: be brutally honest with artists. And when it came to
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: mancipation to me me we belong together. We made the
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: song like listen, Marian, if you don't hit the note
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: that this song at the end of the record, the
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: record ain't gonna be what people want the record to be.
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: They want you to that's that's what they want. We
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: gotta give them what they want. And it was like
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: nobody else wanted to say this. I had to say it,
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: and I have to be like, you know, if you
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: don't like me for saying what is real? Then while
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: we in the room together, what was one.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: Of the artists that didn't like you being brutal Lyannes?
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: I was like, nah, it's not for me.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Nobody. I don't think nobody.
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: I mean I think everybody want they don't want to
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: address it, but when it's right, they're like, oh, okay,
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: you know, but a lot of.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Them like, you know, bout I didn't like. Oh, I
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: think they like me.
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: Usher didn't seem like you wrestle with him every time.
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: You're understand that's what balance.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: But I'm saying Usher didn't like you make me want
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: to And you have to sit there and be like, man,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: why what do you what are you listening to that
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: make you not like this song?
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: So what did you say that Mariah Carrey when she
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: didn't do that the last note at the end, right,
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: the note that everybody tries to sing, did you call
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: her back like, hey, I need you to do the Like.
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: What's crazy is we had six hours to do we
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: belonging together.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: She came to Atlanta, We did everything in the song
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: except for that note.
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: Right, the song was finished, and I kept saying, Mariah,
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: when you do the you know, because she also was
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: gonna sing her vocals when she came back, and I
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: just kept saying, when you sing the vocals, make sure
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: you end the.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Song with this note.
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: And it wasn't there, It wasn't in there, and it
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: was just like you had to say it or not.
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: I had to feel like I felt like I had
• 34:30
  Speaker 6: to keep saying it before she left me because I
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: wasn't gonna be there with her. And sometimes you know,
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: artists want to be cool and like Mariah is like
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: a singer that don't that can.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Really sing, but she's a rapper.
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: She want to be like she want to do rapper shit,
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: so she don't actually be wanting to like show you
• 34:49
  Speaker 6: how well she can sing no more. And I'm like, no,
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: show these niggas you could really fucking sing. They can't,
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: by the way, So you have to do that. You
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: have to tell her because she'll get she's a rapper.
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: I told this, I told her this other.
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: How many times? You know how many times did she
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: have to do that? Last note her?
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: I don't think she had to do that.
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: I mean, it don't take her long when she's when
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: she's in that mold, but just last Yeah, they don't
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: take one time.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: It don't take them.
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: Mariah's she's she's flawless when she want to be. But
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: like I said, she's so New York. I'm telling you,
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: like the first time I went to work when Mariah I.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Came here I ain't know what to expect.
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: She walked in the studio and she laid the CD
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: on the desk and it was the Wu Tang Cream
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: and she was like, I want you to sample this.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: This is what I'm singing over. And I'm like, nah,
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: I'm not doing it.
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: I'm not because I start thinking about like you already
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: successful and you think I'm getting ready to be the
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: nigga that's gonna put cream under you and make you
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: We're not doing that.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: I'm not doing that right. But I quickly learned who
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: she was, Like she just told us that story, like
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: she's that's who she is.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: No, somebody told that story about Mariah wanted to sing
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: over cream?
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Who was it?
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: Mike literally just.
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: Told us that's that's that's the thing. Like right now,
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: she put out a song where she's over for president,
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: She's New York to the call.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: What was it about the emancipation of me me that
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: got her back to where she needed to be? Was
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: it the freedom that maybe you provided because I started
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: brat telling this story about how Tommy Matola got guns
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: pulled on you because you let.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: Mariah go to burden.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: I didn't let them do nothing.
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: They pulled off and went on their own. But yeah,
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: we'll tell the story. I don't know the story, Okay.
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: So the first time I started working with Mariah, I
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: decided to do it. Always be my baby remix, right,
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: So I brought Escape and the Brat to her house
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: that was out in upstate with her and Tommy. And
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: this was the first time me I started bringing my
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: people around Mariah and I brought Brat.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Her and Brat kicked it. They hit it off, and.
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: She convinced Brat or either Bratt convinced her let's take
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: a trip in the car, just me and you and
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: go to McDonald's or some more.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Ship left the ground without me knowing, and.
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: Niggas showed up in the studio like what's going on.
