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November 11, 2025 (Hour 1) · Zone 1150 - Chip Howard's SportsTalk

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Speaker 1: You're here on a good day. I think we're going
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Speaker 1: to hear from anam quarterback Marcel Reid coming up, got
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Speaker 1: a high school report. Author Matthew Davis is going to
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Speaker 1: join me. He has written a really interesting informative book
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Speaker 1: on Mount Rushmore and how that came about. It is
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Speaker 1: called Biography of a Mountain, The Making and Meaning of
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Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore. Matthew Davis will be with us in this hour.
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Speaker 1: We're going to hear from Georgia football coach Kirby Smart
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Speaker 1: coming up, and Mallory is here as well with entertainment news.
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Speaker 1: Marcel Reid is one of thirteen semi finalists for the
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Speaker 1: Maxwell Award. Nine of those thirteen players are quarterbacks. The
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Speaker 1: non quarterbacks Jeremiah Love of Notre Dame, Emmitt Johnson of Nebraska,
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Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith of Ohio State, mackay Lemon USC wide receiver,
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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks Ty Simpson, Gunner Stock and Haines King, f
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Speaker 1: Nando Mendoza, Trinidad, Chambaliss, Julian Saying, Dante Moore, and Diego Pavia.
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Speaker 1: Aside from Marcel, the Chuck Bednarik Award is given to
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Speaker 1: the best defensive player. Cassius Howe is on that list,
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Speaker 1: so it's a good day for Aggie's and Howl has
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Speaker 1: been named semifinalists for the Impact Award, presented every year
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Speaker 1: to the student athlete who best exhibits the characteristics of
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Speaker 1: Ronnie Lot by making an impact on and off the field.
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Speaker 1: It's in an acronym for integrity, maturity, performance, academics, community,
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Speaker 1: and tenacity. As far as I know, Cassius Howe has
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Speaker 1: not had to cut off part of his finger to
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Speaker 1: continue playing. Need to ask him about that the next
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Speaker 1: time the Earl Campbell Talrose National Player of the Week.
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Speaker 1: Texas Tech running back Cameron Dickey twenty three carries a
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Speaker 1: buck twenty one and a touchdown in the Raiders twenty
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Speaker 1: nine to seven performance over BYU. Dicky became the Big
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Speaker 1: twelve's leading rusher eleventh rushing touchdown of the season eight
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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty seven yards so far. He played at
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Speaker 1: Austin Crockett. In illegal filing against LSU's Board of Supervisors,
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Speaker 1: Brian Kelly's attorneys say LSU has taken the position that
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Speaker 1: has not quote formally terminated Kelly. The school, according to
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Speaker 1: the petition for a declaratory judgment, is now seeking to
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Speaker 1: fire Kelly for cause and avoid paying the fifty four
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Speaker 1: million dollar buyout. LSU's representatives had a call with coach
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Speaker 1: Kelly's representatives where LSU took the position that coach Kelly
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Speaker 1: had not been formally tournament terminated and informed his representatives
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Speaker 1: for the very first time that LSU believed there were
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Speaker 1: grounds for termination for cause. Kelly's attorneys are seeking a
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Speaker 1: judgment confirming confirming the firing was without cause and he
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Speaker 1: is entitled to the fifty four million dollars. Who's going
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Speaker 1: to get most of that money? The attorneys. The NC
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Speaker 1: DOUBLEA has agreed to pay out three hundred and three
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Speaker 1: million dollars to settle a class action any trust suit
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Speaker 1: representing seventy seven hundred volunteer college coaches who alleged the
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Speaker 1: NC DOUBLEA was engaged in illegal wage fixing under rule
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Speaker 1: that prohibited schools from paying them. A coach from the
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Speaker 1: proposal will receive about thirty nine thousand, two hundred dollars
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Speaker 1: before expenses and fees. In other words, they're not getting
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Speaker 1: a lot of money. SEC basketball tonight. The best one
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Speaker 1: is Florida State at Florida, the defending national champs, and
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Speaker 1: Kentucky at Louisville. Those two teams don't.
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Speaker 4: Like each other.
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Speaker 1: In case you didn't know, Memphis and Ole Miss is
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Speaker 1: also televised on the SEC network. The Aggie's next game
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Speaker 1: is at Reed Arena at seven o'clock Friday night against
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Speaker 1: Central Florida. Beside Florida State, Florida, Kentucky, Louisville, Texas Tech,
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Speaker 1: and Illinois are playing a nice little ballgame that's in Champagne,
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Speaker 1: and Creighton and Gonzaga have the late game on ESPN.
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Speaker 1: A couple of top twenty five teams there as well.
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Speaker 1: The twenty twenty six Winter Olympics are less than three
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Speaker 1: months away and still work to be done. The league
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Speaker 1: has not allowed its skaters to participate at the Olympics
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Speaker 1: since twenty fourteen. Now there are serious questions about the
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Speaker 1: quality of ice on which they will be playing. Gary
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Speaker 1: the rinks and ice conditions. It's something we're monitoring closely
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Speaker 1: and we have absolutely no control over. This is all
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Speaker 1: on the International Olympic Committee and the International Ice Hockey Federation.
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Speaker 1: Betman says the league is getting quote constant reassurances that
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Speaker 1: being built. That venue was meant to undergoing testing for
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Speaker 1: the Olympics in December, but that's not going to happen.
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Speaker 5: Wow, it sounds like.
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Speaker 1: Another cluster from the International Olympic Committee. Just say tomorrow
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Speaker 1: on the show, we're going to be joined by local
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Speaker 1: musician made good Aiden Ross, who's on the voice. He's
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Speaker 1: in the middle of the knockout rounds right now. I
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Speaker 1: will visit with Aiden Ross tomorrow on the program. Scott
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Speaker 1: Clindenon will also be here tomorrow. Mallory will also be
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Speaker 1: here tomorrow. Thursday, we will have our Clark Eisenhower Outdoor edition.
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Speaker 1: We'll hear from Tory and York Aggie Linebacker. Let's see
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Speaker 1: what else will we hear. We'll hear from basketball. We'll
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Speaker 1: have some A Bucky and maybe a player or two
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Speaker 1: on Thursday's and then Freddy Kirk, Bulls, Tony Catalina, the
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Speaker 1: usual cast of characters with young Ryot. I looked online
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Speaker 1: for tickets today for A and M South Carolina. Right
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Speaker 1: now on the secondary markets, the cheapest ticket is two
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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty eight dollars. Now, that wasn't the shaker
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Speaker 1: to me. The chakra to me was the Sanford game.
