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- 0:00Speaker 1: As far as how your fans viewed you, there couldn't
- 0:04Speaker 1: have been a worst season coming off of how electric
- 0:06Speaker 1: October twenty twenty three was.
- 0:12Speaker 2: Here we go, Dan Hayes joining us from the Athletic
- 0:14Speaker 2: covering the Minnesota Twins. We're going to jump into their
- 0:17Speaker 2: storylines in a moment. But before we do that, Dan,
- 0:21Speaker 2: you know the storylines we cover for twenty twenty five
- 0:23Speaker 2: or there. It's something that you know someone can see
- 0:25Speaker 2: weeks from now and it's probably going to stay stable.
- 0:27Speaker 2: So I want to know before we get to that
- 0:29Speaker 2: point if you think we're going to have to redo
- 0:31Speaker 2: them because the Twins would suddenly do something crazy like
- 0:35Speaker 2: a Dylan c.
- 0:36Speaker 3: Smove.
- 0:36Speaker 2: I read your article was great. Can you give us
- 0:38Speaker 2: more context on why you think it probably won't happen?
- 0:42Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it won't happen a because I think
- 0:46Speaker 1: one I mean, is anybody convinced that aj Peler really
- 0:49Speaker 1: wants to do it? Because how does he truly improve
- 0:52Speaker 1: the Padres by getting rid of Dylan Ceas. I mean,
- 0:55Speaker 1: like that's still a team. I know they have everything
- 0:58Speaker 1: going on right now with their ownership situation, and there's
- 1:00Speaker 1: rumors about needing to cut payroll. But I mean, like
- 1:04Speaker 1: Dylan cees, taking them off the padres gives them far
- 1:07Speaker 1: less of a chance to compete. And if he can
- 1:10Speaker 1: capitalize and get three or four guys to fill out
- 1:12Speaker 1: all the holes they have, then yeah, okay, that makes sense.
- 1:16Speaker 1: Do the Twins really want to pay that premium for
- 1:18Speaker 1: one year? This is a team that knows that their
- 1:22Speaker 1: prospects are, how they're going to stay alive, how they're
- 1:25Speaker 1: going to be afloat for years while they deal with,
- 1:29Speaker 1: you know, being a mid market team on the bottom
- 1:31Speaker 1: of the on the bottom of that mid section. I
- 1:34Speaker 1: think they're seventeenth in market size and usually they're seventeenth,
- 1:37Speaker 1: eighteenth or nineteenth in payroll. So it's always prospects and
- 1:41Speaker 1: young guys that keep them afloat so they can sign
- 1:44Speaker 1: around the edges and it's tough one. I could never
- 1:48Speaker 1: see them trading Walker Jenkins or Emmanuel Rodriguez or Lukeishel
- 1:52Speaker 1: for one year of Dylan cease and I think, you know,
- 1:55Speaker 1: Aj Probler probably wants to really reload.
- 1:58Speaker 3: Look at what Corbyn Burns brought the Brewers last year.
- 2:01Speaker 1: They got two guys that were formerly top one hundred
- 2:04Speaker 1: prospects and a comp pick. You know, obviously that part
- 2:10Speaker 1: that Dylan Cees if he got traded before the season started,
- 2:12Speaker 1: would bring whatever team the qualifying offer the compensation pick
- 2:17Speaker 1: for the qualifying offer next year. That definitely complicates matters.
- 2:21Speaker 1: But you know, I imagine a J Prowler is aiming
- 2:24Speaker 1: high to fill those shoes if he was to move on,
- 2:27Speaker 1: and what does that mean? And you know, I think
- 2:30Speaker 1: it would be some really he wants major league talent.
