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- 2:20you get decapitated.
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- 4:08Hey, everybody.
- 4:09We are back.
- 4:10It's another episode of Blurred's Eye View.
- 4:11I am your host, captain of the ship, man on the wall, Chris Fury.
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- 5:29Mal, Mal's in the building.
- 5:30What's going on?
- 5:31Mal?
- 5:31Patrick Sheffield, what's going on?
- 5:33Patrick, what's going on?
- 5:35Bama's in the building.
- 5:36Bama boobies.
- 5:37I am here.
- 5:38He never gets to actually hear me say boobies.
- 5:40I am here.
- 5:41But I, I, I, I aim to please the fans.
- 5:46But yes, all your nerdy news that you want to get, all your entertainment I advice and such is happening here.
- 5:55It's hot, it's new, it's fresh.
- 5:57And like I said, we held to take that edge off.
- 6:00So edge off that the rest of the world just keeps wanting to pile on.
- 6:05So I need to know in the comments section, for those who's already here, how's everybody's week been going?
- 6:13Because it's been, it's been a busy week.
- 6:17If you're not working your regular 9 to 5, you're trying to figure things out.
- 6:21Bama, I know Bama is.
- 6:24He's debating on doing a podcast.
- 6:25Bama, you.
- 6:26I've seen what you've been doing.
- 6:28Do the podcast.
- 6:30Do the podcast, my guy.
- 6:32So go ahead and do do the thing.
- 6:35Do the thing without what I One of the things we do here on this platform is we encourage and I'm encouraging you to go ahead and make that joke.
- 6:45If you don't do it, somebody else will.
- 6:46And.
- 6:47And there's nothing worse than having that feeling of that should have, could have, would have situation.
- 6:52Go ahead, start the show.
- 6:53Do that thing.
- 6:54Start that business.
- 6:56Don't be afraid to take that leap.
- 6:57That's one of those things where, especially now, where there's no certainty in anything.
- 7:05So you might as well dive into the uncertainty of life.
- 7:09It is what it is.
- 7:11We'll be talking about a couple things tonight.
- 7:13Waiting on the rest of the crew to come through, but we'll be talking about Peacemaker Season 2, episode 3.
- 7:18There was no new episode last night.
- 7:21Okay.
- 7:24James Gunn has already stated that episodes 6, 7, and 8 will not be seen early by anyone due to a lot of spoilery stuff.
- 7:37Ah, it's James Gunn.
- 7:40You never know what this man is getting ready to to plan.
- 7:44They're giving us a week break, it looks like.
- 7:47Since nothing's been going on.
- 7:49I know.
- 7:50I've been watching Wednesday.
- 7:52I have one more episode to watch from Wednesday and check that out.
- 7:57People are saying they're not really liking the show.
- 7:59Am I me?
- 8:00I like it.
- 8:01It's a nice vibe.
- 8:03But see, here's the thing about people in the the fickleness that people have when it comes to a lot of shows that's on streaming services.
- 8:14Shows or streaming services like Net with Netflix prime, even hbo, Max or Max or HBO or whatever they want to be called during the week.
- 8:31They take extremely long hiatuses from a lot of shows.
- 8:38They, they take a lot of hiatus, long hiatuses from a lot of shows.
- 8:42And actually, no, wait, today's Thursday, right?
- 8:46So, no, we should get a Peacemaker show tonight, I think.
- 8:49Yeah, we should get a Peacemaker show tonight.
- 8:50I'm thinking Yesterday was the, the new night show.
- 8:52I was looking for it.
- 8:53But yeah, they take these very long breaks and it's really hard for people to get back into them.
- 9:02And that's part of the issue, I feel is part of the issue.
- 9:06A lot of people, they get stuck and they don't know what to watch or they're moved on to something else.
- 9:14And in case of some other shows, it's been so long that they've just lost interest.
- 9:19Patrick says, yeah, the Utah thing, yeah, it was something.
- 9:23It was trying to get some News on doomsday.
- 9:25Like, look, Tafari TV says it best.
- 9:30Leave us out of it.
- 9:32We ain't celebrating no death or anything like that.
- 9:36We're just saying if you put bad into the world, karma just has a way.
- 9:43That's all I'm saying.
- 9:44Karma.
- 9:46Karma has a way.
- 9:47So it could be, it could be a fickle thing.
- 9:53It could be a fickle thing.
- 9:54But yeah, the long breaks between streaming shows can be daunting, to the point.
- 10:04Okay, perfect example.
- 10:09Lost in Space, the, the newest version of Lost in Space that was on Netflix.
- 10:14It, it had a pretty good run.
- 10:15I think it went, I think it went three seasons.
- 10:20But by the time that final season came about, almost five years had almost passed.
- 10:30Between three to four.
- 10:31Between three to four years had almost gone by.
- 10:35You pretty much forgot what happened the previous season.
- 10:39You have to re.
- 10:40Watch it, at least re watch the last two or three episodes of the previous season to kind of get an understanding of what happened.
- 10:47And then by the time the new season comes around and this is, and that's if you're invested, that's if you're still invested in the show, by the time the new season comes around, if you haven't watched the final
- 11:01two or three episodes to kind of get a refresher throws you off, you come in, you're lost, you don't know what's going on.
- 11:12It's, it's, it's a daunting thing and it's, it's weird.
- 11:15It's weird.
- 11:15And you know, Stranger Things is a prime example that they have gone so long that, which, which was started off as a running joke of by the time they get to the new season, these kids will be an
- 11:32adult.
- 11:32These kids will be adults and covet hit.
- 11:35And sure enough, that whole thing got put on hiatus for the longest time.
- 11:40And then when it came back by the time restrictions were lifted and everything else, you still had to re.
- 11:45You had to coordinate everybody's schedules.
- 11:47You had to get everything back together.
- 11:52And here we are, final season coming in the fall and they're using there.
- 11:57They, they're airing them as quote, unquote, movies.
- 12:02The episodes are now like movies.
- 12:05Think of it like Doctor who, even classic Doctor who.
- 12:10They would air, they would have short seasons, but they're short seasons.
- 12:15It would be like hour and a half the hour.
- 12:20The episodes would be like an hour and a half.
- 12:22Yeah, Umbrella Academy prime, another prime example.
- 12:25That was a long one that by the time they came back, it was just like, what, what's going on?
- 12:32Like You.
- 12:32You.
- 12:32You're completely lost.
- 12:34And.
- 12:34And be honest with you, they screwed them on that last season.
- 12:37That last season was not it.
- 12:39It was not it.
- 12:42Yeah.
- 12:43Ua.
- 12:43Yeah.
- 12:44Yeah, yeah.
- 12:45That's.
- 12:45That.
- 12:46That it did.
- 12:47It took way too long for Umbrella Academy.
- 12:50And like I said by the unknown about what's going on, Tafari, he's in the building.
- 13:01Like, I'm talking about, like, some of the shows that take breaks in between the seasons and how long it is that by the time the new season shows up, you're either completely confused, not invested, or you have to
- 13:19go back and watch like, the last.
- 13:20The previous season's last two, maybe three episodes just to kind of get a refresher.
- 13:26Hey, look, stranger things.
- 13:27I'm gonna need y' all to come on down before the congregation because.
- 13:33The.
- 13:33Kids are all grown up, married or doing other projects now.
- 13:36It might be hard to get them back.
- 13:38Like, it's.
- 13:38And it's.
- 13:39That's the thing.
- 13:39It's coming back this fall.
- 13:42They got the lineup and everything.
- 13:43But like he said, the girl that played 11 is now 2122 and married.
- 13:52So.
- 13:53And.
- 13:54And she's.
- 13:54I think she's the.
- 13:56I think she's the only one in that crew is another.
- 13:58See, here's the thing.
- 13:59Now, Patrick mentions Reacher.
- 14:01Reacher's a little different.
- 14:04I don't think they take as long as a break with Reacher.
- 14:08And not to mention, they're getting ready to do a spin off of that with his one partner, the female.
- 14:14I can't remember her name right now, but they're doing a matter of fact.
- 14:18I think they're done shooting that, shooting the spin off, and they're probably.
- 14:21And I think they're on to the new season of Reacher.
- 14:24But see, that's one of those things.
- 14:28They don't space it out.
- 14:29It's.
- 14:29It's House of Dragons.
- 14:31It's.
- 14:31It's Game of Thrones.
- 14:33It's Generation is Generation V.
- 14:37It's the Boys.
- 14:38It's Stranger Things.
- 14:39It Wednesday.
- 14:41Like, even.
- 14:43Even my little girl said it.
- 14:44She was like, she's watching Wednesday.
- 14:45She was like, wait, is that the same Pugsley?
- 14:47Yeah, it is.
- 14:48It's the same actor.
- 14:50It's just.
- 14:51He's.
- 14:52He was a kid.
- 14:52He hit a growth spurt.
- 14:57That second TMNT movie, them kids are all gonna come back sounding like grown adults unless they get a whole new cast.
- 15:03Their voices were already cracking, like, mid movie, so.
- 15:06Yeah, yeah, because they were actual preteen slash teenagers in the TMT TMNT movie, they Were.
- 15:14So by the time they drop that, they're gonna.
- 15:18They're gonna have several octaves dropped in their voice.
- 15:21It's crazy.
- 15:23It's crazy.
- 15:24I.
- 15:24And.
- 15:25And I'm sure you won't have that problem with Blurred Station.
- 15:29I'm just saying we have a.
- 15:31An extensive lineup that's continually growing.
- 15:34The library is growing.
- 15:36Speaking.
- 15:37Which if you check out Hill spawn Legacy now Hill spawn Legacy on either Tick Tock or ig.
- 15:44Either one or.
- 15:45Or Facebook.
- 15:47We are now getting voice actors.
- 15:49We're.
- 15:49We're talking to a lot of black voice actors.
- 15:52So look out for that.
- 15:56If you are a black voice actor with talent, not you've actually done some voice work not trying to get into the game, but because, you know, I know eventually we'll get to that point.
- 16:07But yeah, it's.
- 16:08It does that.
- 16:09It does.
- 16:14Bama says I need to get back into Reacher's good.
- 16:16He said I need to get back into Reacher and I might stop Alex Cross.
- 16:19Reacher's good.
- 16:20Is that all in the same room?
- 16:22Am I thinking of different shows that are connected?
- 16:25That's a different show.
- 16:26Cross.
- 16:27Cross is a different show.
- 16:29I mean, this is.
- 16:29It's different universe.
- 16:30Different universe.
- 16:31Same network.
- 16:32Different universe.
- 16:33So, yeah, there was a series of.
- 16:36Them based on, like, Tom Clancy books for a while, wasn't there?
- 16:39Oh, that's not Reacher.
- 16:43That's.
- 16:45It.
- 16:45Wasn't Jim from the Office like the star one?
- 16:47Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 16:49Ah, what is the name of that?
- 16:52Because Ben Affleck has played that character before.
- 16:57I can't think of the name.
- 16:58But yeah, I think they're done with their.
- 16:59Their latest season.
- 17:02They just.
- 17:03They don't air these things like they used to.
- 17:05And see, here's the thing.
- 17:09People are wondering, like, about films and going straight to streaming when the short window and everything.
- 17:15This is something that Hollywood was trying to do prior to Covid.
- 17:22They were already kind of playing with the idea of films going to straight video on demand.
- 17:28So, like, you could, like, even though it was released in the theaters this weekend, you.
- 17:32You could still watch it on video on demand when that was still a thing.
- 17:35And Jack Ryan.
- 17:37That's what it was.
- 17:38Thanks.
- 17:39Yeah.
- 17:39Jack Ryan.
- 17:40Okay.
- 17:40That's what it was.
- 17:42And so getting.
- 17:46Getting those films going straight to the streaming networks, that was something that was going.
- 17:50That was going to happen eventually.
- 17:53They.
- 17:53They all these major networks or major production companies.
- 17:57This.
- 17:57This was always going to happen.
- 17:59It just coveted.
- 18:00Gave it a kickstart.
- 18:02What's going on, Christy?
- 18:05Yeah, that covert just gave it a kickstart that's all.
- 18:09And it gave it like a covet.
- 18:13Gave it like a 5 to 10 year kickstart.
- 18:16What we got now, we wouldn't.
- 18:17We wouldn't.
- 18:18If covet hadn't happened, what we're dealing with now would have come maybe five, 10 years down the line, maybe five to seven.
- 18:27So we were always gonna have short movie runs.
- 18:31It's like they're trying to cut out a middleman.
- 18:36That's what.
- 18:36As long as we're not doing that 30 Disney+ pay for it directly thing anymore because.
- 18:41Well, no, y' all lost Scarlett Johansson over that one.
- 18:45Yeah, that was.
- 18:46I'm like, what is this?
- 18:48I'm like, no, I'll just buy the Blu Ray.
- 18:51Screw it, by the way, still.
- 18:54But they.
- 18:55They're trying to phase out Blu Rays.
- 18:59It's damn near impossible.
- 19:02They're not.
- 19:02They, they're still selling Blu Rays.
- 19:04They're just trying to cut back.
- 19:06Who's selling Blu Rays right now?
- 19:08Best Buy no longer selling Blu Rays.
- 19:10And Best Buy hasn't seen me since.
- 19:13Yeah, there's like, there's nothing.
- 19:15Matter of fact, that was the last thing left, really.
- 19:17Best Buy was Blu Rays because it's like, you don't want to go there to grab any games, you know, so.
- 19:28And.
- 19:28And everything else is priced way too high.
- 19:32So, like.
- 19:33Yeah, Blu Rays was.
- 19:35There was their last bread and butter.
- 19:36And all of that's now at.
- 19:38At Walmart.
- 19:41All that stuff is at Walmart now.
- 19:43Yep.
- 19:44Streaming is killing the 26 episode season.
- 19:46It is it, it's, it's, it's.
- 19:49It.
- 19:49Decapped, kneecapped it.
- 19:53Now you get like 6 to 12 or you get 12 in two seasons, but it's the first season chopped into 6 or it's 26, but the two seasons are chopped into 13.
- 20:02Like I'm pretty sure the season of King of The Hill was 20 episodes.
- 20:04They only took the first 10, though.
- 20:07Yeah.
- 20:07And still.
- 20:08And still fiddling and fiddling with it.
- 20:10In, in, in.
- 20:13I hate it.
- 20:14I hate it because when.
- 20:16When you have a really good show and you get eight, 10 episodes.
- 20:22Eight to 10 episodes if you're lucky.
- 20:25And then they.
- 20:26And they're still taking a damn near a year and some change after the season finale of whatever that is.
- 20:36Nightmare fuel.
- 20:38Hey, I might want to buy whatever DVD comes out for the season of South Park.