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Speaker 1: The cheapest ticket for the Sanford game, I believe, is
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Speaker 1: somewhere around one hundred and eighty bucks right now. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think that will go down as you get closer
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Speaker 1: to the game. But that just shows the level of
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Speaker 1: interest and it seems like there's still a little bit
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Speaker 1: more room on the bandwagon. But I think most people
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Speaker 1: are already on the bandwagon. Nobody has jumped off the bandwagon.
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Speaker 1: Let's put it that way. And tonight, I don't know
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Speaker 1: what time. I don't really care. The college football playoff
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Speaker 1: rankings Week two come out, as we talked about with
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Speaker 1: the writers yesterday. No real concern there, just you know
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Speaker 1: this need to wait for those final rankings. But I
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Speaker 1: don't think there'll be any real concern there as well
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Speaker 1: Coming up, we have a high school report. We have
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Speaker 1: author Matthew Davis. His book is called Biography of a Mountain,
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Speaker 1: The Making and Meaning of Mount Rushmore. I think it's
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Speaker 1: really interesting and some of you may think it's interesting
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Speaker 1: as well. We'll visit with Matthew Davis. Coming up. We're
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Speaker 1: gonna hear from Kirby Smart coming up. Mallory is here
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Speaker 1: with some entertaining entertainment news.
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Speaker 9: All of that.
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Speaker 1: But a little bit earlier today around lunchtime, Marcel Reid
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Speaker 1: visited with reporters changed the last few weeks from washing
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Speaker 1: into basketball game.
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Speaker 18: The other day, taking pictures of your five seconds and
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Speaker 18: are you aware of this chance thing that's taking over
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Speaker 18: or saying your message boards YouTube and around campus.
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Speaker 17: Yeah, a little bit. Definitely get a little bit more recognition,
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Speaker 17: you know. I don't think too much of it. I
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Speaker 17: think it's just fans supporting players, which is pretty cool
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Speaker 17: to see. I've seen the chance thing pop up. At first,
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Speaker 17: I was just seeing like comments and saying Chance. I
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Speaker 17: was like, I don't know what this is. Then I
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Speaker 17: saw like a picture of my face, and then I
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Speaker 17: said Chance. I was like, Okay, I kind of understand
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Speaker 17: it now. But yeah, I feel like it's just, you know,
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Speaker 17: the things that come with, you know, being a starting
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Speaker 17: quarterback in the SEC. So I've kind of taken it
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Speaker 17: all in. Uh, you know, I told I told my
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Speaker 17: dad this, and uh, you know, even my agents. At
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Speaker 17: the end of the day, you know, I came to
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Speaker 17: play football just because it's the love of the game.
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Speaker 17: Like I never expected to get nil when I first
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Speaker 17: came to college or do any of those things. So,
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Speaker 17: you know, I go out here and play the game
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Speaker 17: I've been playing since I was five years old, just
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Speaker 17: to have fun, you know, because that's what the game
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Speaker 17: is all about.
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Speaker 19: How do you deal with the now, the Heisman, trophy
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Speaker 19: stuff around you. Is that something you embrace and enjoy
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Speaker 19: it or is it something that you just try to
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Speaker 19: try to ignore and play.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 17: Uh, you know, definitely embrace it a little bit and
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Speaker 17: enjoyed it a little bit because you know, it's great
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Speaker 17: to to get recognition like that, but you know, I
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Speaker 17: kind of have to push it aside just because you know.
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Speaker 7: None of that all matters until it did matter.
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Speaker 17: So until you know the Heisman ceremony comes, it's not
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Speaker 17: really on my mind focused on you know, winning one
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Speaker 17: game each week, and right now we got so Socc
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Speaker 17: Carolina coming up, so that's what I'm focused on.
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Speaker 19: And I know that you have Jefferson stro Jefferson Street
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Speaker 19: Joe Gillim's jersey in your room. Is that because you
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Speaker 19: just thought it was a cold jersey or is there
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Speaker 19: any inspiration behind?
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Speaker 7: Uh?
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Speaker 17: I think really it was kind of my dad that
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Speaker 17: gave it to me.
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Speaker 7: And I always knew who Joe Gilm was.
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Speaker 17: You know, went this football camps that he had when
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Speaker 17: I was younger that he hosted at Tennessee State. But
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Speaker 17: you know, my dad got one for me and he
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Speaker 17: told me to where it pose it and I think
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Speaker 17: I did it like one time. But uh, you know,
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Speaker 17: I'm not really a Steelers fan, so I'm not I
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Speaker 17: don't want to wear a Steelers jersey all the time.
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Speaker 19: So there's nothing like, hey, his story is inspiration or anything.
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Speaker 7: Like oh, story, a story.
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Speaker 17: Definitely definitely an inspiration and you know that's that's a
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Speaker 17: quarterback that you know, I look up to just because
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Speaker 17: of you know, the barriers that he broke, and you know,
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Speaker 17: just be an African American. You know, you didn't always
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Speaker 17: see that growing up as a kid, that there's African
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Speaker 17: American quarterbacks.
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Speaker 7: So definitely kind of look up to.
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Speaker 17: Him and you know all the other ones who were
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Speaker 17: alongside him as well.
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Speaker 13: After the Missouri game, coaches mentioned that you checked into
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Speaker 13: the or audibled into the screen pass for for Casey
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Speaker 13: when he made that. Uh, we're talking a little bit
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Speaker 13: about that development of getting able to have that freedom
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Speaker 13: to to call things and move things around in the line.
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Speaker 13: When when did that come around and what was the
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Speaker 13: process to get to be able.
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Speaker 7: To have that freedom?
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Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean it all just comes with, you know,
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Speaker 17: extra preparation. You know, as the years went on, uh
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Speaker 17: started to get you know, more and more heavy on
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Speaker 17: you know, just going in and sitting down with Klein
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Speaker 17: and understanding the game plan and you know, when we
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Speaker 17: see this look, what are we trying to get into?
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Speaker 7: What we don't want to run against this look?
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Speaker 17: So, uh, you know I saw the safety roll down
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Speaker 17: and you know it's obviously we're overloaded.
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Speaker 7: We can't block every single person.
