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Doug Marrone Show: July 26 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: This is the Doug Moron Show. The Moron Show, Former
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  Speaker 1: Jaguar Jeff Loghman and J P. Shadrick discussed the latest
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: Jaguars news with the head coach. The Doug Moron Show
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  Speaker 1: starts right now. Welcome in for the first time in teen,
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  Speaker 1: The Doug Moron Show on the Jaguars Radio Network. JP Shadrick,
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Lockman and head coach Doug Maron. Happy New Year, Doug. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: it is a new year. Happy new year. Ye. Happy
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  Speaker 1: new camp, new camp exactly. This is fun right first
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  Speaker 1: day out of the field today, and you know, the
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  Speaker 1: build up to it is is now over. You're on
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  Speaker 1: the field. It's not quite padded practice yet we get that.
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  Speaker 1: We know how you love the padded practices and that's
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  Speaker 1: when you really tell a difference. But being back on
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  Speaker 1: the grass today, that's step one. Yeah, it is. It's
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  Speaker 1: step one. And I think you know, from from our standpoint,
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  Speaker 1: me and the coaches and the players, I think you
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  Speaker 1: go out and you you know, you have this period
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  Speaker 1: of time where you're off and you go ahead and
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  Speaker 1: train and you know, and then you're like, okay, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I picture that I'm gonna go out on
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  Speaker 1: the field, and I'm gonna feel this way, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: play this way. I'm gonna do that. And then you
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  Speaker 1: go out there in at first practice and you start
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  Speaker 1: to realize, wow, you know, you realize you have there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of work that needs to be put in
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  Speaker 1: before we get to that vision of where we want
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  Speaker 1: to be. And I think, you know, that's the one
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  Speaker 1: thing I think that's just kind of hit you in
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  Speaker 1: the face, you know, and during that first day, and
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  Speaker 1: it's it's gonna take a while, you know, to walk
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  Speaker 1: off that field. It's gonna take a lot of practices,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of hard work before you walk off that
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  Speaker 1: field and say, hey, listen, I think we're ready to go.
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  Speaker 1: I remember as a player, and I maybe it's the
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  Speaker 1: same for you when you were a player, and maybe
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  Speaker 1: as a coach. But I just remember, once you got
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  Speaker 1: past the fourth of July, and I'm kind of taking
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  Speaker 1: you back a little bit, but once you get once
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  Speaker 1: the fourth of July passed, the anxiety and the anticipation
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  Speaker 1: for training camp started, and mentally you really weren't able
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  Speaker 1: to detach because you were already getting kind of primed
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  Speaker 1: and ready, at least mentally for training camp. Apps. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I agree with that. I mean, you know, when you
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  Speaker 1: think of it as you know, you know back in
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  Speaker 1: the day when you have forty something days of doubles
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  Speaker 1: and um, you know, I was I was explained to
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  Speaker 1: the players that you you know you you have that
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  Speaker 1: going on and or in the press conference the other day,
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  Speaker 1: I was telling the reporters, I said, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden you realize, you know, your body
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  Speaker 1: at some point doesn't doesn't want to do it. And
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  Speaker 1: and it's purely a mind game, you know where you're
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  Speaker 1: you know you you and I think what you're you're
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  Speaker 1: talking about, Jeff, is training your mind to be prepared
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  Speaker 1: for the physicality or the strenuous the stress you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: put on your body. And if your mind is not,
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  Speaker 1: you know, stronger than your body, then then you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be in trouble. It's gonna be tough to make it
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  Speaker 1: during this camp, this type of camp that we're in
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  Speaker 1: in a new collective bargain agreement. And and it's no
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  Speaker 1: disrespect to the players that are that are practicing now.
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  Speaker 1: I just have a hard time, you know, when people
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  Speaker 1: say it's tough, where it's grueling or anything of of
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  Speaker 1: admitting that, and I think a lot of the ex
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  Speaker 1: players do. And um, I think the players today should
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  Speaker 1: should be able to appreciate that, and um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: hopefully they're doing everything they have to do today are
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  Speaker 1: still gonna say, Man, this is so hard. You gotta
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  Speaker 1: back off a little bit. We're getting getting fatigued, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But as you said the other day, coach, I mean
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  Speaker 1: you you like that kind of grumbling That means you're
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  Speaker 1: you're probably doing things the right way. If guys are
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  Speaker 1: grumbling at you, I think so. I mean, haven't been
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  Speaker 1: you know, like like Jeff was talking about, haven't been
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  Speaker 1: on kind of both sides of the fence, you know. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know you grumble. There's a little bit of grumbling.
