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Lions-Bills Preview, Deshaun Watson CALLS OUT Browns media, Joe Burrow’s Injury + NFL Week 2 Mailbag · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: The Volume. What is going on, my people? John Middlecoff,
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: Three and Out Podcast. Opening of the Bill Stadium night,
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  Speaker 1: playing the Lions. Excellent Thursday night game, on paper at least.
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  Speaker 1: You never know how these things shake out. We'll dive
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  Speaker 1: into some thoughts on this new stadium, the ending of
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  Speaker 1: a world that was with the old just about football venues,
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  Speaker 1: and talk about the game, some other nuggets from the week,
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  Speaker 1: some injuries, Deshaun Watson, another quote. We will do some
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  Speaker 1: mailbag questions as well, at John Middlecoff, at John Middlecoff
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  Speaker 1: is the Instagram, fire in those DMs, get your questions
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  Speaker 1: answered here on the show. That'll be it. And we'll
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  Speaker 1: have another podcast out tomorrow. We'll react to the Thursday
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: night game, talk about the weekend. Lane Kiffin Ole Miss,
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  Speaker 1: that's a pretty good one. Probably the best game by
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  Speaker 1: far this weekend, on Saturday at least. And, yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: before we dive into anything, you guys know the drill.
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  Speaker 1: And let's just talk a little Bill's Lions. I did
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  Speaker 1: want to start with the explosion and the trend of
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  Speaker 1: these new stadiums. And all these cold weather teams leaning
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  Speaker 1: into the domes. leaning into these high-tech kind of operations.
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  Speaker 1: Jerry did it 25, or not even that long ago,
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  Speaker 1: 20-plus years ago. SoFi Stadium is like the one in
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  Speaker 1: Dallas on steroids. From this Buffalo one to Kansas City
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  Speaker 1: to Cleveland, they all want to take away The outdoor element,
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  Speaker 1: which from a business standpoint, I understand you can host
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  Speaker 1: concerts and different events in the offseason, in the winter,
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  Speaker 1: which they currently cannot. Stan Kroenke has the best of
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  Speaker 1: both worlds. He's in LA, so the weather never gets
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  Speaker 1: that bad. On their worst day, it's like a fall
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  Speaker 1: day in some of these other places. but he can
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  Speaker 1: host year-round, and that's where you make a lot of money.
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  Speaker 1: And I get it, right? I mean, the new stadiums
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  Speaker 1: with the suites, the revenue for these teams, the more
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  Speaker 1: cash for them, and in theory, the more they can
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  Speaker 1: invest into their team, get more aggressive, the expenses are higher.
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  Speaker 1: But call me a sap. Like, I'm not one to
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  Speaker 1: really hold on to the past. But I do enjoy
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  Speaker 1: looking at the rearview mirror every once in a while.
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  Speaker 1: Or thinking about what was. And thinking how enjoyable it was. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I get a little nostalgic when I see something on
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  Speaker 1: Instagram about the 90s. We're never going back. And listen,
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  Speaker 1: I directly benefit from modern day world and technology. Right?
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  Speaker 1: And what I do for a living. So I'm not
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  Speaker 1: complaining by any means. But there was something. And I
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  Speaker 1: didn't grow up going to NFL games. The first NFL
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  Speaker 1: game I ever attended was in 2010 with the Philadelphia Eagles.
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  Speaker 1: When I moved back to the Bay Area and I
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  Speaker 1: started working in the media, I went to Candlestick Park
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  Speaker 1: a bunch the last season before they blew that thing
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  Speaker 1: up and moved to Levi's Stadium. And I spent years
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  Speaker 1: going to what I would consider, and I haven't been
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  Speaker 1: to every single one, at the time, the worst stadium
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  Speaker 1: in America. that was hosting major events, given it was
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  Speaker 1: hosting NFL games, that being the Oakland Coliseum. But there
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  Speaker 1: was something special that when a good game broke out,
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  Speaker 1: whether it be at Candlestick at the end or the Coliseum,
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  Speaker 1: which was a little more rare because those teams over
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  Speaker 1: those years weren't that good, of it just being about football.
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  Speaker 1: And a couple years ago, it would have been in
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  Speaker 1: the January 2022, maybe late December 2021, I was down
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  Speaker 1: in Los Angeles with my buddy Scotty and his dad Larry,
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  Speaker 1: and we made a weekend of it. They're like, we
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  Speaker 1: will get you on if you want to come, if
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  Speaker 1: you can swing some Niner tickets to one of the
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  Speaker 1: swankiest golf courses in Southern California. Before they even finished
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  Speaker 1: their sentence, I said I was in. And we went Friday, Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: We played golf at LA Country Club on Saturday. We
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  Speaker 1: played at another country club on Friday. And we went
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  Speaker 1: to the Rams-Niner game on Sunday. And we were working
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  Speaker 1: with a ticket app at the time. I was able
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  Speaker 1: to swing some tickets. I still had to pay. I mean,
• 4:49
  Speaker 1: we're not cheap tickets. And we sat on the club level. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the game, the first half, was horrendous. It turned out
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  Speaker 1: to be an incredible game. It went to overtime. The
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  Speaker 1: Niners won and they made the playoffs. And because the
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  Speaker 1: Cardinals lost, the Rams ended up winning the division. And
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  Speaker 1: they were division champs even after they lost in overtime.
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  Speaker 1: But I just vividly remember, it was the first time
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  Speaker 1: and only time I've ever been to the stadium thinking,
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  Speaker 1: It's like I'm in a spaceship and the club set
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  Speaker 1: up with the cocktails and the bars was absolutely incredible.
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  Speaker 1: I ended up sitting just by chance next to Danny Trejo.
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  Speaker 1: It was cool. But I thought like this is nothing
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  Speaker 1: like my experience going to the Coliseum or going to
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  Speaker 1: Candlestick when the best food item you could get is
• 5:39
  Speaker 1: one of the worst hot dogs you will ever eat.
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  Speaker 1: But when that game got going and got close in
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  Speaker 1: the second half, I remember being at an incredible Thursday
• 5:47
  Speaker 1: night football game, Raiders-Chiefs on a Thursday night, and just
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  Speaker 1: thinking like, this is pure. And we're way past that.
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  Speaker 1: It's all about the money. It's all about the revenue,
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  Speaker 1: which I got no problem with. I completely understand. Hell,
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  Speaker 1: I'm kind of like that as a human being. We
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  Speaker 1: do miss something. Tonight, Buffalo will open up this new stadium.
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  Speaker 1: There'll be a bunch of stories coming out about how
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  Speaker 1: they missed the mark, the cool attributes. It'll be nothing
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  Speaker 1: like it used to be. I was texting with a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of buddies on Monday night in that Kansas City environment.
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  Speaker 1: And the one thing the NFL lacks compared to Saturday
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  Speaker 1: is there's not really a pageantry to football games on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: It's just about the football, the money, how much they
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  Speaker 1: can charge for your PSL, how much someone's willing to
• 6:39
  Speaker 1: pay for a suite. It's just, I mean, it's very,
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  Speaker 1: very corporate. where you watch these games on Saturdays, there's
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  Speaker 1: just something special about it. And there's only a few
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  Speaker 1: franchises with their home stadium that truly have that. Arrowhead
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  Speaker 1: still does. Once they build a new stadium, it will
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  Speaker 1: no longer be the same. Seattle, I think, is a
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  Speaker 1: newer stadium. You know, it's not 30, 40 years old.
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  Speaker 1: But there is a vibe there that is basically unmatched
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  Speaker 1: throughout the NFL. And since Josh Allen showed up and
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  Speaker 1: resurrected the Bills, Buffalo kind of had that. No, they
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  Speaker 1: really had that. Their games in Buffalo were incredible. And
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  Speaker 1: as the season went on and the weather turned and
• 7:29
  Speaker 1: some of the snow games, it has been a very
• 7:32
  Speaker 1: enjoyable ride for someone that just consumed a lot of
• 7:36
  Speaker 1: these games. I obviously do this for a living, but
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  Speaker 1: even if I didn't, just because they're one of the
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  Speaker 1: marquee franchises, they play in a bunch of primetime games,
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of afternoon games with Nance and Romo and
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  Speaker 1: now J.J. Watt because Romo's probably never coming back. And
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  Speaker 1: that's gone. And it'll never be the same. And to me,
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  Speaker 1: there's something that's just a little sad when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to that. Listen, I spend usually summer months, maybe not months,
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  Speaker 1: but a couple weeks a year minimum in Lake Tahoe.
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  Speaker 1: I've been going there most of my life. There's something
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  Speaker 1: just special about that area. I don't know. It's hard
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  Speaker 1: to match for me, having grown up there, and just
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  Speaker 1: a way of life that is unlike the way most
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  Speaker 1: of us live, that is go, go, go, go, go, go, go.
