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- 0:16Speaker 1: And away we go. Welcome in everybody in his time
- 0:19Speaker 1: for three Guys Before the Game. This is our Arizona
- 0:24Speaker 1: game recap, episode number five and eighty seven. The Fellers
- 0:29Speaker 1: are in the Dean Hoppy kerchival front and center. He'll
- 0:34Speaker 1: be providing Hoppies obvious observations. El Senatore Brad Howe here
- 0:41Speaker 1: spreads on stats coming up, recapping West Virginia and the Wildcats.
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- 1:42Speaker 1: say coming out of the Mountaineers and the Wildcats. We're
- 1:47Speaker 1: going to get into that and more textual healing as well. Yes,
- 1:53Speaker 1: Court is in session. Thanks very much for being with
- 1:56Speaker 1: us here. West Virginia goes out and plays its most
- 2:02Speaker 1: distant conference game in school history. Depending on how you
- 2:06Speaker 1: got there, so a little bit over two thousand miles,
- 2:09Speaker 1: it's eighteen hundred miles in the air. Was not a
- 2:12Speaker 1: bad trip at all. It took three hours and fifty
- 2:14Speaker 1: minutes to get out there. Fortunately, didn't have a whole
- 2:17Speaker 1: lot of headwind. Made it back in three hours and
- 2:20Speaker 1: twenty two minutes. How do I know it was twenty
- 2:23Speaker 1: two because I start my phone as soon as the
- 2:25Speaker 1: wheels go up on the plane. So it wasn't bad
- 2:27Speaker 1: at all. Three twenty two travel was about as good
- 2:29Speaker 1: as you could possibly have it. Scheduled to arrive back
- 2:32Speaker 1: at the facilities building the Pushcar Center at five thirty,
- 2:37Speaker 1: and we pulled in about five twenty six, twenty seven.
- 2:42Speaker 2: It's like a bowl game, just boom right on time.
- 2:44Speaker 1: So that's all good at pool game.
- 2:45Speaker 3: Jays went to nice Weather in Arizona for the Bowl.
- 2:48Speaker 3: Had some nice activities for the young men. Well, the
- 2:50Speaker 3: Rich Rodriguez Bowl was one of the favorites. Well, it
- 2:53Speaker 3: did feel it did feel bull esque because we stayed
- 2:57Speaker 3: at a motel out there, which which is a resort
- 3:02Speaker 3: where teams do stay for for bowl games. So it
- 3:04Speaker 3: had the bull staff was very nice to The hospitality
- 3:06Speaker 3: roommate had set up was excellent. Would use that each night.
- 3:09Speaker 2: That was great.
- 3:09Speaker 1: It was, it was, It was very nice.
- 3:11Speaker 3: It was also parent gifts as you walked away, a
- 3:13Speaker 3: couple of nice watch nice watch out.
- 3:16Speaker 1: The parents weekend on campus there at Arizona, So there
- 3:20Speaker 1: were a lot of parents, right, that's what it does.
- 3:24Speaker 1: It attracts parents, is what it does. And one parents
- 3:29Speaker 1: and yeah, so one observation. One observation, and with all
- 3:33Speaker 1: due respect to parents out there that might go to
- 3:36Speaker 1: parents' weekends at other schools. I would never wear a
- 3:41Speaker 1: school name dad T shirt. You wouldn't like see a
- 3:44Speaker 1: lot of Arizona the logo dad T shirts. Eh, probably not.
- 3:51Speaker 4: Some of that might be the daughter or son gets
- 3:53Speaker 4: it for the dead and they feel compelled to wear
- 3:56Speaker 4: it all whatever.
- 3:57Speaker 1: They just you just say thank you, but you don't
- 3:59Speaker 1: wear it.
- 4:00Speaker 3: That's your choice, that's not their choice. You don't tell
- 4:02Speaker 3: people what they can wear.
- 4:03Speaker 1: It's like when you dress your kids up when they're
- 4:04Speaker 1: three and they don't know exactly what they're wearing it,
- 4:06Speaker 1: but you kind of chuckle over.
- 4:07Speaker 2: It still had a lot of empty seats there.
- 4:10Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah they do.
- 4:12Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not the toughest all due respect, that's not
- 4:15Speaker 4: the toughest environment.
- 4:17Speaker 1: No, it's not the toughest environment. Go in there. You
- 4:20Speaker 1: go in there, and you get your w and you
- 4:22Speaker 1: move on. Thirty one to twenty six is the final score,
- 4:25Speaker 1: will break down the numbers. It was so so badly
- 4:29Speaker 1: needed because if you lose that game, not only are
- 4:33Speaker 1: you three and five, you're three and five with an asterisk,
- 4:36Speaker 1: which is you have a bye week, and it would
- 4:40Speaker 1: be a fourteen day fester that would probably continue to
- 4:45Speaker 1: bubble and grow and probably have some seepage. I mean
- 4:47Speaker 1: that kind of a just a banker fester, you know, ulcer,
- 4:51Speaker 1: that kind of thing. A lot of interesting things on
- 4:54Speaker 1: the trip. I'll get into those things a little bit
- 4:56Speaker 1: later as well.
- 4:57Speaker 3: Yeah, but instead it's a win on your furthest road
- 4:59Speaker 3: trip is as you just mentioned, with a backup quarterback
- 5:02Speaker 3: and a backup left tackle and a backup cornerback, and
- 5:04Speaker 3: you walked in and got the win. You had to
- 5:06Speaker 3: hold off Arizona at the end, you got it done.
- 5:09Speaker 3: Really strong offensive performances. We'll get in some numbers. Super
- 5:12Speaker 3: impressed with how they handled that with both Johnny Williams
- 5:15Speaker 3: and Nico the two new guys in the lineup. Just
- 5:17Speaker 3: absolutely outstanding.
- 5:18Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you go back to our preview that
- 5:20Speaker 1: we dropped on Thursday, just go through the tape, you'll
- 5:23Speaker 1: see where I predict that Jaylen Anderson would catch the
- 5:28Speaker 1: game deciding pass right as you did.
- 5:31Speaker 2: Yeah, it might have been all there when you said, dude.
- 5:33Speaker 1: If there was one person who would not have put
- 5:36Speaker 1: on the possible list of thirty people that would touch
- 5:40Speaker 1: the ball, it would be Jaylen Anderson.
- 5:42Speaker 3: Really remarkable. I'll just give you in early spreads on
- 5:44Speaker 3: stats number the numbers one that would be receptions on
- 5:47Speaker 3: the season by Jayleen Anderson. And it came in as
- 5:50Speaker 3: big a moment as you can get. I mean, talk
- 5:53Speaker 3: talk about a pinch hitter coming in. You've been sitting
- 5:55Speaker 3: around for three and a half hours watching the game.
- 5:58Speaker 3: I know, you play some special team stuff. She hadn't
- 6:00Speaker 3: been on an offensive play yet. And you come in
- 6:02Speaker 3: and by the way, oh no, you're not just in.
- 6:04Speaker 3: You're not just a decoy. You're not just gonna throw
- 6:05Speaker 3: a block, go hit somebody. You got to catch the
- 6:07Speaker 3: football and then you got to get upfield because if
- 6:09Speaker 3: you get that, win the game. If you don't, and
- 6:11Speaker 3: you got to throw that defense back out there, look
- 6:13Speaker 3: out having a little Bama in there, that ball kind
- 6:16Speaker 3: of popped up. The man popped it up. But he's
- 6:18Speaker 3: got it and took off, and that's great for that kid.
- 6:21Speaker 3: He's had some high profile mistakes over the last couple
- 6:24Speaker 3: of seasons that have not gone his direction. That was
- 6:26Speaker 3: pretty cool to see him make a big, massive play
- 6:28Speaker 3: at that to stay the course, get upfield and seal
- 6:31Speaker 3: that game off.
- 6:32Speaker 4: The Jalen Anderson catch and run first down at that
- 6:36Speaker 4: point was more surprising than the Layton Bechtel touchdown.
- 6:40Speaker 1: Right there. I mean, a big play too well. But
- 6:43Speaker 1: but let's that's just another day in the office for Layton.
- 6:46Speaker 1: I mean, he does it in Charlotte, he does it
- 6:48Speaker 1: in two sons.
- 6:49Speaker 2: That's what he does. You mean, Layton Bechdel is a
- 6:51Speaker 2: touchdown maker.
- 6:51Speaker 1: Touchdown Baker and he and uh he ended up just
- 6:55Speaker 1: short in the bowl game, right, he just he ended
- 6:57Speaker 1: up just showed, so good for him. He's a really
- 6:59Speaker 1: uh he's a really good kid, really good kid. He's
- 7:02Speaker 1: a part of the fifth quarter program. So I've got
- 7:04Speaker 1: to chat with him a little bit and uh, really
- 7:06Speaker 1: super happy, uh for him.
- 7:08Speaker 3: A great running back vision. Yeah, rolled up there, saw
- 7:11Speaker 3: the whole left pop to the outside.
- 7:13Speaker 1: Lacrosse play. Lacrosse players are bad boys. I mean they're
- 7:16Speaker 1: tough dudes.
- 7:16Speaker 3: I'll also understand how to get around guys.
- 7:18Speaker 2: Yeah, and who we were trying.
- 7:20Speaker 4: I don't think we could pick it out. Maybe you could,
- 7:23Speaker 4: You guys could who made that block on the left side,
- 7:25Speaker 4: because somebody made a heck of a block on the
- 7:28Speaker 4: left side. Without that block, you might not get it.
- 7:30Speaker 3: You're right, because sometimes on those fakes, you it's just
- 7:33Speaker 3: a little tight. Sometimes it just like got they have
- 7:36Speaker 3: no idea, right, the other team is totally acted, has
- 7:39Speaker 3: no idea. The end for Arizona there actually contained the edge.
- 7:43Speaker 3: I mean he was on the edge, standing up looking
- 7:46Speaker 3: in the backfield like he wasn't rushing he didn't fall down.
- 7:49Speaker 3: He was ready for something like that, And there was
- 7:51Speaker 3: a great block on that left edge there of the
- 7:54Speaker 3: offensive line that that cleared that space. While we're here,
- 7:57Speaker 3: we might not have big spreads on stats, I'm giving
- 7:59Speaker 3: them all to you right now. I just found this
- 8:01Speaker 3: interesting thanks to Game on Paper website. Excuse me, Game
- 8:06Speaker 3: on Paper. The biggest play of the game from an
- 8:09Speaker 3: increased win percentage perspective was that touchdown off the fake
- 8:14Speaker 3: pump by Bechdel added almost fourteen percent to your win
- 8:17Speaker 3: expected win percentage at that point. So usually know that, right,
- 8:21Speaker 3: you get weird things like that that happen in your game.
- 8:23Speaker 3: You throw a pick six, it's hard to win. You
- 8:25Speaker 3: get a fake field goal or punt that converts into points,
- 8:29Speaker 3: it's hard to lose that game. That one was the
- 8:31Speaker 3: biggest play in the game from a win perspective.
- 8:33Speaker 1: Yeah, I was wondering. I was wondering what that did,
- 8:36Speaker 1: because you know, when you were just as you said,
- 8:37Speaker 1: those certain stats pop you up with your chance to
- 8:39Speaker 1: win all right. Time. Now for hoppies obvious observations, h
- 8:44Speaker 1: oh oh, what do you have?
- 8:47Speaker 4: Well, some of them we've already touched on. But number
- 8:50Speaker 4: one was the again obvious Nico Markhil. I mean Markuel
- 8:54Speaker 4: was a plus, he was exceptional. I mean, we'll have
- 8:56Speaker 4: more spreads on stats. But Nico was eighteen of twenty touchdowns,
- 9:02Speaker 4: very efficient, no picks, made plays. The misses were most
- 9:08Speaker 4: of his misses were those long you know, a couple
- 9:10Speaker 4: of long passes early. So I mean he was extremely efficient.
- 9:13Speaker 4: So obvious observation Nico was just he excelled in that
- 9:17Speaker 4: ball game. Second is we talked about this a lot
- 9:20Speaker 4: of the last couple of games, Tony and our coverage,
- 9:21Speaker 4: and that is needing guys to make plays. Didn't expect
- 9:25Speaker 4: Nico to do everything, but he really excelled. But who
- 9:28Speaker 4: else was going to step up and make plays? Well?
- 9:30Speaker 4: How about Honey Howe he made a great catch on
- 9:32Speaker 4: a rocket pass in the end zone. How about Jeheim
- 9:36Speaker 4: White on the fifty five yard run. We talked about
- 9:38Speaker 4: Jalen Anderson, talked about Leyton Bechtel. Also that that forced
- 9:42Speaker 4: fumble which turned into seven points coming the other way.
- 9:44Speaker 2: Was that kk that caused that funnel?
- 9:46Speaker 1: Kurnu caused the fumble and Grant Garnet Hollis.
- 9:50Speaker 4: Yeah, So there were just a lot of plays like
- 9:52Speaker 4: that guys making plays. The long field goal by Hayes
- 9:56Speaker 4: forty five yards and also the third point would be
- 9:59Speaker 4: got some breaks. Those things tend to even themselves out.
- 10:03Speaker 4: We've seen a lot of times this season where you
- 10:05Speaker 4: just didn't get a break. It wasn't really your faulty,
- 10:07Speaker 4: the team doing something great. Is the ball bounced a
- 10:09Speaker 4: weird way, You got some bounces, you got some timely
- 10:12Speaker 4: penalties against the other team, you got a couple breaks,
- 10:16Speaker 4: and those things combined to get your win.
- 10:19Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about.
- 10:21Speaker 3: Those breaks for a second.
- 10:23Speaker 1: Just spreads on stuff.
- 10:24Speaker 3: No, but you need breaks to win games, right And
- 10:27Speaker 3: as you know, guys, you know my stance. You don't apologize,
- 10:31Speaker 3: you don't back off any you don't qualify when you win,
- 10:35Speaker 3: go with it.
- 10:36Speaker 2: I was gonna say if.
- 10:37Speaker 3: Everybody, I mean, I don't care what you say. Is
- 10:41Speaker 3: to take the win, you move on. So there's there's
- 10:43Speaker 3: my stance on the win. But you know what you need.