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  Speaker 1: But somewhere along the line, I think, you know, even
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  Speaker 1: even when when I was a player and I was
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  Speaker 1: grumbling about gosh, I don't know, you know this next part.
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  Speaker 1: You know, here we go again. It's whatever straight day
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  Speaker 1: of you know, contact or hitting. You know, I think,
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  Speaker 1: deep in my heart though I realized that that's what
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  Speaker 1: we needed to do to get better. And you know that.
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  Speaker 1: But uh, like I said before, I think that if
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  Speaker 1: you don't hear a little grumbling. That's where I as
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  Speaker 1: a coach, I started to get a little worried. What
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  Speaker 1: was the toughest camp you were in as a player?
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  Speaker 1: I mean we went, I mean it was we always
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  Speaker 1: had off on Sunday, but it was six straight days.
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  Speaker 1: It was in the heat. Uh. We we we practiced
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  Speaker 1: in the you know, basically the run game in the morning,
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  Speaker 1: which is a longer practice, and then we always ran
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  Speaker 1: gassers um after the morning practice. In the afternoon practice
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  Speaker 1: it was a little bit shorter. It was more more
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  Speaker 1: past and um, you know it was it was tough
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  Speaker 1: because usually it had rained, so it's basically like an
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  Speaker 1: a sauna. Uh. You know that you were practicing and
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  Speaker 1: then you know you met at night and then you
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  Speaker 1: know you had walked through you know, late at night.
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  Speaker 1: So um, and it was just it was it was
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  Speaker 1: just a daily grind. I remember, you know, my roommate
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  Speaker 1: and I wed post would post the calendar and I'll
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  Speaker 1: never forget the first time. And when we get through
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  Speaker 1: one practice, we take a little slash and slashed the
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  Speaker 1: line and go and then you know we had a
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  Speaker 1: little we had a little bit more time in between,
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  Speaker 1: you know where you can rest and then all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden, we get to the second one and slash
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  Speaker 1: slash the line and we had a roster, you know,
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  Speaker 1: on on the wall, and as people back then, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I mean people would leave like you'd wake up the
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  Speaker 1: next day and they're like, what he's gone, you know,
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  Speaker 1: not cut, just gone, like like a navy seal ringing
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  Speaker 1: the bell, like he's gone. We would go over to
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  Speaker 1: the roster and we would go ahead and say he's gone.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he's gone. And then you know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we might have a beer and tip a beer to
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  Speaker 1: a woman and say, hey, I wish him luck. Wait, man,
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  Speaker 1: you're not allowed to drink beer. And training camp. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: back in the day, you know that it was a
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  Speaker 1: little bit different. Oh so bringing back a lot of
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if Doug remembers this, because I mean
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  Speaker 1: when when when dougals at the Jets, were you guys
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  Speaker 1: ever were you ever at Hofstra? We were at Okay,
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  Speaker 1: there was there was a bar that was literally like
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  Speaker 1: right across the street, Okay from Hofstra University. And so
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  Speaker 1: when when the Jets had a camp you were how
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  Speaker 1: was don Hofster University's campus training camp was there as well?
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  Speaker 1: And I don't even remember the name of it. I
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  Speaker 1: mean it was just you know, some rundown bar that
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  Speaker 1: was really you would leave the the Hofster campus gate
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  Speaker 1: and take a left and it's right there, and so
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  Speaker 1: like that, that short window from dinner to meeting, and
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  Speaker 1: you had, you know, maybe forty five minutes that bar.
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  Speaker 1: That bartender was working fast. They were working. They had
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  Speaker 1: the players Bar, and then they had a Coach's bar,
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  Speaker 1: which was like a block down the street. Letting how
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  Speaker 1: times changed for sure. Hey, yeah, what you do the summer, Doug,
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  Speaker 1: Were you around town? Yeah? I was. I was. I
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  Speaker 1: was around a little bit earlier. Right off the bat,
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  Speaker 1: I had to go out and do a couple of
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  Speaker 1: uh speaking engagements, some some military commitments that I had
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  Speaker 1: made uh up in uh New York and upstate New York.