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: I'm like, I seen motherfuckers running around like and it
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: always looking at me like JD, this is your person.
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: She done ran off with Mariah and I'm like, what
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: the fuck? Like that was a crazy moment. This is
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: my first time being there, this is my first time
• 37:27
  Speaker 6: at her house, and I bring some niggas over.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: This was just like a story. You bring some niggas
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: over to the house and this is what happened, And
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: I'm in the house like this, like, I'm just trying
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: to make a record. Man, what the fuck is going
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: on where you're at? Yeah? I called her. She's like,
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: we just getting some fries and I'm like what, why? Why?
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: And she was saying that MARIAJH.
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: Just like at that period of time, Mariah was, you know,
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: this was a different type of success life at this
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: point celebrity. She wasn't the artist that could go outside
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: and go to McDonald's or she wasn't even doing that.
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: Like she was sheltered and house and she she just
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: wanted to get out and Brat was her her person
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: that was ready to go escape and do it.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: So was it that level of freedom you provided her?
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm called the emancipatient.
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, A me, nah, Just I just think I think
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: I make Mariah comfortable, right and I don't.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: I don't fake with her about the music that we
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: should make. And I think that's what makes her feel free,
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: you know, free because I'm telling her, I'm telling anybody,
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: if you sing, make singing records man like, and like,
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: I get it, you want to rap And I'm a
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: rapper at heart, but I learned how to make music.
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: And I learned through the success that I've had that
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: these people want these records to sound like the records
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: that they know. The audience don't change, right, So I
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: just have to keep beating that in people's minds and
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: letting them know, like, listen, you might want to change
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: your shit up, but the person that's listening, they want
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: the new Mariah record to sound like the Mariah record
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: that they heard before.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: And that's always a hard fight with artists.
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: Did you ever take the Magic City?
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah? No, no, no, no, she won't. She won't. She
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: probably won't go to that. That ain't her That ain't
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: her bag.
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: Now back to Usher, you said she didn't like make
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: me want to? Yeah, why not? What was the problem
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: with that?
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know?
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: And how did you get him? How did you force
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: him to finally do it?
• 39:17
  Speaker 6: Well, I mean I have to force him, but he
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: also he just let me know it wasn't like, that
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: wasn't what he felt he should be coming with. At
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: this point in time, Usher was still not sure where
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: his career was gonna go. So he's still cut the song, luckily,
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: but if we was in that space right now, he's
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: not gonna cut the song right now.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: He ain't gonna be like, I don't fuck.
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: With that song right now. He don't care if he
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: don't like it.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: It's not even gonna get cut even now.
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: Right now, I would trust you to not he's gonna
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: be like, that's right now. I'd be like, yo, Usher,
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: please cut this song.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Us should turn his phone off.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Like, when you look at this new generation of Atlanta rappers,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: do you feel they understand the history of the city sound.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: It's all about what's hot? Right? Well? I think they do,
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: but I don't think they respected.
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: From a level of why how high you should be
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: holding it right because a lot of people in Atlanta
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: still don't understand the how we even got to where
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: we are, right. I did an interview the other day
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: like about no First of the Month or something like
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: that with big facts right and Bank was saying, you know,
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: JD niggas in Atlanta used to think you wanted to
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: be from New York. And it's funny because it wasn't
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: that I wanted to be from New York. It's just
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: this is where hip hop lives, and this is where
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: hip hop was at and it wasn't hip hop nor
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: no hip hop in Atlanta, right. It wasn't no place
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: in Atlanta that even gave me what I felt was
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: I was getting when I came to the city and
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: I wasn't getting anything.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: I was treated like I wasn't even supposed to be here.
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: But still I was looking at people doing what I
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: wanted to do, right, So I'm like, Yo, we gotta
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: get We got to figure out how to get this going.
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: So he was telling me that when I did Money
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: and a Thing, that it felt like I wanted to
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: be from New York as opposed I also, I wanted
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: to be the first nigga from Atlanta to make a
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: record with a nigga from Brooklyn that everybody kept claiming
• 41:19
  Speaker 6: was gonna be who he came who he became to be.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: And I don't think people.
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: Understand that move as much as they want to try
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: to make it seem like I want to be from
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: New York. I was trying to be the first person
• 41:34
  Speaker 6: to push us forward and make sure that Atlanta exists
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: the way it does in hip hop.