- 20:41They already pulling episodes and we're only four in, so.
- 20:46Wasn'T that supposed to be.
- 20:47It was supposed to be a repeat, though.
- 20:49I think it was supposed to be a Repeat.
- 20:51Comedy Central said, we're not doing that.
- 20:53Paramount plus said, you owe us seven bucks if you wanted it.
- 20:57I think, I think what it was is like they were just like, yeah, we might cross a line.
- 21:03That's what it was.
- 21:04It was like, oh, now you found your line.
- 21:07I need to cross the line.
- 21:08Nobody even comes to you all for specials anymore.
- 21:10Netflix took all the comedians and your money.
- 21:13That's it.
- 21:15That's it.
- 21:16Bama said like British television, American TV is copying that model.
- 21:19Yes, they are.
- 21:23How they.
- 21:23That's how they.
- 21:24Doctor who is going on what, 60 year run?
- 21:30Yeah, close to 60 years.
- 21:32I'll see.
- 21:32Because I had a roommate who got me into bridge tv.
- 21:34He had me watching.
- 21:35I don't think it was called Sherlock.
- 21:36I think it was called Moriarty with Benedict Cumberbatch playing it.
- 21:40And he's like, yeah, every episode is like two hours long.
- 21:43But they only.
- 21:43Oh no, that was Sherlock.
- 21:44Yeah, that's Sherlock.
- 21:45What's it called?
- 21:45Sure.
- 21:46Okay.
- 21:46Yeah, yeah, he has like.
- 21:48Every episode is like super long.
- 21:50But they like, they, they drop it in like batches so you can like ingest it.
- 21:54But they at least had like a better release window.
- 21:56I think they did.
- 21:57They had a much better, like they had a.
- 21:59They had a much better release window and they had a wider base like you had.
- 22:05It would be on BBC America.
- 22:08Then it will be on pbs.
- 22:10They will show like.
- 22:11So they had a.
- 22:11They had a wider base and it was showing somewhere else too, but they had a wider base.
- 22:19They had about a better release like you said.
- 22:21They had better batches, better batch release.
- 22:24And they.
- 22:24And like I said, they were giving you movies.
- 22:27They weren't giving you, oh, here's a 45 minute special or here's an hour special.
- 22:31Like, no, they're giving you a good hour and a half, two hour show or movie for that matter.
- 22:37They're.
- 22:38They're going to give.
- 22:39It was better condensed, I guess.
- 22:44I'm gonna need a recap of Stranger Things.
- 22:45I'm not re watching.
- 22:46What was it, like 6:2?
- 22:48That last episode was so long.
- 22:50I lost like a good chunk of my work day watching in the background.
- 22:53Like I thought.
- 22:53I thought maybe I missed something.
- 22:55I'm like, we went from the desert to like military people to back to these kids, to the Demogorgon.
- 23:00I, I watched, I watched still on the same episode.
- 23:04Like, yeah, I went to the.
- 23:06Yeah, that was the last episode I actually re watched where Hopper was in the prison with, with Winona Ryder.
- 23:15Eleven was in a, in a, a made up deprivation tank to help.
- 23:23I can't.
- 23:23The redhead because that was like a mindscape.
- 23:27Eddie and Eddie and.
- 23:30Oh, I can't remember the kid's name, but they were actually.
- 23:33They were in one part of the Upside down fighting a little bats, playing the rock music.
- 23:37I'm like, this is all in one episode.
- 23:39Yeah.
- 23:40Every time I blink, I'm missing something.
- 23:42Steve and, and Nancy and the other girl, they were still.
- 23:45They were in the Upside down, but they were in a totally different part of the Upside Down.
- 23:49So.
- 23:49Yeah, it was.
- 23:51Yeah, it was a lot going on in that episode.
- 23:57Dustin.
- 23:57Dustin.
- 23:58That's his name.
- 23:58Yeah.
- 23:59I feel like they always.
- 24:00I don't.
- 24:00I haven't watched Wednesday, but I feel like when it comes to like these shows wrapping up.
- 24:03They dropped that last season too late.
- 24:05Stranger things.
- 24:05Some kids ain't even kids anymore.
- 24:07Umbrella Academy was just like, all right.
- 24:09That.
- 24:10That took long for no reason whatsoever.
- 24:12I've heard I shouldn't even bother with the last season of Seven Deadly Sins.
- 24:17And then somebody just threw dear white people off a cliff.
- 24:19Like, it's like, yeah, because you, you have.
- 24:25There was a time where especially Netflix, there was a time where they showed a good show and people clamored for I need to know more.
- 24:35I need more.
- 24:36Like, the Santa Clarita Diet is a good horror comedy with Drew Barrymore and Nathan Fillion hasn't has an appearance in it.
- 24:47I, I think Alan Tudor Cat shows up at one point, but it's a good.
- 24:51Timothy Oliphant is playing the husband.
- 24:54There was a lot going on in that show because I don't want to spoil it, even though it's been a couple years, but there was a lot going on in the show.
- 25:03And I think it went five seasons.
- 25:04And that fifth season, their season finale ended up being their series finale.
- 25:09And it was such a cliffhanger that it was just like, well, what the heck happened?
- 25:15You could have gave us a.
- 25:17You could have gave us one wrap up for a movie if you weren't going to give them a whole season.
- 25:20But that's when we were finding out, hey, they start these, these stars out at a certain cap.
- 25:29And then as if they progress, if another season's added, another season's at it, they got paying more money.
- 25:37Where's the money coming from?
- 25:39Netflix.
- 25:40How we getting all this money?
- 25:41It ain't.
- 25:42It ain't all through subscription.
- 25:44They got to pull this money somewhere.
- 25:46It's just like.
- 25:47It's like your local television stations.
- 25:49Those, those like cw.
- 25:52The cw.
- 25:53CW wasn't making any money.
- 25:56It wasn't making any money.
- 25:57It was getting a lot of viewership, especially during the.
- 26:00The Arrowverse era.
- 26:02I was gonna say, what was cw?
- 26:03Once UBN flipped into it, like, before the Arrowverse, I really was like, y.
- 26:08This guy, like Smallville reruns.
- 26:09And I think Friends, like, what else is over there?
- 26:12Yeah, they went from.
- 26:14They went from.
- 26:16At least here in Cleveland, it went from channel 43 to channel 55 to UPN, then to UPN to CW.
- 26:28And then like in the last legs of it, it changed to.
- 26:31See, I think they changed the CW55 or something, but it changed over to CW and then it became all teen drama stuff.
- 26:38Vampire Diaries, the Supernatural and everything else.
- 26:43And then they kind of struck Smallville.
- 26:46Then they struck gold.
- 26:48You know, after those two shows, after Smallville ended, they started hitting gold with Supernatural, and then they started bringing on vampire shows, and then they started bringing in Vampire Diaries.
- 27:01And it was.
- 27:03Let me see, was it Archie?
- 27:05Was that one of those networks that was forcing seventh Heaven on all of us?
- 27:08Yeah, it was like, in the.
- 27:10In between there.
- 27:10Like, in between there.
- 27:117.
- 27:127 Heaven was thrown in there.
- 27:14And then like, late night was like.
- 27:16Like you said, friends repeats and Whose Line Is It Anyway?
- 27:22Stuff like that.
- 27:22Drew.
- 27:23Drew Carey reruns.
- 27:25Which, by the way, the Drew Carey show was hilarious.
- 27:30It was.
- 27:31It wasn't just that it took place in Cleveland.
- 27:33That show was actually pretty damn funny.
- 27:37I feel like I remember it.
- 27:38I don't remember.
- 27:38See, I was like, too young for.
- 27:40A lot of them.
- 27:40Say Carlos.
- 27:41Like, I remember they would have random.
- 27:42There was some show.
- 27:43I don't know who.
- 27:44The white woman that was starring in it.
- 27:46She was the Melissa McCarthy of her time.
- 27:48But I remember they had like an episode with actual Daffy Duck was in it, just ruining her off.
- 27:52It's like.
- 27:52And I cannot for the life of me remember what show it was.
- 27:55Oh, my God.
- 27:55Now I gotta.
- 27:56I gotta go back in my memory banking track that one.
- 27:59But yeah, it's.
- 28:00They.
- 28:01They did that.
- 28:01Those.
- 28:02Those type of networks, they don't make any money because you don't really think about that.
- 28:07It was.
- 28:08It's like afterthoughts.
- 28:11Yeah, yeah, Mal.
- 28:12Yeah, yeah, it was.
- 28:14Drew Carey was hilarious.
- 28:16Like, that was where I got first when he.
- 28:22He actually does Batman's voice in.
- 28:24In the Brave and the Bold, that's when I got introduced to him.
- 28:27So when they did Batman, Brave and the Bold, and I'm like, the guy from Drew Carey is doing that now.
- 28:35That you made that connection I think I do remember a few episodes of it, but like that show King of Queens, like, King of Queens is hilarious.
- 28:42A little bit of My Name is Earl, that type of stuff.
- 28:45Yeah, those were.
- 28:47Those are funny.
- 28:47So King of Queens is hilarious.
- 28:51Drew Carey is funny as hell.
- 28:53I never got into the Office, although, like, clips that they show were actually funny clips.
- 28:59I tried and I was just like, oh, this ain't for me.
- 29:02I like it.
- 29:03It was very much the.
- 29:04The college Netflix binge of the time, because I know they got.
- 29:10I know they got the paper now, which I'm hearing is really good.
- 29:13The Office, I think is worth a good watch.
- 29:15At least one time through Daffy was.
- 29:18Oh, that was the Drew Carey Show.
- 29:19B.
- 29:20Yeah.
- 29:20Yeah.
- 29:21That means.
- 29:22That means the girl.
- 29:23That means it was Drew Carey's nemesis who ends up later becoming his sister in law because she marries his brother.
- 29:32He was like.
- 29:32It was like her.
- 29:33His office enemy.
- 29:34That's what she was.
- 29:35It was off his enemy.
- 29:36And.
- 29:37And.
- 29:37And he used to always tease her about all the makeup she wore because he didn't look right.
- 29:42Like, they even made a joke, like if you put makeup on a pig and he looked at her and she was like, I dare you to say Mimi.
- 29:50That was her name, Mimi.
- 29:53When I actually seen her without makeup, like the actual actress without makeup, I'm like, she looked totally different.
- 30:01They just like caked on eyeshadow and makeup and rouge and blush.
- 30:07But no, no, a lot of they had.
- 30:09They had a good.
- 30:10A lot of those shows had a good run.
- 30:12And actually Drew Carey had one of the better intros to a show, to us, to a sitcom, highlighted a lot of spots in Cleveland and big dance numbers and everything.
- 30:28It was.
- 30:29It was a.
- 30:29It was an event.
- 30:32So Dietrich Bader is the voice of Batman.
- 30:38That's what I was first.
- 30:39I was first introduced to Dietrich Bader on Drew Carey and when they announced him for Batman, Brave and Abold, which, by the way, not a bad cartoon, it's actually good, is.
- 30:51I'm surprised it's not mentioned enough when it comes to talking about Batman cartoons.
- 30:58So, yeah, a lot of that was right on point.
- 31:00Kings of King of Queens is absolutely downright ridiculous.
- 31:08That was Brave in the bowl was a good one.
- 31:10That was one of the few, like I watched start to finish.
- 31:13And then when they did, just the most ridiculous way of canceling it with Bad Mike just putting all his fan fictions in and be like, all right.
- 31:19And then the whole cast comes on to say goodbye.
- 31:22Yeah, I'm just like, oh, I Guess this is like the last.
- 31:24Last episode.
- 31:25I thought y' all were joking.
- 31:26And then it just didn't come on anymore.
- 31:28Yep.
- 31:28And Young justice, if anybody still remembers the show, if they ever get a Fitz season, because they did.
- 31:34Y' all gonna do another time skip or what's gonna happen?
- 31:37Because y' all have, like, Damian Wayne is a baby.
- 31:40Red Hood's still hostage and just never gonna get rescued.
- 31:43Mara has been in the Phantom Zone, and somehow none of the Black Tony has bothered to help her.
- 31:48It.
- 31:49It good, man.
- 31:52For as good as Young justice is, they did that show dirty.
- 31:57Well, seeing how we.
- 31:58We just got a Red Hood comic cancel today, I can see which direction WB is trying to go in.
- 32:03Good Lord.
- 32:04Yeah, they're getting bought by Paramount.
- 32:06Skydance now, so.
- 32:07Or at least that's the deal.
- 32:09Where's my straw hats?
- 32:12Whoopty.
- 32:13What's going on?
- 32:15Nothing.
- 32:16Nothing.
- 32:16My computer hates me.
- 32:18Every four days, it decides, you know, you need to do two reboots in order to get me working.
- 32:26What your computer say?
- 32:27N.
- 32:28Boo.
- 32:29Do it again.
- 32:30Just.
- 32:30Just a little double jump start.
- 32:32You know, it lures you into a false sense of, you know, this is gonna work, and you get excited, and then it goes, nah.
- 32:40Right.
- 32:41So we.
- 32:44Again, we're gonna jump right Into Peacemaker Season 2, episode 3.
- 32:53I have some theories about this alternate universe that Chris has gone in, but I.
- 33:01I'm not ready to say it yet.
- 33:04I'm waiting to see how it unfolds.
- 33:08I'm waiting.
- 33:10Okay, so it's about everybody talking about the background.
- 33:15Because I didn't peep.
- 33:16Yeah, it is.
- 33:17Yeah.
- 33:17Yeah.
- 33:18I didn't.
- 33:18I didn't notice until somebody pointed it out this episode.
- 33:22It's because.
- 33:22And then when.
- 33:23When they mentioned when it.
- 33:24So.
- 33:24So this is.
- 33:25This is the theory that that's running around in my head, and it's starting to add up.
- 33:31So when we.
- 33:31Obviously, when we see Peacemaker Season 2 open up and he sees his father, which is called the Blue Dragon, over in the other.
- 33:39In the other world.
- 33:42And I thought that was an odd choice.
- 33:44And I said, oh, he still has the same costume.
- 33:47It's just the color scheme is different.
- 33:48And what the theory is that some people are already saying is there's nobody that look like us in the backgrounds at all.
- 34:00At all.
- 34:02And that is very telling.
- 34:05And at first, you know, you don't see a lot of background people.
- 34:08You just see it, like when Chris is on his motorcycle and everybody's yelling his name and he's being adored by fans.
- 34:13And everything else, everything so far looks peaceful.
- 34:20You don't even pick that up.
- 34:21You just know people are screaming his name.
- 34:24They're happy his brother's alive.
- 34:25His dad is saying he loves them.
- 34:27And they're.
- 34:28Apparently, they stay in a nice house.