- 10:45Speaker 3: You need two things. Hop you just said when you
- 10:47Speaker 3: guys make a place, it's just as simple as that.
- 10:49Speaker 3: Multiple guys have to make plays. Western you did you
- 10:51Speaker 3: need some breaks? How about these breaks? Let's go back
- 10:54Speaker 3: and play this true ready, Tony, I'm ready. There's three
- 10:57Speaker 3: big ones that stood out to me. One CJ converts
- 11:01Speaker 3: on that third down that looked like he was stopped
- 11:04Speaker 3: behind the line of scrimmage. Very next play, what happens
- 11:08Speaker 3: Jeem White fifty five yard sets up a touchdown score.
- 11:11Speaker 3: There was the third down option pitch yeah, that in
- 11:15Speaker 3: a non Mountaineer fashion, not only didn't turn into a
- 11:20Speaker 3: fumble au Cole Taylor might go out for the men's
- 11:22Speaker 3: soccer team. He booted that thing straight out of bounds,
- 11:24Speaker 3: out of those potential but not only was it not
- 11:27Speaker 3: a fumble, not only was it kicked out of bounds
- 11:29Speaker 3: to save the fumble, but then all of a sudden,
- 11:31Speaker 3: those officials who did a tremendous job on that playoff,
- 11:33Speaker 3: they were right on top of it. As you would
- 11:35Speaker 3: expect from the officiating crew, they knew exactly what they
- 11:37Speaker 3: were doing. Called it an incomplete pass on a forward pitch,
- 11:41Speaker 3: absolutely right.
- 11:42Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 11:42Speaker 3: And then what happens turns into a fourth down conversion
- 11:46Speaker 3: on the very next play three plays later, CJ walks
- 11:50Speaker 3: into the end zone for a touchdown. Talk about a
- 11:52Speaker 3: massive change, because that was the one that came on
- 11:55Speaker 3: the you pinned them deep. Then they shanked the punt
- 11:58Speaker 3: you were taking over in theirs, and it was a
- 12:00Speaker 3: golden opportunity to get points. And you'll almost let that
- 12:03Speaker 3: opportunity slip by, which would have been a perfect opportunity.
- 12:07Speaker 3: And yet those that break happens to you and you
- 12:10Speaker 3: get it. Fourth down conversion CJ scores a touchdown. That's
- 12:12Speaker 3: break number two. How about the pass on third and
- 12:15Speaker 3: nine that goes directly through the defender's hands hop, Yes,
- 12:22Speaker 3: I mean that the defender had his hands in perfect shape.
- 12:25Speaker 3: The ball goes through his hands, hits a couple fingers,
- 12:27Speaker 3: and not only is it not picked off, howe he
- 12:30Speaker 3: keeps his concentration makes the catch for a nineteen yard
- 12:33Speaker 3: first down.
- 12:34Speaker 2: Excellent.
- 12:34Speaker 3: Right very next play Treylon Ray fifty four yard touchdown.
- 12:39Speaker 3: So you talk about three gigantic moments in that game
- 12:42Speaker 3: that preceded the big play. I'm not talking about the
- 12:44Speaker 3: big play. I'm talking about the plays that preceded the
- 12:47Speaker 3: big play that win in your favor, that you were
- 12:50Speaker 3: due for. Some of those you were due for, some
- 12:52Speaker 3: breaks you got him in that game.
- 12:54Speaker 1: No, those are all really good points because if you
- 12:56Speaker 1: don't bring those back up right now, you totally forget
- 12:59Speaker 1: about totally forget but to your point, that play that
- 13:02Speaker 1: was ruled as a forward incomplete pass.
- 13:06Speaker 2: That's huge.
- 13:06Speaker 1: And you know, and I personally and we some of
- 13:09Speaker 1: you do, but we all kind of grid our teeth
- 13:13Speaker 1: about replay all the time. But in that particular case
- 13:16Speaker 1: that like fifteen years ago, like no one blinks an
- 13:20Speaker 1: eye on that. I don't even think. Just good balls
- 13:22Speaker 1: got kicked out of bounds. That's where to see you later.
- 13:24Speaker 2: Well, that was an excellent you used to replay right there.
- 13:26Speaker 3: Perfect, just replay officials right on top of it, did
- 13:28Speaker 3: a very good job.
- 13:29Speaker 4: And also in that I mean, you're right, Brad, because
- 13:32Speaker 4: if that had gone out of bounds, you would have
- 13:33Speaker 4: had a fourth and long and you would have punted.
- 13:36Speaker 2: But instead you convert. By the way, you were four
- 13:39Speaker 2: to four on fourth down.
- 13:41Speaker 3: And punted, and again because of the situation that preceded
- 13:45Speaker 3: you getting the ball back, that was such a golden opportunity. Yeah,
- 13:48Speaker 3: that's one of those moments in a game that you
- 13:51Speaker 3: look back macro level and would have gone, man, he
- 13:54Speaker 3: just really left that opportunity right.
- 13:56Speaker 1: Perfect, perfect, Okay, I'm doing right now on the phone.
- 14:01Speaker 1: I'm watching don't watch it again. No, no, I'm watching
- 14:04Speaker 1: the fake field goal. Fifty six set the block.
- 14:08Speaker 3: It was a good one, right, I mean you can
- 14:10Speaker 3: see the defense.
- 14:11Speaker 1: Standing there, the left side, left side guard pulled fifty six.
- 14:15Speaker 1: Let me look it up. Fifty six. Do you know
- 14:17Speaker 1: who it is? No, off top, look it up. I'm
- 14:19Speaker 1: sure he's sure. He's a fine young fella. Fifty six
- 14:22Speaker 1: for the Mountaineers. Give me, give me a goldstone, give
- 14:24Speaker 1: them a big could be is it Sullivan? Weaven take
- 14:27Speaker 1: a look at it. Game three guys, before the game
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- 15:51Speaker 3: It's the last first reported here. Sully weaveman.
- 15:54Speaker 1: Give him a ton, give us a great.
- 15:56Speaker 3: Block he pulls, he says, and eleven is right there
- 16:00Speaker 3: on a fake. I mean, he did exactly what he's
- 16:02Speaker 3: supposed to do in that situation.
- 16:04Speaker 1: Yeah, good job. So that was a that was a big,
- 16:07Speaker 1: big one.
- 16:07Speaker 2: All right.
- 16:09Speaker 1: We'll get into a bunch of different stuff. We'll get
- 16:11Speaker 1: into spreads on stats right now. We'll break this thing down,
- 16:13Speaker 1: but a bunch of different directions to go. Also, the
- 16:17Speaker 1: Mountaineer basketball team, we'll give it a quick touch on this.
- 16:19Speaker 1: They played their double secret closed scrimmage game at the
- 16:23Speaker 1: Raleigh County Armory.
- 16:25Speaker 2: Which I'm writing about. You have no idea what happened.
- 16:29Speaker 1: May have asked a few questions to some people.
- 16:30Speaker 2: Oh, you're not really supposed to talk about that.
- 16:32Speaker 1: We're there. Yeah, and this.
- 16:33Speaker 2: Is you're to get in trouble for that? Still is
- 16:36Speaker 2: that the one thing? Is that the one rule you
- 16:38Speaker 2: can get in trouble for now?
- 16:41Speaker 1: No, I've never heard anyone centered for it. But what
- 16:46Speaker 1: I thought, Roleig County Armory is kind of a big
- 16:48Speaker 1: expanse of space, you know, a lot of like a
- 16:51Speaker 1: lot of entry points.
- 16:53Speaker 2: Oh, you're saying security was at a minimum.
- 16:55Speaker 1: No, And so I said, I was thinking, I go, like,
- 16:57Speaker 1: I bet you there was a you know, good hand.
- 16:59Speaker 1: So I asked someone that was there, I said, how
- 17:01Speaker 1: many how many people like just kind of found their
- 17:03Speaker 1: way and they said zero. Really, they said, like it
- 17:07Speaker 1: was no one that wasn't supposed to be there, wasn't there.
- 17:11Speaker 1: I mean it was there. It was just like it
- 17:13Speaker 1: was tight. So that was tight. Quick overview. It was
- 17:18Speaker 1: a good general terms here, I'm thinking in general terms.
- 17:21Speaker 1: It was a good day for the Mountaineers. Took on
- 17:24Speaker 1: the demon Deacons of wake Forest. They're predicted to finish
- 17:28Speaker 1: three to four in the UH in the Atlantic Coast Conference.
- 17:31Speaker 2: NBA guy on the team, Yeah, they do.
- 17:33Speaker 1: And uh, it was a good It was a good
- 17:35Speaker 1: effort by the Mountaineers. And the two coaches agreed not
- 17:39Speaker 1: to put highlights out or I don't know about highlights,
- 17:42Speaker 1: but no box score.
- 17:43Speaker 3: No score, no putt, don't publicize it the game, just
- 17:47Speaker 3: say things went well. Darren Steve Forbes's friends to Iowa
- 17:50Speaker 3: guys there said known each other for a long time.
- 17:51Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's that, and uh, basketball now is a
- 17:57Speaker 1: week from Monday.
- 17:58Speaker 4: That sounds silly to me. Excuse me, just sounds silly.
- 18:02Speaker 4: I mean, but what that, Oh, it's double secret probation.
- 18:05Speaker 4: Don't say anything to anyone, and don't give.
- 18:07Speaker 2: A box score.
- 18:09Speaker 1: Yeah. Why because the NCAA is trying to cling to
- 18:13Speaker 1: its existence. I mean, they're hanging on to be some
- 18:16Speaker 1: form of powerful entity and this is the last Bashard
- 18:20Speaker 1: to hope to hold back the box score on scrimmage games.
- 18:25Speaker 3: Yeah, now, some of it from from the coaching agreeing perspective.
- 18:28Speaker 3: It's one of those where you want to get some
- 18:30Speaker 3: work in and some things you're trying to work on,
- 18:32Speaker 3: and sometimes you're not necessarily trying to win the game.
- 18:34Speaker 3: So I get where those coaches say that, and listen
- 18:37Speaker 3: today's day and age. The loser of that, the loser
- 18:40Speaker 3: of that exhibition scrimmage is going to get some calls
- 18:42Speaker 3: for his job. You want to just go in and
- 18:48Speaker 3: get some practice, get some work in, and you don't.
- 18:49Speaker 2: Have to make a big deal. Speaking of which, Brent
- 18:54Speaker 2: Brennan not going to have a good week.
- 18:57Speaker 1: Yeah, probably not.
- 18:58Speaker 2: Sorry, but okay, we got our own stuff.
- 19:00Speaker 1: Probably not. You know another thing I don't care one
- 19:04Speaker 1: other thing about, and we'll get into the spreads on stats.
- 19:07Speaker 1: But one other thing about those basketball scrimmages where you
- 19:10Speaker 1: can't put a total amount of credibility into them is
- 19:15Speaker 1: because depending on how the coaches want to do it.
- 19:18Speaker 1: In this particular one, you couldn't file out. You couldn't
- 19:24Speaker 1: you could not file out, and so there were players
- 19:27Speaker 1: I think there was a player on each team that
- 19:30Speaker 1: may have had double figures in fouls, NBA sum NBA
- 19:35Speaker 1: Summer League. Hey, hey, that's your ten.
- 19:37Speaker 3: Think about here's what you're trying to do. You're there
- 19:41Speaker 3: to get work, right, Okay, okay, right, So if you
- 19:43Speaker 3: if you get a guy with two thousand the first
- 19:45Speaker 3: and you have to sit him, what good to that
- 19:46Speaker 3: do you?
- 19:47Speaker 2: In the scrimmage?
- 19:48Speaker 3: That's non publicized.
- 19:49Speaker 1: So, and they'll do situational stuff. They'll go like, hey,
- 19:51Speaker 1: we want to look at zone. We're going to inbound
- 19:53Speaker 1: the ball at mid court. Let's play you know, let's
- 19:56Speaker 1: play five possessions. You play zone and what they do? Okay, yeah,
- 19:59Speaker 1: the I know that. Then they shown them and then
- 20:01Speaker 1: you go, okay, that's done. Now let's go up and down. Okay,
- 20:04Speaker 1: all right, yeah, let's do it. Let's do it.
- 20:06Speaker 2: Let's do it.
- 20:07Speaker 4: We'll just go right to the numbers.
- 20:10Speaker 1: Let's jump into the.
- 20:12Speaker 2: Analytics that's open to the public.
- 20:15Speaker 1: What this portion is?
- 20:18Speaker 2: Is there another part that's not.
- 20:25Speaker 1: Spreads on stats is brought to us by the great
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- 21:02Speaker 1: which means run your business instead of dealing with all
- 21:05Speaker 1: the other stuff. It's kindly CPA group. Did the final
- 21:11Speaker 1: analytics of this match up between the Mountaineers and the
- 21:14Speaker 1: Wildcats resemble the game or were there some surprises as
- 21:18Speaker 1: you dug.
- 21:19Speaker 3: In, uh No, I thought it. I thought it kind
- 21:23Speaker 3: of held it. It shows I won't go through all
- 21:26Speaker 3: of those right now, but it shows that it was
- 21:27Speaker 3: a pretty even game by the end, which it was
- 21:31Speaker 3: West Virginia win. Probability wise, was really never in too
- 21:35Speaker 3: much danger of losing that game, so you had real,
- 21:37Speaker 3: really good game control. Hop College Football Playoff likes to
- 21:40Speaker 3: use that game control. You had a lot of game
- 21:42Speaker 3: control in this game. But a lot of the individual
- 21:45Speaker 3: advanced analytics were pretty similar, but there were some that
- 21:48Speaker 3: really jumped out to me and let's let's dive in,
- 21:51Speaker 3: and there might not be a lot of continuity and
- 21:53Speaker 3: how I present these So I'm just gonna kind of
- 21:55Speaker 3: throw a bunch of things at you. But guys, I
- 21:57Speaker 3: think we have to start with Nico's performance here, because Tony,
- 22:00Speaker 3: you go back to Thursday's preview and we were asking
- 22:04Speaker 3: the question, you were getting Nico in a position which
- 22:07Speaker 3: he's been before. He has started a game at West Virginia,
- 22:09Speaker 3: He's come in in long relief. How would it look
- 22:13Speaker 3: in the previous games? We did the numbers hoppy the
- 22:16Speaker 3: defense in Nico's previous starts or long relief appearances, the
- 22:19Speaker 3: defense had only given up twelve points six points per game.