- 2:34Speaker 1: So I think it'd be really difficult to remove a
- 2:37Speaker 1: couple of major leaguers from the Twins unless they let
- 2:41Speaker 1: them do what they want. And you know, I mean,
- 2:44Speaker 1: I just don't know that it matches up, but it's
- 2:46Speaker 1: absolutely something I think the Twins need to do, just
- 2:49Speaker 1: because they need to find a way to recapture this
- 2:51Speaker 1: fan base. They still have not drawn two million fans
- 2:55Speaker 1: since twenty nineteen, and when you think about it, post lockout,
- 2:59Speaker 1: they traded for Sonny Green, they signed Carlos Korea, they
- 3:01Speaker 1: didn't draw two million fans that year. They were in
- 3:04Speaker 1: first place as of Labor Day, and you know, they
- 3:06Speaker 1: were really beat up that year and collapsed.
- 3:09Speaker 3: In Cleveland one.
- 3:10Speaker 1: But they win the division in twenty three they don't
- 3:13Speaker 1: make two million fans that year. Usually you bump, you
- 3:16Speaker 1: get a bump the year after you win a division,
- 3:19Speaker 1: but ownership cut payroll by thirty million dollars. Going into
- 3:22Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four season. They drew even fewer fans
- 3:25Speaker 1: than they did in the division winning season, even though
- 3:27Speaker 1: they were seventy and fifty three on August seventeenth. And
- 3:31Speaker 1: you know, in line, I think they were like ninety
- 3:33Speaker 1: five ninety six percent chance of making the playoffs. They
- 3:36Speaker 1: didn't draw. So this this team needs to do something
- 3:40Speaker 1: to reconnect with its fan base. And the story I
- 3:43Speaker 1: wrote the other day was just basically, hey, you have
- 3:45Speaker 1: this new TV deal. The amount of households that can
- 3:49Speaker 1: now see Twins Baseball because of no blackouts is four
- 3:53Speaker 1: point four million. Last year it was one point three
- 3:55Speaker 1: seven million fans or households over the five states of
- 3:59Speaker 1: Twins territory. So you're tripling your potential audience. And look,
- 4:03Speaker 1: the money is never going to be the same as
- 4:05Speaker 1: it was when it was Ballely Sports that was fifty
- 4:09Speaker 1: four million dollars two years ago. Streaming does not allow
- 4:12Speaker 1: for that kind of money. I think the Potter's had
- 4:15Speaker 1: forty thousand subscribers going into last season, So do the math.
- 4:19Speaker 1: It's you know, five million bucks. But at the same time,
- 4:22Speaker 1: you have a chance to attract new fans. There's tons
- 4:25Speaker 1: of little kids, you know, three times the little kids
- 4:28Speaker 1: across those five states now can see the twins that
- 4:31Speaker 1: weren't able to before. You know, the time is right
- 4:34Speaker 1: to make a move and kind of try to win
- 4:36Speaker 1: back your fans. It's just do you really want to
- 4:38Speaker 1: pay that price? And that's why I think it's unlikely.
- 4:41Speaker 1: But you know, it's they've definitely fished in the waters
- 4:44Speaker 1: and checked the out things. They even asked about Luis Castillo,
- 4:48Speaker 1: and that's not gonna happen just because the money is
- 4:51Speaker 1: way out of their market their league right now.
- 4:54Speaker 3: But they've certainly looked for those kind of moves.
- 4:57Speaker 2: Dan, I want to buy back on two points. Umber One, sure,
- 5:01Speaker 2: you were a playoff team the year before, but then
- 5:03Speaker 2: you smacked your fans in the face marketing wise and
- 5:05Speaker 2: said we're not doing a single thing.
- 5:07Speaker 3: We hate you.
- 5:08Speaker 2: So that's why fans didn't show up and ultimately they crumbled.
- 5:12Speaker 2: Number two, MLB was holding back streaming availability that was
- 5:16Speaker 2: on the league in my opinion, and Also, now you're
- 5:19Speaker 2: taking away the discoverability because you will only be able
- 5:22Speaker 2: to watch them or see them if you go into
- 5:23Speaker 2: an MLB platform versus streaming or versus landing on them.
- 5:27Speaker 2: So I'm biting back. I actually firmly disagree with some
- 5:30Speaker 2: of this stuff and thinks it will hurt them and
- 5:32Speaker 2: think it will hurt them long term. But that's my
- 5:34Speaker 2: take anyway.