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  Speaker 1: You get that lake life. There's not a nice restaurant
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  Speaker 1: in sight, and you're just kind of enjoying the slow
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  Speaker 1: pace of the lake and the mountains and the trees. Well,
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  Speaker 1: now a bunch of Bay Area money has filtered in
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  Speaker 1: there over the last five years. A bunch of old
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  Speaker 1: school cabins have been basically knocked down and rebuilt by
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  Speaker 1: the money guys that are these modern day homes. and
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  Speaker 1: I listen I don't have an issue with the modern
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  Speaker 1: look kind of that square look and you think to
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  Speaker 1: yourself well it snows here in the winter three or
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  Speaker 1: four months the reason you have the cabin slope is
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  Speaker 1: so the snow falls out what happens when it gets
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  Speaker 1: packed up five ten feet and all that weight it
• 9:06
  Speaker 1: can't be good for the structure and they're like oh
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: yeah our uh They're all heated. So you just press
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  Speaker 1: a button. Immediately the snow melts. No big deal. And
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  Speaker 1: inside we got golf simulators. We got movie theaters. And
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  Speaker 1: it's not the same Lake Tahoe that I grew up on.
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  Speaker 1: It still doesn't make it, you know, less special once
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  Speaker 1: you're hanging out by the lake, having a beer on
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  Speaker 1: an afternoon day on the water. But it does feel
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  Speaker 1: a little bit different. And I would say the same
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  Speaker 1: thing about some of these football stadiums. I'll still really
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  Speaker 1: enjoy the game Thursday night. I'll still enjoy all these
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  Speaker 1: games moving forward as all these teams build these new
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  Speaker 1: stadiums and move into places. But I do miss it
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. That there was just, it wasn't about
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  Speaker 1: any of the BS. And that's what it's kind of become,
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  Speaker 1: which we're never going back. So Buffalo fans, congrats that
• 9:56
  Speaker 1: your team is good. But I think you would all
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  Speaker 1: agree that that it's a little bittersweet. Opening a new
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  Speaker 1: stadium is really cool for the owner and the guy
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  Speaker 1: that gets the revenue flow. But for most people, it's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: kind of miss the old days. And you know what?
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with that. On the game, I've always
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: been a believer as like where you're now, some of
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: these teams play multiple short weeks, but for a long
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  Speaker 1: period of time, you got one Thursday night game. And
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: then Amazon is, I mean, one of, I think it's
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: top five biggest company in the world as it should be.
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, you press a button, things are delivered to
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  Speaker 1: your house in like five minutes. It's an incredible company.
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: And if you don't like it, you just take a
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  Speaker 1: box to about seven different options, Whole Foods, UPS right
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  Speaker 1: around the corner. Listen, I know there's a segment online
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: that hates billionaires, but props to Jeff Bezos. No family.
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: There probably are families, but we are getting our money's
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  Speaker 1: worth at Amazon. I'll promise you that. This game early
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: in the season is always a huge advantage. Just from
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: a football standpoint, once you start playing Thursday night, if
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: you have a Thursday night game week 7, week 10,
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  Speaker 1: week 12, you're not preparing for that game in the
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: offseason because too much changes. What are you really going
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: to do in the offseason? You have a bunch of
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: new players, maybe new coaches, whoever your opponent is. Week two,
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: you better believe that Dan Campbell and his staff and
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: Brady and his crew have been preparing for this game
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: since OTAs. Because once Sunday night or Monday morning hits,
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: all you really got to bang out is the one game.
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: So your film study on the franchise, on their coordinators,
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: on their personnel, you have all summer to do that.
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: You have all August to do that. So it's a
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: much easier transition for the coaching staff in terms of
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: forcing a game plan in basically 48 hours. working, you know,
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: it's like a fluid process with your players. Where typically,
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: like a normal football week, Even Andy and Sean Payton,
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: they have a little bit of a quicker week, but
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: both those two teams have been working on the Jags
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: and the Colts probably since May or June. So they're
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: not rushing everything on Tuesday. For every team that plays
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: on Sunday, you go home, you eat dinner with your family,
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: win or lose. You come back to the office bright
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: and early. If you lost, you probably grade the tape
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: in the morning. Your team comes in. Maybe you have
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: a meeting where you go over as a team, as offense, defense,
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: position group. Every team and coaching staff does it a
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: little different. Then they leave, potentially by around lunchtime, and
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: you just dive all in on your next opponent. So
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: all Monday, whenever the players leave, and some teams, if
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: you won, your players don't even show up. So once
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: you watch the tape and grade it and maybe meet
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: as a staff, By mid-morning, you start game planning. And
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: you game plan all Monday and all Tuesday. It doesn't
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: really exist on a Thursday. That's why these coaches look
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: like Sean McVay in Australia late in the season on
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: these Thursday games because it's insane. It's a little easier
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: for these guys. And your players, like the attrition of guys.
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, I went to Roto World, which is a
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: fantasy website, which I've been using since we looked for
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: injuries in the NFL. It just kind of breaks down
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: all the injury information. So-and-so, quad, limited in practice. Just
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: goes every single player in the league. every prominent starter
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: or rotational player shows up there. And you just see
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: guy after guy after guy after guy, limited in practice, questionable,
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: limited in practice, won't do much this week. And you're
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: just like, this is week two. And a lot of
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: these guys are already banged up. So imagine as the
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: season goes on, we all know it's just part of
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: the sport. Well, the first Thursday night game, you're going
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: to be relatively healthy. And the guys that are healthy
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: are going to be relatively fresh. None of them play
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: in preseason. And they played one game. So you're looking
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  Speaker 1: at the Bills and the Lions like the Lions, not
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: an ideal first game. Lost their right tackle, the rookie
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: they drafted in the first round. And I think their
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: left guard who are not going to play. So this
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: is a team that had some offensive line question marks.
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  Speaker 1: all offseason, or I mean like last year. They tried
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: to address it in the offseason, and boom, the first
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: game happens, you lose a couple guys. So, little concerning.
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  Speaker 1: But I do think you look at both these two
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  Speaker 1: teams like, obviously I would say the Bills have the
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: best player in the league in Josh Allen, who they
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: are very dependent on. You know, he's the equivalent like
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: I hate doing the LeBron comp because LeBron won titles.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: But LeBron also played with Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, Kyrie Irving,
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: Kevin Love, and Anthony Davis. If you ever gave the
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: equivalent of one of those guys just for Josh's defense,
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: we'd probably look a little different. But the Lions also
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: have non-quarterback. What's Jameer Gibbs? Top five player in the
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: league right now? I mean, he looks remarkable. And they
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: gave him... it felt like 50 touches. And then Dan
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: Campbell quoted after the game, like, yeah, he can do more.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, probably, I mean, definitely can. Most
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: players can't always do more, but do you want him
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: to do more? So I think you look at the
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: bills who went into Houston, kind of slayed the demon.
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  Speaker 1: They had all these explosive plays, 10 plus, you know,
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: 20 yard passes, which the Texans only gave up eight. Well,
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: I'm watching the lions, uh, Tyler Shuck threw and is
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: basically all the second half in overtime, 400-plus yards. Chris
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: Alave looked like Randy Moss out there. So it's not
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: like the Lions defense is great. I think you look
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: at both these two teams, if their offenses are on,
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: they're going to be really, really good. But defensively in
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: the secondary and slowing people down is a major question mark.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Aiden Hutchinson, I think, led the first week in pressures. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: the Bills defensive line came through when it mattered the most,
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  Speaker 1: which is kind of the strength of both their teams
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  Speaker 1: with Hutchinson and their defensive line. The rest of the
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: unit is pretty questionable. And if your quarterback can get
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: hot in golf and you can protect them, you should
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: be able to score. And you think, well, if Josh
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Allen and that Bills offense can light up the Texans defense,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: what are they going to do to the Lions? So
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: this is a game that, you know, in theory, you're like, ah,
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: it's going to be like 40 to 35. Usually not
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: the way it plays out. But this is a fantastic game.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: And this gets back to the league pivoting. You know,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: it wasn't that long ago that a game like this,
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: it would have been unheard of, unheard of for this
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: thing to be on a Thursday night. This would have
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: been like an afternoon game on Sunday or a primetime
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: game Sunday night. And this is, listen, I watch a
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: lot of football, obviously, on Sunday. It's literally all I do.
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  Speaker 1: The first couple weeks, the Sunday slate in the morning
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: and the afternoons, pretty hit or miss. And you go, well,
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  Speaker 1: the Bills and the Lions off the board this week.
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  Speaker 1: The Chiefs off the board Sunday night. The Rams and
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: the Giants off the board Monday night. I mean, they're
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: going all in on these packages for the prime time
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: because of the way they're selling it and the way
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: they want to resell it coming up here in a
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: couple years for just a ton of money. And we
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: kind of lose out because it can be a little
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: hit or miss. I mean, let's face it. Sunday afternoon
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: after Sunday morning felt a little like a comedown. Obviously,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: the Packer-Viking game got good at the end. It got,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I guess, exciting. And same thing with the Eagles-Commanders. But
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: it's like, God, kind of a lot of Raiders-Dolphins. And
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: the Cardinal-Charger game turned out way differently than any of
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: us thought. But that game on paper is fucking awful.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, that is not one that the masses are
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: going to consume. I mean, you pay attention for fantasy
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: purposes or... if you're going to get a little aggressive
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: with some shackles. But on paper, that's just a game that, eh.