- 22:23Speaker 3: So you weren't asking Nico to go win you the
- 22:26Speaker 3: game or go be the main offensive threat to win
- 22:28Speaker 3: you the game. You were saying, just don't hurt us,
- 22:31Speaker 3: let the defense win it. We're going to run the football,
- 22:33Speaker 3: and you'd average one hundred and sixty three yards on
- 22:36Speaker 3: the ground in those games. This was a different deal.
- 22:39Speaker 3: One of the things we talked about on Thursday and
- 22:41Speaker 3: in our coverage hop the whole time was yards per attempt.
- 22:44Speaker 3: You were going to have to get the ball down
- 22:46Speaker 3: the field. Nico had only averaged four point five yards
- 22:50Speaker 3: per attempt coming in. That was last in the Big
- 22:53Speaker 3: twelve among quarterbacks that had ten attempts. So when he
- 22:57Speaker 3: had been in, you had not asked and or had
- 22:59Speaker 3: success pushing it down the field. Well, that really changed.
- 23:03Speaker 3: It was helped by Trailon Ray the big bass play,
- 23:07Speaker 3: but that ended up at nine yards per attempt, guys,
- 23:10Speaker 3: double what he had been throwing it at. You had
- 23:12Speaker 3: some other ones. You had the one to Hudson Clement
- 23:14Speaker 3: nineteen yards down the field that we talked about in
- 23:16Speaker 3: the first half. That was seven and a half yards
- 23:18Speaker 3: per attempt. So it had already jumped up and that's
- 23:21Speaker 3: a respectable number. That's right in the range where you
- 23:24Speaker 3: can manage it. It had started to creep back and
- 23:27Speaker 3: it got all the way down to six yards per
- 23:29Speaker 3: attempt up as Arizona was making his comeback in Westervirginia
- 23:32Speaker 3: had slowed a little bit offensively. Then the nineteen yard pass,
- 23:35Speaker 3: then the big play to Trailon Ray, that thing pops
- 23:37Speaker 3: up to nine. So a lot of credit on a
- 23:40Speaker 3: couple fronts to Nico in particular for pushing the ball
- 23:43Speaker 3: down the field. Managing the game extremely well, didn't make
- 23:47Speaker 3: any bad throws. The one that again went through the
- 23:49Speaker 3: defender's hands was really the only one that was in
- 23:52Speaker 3: danger there. Other than that, he made some excellent decisions,
- 23:55Speaker 3: tucked some instead of forcing it and trying to make
- 23:58Speaker 3: a play. So you can't say enough about the job
- 24:00Speaker 3: Nico did. We talked going into that game also about
- 24:03Speaker 3: completion percentage. You had to get more efficient as well.
- 24:07Speaker 3: Nico came in averaging just fifty three percent completion percentage
- 24:10Speaker 3: in his career, just a fifty three percent passer. Guys
- 24:13Speaker 3: went for eighty two last night. Went from a fifty
- 24:16Speaker 3: three percent career passer to eighty two, just incredible. And
- 24:20Speaker 3: then credit Neil Brown the offensive staff for the way
- 24:22Speaker 3: they called that game, especially early, getting him some passes
- 24:26Speaker 3: to get him comfortable and greased up, and then expanding
- 24:29Speaker 3: it out right, adding some motion, adding some new wrinkles
- 24:32Speaker 3: and looks. So I just I can't say enough about
- 24:35Speaker 3: the job Nico did coming in in that spot, and
- 24:38Speaker 3: we said, Tony, we said, on Thursday, having that week
- 24:40Speaker 3: to prepare, having the week to rep the plays that
- 24:43Speaker 3: you were going to run, And then Nico talked it
- 24:44Speaker 3: in postgame one hundred and so reps he estimated and
- 24:48Speaker 3: it showed. I thought he was completely in command. And
- 24:50Speaker 3: then there was one other thing that a little nuanced
- 24:53Speaker 3: that was impressive for a guy that hasn't played a
- 24:55Speaker 3: lot of snaps. There were a couple different times on
- 24:59Speaker 3: screen pas. One was on a screen, just the old
- 25:02Speaker 3: traditional screen, where he really just held it and kept
- 25:04Speaker 3: holding it, let the defense come in, let him come in,
- 25:07Speaker 3: and then just dropped it over to Cole Taylor, which
- 25:09Speaker 3: created that space that he needed. There was another one
- 25:12Speaker 3: where he rolled out and he was looking for the
- 25:14Speaker 3: receiver and he waited a couple extra beats, let the
- 25:18Speaker 3: defender get to him. That cleared the space, dump that off.
- 25:21Speaker 3: So I thought his patience for a guy that hasn't
- 25:23Speaker 3: taken a ton of snaps was really good. He looked
- 25:26Speaker 3: like a veteran starting quarterback.
- 25:27Speaker 2: He really did.
- 25:29Speaker 1: I had the feeling going in the game that he
- 25:31Speaker 1: wouldn't be in the middle of his performance. I thought
- 25:35Speaker 1: he was either going to be really good or the
- 25:37Speaker 1: moment going back to Arizona and all of that, you
- 25:41Speaker 1: know that could sometimes that puts too much of a light.
- 25:43Speaker 1: He was exactly what you would hope for and Neil
- 25:46Speaker 1: Brown said this, the kid's a winner. Like in everything
- 25:49Speaker 1: that he's done, he finds ways to win. And he
- 25:51Speaker 1: went out there and he won the game by not
- 25:54Speaker 1: making mistakes. And as you said, that completion percentage is
- 25:58Speaker 1: off the chart at eighty two percent, So kudos to him.
- 26:01Speaker 1: And you know, he also had another touchdown that got
- 26:05Speaker 1: dropped in the first half. He dropped that ball perfect
- 26:07Speaker 1: to Trailing Ray down the Arizona sideline early in the game.
- 26:10Speaker 1: Do you remember that very early?
- 26:12Speaker 2: It was it was a long, a tad long.
- 26:15Speaker 3: It was rated, it was there. It was rated as
- 26:17Speaker 3: a big time throw by Pro Football Focus. But that's
- 26:20Speaker 3: that's a tough one. I mean, it did hit trailing
- 26:22Speaker 3: he was extended with the one hand, but it was
- 26:24Speaker 3: it was a great throw, just maybe just six inches
- 26:27Speaker 3: too far. But Pro Football Focus agrees with you. They
- 26:29Speaker 3: gave it a big time.
- 26:30Speaker 1: It was there anyway, regardless you got one, Trailing Ray
- 26:33Speaker 1: was able to get one later in the game and
- 26:35Speaker 1: it was it was significant. Yeah, so really really happen.
- 26:39Speaker 3: All right, Let's let's continue on to some other things
- 26:41Speaker 3: we talked about in terms of Nico in the pregame.
- 26:43Speaker 3: We also mentioned when he's in the game, play action
- 26:47Speaker 3: and RPO percentage, usage percentage of those two schematics go up,
- 26:52Speaker 3: and you saw that last night again. You saw him
- 26:54Speaker 3: really handle that RPO and then make the past the
- 26:57Speaker 3: play action on one of the big deep balls came
- 26:59Speaker 3: off an old will like fake the handoff, then turn
- 27:01Speaker 3: come up and throw it deep. And if you look
- 27:03Speaker 3: at West Virginia's analytics that that happens when he's in
- 27:06Speaker 3: the game, those shoot up by a significant percentage in
- 27:09Speaker 3: terms of usage. We also talked in pregame the short
- 27:12Speaker 3: middle was going to be the spot where West Virginia
- 27:14Speaker 3: could attack. That was both via the defense of Arizona
- 27:17Speaker 3: and what you do off some of those RPOs in
- 27:19Speaker 3: play action. Short middle eight of nine sixty eight yards
- 27:25Speaker 3: on passes zero to ten yards in the middle of
- 27:27Speaker 3: the field.
- 27:28Speaker 1: Put it where it needed to be.
- 27:29Speaker 3: Eight of nine sixty eight. You'll take that middle of
- 27:32Speaker 3: the field in general. Fifteen of seventeen for one thirty
- 27:35Speaker 3: five just cooked them right down the middle of the
- 27:37Speaker 3: field where they were missing some linebackers, they were missing
- 27:40Speaker 3: some safety, so you thought that was an area you
- 27:42Speaker 3: could attack. They did and were productive with it. Fifteen
- 27:46Speaker 3: of seventeen one to thirty five. Guys, you'll take that
- 27:48Speaker 3: all day long. We talked on sports Line on Friday night,
- 27:52Speaker 3: and then in our coverage I put the number out
- 27:54Speaker 3: there and over under of two hundred and fifty combined
- 27:56Speaker 3: yards for Nico and thought he might need to get
- 27:59Speaker 3: to two fifty for West Virginia to win the game.
- 28:02Speaker 3: Two forty three is that what the number finished up.
- 28:05Speaker 1: He had thirty nine run yards and one ninety eight
- 28:08Speaker 1: passing yards. That's two thirty seven.
- 28:09Speaker 2: So there you go.
- 28:10Speaker 3: So he came through in a way that you were
- 28:13Speaker 3: going to have to have him make plays to win
- 28:15Speaker 3: you the game, not just manage it. We know the
- 28:17Speaker 3: defense is struggled. This wasn't going to be a game
- 28:19Speaker 3: where you could just say to the defense, go help
- 28:21Speaker 3: the young quarterback. You got to handle it. You were
- 28:23Speaker 3: going to say to this one for the first time
- 28:25Speaker 3: in Nico's career, we need you to go make plays.
- 28:28Speaker 3: And man, he came through. He was really good. So
- 28:30Speaker 3: there's the Nico numbers. Let's talk big plays for a second.
- 28:33Speaker 3: Hop We've said for a while this offense was so
- 28:36Speaker 3: good last year at the end of the year because
- 28:38Speaker 3: they would just big play you to death through the air.
- 28:41Speaker 3: On the ground, teams have adapted to West Virginia this
- 28:43Speaker 3: year and had held him more in check. Not last night.
- 28:47Speaker 3: Jeheim White that big run on the jet sweep, new play, Tony,
- 28:51Speaker 3: not a new play in terms of jet sweep. I
- 28:53Speaker 3: don't know that we've seen Jeem White run that this year.
- 28:55Speaker 3: That was nice. Get him the ball, get him at
- 28:57Speaker 3: full speed on an edge where he can turn, goes
- 29:00Speaker 3: for fifty five yards. That's the first rush play of
- 29:03Speaker 3: over fifty yards for West Virginia this year. Very good
- 29:06Speaker 3: Treylon Ray on the big fifty four yard pass play.
- 29:09Speaker 3: Just the second fifty yard pass player more this year
- 29:12Speaker 3: for West Virginia. Those both came in the same day,
- 29:14Speaker 3: so that was massive. We talked about the number one
- 29:17Speaker 3: the receptions Jalen Anderson as on the year after catching
- 29:21Speaker 3: the big one his first one of the year. Guys,
- 29:23Speaker 3: how about that? Also back to play calling, five receptions
- 29:27Speaker 3: by running backs in this game. Didn't have time to
- 29:29Speaker 3: go back and check that. That's got to be a
- 29:31Speaker 3: season high though for those guys so utilize the backs
- 29:33Speaker 3: in the passing game as well, so I thought it
- 29:35Speaker 3: was a good job mixing up the play calling.
- 29:38Speaker 1: Yeah, nine different receivers caught eighteen passes.
- 29:40Speaker 2: Correct.
- 29:41Speaker 3: Really good guys have to make plays, right, use nine
- 29:44Speaker 3: different receivers there. Let's talk defense here for a second.
- 29:48Speaker 3: We saw the big pass plays be a problem again,
- 29:52Speaker 3: and that's something that So we're eight games in and
- 29:55Speaker 3: it's every game, guys, it's every game there's a big
- 29:57Speaker 3: pass player too. That's the frightening part.
- 29:59Speaker 2: Moving forward.
- 30:00Speaker 3: You found some success offensively, you continue to be pretty
- 30:03Speaker 3: good against the run, but man, that coverage just continues
- 30:05Speaker 3: to be a major problem, which is frightening as you
- 30:08Speaker 3: head down the stretch. With these last few games. It's
- 30:10Speaker 3: a shame for the defense guys, because through most of
- 30:13Speaker 3: three quarters they had only given up seven points. Arizona
- 30:16Speaker 3: scored that other touchdown late in the third quarter. Up
- 30:19Speaker 3: until that point, you looked up and you said, I mean,
- 30:22Speaker 3: I don't feel totally comfortable here, but you're producing, right,
- 30:25Speaker 3: you're producing. You forced a couple of throwaways for Noah Fafida.
- 30:29Speaker 3: He leads the league in throwaway passes by a good margin.
- 30:32Speaker 3: You forced a couple of those, but you probably didn't
- 30:35Speaker 3: get the consistent pressure on him that you wanted. That
- 30:37Speaker 3: left that back end vulnerable at times. West Virginia. I
- 30:42Speaker 3: said this on Thursday to you, Tony, to back up
- 30:46Speaker 3: the point that you thought Nico and the offense was
- 30:49Speaker 3: gonna have to go win you of the game, not
- 30:50Speaker 3: just hold on. West Virginia had only held three opponents
- 30:54Speaker 3: out of its last fifteen under twenty one points. So
- 30:57Speaker 3: now that goes three of sixteen FBS opponents, by the way,
- 31:01Speaker 3: So you still need work on defense. You still need
- 31:04Speaker 3: some guys to make plays on that side. Hoppy, which
- 31:06Speaker 3: one of those guys. Though, let's say welcome back to TJ.
- 31:09Speaker 2: Jackson.