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  Speaker 1: Uh So I did that, and then, um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: basically came back down here for a little bit, and
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  Speaker 1: then you know, spend a little time in um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the farm and in the lakehouse with the family, and
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  Speaker 1: then you know, came back early and started to get
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  Speaker 1: yourself already. It's it's hard, just kind of like what
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  Speaker 1: Jeff said, you know, what's difficult is Uh, you're at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the year and you know the players
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  Speaker 1: are getting ready to leave. You're an o t as
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  Speaker 1: in the mandatory minicamp, and you know, for me, the
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  Speaker 1: the anxiety is filling out the schedules every day from
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  Speaker 1: you know, training camp all the way to the end
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  Speaker 1: of the season. You know, getting that done. So that's
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  Speaker 1: that's like a kind of priority, and that's what keeps
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  Speaker 1: you focused. And then after that it's you know, reconnecting
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  Speaker 1: with the family and being back in kind of a
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  Speaker 1: normal family setting. But it it turns around quick. It's
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  Speaker 1: like I was, I was talking over the coaches last
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  Speaker 1: night and I was telling them, I said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's funny because then all of a sudden, you start
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  Speaker 1: thinking about that first meeting, you know, to set the
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  Speaker 1: tone of what you want to get done and what
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  Speaker 1: you want to get accomplished, and that pretty much, you know,
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  Speaker 1: takes up a lot of your summer where you're thinking
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  Speaker 1: about it, thinking about it, making notes, changing themes, changing
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  Speaker 1: what you want to do, thoughts of the day for
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  Speaker 1: the one meeting, because you don't even think about the
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  Speaker 1: second meeting, Like do you know what I'm saying. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's set up. I mean it is, but the
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  Speaker 1: the amount of time you spend on that first meeting,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when the players come back, Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you spend you know, quite a bit of time. The
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  Speaker 1: other stuff is to me, is is a little bit easier.
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  Speaker 1: You know. Here's how we're practice and X amount of
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  Speaker 1: reps we self scout make sure, Hey we didn't do
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  Speaker 1: well in this category. We're gonna do more of these reps,
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  Speaker 1: you know, to to make sure that we can do
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  Speaker 1: a better job of training to players. You know, those
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  Speaker 1: things are easy because you can see those things on paper.
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  Speaker 1: We'll come back and get onto the field today. Your
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  Speaker 1: right now. We're back. J P. Shadrick, Jeff laghaman head
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  Speaker 1: coach Doug maron the Doug Moron Show Training Camp underway
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  Speaker 1: on the field today. Let's let's start on offense. UM.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we heard from Blake Bortles after practice today
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  Speaker 1: and it's it had that feeling in in the spring
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  Speaker 1: and during O t A. Is that you know, he's
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  Speaker 1: already he's just signed the contract extension. Um. He just
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  Speaker 1: seems confident and deep into this playbook and it's his
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  Speaker 1: football team. It seems like, is that Is that an
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  Speaker 1: accurate feeling on your partner? What do you say? You know,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's tough for me. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's better when the players are able to talk about
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  Speaker 1: that or feel about that. I can tell you what
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  Speaker 1: I see from a coaching perspective. You know, I see
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  Speaker 1: someone that's you know that he that he's he's been
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  Speaker 1: in the system now and and he and he's more
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  Speaker 1: comfortable with it. And when I say comfortable with it,
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  Speaker 1: it means knowing it to point now where where we've
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  Speaker 1: got to take this next step, you know, and we've
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  Speaker 1: got to take this next step, whether it be you know,
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  Speaker 1: situational football, third down, two minute, whatever it is. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, those are the things that I've seen Blake
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  Speaker 1: working extremely hard on, you know, to make sure that
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  Speaker 1: he can make that next step. So he'd been putting
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  Speaker 1: in the work and um, you know he came out
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  Speaker 1: there today. He had a good offseason. Um, so again,
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  Speaker 1: it's just you know, that daily basis of making sure
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  Speaker 1: that you can see you know, I think last year,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when we were playing during the course of
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  Speaker 1: the season, I think a lot of our fans, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people, they can see some of the great
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  Speaker 1: strides you know that we made offensively, defensively, special team wise,
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  Speaker 1: you know, obviously during the course of the season. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I think now we've got to understand that every every
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  Speaker 1: day We've got to we've got to recognize these little games,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, that we're making in different
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  Speaker 1: areas and and not lose sight of that and correct
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  Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. But there was there was a
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  Speaker 1: point in practice today and Blake throws and I'm my
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  Speaker 1: terminology might be off, but you know, I'm a defensive guy, okay,
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  Speaker 1: But as a post deep route, Blake frozen and Nathaniel
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  Speaker 1: Hackett comes up and running does like, you know, a
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  Speaker 1: chess bump with him. With the excitement level, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that had to be one of those moments were like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's what we've been looking for. It's good. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know it was it was a split safety look
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  Speaker 1: that the opposite field safety got caught being coming down
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  Speaker 1: a little bit, so there's really no one in the middle.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it was Marquise Lee that took the post,
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  Speaker 1: you know, to the middle of the field and he
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  Speaker 1: was able to throw it. You know, those things are good.