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Speaker 9: Uh.
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Speaker 17: You know, sometimes they don't always bring all seven, but
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Speaker 17: at that time, fortunately they did bring all seven and
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Speaker 17: we got you know, all our guys through on the
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Speaker 17: old line, got case of.
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Speaker 7: The ball out quick and you know he went out
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Speaker 7: for forty eight.
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Speaker 13: So has there been any other plays this year that
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Speaker 13: you've checked into something that it's run for a touchdown?
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Speaker 3: Or is that the first one?
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Speaker 17: Can't recall? I probably I've checked into a couple of plays.
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Speaker 17: You know, there's there's, like I said, there's plays where
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Speaker 17: you know, we'll either have like a double call and
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Speaker 17: you know we'll see something if we want to get
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Speaker 17: out of it, we'll check to this h and have
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Speaker 17: a kill call. But you know, there's there's been definitely
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Speaker 17: plays like that this season. And you know, like I said,
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Speaker 17: it just all comes with game planning and you know,
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Speaker 17: understanding what the team's going to do.
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Speaker 20: You got able to avenge of some losses this year.
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Speaker 20: When I ask worried about South Carolina and you use
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Speaker 20: the word personal, is that like kind of that revenge
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Speaker 20: type in the back of your mind here when you
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Speaker 20: get ready.
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Speaker 7: For this week. Yeah, I think so.
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Speaker 17: I mean obviously you can't, you know, look back at
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Speaker 17: last year and and try to, you know, bring that
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Speaker 17: type of energy into it.
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Speaker 7: But it is personal.
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Speaker 17: You know, those were one of the teams that kind
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Speaker 17: of got us out of, you know, getting into the
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Speaker 17: playoffs last year and took us out of the US
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Speaker 17: Championship conversation.
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Speaker 7: So you know, I mean it's just one of one, I.
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Speaker 17: Know, mentality, and like I said, we have South Carolina
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Speaker 17: and you know that's what our focus is on, and
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Speaker 17: we're just going out there get another win. They're in
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Speaker 17: our way, just like every other team. So you're just
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Speaker 17: gonna go handle business as we can.
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Speaker 21: Other weeks still on and y'all, and y'all continue to
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Speaker 21: be undefeated, one of only three in the whole country.
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Speaker 21: What is what is the feeling around here? I know
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Speaker 21: you guys believed you could do it, but to be
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Speaker 21: this late in the season and be doing it, what
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Speaker 21: what does it mean to you guys?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it obviously feels good.
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Speaker 17: It gives us just you know, the confidence that you
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Speaker 17: know you want to have going into each week knowing
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Speaker 17: that you're capable of beating any team that you go
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Speaker 17: against you know, and it's not false confidence, which is good. So, uh,
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Speaker 17: we're going into every week prepared and uh and knowing
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Speaker 17: that you know, the team in front of was like
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Speaker 17: I said, is it is in our way and we're
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Speaker 17: gonna go dominate them that you know, our best ability.
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Speaker 7: So it's just about.
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Speaker 17: Execution at the end of the day, and you know,
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Speaker 17: you know, focusing on the next game. You know, those
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Speaker 17: other nine are behind us now, so you know we
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Speaker 17: got three more, but we're focused on this one next
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Speaker 17: this week.
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Speaker 7: What does Tory and York bring to this team?
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Speaker 15: And can you appreciate how he calls the defense house.
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Speaker 7: When Yeah, Tory York brings a different type of leadership.
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Speaker 17: I mean, you guys just heard him talk about, you know,
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Speaker 17: how he prepares and how he's been watching.
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Speaker 7: Film since eighth grade. But I mean just the way
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Speaker 7: he does it.
20:28
Speaker 17: Like he as soon as we get into the bus
20:31
Speaker 17: or the plane after a game, he's looking at you know,
20:34
Speaker 17: film for the next week, or looking at a scouter
20:37
Speaker 17: report for the next week, or watching the game of
20:39
Speaker 17: the team that we're about to play next week.
20:42
Speaker 7: So I mean he takes it.
20:43
Speaker 17: To another level and it's just great to see that
20:46
Speaker 17: growth from him and you know how he's done it
20:48
Speaker 17: all these years because you know, me and him are
20:50
Speaker 17: so close. You know, we spend each other ready times
20:53
Speaker 17: houses just sitting there talking ball and just you know,
20:56
Speaker 17: just talking life at the same time, because you know,
20:58
Speaker 17: we talked about this your freshman, about getting to this
21:02
Speaker 17: position and what it's gonna take. And then it's gonna
21:04
Speaker 17: be me and him because you know, he knew what
21:06
Speaker 17: it took to be a starting linebacker to lead the defense,
21:08
Speaker 17: and I knew what it took to be a starting
21:10
Speaker 17: quarterback and leave the offense. So we're kind of just
21:13
Speaker 17: you know, sailing ship on both ends. And uh, it's
21:16
Speaker 17: just great to see because he brings it out of everybody.
21:18
Speaker 17: I mean, he makes sure that you know, everybody's doing
21:20
Speaker 17: the right thing. We're all held accountable, and that's why
21:22
Speaker 17: you've seen so much success this year from us.
21:24
Speaker 22: I assume you're you're a college football fan and watch.
21:27
Speaker 7: Are there any Heisman.
21:28
Speaker 15: Moments that you remember from players where they like that
21:31
Speaker 15: Johnny Manziel and your plumble touchdown, or are there what's
21:34
Speaker 15: your highest moment that you might remember as a fan?
21:39
Speaker 17: Cam Newton's run against LSU and then you know, I
21:43
Speaker 17: don't even think the little fumble pass was Johnny's best player.
21:46
Speaker 7: I think you know, the run he had.
21:47
Speaker 17: Against Mississippi State at Mississippi State was pretty fire. You
21:51
Speaker 17: know when he hit he hit the Cam Newton celebration
21:53
Speaker 17: with the this right here in screams. So I mean
21:55
Speaker 17: that was pretty cool. Yeah, I mean there's shoot, I
22:00
Speaker 17: can't really think any other ones off the top of
22:02
Speaker 17: my head, but there's definitely a lot of people who've
22:04
Speaker 17: had their Heisman moments, and so.
22:08
Speaker 7: Let's just look out for my.
22:11
Speaker 23: Is.
22:11
Speaker 7: Have you have you ever struck the Hesman post? I haven't.