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: Did you have to pay hold for that record? How
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: did that record come about? Money? In a day?
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: I had to?
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: I mean, it was my idea from the Jump and
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: he took it and put it on his album once
• 41:50
  Speaker 6: it started popping.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: So you know, we just we're just an even swap.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: So who when you when you talk, I loved I
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: loved these Atlanta stories and I really feel like Atlanta
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: story still hasn't been told.
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: It should have.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm glad you did the Freak Nick Dog
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: and y'all got the Magic City Doc. When you think
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: of Atlanta, who should really get the credit for introducing
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: the world to Atlanta hip hop?
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: Me?
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Outcast?
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: Outcast was calling so so death trying to get signed,
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: Like I think, I think, you know, one of the
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: things that that we have to really start doing is
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: in dealing with me. And that's where it goes, like
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: people start moving the goal posters that Chris Cross was
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: the first rap crew from Atlanta to sell over to
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: three four million records, point blank, ain't no if and
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: buts about it, right. But when we start having a
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: conversation about Chris Cross, people start trying to make it
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: seem like it's kitty rap.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: But then when I started saying something about me making
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: a record, the niggas starts saying, jade o g it's.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: A young man game. If it's a young man game.
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: Then give it to the young man who started the
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: ship for the city, right. But when you ask for
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: that credit, niggas try to make it seem like nah nah, nah.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Nah, it can't be these kids.
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: But that don't make sense, right it don't you one
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: minute it's for the kids, then the next minute the kids.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: You don't want to get the kids to credit.
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: And I think that's the biggest mistake in Atlanta h
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: hip hop is that niggas don't give Crisscross the credit
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: for pushing the door open. Like t I definitely says
• 43:23
  Speaker 6: that he started rapping because he saw Criscross and he
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: realized that he didn't have to be old. He didn't
• 43:30
  Speaker 6: have to be twenty five years old to make a record.
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: He saw some little niggas from his hood making music
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: and he was.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Like, I can do it. Right. Even Killer Mike says
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: the same thing.
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: And I feel like, you know, you got a couple
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: of people that like these guys that say it, But
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: the rest of the city, if you start having conversation
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: about it, it's always who who started at first. Criscross
• 43:48
  Speaker 6: came out way before outcasts, you know what I'm saying,
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: and they sold eight million records the first album.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: You can't just not talk about that.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: What's the biggest differ between being a music mogul in
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: the nineties versus in one now.
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: They don't look the same.
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they don't look the same. And I think that
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: the difference now is that it just ain't a bunch,
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: That's what it is. That's the ultimate difference. Because we
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: all learned from everybody. I learned most of everything that
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: I started doing from Russell, you know what I mean,
• 44:20
  Speaker 6: just seeing Russell Simmons do what he was doing.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: Andre Horrel rest in peace, just everybody.
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: You know, we had, We had books of people that
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: we could look at and read their book and be like, Okay,
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: if I'm gonna do it, I want to do it
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: like this. If I'm gonna have this company, I'm gonna
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: have it like this. We don't have that no more. Right,
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: we don't have that no more. And I need it,
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, Even me, I need it.
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: So it's therefore it's like I mean, at least I
• 44:47
  Speaker 6: always used it. I might be that person that people
• 44:49
  Speaker 6: look at this point, but I'm saying, for the most part,
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: we don't have these guys that's out here that you
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: could actually look at and be like, Okay, I want
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: to have I want to even like Jay Prince, Ay
• 45:00
  Speaker 6: Prince was doing what he was doing in Houston.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: They not doing that no more in Houston, right, So
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: the niggas ain't Houston.
• 45:05
  Speaker 6: Only nobody like patting what they're doing off and nobody
• 45:09
  Speaker 6: they can talk about it, but you don't see nobody
• 45:11
  Speaker 6: coming out of Houston.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: It's like the new j Prince. That's true, you know.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: I mean it's interesting too it Atlanta because you always
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: repeat yourself when you think about all the different sounds
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: that have come out of Atlanta now. But I love
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Metro booming out and stuff you got on the on
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: the Magic City soundtracks sound like that too. Why is
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: that era it seemed like coming back?
• 45:29
  Speaker 6: Well, I mean mine is because it's connected to the dock, right.