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  Speaker 1: It means hey, listen, he was able to see the
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  Speaker 1: cover and see what was going on, and we're able
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  Speaker 1: to you know, push the ball vertically down the field
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  Speaker 1: and and and those are the things that you're looking for,
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  Speaker 1: and you're looking forward at a consistent basis where you
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  Speaker 1: can do that every time and you have the confidence
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  Speaker 1: to do it every time. So you know, just because
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  Speaker 1: at least when I look at things, because you do
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  Speaker 1: it once, you know, it's not one of those things
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  Speaker 1: like you can take it for granted that now whole
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  Speaker 1: if that shows in the game and the next time
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  Speaker 1: that's gonna happen, you know, when it happens the next time,
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  Speaker 1: let's see if he goes to it again and again
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  Speaker 1: and again, that coverage and you keep working on that
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  Speaker 1: and then because when the game's come, I think things
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  Speaker 1: go obviously quite faster, you know, um everything, speed it up,
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  Speaker 1: and that's what we're always trying to do in practice,
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  Speaker 1: make it as as much as a game as we
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  Speaker 1: possibly can. So this way, you know, when we go
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  Speaker 1: out there and play, it makes it a lot easier.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of confidence, uh, you know, listening to Telvin Smith
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  Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the confidence that he has
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  Speaker 1: not only in the defense but the team in general,
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  Speaker 1: and is is that a good thing? Or is that
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  Speaker 1: as a as a coach? You know, you do you go, hey, guys,
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  Speaker 1: let's just kind of slow down a little bit here,
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  Speaker 1: Let's just worry about today and then everything else will
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  Speaker 1: take care of itself. Well, I can't again again, I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to speak for Telvin or the players, but
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  Speaker 1: what I look at is that you know, you you know,
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  Speaker 1: there was a level of of success, you know, as
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  Speaker 1: far as you know what you feel, and it was
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  Speaker 1: a level of confidence. But again, it goes back to
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  Speaker 1: last year, and I think that you know, that's something
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  Speaker 1: that was during training camp, you know, and that was
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  Speaker 1: established during the season, you know, weekend and week out.
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  Speaker 1: So a lot of times the players will reference that
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  Speaker 1: going back to the left, you know, the previous season.
