Latest / Loud & Lifted / Quick Lift: How to Navigate a Messy Career Pivot
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- 0:00Career pivots always sound better after they
- 0:02work out. You hear the story after someone left
- 0:04the job, started the business, changed industries,
- 0:07or finally went after the thing they've been
- 0:09thinking about for years. But then it sounds
- 0:12confident and intentional, like they knew exactly
- 0:14what they were doing the whole time. But when
- 0:17you're actually in the middle of it, it usually
- 0:19does not feel that clear. It feels messy. It
- 0:22feels uncertain. Sometimes it feels exciting,
- 0:24and sometimes it makes you question every decision
- 0:27you've ever made. I know because I have lived
- 0:30it and actually I'm still living it. When I left
- 0:33my CEO role, I knew I was ready for something
- 0:35different. I was excited about building my own
- 0:37business, speaking more, coaching women and helping
- 0:39companies in a different way. But that did not
- 0:42mean I had every piece figured out. I did not
- 0:44leave with a perfect five -year plan, a guaranteed
- 0:47pipeline of clients and total confidence every
- 0:49single day. There were days when I thought this
- 0:51is exactly what I'm supposed to be doing. And
- 0:54there were days when I thought maybe I should
- 0:55just go get another corporate job. I still think
- 0:58that sometimes. And this is the part we don't
- 1:01talk enough about. In my conversation with Trish
- 1:03Barber, author of Women Who Pivot, we talked
- 1:05about what a career pivot really looks like for
- 1:08women, whether the change is your choice or something
- 1:10that was forced on you. It's not one brave decision,
- 1:13and then suddenly everything falls into place.
- 1:16It's a process. You are learning, adjusting,
- 1:19talking to people, trying new things, and sometimes
- 1:22changing your mind along the way. So if you're
- 1:24thinking about making a change or you're already
- 1:27in the middle of one, here are a few things I
- 1:29want you to take away from this conversation.
- 1:32Let's get into it. The first is to pay attention
- 1:34to what is draining you. Now, not every bad week
- 1:38means you need to quit your job. We all have
- 1:40hard seasons. We have demanding projects or frustrating
- 1:43coworkers, difficult bosses, and times when work
- 1:46and life are both asking just way too much from
- 1:48us. But there is a difference between a rough
- 1:51season and a situation that no longer is right
- 1:54for you. Maybe you're no longer learning. Maybe
- 1:56your health is affected. Maybe you are missing
- 1:59too much of your life. Maybe you keep waiting
- 2:02for an opportunity that is clearly not coming.
- 2:05Or maybe you just know deep down that you are
- 2:07no longer supposed to be there. Usually we know
- 2:10before we're really ready to admit it. So here's
- 2:13something simple you can do. For the next two
- 2:14weeks, pay attention to your energy. At the end
- 2:17of the day, write down what energized you and
- 2:19what drained you. Don't make it complicated.
- 2:22Just look for patterns. Because sometimes the
- 2:24question is not, do I hate my job? The better
- 2:27question is, is this still the right fit for
- 2:29the person I'm becoming? The second thing is
- 2:32to separate your identity from your title. This
- 2:34one was hard for me. When you spend years building
- 2:37a career, earning promotions, and becoming known
- 2:39for a certain role, it's easy to start believing
- 2:42that title is the value. When I left a visible
- 2:46CEO role, I definitely had moments of wondering
- 2:49who I was without the company and without the
- 2:51title attached to my name. Would people still
- 2:53take my calls? Would they still see me in the
- 2:56same way? Was all of my credibility tied to that
- 2:59position? But your title is not the full story.
- 3:02Your experience is still yours. Your judgment
- 3:05is still yours. Relationships, leadership ability,
- 3:09instincts, and problem -solving skills do not
- 3:12disappear because the business card changes.
- 3:15So instead of focusing only on the title you
- 3:18had, think about what people actually rely on
- 3:21you for. What do people always ask your help
- 3:23with? What do you do well that may feel natural
- 3:26to you but is incredibly valuable to someone
- 3:29else? What compliments have you heard throughout
- 3:32your entire career? Maybe you make complicated
- 3:34things simple. Maybe you organize chaos or build
- 3:38trust quickly. Maybe you see the strategy before
- 3:41everyone else does. This is the value you carry
- 3:45into whatever comes next. The third takeaway
- 3:48is to stop treating your pivot like a final exam
- 3:51where you are supposed to know every answer before
- 3:53you begin. This is where I had to learn some
- 3:55patience, which is not exactly my favorite thing.