- 5:36Speaker 1: No, and also this, the fact that they didn't have
- 5:40Speaker 1: streaming last year really hurt them because they had that.
- 5:44Speaker 1: You know, Exfinity had the three months dispute with Diamond
- 5:47Speaker 1: Sports right during the middle of the part where the Twins.
- 5:50Speaker 3: Were good, they weren't.
- 5:52Speaker 1: I think May one was the first date and they
- 5:54Speaker 1: were going for win number eleven in a row, and
- 5:56Speaker 1: that winning.
- 5:57Speaker 3: Streak that they had with the rally Sausage.
- 5:59Speaker 1: Right when people want to tune in. They were taken
- 6:02Speaker 1: off the air for three months and not having a
- 6:04Speaker 1: streaming option it last year. Potentially as far as how
- 6:10Speaker 1: your fans viewed you, there couldn't have been a worse
- 6:13Speaker 1: season coming off of how electric October twenty twenty three was,
- 6:17Speaker 1: and you know, fans were fired up. I mean that's
- 6:20Speaker 1: the first time they'd won a playoff series in twenty
- 6:22Speaker 1: one years. And I know we talked about the just
- 6:24Speaker 1: a losing streak, the eighteen game losing streak, but to
- 6:26Speaker 1: win a series for the first time in twenty one years,
- 6:28Speaker 1: you had people excited about being at the ballpark and
- 6:32Speaker 1: to go with, you know, thirty million dollars off that payroll,
- 6:35Speaker 1: And like you said, it was sort of a slap
- 6:38Speaker 1: in the face to do that. And if you're working
- 6:40Speaker 1: with limitations, if you're the front office, but there's not
- 6:43Speaker 1: much you can do, and it certainly is not a
- 6:46Speaker 1: great place to be as you're trying to sell the
- 6:49Speaker 1: more people A damn.
- 6:51Speaker 4: I got to ask you kind of it's kind of
- 6:53Speaker 4: a personal question, but it's involved in this. You've you've
- 6:56Speaker 4: covered the Padres, the White Sox, and the Twins. Why
- 6:59Speaker 4: is it every time you covered they start snipping payroll
- 7:01Speaker 4: instead of adding I don't know, it just it just
- 7:03Speaker 4: seems like a weird coincidence that the Padres, the White Sox,
- 7:07Speaker 4: and the Twins all have to cut payroll after you
- 7:09Speaker 4: were around them.
- 7:10Speaker 1: Hey, it's shocking to me that twenty nineteen was the
- 7:15Speaker 1: first time I ever even covered a playoff team. So
- 7:18Speaker 1: after starting in two thousand and seven. So I mean,
- 7:20Speaker 1: like I've been at some of these franchises at their
- 7:23Speaker 1: lowest points. I would bet that my period of watching
- 7:27Speaker 1: the White Sox beat writer winning percentages, it's probably in
- 7:31Speaker 1: the bottom ten percent, having been there from twenty twelve
- 7:34Speaker 1: to twenty seventeen.
- 7:35Speaker 3: And yeah, it's a good point. That's a good point.
- 7:38Speaker 1: Maybe I should just move on to another franchise and maybe,
- 7:41Speaker 1: you know what, it would be interesting to see if
- 7:42Speaker 1: I cover the Dodgers what they did with payroll at
- 7:44Speaker 1: this point.
- 7:45Speaker 4: They probably they probably they probably you know, just release
- 7:48Speaker 4: show hey and just be like, oh, we're just we
- 7:50Speaker 4: gave up, Dan hayeses here we give.
- 7:51Speaker 2: Up The Dodgers would turn into the Mavericks from this
- 7:54Speaker 2: past weekend.
- 7:54Speaker 3: All right.