• 18:17
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• 18:24
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• 18:28
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• 18:31
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  Speaker 1: exchange and clearing organization. Now, speaking of this, the next
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: three opponents, because they're both 1-0, whoever wins this game,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: you're 2-0, you're feeling pretty good. The Bills win. Your
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: first two wins are the Texans and the Lions, two
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: teams that I think most of us would agree should
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: be lock playoff teams. And if you're the Lions, you
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: go on the road in a short week and beat
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: the Bills, and you beat the Saints, who I think
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: when the dust settles should win nine, ten games. I do.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'll be proven wrong. I think they're going to
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: be okay. I think they're going to be okay. And
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: if you're the Lions and you win this game, your
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: next three games are Jets at Panthers at Cardinals. So
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: you're going to be feeling really good about a hot start.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: And over that period of time, you can kind of
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: figure out your defense. I saw Richard Sherman. I was
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: flipping around TV yesterday and he was on with Kevin Clark.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: And he was basically saying the Lions defensive coordinator, like, bro,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: you have to adapt to your personnel. It's honestly Belichick's
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: greatest strength. during his years with the Patriots. It's like,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: what personnel or what scheme does he run? It's like,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I don't run a scheme. I run whatever defense or
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: offense I need to run against that given opponent. Now, obviously,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: he's probably considered the greatest schematical coach, especially defensively in
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: the history of the league. But a lot of guys
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: are like, we run man. Well, it's like, well, man
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: ain't going to work against these guys. Or we run
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: these two coverages. We know these by the back of
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: our hands. It's like, well, this team annihilates that look.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: And some guys, like, I got no problem being who
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: you are. Like Spags and Flores. A lot of coaches,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: you know, up until I didn't see the percentage of
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: how many times Spags blitzed on Monday. But going into
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Monday night, Flores blitzed in that game against the Packers,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: like 80% of the defensive snaps. The next closest team
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: was 30% lower. So when you think Brian Flores, and
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Ben Johnson had a funny reaction today, basically a reporter
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: asked him, How he balances a week where you're playing
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: a guy like Flores that you know really well, who
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: you kind of know what he does, but you never
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: really know where it's coming from, from not overthinking what
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Brian's going to think you're thinking that he's thinking. This
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: kind of chess match between the minds. And Ben Johnson
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: basically is like, I'm in the middle of not trying
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: to overthink that right now. And that's what gets really
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: complicated in the sport when you play certain defensive coordinators.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: And then you play other guys, you're like, are you
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: dynamic enough to throw a different pitch? And I think
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: that's going to be the question with the Lions. Like
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: their personnel, you can only be a great defense. if
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: you have great personnel. There's never going to be a
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: top two or three defense in the league with average players.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: It is impossible. That is the side of the ball
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: to me that is way more about the Jimmys and
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: the Joes than the Xs and the Os. You need,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: especially in the NFL, a good schematic coach, but you
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: can't play with 11 average guys and be a great defense.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: It's impossible. You need some Will Andersons, Aaron Donalds. You
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: need those guys. The 49ers defense looks dramatically better when
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Fred Warner and Nick Bosa are standing there. It matters.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Where on offense, I can manipulate a lot of yards.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: You need a solid quarterback. But you can win a
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: lot of games and manipulate offense with rotational running backs,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: random guys at tight end, guys that can function in
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: your offense at wide receiver. It's not really possible at
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: defense to do that. And that to me is going
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: to be the question mark, I think, with both these
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: two teams. Is their personnel good enough when push comes
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: to shove? Can Josh Allen really be the equivalent of
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: an NBA player like Jokic, like LeBron, like Steph in
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: their prime and just carry you week after week after week?
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: It becomes difficult. Because their margin for error, if something
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: goes wrong, is basically zero. Like, it doesn't exist. Same thing, like,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: once the Lions offense scored 21, and then they kind
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: of hit the skids, it was like, well, our defense
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: is bending but not breaking here, and now they're breaking.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: And it becomes a problem really, really quick. And there's
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: nothing you can really do in season. Like, that's, you know,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: I saw this clip from, like, a local radio in
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Detroit last And this has been, I think, a theme
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: in Detroit for a while. And you can even say
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Buffalo a little bit, though they've tried. You know, the
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Vaughn Miller signing blew up in their face. This offseason,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: they traded for DJ Moore. It's not like they gave
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: up a conditional fourth. I mean, they did give up
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: their second round pick, which is, I think, an aggressive trade.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: And it already paid off week one. He had that
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: sweet touchdown on the sideline, had a couple other catches. Listen,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I think DJ Moore's a good player. But it's always like,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: why don't we get Max Crosby? Why are we in
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: for Miles Garrett? Because I think when you do something
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: like that, like the reason they traded their first round
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: pick for Jalen Waddell or their first round pick for
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Trent McDuffie, before Miles Garrett, like both those two teams
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: thought they were a player away. They thought they were
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: a player away. When you make that move and you're
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: not a player away, whether you're a bad team trying
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: to get to average or whether you're an average team
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: trying to get to good or unit, let me say,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: it can really cripple you. I mean, the Raiders did
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: it with Devontae Adams and regretted it immediately. For as
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: great as Tyreek Hill was when the Dolphins traded for him,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: and he was incredible. I think his first year at
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: 1,900 yards. If they could do that over again, they
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have traded for him. So I think you've got
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: to be very, very careful about doing that. And there's
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: often not that many guys available that fit you perfectly.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: You could make the argument that You should always trade
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: for someone on the trenches if a guy is worthy
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: of that pick over a skill guy. Like, I like
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Jalen Waddell a lot. I think he's a good player.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Really good player. Dynamic player. You could say his numbers
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: a little deflated because of the operation he played in
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: over the last couple years with their quarterback situation. But
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: if you're going to go all in for a guy
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: making $ 30 million... Is that who you would trade your
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: first-round pick for? Would they have been better off trading
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: for just a defensive lineman? Or just utilizing that pick
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: to trade back and gain other assets? And I know
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: it's easy to play that game Monday morning quarterback where...
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: The Broncos were a disaster. Waddle did nothing. But I
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: think you've got to be very, very careful about trading
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: for wide receivers. I really do. I mean, I'm not
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: in that mode. And when your team's like the Bills
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: and the Lions, if you do give up your picks,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: are you a player away? Because if you're not, you're
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: going to regret it fast if it doesn't go perfectly.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: And most things don't. Someone sent me this DM today.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: about Dan Campbell before we dive into my friends at Polymarket.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Looking at the game Thursday, the public is obviously all
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: in on the Bills. So the Lions will probably win
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: because I swear that's how it goes. Dan Campbell is
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: an underdog. Detroit has been one of the single best
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: teams against the spread when catching points. They are 5-1
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: against the spread in their last six games. And this
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: was always a Tomlin thing. is like you get these
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: motivational coaches, John Harbaugh, Dan Campbell, Mike Tomlin. When nobody
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: gives you a shot, remember Tomlin's record whenever he was
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: like a home dog, it was like, you never bet
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: against me. Like, no, the Steelers are down bad. It's like, no,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: they're not. Steelers are going to get smoked here. No,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: they don't. Where a lot of these guys lose is
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: against the Saints. It's like, oh, 21-0. They're going to
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: win this game 48-0. All of a sudden, they're in overtime.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: So when you look at this game, it's like, oh,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: they're missing a couple offensive linemen. They come off that
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: weird game. The Bills are coming off. You could argue
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: the best win, them or the Chiefs, given their opponent.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: And it's like, how are the Bills not going to
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: win this game? And that's just not how the football works, right?