22:14
Speaker 7: I haven't it. I mean, it'd be cool to do it.
22:18
Speaker 7: I'm just waiting for the right time.
22:19
Speaker 19: Look like, what are your teammates all have done it
22:21
Speaker 19: for you?
22:21
Speaker 17: Yeah, it's a little it's a little TikTok dance that
22:23
Speaker 17: has it in it. But it's not you know, we're
22:25
Speaker 17: not struck the Huysman post. It's gonna be me and
22:27
Speaker 17: me only probably, So you you.
22:29
Speaker 18: You were pretty close to coach KWin of course, just
22:32
Speaker 18: you know, he was a Heisman finalist at one point.
22:34
Speaker 18: Just what's maybe been some of his advice that he's
22:36
Speaker 18: given you these last few weeks. Is you've had some
22:39
Speaker 18: success here and your names in that conversation.
22:42
Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean he just honestly just checks in on
22:44
Speaker 17: me and ask me if I'm handling it as well,
22:48
Speaker 17: you know, just you know, less as a coach, but
22:50
Speaker 17: more as a you know, a friend. He's making sure
22:52
Speaker 17: that this isn't too much of my shoulders and that
22:54
Speaker 17: I'm still focused and stuff like that. So we sit
22:57
Speaker 17: down every Sunday and talk about you know, the upcoming week.
23:00
Speaker 17: Uh you know how he did the day before, and
23:02
Speaker 17: just sit down and talk life and kind of understand
23:05
Speaker 17: each other. So, you know, he's been a great coach,
23:07
Speaker 17: a great mentor for me. Uh you know, like you said,
23:09
Speaker 17: he was a Heisman finalist and so he's been through
23:11
Speaker 17: through this before.
23:12
Speaker 7: So uh, you know, just making sure that you.
23:14
Speaker 17: Know, I'm grounded in the same place and just worrying
23:16
Speaker 17: about them now is what he's been doing for me.
23:19
Speaker 7: Who first called you the gingerbread man? And when did
23:21
Speaker 7: that come around? I called myself the ginger bread Yeah.
23:25
Speaker 7: When did you start calling yourself?
23:26
Speaker 13: Though?
23:27
Speaker 17: Probably about fifth grade? I used to call myself the
23:31
Speaker 17: gingerbread man. Uh, you know, I call myself the dragonfly
23:35
Speaker 17: at one point.
23:35
Speaker 7: I don't know if you guys ever trying to hit
23:37
Speaker 7: a dragon fly. It's pretty hard to do. I've never
23:39
Speaker 7: touched that. What was your most gingerbread man moment? Maybe
23:43
Speaker 7: this year before like this year, Uh.
23:51
Speaker 17: Probably say Mississippi State where the little pump throw and
23:54
Speaker 17: I was crazy.
23:54
Speaker 7: I don't know how I did that, to be honest.
23:56
Speaker 7: And then in high school, if you go see my
23:59
Speaker 7: senior get highlights, I I.
24:01
Speaker 17: Made a cut on two people and made three people
24:04
Speaker 17: tackle each other in the game the state championship game.
24:07
Speaker 17: Unfortunately we lost, but just going back and looking at
24:10
Speaker 17: the highlight, it was just pretty cool to see.
24:12
Speaker 20: So you've obviously had a lot of there's a lot
24:15
Speaker 20: of work to be done here, but as somebody who
24:17
Speaker 20: got doubted in the preseason, have you had a chance
24:19
Speaker 20: at a human level to kind of sit back and
24:20
Speaker 20: just look on what these year has been for you
24:23
Speaker 20: personally and this team.
24:28
Speaker 17: I mean yes and no, you know, haven't really just
24:30
Speaker 17: enough step back and thought about, dang.
24:33
Speaker 7: We're doing really well.
24:34
Speaker 17: I mean I'm just kind of, like you know, taking
24:37
Speaker 17: each win by the week and like I said, just
24:40
Speaker 17: trying to focus on the next one. But obviously it's
24:43
Speaker 17: been it's been pretty cool. You know, this is the
24:46
Speaker 17: type of season that you dream of, and you know,
24:50
Speaker 17: we're just doing everything that we can and keep it rolling.
24:53
Speaker 17: And you know, it's amazing that we have all the
24:55
Speaker 17: support and everybody traveling with us since you going.
24:58
Speaker 7: To watch games and you see stage is clear out.
25:01
Speaker 17: That brings so much joy to us, and you like,
25:03
Speaker 17: people don't even understand it, and it's just it's it's
25:06
Speaker 17: cool to be a part of not only a team,
25:09
Speaker 17: but just a university net program like this.
25:11
Speaker 13: There are some other quarterbacks around the country that have
25:13
Speaker 13: caught your attention.
25:15
Speaker 17: Uh, definitely, Uh, you know Tye Simpson, Fernando Mendoza, Uh honestly,
25:21
Speaker 17: really just all the guys in the heis and Radz
25:23
Speaker 17: right now, Julian Sand's done really well. But you know
25:26
Speaker 17: Fernando H I trained up with him in Dallas this summer.
25:30
Speaker 17: He was a pretty funny guy. And then tie a
25:34
Speaker 17: little bit of history behind that. It's just like me
25:36
Speaker 17: and him played on the same seven on seven team,
25:38
Speaker 17: uh back in Tennessee. And then you know, growing up
25:42
Speaker 17: our dad just to coach, coach each other, coach against
25:44
Speaker 17: each other. He was his dad was the head coach
25:45
Speaker 17: at UT Martin and mine was the head coach at
25:47
Speaker 17: Tennessee State, which are votes in the OVC. So we
25:50
Speaker 17: used to go back and forth to Martin, Tennessee and Nationhville, Tennessee.
25:52
Speaker 7: Just UH with that. So you know, it's just.
25:55
Speaker 17: It's just cool to see, you know, people you know
25:57
Speaker 17: you have met and talked to, UH being so successful.
26:02
Speaker 1: You know, I got to tell you when you see
26:03
Speaker 1: Marcel Reid, when you see him in this situation, when
26:06
Speaker 1: you see him postgame, answering questions, winsord losses, and there
26:13
Speaker 1: haven't been any losses this year, this guy is what
26:19
Speaker 1: you want as the face of your program. He is
26:23
Speaker 1: exactly who you want representing your program and your university.