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: I think Metro them was on the something that was
• 45:35
  Speaker 6: just like they felt like, like I said, I don't
• 45:38
  Speaker 6: know where these girls, what mindset these female rappers was
• 45:43
  Speaker 6: in when they started, but they started taking these old
• 45:46
  Speaker 6: records and remaking new records on top of them. So
• 45:49
  Speaker 6: like all these atoven beats, that's the Pluto song when
• 45:52
  Speaker 6: Wami was a zatoven beat right.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Like I said, the girl bank Roll Now that I
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: worked with, she got a bunch.
• 45:59
  Speaker 6: Of these records that they they're taking all of these
• 46:02
  Speaker 6: older records and they putting new records on this. So
• 46:04
  Speaker 6: I think the feel of it when they when you
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: start seeing that, that feels like okay. You know, everybody
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: that make music always try to get into the tempo
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: and what's gonna go with the next song.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: As a producer, I mean, that's what I do.
• 46:19
  Speaker 6: So if you're listening to oh I think they like
• 46:22
  Speaker 6: me beat, and somebody come on with a new song
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: that your your next move is to damn.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: To make a record that sound like leaning with it.
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: Rock with is just automatic because you can't just come
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: with a song that you can't just blow by and
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: be like, I ain't paying attention to that tempo.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Let's do something else.
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: No, that ain't. That ain't never been hip hop. So
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: I just think that it's.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Just a wave.
• 46:42
  Speaker 6: Like I said, these girls they started and I just
• 46:44
  Speaker 6: feel like you're seeing people just follow the wave.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be address that take me through their record. Yeah,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: with that with that influences, Yeah.
• 46:52
  Speaker 6: But I'm saying that's why k THO. Yeah, So I
• 46:55
  Speaker 6: mean that's that's what I'm saying. It's like it's it's
• 46:57
  Speaker 6: just it's just they wave and people just they started it.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: Now we talked about a lot of stuff that you've
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: done in your history. What's left that you mayne wants
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: to do that he hasn't done yet, Like because you
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: didn't did everything, you didn't did docu series, you didn't
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: did produce for every decade, what's left that you want
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: to do that's like this is the last thing I
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: want to do, or this is something I want to do.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: Just continue, man.
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: I think that, Like it's a lot of stuff that
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: I did that I didn't know what I was doing right,
• 47:24
  Speaker 6: and so it was like go back and do it
• 47:26
  Speaker 6: in a way now that I know. Like when I
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: came up here and talked about the Rap Game, I
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: ain't know what that show was going to be.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: I ain't know a lot of it was gonna come
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: from that show. I ain't know.
• 47:35
  Speaker 6: I don't know what was going to happen. Right now,
• 47:38
  Speaker 6: I know now people know that show would be accepted,
• 47:42
  Speaker 6: you know, and received so much better now.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: Because people it wasn't accepted back then, like like I
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: think it would be now.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: It's proven though.
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just really just like like I said, a
• 47:51
  Speaker 6: lot of the stuff is like I'm the first to
• 47:53
  Speaker 6: like step out here and see what's going on, and
• 47:56
  Speaker 6: you don't even know what's happening. And once it worked,
• 47:59
  Speaker 6: if you come back and do it again, it's like, oh, Okay,
• 48:02
  Speaker 6: now people fucking with this, and they might do it.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: But that's a lot of the stuff.
• 48:05
  Speaker 6: I just you know, I was just like, you know,
• 48:07
  Speaker 6: like even like the Division I signed Division, and the
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: first album that I did with Division, I jumped out
• 48:13
  Speaker 6: here with a song called if I Get Caught, and
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: you know, their fan base was a little like that,
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: Ain't we.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Donna fuck with that? Right?
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: I was just trying to make records and get them
• 48:23
  Speaker 6: guys popular because I felt like they too good to
• 48:27
  Speaker 6: be such a box group, and they also wanted that song,
• 48:32
  Speaker 6: So I'm not gonna just say I pushed it on them.
• 48:33
  Speaker 6: But at the same time, I learned in that process
• 48:37
  Speaker 6: they got a fan base, right, and they make love music,
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: and you can't come out with a group that make
• 48:44
  Speaker 6: love music. Talking about if I get caught cheating, that
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: just is not gonna It's gonna be a crash.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: So this new project, we put out.