- 7:55Speaker 2: I want to get to storylines, though, So let's cue
- 7:57Speaker 2: that up. The big four storylines for the Minnesota Twins
- 8:09Speaker 2: heading into this season. I mean, the sale has to
- 8:11Speaker 2: take center stage because this team could get taken over
- 8:14Speaker 2: by a billionaire who actually gives a crap about baseball
- 8:16Speaker 2: and winning. So stay tuned, will ask Dan about that
- 8:19Speaker 2: a redemption season or could a slow start lead to
- 8:21Speaker 2: a manager change or some other type of change with
- 8:24Speaker 2: this ball club, the usual health questions, Krea, Buxton, Lewis,
- 8:28Speaker 2: how they doing?
- 8:29Speaker 3: And the baby bats.
- 8:29Speaker 2: I mean, this team's got a good farm system, So Dan,
- 8:32Speaker 2: let's start at the top. This team could get dealt
- 8:34Speaker 2: by opening day. And by delt, I mean to an
- 8:37Speaker 2: owner who actually gives a crap. I'm sure Twins fans
- 8:40Speaker 2: are following this story closely and you've been all over it.
- 8:42Speaker 2: So where are we at? And do you think it
- 8:45Speaker 2: will change the complexion of this franchise if they land
- 8:48Speaker 2: with an owner who is not obsessed with saying the
- 8:51Speaker 2: word revenue or portfolio.
- 8:53Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 8:54Speaker 1: Look, this is the story for the Twins this offseason.
- 8:56Speaker 1: I mean it's been forty years of the same ownership
- 8:59Speaker 1: and the one two World Series. Early on, they did
- 9:02Speaker 1: spend on payroll a couple of times. When target Field opened,
- 9:06Speaker 1: I think there were ninth and tenth in payroll, and
- 9:08Speaker 1: fans came out, I mean fans. There were three million
- 9:11Speaker 1: fans in those first two years of target Field. There
- 9:12Speaker 1: was three million fans after it was either the first
- 9:15Speaker 1: World Series or the second World Series. But payroll has
- 9:19Speaker 1: never been a good thing for the Twins. Usually it's
- 9:23Speaker 1: you know, seventeenth eighteenth. It's been bottom of the barrel
- 9:27Speaker 1: at the start of the two thousands, so that could
- 9:31Speaker 1: change everything absolutely, And you know, I think it's something
- 9:34Speaker 1: that fans are optimistic about. But also, look, you know
- 9:37Speaker 1: I was I covered the Padres when they sold in
- 9:39Speaker 1: two thousand and nine and John Morris was going through
- 9:44Speaker 1: a divorce at the time and had to sell, and
- 9:46Speaker 1: Jeff Moraed came in, and you know, a year later,
- 9:50Speaker 1: Jed Hoyer, I still remember, was on the dais at
- 9:55Speaker 1: Indianapolis just looking pale because he had to trade Adrian
- 9:59Speaker 1: Gonzalez to the Red Sox because the team with the
- 10:02Speaker 1: thirty eight million dollars payroll had to slash even more
- 10:05Speaker 1: and couldn't afford to sign Adrianganzolz to a long term contract.