- 31:10Speaker 3: That's a tremendous free agent acquisition. Guys, really is a
- 31:14Speaker 3: nice job getting him on the waiver wire. Hoppy so
- 31:16Speaker 3: was excellent. We've talked stops before. That's that PFF stat
- 31:20Speaker 3: that's it's defined as a play that constitutes a failure
- 31:23Speaker 3: for the defense. Jackson yesterday had seven of those. Next
- 31:27Speaker 3: closest defender had three. That's seven is the second most
- 31:31Speaker 3: in a game this season. So does it make a
- 31:33Speaker 3: difference when TJ. Jackson's in the game.
- 31:35Speaker 2: It does.
- 31:36Speaker 1: He's been playing and he's been playing hurt too. He's
- 31:38Speaker 1: not one hundred percent. He just kind of goes out
- 31:40Speaker 1: there and guts it out there.
- 31:41Speaker 3: Yeah, couple last things, and then you can ask some
- 31:43Speaker 3: questions on grades if you want. Team wise, that's the
- 31:46Speaker 3: best passing grade of the season as a team. That's
- 31:49Speaker 3: not just a quarterback grade. That's the whole team in
- 31:51Speaker 3: the passing game. Second best passing game grade, third best
- 31:54Speaker 3: pass blocking grade. Again significant when you remove a potential
- 31:59Speaker 3: NFL first under and a guy that hasn't given up
- 32:01Speaker 3: a pressure and you still pop off your third best
- 32:04Speaker 3: pass grade. So credit Johnny Williams. Right, we talk a
- 32:07Speaker 3: lot about Nico, and rightfully so, credit Johnny Williams for
- 32:09Speaker 3: coming in there and having a nice performance as well
- 32:12Speaker 3: in his first start of his career. Second best receiving grade.
- 32:16Speaker 3: What helps your pass game.
- 32:17Speaker 2: The receivers that make plays.
- 32:18Speaker 3: Receivers that make plays and get open they did yesterday, right,
- 32:21Speaker 3: So congratulations to the receivers. Second best run grade as well.
- 32:25Speaker 3: So you bust off your best pass grade, your second
- 32:28Speaker 3: best receiving grade, your second best run grade. You can
- 32:30Speaker 3: win some games hop when you do that. I mentioned already,
- 32:32Speaker 3: but it's worth noting again. Biggest play of the game
- 32:34Speaker 3: from an increased win percentage perspective, That fake punt by
- 32:37Speaker 3: Leyton Bechtel added almost fourteen percent to your win percentage probability.
- 32:43Speaker 2: Yeah, those are all good numbers. Hudson, Hudson Clement, That's
- 32:47Speaker 2: that's Mike's kid, Mike Clement. It is plays over at
- 32:51Speaker 2: the food course again. Dude, he just has a little
- 32:54Speaker 2: something in a man. He just makes plays. There were
- 32:57Speaker 2: two Wildcap defenders on the back of that end zone.
- 33:00Speaker 2: He goes up there and just says, no, I'll take this.
- 33:02Speaker 2: He just a he ballers, He's a baller.
- 33:04Speaker 3: That was.
- 33:05Speaker 2: That was a great play.
- 33:06Speaker 4: You're right, Tony, and it was patients on the part
- 33:10Speaker 4: of Nico to get Huddy, let Howdy get a chance
- 33:13Speaker 4: to get to the back of the end zone and
- 33:15Speaker 4: then throws of fastball in there and all you see
- 33:19Speaker 4: is Huddy's arms go up.
- 33:21Speaker 2: You know, he had to go up for it. There
- 33:22Speaker 2: were defenders around him. That was.
- 33:24Speaker 3: That was a remarkable, tough, tough, contested catch. Credit to Hudson.
- 33:28Speaker 3: And then good patience by Niko. Yes, on fourth down
- 33:31Speaker 3: when it's closing in around you and you've got to
- 33:33Speaker 3: make a play to hang and wait for him to
- 33:35Speaker 3: drag across. That's again the patience of Nico at times
- 33:39Speaker 3: for an inexperienced quarterback in terms of game snaps, that
- 33:43Speaker 3: was really impressive. Let's do one other offensive shout out
- 33:45Speaker 3: real quick. It was your third highest graded offensive player.
- 33:49Speaker 3: I'll give you two. Niko is your top graded offensive player.
- 33:51Speaker 3: Your third highest graded player was Treylon Davis. He eviscerated
- 33:56Speaker 3: somebody on one of those plays on the outside Johnny
- 33:59Speaker 3: Williams blocks. Was it a fourth down play? I believe
- 34:01Speaker 3: walks down on a fourth down? Here comes Traylan Davis across.
- 34:05Speaker 3: Absolutely Locke was a car crash for that kid. I
- 34:09Speaker 3: mean his whip back, I mean just drilled him. So
- 34:13Speaker 3: good job Traylan Davis, your second highest graded offensive player.
- 34:16Speaker 3: This is an important note and you didn't probably say
- 34:18Speaker 3: his name a bunch, but he had a massive catch
- 34:21Speaker 3: justin Robinson here. Just that was a big fight. So
- 34:24Speaker 3: two things. What a great play call in that bunch
- 34:27Speaker 3: setting Dunlap about came out of his chair on what
- 34:29Speaker 3: a great play call it was to try and avoid
- 34:32Speaker 3: the man pressure and the grabbing off the line, and
- 34:34Speaker 3: they bunched it. Robinson cuts in, Nico delivers it. Massive
- 34:38Speaker 3: fourth down conversion for Robinson.
- 34:40Speaker 1: Yeah, talk about the efficiency of the passing game. Here's
- 34:43Speaker 1: what that means. So Justin Robinson was targeted three times,
- 34:46Speaker 1: he caught three. Cole Taylor was targeted four times, he
- 34:49Speaker 1: caught three. Jahem White was targeted four times, he caught three.
- 34:52Speaker 1: Traylon Ray three targets, two catches, Hudson Clement two targets,
- 34:56Speaker 1: two catches. I need some more targets. Rodney gall three targets,
- 35:01Speaker 1: two catches, Jayalen Anderson, Traylan Davis and C. J. Donaldson
- 35:04Speaker 1: all targeted once and each caught the ball once. So
- 35:07Speaker 1: that that's why he threw eighty two percent completions. Right,
- 35:10Speaker 1: you didn't have you didn't have a lot of lost
- 35:13Speaker 1: passes out there. So those are those are big, big numbers.
- 35:17Speaker 1: What was What was McMillan's PFF as a passer?
- 35:22Speaker 3: It was really good. Well, he might have been the
- 35:24Speaker 3: second best passer in the game.
- 35:25Speaker 2: I mean he had he should have had two completions.
- 35:28Speaker 2: I mean that one. How about one? Drive freaks.
- 35:35Speaker 1: Tenor roha McMillan. We said that a thousand times during
- 35:38Speaker 1: the week leading up to this and in the game,
- 35:40Speaker 1: and he let and he lived and he lived up
- 35:42Speaker 1: to his billing ten catches two hundred and two yards
- 35:47Speaker 1: a touchdown with a long of forty nine. He was
- 35:49Speaker 1: targeted thirteen times.
- 35:52Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's what you should do. How many how
- 35:54Speaker 3: made feet to throw it? Because he should have been
- 35:56Speaker 3: targeted more. Yeah, just throw it to him every time.
- 35:58Speaker 1: Targeted thirteen and he completed ten of them.
- 36:02Speaker 2: He was.
- 36:03Speaker 3: He was three of three on balls of twenty yards
- 36:05Speaker 3: or more. He was four of seven on balls between
- 36:08Speaker 3: ten and twenty. He was just he was really good.
- 36:11Speaker 1: You know, when you've got a long receiver out there
- 36:13Speaker 1: like he is with fluidity, you know, if they're going
- 36:18Speaker 1: against your team, it's hard to watch, but like if
- 36:20Speaker 1: you're just out there watching that dude, it's that's a player.
- 36:24Speaker 2: Man.
- 36:24Speaker 4: There was a time Tony one of his catches where
- 36:27Speaker 4: there were literally three mountaineers around him, you might remember,
- 36:30Speaker 4: and he went up and caught it.
- 36:31Speaker 1: Was like a jump ball, playing the game on the
- 36:33Speaker 1: near sideline. Yeah, he just that was and that pass
- 36:36Speaker 1: was absolute total desperation.
- 36:38Speaker 3: He just told the desperation. He wasn't looking, no, he was.
- 36:41Speaker 3: He Fafita spun in a circle and threw it like
- 36:43Speaker 3: that was one of those when you play backyard football
- 36:46Speaker 3: and the quarterback is also the punter, and you have
- 36:49Speaker 3: to declare this is a punt, right, you call it.
- 36:52Speaker 3: We're done running our offensive series. We're gonna punt. I
- 36:54Speaker 3: think Fafita called that out before he threw that. Yeah,
- 36:56Speaker 3: I think he just called it out hop and said,
- 36:58Speaker 3: there's going to be a punt.
- 36:59Speaker 2: But you know what, it's not a bad play if
- 37:01Speaker 2: you throw it in the area of McMillan.
- 37:05Speaker 1: No, it's not bad play. Chances are chances always going
- 37:08Speaker 1: to get it. Chances areways going to get it.
- 37:11Speaker 3: He's eligible for the draft, right, he's he's able to
- 37:13Speaker 3: go because he yeah, he's yeah on Sunday next year.
- 37:18Speaker 1: Yeah, he needs to go.
- 37:19Speaker 4: That was that was That was a pretty impressive and
- 37:22Speaker 4: that stands out because of that that past game or
- 37:25Speaker 4: of McMillan. But West Virginia do a good job on
- 37:27Speaker 4: the run of stopping the run. They are of slowing
- 37:29Speaker 4: the runner.
- 37:29Speaker 1: A good run stop team. They truly are a good
- 37:31Speaker 1: run stop team. I think Tedoro McMillan, the way that
- 37:36Speaker 1: he dominated the game similar from a West Virginia perspective
- 37:40Speaker 1: to a Kevin White when Kevin had his unbelievable season.
- 37:44Speaker 1: It's that kind of stuff like, hey, throw it near him,
- 37:46Speaker 1: He's going to.
- 37:47Speaker 2: Catch it like a Reggie remembered throw in his area.
- 37:49Speaker 1: Throwing near it, I'll come get it.
- 37:52Speaker 2: Three guys before the game, we're gonna get an You
- 37:53Speaker 2: got some individual grades on players.
- 37:56Speaker 3: Yeah, if you want that, give you a couple of
- 37:57Speaker 3: their offensive.
- 37:58Speaker 1: Let me just tell you this. The three guys before
- 37:59Speaker 1: the game was brought to us by lou Wendell Marine
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- 38:04Speaker 1: Saint Albans. Well, we were flying the other day, I
- 38:07Speaker 1: didn't notice. This is a pretty big piece of water
- 38:10Speaker 1: near Tucson. Really, Yeah, some kind of a lake do this?
- 38:13Speaker 2: Do that?
- 38:14Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what it is, just a big
- 38:16Speaker 1: piece of water, And anyway, probably could get a lou
- 38:19Speaker 1: Wendell pontoon in there. They sell the Avalon manufactured pontoon boats,
- 38:25Speaker 1: which are made right here in the United States in
- 38:27Speaker 1: the state of Michigan.
- 38:28Speaker 2: Silverville Lake, silver Bell, Silverville.
- 38:31Speaker 1: Yeah, you could put a pontoon in that. Lou Wendell
- 38:33Speaker 1: Marine sALS the premier pontoon boat dealer in the state.
- 38:36Speaker 1: I think we could go ahead this point late in
- 38:38Speaker 1: the season. The premier boat dealer in the state of
- 38:42Speaker 1: West Virginia. Pontoons, G three's, whatever kind of boat you need,
- 38:46Speaker 1: John Boats, Bob Boats, Tom Boats. They got all the
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- 38:56Speaker 1: their location in Saint Albans. The experts when it comes
- 39:02Speaker 1: to boting here in the state of West Virginia, individual grades,
- 39:06Speaker 1: anything popping at you.
- 39:08Speaker 3: I think it really just kind of fell along what
- 39:10Speaker 3: you would think. I gave you the top three offense
- 39:12Speaker 3: with Nico Justin, Robinson, Traylan Davis, Jehem and CJ are
- 39:15Speaker 3: right there. Treylon Ray in the top six as well.
- 39:18Speaker 3: Hudson also top ten, So that's as you would expect.
- 39:21Speaker 3: You look over at the defense, Josiah Trotter walks away
- 39:24Speaker 3: with a good grade, Fagans up there, Jackson's up there,
- 39:28Speaker 3: Crandle So it's kind of interesting to your top four
- 39:30Speaker 3: being corners. And again, I know there was some busted
- 39:33Speaker 3: coverages there. There's enough blame to go around on all
- 39:36Speaker 3: of that, but that's the concern.
- 39:38Speaker 2: Guys.
- 39:38Speaker 3: You've just got to find a way to either get
- 39:41Speaker 3: some more pressure or stop the busts. That was really
- 39:44Speaker 3: the thing. I know they were completing passes underneath, but
- 39:48Speaker 3: again from a results points basis, you're mostly through three
- 39:51Speaker 3: quarters only giving up seven, so you're around it. You
- 39:53Speaker 3: can give up yards hop just try and step up
- 39:56Speaker 3: in key moments. But it's those big plays that come
- 39:59Speaker 3: so easily. That's what makes put so much stress on
- 40:02Speaker 3: that offense and hard to win games when you're having
- 40:04Speaker 3: those those big plays against you every single week.
- 40:08Speaker 2: Rather, there was that moment where.
- 40:12Speaker 4: It was late in the game and Arizona was starting
- 40:14Speaker 4: to make a run and I think West Virginia scored
- 40:17Speaker 4: or whatever, and you said, what you have to prevent
- 40:19Speaker 4: now is Arizona scoring quickly?
- 40:22Speaker 2: And what happened, And they scored quickly.
- 40:23Speaker 3: In about two minutes because you needed them to work
- 40:26Speaker 3: some clock because they still needed the ball twice to
- 40:28Speaker 3: get the win. Johnny Williams, real cuck. Let's point out
- 40:31Speaker 3: some that I said. The pass blocking was excellent. Remac
- 40:33Speaker 3: off the charts in pass blocking, Johnny Williams, your second
- 40:36Speaker 3: best pass blocking grade behind Remack Wow.