- 3:59I wanted to decide what I was doing and then
- 4:02immediately have the business model, the clients,
- 4:05the messaging, and the revenue all lined up.
- 4:08And guess what? That's not how it worked. There
- 4:11was trial and error. Some things gained traction.
- 4:14Some things did not. Some ideas sounded great,
- 4:17but they actually were not a fit. Other opportunities
- 4:20showed up that I had not expected or planned
- 4:22for. That does not mean the pivot is failing.
- 4:25It means you were learning. Trish talked about
- 4:27this like customer discovery. You have to understand
- 4:30what people need, what problems they are trying
- 4:33to solve, and where your experience can actually
- 4:36help. So get out of your own head and go talk
- 4:39to people. Talk to someone who works in the industry
- 4:42you're considering. Talk to someone who's already
- 4:44made a similar move. Or maybe someone who knows
- 4:47your strengths well. And do not just ask, do
- 4:50you think I should quit? Ask better questions.
- 4:53What problems are companies in this space trying
- 4:56to solve? What skills are most valuable? What
- 5:00do people misunderstand about this kind of work?
- 5:02And where do you see my experience transferring?
- 5:05You are not asking them to make the decision
- 5:08for you. You are gathering information so you
- 5:11can make a better decision for yourself. The
- 5:14fourth takeaway is to own your story before other
- 5:16people write it for you. This matters whether
- 5:19you chose to leave or whether the decision was
- 5:21made for you. If you were laid off, reorganized
- 5:25out of a role or pushed into a change you didn't
- 5:27want, you're allowed to feel hurt, frustrated
- 5:30or angry. This is real. But when you start talking
- 5:33about what comes next, You need a story that
- 5:36is confident and forward -looking. Trish made
- 5:39a great point in our conversation. Your pivot
- 5:41story should not sound wounded. This does not
- 5:44mean you have to pretend everything is perfect.
- 5:46It means you do not have to lead with the most
- 5:48painful part. Instead of saying, I lost my job,
- 5:51but I have no idea what I'm doing, you could
- 5:53say, after several years in marketing, I'm exploring
- 5:56opportunities where I can use my experience in
- 5:58community engagement, partnerships, and relationship
- 6:00building. Same person. Same situation, completely
- 6:04different energy. Your story should answer two
- 6:07things. What experiences are you bringing with
- 6:09you and what are you moving toward? And that
- 6:13story can evolve. Mine definitely has. But you
- 6:16need language that helps people understand where
- 6:18you're going and how they may be able to help.
- 6:21The last takeaway is one of my favorites from
- 6:23the episode. Build a personal advisory board.
- 6:25I usually call this your circle, but I love Trish's
- 6:28language because it makes it feel even more intentional.
- 6:31You should not try to navigate a major career
- 6:34change alone, and you do not need one perfect
- 6:36mentor who can give you all the answers. You
- 6:39need different people for different reasons.
- 6:41You need someone who will tell you the truth,
- 6:43even when it's what you don't want to hear. You
- 6:45need someone who reminds you what you are capable
- 6:48of, even when your confidence takes a hit. And
- 6:50you need someone who can connect you to people
- 6:52or opportunities you may not know about. You
- 6:56also need people with different perspectives,
- 6:58different ages, industries, and experiences.
- 7:00The person who gives you the best advice may
- 7:02not even have more experience than you. They
- 7:04may simply have different experience. So think
- 7:07about three people. Who will challenge you? Who
- 7:10will encourage you? Who will expand your thinking
- 7:12or your network? Then reach out. And be specific.
- 7:15Do not send the vague, I would love to pick your
- 7:18brain message. Tell them what you're considering
- 7:20and why you would value their perspective. People
- 7:22are often willing to help, but they need to know
- 7:24what you actually need. Here's the bottom line.
- 7:28You do not have to know exactly how your pivot
- 7:30will end before you begin. You need enough of
- 7:33clarity to take the next step. Pay attention
- 7:36to what's draining you. Get clear on the value
- 7:38you bring beyond your title. Talk to people.
- 7:42Own your story and build the circle that will
- 7:44help you move forward. A pivot does not have
- 7:47to be perfectly planned or every right move,
- 7:50but you cannot just leave something behind and
- 7:52hope the next thing figures itself out. You have
- 7:56to actively build what comes next. If you have
- 8:00not listened to Trisha's full episode, I strongly
- 8:02encourage you to do so. And until next time,
- 8:05stay loud and stay lifted.