- 34:30They're considered their top three heroes in.
- 34:33In that world.
- 34:37He dated Hardcourt, used to date her in that world.
- 34:41Still has ties to her, goes over there.
- 34:45So the theory is that not only do they not see people of color, but they're trying to say that this might be Earth X.
- 34:54And if you remember Earth X from one of the many crossovers from the Arrowverse, Earth X is where the Nazis won.
- 35:03Yeah.
- 35:07And I said, oh, this might be why the son's liberty are there.
- 35:16And if there's no background actors that look like us or Asian or Latino or anything like that.
- 35:24And why his father is so considered one of the top heroes.
- 35:28And it was like, he still has that same.
- 35:30The Blue Dragon look.
- 35:31And it was like, oh, that would make a little sense when they put it.
- 35:38Somebody pointed out that's also why they're saying bloodhaven like that, because they would have adopted the dialect and the way that they say, like, certain vowels.
- 35:46So it's instead of blood, it's blued.
- 35:48Yeah, yeah, that part.
- 35:51So now I'm like, oh, damn.
- 35:54Because we've been trying to figure out what is wrong with if.
- 35:58If everything looks so right, what is wrong in this world that makes you wonder now?
- 36:06Because I'm trying to think.
- 36:07Did they mention Waller at all?
- 36:10They just mentioned ARGUS they don't mention Waller.
- 36:12I don't believe we haven't seen any of his.
- 36:18Of his other friends over there.
- 36:20We haven't seen their counterparts at all.
- 36:22Or he heard them being mentioned.
- 36:24I don't know if we will.
- 36:27I would think I would.
- 36:28I would care to think they.
- 36:29They could show up.
- 36:30But I think that's when Chris is going to realize, like, oh, it's not the word you think it is.
- 36:40It's.
- 36:40It's everything you want as far as your personals, you know, hardcore.
- 36:46You used to date hardcore.
- 36:47Y' all looked happy.
- 36:49You know, your father is alive, and he's a loving father.
- 36:52Your brother is alive.
- 36:53You know, you're considered one of the great heroes.
- 36:58You're respected, you're adored.
- 37:01Downside.
- 37:06Right.
- 37:06Okay.
- 37:06At the beginning was hardcore and.
- 37:08And flag a thing before all of this happened.
- 37:12They allude to that one in this reality.
- 37:15Yes.
- 37:16But they don't mention it nowhere else.
- 37:19Like, I couldn't tell.
- 37:20We were talking about our home, D.C.
- 37:23or the.
- 37:23The other one that.
- 37:25The other.
- 37:26The other one.
- 37:28The other one.
- 37:31Both, actually.
- 37:33Because I know she's dating.
- 37:34She's dating like the dork version of Rick Flag.
- 37:36Yeah.
- 37:37But then when they're like, oh, yeah, by the way, like, I feel like this opens a whole new can of worms to y'.
- 37:42All.
- 37:42Like, relation, friendship.
- 37:44Because, like, he also killed your friend and someone you cared about.
- 37:47Yeah.
- 37:48I'm not sure if, like, you know that, but his dad knows.
- 37:52So in.
- 37:52In our DC world, Hardcore and Flag were.
- 37:57We're getting it in.
- 38:00They were getting it in.
- 38:01But, you know, Hardcore isn't like a relationship.
- 38:04At least this is our version of Hardcore isn't a relationship type person.
- 38:08So she's probably just happy with just getting it in.
- 38:12Flag, on the other hand, he's.
- 38:13He's stuck dealing with June, who's a witch, and so didn't she die or.
- 38:19Like in the first Suicide Squad or what.
- 38:21What happened with Enchantress again?
- 38:22I forgot.
- 38:23Enchantress.
- 38:25I know.
- 38:25The demon took her out or tried to.
- 38:30Yes, they took her out.
- 38:32They took her out.
- 38:33Yes.
- 38:34Because that was afterwards.
- 38:38Because that scene where they show Flag and Hardcore in bed together.
- 38:41June is still alive.
- 38:43The whole events hadn't opened up yet.
- 38:46Those events hadn't opened up yet.
- 38:49So it wasn't until he made fun of.
- 38:51Of Waller's shirt, he gets stuck on the mission.
- 38:57So.
- 39:00So, yeah, see, I'm like, does she know that?
- 39:02Does nobody know that he killed Rick Flag Jr.
- 39:05Because I'm like, that feels weird that she's been assigned him this whole time.
- 39:08And I think that's just an argument waiting to happen that should have happened, like, way sooner.
- 39:13I think.
- 39:15The events of Peacemaker taking out Flag, who knows John Economies, if John economist knows it, the rest of the team knows it.
- 39:29Yeah, yeah.
- 39:31Because even.
- 39:31Even at a bio knows.
- 39:33So, yeah, the team knows.
- 39:35They just haven't said anything.
- 39:38And it wasn't until Rick Flag senior asked.
- 39:40He.
- 39:41Like, I think he had.
- 39:42Rick Flag senior had precautions of knowing, you know, he had.
- 39:47He was like, I.
- 39:48I think something's up.
- 39:49And I.
- 39:50Nobody's really telling me what happened to my kid.
- 39:53And he.
- 39:53And he knows Waller, obviously.
- 39:55Right.
- 39:56I feel like now that you have authority, that's who you need to be cussing out instead of trying to just take waste resources chasing this man down.
- 40:04So, yeah, he.
- 40:05He.
- 40:05He's.
- 40:08Yeah, is.
- 40:11I just seen lady over in the chat.
- 40:14Yeah, Mal.
- 40:15It's Earth part, you're right.
- 40:16Ours is Earth Prime.
- 40:17Which will be discussed.
- 40:19How do you legalize killing an eagle for what, like, 12 hours or whatever myriad mysterious time window they got?
- 40:27Well, he hasn't done it yet.
- 40:29The eagle hunter.
- 40:30He hasn't done it yet.
- 40:31He's just been tasked with hunting him down.
- 40:34He's gonna fail.
- 40:35We know that he's gonna fail.
- 40:37If anything, Eagly might get slightly injured, but, yeah, I.
- 40:44I don't.
- 40:44And then judo master, like, y' all don't have this, like, little man locked up on war crimes at this point.
- 40:50Like, he still tried to sell y' all out for reasons we don't fully understand.
- 40:55Last.
- 40:55What was his code name?
- 40:57What did they call him?
- 40:59That's what they opened up the back of the truck and condomals was like, oh.
- 41:08He can't win.
- 41:09He's just like, I.
- 41:13Did you have any takeaways from this episode?
- 41:16I haven't finished watching it, so I'm just soaking it.
- 41:18Are you.
- 41:19Are you looking at it right now?
- 41:21Maybe.
- 41:26Maybe.
- 41:29Okay.
- 41:29I feel like I was talking too much, but go ahead.
- 41:35No, I.
- 41:35It's just.
- 41:38My running theory is that the dude we met in the first episode was a complete fake too.
- 41:42I feel like he already pulled what our John is pulling or what our Chris is pulling, and he thought he was about to give this.
- 41:49He thought somebody else was about to come and basically steal his thunder and then ended up doing himself in.
- 41:54Somebody else hadn't said something to the effect that, you know, obviously, as he said, it's like 99 universes, he said, and he's probably a Dick in all 99 universes.
- 42:07And he probably assumed in that one he wasn't.
- 42:16So fun for that.
- 42:17Like, we've had.
- 42:17I feel like it's.
- 42:19Yes, he's a douche, but it's like, it's.
- 42:21It's.
- 42:21Even his whole family seems nice, but it's like, oh, you were, like, exactly the same here, but potentially worse.
- 42:28Yeah.
- 42:28And we.
- 42:29And as far as his brother Keith, we wouldn't.
- 42:31We don't know how his brother.
- 42:32I mean, he seems like the loving brother right now.
- 42:37We don't know what he was like in there because Chris killed him at a young age, you know, on accident, you know, So, I mean, he's.
- 42:47He's better here than he was in the office.
- 42:49So.
- 42:53So it's.
- 42:54It still stands.
- 42:55A question.
- 42:56I need to know.
- 42:57I think that's the.
- 43:01I think Spartan has some words.
- 43:03I.
- 43:03I think that this universe might be what we.
- 43:08It might be what I'm theorizing.
- 43:12Spartan.
- 43:14I need to Ask you, oh, everything looks so right with this other Earth.
- 43:26What do you think is wrong?
- 43:28Oh, you must be on Peacemaker.
- 43:30Yeah.
- 43:30Oh, more than likely, the brother's got dark secret.
- 43:33The brother's got a dark secret.
- 43:35You think it's just a brother that has a dark secret?
- 43:37I think it's gonna be the brother.
- 43:39And I think that.
- 43:40I think it's the.
- 43:41Think about this.
- 43:41I think the brother is going to be slightly corrupted.
- 43:44That's my guess.
- 43:45Because it's all too.
- 43:46You know, they.
- 43:46Because if you really think about it, in Peacemaker, that alternate.
- 43:50At alternate Earth was everything that Chris wanted.
- 43:54He wanted to be seen as a hero.
- 43:56He wanted hardcore.
- 43:57He, you know, had hardcore relationship.
- 43:59He, you know, had everything.
- 44:01Had his father, had his brother.
- 44:03If you really think about it, it's almost as if someone just sat there and said, here, it's like the maker just gave you the entire universe that you wanted just to keep you domiciled.
- 44:12Which makes you think the other shoe.
- 44:14The other shoe that has a drop out of this is that either a something's up with a brother or we're about to get introduced to somebody that's basically pulling the strings one to two.
- 44:24So I.
- 44:24I told him.
- 44:25I told the team.
- 44:27I said.
- 44:28And it was.
- 44:28It was something that somebody said about the background actors.
- 44:35You don't see none of this.
- 44:37Oh, yeah, I went back and watched.
- 44:39I went back and watched it during work.
- 44:41I was like, oh, wow, we have landed in Whiteyville.
- 44:44Yeah.
- 44:44Yeah.
- 44:45I.
- 44:45I think that's the.
- 44:46I think for me, I think that's the shoe that drops.
- 44:49Hence the Sons of Liberty.
- 44:51Yeah.
- 44:52Because I'm like, I know the Sons of Liberty are a little different in comics, but of course, it's James Gunn world, so of course he could.
- 45:01But at the same time, it does kind of make sense.
- 45:03It's like, where's Negro town?
- 45:06No Latinos, no Asians.
- 45:08I mean, they said that.
- 45:09They said there's a lot of stuff they couldn't show.
- 45:11They didn't even give the press, like, the last, what, three episodes?
- 45:14So I wouldn't be surprised if, like, we get it just slapped with a whole bunch of revelations and, like, Superman, red sun pulls up.
- 45:22Yeah.
- 45:22But that same time.
- 45:25If they do that.
- 45:27Yeah.
- 45:27It's like Bama pointed out the other Chris had a little bit of a pill problem.
- 45:32And his brother.
- 45:33Yeah.
- 45:33And his brother even sat there and said, are you using again?
- 45:36So they're.
- 45:37So there's a story there, too.
- 45:39So there's a.
- 45:39There's a Six different ways from Sunday.
- 45:42They can really go about this.
- 45:43Honestly.
- 45:45Yeah, I think he's gotta.
- 45:46I think that world he's in.
- 45:48And mind you, like, one of the questions I had already had is, where's the rest of the crew?
- 45:53Because I'd have to think, because if this is an all white party, no pun intended.
- 46:00Like, I.
- 46:00I gotta go back and look to see who's working at ARGUS Because I didn't.
- 46:03They don't mention Waller in ARGUS so who else was there?
- 46:10I mean, the only person I can.
- 46:11Well, no, I doubt.
- 46:12I doubt they're bold enough to bring a Luthor esque villain running ARGUS But I could be wrong.
- 46:20I mean, that's what.
- 46:21That's what Rick Flag is there for.
- 46:22Yeah.
- 46:23Well, no, well, yeah, Flag is at prime.
- 46:27Yeah.
- 46:27But in.
- 46:28In this earth.
- 46:29Yeah, you're right.
- 46:30We don't know.
- 46:31There.
- 46:31There was.
- 46:31He just says Argus.
- 46:34It's just.
- 46:35Argus is just me.
- 46:36It's not mentioned who's running ARGUS it's not talk about.
- 46:39It's not mentioning anybody at the top, pretty much.
- 46:42It's just all about, I need to go talk to Hardcourt.
- 46:45And then you see that version of Rick Flag, who a klutz.
- 46:51And.
- 46:51And.
- 46:56So weird.
- 46:57So weird seeing him like that.
- 46:59How you gonna do my boy like that?
- 47:01This.
- 47:01This man.
- 47:02I said.
- 47:03Really?
- 47:03Of all the ways you can make him in this universe, he has to be the.
- 47:06The clutch slash stalker.
- 47:09Yeah, like, that's the jarhead you left him.
- 47:12Like.
- 47:13But then you find out that the relationship that.
- 47:16That version of Chris and hardcore Hat wasn't exactly all peaches and cream neither.
- 47:24Like, yeah, he was.
- 47:25He was skating around on her and everything.
- 47:27He was.
- 47:29But that's it.
- 47:30But that.
- 47:31But that's what I said.
- 47:31It just.
- 47:32It just.
- 47:32You keep on waiting like it's oblivious to Chris because he's like, I.
- 47:37I have everything.
- 47:38All I'm missing is Eagly.
- 47:41And the thing about it is, you ever noticed there's not an Eagly in this universe?
- 47:46What if Eagle is like, what is that girl's name?
- 47:50Because we haven't seen her like eight movies.
- 47:51Whatever.
- 47:52Eagle is like America Chavez.
- 47:53There's only one.
- 47:54And he's just been a pet in like multiple ones.
- 47:58You see, Eagly almost like knew which door to go through or unless you like can smell the scent or what.
- 48:04Eagly, I feel like, knows a lot more than.
- 48:06He's like, Eagly is the eyeball from Alien.
- 48:08He knows.
- 48:08He knows more than he's letting on.
- 48:10Eagly is like, I have Seen things I have seen.
- 48:14I would rather stay over here, but I need to get.
- 48:18I need to get something back over there real quick.
- 48:20You know what?
- 48:21Safari.
- 48:21That would explain something, because when Eagly was flying in the pocket.
- 48:25Was in the pocket universe with all the doors, he wouldn't go into any of them.
- 48:30Even when he called him back, Ely was like, nope.
- 48:33So that kind of does say something.
- 48:37But it's also.
- 48:37It's also like if y' all are sharing it, y' all have never crossed paths with each other up until this point.
- 48:42Like the fact that there's another one person storing helmets in there.
- 48:47Right.
- 48:47I think.
- 48:48I think part of it.
- 48:48And.