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: And so when I look, Buffalo, minus 5.5, brought to
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: you by my friends at Polymarket. If you pick them not.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: To cover, $ 100.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Pays $ 190. I just think that's the play. I think
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: backdoor cover is in play with this. The other thing
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: is Jamison Williams. Jamison Williams and DK Metcalf had a
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: pretty rough week one. They really did. If you picked,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: they're probably not five guys in a straight line winning
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: like a 50 to 75 yard race against those two guys.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: But they play wide receiver. When the ball comes your way,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: you got to catch it. And Jamison Williams had a
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: couple drops. But here's the one thing I will say.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: And this goes back years. Dan Campbell has always been
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: a big Williams fan. And I think it gets back
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: to offensive guy. He's a former tight end. And this
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: DK brings to the table too. When you have that
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: speed on the field, it just opens things up. Especially
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: when you got a running back you want to give
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: the ball a lot to. But Jamison Williams has proven
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: like he has caught the ball. He has made a
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: bunch of big plays. I do believe that motivational coaches
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: are really big on the psychology of confidence. And I
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: think there going to want it. And you look at
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: the Bills, it's not exactly like Deion Sanders is out
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: there with DB. An anytime touchdown for Jamison Williams, $ 100
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: plays 345. I think they're going to take some shots
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: against this team. I just watched CJ Stroud pushing the
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: ball downfield against them with Nico Collins. And he's not
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: as fast as Jamison Williams. So, you know, St. Brown,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: the first game, like, giving him 10 carries, or, I mean,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: 10 catches, he didn't have 70 yards. So, and I'm
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: a huge Amon Ross St. Brown. That, to me, would
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: be a little concerning. But I also think, like, you
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: kind of go into the game plan, you're going to
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: pack the box, try to slow down Gibbs, and just
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: kind of keep St. Brown, you know, corralled within the
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: intermediate part of the field. You have a speed guy, man.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: There's only so much you can do. You know, you can't,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: especially if you're going to, cheat down in the box
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: there's going to be some open real estate deep and
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: I think they're going to take some shots here so
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: to me and try to build his confidence up because
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: if the Lions are going to want to go places
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: they're going to have to be a little like the
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Bears like we're going to need more offense we're going
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: to need more points some pressure on my guy Drew
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Petzing who everyone loved the hire I did too but
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: there's still this shadow you know sometimes like Kalen Dubor
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: The old saying is you always want to be the
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: guy that replaces the guy that replaced the guy. You
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: don't want to be the guy that replaced Nick Saban
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: unless they offer you $ 100 million. You want to be
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: like Lane, replace Brian Kelly. Or what's the dude's name
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: at Iowa State coach, Matt Campbell. Replace James Franklin or
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Bob Chesney at UCLA. Replace Deshaun Foster. The bar's pretty low. So,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: the ghost of Ben Johnson lives because he stays in
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: the division. And a lot of people, rightfully so, go,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: was it kind of him? I'm a believer in Dan Campbell.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: I by no means am acting like he is... I
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: believe he's like a third Harbaugh. I think he's good. But, like,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: this goes back to Tomlin and the Harbaugh brothers... Their
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: coordinators matter a lot. It's why they've done historically a
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: pretty good job of hiring good coordinators. They've had a
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: lot of good defensive and offensive coordinators over the years.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: You can say what you want about Greg Roman. They
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: had a lot of success with Lamar Jackson in Baltimore.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: And then they had even more with Todd Munkin. Jim
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Harbaugh has hired his defensive coordinators at Michigan back-to-back were
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald and Jesse Minter. Not bad. You know, pretty
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: good hiring practices between the two of them. So I
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: think Dan Campbell just needs his guys to do well.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: And that's something to watch, right? Because when you look
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: at the bills, like Joe Brady doesn't have to worry
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: about like, is my offensive coordinator? That's me. That's my baby.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Now who he hires as a defense coordinator matters. And
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: I believe in Jim Leonard. I've loved his game since
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: he was a player. But this gets back to, it's
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: easier for D'Amico or whoever the top defenses are, their
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: defensive coordinators, to look good when they got really good players.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Unless you're going to be one of those crazy SOBs
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: like Spags or Flores and basically blitz every play. Wink
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Martindale did that. Most guys aren't comfortable doing that. Vic Fangio,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: to me, the best three defensive coordinators in the league
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: that are not head coaches are... are Flores, Fangio, and Specs.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: And the crazy part is Fangio is way different than
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: the two of them because he's a little more vanilla.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: But when Fangio has thrived with Harbaugh at the Niners,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: with the Eagles the last couple years, they got a
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: lot of dudes. You don't need to blitz all the time.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: When you got some of those guys on your defensive line,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Zach Bond, some of those DBs, a little easier to
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: play deep. So this game's going to be really fun.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: But like I said to start, kind of miss the
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: old school stadiums. Some other nuggets. You know, I was
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: all in on the Bengals. Little nervous. I saw this
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: tweet today from this guy is Jeremy Roush. He's Fox 19.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: So he must be local Cincinnati guy. This was before
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Burrow talked. He said, Joe Burrow opened practice in a
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: very limited capacity. Not really throwing. Seams off. Also appears
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: to have some sort of brace on his throwing shoulder.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: We'll know more when he talks shortly. Well, we found
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: out after that tweet and after practice ended that Joe
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Burrow currently has back tightness. Which, and even he said, listen,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: I'd have to be legit injured to not play in
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: these games. I'm playing this Sunday. That is concerning. That
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: is really, really concerning. I thought this team had a
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: chance to make a run to the AFC Championship, to
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, and if all things went well, to
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: go to win the whole thing. But they ain't going
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: anywhere if this back starts going. And this is now
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a concern. You know, he's had
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: some freak major injuries. Last year, the turf toe. He's
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: had his knee snapped. He's had that wrist hand thing
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: that happened a couple years ago that knocked him out
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: for a while. It's just... You just don't feel great
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: about his health. And if the Bengals are going to
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: go anywhere this year, I don't care how improved their
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: defense is, God, they need him healthy. And back tightness...
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: You never know what to make of back tightness. This
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: goes back to Stafford last year. He couldn't practice. And
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: then he goes out and wins the MVP. And these
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: guys all offseason were like, we were not making that up.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: It was really concerning. And then it just kind of
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: went away. And he clearly was able to practice through it.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Rehab it. And we never really noticed it during the offseason.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Or I mean, during the season. But sometimes it becomes
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: an issue. And it starts to limit you. Sometimes I
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: would rather have like, hey... I broke my arm. I'm
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: out these many weeks. Like Sam Darnold. He has a
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: butt injury, which is good because he didn't fracture or
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: crazy hurt his hip, which could have been disastrous for
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: him personally, for the team, for everything. Drew Locke is
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: starting this week. Announced today. Sam Darnold, out. Which, I mean,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: I would guess he's out next week too. But who knows?
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: You just, you don't know. It's like, what if Sam
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Darnold misses two months? Possible. What if Sam Darnold returns
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: in like two games? Possible. What if Joe Burrow shows
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: no signs this week? Possible. What if Joe Burrow is
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: just not really the same all year because his back's weird? Possible.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: That's a shitty part about football. He's got no freaking clue. Now,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: the one thing we do know... is that if Deshaun
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Watson starts, it's going to look bad. He had another
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: all-time quote today basically saying, you would think the media
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: expects me to throw 400 yards and five touchdowns every
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: single game. It's like, no, Deshaun. Most fans would just
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: hope you throw 400 yards on the season. I think
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I do get this week the Browns are playing Tampa Bay.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: And Baker gave another mature quote today. Like, listen, as
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: life goes on, you remember the good times more than
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: the bad times. That is very true. As you get
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: older in life, you know, you don't, like, I look
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: back in fond memories that I wonder if you could
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: place me back at that exact time. Wasn't as great
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: as I remember it being, but that's how you kind
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: of choose to remember things as. And Baker by no
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: means is the perfect player. But he's a guy now
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: in Tampa that has got multiple extensions. And anyone, we've
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: all been there, most of us have. Some of you
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: guys get married early, don't have this problem. But if
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: you're single through your 20s or maybe early 30s, you're
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: going to see, especially if you punch above your weight,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: you see her go off and probably date a guy
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: who's more successful than you. That her life on Instagram,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: you're jealous of. And even though you might not have
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: liked her, you almost start missing her because you go, God,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: her life looks great. And who knows if it actually is.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: But from the outside, you know that her life feels
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: a lot better than yours. And the one thing about
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: being a Browns fan right now is it truly is awful.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: It's one of those things you're just stuck in this
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: awful relationship. And you've got to play Baker Mayfield, who's
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: on a second big contract for Tampa, who's just in
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: a good place, who the organization likes, who you drafted.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: It'd be one thing, too, if like, hey, we drafted
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: this guy in the second round. It just got a
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: little weird. You drafted him number one overall. It's one
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: of those things that you just don't shake, and then
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: you're kind of stuck with this guy making all this money,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: impacting your salary cap, your inability to make moves, who
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: just keeps saying the dumbest shit possible It'd be one
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: thing if he was almost humble in it. He's like,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: you know, this is tough. This has been awful. I
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: don't feel my same like I once did in Houston
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: and Clemson. I feel the pressure of making all this money.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: It's almost like I let down the fans every week. Eventually,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: some people would be like, hey, you know, I gotta
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: not feel bad for him, but almost like, you know,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be as harsh in my own thoughts
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: about the guy every day. But when you have to watch...
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: As pitiful as they are on TV, the comment is like,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: your house is on fire. And then he comes around
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: every week and like throw some more gasoline on it.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: You're like, make it stop. And there really is no
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: end in sight. and I think everyone believes I mean
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: everyone I've heard mention this Shador Sanders gonna start week
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: three because his home I by no means feel that's
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: a lock not saying it's not gonna happen but the
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: way this is played out it almost feels like hey
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: we're paying him all this money at least run him
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: out for half the season I think there's a very
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: very good chance that that Deshaun Watson, unless he gets
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: injured this week, starts next week, and that thing could
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: really turn really fast, because the one thing about football,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: you only get so many games, but it's not like
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: you play every day, you know, so you got the
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: build-up to each week, and the negativity starts snowball like
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: an avalanche coming down the mountain, and that's how it
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: feels right now in Cleveland, so I feel your guys' pain, man.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: I really do. I saw it when I was doing
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Raiders stuff with that franchise when they were down bad.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: You get these people that love football, and they're typically
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: born in that area, and they're born into it. Jack
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: didn't choose me and Maria to be his parents. He
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: didn't choose to be a middle cough. Born into it. Now,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: he's lucky. It could have been a lot worse. But hey,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: you could argue there's probably some situations that could have
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: been better. He's been pretty good so far. I mean,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: the guy's already eight months old, flown on a plane
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: more than I probably did the first seven, eight years
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: of my life. I just think that a lot of
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: these guys that watch this team, that love this team,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: you get to a point where you're almost just disgusted.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: You're like, how can this be my life? I'm not
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: even asking to be We don't need to win the
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I was thinking about this about Titans fans
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: or Jets fans forever. We can't just have one season
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: where we're just kind of solid? Where it's just enjoyable
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: and fun? And the answer pretty consistently has been no.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Which just sucks. Because this sport is made. I mean, tailor-made.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: If you're a Saints fan right now, you're like, we
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: got help. Things can be fun.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Help.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: The Panthers just gave up 59. You got to be thinking...