- 10:08Speaker 1: So you never really know what you're going to get. Now,
- 10:10Speaker 1: this is hopeful because look, you look at the market
- 10:15Speaker 1: and there haven't been a lot of Major League Baseball
- 10:17Speaker 1: teams for sale in the last fifteen years. I think
- 10:20Speaker 1: since the Dodgers sold and the Padres back in twenty twelve,
- 10:24Speaker 1: I think there have been five total. And the Orioles
- 10:27Speaker 1: were sold four days after Peter Angelos died and that
- 10:29Speaker 1: was a quiet deal. It's not like they were out
- 10:32Speaker 1: in the open market. I don't think that Kansas City
- 10:34Speaker 1: was really out on the market. So you're looking at
- 10:37Speaker 1: the Mets, you're looking at the Marlins, and the Mariners
- 10:40Speaker 1: was even within their own ownership structure. I think somebody
- 10:43Speaker 1: stepped up and bought more. So it's not like there's
- 10:45Speaker 1: been an open bidding. And when you have thirty of
- 10:48Speaker 1: these products, you know people are interested in buying. So
- 10:51Speaker 1: I think there's hope in that. You know, the name
- 10:53Speaker 1: that I've reported and this been out there is Justin
- 10:56Speaker 1: Ishbia and his brother Matt owns the Phoenix, and Justin's
- 11:01Speaker 1: a partial owner of the Suns. They own a minor
- 11:04Speaker 1: league baseball team, they own soccer. They they definitely represent
- 11:09Speaker 1: hope to Twins fans because I think, you know, he's
- 11:12Speaker 1: a huge baseball fan. There's we've written at The Athletic
- 11:15Speaker 1: about his donations to Michigan State and his thoughts on baseball,
- 11:19Speaker 1: and I think that you know, you want someone that's
- 11:22Speaker 1: a fan in there, and you want someone that knows
- 11:24Speaker 1: and I think I think Scott Boris said this at
- 11:26Speaker 1: the GM meetings. You want someone that knows that they're
- 11:30Speaker 1: no longer anonymous. They have winner or loser attached their
- 11:34Speaker 1: name once they buy a franchise, and you never know
- 11:37Speaker 1: what you're going to get. You could get John Fisher,
- 11:38Speaker 1: you could get Bob Nutting, or you could get you know,
- 11:41Speaker 1: Steve Cohene.
- 11:42Speaker 3: So like somewhere in between. Twins fans would be thrilled.
- 11:44Speaker 1: If someone came in and wanted to spend twenty million
- 11:47Speaker 1: bucks on the payroll and cut beer prices by a
- 11:50Speaker 1: buck or whatever.
- 11:51Speaker 3: And you know, I think.
- 11:53Speaker 1: There's there's room for hope for Twins fans, and I
- 11:56Speaker 1: do think that we will see someone picked by opening day.
- 11:59Speaker 1: What the structure looks like as far as baseball proving
- 12:02Speaker 1: that that's a good question because it takes obviously time
- 12:05Speaker 1: to get the approval of the owners. But I would
- 12:09Speaker 1: think that the vetting is pretty pretty thorough right now.
- 12:12Speaker 3: Of the groups they're going forward, two.
- 12:15Speaker 4: Things Dan real quick before we get to the next one.
- 12:16Speaker 4: One the White Sox people the fans, they want them
- 12:20Speaker 4: to buy the White Sox because I think they're small
- 12:22Speaker 4: owner in the White Sox already, so forget the Twins.
- 12:24Speaker 4: The White Sox want those guys to buy their team,
- 12:26Speaker 4: and second of all, dais. I never heard the word
- 12:28Speaker 4: deis in my life until we went to the BBWAA
- 12:31Speaker 4: Awards and like every guy and I'm like, what the
- 12:33Speaker 4: hell is a dais? What are they talking about? I'm
- 12:35Speaker 4: missing a word here, and then you just drop dais.
- 12:37Speaker 4: That's definitely the first time that word's ever been dropped.
- 12:39Speaker 4: So that's it all. Let crowds go to the next storyline.
- 12:41Speaker 5: Now.
- 12:43Speaker 1: I think that's the first time I've ever used that word,
- 12:45Speaker 1: by the way, so you got to be there too,
- 12:48Speaker 1: me too.
- 12:49Speaker 5: Well done, well done, AJ use it like four times.
- 12:52Speaker 5: So now he's done for like the rest of his life. No,
- 12:55Speaker 5: I'm going to go to the fact that you were
- 12:58Speaker 5: just talking about, how like this really is hinging on
- 13:00Speaker 5: payroll and ownership selling or not selling? So would it
- 13:05Speaker 5: be fair because this team, I mean is in the
- 13:07Speaker 5: American League Central, where three teams made the playoffs, they
- 13:11Speaker 5: were on the outside looking in? Is this rockaball Deli's like,
- 13:15Speaker 5: if it starts slow, could he be on the trading
- 13:18Speaker 5: block or I mean on the cutting block here.