• 48:52
  Speaker 6: Two new records last week, and all I see is
• 48:56
  Speaker 6: people online saying, this is the division we wanted.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: This is what I'm talking about, you know, Joe Budden's
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: so you just learned. I just learned. So I don't know.
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: I feel like, you know, I had a look at
• 49:05
  Speaker 6: the things that I feel like I'm not I didn't
• 49:08
  Speaker 6: know what I was doing totally, and then just come
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: back and do it again and try to make it
• 49:12
  Speaker 6: right right the way that I feel like it should
• 49:15
  Speaker 6: have been the first time.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: What's the hardest personal sacrifice you've made for your career life.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: I don't really have no life. I just be making music,
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
• 49:25
  Speaker 6: And I have people that tell me this all the time, like,
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: jad you know, you don't really you My baby mother's
• 49:31
  Speaker 6: be saying it's like, you know, you your life is
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: the music. All you do is care about the music.
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: All you care about is putting out records. All you
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: care about is doing what you're doing every day. And
• 49:40
  Speaker 6: that's the truth, it is, That's what it is. I
• 49:42
  Speaker 6: don't care about nothing else.
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: You enjoy the money on go on vacation.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: I mean that come along with it, but it ain't.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: That's that's not a chase for me.
• 49:49
  Speaker 6: Like my chase is to be you know, like what
• 49:52
  Speaker 6: they said on the Billboard, I get number one, I
• 49:55
  Speaker 6: feel like I feel like I finally did something by
• 49:57
  Speaker 6: getting number one on that list.
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: But that it's never enough because more not now.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: It's like it's but it's also like fighting.
• 50:03
  Speaker 6: It's like boxing, you gotta you gotta can you can
• 50:07
  Speaker 6: you stay in that space?
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: Right? You know what I'm saying.
• 50:10
  Speaker 6: It's like watching Floyd and Tyson tug while they gonna fight.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: It's like Floyd retired, but he still want to be
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: the He wants to be the best. You know what
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. It's like I'm not saying I'm retired. I'm
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: out here.
• 50:23
  Speaker 6: So I just know that, you know, Like I also
• 50:26
  Speaker 6: know that it's space in hip hop and R and
• 50:29
  Speaker 6: B that hasn't been touched. What I'm doing, going from
• 50:33
  Speaker 6: ninety two and being becoming the number one producer the
• 50:37
  Speaker 6: twenty first century in twenty twenty five ain't been seen
• 50:41
  Speaker 6: ever ever, Right, So if you start doing shit that
• 50:45
  Speaker 6: ain't never been seen. You don't have no reason. I
• 50:46
  Speaker 6: don't have no reason to stop. I just gotta, you know,
• 50:49
  Speaker 6: pray to God that don't stop.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: It's funny. I wonder if hip hop had limits you
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: may do for you.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is when people start
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: talking about, yo, who's the greatest producers of all time,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: They'll start a bunch of people who do a lot
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: of hip hop records. Right, But you gotta just say
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Jamaine is a musician. If you if you said Jamaine
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: is is just a musical producer, then I think the
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: conversation is a little bit different.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:12
  Speaker 6: I mean it's hard, man, because I feel like I
• 51:16
  Speaker 6: switched from people. I switch up on people so much
• 51:20
  Speaker 6: when I'm in R and B mode, I'm not telling
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: about no rap, right. I remember one time I came
• 51:24
  Speaker 6: up here and I was so R and B and
• 51:25
  Speaker 6: out and I want, I'm waving the flag for R
• 51:28
  Speaker 6: and B and I ain't talking about nothing rap. I
• 51:31
  Speaker 6: think that confuses the podcast and the guys that usually
• 51:37
  Speaker 6: talk to me about they like, wait a minute, I
• 51:39
  Speaker 6: thought this nigga was money anything. And you you know
• 51:42
  Speaker 6: what I mean, Magic City, this niggas over tell me
• 51:45
  Speaker 6: you want to make division.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: Records, you know what I mean?
• 51:47
  Speaker 6: I think that that that throws the whole thing off
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: because I do switch. I mean, that's how That's the
• 51:53
  Speaker 6: only way I can do it. That's the only way
• 51:54
  Speaker 6: I can make it is to get away from, you know,
• 51:57
  Speaker 6: from one thing for a minute and go into that
• 51:59
  Speaker 6: space and be one in that space.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: Is there a media bias even towards the South, But
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: I think about that with the producers and the artists.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: There's some artists from the South who should be getting
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: mentioned its top lyricists all the time. Some producers from
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: the South should be getting mentioned this to us.