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: You know, we got some high-priced guys on defense. If
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: our offense just plays like this, our defense can't be
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: that bad. We could win nine games and have an
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: enjoyable season. I mean, if you're a Browns fan, you
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: start thinking like, is this going to be like Hugh
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Jackson all over again? Could we win like two games
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: this season? Even if it's like tank for a quarterback.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: That's easy to say when it's like March and you're
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: about to draft. Start talking like that in mid-September. I'm
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: still going to watch these games. What else am I
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: going to do? Okay, let's do some mailbag. At John Middlecoff,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff is the Instagram. Fire in those DMs
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: and get your questions answered here on the show. I
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: will start with... Looks like his business account. I typically
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: hate these off-the-field stories, but I think the Arch banning
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: apology for laughing at an AI video is absolutely insane.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: It's an AI video. And you got people like Rich
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Eisen getting on their high horse, acting all high and
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: mighty like Arch actually killed someone. I'm sorry, it's a
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: fake video and we have been laughing at people slapping
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: other people since time began. Newsflash, no one actually slapped anyone.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: If I'm a bad person for laughing at a completely
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: fake video, then so be it. For those of you
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: that missed it, Arch Manning made a comment a couple
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: days ago about this AI video of Sark slapping Holly
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Roe and laughed at it. And you know what I
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: thought of over the last couple days? Why do you
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: think he was laughing at it? Because in the locker room,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: the entire team was talking about that video, sharing that video,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: and laughing at that video. Why is that? Because after
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: the game, when Sark ran off and the media started
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: freaking out and crushing Sark for not being professional... it
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: became a pretty big story about Sark, which I was...
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: We had just got back from dinner. I kind of
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: watched the second half where we were trying to battle
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: the little man, put him to sleep, so we had
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: the game on mute. When he took off, I kind
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: of laughed. I'm talking about the moment after the game
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: on Saturday night when she tried to interview him. And honestly,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: the first thing I thought was like... Everyone, including myself,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: I'm as guilty of anyone, has been shitting on Sark forever.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: So the players all know that. The pressure on that organization,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: on that program, was enormous in that game. It's why
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Arch ran around the field. It's why Sark stormed off
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: and went nuts. I kind of thought Hawley threw a fit.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: But again, no one even thinks about it for a
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: moment after it happens, except the media makes a really
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: big deal of it. So on social media, where a
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: lot of them spend the majority of the time, one
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: thing I've learned is this, quote unquote controversies. I think
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: there is a difference between an online controversy and an
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: actual real polarizing issue controversy. I was at the gym
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: earlier today... And if I just would have grabbed every person...
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: There were some older people... 70 year old people... There
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: were guys probably... 20, 30, 40 years old... And just
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: asked them to explain to me... What their thoughts were
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: on Arch Manning... The AI video... And Sark and Holly Rowe...
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: I bet less than... 20% of... 20, 30 people... Would
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: have had any clue what I was talking about... Now...
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: If over the course of the last couple years, I
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: just walked up to somebody in real life, not on
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: the internet, because things on the internet, if you're scrolling
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: on Instagram or Twitter, feel really big. And then you
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: go to real life and no one fucking knows about
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: it and no one cares. If I said, hey, what
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: do you think of inflation? Everyone would have a take
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: because that's literally impacting everybody. I saw the clip of
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Rich Eisen basically saying all those guys that laughed at
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Arch Manning for saying that should all personally call and
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: respond or call Holly Rowe and apologize. It's like, Rich,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: you love Michigan, so you fucking talked about Sharon Moore forever.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: And you covered the NFL. There was a player on
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Monday Night Football, Jonathan Cooper, who is literally not able
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: to play because he's going to a jury trial for
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: strangling his girlfriend. They will not release the video of
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs and his girlfriend. Why do you think? Probably
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: doesn't look great. The Rams starting left tackle, Google his
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: actions over the years. So it's like, none of this,
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: nothing actually happened. Now, the Mannings are very, when I
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: see that controversy, my first reaction was like, there are
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: videos of them making out. There's an AI video on
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: fucking everything. He didn't make the video. His team didn't
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: make the video. Videos just exist. And everyone gets on
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: their moral high horse on social media. I mean, typically
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: the media and then people like followers. I actually don't
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: think those people in real life exist. Like the Sydney Sweeney.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: I saw like three different articles today how she's ruining
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: women's sports. She's not an athlete. She got paid millions
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: of dollars to do an ad. She's done these before
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: where she takes off her clothes. She doesn't give a
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: shit about sports. She's literally a paid actor to do
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: a commercial. It does not matter. It is not controversial
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: if you get off the internet and in the real world.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: But if you get on the internet, you're like, God,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: this is kind of crazy. And that's where I think
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: there's this balance of like, is this a real big issue?
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Or just feels big on the internet. Anytime it's looked
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: at you slight someone in the media, the media gets
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: very offended. Especially the old guard. So I get why
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: he apologized. And when I say apologized, I mean reached
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: out and called her. Because does anyone with a brain
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: think that Arch Manning is like pro-domestic violence? Is pro-
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: you know, Sark slapping Holly Roe, which obviously never happened.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: He literally just said, you know, go Texas horns up,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: go Texas and stormed off. That's what actually happened in
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: the real world. And I think the AI video is
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: kind of symbolic of the world we live in with
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: like the internet. Like a lot of stuff isn't real.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: A lot of stuff in the comment section is I
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: think half comments in general are people just fucking around.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Probably more. Not even that serious. And then I'll see
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: comments of people arguing back and forth, whether it's like
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: an article on The Athletic or Twitter or Instagram. It's
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: like most human beings. And maybe as I've gotten older,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: I've been in the internet business for so long, I'm
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: just so numb to all this. For those of you
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: listening with families, with jobs that you just don't sit
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: in front of social media all day, you're not as
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: dialed in on what actually feels big or doesn't big
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: because it's typically a media reaction to stuff like this.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: like did arch have to call her and apologize like
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: partly because of the family like they this collins thing
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: with peyton manning is like do you think he drives
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: a mid-sized savannah do you think peyton manning's driving a
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: beauty it's like tiger woods like no they're driving escalades
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: and mercedes and flying private jets you know it's like
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: they ain't doing any of the stuff they are promoting
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: but they're very corporate And when you're very corporate, you
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: get very brand sensitive. Like, do I think there would
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: be some people in that situation? I'm like, I'm not
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: apologizing for anything. I didn't do anything wrong. It clearly
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: was a fake video. There are a million fake videos.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: You know, can I not laugh at it? And this
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: is also, I think, the disconnect. Is if the media
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: could hear, like, the law. Sometimes I say it to Maria.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: And I've had to do a better job of this.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: It's just men. I'm less offended by a lot of things.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: And I'll say things that aren't... I don't feel her
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: that bad. But, like, my words carry a lot of weight.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: You know? And she doesn't forget them. Or I will...
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: Something said, I'll forget it five minutes later. Like, I
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: don't hold on to things that long. But the internet
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: specifically makes it feel like things are a much bigger deal.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: And the storm is much crazier than it actually is. Like,
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: this is, to me, your classic story. Like, I saw
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: one lady is like... He reacted, Sark, like she was
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: just some random YouTuber with a wireless cheap mic. You
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: mean those YouTubers making millions of dollars all over the internet?