- 13:21Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good question, and I will say that
- 13:24Speaker 1: Derek falve to no end talks about the great partnership
- 13:28Speaker 1: that they have, so I would put it less likely,
- 13:33Speaker 1: but you never know. I mean, look, last year was terrible,
- 13:35Speaker 1: the end of the season was not good, and you
- 13:37Speaker 1: were going to have a new ownership group come in,
- 13:40Speaker 1: So that puts anything on the table, I think, because
- 13:45Speaker 1: you know, a new owner gets to say what they want,
- 13:47Speaker 1: and so who knows what the foundation of the Twins
- 13:50Speaker 1: looks like from a front office standpoint, from a field
- 13:54Speaker 1: staff standpoint in a year. I mean, but you know,
- 13:57Speaker 1: winning is a cure all and it's crazy. This team
- 14:00Speaker 1: has done nothing this offseason, and you can understand for
- 14:03Speaker 1: the most part the limitations. They have still a little
- 14:06Speaker 1: bit of money to spend. I'm told they have a
- 14:08Speaker 1: you know, a little bit of a wiggle room, maybe
- 14:10Speaker 1: five million bucks. There's no cutting of the payroll this year.
- 14:14Speaker 1: They need to do something still. They need to round
- 14:16Speaker 1: out the roster a little bit. The bullpen is outstanding,
- 14:20Speaker 1: but there still could be some minor ads there. I
- 14:23Speaker 1: think they need ads in outfield. They need to do more,
- 14:28Speaker 1: even though they're projected on paper to win eighty eight
- 14:31Speaker 1: games right now, because yeah, you're right, a slow start
- 14:35Speaker 1: could do them in. You know, but last year, I
- 14:37Speaker 1: think they started seven and thirteen and one thing that
- 14:40Speaker 1: Roco did a great job. You know, they were down
- 14:42Speaker 1: Royce Lewis at that point, they were down Carlos Korea
- 14:44Speaker 1: was keeping them together and they rolled off that you know,
- 14:47Speaker 1: winning streak and got back into competition, and then they
- 14:51Speaker 1: had the hideous ends of the season and it's hard
- 14:54Speaker 1: to erase that. And who knows if they came out
- 14:57Speaker 1: and went, you know, twenty and forty, there's still a
- 15:01Speaker 1: fair amount of money for the Twins payroll wise, to
- 15:04Speaker 1: be invested, and it could lead to a change.
- 15:08Speaker 5: Oh that would be shocking.
- 15:10Speaker 4: I think, yeah, it would be shocking, just because of
- 15:12Speaker 4: the way what Rock has done, the way they talk about.
- 15:14Speaker 1: Roco and so yeah, but let's Letten just to reemphasize.
- 15:19Speaker 1: I mean, I think he they were down Buckston, they
- 15:23Speaker 1: were down Korea when they fell apart last year, the
- 15:25Speaker 1: minute Joe Ryan went down. You had two starters with
- 15:28Speaker 1: the ability to go five. I mean, they were so
- 15:31Speaker 1: up against They did a good job getting through what
- 15:33Speaker 1: they could, but that offense quit and at one point
- 15:36Speaker 1: in September and Rocco doing the part where he said
- 15:40Speaker 1: that it was an unprofessional series that was eye opening
- 15:43Speaker 1: and and so it was a lot of chaos going
- 15:47Speaker 1: on because of stuff, you know, because they didn't have depth,
- 15:51Speaker 1: and again that it didn't come off well externally. Fans
- 15:56Speaker 1: were upset. But I agree because because Derek Valve has
- 15:59Speaker 1: mentioned so many times how much of a partnership he
- 16:02Speaker 1: has with Roco that it would be it would take
- 16:04Speaker 1: something really egregious or you know, just a big kind
- 16:10Speaker 1: of maybe disappointment to see them moving.
- 16:15Speaker 4: Okay, all right, so you mentioned it a little bit.