• 52:13
  Speaker 6: I just think that, and I want to I want
• 52:15
  Speaker 6: to get I want to show Bank a shout out
• 52:19
  Speaker 6: because I feel like his interview with.
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: Doug Fantastic pushes Brilliant.
• 52:23
  Speaker 6: Finally somebody in Atlanta to the forefront of hip hop
• 52:28
  Speaker 6: media in the city of Atlanta. And I think it's
• 52:31
  Speaker 6: taken thirty years for somebody in the city of Atlanta
• 52:35
  Speaker 6: to be the person that you have to sit down
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: and talk to if you that guy in hip hop,
• 52:41
  Speaker 6: and he just made himself that person.
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: If you asked, I'm glad. I'm saying that. I said
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: it on the air.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: Regional identity matters in media and everything, and Atlanta has
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: been the hip hop capital for so long, but has
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: never had that media Prince Luther Gray screening on, but
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: they've never had that person You've got to go.
• 53:00
  Speaker 6: And I think that's the problem, is like every time
• 53:02
  Speaker 6: somebody from Atlanta that's.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: Popped, they always had to come to New York.
• 53:06
  Speaker 6: And no disrespect, but I've been saying it should have
• 53:09
  Speaker 6: been somebody that did what he did with Future Ludacris
• 53:14
  Speaker 6: w TI.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: I got out of jail.
• 53:16
  Speaker 6: We know had so many artists that had so many
• 53:18
  Speaker 6: stories or they missed the opportunity like what just happened
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: with Doug because we don't have that person in the city,
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: and that just that goes to the culture like people
• 53:27
  Speaker 6: should Like I just saw the magazine out there with
• 53:29
  Speaker 6: you on the front covered Variety. I've never seen that
• 53:31
  Speaker 6: before right in Atlanta. I don't think young people read
• 53:35
  Speaker 6: and see things like that to push them to say, you.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Know what, I'm wanna do what Charlamage doing? Man? I
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: want to do what Envy doing?
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: He got a call show, Like they don't see that
• 53:45
  Speaker 6: enough to distract them. All they see is JD throwing
• 53:49
  Speaker 6: money and this nigga throwing money them nigga rapping Niggas'm
• 53:52
  Speaker 6: gonna be. I'm gonna be a rapper. Nah, you ain't
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: gotta be no rapper.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Bank getting ready to hit
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: the bank.
• 53:58
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, based on the way he
• 54:00
  Speaker 6: just did that one interview, As far as I'm concerned,
• 54:03
  Speaker 6: if he do what he gotta do and he keep
• 54:05
  Speaker 6: it at that level and the way he talked to him,
• 54:08
  Speaker 6: it makes you gonna have people that really want to
• 54:10
  Speaker 6: sit down and like, let you interview him the same
• 54:12
  Speaker 6: way you did.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: And Big Facts has already been that platform to me, right,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: And then now to see Bank doing the perspective with banks, yeah,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: I agree with that.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: But it took thirty years, That's what I'm saying.
• 54:21
  Speaker 6: Took thirty years for somebody to say, this is what
• 54:26
  Speaker 6: we need, I'm gonna do it like this, right, And
• 54:29
  Speaker 6: I'm really happy to see that. I feel like that's
• 54:31
  Speaker 6: gonna turn that's gonna change the city, because that's gonna people.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Somebody gonna see.
• 54:36
  Speaker 6: That and they gonna create another one. Right, and at
• 54:38
  Speaker 6: that point, that world will open up.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: Because when I came here, I think the beginning of me.
• 54:44
  Speaker 6: Talking about Magic City, I was like, Yo, everybody in
• 54:47
  Speaker 6: New York got a fucking podcast. I mean everywhere I went,
• 54:51
  Speaker 6: everybody got podcasts cluing him. Got one across the street
• 54:53
  Speaker 6: in a little bar, everybody fat Joe them. I was
• 54:57
  Speaker 6: going to all of them. I mean, carmeloed them out
• 54:59
  Speaker 6: of Brooklyn. It's a podcast everywhere. I was just like this,
• 55:03
  Speaker 6: this this bug ain't hit Atlanta yet.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: N They got him in Atlanta because you got Big Facts,
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: you got Bank, got eighty five South shows in Atlanta.