26:32
Speaker 1: Remarkable young man, well taught, mature, and you know, the
26:39
Speaker 1: team obviously feeds off of that. You can't ask for
26:46
Speaker 1: a better guy leading this program than Marcel Reid. And
26:52
Speaker 1: it's fun to watch. It's fun to see him grow
26:59
Speaker 1: mature and and again the team. You know, it goes
27:03
Speaker 1: without saying when when your guy is like this, UH,
27:09
Speaker 1: players are playing for him. They respect him in the
27:12
Speaker 1: locker room, and fans need to appreciate that because it
27:18
Speaker 1: doesn't come along that often. Right, there's great guys in
27:23
Speaker 1: college football.
27:24
Speaker 7: There are.
27:25
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's fun to watch. It's fun to
27:28
Speaker 1: see these guys. And and he's just he's a top
27:34
Speaker 1: flight guy and there's still a lot of possibilities. Look,
27:44
Speaker 1: I know, Johnny was Johnny and it didn't matter what
27:47
Speaker 1: he did because of how remarkable he was on the field.
27:53
Speaker 1: But there are obviously some embarrassing moments and issues unfortunately,
28:02
Speaker 1: but you're not gonna get that with this kid. And
28:07
Speaker 1: it's just it's fun to see him, fun to watch him,
28:10
Speaker 1: fun to listen to him. I think he's more mature
28:15
Speaker 1: and older beyond his years, and that's a big reason
28:21
Speaker 1: why this team's undefeated right now. All right, coming up,
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Speaker 22: Com welcome to The High School, report Im Matt, williams
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Speaker 22: and today we're going out to The Polaris funstoner phone
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Speaker 22: The Huntsville Hornet's Todd.
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Speaker 1: Mavis it's great to have you.
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Speaker 7: Back how are you doing, today Good.
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Speaker 25: Matt thanks for having, me.
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Speaker 19: Sir.
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Speaker 23: Anytime as the season carries on into its last stage
31:35
Speaker 23: the regular season at, least what are some lessons that
31:38
Speaker 23: you learned in the early season that you're taking with
31:40
Speaker 23: your team for this final.
31:41
Speaker 25: Push you, KNOW i mean, again there's no. EXCUSE i
31:47
Speaker 25: think there's some reasons why we're playing better football right.
31:51
Speaker 25: NOW i, mean the reasons behind it is is that you,
31:54
Speaker 25: KNOW i personally didn't even get On Townsville High school
31:58
Speaker 25: to the first week Of, april you, know in the
32:00
Speaker 25: head coaching, realm and trying to be able to change
32:04
Speaker 25: schemes offensively and defensively and and create a. CULTURE i,
32:08
Speaker 25: MEAN i would say in the coaching world that's that's relatively.
32:10
Speaker 25: Late but you, know very fortunate to be. Here AND
32:14
Speaker 25: i think that we've done a lot of great work
32:16
Speaker 25: in a short period of. Time and you, know early
32:19
Speaker 25: in the, season you, know schemes are, new and you,
32:23
Speaker 25: know we just had to keep working through. It And
32:25
Speaker 25: i'm real proud of our football. Team for you, know
32:28
Speaker 25: their workmanlike attitude and being able to stay positive and
32:32
Speaker 25: and continuing to grow their FOOTBALL iq and our new
32:35
Speaker 25: schemes and you, know hopefully we're hitting our stride here
32:37
Speaker 25: late in the.
32:38
Speaker 23: Season, Yeah and what has been your toughest matchup this
32:43
Speaker 23: season and what have you taken away from?
32:44
Speaker 25: IT i, MEAN i think that every game has BEEN i,
32:49
Speaker 25: Mean i've got tremendous respects for this. DISTRICT i, mean
32:53
Speaker 25: it's been a dogfight every single, week you, KNOW i,
32:56
Speaker 25: mean you, know it's JUST i think our team has,
33:01
Speaker 25: grown you, know and their resiliency and they're poise and.
33:05
Speaker 25: Composure you, know the two losses that we had in
33:10
Speaker 25: district Against Port Natus grove And montgomery were very physical football.
33:14
Speaker 25: Games we've out and played a tremendous first half AGAINST
33:17
Speaker 25: p AND g and went to, halftime you, know that
33:20
Speaker 25: came out on, top and you know the second half
33:22
Speaker 25: they had the momentum on their side and we weren't
33:24
Speaker 25: really able to get it. Back montgomery game was you
33:28
Speaker 25: know a little bit of the. Same did not necessarily
33:31
Speaker 25: play our best, game and you know we're able to
33:34
Speaker 25: rattle off three wins in a row here against very
33:37
Speaker 25: tough opponents and we've won all three, games you, know
33:40
Speaker 25: in different. Fashions so you, KNOW i, Mean i'm proud
33:43
Speaker 25: of our football. TEAM i certainly think that you, know
33:45
Speaker 25: we're battle tested and it have been in a lot
33:47
Speaker 25: of different situations and and had to overcome a. LOT
33:51
Speaker 25: i certainly think that we need to continue to get
33:53
Speaker 25: better at the situational football, piece which is things that
33:56
Speaker 25: you know that we're addressing on a daily, basis and
33:57
Speaker 25: certainly what championship teams do in the.
33:59
Speaker 23: Playoffs you Faced netherland last week and came out with a.
34:03
Speaker 23: Victory talk to me a little bit about what went
34:05
Speaker 23: down that. Game what do you think went well and
34:07
Speaker 23: where do you think your team was.
34:08
Speaker 7: CHALLENGED i, MEAN.
34:11
Speaker 25: I think our our team was challenged in every. Facet
34:15
Speaker 25: Because needland is a really good football. Team their record
34:18
Speaker 25: doesn't show how good a team that they. ARE i,
34:21
Speaker 25: think you, know you, know a couple of plays here or,
34:24
Speaker 25: there you, know they win a couple of their, games
34:26
Speaker 25: and now they're in playoff. CONTENTION i think that they
34:29
Speaker 25: would be a playoff, team you know in a lot
34:31
Speaker 25: of other, districts you, know in FIVE A division two
34:34
Speaker 25: around the, state and so you, KNOW i think we
34:37
Speaker 25: came out, early you, know got up to a fourteen point.