- 16:17Speaker 4: The injuries. Can they keep Carlos Korea, Can they keep
- 16:20Speaker 4: Byron Bucks And can they keep Royce Lewis? Can they
- 16:22Speaker 4: keep some of the pitchers healthy in order to get
- 16:24Speaker 4: to their number of eighty eight? That's the biggest question
- 16:26Speaker 4: for me is right, Yes, they haven't spent, but the
- 16:28Speaker 4: guys they have here, can they keep them healthy? What
- 16:30Speaker 4: do you think the games played of these guys are
- 16:32Speaker 4: and how healthy can they be?
- 16:34Speaker 1: Yeah, Buckston getting to one hundred games last year was encouraging.
- 16:37Speaker 1: I know they're excited because this is the first healthy
- 16:40Speaker 1: offseason he's had since the twenty eighteen twenty nineteen, and
- 16:44Speaker 1: I remember at that point he'd had an injury riddled
- 16:47Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, and he really was fine going into the
- 16:51Speaker 1: offseason and was doing like two days and hitting all day.
- 16:55Speaker 1: And it's really when Byron Buckston took off offensively to
- 16:58Speaker 1: the kind of hitter that he's become the last couple
- 17:00Speaker 1: of years. So they're pumped about that, but the injury
- 17:04Speaker 1: history suggests there's always something right around the corner with him.
- 17:07Speaker 1: Carlos Korea looked really in shape. We talked to him
- 17:11Speaker 1: at twins Fest last weekend. He looked, you know, like
- 17:15Speaker 1: he's ready to go, and he talked about it. I think,
- 17:18Speaker 1: you know, it's funny he's going to have to do
- 17:20Speaker 1: the treatment at all times on the heels or the
- 17:24Speaker 1: planner fasciatus on both feet. But I think he feels
- 17:27Speaker 1: a lot more prepared for that after the two years
- 17:29Speaker 1: are going through it. It's just that that's hard to escape.
- 17:31Speaker 1: I mean, it's something that sticks around once you get it.
- 17:34Speaker 1: And you know, he's doing this shock wave of therapy
- 17:38Speaker 1: on the right foot that he said last year was
- 17:41Speaker 1: so painful that it would make him tear up when
- 17:43Speaker 1: he was taking it. So but he's in much better
- 17:46Speaker 1: place now because of where the feet are, So you know,
- 17:49Speaker 1: how do they manage that. That'll be interesting. They're going
- 17:51Speaker 1: to need someone to step in at times at shortstop.
- 17:54Speaker 1: Royce Lewis, you know, the end of the season, he
- 17:59Speaker 1: kind of figured out a new routine. They talked about
- 18:01Speaker 1: it that he changed things midyear after he came back
- 18:04Speaker 1: from the devastating quad injury on opening Day. The ends,
- 18:08Speaker 1: I think he played fifty eight of sixty one games
- 18:10Speaker 1: at the end of the season. That's the longest he
- 18:12Speaker 1: stayed on the major league field at any time. I
- 18:14Speaker 1: think they're hopeful that that's the trend. But he's blown
- 18:17Speaker 1: out his knee twice, he has a quad injury. He's definitely,
- 18:21Speaker 1: you know, had tricky little injuries here and there over
- 18:23Speaker 1: his time in the majors. So the fact that you're
- 18:25Speaker 1: built around those three, you know, it leads to concerns.
- 18:29Speaker 3: You need depth. That's why some of these young guys
- 18:32Speaker 3: are going to have to come through.
- 18:33Speaker 1: The brooks Lee's, the Edward Julians, the Jose Mirandas the
- 18:38Speaker 1: you know guys like that. And it's why Willy Castro
- 18:40Speaker 1: remains valuable to them is because they can put him
- 18:42Speaker 1: in at shortstop for twenty games of Carlos Corego's on
- 18:46Speaker 1: the il and it's something that they need more of.
- 18:49Speaker 1: They need outfield depth right now. You know, the outfield's
- 18:52Speaker 1: pretty thin to think if you looked at it right now.