- 48:49And this is something I thought about that.
- 48:50I think part of it is when it was his.
- 48:53It was his father's interdimensional doorway.
- 48:56So it was just like, yeah, I made you this helmet.
- 48:58And, you know, as much as he was always trying to gain Garner.
- 49:02His father's favorite.
- 49:04Yeah.
- 49:05He also didn't like being around his father.
- 49:07Rightfully so.
- 49:09But he uses inventions.
- 49:10Yeah.
- 49:10So he was just like, fine, at least you're making me cool helmets or whatever.
- 49:15I'll use it.
- 49:16And he probably just.
- 49:17And.
- 49:18And knowing how his father is, his father was just like, yeah, don't.
- 49:21Don't go over there.
- 49:22Don't do this.
- 49:23And he's just like, whatever.
- 49:25I won't.
- 49:26It's almost like there's a red button somewhere.
- 49:27He told him, just, whatever you do, don't push the red button.
- 49:30Right.
- 49:30Right.
- 49:32So him just going in there, you know, he is probably like, like, burned in his brain, like, I'm just gonna go get my stuff and walk on out, and that's it.
- 49:43You know?
- 49:44But then, you know, you got that one guy.
- 49:46I'm just gonna call him Bob because he never does give him a name, but Bob always shows up.
- 49:51He says hi to Bob.
- 49:54It was rude.
- 49:55It was very rude.
- 49:56He's like.
- 49:56He's.
- 49:57He says he speaks to you every.
- 49:58Time he sees you.
- 50:00Is Bob a Parademon or.
- 50:03No, Gun gave it a name, but it's not a Parademon.
- 50:09I just thought that was crazy.
- 50:10It's like I have.
- 50:11I say hi to this guy all the freaking time, and he can't even say hi once.
- 50:16But he understood when he's like, man, get the back.
- 50:21I feel like I don't.
- 50:23I feel like we'll get more from him, too, in either his home dimension or why he's always just using it as a glorified trash can.
- 50:29Yeah.
- 50:31And he did have an incinerator Though I did see that.
- 50:33Yeah.
- 50:35Which completely got rid of my idea of like, oh, they'll just hide the other Chris's body and maybe discover Lazarus bit.
- 50:41Nope.
- 50:42Bone saw.
- 50:42And just instant flames, right?
- 50:45Yeah.
- 50:45When they.
- 50:46When.
- 50:46When they lit that other body on fire, I'm like, oh, that's the good stuff.
- 50:50That's like thermite.
- 50:52They didn't miss once.
- 50:54I was like, just dang.
- 50:57As vigilante.
- 50:58He's just like, well, you know, that's not gonna really do it.
- 51:01I was like, this man needs a hobby.
- 51:05He needs a hobby.
- 51:06He does.
- 51:06He's learned.
- 51:07He knows all about owls and spiders.
- 51:09He really does it.
- 51:12I'm like, sir, you need a friend.
- 51:14You need a.
- 51:15You need a friend and.
- 51:16And therapy.
- 51:17He's like.
- 51:18He's like Yelena is to.
- 51:20To Bob.
- 51:21Like, you just need to keep him close because if you don't.
- 51:25That part.
- 51:26It was like, he's good in the fight.
- 51:29He might be annoying.
- 51:30He.
- 51:31But he's good in the fight.
- 51:32But if you let him go off to his own devices, it's a problem.
- 51:36Yeah.
- 51:36He was like, that's.
- 51:37That could go left really bad really quick, you know, I mean, it's granted even the first season when he's like, he gets himself put in.
- 51:45In jail with Peacemakers.
- 51:47I'm like, not exactly the most sound planned, but it worked.
- 51:53It was effective.
- 51:55Man, that was efficient.
- 51:56Let me.
- 51:57Let me just knock out the guy to get in the prison to get the person I want to get, and then just leave just as easy.
- 52:04I was like, I'm not saying he got a plan, but nothing.
- 52:08It's not the best plan, But I'm like, but it works.
- 52:12It's so much.
- 52:13He's like a lot of people on the timeline lately.
- 52:15He just sounds dumb.
- 52:16But confidently like, right.
- 52:21Like you said that one so confidently, but so incorrect.
- 52:24I actually had to double check my own phone, even though I knew it was wrong.
- 52:27Yeah.
- 52:27So it's like.
- 52:28But like I said, even.
- 52:29Even Peacemaker keeps him.
- 52:31He's like, he's annoying, but he keeps him close.
- 52:36But he's effective.
- 52:38He was like.
- 52:38Because, like, do you realize if he wasn't an anti hero, where he sees himself as a hero, that could be a whole mass murderer.
- 52:46Like, it could be so much worse.
- 52:50So much worse.
- 52:53So I think so.
- 52:56Before we go to commercial break, do you think that now that John knows what's going on, the Cotimos.
- 53:04Now he knows what's going on.
- 53:05Do you think he's gonna rat anybody?
- 53:07I don't think he's gonna rat anybody out because as much as he doesn't view, he views Peacemaker there.
- 53:17He's not so much a friend, but he's friendly.
- 53:20I don't think he'll rat.
- 53:22I don't think kind of most will rat anybody out.
- 53:24But I'm sorry.
- 53:26Just my mind he's going back to Tim Meadows character.
- 53:28Just.
- 53:28I.
- 53:29I have bird blindness.
- 53:33It's a giant duck.
- 53:34I'm like, dude, wait a minute.
- 53:35How did you deliver that with a straight face?
- 53:38I don't know.
- 53:39How did you not.
- 53:40How did you put me up against a man that knew that.
- 53:42That knew I had blurb blindness?
- 53:43I'm like, you could.
- 53:44You can't tell an eagle from a duck.
- 53:47They all look the same to me.
- 53:50So.
- 53:51They all look the same to me.
- 53:52He's like, you never heard of a hummingbird?
- 53:54And he described it.
- 53:55He was like.
- 53:56He's like.
- 53:57I only know that because I read up on one pretty much.
- 54:01But no, I don't think.
- 54:04I think Economos is gonna keep it close to the chest.
- 54:07But let's be honest.
- 54:09Oh boy.
- 54:10Is not too far off from just showing up on at Chris's door and just saying, you know, we need to have a conversation about my son.
- 54:17Yeah.
- 54:17Well, I mean we're.
- 54:18I think we're getting it.
- 54:19Starting off with a raid.
- 54:20Next episode after this more officially done in this goofy terrorist attack.
- 54:25Because how do you trip with the bomb strapped to you?
- 54:29I mean, that also is true.
- 54:30But yeah.
- 54:31I mean with the raid, I think they are gonna.
- 54:33I.
- 54:33I think with the raid they are gonna.
- 54:35That's gonna lead to the confrontation between Flag and.
- 54:37Between Flag and Chris.
- 54:38And that's gonna be a whole.
- 54:39Another.
- 54:40That might be a whole other James Gunn tear jerker on that one.
- 54:42Just like.
- 54:43I didn't.
- 54:44I didn't mean.
- 54:45Right.
- 54:45Where does Waller get accountability in this?
- 54:47Because like she was the one that ordered it.
- 54:50She was.
- 54:51But technically she.
- 54:53I would love to see two high level ranking government employees yell each other.
- 54:58But that's the thing.
- 54:59I mean unless they.
- 55:00Unless you know, Ms.
- 55:01But Ms.
- 55:02Mrs.
- 55:02Davis makes an appearance outside of that Wallers and Bell Reef.
- 55:09So even so I'm sure he'll catch a flight over there with all of his new power.
- 55:13So I just.
- 55:15I need.
- 55:15I need whatever that confrontation would be to be filmed.
- 55:18I know the workers.
- 55:19The workers at Bell Reef Slack Chat will be on fire.
- 55:21That I'm gonna tell you right now.
- 55:22Waller's getting out of Bell Reef.
- 55:24Yeah.
- 55:25I mean gun that Gun already is saying that he's doing a show for it.
- 55:28So she's getting out of bed.
- 55:29It's Waller.
- 55:31She's gonna have dirt on.
- 55:32She always has dirt on somebody.
- 55:35It's wilder.
- 55:36And, and, and if it.
- 55:38If it's any consolation, after what James Gunn announced.
- 55:42What was it last week about what we're looking forward.
- 55:45Forward to in the next Superman film.
- 55:46Yep.
- 55:48With man.
- 55:48It's a mar.
- 55:49He's gonna work something out with Lex where he gets out.
- 55:52Yep.
- 55:53A work release program.
- 55:54As long as he doesn't.
- 55:55As long as you.
- 55:56You know, as long as you keep it to yourself about who you want to take out and you know, keep super.
- 56:00You know, Superman's off limits because their.
- 56:02Their goals are aligned.
- 56:05Their goals are definitely aligned.
- 56:07You have this super powered alien.
- 56:10Her task is to make sure threats do not happen.
- 56:13They take care of jobs that no one else wants to take responsibility for.
- 56:18She does the dirty work.
- 56:19I just hope there's not a robot named Amazo.
- 56:22Oh, no, no.
- 56:22Amazo.
- 56:23Brainiac only, please.
- 56:24I'm gonna say we see Amazing.
- 56:26I feel like we could get either one of those.
- 56:28Either beginning in Supergirl and then completed in man of Tomorrow.
- 56:33Yeah.
- 56:34I know one thing.
- 56:35I know one thing.
- 56:36We're getting a proper Superman sequel.
- 56:38Yeah.
- 56:39Gosh.
- 56:41I mean, once he saw Lex in the suit.
- 56:43And I'm like, either.
- 56:44Either you're doing Parasite or you're laying the groundwork for Doomsday.
- 56:48One of the two.
- 56:49Yeah.
- 56:51I'll lean more to Brainiac or Parasite, I don't think.
- 56:54Because somebody else made that mistake of doing Doomsday first.
- 56:59Because they turned Doomsday into a goddamn Pokemon.
- 57:02That's what made no freaking sense.
- 57:04They did it early.
- 57:05Yeah.
- 57:06I'm like.
- 57:06I'm like, did you just give me four stories in one movie?
- 57:10And let's.
- 57:11And you try to do, you know what they.
- 57:13And I know.
- 57:14I know we need to switch topics, but again, Lex to Doomsday was just.
- 57:18Was not what Tony was to Ultron.
- 57:22You can't all.
- 57:22I mean, you can alter the storyline in the MCU to make sense.
- 57:25You can't do it in the dcu.
- 57:26I'm.
- 57:26I'm sorry.
- 57:27Because there's.
- 57:28There's no way.
- 57:29Lex is a smart individual.
- 57:30But.
- 57:31Yeah.
- 57:32Yeah, that's true.
- 57:34He said Amanda Waller has more dirt on people than the desert ass.
- 57:37And yeah.
- 57:37Yep, she does.
- 57:39Like, they was like, Amanda Waller's going to Belle Reef.
- 57:42I'm like wood.
- 57:43Like Martha Stewart when she went to federal prison.
- 57:46It's like she was out gardening and everything.
- 57:48What a smile.
- 57:50What do you mean?
- 57:51What do you mean, Bama?
- 57:52You mean a ninja turtle?
- 57:53What do you mean?
- 57:53Oh, Doomsday.
- 57:56Oh, yeah, that the mutated.
- 57:58The mutated Raja.
- 58:00That's six feet long.
- 58:01Yeah.
- 58:03That didn't make any sense at all.
- 58:05I'm sorry.
- 58:07Yeah, yeah.
- 58:08Trust me.
- 58:09Yeah.
- 58:09I was not in a happy place when he did.
- 58:11I'm like, wait a minute, right?
- 58:13Why.
- 58:14Why are we doing this?
- 58:16You know, as a DBZ fan, I'm kind of mad that you just basically made him just evolve like five times in.
- 58:21In two minutes.
- 58:22Because all he did was get hit.
- 58:24That.
- 58:24That's the Hulks thing.
- 58:25Look here.
- 58:26My wife, who does not read comics, but much like everyone else in the world, knew about the death of Superman.
- 58:33And when she seen him.
- 58:36When she seen Cavill, Superman died, she was like, wait, he's dead?
- 58:40And I'm like, we will talk after the movie.
- 58:44It's like.
- 58:44It's like showing somebody the Transformers movie and then just saying, wait for that moment.
- 58:52I'm like, jesus.
- 58:53I'm like, this is what we're doing.
- 58:55Damn it.
- 58:55Glad we're not there anymore.
- 58:59Glad we're not there anymore.
- 59:01Yeah, he tried to speed run the suit.
- 59:03Yeah, he did.
- 59:04He was speed run the Superman arc.
- 59:07Oh, man.
- 59:08So we're gonna take a break.
- 59:09We're gonna come back.
- 59:10We are going to cover some of the worst and craziest comic book recons from DC and Marvel.
- 59:20Now, we're not doing all of them, but we got quite a few to talk about.
- 59:24So we'll be right back after this break.
- 59:27Stay tuned.
- 59:28If you got something crazy, drop it in the comments.
- 59:32Sam.
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- 1:00:49All right, we are back.
- 1:00:52Imagine all the names I was coming up with when I made that cut.
- 1:00:58So we are covering some of the worst and craziest retcons Marvel or DC Comics has covered.
- 1:01:04I think Spartan, we'll start with you.
- 1:01:07Oh, my bad.
- 1:01:08I was jamming the Tafara.
- 1:01:10I don't know why.
- 1:01:10It unmutes it every time.
- 1:01:12And I hit it right when we come back.
- 1:01:13I don't.
- 1:01:15I'm just saying your dad was getting down.
- 1:01:16That's.
- 1:01:16I was like, oh, it should have.
- 1:01:18Been over six minutes.
- 1:01:19Ago.
- 1:01:19But.
- 1:01:19All right.
- 1:01:22You know, the.
- 1:01:23The main list.
- 1:01:25I.
- 1:01:25I'm just gonna go ahead and just do the elephant in the room, and I'm gonna.
- 1:01:29I'm just gonna put D.C.
- 1:01:30up there.
- 1:01:31The new 52.
- 1:01:32Ah.
- 1:01:35One of the most horrible retcons.
- 1:01:39I have no idea what they were thinking between Greg Baloney and the rest of them, because for some odd reason, they sat there and said, oh, let's just reboot the entire dcu.
- 1:01:49Right?
- 1:01:49And let's do it in a way that just, I don't know, throw.
- 1:01:53Throw darts at a board and hope it sticks.
- 1:01:56Batman was terrible.
- 1:01:57Superman was terrible.
- 1:01:58Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Supergirl.
- 1:02:01I can keep going down list.
- 1:02:03There's not a new 52 story that I liked at all.
- 1:02:09But if I had to think of the worst retcons, that's at least number two on my top five.
- 1:02:14But that's just me.
- 1:02:15Yeah, the new 52.