34:40
Speaker 25: Lead they were again strong, team able to tie at fourteen,
34:43
Speaker 25: fourteen and really kind of going into the second, half
34:46
Speaker 25: we were able to stretch out our lead and scored
34:49
Speaker 25: a couple of non offensive, touchdowns had fourteen points on,
34:52
Speaker 25: defense and you, know our offense late there was able
34:55
Speaker 25: to put it. Away and so, again you, KNOW i
34:59
Speaker 25: mean we just the resiliency and poise and just our,
35:02
Speaker 25: guys you, know trying to find a way to.
35:04
Speaker 23: Win and your next matchup is Against. Splendora what are
35:07
Speaker 23: you expecting from that? Matchup and how do you think
35:09
Speaker 23: your teams will mix on the.
35:10
Speaker 25: Field i'm expecting it to be another you, know, physical
35:15
Speaker 25: uh football. GAME i Mean splendora you, know probably didn't
35:20
Speaker 25: have has not had the season that they. Expected at
35:23
Speaker 25: the same, TIME i mean you turn on the video
35:25
Speaker 25: and uh you, KNOW i mean there's there's explosive plays
35:27
Speaker 25: all over the. Place they've got explosive. PLAYERS i, mean you,
35:31
Speaker 25: know they're they're having kickoff returns returning it to, midfield
35:34
Speaker 25: setting their offense up for great field. Position you, Know,
35:37
Speaker 25: offensively they spread you out and and challenge you with
35:41
Speaker 25: the space on the, field and they've got guys that
35:43
Speaker 25: you can get the ball in their hands and they
35:45
Speaker 25: can change the, game you, know in a. Hurry so you,
35:49
Speaker 25: know we're just we've got to go out and be
35:51
Speaker 25: the best version of us and and again try to
35:53
Speaker 25: try to play situational football a lot.
35:55
Speaker 14: Better m.
35:56
Speaker 23: H and as you close out the regular, season how
35:59
Speaker 23: do you keeping your program focused and locked in on you,
36:02
Speaker 23: know this last game with playoffs right around the.
36:05
Speaker 25: CORNER i, mean we've got another football game that's another district.
36:10
Speaker 25: Game it's a you, know very, important you. KNOW i,
36:13
Speaker 25: mean our expectation is to go out and, play you,
36:16
Speaker 25: know our best game of the year because it's the tenth.
36:19
Speaker 25: Game and and you, know we've got a, compressive progressive
36:23
Speaker 25: competitive mindset that every opportunity we step out on the,
36:26
Speaker 25: field we need to be better than we were the Last,
36:28
Speaker 25: so you, KNOW i, mean we're fortunate enough in week
36:32
Speaker 25: nine to be able to do a body of work
36:34
Speaker 25: that will give us an opportunity to have three more
36:38
Speaker 25: practices in another game next week in the. Playoffs BUT
36:41
Speaker 25: i mean the main focus, is you, know what we
36:43
Speaker 25: need to do tomorrow.
36:45
Speaker 23: And what are your expectations for the. Playoffs how are
36:47
Speaker 23: they different and more challenging than a regular season from
36:50
Speaker 23: a mindset perspective or is it pretty consistent across the.
36:53
Speaker 25: BOARD i, mean it's consistent across the. BOARD i, MEAN
36:57
Speaker 25: i think the mindset is just an. UNDERSTANDING i, mean
36:59
Speaker 25: you when you move, on if you, don't you go.
37:01
Speaker 25: HOME i, mean you know there's nothing guaranteed after. That you,
37:06
Speaker 25: know you get in the regular season and you, know
37:09
Speaker 25: you start to play In. August you, know subconsciously you
37:12
Speaker 25: know you've got you, know two more months of football
37:16
Speaker 25: ahead of you and more practices and everything. ELSE i,
37:19
Speaker 25: mean when you get into the, PLAYOFFS i, mean you
37:21
Speaker 25: got three days of, practice you got a couple of,
37:23
Speaker 25: walkthroughs and you're gonna go lay it down on the
37:24
Speaker 25: line for forty eight minutes and you, know if you
37:26
Speaker 25: come out on, top then you're gonna give yourself three
37:29
Speaker 25: more practices another forty eight minute. Game if if you,
37:32
Speaker 25: don't then you, know unfortunately your season's. Over so you,
37:36
Speaker 25: KNOW i mean the margin FOR aer is something that
37:39
Speaker 25: has been very small in our. District that's that's what
37:42
Speaker 25: we've been able to you, know have to respect and
37:45
Speaker 25: understand and you, know the margin for air in the
37:47
Speaker 25: in the playoffs is even smaller because if you don't
37:50
Speaker 25: come out on, top then you, know LIKE i, said
37:52
Speaker 25: the last opportunity that you've had to be on the
37:54
Speaker 25: field with the senior class.
37:56
Speaker 23: That you have absolutely thank you so much for your, time.
37:59
Speaker 25: Coach, yeah thank, You, Matt thanks for Going, yes.
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Speaker 11: You i'm doing, great. Chick thanks for having me. ON
42:46
Speaker 11: i really appreciate.
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Speaker 1: It this is a fascinating. Book i've really enjoyed. It
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Speaker 1: where did you get the idea to write on this?
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Speaker 11: Subject, Yeah, so On july, third twenty, Twenty President trump
42:58
Speaker 11: spoke At Mount rushmore and gave a speech with a
43:01
Speaker 11: certain kind of vision Of american history and the memorials
43:03
Speaker 11: and monuments that are built to commemorate. It AND i
43:06
Speaker 11: didn't see the speech. Live WHEN i was reading about,
43:08
Speaker 11: IT i just sort of was wondering why he decided
43:11
Speaker 11: to give that speech and At Mount. Rushmore and so
43:14
Speaker 11: did a little bit of a deeper dive into the.
43:15
Speaker 11: Memorial it's its, history its, origins why it's in The Black,
43:19
Speaker 11: hills who the sculpture, was what the controversies around it,
43:23
Speaker 11: were and really just came to understand that a lot
43:26
Speaker 11: of Our american, myths whether they're our westward, expansion our
43:31
Speaker 11: search for, gold our relationship With native, communities our big
43:34
Speaker 11: ambitions and creative, projects you, know these important words like
43:38
Speaker 11: democracy and freedom and liberty that sort of are at
43:41
Speaker 11: The memorial and course through us As, americans they're all
43:45
Speaker 11: reflected in the story Of Mount. Rushmore so for me
43:47
Speaker 11: it was a way to sort of learn about and
43:49
Speaker 11: write About american. History through the lens of this.