- 18:54Speaker 1: Willie Castro is probably their fourth outfielder. He's really sort
- 18:58Speaker 1: of your back up every position with the exception of catcher,
- 19:02Speaker 1: and they've talked about maybe even putting him at first
- 19:05Speaker 1: base and knowing he could handle it, and it wouldn't
- 19:08Speaker 1: shock me at all.
- 19:09Speaker 3: But you know, pitching wise, you know.
- 19:12Speaker 1: Bailey over previously, he's been healthy the last couple of
- 19:15Speaker 1: years and has done really well. He had previous injury
- 19:17Speaker 1: history that they helped him manage his way through. Joe Ryan,
- 19:22Speaker 1: you know, the groin got him in twenty twenty three.
- 19:24Speaker 1: Last year he had the forearm injury. Or you know,
- 19:30Speaker 1: that's challenging. But he came in sounding like he's feeling
- 19:33Speaker 1: really good. He said that before he got to camp
- 19:36Speaker 1: he wanted to be hitting ninety on the gun and
- 19:38Speaker 1: in his first bullpen session, his first pitch was like
- 19:41Speaker 1: eighty nine to five, and so he feels really good.
- 19:43Speaker 1: Where they've said that, there's the MRIs have showed that
- 19:46Speaker 1: he's cleared. He's never really been an injury history guy.
- 19:49Speaker 1: So you know at the top you've got those three guys,
- 19:52Speaker 1: but you know it's then you're looking at Chris Paddock
- 19:54Speaker 1: and Simon Woods, Richardson, David Festol. You've got some questions
- 19:58Speaker 1: at the back end of the rotation. But you know,
- 20:01Speaker 1: Paddock thinks he's going to be healthy and good to go.
- 20:03Speaker 1: He just didn't return at the end of last year.
- 20:05Speaker 1: And you know, the key for them would be not
- 20:07Speaker 1: have to push him the way they did last year.
- 20:10Speaker 1: Anthony Deskafani's injury in spring training meant that Chris Paddock
- 20:14Speaker 1: was full go from the start coming off of his
- 20:16Speaker 1: second Tommy John and that was not a great spot
- 20:18Speaker 1: to be in for them.
- 20:19Speaker 2: Dan last one because we're pushing against a break here,
- 20:22Speaker 2: so I'm going to phrase it this way to get
- 20:24Speaker 2: to it quicker. So prospects, give me the guy that
- 20:27Speaker 2: is going to make an impact of the bigger names
- 20:30Speaker 2: this year. So we got like thirty seconds, But give
- 20:32Speaker 2: me the one name on our way out here.
- 20:35Speaker 3: If he can stay healthy. Emmanuel Rodriguez.
- 20:37Speaker 1: That's my guess, just because he's at Triple A already,
- 20:39Speaker 1: outfield is probably where they have their most holes. I
- 20:43Speaker 1: think he can make a If he was hitting a
- 20:45Speaker 1: ton at Triple A and staying healthy, he can be
- 20:48Speaker 1: up here pretty quick.
- 20:49Speaker 2: There you go, Okay, circle the name. Of course, we
- 20:52Speaker 2: do a Baseball America Hot Sheet show as well, but
- 20:54Speaker 2: make sure you check out Dan's work in the athletic
- 20:56Speaker 2: Give him a follow on Twitter.
- 20:58Speaker 4: Dan Dan, And if I would have gone to twins
- 21:01Speaker 4: Fest this year, would you have interviewed me?
- 21:04Speaker 1: Uh No, I would have said hello, though, I would
- 21:06Speaker 1: you know what I would ask you if you were
- 21:07Speaker 1: going to buy.
- 21:07Speaker 3: The team, if you were one of the guys that
- 21:09Speaker 3: was interested in my well.
- 21:11Speaker 4: Hell, I chose the BBW A A instead.
- 21:14Speaker 5: That's why short arms.
- 21:15Speaker 4: Dan.
- 21:16Speaker 2: Thank you for the time. Great to see you appreciate it.
- 21:18Speaker 3: Hey, thanks guys,