- 1:02:19New 52 left a really funky taste in a lot of people's mouth.
- 1:02:25The.
- 1:02:25The redesigns were weird.
- 1:02:27Not hated, but just weird.
- 1:02:32It's like they literally got.
- 1:02:34You know what it was?
- 1:02:35It's.
- 1:02:36It's as if you told Zack Snyder, hey, redo the entire DCU.
- 1:02:39But I'm giving you 12 different storylines and over 20 different comics, and you can take artistic license with all of them.
- 1:02:49Yeah.
- 1:02:49That's the best way I could put that.
- 1:02:52We're talking just.
- 1:02:52The comics are like the animated films as well.
- 1:02:55The comments.
- 1:02:55The comics.
- 1:02:57Okay.
- 1:02:57Because I was like, the reboot they did for new52 in there was just God awful.
- 1:03:01Yeah.
- 1:03:02Hence the hints that.
- 1:03:03Yeah.
- 1:03:04The most talked about thing out of that.
- 1:03:06Out of that universe.
- 1:03:07Superman and Wonder Woman.
- 1:03:09The kiss.
- 1:03:10Yeah.
- 1:03:10That made no sense.
- 1:03:12It was.
- 1:03:12It was like watching siblings kiss.
- 1:03:14Damn.
- 1:03:15They at least broke them up and they at least said no.
- 1:03:19And what was in Injustice?
- 1:03:21Because she tried.
- 1:03:22Yeah.
- 1:03:23But in, I think the new 52, they broke them up after, like, one movie because Cyborg and Flash were like, all right, this is, like, painfully awkward.
- 1:03:30Can y' all stop?
- 1:03:31Yeah.
- 1:03:33So, Mal, you're right.
- 1:03:35The Heroes Reborn here also terrible.
- 1:03:39He's right.
- 1:03:41Good and terrible.
- 1:03:42There's a lot of.
- 1:03:43A lot of Synthol looked like it was used on a lot of those characters.
- 1:03:50Cap looked like he had breast implants.
- 1:03:52Yeah.
- 1:03:53It.
- 1:03:54It just.
- 1:03:55Just not good.
- 1:03:56Not this off the back of Onslaught.
- 1:04:05And you gave us Heroes Reborn.
- 1:04:06It was such a wild idea that was just tragically executed.
- 1:04:14And.
- 1:04:15And even looking back, because that was like the 90s.
- 1:04:17So even looking back, it was just like, too much of everything, whether it was muscles, little feet, or pockets.
- 1:04:25Oh, no.
- 1:04:28It gets weird.
- 1:04:29Are we talking about what's his name?
- 1:04:32Yeah.
- 1:04:35That one thing of Captain America with the triple F, double D extra E chest.
- 1:04:42I.
- 1:04:44That photo.
- 1:04:45I had to look.
- 1:04:46I was like, I remember that photo.
- 1:04:48I don't remember it being that bad.
- 1:04:50And then I.
- 1:04:51I actually have this.
- 1:04:52I actually have that run.
- 1:04:54And I'm like, oh, it is.
- 1:04:57Yo.
- 1:04:57His muscles.
- 1:04:59That was the.
- 1:05:00That.
- 1:05:00The angling.
- 1:05:01Like, he's so.
- 1:05:03For.
- 1:05:03For context, he's standing.
- 1:05:07Look, you're looking at Cat from the side, right?
- 1:05:10And he's.
- 1:05:10But his head is towards facing you.
- 1:05:13But the angling is so off that I'm like, how is this even the physics.
- 1:05:26How is your drawing of feet so notoriously bad that it makes it into a Deadpool movie?
- 1:05:33I got one worse than that, though.
- 1:05:35Well, if you're a Spider man fan.
- 1:05:36It'S worse than that.
- 1:05:38But I'm sorry.
- 1:05:38Go.
- 1:05:38I'm gonna keep mine, but I'm sorry.
- 1:05:40You're going next.
- 1:05:41Yeah, go ahead.
- 1:05:42Whoopty.
- 1:05:43Are we just talking about the horrible things or just.
- 1:05:46You can talk.
- 1:05:46The horrible or the crazy?
- 1:05:52Oh, your sound.
- 1:05:53Say that again.
- 1:05:54How about now?
- 1:05:55There you go.
- 1:05:57Okay.
- 1:05:57I can't say I like where the X Men are going after Kakoa.
- 1:06:02Okay.
- 1:06:04I am not alone.
- 1:06:06I am not alone.
- 1:06:08I was very happy in Krakoa era X Men.
- 1:06:12God, it was the best error of the X Men.
- 1:06:16And what did they do?
- 1:06:18They got rid of.
- 1:06:21It.
- 1:06:21Just.
- 1:06:21You.
- 1:06:22You couldn't.
- 1:06:22You couldn't.
- 1:06:23It's.
- 1:06:23It's like.
- 1:06:24It's like Peter Parker.
- 1:06:25You just can't let the man have one happy arc.
- 1:06:30You can't.
- 1:06:31I.
- 1:06:31I'm just saying, as a spy, as.
- 1:06:33As a spy, if you're a Spider man, you are just mentally destroyed.
- 1:06:39Physically strong, mentally destroyed.
- 1:06:41I'm just saying, of all the things that man gets put through, but no Krakoa.
- 1:06:46The Kakora arc was great.
- 1:06:47It covered.
- 1:06:49It really covered X Men, the Uncanny X Men, X Force, forgetting three other ones.
- 1:06:55But it's almost.
- 1:06:56It's like he.
- 1:06:57It's like Hickman gave them a soft reboot and said, we're gonna start here because this is an era that could go on.
- 1:07:07And he said, it could go on for at least seven to 10 years.
- 1:07:10Yeah.
- 1:07:12And it really could.
- 1:07:14But for some odd reason, someone said, ah, let's wreck it.
- 1:07:19Let's just.
- 1:07:20Let's just burn it all down.
- 1:07:21God.
- 1:07:22The Ed Kraa era was the.
- 1:07:24We need to have them re.
- 1:07:26Revisit the Krakoan era.
- 1:07:29It's.
- 1:07:29It's.
- 1:07:30I love X Men.
- 1:07:32It's the error.
- 1:07:33But this Krakoan era was everything.
- 1:07:36You know what made me did want to throw the book across the room.
- 1:07:40What's that?
- 1:07:41The Hellfire gala where they forced everybody through the.
- 1:07:44Oh.
- 1:07:45All through the gates.
- 1:07:47Oh.
- 1:07:48Oh.
- 1:07:49This is right.
- 1:07:50This is the reason why I said Professor X is a little.
- 1:07:51Is a little bit.
- 1:07:53Is a little bit too close to being.
- 1:07:56I can't say the word here.
- 1:07:59He's being too close to one of them.
- 1:08:01When he sat there, was given the decision, you could either lead.
- 1:08:03You can either lead your mutants these portals or weak or I will use you to kill them all instead.
- 1:08:10He was told this by a human?
- 1:08:13Yeah, you were told this by a human the whole entire time.
- 1:08:16Instead of, you know.
- 1:08:17And again, I can hear Magneal's words.
- 1:08:19You are the most powerful psionic mutant on Earth.
- 1:08:24You could literally create the utopia that you claim you want, but you choose not to be strong enough to take over the humans.
- 1:08:32You'd rather try to be.
- 1:08:34Try to cohabitate with them.
- 1:08:35And that's your folly.
- 1:08:37And of course, Professor X said, no, that's just your hubris.
- 1:08:39And Magneto said, I might be for mutants, but I ain't stupid.
- 1:08:46God, I love that air.
- 1:08:48The Quiet Council, the midnight council where they terraform Mars is probably some of the best visuals and description as they're doing it right.
- 1:09:04Magneto was.
- 1:09:05Magneto was creating the poles.
- 1:09:07Storm is realigning the electrons and every.
- 1:09:09I'm like, this is somebody seem like.
- 1:09:12You could actually do this at the same time.
- 1:09:18Again, you.
- 1:09:19What's the.
- 1:09:20What you.
- 1:09:21You literally create an island.
- 1:09:22An island.
- 1:09:24The reform Red terraform.
- 1:09:26The moon.
- 1:09:26Ref.
- 1:09:27Terraform Mars.
- 1:09:29What's freaking next?
- 1:09:30Because I'm like, I'm not saying that, you know, the next thing I can only think of is that you create your own pocket universe.
- 1:09:35But let's be honest, that's.
- 1:09:36That was.
- 1:09:37I'm not gonna try to figure out how they can come with that.
- 1:09:39But still, they had to use Franklin Richards for that one.
- 1:09:43But it was still great.
- 1:09:44It was still a great arc that like.
- 1:09:47Like, look, you said on it could have went on for a longer period.
- 1:09:54And you could have told so many stories that honestly did not have to involve humans.
- 1:09:58You could have literally had mutants having inner turmoil with the whole idea of rebirth and the whole idea of, you know, is this planet really ours?
- 1:10:07You could have went so many different angles, but And.
- 1:10:11And here's the.
- 1:10:12Here's another thing.
- 1:10:14There's.
- 1:10:14There's a scene where one of the Guthrie children who lost her powers was.
- 1:10:22It Had a chance to gain her powers back, and she's facing apocalypse.
- 1:10:26Because, mind you, Krikora, the first thing they said was, all of them are welcome.
- 1:10:31All mutants.
- 1:10:32Doesn't matter what side you were on before, you're welcome here.
- 1:10:36Understand?
- 1:10:37You're not gonna be pulling that stuff here.
- 1:10:40We're giving you a home.
- 1:10:41We're making sure you're taken care of.
- 1:10:43You're going to be at peace.
- 1:10:44All you got to do is live.
- 1:10:46And so apocalypse.
- 1:10:49Apocalypse of all mutants.
- 1:10:51He's facing off with her, and this battle unfolds, and it's basically a.
- 1:10:57A testament of her will.
- 1:10:59And.
- 1:11:00And she.
- 1:11:00He's.
- 1:11:00He's beating her down, but she's getting back up.
- 1:11:02And he's like, you can stay down and be human, or you can get back up and be a mutant.
- 1:11:08She's like, I'm getting back up.
- 1:11:10And she fought to the hill and died.
- 1:11:14Only because she could be reborn.
- 1:11:15Because once she's reborn, she has her powers again.
- 1:11:18Yep.
- 1:11:18That whole.
- 1:11:19That.
- 1:11:20Those two pages of.
- 1:11:21Of description of how that unfolds clothes.
- 1:11:25I'm like, yo, this is Hickman, because he.
- 1:11:29He's one of my favorite writers.
- 1:11:30He.
- 1:11:31He did Fantastic Four.
- 1:11:32His run on Fantastic Four is beautiful.
- 1:11:34Yes.
- 1:11:35You know, his run on Avengers is amazing.
- 1:11:38You know, so his run on.
- 1:11:40When they said he's writing X Men, I'm like, oh, this is gonna be.
- 1:11:43Oh, it's gonna be good.
- 1:11:44This is gonna be something.
- 1:11:46You know, the.
- 1:11:47The whole.
- 1:11:48The.
- 1:11:48The way they have the whole quiet Council, they was like, this council handles this.
- 1:11:52The midnight council.
- 1:11:54Council handles that.
- 1:11:56Vulcan got put in his place by storm.
- 1:11:59Right.
- 1:12:05Disrespectfully, I am more powerful than you.
- 1:12:07You dare talk to the voice of soul?
- 1:12:09I was like, okay.
- 1:12:12She pretty much was like, I didn't want to do this.
- 1:12:16The.
- 1:12:17The sit your ass down was loud.
- 1:12:20That's all I can say.
- 1:12:22Pumpkin is a jerk, though.
- 1:12:24Oh, yeah.
- 1:12:24Oh, of course.
- 1:12:26Like, how are you the youngest Summer's brother, and you're that much of a.
- 1:12:29Jerk because he thinks he's a God.
- 1:12:34Hot drunk.
- 1:12:34You know, feeling.
- 1:12:35Feeling himself a little too much.
- 1:12:37Right?
- 1:12:37And.
- 1:12:38And like I said, nobody talk.
- 1:12:39And that's something else is.
- 1:12:42I don't.
- 1:12:42I can't remember how.
- 1:12:43How many of the gum.
- 1:12:44Three children there are because they're all country kids.
- 1:12:49They're like.
- 1:12:50It's.
- 1:12:50They're Sam.
- 1:12:51Because there's Cannonball Husk and then I can't remember the one, the other sister.
- 1:12:56But there's a lot of them.
- 1:12:57They're all country kids.
- 1:12:58Yeah.
- 1:12:59So it's like, imagine that family.
- 1:13:01They was like, okay, your brother got his powers, and then here come Husk.
- 1:13:05She got her powers.
- 1:13:06Okay.
- 1:13:08She.
- 1:13:08Okay, he got his wife.
- 1:13:09Like there's a lot of kids in that family.
- 1:13:12Everybody talks about the summers, but there's a lot of gunthery kids, man.
- 1:13:15They.
- 1:13:15They don't talk.
- 1:13:16They just pop up like they farm kids.
- 1:13:19So I guess all you doing if you ain't farming, you.
- 1:13:23Taste true.
- 1:13:25If the silo is a rocking.
- 1:13:30Damn.
- 1:13:31Oh, man.
- 1:13:33Safari.
- 1:13:34What?
- 1:13:35From the list that Mayhem gave us.
- 1:13:40Which ones have we covered already?
- 1:13:41I had to go pull Waters out of a truck.
- 1:13:43So we talked about the Cohen era for X men and new 52.
- 1:13:49And I said, was Heroes Reborn?
- 1:13:54Yeah, Heroes.
- 1:13:55Somebody brought up in the comments was One More Day on.
- 1:13:58Or Brett.
- 1:13:59Yeah, one more day on any of those lists.
- 1:14:01It's One More Day is on that list.
- 1:14:04Somebody says.
- 1:14:05Somebody said, watch that be like the cruel twist of Spider man is that at some point the title changes from.
- 1:14:10Brand New Day to One More Day Thunderbolt style.
- 1:14:15That, that or the movie.
- 1:14:16Somebody else said, what if the movie starts off like that?
- 1:14:18It's not Brand New Day.
- 1:14:19It turns into One More Day and we are already slapped back into the middle of a Mephisto realm.
- 1:14:26Peter, when he already undid the wish and everyone knows who he is and his life is just constant trash.
- 1:14:33I mean, we have him.
- 1:14:34We have him at FISTO now.
- 1:14:35So, I mean, Sasha Baron Cohen is bound to make his appearance somewhere.
- 1:14:40Borat is here to troll the entire mcu, ladies and gentlemen.
- 1:14:43Hey, nobody.
- 1:14:44Nobody's seen that is and played it well, mind you.