- 40:38Speaker 1: So really good at unsettledness early in the game, with
- 40:42Speaker 1: motion up front on both offensive end, defensive lines. Something
- 40:45Speaker 1: was going on there with cadence or something because it's
- 40:48Speaker 1: a different voice. Yeah, that's what you wonder, was it was?
- 40:50Speaker 1: It just Nico's different how he calls.
- 40:52Speaker 3: It was different. They were jumping off too, they had
- 40:55Speaker 3: sides and you had some false starts.
- 40:57Speaker 2: It.
- 40:57Speaker 4: It was weird. Yeah, it was really weird. The way
- 41:00Speaker 4: that game started. You thought, uh, oh, we're in for
- 41:03Speaker 4: a eleven and twelve penalties on these two teams.
- 41:07Speaker 3: Right, We're in for a big plague and called back
- 41:09Speaker 3: on a flag because those guys were liking to throw
- 41:11Speaker 3: those flags early, and.
- 41:12Speaker 2: Unfortunately one was on a run by Fefida when they
- 41:15Speaker 2: called a hold.
- 41:16Speaker 3: That was an excellent call, that was right on it.
- 41:17Speaker 2: That's perfect.
- 41:18Speaker 1: Same crew, I believe, I need to check the same
- 41:20Speaker 1: crew as we had at Oklahoma State. That's the Kevin
- 41:23Speaker 1: Mark Crue. That's the crew that worked the Big twelve
- 41:25Speaker 1: championship game last year.
- 41:27Speaker 4: Yeah, i'd like to see I'd like to sit in sometime.
- 41:31Speaker 4: Excuse me, I'd like to sit in sometime when they do.
- 41:33Speaker 4: I'm sure they do an annual review instruction go over things.
- 41:36Speaker 1: Yeah, they do it at media day. I'd like to
- 41:38Speaker 1: go to Alan remember sweet Alan Taylor. Yeah, he used
- 41:42Speaker 1: to work here. He used to go to that in
- 41:44Speaker 1: the spring. Is when they have it, they bring all
- 41:46Speaker 1: the officials together and they would clinic and he would
- 41:49Speaker 1: go to that. Would I would like to see that
- 41:52Speaker 1: and have them go through the holds. Yeah, past interference
- 41:56Speaker 1: in targeting, just watch just to better understand, not to
- 41:59Speaker 1: criticize this, but better understand targeting.
- 42:02Speaker 2: Man, Well, hold, I mean hold holding.
- 42:04Speaker 3: A pass interference too, because they allow hands, They allow
- 42:07Speaker 3: hands on you in the defensive backfield. Sometimes called some times.
- 42:10Speaker 4: I mean there were sometimes you watch it and they
- 42:11Speaker 4: hold and you watch it. Oh yeah, okay, it is
- 42:13Speaker 4: what they called it on Remac. One time right had
- 42:15Speaker 4: his arm around the waist or something. Okay, that's a hold.
- 42:17Speaker 4: But other times where your hands are still in.
- 42:21Speaker 2: Well, I would have liked to watch that sometimes.
- 42:23Speaker 3: A couple couple of other numbers real quick, Can I
- 42:25Speaker 3: go back to some other numbers, because I think your game,
- 42:28Speaker 3: you took control of the game in the first quarter.
- 42:32Speaker 3: You ran twenty two plays to their five. Hoppy twenty
- 42:38Speaker 3: two plays to five first quarter for a team that's
- 42:41Speaker 3: reeling like Arizona, that probably wasn't comfortable. You had time
- 42:45Speaker 3: of possession in the first quarter twelve minutes forty two
- 42:47Speaker 3: seconds to their two minutes and eighteen seconds. That's where
- 42:51Speaker 3: you see some control, right.
- 42:53Speaker 1: Time of possession for the whole game. You're plus ten right, well.
- 42:56Speaker 3: That that's where it came. Yeah, twelve forty two to
- 42:58Speaker 3: two eighteen. Your plus ten came right there in the
- 43:00Speaker 3: first quarter.
- 43:00Speaker 1: Complimentary football. You hear that kicked around sometimes. So two
- 43:05Speaker 1: displays of it during the game. One the force turnover
- 43:10Speaker 1: KK Taranu Garnett, Hollis recovers West Virginia goes down, drives,
- 43:14Speaker 1: it gets the points. That is complimentary football. Zay Jennings
- 43:20Speaker 1: with an explosive special teams tackle a lot of kickoff
- 43:25Speaker 1: hammers them back. Subsequently, the defense pushes them back even further.
- 43:31Speaker 1: They have to punt. You get a short field, you
- 43:34Speaker 1: score a touchdown off of that. That's perfect.
- 43:36Speaker 3: The replay helped you. That's why that was going to
- 43:39Speaker 3: be such a missed opportunity because you got the great
- 43:41Speaker 3: special teams coverage. Your defense absolutely stood up and forced
- 43:45Speaker 3: the punt, and then he shanked the punt. It's a
- 43:47Speaker 3: thirty six yard punt, So you had all those things working.
- 43:49Speaker 3: That's why that was going to be a devastating offensive possession.
- 43:52Speaker 4: But it started with as you said, Tony, it started
- 43:55Speaker 4: with a guy making a play and then the sack,
- 43:57Speaker 4: and then you forced them back in. But I tell you,
- 44:01Speaker 4: I had some of my boys at the game because
- 44:03Speaker 4: I have a couple of friends who live out there,
- 44:05Speaker 4: and they texted me when West Virginia's up twenty four
- 44:07Speaker 4: to seven and said, wow, we don't feel good about
- 44:10Speaker 4: the math, which is classic, and I don't think anybody did.
- 44:15Speaker 4: You probably didn't either, just like I felt good when
- 44:21Speaker 4: it was what eighteen points? Was it eighteen points and
- 44:25Speaker 4: thirteen fifty five to go in the fourth quarter? I
- 44:27Speaker 4: think it was, yes, yes, yes, it was eighteen yes, And.
- 44:30Speaker 1: I thought, okay, just don't let him score fast. Boom boom,
- 44:35Speaker 1: chuck a luckety. Then all of a sudden, your pucker
- 44:37Speaker 1: factor goes like you start doing the math, going like whoa,
- 44:40Speaker 1: and then it comes down to Jaylen Anderson as soon
- 44:43Speaker 1: as he goes out of bounds and then you can
- 44:45Speaker 1: do the math.
- 44:45Speaker 2: They're out of time out, so you go, thank the Lord,
- 44:47Speaker 2: so here we go.
- 44:48Speaker 3: We were doing Yeah, So you're right. That was the
- 44:50Speaker 3: point when I said, just just make them take four
- 44:52Speaker 3: minutes to score here, and you're okay, they're not gonna
- 44:54Speaker 3: have enough time scoring too. And then we were doing
- 44:56Speaker 3: the math along with that. They and they listen, Arizona
- 44:59Speaker 3: manage that clock well, taking their timeouts the way they did.
- 45:01Speaker 3: You had to get you had to have that play
- 45:03Speaker 3: otherwise you were going to give it back to them
- 45:05Speaker 3: with time. So that's a great four and a half
- 45:07Speaker 3: minute drive right there to kill that time right to
- 45:11Speaker 3: kill the final four and a half minutes. That's a
- 45:12Speaker 3: long time and certainly as big a playability as that
- 45:17Speaker 3: Arizona team had. You had to close that out. So
- 45:19Speaker 3: again with a quarterback without a lot of game experience
- 45:22Speaker 3: to manage through that, Anderson to come off the bench
- 45:25Speaker 3: with a pinch hit home run basically a massive, massive
- 45:28Speaker 3: way to close that out and get a really good
- 45:30Speaker 3: road win.
- 45:32Speaker 1: All right, you guys are ready to do this. Yep,
- 45:34Speaker 1: ready to do this, Ready to do this, Ready to
- 45:35Speaker 1: do this.
- 45:36Speaker 2: Let's do this.
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- 46:17Speaker 1: We're all decked out today in various three guys gear,
- 46:20Speaker 1: Brad and I are. We're wearing Adidas, Hoppy is wearing.
- 46:24Speaker 1: Is that Peter Malar he's going on there? Yes, Peter Millar. Plus.
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- 46:29Speaker 1: and we're getting ready to have our Christmas collection coming out.
- 46:35Speaker 2: We're doing popcorn.
- 46:36Speaker 1: Aw yes, thanks for asking me. We're going to do
- 46:38Speaker 1: popcorn again. We'll have the information on that. It's like
- 46:41Speaker 1: coming up November two weeks or so, November tenth, November
- 46:44Speaker 1: eleventh is one we're going to be doing that. So
- 46:48Speaker 1: that's a good thing, and that's it'll take care a
- 46:50Speaker 1: lot of Christmas shopping if you're interested. It's an easy
- 46:54Speaker 1: way to shop. All right, let's do Textual Healing and
- 47:00Speaker 1: before yeah, let me do this, so before we get
- 47:03Speaker 1: into these questions, let me let me do it. I
- 47:08Speaker 1: need to do a reset.
- 47:09Speaker 2: OK.
- 47:09Speaker 1: Can I do a reset? Of course, because I think
- 47:12Speaker 1: that over the last couple of weeks that obviously things
- 47:17Speaker 1: had not gone well up until last night. You lose
- 47:20Speaker 1: a couple of games, so a lot of people get
- 47:22Speaker 1: very very upset. Totally get it, totally understand it, and
- 47:26Speaker 1: we feel it as well. Totally get it. But there
- 47:29Speaker 1: seems to be a I'm not going to say lack
- 47:33Speaker 1: of understanding, but a misperception as to.
- 47:38Speaker 4: What.
- 47:39Speaker 1: And I'm not going to speak for these guys. I'm
- 47:41Speaker 1: going to speak for me. I think some folks don't
- 47:44Speaker 1: understand my relationship with the WVU Athletic Department and with
- 47:49Speaker 1: this show, and the reality of it is that I
- 47:53Speaker 1: work for both sides, so to speak, if there are sides,
- 47:57Speaker 1: have for a long time. And so I had kind
- 48:01Speaker 1: of like this epiphany after the Iowa State game when
- 48:05Speaker 1: we got a lot of questions or a lot of
- 48:08Speaker 1: texts that said, you know, fire, Neil Brown, fire, Jordan Leslie, fire,
- 48:14Speaker 1: this fire that don't you understand the record against top
- 48:18Speaker 1: twenty five teams is whatever it is, is like non
- 48:22Speaker 1: existent and things like that, and used a bunch of them.
- 48:27Speaker 1: I used a bunch of them that day because it
- 48:28Speaker 1: was just like, okay, just here they are. And then
- 48:30Speaker 1: I had this epiphany to myself, going like, you know what,
- 48:35Speaker 1: that's not a good place for me to be because
- 48:40Speaker 1: it's just not fair to the people that I work
- 48:44Speaker 1: with when I go to WVU, Like, the last thing
- 48:48Speaker 1: I'm going to do is sit here and sing a
- 48:51Speaker 1: story and say hey fire, Neil Brown, fire, Jordan Leslie, fire,
- 48:56Speaker 1: everyone else, everything is terrible, and then go over and
- 48:59Speaker 1: lively work with these people. That's not a position that
- 49:04Speaker 1: I want to be in, and that's not a position
- 49:07Speaker 1: that I'm going to be in, And so it gets repetitive,
- 49:13Speaker 1: like we completely understand, and my intent is to talk
- 49:17Speaker 1: about these things in general terms, and these guys can
- 49:20Speaker 1: do whatever they want. They can say whatever they want,
- 49:21Speaker 1: and I think the history of the show shows they
- 49:23Speaker 1: can say whatever they want. We've gone through a bunch
- 49:25Speaker 1: of stuff football and basketball since the show started.
- 49:29Speaker 2: But that's not me.
- 49:31Speaker 1: I've never been a coach killer. My assessment is always this,
- 49:35Speaker 1: let the thing play out, then do your evaluation and
- 49:39Speaker 1: see where you are, plain and simple. But if you
- 49:43Speaker 1: think I want to get on here and say hey
- 49:45Speaker 1: fire this guy, fire, that guy, Fire Dana Holgerson, never
- 49:48Speaker 1: you know, fire this guy. Everyone's terrible, not gonna happen.
- 49:51Speaker 1: If you want that kind of a podcast, then you
- 49:54Speaker 1: got to find another one. When it comes to my
- 49:57Speaker 1: side of things, that's not this, never has been, never
- 50:01Speaker 1: will be. I think a lot of the folks that
- 50:03Speaker 1: are upset is because I'm not agreen with you, and
- 50:08Speaker 1: as a result of that, you're not going to hear
- 50:09Speaker 1: what you want to hear. So if that bums out,
- 50:12Speaker 1: then sorry, But that's been the premise of this podcast
- 50:16Speaker 1: and I'm not changing that. Find another one. Thanks for
- 50:20Speaker 1: being one of us, thanks for having us. But that's
- 50:22Speaker 1: kind of my position. I just don't think it's fair
- 50:26Speaker 1: to do that in my situation.
- 50:29Speaker 4: Tony, I would agree with that. I think you're right.
- 50:31Speaker 4: I mean, you're you're not in that. You accurately define
- 50:34Speaker 4: your position, and it is it is unfair to expect
- 50:39Speaker 4: you to be somebody's going to say fire this guy
- 50:41Speaker 4: or for the guy. I think I think that is
- 50:42Speaker 4: a candid and accurate representation on your part. You know,
- 50:46Speaker 4: I have a little more latitude.
- 50:48Speaker 2: I'm not.
- 50:48Speaker 4: I don't take any joy either and saying you should
- 50:50Speaker 4: you know, fire this coach with that coach. I but
- 50:53Speaker 4: I have a little more latitude because I'm not employed
- 50:55Speaker 4: by the university. But I see my role more as
- 50:58Speaker 4: a reporter. Here is what's going on. I can relate
- 51:01Speaker 4: to you what is going on, maybe offering some opinions,
- 51:03Speaker 4: but try to gather insight and say this is where
- 51:05Speaker 4: things are.