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  Speaker 1: What I've tried to tell him is, hey, listen, we
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  Speaker 1: have to focus on two and eighteen and focus on
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• 18:36
  Speaker 1: of training camp and the Pads go on Saturday Night.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: I guess the only the only player missing right now
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: is Jale Ramsey. Right, He's gonna be back at some
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: point very soon. They just had the baby, right, congratulations
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: to him, no doubt about that, any any new update
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: on when he might be back or just no. I
• 18:52
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  Speaker 1: especially camp. You know, it's you know, for us as coaches,
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  Speaker 1: we understand that we're gonna we're pretty much in a
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  Speaker 1: for the players the camp, you know, they want to
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  Speaker 1: make sure at least I believe that you want to
• 19:17
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• 19:21
  Speaker 1: can come in here with a clear mind and be
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: able to um compete and and and be focused. Did
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  Speaker 1: I hear that you went out there to where he
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: trains at in Tennessee and and pay him a visit? Yeah,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I was. I was up there, and that his dad
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: does a really good job, um, you know training. You know,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: a bunch of different types of athletes from you know,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: youth you know, real young kids, to the high school
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: kids to the kids are getting ready for college. Uh.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: During that dead period too, you know, a couple of
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: guys in in the NFL. So you know, I went
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: down there and I ended up being able to speak
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  Speaker 1: to the youth group, which is you know, really literally
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: twenty minutes you know from from where I live, you know,
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  Speaker 1: in Tennessee when I'm up there. So you know, for me,
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  Speaker 1: it was it was a great opportunity to get there
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: and and support. Um, you know Jalen's dad's uh you
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: know foundation or you know group that he runs, and UM,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: I was really impressed, uh with the work ethic. And
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: it's easy to see why, Um, you know Jalen so
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: competitive and the way he is because you know, his
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: dad does an outstanding job. Let's let's get into this
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: defensive bit more here. It's a it's a big year
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: for Miles Jack, you know, moving the middle full time
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: because Lesnie's out of here now. Um, you know he
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: didn't get the Pro Bowl last year, but he took
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: a step up. He was moving around earlier in the season.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: What do you make a mile so far this offseason
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: with with pause, Lesnie out around and uh, first day
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: out today, I mean, you know he's gonna run around
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: and look pretty good on the grass. Yeah, I think
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: you're right. I think he came out there and he
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: looked he looked good. We were, you know, I tended
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: to be a little bit cautious with him and um,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: you know the minicamp. You know, he was able to go,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: but you know, I just wanted to make sure, you know,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: just to keep him going in the direction that he was.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: And you know, he came out there and he looked good.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: I thought that he played extremely well for us last
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: year and you can see the talent you know that
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: he has, so um, you know, we're expecting great things
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  Speaker 1: from him. He's you know, going to put the work
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: in obviously, and we expect him to play well for us. Yeah,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: there's there's not a whole lot of questions that a
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: lot of national people or even even us as local
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: people would have about about this defense of one of
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: them is Okay, who how's the transition for Miles gonna
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: work out? You know, who's gonna play the strong side linebacker?
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Even though it's a limited number of snaff because the
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: amount of nickel the defense is play and then the
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: other one is who's gonna be the nickel? And you
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: sign a guy in the off season who's got an
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: opportunity to to compete there, But as are there other
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: people in the mix to compete for that nickel position. Sure,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: we're gonna look at a couple of guys as as
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: camp goes on to see, you know, that that nickel position,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: because we have to be ready to finding out, you know,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: who the third corner is. You know, obviously we signed
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: DJ in the in the off season and you know,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: thinking he could come in here and play the nickel,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: but he has to go in there and earn it
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: like everyone you know has to do on on the
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: roster because you know, someone asked me today about you know, well,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: hey this this guy's a backup, you know, and I said,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: I can't. I can't talk about that because I don't
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: view anyone right now as a as a backup. You know,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: I view everyone right now, like I tell the coaches,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: you coach everyone like they had a starter, you know,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: because you really don't know what's gonna happen, you know,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: whether it become injuries or competition or someone gets beat
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: out and and you and as a player, I think
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: you don't want that type of attitude, you know, to
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: think that well, you know, hey, I'll be the backup
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: and I'll do that, because then you're not gonna get
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: the most out of him as a player. You want
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: the designation t b D to be determined. Yeah. Absolutely,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Let's go out there and compete, and let's see who
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: the best player is for the job. I mean, you know,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: that's why I always laugh and they you know, you know,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: what's the starting line up? Put listen, we don't have
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: a starting we're not playing, you know. You know, now
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: we have people they're gonna go out there and who's
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: gonna take the reps? You know, and you've earned those
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: reps somewhere somehow from what you've done, But you also
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: can lose those reps. And I think that's why a
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: lot of Jenning training camp, I'll say, you know, let's
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: move some guys around, let's let's let's you know, look
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: at some guys in different positions and do those things
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: just to make sure that, um, you know, you're doing
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: the best thing, the best job you can for the team,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: and you're putting the players in the best position. That's