- 1:14:49So.
- 1:14:49Yeah, I just.
- 1:14:51I would not be shocked if he may they have.
- 1:14:53He has to make an appearance at some point.
- 1:14:54Like.
- 1:14:55Like, yeah, I would be shocked if he doesn't.
- 1:14:58I know the Spider Man's already got a lot weighing on it as it is with all these cameos.
- 1:15:04But.
- 1:15:04Yeah, I know that was like people's like, I know.
- 1:15:08No Way Home was like a better done version of it because he tried to basically get his old life back and just screwed everyone else's life in the process and potentially reset three, two other timelines we may or
- 1:15:20may not know of.
- 1:15:22Yeah.
- 1:15:22And maybe just left Michael Keaton stranded out there with.
- 1:15:27With Morbius to never come home.
- 1:15:29We still don't know what that's about.
- 1:15:31Yeah, yeah.
- 1:15:33From what I can see about one more day, it was basically almost like Toby's run and then they just gave it the middle finger at the very end.
- 1:15:40Even after like multiple variants tell you not to.
- 1:15:45Including your unborn child.
- 1:15:46Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:15:49I agree.
- 1:15:50I agree.
- 1:15:56I was gonna say.
- 1:15:56Because I was gonna.
- 1:15:58Go ahead, go ahead, Chris.
- 1:15:59I got one.
- 1:15:59But it's, it's, it's still on the dt.
- 1:16:02One is not really a retcon, but one's a retcon.
- 1:16:08One isn't I.
- 1:16:10And I was, I'll just go with the one that, that is a retcon.
- 1:16:14Okay.
- 1:16:15Avengers 1 million B.C.
- 1:16:17Yes.
- 1:16:21It didn't make sense.
- 1:16:22Cool concept, but it didn't make sense at all.
- 1:16:28Should I even bother to try to read it?
- 1:16:31I would say if you want to read it, read it for the sake of knowing how certain characters are really involved with each other.
- 1:16:39Like the Panther, the Black Panther of that time can control Mjolnir.
- 1:16:51True.
- 1:16:52Which because, because then they play on that much, much later in the Avengers where the hammer is thrown at Black Panther and he's able to will it to stop and they trying to figure out like what's going on.
- 1:17:05He's like, like, oh, my ancestors could do that.
- 1:17:09So there's that relation.
- 1:17:12It has, it has some cool looking concepts.
- 1:17:18It has cool looking concepts.
- 1:17:19Like because it has the doctor Strange of that, of that time period.
- 1:17:23It has the Black Panther that time period.
- 1:17:25It has a Hulk of that time period.
- 1:17:27Which is more like the whole.
- 1:17:29It was more like a Hulk slash Quasar.
- 1:17:33Yeah.
- 1:17:34Character that, the iron Fist of that, that era.
- 1:17:38So it was, it, it had the Thor was.
- 1:17:41Nobody was just Odin.
- 1:17:43So it had the Ghost Rider which was really cool actually because the ghost.
- 1:17:49Because the, because of the, the mode of transportation was a mammoth.
- 1:17:53So it had cool concepts but overall it would, it just seemed more like a overarching one shot.
- 1:18:02Yeah, that's what, that's what it came off.
- 1:18:04It's not, it's not a, it's not a horrible read.
- 1:18:07I've had horrible reads that it wasn't a horrible.
- 1:18:09It just didn't make sense like in the overall scheme of things.
- 1:18:13That part.
- 1:18:14I still, well, if you like like Chris said, I, of course I was kind of being harsh the first, at the first response because it, the writers could have done really better.
- 1:18:24But he does got a point.
- 1:18:26If you did want to see some more of the interpersonal relationships, they, they do kind of make sense.
- 1:18:31But yeah, I, I, you want to Kill some time.
- 1:18:35Go for it.
- 1:18:36Yeah.
- 1:18:37Because, like, their Dr.
- 1:18:38Strange was at.
- 1:18:39Their Dr.
- 1:18:40Strange was Agamotto.
- 1:18:41Like, the actual Agamotto.
- 1:18:44And it just.
- 1:18:47The concept of those characters are cool.
- 1:18:51Those were.
- 1:18:52Were rather readable and.
- 1:18:54And able to kind of like, oh, okay.
- 1:18:56You know, because nobody.
- 1:18:57You know, especially with the hype of Black Panther, you're like, you always want to know previous Panthers who held the mantles, you know, how far back are we going?
- 1:19:06You know, so, you know, they in.
- 1:19:08In, like, Agamotto, you know, like, it's the Agamotto.
- 1:19:10Who did it belong to?
- 1:19:11Agamotto.
- 1:19:12Never seen.
- 1:19:13But now you do, you know, Obviously, Odin's gonna still be around.
- 1:19:16That's.
- 1:19:17That's kind of his thing, you know?
- 1:19:18So finding out which one of these characters derived from where.
- 1:19:23Those are cool.
- 1:19:24But at the end of it all, it was just like, what.
- 1:19:28What do we.
- 1:19:29What do we learn?
- 1:19:32What did we learn?
- 1:19:33So that part entirely.
- 1:19:38Wait.
- 1:19:38Damn.
- 1:19:38Now all the crisis iterations.
- 1:19:41Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:19:46Crisis on Infinite Earths.
- 1:19:48If you thought that animated run was convoluted.
- 1:19:52Yeah.
- 1:19:52Read the book.
- 1:19:53It's.
- 1:19:54It's bad.
- 1:19:55I'll put this way.
- 1:19:57The concept was great because they had to have.
- 1:20:00They.
- 1:20:01D.C.
- 1:20:01had to have something equal to.
- 1:20:05Equal to Marvel's Secret wars because that's.
- 1:20:08That was the whole idea.
- 1:20:10That was the whole idea of Christ on Infinite Earths.
- 1:20:12It was literally their answer to Secret Wars.
- 1:20:15The problem with Christ on Infinite Earth is that you.
- 1:20:19You had a plot that had more holes in it than Swiss cheese.
- 1:20:24At the same time, you literally, at one point.
- 1:20:28And again, I'm spoiling this.
- 1:20:29I'm sorry, but trust me, you'll save y'.
- 1:20:32All.
- 1:20:32I'll save you plenty of reading time.
- 1:20:35At one point, Wally was the answer, and then he wasn't.
- 1:20:40Then Green Lantern was the answer, then he wasn't, and then for some odd reason in.
- 1:20:46In who.
- 1:20:47I forgot whoever was writing the third crisis, Plastic man, was the answer.
- 1:20:53To this day, I have yet to figure out why.
- 1:20:58You could have took Booster Gold and gave it a better.
- 1:21:00Gave him a better storyline, but no Brights on infinite Earth.
- 1:21:03I'm just.
- 1:21:04I'm be honest with you, because they've always.
- 1:21:09It's.
- 1:21:09It's like you're trying to tell a grand story, but like all grand stories, they either.
- 1:21:16They either save all universes or they merge them or they're all linked or it's fixed, it changes.
- 1:21:23And this is the reason why you can't do this is why the reason.
- 1:21:25Also, they did Crisis Too many times.
- 1:21:28Way too many times.
- 1:21:29That was also the problem because Secret wars doesn't get done in the mc in.
- 1:21:34In Marvel that much.
- 1:21:36They might.
- 1:21:36You know, they've only done it, what, twice?
- 1:21:39Yeah, twice.
- 1:21:40Only.
- 1:21:40Secret wars only been done twice.
- 1:21:42Crisis has been now done seven times.
- 1:21:48And the last one was still not any better.
- 1:21:51Because you try to put the Monitor up against the Watch Monitor.
- 1:21:55And the Monitor, for all those that don't know, is basically a guy that's being basically driven to destroy all Earths to keep one sacred.
- 1:22:03That's it.
- 1:22:05And he's powerful.
- 1:22:07He's more powerful than the Specter.
- 1:22:09That alone is, like, doesn't answer any questions on how you're.
- 1:22:13How you're more powerful than supposedly one of the most powerful beings in dc.
- 1:22:18They, too.
- 1:22:19DC does.
- 1:22:20They.
- 1:22:20They abuse the hell out of a retcon.
- 1:22:23They have.
- 1:22:24And it's Every time.
- 1:22:25It's a cry.
- 1:22:26Every time they do Crisis, I'm like, they got another crisis.
- 1:22:28Like.
- 1:22:32Because Infinite Crisis on Infinite Earth worked out so well for them.
- 1:22:37It only because.
- 1:22:38Because of cw, CW banked on Grant Gustin.
- 1:22:44They banked on Stephen Amell.
- 1:22:45They banked really, on the strength of Arrow and the Flasho, not even counting Legends of Tomorrow, not counting Black Lightning, because Black Lightning, for some odd reason, had to be in its own universe.
- 1:22:56But with those three shows, they sat there and said, you know what?
- 1:23:00Let's do Crisis.
- 1:23:02And of course, every DC comic fan was like, I don't.
- 1:23:06Don't know if you should do that.
- 1:23:07But because of Star Power and because the writers.
- 1:23:11The writers in the CW went completely different.
- 1:23:15Yes, the Monitor was involved, but it wasn't the same Monitor story as in the comics.
- 1:23:20Right.
- 1:23:20They adjusted it, so that's why it was successful.
- 1:23:23And at the same time, we'll also be honest, that was probably the outside of.
- 1:23:28Outside of agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
- 1:23:31that entire crossover, because, again, this is DC's first, first moderately successful crossover on television with multiple shows.
- 1:23:43So of course, they.
- 1:23:45They kind of cleaned house with that.
- 1:23:47Yeah, they banked on.
- 1:23:47They banked on that.
- 1:23:48It.
- 1:23:48It was their saving grace for.
- 1:23:50For a couple of years.
- 1:23:51Yeah, it was just like, oh, guess what?
- 1:23:53It's time for that yearly crossover.
- 1:23:55And you're just like, it just got bigger and bigger.
- 1:23:58Exactly.
- 1:23:59Until they just again, wolfed it.
- 1:24:01But then again, Flash is on too long.
- 1:24:03Arrow was on too long.
- 1:24:05Legends of Tomorrow, they just let that run like a Saturday nightlife special.
- 1:24:08And it was like, all right, we gotta.
- 1:24:10We gotta cut this, Mitchell.
- 1:24:11Because Legends of Tomorrow started out serious they started, and they.
- 1:24:15They went from not taking themselves too serious.
- 1:24:17And it.
- 1:24:18I'm gonna be honest, it made it fun once it got past the.
- 1:24:21Okay, we don't have to stick with the Rip Hunter and the Lords of Time storyline.
- 1:24:25We can just go out and do our own thing.
- 1:24:27Which was fine because it still was funny in most.
- 1:24:30In most aspects.
- 1:24:31But.
- 1:24:31Yeah.
- 1:24:34Come on, man.
- 1:24:35You right, Right.
- 1:24:38So Bow says Crisis titles in DC is the old prostitute on the corner trying to sell her goods to her dying day?
- 1:24:46She is still sitting right.
- 1:24:47Still right out there.
- 1:24:48Might as well be Roxanne with.
- 1:24:49Roxanne with the police plan.
- 1:24:51Now, granted, Identity Crisis is a great.
- 1:24:53Who done it.
- 1:24:55Identity Crisis is a great whodunit.
- 1:24:57But when you're going universe, when you're going multiversal, I'm like, oh, God.
- 1:25:03Again.
- 1:25:04But I'll tell you one that.
- 1:25:06I'll tell you one that still sticks to my cross.
- 1:25:08A Batman fan.
- 1:25:09The three Jokers.
- 1:25:11Oh, did they ever finish that?
- 1:25:13They did.
- 1:25:15It was finished.
- 1:25:16And again, this.
- 1:25:18The story, the.
- 1:25:19How it wrapped up was so weak that there was no reprints.
- 1:25:25Once that.
- 1:25:26Once that.
- 1:25:27The Three Jokers is one of the.
- 1:25:29One of the DC stories that once it was told, you don't find reprints anymore.
- 1:25:36And that tells you how bad the story actually is.
- 1:25:40Because they try to sit there and say, oh, well, Batman didn't know he was fighting three jokers this entire time.
- 1:25:48It's a straight.
- 1:25:49It's.
- 1:25:50And what kills me is the concept, in theory, would have been nice, but coming from Batman, who has figured out multiple things, has figured out the Lazarus Pit, has reworked Cyborg's technology, figured out Kryptonian tech, made Lex Luthor
- 1:26:11look bad.
- 1:26:12But you're gonna sit there and tell me with all his intelligence, this man didn't figure out he was fighting three different jokers over four decades.
- 1:26:21It don't make no sense.
- 1:26:23It doesn't.
- 1:26:23Greatest detective.
- 1:26:24Detective.
- 1:26:25World's greatest detective, but can't figure out that you've been fighting three different jokers.
- 1:26:31I'm sorry.
- 1:26:31That just.
- 1:26:32And that's the reason why a lot of Batman fans got ticked off, because how do you call yourself the world's greatest detective?
- 1:26:37But you couldn't figure that out.
- 1:26:38You're your main nemesis.
- 1:26:42Gave you nemeses now gave you the slip for over 40 years.
- 1:26:48And you couldn't figure out you was fighting a different.
- 1:26:51I'd be laughing at you too, because as I said, even the third Joker was like the third Joker at the end.
- 1:26:58Sat there and said, you did not realize that I've only been fighting you for this many years.
- 1:27:04He's like, I basically took over where the second one took off and then the first one, he's like.
- 1:27:10And that's what's like.
- 1:27:11You were.
- 1:27:11I was like, he.
- 1:27:12And he's laughing because the world's greatest objective is now the world's greatest punchline because you've been fighting three jokers.
- 1:27:21And I'm just like, this.
- 1:27:22This was not the.
- 1:27:23This was not the one, two combination.
- 1:27:26You were hoping it would be for a story ending.
- 1:27:28That's all I'm saying.
- 1:27:29No, it's.
- 1:27:30It was not.
- 1:27:33Not that great.
- 1:27:35Exactly.
- 1:27:35Exactly.
- 1:27:36Like Gotham, the TV show do something like this too, where they kept passing the mantle on to someone.
- 1:27:43Red Hood.
- 1:27:46Was it a J?
- 1:27:47There was a Jason Todd in that show.
- 1:27:48Wasn't it?
- 1:27:49Like, wasn't God the show with like all Batman villains and no Batman?
- 1:27:53Well, there wasn't a Jason Todd, but there was a guy with the hood and that kept on passing somebody else.
- 1:27:59So the J.
- 1:28:00So the name.
- 1:28:01Which is.
- 1:28:01Which is canon.
- 1:28:02That's canon, yeah.
- 1:28:03Okay.
- 1:28:04OG Red Hood.