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: Probably more than her. But to this journalist, Hawley's position
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: is like hollowed ground. Which, listen, I got no issue
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: with sideline reporters. And I do believe in college, the
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: interviews with the coaches, especially post-game, are cool. But also,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: it's like, They pay her bills. Holly pays his bills.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Of all the programs, Texas is printing money no matter what.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: Sark's $ 11 million, whether they're on ESPN, CBS, Fox, it
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: doesn't fucking matter. Texas is going to make a lot
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: of cash. They are the least dependent on the broadcast partners. Also,
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: he stood there, and it took him a while. And like,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: I haven't heard one person say, you know, she kind
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: of freaked out too. You know, it's like, he's not professional.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: Or was she when he ran away? It's like, are
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: we all held to the same standards? It's always my
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: thing with the media. It's like, we're very critical. It's
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: part of the job. We just give our opinions. Yet
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: when someone's critical of you, people freak out. It's like, well,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: you got no problem blasting everybody. It's like, if people
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: want to talk shit about me, it comes with the territory.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: I say whatever's on my mind. You know, if someone
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: wants to say that about me, it's like, it's their prerogative.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: They can do it. But yeah, I mean, I think
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: the whole thing's pretty stupid. But a lot of these
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: things are stupid. Like, Sydney Sweeney sent back women's sports.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: She's not a fucking athlete. She's an actress, you know,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: doing an ad for a company that probably paid her
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: an ungodly amount of money. Actually, someone texted me today
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: in the business, told me how much money she made.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: It was a lot. And she'll probably do another ad
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: like that for someone else. Because that's kind of the
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: ad she does. And it pays her a lot of cash.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: So it's like, it's not that deep. Here's my take.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: It's not that deep. Not everything is that deep. Some
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: things are. Some things have. They're above my pay grade.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: Stories I don't even follow. That I don't understand. Geopolitical stuff.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: I got no clue. You know, I don't even have
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: an opinion because I don't know. I don't even follow it. Honestly,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: I don't even care. It doesn't affect me. I got
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: other shit to worry about. But these that kind of
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: cross over, it's like, yeah, it ain't that deep. Especially
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: like Rich Eisen getting on his high horse. Like, give
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: me a fucking break. Your football coach last year stormed
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: into his assistant's house. He was banging for two years
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: with a fucking knife and you put it to his neck.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs looked like just blasted his girlfriend. Cooper's suspended
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: and definitely going to a jury trial for strangulation. What
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: are we talking? These are fake. None of it actually exists.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: It does not exist. But that's also a bigger problem
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: with some of these AI videos is like anyone that
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: has older parents or grandparents, I often get like, did
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: you hear what Kyle Shanahan said? Or did you see
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: what Mahomes said? It's like, no, that's a That's fake.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: It's created. I'm sure some of you have seen that
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: AI generation of the Fetty Wap song with Gandolfini and
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: just different actors. It looks pretty real to me. And
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: there are probably some people who are like, how is
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: he doing this? It's like, yeah, it's just created. It's
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: like when you watch a movie and a bunch of
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: people get killed, guess what? They didn't actually get killed.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: Unless they're on that one set with Alec Baldwin. So yeah, I...
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: The older, more seasoned me, I'm just less phased by it. Like,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: I just don't even... Ten years ago, I would have
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: been firing off tweets, and I was like, I don't even...
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: This is stupid. That's why I think the average person
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: that's just living life that isn't on social media all
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: day would say, like, what? What's going on? Sark hit her? No, no. No,
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: he didn't touch her, actually. She actually got mad at
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: him because he didn't give her an interview longer than
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: five seconds. What? But that's the world we live in.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: EJ from Nashville. My question is this. While I highly
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: doubt the Packers fire LaFleur, but if the Commanders have
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: a horrible season and DQ goes, do you think LaFleur
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: and Jaden Daniels would be a good fit? If LaFleur
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: is fired at the end of the season, I think
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: it would depend how it goes, right? If they went
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: 9-8 and they missed the playoffs by a game, but
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: if they won like five games and had a disastrous season,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: is Matt LaFleur 100% locked to get a job? If
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: you assume Tomlin's going to get back in the mix,
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: Sean McDermott is, I would imagine, I mean, he's pretty
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: well documented at this point, he's going to want to
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: be a head coach. There are always Kubiaks, Kevin O'Connells,
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: guys like that that kind of come out of nowhere.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: There's going to be a couple of those. How many
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: jobs are going to open? Ten jobs opened last year.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: A bunch of jobs opened the year before. Like, who's opening?
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: Look at, the Dolphins are going to stink. Their coach
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: is not going to get fired. The Cardinals, I know
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: they won, but let's just say they win five or six.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: LaFleur's not getting fired, that LaFleur. Who's, okay, Dan Quinn,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Todd Bowles, but those are a couple. Who's getting, Schottenheimer,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: if they have a disastrous season? I still kind of
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: doubt that one. Whenever I hear people say Kevin O'Connell's not, like,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell's not getting fired. Who's getting fired? Like, where
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: are the job openings coming this time around? There probably aren't,
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: I guess, Zach Taylor. There's some pressure on him. My
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: guess over under jobs would be like four-ish. There's just
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: been so many the last two years that have opened up.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: I think those, I just don't think we're going to
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: see that. Obviously Green Bay, I guess, if he got fired.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: And this speaks to that. Do you think Green Bay
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: should take a chance on hiring Mike Tomlin? If this
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: season goes poorly and LaFleur is let go, would pairing
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: him and Zach Taylor or Shane Steichen be the way,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: I guess the Colts are another job. So yeah, maybe
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: four or five, but it's not going to be the 10.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: If there's four or five and Tomlin and McDermott come back,
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: they're probably getting jobs. So you start looking at it
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: that way. I believe Jordan Love is good. I think
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: he's a great quarterback who has limited play calling. So
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: Tomlin and Steichen or Zach Taylor. I think Tom, if
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: Tomlin wants to come back, he's a 100% lock to
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: get a job. Now, I think here would be the question. Is,
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: you know, Green Bay is like, it's a pretty big
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: gig in the NFL. But, like, if you have options,
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: it is a difficult gig. The Bears, obviously, it's a
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: well-coached division. And, you know, you have to work for Gutekins.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: You know who Aaron Rodgers wanted to fire? Gutekins. Uh,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: Is Mike Tomlin currently living in Florida? Or is he
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: still living in Pittsburgh? Because if he's cool with just
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: staying in cold weather, then it's like, yeah, that would
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: make a lot of sense. He coached the Steelers, he
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: coached the Packers. All then he would have to do
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: is one day coach the Cowboys and him and McCarthy
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: would all coach the same teams. But would he rather,
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: he once coached back in the day for Tampa. So
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: if Todd Bowles is fired, would he be more interested
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: getting a prominent good GM position a quarterback under contract
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: that he kind of knows to kind of get him going.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: I think Tampa, warm weather, a little easier lifestyle. If
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: Todd Bowles goes at the end of the year, I
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: think that's got Mike Tomlin written all over. The other
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: franchise for Tomlin would be the Commanders. I think he's
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: from that area, went to college in that area. Josh Harris,
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: I think would want a bigger name guy. So, When
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: you look historically who Green Bay has hired, McCarthy, when
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: he was hired, came from the Niners, who actually weren't
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: that good on offense the year he was offensive coordinator. LaFleur,
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: same thing in Tennessee. They've hired Holmgren. They've hired, what's
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: his name, that coached A & M, whose name's escaping
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: me now, kind of chubby guy with glasses. A lot
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: of offensive coaches. But they're not really a defensive franchise.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: And this goes back to the Ted Thompson, Ron Wolfe.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: They kind of look at it through the lens of offense.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: So I think they would be more likely to hire
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: the young hotshot than they would be to hire him.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: But if part of the reason LaFleur gets fired is because, well,
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: they can't finish. They're not tough. the Tomlin-Sean McDermott types
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: would make more sense. I do kind of like a
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: little Tomlin-Shane Steichen combo. If I'm Jason Light and Todd goes,
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: that'd be a good little duo. While I do love
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, seeing the Bears this past weekend, I do
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: wonder how the Lions would look if they kept Ben.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Do you think you'll ever see a coach fired, let go,
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: to let the team pursue hiring their own coordinator who is, quote,
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: the hotshot? With the way the league is moving, I
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: feel like the culture Campbell Harbaugh's have a place to
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: an extent, but they are limited in how much they
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: can influence a game on game day. Do you see
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: it to where calling plays on your side of the
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: ball almost becomes a prerequisite for becoming a head coach?
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: It's a good question. We saw it last year. Sean McDermott,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: now he wasn't technically fired for Joe Brady, but it
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: played out that way. They're adamant that it was not
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: Joe Brady's job the moment they fired Sean McDermott. But
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: he did end up getting the job. And, you know,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: Todd Bowles, Liam Cohen. I mean, Liam Cohen looks like
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: a fucking coach. I mean, he looks pretty good. If
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: he goes and beats Denver this week... He might be
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: the most underrated coach in the league because he's the
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: Jags coach. We just don't talk about that franchise. I
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: know Jags fans get mad, but it kind of is
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: what it is. But it's very rare. I mean, it
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: was shocking when Sean McDermott was fired after they got
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: to the second round of the playoffs. Because what you're
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: saying is the hotshot coordinator, your team's usually good. So
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: firing Dan Campbell after going to the NFC Championship game
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: and the following year being the one seed, Pretty unprecedented
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: doing stuff like that. It's not only rare, it just
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: never really happens. So I think it's always easy to
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: talk about that after the fact. Because like, if you
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: and I ran a franchise, and listen, I'm a Dan
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: Campbell guy, so it sounds like you are too. If
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: I could choose Ben Johnson or Dan Campbell, we would
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: all choose Ben Johnson. And part of it, like some
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: of these young offensive guys, beside LeFleur, are kind of badasses.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: You know, they run a tight ship. And Ben Johnson
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: definitely feels that way. I mean, sometimes in a weird way,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: it's like he's almost over the top. It's like, I
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: think he had a quote today about getting 60. You know,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: it's like, okay, Ben, we get it. He's good. But
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, shit, he's a star. No way around it.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: Ben Johnson is a star coach who calls the plays.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: It's the issue we all had with Sean Payton the
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: other night. It's like Sean. And I heard, uh, I
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: heard Tom Pellisaro talking about this, you know, Sean, like
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: an Andy Reed, like somebody as they get older, the
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: grind of being the play caller. It's a lot, right?