- 51:06Speaker 2: So I have a little more latitude than you do.
- 51:09Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely so, just kind of clear the ear. Maybe
- 51:12Speaker 1: some people joined us in midstream, don't quite get the
- 51:14Speaker 1: association of the relationship, but that's kind of where it is,
- 51:18Speaker 1: and uh going forward, that's that's it, all right, Yeah,
- 51:21Speaker 1: let's do these uh texter, I may have screwed these
- 51:26Speaker 1: sheets up, by the way, Oh, I don't know. I
- 51:28Speaker 1: just don't know that. What's your what's your first what's
- 51:31Speaker 1: the first word on your sheet? Still many, Okay, yes,
- 51:33Speaker 1: let's do this. Then I guess that's right. Still many,
- 51:36Speaker 1: many questions, but lots in front of them going into
- 51:39Speaker 1: the bye week. Strange things have happened in this league
- 51:42Speaker 1: this year and they will continue to occur. Signed by
- 51:46Speaker 1: Joe in Charleston, and Joe is holding a Pepperoni role.
- 51:51Speaker 1: So I think I screwed this stuff.
- 51:52Speaker 2: Up.
- 51:52Speaker 4: But anyway, fine, Brad, what have we said about this
- 51:54Speaker 4: league and what do we see yesterday?
- 51:56Speaker 3: Small margin, frayer, balanced league, anything can happen.
- 52:00Speaker 2: Got to go out and produce. That's what it is.
- 52:03Speaker 1: I didn't see the end of TCU that was, Yeah,
- 52:05Speaker 1: it was.
- 52:06Speaker 2: How about the Houstons Houston's.
- 52:09Speaker 1: You said that, you said, you said, during the course
- 52:12Speaker 1: of the season, you go, here's what's going to happen.
- 52:14Speaker 1: Like some games they'll get blowed out and other games
- 52:16Speaker 1: are going to surprise somebody a little bit of a surprise.
- 52:20Speaker 3: I would have preferred for a league perspective, they stayed
- 52:22Speaker 3: where they were.
- 52:25Speaker 4: Somebody needs to be easy, right, see what you're saying now,
- 52:28Speaker 4: Baylor's getting better.
- 52:29Speaker 3: I listen, I'm not plowing the ground here. I think
- 52:31Speaker 3: Willie Fritz does a heck of a job. He's a
- 52:33Speaker 3: good coach and there's a lot of talent in that
- 52:35Speaker 3: area that I think they're going to finally figure out
- 52:37Speaker 3: how to get. That's going to be a dangerous team
- 52:39Speaker 3: as well.
- 52:40Speaker 1: P One Jason and Phoenix Rights. So he was there. Hey, guys,
- 52:44Speaker 1: I am not a Jinx. Remember he was always saying
- 52:46Speaker 1: that every time he goes they lose. Just got home
- 52:48Speaker 1: from the trip. Shout out to all the Mountaineer fans
- 52:50Speaker 1: who were in Section twenty one down by the field
- 52:53Speaker 1: and struck around to say country roads and congratulate the players.
- 52:56Speaker 1: Tucson's the least intimidating environment I've ever seen. I couldn't
- 53:00Speaker 1: even tell the game was scheduled. I went to the
- 53:02Speaker 1: Arizona State Utah game, and I thought that Tempe was
- 53:06Speaker 1: Tempe was pretty soft. But now Tempe seems like the
- 53:09Speaker 1: Thunderdome compared to Tucson. A couple of questions. Do field
- 53:13Speaker 1: goal kickers use juiced balls in the pregame to build confidence?
- 53:16Speaker 1: Arizona's kicker made one from sixty five in pregame that
- 53:20Speaker 1: could have been a seventy yarder.
- 53:21Speaker 2: He's a good kids leg. Yeah, he's a dude.
- 53:24Speaker 1: Does Hudson Clement have the best hands we've seen since
- 53:27Speaker 1: David Sills? And did Sills have the best hands we
- 53:29Speaker 1: have seen since Kevin White?
- 53:31Speaker 2: You might.
- 53:33Speaker 1: There you go. Please send my thoughts and prayers to
- 53:36Speaker 1: John Antonic regarding a swift and speedy recovery of his glasses.
- 53:41Speaker 1: I don't want him to have to drop a ten
- 53:43Speaker 1: dollars peer at the at Walgreens on another pair, and
- 53:45Speaker 1: neither does his relative Stephanie, who works at my company.
- 53:49Speaker 1: Always a West Virginia connection. I love the show happen.
- 53:53Speaker 1: What happened was Tim Brando came into our booth pregame
- 53:56Speaker 1: and Tona got up to make room, left his re
- 54:00Speaker 1: on the countertop. When he came back, they were gone.
- 54:04Speaker 2: So Brando warrem during the broadcast.
- 54:06Speaker 1: Seems as though Antonic is making that inference.
- 54:10Speaker 2: Huh.
- 54:10Speaker 1: I don't think Tim would take him, but maybe mis
- 54:12Speaker 1: mishandled them, put him into a breast pocket or something
- 54:15Speaker 1: like that, and all of a sudden they were gone.
- 54:17Speaker 1: So John's been talking about it now for about three weeks.
- 54:21Speaker 1: Ben from Ohia, like I said last week, you need
- 54:25Speaker 1: two hundred ish passing and fifty ish rushing from Nico
- 54:28Speaker 1: that would make me feel optimistic about the future. I
- 54:32Speaker 1: got it. Basketball question, I believe I saw Ken Palm
- 54:35Speaker 1: had us going thirteen and sixteen. So let's say the
- 54:39Speaker 1: over under is it thirteen and a half? Brad, do
- 54:42Speaker 1: you think there's value in an alternate line that says
- 54:45Speaker 1: sixteen and a half.
- 54:47Speaker 2: A little high?
- 54:49Speaker 3: Don't know, Grimace like gone win through win yet you get.
- 54:54Speaker 3: You talk about something that's difficult, preseason win totals in
- 54:59Speaker 3: college basketball with so many roster transformations best of luck.
- 55:03Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta wait, so like anymore with the transfer,
- 55:06Speaker 4: you gotta wait till like what you made January.
- 55:09Speaker 3: He had to see some stuff. Yeah, that's that's a
- 55:11Speaker 3: tough market to play.
- 55:12Speaker 4: Hey, talking about Nico is that looking ahead? Which we
- 55:15Speaker 4: can afford to do. That was a pretty good audition
- 55:18Speaker 4: for next year, wasn't it?
- 55:19Speaker 1: Absolutely? Absolutely? It was no question.
- 55:23Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that? Was it? Right?
- 55:25Speaker 1: That was it?
- 55:26Speaker 2: By the way, over under on Cutaways to his dad
- 55:29Speaker 2: in that game.
- 55:30Speaker 1: Did they?
- 55:30Speaker 2: I said in that our monitor was above my head,
- 55:33Speaker 2: so that's a good place to put the monitor. The
- 55:34Speaker 2: only time I.
- 55:35Speaker 1: Looked at it was like when there was a review going.
- 55:37Speaker 2: On Cutaways probably what Brad five and a half.
- 55:42Speaker 1: Probably funny situation. They have a patio behind their press
- 55:49Speaker 1: room there, Yeah, and they had a chef back there.
- 55:52Speaker 2: Really we went up.
- 55:53Speaker 1: We were there early early. This dude was cooking like
- 55:55Speaker 1: unbelievable food and great looking chicken he made. He would
- 55:58Speaker 1: have had grilled figs, all samic vinegar on like all
- 56:01Speaker 1: these these roasted grilled vegetables. It was like, really really good.
- 56:05Speaker 1: I goes man, they really feed these dude. Then I
- 56:07Speaker 1: walked out where the tables were and it said Fox
- 56:11Speaker 1: TV crew. Only then after they ate, they cleaned that
- 56:16Speaker 1: table up.
- 56:17Speaker 2: You know what it was?
- 56:18Speaker 1: What tater tots and corn dogs? Got rid of that
- 56:23Speaker 1: balsamic glaze real quick? You didn't so you didn't get that.
- 56:26Speaker 1: I got, Yeah, whatever was there. That's fine, Texter. I
- 56:29Speaker 1: just read Reren Baker's letter tomounts in your nation. It
- 56:33Speaker 1: is not surprising that revenue and limited budgets are an
- 56:36Speaker 1: issue for do WVU athletics. A question I've had is
- 56:40Speaker 1: what does the MAC provide to the university as means
- 56:43Speaker 1: of support and what do they provide to supporters. It
- 56:47Speaker 1: would seem this is a time to consolidate the revenue
- 56:50Speaker 1: streams that WVU Athletics does have coming in, including donation.
- 56:55Speaker 1: Would it not make more sense to steer the donations
- 56:57Speaker 1: into the trust? Mind you, I understand the Trust doesn't
- 57:00Speaker 1: support the university or contribute to budgets, but this would
- 57:03Speaker 1: streamline donations into a singular pot and would assist WVU
- 57:08Speaker 1: and be more competitive on the nil landscape. Nick from
- 57:11Speaker 1: Kingwood So let's talk about Wren's letter because I think
- 57:20Speaker 1: that here was my biggest takeaway from that letter. Well,
- 57:24Speaker 1: some might say it was football related, like whatever you
- 57:30Speaker 1: want to call it, a vote of confidence, not vote
- 57:33Speaker 1: of kind of whatever you want to say that it
- 57:35Speaker 1: is a kind of a perspective type thing. I personally
- 57:38Speaker 1: think the biggest thing in that letter was the mention
- 57:44Speaker 1: of where WVU is financially in comparison to other schools
- 57:51Speaker 1: in Power four and within the Big twelve conferences. That
- 57:55Speaker 1: was the biggest piece without any question of that letter
- 58:00Speaker 1: because and I know this isn't sexy type of stuff,
- 58:04Speaker 1: but like, what's happening right now within WVU and within
- 58:10Speaker 1: all of the power for universities in the country when
- 58:13Speaker 1: it comes to athletics is a complete redefinition of how
- 58:20Speaker 1: they are going to work their money because this revenue
- 58:24Speaker 1: share that goes into effect in July is asking athletic
- 58:28Speaker 1: departments to pay up to twenty two percent of their budget.
- 58:32Speaker 1: Well guess what you can't really quickly amass what, in
- 58:38Speaker 1: West Virginia's case, could be twenty to twenty two million
- 58:41Speaker 1: dollars to pay to the student athletes starting in July.
- 58:45Speaker 1: Like where does that come from? And that's a challenge
- 58:48Speaker 1: that all of the schools are facing. So what's going
- 58:53Speaker 1: on is departments like WVU have got to look at
- 58:58Speaker 1: it and go like, Okay, how are we going to
- 59:00Speaker 1: do this? And the short answer is that to think
- 59:08Speaker 1: that you're gonna go out there and generate like I
- 59:10Speaker 1: think the MAC might do it, is that does thirteen
- 59:13Speaker 1: million sound right?
- 59:14Speaker 2: Sound like?
- 59:15Speaker 1: You know, I don't know, and I think is that
- 59:16Speaker 1: kind of like would that be realistic? They generate thirteen million? Okay,
- 59:20Speaker 1: let's just say it's thirteen million in a year. Now
- 59:23Speaker 1: give me thirty three million because I need another twenty
- 59:26Speaker 1: not happening. Can't do it just it's not there, not
- 59:30Speaker 1: going to happen. So what has to happen for WVU
- 59:34Speaker 1: quote unquote to be able to be viable to make
- 59:37Speaker 1: its revenue share payments but at the same time keep
- 59:40Speaker 1: the athletic department going. You need to have a redefinition
- 59:46Speaker 1: of how you fund your program. And West Virginia proudly
- 59:50Speaker 1: for years and years and years and said we're self
- 59:53Speaker 1: sustaining as an athletic department. We're going to pay our
- 59:57Speaker 1: own bills. Well, guess what days are over schools. Universities
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: now need to realize and they need to figure out
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: what their ability is going to be to help support
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: athletic departments. That's the next thing. And so this is
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: more than an athletic department thing. This becomes a university
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: thing now across the country as to putting a value
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: as a university as to what your athletic department does
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: for your school and you've got to help them.
- 1:00:32Speaker 4: Yeah, Tony, I agree completely with your analysis. And you know,
- 1:00:36Speaker 4: and rereading the letter, he's trying to lay out candidly
- 1:00:39Speaker 4: where things are and how w is going to try
- 1:00:43Speaker 4: to get to where they need to be. What is
- 1:00:46Speaker 4: not in here, which i'd imagine that he would do
- 1:00:49Speaker 4: in one on one conversations with donors, is where West
- 1:00:52Speaker 4: Virginia stands on like coaches salaries, nil money overall budget
- 1:00:58Speaker 4: compared to other teams in the Big twelve.
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: And you're not in the top tier. You're not in
- 1:01:03Speaker 2: the top three or four. You just aren't.
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: No, you're below. You're below the bottom. You're below the middle.
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: You're below the middle in your NIL. You are below
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: the middle in your head coach salary, you are the nil.
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: Is to me the biggest thing. So in order to
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: be in order to realistically and this is big topic stuff,
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: in order to I think realistically say we want to
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: be in the top six or seven, Well, you've got
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: to do the math and you've got to say in
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: order to get there, you have got to fund the
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: thing at least in the upper half, at least from
- 1:01:45Speaker 1: eight up in order to want to finish in the
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: top eight. Otherwise, the schools that have more money are
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: just going to go get the players that you want,
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: and they're going to have the players. It's it's quite simple.
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: So you've got a new president coming in at WVU
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: that's going to be massive in importance because that person
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: has got to have the philosophy of supporting the athletic department.
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: It's key to the future of West Virginia because if
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: you don't, you're not going to have the dollars to
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: go get the athletes that you need. And right now,
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: that's where this thing is. So that was my biggest
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: takeaway from that, finally coming out and going like, hey,
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: guess what, we need to figure this thing.
- 1:02:25Speaker 2: Out and look at this line.