- 1:28:05Yeah.
- 1:28:05Yeah.
- 1:28:06So he never did mention Jason's eye.
- 1:28:07But as you know, Gotham was already a hard watch for me anyway because.
- 1:28:11How in the world do you have rogues without Batman?
- 1:28:14They kept pushing it too.
- 1:28:15Don't get me wrong.
- 1:28:16The guy who played Penguin loved him.
- 1:28:19Oh, phenomenal.
- 1:28:20And the guy who played Edward Nigma, you guys too.
- 1:28:24You two nailed it.
- 1:28:25I won't argue that even Jada Pinkett's Fish Mooney was still good.
- 1:28:31Yeah.
- 1:28:32You know, so they.
- 1:28:34They had some good characters, but you're just kind of like, where's this going?
- 1:28:40Let's listen.
- 1:28:41Where is this going?
- 1:28:42You like?
- 1:28:43Because.
- 1:28:43Because, see, now you're introducing certain characters that shouldn't be here.
- 1:28:47The.
- 1:28:49The Poison Ivy thing is still weird to me.
- 1:28:52I'll just leave it at that bear fair.
- 1:28:56The Poison Ivy run was.
- 1:28:58Was.
- 1:28:59I'm like, ew, that's weird.
- 1:29:05Someone called Chris Hansen.
- 1:29:07It didn't make any sense at all.
- 1:29:09But you got a point.
- 1:29:09Not as bad as Deathstroke and Tara in the Judas Contract.
- 1:29:14Just as bad.
- 1:29:18Thank you OG Teen Titans for like, leaving that out of the movie.
- 1:29:21The.
- 1:29:21That entire art completely.
- 1:29:23Like, oh, I could top.
- 1:29:25I could top that and go more cringy.
- 1:29:27I can go Norman Osborne and Gwen Stacy.
- 1:29:31Oh, God.
- 1:29:32Since passed.
- 1:29:33That one was on the top of the list.
- 1:29:34Yeah, that.
- 1:29:36Why?
- 1:29:38Because that one I like I said whoever.
- 1:29:41If you want to talk cringy Cringy.
- 1:29:44And like.
- 1:29:44And like Chris said, the sins past storyline explain why those two had to hook up for this story.
- 1:29:51Oh, God, that was so awkwardly weird, man.
- 1:29:56Listen, anytime.
- 1:29:58I think I'm thinking Willem Dafoe.
- 1:30:02That's even worse.
- 1:30:04But think about that Norman with the waves and Gwen Stacy.
- 1:30:08Enough to make you call Chris Hansen and Law and Order svu.
- 1:30:15For the.
- 1:30:15For the sake of the show, we're calling them predators now.
- 1:30:20Predators.
- 1:30:20I'm good with that.
- 1:30:21Oh, my God.
- 1:30:23That.
- 1:30:24I'm like, oh, it's not enough that you have to torture Peter.
- 1:30:29You have to torture.
- 1:30:32Oh, my God, dude.
- 1:30:34It just.
- 1:30:36It just didn't make any sense at all.
- 1:30:40But I still say cringy.
- 1:30:41One of the cringiest moments in mcu.
- 1:30:46Yeah.
- 1:30:46Look, I'm all for redoing, because I don't know if and when we're gonna get another season of Cape Crusader, especially with Bruce Tim back on board, but y' all can leave the entire, like, him and Barb relationship out
- 1:30:59of it this time.
- 1:31:00I don't think we needed that.
- 1:31:01The fact that that is canon to our Justice League world is like, yeah, got them.
- 1:31:05It's just this ghetto, like, gutter corner where all the bad relationships happen.
- 1:31:10Yes, I.
- 1:31:11We can leave that part.
- 1:31:12Because at least in the Killing Joke, they.
- 1:31:14At least in the Killing Joke, they.
- 1:31:15Well, no, in the Killing Joke, they left that in.
- 1:31:17I'm sorry.
- 1:31:17I was in the killer.
- 1:31:18The Killing Joke didn't have that story at all.
- 1:31:20That's why I was like, why?
- 1:31:21I get that you needed to pad out the run time.
- 1:31:23You could have did literally anything else.
- 1:31:25Like, I did not need to see that, let alone make a theater of it out of it.
- 1:31:30That was still.
- 1:31:31Between that and the Joker.
- 1:31:32That's still cringy.
- 1:31:33If we're talking about bad shipments, can we talk about Black Widow and Bruce Banner in what was the Age of Ultron?
- 1:31:44I didn't like that.
- 1:31:45You didn't like.
- 1:31:46You.
- 1:31:46You didn't like.
- 1:31:47You didn't.
- 1:31:47You didn't.
- 1:31:48You didn't want them to have a happy ending.
- 1:31:49No.
- 1:31:49I mean, I could love them have a happy ending, but why would he.
- 1:31:52Why would.
- 1:31:53No.
- 1:31:54It's such a weird.
- 1:31:55Yeah.
- 1:31:59They got Betty back on the roster, so maybe they're going to correct the timeline.
- 1:32:03Yeah, because I.
- 1:32:03I do get what you're saying, Whoopty.
- 1:32:05Because, you know, Black Widow was just looking to.
- 1:32:08Looking to love somebody.
- 1:32:09She's tried everybody else.
- 1:32:10Let me try a nerd.
- 1:32:11And Bruce is like, I can't Physically have kids.
- 1:32:16Which.
- 1:32:17That was a.
- 1:32:17He's like, well, I have you, right?
- 1:32:19I have.
- 1:32:20Probably have irradiated sperm, so it probably works out.
- 1:32:22So that's the crazy part.
- 1:32:24She's like, out of all things, like, we can't be together.
- 1:32:27I can't have children.
- 1:32:28It's impossible.
- 1:32:30Well, I'm fixed, right?
- 1:32:32And I'm thinking to myself, of all the ways to sit there.
- 1:32:36I was like, just the way she said it, it's though.
- 1:32:39Well, they did it in the red room.
- 1:32:41It's.
- 1:32:41It's.
- 1:32:42It's efficient.
- 1:32:42And I'm thinking to myself, is anybody else feeling cringy?
- 1:32:46That one guy sit there and says that he's fixed?
- 1:32:48And she's like, cool.
- 1:32:49So am I.
- 1:32:49And it's just.
- 1:32:51It's just all get out.
- 1:32:55No.
- 1:32:55Yeah.
- 1:32:56That wasn't like.
- 1:32:57She was pouring on the charm.
- 1:32:58Of course Bruce was getting nervous.
- 1:33:01It was like those type of things.
- 1:33:04Yeah, I'm not.
- 1:33:06I'm not rocking.
- 1:33:07I'm like, we want Bruce to be happy, but let's be honest.
- 1:33:10If him and Black Widow have an.
- 1:33:12Argument, Betty could calm him down.
- 1:33:14Widow's running.
- 1:33:18I don't know if it's on the list, but retconning Wanda and.
- 1:33:23And Pietro.
- 1:33:26I can see that.
- 1:33:27I.
- 1:33:27I hated that.
- 1:33:28I'm like, oh, y'.
- 1:33:29All.
- 1:33:29Y' all copped out.
- 1:33:30Y' all copped out because they copped them.
- 1:33:34They were mutants at first, and then after the success of the films, they retconned them into saying, oh, they're actually not mutants.
- 1:33:45Huh?
- 1:33:46Their father's a mutant.
- 1:33:47Yeah, their father is a whole mutant.
- 1:33:50Like.
- 1:33:50Like King Mutant at this point.
- 1:33:53Yes.
- 1:33:57I.
- 1:33:58I did.
- 1:33:58I didn't like the fact because I still see Wanda and Pietro as mutants.
- 1:34:03They.
- 1:34:03They were born mutants.
- 1:34:05They was always called mutants up until that point.
- 1:34:07They're still mutants.
- 1:34:10True.
- 1:34:12But you know, that.
- 1:34:12That's what they.
- 1:34:13That was a weird retcon to get my head around.
- 1:34:15I hated that.
- 1:34:16They.
- 1:34:17I'm like, so you had all this history and you just.
- 1:34:22Why, I must say, I had another one because I was looking at that CBR list, but I'm.
- 1:34:27But Tafara, Whoopi.
- 1:34:28I think it's y' all guys's turn.
- 1:34:30Yeah.
- 1:34:31Oh, so we'll do what you.
- 1:34:37I'm gonna catch her flag for this.
- 1:34:42We're talking about all the media, right?
- 1:34:45Just the comics.
- 1:34:46Comic community.
- 1:34:46Comics.
- 1:34:48I.
- 1:34:48Oh, just the comics.
- 1:34:50Oh, rats.
- 1:34:54It might.
- 1:34:54Trust me.
- 1:34:56One thing comics does is due to, like, whatever the popularity of a film, they end up Changing things in comics.
- 1:35:04And I hate that they do that pretty much.
- 1:35:06I mean, there's been a couple changes that I quite enjoyed, you know, making Samuel L.
- 1:35:12Actual Nick Fury.
- 1:35:14Oh, it is that.
- 1:35:15They got that inspiration from the comics.
- 1:35:17So it had to work at the same time, folks.
- 1:35:21And folks did complain, not realizing that what they did was actually very accurate because there are two Nick Furies.
- 1:35:29That's it.
- 1:35:30And as a.
- 1:35:31You.
- 1:35:31You do have the one that's on the moon, of course, the one that's running shield.
- 1:35:35So literally, the one on the moon might as well just be the watcher.
- 1:35:41So technically.
- 1:35:42Technically, it's three.
- 1:35:43You had.
- 1:35:44You had Ultimate Nick Fury, which is where that visit visage came from.
- 1:35:48And then you have 616 Nick Fury, which is.
- 1:35:50Marquez.
- 1:35:51Marquez.
- 1:35:52I want to say Jones.
- 1:35:54Yeah, yeah.
- 1:35:54But.
- 1:35:55But his birth name is actually Nick Fury Jr.
- 1:35:58So, yeah, it just worked.
- 1:36:03It worked.
- 1:36:04But, yeah, not a horrible.
- 1:36:07Not a horrible Rick.
- 1:36:08Not so much.
- 1:36:09Recon just added canon.
- 1:36:11Because again, if you're gonna have somebody that's gonna, you know, be the embodiment of Nick Fury to where we know from low and love from the stories, why not Simula Jackson?
- 1:36:20Because all he's not allowed to say is his trademark word because they have to somehow keep it pg.
- 1:36:25But saying that word was sending straight over to R.
- 1:36:30Who's gonna tell.
- 1:36:31Who's gonna tell?
- 1:36:31Sam Jackson?
- 1:36:32No.
- 1:36:34What you got?
- 1:36:36I just thought of one.
- 1:36:38Making Ms.
- 1:36:40Marvel a mutant.
- 1:36:43Yeah.
- 1:36:45I didn't need that.
- 1:36:47I don't need it.
- 1:36:49I don't like it.
- 1:36:50I agree.
- 1:36:51I don't.
- 1:36:51I don't dislike her as a mutant.
- 1:36:54No, I do.
- 1:36:54But I like.
- 1:36:55But it's just weird that.
- 1:36:57Yeah.
- 1:36:58Like, you start her out as an Inhuman, and I think.
- 1:37:01Because then humans really wasn't in all media.
- 1:37:04Wasn't going anywhere.
- 1:37:05They just like, okay, why don't we.
- 1:37:07She's a very much loved character.
- 1:37:09Let's kind of put her over here.
- 1:37:11And, you know, and that's always the part that never made any sense, because you cannot sit there above all else and say, okay, well, she got our powers from a Terrigen exposure.
- 1:37:23Okay, cool.
- 1:37:24But like you said, they were trying to bridge the gap and trying to bring more readers to read against me and read mutants.
- 1:37:30I'm like, okay, well, she's not mutant.
- 1:37:34That was one of the things that they.
- 1:37:35I feel like they did because of the show.
- 1:37:38Yeah, yeah.
- 1:37:39It is the show.
- 1:37:41The show.
- 1:37:41Yeah.
- 1:37:41Like, Ahmad Vellani is.
- 1:37:43Is a fantastic actress in this role.
- 1:37:45It's her first role.
- 1:37:46Acting role, period.
- 1:37:48And she.
- 1:37:49She does fantastically well.
- 1:37:51Like, it's.
- 1:37:52That's Ms.
- 1:37:53Marvel.
- 1:37:53It's just like you see Patrick Stewart, dude, you're either John Luke Picard or you're Professor X.
- 1:37:58Is.
- 1:37:58That's.
- 1:37:59It is what it is.
- 1:38:00You know, Ryan Reynolds is Deadpool, flat out.
- 1:38:03You know.
- 1:38:04You know, up until they find a replacement.
- 1:38:07Hugh Jackman is Wolverine.
- 1:38:09Is.
- 1:38:09It is.
- 1:38:11So these are.
- 1:38:12These roles.
- 1:38:13So have.
- 1:38:16Is such a.
- 1:38:17Is such a inspiration in such a involvement in her character.
- 1:38:23I think they.
- 1:38:24The writers was just like, how do we make her and bring her over here?
- 1:38:29Because the TV show the Inhumans, that went nowhere.
- 1:38:34They.
- 1:38:35They're really not trying to write it at this point in the game.
- 1:38:37They're probably not even trying to write them into the MCU canon.
- 1:38:41There's.
- 1:38:41There's not a lot of pushing comics for them.
- 1:38:44But the crazy part is Inhumans can have a great story.
- 1:38:48They can.
- 1:38:49I mean, with.
- 1:38:50I mean, with the fact of.
- 1:38:51First off, Black Bolt.
- 1:38:54Which.
- 1:38:54Black Bolt.
- 1:38:55Yes.
- 1:38:55In.
- 1:38:56In.
- 1:38:57In Multiverse of Madness.
- 1:39:00Only because somebody ran they goddamn mouth.
- 1:39:04Had he not said a dog on thing about Black Bolt's powers, this would have been over and done with.
- 1:39:09That's all I'm saying.
- 1:39:10Braggadocious in the midst of battle is not the best thing to do.
- 1:39:15But no Inhumans.
- 1:39:16Inhumans could honestly be great.
- 1:39:18It could honestly be great.
- 1:39:19And.
- 1:39:19But like you said with television show, which I still think was badly written and poorly produced because you did more for ages of SHIELD he did for Inhumans.
- 1:39:28But, yeah, it.
- 1:39:31It does suck that they.
- 1:39:32That they'll.
- 1:39:33If they do see the light of day, it'll be down the line.
- 1:39:37Yes.
- 1:39:38Yep.
- 1:39:39I got so tired of them bringing Jean back, I said, God dog it.
- 1:39:43Jean died and she'll be back, like in a week.
- 1:39:47And that's how.