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: You got Pull Mind podcast based out of Atlanta.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: Four y'all have about twenty out there, you know, I
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: mean you know what I mean.
• 55:18
  Speaker 6: It's just and they moving. Y'all got y'all got twenty
• 55:21
  Speaker 6: out here, that's moving. I'm just saying, these guys that
• 55:24
  Speaker 6: you like the eighty five South show, I think that's
• 55:26
  Speaker 6: probably the closest next.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: But after that, it ain't no real Like, ain't nobody
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: you gotta.
• 55:31
  Speaker 6: Talk to Big You ain't got to talk to them,
• 55:35
  Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying. I'm just talking about as far
• 55:37
  Speaker 6: as like, if you want of these people, I feel
• 55:40
  Speaker 6: like we don't have we ain't had nobody that you
• 55:44
  Speaker 6: have to talk to, Like if they was like call
• 55:46
  Speaker 6: me Carla wrec compan they like jo Ja Man, who
• 55:48
  Speaker 6: you wanna have a in.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: Depth conversation with your name? Your name is gonna come up?
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: And then who's the competitor to Charlemagne in Atlanta?
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: From Atlanta to you know put in?
• 56:02
  Speaker 6: So I just feel like I feel like Bank put
• 56:04
  Speaker 6: himself in the category to get you know, the Gucci mans,
• 56:08
  Speaker 6: all of these people that we want.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: To hearing Bank right now, Gunna should be calling Bank
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: like I need to come sit down with you and
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: just to read that.
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: They reply.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, but it ain't even like.
• 56:21
  Speaker 6: It's just like I said, he just made it where
• 56:26
  Speaker 6: like Oprah Winfrey, like you want to watch it, you
• 56:29
  Speaker 6: want to hear it. And he's not gonna hold back
• 56:31
  Speaker 6: on the questions. And he's creditable in that category to
• 56:36
  Speaker 6: where you can't run.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: No bullshit on him. Is he gonna let you know
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: you running some bullshit?
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: That's what I love. He was He wasn't afraid to
• 56:43
  Speaker 5: push back.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: Nah.
• 56:43
  Speaker 6: But I mean, but he don't have no that's him.
• 56:46
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying he wanted He the guy
• 56:48
  Speaker 6: that told me when I said, He's like, Jad, we
• 56:50
  Speaker 6: thought you you want you want to be from New York.
• 56:52
  Speaker 6: That's who told me that, right, And I'm like, nah,
• 56:54
  Speaker 6: I wasn't trying to be from New York. I'm trying
• 56:56
  Speaker 6: to just push my music. And I just feel like,
• 56:59
  Speaker 6: like I said I part them on that interview, he
• 57:01
  Speaker 6: did it.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: They have two more questions. What's the one misconception about
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: JD that you wish people would.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Let go of.
• 57:09
  Speaker 6: That I'm anything like any of these other people that
• 57:12
  Speaker 6: we talk about. I don't do none of the the
• 57:18
  Speaker 6: people talking about they got a case with Chris krusting it.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: I don't do none of that. Ship all that shit. People,
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I ain't got time for all that.
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: I make music, Right, If you want to talk about music,
• 57:29
  Speaker 6: then that's what we talk about. If you want to
• 57:30
  Speaker 6: talk about all this other bullshit that's going on in
• 57:32
  Speaker 6: the world, I'm not your guy for free costs whatever
• 57:36
  Speaker 6: you want to call it, like not freaks. I think
• 57:38
  Speaker 6: like you know, like you know, they got like transporting
• 57:41
  Speaker 6: kids and all this type of shit going on out
• 57:43
  Speaker 6: here now. And just I feel like because we have
• 57:47
  Speaker 6: seen so many people do and get in trouble for things.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: You know, It's like, well, JD part of that system.
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: Too, JD. I ain't never hear bullshit.
• 57:56
  Speaker 6: Nah, But I'm saying like that. I mean, you know,
• 58:00
  Speaker 6: I'm around long time, but I'm just from saying I'm not.