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: It's a lot. And once you get into your mid sixties,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: it's like, can I take a little off my plate,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: which I understand, but it did just look weird. It
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: really did. Um, Happy week one. What a Sunday. Just
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: listen to you guys, you and Colin's week one reactions.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: I am befuddled how Hurts got criticism. He was the
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: only bright spot. The O-line is atrocious. Dickerson and Juergens
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: are expensive liabilities. I saw some clips of Dickerson, who's
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: now on IR. He looked like he couldn't move. I mean,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: liability is an understatement. And he's, I mean, once, when
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: he was healthy, was a great player. Stud. Love Landon Dickerson.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: But it's, his body's gone. Like, it's over. The O-line
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: couldn't block. He carried the offense. If that was Herbert
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: or Dak, you guys would have praised them for the
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: kind of game. The three and outs are a concern.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: But it's clearly the O-line in the run game being
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: unable to give favorable down and distances to On third down,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: I'm lost how anyone could have watched that game and
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: thought otherwise. What does Hurts have to do to get
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: any credit? I think we just, Jalen Hurts is a
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: good player. His good is excellent. And his bad is awful.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: So like when you watch his games, he's just a bizarre,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: I said this, he's like one of the most bizarre
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: players I've ever watched. Because when he rolls to his
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: right and he throws a deep bomb or throws a
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: deep ball down the left or throws a beautiful pass
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: to Goddard in the back of the end zone or Wicks,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: you're like, and then he'll just have stretches where he's
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: never going to be a great pocket passer. I was
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: talking to a scout yesterday. He's like, the key is
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: you've got to corral him. Caleb is the better version
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: or more physically gifted version. The only way you're going
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: to give yourself a chance against those guys, if you're
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: going to let them run around and make plays, you're done.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: Especially Caleb right now. You got to at least try
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: to have him beat you like he's Tom Brady. If
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: you let him run around, you're toast. And Jalen's the
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: same way. Jalen is a version of what Russell Wilson
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: was in his peak. He makes miraculous plays, which matter
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: when you're scoring touchdowns. And he did that. And to me,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: after going back and watching some of the clips, he
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: had some great runs. And if he runs for some
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: of his flaws, it won't matter. As long as he'll
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: run and gives you some of that explosive passing, you
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: can live with the three and outs. Right? Because their defense,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: in theory, is going to be better. It was week one.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: They should have one of the best defense in the league.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: Though I think I saw Jalen Carter and Cooper Dejean
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: didn't practice today. But, yeah, he's a polarizing player. Every...
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: Everyone I know is shitting on Dak. Dak's interception week
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: one was one of the worst things we've ever seen.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: Most people don't think Herbert is that good. I would
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: say universally, people think Herbert's pretty overrated. Not the NFL,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: not GMs and coaches, but like fans. So like, Jalen's
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: just a hot button topic. Also playing the commanders. You know,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: you don't get a cookie for, you know, throwing some
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: touchdowns on them. Like, it's... I'm sorry. It just is
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: what it is. I'm not anti-Jalen. I'm not pro-Jalen. I'm
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: kind of indifferent. Listen, if he's going to make big plays,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: he can live with them. And they made big plays.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: And they made big plays. It was the longest catch
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: of Wicks' career. Like, is that going to happen every week? God,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: it's a really good player. Like, I said this to Colin.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: And it was clear when you watched him over the
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: last couple years. Like, if their offensive line isn't going
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: to be as good, like, they're going to... Why can't
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: they run... The other thing is, this gets to the
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: Russell Wilson thing. We're always blaming the coordinator. The coordinators
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: always get blamed with Jalen. I mean, shit, they get
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: fired every other year. It's like, maybe some of it's, like,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: the guy has some flaws. Can we just say that?
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: When I get people coming into my DM saying he's
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: a top five quarterback, no, he's not. Is he a
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: good player? Yes. When he plays like that, not last year,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: he was not a good player. But it was like, Patola!
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: Patola!
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: Let's teepee his house. Sean Manion, better be careful. Don't
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: get more first downs. You can get fucking eggs. Back
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: in my day, we used to have a water balloon launcher.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: One time I was probably like 13 or 14. I
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: used to hang out with some of these older guys.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: They were probably like, maybe I was like 12 and
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: they were like ninth grade. So maybe they were like 15-ish, 14.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: We had this water balloon launcher. middle of the summer,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: you're 12, you don't have anything to do, your parents
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: are at work. We used to nail the UPS driver
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: around our house. And if you hit the water balloon launcher, right,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: you have three guys on a water balloon launcher. And
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: it hit the side of the UPS truck and it
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: would make that, you know, it was so big, it
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: made this crazy like echo noise. One day, one of
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: these guys had a golf cart. So we would find him,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: and we would come up with a water balloon launcher,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: and we would blast him. And we had been doing
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: it for, I mean, done it multiple times. The guy
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: got out of the UPS truck, ran down, and the
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: golf cart, especially like, this is probably 97, 98, I mean,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: a golf cart would not go in fast. Gas golf cart,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: you could hear it from a mile away, couldn't have
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: gone more than like... seven, eight miles an hour. This
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: guy caught us so fast. And, uh, let's just say
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: it didn't go well. I got in big trouble. Uh,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: back when spoons and belts were, uh, there wasn't a
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: social media. It was not good. I'm in the middle
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: of a car phone. We all got in fucking big trouble.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: That water balloon launcher. I, was it mine? No, it
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: was some, I definitely got thrown away. Thing was sweet.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: Thing would launch. I miss those days. That's what I'm
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: talking about. Being nostalgic about the 90s. Just simpler times.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: You just had a water balloon launcher. No social media.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: No phones. All you had is to cause trouble. We
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: used to blast into people's houses. We definitely blasted some homes.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: You had to be a little careful. You kind of
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: knew you couldn't hit a window or whatever. in my break.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: But you could definitely get behind some trees and blast
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: some kids you didn't like. Been listening to the podcast
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: for a while. You recently said Drake May was an
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: elite after his performance against Seattle. I don't disagree. Just
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: wondering where you would put him in the current quarterback
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: hierarchy of the league. I think we just, we don't know.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: There is no disputing. He's got a big arm. Throws
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: a beautiful deep ball. Seems like a great guy. Can move.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: Got a lot going for him. But he has now
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: played really, really bad against really good teams. And then
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: big picture after that moment, like guys throw picks. Mahomes
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: just threw a pick. I mean, Purdy Stafford threw a
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: pick on Thursday. Like people throw picks. I don't get
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: as caught up like interceptions happen. Just like drops happen.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: Fumbles happen. I can live with an individual play. Now,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: if you have a drop every game, then we got
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: a problem. Then you got to get benched or cut,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: unless you're a star. Do you have a fumble every game?
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: Same thing. But one fumble every once in a while,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: it's like, it's football. It's going to happen. You're going
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: to throw some picks. If you have a great season,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: you might throw 38 touchdowns and 10 picks. Well, some
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: of those interceptions aren't going to be just random. Some
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: of them are going to just be terrible throws. But
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: the moment at the end of the game, like, There
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: was a reason the video showed Vrabel beelining to him
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: and talking to him on the sideline. It wasn't cussing
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: him out. It was trying to uplift him. Because for
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: as fast as confidence comes as a young person, it
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: can disappear really quickly. And it's difficult to get back.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: And when I saw Vrabel talking to him, in the
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: back of his mind, he goes, we got to keep
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: this guy. Because he made some good plays in that game.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: But the way it unraveled and the way it ended
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: is something like that can carry over. You're playing the
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: Steelers this week. Things could just get weird. So I
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: just think we need to see him play well against
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: good teams. Consistently. It's going to be difficult. A.J. Brown's
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: gone for who knows how long. He's out for the
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: foreseeable future. You never know. They say four or five weeks.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: Could be two months. Romeo Dobbs is kind of like
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: Drake May.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: Like.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: Are we going to bounce back? Are we going to
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: get some catches? Make some big plays? Or is that
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: kind of the guy that has some drops? I don't know.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: We'll see if Travion Henderson can play. On Josh to
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: help him out a little bit too. But it's football.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: In the fourth quarter of a tight game, sometimes it's
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: on the quarterback to make a play. And make a
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: good or bad decision. So where I would rank him is...