- 1:02:27Speaker 4: We are deep in our planning with our goal, with
- 1:02:30Speaker 4: our goal of maintaining our current eighteen varsity sports. What
- 1:02:34Speaker 4: we've not yet finalized is the ongoing level of support
- 1:02:37Speaker 4: we will be able to offer each program.
- 1:02:39Speaker 3: I mean yeah, because that's part of it.
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: Guys.
- 1:02:41Speaker 3: It's not just the raising of new dollars. There's going
- 1:02:44Speaker 3: to be cuts. That's the other way you gain money.
- 1:02:46Speaker 3: You know, raise more or you cut. There's going to
- 1:02:48Speaker 3: be cuts. If you've been following the national landscape of that,
- 1:02:50Speaker 3: there's been articles out there reporting on that there's going
- 1:02:53Speaker 3: to be opportunities that go away for some of these
- 1:02:55Speaker 3: other sports. That's just the reality the situation where it is.
- 1:02:58Speaker 3: I do think once it becomes the revenue share, that
- 1:03:02Speaker 3: will help normalize some of this. For example, there's schools
- 1:03:05Speaker 3: in the Big twelve right now use BYUS an example,
- 1:03:08Speaker 3: because the report was out this week that they have
- 1:03:10Speaker 3: their NIL spending. Then when they need different players, there's
- 1:03:14Speaker 3: more money that's available on an individual basis. They reportedly
- 1:03:17Speaker 3: just offered the number one high school basketball player in
- 1:03:19Speaker 3: America four and a half million dollars for a one
- 1:03:22Speaker 3: year deal to come play there. That's one guy above
- 1:03:25Speaker 3: and beyond what they are already paying an NIL deal,
- 1:03:28Speaker 3: So they've got some pockets that are basically unlimited right now.
- 1:03:32Speaker 3: Once it becomes revenue share, that normalizes that a little bit.
- 1:03:36Speaker 3: Now to collectives still exist outside that a lot of
- 1:03:38Speaker 3: people think they will, but that's supposed to be more
- 1:03:41Speaker 3: traditional nil commercials in such autograph sessions, that sort of thing.
- 1:03:45Speaker 3: That bringing it back in house, You've got the immediate
- 1:03:48Speaker 3: hurdle and problem of finding that twenty million dollars for
- 1:03:51Speaker 3: those individual schools. But that should keep that quote salary
- 1:03:55Speaker 3: cap a little more in range than what it appears
- 1:03:57Speaker 3: right now.
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: Rick Barnes, that head basketball coach at Tennessee, the longtime
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: coach at Texas, came out and he explained how they
- 1:04:07Speaker 1: do it, and he said, basically, this is an NBA
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: model that we use of salary structure, and quite simply,
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: we go and target three or four players, and he said,
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: they make a good amount of money, so we're going
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: to pay three or four studs and then we're going
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: to try to fill in with other players on dollar
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: amounts that are significantly less. That's how we're doing it,
- 1:04:33Speaker 1: and that's where this thing is going.
- 1:04:36Speaker 2: Brad.
- 1:04:36Speaker 4: That number is really stunning. I just did a quick search.
- 1:04:39Speaker 4: That is equal to what the thirteenth or fourteenth first
- 1:04:45Speaker 4: round player in the NBA.
- 1:04:46Speaker 3: Will make next year in correct. So quite frankly, it's
- 1:04:49Speaker 3: a bargain. It's a bargain because if the kids the
- 1:04:51Speaker 3: number one high school player in America, you're projecting him
- 1:04:54Speaker 3: to be higher than the thirteenth pick in the NBA draft,
- 1:04:56Speaker 3: And given what you pay coaches, if that guy's turns
- 1:04:59Speaker 3: out to be worth it, probably a bargain at four
- 1:05:00Speaker 3: and a half million. I mean, that's that's where you are. Again,
- 1:05:03Speaker 3: that's what you're doing. But if you want to have
- 1:05:05Speaker 3: the ability to play in that world and get that
- 1:05:07Speaker 3: talent you're going to need. You know, we talk about
- 1:05:09Speaker 3: players have to step all the time and make plays.
- 1:05:11Speaker 3: This is a situation. It's always been this way in
- 1:05:13Speaker 3: college sports. You've always asked individuals and fans to step
- 1:05:17Speaker 3: up to support you. And I've said this many times.
- 1:05:20Speaker 3: I started in the department in ninety six. The department
- 1:05:22Speaker 3: had a roughly seventeen million dollar overall budget. Thirty years later,
- 1:05:27Speaker 3: that thing's grown to one hundred million. So along the way,
- 1:05:30Speaker 3: a lot of that's TV money. But along the way,
- 1:05:32Speaker 3: donors and West Virginia fans have continued to step up.
- 1:05:35Speaker 3: This is another change in philosophy where you're going to
- 1:05:38Speaker 3: ask people to step up in a bigger way than
- 1:05:40Speaker 3: they ever have. If you want to play on the
- 1:05:41Speaker 3: biggest stage, you're going to need that help in that
- 1:05:44Speaker 3: financial backing to give you the resources to play in
- 1:05:47Speaker 3: that world.
- 1:05:47Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: I truly think universities have to make decisions. I really do.
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: They have to make a decision if they're going to
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: support their athletics program, they have to look at it
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: from the perspective of what do we get out of this?
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: What does West Virginia Universe to get out of having
- 1:06:01Speaker 1: successful football and basketball programs? What do we get out
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: of it? Does it increase our enrollment? Yes, it does.
- 1:06:09Speaker 1: So what concessions can they make? Back in nineteen ninety six,
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: when Neil Buckler was president, he took away tuition waivers
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: from the athletic department, and West Virginia now pays about
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: twelve to thirteen million dollars a year to the school
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: for tuition of student athletes. Well, are those the kind
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: of things that the university can look at now and
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: waive or significantly decrease that because now that is less
- 1:06:37Speaker 1: of an expense to the Athletic Department. Those are decisions
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: that need to be made. Universities want to be recognized,
- 1:06:43Speaker 1: they want to have the successful things. Now everyone has
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: to help.
- 1:06:46Speaker 4: It also is going to raise the influence of major
- 1:06:49Speaker 4: donors even more because the more money you put in.
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: Them, no question about it, anyway, Grad you.
- 1:06:55Speaker 3: Disagree, we'll save that discussion for another day.
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: You don't think it's all owner John from Oklahoma City.
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: He writes, you are looking live at the final score
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: on the board as we are leaving. Couldn't believe how
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: quickly the few fans showed up then gave up in
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: the third quarter. There you go, there's a scoreboard. Final things.
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: We were leaving, there was a thanks for having us
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: to a full elevator of Arizona fans who wished us
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: to save trip home.
- 1:07:26Speaker 3: Perfect. That's a perfect execution, Hospital, well done.
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: I thought that crowd would thin out because of the
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: family weekend. A lot of the lot of the moms
- 1:07:33Speaker 1: and dads that were there, they don't really care about
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: the game.
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: Now.
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: They wanted a bolt anyway, So these half time we're out.
- 1:07:38Speaker 4: Uh they left it halftime, Yeah, I mean we did notice.
- 1:07:42Speaker 4: I mean, but when when the game got really interesting.
- 1:07:46Speaker 4: Late there was a boy. The place was looked vacant.
- 1:07:49Speaker 4: I know it's a big old stadium.
- 1:07:50Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: Adam and Morgantown an hour and a half before kickoff
- 1:07:54Speaker 1: and met a very small resort in Montego Bade, Jamaica.
- 1:07:57Speaker 1: Two people at the pool wearing college gear. Wearing a
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: classy WVU tropical shirt of course, and the lady wearing
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: a really weird all white pit hat. I would be
- 1:08:07Speaker 1: rather writing in to tell you about running into my
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: capitol high school science teacher, but instead I'm stuck at
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: the pool with a pit fan. Sorry about that. First
- 1:08:16Speaker 1: quarter text here, I listened to Brad on spreads on stats,
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: saying keep an eye out for a first down interception.
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: I think we'll take a first down fumble recovery. Let's
- 1:08:26Speaker 1: go Mountain. Here in game text, thanks for someone, thanks
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: someone that we finally got one of the better big
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: twelve crews. Good lord, the quality spread on cruise is wide.
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: Let's go Navy. J Texter. My headstone, my head that
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: stone will stay. You only had two hours sleep, Tenny,
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: so I tased my headstone. Will say the mountaineers killed him.
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: Checked my pulse on the last third down of the game.
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: It was one sixty nine, signed by Jake from work. Yes,
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: he's cranking along there.
- 1:09:01Speaker 2: Yeah, it was pretty tense. Texter.
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: Hi, guys, I know it's said if you have two
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: starting quarterbacks, you don't have one, but I think we
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: have an exception Green elite at certain aspects, but there
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: are important areas where he struggles. At this point, he
- 1:09:15Speaker 1: is who he is. Mark Yole is an ascending player
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: who isn't yet elite anywhere though there are flashes, but
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: he isn't necessarily a liability anyway either. I think both
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: need to play situationally. Signed by Sean See you in Lubbock, Texter,
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: great win. Defense was bringing Lumber some really big hits
- 1:09:36Speaker 1: again halfway through the third quarter. Looked like play calling
- 1:09:40Speaker 1: was not to lose. Need to keep the cleats to
- 1:09:42Speaker 1: the turf anyway. Very proud of our staff and players.
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: I thought yesterday stood out for some of the more
- 1:09:50Speaker 1: physical hits of the season. Anthony Wilson was absolutely uncorking
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: old school Mountaineer football there right sending people back in
- 1:09:59Speaker 1: their track. He led the Mountaineers and tackles Texter Professor
- 1:10:07Speaker 1: Vinnie So I'm trying to be a happy heary instead
- 1:10:09Speaker 1: of a Debbie Downer. A wins a win and winning's hard.
- 1:10:11Speaker 1: West Virginia can't control the record of the teams they play,
- 1:10:14Speaker 1: but eventually they're going to have to beat a team
- 1:10:16Speaker 1: with a winning record.
- 1:10:17Speaker 3: Wins a win, wins a win. Not doing that because
- 1:10:20Speaker 3: Indiana no one's looking at their schedule. Iowa State, nobody's
- 1:10:23Speaker 3: looking at their schedule. They don't get to merit points
- 1:10:25Speaker 3: for playing bad schedule. It's not going to do that. Win,
- 1:10:27Speaker 3: win the games. Not going to have that discussion every
- 1:10:30Speaker 3: week after wins. Just not because here's the thing, though,
- 1:10:33Speaker 3: we could go through the losses and the records of
- 1:10:35Speaker 3: the teams you lost to, but nobody cares. Nobody seems
- 1:10:37Speaker 3: to care about that, right, So you just I'm not
- 1:10:39Speaker 3: going to do that with the teams you beat. Win
- 1:10:41Speaker 3: the game on the road, tough win. He just said
- 1:10:43Speaker 3: it tough to get wins, so.
- 1:10:45Speaker 1: You're probably not gonna like the next text. I just
- 1:10:47Speaker 1: can't get comfortable with this Neil Brown team. It seems
- 1:10:49Speaker 1: that we always find a way to make bad teams
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: look good. Arizona lost this game more than we won it.
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: Our secondary is easily exploitable and I haven't seen improvement
- 1:10:58Speaker 1: for them all year.
- 1:11:00Speaker 2: You know, I don't. I don't agree with that.
- 1:11:02Speaker 4: I just think that there Again, we've talked over and
- 1:11:04Speaker 4: over about the parody in this league, and when there
- 1:11:07Speaker 4: is parody, it often comes down to the team that
- 1:11:10Speaker 4: makes fewer mistakes and you force other teams to make mistakes.
- 1:11:13Speaker 4: To Brad, a number of times this season, several times
- 1:11:15Speaker 4: we say, okay, West Virginia, Uh, it was pretty even
- 1:11:18Speaker 4: on paper, but they made more mistakes. And this was
- 1:11:20Speaker 4: a game where West Virginia played pretty clean. The other
- 1:11:23Speaker 4: team made mistakes. That's what you get in the totality
- 1:11:25Speaker 4: of a season where there's a lot of parody. Yep,
- 1:11:32Speaker 4: you're not working with me here.
- 1:11:33Speaker 2: I mean that's keep going.
- 1:11:36Speaker 1: Has a situation. What on the plane? What happened going out?
- 1:11:41Speaker 2: What?
- 1:11:42Speaker 1: Get a tap in the air? Tap on my left shoulder?
- 1:11:46Speaker 1: Guy behind me taps me and here comes a really
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: super long slim gym being passed to me. Gives me,
- 1:11:56Speaker 1: he gives me. You know what he gave me. Gave
- 1:11:57Speaker 1: me the slim gym whip. Oh, he says, he says,
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: you want this fly ride, slim Joe? You know who
- 1:12:03Speaker 1: it was? Phil President of Goldmark. Was it really he
- 1:12:10Speaker 1: was on the trip. Yeah, Phil was there. Well, play
- 1:12:13Speaker 1: just just just trying to be in. I mean he knows,
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: I mean, he gets it. He I don't know, I
- 1:12:19Speaker 1: don't know if that was like a tlend, if he
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: if he snuck that on there or whatever, but I
- 1:12:24Speaker 1: mean it was. I mean, he he was like giving
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: that thing the fly rid whip.
- 1:12:28Speaker 2: So what do you think.
- 1:12:28Speaker 4: You're just sitting there calm while you're thinking about you're
- 1:12:30Speaker 4: probably game prep and here comes to slim gym.
- 1:12:32Speaker 1: Yeah. Well he had a lot of He had a
- 1:12:34Speaker 1: lot of nice things to say about Connection three or four.
- 1:12:37Speaker 1: You know they that they sell that there and distribution
- 1:12:39Speaker 1: continues to do. Yeah, they do. And uh, just a
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: reminder when you go to go Mark, get that rewards
- 1:12:45Speaker 1: card because you instantly save on food and fuel and
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: those triple reward points. And he's look at the calendar,
- 1:12:53Speaker 1: we're gonna run out of days, so thirty first, Uh,
- 1:12:56Speaker 1: just get your rewards card and save a ton. Yeah.