43:51
Speaker 1: Memorial you talk a lot About custer and kind of
43:56
Speaker 1: the role he played in shaping that entire. Area did he?
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Speaker 11: Not, yeah he. DID i mean the story Amount rushmore
44:04
Speaker 11: is closely tied To custer for two important. Reasons the
44:07
Speaker 11: first Is custer led his Seventh cavalry on an expedition
44:11
Speaker 11: through The Black hills in eighteen seventy, four and it
44:13
Speaker 11: was the first expedition of Any americans through The Black
44:16
Speaker 11: hills in, history and he was his assignment was to
44:22
Speaker 11: look for a military for, it but everyone knew that
44:24
Speaker 11: what he was really looking for was. Gold and he found.
44:27
Speaker 11: Gold his expedition found. Gold and what that meant was
44:30
Speaker 11: that at the, time The United states was really going
44:33
Speaker 11: through kind of the equivalent of The Great. Depression there
44:36
Speaker 11: was a lot of people unemployed. There it was called
44:39
Speaker 11: The Financial panic of eighteen seventy, three and The United
44:42
Speaker 11: states needed both morale boosting and also some economic. Salvation
44:47
Speaker 11: and so the finding a gold really made miners want
44:51
Speaker 11: to come into The Black. Hills and even though they
44:54
Speaker 11: were technically not allowed to come, in The President ULYSSES.
44:57
Speaker 11: S grant sort of relented and, said, LISTEN i can't
45:00
Speaker 11: stopped miners from coming, In so it changed The Black
45:03
Speaker 11: hills in that. Way and Then custer plays another important
45:07
Speaker 11: role Because grant Ordered Native americans to go To american run,
45:13
Speaker 11: reservations and he said that those that refused needed to
45:16
Speaker 11: be quote unquote rounded. Up and So custer led The
45:20
Speaker 11: Seventh cavalry to go round up those Recalcitrant Native. Americans
45:25
Speaker 11: and what he encountered In montana at The Battle Little
45:29
Speaker 11: bighorn In june of eighteen seventy six for a large
45:32
Speaker 11: group Of lakota And Northern, cheyenne and When custer attacked
45:35
Speaker 11: them and was, defeated that caused a great deal of
45:39
Speaker 11: controversy back in The United states because at that time
45:43
Speaker 11: THE us was celebrating At. Centennial when people learned about
45:46
Speaker 11: the defeat Of custer at The battle A Little, bighorn
45:49
Speaker 11: which The Native americans called The battle Of Greasy, grass
45:52
Speaker 11: that enraged The United states and caused them to take
45:56
Speaker 11: The Black hills Of South, dakota which is, where of
45:58
Speaker 11: Course Mount rushmore is.
45:59
Speaker 1: Today and And custer has always been painted in a
46:03
Speaker 1: in a certain. Light you you write that it's a
46:07
Speaker 1: little bit more complicated than. That, CORRECT i.
46:11
Speaker 11: Think he's a really complicated. FIGURE i, mean and it
46:14
Speaker 11: depends on what kind of light you're talking, about, chip
46:16
Speaker 11: BECAUSE i think that some people view, him at least
46:19
Speaker 11: they did at the time that he, died as kind
46:20
Speaker 11: of this martyr of westward, expansion whereas you know today
46:24
Speaker 11: many people sort of View custer as kind of not
46:29
Speaker 11: not following, orders being, disobedient you, know being too too
46:35
Speaker 11: aggressive in his. Actions and SO i think it depends
46:38
Speaker 11: on who you talk to with regards to his. Legacy but,
46:41
Speaker 11: CLEARLY i, MEAN i think with regards to the history
46:44
Speaker 11: of The Black kills in that area of The United,
46:46
Speaker 11: states he has an important, legacy whether or, not you,
46:49
Speaker 11: know regardless of how you feel about him as a.
46:52
Speaker 1: Person guts and Borglin is is the, face no pun,
46:58
Speaker 1: intended Of Mount. Rushmore but he wasn't the guy that
47:02
Speaker 1: had the original, idea was.
47:04
Speaker 7: He.
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Speaker 11: No i'm so glad you asked this because this is
47:08
Speaker 11: my favorite part of The rushmore. Story and the person
47:11
Speaker 11: who had the original idea was a state, Historian Abount,
47:14
Speaker 11: rushmore a guy Named Doan robinson who was very concerned
47:17
Speaker 11: about the economic state Of South dakota in the nineteen.
47:20
Speaker 11: Twenties the commodities and agricultural markets of the state had
47:24
Speaker 11: tanked Following World War, one And Joan robinson wanted a
47:27
Speaker 11: way to diversify the state's, economy and so he had
47:30
Speaker 11: this idea to carve sculptures in The Black hills to
47:34
Speaker 11: attract the burgeoning number of car tourists that were driving
47:37
Speaker 11: around the. Area so his initial idea was to carve
47:40
Speaker 11: characters that were reflective of The American, west people like
47:44
Speaker 11: The Great Lakota, Leader Red, cloud Or, custer Or lewis
47:47
Speaker 11: And clark Or, sakajuwea the guy who Led lewis And Clark.
47:51
Speaker 11: West so that was his initial. Idea when he Hired
47:55
Speaker 11: guns And borglum to do the, sculpting borglam changed it
47:58
Speaker 11: into something that we see today that became quite frankly
48:01
Speaker 11: more political than what the original intention.
48:03
Speaker 1: Was Borg, Ludden you, right and WHAT i get from,
48:09
Speaker 1: him he is the consummate artiste with with with everything
48:15
Speaker 1: that goes with.
48:16
Speaker 7: That was he?
48:17
Speaker 4: Not he?
48:18
Speaker 11: Was he. Was he was a very complicated, personality but
48:21
Speaker 11: he was someone that was very. Demanding he was someone
48:24
Speaker 11: that was very hard to work. With he was a,
48:26
Speaker 11: perfectionist but he ALSO i, mean in some ways you,
48:30
Speaker 11: know he Was he took credit when things went well
48:32
Speaker 11: and blamed others when things went went. Poorly so he's
48:36
Speaker 11: a complicated, figure but he certainly was a driving force
48:40
Speaker 11: behind the, memorial and there's you, know it's hard to
48:44
Speaker 11: imagine someone besides someone as ambitious and full of energy
48:49
Speaker 11: as him getting this.