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: You can't even discuss him with the elites. I think
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: the question is, he's one of the better young players
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: in the league. Any position. and he's got to take
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: a step against better competition. It's almost like a TBD.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: Call me crazy, but listening to Monday Night Broadcast got
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: me thinking how awful Aikman has become. Zero Juice isn't
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: as critical as he used to be. My question is,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: who do you think the best broadcast duo is in
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: college or the NFL? For me, it's Tessitore and Jesse Palmer.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: I do think, I'd be honest, I wasn't listening that
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: hard on Monday. I had it muted for some of it.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: I watched a little of Peyton Manning and Eli. They
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: had on John Elway. I was kind of going back
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: and forth. I wasn't listening to a lot of the commentary.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: I saw some people commenting on the commentary. Tregman now
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: works for the Dolphins. He's a consultant. And I do
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: wonder if that impacts you a little bit. Remember they
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: gave Brady some of those rules about being critical of
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: the referees. I do think that can be in your
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: head a little bit. I've always enjoyed Troy, but it
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: can be difficult if there are stipulations on what you
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: can and can't say. He did crush Davis Webb. He's like,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: why is he calling plays? I think he's more likely
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: to be critical than most. I would say my favorite broadcasters...
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: That's a good question. I like Collinsworth. I just think
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: him and Tirico, it's a fun watch. Some people hate him.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: I don't mind him at all. I like Troy and Joe.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, Joe just got $ 100 million today. I mean, God,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: football's made a lot of money for a lot of people.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: It is. Whether you're calling the games, whether you're podcasting,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: whether you're executives, coaches, we're not even talking the players.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: Joe bought $ 100 million, which, listen, he's calling the game
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: that 20 million people are watching. If you see these
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: talk show hosts, that have like 400,000 people watching that
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  Speaker 1: are making $ 40 million. Why couldn't Joe? He's calling the game.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: Now you could also argue like if I remove Joe
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  Speaker 1: and just put someone else there, the problem is they
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: tried it and it was a disaster. So it kind
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: of works in Joe's favor. I would say college. I
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: used to love Vern Lundquist and who did he do
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: it with? He's now retired. like in the peak, like
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: 15 years ago, this CBS SEC games.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I like Herbie and Chris Fowler. Tessitore is made for college.
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  Speaker 1: I like Joel Klatt. I mean, he's a pretty diehard
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: Big Ten guy. Again, everyone has their biases. I think
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: most of them are kind of the same. They're fine.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: It doesn't really change my viewing experience that much. It
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: really doesn't. I get more mad when I see someone
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: I despise. Like Jason Garrett comes on my screen. It
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: makes me mad. I'm like, I don't want to watch
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: this right now. But like, you really notice it, especially
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: if you're watching the, you know, I'm watching these four boxes.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: So I pretty often just put the box on the
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: big game, which is typically Nance and Romo, now Nance
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: and Watt, or Brady and Burkhart, for the most part.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: And in the morning, I had it on the Bills-Texans,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: which was Ross Tucker, who did a really good job.
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  Speaker 1: But if you ever listen to the commentary, like the
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: last crew, it can be a little hit or miss
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL. College is just... I think most college
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: guys are pretty good. Maybe I'm wrong. I've become less...
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: I guess I think about it less now because I'm
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: more watching the game thinking about my take. I'm more
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: worried about what my opinion is going to be on
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: what's happening on the screen than anything they're saying. I really,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: I've noticed this on Sunday watching the games. I listen
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: to it more for nuggets they give me that I
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: can use on the show. It's like Ben Johnson told
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: Caleb Williams this year, I'm okay with you running more.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: But that's interesting to me. More than like if they're
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: entertaining me or not. The game's entertaining me. It's kind
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: of how I've shifted a little bit. Would I like
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: all these broadcasters to just be shitting on the coordinators
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: and the coaches?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But that's not happening, really, ever again.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, a couple more questions.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: Do you think that after the game, Kenneth Walker... put
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: the league on notice, and will make teams scheme them differently?
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: How could this allow Patrick to have a huge year
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: in the air because of the threat of running the ball? Well,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: Patrick didn't look that good on Monday. Coming off an
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: ACL injury and a, I think, PCL? He tore multiple
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  Speaker 1: things nine months ago. So I think it's not fair
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  Speaker 1: to totally crush him for being rusty when he's coming
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: off a torn knee and he had a remarkable Adrian
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: Peterson-level comeback to be able to play. But like passing
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: the game, the passing game was a little hit or
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: miss from his accuracy. If Kenneth Walker is going to
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: look like that, if the Chiefs are going to lead
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: the league or be near the league leaders in rushing,
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: they're just a locked double-digit win team. And their passing
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: game will be fine. And if he plays like that,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: breaking tackles, explosive runs, being able to give it to
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: him 20 plus times a game, especially in games they
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: have leads. Yeah, I mean, it just changes their entire franchise.
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  Speaker 1: It allows their defense to get more rest, to be
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: more explosive when they come on the field because their
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: defensive coordinator is excellent. They have young talent. And it
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: just makes it easier on the offensive lineman. They have
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent starting at left tackle. Do I
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: think he can maintain that all season? History would say
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: he can't because he's been banged up. But if he
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: looks like that the majority of the season... the Chiefs
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: are going to be a major fucking problem. I mean, holy.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: That was as good of an individual performance at any
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: position the entire week one. Kenneth Walker. You could argue
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: beside like Derrick Henry, Josh Allen. That was as good
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: as it gets. I didn't see who got player of
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: the week, but I'd have no issue giving Kenneth Walker
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: the player of the week. Against Denver? On your new team?
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: That was remarkable. I'll be honest, I didn't know he
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: was that good. Because even in the Super Bowl, I
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: felt like some of the runs were, maybe it's been
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: a while, maybe I'm misremembering, but just like bigger holes,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: more openings. I mean, I thought some of his most
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: impressive runs were like some of his six, seven yard runs.
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  Speaker 1: Like break a tackle, make a guy miss. Even the
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  Speaker 1: one he took to the crib, he broke the initial
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  Speaker 1: tackle when he got close to kind of getting to
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: the edge. And then the other guy way down the
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: field bounced right off him as he was going like
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: 90 miles an hour. It truly was. Like, I'm not
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: trying to be hyperbolic. Probably the best individual performance of
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: the week, given the expectation. Like, Josh Allen was awesome.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: He's like reigning MVP. I guess Stafford was. But two years,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: he's like best player in the league. Even Henry, as
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: he's getting going, it's like, oh, Derrick Henry just being
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: Derrick Henry. Right? I mean, he is a Hall of Famer.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: When Kenneth Walker was doing it, they're like, wait, this
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: is what Kenneth Walker looks like? Okay, we'll end on this. Obviously,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: John Harbaugh has spoken with Dart about protecting himself. The Giants'
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: first game was great, except for Scadaboo going the backflip
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: in the end zone. My question is, why hasn't anyone
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: convinced Mayfield to settle down and play more control? Tampa
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: paid him. They have proven to him that they want
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: him to be their quarterback. Why can't anyone convince him
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: to calm down? He seems incapable of protecting himself or
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: the football. Also, there is a line in one of
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: the Rocky movies where Mickey says, women weaken the legs.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: And looking at Justin Herbert's girlfriend in the box this
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: past weekend, that movie line immediately came to mind. That's
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: a good question. They definitely do weak in the legs
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: if you're having a good time in the sheets, which
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't blame Justin Herbert. I mean, Justin Herbert in
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: college at Eugene was like a 4.5 student biology major.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's a nerd, but I don't think
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: exactly like Tom Brady hitting the scene. This has to
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: be a pretty... Probably a fun experience for the man.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: Probably pretty enjoyable for Justin Herbert. You know, there's a
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: reason fighters, right? No sex leading up to the fight.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: Isn't that a big thing? You guys, you fight heads?
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: Is that a thing? Fight heads? I don't know. Something
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: to keep an eye on. I would say about Mayfield,
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  Speaker 1: Mayfield and Dart to me are different. Dart was more
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: running around like he was Lamar Jackson and lowering his
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: shoulder on contact. Mayfield does this hero ball, but sometimes
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: it works. It has been part of his story over
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: the last couple years. Definitely a little reckless week one
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: with the ball and running around. You've got to be
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: a little more careful. I think there's just a fine balance.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: You can't just tell a guy not to do anything.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: They're not telling Dart not to scramble around and make plays.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: They're telling him when he runs, either slide or get
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: out of bounds. And I think the other thing is
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: John Harbaugh's Super Bowl champion making $ 20 million a year.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: Todd Bowles is going to tell him that? It does
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: become a little more difficult. If you told me Mike
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: Tomlin was his head coach and that message came through, yeah,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: I think it would have a little more impact. So
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: I think the messenger kind of matters. I'm sure they've
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: talked to Mayfield about being careful with the ball and
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: making good decisions, but I do think the messenger matters,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: you know, just like the messenger with Justin Herbert. I mean,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: that guy, you know, it's like, this is my thing.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: You first get in one of these relationships. If you're
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: not used to it, I don't care what you do
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: for a living. Like, are you still going to be
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: the first guy to the office? Are you still going
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: to be the last guy in the office? Where she's like, hey,
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: I'm waiting for you at home with dinner. And you're like, ah,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: I'm seeing five. You know? It's a good point. Let's
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: watch his leg strength moving forward. The Volume.