- 1:12:59Speaker 1: But Phil and I were talking and h talked a
- 1:13:02Speaker 1: little bit about Big Candy. You know that's gonna that's
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: taken over there, sure so well known, I asked him,
- 1:13:08Speaker 1: I said. His business seasonal at the gomart, he said,
- 1:13:13Speaker 1: not like he used to be. Not season Yeah, it's
- 1:13:15Speaker 1: like all the time now, pretty consistent, pretty consistent. They're
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: just selling stuff, Yeah, including the fly ride, sim slim gym,
- 1:13:22Speaker 1: the fifty two pounds bags of M and M's. I
- 1:13:25Speaker 1: don't know what location, but now I understand they got
- 1:13:27Speaker 1: a forklift. Excuse me, Yeah, because the eminem's are so big.
- 1:13:31Speaker 1: If you buy one of the big bags, they'll just
- 1:13:33Speaker 1: get a forklft driver. He just kind of takes it
- 1:13:35Speaker 1: from the front door and puts it in the back
- 1:13:36Speaker 1: of your back of your vehicle.
- 1:13:38Speaker 4: When in the mountain, your weight room, when they're doing squats. Yeah,
- 1:13:41Speaker 4: big thing, big thing. A peanut, he said.
- 1:13:43Speaker 3: The Connection three oh four selling well in the stores.
- 1:13:45Speaker 1: Yeah, he hasn't tasted it yet. What our buddy Ford,
- 1:13:49Speaker 1: You know, Ford works over there. Ford works over there
- 1:13:52Speaker 1: at the long time.
- 1:13:53Speaker 2: Going around for a long time.
- 1:13:54Speaker 1: So he Phil said, I was at tailgate last game
- 1:13:58Speaker 1: and Ford had some and he said, and he's having
- 1:14:01Speaker 1: He goes, this is great, But he didn't offer Phil one.
- 1:14:04Speaker 1: So Phil said, I'm still looking for one. And but
- 1:14:07Speaker 1: he said he was going to Parkersburg this weekend. So
- 1:14:09Speaker 1: he was just going to stop in there.
- 1:14:10Speaker 2: Parking to and he has the stores, I mean, yeah,
- 1:14:14Speaker 2: stop by one of his own stores.
- 1:14:15Speaker 1: Nice if one of his employees would offer him one.
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: I mean Ford slacking on that thing to keep it
- 1:14:20Speaker 1: from saying yeah, I mean apparently so, apparently so. And
- 1:14:25Speaker 1: those by the way, I also talked to Phil a
- 1:14:28Speaker 1: little bit. You know, there's there's a couple of a good,
- 1:14:29Speaker 1: good relationship there between the tutors folks and Gomart. Really yeah,
- 1:14:34Speaker 1: they got there's a little synergy there between them. And uh,
- 1:14:38Speaker 1: thanks again Hoppy for giving us a tutor's biscuit. Start
- 1:14:40Speaker 1: your day the homemade way with a tutor's biscuit. And
- 1:14:45Speaker 1: as I said, I'm proclaiming this as biscuit season. When
- 1:14:48Speaker 1: the leaves change, they just taste a little bit better.
- 1:14:50Speaker 1: I think I eat one in July. Well I'm not
- 1:14:53Speaker 1: saying it don't, but I just think they're taking one
- 1:14:55Speaker 1: down in July. More hardy, more hearty this time of year.
- 1:14:58Speaker 2: But went through the drive through there the one and
- 1:15:00Speaker 2: take a couple right out on the boat.
- 1:15:02Speaker 1: Which location did you go to?
- 1:15:04Speaker 2: No, not Sabord, And I always say it went to
- 1:15:06Speaker 2: Suncrest but where's the other one.
- 1:15:08Speaker 1: Well, that's way out of your way, though, I mean,
- 1:15:09Speaker 1: that's a big trip. That's a really dedication for you
- 1:15:11Speaker 1: to go all the way where you live out there
- 1:15:13Speaker 1: in that gated community, you go all the way across
- 1:15:16Speaker 1: town to come over there.
- 1:15:17Speaker 4: I told the security guard of my gator community that
- 1:15:20Speaker 4: I was leading. Well, I thought, you know, I don't
- 1:15:22Speaker 4: have to do I don't do it every week, but
- 1:15:23Speaker 4: just every now.
- 1:15:24Speaker 1: And then, start your day the homemade way with a
- 1:15:26Speaker 1: Tutor's biscuit, texter or justin. Is it me or did
- 1:15:30Speaker 1: it feel like the only time Arizona actually had success
- 1:15:34Speaker 1: was on some weird almost broken play. Despite the score,
- 1:15:37Speaker 1: it never really felt that close. I know they were
- 1:15:39Speaker 1: protecting an eighteen point leading the fourth, but it felt
- 1:15:41Speaker 1: like they should have let Nico throw it a bit
- 1:15:44Speaker 1: more happy to get the buye with a W. But
- 1:15:46Speaker 1: let me tell you something, the score didn't feel that close.
- 1:15:50Speaker 1: I don't know which game you were watching, because I've
- 1:15:52Speaker 1: seen that. I've seen that nightmare play out. Yeah, I'm
- 1:15:55Speaker 1: thinking no, no, no, no, no, no, that thing got
- 1:16:00Speaker 1: sketch eithery Brad.
- 1:16:01Speaker 2: How did how close did percent winning percentage get? You?
- 1:16:04Speaker 3: Were they were the first, Like within the first fifteen plays,
- 1:16:07Speaker 3: Arizona had had a slight advantage and then it just
- 1:16:10Speaker 3: it flipped the rest of the game. You were so
- 1:16:13Speaker 3: again from a game control standpoint, as I said earlier
- 1:16:15Speaker 3: in the show, game control, you have that the whole way.
- 1:16:18Speaker 3: It never varied a whole lot from there.
- 1:16:22Speaker 4: Not New fans are never They're never relieved until the
- 1:16:27Speaker 4: end of the game.
- 1:16:28Speaker 2: No, I mean, I get it. I mean I no,
- 1:16:31Speaker 2: I trust me, I get that, I feel that. I
- 1:16:33Speaker 2: hear you.
- 1:16:33Speaker 4: I gotta And because of the Pit Game too, I
- 1:16:35Speaker 4: got a test, I got a text during the game.
- 1:16:37Speaker 2: I hope this isn't like the Pit Game. No, I
- 1:16:40Speaker 2: get it. Yeah, I mean I don't. Yeah, And candidly, you.
- 1:16:44Speaker 4: Don't know if if Jalen Andrews had not caught that
- 1:16:49Speaker 4: ball and Arizona had gotten it back.
- 1:16:53Speaker 3: Put it this way, your postgame win expectancy graded out
- 1:16:56Speaker 3: at eighty percent. I mean, you're in control.
- 1:17:01Speaker 1: Were you surprised that the line went to five and
- 1:17:03Speaker 1: a half?
- 1:17:04Speaker 2: No injuries?
- 1:17:05Speaker 3: They were speculation on the Wyatt and Garrett. You could
- 1:17:07Speaker 3: see the line go from two and a half and
- 1:17:09Speaker 3: it kept creeping up all week.
- 1:17:11Speaker 4: Hey, Brad, did you look at PFF for the Arizona
- 1:17:16Speaker 4: how'd that left tackle do?
- 1:17:18Speaker 2: Whootin?
- 1:17:21Speaker 4: Because he was the guy that filled in for their
- 1:17:23Speaker 4: really good tackle and struggled the previous week.
- 1:17:26Speaker 1: They took the left and moved him to right.
- 1:17:28Speaker 2: Oh did they? They moved the right over to the left,
- 1:17:30Speaker 2: so he was at right tackle. Yeah, okay, he was
- 1:17:32Speaker 2: at right tackle.
- 1:17:34Speaker 1: Texter checking in tonight from Williamsburg, Virginia on behalf of
- 1:17:37Speaker 1: the P one listeners in the family of the late
- 1:17:40Speaker 1: great Johnny Olashuk. I had the honor of officiating my
- 1:17:44Speaker 1: cousin Amy's wedding. Tonight capped off with the ritual singing
- 1:17:48Speaker 1: of Country Roads. Timing could not have been better, as
- 1:17:50Speaker 1: the Mountaineers held on for the victory, giving us another
- 1:17:54Speaker 1: reason to belt out John Denver song. Here is my
- 1:17:56Speaker 1: always a West Virginia connection for two of tonight's stars.
- 1:18:00Speaker 1: My company's US offices in York, Pennsylvania. I've spent a
- 1:18:04Speaker 1: lot of time there in the last eight years. I
- 1:18:06Speaker 1: currently live in Chandler, Arizona, minutes from Hamilton High Probably
- 1:18:09Speaker 1: goes without saying I'd love to see both Jahem and
- 1:18:12Speaker 1: Nico play well tonight so that's where Nico finished his
- 1:18:15Speaker 1: career at Hamilton High School. Grateful for him outIn hear Win,
- 1:18:17Speaker 1: even more so, thankful for this rare weekend with family.
- 1:18:20Speaker 1: Special shout out to you guys. Ready for this picture
- 1:18:23Speaker 1: for the after party attire. Take a look at this
- 1:18:26Speaker 1: photo after party attire.
- 1:18:30Speaker 2: This is the part of the podcast where that picture
- 1:18:33Speaker 2: comes up of the after party. There's a picture of
- 1:18:36Speaker 2: a two to three people, two guys, one girl, the
- 1:18:39Speaker 2: girls wearing pajamas, the guys wearing an efforting T shirt,
- 1:18:43Speaker 2: and apparently there's a picture of three guys that picture.
- 1:18:47Speaker 2: That picture is unavailable at this moment. We haven't gone
- 1:18:50Speaker 2: to Photo Matt to pick it up yet.
- 1:18:52Speaker 1: Signed by Brian and Chandler, by the way of Weirton.
- 1:18:57Speaker 1: That's my fault, by the way, because I didn't put
- 1:18:58Speaker 1: pick on the text.
- 1:19:00Speaker 2: Okay, there it is there, It is there.
- 1:19:02Speaker 1: I look at that.
- 1:19:03Speaker 2: She got pajamazon, he's got effort. Ryan's out there, very good.
- 1:19:07Speaker 2: So they just got married.
- 1:19:08Speaker 1: He did the ceremony. Guy in the middle did the ceremony. Nice.
- 1:19:11Speaker 1: They're saying country roads when it was done.
- 1:19:14Speaker 2: PS.
- 1:19:14Speaker 1: My cousin's last name is Clark, so Clark bars were
- 1:19:20Speaker 1: handed out as the wedding favors. Plenty left over, so
- 1:19:23Speaker 1: I'll make sure my mom dona O dropped some of
- 1:19:25Speaker 1: those at the scores table for scopes and spreads upcoming
- 1:19:27Speaker 1: hoops game TB D. If any make it back.
- 1:19:30Speaker 2: For Hoppy, hmm yeah, probably not, Probably not.
- 1:19:33Speaker 1: Probably not. Hoppy is just a big Oh. Hoppy's just
- 1:19:36Speaker 1: a biscuit mule, that's all.
- 1:19:40Speaker 3: Hey, haven't had a Clark bar in a while.
- 1:19:42Speaker 1: They're really good. Clark bars are X. I'm probably underrated,
- 1:19:46Speaker 1: kind of like Ginger Ale, very underrated. Is underrated Ginger.
- 1:19:50Speaker 4: Might Ginger Ale? Or seven up Ginger Ale? Yeah, I
- 1:19:56Speaker 4: was Ginger was seven up? Yeah, depends.
- 1:20:02Speaker 1: All right, that'll do it for us.
- 1:20:03Speaker 2: What's our schedule we work it next week.
- 1:20:05Speaker 1: Yeah, what we're gonna do We.
- 1:20:07Speaker 3: Just do shows, hop show Thursday, We got show, we
- 1:20:08Speaker 3: got shows.
- 1:20:09Speaker 1: This is what we're doing on Thursday. Since the Mountaineers
- 1:20:12Speaker 1: don't play, We're gonna do a preview of West Virginia's
- 1:20:16Speaker 1: basketball season and it's opening game against the Colonials of
- 1:20:20Speaker 1: Robert Morris. We'll do that show Thursday, and then what
- 1:20:23Speaker 1: we'll do the following week is we'll play the basketball
- 1:20:26Speaker 1: game on Tuesday or Monday, and we'll come back on
- 1:20:30Speaker 1: Tuesday and we'll recap the first basketball game.
- 1:20:33Speaker 2: You do know that's election day.
- 1:20:36Speaker 1: Well you might not be here, but we will.
- 1:20:38Speaker 3: It's also basketball season.
- 1:20:40Speaker 2: Well wow, oh, boy's been a little bit edgie over
- 1:20:47Speaker 2: there today. Wow, it's like caravel.
- 1:20:48Speaker 1: Man, give you a biscuit. You think be a little
- 1:20:50Speaker 1: nicer doing that?
- 1:20:51Speaker 2: Won't been ridded.
- 1:20:52Speaker 3: It's basketball season, and it's true.
- 1:20:53Speaker 1: We got to move on, Hoppy.
- 1:20:54Speaker 3: We're not coming in here analyzing the Yeah, congressional race.
- 1:20:58Speaker 3: You may be coming in here doing the council in
- 1:21:00Speaker 3: Work County. We're just gonna come into basketball basketball.
- 1:21:04Speaker 2: I mean, you go do what you do.
- 1:21:05Speaker 3: We'll do what we do. It's basketball season.
- 1:21:07Speaker 1: Women's women's basketball opens up. Their first regular season game
- 1:21:10Speaker 1: is on election night Tuesday. All right, anyway, that's what
- 1:21:14Speaker 1: we're gonna be Thursday. Just you'll be here. Sign up subscribing,
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- 1:21:53Speaker 1: value beyond numbers. That'll do it for us. Off week
- 1:21:57Speaker 1: for the Mountaineer footballers, getting close to the start of basketball,
- 1:22:02Speaker 1: and we will be back checking in for hop Bread
- 1:22:08Speaker 1: and producer Ethan.
- 1:22:10Speaker 2: See you