- 1:39:48Why were you just a cameo in Wolverine's bed in the Wolverine.
- 1:39:53Because that's how they treat it.
- 1:39:54It's like you will just.
- 1:39:55Let's stop myself from cussing.
- 1:39:59Sometimes you gotta let.
- 1:40:00Sometimes you gotta let the person just go like, okay, you.
- 1:40:04You brought her back.
- 1:40:05Oh, well, she.
- 1:40:05The Phoenix brought her back.
- 1:40:06Okay, well, the Phoenix Force actually didn't have it.
- 1:40:09Other people.
- 1:40:10But at the same time, it's the reason why Phoenix Darks.
- 1:40:13Dark.
- 1:40:14Phoenix Dark Saga didn't do that well, because twice we got tired of literally seeing.
- 1:40:20And I hate to say it.
- 1:40:22No, no.
- 1:40:22Knock on the actress who did play her in the.
- 1:40:25In the Brian Singer directories.
- 1:40:27I get that, Jensen.
- 1:40:30Yeah.
- 1:40:30But again, people Got tired of it.
- 1:40:33It's like, you won't.
- 1:40:35It's like, at the time we were asking for Deadpool, you kept giving us Jean Gray.
- 1:40:39That's about the best way I could put it.
- 1:40:40This is before Ryan Reynolds and them decided to leak the footage.
- 1:40:42And that's how we got Deadpool movies.
- 1:40:44But we were ready to see Deadpool because, again, it was new, it was fresh, and we knew that, and the right guy was there to play him.
- 1:40:53No offense to Jean Gray.
- 1:40:55How many times and how many X Men movies have we seen you that you've always been the integral piece.
- 1:41:01Sometimes you just need to take a step back, stay dead.
- 1:41:05Yeah, it's far.
- 1:41:07You got another pick.
- 1:41:10Yeah, we got time for another pick.
- 1:41:11Yeah.
- 1:41:11Yeah.
- 1:41:12I'll say back to Kamala Khan.
- 1:41:13I know her because we're talking about the X Men.
- 1:41:16I know her creator made her an Inhuman because she was basically.
- 1:41:19I think her deal came with potential movie rights.
- 1:41:21And she was just like, well, if I become an X Men now I'm stuck over there where it's not going so good.
- 1:41:28So my girls didn't human until that contract runs up.
- 1:41:33Nice.
- 1:41:34So she very much.
- 1:41:35She played the long game on that one.
- 1:41:36And then once the MCU was like, we'll bring her in.
- 1:41:38Mutant song.
- 1:41:39It's like, all right, let's go ahead and fix this.
- 1:41:41The way I intended to, but had to dodge around before I ended up in whatever y' all made after.
- 1:41:48What?
- 1:41:49What.
- 1:41:51What.
- 1:41:52What was the one that everyone actually liked?
- 1:41:54And then they made Phoenix 2.0 after.
- 1:41:57Oh, yeah.
- 1:42:01And they were just like, you know, our contract.
- 1:42:02So it lasts for one more.
- 1:42:03Let's go.
- 1:42:03Dark feeding the second time that nobody.
- 1:42:05Yeah, y' all could have stopped.
- 1:42:07Y' all could have stopped right there.
- 1:42:09Days of futures past.
- 1:42:11It cleared the slate.
- 1:42:13Whole theory about the whole Dark Phoenix thing.
- 1:42:15I still haven't watched that movie.
- 1:42:17You're not missing anything other than the.
- 1:42:18Train scene, pretty much.
- 1:42:21I refuse at this point.
- 1:42:22I'll put it to you like this.
- 1:42:24Just watch the train scene, walk away after that, pretty much.
- 1:42:29You're not missing.
- 1:42:30And here's the crazy thing.
- 1:42:31Is not because of Jean Gray, right?
- 1:42:35It's Magneto.
- 1:42:38I'll also say, like, I know other people have dated other people in, like, the world of Spider Man.
- 1:42:44I have never seen so many people celebrate a breakup until this new, recent person, this Giga Chad that Jean Gray has been not g.
- 1:42:52Mary Jane has been dating in this new Venom comic.
- 1:42:58Good.
- 1:43:00What is the dude's name again?
- 1:43:01Like, Paul or something.
- 1:43:03Yeah, I feel so bad for Paul.
- 1:43:06I've never seen so many people cheer for somebody to get broken up with.
- 1:43:11Because, you know, some people still still want the Mary Jane and Peter route, but at the same time, I'm just like, Paul gave you.
- 1:43:19Paul gave you the jackpot Gauntlet, which is in.
- 1:43:21I still say I was one of the worst, worst characters ever created.
- 1:43:25Then at the same time, you design it to where the.
- 1:43:28The gauntlet could kill you if it rolls.
- 1:43:30If it rolls sevens, the gauntlet can kill you.
- 1:43:34And then on top of that, you know, and then all Star Venom.
- 1:43:38I'm not even gonna get started on that.
- 1:43:39All.
- 1:43:39All brand new Venom where she's Venom.
- 1:43:41I'm not gonna touch that with a ten foot pole.
- 1:43:44But no, I missed the Eddie Brock day.
- 1:43:47Screw this.
- 1:43:48Yeah.
- 1:43:48I'm seeing people who are like, I don't even want her to date Peter.
- 1:43:51I just don't want her with.
- 1:43:52With Paul.
- 1:43:52Like, please, every.
- 1:43:54Like every issue with that book has been, please break up with Paul.
- 1:43:57Please break up with Paul.
- 1:43:59Are we breaking up with Paul this issue.
- 1:44:03Man.
- 1:44:04So, yeah, those.
- 1:44:05Those are just what we got.
- 1:44:07Oh, yeah, we're right on.
- 1:44:08On top.
- 1:44:09Yeah.
- 1:44:09So those are just some of the picks we have that.
- 1:44:14That are just wildly.
- 1:44:16Just insane or nonsensical or just crazy.
- 1:44:22And.
- 1:44:22And thank you to the people in the chat who.
- 1:44:23Who's dropped some of some.
- 1:44:25Some major arcs that count.
- 1:44:28You know, I didn't mention Superboy prime punching reality.
- 1:44:32Do not get me started on that one.
- 1:44:36That.
- 1:44:37Oh, it's screwed.
- 1:44:38I got just enough time.
- 1:44:39There's nothing worse than watching where another crisis event in D.C.
- 1:44:44is going out, and they're like, well, we got to get Superboy Prime.
- 1:44:47What's he gonna do, punch reality?
- 1:44:52If you want to know why I didn't buy a lot of Superman comics in the, like, the 90s, like, after his death is because they made him op.
- 1:45:04Yeah.
- 1:45:05And it.
- 1:45:06I like, we.
- 1:45:08I can't have Superman pushing planets.
- 1:45:14Because.
- 1:45:14Because what's after that?
- 1:45:15How many times is Darkseid gonna show up?
- 1:45:20Same with the Flash, you know?
- 1:45:21Are you talking about his.
- 1:45:23His new.
- 1:45:25The mother of his stepchildren in Harley Quinn?
- 1:45:29No, no, not.
- 1:45:30Not on.
- 1:45:30Not on the same.
- 1:45:31Oh, no, he talked.
- 1:45:32The one that looks like.
- 1:45:33She looks like.
- 1:45:34Yeah, Punchline.
- 1:45:35Yeah, yeah.
- 1:45:36Punchline in the comics is Joker's new boo.
- 1:45:38But not to the DC animated.
- 1:45:40No, that's a whole.
- 1:45:40That's a whole different ball game.
- 1:45:41Yeah, it's.
- 1:45:42It.
- 1:45:43Do not make my.
- 1:45:45Make him the most powerful hero on Earth, but do not make him so powerful that he's pushing planets and can fly so fast that he's breaking.
- 1:45:57We already got Barry and Wally for that.
- 1:45:59We don't need another one.
- 1:46:01Like, he's flying so fast that he can go visit the 31st century whenever he wants.
- 1:46:06Man.
- 1:46:08I don't like that.
- 1:46:10And again, that.
- 1:46:11But like you said, it's one of those things where that's what kills super.
- 1:46:15That's what killed Superman comics.
- 1:46:16You stop making him human.
- 1:46:19Yeah, it was like, he's so powerful.
- 1:46:21What's gonna stop him?
- 1:46:22Somebody brought back Doomsday again.
- 1:46:26Okay, I'll watch the rematch for the second time.
- 1:46:28But, like, how many times you're gonna keep bringing back this person, this creature?
- 1:46:32So, yeah, I was just mad.
- 1:46:34Young justice brought back Red Hood for two seasons to never use him.
- 1:46:39That part just over there.
- 1:46:41Bodyguard.
- 1:46:44Misusing characters.
- 1:46:45That's all it is.
- 1:46:48Well, it is that special.
- 1:46:49Time we're getting out of here.
- 1:46:51Whoopty.
- 1:46:52Our lady of the evening.
- 1:46:54Talk to the people.
- 1:46:58Oh, you muted.
- 1:47:03Once again.
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- 1:47:09And also, it's spooky season.
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- 1:47:15There we go.
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- 1:47:55Because I've had to start writing stuff down.
- 1:47:57I am done with Cold Lioca Quest for Infinity.
- 1:48:00I am doing Sonic Riders tomorrow.
- 1:48:03I just posted a recap of my early screening for the Demon Slayer movie, as well as some of the footage I got to do for Marvel's token battle, which is a lot of fun.
- 1:48:13The sweats are going to be absolutely abominable in there if they play Dr.
- 1:48:18Doom.
- 1:48:18Just leave the lobby.
- 1:48:19Demon Slayer was good.
- 1:48:21It's worth the watch.
- 1:48:22It really just depends on how you feel about, like, backstory and how much of it you want.
- 1:48:27We also, I.
- 1:48:28It's worth spending your money.
- 1:48:29I'll say that much.
- 1:48:30We don't because it's, it's two and a half hours.
- 1:48:32Like they don't waste a lot of that time doing anything or like doing nothing.
- 1:48:38So it's, it is a solid like full length feature film.
- 1:48:41So don't think it's going to be like 90 minutes in and out.
- 1:48:44You are sitting there for a hot minute.
- 1:48:47Also it's in English and Japanese so whichever you prefer, you can go watch it in that Also played the entirety of the old 2000 Spider man game last Friday.
- 1:48:58Still working on getting other short form and long form content out as the weeks roll on.
- 1:49:06Potentially might be able to let y' all know about that new game Reloaded.
- 1:49:09I am waiting until them to return my email, but they just hit me like right before the show so that's pending.
- 1:49:16Other than that, stay safe, stay off the timeline and you don't Everything doesn't need our involvement.
- 1:49:22Feel free to just let people tell on themselves and then delete accordingly.
- 1:49:25Exactly.
- 1:49:26Not every, not everything deserves a comment, but there are plenty of laughs.
- 1:49:30I would say that like Deadpool, Wolverine.
- 1:49:33Everybody doesn't get a speech.
- 1:49:37Spartan and Demon Slayer they do.
- 1:49:40I'm gonna tell you that right now.
- 1:49:41Everybody gets, everyone gets a speech.
- 1:49:43But not, not here, not on Earth616.
- 1:49:48I had to stop myself because I was about to say.
- 1:49:50I was about to say something.
- 1:49:51I'm like nope, nope.
- 1:49:52Not the place.
- 1:49:53Not the place.
- 1:49:55Black/spartan615 is where you can find me on the socials guys.
- 1:49:59Shows are still going on.
- 1:50:01Of course we did cover for the craziness that's going on.
- 1:50:04However we got here every Wednesday at 7 to 5.
- 1:50:07Myself and Joe usually cover news forget bit for this Friday so hoping to see what comes out.
- 1:50:13Nintendo Direct.
- 1:50:13Will they announce something different?
- 1:50:15Will they announce something old?
- 1:50:16Will Nintendo sue somebody?
- 1:50:18Probably so definitely check us out there.
- 1:50:22Outside of that I am still playing Hollow Knight Silk song.
- 1:50:25I just gotta remember to put myself on tick tock on on the socials live when I'm playing so that way I actually can talk to people instead of myself.
- 1:50:32That would be nice.
- 1:50:34At the same time guys, the rules still do apply.
- 1:50:38Respect the cosplayers all the time.
- 1:50:39Cosplay is not consent.
- 1:50:41Please wash your ass because trust me, viruses and whatnot are flying.
- 1:50:46It's not even fall time yet.
- 1:50:47So please clean clothes, hygiene, all the important things.
- 1:50:51Also talk and share your fandoms.
- 1:50:54Be nice, be kind, don't be a dick and we'll all be cool.
- 1:50:58All right.
- 1:51:01And it is now my time.
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- 1:51:45Yeah, yeah, you know, go over the room full of blurbs.
- 1:51:49I don't know why it's taking everyone.
- 1:51:51So long to get those two next for people.
- 1:51:53I don't know why.
- 1:51:55But she has good stuff.
- 1:51:57She's got great guests.
- 1:51:59You like indie comics?
- 1:52:00She got them and she gonna walk you through them.
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- 1:52:07Steal a cousin or a co worker's phone and go hit that button real quick.
- 1:52:10Yeah, that's all you gotta do.
- 1:52:12So remember, as we close out, remember to educate yourself and others, entertain yourself and others and most of all, encourage yourself and others.
- 1:52:19Also, if you have any other tier lists that you want us to cover, if you have any other weird and wonderful comic book topics you want us to talk about, you know, we've done worse villains.
- 1:52:34We've done Hater of the year.
- 1:52:35We've done.
- 1:52:38We, we've done.
- 1:52:40We might be revisiting that one after one A.
- 1:52:42One A one A.
- 1:52:44So if you have any other suggestions like that, please feel free to drop it in the comment section or, or on this page or wherever it is you see us playing off because until then we're gonna be minding
- 1:52:58our black ass business and then we are going to be out of here.
- 1:53:03We don't celebrate.
- 1:53:06We don't.
- 1:53:06We just listen.
- 1:53:07We don't judge.
- 1:53:10And we take lunch orders.
- 1:53:12And we take lunch orders.
- 1:53:15We offer empathy where it's needed and this ain't one of them.
- 1:53:19So that's how they wanted it.
- 1:53:21That's how they gonna get it.
- 1:53:28Not the ice cube.
- 1:53:29That not that's the ice cube look from now, from this day for forward.
- 1:53:33That'S gonna be the ice cube response.
- 1:53:35Oh, okay.
- 1:53:39We will see you guys Tuesday with another great topic and more news, blurred news and nerdy news that you shake a stick at.
- 1:53:47Until then, we're out of here, girl.
- 1:53:56Snake, are you okay?
- 1:53:57Snake.
- 1:53:59Snake.
- 1:54:24Sa.