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: the UH and and reps can change too. I mean,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: as you said, you might get the most reps now,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: but you're gonna move guys in and out throughout camp
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: in different positions. You've mentioned today on the offensive line
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: that somebody asked you about the right guard position. You're
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: gonna throw guys in there that might not have a
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: lot of right guard just to see if they can
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: play it. Yeah, I mean that's whatever. A lot of
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: other positions could be like that. Yeah, I think I
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: think there's there's a lot of history in this league
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: of of uh you know, people being moved, you know,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: not not nothing drastic, like from offense to defense, even
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: though I've been a part of a defensive linement that
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: became an offensive linement in one of the playing about
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: twelve with thirteen Years and the own Brandon More with
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  Speaker 1: the New York Jets. But you know, I've been and
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: I've been through a lot of transition where you know,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: defensive ends moved into inside you know, and nickel and
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: things of that nature, or tackles moved to guard or
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: guards even moved out you know, um, you know, corners
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: that I've gotten big went to safety you know for
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: the man and man covers. So there's a there's a
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: lot of things that you know that you can do,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: and that's what that's what we're trying to accomplish. You know,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: it's so early now and we haven't evaluate any evaluate
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: evaluating anyone really from a physical standpoint, meaning you know,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: are they are they gonna come up, are they going
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: to tackle? Can they bring someone down? Things of that nature. Um,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: you don't see that until the paths come on. So
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: I you know, I try to make sure I don't get,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: like I said before, too high or too low. And
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: I'm seeing everything um in the in the proper perspective.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: One of the one of the position groups that I
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: think it's it's it's good for me anyway. It's gonna
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: be fun to watch and see how things work out
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: or or to be determined. And that's the wide receiver group. Uh,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys. There's none HER's there. One
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: of the guys that newly signed Dante Moncrief. Today he
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: had a catch that was going across the field and
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: traffic that showed his his catch range and and he
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: showed a speed on a deep ball at one point,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's gonna be a very interesting group for
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: not only for for me to watch, but I'm sure
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: as coaches and evaluators for you guys to watch. Yeah,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I think I think it's it's a room where you'd
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: like to have, uh, every position group kind of how
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: it's set up at like the wide receiver room, meaning
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: that you know, there are a lot of good players
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: in that room that that that are constantly fighting. And
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: I mean there's a ton of competition in that room
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: and there's a lot of players that can play you know,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: all three positions. You know, which is important because um,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: you know that'll that will get you reps you know
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: in practice. So it's gonna be interesting, Um you know
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: how that that shakes out during the course of this camp.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: But you know, it's one that's one where the coach
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: you're like, I'm not really worried because there's so much
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: competition there. It's gonna rise to the top. You know,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: all these players you know or there there's a lot
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: of good football players. We can play with a lot
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: of these receivers. You know, who's going to go out
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: there and and and and really just take it and
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: and that's what you know, that's what we'll look for,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: you know, during this these days of camp. All right, Doug,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: what time did you get here today? And what time
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: do you leave tonight? What's the schedule in the morning.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: I just stay here, you just stay here in the Yeah,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: guys are like one of the coach was like, what
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: are you're telling me? You can't just go five minutes
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: down to the hotel. I'm like, you know, sometimes I'll
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: wake up. It would be like two it's you know,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: and you can't go back to sleep or you can't.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: So now, if I wake up, if I sleep right through,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: it's great, you know, I wake up, I feel great.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: But if I wake up in the middle of the
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: night and you know, I want to, you know, look
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: at a tape or write something down, like I'm right there.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: So I gotta have everything I need and no one
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: should feel I don't want anyone to feel like, oh
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: my gosh, you know, yeah, I mean, what is everything
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: you need? I got an extra extra white couch. I
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: got a pillow in a blanket. Gotta blow up if
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: you know, blow up mattress if I wanted it. Uh,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: the bathrooms extremely close to where my office is. I
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: got a shower. Um, we have food, we have drinks,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: we have you know. I mean there's there's nothing that
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: I have everything I need. That's it. And I have
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: a film and I have the practice tape, and I
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: have the roster and you know in my office. So
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: you know it's um, I love it. I I do.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: You talked about that today. But the difference of camp
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: as a player in camp as a coach. Yeah, when
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: I was a player, I hated it. I just told
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: him the truth. I mean, you know they don't I
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: don't know. I mean if a player goes all I
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: love And I said, now, there were a lot of
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: guys that had young kids that used to like camp.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, you know. And I remember when you know,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: on Saturdays for home games. I remember, um, the team
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: I was at, I was coaching one of the veteran
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: players I was coaching, and say, you know, they had
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: checking at the hotel, like after three we had meetings
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: that started like six thirty or seven. And one of
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: the veterans was like, coach, you think you could ask
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: coach so and so if we can check in a
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: little earlier. I said, what what are you talking about?