48:50
Speaker 1: Done no matter what you think of the politics surrounding
48:54
Speaker 1: it or everything that went on putting this, on it
48:58
Speaker 1: is a rather remarkable piece of, art is it.
49:02
Speaker 11: Not it is very classically. Beautiful, YEAH i, Mean borglin
49:06
Speaker 11: was a trained. Artist he was someone that was very,
49:09
Speaker 11: accomplished and so the works of art you see up,
49:12
Speaker 11: there the faces were incredibly difficult to, achieve and they
49:19
Speaker 11: are beautiful on their, own that is.
49:21
Speaker 1: True how difficult was it getting this project? Done talk
49:26
Speaker 1: to our listeners about the fact that several times it
49:30
Speaker 1: ran out of money and this thing almost never, happened, right.
49:34
Speaker 11: It almost never. Happened, yeah that's a great. Point it
49:37
Speaker 11: did go through ups and downs of. Funding it.
49:39
Speaker 25: Was.
49:39
Speaker 11: Actually one of the ironies of this project is that
49:42
Speaker 11: our most, conservative fiscally Conservative, President Calvin, coolidge was signed
49:47
Speaker 11: the bill that federally funded the memorial before it was federally.
49:50
Speaker 11: Funded they were really scraping to try to fund this.
49:53
Speaker 11: Thing and even after it was federally, funded there were
49:57
Speaker 11: other moments where went up and down in terms of.
50:00
Speaker 11: Funding but once it got the funding from The United states,
50:02
Speaker 11: government it became a bit more secure in its position
50:07
Speaker 11: as a. Memorial and you, KNOW i think one of
50:09
Speaker 11: the things that's interesting about it today is that federal
50:12
Speaker 11: funding ran out in nineteen forty, one and so the
50:16
Speaker 11: original vision of the memorial was to include the torsos
50:20
Speaker 11: of the, presidents to include What borglum called a hall
50:24
Speaker 11: Of records that would have original documents like The constitution
50:28
Speaker 11: and The bill Of rights and other smaller busts Of
50:31
Speaker 11: americans throughout. History and those visions were never realized because
50:36
Speaker 11: the memorial ran out of the money and the money
50:38
Speaker 11: was used to go Fight World War.
50:40
Speaker 1: Two we almost Had susan. B anthony on that on
50:45
Speaker 1: the face of that, mountain do we, Not.
50:47
Speaker 11: Well that was there in the nineteen. Thirties there was
50:50
Speaker 11: a real push to include her on the, mountain AND i,
50:53
Speaker 11: think you, Know borglin was kind of coy and sort
50:57
Speaker 11: of encouraging these speculations to try to get support for his.
51:00
Speaker 11: Project but knowing deep down that there was not going
51:03
Speaker 11: to be another person on the. Mountain he had who
51:07
Speaker 11: he wanted to be on the, mountain and he was
51:09
Speaker 11: not going to change.
51:11
Speaker 1: That some of his history had been kind of erased
51:14
Speaker 1: his biography because he was he had links and ties
51:18
Speaker 1: to the ku Klux, Klan did he?
51:20
Speaker 7: Not he.
51:21
Speaker 4: Did.
51:22
Speaker 11: Yeah his work Before Mount rushmore was At Stone Mountain
51:25
Speaker 11: confederate Mem. Atlanta that was a project that was initially
51:28
Speaker 11: run by THE Kkk borglum had very close ties with
51:32
Speaker 11: its leadership and he, had you, know close affiliations with
51:36
Speaker 11: its beliefs as, Well and that's something that part of
51:40
Speaker 11: his biography is something that is not included At Mount.
51:43
Speaker 1: Rushmore, uh there's a lot of, well everyone's, flawed, obviously
51:48
Speaker 1: there's a lot of brilliant people that were. Flawed he
51:51
Speaker 1: was one of, them was he?
51:52
Speaker 11: Not he was incredibly. FLAWED i think that's exactly. Right
51:56
Speaker 11: ship people are very. COMPLICATED i think it's you, know
51:59
Speaker 11: one of the THINGS i meant in my book about
52:01
Speaker 11: a Five mountain is just that maybe it shouldn't be
52:03
Speaker 11: any other way, that you, know the creator of our
52:06
Speaker 11: national memorial has so many of the same flaws as
52:10
Speaker 11: our country.
52:10
Speaker 1: Itself Matthew davis is the is the. Author the book
52:14
Speaker 1: is CALLED A biography of A, Mountain The making And
52:17
Speaker 1: meaning Of Mount. Rushmore it is really really. Good, matthew
52:21
Speaker 1: thanks for the. TIME i really appreciate.
52:23
Speaker 11: It, chip thank you so. MUCH i appreciate you having me.
52:25
Speaker 1: On, yes sir. Again the book is out. Today it's
52:31
Speaker 1: Through Saint Martin's, press and just a really terrific, history
52:38
Speaker 1: lesson everything that it took when you think about it
52:43
Speaker 1: took seventeen, years by the, way when you think about
52:49
Speaker 1: what it took to do. THIS i don't know how
52:54
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52:57
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52:59
Speaker 5: Go and it is.
53:04
Speaker 1: Pretty odd inspiring when you look at what this guy did.
53:10
Speaker 5: On on that.
53:12
Speaker 1: Mountain it's it's it's in The Black. Hills but there's
53:18
Speaker 1: lots of history. There, uh there's there's history about The Native.
53:23
Speaker 1: Americans we, MENTIONED i Mentioned custer a little bit in
53:29
Speaker 1: shaping that The confederate memorial At Stone mountain And borglum's,
53:40
Speaker 1: son as we, mentioned you, know he he helped and
53:45
Speaker 1: it's interesting that all the workers and people when there
53:48
Speaker 1: were issues would go to his, son because his son
53:51
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53:55
Speaker 1: was was not so much he was, difficult but the
54:01
Speaker 1: fact that they got the money to build this and
54:04
Speaker 1: it was substantial back, then, right we're talking about a
54:10
Speaker 1: long time, ago and then the crash, happened the depression.
54:18
Speaker 1: HAPPENED i, mean the fact that this got done is
54:25
Speaker 1: like a minor miracle in. Itself but, again if you've
54:31
Speaker 1: never been, THERE i it's it's a place that you
54:34
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54:39
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54:46
Speaker 1: i can't fathom, that right from an artistic, perspective and
54:51
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54:55
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