• 58:04
  Speaker 6: I don't I don't have no reason to be doing that,
• 58:06
  Speaker 6: Like I don't have no reason to do it. And
• 58:08
  Speaker 6: I think a lot of people don't understand. Like a
• 58:10
  Speaker 6: lot of my success I was with Janet, you know
• 58:13
  Speaker 6: what I'm saying, Like I had, I was the first
• 58:15
  Speaker 6: nigga to be out here doing that besides Bobby and Whitney,
• 58:18
  Speaker 6: you know what I mean. Me and Janet was together
• 58:20
  Speaker 6: before Jay and Hole. I mean Jay and b actually
• 58:22
  Speaker 6: really announced it. So I was kind of like pushed
• 58:26
  Speaker 6: to the side, like a boyfriend type of dude that
• 58:28
  Speaker 6: was like just making music. So I don't know, I
• 58:31
  Speaker 6: just think I think that's the one. I think people
• 58:33
  Speaker 6: just they want me to be in that shit, but
• 58:36
  Speaker 6: I'm not going in that direction.
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you wanted a few.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: It seems like yo, you jay Z, like y'all planes
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: are landing with the wheels out of the lot people
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: planes did not land with the wheels.
• 58:48
  Speaker 6: I mean, well, I had this conversation with Chad because
• 58:51
  Speaker 6: chad Ellie shout out to chad Elle, that's my best friend.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: And we've been friends since I was twelve thirteen, and
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: we was talking about the list of Billboard list and
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: we started out in the garage.
• 59:02
  Speaker 6: I used to live with him in Brooklyn Easton Parkway,
• 59:05
  Speaker 6: and we was we used to make you know, we
• 59:07
  Speaker 6: go buy records and we ain't know what he's doing.
• 59:09
  Speaker 6: Was just trying to make beats and we ain't have
• 59:11
  Speaker 6: no drum machines. We just used to use our imagination.
• 59:14
  Speaker 6: And I was telling him about it other night. Was
• 59:17
  Speaker 6: I was like, yo, we got a toast. I'm number
• 59:19
  Speaker 6: one producer, right And he was like, man, just sitting
• 59:23
  Speaker 6: here think about it made me want to cry because
• 59:25
  Speaker 6: it's like what we went through for me to even
• 59:28
  Speaker 6: be in that space, I don't think people even realize.
• 59:31
  Speaker 6: So it's just like, I'm all all I focus on
• 59:36
  Speaker 6: is that man just trying to be I'm a I'm
• 59:38
  Speaker 6: a you know, I'm trying to be the top of
• 59:40
  Speaker 6: the top of the game and I made it.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: I'm just trying to stay in that space.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: When your name is mentioned fifty years from now, what's
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: the one record or one artist you want to define
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: your legacy.
• 59:53
  Speaker 6: I don't know who the artist is. Somebody great, I
• 59:56
  Speaker 6: mean I think, you know, I think like watching Mariah
• 59:59
  Speaker 6: get Van Gold Award and her performing in that piece
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 6: to records that I did, I think that means that
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 6: means a lot, you know what I mean, like almost
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 6: like you're saying, it's like my records a loud enough
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 6: to make people damnar believe that I had something to
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 6: do with her success.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: And that's a that's a that's a to me, that's.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 6: A mean accomplishment because I didn't have anything to do
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 6: with her becoming who she is.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: That's not true. That's not true. I mean because it's
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: a second wave.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm saying I think I think I might
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 6: have made more black people like her, Yes, but she
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 6: still Rode Carrett.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it says something you me. I mean, I
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: mean the best album I get it me me is
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: Brod Carey's best album. Absolutely, that's probably.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: The definitive album of her whole career. That's her thriller.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: It is.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 6: I don't know, I don't know. Run well, Yeah, I
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 6: mean before I go, I got an album. I think
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 6: my album's coming out on Friday. Yeah, I think because
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 6: I've been I had a lot of sample clearance issues.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 6: We're supposed to come out last Friday to go with
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 6: the doc, but I'm hoping it comes out this Friday
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 6: because this is the last episode of Magic City this Friday,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 6: so we're trying to make sure the album comes out
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 6: and I'm supposed to turn it in by four o'clock.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: So that's what my running is, all right, that's what
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: my phone is doing.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: Well JD Jamain Dupre may make you check out the
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: Magic City Dock and of course the album.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: We appreciate you always for joining us.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: It's the Breakfast Club's j.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: Hold every day a week ago. Click your ass up
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: the Breakfast Club. You're finished for y'all done it.