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: He's like, coach, man I got these two young kids
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: now to wear me out. That tells his wife, I
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: gotta be a hotel. Yeah, I gotta be at the
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: hotel one right exactly. But um yeah. And then as
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: a coach, you like it because you know everyone's together. Um,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: you know, you're working football from you know really you know,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: seven o'clock in the morning, we're starting until you know,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: eight fifty nine o'clock at night. You know, it's a
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: full day. It's a lot on everyone's plate. And um,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: you know you're just coaching football and you're trying to
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: get a team, you know, prepared for a season. How
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: far how far do you maintain kind of that that
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: camp you know football you know mentality? You know through
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: training camp. You know a lot of times it's or
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: through the preseason would be the proper way to ask it.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: But that training camp mentality, does it go to all
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: the way to the third preseason game or is it
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: one of those things where you know what we kind
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: of planned it out here, but we're gonna be fluid. No.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I I like to go as as long as I
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: possibly can, um, you know, with with training camp, because
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: it's the only time that you really can all be together.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: It's the only time that you're really um. You have
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: a lot of time with the players making sure that
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: they understand it, and you have to put the work in.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: So a lot of teams are most teams, you know,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: they'll break prior to the third preseason game and try
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: to set the schedule for the season with the third
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: preseason game. You know, I'll try to set the schedule
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: practice wise with the third preseason game, but I still
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: keep us in camp mode, you know what I'm saying
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: at night, And then after the third preseason game, that's
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: when I usually break camp. All right, Doug, have a
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  Speaker 1: good one and day two tomorrow on the field. Yes,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: another opportunity to get better. Another scorture maybe as well.
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  Speaker 1: I said, no, it's it's perfect for me. It looks
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  Speaker 1: the night, and overnight for Doug Moron apparently, who stays
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  Speaker 1: here in the building. Yeah, you know interesting. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's been some coaches that have had that legendary, you know,
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  Speaker 1: And uh, Doug appears to be one of those guys.
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  Speaker 1: time needed to be spending the office. And so but
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  Speaker 1: you know, every guy accomplishes uh their objectives as a
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  Speaker 1: him if that's what he wants to do. Joe Fortunado
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  Speaker 1: he claims to be a grinder and uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean for what he's doing, and not
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  Speaker 1: free entry. Um, let's talk tight ends here. You know,
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  Speaker 1: The last you know, a few weeks in the off
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  Speaker 1: season or so, and you think about the position history
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  Speaker 1: for the Jaguars, They've basically been two starting tight ends
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  Speaker 1: in team history. Yeah, Kyle Brady and Mercedes Lewis, and
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  Speaker 1: they're gone. I mean, there's been other guys, right, but
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  Speaker 1: those have been the two key tight ends for this franchise.
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  Speaker 1: Pete Mitchell going back in the day. I mean, there's
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  Speaker 1: been other guys, but they've been the main stage. They're
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  Speaker 1: out of here in Green Bay. By the way. They
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  Speaker 1: got the guys that are coming back from last year,
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  Speaker 1: James Shaughnessy and Ben Koyak. Everybody else is is new
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  Speaker 1: on this team. Yes, Austin Seferian Jenkins got Arned Duff.
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  Speaker 1: David Grinnage I think has been around but hasn't been
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: on the Actor Farr and Jenkins as a free agent.
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  Speaker 1: He had. He caught a lot of balls last year
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  Speaker 1: for the Jets, and and they're kind of expecting him
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  Speaker 1: to be, you know, that inline blocker as well as, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, be a little bit more of a receiving
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  Speaker 1: threat on a consistent basis. That's the one thing that
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  Speaker 1: Marcedes I think lacked. Um. He made some really nice plays,
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  Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, to have a big game in London,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: but then it would be a quiet three or four
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: weeks after that, you know, so and I you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's one play I think that I think that they
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  Speaker 1: will certainly used utilize with Sparrin Jenkins skills, and that's
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  Speaker 1: the tight end screen, which they try to utilize with Marcedes,
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  Speaker 1: but Marcedes not quite as agile, I think as as
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  Speaker 1: Austin is, so so that that should be nice to watch.
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  Speaker 1: I think Koyak, in fact, we were talking with Hacker
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  Speaker 1: about this a little bit earlier today when I was
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  Speaker 1: on the field, and uh Kayak, I think is uh
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  Speaker 1: is gonna make this football team because he's a good blocker. Now,
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  Speaker 1: he's dependable, He's got a kind of got a nice
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  Speaker 1: skill set of all around skills. I don't think he
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  Speaker 1: has he has stood out in any one category, but
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  Speaker 1: made himself into a better player. His rookie year, I
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  Speaker 1: was kind of underwhelmed, and I thought that he took
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  Speaker 1: a big step up last year, and which was nice
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  Speaker 1: to see the next one, because you know, you're talking
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  Speaker 1: about a numbers game with tight end how many would
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  Speaker 1: they keep, you know, for the regular season, and you
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  Speaker 1: figure they're gonna keep a full back and whether that's
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  Speaker 1: Tommy Bohannon or somebody else, and so that the number
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  Speaker 1: of tight ends might be three, maybe four. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it depends on the wide receiver group, you know. So
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  Speaker 1: if you're if you're looking at at three or four,
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  Speaker 1: who who might those three or four be? Uh? I
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  Speaker 1: think that obviously Jenks Austin Safarian Jenkins is lock. I
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  Speaker 1: think that Ben Koyak is gonna make this football team.
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  Speaker 1: I think that you've got two guys that are kind
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  Speaker 1: of similar skill set, James O'Shaughnessy and Niles Paul. When
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: I see similar skill set as far as heightweight and
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  Speaker 1: type of tight end they would be because they're like
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  Speaker 1: a move tight end. Niles Paul is more of a
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  Speaker 1: Shaughnessy is a good special teams player. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: that he would be at the level of a Niles Paul.
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  Speaker 1: So so you could make you could make it, you
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  Speaker 1: could make a case that they will keep four because
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• 44:08
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  Speaker 1: you gotta keep Jaden Nickins and now you're looking at
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  Speaker 1: keeping six wide receivers, you know, so you know that
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  Speaker 1: that it's a numbers game. It's always kind of interesting
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  Speaker 1: thing that you know, you gotta kind of say about
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  Speaker 1: But that tight end group is is an interesting group.
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  Speaker 1: And I would like to hope that at some point
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  Speaker 1: in the future that that Dave called well general manager
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  Speaker 1: can fine kind of you know, his own tight end
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  Speaker 1: because you know, Serverian Jenkins obviously has a contract for
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: a couple of years, but you know, you love the
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  Speaker 1: What was it the tight end that the Bucks got
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  Speaker 1: last year from Alabama? Was that right? I loved him,
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  Speaker 1: I would be thrilled because I think he's a really
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  Speaker 1: good football player. Um So, I mean, he's if you
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: can find one of those, Wow, tough to find. We'll
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: come back, though, and let's go defense when we come back.
• 45:42
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  Speaker 1: on p U p for what kept him out kind
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  Speaker 1: just working on the strength of it to get it
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  Speaker 1: back and then they'll get him back out there whatever.
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  Speaker 1: So to time table, well, I mean to me, you're
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  Speaker 1: have like eight sacks last uh, which is which is tremendous.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's that's a really good year for a
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  Speaker 1: young player. And what you're talking about a guy who
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  Speaker 1: playing a lot and he's not a starter, you know.
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  Speaker 1: and in their entirety to work on that strength. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Uh So I mean that that's that's a long time,
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• 51:57
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  Speaker 1: keep him once he gets to free agency, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 1: just because somebody will pay him a lot of money
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  Speaker 1: because he's got good numbers, he was a high draft pick,
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